I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Scottie, Sept. 29, 2003:
McClellan said that if anyone at the White House leaked Plame's identity, he should be fired, and pursued to the "fullest extent."
"No one was authorized to do this. That is simply not the way this White House operates and if someone leaked classified information it is a very serious matter," he said.
...just my luck
Note to Live Aid camera man...When Pete Townsend windmills, you do NOT cut to the drum overhead!
yea, wtf. the frenetic camera work which works in videos sometime should not be duplicated for live concerts. dwell a bit people, dwell.
Hold that thought, Dave.
I wonder if it's possible to find that particular quote on whitehouse.gov anywhere...
Can Live Aid use Rove's skull as a percussion instrument?
from below
My father saw the Who in the mix sixties but he cannot remeber which year.
My father is watching The Who and he feels old because the Who look old.
A-man, it may be that the broadcasters are cutting into the feed from the cameras they're using to create a music-video feel on the jumbotrons on each side of the stage... I agree, too much dynamic filming hurteth the head.
OH, Let's CUT from the end of Won't Get Fooled Again.
Assholes.
jeebus. MTV can't even stay with The Who for more than five minutes. time for a Road Rules/Real World Challenge marathon.
"Pink Floyd touring without Roger Waters is like George Harrison and Ringo Starr going on tour and calling it The Beatles."
-Roger Waters, sometime in the 90's
Daltrey just did the Dean Scream. YEEEEAARGHHHH!
Pink Floyd up next...
Get the feed from www.aolmusic.com, screw MTV. You get the live raw feed
My father is watching The Who and he feels old because the Who look old.
Moonbootica
They are 60. Daltrey actually looks good for 60.
Pete...well, looks 60.
Moonbootica, to quote the tagline of "Withnail and I": "If you can't remember the 60s... don't worry, neither can they." 
Its so much better to watch all these bands in 5.1 at home with the A/C on and a nice cold lemonade and the bathroom is 30 feet away.
If i didnt work 60 hours a week id feel guilty about it.
Attaturk - cause he is 60
my father is 59!
fake Roger Waters in Western PA...
Note to Live Aid camera man...When Pete Townsend windmills, you do NOT cut to the drum overhead!
thoght the same thing.
Is there anything more iconic in rock than that windmill on that part of that song?
yea, but the who looking old isn't like the stones looking ole. the stones were all about sex, while the who weren't. now the stones are all about rather creepy sex.
Good point Atrios.
The Cure are on the Paris feed.
if doughy, pale Sideshow Bob hair lookalikes are your thing, that is.
Atrios ~ how do you think Keith Richards still lives? My father wants to know. He should be dead by all normal caculations.
I occasionally rant.
As for Live 8, I saw Bittersweet Symphony earlier with coldplay and it was fantastic.
I wonder if it's possible to find that particular quote on whitehouse.gov anywhere...
It's still on CNN. Sorry I don't have the link, you'll have to google it.
"I wonder if it's possible to find that particular quote on whitehouse.gov anywhere..."
Not after Winston gets the assignment to scrub the record.
Dan Rather has creepy sex?
I hate my,
I hate my,
I hate my
MTV.
Lousy coverage!!!
(The live feeds aren't working for me; it's a Mac thing.)
omigod , robert smith looks awefull!
The evidence before the court is
Incontrivertable, there's no need for
The jury to retire.
In all my years of judging
I have never heard before
Of someone more deserving
Of the full penalty of law.
The way you made them suffer,
Your exquisite wife and mother,
Fills me with the urge to defecate!
Since, my friend, you have revealed your
Deepest fear,
I sentence you to be exposed before
Your peers.
Tear down the wall!
Can I say I strongly dislike Colplay and Robbie Williams.
Ok, ok, I'm 60 and damn, those were good years! 
I think they look great. (And so do I.)
Take THAT you kids!
Emm meha blugdar kvratyius muhamuahmuha schmakadah.
dancinfool - my dad sez keep drinking the red wine. Thats how he stays young!
well moon- rob thomas is coming up next in philly!
(joke)
Neil in Canada!
The Who were not all about sex - Tommy is still one of my most played albums - but Daltrey was damn sexy.
Robert Smith has let himself go. Looks fat. In fact, there's a striking resemblance there to Karl Rove. Has Karl cut and run to Paris already?
GDoyle
I have DirecWay Satellite, Live feed problematic for me.
Keith Richards is extremely wealthy and has access to the best physicians on Earth. That, plus his constitution is obviously far above average. Plus obviously he knows how much he can handle.
I'm a musician, and I had the pleasure of doing a tour in which we "borrowed" some of the Stones' road crew, including the "front of house" sound guy and the monitor engineer. They were chock full of Stones stories. In general, the guys on the crew all loved Keith, but Mick was apparently kind of a diva.
yeah, christ, the doughy goth look is not and will never not be "in."
other concerts ive been to...
pizzicato five @ tokyo expo
björk @ radio city music hall
cibo matto @ great american music hall and @ bowery ballroom
st etienne @ bowery ballroom ( a few times!)
arling & cameron @ bowery ballroom
kraftwerk @ hammerstein ballroom
dionne warwick @ brooklyn music academy
fantastic plastic machine @ windows on the world
goldfrapp@ bowery ballroom
ooh i used to go to so many concerts, & i sketched every single one.
I was pleasantly surprised by the whos performance.
In a they didn't embarrass themselves way.
james--i'll change my haloscan name to my blog name to avoid confusion. cuz i know it's creating mass confusion.
other james
yeah, i hate chris squealing martin but they pretty much gagged him for the Bittersweet symphony performance
How come I'm not getting the Who anymore? I'm tapped into London, but am hearing Neil Young do "Rocking in the Free World?"
Watching coverage of this show BLOWS. I realize that VH1 and Mtv quit being about music years ago but this is beyond unbeliveable. commercials, vee-jays and half-songs with shitty camera work. Alterman was right yesterday. A non-event by people who want to feel good about themselves without actually doing anything. I'm getting a beer.
Lol,
Kieth shows up here at his kid's little league game on his Harley, smoking and holding a can of beer. He's in a different world than the rest of us.
My dad thinks Mick Jagger should of been an accountant due to his love of money.
Did the Who only do two songs?
I think it's cool that a 60 year old guy can still get up and rock.
When I was a kid, 60 year olds were all playing shuffle board and listening to lawrence welk.
Elevators I've sung in:
Too many.
ooops. Totally wrong. London feed. I can't believe the TV coverage has reduced me to this.
james - they hav very good session musicians.
Atrios ~ how do you think Keith Richards still lives? My father wants to know. He should be dead by all normal caculations.
He ingested a lot of preservatives in the day...
Ya know, I like The Cure and all. I probably own 4 or 5 of their CDs. But if you are doing an event like this, is it really advisable to pick the 3 most obscure songs in your library to play?
GDoyle
What network is airing Live 8????
I'm missing David Gilmour?!?!?!?
moonbootica,
Your dad is a very wise man! Red wine keeps one young and a bit of smoke makes it fun!
Number of ads on BBC 2 / BBC One [they switched halfway through] so far since Live 8 began: 0.
(not to rub it in, or anything...)
"I am willing to love all mankind, except an American. They are a race of convicts, and ought to be thankful for anything we allow them short of hanging."
(not to rub it in, or anything...)
I haven't seen any ads here, either. 'course, I'm watching DVDs because our trees have grown so much they're blocking the satellite signal...
Damn MSM online magazines! Can only emphasize the negative. What about the hug that Roger gave David backstage? Or the schoolroooms they helped to paint? Hmm?
four legs good - my father sez thats absoluty true.
My dad is keen skiier and can't wait to see 70 yr old ski boarders.
I saw Pseudo-Floyd back in 1988, it was okay.
I've never heard of rob thomas.
vaara,
the issue isn't that mtv shows ads, I can accept that. the issue is that probably only 20% of air time not devoted to ads is devoted to showing footage of the concerts.
Pink Floyd coming on now!
Atrios ~ how do you think Keith Richards still lives?
As I'm told, it involves doing complete blood changes every 15-20,000 miles.
rob thomas, the twit from matchbox 20
Here it is...
Cool Pink Floyd!!
When did Pink Floyd last play together?
Pink Floyd look even older. Even older than the Who!
Dark Side of the Moon!
Pink Floyd are on now (at 6 pm EDT, midnight here, just as I predicted in the other thread!)
Watching all the feeds online is wonderful. I've had my headphones on all day long. Grannies Rock!
has ashcroft sung "let the eagle soar" yet ?
My dad thinks Mick Jagger should of been an accountant due to his love of money.
Well, he did go to the London School of Econ.
Don't be afraid to share.
AAHH!!!!
Tis the season...
To Dissent, is to be a true Patriot.
Man, I wish I had gone to London
floydddddddddddddddddddd
very fucking cool
Ya know, I like The Cure and all. I probably own 4 or 5 of their CDs. But if you are doing an event like this, is it really advisable to pick the 3 most obscure songs in your library to play?
What, are they like playing Charlotte Sometimes?
I saw Pink Floyd at one of "The Wall" shows at Nassau Coliseum. Andy Warhol walked right by me!
Holy Shit!!! Floyd sounds awesome!!!
GDoyle
They all look like they should be collecting their Pension.
Pink Floyd look even older. Even older than the Who!
Moonbootica |
Damn, MB - How old might you be?
Ooh, I hope they invite Scissor Sisters to help them with "Comfortably Numb." That would be, like, the coolest thing EVER.
roger be smiling.
They are great.
This is funny:
NEW YORK - A high school social studies teacher took 11 sick days so he could perform as a professional wrestler with moves he called the “lungblower” and the “over drive,” investigators said.
The school system is seeking reimbursement from Matthew Kaye, 31, who has resigned.
According to investigators, Kaye told school officials he was taking the sick days in December and February to care for an ill sister, and he sometimes provided doctors’ notes. They said they later discovered that his wrestling Web site listed him as being on tour for World Wrestling Entertainment on those days
the last time i saw the floyd was on their "animals" tour... did they bring the inflatable pig out of retirement? (Actually, the coolest thing in that show was the entire inflatable fat family - mom, dad, sis, and junior - all quite porcine!)
Please tour please tour please tour...
They all look like they should be collecting their Pension.
Moonbootica
They probably are!
YEA!
Billy B - well i'm only 19 that quote was from my dad who is 59!
Roger Waters looks good.
Pink Floyd just started MONEY, time for MTV to cut away for another announcer shot and commercial.
My dad is keen skiier and can't wait to see 70 yr old ski boarders.
My dad, who is 59 1/2 this month, doesn't like shredders. One cut him off during some spring skiing in 2004, so he fell and separated his shoulder. He lost all the 2005 season because of surgery and rehab (that Mom made him do because his plan was to ski and then get the shoulder fixed after the season!).
BREATHE!
Bring out SYD!!!!
Hey, I'm collecting my pension!
"Money"... obviously. (Though this concert isn't really about money.)
Ooh, I hope they invite Scissor Sisters to help them with "Comfortably Numb." That would be, like, the coolest thing EVER.
brilliant idea.
If VH1/MTV cuts out on this early, there is going to be hell to pay!!!
GDoyle
I'm sitting here watching Pink Floyd and am shocked to see the boys really getting into it.
Roger looks way better than david.
still not a word on CNN.com about Rove and Plame...
well i'm only 19
You know, you get over that fairly quickly.
some of the best lyrics ever:
New car, caviar, four star daydream,
Think I’ll buy me a football team.
Ooh, I hope they invite Scissor Sisters to help them with "Comfortably Numb."
oooh I sure don't. I LOATHE that cover!
wow, MTV hasn't cut away yet. someone tell them that it's time for a Cribs marathon. need to remind the sheeple that it's not about helping people, it's about having bling and cristal.
I saw Floyd at Clevelad stadium in '87 (1st show in the US in ten years)and Roger Waters at Blossom few weeks later. Both shows were great. This is good to see....if anything comes from this maybe they will tour. Now that's a fundraiser....
I wanna hear "Careful With That Axe Eugene"
If my internet connection drops. There will be true hell.
Maybe they will perform the entire record?
NTodd - my dad sez excellent, he also sez modern skies are much easier and he took up skiing again 3 yrs ago after a break of 25 yrs.
This is kind of a real hack set list. Can't they throw in Astronomy Domine or something cool?
Bring out SYD!!!!
What'll he do, drool, scream about evil gnomes, and then curl into a ball?
"did they bring the inflatable pig out of retirement?"
yes. It was floating above them during "Dark Side."
Or something new.
I'd settle for anything off of Meddle.
Don't give me that do do do good bullshit...what's this concert for?
Oooohhhhyeah
"Only guy in rock history to play
lead drums.
Listen to the early Who stuff....
nothing like it before or since.....
steve simels"
Steve: I thought you liked the guys that did the plopplop 2 and 4 thing?
Ughh..Floyd with...is that nick mason on drums? Plodplodplod.
The thing with Keith and Neil Young is the worse you look when you were young from living too hard and being naturally ugly, the better it seems when you're in your 60's and still rockin. People have had some time to get used to you looking hammered. Somebody who was considered a pretty boy usually scares people when you see them as old men (or vimen).
Don't count on hearing "Astronomy" or "Set the controls" today.
how does gilmour look ? is he pushing 350 lbs yet ?
dave's a wanker, but he sure is the tremolo master
I'm a musician, and I had the pleasure of doing a tour in which we "borrowed"
some of the Stones' road crew, including the "front of house" sound guy and the
monitor engineer. They were chock full of Stones stories. In general, the guys
on the crew all loved Keith, but Mick was apparently kind of a diva.
JK47 | 07.02.05 - 6:02 pm | #
To which I can only say "wow."
And by the way, I'm downright
inspired by the above average
rocking done by several of the
geezers on this show.....
Roger looks like he's having a great time.
What'll he do, drool, scream about evil gnomes, and then curl into a ball?
IF ONLY!!!!
how does gilmour look ? is he pushing 350 lbs yet ?
xegar
A bit pudgy.
Certainly did "dress" for the occassion. But Atrios is right the tremolo is very fine.
Money, get away.
Get a good job with good pay and you’re okay.
Money, it’s a gas.
Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash.
New car, caviar, four star daydream,
Think I’ll buy me a football team.
Money, get back.
I’m all right jack keep your hands off of my stack.
Money, it’s a hit.
Don’t give me that do goody good bullshit.
I’m in the high-fidelity first class traveling set
And I think I need a lear jet.
Money, it’s a crime.
Share it fairly but don’t take a slice of my pie.
Money, so they say
Is the root of all evil today.
But if you ask for a raise it’s no surprise that they’re
Giving none away.
"Pink Floyd just started MONEY, time for MTV to cut away for another announcer shot and commercial."
I got VH1 on, and suprisingly they are letting them play instead of the inane blather of MTV.
One of these days I'm going to cut you into little pieces.....
I'm reposting this from the end of the Rove thread to the Live 8 thread.
I'll never understand this vehement attraction to "classic" rock. It's all just nostalgia crap like listening to 50s do-whop music.
Having come of age in the 1960s I couldn't have imagined anyone then wetting themselves over music from the 1920s - 40 years earlier. Christ that would have been like listening to vaudeville show tunes in 1965. You'd have been declared legally insane.
I simply can't figure the attraction of 60 year old guys performing songs they wrote 30-40 years earlier.
It really beats me!
Just got home and turned it on. David Gilmour!!!!
Why is Rick Wright playing a Kurzweil? Can't someone get him a real Fender Rhodes?
Floyd sounds great though. It's hard to believe that music this good was once actually extremely popular.
I think it must be time to send another email to CNN explaining why I hardly tune them in anymore.
Nine minutes after the hour and the only news has been the concert and finding the little girl. In the real world, those stories would wind up the news, if there were time.
Shit, they haven't played "Careful With That Axe, Eugene since Berlin '71 I think.
Goddamn, they're geezers!
Roger looks way better than david.
Yeah, I prefer David as a musician, but I'd probably sleep with Roger first. Nice hair still.
I forgot how much I love "Won't get Fooled Again"
I need to open our pool today. Something tells me Ofjoshua is not going to be happy with me.
wow...brings back memories... or not
And by the way, I'm downright
inspired by the above average
rocking done by several of the
geezers on this show.....
I agree... that is all....
And by the way, I'm downright
inspired by the above average
rocking done by several of the
geezers on this show.....
thirded.
Damn.... but they sound fucking great.
I wish I were in London.
You know, Dave looks like Eisenhower.
"Ike on Lead"
Please sir. May I have some more!
dancinfool ~ my dad sex congratulations. Next yr he gets a bus pass and heating allowance. He plans to spend the heating allowance on red wine.
I don't care if they're 80, if they still sound good it works for me.
Roj dedicated "wish" to Syd, awesome!
Oh yeah, they still got it.
I hope they do "Several Species of Small Fury Animals Gathered Together In A Cave and Grooving With A Pict"
GDoyle
Nick Mason looks like the Chancellor of the Exchequer or something.
"Having come of age in the 1960s I couldn't have imagined anyone then wetting themselves over music from the 1920s - 40 years earlier. Christ that would have been like listening to vaudeville show tunes in 1965. You'd have been declared legally insane."
Bunk. Good music is timeless. I can listen to The Duke from the 30's, and it's still great. Or a symphony 150 years old. If it's good, it lasts.
OT but THIS POSTED AT
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07.02.2005 Lawrence O'Donnell
Rove Blew CIA Agent's Cover
I revealed in yesterday's taping of the McLaughlin Group that Time magazine's emails will reveal that Karl Rove was Matt Cooper's source. I have known this for months but didn't want to say it at a time that would risk me getting dragged into the grand jury.
McLaughlin is seen in some markets on Friday night, so some websites have picked it up, including Drudge, but I don't expect it to have much impact because McLaughlin is not considered a news show and it will be pre-empted in the big markets on Sunday because of tennis.
Since I revealed the big scoop, I have had it reconfirmed by yet another highly authoritative source. Too many people know this. It should break wide open this week. I know Newsweek is working on an 'It's Rove!' story and will probably break it tomorrow.
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*sez i mean dancifool, darn red wine lol
Steve: I thought you liked the guys that did the plopplop 2 and 4 thing?
jdw:
Where'd you get that idea?
"Money"... obviously.
Dateline: Fall Break, 1988. Location: Harvard Square, Cambridge, MA. The Cast: me and a bunch of Harvard and Colby buddies, mightily buzzed.
The Scene: me and Ned doing an a capella duet of Money (I sang, he did the bass line, tho we switched when the sax solo came up) on the street corner, with Evan's hat on the ground.
Our take: $1.67.
We bought some YooHoos. I hate YooHoo, but peer pressure, ya know.
I love this song
Good music is timeless.
Damn right!
They should put up Modest Mouse or Sleater Kinney- three of them attended my high school near Seattle with two dropping out, and so it would be cool if they became the next arena rock standards.
Anyway, regarding governments in Africa, you should read Wretched of the EArth by Franz Fanon. He was an african-french doctor born in 1925 in France, and he worked in Algiers, and observed colonialism in Africa. He developed a deep anger and wrote extremely well about the psychology of what was going on in the colonized populations. Before reading this, I hadn't been so informed on what was happening in Algeria when France started to lose its grip, and the french started carrying arms and shooting local residents and creating a whole mythology that Africans weren't capable of education and governing themselves. Then when colonial european countries finally left, total power was always handed over to a corrupt elite, and the basics of citizen-democracy such as education, a free press, grassroots organizations had been demolished due to the long periods of violence.
This book applies as well today as during the 1970s
Good music is timeless. You'll get old too someday punk, if you're lucky.
Damn. I also forgot how much I love Pink Floyd.
Here comes the Fog!
Damn, they've still got it.
"I want you to show me the way..."
Wow, they haven't cut into Pink Floyd's set with inane VJ chatter and commercials yet.
Amazing.
Motley Crue has to perform in Toronto against Floyd in London.
Poor Crue.
Our take: $1.67.
I'm probably the one who dropped it in the hat. The Square was my second home in those days.
*sez i mean dancifool, darn red wine lol
And wait till you're greakin 60!
Gilmour reminds me of Hank Hill's dad. Great musician, though....
CNN is pathetic. Being owned by aol/time/warner has them neck deep in this rove/plame mess, and they will dance around this thing as long as they can, while destroying the 4th estate.
someone give that network back to turner, fire the human turds that sit front of the cameras, and rehire mike malloy.
Syria Mosque early 70's damn...flashback
I'm holding up my bic!
Wow. Still as good as it ever was.
Ah well. No Scissor Sisters. Renato, you can rest easy!
"Where'd you get that idea?
steve simels"
I thought we were talking drummers one night and that you(?) liked the guys that just kept time...2&4, minimum fills, no need for technical ability.
"Christ that would have been like listening to vaudeville show tunes in 1965. You'd have been declared legally insane."
Well, Tiny Tim was doing it. I guess that kind of proves your point.
"I simply can't figure the attraction of 60 year old guys performing songs they wrote 30-40 years earlier. It really beats me!"
Check out the suckitude of "modern" rock bands like Puddle of Crud, Linkin Bizkit and the worst rock band of all time, Creed. That's why "classic rock" is popular, because what passes as mainstream rock today huffs such massive donkey dong.
Actually, bands like the Flaming Lips, Modest Mouse, Wilco, the Strokes, Radiohead, etc. are making the "classic rock" of tomorrow.
Breathe!
Money!
Wish You Were Here!
My highschool daze redux. Thanks guys.
Here's our set closer, I'm guessing.
God now I can go to work with a BIG smile on my face...
encore! encore!
Frank Rich:
As we saw on Tuesday night, doomsday isn't the surefire hit it used to be for Mr. Bush. Now that the rhetorical arsenal of W.M.D.'s and mushroom clouds is bare, he had little choice but to bring back that oldie but goodie, 9/11, as the specter of the doom that awaits us if we don't stay the course - his course - in Iraq. By the fifth time he did so, it was hard not to think of that legendary National Lampoon cover: "If you don't buy this magazine, we'll kill this dog."
Linkin Bizkit
Alexander Cockburn at Counterpunch repeats Iran's dismissal of Condi's warmongering as scorned colege love but goes on to explain previous uses by the Iranian government of this smear. Even female-cop-battering German Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer has been accused of lovesickness with a Persian. It must be the eyes...
" a distant ship's smoke on the horizon......"
I'll never understand this vehement attraction to "classic" rock. It's all just
nostalgia crap like
listening to 50s do-whop music.
Sorry, dude, lots of doo-wop is
great.
And I'm too young to have
experienced it back in the day.
Well, sort of.
I'm holding up my bic!
Awww....
JK47 ~ I totally agree!
buzzbomb; go to vh1.
"Poor Crue.
David (Austin Tx):
bwahahaha!
I'm missing motley crue in Toronto right now!
And by the way, I'm downright
inspired by the above average
rocking done by several of the
geezers on this show.....
Me too.
Hey agent orange- we still listen to Mozart too. Sometimes the music just stands up.
Now that I'm pushing 50- I really don't feel much differently than I did at 30- why shouldn't these guys still be able to play?
"classic rock" of tomorrow.
Add to that Tool, A Perfect Circle + The Mars Volta.
I'm not much of Floyd fan (except
for the stuff with Syd)
but I must say they sound great.
I'm probably the one who dropped it in the hat. The Square was my second home in those days.
Did you get in a fight with a big guy named John?
We also did Roxanne. Only got a quarter for that one, but the guy crossed the street to drop the coin.
"Having come of age in the 1960s I couldn't have imagined anyone then wetting themselves over music from the 1920s - 40 years earlier. Christ that would have been like listening to vaudeville show tunes in 1965. You'd have been declared legally insane."
Oh don't be such a crank. I love ragtime, swing and just about anything with sounds that touch my heart.
And I truly dig the music of the 30's that evolved to Big Band in the 40's.
This book applies as well today as during the 1970s.
alter - Gee. Yah think?
Sigh. Where the hell are the smoked oysters and champagne?
FUCK MTV!
FUCK! Idiots!
Sweet The Wall animation on the screens...
Wow, this sounds great. Please tour.
I CANNOT BELIEVE these MTV pukers are interrupting "Comfortably Numb"...
Complete crap!
Whoops, spoke too soon. Some stupid fuckheads are now talking over "Comfortably Numb."
Axe-murdering is too good for them.
OK, so now we know what sort of music people who are 20 are supposed to like, and what sort of music people who are 60 are supposed to like...
I'm 40, so where does that leave me??
WANKERS!!!
FUCKING AARRRGGHHH!!!!!!!!!! The Director's and veejays need to be neutered!
Someone cut that woman's throat!
"classic rock" of tomorrow.
Green Day
Ahhhhhhhhhhhh...Pinkus Floydus, as a deejay in Cleveland used to call 'em.
And I saw The Who with Herman's Hermits. I think it was in 1403.
Here comes the lead..
Sorry, dude, lots of doo-wop is
great.
I agree- there used to be an accapello group that would sing do-wop in front of the Chemical Bank (now chase) branch at 72nd and Columbus on summer evenings.
They were fucking great.
http://music.aol.com has live feeds from all venues....
who knew roger could have fun?
great stuff
Seriously, someone needs to lose a job over this. Lets storm MTV's offices with pitchforks.
GDoyle
Will Live 8 conclude with Roger Waters shooting Dave Gilmour?
I'm 40, so where does that leave me??
Elevator music and shuffleboard?
I second, third, and fourth Green Day as the Classic Rock of Tomorrow.
Yeah, Floyd are surprisingly good, after so long apart. They should tour...they've still got it.
"who knew roger could have fun?
great stuff
Atrios"
Buy his In the Flash DVD...blows this outta the Water, er.....
damn my eyes are tearing up watching floyd on a 330Kbps connection with a great sound system.
who woulda thunk?
FUCK MTV!!!!
jdw:
I must have been drunk.
I like lots of flash drummers as
as much as I love
groove druumers.
All music sucks since Kansas broke up.
Also, a lot of music, and especially the natural tendency of catchy popular tunes to flesh out current political sentiments, either gets deliberately forgotten or subtle metaphors get distorted so they no longer have meaning.
yeah, I have the computer going too. They're still cookin', just not as loud.
turn off the frickin' smoke machine already!
aaaaaand...cut to commercial right during the climax of "Comfortably Numb."
Corporate cocksuckers
I was watching on TV for the superior sound to my little computer speakers, but I'm back on AOL now because... I won't get fooled again.
Sweet The Wall animation on the screens...
A couple years ago they did a great exhibition at Rock/Roll hall of Fame in Cleveland.
vaara ~ my dad sez that the smoke disguises their ages.
My kids are on my back because they want to go to the grocery store and I want to watch Floyd finish. What universe am I in?
WOW, Roger looks like he's having the time of his life!
I like the "Poverty" across the brick wall background... whoever's producing this gig is doing a great job
"Astronomy"
BlakNo1
That went thru my head right before I read your comment.
.
All music sucks since Kansas broke up.
Carry on, my wayward Thers.
Will Live 8 conclude with Roger Waters shooting Dave Gilmour?
Howzabout he shoots the fucking pricks at MTV who not only have to talk over the "historic" reunion of Pink Floyd they've been pimping all fucking day, but then cut away from for a fucking commercial???
More More!
i cannot believe they cut away before the end of "comfortably numb."
no, wait. i can.
All music sucks since Kansas broke up.
Thersites | Email | Homepage | 07.02.05 - 6:28 pm | #
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Yikes! The trool found a way back in and it's posing as Thersites!
I'm 40, so where does that leave me??
Like what you want and don't apologize for it.
Fuck, everyone wants to put people into age categories. Fuck that bullshit.
I suppose if they showed too much of the actual concert on TV it would cut into DVD sales.
Fuck these people to death.
I'll never understand this vehement attraction to "classic" rock. It's all just nostalgia crap like listening to 50s do-whop music.
Having come of age in the 1960s I couldn't have imagined anyone then wetting themselves over music from the 1920s - 40 years earlier
There was this show called Lawrence Welk, they performed traditional music on public television in the 60s and 70s. There's a place called Branson Missouri where the last of the Lawrence Welk performers have gone to die. People still play the blues and jazz (To get all meta on ya, classic rock band Steely Dan put a version of Duke Eliingtons East St Louis Toodleoo, written in the twenties, on Katy Lied in 1975).
That was fucking great!!
that was awesome. well worth the wait. I guess the next thing is stevie wonder in philly? other feeds?
We just don't understand how people got along watching musical performances without sonme unbathed illiterate mumbling totally meaningless and unoriginal nonsense over the song, or without Carson Daily's witty and incisive introductions.
"I must have been drunk."
haha...maybe it was me, Steve. All I remember was a guitarist complaining they couldn't find drummers to do the ringo 2&4.
Ripley: London had the best production team of the whole lot.
GOD DAMN MTV TALKING HEADS STICKING THEIR EMPTY HEADED OBSERVATIONS IN DURING THE BEGINNING AND MIDDLE OF A HISTORIC PINK FLOYD RE-UNION!! I HAD TEARS FLOWING DURING COMFORTABLY NUMB AND THEN THOSE TWO AIR HEADS COME ON SAYING HOW COOL AND AWESOME IT WAS THAT PINK FLOYD WAS HERE LIVE WHILE THE BAND WAS STILL PLAYING BEHIND THEM. FUCKIN INCREDIBLE!!!!!
Can Live Aid use Rove's skull as a percussion instrument?
Maybe not, but I'd love to see somebody do to Karl Rove what Townshend used to do to Rickenbackers. I've got a question about the whole Plame case (which you KNOW our media is going to try to give the White House a pass on)? Rove, at that time, was Deputy Chief of Staff, which I would imagine is ans administrative post, is it not? If so, is it customary for someone who is a glorified office manager/PR flack to have access to such classified information as the identities of CIA operatives? Couldn't this also be raised as an issue should our useless Media decide that Rove's part in the Plame Affair is no big deal? Just askin'
Roger Waters looked happy!
Wow, and meanwhile over in Paris The Cure is still rocking doing a cool version of "Just Like Heaven"
GDoyle
Awesome. I hope a Pink Floyd World Tour is in the works.
Rofl On the Toronto feed they're playing Pink Floyd in between acts... hehehe
Stevie Wonder in Phila.
"I agree- there used to be an accapello group that would sing do-wop in front of the Chemical Bank (now chase) branch at 72nd and Columbus on summer evenings."
Yup. And kids that think rap is 'new' oughta pick up the Last Poets...shit is like 30 years old.
YOu know, those MTV veejays got torn up for exactly the same thing during Live Aid, i.e., not shutting the fuck up while the music was playing.
Fuck, everyone wants to put people into age categories. Fuck that bullshit.
four legs good
I love it when people try to do that to me!
I always win at the Fair with the guy who guesses your age.
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patriotboy,
I thoroughly agree with you. Green Day is every bit as representative of now as Floyd is of my "time," although as long as I'm alive this is my time too.
Green Day's a keeper, for sure.
Yikes! The trool found a way back in and it's posing as Thersites!
Hey, what's the matter with Kansas?
there's good music now, some of it popular, but for a variety of reasons (many unrelated to music quality) I do think that the equivalent of "classic rock" will never really happen again.
Lemme say this - whilst I've heard Flink P for the last 30+ years ad nauseum and have liked them, but grown tired, I am blown away by this performance.
Waters has hated, I mean HATED the rest of the group for a quarter of a century and to watch him as animated as he was,
Like, WOW.
Well, I remember the MTV dipshits talking over the performances during the original Live Aid shows in '85. Camera whores, all. Only, I don't remember there being commercials. There may have been...but there was a lot more music...
Stevie Wonder on now...right in the middle of "Master Blaster" - FUCKERS
BTW, there's a really nifty DVD
that came out this year called
the Pink Floyd/Syd Barrett Story.
Excellent documentary with
really cool footage of Syd.
Great music, obviously.
I can't believe they cut away to a commercial.
Fucking pricks.
You know, I'm not one who thinks Pink Floyd's "reunion" is akin to the second coming of Christ or anything, but really - does the "Music TeleVision" channel really have a fucking clue what they're doing? Talking over the "historic" reunion with inane commentary about how "historical" it all is is bad enough. But fucking cutting away from the "historic" reunion for five minutes of fucking commercials?!?! Can someone please send a suicide bomber to the next MTV corporate meeting?
I'll never understand this vehement attraction to "classic" rock. It's all just
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Oh, fuck off.
I cannot believe the powers-that-are at MTV Networks broke away from "Comfortably Numb."
I'm not much of a Pink Floyd fan, but I know enough fans to know that people have been wishing and hoping for this reunion forever. And to cut away from this is just so very, very wrong.
Maybe if they hadn't devoted so much attention to Linkin Park about 2 hours ago, they could have run their precious ads then and we could have seen all of Pink Floyd's set!
The whole thing was on AOL. live8live.com. That was worth my whole internet bill for the year.
I don't care what Robert Smith looks like. I love the Cure.
Cure update: I think they decided to do a full show. They were on 20 minutes before Floyd and still going strong 5 minutes afterwards. Just segued into "Boys Don't Cry"
GDoyle
I got home in time for Pink Floyd.
There is goodness in the universe.
Linkin Park did a great set, too.
Bunk. Good music is timeless. I can listen to The Duke from the 30's, and it's still great. Or a symphony 150 years old. If it's good, it lasts.
jdw
Take the age distribution spectrum of everyone listening to the Live 8 concerts whether there or listening remotely. Announce that tomorrow at the same venues a concert of Duke Ellington's Greatest songs will be played and on the following day All Mozart All Day. How many people will show up or tune in for those events and what age distribution will you get.
I understand why some of us enjoy these acts who lived through them, but my point was this wild mass appeal. That's what mystifies me.
If Duke Ellington's and Mozart's music are great and therefore timeless while will almost no one (compared to todays listener's) show up? They just won't ...no way!
Steve, I would run out and pick up that DVD, but maybe there is someone who can burn a copy for me (HINT) (HINT).
The Cure sounds really good right now.
Atrios ~ who knows! fashions come and go. Look at ABBA and the Beach Boys who fell out of fashion but are now very popular.
Stevie Wonder is burnin the place up, too.
Deeply regretted is the failure, on the part of ViacomMtvVh1CbsWhiteWestinghouse, to insert SeanPuffDaddyPDiddyCombs into Pink Floyd's music. Pink Floyd, being racists, unapologetically produced songs without any grunting or interruption by guest rappers for their entire career. Totally unlike the racial sensitivity and worldly savvy shown by say Fred Durst.
Can someone please send a suicide bomber to the next MTV corporate meeting?
dave™®©
Or a "homicide bomber," as Fux News calls them.
"there's good music now, some of it popular, but for a variety of reasons (many unrelated to music quality) I do think that the equivalent of "classic rock" will never really happen again.
Atrios"
Nah. Part of it being classic, besides it's basic goodness, is that a person relates it to an era of growing up. Each generation will have their classics.
Who is that high-fivin white guy up there with Stevie?
Duh, if they hadn't interrupted the Floyd reunion with their MTV crap, you could have taped it, and then what's the incentive to pay $39 for the DVD?
Sing it little Stevie!
I do think that the equivalent of "classic rock" will never really happen again.
I agree.
There was a time when bands could take chances and just do some wild crap- the record companies are too commercial now.
Stevie Wonder- cool. His music stands up too.
Stevie Wonder on the Philly feed.
Woo Hoo!
Will somebody please report what The Cure set included?
yea, god, as I said before...it isn't the ads (though they're annoying), it's the CHATTER. Have we gone so meta that viewers no longer want to actually watch something, they want watch people talking about the thing they can't watch? [I believe the answer is no]
jdw ~ anybody born now has 60 to 70s years worth of 'pop' music to explore. Recorded on many mediums.
"Classic Rock" can never happen again because the industry is no longer what it used to be more than anything else.
More Frank Rich:
Mr. Spielberg's movie illuminates, too, how Mr. Bush has flubbed the basic storytelling essential to sustain public support for his Iraq adventure. The president has made a tic of hammering in melodramatic movie tropes: good vs. evil, you're with us or you're with the terrorists, "wanted dead or alive," "bring 'em on," "mission accomplished." When you relay a narrative in that style, the audience expects you to stick to the conventions of the genre; the story can end only with the cavalry charging in to win the big final battle. That's how Mr. Spielberg deploys his platoons, "Saving Private Ryan"-style, in "War of the Worlds." By contrast, Mr. Bush never marshaled the number of troops needed to guarantee Iraq's security and protect its borders; he has now defined "mission accomplished" down from concrete victory to the inchoate spreading of democracy. To start off sounding like Patton and end up parroting Woodrow Wilson is tantamount to ambushing an audience at a John Wayne movie with a final reel by Frank Capra.
haha...maybe it was me, Steve. All I remember was a guitarist complaining they
couldn't find drummers to do the ringo 2&4.
jdw | Email | 07.02.05 - 6:31 pm | #
Now I remember. Wasn't me -- it
was Backslider. He's a bass player
with a blues/r&b bent so he likes
groove drummers.
And they can be hard to find....
I think we can safely summarize as follows:
Fuck Viacom!
And with that, I'm off to bed. 'Tis late, and although BBC is switching to Philly shortly (hosted by the lovely and talented Graham Norton), I'm Live 8'ed out.
Stevie Wonder is the shit. God damn!
Wingnuts must be having a really bad day. First the Rove news, then a Live 8 festival with no Reba McEntire, no Lee Greenwood and no mentions of 9/11.
Listen to that voice!
"I don't have a problem with drugs. I have a problem with the police." Keith Richards
mena, it's Rob Thomas form Matchbox 20
I think that white guy just whispered into Stevie's ear: "Dude, take it down on a notch. Too many 60+ year old men burning down the house isn't gonna be good for the industry"
All music sucks since Kansas broke up.
Thersites | Email | Homepage | 07.02.05 - 6:28 pm | #
Sorry, Thers they're still together and I think that better explains music sucking.
(They'll be at the jackson NJ Six Flags on the 24th)
MTV/VH1 can PARTIALLY redeem themselves if they pull of a live interview with Waters, Gilmour, Wright and Mason.
GDoyle
nah, I think there will still be plenty of good music produed and some of it will even be heard. But, the kind of cultural touchstones, supergroups lasting decades, will never really exist again. The closest thing we've had recently is U2, and while they're certainly popular and have endured they still don't come close to existing in the same space that zeppelin, floyd, beatles, stones, etc... did and still do. This isn't just about music quality, I don't want to have that argument, it's about a variety of things which have changed which tend to work against some sort of common enduring pop culture.
I understand why some of us enjoy these acts who lived through them, but my point was this wild mass appeal. That's what mystifies me.
You obviously have no soul.
Pity.
Ripley - well, thank goodness they got him off of there
Goddamn them, again!!!
that was the dude from matchbox 20, thomas.
MTV/VH1 commentator: I just love these guys! It's so exciting, Pink Floyd is one of the greatest bands of all time and one of my personal favorites.
By the way, which one's Pink?
""Classic Rock" can never happen again because the industry is no longer what it used to be more than anything else."
Bingo.
I'm planning on holding a series of concerts to raise money to prevent VH1/MTV personalities FROM TALKING IN THE MIDDLE OF PERFORMANCES.
I guess all these d-bags went to the Jim McKay School of Broadcasting.
Oh, and Stevie's voice is the bomb.
JK47: Toby Keith was in Philly singing about giving whiskey to his horse. So they had that going for them.
Is/will Stevie play Superstition?
by way of fark, give money to political organ not quite as asinine as the ohio coin collector's league and get copies of a secret report on North Korea!! Now is that better than a $1K a plate chicken dinner or what?
As someone who also came of age in the late 60's and actually started playing in rock bands in Jr. High in 65 -66 (you shoulda heard our Louie Louie, Psychotic Reaction and Gimme Some lovin) I concur that we would not have dreamed of listening to music from the 1930's or 40's except as a goofy novelty (ala Tiny Tim and whoever the fuk did Winchester Cathedral.) The blues were an exception thanks to John Mayall and, believe it or not, Eric Claptrap. However by the time I was a Senior in HS I did start to play with some guys who were 'trying' to play some jazz (Dave Brubeck, Phil Woods type of things). And in that era we were serious musicologists compared to 99% of everyone else. So it's not that we're saying you shouldn't listen to this 30 - 40 year old stuff, we're just saying we didn't listen to very much stuff that old when all this music was just comming out. (I mean, who would?)
"I understand why some of us enjoy these acts who lived through them, but my point was this wild mass appeal. That's what mystifies me."
I'm not sure what you are saying. On any given Saturday night how many people worldwide are sitting in symphony halls and opera houses? Lots and lots...and they are listening to the work of people that have been dead 100 years. Good shit endures. Had those musicians had the technology available today for mass distribution...could they fill stadiums? I'd guess yes.
Part of what we are seeing today is the artists themselves are still alive. Once they croak how big will the croiwds be, and their age distribution?
Atrios ~ My dad agrees, he sez that there will be no more major major groups, because of modern technolony anybody can write and produce their own songs now.
They're doing "Numb" on the global feed at http://music.aol.com/live_8_conc...oncert/
live_now
Steve, I would run out and pick up that DVD, but maybe there is someone who
can burn a copy for me (HINT) (HINT).
The Kenosha Kid | Email | Homepage | 07.02.05 - 6:35 pm | #
No can do, buddy -- don't have
a DVD burner.
"Classic Rock" can never happen again because the industry is no longer what it used to be more than anything else.
Hey! that's what I said.
Okay, you said it better.
Sadly, you hear more of the WHO on a Saab commercial than MTV will allow you to hear.
JK47 wrote:
ingnuts must be having a really bad day. First the Rove news, then a Live 8 festival with no Reba McEntire, no Lee Greenwood and no mentions of 9/11.
True, but I saw that douche bag Toby Keith was on in Philly earlier.
GDoyle
The closest thing we've had recently is U2, and while they're certainly popular and have endured they still don't come close to existing in the same space that zeppelin, floyd, beatles, stones, etc... did and still do.
I vehemently disagree about U2. They're definitely in that league. What's astonishing to me is that they're the only band like that these days.
Have we gone so meta that viewers no longer want to actually watch something, they want watch people talking about the thing they can't watch? [I believe the answer is no]
Atrios
this is the most infuritating thing to me. i wouldn't mind the endless ads if they would just actually show the goddam performances without having to have some no-talent asshat...
[WHAT YOU ARE READING RIGHT NOW IS A POST IN THE COMMENTS SECTION IN RESPONSE TO SOMETHING THAT ATRIOS JUST SAID ABOUT THE LIVE 8 CONCERT. THIS IS AN AWESOME COMMENT! IT REALLY IS AMAZING TO BE HERE READING THIS WITH EVERYONE AROUND THE WORLD! A POST LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN WAITING ALL DAY FOR! LET'S READ ALONG!]
...and to sum up, if that's what is really happening, they might as well just give me some turkee.
Did anyone catch Deep Purple on the Toronto stage? I saw them about 18 years ago and Gillen blew me away. Wondering how they sound now and who was playing....
I would agree with you, Atrios, except that I see the internet filling at least some of the space that used to be occupied by things like AOR and local record stores, things that helped disseminate a lot of this stuff for my gen., and that are deader than doornails,
Holy crap - I've been watching the internet feeds all day but switched to TV for Floyd. Now I see what everyone was complaining about. Jeebus H. Tapdancing Christ! BTW, Floyd finished the set maybe a minute after the MTV feed cut away and Waters called Dave over for a group bow. Too bad the TV audience was forced to watch a commercial telling them how great MTV is.
Probably been said often, but the aol feeds will be up for several weeks for streaming, so fret not over missing some of the sets.
ntodd,
well, I guess U2 is "close enough" to qualify, but I still think that while they endure, their music doesn't quite as much as the other bands referenced
But still, yes, in any case they're the only ones to come around post 1980.
bah.. sorry for the multi-post... reload's a bitch.
Sadly, you hear more of the WHO on a Saab commercial than MTV will allow you to hear.
You know what pisses me off? some company using the beginning of "Teenage Wasteland" for some fucking corporate bullshit.
I can't think of the ad, but the the sentiments from Teenage Wasteland are like totally opposite of what's being advertised.
I don't know why i typed record stores when I meant *marketing*.
Get Back!!!!
Welcome back to Hyde Park London with MTV where we still haven't -- and never will -- figure out which one's Pink...
Sir Paul still rocks.
GDoyle
If God existed, the Replacements
would be doing this show.
If you'd like to give MTV a piece of your mind about their fucking idiotic coverage, here's their website's message boards:
http://www.mtv.com/community/
mes...boardsdir.jhtml
Click on "All Things Rock" - you'll see a few pithy comments already. Add your own!
I don't want to believe that it is outside the realm of possibility for bands to achieve the same status/cache/whatever of bands like The Who, or Pink Floyd.
However, the industry is not helping anyone get there. It will be a band on an independent label, who can get the appropriate means of distribution to succeed. Increasingly that is going to be the internet.
And, BTW. Stevie is still hittin' it hard
On any given Saturday night how many people worldwide are sitting in symphony halls and opera houses? Lots and lots...and they are listening to the work of people that have been dead 100 years. Good shit endures.
And as I observed in class this week yet again, Beethoven's 9th determined how much capacity there is on a standard CD...
Oh gosh, don't let me interrupt your self-important blabbering so I can perform! Just go right on...I'll wait...I'm only one of the Beatles...
Jeebus Paul, just let somebody else sing it.
McCartney on the London feed
Deprogrammer: I got Paul McCartney out of Wings.
Homer: You fool! He was the most talented one!
But still, yes, in any case they're the only ones to come around post 1980.
Atrios | Homepage | 07.02.05 - 6:44 pm | #
I'd add REM.
I'll never understand this vehement attraction to "classic" rock. It's all just nostalgia crap like listening to 50s do-whop music.
Well, it's because rock n roll is different from other music forms. When you listen to rock n roll, you're listening to the music which influenced it; You're listening to Chuck Berry's machine gun-like guitar riffs or Willie Dixon's bass lines. It's a pity really. Todays bands are influenced by NOBODY; all you have to listen to on the radio are the same generic, mediocre "American Idol" rejects. Trust me, nobody's gonna be citing Kanye West or Coldplay as an influence 30 years from now. As for "Classic Rock" as a radio format, I agree, it sucks. It's just the same five songs from the same 5 bands in constant rotation, pretty boring stuff. Listen to the stuff that doesn't get played on the radio (even so called "Rock" stations) and you'll understand why old farts like myself still listen to it. Just my opinion (it's worth what it costs).
You know what pisses me off? some company using the beginning of "Teenage Wasteland" for some fucking corporate bullshit.
I can't think of the ad, but the the sentiments from Teenage Wasteland are like totally opposite of what's being advertised.
That's Townshend's fault. He's selling those tunes to everyone, but wouldn't give Michael Moore permission to use "Won't get fooled again" in Fahrenheit 911
"I vehemently disagree about U2. They're definitely in that league."
Agreed.
Drive My Car!!!
Yes!
long ago there was a time when songs were the protest.
well, I guess U2 is "close enough" to qualify, but I still think that while they endure, their music doesn't quite as much as the other bands referenced
Tell ya what, I'll bet you 10,000 quatloos (adjusted for inflation) that in 20 years you're opinion will change. I'll contact you via subspace relay in 2025...
If God existed, the Replacements would be doing this show. steve simels
And they'd be drunkenly wailing "Karl's Got A Boner"
When's Flock of Seagulls coming on?
my dad findes Bono a sanctimonious little prick.
I've never been keen on U2. I prefer REM personally.
Why couldn't Yoko have married Paul?
I don't want to believe that it is outside the realm of possibility for bands to achieve the same status/cache/whatever of bands like The Who, or Pink Floyd.
However, the industry is not helping anyone get there.
No, because nowadays when one album stiffs, the band gets dropped from its contract and is never heard from again. Record companies will not develop artists anymore...in that sense it has gone back to the way things were in the 40s and 50s...
Sir Paul looks great!
Must be the love of a good woman....
U2's been around 25 years and they're still vital. I think they're penthouse suite material.
McCartney bugs me these days. I don't know why.
Oh shit, there's George Michael singing backup.
Fuckin eh... will McCartney ever sound bad? I've never seen him live where he and his band didn't kill... and he's what, 64 or so?
is that NTodd signing with Paul?
But still, yes, in any case they're the only ones to come around post 1980.
Atrios | Homepage | 07.02.05 - 6:44 pm | #
I'd add REM.
See, as much as I love REM, I wouldn't include them. Well, it's all subjective, anyway.
As Duke said, if it sounds good, it is good.
yeah, simels is right. Add REM.
4Legs--is Maxx still being skitty?
Oh, speaking of R.E.M....that blue shit on Michael Stipe's face...he looked like a prat.
I'm sorry, but he did.
If you want to know why there's no more great 'classic rock' anymore, ask Eli. It's all his fault.
Aw JEEZUS!
George Michael?
I can't think of the ad, but the the sentiments from Teenage Wasteland are like totally opposite of what's being advertised.
Same as with using Creedence's "Fortunate Son" with "patriotic" images to sell blue jeans. That one just about made me gag.
I'm going to see REM live on the 10th July.
Their support is The Zutons, Idlewild and Jonathan Rice.
Good evening to the children in the east. Good afternoon to the rest.
Seems as though music is the topic - and I am pretty ignorant about this. So, I will lurk.
best to all,
SD
I can't believe they didn't show any of stevie wonder.
He still rocks.
And everyone SHUT THE FUCK UP!!
This is why I don't listen to talk radio. I'm sick of people yakking.
"I don't want to believe that it is outside the realm of possibility for bands to achieve the same status/cache/whatever of bands like The Who, or Pink Floyd."
I dunno. It seems like there are more filthy rich musicians/singers then ever...big crowds, etc. What does seem wierd is that outside of REM/U2 there doesn't seem to be much staying power...maybe because they don't have the talent, or their music is marketed to bubblegums, or that they get so bloody rich they don't have to work beyond 25.
It seems like staying power is the lost element.
Welcome back to Hyde Park London with MTV where we still haven't -- and never will -- figure out which one's Pink...
The Fool | Email | 07.02.05 - 6:45 pm | #
It's funny how much of that stuff you actually hear, even when you are a pretty minor, purely local act, playing mostly for the hell of it, in a town without much of a music scene.
he's what, 64 or so?
Something like that. But more importantly, does anyone still need him, or still feed him?
Reunited Floyd was spectacular. "Wish You Were here" brought tears to my eyes.
Koresh Almighty, I hope the Awareness is raised to the point where the G8/IMF/World Back... Economic Hitmen are put out of business.
So far, sadly, I've seen too much great rock and roll, and very little speaking out.
Here's to hoping.
Tony B.
Fcuk yes, 'Drive My Car".
Hey, can anybody help me with this..? My Brother is a RWer who listens to Rush and Fox, voted for Bush but has real Woodstock posters, Joplin and Hendrix photos, original summer-of-love posters, etc all over his house walls. I've been writing in my mind for a long time now some way of damning these hypocrites to hell. How in the hell can you be a Bush lover and be a rock and roll fan? How can you forget everything rock and roll stands for? Any eloquent eschatonians want to help?
thanks.
Stevie IS playing Superstition. Didn't someone call this?
any one remember the jazz bassist, Abraham laboriel from the 70's? his son plays drums for mcnartney (and brian Wilson) now.
kid's got chops.
Coldplay --
the Frampton Comes Alive of
the 21st century.
It seems like staying power is the lost element.
jdw | Email | 07.02.05 - 6:52 pm | #
==
We were having the same conversation back in the seventies. It's just gotten harder to see the way ahead.
Let me add that if God existed,
Marah would have been doing
this show in Philly.
mtv needs an instructional video on how to protest.
Why couldn't have been McCartney rather than Lennon that got shot?
Something like that. But more importantly, does anyone still need him, or still feed him?
Guess he'll have to scrimp and save...
is that NTodd signing with Paul?
No fucking way I could sing right now. I still sound like a Teenaged Wasteland...
...he's what, 64 or so?
Next year. Big fucking tour. Count on it!
Stevie IS playing Superstition. Didn't someone call this?
C'est moi.
"We were having the same conversation back in the seventies. It's just gotten harder to see the way ahead.
mena"
maybe so.
Shit.
E&P pulls down their article from a few hours ago, saying it was out of date.
The re-mentioning of the WHIG and what I took to be additional AF1 records had me going there. Plus, I'd have sworn it mentioned the GJ requests being on "Friday".
Story originally posted here was accurate but out-of-date and posted in error.
By E&P Staff
Published: June 29, 2005 2:35 PM ET
NEW YORK Story posted here for about an hour Saturday afternoon was accurate, but from 2004, and has been pulled from the site. We apologize.
E&P Staff (letters@editorandpublisher.com)
http://
www.editorandpublisher.co...t_id=1000972843
Sadly, you hear more of the WHO on a Saab commercial than MTV will allow you to hear.
Attaturk
And "The Doors of the 21st Century" will be playing at one of the AC casinos. I think it's the 3 surviving members of the original band. Anyone know anything about that?
BTW I guess I started a bit of a shitstorm over "nostalgia rock" (my term).
Oh and upthread..
To whoever said I "didn't have a soul"..you're wrong, I do have one and don't need your "pity". Thanks.
To whomever told me to "eff Off", I think your over reacting and rude. No thanks.
And why is nobody posting what The Cure set is?
No Rem!
.
4Legs--is Maxx still being skitty?
A little. He came out last night and watched movies with me, then slept with me all night.
He had breakfast, then went under the bed. Then he came out and sat in my lap for 20 minutes. Then freaked for no reason and is back under the bed.
I dunno.
Steve -
Kids in Philly - that would have been great.
Oh, well.
Maybe for Live25, they can 'reunite'
NTodd gets a pony for predicting 'Superstition.'
Philly show has ended.
How in the hell can you be a Bush lover and be a rock and roll fan? How can
you forget everything rock and roll stands for? Any eloquent eschatonians want
to help?
thanks.
mark | Email | 07.02.05 - 6:53 pm | #
See the late great Bill Hick's
routine about rockers against
drugs.
Philly show is over, eh?
- live 8 brought to you by proactiv.
NTodd gets a pony for predicting 'Superstition.'
Finally! I'm so happy. When can I ride it? When can I ride it?
The lost element? The lost element is what you might call musical "goodness". Band today suck compared to bands of 1965-1975. It's that simple no matter how much pissing and moaning this view inevitably elicits. There just aren't aren't any musicians on par with the Beatles, Stones, Dylan, the Dead etc etc etc.
It makes sense if you actually think about it. What cultural force exists to ensure that the level of achivement in popular music would be a constant? There is none. Popular music peaked in 1965-1975 and is on the course of inevitable decline.
By the way, which one's Pink?
to all the dipshits complaining about old bands playing old music...fuck off...the ability to enjoy
the music you like transends the moment...with any luck at all you may even be the same person you were long ago...unless you were always waiting to see what was cool by following whatever fad or hot new thing replaced the currrent fad in your little mind...
Anyone know anything about that?
Yeah, a couple of weeks ago the Doors of the 21st c were playing the House of Blues in Orlando. I believe their lead singer is the guy who use to be lead singer for The Cult (Ian Astbury, I think his name is). By the way, I've been reading you guys comments about the MTV coverage and it strikes me as being somewhat ironic. When the original Live Aid was broadcast, it was carried by commercial TV as well. I should say, it was SUPPOSED to be carried by commercial tv; what actually happened was, a band or performer would be introduced, start their set, then the network would cut away for endless commercials and public service announcements - pretty fucking bogus. I eventually was able to watch the entire Live Aid thing at a friend's house, who managed to tape the entire concert, uninterrupted from - you guessed it - MTV. We live in an age of irony, we do.
I'm sure the horn-rimmed execs at Floyd's label were banking that the "Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together In A Cave And Grooving With A Pict" cut off of the Ummmagumma album would compete head to head with Tom Jones's "It's Not Unusual" for the biggest money maker in the UK for 1968.
"...the Frampton Comes Alive of
the 21st century."
Frampton did some awesome guitar work when he was playing in "Humble Pie". Pity what he did to his career.
But still, yes, in any case they're the only ones to come around post 1980.
I disagree. There are lots of bands making quality music now, and much of it will carry to further generations. U2 and Green Day for sure, but those are the ones that are on the radio. Grateful Dead didn't have their first top 10 hit until the 90's. Like BlakNo1, Tool and Mars Volta come to mind. Tool has been around for 15 years, and they've had very few top 10 hit songs. It's the bands that produce quality albums, not songs, that have long-term success.
BTW, anyone who thinks Tool is another crap-metal group like Korn or Limp Bizkit needs a thorough slapping. Listen to it. By far the best group lyrically and musically since '91.
Is Atrios outside picking up all the crap the crowd left behind? Damn. That's a messy crowd.
Frampton did some awesome guitar work when he was playing in "Humble Pie". Pity what he did to his career.
Oh yass.
Stone Cold Fever
I Don't Need No Doctor.
and on and on.
Sadly, Stevie Marriott left us a while ago.
One rockin' little man.
All your selfish worthless rock stars are good for is sucking the shit stains out of rush limbaugh's underpants.
The broadcast SHOULD end with the insipid, ignorant, interrupting hosts being lined up and shot.
elvis beatle townshend
It's Townsend.
Pussy
AOL rocked Live-8!
And I got to see and hear the re-united a-ha. Love them madly.
It's Townshend, with an "h".
Since the 80s, FM radio has sliced and diced up music into sorta-digestible pieces. We were talking about the Cream reunion gigs a few weeks back...
And I see that ABC is doing a highlights show. That might explain why MTV fucked up its broadcast so much: can't spoil it for the prime-time broadcaster...
Is anyone really so slow-witted as to think that it's the MTV Vee-jays who decide when they're going to cut into a live performance? The suit points a finger and they start their usual banter.
So far ABC's coverage is far better than MTV's. A minimum of chatter, and more music.
Of course it's only on for 2 hours.
And it warms my heart to read nice comments about U2. They are the band that has best lasted and endured above all the groups that came out in the early-mid 80's. I also associate them with good times with friends through the years. And their Brooklyn concert on Nov. 22 of last year healed my heart after, well, you know...
I'm about to see Jack O. and the Tearjerkers live, in a crowded brewepub. They are the new band of Jack Oblivian, of the Oblivians fame.
All this talk of dinosaurs (and yes, I was into U2 back when they were the new band in the midst of dinosaurs) makes me want to rant a bit... But I'll just suggest, go to your local club, see a band that has never been on the radio.
ABC showed the last two-thirds of "Who Are You" -- and they didn't bleep out Daltrey's "Who the fuck are you?!?", either.
I wonder if the big headline in tomorrow's papers will be "F-Word Costs ABC Big Bux"?
yea, but the who looking old isn't like the stones looking ole. the stones were all about sex, while the who weren't. now the stones are all about rather creepy sex.
Zombie sex.
Live bait, actually.
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pink floyd was great, for the first time that I can remember, I can say that I've seen them play as a complete band, not just "the pink floyd experience".
waters seemed downright giddy. wonder if they'll take it any further, or if this was just one off.
it did suck that I was forced to jump away from the Cure in order to catch Pink Floyd---but we're talking Waters' Floyd here, never thought I'd see it.
did someone already mention the Geldof connection, "Pink" himself?
Here in Canada, CTV covered the entire Live8 with minimal interruptions - it was sponsored by ROGERS Cable.
"Why couldn't have been McCartney rather than Lennon that got shot?
bruce from chicago | 07.02.05 - 6:54 pm | #"
Get fucked.
"I wish was there ..."
Atrios, referring to David Gilmour sez ... " dave's a wanker ..."
Wah?!? In what regard? Care to elaborate on how you came up with this "brilliant" conclusion?
and to Agent Orange ... man, do I feel sorry for you.
My collection ranges from old 78s of Big Bill Broonzy to newer groups like Perfect Circle and White Pony.
I've got vinyl and reel to reel, DVDs and CDs. Music feeds my soul.
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