that bastard better hang on till indictment.
charley |
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07.16.05 - 4:52 pm | #
ror --
that is a seriously adorable
kitty kat.
steve simels |
07.16.05 - 4:52 pm | #
Guess my kitten's name! Hint: The kitten hates hegemony.
rorschach |
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07.16.05 - 4:52 pm | #
Oh yeah? Well, Clinton got a bj! so there!
oops, forgot to breathe again.
The Original RC Richards Parod |
07.16.05 - 4:52 pm | #
yes, but do you have one of these? -->
wÒÓ†
Sure, right over here -->
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QuentinCompson |
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07.16.05 - 4:53 pm | #
So, who's gunna flip the coin to bait Richards downstairs?
I'm on vacation you know...
Ba®ndog |
07.16.05 - 4:53 pm | #
I'm sick of watching the Honor Roll at the end of the Jim Lehrer NewsHour.
19. 22. 21. 22. Oh, look, that Staff Sergeant is a ripe old 32. 19. 26. Hey, look, they got a Lt. Colonel - looks like some kind of doctor or engineer. Plenty of those around. 22.
And another eight the next night.
joe |
07.16.05 - 4:53 pm | #
Sure, right here -->
QuentinCompson
That one's clearly mine. You should get your own.
wÒÓ† |
07.16.05 - 4:53 pm | #
I wonder if they'll be any moments of silence in the USA over this.
You can bet there'll be one in the White House. It'll probably last all day . . . all week . . . all month . . ..
Big Daddy Mars |
07.16.05 - 4:54 pm | #
What up, non-stop party peoples?
.
Jeffraham Prestonian |
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07.16.05 - 4:54 pm | #
If the cola guy comes upstairs, I think it would be best to put him in time out and ignore is inane comments.
mer |
07.16.05 - 4:54 pm | #
I love thread soup. Especially with freshly ground black pepper and sea salt.
mike in pr |
07.16.05 - 4:54 pm | #
I wonder if they'll be any moments of silence in the USA over this.
of course not. just a bunch of dead hadjis.
Now dead Londoners - they're white (or at least honorary "white guys") so we can feel bad about them getting killed.
Pere Ubu |
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07.16.05 - 4:55 pm | #
SWR, those are brown skinned people with a funny religion.
come to think about it i didn't notice too much sympathy for the brits. everyone is a pawn in the neo con game, and the rightards will to power.
charley |
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07.16.05 - 4:55 pm | #
Thank you, steve!
A friend who has fostered about a hundred just could not get over him. He is just that adorable. And he sleeps right now upon my ankle tattoo.
rorschach |
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07.16.05 - 4:55 pm | #
Sure, right here -->
QuentinCompson
I got yer -->
and raise you a ~~~~~~>
agave, transcendental texan |
07.16.05 - 4:55 pm | #
I'm a little teapot, short and thick.
Here is my handle, here is my dick.
R.C. Richards |
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07.16.05 - 4:55 pm | #
Thread soup again?
And some more Hedberg: "I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." And one of my favorites: "I like vending machines, because snacks are better when they fall."
Charlotte Smith (nee Beavers) |
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07.16.05 - 4:56 pm | #
come to think about it i didn't notice too much sympathy for the brits. everyone is a pawn in the neo con game
The NYC tabloids were running individual stories about the victims in London.
Note. I'm not saying this is bad. On the contrary, it's the right thing to do.
But if they did it about Iraqi victims, they wouldn't have enough room.
One death is a tragedy. A million is a statistic.
SWR |
07.16.05 - 4:57 pm | #
ror:
the blues eye are astounding.
I've never
seen a cat like that before...
steve simels |
07.16.05 - 4:57 pm | #
Well Thomas Friedman is on CSPAN and a documentary on the Olsen twins is in E! I can't decide which one to watch. Life is so fucking difficult.
spinoza |
07.16.05 - 4:58 pm | #
Well Thomas Friedman is on CSPAN and a documentary on the Olsen twins is in E! I can't decide which one to watch. Life is so fucking difficult.
The one on the Olsens is probably the most bullshit-free of the two.
Big Daddy Mars |
07.16.05 - 4:58 pm | #
I'm a little teapot, short and thick.
Here is my handle, here is my dick.
R.C. Richards
He's just that magnanimous.
rorschach |
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07.16.05 - 5:05 pm | #
One death is a tragedy. A million is a statistic.
SWR
well my point was that on the day of the bombing we had right wing fuckwits like sen. mccain saying "this proves we need to fight "them" in iraq. which is inane. not to mention very insensitive.
i guess the death toll won't go as high as it did in veitnam, but this ain't veitnam, and iraq has ensured that we will be seeing random acts of terrorism for the rest of our lives.
charley |
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07.16.05 - 5:05 pm | #
Here are the photos of Arthur with: (1), (2)
the very nice dirt that Kent sent as a special olfactory treat and the exceptionally jolly canvas dolly that he loves very much. Shaded under the beginning leaves of the then new Chinese pistache and near the baby sized watermelon vines. And a bonus shot of a recumbent Orange Ball.
GWPDA, Irate Scholar |
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07.16.05 - 5:05 pm | #
rethugs heart the VA:
WASHINGTON - Fellow Republicans warned House Speaker Dennis Hastert and Majority Leader Tom DeLay more than a year ago that the government would come up short — by at least $750 million — for veterans' health care. The leaders' response: Fire the messengers.
Now that the Bush administration has acknowledged a shortfall of at least $1.2 billion, embarrassed Republicans are scrambling to fill the gap. Meanwhile, Democrats portray the problem as another example of the GOP and the White House taking a shortsighted approach to the cost of wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and criticize their commitment to the troops. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/
20050...HNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
Will the "liberal media" track down rethugs all over the country and ask them if they think shorting the VA is helping them and their party? No.
Will the "liberal media" track dems that were all over this shortfall for 2 years and ask them if they think rethugs shorting the VA proves that rethugs don't care about vetrans? No.
Murray, Byrd and several other dems were all over the VA short fall:
(WASHINGTON, D.C.) – Today, following her heated questioning of VA Secretary Jim Nicholson about why his agency is “unexpectedly” facing a $1 billion budget shortfall, Senator Patty Murray (D-Wash.) spoke on the floor of the Senate to introduce her amendment to provide $1.42 billion to fix the problem. Murray, who introduced the amendment with Senator Robert C. Byrd (D-WV), tried three times to increase funding for the VA within both the budget and Emergency War Supplemental, but her efforts were rejected on party-line votes. http://murray.senate.gov/news.cf...s.cfm?
id=239726
Ask a ma and pa kettle near you if they have any idea about rethugs shorting the VA by more than $2 billon.
From AP:
Summary: GOP Ignored Warnings on Veterans
The House refused to provide more money. Two of the congressmen who sounded the alarm were pulled from their committee chairmanships. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/congr...HBhBHNlYwM5NjQ-
The AP mentions nothing about dems predicting the shortfalls last year. Murray and others have had numerous press conferences and releases and "liberal media" would not cover them.
This bullshit does not stop until we stop it.
Op Truth has a great ad they want to run: http://www.optruth.org
hadenough |
07.16.05 - 5:08 pm | #
well my point was that on the day of the bombing we had right wing fuckwits like sen. mccain saying "this proves we need to fight "them" in iraq.
That's a bit like some fratboy's dad saying his has to "sow some wild oats" with some white trash townie girl before he settles down and gets married to someone from his own class.
Or maybe it's like dumping the toxic waste in West Virginia so we don't have to fight it in Connecticut.
SWR |
07.16.05 - 5:08 pm | #
crisis of feith
did you hear al franken's oy-oy-oy ahow on friday?
Katherine: something about feith
Franken: that bastard!
Katherine: something about feith
Franken: that bastard!
Katherine: something about feith
Franken: that bastard!
Katherine: Al, this is the Oy-oy-oy show, not the "that bastard show!"
Franken: Not today. Douglas Feith is a bastard
shbinga |
07.16.05 - 5:08 pm | #
Just started reading "Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince". I burst out laughing when the narrative describes the Prime Minister not looking forward to a phone call from a president from another country who is descrbed as a "wretched man". Who could that be I wonder?
bruce from chicago |
07.16.05 - 5:09 pm | #
By BRIAN MURPHY
AP Religion Writer
LEEDS, England
Amear Ali remembers how the film images clicked by in rapid-fire sequence to a soundtrack of pounding drums: dead Iraqi children, Palestinians under siege, Guantanamo prisoners, snippets of President Bush repeating the word "crusade."
"You could see how it could turn someone to raw hate," said Ali, recalling his brush last year with the hard-edged marketing of extremism at an Islamic bookstore operated by his brother-in-law. "It even started working on me. Then I said to myself, `Get out. This stuff is poison.'"
The shop was drawn deeper Saturday into the international investigation of the July 7 London bombings, and Ali's introductions into the militant messages could help explain the possible recruitment tactics used in the neighborhood where the suicide mission apparently took shape.
Go figure, the left is blaming Bush for what some sub-human monkey is doing to recruit terrorists.
R.C. Richards |
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07.16.05 - 5:12 pm | #
"A suicide bomber detonated his explosives near a propane fuel tanker parked near a gas station south of Baghdad Saturday evening, killing at least 60 and wounding as many as 100 people, police sources said." --cnn.com
O my god, what have we done?
mer |
07.16.05 - 5:12 pm | #
I thought Drinky Bush was a subhuman monkey.
Pere Ubu |
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07.16.05 - 5:15 pm | #
Shit, they have subhuman monkeys (as opposed to the other kind) on their side now!
The subhuman ones you can understand--it's the human monkeys--like a certain Preznit--that are the real problem.
Big Daddy Mars |
07.16.05 - 5:16 pm | #
Good News from the Green Zone.
Friendly Fire | Email | Homepage | 07.16.05 - 5:13 pm | #
This and the "dissent.blogspot" idiot are starting to annoy me.
I haven't used a Hosts file in awhile. I'm assuming that blogger doesn't give individual IPs to every member. But I guess it's also possible to redirect "blogwhore.blogspot" back to Yahoo or something.
SWR |
07.16.05 - 5:16 pm | #
has anyone else noticed the increasingly large numbers of pro-theofascist stories on cnn (comic news network?)
yesterday they had a little deal about the new harry potter book. fair and balanced - one side was an xian who thought potter could lead to bad things. on the other side, an xian who didn't think it was that bad. boy, i was happy to hear both of those viewpoints so i could make up my own mind.
shbinga |
07.16.05 - 5:16 pm | #
friggin' HTML tags.
I blame Rove.
Pere Ubu |
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07.16.05 - 5:17 pm | #
the blues eye are astounding.
I thought it was a trick of the camera flash.
Atr its eyes really blue?
Not a trick. Very blue.
Guess his name!
He hates hegemony. That's a hint.
rorschach |
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07.16.05 - 5:17 pm | #
Shaw
with lots & lots of good crusty bread to sop up the juices.
Just so long as the terrorists don't get superhuman monkeys. Because that could be very bad.
animus |
07.16.05 - 5:18 pm | #
Robert Graves once said, To be a poet is a condition rather than a profession.... "the poets are the antenna of our race."
Gulf War II
Do you avenge the Israelites
Turning Babylon to ash?
Will you take the treasure of the land,
Filling the coffers of your clan
With Gaia’s bitter blackened tears?
She weeps for her children
As their blood bathes your gold
Spend their life
And spin your yarn
Time’s pendulum swings an arc,
Slow and wide
Now, your way, rejoice.
Sooner than you know,
It swings back upon itself
Reclaiming what is spent
Recall great kingdoms there before
Look in your mirror, ye mighty,
And despair
I wrote this early in 2003 ....
grmithal |
07.16.05 - 5:18 pm | #
You know who is really too
stupid to engage.
In fact, he's so stupid I withdraw
my invitation for him to blow me
already (again).
First time wasn't so great,
actually.
steve simels |
07.16.05 - 5:18 pm | #
Wanna buy a monkey?
Eli |
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07.16.05 - 5:18 pm | #
Have Judith Miller and Large Marge gotten acquainted yet?
In an interview with the Washington Post, Douglas Feith said too few troops may have been deployed to invade Iraq."
Damnit, there are no oops or mulligans in war. We told these fuckwits they were wrong and they sneered at us and called us unpatriotic. Read see homepage
Friendly Fire | Email | Homepage | 07.16.05 - 5:00 pm | # , it is enough to make you vomit.
On a lighter note.
I bet those of us on the left are not the only ones who wouldn't be sorry if Cheney keels over. If he goes the criminals in the WH have the perfect scapegoat. Or for that matter, anyone of them. I bet they are real careful to turn on their burglar alarms at night. Sweet dreams, assholes.
QL in NY |
07.16.05 - 5:19 pm | #
Wanna buy a monkey?
Eli | Email | Homepage | 07.16.05 - 5:18 pm | #
Eli. I'm surprised you haven't riffed on the Mike Meyers Dieter TOUCH MY MONKEY joke yet.
SWR |
07.16.05 - 5:19 pm | #
I'm sick of watching the Honor Roll at the end of the Jim Lehrer NewsHour.
Only the Left sheds tears for terrorists. We on the Right honor and cherish the dedicated volk who serve us all in the name of Freedom. Jim Lehrer reminds us that Freedom is not Free.
R. C. Richards |
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07.16.05 - 5:19 pm | #
Shaw
with lots & lots of good crusty bread to sop up the juices.
Don't think so....I remember you
posting something about an Archie
parody that got banned, though...
steve simels |
07.16.05 - 5:22 pm | #
After all the violence and double talk,
There's a song in the trouble and the strife,
Karl does the walk,
Does the walk of perps,
Yeah, the walk of perps . .
Sing it for us, RC!
Dickie Roberts |
07.16.05 - 5:22 pm | #
What can I say? Letterman saying "monkey" is funnier than Dieter saying it. Who knew?
I've got "Die Hard" playing in the background.
I keep thinking Alan Rickman is going to scream TOUCH MY MONKEY at Bruce Willis.
SWR |
07.16.05 - 5:22 pm | #
Shaw Kenawe
Sounds yum
Do you know if this is true?
Sea Scallops are really made from Sole or Flounder, punched out with a cookie cutter thing.
“And though this world, with hot dogs filled,
Should eaten to undo us;
We will not fear, for God hath willed
His hot dogs to triumph through us.”
or...
“And though this world, with mussels and sun dried tomatoes filled,
Should eaten to undo us;
We will not fear, for God hath willed
His mussels with sun dried tomatoes to triumph through us.”
Shaw Kenawe |
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07.16.05 - 5:25 pm | #
Well, being a libertarian I do know "freedom" is indeed free. But lap-dances aren't, and that's a pity.
You should join *my* party - the lapertarians.
Eli |
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07.16.05 - 5:25 pm | #
ror:
He hates hegemony?
Haven't got a clue.....
steve simels |
07.16.05 - 5:25 pm | #
A mighty hot dog is our Lord..
I relish your religion.
spinoza |
07.16.05 - 5:25 pm | #
harry potter: bad.
torturing 11 year old Iraquis: good.
ah, chrisian america. gotta luv em.
earl in toronto |
07.16.05 - 5:25 pm | #
The VA has been getting the shit end of the stick under the Repugs for literally decades. I remember a friend of my brother's at med school in the good ol' Reagan 80's who was going to be an Army surgeon, describing how he had seen operations that had to be performed under Coleman lanterns at the VA hospital in Augusta, GA, because the funds to fix even basic equipment like lights weren't there.
Remember this the next time you see an SUV with a W sticker next to a Support the Troops magnet.
Doc |
07.16.05 - 5:25 pm | #
hope your right, bdm. it's depressing to think someone could actually be that stupid, callous and evil.
I've had five years to become accustomed to the idea.
Eli |
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07.16.05 - 5:25 pm | #
A mighty hot dog is our Lord...
Shoes for Industry, comrade!
Pere Ubu |
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07.16.05 - 5:26 pm | #
A former CIA covert agent who supervised Mrs. Plame early in her career yesterday took issue with her identification as an "undercover agent," saying that she worked for more than five years at the agency's headquarters in Langley and that most of her neighbors and friends knew that she was a CIA employee. "She made no bones about the fact that she was an agency employee and her husband was a diplomat," Fred Rustmann, a covert agent from 1966 to 1990, told The Washington Times.
"Her neighbors knew this, her friends knew this, his friends knew this. A lot of blame could be put on to central cover staff and the agency because they weren't minding the store here. ... The agency never changed her cover status."
In addition, Mrs. Plame hadn't been out as an NOC since 1997, when she returned from her last assignment, married Mr. Wilson and had twins, USA Today reported yesterday. The distinction matters because a law that forbids disclosing the name of undercover CIA operatives applies to agents that had been on overseas assignment "within the last five years."
d'oh! |
07.16.05 - 5:26 pm | #
My favorite Feith quote was when he told the New Yorker that Iraqis may have been too frightened of Baathists to strew flowers in the path of coalition liberators but "they had flowers in their minds." What more does one need to know about the man?
cs |
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07.16.05 - 5:26 pm | #
also italian prisons.
rorschach |
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07.16.05 - 5:26 pm | #
...I remember you
posting something about an Archie
parody that got banned, though...
Yeah, "Goodman Goes Playboy" was a parody of the Playboy Philosophy featuring the cast of Archie. Kurtzman and Elder wound up getting their asses sued off (personally!) and reprinting the story was prohibited as part of the settlement. They talk about it in the "Goodman Beaver" collection Kitchen Sink released in the late 80s.
Well, being a libertarian I do know "freedom" is indeed free.
I've never quite got that quote.
They're not saying "we have to make sacrifices for freedom".
They're saying "we have to be willing to go out and kill innocent people in the third world" for freedom.
Wouldn't it be more accurate for them to say "Freedom's great when you kill people in it's name but it sucks when you actually use it"?
SWR |
07.16.05 - 5:26 pm | #
Remember this the next time you see an SUV with a W sticker next to a Support the Troops magnet.
I'm tellin' ya, it only applies to *current* troops.
Eli |
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07.16.05 - 5:27 pm | #
Remember this the next time you see an SUV with a W sticker next to a Support the Troops magnet
and dont forget your keys either
pretzelattack |
07.16.05 - 5:27 pm | #
rorschach--now I have "kitten lust."
You're lucky.
Sweet Sue
Fellow Republicans warned House Speaker Dennis Hastert and Majority Leader Tom DeLay more than a year ago that the government would come up short — by at least $750 million — for veterans' health care. The leaders' response: Fire the messengers. makes for a hell of an opening paragraph, yes?
Archibald Tuttle |
07.16.05 - 5:28 pm | #
Jim Lehrer reminds us that Freedom is not Free.
It costs the lives of anyone who is not me.
Or my child.
By the way, what "freedom" are they securing for us? Freedom to use as much oil as we can get our hands on? Freedom to subvert foreign governments and invade other countries on a whim? So far as I know, "terrorists" have a political agenda that amounts to: "Leave us the hell alone!" Which ain't exactly the lebensraum Hitler was looking for.
Seems to me they're criminals, IOW, and should be treated as same. We don't send soldiers to die in foreign countries for our "freedom from crime." We use police to investigate and arrest the criminals.
So what does "freedom not being free" have to do with terrorism?
Rmj, Wandering Aengus |
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07.16.05 - 5:28 pm | #
Anyway, everyone watchout for this "Westchesta Molesta" they keep mentioning on the news. He'll getcha!
Chris Goulian |
07.16.05 - 5:29 pm | #
Sea Scallops are really made from Sole or Flounder, punched out with a cookie cutter thing.
sometimes, but usually not. especially not if you live in New England, or on cetain parts of the west coast. sea versus bay scallops are really just tidal variations of size that effect the kind of body meat produced, (like with clams: little necks, cherry stones, quahogs, steamers)
hope your right, bdm. it's depressing to think someone could actually be that stupid, callous and evil.
I'm hoping it's true as well. Problem is, I do know someone who has this very mindset. Crazy fucker, he is. Didn't used to be this bad until The Boy King was anointed, and then he just went completely batshit crazy. Now every thing is the fault of the "librils", and we just won't let poor Mista Bush do what he needs to do to clean the world up.
Yeah, you just gotta hope . . ..
Big Daddy Mars |
07.16.05 - 5:29 pm | #
Ignore these fool trolls. Don't give them any pleasure as there world crumbles around them in shame and degradation. And prison.
Wouldn't it be more accurate for them to say "Freedom's great when you kill people in it's name but it sucks when you actually use it"?
probably more accurate, but would skew poorly in the focus groups.
Pere Ubu |
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07.16.05 - 5:29 pm | #
My favorite Feith quote was when he told the New Yorker that Iraqis may have been too frightened of Baathists to strew flowers in the path of coalition liberators but "they had flowers in their minds." What more does one need to know about the man?
sounds like the classic PSYCHO stalker.. 'You don't want to see me? But you have flowers for me in your mind. YOU HAVE FLOWERS FOR ME IN YOUR MIND.
earl in toronto |
07.16.05 - 5:29 pm | #
You Dems seem to think that Karl Rove is the entree to possibly impeach Bush (and that is the ultimate goal here). They're angry because their desire for an independent counsel --- something they loved for Reagan and Bush, hated for Clinton, love for Bush II (but, no, the Liberal Media doesn't have an agenda. Don't be silly) --- backfired and led to journalists being imprisoned.
It's even more ironic since we KNOW Karl Rove gave Judith Miller his permission to discuss anything they discussed on this issue and the NY Times had her refuse --- which means that, most likely, Rove WASN'T THE MAIN SOURCE OF THE STORY.
Rove wasn't even a remotely tertiary source. He's just the bogeyman the press wants to crucify because one of their own is being thrust upon the patard created by the press.
Let's face a few facts:
1) No law was broken, whatsoever. The woman who WROTE the law (Victoria Toensing) has said the law was not broken and, odds are, she knows more about it than the media.
2) Since the reporters have Rove's permission to talk, he isn't the primary source. Not least of which, the press would NEVER keep anything incriminating about him quiet. Something would have leaked out more damaging than the emails (which only show that Rove didn't know her name nor did he have clearance to read Wilson's report. He simply told Cooper to not go over the edge covering Wilson's story as it didn't hold up)
Rove DID see George Tenet's statement before George issued it and saw how much it undercut most of Wilson's story. He gave Time a friendly warning.
Rove didn't know she was ever an agent (he didn't have access to that info) and didn't read Wilson's report (or else he would have utterly undressed Wilson's op-ed).
The person who "outed" Plame was not Rove. Odds are, it was another reporter, as her working for the CIA was as big a secret in Washington as Santa Claus not actually existing.
3) The more the press plays this, the more it'll end up backfiring. The press is so screwed here it is not comical. No harm will come to Rove because he didn't actually do anything. Bush is spotless here.
BUT, the press is neck-deep. The reporters know who told them everything and they aren't talking. Which means that the sources aren't on "their side" (Rove's attorney has pointed out that Cooper's article actually completely mischaracterizes what Rove actually told him). In fact, as Luskin pointed out, Rove didn't call Cooper (it was vice versa) and the conversation dealt with welfare reform for the most part.
Not exactly a campaign to out anybody.
In fact, the conservative contingent is in no apparent danger whatsoever. Novak has already testified and isn't even in the crosshairs. Rove has given all reporters permission to speak. But the only people in legal hot water are the reporters, not any political figures.
4) Valerie Plame's actual standing as a covert agent is shaky. Agents undercover don't often have deskjobs at Langley. She may have been once, but there is zero evidence she was one at the time of the "leak".
And her posing for pictures in Vanity Fair did more to make her public than anything else.
R.C. Richards |
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07.16.05 - 5:29 pm | #
Hey, d'oh:
I actually know that Rustmann guy quoted in your "article."
He never worked for the CIA. He's batshit crazy and was even institutionalized by his wife for awhile. He once told us that he was abducted by an alien spaceship that was piloted by Ed Sullivan.
So, nice try . . .
Dickie Roberts |
07.16.05 - 5:30 pm | #
Sarah
Does he really have a food taster. I never heard that before.
Sweet baby jesus. Do we have Caligula in charge?
QL in NY |
07.16.05 - 5:30 pm | #
Man, it's like troll-a-palooza today. Especially on the al-Qaida/Saddam thread. Sheesh, I gotta shower.
optimus prime |
07.16.05 - 5:32 pm | #
Dear Angelina Jolie,
You have flowers for me in your mind. I can feel it. I know we were meant to be together. Forever and ever.
mr. feith
earl in toronto |
07.16.05 - 5:33 pm | #
Hey R.C.!
Do you like mussels?
Shaw Kenawe |
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07.16.05 - 5:33 pm | #
So as not to be confused with Archibald Tuttle, after this post I will be known as Marchbleed (my online poker name).
We now rejoin your thead in progress...
Archibald |
07.16.05 - 5:33 pm | #
BTW, the "volk" part . . . yer parody's showin'.
d'oh!
Rove DID see George Tenet's statement before George issued it and saw how much it undercut most of Wilson's story. He gave Time a friendly warning.
1984 is a parable, not a training manual. the Legion of Substitute Trolls is producing a better breed of bot each and every day.
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari |
07.16.05 - 5:34 pm | #
He never worked for the CIA. He's batshit crazy and was even institutionalized by his wife for awhile. He once told us that he was abducted by an alien spaceship that was piloted by Ed Sullivan.
sorry to disagree but anybody in the loop knew that ed sullivan was only the navigator on EXT. Ship 2005 not the pilot.
earl in toronto |
07.16.05 - 5:34 pm | #
BTW, I remember that Kitchen
Sink anthology, but alas I never
bought it (I looked at it
lustfully on the shelf at
Forbidden Planet).
Do you know if any of the stuff
is still in print?
steve simels |
07.16.05 - 5:35 pm | #
My favorite Feith quote was when he told the New Yorker that Iraqis may have been too frightened of Baathists to strew flowers in the path of coalition liberators but "they had flowers in their minds."
I read that one. Jeffrey Goldberg is the master at making silly fanatics say dumb things.
The only thing I wish he would have done was ask Feith directly if he were in favor of invading Iran.
SWR |
07.16.05 - 5:35 pm | #
Relax Zoey, I only lust in my heart.
Sweet Sue |
07.16.05 - 5:35 pm | #
A former CIA covert agent who supervised Mrs. Plame early in her career yesterday took issue with her identification as an "undercover agent," saying that she worked for more than five years at the agency's headquarters in Langley and that most of her neighbors and friends knew that she was a CIA employee. "She made no bones about the fact that she was an agency employee and her husband was a diplomat," Fred Rustmann, a covert agent from 1966 to 1990, told The Washington Times.
"Her neighbors knew this, her friends knew this, his friends knew this. A lot of blame could be put on to central cover staff and the agency because they weren't minding the store here. ... The agency never changed her cover status."
Yes, that's right, the CIA asked the Justice Department to investigate the outing of a covert CIA agent who wasn't a covert CIA Agent.
Ye gods, I guess it's impossible to reason with idiots who cheered the investigation of a President who got blowjobs in the white house.
Go ahead, believe whatever you want. I will wait and see what Mr. Fitzgerald (Fitzpatrick?) comes up with. Listen to your Preznit, fuckwads, and don't "prejudge the investigation," or you'll end up looking...well, I guess you can't look any stupider than you already do.
commie atheist |
07.16.05 - 5:35 pm | #
R.C. -- did you know putting a plastic bag over your head will speed up freedom and democracy in Iraq?
Try it, and remind all your republican freinds to do the same. The more plastic bags, the sooner those little Iraqi kids can fly kites and watch Disney videos!
Pere Ubu |
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07.16.05 - 5:35 pm | #
They're still dragging their dead talking points in here, like they're actually participating in the debate.
Yet, in the continuing assault on former Ambassador Wilson, Bush’s political allies seem to be testing the limits of how far they can lure Americans into a parallel universe where Bush and his White House team are always beyond reproach.
Rather than finally accept that some senior officials in the White House may have acted improperly two years ago in divulging the identity of Wilson’s wife as a covert CIA officer, the Republican attack machine has stayed on the offensive.
“The angry Left is trying to smear” Rove, declared Republican National Chairman Ken Mehlman, even as White House officials refused to answer questions by citing an “ongoing investigation.” [Washington Post, July 13, 2005]
So Rove – famous for his smear campaigns against George W. Bush’s opponents from Texas Gov. Ann Richards to Arizona Sen. John McCain – is being reinvented as a blameless victim.
Recent history also is being turned on its head. What should be clear by this point is that the Bush administration was determined in 2002 to construct a case for invading Iraq regardless of the evidence and was using weapons of mass destruction as the hot button that was sure to terrify the American people.
According to the infamous Downing Street Memo on July 23, 2002, Richard Dearlove, chief of the British intelligence agency MI6, described his discussions with Bush’s National Security Council officials.
“Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy,” Dearlove said.
The memo added, “It seemed clear that Bush had made up his mind to take military action, even if the timing was not yet decided. But the case was thin. Saddam was not threatening his neighbours, and his WMD capability was less than that of Libya, North Korea or Iran.”
Shaw Kenawe |
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07.16.05 - 5:37 pm | #
the CIA asked the Justice Department to investigate the outing of a covert CIA agent who wasn't a covert CIA Agent.
The CIA doesn't get to decide who is covert and who isn't when it comes to a law with conditions for being covert.
Read this again:
No law was broken, whatsoever. The woman who WROTE the law (Victoria Toensing) has said the law was not broken and, odds are, she knows more about it than the media.
R.C. Richards |
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07.16.05 - 5:37 pm | #
Yes, it's a vice, dammit. It's a solitary vice and he thought it up all by himself, but he's a farm dog after all - it's only reasonable that his vicery would involve the land.
GWPDA, Irate Scholar |
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07.16.05 - 5:37 pm | #
Crazy fucker, he is. Didn't used to be this bad until The Boy King was anointed, and then he just went completely batshit crazy.
wow, that's what they say about me.
but i've always been sort of a pissed off individual.
charley |
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07.16.05 - 5:37 pm | #
Go ahead, believe whatever you want. I will wait and see what Mr. Fitzgerald (Fitzpatrick?) comes up with. Listen to your Preznit, fuckwads, and don't "prejudge the investigation," or you'll end up looking...well, I guess you can't look any stupider than you already do.
Remember, two weeks ago the official line on all the right-wing blogs was that Rove wasn't involved in the Plame leak in any way, shape or form and it was simply an outburst by Lawrence O'Donnell.
Now they've revised their spin.
SWR |
07.16.05 - 5:37 pm | #
Ray Bradbury on c-span2/BookTV, from April this year.
QuentinCompson |
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07.16.05 - 5:38 pm | #
hmmm ed sullivan always did look pretty strange, kinda like jack webb with a veneer of charm. they both had this stiff look like they had segmented bodies or something.
pretzelattack |
07.16.05 - 5:38 pm | #
Victoria Toensing is a fucking Repuklican operative. And ragingly partisan.
They're still dragging their dead talking points in here, like they're actually participating in the debate.
it's rather like they DID put 4,000,000 volts through that dead parrot, and are convinced ANY SECOND NOW it absolutely WILL go "VOOM!!"
Pere Ubu |
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07.16.05 - 5:38 pm | #
"The CIA doesn't get to decide who is covert and who isn't when it comes to a law with conditions for being covert."
LOL!
OK, RC is offically a parody here.
Dickie Roberts |
07.16.05 - 5:38 pm | #
Victoria Toensing is a fucking Repuklican operative. And ragingly partisan.
Yeah, she wouldn't know the law SHE WROTE
Only fanatics who hate the President know the law.
And this Plame investigation will destroy the foundations of the Liberal Media and allow for a more impartial media to be founded.
R.C. Richards |
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07.16.05 - 5:39 pm | #
The woman who WROTE the law (Victoria Toensing) has said the law was not broken and, odds are, she knows more about it than the media.
Patrick Fitzgerald and the judges seem to have a different opinion.
Sorry, little fellow, but there is only one fact that matters: This is a criminal case, and all of the spin, twisted quotes, and outright Republican lies your noise machine can gin up won't affect the outcome.
The most salient lesson from this whole sorry episode is that Republicans practically across the board place the political well-being of their party ahead of the national security of their country.
Doc |
07.16.05 - 5:40 pm | #
QL,
"Bush arrived with a protection squad of nearly 700 to bolster the 5,000 British boots on the ground, 100 journalists, a personal chef, a food taster, four cooks, medics and a 15-strong sniffer dog team. Special agents and snipers were ordered to "shoot to kill" protesters who got out of line. The giant windmills in London whirled so threateningly that Bush and his journalists were in virtual lockdown at Buckingham, which is probably why there were no "public interest" articles written about this fiasco. When the Blackhawks finally whisked them away, the Queen's prized, century-old rose garden was stomped and shredded beyond repair." http://www.opednews.com/
samples_...1004_I_know.htm
Sarah Deere |
07.16.05 - 5:40 pm | #
Here's another charming snap of Arthur huffing dirt.
Just say "no" to dirt, Arthur.
Pere Ubu |
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07.16.05 - 5:40 pm | #
And this Plame investigation will destroy the foundations of the Liberal Media and allow for a more impartial media to be founded.
Victoria Toensing is a fucking Repuklican operative. And ragingly partisan.
Yeah, she wouldn't know the law SHE WROTE
You really can't read, can you?
.
Grand Moff Texan |
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07.16.05 - 5:41 pm | #
What, no garlic?
I find if I add garlic to the butter it takes away from the scallop. the italian cream sauce with garlic scallops I had at Cafe Sport in sf were awesome, but I tend not to use it with mine.
a recipe from one of my sisters I learened in high school.
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari |
07.16.05 - 5:41 pm | #
RC:
Are you seriously claiming that the CIA doesn't get to decide which of their operatives are covert or not?
Dickie Roberts |
07.16.05 - 5:41 pm | #
Speaking of being crazier than a shithouse rat (R.C., lookin' at YOU!), how about a little write up on L. Ron Habbard? With such things as:
This guy is what trolls desire to become: rich but out there. WAY out there.
Big Daddy Mars |
07.16.05 - 5:41 pm | #
Patrick Fitzgerald and the judges seem to have a different opinion. Funny thing, law.
Then how come Fitzgerald hasn't charged anybody under that law?
How come he's not even going to use that law?
R.C. Richards |
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07.16.05 - 5:42 pm | #
And this Plame investigation will destroy the foundations of the Liberal Media and allow for a more impartial media to be founded.
Uh, that would be the "liberal media" that's sucking Mehlman's dick 24/7?
Man, you guys are dumb.
.
Grand Moff Texan |
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07.16.05 - 5:42 pm | #
Don't waste your time on this tired trool. Save thread; somebody'll need it to stitch the ME back together again after the cabal is finally rotting in prison.
QuentinCompson |
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07.16.05 - 5:42 pm | #
Yeah, she wouldn't know the law SHE WROTE
well, Alberto Gonzalez didn't know the law he wrote himself, so there's a precedent.
Pere Ubu |
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07.16.05 - 5:42 pm | #
Karl does the walk,
Does the walk of perps,
Yeah, the walk of perps!
Sing it for us, RC!
One more verse, baby!
Take it away!
Dickie Roberts |
07.16.05 - 5:42 pm | #
The CIA doesn't get to decide who is covert and who isn't when it comes to a law with conditions for being covert.
And Karl Fucking Rove does? You people are a menace to democracy, intelligence, and morality everywhere.
Doc |
07.16.05 - 5:42 pm | #
Jim Lehrer reminds us that Freedom is not Free.
I always thought the 2000 campaign slogan Vote Freedom First was more idiotic. Which freedoms: speech, religion, Roosevelt's Four Freedoms? And how would voting for Shrub ever help that?
Omnes Omnibus |
07.16.05 - 5:42 pm | #
Then how come Fitzgerald hasn't charged anybody under that law?
Uh, because he's still taking testimony?
There, that was easy.
How come he's not even going to use that law?
R.C. Richards | Homepage | 07.16.05 - 5:42 pm | #
Sez who? Sean Hannity?
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Grand Moff Texan |
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07.16.05 - 5:43 pm | #
Wouldn't it be more accurate for them to say "Freedom's great when you kill people in it's name but it sucks when you actually use it"?
SWR
Best I can figure, it means: "Our freedom to kill people in the Third World and our freedom to make sure other Americans die.
Rmj, Wandering Aengus |
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07.16.05 - 5:43 pm | #
wow, this thread is getting long and it's hard not to step in the troll droppings. saw a big pile up above, but since it started out confusing independant counsel with special counsel, and then launched into convoluted threads of illogic, i didn't bother to follow it down to the signature. i assume it was rc.
i like playing with trolls as much as the next guy, but after a while they start to get overexcited and need to be put down. didn't we have some veteranerians on this site? i think it is rc's time.
shbinga |
07.16.05 - 5:43 pm | #
Guess my kitten's name! Hint: The kitten hates hegemony.
R.C., you're absolutely right. Rove was probably a pawn in the war between Cheney and the CIA. I have a feeling that the ultimate "target" of the investigation is Big Time Dick.
We'll see, won't we?
We'll be waiting to hear back from you when the indictments are handed down.
commie atheist |
07.16.05 - 5:43 pm | #
The CIA doesn't get to decide who is covert and who isn't when it comes to a law with conditions for being covert.
And this Plame investigation will destroy the foundations of the Liberal Media and allow for a more impartial media to be founded.
jumpsuit judy ought to serve as an abject lesson for every J school graduate. here's to a more impartial media that actually does the job their "credo" proclaims.
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari |
07.16.05 - 5:44 pm | #
Are you seriously claiming that the CIA doesn't get to decide which of their operatives are covert or not?
The law makes specifics on who is covert and who isn't. And from what i've heard, Plame is not covert under the law.
You all need to stop sucking up to the Liberal CIA.
Uh, that would be the "liberal media" that's sucking Mehlman's dick 24/7?
The media has barely mentioned Mehlman and they continually cover Dean.
R.C. Richards |
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07.16.05 - 5:44 pm | #
The new Harry Potter arrived at 9:00 AM today.
Just returned from my local B & N, having forgotten that it's Harry Day.. A freakin' madhouse..
Greeter: "Are you here for Harry?"
Me: "Um, no, I'm actually here for Nick Tosches' "King Of The Jews."
And they looked at me funny!
(Bought a copy anyway, just to piss off The Pope - alongside Nick and the new Denise Mina. EVERYBODY knows that the best genre fiction is coming out of Scotland these days, right? Right?)
bill buckner |
07.16.05 - 5:45 pm | #
Uh, that would be the "liberal media" that's sucking Mehlman's dick 24/7?
The media has barely mentioned Mehlman and they continually cover Dean.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
I meant his talking points, witless. They are the beginning and the end of all coverage on this.
And from what i've heard...
As you've shown, the value of this is nil.
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Grand Moff Texan |
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07.16.05 - 5:46 pm | #
But, dirt is a GOOD THING. Dirt and dollies, anyway. Don't you want some?
Arthur J. GWPDA |
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07.16.05 - 5:46 pm | #
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari :
Last night I had divers scallops
(wow) sauteed in clarified butter
and garlic, topped with chives
and truffle oil.
I now believe in god.
steve simels |
07.16.05 - 5:46 pm | #
Uh, because he's still taking testimony?
There, that was easy.
It's been almost 2 years.
What's taking him so long?
I guess that Judith Miller, who is covering up the crime of her liberal friends, is the one reason for the slowness of this case.
The Left outed Plame.
R.C. Richards |
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07.16.05 - 5:46 pm | #
A quick, "Hello" -- and and even quicker "Goodbye" from the depths of exam-prep hell. For anyone that doesn't already know it (and that's no one here) watertiger is a doll. I leave you (for conflicts of law) with a soupcon of Rich:
Let me reiterate: This case is not about Joseph Wilson. He is, in Alfred Hitchcock's parlance, a MacGuffin, which, to quote the Oxford English Dictionary, is "a particular event, object, factor, etc., initially presented as being of great significance to the story, but often having little actual importance for the plot as it develops." Mr. Wilson, his mission to Niger to check out Saddam's supposed attempts to secure uranium that might be used in nuclear weapons and even his wife's outing have as much to do with the real story here as Janet Leigh's theft of office cash has to do with the mayhem that ensues at the Bates Motel in "Psycho."
Read the rest.
res ipsa loquitur |
07.16.05 - 5:46 pm | #
BDM -
Have you heard the story of why hubbard started scientology? may be apocraphyl, but in essence he was in a bar with some other sci-fi writers and bet them he could invent a religion and get people to actually follow it. and the rest is history.
shbinga |
07.16.05 - 5:46 pm | #
I remember that Kitchen
Sink anthology, but alas I never
bought it (I looked at it
lustfully on the shelf at
Forbidden Planet).
I bought the paperback and the hardcover (as a gift), but I could have bought a hardcover signed by both Kurtzman and Elder for 40 bucks... and I didn't! Grrrrrrrrr...
Do you know if any of the stuff
is still in print?
I meant his talking points, witless. They are the beginning and the end of all coverage on this.
Those are talking points, those are truth points.
And if the media is reporting the truth, it's a welcome change from their liberal bias and hatred for Bush.
R.C. Richards |
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07.16.05 - 5:47 pm | #
The CIA is liberal?
Why wasn't I told?
Dickie Roberts |
07.16.05 - 5:47 pm | #
Cafe Sport in sf
North Beach? Prawn pizza - mmmmm. Endless cappuccinos - mmmmm. Kalimri - not so much.
Foosball! (At least in the old days.)
-
QuentinCompson |
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07.16.05 - 5:47 pm | #
The CIA is liberal?
Why wasn't I told?
Many CIA employees, including Valerie Plame, are liberal Democrats from big universities.
R.C. Richards |
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07.16.05 - 5:48 pm | #
Espionage Act: (1) possession of (2) information (3) relating to the national defense (4) which the person possessing it has reason to know could be used to damage the United States or aid a foreign nation and (5) wilful communication of that information to (6) a person not entitled to receive it.
Under the Espionage Act, the person doing the communicating need not actually know that revelation could be damaging; he needs only "reason to know." Classification is generally reason to know, and a security-clearance holder is responsible for knowing what information is classified.
Nor is it necessary that the discloser intend public distribution; if Rove told Cooper -- which he did -- and Cooper didn't have a security clearance -- which he didn't -- the crime would have been complete.
And to be a crime the disclosure need not be intended to damage the national security; it is only the act of communication itself that must be wilful.
It's also a crime to "cause" such information to be communicated, for example by asking someone else to do so.
Judith Miller, who is covering up the crime of her liberal friends
JUDITH MILLER? LIBERAL? AHAHAHAHAHAHA!
the Left outed Plame
how can you out someone who isn't a covert agent? Make up your mind. or whatever it is you have.
shbinga |
07.16.05 - 5:48 pm | #
Greeter: "Are you here for Harry?"
Me: "Um, no, I'm actually here for Nick Tosches' "King Of The Jews."
And they looked at me funny!
why does this make me think of crowds yelling "Welease Bwian! Welease Bwian!"?
Pere Ubu |
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07.16.05 - 5:48 pm | #
The CIA is liberal?
Oddly enough the CIA has supported some "liberal" fronts in the past.
The National Student Organization in the 1960s was a CIA front. Gloria Steinham was one of its first presidents and she had no clue that the CIA was involved.
SWR |
07.16.05 - 5:48 pm | #
Judy is a lefty?
Who knew.
The things one learns from trollz.
pie |
Homepage |
07.16.05 - 5:48 pm | #
The critter should be ignored. My critter is gnawing on my arm.
rorschach |
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07.16.05 - 5:49 pm | #
Miller had to be a liberal to succeed in the Media.
R.C. Richards |
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07.16.05 - 5:49 pm | #
"Many CIA employees, including Valerie Plame, are liberal Democrats from big universities."
Name three liberal CIA employees, the liberal universities they attended, and post the transcripts of the liberal classes they took.
into which conservatives rarely are admitted, i suppose.
and so they pretend that being intelligent and well educated is a bad thing. penis envy of the brain.
shbinga |
07.16.05 - 5:50 pm | #
In College, many Conservatives are hounded by liberal professors and leftists.
R.C. Richards |
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07.16.05 - 5:51 pm | #
Anyway, it's a hilarious story, with some great Elder art... since you're such a big Kurtzman fan, I'm emailing you a PDF version I scanned from an "unauthorized source"...
me. me. me too. please, pretty please.
let me know how to contact you.
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari |
07.16.05 - 5:51 pm | #
The CIA doesn't get to decide who is covert and who isn't when it comes to a law with conditions for being covert.
Whatever. Are you ex-CIA? You seem to know so much about how they work.
Read this again:
No law was broken, whatsoever. The woman who WROTE the law (Victoria Toensing) has said the law was not broken and, odds are, she knows more about it than the media.
R.C. Richards | Homepage | 07.16.05 - 5:37 pm | #
Whatever. So they've got a special prosecutor
(who, by all accounts, was doing a great job uncovering Democratic corruption in Chicago), a grand jury that's heard tetimony, plus a reporter who's in jail who won't talk about what she knows (couldn't happen to a better person, BTW; Judith Miller deserves to be in jail for her WMD lies). Go ahead and keep repeating that "no law was broken," regardless of what the reality of the situation actually is. If it makes you feel better.
I'll just sit back and watch as the facts beome known. And you will fade away into the woodworks, until the next time the floorboard squeaks, and out come the freaks.
commie atheist |
07.16.05 - 5:51 pm | #
The media has barely mentioned Mehlman and they continually cover Dean.
He's getting TV transmissions from an alternate universe where Noam Chomsky, Howard Zinn and Barbara Ehrenrich are the hosts on "Fox and Freinds".
Pere Ubu |
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07.16.05 - 5:51 pm | #
Notice the penalty for violating 18 USC 794(a) is much stiffer, it's, "...death or by imprisonment for any term of years or for life,..."
watch karl fry.
fry, karl, fry.
extra crispy
all around.
Miller had to be a liberal to succeed in the Media.
like Bob Novak, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Pat Buchanan, Michael Medved, Mary Matalin, William Buckley, G. Gordon Liddy, Oliver North, Chuck Colson, Pat Robertson, Ann Coulter, Jerry Fallwell, George Will, Bill O'Reilly...
Pere Ubu |
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07.16.05 - 5:54 pm | #
What, no garlic?
I find if I add garlic to the butter it takes away from the scallop. the italian cream sauce with garlic scallops I had at Cafe Sport in sf were awesome, but I tend not to use it with mine.
a recipe from one of my sisters I learened in high school.
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari | 07.16.05 - 5:41 pm | #
Oh my god Cafe Sport! They make the best damn pesto sauce I have ever tasted. Always worth a trip to North Beach just to have a plate.
commie atheist |
07.16.05 - 5:54 pm | #
RC, you've got only two minutes left to list three liberal CIA employees, the liberal universities they attended, and the transcripts of the liberal classes they took.
Otherwise, we're gonna start suspecting that you're just making shit up off the top of your head!
Dickie Roberts |
07.16.05 - 5:55 pm | #
zsuzsu, you are right - the only reasonable response to this yabo. unless he is actually trying to be funny - that would be sad.
shbinga |
07.16.05 - 5:55 pm | #
Don't forget Cal Thomas.
pie |
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07.16.05 - 5:55 pm | #
Okay atriots I stopped bitchslapping the fool 'cause smart people (J.T. for one ) suggested no feeding and then youall go a hammering. Well our paid trool is too stupid for words - his true colors...
Many CIA employees, including Valerie Plame, are liberal Democrats from big universities. Yes, yes, it's all the fault of big universities where liberalism and open-mindedness are encouraged - bad universities - the CIA should stop hiring people who go to universities
But the left outed her. (Including the leftist CIA [supporting right wing juntas for half a century and countng] and the raging marxist Judith "I was proved fucking right" Miller)
No crime was commited because a person involved in drafting the law who knows nothing more about the facts in the case thaan whats in the media says so, be damned what the judges and the prosecuter in the case who are actually involved think.
RC, sadly, your time is up for listing three liberal CIA employees.
Sorry, but we must conclude that you were just making shit up.
Johnny has a nice parting gift for you, and better luck next time!
Dickie Roberts |
07.16.05 - 5:59 pm | #
Conservatives are hounded by liberal professors and leftists.
yeah, college professors get kinda snarky when you stand up in Comp Lit 156 and start spouting Ayn Rand. Dunno why...
and anyway, unlike public school you're paying to go to college. You're getting "indoctrinated", get your ass out of there and go to Liberty U. or one of those fine bastions of learning. Nobody's forcing you to go to HAHHHVAHHD if you think they'll brainwash you into Communism there.
Pere Ubu |
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07.16.05 - 6:00 pm | #
watch karl fry.
I'm already enjoying every moment (It's going to take quite some time) - watching trools squirm actually increases my pleasure -
Archibald Tuttle |
07.16.05 - 6:00 pm | #
What is causing the early signs of a press feeding frenzy is a sense –probably correct –something big is coming down. After all, Patrick J. Fitzgerald has probably not spent two years turning over rocks without finding a lizard. And he and Judge Tom Hogan would probably not be sending journalists to jail unless they were onto something serious.
And if Judy Miller went to jail rather than reveal a source, why did the source not release her? Is she covering for a high White House aide with a serious criminal liability?
'course he goes on to say the press is just trying to destroy america (which for very diff. reasons i agree) and to hear him tell it nixon was inoccent. but i do consider him to be a bit brighter than your average wingnut.
charley |
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07.16.05 - 6:01 pm | #
In College, many Conservatives are hounded by liberal professors and leftists.
PROVE IT, R.C. Richards.
Names (professors and students)
Places (colleges and universities)
Dates
PROVE your charge.
I'm willing to bet you can't. But if you can, good for you. But PROVE IT.
The Majority in this Country |
07.16.05 - 6:01 pm | #
No crime was commited because a person involved in drafting the law who knows nothing more about the facts in the case thaan whats in the media says so, be damned what the judges and the prosecuter in the case who are actually involved think.
Victoria T. helped draft the Espionage Act? does she have some special insights into Obstruction of Justice and Perjury too?
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari |
07.16.05 - 6:01 pm | #
j.t. -
yeah, but the price is right.
shbinga |
07.16.05 - 6:03 pm | #
"you should try another restaurant.
pretzelattack"
Well, yeah, I'd probobly just walk out at that moment. Shark does have an ammonia smell. I used to live next to a sea, and sometimes caught shark. Tried eating it a couple of times, but yuch, I don't think there is anyway to make it good including soaking it in brine overnight.
Doug |
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07.16.05 - 6:03 pm | #
why teachers are evul liburs:
you have to have an open mind.
a flexibility of intellect.
respect for facts.
empathy.
granted this doesn't rule out actual conservatives from being good educators but most neo-theo-cons are unsuited.
A dish fit for kings.
pie |
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07.16.05 - 6:05 pm | #
garlic = good.
yes. yes. yes. a thousand times yes.
all I was saying is when I fry my lightly breaded bay scallops in butter, I do so quickly at a high heat, add a 1/4 cup of vermouth and 1/2 cup of chopped parsley, cover and lower the heat for a few minutes, then serve them next to rice and lightly steamed vegetables.
that's all I was saying.
garlic = good seems suspiciously like a tautology to me. just saying.
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari |
07.16.05 - 6:05 pm | #
Trying to get some flexibility in students is why MIT has Chomsky on its staff.
Of course I'm still a bit "puzzled" as to what "liberal" vs. "conservative" has to do with a criminal investigation.
SWR |
07.16.05 - 6:07 pm | #
Make that an unfunny parody troll. Jeez, what a waste of time. And thread.
I shall now retire to Bedlam. See ya Monday, folks.
commie atheist |
07.16.05 - 6:08 pm | #
why teachers are evul liburs:
you forgot imagination.
i know, you'r thinking that RC has a huge freaking imagination, but really no more than a parrot who's been taught to recite harry potter.
shbinga |
07.16.05 - 6:08 pm | #
garlic = good seems suspiciously like a tautology to me. just saying.
Surprisingly, some people think garlic is yucky.
I know. Hard to believe.
pie |
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07.16.05 - 6:08 pm | #
SWR
code speak for "good" vs. "evil."
all liberals are evil commies and all conservatives are true americans.
Ever had garlic ice cream? I haven't, but they have it at the annual Garlic Festival in Gilroy, CA, to which I will someday make a pilgimmage. Mmmmmmm, garlic.
The trolls are just getting covered in their own fothing saliva over this. You would think if it were as much of nothing as they claim, they would just ignore it until the report vindicated them. Instead we get showed with alternate reality drivel, "judith Miller is a liberal" "Mehlman never gets to tell "his" side (why does the RNC have a side?)' drivel drivel.
Talk about protesting too much.
We know the arguments (per semper fubar):
Karl didn't do anything wrong.
And even if he did, Valerie Plame wasn't a spy.
And even if she was, she wasn't undercover.
And even if she was, everyone knew who she was anyway.
And even if they didn't, Wilson lied.
And even if he didn't, he was a partisan Democrat.
And even if he wasn't, his report wasn't important to anyone outside the Wilson household.
And even if it was, Judy Miller is in jail.
Yeah...We got it. Too bad you guys can't convert this into a gay marriage issue and turn it over to the fundies for a vote...
awab |
07.16.05 - 6:11 pm | #
Of course I'm still a bit "puzzled" as to what "liberal" vs. "conservative" has to do with a criminal investigation.
Well, when the world crumbles around them, the batshit-crazy trollz will blame anybody but Bushco.
I have a feeling, however, that their little fantasy world has taken one too many direct hits.
pie |
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07.16.05 - 6:11 pm | #
In College, many Conservatives are hounded by liberal professors and leftists.
Those damn liberal profs and their love for proper capitalization.
rorschach |
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07.16.05 - 6:12 pm | #
Ever had garlic ice cream? I haven't, but they have it at the annual Garlic Festival in Gilroy, CA, to which I will someday make a pilgimmage. Mmmmmmm, garlic.
do they have a garlic queen? garlic races?
pretzelattack |
07.16.05 - 6:12 pm | #
garlic = good seems suspiciously like a tautology to me. just saying.
not at all. just the initial axiom for nearly all culinary theorems.
shbinga |
07.16.05 - 6:12 pm | #
the mrs. just invited me out to see war of the worlds. i thought she was being - was being glib. but she knows the history of the war of the worlds. so i guess i'll go.
then we are going to get us some nice hot garlic bread, followed by some serious tongue swapping. see y'all later.
shbinga |
07.16.05 - 6:16 pm | #
too much garlic is a bad thing. all my freinds who like garlic use too much. but a little garlic is good.
well it's just a blog, and i don't know this for fact, but a charter captain told me that ammonia smell in shark is because they piss through their skin.
my daughters liberal professor was hounded by conservative students until he was forced to take down all anti bush references on his office door.
is arthur play'n with sock puppets?
charley |
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07.16.05 - 6:17 pm | #
Well, when the world crumbles around them, the batshit-crazy trollz will blame anybody but Bushco.
I have a feeling, however, that their little fantasy world has taken one too many direct hits.
pie | Email | Homepage | 07.16.05 - 6:11 pm | #
I'm assuming the spin is based on the assumption that Rove's going to avoid prosecution and is intended to prevent it from hurting Bush in the polls.
But I don't see how this does anything to help Bush in any way even if Rove does avoid jail time. The country's already polarized and anybody who's likely to be swayed by the "liberal media" argument probably already votes Republican.
Similarly, anybody who wants to see Rove in jail already votes Democratic.
So there's about 5% of the population that's open minded about it. And there's no way you want to keep the Iraq/WMDs argument in front of them in a slow news season. And they're also likely to believe the "when there's smoke there's fire" argument.
What's more, if the Bush administration tries to cause bad feelings and polarize people in reponse to this, they're doing exactly what they're accused of doing to Wilson in another situation.
The best thing for Bush is just for this to go away. That's why the wingnut blogs were attacking Lawrence O'Donnell last week. They were arguing that Rove wasn't involved and that the idea he was was crazy leftist spin.
SWR |
07.16.05 - 6:17 pm | #
Many CIA employees, including Valerie Plame, are liberal Democrats from big universities.
Ah, there you go again, with the Big U line.. Look, it's not our fault that the closest that you ever came to a good college was watering the football field!
Ooooh, "Soylent Green's" coming on TCM.. See, R.C., THERE IS a way to make yourself useful!
bill buckner |
07.16.05 - 6:26 pm | #
RC Richards is a subroutine of The Threadbot™, no?
I just assumed that Atrios realized that for better or for worse, a good many number of people here enjoy intercourse with trolls. So he installed a mechanical-rabbit troll system.
It appears to be capable of generating a few basic troll-personae, simply rotating names from a list.
Yup, pretty sure that RC and his kind are decoys inserted to keep the pot stirred-- or, if you prefer to keep the fish theme going, a spinning lure. And sometimes just a blob of suet or rancid bacon...
Little Brøther |
07.16.05 - 6:45 pm | #
Commie Atheist, If you're going to Gilroy, CA you'll smell the garlic long before you get into town.
J.J.McC |
07.16.05 - 6:50 pm | #
R C is an annoying fuck,
like those summertimne nagging gnats.
apeman |
07.16.05 - 7:00 pm | #
Ror, your little tuxie cat is about as cute as he/she can be (and your hint hasn't helped me guess the name at all, with my mind befogged by heat as it is).
I bet those beautiful baby blue eyes will end up goldy-green, like my big tuxies' eyes. Very pretty.
strawhat |
07.16.05 - 7:13 pm | #
Wasn't the Richards troll yesterday going on and on and on that Plame was not covert? And now she is covert but was outed by Corn? Wow. It's like the Whirl-a-Twirl at the carnival, the trolls just spin around and around.
yawn |
07.16.05 - 7:14 pm | #
And I think Rove's minions attempt to hang this whole thing on Powell is so par for their course. The guy sold his entire reputation for them at the UN, and now he's retired, out of the game. Doesn't matter. He never was one of the inner circle, so they figure he doesn't count -- and try to pin the tail on the Colin. They'll never try to pin it on Condi, never. But Colin? Sure, why not? Let's see, who'll they try next?
strawhat |
07.16.05 - 7:17 pm | #
liberal Democrats from big universities.
into which conservatives rarely are admitted, i suppose.
John Stuart Mill is said to have remarked that while it is not true that all or even most Conservatives were stupid, it was true that all or most stupid people were Conservatives...
WoodyGuthriesGuitar(aka... |
07.16.05 - 7:41 pm | #
"In College, many Conservatives are hounded by liberal professors and leftists."
I want whatever this troll is smoking!
Terry C |
07.16.05 - 8:02 pm | #
The LIBERAL CIA?
Upon consideration, I DON'T want what he's smoking after all.
All together now, for Rorschach's kitten: AAAAWWWW!!!
Anyone ever see the mad but delectable irony in the acronym WHIG or is it just me?
jurassicpork |
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07.16.05 - 9:47 pm | #
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm tired of this "open thread" BS. I might as well be in a frigging chatroom. If that's what I wanted, I would go to one.
Barry Walden |
07.17.05 - 7:10 pm | #