I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

GravatarHa! spinoza where are you?


GravatarI'm not worthy!


Gravatarme first.


GravatarQuick, we need a spool for all these dangling threads!

Also, let me be the frist to say "Fuck Bush!"


Gravatarhah! frist!


GravatarHello? Will you accept a post?


Gravatarimpeach Bush! and Cheney!


GravatarHilarious.

I was really first, ya know.


GravatarBesides, too many threads do NOT spoil the soup. They make it even more delicious.


GravatarWhy nigh, fly pie?


GravatarFuck the WHIG!


GravatarMy kitten loves new threads.

And hates trolls.


GravatarI was really first, ya know.

yes, but do you have one of these? -->


GravatarIf R.C. Richards follows us over
here, I swear to god I'm gonna
take a hostage.


GravatarI wonder if they'll be any moments of silence in the USA over this.


GravatarSure, right here -->


Gravatarhow come i never get to be first?

well let's post this near the top 'cause i think he's got it. So forget "Rove-gate" and get ready for "Cheney-gate."

that bastard better hang on till indictment.


Gravatarror --
that is a seriously adorable
kitty kat.


GravatarGuess my kitten's name! Hint: The kitten hates hegemony.


GravatarOh yeah? Well, Clinton got a bj! so there!

oops, forgot to breathe again.


Gravataryes, but do you have one of these? -->
wÒÓ†


Sure, right over here -->
-


GravatarSo, who's gunna flip the coin to bait Richards downstairs?

I'm on vacation you know...


GravatarI'm sick of watching the Honor Roll at the end of the Jim Lehrer NewsHour.

19. 22. 21. 22. Oh, look, that Staff Sergeant is a ripe old 32. 19. 26. Hey, look, they got a Lt. Colonel - looks like some kind of doctor or engineer. Plenty of those around. 22.

And another eight the next night.


GravatarSure, right here -->
QuentinCompson


That one's clearly mine. You should get your own.


GravatarI wonder if they'll be any moments of silence in the USA over this.

You can bet there'll be one in the White House. It'll probably last all day . . . all week . . . all month . . ..


GravatarWhat up, non-stop party peoples?
.


GravatarIf the cola guy comes upstairs, I think it would be best to put him in time out and ignore is inane comments.


GravatarI love thread soup. Especially with freshly ground black pepper and sea salt.


Gravatar¡Camarero, there's a thrrread een mio sopa!

so.


GravatarI wonder if they'll be any moments of silence in the USA over this.

of course not. just a bunch of dead hadjis.

Now dead Londoners - they're white (or at least honorary "white guys") so we can feel bad about them getting killed.


GravatarSWR, those are brown skinned people with a funny religion.

come to think about it i didn't notice too much sympathy for the brits. everyone is a pawn in the neo con game, and the rightards will to power.


GravatarThank you, steve!

A friend who has fostered about a hundred just could not get over him. He is just that adorable. And he sleeps right now upon my ankle tattoo.


GravatarSure, right here -->
QuentinCompson

I got yer -->

and raise you a ~~~~~~>


GravatarI'm a little teapot, short and thick.
Here is my handle, here is my dick.


GravatarThread soup again?

And some more Hedberg: "I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." And one of my favorites: "I like vending machines, because snacks are better when they fall."


Gravatarcome to think about it i didn't notice too much sympathy for the brits. everyone is a pawn in the neo con game

The NYC tabloids were running individual stories about the victims in London.

Note. I'm not saying this is bad. On the contrary, it's the right thing to do.

But if they did it about Iraqi victims, they wouldn't have enough room.

One death is a tragedy. A million is a statistic.


Gravatarror:

the blues eye are astounding.

I've never
seen a cat like that before...


GravatarWell Thomas Friedman is on CSPAN and a documentary on the Olsen twins is in E! I can't decide which one to watch. Life is so fucking difficult.


GravatarWell Thomas Friedman is on CSPAN and a documentary on the Olsen twins is in E! I can't decide which one to watch. Life is so fucking difficult.

The one on the Olsens is probably the most bullshit-free of the two.


GravatarI'm a little teapot, short and thick.
Here is my handle, here is my dick.
R.C. Richards


Hey, stop stealing my NAME!

.


GravatarCharlotte---

When I but candy at a store, I drop it, so that it reaches its full flavor potential.

And don't even get me started about escalators. And race cars and Tide. Much less Smacky the Frog.


GravatarNow dead Londoners - they're white (or at least honorary "white guys") so we can feel bad about them getting killed.

at least the "regular" ones. i understand from fox that some arabs got killed, too.

http://mediamatters.org/items/20...ms/ 200507080005


GravatarWell Thomas Friedman is on CSPAN and a documentary on the Olsen twins is in E! I can't decide which one to watch. Life is so fucking difficult.

The one on the Olsens is probably the most bullshit-free of the two.


Which one has more flatness?


Gravatarsee homepage


GravatarWell Thomas Friedman is on CSPAN and a documentary on the Olsen twins is in E!

that's why Goddess made DVD players, silly.


Gravataroops, forgot to change my name from TheOriginal RC Richards Parody in the post above. guess i should preview.


GravatarRay Davies should be knighted.



Just saying.


GravatarBD Mars-
Thanks for the push. Now I can fantasize about the Jenna, Not-Jenna Olsen twin on twin thing.


GravatarI can't decide which one to watch.

Active mind rot vs. the inert is an easy one for me.

C-span2/BookTV has blather about the failed Iraq war and the need to continue it.


GravatarThe one on the Olsens is probably the most bullshit-free of the two.

The Olsen twins (aka Spawn of Satan) could probably write a better political column as well.


Gravatarmy handle honors ray davies


GravatarRay Davies should be knighted.



Just saying.
steve simels


Did I metion that he pulled us up on stage once?

.


Gravatar BD Mars-
Thanks for the push. Now I can fantasize about the Jenna, Not-Jenna Olsen twin on twin thing.


Thinkin' about this . . . I gotta get my mind outta the gutter!


Gravatar"My kitten loves new threads."

even Soup threads?


Gravatarcrisis of feith

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/ameri...cas/ 4679127.stm

"The outgoing Pentagon number three has admitted holding doubts over key areas of US military policy in Iraq.

In an interview with the Washington Post, Douglas Feith said too few troops may have been deployed to invade Iraq."

just a tad late to the reality train.

-J.T.


Gravatar "My kitten loves new threads."

even Soup threads?



Even String threads.

He's just that magnanimous.


GravatarOne death is a tragedy. A million is a statistic.
SWR

well my point was that on the day of the bombing we had right wing fuckwits like sen. mccain saying "this proves we need to fight "them" in iraq. which is inane. not to mention very insensitive.

i guess the death toll won't go as high as it did in veitnam, but this ain't veitnam, and iraq has ensured that we will be seeing random acts of terrorism for the rest of our lives.


GravatarHere are the photos of Arthur with:
(1),
(2)
the very nice dirt that Kent sent as a special olfactory treat and the exceptionally jolly canvas dolly that he loves very much. Shaded under the beginning leaves of the then new Chinese pistache and near the baby sized watermelon vines. And a bonus shot of a recumbent Orange Ball.


Gravataroops

forgot to change my nic back!

.


Gravataryes, but do you have one of these? --


I used to before gravatar took a vacation.


GravatarThe new Harry Potter arrived at 9:00 AM today.

I finished it an hour ago.

And now begins the long wait for the last one.

"Dear Ms. Rowling:

Type FASTER, DAMMIT!

Ever your faithful reader,"


Gravatarrorschach ... gorgeous kitty's name...?


GravatarDouglas Feith said too few troops may have been deployed to invade Iraq

Mr. Feith, meet Mr. McFarlaine.

He'll tell you all about illegal wars and guerilla resistance.


Gravatarsteve s: "Ray Davies should be knighted"

yes and no... either way, it's entirely appropriate...(and if that doesn't make sense, it would in the context of the Kinks & their 'career')

da-da da-da dadadadada


Gravatarrethugs heart the VA:
WASHINGTON - Fellow Republicans warned House Speaker Dennis Hastert and Majority Leader Tom DeLay more than a year ago that the government would come up short — by at least $750 million — for veterans' health care. The leaders' response: Fire the messengers.

Now that the Bush administration has acknowledged a shortfall of at least $1.2 billion, embarrassed Republicans are scrambling to fill the gap. Meanwhile, Democrats portray the problem as another example of the GOP and the White House taking a shortsighted approach to the cost of wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and criticize their commitment to the troops.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ 20050...HNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

Will the "liberal media" track down rethugs all over the country and ask them if they think shorting the VA is helping them and their party? No.

Will the "liberal media" track dems that were all over this shortfall for 2 years and ask them if they think rethugs shorting the VA proves that rethugs don't care about vetrans? No.

Murray, Byrd and several other dems were all over the VA short fall:
(WASHINGTON, D.C.) – Today, following her heated questioning of VA Secretary Jim Nicholson about why his agency is “unexpectedly” facing a $1 billion budget shortfall, Senator Patty Murray (D-Wash.) spoke on the floor of the Senate to introduce her amendment to provide $1.42 billion to fix the problem. Murray, who introduced the amendment with Senator Robert C. Byrd (D-WV), tried three times to increase funding for the VA within both the budget and Emergency War Supplemental, but her efforts were rejected on party-line votes.
http://murray.senate.gov/news.cf...s.cfm? id=239726

Ask a ma and pa kettle near you if they have any idea about rethugs shorting the VA by more than $2 billon.

From AP:
Summary: GOP Ignored Warnings on Veterans
The House refused to provide more money. Two of the congressmen who sounded the alarm were pulled from their committee chairmanships.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/congr...HBhBHNlYwM5NjQ-

The AP mentions nothing about dems predicting the shortfalls last year. Murray and others have had numerous press conferences and releases and "liberal media" would not cover them.

This bullshit does not stop until we stop it.
Op Truth has a great ad they want to run:
http://www.optruth.org


Gravatarwell my point was that on the day of the bombing we had right wing fuckwits like sen. mccain saying "this proves we need to fight "them" in iraq.

That's a bit like some fratboy's dad saying his has to "sow some wild oats" with some white trash townie girl before he settles down and gets married to someone from his own class.

Or maybe it's like dumping the toxic waste in West Virginia so we don't have to fight it in Connecticut.


Gravatar crisis of feith


did you hear al franken's oy-oy-oy ahow on friday?

Katherine: something about feith
Franken: that bastard!
Katherine: something about feith
Franken: that bastard!
Katherine: something about feith
Franken: that bastard!
Katherine: Al, this is the Oy-oy-oy show, not the "that bastard show!"
Franken: Not today. Douglas Feith is a bastard


GravatarJust started reading "Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince". I burst out laughing when the narrative describes the Prime Minister not looking forward to a phone call from a president from another country who is descrbed as a "wretched man". Who could that be I wonder?


Gravatarhttp://www.theledger.com/apps/pb...6/API/ 507160874
Messages Hint at London Blast Recruiting

By BRIAN MURPHY
AP Religion Writer
LEEDS, England
Amear Ali remembers how the film images clicked by in rapid-fire sequence to a soundtrack of pounding drums: dead Iraqi children, Palestinians under siege, Guantanamo prisoners, snippets of President Bush repeating the word "crusade."

"You could see how it could turn someone to raw hate," said Ali, recalling his brush last year with the hard-edged marketing of extremism at an Islamic bookstore operated by his brother-in-law. "It even started working on me. Then I said to myself, `Get out. This stuff is poison.'"

The shop was drawn deeper Saturday into the international investigation of the July 7 London bombings, and Ali's introductions into the militant messages could help explain the possible recruitment tactics used in the neighborhood where the suicide mission apparently took shape.

etc.
----

President ShitForBrains
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GravatarOr maybe it's like dumping the toxic waste in West Virginia so we don't have to fight it in Connecticut

oh, wait, they are doing that.


GravatarGOD'S TEAM 7 SATAN'S SPAWN 4


Gravatarbruce from chicago,
my son bought it last night, read that part out loud to me this morning. lol.


Gravatarthe blues eye are astounding.

I thought it was a trick of the camera flash.

Atr its eyes really blue?

Judy blue eyes.

No, reminds me of someone evil.


Gravatarthe government would come up short — by at least $750 million — for veterans' health care

Somebody get an electric engraver and carve this into R.C. Richard's forehead.


GravatarLondon Bomber Former Guest Of British Parliament

Bomber Also Visited The British MP And His Wife In Their Home:

http://thegreenlantern.blogspot....of- british.html


GravatarWhy does J.K. Rowlling hate America?

Probably for the same reason most of the world hates America.

GWB.


GravatarGo figure, the left is blaming Bush for what some sub-human monkey is doing to recruit terrorists.


Gravatar"A suicide bomber detonated his explosives near a propane fuel tanker parked near a gas station south of Baghdad Saturday evening, killing at least 60 and wounding as many as 100 people, police sources said." --cnn.com


O my god, what have we done?


Gravatarplease starve the troll.

thank you.

-J.T.


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GravatarThere is certainly too much pepper in that soup.
.


GravatarGood News from the Green Zone.


Gravatar Go figure, the left is blaming Bush for what some sub-human monkey is doing to recruit terrorists.
R.C. Richards


Shit, they have subhuman monkeys (as opposed to the other kind) on their side now!


GravatarI hate the Yankees. they suck. damn Yankees.


GravatarFuck the troll. Let it die in a pool of inattention.

1762
http://icasualties.org/oif/
-


GravatarHey everyone! mussels with sundried tomatoes over at the Hungry Blogger!

(see Homepage).

Blog whore is me.


Gravatartrolls who are not fed go away.

embrace the concept.

-J.T.


GravatarI thought Drinky Bush was a subhuman monkey.


GravatarShit, they have subhuman monkeys (as opposed to the other kind) on their side now!

The subhuman ones you can understand--it's the human monkeys--like a certain Preznit--that are the real problem.


GravatarGood News from the Green Zone.
Friendly Fire | Email | Homepage | 07.16.05 - 5:13 pm | #


This and the "dissent.blogspot" idiot are starting to annoy me.

I haven't used a Hosts file in awhile. I'm assuming that blogger doesn't give individual IPs to every member. But I guess it's also possible to redirect "blogwhore.blogspot" back to Yahoo or something.


Gravatarhas anyone else noticed the increasingly large numbers of pro-theofascist stories on cnn (comic news network?)

yesterday they had a little deal about the new harry potter book. fair and balanced - one side was an xian who thought potter could lead to bad things. on the other side, an xian who didn't think it was that bad. boy, i was happy to hear both of those viewpoints so i could make up my own mind.


Gravatarfriggin' HTML tags.

I blame Rove.


Gravatarthe blues eye are astounding.

I thought it was a trick of the camera flash.

Atr its eyes really blue?


Not a trick. Very blue.

Guess his name!

He hates hegemony. That's a hint.


GravatarShaw

with lots & lots of good crusty bread to sop up the juices.

-J.T.


GravatarJust so long as the terrorists don't get superhuman monkeys. Because that could be very bad.


GravatarRobert Graves once said, To be a poet is a condition rather than a profession.... "the poets are the antenna of our race."

Gulf War II

Do you avenge the Israelites
Turning Babylon to ash?
Will you take the treasure of the land,
Filling the coffers of your clan
With Gaia’s bitter blackened tears?

She weeps for her children
As their blood bathes your gold
Spend their life
And spin your yarn

Time’s pendulum swings an arc,
Slow and wide
Now, your way, rejoice.
Sooner than you know,
It swings back upon itself
Reclaiming what is spent

Recall great kingdoms there before
Look in your mirror, ye mighty,
And despair

I wrote this early in 2003 ....


GravatarYou know who is really too
stupid to engage.


In fact, he's so stupid I withdraw
my invitation for him to blow me
already (again).


First time wasn't so great,
actually.


GravatarWanna buy a monkey?


GravatarHave Judith Miller and Large Marge gotten acquainted yet?

And no, this is not about prison rape.

Heh.


Gravatarhow about flying monkeys?

those li'l guys are so cute, yet so deadly.


GravatarGo figure, the left is bl--

(This is the point where I'd usually insert a few "ZZzzz"'s, but frankly, this pathetic candy-assed motherfucker isn't worth the effort.)


GravatarIn an interview with the Washington Post, Douglas Feith said too few troops may have been deployed to invade Iraq."

Damnit, there are no oops or mulligans in war. We told these fuckwits they were wrong and they sneered at us and called us unpatriotic. Read see homepage
Friendly Fire | Email | Homepage | 07.16.05 - 5:00 pm | #
, it is enough to make you vomit.

On a lighter note.

I bet those of us on the left are not the only ones who wouldn't be sorry if Cheney keels over. If he goes the criminals in the WH have the perfect scapegoat. Or for that matter, anyone of them. I bet they are real careful to turn on their burglar alarms at night. Sweet dreams, assholes.


GravatarWanna buy a monkey?
Eli | Email | Homepage | 07.16.05 - 5:18 pm | #


Eli. I'm surprised you haven't riffed on the Mike Meyers Dieter TOUCH MY MONKEY joke yet.


Gravatar I'm sick of watching the Honor Roll at the end of the Jim Lehrer NewsHour.

Only the Left sheds tears for terrorists. We on the Right honor and cherish the dedicated volk who serve us all in the name of Freedom. Jim Lehrer reminds us that Freedom is not Free.


GravatarShaw

with lots & lots of good crusty bread to sop up the juices.

-J.T.
JohnTomato


Yes. Yes. and Yes.

Screw Rove and Bush.

Let's eat!


GravatarSteve, did you ever see my question about "Goodman Goes Playboy" a couple threads back?


GravatarDid someone say superhuman monkeys?


GravatarThinkin' about this . . . I gotta get my mind outta the gutter!
Big Daddy Mars


When you're done, can you give me an idea up.


GravatarEli. I'm surprised you haven't riffed on the Mike Meyers Dieter TOUCH MY MONKEY joke yet.

What can I say? Letterman saying "monkey" is funnier than Dieter saying it. Who knew?


Gravatarkittens always have blue eyes they will turn brown or green, unless he has siamese in him/her.

it is a very cute kitten.


GravatarLet's eat!

And he said the word: hot dog!

A mighty hot dog is our Lord...


GravatarSteve, did you ever see my question about "Goodman Goes Playboy" a couple
threads back?
dave™©® | Email | Homepage | 07.16.05 - 5:20 pm | #

Don't think so....I remember you
posting something about an Archie
parody that got banned, though...


GravatarAfter all the violence and double talk,
There's a song in the trouble and the strife,
Karl does the walk,
Does the walk of perps,
Yeah, the walk of perps . .

Sing it for us, RC!


GravatarWhat can I say? Letterman saying "monkey" is funnier than Dieter saying it. Who knew?


I've got "Die Hard" playing in the background.

I keep thinking Alan Rickman is going to scream TOUCH MY MONKEY at Bruce Willis.


GravatarShaw Kenawe

Sounds yum

Do you know if this is true?

Sea Scallops are really made from Sole or Flounder, punched out with a cookie cutter thing.

If they are just called Scallops, then no.

.


Gravatarwhat ever happened to dennis miller's monkey?

drifted back to crawford in a coke haze or just begging for fruit on a corner somewhere...

-J.T.


GravatarJim Lehrer reminds us that Freedom is not Free.

Neither are the fries.

BTW, the "volk" part . . . yer parody's showin'.


Gravatarrorschach--now I have "kitten lust."
You're lucky.


Gravatarevery day, some new horror. We are hemorrhaging from self-inflicted wounds. and we have a preznit who actually has his own food-taster.

Jesus in a jigsaw puzzle.

Sorry. Don't want to be so depressing, but some days I wish I'd never learned to read....


Gravatarno one has even tried to guess the kitten's name!

And yes, charley, it is true about the eyes.


Gravatar"...for what some sub-human monkey is doing to recruit terrorists.
R.C. Richards


I wouldn't call bush sub-human - but you actually got something half-right. Good on you!


GravatarWow - Is HaloScan being nice?


GravatarBTW, the "volk" part . . . yer parody's showin'.

"Mein Fuhrer! I can type!"


GravatarWell, being a libertarian I do know "freedom" is indeed free. But lap-dances aren't, and that's a pity.


GravatarBTW, the "volk" part . . . yer parody's showin'.
Big Daddy Mars | 07.16.05 - 5:22 pm | #


hope your right, bdm. it's depressing to think someone could actually be that stupid, callous and evil.


GravatarAnd he said the word: hot dog!

A mighty hot dog is our Lord...
dave™©®




“And though this world, with hot dogs filled,
Should eaten to undo us;
We will not fear, for God hath willed
His hot dogs to triumph through us.”


or...

“And though this world, with mussels and sun dried tomatoes filled,
Should eaten to undo us;
We will not fear, for God hath willed
His mussels with sun dried tomatoes to triumph through us.”


Gravatar Well, being a libertarian I do know "freedom" is indeed free. But lap-dances aren't, and that's a pity.

You should join *my* party - the lapertarians.


Gravatarror:

He hates hegemony?


Haven't got a clue.....


GravatarA mighty hot dog is our Lord..
I relish your religion.


Gravatarharry potter: bad.
torturing 11 year old Iraquis: good.

ah, chrisian america. gotta luv em.


GravatarThe VA has been getting the shit end of the stick under the Repugs for literally decades. I remember a friend of my brother's at med school in the good ol' Reagan 80's who was going to be an Army surgeon, describing how he had seen operations that had to be performed under Coleman lanterns at the VA hospital in Augusta, GA, because the funds to fix even basic equipment like lights weren't there.

Remember this the next time you see an SUV with a W sticker next to a Support the Troops magnet.


Gravatarhope your right, bdm. it's depressing to think someone could actually be that stupid, callous and evil.

I've had five years to become accustomed to the idea.


GravatarA mighty hot dog is our Lord...

Shoes for Industry, comrade!


GravatarA former CIA covert agent who supervised Mrs. Plame early in her career yesterday took issue with her identification as an "undercover agent," saying that she worked for more than five years at the agency's headquarters in Langley and that most of her neighbors and friends knew that she was a CIA employee. "She made no bones about the fact that she was an agency employee and her husband was a diplomat," Fred Rustmann, a covert agent from 1966 to 1990, told The Washington Times.
"Her neighbors knew this, her friends knew this, his friends knew this. A lot of blame could be put on to central cover staff and the agency because they weren't minding the store here. ... The agency never changed her cover status."

In addition, Mrs. Plame hadn't been out as an NOC since 1997, when she returned from her last assignment, married Mr. Wilson and had twins, USA Today reported yesterday. The distinction matters because a law that forbids disclosing the name of undercover CIA operatives applies to agents that had been on overseas assignment "within the last five years."


GravatarMy favorite Feith quote was when he told the New Yorker that Iraqis may have been too frightened of Baathists to strew flowers in the path of coalition liberators but "they had flowers in their minds." What more does one need to know about the man?


Gravataralso italian prisons.


Gravatar...I remember you
posting something about an Archie
parody that got banned, though...


Yeah, "Goodman Goes Playboy" was a parody of the Playboy Philosophy featuring the cast of Archie. Kurtzman and Elder wound up getting their asses sued off (personally!) and reprinting the story was prohibited as part of the settlement. They talk about it in the "Goodman Beaver" collection Kitchen Sink released in the late 80s.

Anyway, it's a hilarious story, with some great Elder art... since you're such a big Kurtzman fan, I'm emailing you a PDF version I scanned from an "unauthorized source"...


GravatarWell, being a libertarian I do know "freedom" is indeed free.

I've never quite got that quote.

They're not saying "we have to make sacrifices for freedom".

They're saying "we have to be willing to go out and kill innocent people in the third world" for freedom.

Wouldn't it be more accurate for them to say "Freedom's great when you kill people in it's name but it sucks when you actually use it"?


GravatarRemember this the next time you see an SUV with a W sticker next to a Support the Troops magnet.

I'm tellin' ya, it only applies to *current* troops.


GravatarRemember this the next time you see an SUV with a W sticker next to a Support the Troops magnet

and dont forget your keys either


Gravatarrorschach--now I have "kitten lust."
You're lucky.
Sweet Sue


ZOEY! RUN!
RUN! ZOE!

.


GravatarWhy are you making fun of Mr. Feith's brilliant use of imagery? "Flowers in their minds", what a lovely phrase! And yet you dare to mock it.

CS, I don't think you are cut out for AP English.


Gravatarsorry J.T. and everyone else. I will cease and desist.

Have you all read this? http://tinyurl.com/dcm58

Fellow Republicans warned House Speaker Dennis Hastert and Majority Leader Tom DeLay more than a year ago that the government would come up short — by at least $750 million — for veterans' health care. The leaders' response: Fire the messengers. makes for a hell of an opening paragraph, yes?


GravatarJim Lehrer reminds us that Freedom is not Free.

It costs the lives of anyone who is not me.

Or my child.

By the way, what "freedom" are they securing for us? Freedom to use as much oil as we can get our hands on? Freedom to subvert foreign governments and invade other countries on a whim? So far as I know, "terrorists" have a political agenda that amounts to: "Leave us the hell alone!" Which ain't exactly the lebensraum Hitler was looking for.

Seems to me they're criminals, IOW, and should be treated as same. We don't send soldiers to die in foreign countries for our "freedom from crime." We use police to investigate and arrest the criminals.

So what does "freedom not being free" have to do with terrorism?


GravatarAnyway, everyone watchout for this "Westchesta Molesta" they keep mentioning on the news. He'll getcha!


Gravatar
Sea Scallops are really made from Sole or Flounder, punched out with a cookie cutter thing.


sometimes, but usually not. especially not if you live in New England, or on cetain parts of the west coast. sea versus bay scallops are really just tidal variations of size that effect the kind of body meat produced, (like with clams: little necks, cherry stones, quahogs, steamers)

scallops. mmmmhhhhhh.

butter, vermouth, parsley, frying pan, scallops. mmmhhhhmmm, yummy.


GravatarShaw Kenawe

Sounds yum

Do you know if this is true?

Sea Scallops are really made from Sole or Flounder, punched out with a cookie cutter thing.

If they are just called Scallops, then no.

.
agave


The sea scallops that I eat here on Cape Cod are the muscle that holds the scallop shell together. You can eat the animal, but I prefer the muscle.

Now sometimes restaurants and shady people use skate fish, and punch out what looks like scallops and serve that.

You can't fool me, though. I've been eating scallops for a long, long while, and I know fake from real.

Fool me once, shame on you, fool me again, and...????


GEORGE!!!!!!


Gravatarhope your right, bdm. it's depressing to think someone could actually be that stupid, callous and evil.

I'm hoping it's true as well. Problem is, I do know someone who has this very mindset. Crazy fucker, he is. Didn't used to be this bad until The Boy King was anointed, and then he just went completely batshit crazy. Now every thing is the fault of the "librils", and we just won't let poor Mista Bush do what he needs to do to clean the world up.

Yeah, you just gotta hope . . ..


GravatarIgnore these fool trolls. Don't give them any pleasure as there world crumbles around them in shame and degradation. And prison.

Ignore the talentless schmucks.


Gravatard'oh! | 07.16.05 - 5:26 pm | #

Someone posted that nonsense yesterday.


Where is that article about her neighbors being shocked upon learning she worked for the CIA?

NYTimes?


GravatarWouldn't it be more accurate for them to say "Freedom's great when you kill people in it's name but it sucks when you actually use it"?

probably more accurate, but would skew poorly in the focus groups.


GravatarMy favorite Feith quote was when he told the New Yorker that Iraqis may have been too frightened of Baathists to strew flowers in the path of coalition liberators but "they had flowers in their minds." What more does one need to know about the man?




sounds like the classic PSYCHO stalker.. 'You don't want to see me? But you have flowers for me in your mind. YOU HAVE FLOWERS FOR ME IN YOUR MIND.


GravatarYou Dems seem to think that Karl Rove is the entree to possibly impeach Bush (and that is the ultimate goal here). They're angry because their desire for an independent counsel --- something they loved for Reagan and Bush, hated for Clinton, love for Bush II (but, no, the Liberal Media doesn't have an agenda. Don't be silly) --- backfired and led to journalists being imprisoned.

It's even more ironic since we KNOW Karl Rove gave Judith Miller his permission to discuss anything they discussed on this issue and the NY Times had her refuse --- which means that, most likely, Rove WASN'T THE MAIN SOURCE OF THE STORY.

Rove wasn't even a remotely tertiary source. He's just the bogeyman the press wants to crucify because one of their own is being thrust upon the patard created by the press.

Let's face a few facts:

1) No law was broken, whatsoever. The woman who WROTE the law (Victoria Toensing) has said the law was not broken and, odds are, she knows more about it than the media.

2) Since the reporters have Rove's permission to talk, he isn't the primary source. Not least of which, the press would NEVER keep anything incriminating about him quiet. Something would have leaked out more damaging than the emails (which only show that Rove didn't know her name nor did he have clearance to read Wilson's report. He simply told Cooper to not go over the edge covering Wilson's story as it didn't hold up)

Rove DID see George Tenet's statement before George issued it and saw how much it undercut most of Wilson's story. He gave Time a friendly warning.

Rove didn't know she was ever an agent (he didn't have access to that info) and didn't read Wilson's report (or else he would have utterly undressed Wilson's op-ed).

The person who "outed" Plame was not Rove. Odds are, it was another reporter, as her working for the CIA was as big a secret in Washington as Santa Claus not actually existing.

3) The more the press plays this, the more it'll end up backfiring. The press is so screwed here it is not comical. No harm will come to Rove because he didn't actually do anything. Bush is spotless here.

BUT, the press is neck-deep. The reporters know who told them everything and they aren't talking. Which means that the sources aren't on "their side" (Rove's attorney has pointed out that Cooper's article actually completely mischaracterizes what Rove actually told him). In fact, as Luskin pointed out, Rove didn't call Cooper (it was vice versa) and the conversation dealt with welfare reform for the most part.

Not exactly a campaign to out anybody.

In fact, the conservative contingent is in no apparent danger whatsoever. Novak has already testified and isn't even in the crosshairs. Rove has given all reporters permission to speak. But the only people in legal hot water are the reporters, not any political figures.

4) Valerie Plame's actual standing as a covert agent is shaky. Agents undercover don't often have deskjobs at Langley. She may have been once, but there is zero evidence she was one at the time of the "leak".

And her posing for pictures in Vanity Fair did more to make her public than anything else.


GravatarHey, d'oh:

I actually know that Rustmann guy quoted in your "article."

He never worked for the CIA. He's batshit crazy and was even institutionalized by his wife for awhile. He once told us that he was abducted by an alien spaceship that was piloted by Ed Sullivan.

So, nice try . . .


GravatarSarah

Does he really have a food taster. I never heard that before.

Sweet baby jesus. Do we have Caligula in charge?


Gravatarbutter, vermouth, parsley, frying pan, scallops. mmmhhhhmmm, yummy.

What, no garlic?


Gravatareveryone watchout for this "Westchesta Molesta" they keep mentioning on the news.

wasn't that the cartoon in "Hustler"?


GravatarKarl does the walk,
The walk of perps,
Yeah, the walk of perps!

Sing it for us, RC!

One more time, baby!


GravatarYou know, I used to think Brownshirt T was the absolute nadir of all trolls.

Well, I've been proven wrong again.


GravatarMan, it's like troll-a-palooza today. Especially on the al-Qaida/Saddam thread. Sheesh, I gotta shower.


GravatarDear Angelina Jolie,

You have flowers for me in your mind. I can feel it. I know we were meant to be together. Forever and ever.



mr. feith


GravatarHey R.C.!

Do you like mussels?


GravatarSo as not to be confused with Archibald Tuttle, after this post I will be known as Marchbleed (my online poker name).

We now rejoin your thead in progress...


GravatarBTW, the "volk" part . . . yer parody's showin'.

d'oh!

Rove DID see George Tenet's statement before George issued it and saw how much it undercut most of Wilson's story. He gave Time a friendly warning.

1984 is a parable, not a training manual. the Legion of Substitute Trolls is producing a better breed of bot each and every day.


GravatarHe never worked for the CIA. He's batshit crazy and was even institutionalized by his wife for awhile. He once told us that he was abducted by an alien spaceship that was piloted by Ed Sullivan.




sorry to disagree but anybody in the loop knew that ed sullivan was only the navigator on EXT. Ship 2005 not the pilot.


Gravatardave™©®:

Thanks!


BTW, I remember that Kitchen
Sink anthology, but alas I never
bought it (I looked at it
lustfully on the shelf at
Forbidden Planet).

Do you know if any of the stuff
is still in print?


GravatarMy favorite Feith quote was when he told the New Yorker that Iraqis may have been too frightened of Baathists to strew flowers in the path of coalition liberators but "they had flowers in their minds."

I read that one. Jeffrey Goldberg is the master at making silly fanatics say dumb things.

The only thing I wish he would have done was ask Feith directly if he were in favor of invading Iran.


GravatarRelax Zoey, I only lust in my heart.


GravatarA former CIA covert agent who supervised Mrs. Plame early in her career yesterday took issue with her identification as an "undercover agent," saying that she worked for more than five years at the agency's headquarters in Langley and that most of her neighbors and friends knew that she was a CIA employee. "She made no bones about the fact that she was an agency employee and her husband was a diplomat," Fred Rustmann, a covert agent from 1966 to 1990, told The Washington Times.
"Her neighbors knew this, her friends knew this, his friends knew this. A lot of blame could be put on to central cover staff and the agency because they weren't minding the store here. ... The agency never changed her cover status."


Yes, that's right, the CIA asked the Justice Department to investigate the outing of a covert CIA agent who wasn't a covert CIA Agent.

Ye gods, I guess it's impossible to reason with idiots who cheered the investigation of a President who got blowjobs in the white house.

Go ahead, believe whatever you want. I will wait and see what Mr. Fitzgerald (Fitzpatrick?) comes up with. Listen to your Preznit, fuckwads, and don't "prejudge the investigation," or you'll end up looking...well, I guess you can't look any stupider than you already do.


GravatarR.C. -- did you know putting a plastic bag over your head will speed up freedom and democracy in Iraq?

Try it, and remind all your republican freinds to do the same. The more plastic bags, the sooner those little Iraqi kids can fly kites and watch Disney videos!


GravatarThey're still dragging their dead talking points in here, like they're actually participating in the debate.

Cat blogging was yesterday.

/Buh-bye!
.


Gravatarfrom http://www.consortiumnews.com


Parallel Universe

Yet, in the continuing assault on former Ambassador Wilson, Bush’s political allies seem to be testing the limits of how far they can lure Americans into a parallel universe where Bush and his White House team are always beyond reproach.

Rather than finally accept that some senior officials in the White House may have acted improperly two years ago in divulging the identity of Wilson’s wife as a covert CIA officer, the Republican attack machine has stayed on the offensive.

“The angry Left is trying to smear” Rove, declared Republican National Chairman Ken Mehlman, even as White House officials refused to answer questions by citing an “ongoing investigation.” [Washington Post, July 13, 2005]

So Rove – famous for his smear campaigns against George W. Bush’s opponents from Texas Gov. Ann Richards to Arizona Sen. John McCain – is being reinvented as a blameless victim.

Recent history also is being turned on its head. What should be clear by this point is that the Bush administration was determined in 2002 to construct a case for invading Iraq regardless of the evidence and was using weapons of mass destruction as the hot button that was sure to terrify the American people.

According to the infamous Downing Street Memo on July 23, 2002, Richard Dearlove, chief of the British intelligence agency MI6, described his discussions with Bush’s National Security Council officials.

“Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy,” Dearlove said.

The memo added, “It seemed clear that Bush had made up his mind to take military action, even if the timing was not yet decided. But the case was thin. Saddam was not threatening his neighbours, and his WMD capability was less than that of Libya, North Korea or Iran.”


GravatarOkay. Here's another


Gravatarthe CIA asked the Justice Department to investigate the outing of a covert CIA agent who wasn't a covert CIA Agent.

The CIA doesn't get to decide who is covert and who isn't when it comes to a law with conditions for being covert.

Read this again:

No law was broken, whatsoever. The woman who WROTE the law (Victoria Toensing) has said the law was not broken and, odds are, she knows more about it than the media.


GravatarOkay. Here's another charming snap of Arthur huffing dirt.

Yes, it's a vice, dammit. It's a solitary vice and he thought it up all by himself, but he's a farm dog after all - it's only reasonable that his vicery would involve the land.


GravatarCrazy fucker, he is. Didn't used to be this bad until The Boy King was anointed, and then he just went completely batshit crazy.

wow, that's what they say about me.

but i've always been sort of a pissed off individual.


GravatarGo ahead, believe whatever you want. I will wait and see what Mr. Fitzgerald (Fitzpatrick?) comes up with. Listen to your Preznit, fuckwads, and don't "prejudge the investigation," or you'll end up looking...well, I guess you can't look any stupider than you already do.

Remember, two weeks ago the official line on all the right-wing blogs was that Rove wasn't involved in the Plame leak in any way, shape or form and it was simply an outburst by Lawrence O'Donnell.

Now they've revised their spin.


GravatarRay Bradbury on c-span2/BookTV, from April this year.


Gravatarhmmm ed sullivan always did look pretty strange, kinda like jack webb with a veneer of charm. they both had this stiff look like they had segmented bodies or something.


GravatarVictoria Toensing is a fucking Repuklican operative. And ragingly partisan.

Fuck her.


GravatarThey're still dragging their dead talking points in here, like they're actually participating in the debate.

it's rather like they DID put 4,000,000 volts through that dead parrot, and are convinced ANY SECOND NOW it absolutely WILL go "VOOM!!"


Gravatar"The CIA doesn't get to decide who is covert and who isn't when it comes to a law with conditions for being covert."

LOL!

OK, RC is offically a parody here.


GravatarVictoria Toensing is a fucking Repuklican operative. And ragingly partisan.

Yeah, she wouldn't know the law SHE WROTE

Only fanatics who hate the President know the law.

And this Plame investigation will destroy the foundations of the Liberal Media and allow for a more impartial media to be founded.


GravatarThe woman who WROTE the law (Victoria Toensing) has said the law was not broken and, odds are, she knows more about it than the media.


Patrick Fitzgerald and the judges seem to have a different opinion.

Funny thing, law.


GravatarSorry, little fellow, but there is only one fact that matters: This is a criminal case, and all of the spin, twisted quotes, and outright Republican lies your noise machine can gin up won't affect the outcome.

The most salient lesson from this whole sorry episode is that Republicans practically across the board place the political well-being of their party ahead of the national security of their country.


GravatarQL,

"Bush arrived with a protection squad of nearly 700 to bolster the 5,000 British boots on the ground, 100 journalists, a personal chef, a food taster, four cooks, medics and a 15-strong sniffer dog team. Special agents and snipers were ordered to "shoot to kill" protesters who got out of line. The giant windmills in London whirled so threateningly that Bush and his journalists were in virtual lockdown at Buckingham, which is probably why there were no "public interest" articles written about this fiasco. When the Blackhawks finally whisked them away, the Queen's prized, century-old rose garden was stomped and shredded beyond repair."
http://www.opednews.com/ samples_...1004_I_know.htm


GravatarHere's another charming snap of Arthur huffing dirt.

Just say "no" to dirt, Arthur.


GravatarAnd this Plame investigation will destroy the foundations of the Liberal Media and allow for a more impartial media to be founded.


Alleluia!


GravatarVictoria Toensing is a fucking Repuklican operative. And ragingly partisan.

Yeah, she wouldn't know the law SHE WROTE


You really can't read, can you?
.


GravatarWhat, no garlic?

I find if I add garlic to the butter it takes away from the scallop. the italian cream sauce with garlic scallops I had at Cafe Sport in sf were awesome, but I tend not to use it with mine.

a recipe from one of my sisters I learened in high school.


GravatarRC:

Are you seriously claiming that the CIA doesn't get to decide which of their operatives are covert or not?


GravatarSpeaking of being crazier than a shithouse rat (R.C., lookin' at YOU!), how about a little write up on L. Ron Habbard? With such things as:


assessment Taking stock of people and ideas in the news.

L. Ron Hubbard
Scientology's esteemed founder.
By Michael Crowley
Posted Friday, July 15, 2005, at 3:16 PM PT

Spiritual leader or sci-fi con artist? Click image to expand.

Spiritual leader or sci-fi con artist?
Our summer of Tom Cruise's madness and Katie Holmes' creepy path toward zombie bridedom has been a useful reminder of how truly strange Scientology is. By now those interested in the Cruise-Holmes saga may be passingly familiar with the church's creation myth, in which an evil, intergalactic warlord named Xenu kidnaps billions of alien life forms, chains them near Earth's volcanoes, and blows them up with nuclear weapons. Strange as Scientology's pseudo-theology may be, though, it's not as entertaining as the life story of the church's founder, L. Ron Hubbard.

To hear his disciples tell it, Hubbard, who died in 1986, was the subject of "universal acclaim" and one of the greatest men who ever lived. Not only did he devise the church's founding theory of Dianetics, which promises to free mankind of psychological trauma, he was a source of wisdom about everything from jazz music to nuclear physics. The official Web site dedicated to his life features subsites that expound upon his brilliant callings: "The Humanitarian," "The Philosopher," "The Writer," "The Artist," "The Poet/Lyricist," "The Music Maker," "The Yachtsman," and "Adventurer/Explorer: Daring Deeds and Unknown Realms." Visitors can hear an audio recording of Hubbard singing one of his own poems or learn about the soundtrack he composed for his 1,000-page sci-fi epic Battlefield Earth (later brought to Hollywood by Scientologist John Travolta). Hubbard's composition "utilized elements from several genres—from honky-tonk and free-swinging jazz to cutting-edge electronic rock. The result is a wholly new dimension in space opera sound." (Sign me up for a copy!)

There's a deep chasm between the erudite, noble Hubbard of Scientology myth and the true identity of the church's wacky founder. To those not in his thrall, Hubbard might be better described as a pulp science-fiction writer who combined delusions of grandeur with a cynical hucksterism. Yet he turned an oddball theory about human consciousness—which originally appeared in a 25-cent sci-fi magazine—into a far-reaching and powerful multimillion-dollar empire. The church now claims about 8 million members in more than 100 countries. The slow creep of Scientology's anti-drug programs into public schools, the presumably tens of millions of dollars the church keeps with the help of its tax-exempt status, and the accusations that the church has convinced people to hand over their life savings, make Hubbard's bizzarro legacy seem less like tragicomedy and more like a scandal. Comparable crackpots-in-chief like Lyndon LaRouche and Sun Myung Moon have had almost no detectable national influence. But famous Scientologists—Cruise, Travolta, the singer Beck, and even—say it ain't so!—the voice of Bart Simpson, have given Hubbard a veneer of popular credibility and his church a perpetual recruitment ticket.

Continue Article

Hubbard always imagined himself a great man of history. "All men are your slaves," he once wrote in a diary entry unearthed during a 1984 lawsuit. He reportedly once claimed to have written a manuscript that contained such brutal truths that anyone who read it went insane or committed suicide. He fancied himself a nuclear physicist, never mind his lack of training, and posited that fallout from Cold War nuclear tests were interfering with Scientology therapies. (Hubbard even wrote a book titled All About Radiation—a swell read, according to one reviewer on Amazon who says, "I understand radiation better and feel like I could survive an atomic explosion somewhere on the planet, if it wasn't, of course, really close to me.") He reportedly constructed the myth that he was a World War II combat hero, when in fact the Navy reprimanded him after a San Diego-based ship he commanded shelled some nearby Mexican islands for target practice.


This guy is what trolls desire to become: rich but out there. WAY out there.


GravatarPatrick Fitzgerald and the judges seem to have a different opinion. Funny thing, law.

Then how come Fitzgerald hasn't charged anybody under that law?

How come he's not even going to use that law?


GravatarAnd this Plame investigation will destroy the foundations of the Liberal Media and allow for a more impartial media to be founded.

Uh, that would be the "liberal media" that's sucking Mehlman's dick 24/7?

Man, you guys are dumb.
.


GravatarDon't waste your time on this tired trool. Save thread; somebody'll need it to stitch the ME back together again after the cabal is finally rotting in prison.


GravatarYeah, she wouldn't know the law SHE WROTE

well, Alberto Gonzalez didn't know the law he wrote himself, so there's a precedent.


GravatarKarl does the walk,
Does the walk of perps,
Yeah, the walk of perps!

Sing it for us, RC!

One more verse, baby!

Take it away!


GravatarThe CIA doesn't get to decide who is covert and who isn't when it comes to a law with conditions for being covert.

And Karl Fucking Rove does? You people are a menace to democracy, intelligence, and morality everywhere.


GravatarJim Lehrer reminds us that Freedom is not Free.

I always thought the 2000 campaign slogan Vote Freedom First was more idiotic. Which freedoms: speech, religion, Roosevelt's Four Freedoms? And how would voting for Shrub ever help that?


GravatarThen how come Fitzgerald hasn't charged anybody under that law?

Uh, because he's still taking testimony?

There, that was easy.

How come he's not even going to use that law?
R.C. Richards | Homepage | 07.16.05 - 5:42 pm | #


Sez who? Sean Hannity?
.


GravatarWouldn't it be more accurate for them to say "Freedom's great when you kill people in it's name but it sucks when you actually use it"?
SWR


Best I can figure, it means: "Our freedom to kill people in the Third World and our freedom to make sure other Americans die.


Gravatarwow, this thread is getting long and it's hard not to step in the troll droppings. saw a big pile up above, but since it started out confusing independant counsel with special counsel, and then launched into convoluted threads of illogic, i didn't bother to follow it down to the signature. i assume it was rc.

i like playing with trolls as much as the next guy, but after a while they start to get overexcited and need to be put down. didn't we have some veteranerians on this site? i think it is rc's time.


GravatarGuess my kitten's name! Hint: The kitten hates hegemony.

"Libby" for liberal


GravatarR.C., you're absolutely right. Rove was probably a pawn in the war between Cheney and the CIA. I have a feeling that the ultimate "target" of the investigation is Big Time Dick.

We'll see, won't we?

We'll be waiting to hear back from you when the indictments are handed down.


GravatarThe CIA doesn't get to decide who is covert and who isn't when it comes to a law with conditions for being covert.


Classic Nixonian imperial presidency thinking.


GravatarAnd this Plame investigation will destroy the foundations of the Liberal Media and allow for a more impartial media to be founded.

jumpsuit judy ought to serve as an abject lesson for every J school graduate. here's to a more impartial media that actually does the job their "credo" proclaims.


GravatarWow, talk about one stupid motherfucker.

Really incredible...


GravatarAre you seriously claiming that the CIA doesn't get to decide which of their operatives are covert or not?

The law makes specifics on who is covert and who isn't. And from what i've heard, Plame is not covert under the law.

You all need to stop sucking up to the Liberal CIA.

Uh, that would be the "liberal media" that's sucking Mehlman's dick 24/7?

The media has barely mentioned Mehlman and they continually cover Dean.


Gravatar The new Harry Potter arrived at 9:00 AM today.
Just returned from my local B & N, having forgotten that it's Harry Day.. A freakin' madhouse..

Greeter: "Are you here for Harry?"
Me: "Um, no, I'm actually here for Nick Tosches' "King Of The Jews."
And they looked at me funny!

(Bought a copy anyway, just to piss off The Pope - alongside Nick and the new Denise Mina. EVERYBODY knows that the best genre fiction is coming out of Scotland these days, right? Right?)


GravatarUh, that would be the "liberal media" that's sucking Mehlman's dick 24/7?

The media has barely mentioned Mehlman and they continually cover Dean.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

I meant his talking points, witless. They are the beginning and the end of all coverage on this.

And from what i've heard...

As you've shown, the value of this is nil.
.


GravatarBut, dirt is a GOOD THING. Dirt and dollies, anyway. Don't you want some?


GravatarMrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari :

Last night I had divers scallops
(wow) sauteed in clarified butter
and garlic, topped with chives
and truffle oil.

I now believe in god.


GravatarUh, because he's still taking testimony?

There, that was easy.


It's been almost 2 years.

What's taking him so long?

I guess that Judith Miller, who is covering up the crime of her liberal friends, is the one reason for the slowness of this case.

The Left outed Plame.


GravatarA quick, "Hello" -- and and even quicker "Goodbye" from the depths of exam-prep hell. For anyone that doesn't already know it (and that's no one here) watertiger is a doll. I leave you (for conflicts of law) with a soupcon of Rich:

Let me reiterate: This case is not about Joseph Wilson. He is, in Alfred Hitchcock's parlance, a MacGuffin, which, to quote the Oxford English Dictionary, is "a particular event, object, factor, etc., initially presented as being of great significance to the story, but often having little actual importance for the plot as it develops." Mr. Wilson, his mission to Niger to check out Saddam's supposed attempts to secure uranium that might be used in nuclear weapons and even his wife's outing have as much to do with the real story here as Janet Leigh's theft of office cash has to do with the mayhem that ensues at the Bates Motel in "Psycho."

Read the rest.


GravatarBDM -

Have you heard the story of why hubbard started scientology? may be apocraphyl, but in essence he was in a bar with some other sci-fi writers and bet them he could invent a religion and get people to actually follow it. and the rest is history.


GravatarI remember that Kitchen
Sink anthology, but alas I never
bought it (I looked at it
lustfully on the shelf at
Forbidden Planet).


I bought the paperback and the hardcover (as a gift), but I could have bought a hardcover signed by both Kurtzman and Elder for 40 bucks... and I didn't! Grrrrrrrrr...

Do you know if any of the stuff
is still in print?


It's definitely out of print, but I've seen copies in used bookstores.


GravatarBut, dirt is a GOOD THING. Dirt and dollies, anyway. Don't you want some?


GravatarI meant his talking points, witless. They are the beginning and the end of all coverage on this.

Those are talking points, those are truth points.

And if the media is reporting the truth, it's a welcome change from their liberal bias and hatred for Bush.


GravatarThe CIA is liberal?

Why wasn't I told?


GravatarCafe Sport in sf

North Beach? Prawn pizza - mmmmm. Endless cappuccinos - mmmmm. Kalimri - not so much.

Foosball! (At least in the old days.)
-


GravatarThe CIA is liberal?

Why wasn't I told?


Many CIA employees, including Valerie Plame, are liberal Democrats from big universities.


GravatarEspionage Act: (1) possession of (2) information (3) relating to the national defense (4) which the person possessing it has reason to know could be used to damage the United States or aid a foreign nation and (5) wilful communication of that information to (6) a person not entitled to receive it.

Under the Espionage Act, the person doing the communicating need not actually know that revelation could be damaging; he needs only "reason to know." Classification is generally reason to know, and a security-clearance holder is responsible for knowing what information is classified.

Nor is it necessary that the discloser intend public distribution; if Rove told Cooper -- which he did -- and Cooper didn't have a security clearance -- which he didn't -- the crime would have been complete.

And to be a crime the disclosure need not be intended to damage the national security; it is only the act of communication itself that must be wilful.

It's also a crime to "cause" such information to be communicated, for example by asking someone else to do so.

-------------

screw the harping on five year bushwa.

-J.T.


GravatarJudith Miller, who is covering up the crime of her liberal friends

JUDITH MILLER? LIBERAL? AHAHAHAHAHAHA!


the Left outed Plame
how can you out someone who isn't a covert agent? Make up your mind. or whatever it is you have.


GravatarGreeter: "Are you here for Harry?"
Me: "Um, no, I'm actually here for Nick Tosches' "King Of The Jews."
And they looked at me funny!


why does this make me think of crowds yelling "Welease Bwian! Welease Bwian!"?


GravatarThe CIA is liberal?


Oddly enough the CIA has supported some "liberal" fronts in the past.

The National Student Organization in the 1960s was a CIA front. Gloria Steinham was one of its first presidents and she had no clue that the CIA was involved.


GravatarJudy is a lefty?

Who knew.

The things one learns from trollz.


GravatarThe critter should be ignored. My critter is gnawing on my arm.


GravatarMiller had to be a liberal to succeed in the Media.


Gravatar"Many CIA employees, including Valerie Plame, are liberal Democrats from big universities."

Name three liberal CIA employees, the liberal universities they attended, and post the transcripts of the liberal classes they took.

We'll give you five minutes.

Go!


Gravatar liberal Democrats from big universities.

into which conservatives rarely are admitted, i suppose.

and so they pretend that being intelligent and well educated is a bad thing. penis envy of the brain.


GravatarIn College, many Conservatives are hounded by liberal professors and leftists.


Gravatar
Anyway, it's a hilarious story, with some great Elder art... since you're such a big Kurtzman fan, I'm emailing you a PDF version I scanned from an "unauthorized source"...


me. me. me too. please, pretty please.

let me know how to contact you.


GravatarThe CIA doesn't get to decide who is covert and who isn't when it comes to a law with conditions for being covert.

Whatever. Are you ex-CIA? You seem to know so much about how they work.

Read this again:

No law was broken, whatsoever. The woman who WROTE the law (Victoria Toensing) has said the law was not broken and, odds are, she knows more about it than the media.
R.C. Richards | Homepage | 07.16.05 - 5:37 pm | #

Whatever. So they've got a special prosecutor
(who, by all accounts, was doing a great job uncovering Democratic corruption in Chicago), a grand jury that's heard tetimony, plus a reporter who's in jail who won't talk about what she knows (couldn't happen to a better person, BTW; Judith Miller deserves to be in jail for her WMD lies). Go ahead and keep repeating that "no law was broken," regardless of what the reality of the situation actually is. If it makes you feel better.

I'll just sit back and watch as the facts beome known. And you will fade away into the woodworks, until the next time the floorboard squeaks, and out come the freaks.


GravatarThe media has barely mentioned Mehlman and they continually cover Dean.

He's getting TV transmissions from an alternate universe where Noam Chomsky, Howard Zinn and Barbara Ehrenrich are the hosts on "Fox and Freinds".


GravatarNotice the penalty for violating 18 USC 794(a) is much stiffer, it's, "...death or by imprisonment for any term of years or for life,..."

watch karl fry.
fry, karl, fry.
extra crispy
all around.

-J.T.


Gravatar Miller had to be a liberal to succeed in the Media.

just like o'rielly, limbaugh, carlson, krauthamer, and the rest of those commie pinkos. oh, and moon.


Gravatarmany Conservatives are hounded by liberal professors and leftists


...for not coming to class or turning in course work.


GravatarMiller had to be a liberal to succeed in the Media.
R.C. Richards


BWAHAHAHA! Oh God, stop it already!! BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!! I'm choking here!! BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!


Gravatar"In College, many Conservatives are hounded by liberal professors and leftists."

RC, did you flunk out of community college?

And now you're looking for somebody to blame it on?

Your agenda becomes clear, sir.


Gravatarliberal Democrats from big universities.

into which conservatives rarely are admitted, i suppose.


I just looked up Plame's bio. She went to Penn State.


Gravatar"Sea Scallops are really made from Sole or Flounder, punched out with a cookie cutter thing.

If they are just called Scallops, then no."

Worse, they are sometimes made from shark. If you get served this in a resturant, you can tell by the faint smell of ammonia wafting from the dish.

I'd advise telling the waiter to take it back and ask for something else to eat.


Gravatar" Miller had to be a liberal to succeed in the Media."

paging bob novak. bob novak to white courtesy phone.

-J.T.


Gravatarwatch karl fry.

now that would be a freedom fry.


Gravatarlet me know how to contact you.

I think my email link is working... send me a message.

I'm getting ready to go out, so I might not get back to you 'til tomorrow, though...


GravatarMiller had to be a liberal to succeed in the Media.

like Bob Novak, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Pat Buchanan, Michael Medved, Mary Matalin, William Buckley, G. Gordon Liddy, Oliver North, Chuck Colson, Pat Robertson, Ann Coulter, Jerry Fallwell, George Will, Bill O'Reilly...


GravatarWhat, no garlic?

I find if I add garlic to the butter it takes away from the scallop. the italian cream sauce with garlic scallops I had at Cafe Sport in sf were awesome, but I tend not to use it with mine.

a recipe from one of my sisters I learened in high school.
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari | 07.16.05 - 5:41 pm | #


Oh my god Cafe Sport! They make the best damn pesto sauce I have ever tasted. Always worth a trip to North Beach just to have a plate.


GravatarRC, you've got only two minutes left to list three liberal CIA employees, the liberal universities they attended, and the transcripts of the liberal classes they took.

Otherwise, we're gonna start suspecting that you're just making shit up off the top of your head!


GravatarBWAHAHAHA! Oh God, stop it already!! BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!! I'm choking here!! BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!

zsuzsu, you are right - the only reasonable response to this yabo. unless he is actually trying to be funny - that would be sad.


GravatarDon't forget Cal Thomas.


GravatarOkay atriots I stopped bitchslapping the fool 'cause smart people (J.T. for one ) suggested no feeding and then youall go a hammering. Well our paid trool is too stupid for words - his true colors...

Many CIA employees, including Valerie Plame, are liberal Democrats from big universities. Yes, yes, it's all the fault of big universities where liberalism and open-mindedness are encouraged - bad universities - the CIA should stop hiring people who go to universities

trool are you proud of the grand old party today? http://tinyurl.com/dcm58

Com'on! Are you?


GravatarMiller had to be a liberal to succeed in the Media.

RC Richards thinks Judy Miller is liberal?

BWHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA!


GravatarIf you get served this in a resturant, you can tell by the faint smell of ammonia wafting from the dish.

if theres a faint smell of ammonia wafting from your meal, you should try another restaurant.


Gravatardo the gravatar folks take off weekends? i put in my .gif early this a.m..

-J.T.


GravatarOnce again, why is anybody paying attention to right wing talking points on this?

Two weeks ago it was that Rove had nothing to do with it and to attack Lawrence O'Donnell.

Now it's "we've always known Rove was involved but it's meaningless".

Nobody's going to know anything about this until we find out who Miller is protecting.


Gravatarjt, mine has been in since thursday. they seem to be a bit backed up.


GravatarIn College, many Conservatives are hounded by liberal professors and leftists.

Prove it.

With EXAMPLES.

Professor and school NAMES.

NAMES of their conservative victims.

PROVE IT!


GravatarKarl does the walk,
Does the walk of perps,
Yeah, the walk of perps!

Sing it, RC!

Bring it home, baby!


Gravatar Don't forget Cal Thomas.

or Rupert Murdoch.


GravatarPlame wasn't covert.

But the left outed her. (Including the leftist CIA [supporting right wing juntas for half a century and countng] and the raging marxist Judith "I was proved fucking right" Miller)

No crime was commited because a person involved in drafting the law who knows nothing more about the facts in the case thaan whats in the media says so, be damned what the judges and the prosecuter in the case who are actually involved think.

Gotcha.


GravatarI find if I add garlic to the butter it takes away from the scallop.

Scallops do have a delicate, sweet flavor, true.

But a gratin with parsley, garlic, butter, parsley and lemon is heavenly.


Gravatarshbinga

well, how about that. got too popular for their own good or the shipment came in from british columbia.

good time to practice patience.

-J.T.


Gravatarthanks dave™©®

just zipped that off to ya.

Kurtzman, the best.


GravatarNobody's going to know anything about this until we find out who Miller is protecting.

Who Miller is protecting...



Delicious.


GravatarRC, sadly, your time is up for listing three liberal CIA employees.

Sorry, but we must conclude that you were just making shit up.

Johnny has a nice parting gift for you, and better luck next time!


GravatarConservatives are hounded by liberal professors and leftists.

yeah, college professors get kinda snarky when you stand up in Comp Lit 156 and start spouting Ayn Rand. Dunno why...

and anyway, unlike public school you're paying to go to college. You're getting "indoctrinated", get your ass out of there and go to Liberty U. or one of those fine bastions of learning. Nobody's forcing you to go to HAHHHVAHHD if you think they'll brainwash you into Communism there.


Gravatarwatch karl fry.

I'm already enjoying every moment (It's going to take quite some time) - watching trools squirm actually increases my pleasure -


Gravatarthe liberal CIA

OK, that's it. Parody troll. Next.


Gravatargarlic is always a good idea.

oh, i know. you are going to say ice cream, chocolate mousse, strawberry shortcake.

but unlike scotty "hand me a tissue" mcclellan, i stand by my statement.

garlic = good.


Gravatarhere is what Pat Buchanan has to say about it.

What is causing the early signs of a press feeding frenzy is a sense –probably correct –something big is coming down. After all, Patrick J. Fitzgerald has probably not spent two years turning over rocks without finding a lizard. And he and Judge Tom Hogan would probably not be sending journalists to jail unless they were onto something serious.
And if Judy Miller went to jail rather than reveal a source, why did the source not release her? Is she covering for a high White House aide with a serious criminal liability?


'course he goes on to say the press is just trying to destroy america (which for very diff. reasons i agree) and to hear him tell it nixon was inoccent. but i do consider him to be a bit brighter than your average wingnut.


GravatarIn College, many Conservatives are hounded by liberal professors and leftists.

PROVE IT, R.C. Richards.

Names (professors and students)

Places (colleges and universities)

Dates

PROVE your charge.

I'm willing to bet you can't. But if you can, good for you. But PROVE IT.


GravatarNo crime was commited because a person involved in drafting the law who knows nothing more about the facts in the case thaan whats in the media says so, be damned what the judges and the prosecuter in the case who are actually involved think.

Victoria T. helped draft the Espionage Act? does she have some special insights into Obstruction of Justice and Perjury too?


Gravatarj.t. -
yeah, but the price is right.


Gravatar"you should try another restaurant.
pretzelattack"

Well, yeah, I'd probobly just walk out at that moment. Shark does have an ammonia smell. I used to live next to a sea, and sometimes caught shark. Tried eating it a couple of times, but yuch, I don't think there is anyway to make it good including soaking it in brine overnight.


Gravatarwhy teachers are evul liburs:

you have to have an open mind.

a flexibility of intellect.

respect for facts.

empathy.

granted this doesn't rule out actual conservatives from being good educators but most neo-theo-cons are unsuited.

-J.T.


Gravatargarlic = good.

Absolutely.


Should we put some in with Karl when we fry him?

A dish fit for kings.


Gravatargarlic = good.

yes. yes. yes. a thousand times yes.

all I was saying is when I fry my lightly breaded bay scallops in butter, I do so quickly at a high heat, add a 1/4 cup of vermouth and 1/2 cup of chopped parsley, cover and lower the heat for a few minutes, then serve them next to rice and lightly steamed vegetables.

that's all I was saying.

garlic = good seems suspiciously like a tautology to me. just saying.


GravatarTrying to get some flexibility in students is why MIT has Chomsky on its staff.

He's an amazing contrarian.


GravatarOf course I'm still a bit "puzzled" as to what "liberal" vs. "conservative" has to do with a criminal investigation.


GravatarMake that an unfunny parody troll. Jeez, what a waste of time. And thread.

I shall now retire to Bedlam. See ya Monday, folks.


Gravatar why teachers are evul liburs:

you forgot imagination.

i know, you'r thinking that RC has a huge freaking imagination, but really no more than a parrot who's been taught to recite harry potter.


Gravatargarlic = good seems suspiciously like a tautology to me. just saying.

Surprisingly, some people think garlic is yucky.


I know. Hard to believe.


GravatarSWR

code speak for "good" vs. "evil."

all liberals are evil commies and all conservatives are true americans.

stupid, but it's the best they can come up with.

-J.T.


GravatarKurtzman, the best.

Like it has wings, it's on its way to you!


GravatarShould we put some [garlic] in with Karl when we fry him?

by all means - i understand the undead hate it, let's make him as uncomfortable as possible.


GravatarTrying to get some flexibility in students is why MIT has Chomsky on its staff.

hmm thats an interesting point.


Gravatargarlic is always a good idea.

oh, i know. you are going to say ice cream, chocolate mousse, strawberry shortcake.

but unlike scotty "hand me a tissue" mcclellan, i stand by my statement.

garlic = good.
shbinga | Email | 07.16.05 - 6:01 pm | #


Ever had garlic ice cream? I haven't, but they have it at the annual Garlic Festival in Gilroy, CA, to which I will someday make a pilgimmage. Mmmmmmm, garlic.

Now I'm really leaving.


GravatarThe trolls are just getting covered in their own fothing saliva over this. You would think if it were as much of nothing as they claim, they would just ignore it until the report vindicated them. Instead we get showed with alternate reality drivel, "judith Miller is a liberal" "Mehlman never gets to tell "his" side (why does the RNC have a side?)' drivel drivel.

Talk about protesting too much.

We know the arguments (per semper fubar):

Karl didn't do anything wrong.
And even if he did, Valerie Plame wasn't a spy.
And even if she was, she wasn't undercover.
And even if she was, everyone knew who she was anyway.
And even if they didn't, Wilson lied.
And even if he didn't, he was a partisan Democrat.
And even if he wasn't, his report wasn't important to anyone outside the Wilson household.
And even if it was, Judy Miller is in jail.


Yeah...We got it. Too bad you guys can't convert this into a gay marriage issue and turn it over to the fundies for a vote...


GravatarOf course I'm still a bit "puzzled" as to what "liberal" vs. "conservative" has to do with a criminal investigation.

Well, when the world crumbles around them, the batshit-crazy trollz will blame anybody but Bushco.

I have a feeling, however, that their little fantasy world has taken one too many direct hits.


Gravatar In College, many Conservatives are hounded by liberal professors and leftists.

Those damn liberal profs and their love for proper capitalization.


GravatarEver had garlic ice cream? I haven't, but they have it at the annual Garlic Festival in Gilroy, CA, to which I will someday make a pilgimmage. Mmmmmmm, garlic.


do they have a garlic queen? garlic races?


Gravatargarlic = good seems suspiciously like a tautology to me. just saying.


not at all. just the initial axiom for nearly all culinary theorems.


GravatarHey, welcome back, gravatar!


Gravatarthe mrs. just invited me out to see war of the worlds. i thought she was being - was being glib. but she knows the history of the war of the worlds. so i guess i'll go.

then we are going to get us some nice hot garlic bread, followed by some serious tongue swapping. see y'all later.


Gravatartoo much garlic is a bad thing. all my freinds who like garlic use too much. but a little garlic is good.

well it's just a blog, and i don't know this for fact, but a charter captain told me that ammonia smell in shark is because they piss through their skin.

my daughters liberal professor was hounded by conservative students until he was forced to take down all anti bush references on his office door.

is arthur play'n with sock puppets?


GravatarHey, welcome back, gravatar!
pie

sorta

.


GravatarWell, when the world crumbles around them, the batshit-crazy trollz will blame anybody but Bushco.

I have a feeling, however, that their little fantasy world has taken one too many direct hits.
pie | Email | Homepage | 07.16.05 - 6:11 pm | #



I'm assuming the spin is based on the assumption that Rove's going to avoid prosecution and is intended to prevent it from hurting Bush in the polls.

But I don't see how this does anything to help Bush in any way even if Rove does avoid jail time. The country's already polarized and anybody who's likely to be swayed by the "liberal media" argument probably already votes Republican.

Similarly, anybody who wants to see Rove in jail already votes Democratic.

So there's about 5% of the population that's open minded about it. And there's no way you want to keep the Iraq/WMDs argument in front of them in a slow news season. And they're also likely to believe the "when there's smoke there's fire" argument.

What's more, if the Bush administration tries to cause bad feelings and polarize people in reponse to this, they're doing exactly what they're accused of doing to Wilson in another situation.

The best thing for Bush is just for this to go away. That's why the wingnut blogs were attacking Lawrence O'Donnell last week. They were arguing that Rove wasn't involved and that the idea he was was crazy leftist spin.


GravatarMany CIA employees, including Valerie Plame, are liberal Democrats from big universities.
Ah, there you go again, with the Big U line.. Look, it's not our fault that the closest that you ever came to a good college was watering the football field!

Ooooh, "Soylent Green's" coming on TCM.. See, R.C., THERE IS a way to make yourself useful!


GravatarRC Richards is a subroutine of The Threadbot™, no?

I just assumed that Atrios realized that for better or for worse, a good many number of people here enjoy intercourse with trolls. So he installed a mechanical-rabbit troll system.

It appears to be capable of generating a few basic troll-personae, simply rotating names from a list.

Yup, pretty sure that RC and his kind are decoys inserted to keep the pot stirred-- or, if you prefer to keep the fish theme going, a spinning lure. And sometimes just a blob of suet or rancid bacon...


GravatarCommie Atheist, If you're going to Gilroy, CA you'll smell the garlic long before you get into town.


GravatarR C is an annoying fuck,
like those summertimne nagging gnats.


GravatarRor, your little tuxie cat is about as cute as he/she can be (and your hint hasn't helped me guess the name at all, with my mind befogged by heat as it is).

I bet those beautiful baby blue eyes will end up goldy-green, like my big tuxies' eyes. Very pretty.


GravatarWasn't the Richards troll yesterday going on and on and on that Plame was not covert? And now she is covert but was outed by Corn? Wow. It's like the Whirl-a-Twirl at the carnival, the trolls just spin around and around.


GravatarAnd I think Rove's minions attempt to hang this whole thing on Powell is so par for their course. The guy sold his entire reputation for them at the UN, and now he's retired, out of the game. Doesn't matter. He never was one of the inner circle, so they figure he doesn't count -- and try to pin the tail on the Colin. They'll never try to pin it on Condi, never. But Colin? Sure, why not? Let's see, who'll they try next?


Gravatarliberal Democrats from big universities.

into which conservatives rarely are admitted, i suppose.


John Stuart Mill is said to have remarked that while it is not true that all or even most Conservatives were stupid, it was true that all or most stupid people were Conservatives...


Gravatar"In College, many Conservatives are hounded by liberal professors and leftists."

I want whatever this troll is smoking!


GravatarThe LIBERAL CIA?


Upon consideration, I DON'T want what he's smoking after all.

Crack is bad!


GravatarThe new Harry Potter arrived at 9:00 AM today.

I finished it an hour ago.

And now begins the long wait for the last one.

"Dear Ms. Rowling:

Type FASTER, DAMMIT!

Ever your faithful reader,"
Chris Tucker


Watch out - the PopenFuhrer's gonna get you for reading that Satanic stuff.

(Sour, miserable old fuck!)


Gravatarbuck fush.


GravatarAll together now, for Rorschach's kitten: AAAAWWWW!!!

Anyone ever see the mad but delectable irony in the acronym WHIG or is it just me?


GravatarI don't know about anyone else, but I'm tired of this "open thread" BS. I might as well be in a frigging chatroom. If that's what I wanted, I would go to one.


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