I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
wheee....!!!!!!!!!!!
Pink Floyd Live 8 Download
Be gentle on my bandwith
the way live 8 isbeing chopped up wiht ads and nitwits, I am not a happy rock and roll fan at the moment
think I"ll go load more tunes onto the hard drive for my honey's new iPod
happy 4th all. KKKarl what's that burning smell? is that you on the grill?
YAY! More room for me to blather and prattle on!
WoooooHooooooo!!!!!
Happy weekend, bats of the twinkling moon. 
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These pipes (sheetz) are cleeeeeen!
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These pipes (sheetz) are cleeeeeen!
This is how a harem girl dances....
Please to direct me to the prattling. Thanks be to you!
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Damn It
I was just typing
FIRST
to say Clean Sheets.
But I checked first and There's NTodd:
Clean Sheets
Ubiquitous Bastard!
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These pipes (sheetz) are cleeeeeen!
Don't you mean ducts?
Paging Central Services...
Atrios,
thanks for all you do. You, and the folks here, especially, remind us all that we are Americans.
Ripley: This is how a harem girl dances....
Would she count as 1/70th of my virgin quota, or...
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Chimperor June 28:
"This Fourth of July, I ask you to find a way to thank the men and women defending our freedom -- by flying the flag"
Oh suckful choice. damn if I will fly the flag to show any kind of support for the war. Only Iraq vet I know personally calls his 11 mo. there "hell."
These pipes (sheetz) are cleeeeeen!
This is how a harem girl dances....
Ripley | Homepage | 07.02.05 - 9:10 pm | #
Wanna buy a monkey?
I assume nobody is liveblogging SciFi.
Over on CN we have Superman beating the crap outta Captain Atom...
Karl Rove: The Turd Blossom
Brought to you by The News Is Broken and ID Visuals.
Enjoy....
You know, now don't laugh...
I'm beginning to suspect that this administration might not be entirely on the up and up.
Weird, yeah. But I just have this suspicion.
Paging Central Services...
Yes?
Ubiquitous Bastard!
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
That's the advantage of having no life.
Don't make me pee on your Koran.
I'm beginning to suspect that this administration might not be entirely on the up and up.
Weird, yeah. But I just have this suspicion.
*wave flag lapel pin at*
Care to repeat that?
Shucks! I would be liveblogging Sci-Fi, meant to, but this is a perfect evening, we're grilling a steak, and it's all quiet and beautiful here outside in the country.
Wish I weren't a degenerate non-real American liberal so I could enjoy it authentically in Brooks-approved fashion.
Whit Heat is on AMC. Cagney's hearing how his mother's dead--flip-out to ensue.
The best part of this movie is how the undercover FBI guy commits so many crimes as part of the gang.
Any explanation for the cig-holders without cigs the FBI higher-ups are playing with? Some joke about Hoover?
Paging Central Services...
This has NOT been a recording...
Hi Moonbats! Rooooooovvvvve!!!!!
NTodd: This has NOT been a recording...
The white zone is for loading and unloading ONLY...
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NTodd,
what are we to prattle on about?
Let's see, Oh yeah, I cut successfull and accurate threads on the metal lathe today. 3/8 x 16, if you must know.
and I just found the 50 tooth gear so's I can now attack the 1/4 x 20 tpi.
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Kent,
I made 10 wooden rapiers last night on the jigsaw, if that helps.....
Shucks! I would be liveblogging Sci-Fi, meant to, but this is a perfect evening, we're grilling a steak, and it's all quiet and beautiful here outside in the country.
That, and this Saturday's "sci-fi" movie is Hannibal...
Chimperor June 28:
"This Fourth of July, I ask you to find a way to thank the men and women defending our freedom -- by flying the flag"
Mr. Bush, Sheboygan, WI has heard your call!
America's Largest Flag
I'm beginning to suspect that this administration might not be entirely on the up and up.
Weird, yeah. But I just have this suspicion.
funny that, i'm damned near convinced.
WAR CRIMINALS! and that's just for starters.
Let's see, Oh yeah, I cut successfull and accurate threads on the metal lathe today. 3/8 x 16, if you must know.
and I just found the 50 tooth gear so's I can now attack the 1/4 x 20 tpi.
This new learning amazes me, Sir Bedevere.
White Heat is on AMC.
Top of the world!
Damn it's HOT here!
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Where's te fantabulous Sallyh?
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Plame leak stuff breaking wide open like a ripe melon, and FoxNews going absolutely apeshit over...yes, SHARK ATTACKS! Fab! And, throw in the requisite Aruba coverage, and there you have the "heartland" news priorities for the weekend!
NYMary, are you doing the salad?...
I made 10 wooden rapiers last night on the jigsaw, if that helps.....
Were they mother rapiers or father rapiers?
I cut successfull and accurate threads on the metal lathe today. 3/8 x 16, if you must know.
Excellent! We need the best and most accurate threads possible for this here online magazine...
Yes?
Central Scrutinizer
evening CS, I presume you and the best buddy are well.
I have to say that so far the fifteen minutes that I have seen of "Troy" are a profound dissapointment.
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Bewitched, I'm sorry to report, is not a good movie. Although the Shabby Chic lady must be very very happy.
Kent,
Let me know when you cut a 3/8-24 and a 1/4-28 and *then* I'll be impressed.
...it's past time to watch "Brazil" again.
greetings sweaty lunks,
I turn my back on this blog for a few days and the next thing I know - there's tiny pictures sprouting all over like some sort of weed. What is all this (as the bishop said to the actress)?
I-Day greetings to the chief sweaty lunk and all denizens.
gnb
I made 10 wooden rapiers last night on the jigsaw, if that helps.....
No, that just leaves me with a terribly confused sensation of impending doom.
Or maybe it's the beer... regardless...
Any explanation for the cig-holders without cigs the FBI higher-ups are playing with? Some joke about Hoover?
Draco
They're tying to quit Smoking?
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And I just ordered a 13X19 portfolio, so I'll actually have something to put the giant prints *in*...
*wave flag lapel pin at*
Care to repeat that?
NNOOOOO!!!!! IT BURNS!!!!!
(Melting, in liberal fashion)
Tell... Osama... and Saddam... I tried...
congrats, kent...soon you'll be making bolts you can buy for .02 ! Just kidding.
"you fuck'n commie smokin' cigar dudes.
it's all marlboros and budweiser for this proud american.
why do i hang out wit you liberal elitists?'
hey I can do that also. back in the day it was goebel and camel non-filters....but they was killin me. Still do some chew, tho.
N: dug thru the humidor and found one with a band: Romeo Y Juliieta Churchill Habana.
Ya think it's good? yes indeeeeeed!
I have to say that so far the fifteen minutes that I have seen of "Troy" are a profound dissapointment.
You should try Troy In 15 Minutes.
Argh! Such a target rich thread. Do I go for the Holy Grail reference (maybe something about pig's bladders), or the more obscure LA Story gag (involving Terry Jones' voice, adding an extra layer of geek chic)? Fuck it.
I hope Rove goes straight to jail.
agave: Damn it's HOT here!
It's tolerable here in GnashVile, but I still am blogging sans shirt. Yes, it's embarrassing for you, but even moreso for me!
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Yes Kent, we're both well. Trout went to work with me today and managed to stay underfoot most of the day. He thought he was helping.
Kent, re: Troy, you need to watch the movie with a 15 year old daughter with high hormones, and then you will appreciate it for the beefcake movie it really is.
No, that just leaves me with a terribly confused sensation of impending doom.
Impending doom... OF DOOM!!!!
Let's see, Oh yeah, I cut successfull and accurate threads on the metal lathe today. 3/8 x 16, if you must know.
and I just found the 50 tooth gear so's I can now attack the 1/4 x 20 tpi.
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Kent™ Embigulator
Wouldn't be easier to buy the bolts or all-thread?
Just wonderin'
Kent™ Embigulator
Cool.
I cut that exact same thread in a class I took eons ago.
But I broke the 3/8" tap off in the mating part!
Had to turn it in like that.
Now I understand your ?s awhile back.
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And I just ordered a 13X19 portfolio, so I'll actually have something to put the giant prints *in*...
You and Kent, always with the sex talk...
It's tolerable here in GnashVile, but I still am blogging sans shirt. Yes, it's embarrassing for you, but even moreso for me!
I produced a podcast in my underwear. Wait, that came out wrong. I produced a podcast, wearing only my underwear.
Tried to produce one wearing somebody else's underwear but the cops showed up and ruined a perfectly good take. Ahhh, life in the burbs....
I made 10 wooden rapiers last night on the jigsaw, if that helps.....
No, that just leaves me with a terribly confused sensation of impending doom.
Or maybe it's the beer... regardless...
Relax, Rip. Making props for the
Pirates of Penzance.
I made 10 wooden rapiers last night on the jigsaw, if that helps.....
Rapiers, just what I need.
NYMary, what exactly, are these rapiers that you speak?
Jigsaws rock better than Navy seals though......
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Wouldn't be easier to buy the bolts or all-thread?
Where's the fun in that?
I hope Rove goes straight to jail.
and that'll be only a first stop enroute to Gehenna.
And I just ordered a 13X19 portfolio, so I'll actually have something to put the giant prints *in*...
Schaweet!
dug thru the humidor and found one with a band: Romeo Y Juliieta Churchill Habana.
Mmm...gotta get me a humidor. But that would just encourage me to smoke.
I live in Darien, Connecicut among more millionaires than you can shake a stick at. About three blocks away, there's one who evaded the Vietnam war, who's been twice charged with income tax evasion, was indicted a year ago in a stock fraud case and who is known around here as Bush's most generous contributor.
As we get ready to acknowledge July 4th and all the trimmings as appreciation of the country's traditions, guess in which acre of a front yard down the street you'd see the biggest American flag.
"Wouldn't be easier to buy the bolts or all-thread?
Just wonderin'
Agent Orange"
That was my point. But these guys and their hobby lathes...
I produced a podcast in my underwear. Wait, that came out wrong. I produced a podcast, wearing only my underwear.
Do you know how the elephant got in your pajamas?
And, throw in the requisite Aruba coverage, and there you have the "heartland" news priorities for the weekend!
they did find that girl, was it idaho? glad to hear about that. but...
i most assuredly do not believe in the death penalty, but...
unless this rove/plame thing can crack this corrupt evil amdmin. open we should get used to it, as i imagine many will be meeting with the electrodes. for far less egregious crimes.
Btw, Thers, I intended to e-mail you about your laptop. I haven't heard any similar complaints but I'm not sure anyone else tried to listen to the podcast.
"The white zone is for loading and unloading ONLY..."
Captain Over to the white courtesy phone, please.
"Wouldn't be easier to buy the bolts or all-thread?
Just wonderin'
Agent Orange"
That was my point. But these guys and their hobby lathes...
Some people just really need to get lathed.
Impending doom... OF DOOM!!!!
Yooooo'ure DOOOOOOOMED!
(obscure movie reference)
I hope Rove goes straight to jail.
In the game of Monopoly?
Well, it could happen.
Some people just really need to get lathed.
Better lathe than never.
Relax, Rip. Making props for the
Pirates of Penzance.
Couldn't they just steal their own? What kind of lameass pirates are they, anyway?
NYMary: Y'all must have a pretty sweet budget and cast to do PoP!
Sounds like fun.
still am blogging sans shirt. Yes, it's embarrassing for you, but even moreso for me!
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Jeffraham Prestonian
Not me, Just sweat pants.
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I produced a podcast in my underwear. Wait, that came out wrong. I produced a podcast, wearing only my underwear.
Yeah, that was a real turn on.
There was a late night movie on AMC the other night called Graveyard Shift. It featured a giant man-eating rat and hindreds of little ones. Are you kicking yourself for missing it?
White Heat update: "Cody's been hearing rumors that his mother got it in the back."
Relax, Rip. Making props for the
Pirates of Penzance.
Yo, shout out to my Pirates of Penzizzle! Mad props, yo! Pirates representin' in the hizzous!
(or, worse, jodhpursperation...)
Yooooo'ure DOOOOOOOMED!
Thank you.
Agave, you sweat pants??? Regular pants, or is it, like, caprisperation?
"Wouldn't be easier to buy the bolts or all-thread?
Just wonderin'
Agent Orange"
That was my point. But these guys and their hobby lathes...
jdw |
And what type of head are we planning and do we have the machine to do it?
Mmm...gotta get me a humidor. But that would just encourage me to smoke."
actually, it does the opposite. Since ya know they'll keep ok, they tend to pile up.
"Some people just really need to get lathed."
The torture never stops
This new learning amazes me, Sir Bedevere.
There seems to still be space in various cavities in the brain that yearns for filling.
Let me know when you cut a 3/8-24 and a 1/4-28 and *then* I'll be impressed.
Esteemed sir, I may very well have pictures of both for you tomorrow.
excelllent....... I have a project!
/burns hands
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Good lord, my follow-up comment travelled backwards in time...
Bush can get away with anything except putting Roe v Wade in jeopardy. Fuck the war, torture, decimating the Bill of Rights; it takes the fight over abortion to get people into the streets.
Hey, I'm back. I don't know who's cutting threads on a metal lathe, but wouldn't it be easier to just use a tap or die?
Do you know how the elephant got in your pajamas?
The same way he got out... one o' them there ninja pajama elephants... heh!
What rough beast
it's hour come at last
slouches towards Leavonworth?
why...IT'S KARL ROVE!
(if the left can hold)
I intended to e-mail you about your laptop. I haven't heard any similar complaints but I'm not sure anyone else tried to listen to the podcast.
Woops, sorry, mant to tell you --that was just a concidence. Another problem cropped up halfway through the 'cast and was unrelated. I called Toshiba customer support, got put on hold, and then solved the problem myself...
Sorry for casting asparagus.
Ripley: Btw, Thers, I intended to e-mail you about your laptop. I haven't heard any similar complaints but I'm not sure anyone else tried to listen to the podcast.
Pshaw! I listen to your every podcast, eventually -- check your logs!
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There was a late night movie on AMC the other night called Graveyard Shift. It featured a giant man-eating rat and hindreds of little ones. Are you kicking yourself for missing it?
Oh yes, a classic King adaptation (i.e., it sucked ass). Dude who was the main character played Frank Borman years later on HBO's From The Earth to the Moon. Had a guest stint on CSI, too, amongst other things.
Let me know when you cut a 3/8-24 and a 1/4-28 and *then* I'll be impressed.
Esteemed sir, I may very well have pictures of both for you tomorrow.
excelllent....... I have a project!
/burns hands
I need a left hand bastard size metric. Can you do it?
Nate, thank you so much for the Floyd! I'm enjoying it so much.
Good lord, my follow-up comment travelled backwards in time...
HaloScan has been updated to prove Einstein's theories of space-time.
Wouldn't be easier to buy the bolts or all-thread?
Just wonderin'
Agent Orange
Seriously?
For instance a lens mount, with a treaded counter bored hole for the lens. The lens is held in by a treaded ring.
Hardware Store no help.
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I hope Rove goes straight to jail.
What I learned watching the Iran Contra hearings in high-school.
The media can make something out of nothing and nothing out of something.
Watergate was a big deal. Because the American people were sick of Nixon and Vietnam, the media covered it. The American people cared about it, and Congress forced Nixon out of office.
Iran Contra was a big deal. The American people liked Reagan and didn't want to believe the worst about him, so the media didn't cover it and Congress (including Joe Biden) went easy on him. I still remember the talking heads gushing over the "dashing Oliver North". Nobody gushed about the "square jawed steely HR Haldeman".
This will be somewhere in the middle:
1.) The media is even more pro-Bush than it was pro-Reagan.
2.) Bush is not popular but people still equate criticizing him with criticizing America and with being pro-terrorist.
3.) Unlike during Iran Contra, there's a war going on and people are being killed.
So most likely (even if the Rove connection is true) it's going to be more like Iran Contra than Watergate. There's a slight chance it could be like Watergate, but for the most part, the American people aren't ready to see Bush humiliated.
"And what type of head are we planning and do we have the machine to do it?"
The project provides the excuse to buy the necessary machinery. As for the head, we shall consult the machinist's handbook and see what's kosher..
Some people just really need to get lathed.
Oh, ouch.
HaloScan has been updated to prove Einstein's theories of space-time.
My typing's pretty fast, but it does not exceed the speed of light.
Mmm...gotta get me a humidor. But that would just encourage me to smoke."
Well, keep in mind that it's not the heat, it's the humidority.
Suppose you are a movie adaptation of a Stephen King novel. Suppose you suck ass. But I repeat myself.
happy 4th to all...
Good lord, my follow-up comment travelled backwards in time...
Everything's different since 9/11.
treaded = threaded
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I called Toshiba customer support,
"Dear lord, why are you listening to Him?!? If you promise never to visit that site again, we'll tell you the key to fixing your computer. Promise, now..."
I need a left hand bastard size metric. Can you do it?
In grade 8? 304 or 316 stainless?
Thersites: Woops, sorry, mant to tell you --that was just a concidence. Another problem cropped up halfway through the 'cast and was unrelated. I called Toshiba customer support, got put on hold, and then solved the problem myself...
Next time, call me instead (if you can wait until 10 p.m. ET, that is). Me and Toshi-San (my 1.5GHz Celeron Toshiba laptop) have been getting along for years, even after deleting all the useless "help" HTML.
Then again, I'm a geek.
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There's a slight chance it could be like Watergate, but for the most part, the American people aren't ready to see Bush humiliated.
Hilarious.
Fuck off.
check your logs!
Sign at the Lumberman's Social Club?
Hehehe... I was checking the logs but I'm so tired of seeing inktomisearch.com in there... yeesh...
Hey, I'm back. I don't know who's cutting threads on a metal lathe, but wouldn't it be easier to just use a tap or die?"
Yes, in a lot of cases. But that would mean there's no reason to buy the lathe, and buy it we must!
My typing's pretty fast, but it does not exceed the speed of light.
Yes, but if HaloScan's servers are near an intense gravity well...
Well, keep in mind that it's not the heat, it's the humidority.
Aren't you s'posed to be grilling?
I need a left hand bastard size metric. Can you do it?
Good Question.
diameter and pitch length and any other attributes. But I'll have to put it in the queue.
When I cross my rubicon, the Acme Thread, I'll look into the left hand bastard.
caprisperation?
Howd u know?
Too damn short!
But I have cool ankles.
(maybe even a little shocking)
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"....the American people aren't ready to see Bush humiliated."
Oh, but I soooooo am ready for that. And my birthday is only about a month away.
Yes, but if HaloScan's servers are near an intense gravity well...
Baby Jessica's comments are in for a little deja vu...
Yew..and..yowr..daugh..ter are........DUMED!!!
[/valeria]
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"....the American people aren't ready to see Bush humiliated."
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The fuck they're not.
Seriously?
For instance a lens mount, with a treaded counter bored hole for the lens. The lens is held in by a treaded ring.
Hardware Store no help.
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agave
You'll have to go a lot finer than 16 tpi (Threads per inch) for an optical retaining ring.
Don't know your exact application but that sort of stuff is available commercially.
"....the American people aren't ready to see Bush humiliated."
Kinda late for that...he's been humiliating himself for decades.
These pipes are cleeeeeen!
Greatest. Movie. Ever.
Bush can get away with anything except putting Roe v Wade in jeopardy.
CBS news tonight had two or three interviewees as well as the reporter commenting that Supreme Court nominees move to the left not the right once they're appointed. It seemed like a coordinated message to me--"don't worry, the nominee will no longer be a right wing nut once he or she is confirmed...honest...we're not lying...really."
"I need a left hand bastard size metric. Can you do it?"
Hmmm...made me think. To do a LH thread on a lathe...how ya do that?
White Heat is on AMC.
No, it's on TCM.
Like my friend Deep Throat I do so hate inexactitude.
Otherwise, all cold-blooded killers should have the verisimilitude of Cody Jarrett.
There's a slight chance it could be like Watergate, but for the most part, the American people aren't ready to see Bush humiliated.
Yet 42% of Americans are willing to impeach the bastard for lying about the war. The worm is turning.
Oh, but I soooooo am ready for that. And my birthday is only about a month away.
A lot of us are. And most people don't "like" Bush.
But they're still not ready to bring down a president when there's a war going on. By 1973, people were so sick of Vietnam, they were ready to see anything happen, and even then at least half the American people considered saying nasty things about the president as out of bounds.
It's *possible* that Bush will throw Rove overboard but if he backs Bush than it doesn't matter if Rove was the leaker or not.
Or actually probably more like: "We have to nominate a nut so that when he or she drifts left we'll have a moderate."
Speaking of grilling, someone's cooking up a nice batch of thick, juicy lighter fluid around here.... Mmmmmm, the burbs...
Yet 42% of Americans are willing to impeach the bastard for lying about the war. The worm is turning.
I guess I'm still a little mystified on how this is really a good thing. Shouldn't *everybody* think lying us into a war is an impeachable offense?
It's *possible* that Bush will throw Rove overboard but if he backs Bush than it doesn't matter if Rove was the leaker or not.
Is that the latest talking point?
Lame.
George Bush is a Fancy Lad.
George Bush is a Fancy Lad.
Man, how I hate those Fancy Lads.
Eli: I guess I'm still a little mystified on how this is really a good thing. Shouldn't *everybody* think lying us into a war is an impeachable offense?
Indeed.
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Eeeewww...enough about Rove and "leaking".
Eli,
Seems to me that if they think the lies are justified by the outcome, then impeachment's not exactly their next step. 
Yet 42% of Americans are willing to impeach the bastard for lying about the war. The worm is turning.
Answering a question in a poll and the willingness to see a protracted investigation leading to impeachment are different.
Impeaching Clinton wasn't popular. But people tolerated it because it was a diversion and the poltically climate was boring. People were complacent.
All Bush has to cover Rove is to crank up the war rhetoric a bit.
Anyway, the thing I'm trying to get across is that it doesn't matter if Rove did it or not. When people are ready to see Bush go, his administration has enough holes in it that the media will just chose something and make it stick.
This is a distraction.
I guess I'm still a little mystified on how this is really a good thing. Shouldn't *everybody* think lying us into a war is an impeachable offense?
Yes, but a lot of people are clueless. If 42% are behind the idea even though there's a war on and the GOP dominates the government and the media still doesn't quite have balls and the Dems are only discovering a spine, well that shows just what will happen when the rest of the truth bursts out.
Shouldn't *everybody* think lying us into a war is an impeachable offense?
Remember Iran-Contra? Conservatives turned an assault on the se[peration of powers into a patriotic act.
And Cappy... I shall miss you most of all...
When I cross my rubicon, the Acme Thread, I'll look into the left hand bastard.
Kent™ Embigulator
And don't forget to check if you need one start, two start or four start on the Acme thread.
All Bush has to cover Rove is to crank up the war rhetoric a bit.
After his sorry-ass presentation Tuesday that's gonna be tough to accomplish.
George Bush is a Fancy Lad.
A eunuch used to be the life of the party.
This one's the death of one.
patriotboy,
Well normal people may drift to the left as they age, but not nutcases such as Thomas or Scalia. And I guarantee you, we're going to get a nutcase.
SWR | 07.02.05 - 9:31 pm | #
i think that nails it pretty well.
of course, somehow i hope you are wrong.
because reagans crimes were worse than nixon's, and i don't even know where to begin with the evil bastards who now occupy the white house.
I guess I'm still a little mystified on how this is really a good thing. Shouldn't *everybody* think lying us into a war is an impeachable offense?
Eli
Wow, you and me both. I really don't get that at all. Especially with over 1700 soldiers killed and thousands injured.
Remember Iran-Contra? Conservatives turned an assault on the se[peration of powers into a patriotic act.
And the media turned into the Oliver North fanclub.
Shouldn't *everybody* think lying us into a war is an impeachable offense?
I've met people that say "We should have took that fucker out the first time". (Poppy)
Like they ever gave a fuck or had ever even heard of Kuwait before the first Iraq war.
UK aid funds Iraqi torture units
British and American aid intended for Iraq's hard-pressed police service is being diverted to paramilitary commando units accused of widespread human rights abuses, including torture and extra-judicial killings, The Observer can reveal.
http://tinyurl.com/aa2ly
Revealed: grim world of new Iraqi torture camps
An arm appears to have been broken and one of the higher vertebrae is pushed inwards. There is a cluster of small, neat circular wounds on both sides of his left knee. At some stage an-Ni'ami seems to have been efficiently knee-capped. It was not done with a gun - the exit wounds are identical in size to the entry wounds, which would not happen with a bullet. Instead it appears to have been done with something like a drill.
http://tinyurl.com/cmgce
Anyway, the thing I'm trying to get across
heh.
"I guess I'm still a little mystified on how this is really a good thing. Shouldn't *everybody* think lying us into a war is an impeachable offense?"
Eli
"Wow, you and me both. I really don't get that at all. Especially with over 1700 soldiers killed and thousands injured."
It's in the name of freedom and spreading democracy. People who believe that apparently think it's ok to sacrifice lives for what they believe, or have been convinced of.
I love sitting up here, looking at those bright, twinkly things in the sky, I forget their technical name.
NTodd--the two leads to Graveyard Shift were David Andrews and Stephen Macht. Do't know which of these was the hotshot you meant. But how the heck did they ever get Brad Dourif for this movie?!?!
AMG All Movie Guide is a good resource, generally preferable to imdb.vom
Shouldn't *everybody* think lying us into a war is an impeachable offense?
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*Everybody* is in the process of realizing (something like) the truth. Some never will.
Like they ever gave a fuck or had ever even heard of Kuwait before the first Iraq war.
Yeah, how's that whole "freedom marching" thing going there? Weren't they going to become a nice democracy after we rescued them?
Watergate was a big deal. Because the American people were sick of Nixon and Vietnam, the media covered it. The American people cared about it, and Congress forced Nixon out of office.
Not for a loooong time. The story was out there even during the election.
Plame is a better parallel to WG than Iran-Contra or Whitewater/impeachment. Those looked partisan. WG when it finally did looked just plain awful.
George Bush is a Fancy Lad.
Bet he can't make fishstick kitties.
I love sitting up here, looking at those bright, twinkly things in the sky, I forget their technical name.
Celebrities.
i think that nails it pretty well.
of course, somehow i hope you are wrong.
because reagans crimes were worse than nixon's, and i don't even know where to begin with the evil bastards who now occupy the white house.
charley almost ballistic | Email | Homepage | 07.02.05 - 9:42 pm | #
The fact that we're phrasing the question as "wow. This might happen. I hope it might happen" means it won't happen.
But I will admit that this is starting to resemble the 1990s a bit. The right threw so much at Clinton, eventually something stuck to him and it wounded Gore.
Bush is being attacked for more relentlessly than Reagan ever was. He has far more enemies than Reagan did.
But you have to say "Rove is guilty. We're going to make him pay" not "well gee if the media is any good they'll hold Rove accountable."
The media won't. I still can't believe people are under any illusions about this.
Wouldn't be easier to buy the bolts or all-thread?
Just wonderin'
AE,
Not for the part I needed to add a handle to the leadscrew. Make no doubt that if what i need exists at the HW store, I'm there in a heart beat.
Agave,
nice memory, and I see the fog has lifted.
to be perfectly honest, I pushed a tap just to the edge today. I fear that another newton/meter would have resulted in carnage.
Some people just really need to get lathed.
But lathered up beforehand, for purposes of lubrication dirtymind you.
I think a 60" faceplate could handle a Rove.
.
annon II,
Now I'm sick to my stomach.
Someone tell me again how we got rid of the rape rooms.
"I guess I'm still a little mystified on how this is really a good thing. Shouldn't *everybody* think lying us into a war is an impeachable offense?
Eli
Wow, you and me both. I really don't get that at all. Especially with over 1700 soldiers killed and thousands injured.
Diane"
Anyone know what percentage of people still believe Saddam was involved in 9/11? I do think people are starting to wake up a little. And I agree that it is disturbing that it has taken this long to start. I, however, will be pleased with any progress being made. It's that or learning Romanian.
NTodd, was I supposed to be grilling?
You'll have to go a lot finer than 16 tpi (Threads per inch) for an optical retaining ring.
Don't know your exact application but that sort of stuff is available commercially.
Agent Orange
Sure.
More like 32.
For adjustment screws 100!
All kinds of stuff for breadboarding, but custom designed stuff, you just can't buy it.
What are you trying to do, put me outta a job.
.
the bastards cut Gilmour off in mid "Money". that's the last straw.
NTodd, was I supposed to be grilling?
Thersites
Shit,
Now we're all going hungry!
.
I love sitting up here, looking at those bright, twinkly things in the sky, I forget their technical name.
"holes in the crystal shell surrounding the flat earth".
Mr. deja is taking the new BBQ for a shakedown cruise. Wish us luck as we possibly sacrifice a tri-tip. Where is Ba'al these days? The aroma should be most pleasing. The Chateau Souverain cab we picked up at Trader Joe's is also most pleasing...
Hey, I'm back. I don't know who's cutting threads on a metal lathe, but wouldn't it be easier to just use a tap or die?"
Yes, in a lot of cases. But that would mean there's no reason to buy the lathe, and buy it we must!
jdw |
Well let me be the first to say it. This is an OPEN THREAD you know!
But you have to say "Rove is guilty. We're going to make him pay" not "well gee if the media is any good they'll hold Rove accountable."
The media won't.
Fitzgerald might.
"holes in the crystal shell surrounding the flat earth".
Pere Ubu | Email | Homepage | 07.02.05 - 9:48 pm | #
whatever...
"I love sitting up here, looking at those bright, twinkly things in the sky, I forget their technical name."
I believe the new faith-based term is God's little lanterns
Wow, you and me both. I really don't get that at all. Especially with over 1700 soldiers killed and thousands injured.
Diane"
Whatever happend to that Harrison Ford movie about Fallujah? Did they scuttle it because they don't want to address the Iraq war directly?
I just say an ad for a POW MIA rescue movie called "The Great Raid".
Looks like classic right wing propaganda. Benjamin Bratt says (during the trailer). "You don't just get freedom. You've got to pay for it."
(Freedom isn't free)
But it's about World War II.
getting rid of rape rooms is easy if you're GWB:
just redefine rape. There - no more rape rooms.
NTodd--the two leads to Graveyard Shift were David Andrews and Stephen Macht. Do't know which of these was the hotshot you meant.
David Andrews. He was also Claire Danes' dad in T3.
But how the heck did they ever get Brad Dourif for this movie?!?!
Are you kidding? He loves to be in schlock and scary stuff. Grim Prairie Tales. Exorcist III. Blue Velvet. Dune. This was a perfect fit for him.
Hmmm...made me think. To do a LH thread on a lathe...how ya do that?
Pull the plug, flip it over and re-insert? Or stand on the other side of the lathe?
No True Glory: The Battle for Fallujah is still in development hell at Universal.
NTodd, was I supposed to be grilling?
Duh. I ordered my steak medium rare.
The media won't.
Fitzgerald might.
Thersites | Email | Homepage | 07.02.05 - 9:49 pm | #
Do you know anything about him?
Good evening, you cool kats & kittens. I was watching a couple of Joseph Campbell dvds this afternoon and he posed a very important question: are you the vehicle for light or are you the light? I thought it was very interesting. I could be wrong (wouldn't be the first time.) So, what did I miss?
Hmmm...made me think. To do a LH thread on a lathe...how ya do that?
jdw | Email | 07.02.05 - 9:49 pm | #
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Silly. You turn the lathe upside down.
CBS news tonight had two or three interviewees as well as the reporter commenting that Supreme Court nominees move to the left not the right once they're appointed. It seemed like a coordinated message to me--"don't worry, the nominee will no longer be a right wing nut once he or she is confirmed...honest...we're not lying...really."
OMG. Well, have no fear. Dear Leader will nominate someone so crazy right wing that Nothing, but nothing will appear even moderate about him/her.
But how the heck did they ever get Brad Dourif for this movie?!?!
Don't forget Chucky.
Hey, I'm back. I don't know who's cutting threads on a metal lathe, but wouldn't it be easier to just use a tap or die?
Yes. In some instances. But in the event you need a special case thread, a 2 dollar bit ground into sixty degree point is a whole lot cheaper than the die you may not have on hand.
'Specially if you enjoy the process.
.
This is from a commenter elsewhere, so I can't vouch for its accuracy:
"the seatle times is reporting that Rove talked but did not leak."
I also read that somewhere else. Is anyone up on the latest?
"This is an OPEN THREAD you know!"
ha!
Monica A,
Are you the leaf, the blossom, or the bole? How can we know the dancer from the dance?
So, what did I miss?
Apparently, MTV has no clue about classic music, NTodd has a stalker, Cabin Boy is universally loved, don't make your own camera parts, Bush maintains his mantle of worthlessness and Rove is going to the hooskow.
Oh, and we like wine and cigars but we hate America. or something, I drifted in and out...
No True Glory: The Battle for Fallujah is still in development hell at Universal.
This movie looks like right wing propaganda.
I saw the trailer while I was watching "We were soldiers".
What we need now is a good rescued American soldier story out of Afghanistan.
It's funny but the one thing the brilliant Rove propaganda machine isn't doing well right now is putting the American military in a good light.
It would be *much more effective* to put stories out about how great the American soldiers are than to bash liberals for not doing it.
The Jessica Lynch propaganda campaign was ludicrous. But it was in the right direction. I'm surprised Rove isn't doing more of this.
wouldn't it be easier to just use a tap or die?
Dying seems to be a pretty extreme alternative to using a tap...
Hecate,
I don't know. I guess that's why I thought it was a good question. I want to be the bole, but sometimes I just want to be the blossom and look pretty. What do you consider yourself to be?
CBS news tonight had two or three interviewees as well as the reporter commenting that Supreme Court nominees move to the left not the right once they're appointed.
I wonder if they're the same dickweeds who told us back in 2000 that Drinky Dubya was going to have to govern from the center, 'cause he had a divided Congress.
Duh. I ordered my steak medium rare.
Oh, an aristocrat...
Ripley
Wonderful summary - somebody (and that would be you) should do that every thread.
"Silly. You turn the lathe upside down.
mena"
God! Gotta get my head outta my ASS!
OT: Whichever marketing wizard decided it would be a good idea to make Trimspa a sponsor for the Live 8 concerts either has a black sense of humour, or deserves to be shot.
"the seatle times is reporting that Rove talked but did not leak."
The definition of is is?
"the seatle times is reporting that Rove talked but did not leak."
"The definition of is is?"
That's exactly what the commenter said after they posted the previous quote...perfect. It should be a fun 4th.
Watergate was a big deal.
Then why did Holbrook/Bradley protest near the end of 'All the President's Men,' 'no one gives a shit.'
It took a year for it to get going and even then in newsrooms all over the country you could constantly hear, "I'm so sick of that story." At least half the country was with Nixon almost all the way.
More cartoons for the holiday weekend!
Blogwhoring again...but funny stuff, I hope..
"wouldn't it be easier to just use a tap or die?
Dying seems to be a pretty extreme alternative to using a tap..."
Depends on the severity of the thirst.
This is a low blow to stock car fans Rummy is going to be grand marshal for the Fire Cracker 400 at Daytona
Monica A,
I think I want to be the body trained to music and the brightening glance.
But I think the answer to Campbell's question is: Yes.
Shut up, NTodd.
The media won't. I still can't believe people are under any illusions about this.
SWR
i assure you, i'm under no illusion about it.
fact, rove goes overboard, case closed.
it is interesting to note that many of the criminals from iran/contra have or are currently working in this administration.
i'm just saying really bad shit is going on. but we already knew that.
the big concern for me is the same concern it is for the righties. that is that we could be attacked again. this admins. greed and incompetence is likely to get us all killed. of course the righties don't see it that way. REVENGE, at all costs.
Greetings, bats of moon!
I was away making you a fresh cherry pie. (Yes, I finally got all those suckers pitted, not to mention the special trip for the leaf lard.)
Is anyone buying, or do I have to get my own drink?
wouldn't it be easier to just use a tap or die?
Dying seems to be a pretty extreme alternative to using a tap...
Tap handlers... the forgotten sect of Xianity. (or)
Not when the government is putting that Commie fluoride in your water. Live fluoride-free or die !
"...that Supreme Court nominees move to the left not the right once they're appointed..."
You're a sweethear, but tell that to Frankfurter and White.
Hmmm...made me think. To do a LH thread on a lathe...how ya do that?
I am 15 or 20 mins hopelessly behind, but the answer to your question is reversing the travel of the lathe and cutting from left to right.
I was thinking about doing that tomorrow (left hand) but have not yet made me a internal threading bar.
.
Check out Mo-Jo for a report on Sanders' run:
http://tinyurl.com/9nuom
Sallyh,
I'd love to buy you a drink. Name your poison.
Rummy is going to be grand marshal for the Fire Cracker 400 at Daytona
oh good, another reason not to give a rat's ass about NASCAR.
Yes, in a lot of cases. But that would mean there's no reason to buy the lathe, and buy it we must!
jdw |
Well let me be the first to say it. This is an OPEN THREAD you know!
Agent Orange
Jeez.
Companies and people that work for themselves have machine shops or such equipment, or contract it out.
The idea that every part of a new product or a home project even, can be bought off the shelf is.....
.
Wow! I missed a lot. Is NTodd's stalker online? If so, it could be Toby. I enjoyed Cabin Boy as well and I'm not surprised about MTV's lack of music history (they don't play enough off it to have any knowledge of it.) I believe you can love wine, cigars and America too. If Karl is caught, will he turn into a witness for the impeachment trials?
But I think the answer to Campbell's question is: Yes.
Agreed!
NTodd--I was joking about Dourif--I know he's a "working actor" who'll do anything. Beware Michael Caine and Christopher Walken--this could be you, and rather is.
Movie trivia; Michael Cains couldn't be in Hollywood to accept his Hannah and Her Sisters Oscar because he was in the Bahamas filming...
Jaws 4.
Was that Rove was singing like a birdie? That rat bastard can't beat his bad Karma forever you know. I don't know how he sleeps at night or why his GOD doesn't stike him with a lightening bolt.
NTodd,
Will you be building a bridge for your personal troll to live under?
"Gravatar Watergate was a big deal.'
Yes, it was. But whenever I see the word Watergate anymore, I read it as watertiger, and that's a very big deal.
I was away making you a fresh cherry pie.
Evening, Sallyh.
I hope you have better cherries than the ones I just finished: bland, neither sweet nor tart. Like eating red mush.
So, George Bush, Karl Rove, Condi Rice, and Jeff Gannon go into a talent scout's office.
"Whaddya got?" says the talent scout chomping on a ten-dollar cigar.
"Oh, nothing. Just the Greatest Act Ever Seen By Man, is all", says Bush.
"Let's see it". And as the talent scout leans back in his chair, the four begin their act . . .
[yada- yada - yada]
"That's a helluva act" cries the talent scout. "whaddya call it?"
"The Aristocrats!"
If Karl is caught, will he turn into a witness for the impeachment trials?
"I couldn't have had that conversation and leaked any information. I was with Jeff Ga..errr.. Jeff Garner, my... insurance agent, yeah... next question?"
I was thinking about doing that tomorrow (left hand) but have not yet made me a internal threading bar."
just a boring bar ground to 60, or one with a 60 insert?
As for the LHT...hmm, I don't think I can reverse the travel on my leadscrew without reversing the chuck direction, which would mean mounting the tool on the other side of the part....
Draco,
Are you serious about Jaws 4 and M. Cain? I neve knew there was a Jaws 3. Ha!
Diane--I have a farm a mile from my house, and they get awesome ones.
BTW, at TJs, they have Rainier cherries in right now. No good for baking, but sweeeeeeeeeeet!
With Nixon it was Tricky Dick but today with Cheney it is Sicky Dicky.
the big concern for me is the same concern it is for the righties. that is that we could be attacked again. this admins. greed and incompetence is likely to get us all killed. of course the righties don't see it that way. REVENGE, at all costs.
Something inside me says we have to go through this loop a few more times before it's broken.
Attacked. Revenge. Attacked. Revenge. Attacked. Revenge.
Eventually the American people will get sick of the process. I'm hoping it's sooner rather than later but I don't know.
9/11. Revenge. Invade Iraq causes. Fallujah. Revenge. Destroy the whole City causes. The Insurgency to fan out and grow more popular causes. The end of any pretence that this is about democracy. Etc.
People don't even realize that we're in a downward spiral. Nobody's really talking about how great it was to see Saddam out of Iraq or the Shiites able to practice their religion.
Deep down inside the American people hate the Iraqis. It's already failed but when do we admit it?
Duh. I ordered my steak medium rare.
Oh, an aristocrat...
No, then I would've ordered it tartare.
Shut up, NTodd.
Shut up? Oh, I can shut up. You tell me to shut up and I will shut up. Really, this is me shutting up...
Hecate--I'm thinking a nice Chardonnay, nothing extravagant, maybe a St. Francis. Merci beaucoup.
As for the LHT...hmm, I don't think I can reverse the travel on my leadscrew without reversing the chuck direction, which would mean mounting the tool on the other side of the part....
I think we've found the secret troll repellent we've always dreamed of.
Gentleman, you do us proud. /humble bow
Hey, Hecate - evening all. Just returning from a lovely evening spent reading Harper's, in the pool. With an equivalently lovely Bushmill's. Temperature's dropped to a chilly 102.
"I love sitting up here, looking at those bright, twinkly things in the sky, I forget their technical name."
Says Moe: "Ah, look at all them stars. Bunch of lazy lights -- don't do nothing for nobody."
I can shut up. You tell me to shut up and.....
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I so totally know YOU are, but what am I, huh?
"The idea that every part of a new product or a home project even, can be bought off the shelf is....."
yeah, but for most people the need for some specialized part is very rare...and if it entails buying a lathe and learning how to use it it's much easier to just go to a local shop and pay to have it done.
For the stuff we make as part of our business, we try to design as much as we can around stuff that can be bought off the shelf to keep costs down...
Diane--I have a farm a mile from my house, and they get awesome ones.
Got an address handy for said farm? I'll buy the next drink.
NTodd--I was joking about Dourif--I know he's a "working actor" who'll do anything.
My joke/snark radar is apparently malfunctioning tonight.
Will you be building a bridge for your personal troll to live under?
I'm a bit busy, so I'll prolly need to outsource, but it seems the decent thing to do.
Attacked. Revenge. Attacked. Revenge. Attacked. Revenge.
Eventually the American people will get sick of the process.
Hasn't worked too well in Israel...
Ripley, does it have the World's Largest Hockey Stick leaning against it?
I am 15 or 20 mins hopelessly behind, but the answer to your question is reversing the travel of the lathe and cutting from left to right.
I was thinking about doing that tomorrow (left hand) but have not yet made me a internal threading bar.
.
Kent™ Embigulator
When thread cutting you normally want to start "off the work". Reversing the feed direction will force you to start on the work.
Reverse the chuck rotation and keep the normal feed.
I so totally know YOU are, but what am I, huh?
You're a THREAD SLAYER!
"Duh. I ordered my steak medium rare."
At my house, you could be eating bool kogi, grilled...
Shut up, shuttin' up, NTodd.
doug, that's just not right. No, not right at all... hehehe
Why isn't the world's largest Molson bottle not next to that hockey stick?
Shutting up is HARD WORK.
9/11 is hard shutting up, too. Saddam shut up. I won't shut up.
Bush's Sunday radio message.
I'm glad I decided to stop by. I was getting really angry watching the Live 8 concert on ABC. There is no reason any child in the world need go to bed hungry or sick. We are more blessed than cursed and it is due to sheer greed and hubris that the world is in its current condition. But here I am with a smile on my face and it's because of you guys out there in cyberland. Thanks.
At my house, you could be eating bool kogi, grilled...
Is that Klingon?
I ventured over to LGF (God help me!).
Here's a sample.
"O'Donnell's a DNC operative, and he's trying some preemptive damage control using Rove as bogeyman.
But as we all know, Rove is much smarter than that. In fact, he's samrter than all the LLL's combined.
What will this idiot have to say when it's revealed a Demonrat is the source?
Very little, I surmise."
"I think the Plame leak is actually Joseph Wilson
He makes the most sense to me.
His outrage at Novak for "outing" his wife always seemed a bit staged to me and he did make out pretty good financially from the whole mess. In fact, besides the lawyers, Wilson is the only one who has profited (book deal, etc.) from this mess."
"I think the Plame leak is actually Joseph Wilson
KNOCK IT OFF with your baseless, yet rational theories!
/snicker, and now back to the imaginary LLL frog march, already in progress"
I'm going to take a shower now.
When I return I'd like one of those grilled steaks and a large glass of wine. Cuz you OWE me for going to that freakfest of lunatics!
Eventually the American people will get sick of the process.
Hasn't worked too well in Israel...
Pere Ubu | Email | Homepage | 07.02.05 - 10:06 pm | #
Israel is a tiny country and the Israelis are hardened beyond reason because they feel under a state of seige.
The Palestinians are a tiny, weak people living in sub Saharan poverty.
The United States resembles neither. The Unites States is so big, and so powerful that even after 9/11 most of us are able to ignore politics. Most Americans aren't on the right or on the left. They're in their own world trying to ignore everything.
OK. There's a big minority on the right. Not much on the left. And a vast majority that's apolitical.
That's simply not possible in a country like Israel.
it is interesting to note that many of the criminals from iran/contra have or are currently working in this administration.
i'm just saying really bad shit is going on. but we already knew that.
I hadn't thought about those crooks in this context. Hell, they are old pros. What do want to bet they have the shredders working overtime in the WH.
You're a THREAD SLAYER!
NTodd
==
(muffled sob!)
No rock stars go to be hungry. Or alone, for that matter.
Top 3 links on drudge are about Plame.
From drudge:
"Karl Rove, President Bush's chief political adviser, spoke with TIME mag's Matthew Cooper during a critical week in July 2003 when Cooper was reporting on a public critic of the Bush administration who was also the husband of a CIA operative.
But Rove did not leak the name of the CIA op Plame, Rove's lawyer said again Saturday night.
Robert Luskin said Rove never identified Plame to Cooper in those conversations."
It's already good. Make rove deny it. It'll be great if rove is proven a liar.
doug, is the tape on that stick regulation? [/hockey pedant]
Rummy is going to be grand marshal for the Fire Cracker 400 at Daytona
oh good, another reason not to give a rat's ass about NASCAR.
Pere Ubu
For real!?
Shut up, shuttin' up, NTodd.
I knew you could be a fun person!
bigvic--No joke about Caine in Jaws 4 and its filming schedule. He plays a drunken beach bum who must battle to shark to win the hand of Roy Scheider's widow. I assume he got drunk and did a Robert Shaw imitation.
Are Jeffraham and Curly in the house?
Why isn't the world's largest Molson bottle not next to that hockey stick?
Elaine, are you trying to trip me up with some kind of crazy doublespeak that will make me admit that I love Canada and hate America?
Ha! didn't work... didn't even work...
You're a THREAD SLAYER!
NTodd
==
(muffled sob!)
I meant that affectionately.
This year's Rummy NASCAR race will be exciting.
All Humvees without armor and the Iraqis built the track.
NTodd--grilled boneless beef ribs in Korean marinade. Delicious.
As for Klingons, I've got a friend who's a Klingon Spanky Babe, and another who's a Dorsai Irregular...does that count?
"I think the Plame leak is actually Joseph Wilson
He makes the most sense to me.
Considering the source, "I think" is the only thing that's an actual lie in this statment.
I'd love to see Karl Rove in leg irons in a perp walk. It's probably about the only way he could make me happy.
Actually, NTodd, Mena is a vampire slayer, but we're keeping it quiet.
Reverse the chuck rotation and keep the normal feed.
Thanks agave, and also about the acme awareness.
At this point I am pleased to have made it beyond the "crashing the tool" stage of developement.
.
This NASCAR race will also have camels with Taliban riding. They will use the rocket propelled handgrenades.
That's simply not possible in a country like Israel.
I didn't mean it as an exact analogy; more as snark...
but Americans are a stubborn lot. We're still resisting converting to metric, mo matter how much more sense it makes...
(muffled sob!)
I meant that affectionately.
NTodd | Email | Homepage | 07.02.05 - 10:12 pm | #
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I totally win!
"I'd love to see Karl Rove in leg irons in a perp walk. It's probably about the only way he could make me happy."
I'd find hanged for treason very satisfying as well.
He was here earlier, Sally... sans shirt, I might add... /cue porno music
I love NY, but I really hope that Paris, France wins the 2012 Olympics. I added in the France because I know there are more than a few smart-asses here tonight and it that was a pre-emptive Hilton sex joke strike.
hadenough,
Just having Rove's name run through the dirt is satisfying in itself. I hope he reaps what he's sown, real soon and that petty little puppet he plays with named GWB, too.
TheOtherWashington,
That is stunning!
Man, those idiots must have some serious 10 gallon Alcoa chapeau's.
Ripley--since I consider him my kid brother, the no shirt no shoes no service thing does not apply here
When do the dirty jokes begin?
"Gentleman, you do us proud. /humble bow
many have called me repellant.
ok, enough with the lathe/thread stuff. Let's talk SOUP!
I'd find hanged for treason very satisfying as well.
Can't you still be done it by firing squad for treason?
Kent™ Embigulator - I have a set of "Brubaker Taps." I don't know what they are but my Grandfather Brubaker was a Master Machinist and I figured that a bunch of other Brubakers probably were too. What are they? (Not Brubakers, but Brubaker Taps.)
NASCAR bites compared to Formula One.
F1 cars go fast. Fun!
NASCAR cars are slow and pokey. Not Fun!
Just my opinion.
Is soup dirty, jdw?
Does anybody read EM Forster anymore? This is what some of the hopes that there will be THE ONE BIG event that brings down Bush reminds me a bit of:
Leonard listened to it with reverence. He felt that he was being done good to, and that if he kept on with Ruskin, and the Queen's Hall Concerts, and some pictures by Watts, he would one day push his head out of the grey waters and see the universe. He believed in sudden conversion, a belief which may be right, but which is peculiarly attractive to a half-baked mind. It is the bias of much popular religion: in the domain of business it dominates the Stock Exchange, and becomes that "bit of luck" by which all successes and failures are explained. "If only I had a bit of luck, the whole thing would come straight. . . . He's got a most magnificent place down at Streatham and a 20 h.-p. Fiat, but then, mind you, he's had luck. . . . I'm sorry the wife's so late, but she never has any luck over catching trains." Leonard was superior to these people; he did believe in effort and in a steady preparation for the change that he desired. But of a heritage that may expand gradually, he had no conception: he hoped to come to Culture suddenly, much as the Revivalist hopes to come to Jesus. Those Miss Schlegels had come to it; they had done the trick; their hands were upon the ropes, once and for all. And meanwhile, his flat was dark, as well as stuffy.
Specifically this sentence.
But of a heritage that may expand gradually, he had no conception: he hoped to come to Culture suddenly, much as the Revivalist hopes to come to Jesus.
Episode 906: The Death Of Eric Cartman - Make It Right
I'm gonna make, make it right.
I'm gonna take a little time and set things right.
Make, make it right.
I'm payin' for my sins and it sure feels great.
It feels so good to be making up
For all the things I've done wrong.
I know now what the Good Lord in Heaven
Wanted from me all along.
All along, I'm gonna make, make it right.
'Cause Jesus wants me to have a clean slate.
Not faking it, I'm making it right.
I'm payin' for my sins and it sure feels great.
Make, make it right!
Make, make it right!
Gonna make it right, Jesus, I've got to have your lovin' tonight!
NTodd--you figured out yet it's not all about you? Just checking...
"the seatle times is reporting that Rove talked but did not leak."
That's only because of the Depends.
TOW,
Thanks. Now, go shower and when you get back a nice beverage of your choice will be waiting.
NASCAR is all about driving on the freeway without the benefit of being drunk.
grilled boneless beef ribs in Korean marinade.
Only Korean food I ever had was in Moscow. Sounds good.
I've got a friend who's a Klingon Spanky Babe
I'm gonna need to be alone for a few minutes...
NTodd--if you saw her in costume, you'd need a lot more than a few minutes. And probably more than one hand.
When do the dirty jokes begin?
That implies that they end sometime...
"Is soup dirty, jdw?
Elaine Supkis"
It's dirty ASS, Elaine.
ok, enough with the lathe/thread stuff. Let's talk SOUP!
jdw |
OK But can we do the "surface grinder" next week?
Hold on to your butts:
"We're standing there dying, daring to do nothing decisive because we've declared ourselves to be better than our terrorist enemies--more moral, more civilized," he said. Drawing a contrast with what he cast as the praiseworthy nuclear bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in World War II, Harvey lamented that "we sent men with rifles into Afghanistan and Iraq and kept our best weapons in their silos"--suggesting that America should have used its nuclear arsenal in its invasions of both countries
[snip]
"We didn't come this far because we're made of sugar candy. Once upon a time, we elbowed our way onto and across this continent by giving smallpox-infected blankets to Native Americans. That was biological warfare. And we used every other weapon we could get our hands on to grab this land from whomever.
"And we grew prosperous. And yes, we greased the skids with the sweat of slaves. So it goes with most great nation-states, which--feeling guilty about their savage pasts--eventually civilize themselves out of business and wind up invaded and ultimately dominated by the lean, hungry up-and-coming who are not made of sugar candy."
-Paul Harvey on ABC/Disney radio, June 23, 2005
Good-fuckin'-day?
NTodd--you figured out yet it's not all about you? Just checking...
You're such a kidder.
NTodd--you figured out yet it's not all about you?
Really!
It is, of course, about me.
NTodd--grilled boneless beef ribs in Korean marinade. Delicious.
Nooooo. Bones in!
NASCAR cars don't even LOOK fast.
F1 cars move at 250 MPH even when standing still.
NTodd--if you saw her in costume, you'd need a lot more than a few minutes. And probably more than one hand.
I'll go out on a limb here and speak for Thers while he's grilling.
Thers and I are gonna have go ahead and sorta say Noooooo, here....
NASCAR is all about driving on the freeway without the benefit of being drunk.
Elaine Supkis
And spending 3 hours making a left hand turn while 200,000 people watch.
It is, of course, about me.
Thersites
Thers' no I in me...
"F1 cars go fast. Fun!
NASCAR cars are slow and pokey. Not Fun!"
LA street racing. Really fastcars. Dangerous. Way fun!
Sugar candy nukes.
The latest NASCAR rage.
Caine in Jaws 4 and its filming schedule. He plays a drunken beach bum who must battle to shark to win the hand of Roy Scheider's widow.
Good lord. Whew! I can't believe a fine actor like Cain would be in a role or a movie like that. Thanks. I think. Heh.
-Paul Harvey on ABC/Disney radio, June 23, 2005
Good-fuckin'-day?
WalterNeff |
I read that earlier today. Simply unbelievable coming from an 86 year old fart. Why?
If we nuked everyone we will win all wars all the time. Downside: I don't want to be reborn as a cockroach. Ech.
I'd find hanged for treason very satisfying as well.
Can't you still be done it by firing squad for treason?
Oh, any old way is fine with me....
The 200,000 are drunk.
And then they leave and go onto the freeway...why this isn't put on TV upsets me. Geeze. It is way obvious.
"OK But can we do the "surface grinder" next week?
Agent Orange"
don't forget the "reamers", Agent Orange.
"NASCAR" - it even sounds red statey
turning from a lovely evening spent reading Harper's, in the pool. With an equivalently lovel
That just reminds me of how awfully funny and clever I think I am.
How about belt-sander racing?
Paul Harvey is one crazy mofo!
Sordid teaser for NTodd: on Monday, my daughter is the dunk babe at an AA benefit picnic.
There will be pics in a white T-shirt and a bikini.
The little green maniacs say O'Donnell isn't a reliable source because he called the Captain of the Swift boat liars a liar. On TV. Oooooo.
I feel more pity than hate for those koolaide drinkers.
But not much.
If we nuked everyone we will win all wars all the time. Downside: I don't want to be reborn as a cockroach. Ech.
Elaine Supkis
What was the guy's name in Metamorphosis?
-Paul Harvey on ABC/Disney radio, June 23, 2005
Good fucking Christ.... are you serious???
Y'know, things would be a hell of a lot different if these fuckhounds had to go hand to hand with each other. Bush v. Hussein, no rules. I'm just sayin....
mena, you're welcome. i've got a better version up now. fantastic
Thers' no I in me...
I used to tell my workshop classes that there's no I in 'team'. One day I had a smartass student who noted that there is a 'me' in 'team.'
"Oh, any old way is fine with me...."
I'm with Mary. It's the results, not the strategy, that counts.
NASCAR=NAZIMOBILE=VOLKSWAGEN=HERBIE
See how the word evolves? No wonder it is so red statish.
How about belt-sander racing?
That is so cool.
Pie,
I gave First Draft (and Echidne) some props today on my blog.
NASCAR=NAZGUL=GOLLUM=BUSH
See? It slowly morphs in the mind, no?
NTbrainproots
Toby?!
Deep down inside the American people hate the Iraqis. It's already failed but when do we admit it?
SWR
it's not the war it's the lying. i thought that would be apparent, and win the election for kerry (actually in my gut it think it did).
no, you've called it. most people, myself included, are apolitical. they don't want to have to face the realities of what their government is doing, or in this case, also not doing.
i can't fill in the blanks as well as a lot of posters here, but i've a sixth sense. terrorism is a real threat, not new either, condis prevarications to the 9/11 white wash make it clear they we're asleep at the switch. blahda, blahda, blahda, BOOM! then we will really see the shit hit the fan.
may you live in interesting times indeed.
Wouldn't the header look snazzier as 'An Online Magazine of News, Commentary, and Editorial Opinion'? I'm just saying....
There will be pics in a white T-shirt and a bikini."
bring 'em on.
"F1 cars go fast. Fun!
NASCAR cars are slow and pokey. Not Fun!"
LA street racing. Really fastcars. Dangerous. Way fun!
Autoduel - really fast cars SHOOTING at each other. FUN! (as a game, anyway)
Diane, thanks! BRB!
on Monday, my daughter is the dunk babe at an AA benefit picnic.
There will be pics in a white T-shirt and a bikini.
Are the pics for sale? I mean, I love to support a good cause...
Reverse the chuck rotation and keep the normal feed.
Thanks agave, and also about the acme awareness.
At this point I am pleased to have made it beyond the "crashing the tool" stage of developement.
.
Kent™ Embigulator
I think that was AgentOrange.
Here's a weird one, AMO threads.
.800-56 AMO, I think.
Microscope Objective threads.
.
NTodd--we hadn't thought of that. Even Monsieur's inner entrepreneur could be embraced...
It's $2.00 for three baseballs.
NASCAR=NAZIMOBILE=VOLKSWAGEN=HERBIE
See how the word evolves? No wonder it is so red statish.
Don't you dare besmirch Lindsay Lohan's good reputation on her 19th birthday.
I gave First Draft (and Echidne) some props today on my blog.
Both are excellent.
I, otoh, am a slacker.
One day I had a smartass student who noted that there is a 'me' in 'team.'
That was me! I did that! Did you like how I did that? Now it's all about ME, see?
Aelfric you left out the Celebrity Gossip and Missing White Women News.
Rummy is going to be grand marshal for the Fire Cracker 400 at Daytona
What's the problem?
Fire the cracker, already.
I read that earlier today. Simply unbelievable coming from an 86 year old fart. Why?
Agent Orange | Email | 07.02.05 - 10:22 pm | #
It's not in the slightest unbelievable. My grandfather and father talk like this all the time.
Harvey's just like most Americans.
We should have invaded Russia after World War II. No Cold War. We should have let Doug McCarthur cross into China and nuked Bejing. No problem with North Korea today.
And both my father and grandfather actually served in the military. No chickenhawks.
It's the same in Israel. Just transfer the Palestinians. That will solve all your problems.
People think extreme solutions are easy ones. They want to cut the gordian knot because you can't untie it.
Most of us are Stalinists deep down inside. Why? Because when you think abstractly, you can't see consequences. There's no connection in my father and grandfather's mind between war and whatever easy solution a nuke would use to solve it.
What people don't see is that every action has consequences. We could Nuke the Iranians but then no oil.
"What was the guy's name in Metamorphosis?"
Gregor Samsa, I believe
NASCAR bites compared to Formula One.
No shit. F1 cars can turn in more than one direction!
Has NTodd shut up yet?
We will tell Tom Cruise.
Fire the cracker, already.
Thersites
Well, there goes the clean surface on my monitor.
Hold on to your butts:
Hahahaha. Got both cheeks in hand! Paul Harvey is a crazy old bastard. Jeepers H. Christmas. Wouldn't you expect that old goat to gain some wisdom in old age? The wingnuttery wear me out.
It's $2.00 for three baseballs.
And enjoy the complimentary blueballs, as well...
It's $2.00 for three baseballs.
I don't think I could hit the target from here. Can I stand closer?
Question ...
If the fat ugly traitor Karl Rove is indicted by a grand jury will we liberals offer him therapy and our understanding?
Just askin' ...
So, big Live 8 concerts-- don't have much to say about them-- might do some good, at least people are talking about poverty, and it seems to be moving a little past simple degrading charity, but who knows? My real point, though, is this:
Tokyo, London, Philadelphia, Rome, Berlin, Versailles, Moscow, and...
Barrie?
I watched the end of the Barrie show, broadcast on CTV, and Neil Young got all of two songs and a dopey finale of "Free World."
Total disconnect-- but "Ohio" took all of four days to write, produce and make to the airwaves, after Kent State. Don't think that would happen today....
"Has NTodd shut up yet?"
You're joking, right?
no, you've called it. most people, myself included, are apolitical. they don't want to have to face the realities of what their government is doing, or in this case, also not doing.
In the United States you have the luxury of being apolitical.
For most of us the difference between Bush and Kerry has no short term consequences.
This has nothing in common with say, the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.
That's why the "cycle of violence" here doesn't resemble that between the Israelis and Palestinians.
It's not really as bad here actually. When Bush's war (and Bush) starts causing people too much grief, they'll shut it down.
But they won't see the long term consequences it's going to have. They won't see how the USA's position in the world has changed. They won't see how badly we've ruined our chances to "lead" people in the Middle East.
"Aelfric you left out the Celebrity Gossip and Missing White Women News."
That was last night, Elaine
Has NTodd shut up yet?
I'm still shuttin' up. Rest assured that I will shut up when the shuttin' up's good. Because if there's anything I know anything about, it's shuttin' up. I can shut up whenever I want to. I just don't want to shut up right now. But I'm going to shut up because people have kindly requested that I shut up. So I will totally shut up.
Oh no, have to go to B-e-d. Got to rig up two stories of scaffolding tomorrow...
ringing off now, moonbats. See you all later....
I'm not playing nice. If you whiny defeatists can't bring down your president on the most egregious crime of one of his staff outing a CIA operative and endangering the lives of a number of people, then you can't call yourselves democrats (small or big 'D') anymore.
And if you think that's "smug" you can kiss my ass.
Speaking of fast cars - Danica won the pole position today at the Kansas Fast Cars Go Around Motor Speedway (I'm too lazy to look up the actual event).
Evening Moonbats: Has the chimp quit in shame yet?
Has NTodd shut up yet?
We will tell Tom Cruise.
Another crazy ass mofo. Katie...you're still a young woman. GET OUT WHILE YOU CAN!
guys if i take the floyd down and you're dling im sorry. i am getting absolutely bamboozled right now
Well, Geez, Elaine: I hope it wasn't me.
Aw Nate, I hope it doesn't come to that!
It's $2.00 for three baseballs.
I can afford that.
At an IBM picnic one summer I got really pissed at the dunking booth. I never have been a really accurate pitcher (which is why I'm always in the outfield), but the person in the booth was really taunting me something fierce. So I walked over and smacked the target with my hand, dunking the guy. I got a major round of applause.
It's been 4 mins
.
no, you've called it. most people, myself included, are apolitical. they don't want to have to face the realities of what their government is doing, or in this case, also not doing.
Even the vast majority of people with a stated political bias are apolitical.
My coworker who listens to Michael Savage and talks about nuking Iran and I both coexist relatively peacefully in the same vicinity. We say good morning and good evening. We don't get into fights.
Neither of us would really want to risk getting fired or going to jail over our politics.
There's not much conviction on either side.
I'm not playing nice. If you whiny defeatists can't bring down your president on the most egregious crime of one of his staff outing a CIA operative and endangering the lives of a number of people, then you can't call yourselves democrats (small or big 'D') anymore.
Dude, I'll have to check with my manager... hang on...
Sen. Patty Murray gave the weekly Democratic radio address:
"Due to their failures, we saw troops using scrap metal to armor their Humvees"
"Due to their failures, we saw families raising funds to buy bulletproof vests for soldiers fighting in Iraq. And now, due to their failures, we see that the VA doesn't have the money to provide the needed medical care when our troops return home."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/
20050...HNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
RE: Brubaker taps, I found this. www.brubakertool.com. I also had a master machinist grandfather. For fun, he used to make perfect spheres out of stainless steel just to show that he could.
If Nicole Kidman has one big block buster of a movie, she could spill all of Cruise's secrets and we could be rid of him once and for all. She wouldn't have to depend on the settlement and could sing like a canary.
NTodd, you don't even — you're glib. You don't even know what shuttin' up is. Here's the problem. You don't know the history of shuttin' up. I do.
Oh no, have to go to B-e-d. Got to rig up two stories of scaffolding tomorrow...
ringing off now, moonbats. See you all later....
Elaine Supkis
There are companies that do that. They usually call themselves "Erection Services"
Patty Murray is my senator - when I vote for her I have to hold my nose. She's dumb as a post.
g'night, commie pinko thread cutting cigar smoking liberal elitists.
Nite Elaine,
Peace out.
If the fat ugly traitor Karl Rove is indicted by a grand jury will we liberals offer him therapy and our understanding?
Hell No!
Straight to Gitmo for some lovely lemon chicken, two fruits, then a little friendly "hazing" for an undetermined length of time.
If you whiny defeatists can't bring down your president on the most egregious crime of one of his staff outing a CIA operative and endangering the lives of a number of people, then you can't call yourselves democrats (small or big 'D') anymore.
If this shit keeps up like the last couple days you better get ready to have a couple million people crash on your living room couch.
Neither of us would really want to risk getting fired or going to jail over our politics.
There's not much conviction on either side.
Got a wife or kids, SWR?
No, I didn't think so.
And if you think that's "smug" you can kiss my ass.
Could I see a picture of your ass before I decide?
They usually call themselves "Erection Services"
As do I... (or)
Or they call themselves "Bulldog"...
Zank you, I'll be here all ze week...
Omnes Omnibus - I see we go back to Pennsylvania - where the Brubakers landed in 1727 from German Switzerland. My Grandfather ended up just making money tho - in Tulsa, during the Depression. He owned a chain of brake repair shops.... Not bad.
If this shit keeps up like the last couple days you better get ready to have a couple million people crash on your living room couch.
Come on up, seriously. I foresee that we'll be providing all sorts of services for Americans in coming years-- housing the draft dodgers, putting up those in need of abortions, marrying the gays, etc.
Weird, my immigration paperwork hasn't yet gone through, but I'm more and more saying "we," as if I'm Canadian...
And. I'm. Spent. [/austinpowers].
good night to all and to all a kick ass.
good night to all and to all a fuck Bush.
(funnier)
2 million turn out for Gay Pride Day in Madrid.
http://www.elmundo.es/fotografia...llo_gay/
02.html
So I walked over and smacked the target with my hand, dunking the guy. I got a major round of applause.
NTod
Hahahahaha. I only have fantasy daydreams about doing shit like that. Bravo.
Nite Walter.
Haloscan is shuffling posts again, I see.
Combine that with a coupla beers and I'm havin' problems here.
And spending 3 hours making a left hand turn while 200,000 people watch.
Could the race start any fucking later? Jee-zus.
Just finished watching "I Stand Alone." Yee gods and monsters, that is one disturbing movie.
bigvic - I've never been good with boundaries.
Eben Cooke - Go learn The Maple Leaf Forever and make sure to hum it when you go in front of the Migra. You'll slide thru and home, no problems.
2 million turn out for Gay Pride Day in Madrid.
Tosh. Just a focus group.
And if you think that's "smug" you can kiss my ass.
Could I see a picture of your ass before I decide?
NTodd | Email | Homepage | 07.02.05 - 10:36 pm | #
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I, too, want to request this courtesy. Before I have my people call your people.
There are companies that do that. They usually call themselves "Erection Services"
When I worked night shift data entry, one of the best company names I saw on a check was "Rickey's Steel Erection".
I also liked "Stormy Leather"...
Sallyh: Are Jeffraham and Curly in the house?
Half!
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Christians against homophobia-Madrid
http://www.elmundo.es/fotografia...llo_gay/
11.html
geez louise.
Is there any balm in Gilead? Is all well? Can I come out from between the box springs and the mattress where I have lain in foetal position, sucking my thumb and whimpering?
I am not even sure why I want to share this, but it seems I do. This evening I watched WE WERE SOLDIERS. I know that Mel Gibson seems to have gone over to the dark side, but in this particular movie I thought his acting and the story spot on.
I know many of you have seen it, I have before as well. But this evening the effect of the pointless death and destruction and its effects on families and soldiers really hit home.
I read the casualty figures every day. I read Elaine's story of young Holly. I see the lying motherfuckers in office, and I seethe.
This evening, at the conclusion of the show: an old man started crying. It was devastating. When in the hell are people going to wake up? Sure maybe Rove going down will help: but that will not solve the problem. We are killing people and being killed for no good reason. What is so hard to understand about that?
Damn them all to Hell.
Got a wife or kids, SWR?
No, I didn't think so.
pie | Email | Homepage | 07.02.05 - 10:36 pm | #
Are you saying that Americans with kids are more likely to be political, more likely to put their routines in jeapordy over politics than people who don't?
This makes no sense. A lot of people who form the "shock troops" for an anti-war movement are unmarried college kids with no children.
If you're married and have kids and a mortgage and a car loan and a job you're worried about losing, you're actually less likely to disrupt your life over politics, to risk your daily routine, to risk getting fired and losing your house or putting your kids future in jeapordy.
Sallyh: Are Jeffraham and Curly in the house?
Half!
And half in the bag. Oh, I got a million of em!
Ok, I'll just sit quietly now...
Madrid Lesbian says, "My freedom safeguards yours!"
http://www.elmundo.es/fotografia...llo_gay/
19.html
When I worked night shift data entry, one of the best company names I saw on a check was "Rickey's Steel Erection".
Does the charge include a 55 Gallon drum of Viagra?
Deep down inside the American people hate the Iraqis
Speaking only for yourself, of course.
Go learn The Maple Leaf Forever and make sure to hum it when you go in front of the Migra. You'll slide thru and home, no problems.
GWPDA, Irate Scholar
I actually bought the two-volume People's History of Canada and studied up before I moved here. I've been drinking local beers, and a few un-scripted "eh?"s have come out. And I just survived the worse winter of my life, and that includes one in Minneapolis and one in Alaska. The like the paperwork, so far, and I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
When I worked night shift data entry, one of the best company names I saw on a check was "Rickey's Steel Erection".
==
The town I grew up in had a little body shop called Bill's Body Works.
Is there any balm in Gilead? Is all well? Can I come out from between the box springs and the mattress where I have lain in foetal position, sucking my thumb and whimpering?
My cat hides between my box spring and mattress whenever he hears a garbage truck or a lawn mower.
Damn them all to Hell.
DWD
And when Rumsfeld shows up at the NASCAR race, I'll bet 99% of the people there will cheer him.
Fucking unbelievable!
I am not even sure why I want to share this, but it seems I do. This evening I watched WE WERE SOLDIERS. I know that Mel Gibson seems to have gone over to the dark side, but in this particular movie I thought his acting and the story spot on.
I thought it was a good movie, and Mel's portrayal as the late Lt. Col. Moore was pitch perfect. The book it's based on is excellent--got it when it first came out and re-read it last year while plowing through Street Without Joy and Kerry's biography.
one of the best company names I saw on a check was "Rickey's Steel Erection".
Among my favorites: Sealed Air Corporation.
Does the charge include a 55 Gallon drum of Viagra?
No, this was in the dark penistoric ages before Viagra. I assume they used some sort of elaborate system involving lots of wenches.
sition in the world has changed. They won't see how badly we've ruined our chances to "lead" people in the M
This really did remind me of how awfully funny and clever I really do think I am.
The like the paperwork, so far, and I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
Ah, they always end up mocking your paperwork Eben - I'll never forget the Buffalo consul holding onto all my papers, my Pop's affidavit, all that, and sighing - "You Western Canadians don't pay the slightest bit of attention to that border do you?" Well, no, not really. But by-God she stamped me thru, despite it all. They just want to make sure you're quality, that's all.
Well, I have to shut up now. I hope somebody here can keep the inane prattle and meaningless blather going in my absence. Peace out, you liberal pig dogs.
Are you saying that Americans with kids are more likely to be political, more likely to put their routines in jeapordy over politics than people who don't?
You said: There's not much conviction on either side.
Heh.
The town I grew up in had a little body shop called Bill's Body Works.
Forget where I saw it, may have been here. Someone was recounting a tale in Britain.
On the wall was a sign that said "Bill Posters Will Be Prosecuted", under which someone had scribbled "Bill Posters Is Innocent!".
Crazy Brits....I still get a chuckle out of that one.
And when Rumsfeld shows up at the NASCAR race, I'll bet 99% of the people there will cheer him.
Flippin' through channels a few minutes ago, and yes, they most certainly did.
involving lots of wenches
And lotion.
WTF is wrong with this country? I just saw a commercial for ABC's 4th of July extravaganda and all they showed were Country Music singers and hicks dressed in cowboy hats and flag shirts. Fuck these assholes that keep playing like red state rednecks are real Amurkins and the rest of us are toast. Stand back, by head is gonna 'splode.
My dad had a soft spot for this factory we drove past called, "Delaware Bolt & Nut".
I will be taking over the inane prattle from NTodd now. Anyone care to take charge of the meaningless blather?
They just want to make sure you're quality, that's all.
Oh, then I'm doomed. I am, however, married to a Canuk. We went up to Cape Breton Island two weeks ago for a little cermony in the Sydney courthouse, then took pictures under that giant fiddle by the harbor.
We figured those fiddle pictures would count for something.
And lotion.
You worked there?
Damn, it's a small world.
I will be taking over the inane prattle from NTodd now. Anyone care to take charge of the meaningless blather?
I considered taking on both, actually. But I decided I was probably overqualified.
Deep down inside the American people hate the Iraqis
Speaking only for yourself, of course.
monica_nyc | 07.02.05 - 10:44 pm | #
If you're not aware of the deep, festering hate that a lot of Americans have for Arabs and Muslims, you need to get out of New York City (or more likely you're little hermeutically sealed world within New York City) once in a while.
Take a drive through suburbia sometime. Talk to people. Get your fucking head out of your idiot self-righteous fog.
I know it's tough to face the worst about the American people. Most Americans feel the same way. They're in a deep state of denial, just like you. They can hate one moment and deny the next.
Woody - ""Bill Posters Is Innocent!"." On Central Avenue - "Haircuts While You Wait". On Central Avenue in Phoenix: "Tony's - For the Particular". I try to avoid both places, they end up possessing me for hours. Particular what? Big Red what? Oooooooohh....
For Karl:
Dont need a leader I'm not a sheep
And I will never succumb
I'll always march to a different beat
The beat of a differet drum
How do you tighten a dolt?
With a wench.
I just saw a commercial for ABC's 4th of July extravaganda and all they showed were Country Music singers and hicks dressed in cowboy hats and flag shirts.
So? Don't watch it.
You said: There's not much conviction on either side.
Heh.
pie | Email | Homepage | 07.02.05 - 10:49 pm | #
I sometimes have a hard time telling the real Pie from Ted Smith.
and all they showed were Country Music singers and hicks dressed in cowboy hats and flag shirts.
See, country music is safe, American music. The cheatin and drinkin and ass-kickin, well, that's mainstream values, my friend.
My dad had a soft spot for this factory we drove past called, "Delaware Bolt & Nut".
There's a factory in Grand Rapids - Corduroy Rubber. Think they make ribbed condoms? Nope.. actually, I don't know what they make but I know it's not condoms....
SWR: I know it's tough to face the worst about the American people. Most Americans feel the same way. They're in a deep state of denial, just like you. They can hate one moment and deny the next.
Funny you should Brooks on us, here... I know a family of Kurds who own a little convenience store in the 'hood, here in GnashVegas, in red-state TN. They'd say you're full of shit, as folx went out of their way to make sure they were not painted with a broad brush in West Nashville, anyway.
.
This kid who plays Che Guevera in "The Motorcycle Diaries" ...
mmmmmm.....
And when Rumsfeld shows up at the NASCAR race, I'll bet 99% of the people there will cheer him.
Flippin' through channels a few minutes ago, and yes, they most certainly did.
Central Scrutinizer
So when did so many people lose their minds or did they never have one? I'll bet Rumsfeld left feeling vindicated of any criticism...vox populi.
SWR, ditto, darling.
Will the real SWR please stand up.
Peace out, NTodd.
And Kid, here is some useless blather for ya. 9/11 changed everything. Freedom is on the March. Prezinitin' is Hard work. I'm just warming up, mind you.
We figured those fiddle pictures would count for something.
They'll count for a lot - well those pictures and the certificate. But you must understand, that the very act of applying for Canadianism is the big deal - nobody does that but them what really want to do it. That's what matters. You'll be fine tho, laddie, don't worry.
Where are you, GWPDA?
Ah, I was namegamed on SWR! Heh! Well, he is out Sandra Day O'Connor, after all...
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Murray’s efforts pay off, Senate passes $1.5 billion to fix Administration shortfall
Today, after months of warnings and efforts to increase funding for veterans’ health care, U.S. Senator Patty Murray (D-Wash.) announced a major win for America’s veterans. Thanks to Murray’s persistent work, the Senate passed her amendment to provide $1.5 billion in emergency spending for the Department of Veterans’ Affairs. Murray’s amendment passed 96-0.
http://murray.senate.gov/news.cf...s.cfm?
id=239940
If you're not aware of the deep, festering hate that a lot of Americans have for Arabs and Muslims,
You made a general claim about American and Iraqis. Change the point if you want to, but recognize that you are doing so.
you need to get out of New York City (or more likely you're little hermeutically sealed world within New York City) once in a while.
Get off my back, asshole. You don't know a fucking thing about me.
Take a drive through suburbia sometime. Talk to people. Get your fucking head out of your idiot self-righteous fog.
I don't have to fucking drive to the suburbs; I deal with this shit every fucking day in my job, asshole.
I know it's tough to face the worst about the American people. Most Americans feel the same way. They're in a deep state of denial, just like you. They can hate one moment and deny the next.
Fuck you.
Bigvic, don't be glib. You aren't an expert on hard work. I am an expert on hard work.
Funny you should Brooks on us, here... I know a family of Kurds who own a little convenience store in the 'hood, here in GnashVegas, in red-state TN. They'd say you're full of shit, as folx went out of their way to make sure they were not painted with a broad brush in West Nashville, anyway.
OK. Let's say you and Monica are correct.
Most Americans don't hate the Iraqis. It's only people like me. It's only me. I'm the only person in America who hates the Iraqis.
Then let's say "Pie" is right. Americans with children have deep convictions about politics. They're will to put their own lives on the line for what they believe.
Then how is it possible that the war in Iraq is still going on?
I will be taking over the inane prattle from NTodd now.
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Is Eli still to blame?
Eben, like all good Albertans, I'm in Phoenix. Due South....
SRW -- Boy, you've got that pontificatin' "most people" thing down pat.
I know it's tough to face the worst about the American people.
Ah, it's Ted.
Living in his own little fantasy world. What a fucking bore. No wife, either.
Night, sweet moonbats.
My favorite wacky business is the S & M Communion Bread factory here in Nashvegas.
See, country music is safe, American music. The cheatin and drinkin and ass-kickin, well, that's mainstream values, my friend.
Ahhh, yes. And add to that fine list: Highest divorce rate, gun deaths, STUPID people. God Bless AMurica.
Fuck you.
monica_nyc | 07.02.05 - 10:56 pm | #
OK Monica. Most Americans don't hate the Iraqis. Most are willing to act on their politics.
Why is the war going on? Why are we killing Iraqis?
Remember we are killing them (you forgot that didn't you?).
Why?
Nite sweatie pie!
Peace.
Time for go to bed. /tor
I think I still have two cannoli in the freezer. I shall now go check.
Nite sweatie pie!
You know something we don't know?
cs: SRW -- Boy, you've got that pontificatin' "most people" thing down pat.
Bzzzt! Not SWR -- namegamer.
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Damn, it's a small world.
Smaller for some of Rickey's steel erectors than for others, surely.
Bzzzt! Not SWR -- namegamer.
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Email | Homepage | 07.02.05 - 11:00 pm | #
Why are we killing Iraqis?
Answer the question. You and Monica say most Americans don't hate the Iraqis.
Pie says most Americans are willing to act on their convictions.
And yet the war goes on. Why?
Remember we are killing them (you forgot that didn't you?).
Why are you such a jerk? How are you so sure that none of my extended family *are* Iraqis, you fucking asshole?
like all good Albertans, I'm in Phoenix. Due South....
LOL. Strike up Ann Murray, a good Nova Scotian... I came here from California, via Arkansas. I miss summer.
I gotta go watch a bad midnight movie-- midnight happens eearly here in Atlantic Time.
Tomorrow I'll have a church-related crime update. Night all.
See, country music is safe, American music. The cheatin and drinkin and ass-kickin, well, that's mainstream values, my friend.
Dude, you totally forgot trains, mama, rain, and prison!
(all right they're going to bed, wait till we're sure they're asleep)
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Eli is not to blame. Eli is the only one clever enough to read my blog and comment on the important new post I have up there.
SWR: Most Americans don't hate the Iraqis. It's only people like me. It's only me. I'm the only person in America who hates the Iraqis.
Who gives a fuck what a cowardly, namestealin', motherfuckin' piece of shit thinks or says, anyway?
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for for Eben i think i called it zuba the other day but it's really zaba.
and DWD, seriously i meant to offend no one this morning.
that word is common vernacular amongst kids. which proves i shouldn't be using it.
I came here from California, via Arkansas. I miss summer.
I know how that goes, altogether. Night-night.
War is the last great hope of the incompetent to order the unwilling to attempt the impossible.
William Eastlake 'The Bamboo Bed'
most Americans?
convictions?
Whaaaaaa?
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Why are you such a jerk? How are you so sure that none of my extended family *are* Iraqis, you fucking asshole?
monica_nyc | 07.02.05 - 11:02 pm | #
Explain to me why the war is going on (still going on) when (as you and JP) Americans don't hate Iraqis and as Pie says they're willing to act on their convictions?
Are we under a temporary spell that absolves us of responsibility?
Who gives a fuck what a cowardly, namestealin', motherfuckin' piece of shit thinks or says, anyway?
Why are we in Iraq if what you say is correct?
Kid,
You channeling Cruise now? Part of your duties? Well, soldier on. It's only fair I should warn you that I'm a world renouned, famus sykiatrist, just so you know.
Why is the war going on? Why are we killing Iraqis?
Short answer? Oil and cronyism.
Add Bush's unfulfilled dreams of lionizing himself, Americans' need to feel superior to the rest of the world and some good old-fashioned profit mongering....
I don't think anywhere near a majority of Americans hate Iraqis... do you?
Have I mentioned how much I hate haloscan?
Thanks Charley!
/nite.
SWR: Are we under a temporary spell that absolves us of responsibility?
I voted to leave Iraq -- did you? I voted not to invade in the first place -- did you?
Now that twice the number of Americans blame the war on your god, and not some sad old man in his BVDs, why ARE we in Iraq?
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Why is the war going on?
Add Bush's unfulfilled dreams of lionizing himself, Americans' need to feel superior to the rest of the world and some good old-fashioned profit mongering....
Bing, bang, BOOM. You are on a role, Ripely.
I don't think anywhere near a majority of Americans hate Iraqis... do you?
Ripley | Homepage | 07.02.05 - 11:05 pm | #
The great majority of (white) Americans are racists who hate Arabs and Muslims.
Yes. I believe that.
If we were killing Europeans at the rate we're killing Iraqis, the war would be a scandal. Most of us would be outraged.
You can blame it all on Bush or Ohio or Rove or whoever. And you can call me a name stealer for doubting that.
But it's not too different from the majority of Germans saying it was only Hitler, that the German people had nothing to do with the Holocaust. It's deep denial.
You sykiatrists are no match for a 17th degree Thetan.
I voted to leave Iraq -- did you? I voted not to invade in the first place -- did you?
I voted for Kerry. He was in favor of staying in Iraq.
So no. I didn't vote to leave Iraq.
I didn't vote on whether or not to invade, since I'm not in Congress. But both my Senators voted no on going into Iraq.
SWR: The great majority of (white) Americans are racists who hate Arabs and Muslims.
Yes. I believe that.
Believe in Tinkerbell, you sorry sack of namestealing shit.
A MAJORITY of AMERICANS think this was was BASED on LIES, and it was the WRONG THING TO DO.
Can they recall the troops? Fuck no! Shut your asstrap, fuckstick.
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okay, what does it take to be conversant with "hard work"?
My dad worked the wheat field of Minnesota. Got some serious frostbite. Had trouble w/his legs and feet his entire life after that.
I, myself, cleaned the houses of the privileged for 10 yrs. Ah, the toilets cleaned, the dishes washed, the clothing ironed. I liked it, actually, but had to give it up when my back went screwy.
Now, I use brain instead of brawn, thankfully.
But I do know "hard work" when I see it. And I expect many here do, too, as well.
10:00!
Rib roast goes in.
Hot roast beef sammich for Melissa when she gets home.
Red meat and Baby Brussel Sprouts for me!
Where's the HorseRadish?
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If we were killing Europeans at the rate we're killing Iraqis, the war would be a scandal. Most of us would be outraged.
Hahahahaha. Snap out of it. A sizable majority of Americans think this invasion, not legit war, IS A SCANDAL
Geeze, give it up.
The great majority of (white) Americans are racists who hate Arabs and Muslims.
I disagree. Americans "need" an enemy. We would have "gone to war" against Japan if BushCo had said it was disgruntled Japanese students flying those planes. I'm surprised they didn't try to say it was hardline Russians that miss the USSR.
Some white Americans hate everybody. The reason we're still killing Iraqis is that BushCo are too fucking stupid and vain to admit they fucked up, and too many of their insider buddies are making a fucking killing from this debacle.
The only relief Bush will get in Hell is when the 2,000+ souls of dead American troops stop by to piss on his soul.
A MAJORITY of AMERICANS think this was was BASED on LIES, and it was the WRONG THING TO DO.
Can they recall the troops? Fuck no! Shut your asstrap, fuckstick.
No. But they could have organized demonstrations in support of Dick Durbin and they didn't.
They could organize marches in opposition to the war. These exist but they're small.
Most Americans don't care. And we continue to kill people in Iraq.
Get as angry at me as you like. But you're not saving anybody's life doing it. You're only making yourself feel better.
Hahahahaha. Snap out of it. A sizable majority of Americans think this invasion, not legit war, IS A SCANDAL
And yet I can't think of a single demonstration anywhere in America supporting Dick Durbin.
Can you?
Ripley: Some white Americans hate everybody. The reason we're still killing Iraqis is that BushCo are too fucking stupid and vain to admit they fucked up, and too many of their insider buddies are making a fucking killing from this debacle.
A-fuckin'-men.
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fauxSWR -- WTF has Durbin to do with whether or not we stay in Iraq?
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Ripley: Some white Americans hate everybody. The reason we're still killing Iraqis is that BushCo are too fucking stupid and vain to admit they fucked up, and too many of their insider buddies are making a fucking killing from this debacle.
Some Germans hate everybody. The reason there was a Holocaust is that Hitler and Company were too stupid and vain to admit that killing Jews was wrong and their buddies were using it to stay in power.
I don't think anywhere near a majority of Americans hate Iraqis... do you?
Ripley
Ripley,
No, I don't believe they do. And I most certainly do not.
I think many of us realize that our respective gov'ts carry on with this shit, use us as pawns.
However, if you are in the war zone and white folks are hurting you and yours, it would be a fine dictinction to appreciate that not all white people are out to kill you.
If this shit keeps up like the last couple days you better get ready to have a couple million people crash on your living room couch.
Not a problem. I've got a pull-out.
But please...Don't make me come down there.
i agree with swr-if we were killing poodles or kitties there would be outrage. but arabs, hey, no problem.
Bzzzt! Not SWR -- namegamer.
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Jeffraham Prestonian
Don't be too sure about that. He goes off like that on a regular basis.
The only relief Bush will get in Hell is when the 2,000+ souls of dead American troops stop by to piss on his soul.
Ripley
good point, as you have much common sense. but i'm afraid the number will be much higher.
and as for me i'm willing and ready right now. Dead or Alive.
bigvic: Don't be too sure about that. He goes off like that on a regular basis.
No. The SWR I know isn't a simpleton who thinks that we're in Iraq because a majority of Americans hate Arabs, yet objectively do not support the war.
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fauxSWR -- WTF has Durbin to do with whether or not we stay in Iraq?
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Email | Homepage | 07.02.05 - 11:15 pm | #
Durbin objected to torturing Arabs. He was attacked by the right.
He got no support in Congress. There were no demonstrations supporting him. He had to back down.
We're killing people in Iraq (which you seem to either be unware of or don't care about) and yet it goes on without much opposition.
But hey, good thing people are answering those polls correctly.
Yeah. That gets us off the hook.
So, SWR, are you suggesting that some diehard, America loving liberal vote with a bullet?
That's where I draw the line. Speak out, protest, vote, blog, raise a mighty voice... but as much as I dislike and despise BushCo for what they're doing, I won't pull the trigger to get rid of him.
So, take your self-righteous blame or your troll-y, divisive talking points somewhere else, if that's your philosophy.
Sarah dear, that "you don't know hard work" was part of a running gag involving Tom Cruise.
fauxSWR -- what's your brilliant plan?
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So, SWR, are you suggesting that some diehard, America loving liberal vote with a bullet?
I don't seem to remember saying that.
I specifically said "Demonstrations Supporting Dick Durbin".
There were none.
How did you go from that to arguing that I'm advocating violence?
Remember we are killing them (you forgot that didn't you?).
Why?
SWR
So Halliburton can suck up all the oil and sell it worldwide at inflated prices?
So General Dynamics can make and sell uranium munitions and Raytheon can build and deploy new microwave pain weapons?
So CACI, DynCorp, and Balckwater can employ Chiliean expatriot killers to rape and obliterate undesirables of either gender and all ages?
Oh, sorry, I forgot that last one is what Negroponte's going to use his Homeland Security budget for...
But they could have organized demonstrations in support of Dick Durbin and they didn't.
What are you organizing? Get off you ass and stir up the activists in your area. It's not that hard to do. Happens around here all the time. Where are you demonstrations? Oh, forgot. You're all talk and no action.
SWR: I specifically said "Demonstrations Supporting Dick Durbin".
Which would have done what, Perfesser?
Now that THAT's not an option... what?
Lead us, trool!
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fauxSWR -- what's your brilliant plan?
1.) We could have had demonstrations supporting Durbin when he spoke the truth.
2.) There could be monthly marches on Washington.
Oh. And the obvious.
3.) THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY COULD BE CALLING FOR US TO GET OUT OF IRAQ
Aside from Kucinich, I don't see anybody doing it.
Which would have done what, Perfesser?
Maybe prevented him from backing down. Maybe indicated that there are some Americans who object to torture.
No. The SWR I know isn't a simpleton who thinks that we're in Iraq because a majority of Americans hate Arabs, yet objectively do not support the war.
Who knows, or cares, really. Just saying he has been extremely obnoxious at times on these here threads, so anything's possible.
Now that THAT's not an option... what?
Lead us, trool!
Somebody in the Democratic Party has to call for an immediate withdrawl from Iraq and there have to be mass demonsrations supporting him.
SWR, you seem to be pushing the point that "we" haven't done enough. So, I'll ask what have You done?
I e-mailed Dick Durbin the nite he made the Gitmo statement and offered my support. Did I march in the streets when he apologized? No.
If you think that taking to the streets every time Democrats get bad press is the answer, you're obviously new to our fair country. Please, enjoy our many natural wonders and some complimentary cheese curds.
That said, fuckin eh! it's a holiday weekend and I certainly don't need to listen to lectures, legitimate or not, from you tonite. Focus your angst on BushCo, don't speak down to us, please.
The majority of Americans will hate who they're told to. They have been anesthetized by the opiates of the people; religion and television. And religion on television. It's strange, but I know several seemingly decent, hard-working, intelligent Northeast Dems that have bought the "they want to kill us all" meme, and can't argue with the war, because of their overarching fear. They can't see that the rest of the world has lived this way for a long time, and as unfortunate as it is, we kill ourselves at a far higher rate than a bunch of ragtag terrorists across the oceans. Like, they're going to invade? How stupid is that? We don't collectively know the difference between an Iraqi and an Afghani, or a Saudi to a Jordanaire (just checking...Elvis has left the building). Those Nascar Rummy fans are not evolved enough yet to figure out that doing the same thing over and over again with the same bad result is the very definition of insanity. The inmates are running the ward, and the adult supervision has been locked out. I don't think SWR is wrong, or a namestealer. I think if the dems don't discipline themselves, this battle is lost. And it's a big one, and if lost will lead to rioting in the streets, with attendant overeaction. Worldwide, I think.
But I do know "hard work" when I see it. And I expect many here do, too, as well.
Sarah Deere
word up, oh never mind.
everyone lighten up. i mostly agree with SWR, (sorry).
but it's no good when every one attacks every one else. a phenomenon i've seen increasingly since Sandra abdicated her post. we are fucked.
i blame bush. i truly hate that mutherfucker. and i do not say that lightly.
and now to bed, as it will surely not be solved here.
SWR, you seem to be pushing the point that "we" haven't done enough. So, I'll ask what have You done?
I'm not going to get into a dick swinging match with you or JP or Pie.
I'm saying that somebody in the Democratic party has to call for us to get out of Iraq and we have to support him.
Who's doing this?
Ripley: SWR, you seem to be pushing the point that "we" haven't done enough. So, I'll ask what have You done?
He's done nothing, which is why the trool yammers on about what shoulda/coulda/woulda. Else, there would be boasting, and headlines, and interviews with Paul Gigot!
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Sarah dear, that "you don't know hard work" was part of a running gag involving Tom Cruise.
The Kenosha Kid
Heh. It really is HARD work being a sputtering fool and going nuts on TV every day. Why don't YOU try being Tom Cruise sometime. HARD work indeedy.
SWR: Who's doing this?
Apparently not you, dear leader! Why not?
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Apparently not you, dear leader! Why not?
Sorry but I'm not a major Democratic Party figure. If I were I'd be arguing that we should pull out of Iraq now.
But hey, maybe your strategy is correct. Maybe we should just dodge the question and hope that the latest scandal will bring Bush down.
Yeah. That's the ticket. Let's just keep trying to look moderate and saying we support the troops and can manage Iraq better and hope Plame or Ohio or whatever takes Bush out of office.
i blame bush. i truly hate that mutherfucker. and i do not say that lightly.
and now to bed, as it will surely not be solved here.
charley almost ballistic
The great uniter, GWB. That punk has done nothing but bring out the wosrt in everyone. I detest him. You have a good sleep charley. Peace.
Well, I think that Howard Dean is actually doing some very interesting strategizing, with the old guys like Kennedy and Byrd, and he is waiting to pounce and snipe, perhaps ridiculing their uberpatriot BS with sharp points here and there. I think the press is feeling the strain of not covering this the way they would like to, and that their massive egos may well outweigh the money involved. It will only take one to break the dam, and there certainly are cracks appearing. I mean, they can't all be that confident in this weasly ConnTexan that he won't take the whole game down with him. They must know how angry and disappointed intelligent people have become, what with the Tom Cruise and Michael Jackson and Aruba and Runaway Bride, gimme a break, willya?
Jp, how's the PA's going down? I'm enjoying a cool refreshment right now, matter of fact...
SWR: Sorry but I'm not a major Democratic Party figure.
Funny, that -- me neither!
Maybe you're addressing your browbeating to the wrong forum!
Have you cc'd this to DemHQ?
FUCK NO, YOU HAVEN'T.
Another martyr monkey on another back, but this one has a distinctive superiority complex.
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Sorry but I'm not a major Democratic Party figure. If I were I'd be arguing that we should pull out of Iraq now.
We have had demonstrations here on a regular basis with hundreds of folks showing up to protest everything from cuts in housing funds for the working poor, our shitty air, Justice Sunday, etc. Not a single one was organized by the local or national Dem party. That line of evasion is pure bullshit.
If you are so GD outraged, get your own organization up and running or find a like-minded group to support your protest or just STF up.
Ripley: Jp, how's the PA's going down?
Long gone... and I'm about to follow!
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Funny, that -- me neither!
Maybe you're addressing your browbeating to the wrong forum!
Have you cc'd this to DemHQ?
You're the one who asked me for "my solution" and I gave it to you.
Some major figure in the Democratic Party has to call for an immediate withdrawl from Iraq.
Remember, in Vietnam, how Fulbright did it?
Wategate was in 1973. By 1973, you had already had major Democratic party figures calling for pulling out of Vietnam. You had already had Cronkite come out against it. You had already had an anti-war Democrat run for President.
That's why I'm arguing that it's not realistic to hope that some magic bullet is going to bring Bush down and get us out of Iraq. Plame won't. Ohio won't. Reaching 3000 casualties won't (remember there were 50,000 in Vietnam).
Arguing that Dean or Kennedy or whoever has some magic "secret plan" against the Republicans won't.
Calling me a troll won't.
Not a single one was organized by the local or national Dem party.
Did I say that the Democratic Party should organize demonstrations?
I said they should come out for an immediate withdrawl from Iraq.
ok, cause you can never leave escahton.
just an anecdote, one person, but it illustrates that SWR is a least partially right.
when shock and awe commenced i was on the phone with a make up artist i shoot tests with. i said "oh my god paula, they are bombing the shit out of iraq." she said "good, i hope they kill all the bastards" i could make it a longer story. but the end of it is i never talked with her again, as is the case with my x marine brother who sucked up all the swift liar bullshit.
this is why i hate bush. he has divided america, and i believe he (rove) did it intentionally.
one thing is for sure americans don't like seeing their sons and daughters die for a lost cause. unfortunately too many of them are too stupid to realize it's lost.
worst president ever.
Hey guys, my ENORMOUS apologies re: the "hard work" thing.
I wasn't trying to *dis* anyone at all - I was thinking about Georgie-Porgie talkin' about how it was "hardwork" to be preznit!!!
That's all - Honest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In no way feeling nagative or trying to be adversarial in ANY way!!
walked over and smacked the target with my hand, dunking the guy...
I punched a mime, once..
when shock and awe commenced i was on the phone with a make up artist i shoot tests with. i said "oh my god paula, they are bombing the shit out of iraq." she said "good, i hope they kill all the bastards" i could make it a longer story. but the end of it is i never talked with her again, as is the case with my x marine brother who sucked up all the swift liar bullshit.
Maybe a lot of it depends on who you know and where you work. Maybe some of it depends on chance.
But nobody can argue that even on the left the figures of American casualities are watched carefully. We all know exacly how many American soldiers have been killed.
We all "support the troops" and want to bend over backwards not to be seen as dissing the military.
But most of us (even on the left) don't talk very much about the Iraqis being killed. The media doesn't cover it. We destroyed an entire city (Fallujah) to avenge a couple of mercenaries and most of us don't think about that.
There seems to be more anger here against anybody who throws cold water on the latest "magic bullet" that's going to put Bush out of office than the fact that we're killing people in Iraq.
And there seems to be a real defensiveness about the idea that Americans in general are responsible for this as well as Bush.
Arguing that Dean or Kennedy or whoever has some magic "secret plan" against the Republicans won't.
Brother, if you believe that 150 people in the street, or 150,000 people, will suddenly turn George W. into George the Pious, again, welcome to our fair country. Please to take a bumper sticker and magnet for your automobile unit and drive with much pleasure on our many roads.
Charley, I agree with you. Goes to my point about "needing an enemy". 9/11 changed some stuff and all the rot... Most worthless leader this country has ever seen.
SWR, you receive my highest honor -- Monday Morning Quarterback.
What else show they -- and wee --do, without following your example?
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In no way feeling nagative
Nagative? Sarah, are you making up words? Cuz I like that one... hehehe
But most of us (even on the left) don't talk very much about the Iraqis being killed.
Are you fucking kidding me?!? Go read DailyKos for a few days.
I'm done....
Brother, if you believe that 150 people in the street, or 150,000 people, will suddenly turn George W. into George the Pious, again, welcome to our fair country.
When did I say that?
I said the Democrats have to come out against the war and stop trying to play both sides of the issue.
And I said that big demonstrations against the war will make it easier for whoever that major figure in the Democratic party is to hang on and not back down when he's attacked.
Are you fucking kidding me?!? Go read DailyKos for a few days.
I'm done....
Ripley | Homepage | 07.03.05 - 12:00 am | #
They're also pissed about a soft core porn Gilligan's island sendup.
I'm talking about the major critics of the war in the media. The strategy is pretty clear. Talk about dead American soldiers.
The Iraqis don't count.
So, who wants to talk music? I've put together some, I think, gnarly six packs of music on my homepage. Take a listen, enjoy the soothing sounds, enjoy the freedoms and liberties which we enjoy....
Umm.. scroll down til you see Six Pack, then right click for a new tab/window...
What are you all listening to?
SWR, you receive my highest honor -- Monday Morning Quarterback.
Nope. I was arguing that the Democrats should come out clearly against the war on Saturday night. I thought it would be a disaster for Kerry to run (since he voted for the war) from the very beginning.
Whether or not you think I have the right to criticize the Democratic party for not calling for a withdrawl from Iraq is beside the point. I think I do. You don't think I do.
So what. But Monday morning quarterback? Please.
SWR: Whether or not you think I have the right to criticize the Democratic party for not calling for a withdrawl from Iraq is beside the point. I think I do. You don't think I do.
Criticize whatever the fuck you like. You ask "Why are we still in Iraq, if it isn't a fact that most Americans hate Arabs?" I ask, "Why aren't you a strategist for SOME fucking party, if you're so fucking insightful that you spend your Saturday night here, browbeating all about what THEY have failed to do?"
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"Why aren't you a strategist for SOME fucking party, if you're so fucking insightful that you spend your Saturday night here, browbeating all about what THEY have failed to do?"
I'm amazed that you're more angry about the fact that I've somehow insulted *you* and your great contributations to the anti-war effort than you are about people being killed in Iraq.
As I said, this war isn't hurting you and it's not hurting me and it's not even hurting most Americans.
It's hurting people in Iraq.
And you're statement that if I were any good I'd be advising the DNC or something is just flat out dumb. You're here on a Saturday night too. So that makes us equal. There's no reason to believe that someone in power's idea are more legit than someone not (isn't that what's gotten us into this mess).
As I said, let someone in the Democratic Party call for an immediate withrdawl from Iraq and let's push them to do this instead of hoping that this Plame nonsense is going to knock Bush out of office and spare any of the Democrats the risk of actually taking a fucking stance.
SWR: As I said, let someone in the Democratic Party call for an immediate withrdawl from Iraq and let's push them to do this instead of hoping that this Plame nonsense is going to knock Bush out of office and spare any of the Democrats the risk of actually taking a fucking stance.
Who did you write today? Who are your Democratic reps?
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"nagative"
Ripley...hee hee.....
that would be me in a nutshell!!
"Why are we still in Iraq, if it isn't a fact that most Americans hate Arabs?"
As crude as that sounds, it's true.
Most Americans made a connection between Saddam and 9/11 that they wouldn't have made between say the Italians and Poles and an IRA bombing.
Until recently (or maybe even currently) most Americans believed Saddam was involved in 9/11.
This is a war of racial and religious revenge for 9/11. It's about getting a pound of flesh for the WTC.
That's crude but it's closer to the truth than your "well the American people are totally innocent and it's all Bush" argument.
Yours is simply a copout. Sorry. But it is.
Who did you write today? Who are your Democratic reps?
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Email | Homepage | 07.03.05 - 12:19 am | #
My rep was one of those with Conyers who called for an exist strategy. Both my senators voted against the war.
But I am not interested in a dick swinging contest with you.
The Democratic party isn't calling for a withdrawl. It should be.
Case closed.
Swing your dick and foam at the mouth all you like. You're wrong if you don't think they should.
SWR -- Who did you write today? This week? This month?
What did you organize? Where did you march? What money did you give?
Tell me what to do, even if you'll never do it yourself.
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You guys are taking this too personally, and I don't know why. The Dems have been a huge disappointment for 5 fucking years. They abandoned Bill Clinton, thus losing to this nitwit and his gang of murdering thugs. And now they can't get it together to get together. It's the damn truth. Whether we the people can or should do anything more than we are, the fact remains that our paid, elected congresscritters are only capable of potshots. Howard Dean may very well have a "secret plan", why not? Or, he may be pretty smart and pretty tough. There is nobody else with as little to lose, either. That is a very strong negotiating position, when you've little to lose by saying no, or by giving them Hell in the form of the truth. There's only so much mud they can sling at the truth, and we are starting to see the results in the polls, and I am sure they are very slanted, so we aren't even seeing the real thing, which is much different now than one year ago. They are down to the hard-core, and they can't get anybody back except by doing the right thing, and what's the chance of that? I'll take that bet. Get your reps to support Dean. Get your senators to speak up. Write them letters, and call them, as well as emailing them. I'm stamping and pre-addressing several envelopes for each one. 25 letters about growing a spine will start someone thinking about it. 100 will be a shove. Threatening your vote is very effective, promising monetary support IF they stand up is irresistable. Those are our rights and methods.
SWR: But I am not interested in a dick swinging contest with you.
Oh, I can see that! You're only interested in telling everyone else what should have been done, what needs to be done, what ought to be done.
You certainly do not want to ask, "What have I done/What am I doing/What am I willing to do?"
I can see that. Thanks for your honesty.
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And if we can't put former Special Agent Rowley in office we're really fucked.
What did you organize? Where did you march? What money did you give?
Looking at your blog, I see that you're from a fascist red state.
I'm not.
So can't it be reasonably assumed that I've put my house in order and you haven't?
Isn't your Senator Frist? Didn't he vote for the war?
Why aren't YOU doing more to get him out of office.
But yawn. This dick swinging could go on all night. As I said, it's useless.
You asked me for my opinion on what should be done. I gave it to you.
Concentrate less on the magic bullet and more on making the Democrats come out against the war and for an immediate withdrawl.
You certainly do not want to ask, "What have I done/What am I doing/What am I willing to do?"
No. I don't want to get into a chest beating contest on who's more lefty correct the way you do.
It's tedious.
I gave an opinion. Let me give it again because you seem not to want to see it.
Nothing will come of this Plame leak because of the current mood of the American people. Most are more afraid of Arabs and terrorism than they hate Bush. We have to stop counting on the magic bullet that's going to get Bush out of office and start pushing the Democrats to come out clearly against the war. We have to organize demonstrations supporting them.
That's an opinion. Take it or leave it. Arguing about who's done more is useless. Useless.
SWR: Why aren't YOU doing more to get him out of office.
What can I do, SWR? Other than wait him out (and he's announced his intention to step down in 2006), what can I do?
Please, tell me. I await!
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Please, tell me. I await!
I'm just arguing that if you want to get into a dick swinging contest about who writes more letters to congress you're going to lose.
Both my senators and my rep are against the war.
And yet I still see far too many people around me who laugh at jokes about nuking Iran.
You must have some serious blinders on you if you don't.
SWR: No. I don't want to get into a chest beating contest on who's more lefty correct the way you do.
I know -- you want only to criticize others, with no examination of your role in what you perceive as being wrong.
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SWR: Both my senators and my rep are against the war.
So... how did you manage that, or was it just dumb luck? If the latter, do you still want credit?
Was it your letter writing?
More frequent? More persuasive?
What?
I await. I want to persuade Frist and Alexander. Show me the way.
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I know -- you want only to criticize others, with no examination of your role in what you perceive as being wrong.
I criticized "The American People" of whom I am a part.
What really is your fucking problem.
Are you not getting laid at anti-war demos or something?
Not getting enough credit for your cool sign.
Serious. What's your fucking problem?
The American people (a category I fall into) let Bush take us into war with Iraq. A majority of them believed Saddam was involved in 9/11. This wouldn't have fucking happened if the IRA had bombed New York. We wouldn't have invaded the first Catholic country we could find.
Ergo, one can reasonbly conclude that American hostilty towards Arabs and Muslims is at least partly if not mostly responsible for why we're in Iraq.
YES Bush is a dirtbag and yes he lied. But we had to be open to believing him. And we were.
SWR: YES Bush is a dirtbag and yes he lied. But we had to be open to believing him. And we were.
"We" doesn't include ME in the set. You might have believed him, fine.
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ronjazz...word.
SWR and Jeff...stop this shit, right now.
Or, attack me, and feel better about your arguments. Whatever!!
"We" doesn't include ME in the set. You might have believed him, fine.
I include myself in the group "The American People" and I'm at least partly responsible for what "we" do.
You don't. OK. I'll give you that. You were against the war. Have a cookie. I'm sure some families in Iraq give a flaming fuck about YOU.
Idiot. You remind me of the kind of white person who walks into Central Brooklyn and expects people not to hate him because he's a liberal.
You're an American asshole. You share in the guilt of the American people (as do I).
Sarah Deere -- I just await the Plan. Armchair marshalling, an' all that. I'm just a follower!
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I just await the Plan.
It's really pretty telling.
Even Mr. Big Lefty Correct doesn't want to admit he has any responsibility for the people we've killed in Iraq.
The hostility your spewing here? Imagine that hostility in an American who supported or was at least neutral about the war.
Imagine the defensiveness.
Now think about how difficult it makes it for us to get out.
SWR: You're an American asshole. You share in the guilt of the American people (as do I).
I also shoulder the burden of 1500 years of oppression against gays... 'cause I'm straight! It's a choice, just like being an American!
What would you have me do to right all these wrongs? Let me follow in your (planned or unplanned) footsteps!
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What would you have me do to right all these wrongs?
Come out clearly in favor of gay marriage and stop trying to have it both ways. Pressure whichever Democrat runs for President not to be coy or evasive about the issue.
There. Was that so hard.
I also shoulder the burden of 1500 years of oppression against gays...
2005 - 1500 = 505?
What happeneed then? Some early Church father turn Christianit against gays or something?
Why 1500 years and not say 2000 or 500 or 3000?
SWR: Come out clearly in favor of gay marriage and stop trying to have it both ways. Pressure whichever Democrat runs for President not to be coy or evasive about the issue.
There. Was that so hard.
Not at all, as I did that! Now what?
Do it again?
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SWR: Why 1500 years and not say 2000 or 500 or 3000?
You'd have to ask Incog -- that was his figure. I just took his word for it (as well as his voodun curse; you aren't going to curse me, are you?).
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Not at all, as I did that! Now what?
Do it again?
So you're saying that you now have no responsibilty for the oppression of gays?
And you're saying that if you write enough letters, you bear no responsibilty for Iraq?
Or hey, since my family's mostly Polish and German immigrants who came to the US after the Civil War I bear no responsibilty for racism, right?
I'm sick of you you stupid fucking shit. You're a narcisstic fool.
Don't bother responding. I'll be asleep. Idiot.
SWR: Don't bother responding. I'll be asleep. Idiot.
"God grant me the serenity..." and some other happy horseshit that ends with "... until some smart mutherfucker comes along telling me how to fix all the shit, even if they're not bothering to roll up their shirtsleeves."
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Hell, the sins of the father continue on and on, for generation after generation, until some smart mutherfucker comes along and tells us how to be cleansed!
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SWR...I believe (perhaps foolishly) that most people want to do good.
I hope this calms your soul - and, pls believe me, I mean no disrespect, nor do I intend in any way to be condescending!
G'night moonbats. What fine Children of the Night and Day!!!) you are .
Thanks so very much.
SWR: So you're saying that you now have no responsibilty for the oppression of gays?
I'm saying I have no blame, as I do not oppress them -- quite the opposite. I do not accept the Collective Guilt of the Ages for those who are not ME, who acted in ways I did not, and would not, act.
And you're saying that if you write enough letters, you bear no responsibilty for Iraq?
No, I'm saying that I didn't EVER support the invasion of Iraq, was never in any position to personally STOP the invasion of Iraq, and unless you want to take Osama bin Laden's perspective that I am responsible, seeing as how I am a (reluctant) U.S. taxpayer, I do not feel that I bear any responsibility for it, at all. Feel free to explain how wrongheaded that is, please.
Or hey, since my family's mostly Polish and German immigrants who came to the US after the Civil War I bear no responsibilty for racism, right?
Hell, I dunno. Are you -- YOU -- a racist? I don't give a fuck about what your family's done. Are you willing to hang on the cross for the sins of your forefathers? Why? That's not what I call healthy guilt.
Either YOU are guilty, or you're carrying someone else's guilt, but if the latter, it's by choice, and not a healthy one, IMO.
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Btw, being not guilty is also a legit choice in that last para, but since you brought it up, I assumed you felt some responsibility for historic racism, even if you, personally were not involved in any racist acts. I guess this is by virtue of your being born into a certain race...? I dunno. I'm askin'.
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I just want SWR to tell me: How much is enough? Must I shoot Fred Phelps, or David Duke, in order to cleanse my inherited guilt, or am I just damned, owning to my white heterosexuality via guilt-by-birthright?
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I guess if I'd have simply chosen to be born gay, black and somewhere-other-than-America, I'd have another set of martyrs pushing some other set of collective, inherited guilt on me, eh?
I'd call "bullshit" on them, too!
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Then again, I wouldn't be telling everyone, vaguely, that they weren't doing enough, unless I were leading by example. I'm funny that way.
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Jeffraham - I'm not sure who wins an argument with oneself. Don't let this SWR get to you too much. His posts in this thread ooze hostility and narcissism, which was why I wasn't surprised to see him projecting it onto you.
Assuming he's sincere, he apparently thinks that by including himself in his vitriol it's ok to attack others. And that the best way to convince others to shoulder their share of our collective responsibility is to browbeat, bully, and insult them. I'm sure he's posted here before- there's a familiar feel to his particular seethings.
The sad part is, based on the interpersonal skills on display here I would guess he is singularly ineffective at persuading others that he has a better way they should follow. He wants us all to own up to our intolerance toward other cultures and oppressed minorities, but he seems unaware that his behavior betrays an inability to tolerate anyone here who believes differently than he does. It really is sad.
I imagine he gets frustrated with the fact that nobody around him really appreciates him. Regardless of the extent to which I agree with his politics, I know I wouldn't want to have to talk to him at any length. Or be stuck in an elevator with him.
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