I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
RICO the lot of 'em!
So Cheney's heart is ok but the rest of him is about to explode.....
i think judy doody knows she'll end up like dr kelly is she talks; she may feel prison is the safest place for her.
yes, by all means, explode this mr cheney. to the microwave!
"He draweth out the thread of his verbosity finer than the staple of his argument."
A genteel slam on the trolls!
Who took my red Swingline stapler?
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Fifth - I'll have a fifth!
Damn, and just when that last thread was perking right along.
I'm watching the original Invasion of the Body Snatchers on Turner Classic Movies and it's reinforcing the feeling I have that there are only a few of us sane people left and the GOP are the pod people who have taken over this country and are twisting it into something different and horrible.
http://tinyurl.com/9u9ok
David Corn replies to the idiotic claim that HE is the person who outed Valerie Plame not Novak.
"They're here already! You're next! You're next, You're next..."
The only non-pod people in Invasion of the Body Snatchers?
The only ones living outside The Matrix?
Sure is frustrating, ain't it, freethinkers?
Hididdly-ho Escharinos! How's it hanging?
Atrios
I just read Bradblog and apparently, Atrios, Comcast.com has been filtering e-mail from afterdowningstreet.org.
(y'all might know this already but just in case)
eeech! just read a couple of paragraphs of "Mad Annie" Coulter's 7/14 column. While the gender of this person is open to speculation, there's no room left for their sanity: stone fucking nuts.
magnolia
were their servers zombied or is comcast just protecting us?
-J.T.
on judy doody's website, she links to a newsmax.com article in support of her.
This one's for Uncle Dick:
Last Throe Update -- July 16
The lack of gravatars is a bit cumbersome. I have a whole stack of post-its and some crayons here, and I've been adding them in by hand.
The lack of gravatars is a bit cumbersome. I have a whole stack of post-its and some crayons here, and I've been adding them in by hand.
Scrolling must be a bitch.
mena: Hididdly-ho Escharinos! How's it hanging?
"The water's cold... and it's deep, too."
How ya, mena?
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Miller links to a newsmax article? No one can EVER claim she's a journalist anymore. It's not even debatable.
I'm good ,Jeffraham! Hint for today: heating pads. (wink)
The lack of gravatars is a bit cumbersome. I have a whole stack of post-its and some crayons here, and I've been adding them in by hand.
Thersites | Email | Homepage | 07.16.05 - 9:03 pm | #
LOL.
Best post ever.
Scrolling must be a bitch.
Eli | Email | Homepage | 07.16.05 - 9:04 pm | #
And best comeback ever.
Anyone have a link about those losers burning Harry Potter books?
From Last Throe Update -- July 16:
The bomb, which police said exploded near a Shi'ite mosque and market, also wounded 82 people.
Wonder if this was motivated by Sunni-Shiite blood feud?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunni_Islam
An utter disregard of history and demographics in Iraq, and the blood flows and flows.
Thank you, Bush, the Civil War President.
http://www.bradblog.com/archives...es/
00001602.htm
link on comcast hijackers
hola, amigos y amigas.
dos cervesas por mi, dos margeritas por mi esposa, y despues vamos a "war of the worlds".
bet it is more fun with a little buzz on (so many things are)
*hic*
So Cheney's heart is ok but the rest of him is about to explode.....
Liars for Bush
I wish!
uncle smokes read that link you posted on the other thread.
i knew rightwing fucktards weren't a new thing, but jeebus.
interesting parallel to today. why are people so greedy? and it's not just greed, for if you are already rich there is only one reason to be richer, and that's power. and to pursue that goal is truly sociopathic.
Anyone have a link about those losers burning Harry Potter books?
Adam 4-4-2 |
Probably jealous because they can't read them - big words, you know.
Can I ask why anyone would spend
good money on books just to burn them?
I mean, isn't that less money they'll have for beer, lottery tickets, cigs, etc.....?
Evening, rational people. Where'd the gravatars go? I was just getting used to them.
If you don't want Christian fanatics to burn your books, just put American flags in 'em.
Can I ask why anyone would spend
good money on books just to burn them?
they are apparently worried about j.k. rowling and want to help support her. beind as usual, they think she is a poor working single mom.
gives me a great idea, tho. i'm going to write a new book for them to burn! i'll make a fortune!
let's see.... maybe somthing about mary magdelene's son becoming a teenage voodoo priest.....turns out he has some jesus blood......
heh heh
New York Times - Jul 14, 2005
By DONALD G. McNEIL Jr. Forty-four government scientists have violated ethics rules on collaborating with pharmaceutical companies, a preliminary review by the National Institutes of Health shows. ...
Good thing the NIH is investigating itself.
David Corn replies to the idiotic claim that HE is the person who outed Valerie Plame not Novak.
Agent Orange
May, the former reporter, did not believe me.
Ofcourse, he did, he just does not care what the truth is.
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Well, burning books to me is very troublesome. You know what burns after books do.
Anonymous | 07.16.05 - 9:16 pm | #
That was me.
Good thing the NIH is investigating itself.
"who is investigating?"
"the house ethics committee"
"oh, wow - miscreants beware, huh?"
-Doonesbury
You know what burns after books do.
"so, if she weighs the same as a duck.... she must be made of wood!"
Goddam motherfucking New York Mets.
OK. Back to work I go.
n69n: "judy doody" ; man, that rocks
Hadn't seen that nickname before.
)
on judy doody's website, she links to a newsmax.com article in support of her.
n69n
damn, that's pathetic.
Eli--Monsieur has command of the remote; ergo, no liveblogging yet.
Fill me in!
Vanilla pound cake with blueberries shortly.
charley: I sometimes wonder that perhaps some folks are grabbing as much as they can, because they know this rampant ever-expanding form of capitalism will collapse just as it did last time.
They're grabbing as much as they can to cushion the fall.
...and my paranoid mind goes further, musing that, when the collapse comes, we might not have a conscientious person in power to save this country from a total fascist takeover.
[no wonder why I get insomnia so much]
Eli--Monsieur has command of the remote; ergo, no liveblogging yet.
Fill me in!
D'oh! I completely forgot!
Been watching the Mets fail miserably against the Braves, as usual...
Monica--the NIH is utterly corrupt, and the science, business and (barely) legal policies of the Chimp Regime have mired it perhaps hopelessly so.
I learned after being defunded that 2 members of my study section had NO training in biostatistics, pharmacology, molecular biology, or genetics. They did not even have PhDs in their respective fields.
Hahahahahaa!
C-Span is running the Young Republicans National Convention right now.
Trashing Kennedy & Durbin right now for not 'addressing the freedom deficit" right now.
What a bunch of fat toads.
Anyone have a link about those losers burning Harry Potter books?
Adam 4-4-2
In a grocery store some of the employees were dressed Goth/Witch costumes. We asked why. The new Harry Potter book was coming out at midnite. Harry Potter Party! Come back and join in!
This is deep in the heart of Texas (well down and over aways)
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Uncle Smokes--I think people are slowly, ever so slowly, beginning to wake up. I don't think they were fooled by the British attacks in terms of us requiring fewer freedoms. And it appears we totally ratfucked the Brits on intelligence, something that isn't being noted in the US press.
ha re: Thersites crayon & post it note gravators and Eli's comments on scrolling.
OT: Scorcese's doc on Dylan (60-66) showing in Sept. on PBS. Can't wait.
David Corn replies to the idiotic claim that HE is the person who outed Valerie Plame not Novak.
Agent Orange
Like shooting fish in a barrel.
Bush SHOULD say this: 'We are fighting them in Iraq so we can fight them here."
Hoo boy.
Editor Boy is Mr. Uptight, and tells Stoner Hitchhiker to throw away his beer... which hits a speed trap cop car.
*snort*
on judy doody's website, she links to a newsmax.com article in support of her.
n69n
Fascinating. Since when does Newsmax protect people in the librul media, especially NYtimes reporters?
The plot thickens.
Diane--the walls look a bit white without the gravatars, don't they?
"stop - listen to me - we're in danger - your in danger! (sees pods in truck) you fools - can't you see? they're here already - you're next!"
all too familiar.
Shbinga--I'm in more danger on the 405, and I travel that almost daily.
Yes, SEED PODS!!!!!!!!!!!
Sallyh - here. A little Cointreau. You know, for the blueberries.
Arthur--where's Auntie GWPDA?
C-Span is running the Young Republicans National Convention right now.
What? They're not in Fallujah kicking insurgent ass?
Gee, I guess The Young Republicans don't much support Bush's war on terra if they're not enlisting to fight in it.
Sir Bedevere:...and that, my lord, is how we know the Earth to be banana-shaped.
Arthur: This new learning amazes me, Sir Bedevere. Explain again how sheep's bladders may be employed to prevent earthquakes.
Mena--I was going to soak them in lemon syrup, but Cointreau...mmm.
Anyone have a link about those losers burning Harry Potter books?
Adam 4-4-2
The stinkin' high-ups in the RCChurch are blubbering about witchcraft and the evil Harry Potter books. Hahahahaha. They need to get their own life so they'll stay out of ours. Even Pope Ratzi has weighed in.
Eli--in other words, comedy gold!
I'm watching the original Invasion of the Body Snatchers on Turner Classic Movies and it's reinforcing the feeling I have that there are only a few of us sane people left and the GOP are the pod people who have taken over this country and are twisting it into something different and horrible.
You may (or may not) have seen the Saturday Night Live skit during the Reagan campaign that was based on that exact premise!
I miss the old SNL.
Eli--in other words, comedy gold!
Gotta love it.
Looks like Jonathan Schaech is the head vamp...
sallyh,
very difficult topic for me. suffice it to say the first year i was in atlanta, there were 365 highway fatalities. one per day.
Uh-oh, there's a haunted-looking blonde babe!
Just for tonight, maybe we could look forward to the day when "Boosh Appointee" wears like a scarlet letter. It's nice to dream, sometimes.
In other news, I got hooked up with all manner of cable today. soon, you deadwood types will have nothing on me, cocksuckers.
just heard the most amazing blues song.... 2:19 sung by John Hammond........
from an album with Tom Waits........
spectacular.....
okay, time for tom cruise fighting martians. just drunk enought to enjoy it, and it is a very short drive.
something i've been meaning to ask before i go.
i wonder what Uncle smokes?
Shbinga--it's a tough one. But the point was that one's chances of dying in a terrorist attack are dwarfed by the possilibity of buying it on the freeway.
Sorry, not "haunted-looking" - more like... crazy.
Of course, having read the synopsis, I know she's been bitten by a vampire.
Oh, and we have a creepy motel guy with a popsicle and a monkey...
...and my paranoid mind goes further, musing that, when the collapse comes, we might not have a conscientious person in power to save this country from a total fascist takeover.
well, we are half the way there now. it all sort of rests on this new scandal. which perhaps the left is too excited about. but one thing is certain, the right is worried.
as for your worry, well, there are degrees. if these pigs win we are in a heap of trouble. and so far, they are winning.
Dammit! I just had two posts get failed! So much for blaming gravatars.
My second new kitten is home now: Spike's a tad larger than Homie, but a whole lot more refined. She's under the bed right now, swatting dog noses that get too intrusive. Pretty kitten!
I like how the longer War Of The Worlds is out, the more of the Martian thingies they show in the trailers...
Trashing Kennedy & Durbin right now for not 'addressing the freedom deficit" right now.
The farkin' FREEDOM deficit? Brout to you by GWB? Hahahahahaha. Enlist, inbreds!
A likely story, Diane. We need photographic proof.
Double Indemnity - two minutes.
Get popcorn. Get Co-cola. Get comfy!
Ok, something that has bothered me for a few days.
Why do victims of the London bombings get a moment of silence (though I believe they deserve it) when victims of the Baghdad almost daily bombings get shit?
Brout (heh)= brought.
sallyh-
my second oldest daughter was supposed to fly to france on 9/12/01. needless to say, her connecting flight thru kennedy was cancelled, but she would not let it stop her; she went two weeks later.
she made it back safely, then drove cross country and back with her boyfriend. two weeks later she was killed in a stupid accident on I75. ladder in the road.
terrorists don't worry me.
so, time for another drink. no more messages tonight.
Diane--you have the most beautiful kitties. Bless the saint!
I hope all is stable with 4Legs and Maxx.
i wonder what Uncle smokes?
Marlboros.
Sorry, child of the '70's though I am, I can handle the sublime gift of weed.
Makes me more paranoid than I already am.
By the way, the name is what my brother and my nephew call me, so I just went with it.
it was better than "The Mole," which was the old nickname (inpsired by border-line agoraphobia).
Enjoyed your posts today, shbinga!
Sallyh - here. A little Cointreau. You know, for the blueberries.
mena
Blue berries!
That's what I had for breakfast.
Small world
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Get popcorn. Get Co-cola. Get comfy!
Does it have vampires and crazy blonde chicks in flimsy tops?
Shbinga--I am so terribly, terribly sorry.
Freedom deficit? It's the highest it has been since the Civil War by my calculations....
That's RAYMOND CHANDLER and BILLY WILDER as the writers.
Snuggle in. Look for the anklet of course.
Oops, I meant "I can't handle the sublime gift of weed."
Or was Freud bumping the keyboard?
Jesus, shbinga, that's terrible - and fucking senseless. I'm so sorry.
Uncle Smokes--regulars, lights, or one of the sacrilege Marlboros?
(I'm a lights girl)
GWPDA - wherwherewhere???? By gar, I should have all the channels now!
damn.
me to, Shbinga.
shbinga-So sorry. That is an awful story.
shbinga - I just read that. Dear god, take care of yourself.
Uncle Smokes--regulars, lights, or one of the sacrilege Marlboros?
Medium 100's in a flip-top box.
I guess I am a heretic.
ChiDy--your secret is safe with us
Uncle Smokes--ah, but I adore heretics
Where's WalterNeff?
This is his story, after all....
(SallyH - you call me Auntie? I've a slough of co-respondents who do the same - East Indians all, as a term of affection and respect. All over the damned subcontinent, I am indeed AuntieGwpda.... Deeply strange. Sometimes I truly think it's a Senior Dominion kind of thing.)
Seriously, what happened to gravatar and haloscan?
Auntie GWPDA--Walter's not been on today, but I'm guessing we might see him later. He's been a regular late shift kind of guy.
I'm very sorry too, shbinga.
Your story is indicative of how people tend to fear the unlikely, but attention-grabbing ways to die (terrorism, certain diseases). And how they gloss over the more common, unheralded ways (car accidents, heart attacks, etc).
mena! Turner Classic Movies of course. The only refuge in troubled times. Hurry!
Uncle Smokes
Regular Marlboro's
Nothing else.
Well, it has been fun lurking for a while. But I shall now leave to try to finish reading Paris 1919 this evening,
Uncle Smokes--ah, but I adore heretics
"New Testament cigarettes: I smoke 'em...He smokes 'em!"
-- Dan Frazer as a priest doing a cigarette commercial in Woody Allen's Bananas.
I kinda like Gravatars- they make it a little harder for the namestealers...
And enjoy War of the Worlds. I got into it. Cruise is an ass, the aliens are morons, but it gives the wingers fits.
And in case you're wondering, Rummy's serious about plasma weapons like that.
shbinga- my deepest sympathies for your loss. thank you for your bitterly valuable perspective, and your courage to continue on in the good fight.
Just for tonight, maybe we could look forward to the day when "Boosh Appointee" wears like a scarlet letter. It's nice to dream, sometimes.
In other news, I got hooked up with all manner of cable today. soon, you deadwood types will have nothing on me, cocksuckers.
mena | 07.1
can't happen that way mena, the woman with the original letter was a saint, and cared for her detractors in their sickness, eventually rising to respected status despite what the town fathers wanted people to believe. no booshie will ever nurse the sick and care for the old.
myself, i prefer branding. on the forehead, like they used to do to runaway slaves. i'm sure cleverer minds can think of what the brand should say...
Well, it's all too much fun, folx. The party is noisy, the parking insane. I think I may call it a night.
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Uncle Smokes
Regular Marlboro's
Nothing else.
I reminded of Frank Booth in Blue Velvet:
"Heineken? Fuck that shit! Pabst Blue Ribbon!"
Eli,
The old Nikon FE is finally back and in great working order. As soon as Spike eases into life at this hacienda, I'll take many many pics.
Shbinga, my deepest sympathies. That's a hard one.
Omnes Omnibus,
Hurry back!
well, if we're admitting to adoring bad sci fi, does anyone else here enjoy 'justice league?' sis has a bunch of 'em on the tivo, and i'm surprised how adult they feel...popped one in for the nephew the other day and almost turned it off, it was so violent and mature.
myself, i prefer branding. on the forehead, like they used to do to runaway slaves. i'm sure cleverer minds can think of what the brand should say...
I think a big ol' "W" would suffice.
mena! Turner Classic Movies of course. The only refuge in troubled times. Hurry!
Word. Most TiVo'd channel in my house. I can't stand most of the crap they show over and over on the premium channels.
The old Nikon FE is finally back and in great working order. As soon as Spike eases into life at this hacienda, I'll take many many pics.
Cool deal. I finally got to post some kitty pics taken by my own hand. Now all I need is my own kitty...
Trashing Kennedy & Durbin right now for not 'addressing the freedom deficit" right now.
And the next speaker will support indefinite extension of the Patriot Act....
Freedom is fine, as long as it's not at home.
Got it, GWPDA! All this dough might just make teevee fun again.
Regular American Spirits. They're dolphin-safe.
Maybe now isn't the time to mention that Haloscan Fleet Academy scientists issued a Minority Report warning that the existing Haloscan platform might prove too brittle to support Gravatar access.
Now it appears that the excess load of Gravatar images caused the dilithium crystals that power Haloscan to fracture. The resulting phase displacements caused the helical matter/antimatter stream in the Haloscan warp core itself to, in effect, fibrillate.
This destabilization accounts for the temporal rifts (e.g. disappearing, "eaten", and out-of-order comments) and eventual termination of Gravatarian input.
In layman's terms, it's what's fucking up Haloscan big time. Or so I fear.
Either this time Atrios, like Icarus, flew too near the Gravatar sun-- or we ought to ascertain Noonian Sung's whereabouts.
Frank Rich says Joe Wilson is the MacGuffin. Great piece 7/17 NYT.
This "freedom deficit" thing - are they saying we have too little or too much?
Double Indemnity - two minutes.
Get popcorn. Get Co-cola. Get comfy!
Thanks for the heads up, Arthur. Luckily, I already had the popcorn made, for reading Patrick Fitzgerald's brief to jail Judy.
Another choice tidbit from him:
Journalists like nothing better than exposing self-seeking behavior by special interests who care nothing for the public good. In this case, they can find it by looking in the mirror.
Ouch. That one had to leave a mark.
myself, i prefer branding. on the forehead
==
Works okay for me. "T" for traitor.
Anklet alert!
After hearing of shbinga's woes, I feel odd posting further silliness.
Also...the heartfelt responses to shbinga show made me a bit teary.
You folks are the best.
I'm out of here for a while.
Hug someone near to you right now.
Does anyone hate the new Daily Show set as much as I do?
On a positive note though, it appears (to me, at least) that Stewart has been more political in his new digs. Probably just me...
I am indeed AuntieGwpda.... Deeply strange.
It works. I use it. Just seems to fit.
stolen from 'judy miller' at americablog's comments:
"rove wasn't burnt in a day."
tee hee.
Goodnight Jeffraham! Sweet dreams.
Samir--I've been enjoying that he's not giving right wing hacks like Bernard Goldberg any quarter.
I'm a purist, only handrolled from drum tobacco.
New Testament cigarettes: I smoke 'em...He smokes 'em!"
-- Dan Frazer as a priest doing a cigarette commercial in Woody Allen's Bananas.
Uncle Smokes
I love that movie.
I love the part with the black woman who was supposed to be J. Edgar Hoover in disguise.
Oh, and the "Miss America" who says Allen is "a subversive mutha."
Night Jeffraham and Curly!
"Maybe now isn't the time to mention that Haloscan Fleet Academy scientists issued a Minority Report warning that the existing Haloscan platform might prove too brittle to support Gravatar access."
Get Scottie to turn his still off,
and the Enterprise will have plenty of power.
Little Brøther | Email | 07.16.05 - 9:53 pm | #
winner of the Ubergeek of the Day award, contender for SuperscifiNerd of the Month commendation.
superior, my bro, just superior.
we dislike "standard" or "undies outside" comix and their related products -- we nearly vomitred (not a typo?) at this particularly mindless attempt to turn Superman into an ethical discussion¤ -- but we did once overhear something on Justice League that was funny. Although very, very sick.
Character 1: (dies horribly in some kind of crash, or is sucked into a jet engine, or something)
Character 2, who adores 1: "Pudding!" (a pet name)
Character 3: "That probably describes him pretty well right about now."
¤"if Socrates' one opponent was right and we should be cynical, why does Superman do good? Surely nothing compels him!"
uhh, gee, we don't know, maybe the example ought to be disqualified for RELYING ON AN UNUSUALLY BADLY WRITTEN CHILDREN'S STORY. But then the comparison between Socrates, held aloft by his most adoring disciples and set jewel-like in a fake environment with nobody coming close to him, and Superman, who always wins without really so much of anything in the way of a story, is tempting.
*Exception: the old Max Fleischer cartoons, which are high art ("...or we kill American girl!"), and the George Reeves serials (where he resented the role and got fat so before steelman jumps out a window his steely belly flops and rumbles like a tarp in the wind).
shbinga,
I'm so sorry. Take care of yourself.
shbinga,
my condolences. How terrible for you.
best wishes,
Sarah Deere
"that Stewart has been more political in his new digs"
I thought it was part of the "new" daily show.
This whole "Freedon Deficit" hooey the Young ReThugs are spouting is typical of their party. They invent an identity for liberals and apply any number of ridiculous, made up attributes to us. Limpballs is a master of making shit up. He regularly tells his moronic listeners what liberals think without benefit of actually knowing or working with any of them. Hidious pigs, all of them.
shibinga, bringing it up must open the wound.
I wish you peace.
"Limpballs is a master of making shit up. He regularly tells his moronic listeners what liberals think"
There are lots of ex-military liberals.
This can't be resonating right with this group.
evening, batties
I'm feeling naked without my gravatar...
and vulnerable
Heh...
It's been a good week, hasn't it? I mean, the MSM is finally paying attention to the Rove scandal and the LA Times wrote a wonderful article about the Gropinator being on muscle mag payrolls to the tune of about a cool million a year...
About time we won.
shibinga,
I don't even know what to say about this, other then if I'd lose my son, I think it would break me.
shbinga- my deepest sympathies
of course me as well. i imagine he won't see it now. what an awful pain.
not worried about terrorists. worried about this increasingly fascist govt. which is using, even inciting terrorists in order to maintain a perpetual state of fear. that's just sick.
hopefully it's not as coordinated as it sounds in the above paragraph, yet i still can't get over that noor khan thing. these bastards just don't care.
ChiDy, enjoy your wine. I'm on my second glass of Elitist Chardonnay (TM). We're having a very special and Elitist dinner tonight...wild-caught salmon which is being grilled on a cedar plank even as I type. For dessert: watermelon!
I'm not gone yet -- just threatening to leave. 
I have a dilemma -- If I go to get beer, I'll lose my parking space. If I wait another 30 mins., I can park in the landlord's driveway. If I start drinking @ 9:30, I'll miss Timmeh!
Oh, horrible decisions!
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Jeffraham--oh, skip Fat Timmeh. Not good for the BP, anyway.
your rovian quote of the day, via corrente:
The hungry sheep look up, and are not fed, But swoln with wind and the rank mist they draw, Rot inwardly, and foul contagion spread (Milton)
Get the darned beer. The Atrios crowd will be at your house by 10.
Buy lots!
I don't even know what to say about this, other then if I'd lose my son, I think it would break me.
Doug
No, it won't. Believe that, at least.
Bend maybe. Change. Not break.
JP - wait on the beer. It's good practice and losing the parking space is only a test of will.
Doug--we've got a lot of people on this board who've served in all branches of the military, some of whom loved their careers. It's not working for them, that's for certain.
Jeffraham--SNPA, all the way!
Here's 10 bucks for the beer kitty.
I just found out who watertiger is taking to the Elvis Costello concert.
Well, my son is still here, sleeping in his room, the Marine Corp has finally given up with the recuitment harrasment. And he'll be attending college next fall, so all's well here.
I just found out who watertiger is taking to the Elvis Costello concert.
Is it me? Is it me?
Thersites--tell, or no Connemara for you.
Charles "Ponyass*" Johnson is the blog equivalent of Limballs. He's zeroed in on the same market. Same psychology too:
Limpballs: "dittoheads"
Johnson: "minions"
Dittoheads endless praise of Rush.
Minions endless praise of Ponyass.
* Ponyass = "ponytailed asshole".
I just found out who watertiger is taking to the Elvis Costello concert.
Well I already know of course.....
I'm ex-Army. Long time ago, but it hurts to see what's happening now to the military, and the US.
http://www.latimes.com/features/...ines-
bookreview
shibinga,
she made it back safely, then drove cross country and back with her boyfriend. two weeks later she was killed in a stupid accident on I75. ladder in the road.
terrorists don't worry me.
How I feel for you. I'm so very sorry to hear that.
Peace.
cedar plank even as I type.
deja pseu
I'll never forget the look on Melissas face when she ordered that and the waiter placed in front her. I guess she didn't understand the Plank part.
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Sallyh: Here's 10 bucks for the beer kitty.
I hope you're not serious -- the IRS refund came this week, and you've supported me like a lost waif, anyway. I'll have to send you something really nice if/when the Qore gig comes through.
.
yes, but Auntie GWPDA, you know everything.
Jeffraham--nah, I'll let you buy the beer tonight
The answer to the Elvis Costello/watertiger mystery is quite intriguing.
Sallyh,
I've jsut fired up the espresso machine...what's for desert?
Man, Walter's swell.
*Exception: the old Max Fleischer cartoons, which are high art ("...or we kill American girl!"), and the George Reeves serials (where he resented the role and got fat so before steelman jumps out a window his steely belly flops and rumbles like a tarp in the wind).
kei & yuri | Homepage
are you jealous that dad and i share audio copies of the 40s era radio superman serial? nyah, nyah...
sure, it's a two dimensional cartoon universe. but the key word is 'cartoon.' the more pretentious 'graphic novel' can have delusions of literary glory, but the whole point of a cartoon: reduce a narrative into x vs. y. the art comes in seeing what can be made of such a reduction.
a friend gave me the 'kingdom come' comix, and i'm a marvel reader so of course i approached them with some minor disdain. but once i turned off the phd anthro riddle part of my brain, i was able to embrace the romance and beauty of a simpler universe, one in which wonder woman could chide kal-el for his weakness to god-forged swords, and junior superheroes could embrace a flawed union with a madman and former evildoer simply to piss off their parents...
or dessert...
Doug--just be careful once he gets to college. The recruiters are all over the place, and they're pretty aggressive.
The hungry sheep look up, and are not fed, But swoln with wind and the rank mist they draw, Rot inwardly, and foul contagion spread (Milton)
chicago dyke
i'm not all smart like some of you guys, but that makes me remember why i used to wade through Milton.
days are too dark for my fragile ego to handle that, have to stick with the Buk.
yes, but Auntie GWPDA, you know everything.
Well, every once in awhile, yes. True enough. The problem of course that being fey isnt a constant. The intervening periods tend to invalidate the consistency.
Okay, a mad dash for the beer... brb.
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Jeffraham
don't get any for me. I've still got a six-pack of Rolling Rock. That will last me a week or two.
Get the darned beer. The Atrios crowd will be at your house by 10.
Buy lots!
Doug
Can someone stop by and pick me up?
I'll be waiting down by I-45
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Matthew--I have fresh blueberries, so vanilla pound cake again. It's versatile. Monsieur likes it with Chubby Hubby Ice Cream. Mademoiselle likes it with vanilla ice cream, hot fudge and walnuts. I like it best with strawberries, but blueberries are in season, so I'll go that route with a little whipped cream.
shbinga- I don't know what to say,except so sorry. but I hope our words help a little bit.
Agave--road trip!
It's a Corolla, so it might be a little snug...
JP,
you need to invest in some of those road cones with flashing lights...or maybe put down police line and draw one of those chalklines on the parking space.
" Doug--just be careful once he gets to college. The recruiters are all over the place, and they're pretty aggressive.
Sallyh | Email | Homepage | 07.16.05 - 10:13 pm | # "
He's had a political education from me. I think he knows better then to put himself in harms way for the bunch of morons who now run things.
Yep, get the beer indeed. If I'm coming over you better get extra. Heh.
shbinga, so sorry.
All right! Monsieur put on Lake Placid, just pour moi!
Goddess, I love that man.
Can someone stop by and pick me up?
I'll be waiting down by I-45
Penn?
Mademoiselle likes it with vanilla ice cream, hot fudge and walnuts
I'd like to place an order for one of those...is a mademoiselle included?
JP,
you need to invest in some of those road cones with flashing lights...or maybe put down police line and draw one of those chalklines on the parking space.
matthew
That'd work!
hurts to see what's happening now to the military, and the US.
Doug | Email | Homepage | 07.16.05 - 10:10 pm | #
I can totally relate. I don't recognize much of it anymore. The military will heal itself; it always does. The huge challenge will be to see how the country accomplishes that...
The feeble-minded spout talking point tripe about Plame's cover, 'analyst', 'desk job'.
Costly, costly.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/latimest...s/
shadesofcover
WASHINGTON — Several months after her identity as a CIA operative was exposed in a newspaper column, Valerie Plame had dinner with five of her classmates from the agency's training academy.
Four had left the CIA, and they spent the evening catching up on what they'd done during their clandestine careers, as well as the jobs and moves that followed. But even though Plame's "cover" had been cracked wide open, her dinner companions didn't pry for details. Even in that tight circle, no one wanted to spill any more secrets.
"Cover is a mosaic, it's a puzzle," said James Marcinkowski, a former CIA case officer who attended the dinner. "Every piece is important [to protect] because you don't know which pieces the bad guys are missing."
etc.
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It's a Corolla, so it might be a little snug...
Sallyh
Sometimes I wonder what I'd do if you weren't here.
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Matthew--Mademoiselle is in San Diego right now--and you'd have to deal with Monsieur and the Ramset of Virtue.
Sallyh, bad news on this years wild blueberry picking in the Catskills. Apparently the gpysy moths ate up all the bushes.
I guess, I could fire up the old monster Buick. That will hold lots of folks if they are not embarassed to sit on some laps.
In the icebox right now, calling out to me: lean pastrami, swiss cheese, dill rye bread, bavarian sauerkraut and thousand island dressing....
Hmmmmm. What shall I do?
Matthew--Mademoiselle is in San Diego right now--and you'd have to deal with Monsieur and the Ramset of Virtue.
you don't even want to know what would happen on this end! It would make Gitmo seem like a day at disney world
oh, that's right- they don't believe in the first adm over there any more than we do:
Sunday July 17, 2005
The Observer
A controversial fly-on-the wall account of the Iraq war by one of Britain's most senior former diplomats has been blocked by Downing Street and the Foreign Office.
Publication of The Costs of War by Sir Jeremy Greenstock, UK ambassador to the UN during the build-up to the 2003 war and the Prime Minister's special envoy to Iraq in its aftermath, has been halted. In an extract seen by The Observer, Greenstock describes the American decision to go to war as 'politically illegitimate' and says that UN negotiations 'never rose over the level of awkward diversion for the US administration'. Although he admits that 'honourable decisions' were made to remove the threat of Saddam, the opportunities of the post-conflict period were 'dissipated in poor policy analysis and narrow-minded execution'.
Regarded as a career diplomat of impeccable integrity, during his time in post-invasion Iraq, Greenstock became disillusioned with the Coalition Provisional Authority, led by Paul Bremer. Their relationship had deteriorated by the time Greenstock returned to Britain.
The decision to block the book until Greenstock removes substantial passages will be interpreted as an attempt by ministers to avoid further embarrassing disclosures over the conduct of the war and its aftermath from a highly credible source.
Officials who have seen the book are understood to have been 'deeply shocked' over the way in which Greenstock has quoted widely from 'privileged' private conversations with Tony Blair, Foreign Secretary Jack Straw and from the private deliberations of the UN Security Council.
Greenstock has been asked to remove all these sections before the book can be cleared for publication. 'I think some people are really quite surprised that someone like Sir Jeremy has done this,' said one source. 'In particular the way he has quoted private conversations with the Prime Minister.' Greenstock is also thought to be scathing about Bremer and US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/vie...=57906&
forum=17
I just had some blueberries. It's nice they color your teeth black.
No, we're not jealous. We just throw American girl in octopus tank. Let's see Superman save her there! Instead of fighting the octopus (a fait accompli) he must fight his desire to see the meddlesome bitch (whom he told to stay in Metropolis) get octopussed!
I knews someone in college who figured out that she could park right behind the buildings her classes were in by leaving on her hazard lights. The theory was that the campus police would assume there was an emergency and she wouldn't get a ticket.
She never did get a ticket. What was remarkable was that she could figure out how to avoid getting tickets and get great parking spaces, but seemed genuinely surprised when her battery died.
Can someone stop by and pick me up?
I'll be waiting down by I-45
Hahahahaha. Maybe I can hitch a ride? Our Drinking Liberally group meets at a local brew pub. I kid you not, some of the beers they have there are potent. One time I had 3 beers (don't remember the name of it but it was red) and had to get a ride home non-drinking pal. This was over 2 1/2 hours. The next morning I went to pick my car up and the lot was half full. They don't open till afternoon. Heh.
Doug--just be careful once he gets to college. The recruiters are all over the place, and they're pretty aggressive.
Are you the Doug asking about St. John's college a few nights ago? It was a wonderful anti-Vietnam war campus. But a number of faculty are buried in the present neo-con shit. Straus taught there his last few years, and the facist dean at the time (Goldwin) has buried himself in Washington think tanks.
when her battery died. Thersites
That and nobody stopped to help.
Shbinga, my heart goes out. I am so sorry for your unfathomable loss. My thoughts and prayers are with you.
She never did get a ticket. What was remarkable was that she could figure out how to avoid getting tickets and get great parking spaces, but seemed genuinely surprised when her battery died.
The wages of sin is death. Of one kind or another.
shbinga -- you probably aren't here anymore, but I'm here for you.
I just had some blueberries. It's nice they color your teeth black.
Echidne of the snakes
They've got oodles of anti-oxidants, too. Yum.
What was remarkable was that she could figure out how to avoid getting tickets and get great parking spaces, but seemed genuinely surprised when her battery died.
For some odd reason, this reminds me of the sexual behavior of an old girl friend.
Dept of Holy Fucking Shit
Report: Secret Aid Planned for Iraq Vote
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/1...=rssnyt&
emc=rss
By DOUGLAS JEHL and DAVID E. SANGER
Published: July 17, 2005
WASHINGTON, July 16 - In the months before the Iraqi elections in January, President Bush approved a plan to provide covert support to certain Iraqi candidates and political parties, but rescinded the proposal because of Congressional opposition, current and former government officials said Saturday.
In a statement issued in response to questions about a report in the next issue of The New Yorker, Frederick Jones, the spokesman for the National Security Council, said that "in the final analysis, the president determined and the United States government adopted a policy that we would not try - and did not try - to influence the outcome of the Iraqi election by covertly helping individual candidates for office."
The statement appeared to leave open the question of whether any covert help was provided to parties favored by Washington.
The article, by Seymour M. Hersh, reports that the administration proceeded with the covert plan over the Congressional objections. Several senior Bush administration officials disputed that, although they recalled renewed discussions within the administration last fall about how the United States might counter what was seen as extensive Iranian support to pro-Iranian Shiite parties.
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The article cites unidentified former military and intelligence officials who said the administration went ahead with covert election activities in Iraq that "were conducted by retired C.I.A. officers and other non-government personnel, and used funds that were not necessarily appropriated by Congress." But it does not provide details and says, "the methods and the scope of the covert effort have been hard to discern."
Representative Jane Harman of California, the top Democrat on the House intelligence committee, issued a statement saying that she could not discuss classified information, and noting: "Congress was consulted about the administration's posture in the Iraqi election. I was personally consulted. But if the administration did what is alleged, that would be a violation of the covert action requirements, and that would be deeply troubling."
etc.
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"Now it appears that the excess load of Gravatar images caused the dilithium crystals that power Haloscan to fracture"
Or maybe it's because gravatar.com is down? Good guess though.
Dept of Holy Fucking Shit
or Dept of Yeah, I'm not the least bit suprised.
karin--the price tags are a pretty good indicator of a poor crop. $8 on sale for a quart (normally $11)
For some odd reason, this reminds me of the sexual behavior of an old girl friend.
spinoza
Doesn't tho!
Manipulative and devious as fuck, but some how clueless.
Auntie GWPDA--if you can't figure it out, ask Arthur
In the months before the Iraqi elections in January, President Bush approved a plan to provide covert support to certain Iraqi candidates and political parties, but rescinded the proposal because of Congressional opposition, current and former government officials said Saturday.
I notice the first sentence of the Times article contains the obligatory phrase "government officials said".
They are responding to some actual investigative reporting by Hersch, but in the Times world, nothing ever happens until the admin. admits it.
For some odd reason, this reminds me of the sexual behavior of an old girl friend.
spinoza
Doesn't tho!
Manipulative and devious as fuck, but some how clueless.
Doesn't remind me of any old girlfriends, but it sure reminds me of *something*...
Matthew--got a daughter?
I like the old Superman because Lois was believable as a hardboiled news woman. She'd have broken the story. The second one reminds me unconfortably of Hugh Sidey. He's never broken anything but wind.
Max Fleischer and his brother were geniuses. A Disney product will not pass the doors of my house. Not ever.
Chi dyke:
After quite literally decades of struggle and theorizing, my friends and I realized that the superhero genre is just fundamentally skewed. It has a foreground of the loosest and most everything-at-once sf and fantasy stuff--while the background is everyday reality. If that background starts getting away from our world, it becomes more traditional sf/fantasy.
This is why stories like WATCHMEN and KINGDOM COME are so much fun: all the superhero stuff actually affects the background in a more sensible manner. It's also why new strips can start out cool, but begin to fray as time goes by. The Marvel and DC Universes are completely unworkable by any standard, but have become especially absurd in trying to play the hipness game--wouldn't there be superhero soaps on daytime TV? Wouldn't cosplay be a lot bigger in the Marvel cosmos? And what dorky kids would watch Xtreme Sports in a world with super-heroes?
But them's the rules: it's our world as the background. It's kind of like opera: get beyond the fact that everybody's singing everything and you can really enjoy yourself.
Blueberries are best eaten outside, straight from the bush. I think I will go and have a few more.
"if you can't figure it out, ask Arthur"
Hmmmmmmm.. We're thinking rachel?
Holy shit, fer sure!
I leave to get beer, and come back to this????
Freedumb IS on the march. The buy elections on every continent, now.
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Sallyh,
no daughter, I have a little dude
QC- hardly shocking. perhaps you recall (sorry for lack of link) but the original plan was for iraq to hold iowa-style caucuses (i've had wine, fuck the spelling) instead of one-person one-vote elections. when that seemed likely to encourage new legions of suicide bombers, they dropped it, but c'mon: are you really surprised that boosh and co would drop time, money and effort into their chosen minions' elections schemes?
what's funny to me: how many of their supposed 'patsies' have turned around and shown shocking lack of loyalty to the new colonial overlord's wishes. "how dare they call for a pan shia state!" i can just hear the old OSP folks muttering.
no, for the cabal, there is no such thing as a free and fair election. not here, nor anywhere their shit stained hands touch.
President Bush approved a plan to provide covert support to certain Iraqi candidates and political parties, but rescinded the proposal because of Congressional opposition
QuentinCompson
Never believed that from the begining.
The first part but not the second.
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Jeffraham--we're erasing our brains with Lake Placid right now
Hark! I see gravatars returning!
Matthew, your little guy is so cute it's illegal.
A Disney product will not pass the doors of my house.
We first saw the Fleischer Superman as kids watching the Disney Channel and we're pretty sure Eisner bought the rights to the DVDs (although the one we have is from a different label). Also Saludos Amigos is good, from a different time and all. Disney did some good stuff when still was Disney: Fantasia, Peter & the Wolf, the historical shorts in which the misplaced Minutemen cleaned up after the Boston Tea Party.
New WaPo treasongate piece up:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...av=rss_politics
Reading it now...
So now the word Gravatar is back
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Was anyone else watching "The Day After Tomorrow" on HBO tonight? That was such a baaaaaaaaaaad film.
Sallyh: Jeffraham--we're erasing our brains with Lake Placid right now
Old tapes of winter Olympics...?
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shibinga
i am so sorry
i know we are just words on a screen, but *hugs* all the same
Err, I spoke a post too soon. They still screw up the posts.
It's the Judy Miller Show!!!!!!!!!!!!
Devon is delightful. Totally so! And your pictures are really good.
Jeffraham--no, the crap monster movie version
Still don't know about St. Johns. Their financial aid people haven't gotten back to me with their offer.
Since my son is so young, I think he really just wants to go the local college U of M Missoula, for the first year.
They've got some solid writing profs, which is one thing he's interested in working on
Jeffraham--no, the crap monster movie version
"You can't take a cow by eminent domain!"
Well, *that's* no longer true...
Dr Strangelove aired today om TCM.
The President of the United States was named Merkin Muffley like our own MERKIN PATRIOT. merkin = slang for female pubic area or pudendum; muff = a woman's pubic area or genitalia, or specifically, the pubic hair/fur/wig for the female crotch. Coincidence?
Funnier yet General Turgidson twice repeated the Bush White House line re Turdgate about "waiting 'til all the facts were in" before commenting on Jack D. Ripper's mental state.
A classic.
kei & yuri, you're that young? Now I'm depressed.
For Disney to own Max Fleischer's work is an artistic crime.
I'll always have my memories and the pirated copies of Betty and Popeye.
Free Betty, roll back the copyrite period.
shbinga - jeepers. Condolences from me.
Echidne,
Thanks
Oh. JeeeeeZZZZZ
I rather have trolls
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In the months before the Iraqi elections in January, President Bush approved a plan to provide covert support to certain Iraqi candidates and political parties, but rescinded the proposal because of Congressional opposition, current and former government officials said
That sleazy prick has some nerve interfering in elections in OTHER countries. His own *success* here in freedom luvin 'Merika is a showcase for how not to run a democracy
The military will heal itself; it always does. The huge challenge will be to see how the country accomplishes that...
My fear is that even on indictment Rove will not resign, but instead the Red vs. Blue struggle will take on more of the Blue vs. Grey overtone that has always lurked in the background.
People, about 30% of the American public has a view of 'Murika that is totally unrecognizable to us.
'Murika is not our country, and does not want what the majority of the American people want. It doesn't value tolerance, nor personal freedom, nor freedom of and from religion. It does not value social welfare nor social or technological progress.
These are the people the Company manipulates, and these are the people Bu$hCo will continue to manipulate.
Bu$hCo is not going to back down, I'm afraid.
I hope the Democrats and what remains of the Agency as Wilson/Plame knew it are thinking about what their moves will be if the Company orders Gonzales to dissolve the Special Prosecutor's office with Wrepublican Congress and the Supremes to back him up.
Yes, Thea--
God smack me down, I keep vowing I'll be smart enough NOT to watch the next Roland Rmmerich film, but I keep succumbing...
Agent Orange--having missed part of the TCM movie, I slipped on my DVD and enjoyed--all the while cringing--all over again.
"We must not allow a mine shaft gap!"
Sallyh: Jeffraham--no, the crap monster movie version
Oh. I seriously expected that it was some new, hip alcohol that I -- clueless as I am about most things trendy and/or cultural -- knew nothing about.
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Oh and President Muffley (Muff)and the real President BUSH. Kubrick was 40 years ahead of reality.
Buried in bullshit WaPo piece:
A lawyer familiar with Rove's testimony hedged a bit on who precisely told Rove about Plame, saying it may have come secondhand from another aide, as well as from Novak.
Agent Orange--I love the names of the characters in the movie. Corp. Batguano is a personal favorite
A day later, Cheney's top aide, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, told Cooper he had heard the same thing about Plame, and a senior administration official flagged the role of Wilson's wife, almost in passing, to The Washington Post's Walter Pincus.
I guess I'm surprised that they apparently broke the law violating covert action protocols to do the election rigging. Rep. Harman sounds like Congress may have been given assurances, which would be more ammo AWOL passes out to those who are becoming stronger, politically, than he is, lame-duck wimp and all.
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This is why stories like WATCHMEN and KINGDOM COME are so much fun
be sure to check out TOP TEN, also by alan moore.
its a hill-street-blues style gritty cop drama set in a city where everyone has a superpowr, even the homeless!
reading the wapo thing now..."an element of pretense"
Corp. Batguano is a personal favorite
Sallyh
I guess he was batshit crazy!
But in late September, a senior White House official was quoted as telling The Post at least six reporters had been told of Plame before Novak's column, "purely and simply out of revenge."
Haven't seen it described quite this way before. Was Powell a "White House official"? Was Tenet?
pbg- i confess: i'm not a real comix devotee. my sister has never forgiven me for taking the 'dark phoenix' series with me to the bathtub, while i was at home from college and she was away on outward bound. "you did WHAT???" she exclaimed over the slightly wrinkled formerly pristine pages...
anyhoo- comix in general have never appealed to me (apart from Red Sonia's unicorn sequence) b/c they are well, as predictible and exciting as my ex's "i am 18!" porn collection. the superpeople i want to see never seem to make it into print, while i'm supposed to be motivated to slaver over ultimate good/evil by the likes of "black vulcan" and "hawkgrrl." as a woman, a sci-fi reader since i was very young, etc., comix just seem lazy and uninspired. seriously: who can compete with F. Herbet, or V. Vinge, or O. Butler?
but it's culture, personal passion, a way to kill time in the doctor's office- so i don't judge. i was merely somewhat impressed that a 21min commercial television show could present such novel-for-tv themes as i recently saw in JL. i know from what that comes, and if the tv version doesn't do it 'justice,' i'm still more motivated to blank some brain cells to it than i am the latest edition of 'new york's all white "friends"' or 'everybody loves some fat white guy' or whatever. it's a low standard, after all...
somebody throw me a seanbaby link, i've lost it...
"...The president we get is the country we get. With each president the nation is conformed spiritually. He is the artificer of our malleable national soul. He proposes not only the laws but the kinds of lawlessness that govern our lives and invoke our responses. The people he appoints are cast in his image. The trouble they get into and get us into, is his characteristic
trouble.
Finally the media amplify his character into our moral weather report. He becomes the face of our sky, the conditions that prevail: How can we sustain ourselves as the United States of America given the stupid and ineffective warmaking, the constitutionally insensitive lawgiving, and the monarchal economics of this president? He cannot mourn but is a figure of such moral vacancy as to make us mourn for ourselves."
E.L. Doctorow on Bush
Stadium Blitzer
I was reading today that John Q. Adams while he was in congress said that Millard Fillmore was a true and courageous worker against slavery. So, here's more evidence that Bush is the worst president in history.
A day later, Cheney's top aide, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, told Cooper he had heard the same thing about Plame, and a senior administration official flagged the role of Wilson's wife, almost in passing, to The Washington Post's Walter Pincus.
wtfwjd?
One day this will be a book and a movie AND a TV series!
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New WaPo treasongate piece up:
wtfwjd?
Wow! Well worth the read. Somebody in the msm actually put this all together in a concise way.
chidyke,
how about throwing a .com at the end!
It all started in the early days of 2002 with Joseph C. Wilson IV, a flamboyant ex-diplomat who had left government for a more lucrative life of business consulting.
we're meant to read that as "gay 'n' greedy."
"Pope Ratzi"
En Italiano, Papa Ratzi?
I'll never forget the look on Melissas face when she ordered that and the waiter placed in front her. I guess she didn't understand the Plank part.
Heh. Nothing like having a slab of wood with a piece of fish on top plunked down in front of you.
"The super quick captures and identification of these terrorists show that Britian officials knew who and where these people were therefore 52 Brits died because their government was too busy appeasing their anti--war faction to protect their citizens.
If we cater to our loonies how many of us will ie for appeasment?" - Lucianne
When will you people wake up to the danger at hand?
When will you people wake up to the danger at hand?
We're well aware of the danger.
It's name is Bush.
This WaPo article runs some of the leak back up to the drippy dicks at the top.
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In Plame Leaks, Long Shadows
Rove Knew of CIA Agent, Husband's Role in Criticizing Bush
By Jim VandeHei and Mike Allen
Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, July 17, 2005; A01
Karl Rove had a secret.
In public, he was masterminding President Bush's reelection and brushing off suggestions he had played any part in an unfolding drama: the unmasking of CIA operative Valerie Plame. In private, the senior White House adviser was meeting, on five occasions, with federal prosecutors to tell what he knew about the matter.
The story he would tell prosecutors did not seem to square with the White House's denial that it had played any role in one of the most famous leaks since Watergate. Rove told prosecutors he had discussed Plame in passing with at least two reporters, including the columnist who eventually revealed her name and role in a secret mission that would raise questions about Bush's case for war against Iraq. At the same time, other White House officials were whispering about Plame, too.
It is now clear: There has been an element of pretense to the White House strategy of dealing with the Plame case since the earliest days of the saga. Revelations emerging slowly at first, and in a rapid cascade over the past several days, have made plain that many important pieces of the puzzle were not so mysterious to Rove and others inside the Bush administration. White House officials were aware of Plame and her husband's potentially damaging charge that Bush was "twisting" intelligence about Iraq's nuclear ambitions well before the episode evolved into Washington's latest scandal.
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This article, based on interviews with lawyers and officials involved in the case, is an effort to step back from the rapidly unfolding events of recent weeks and clarify what is known about the Plame affair and what key factors are still obscure. Those people declined to be identified by name because special prosecutor Patrick J. Fitzgerald has asked that closed-door proceedings not be discussed.
etc.
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"lawyers and officials" - I know, but it's still interesting to know what it is that they want you to know.
Don't farking talk to morons. K? Hopefully the thread will remain *clean*
It's like they're all in colusion against us everywhere, up and down. I don't think Fitz will be able to weather the huge broadside of Rovian lies headed his way next week. Nobody could. I hope he makes it.
When will you people wake up to the danger at hand?
I think N. Korea has pretty low incidents of terrorism...and I'm sure they'd be happy to have you.
Sorry bigvic, got a little carried away.
I was reading today that John Q. Adams while he was in congress
From the days when American Presidents were sometimes men of academic achievement and intellectual curiosity. One of my favorite images is a copy of John Q Adams seated taken c 1843 a few years before he died on the floor of the House of Representatives, the first photograph ever of a man who was a US President. It sits on one of my fireplace mantle shelves.
They've got oodles of anti-oxidants, too. Yum.
I have two freekin QUARTS of blueberries in my fridge right now. They were buy 1 get 1 free at the market today. Think I may have to make muffins...
Do you guys see gravatars or just the word Gravatar?
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Gravatars!
Do you guys see gravatars or just the word Gravatar?
A mixture of both.
Do you guys see gravatars or just the word Gravatar?
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agave
they're coming and going...
agave,
I see gravatars.
But no dead people.
well the wine is gone and i've got a robert reed book to finish. g'night, beloved 'bats. ignore the trolls, and dogpile/google 'seanbaby.com' for some excellent comix action.
"Lawyers who have sat in on the prosecutors' interviews said Fitzgerald cast a wide net, adopting a broad view of the case. Some witnesses were asked only about the initial disclosure, others about possible misstatements during the investigative phase. Some were brought in several times. Rove, for example, was grilled by FBI agents twice in formal meetings and asked to respond to questions in informal settings, and appeared three times before the grand jury -- all between October 2003 and October 2004, said a person familiar with his testimony."
Reporters obtained releases from sources such as Libby to discuss confidential conversations, while others refused.
These are the "boilerplate" waivers that everyone was supposed to sign? Did some really refuse? That WOULD be interesting...
I'm watching the original Invasion of the Body Snatchers on Turner Classic Movies and it's reinforcing the feeling I have that there are only a few of us sane people left and the GOP are the pod people who have taken over this country and are twisting it into something different and horrible
With regards to people being replaced by cold blooded, inhuman pod duplicates, the place where it seems to be happening for real is in the news media. Twenty years ago, Jeff Greenfield, Paula Zahn, and even Brit Hume actually had some semblance of journalistic integrity. Now they and numerous other media types are whores for the GOP, serving their masters by making sure Republican talking points get rammed down the public's throat unfiltered.
The WaPo article is long, but I like the fact that it points out the WH has been bullshiting us since this whole thing started.
fat bastards.
thanks
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I'm on acid and I'm not quite sure what i see.
I'm on acid and I'm not quite sure what i see.
That would be the walls breathing
http://www.cnsnews.com//
ViewPoli...L20050715a.html
We don't want to kill you, we just want you return from the dark side you inhabit.
Cartoon of Dana Bash of CNN with link to site that has the hilarious video of her calling the CNN story defending Rove "bullshit".
I have two freekin QUARTS of blueberries in my fridge right now. They were buy 1 get 1 free at the market today. Think I may have to make muffins...
I don't have any blueberries, but I do have a couple of gallons of huckleberries. Some biologist say this is a No Rocky Mountains relative of the blueberry, and some say it's a different species entirely. I don't know about that controversy, but I do know they tast the same as blueberries, but stronger tasting, and much more sour. Planning on baking a pie from them later tonight. You have to add lots more sugar, so that the pie is not too tart.
Jeff Greenfield, Paula Zahn, and even Brit Hume
Salt water was effective against the Trifids, IIRC. Keep margaritas handy, I guess.
From The Observer-
White House in panic over spy scandal
When Bush faced reporters at the White House last Wednesday, he dodged questions on Rove. Seated as ever, just behind his President, Rove himself was tight-lipped and pale.
Too bad this isn't Merkin media.
I'm on acid and I'm not quite sure what i see.
Second Shooter
They would be moving yet not going anywhere.
Like rippling water.
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It's all illusion, man.
Still got my Gravatar.
By the way, at least we are not all trading names in random ways like we did the other night! That was amazing.
I'm on acid and I'm not quite sure what i see.
The answer is:
Three inches to the left.
Trust me.
This whole week feels like an acid flashback from the early seventies.
WHHHOOOO HOOO!!!!
Niiiiixon.....!
Shbinga,
As a mother,
my heart goes out to you.
'Bad things just happen in second terms,' said Larry Haas, a former Clinton aide. 'The Bush administration looks to the American people that it has lied.'
From agave's link. Hahahaha. Looks like it has lied? Hahahahaha. We'd be better off looking for the occasion when they told the truth. That would take HARD work.
New linen, but not fresh...the Patterson trollbot is shitting all over the place.
patterson is screwing the upper thread
might as well stay here
$@
My gravie is just Gravatar, the word!
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This whole week feels like an acid flashback from the early seventies.
This whole admin is like Nixon on Meth.
Does anyone hate the new Daily Show set as much as I do?
I hate that they got rid of the couch for the interviewee. Other than that, I don't really care one way or the other.
On a positive note though, it appears (to me, at least) that Stewart has been more political in his new digs.
They seem to go through phases. There've been a couple of times this year TDS seemed to be getting really centrist, but they bounced back both times. Don't know if it was just random variation or if people complained when they went off-track, but either way they seem to get back on track after awhile.
I'm on acid and I'm not quite sure what i see.
Second Shooter
I'm on wine and I know what you mean!
(2nd try)
This whole admin is like Nixon on Meth.
bigvic
And 'the people' on 'ludes.
714 time!
AS you please.
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Everyone should come back down here and leave him talking out his ass up there by himself.
I just left with the message to stop crapping out threads by playing with trolls. What a waste. The folks that think it's fun or feel they are scoring *points* are deluded.
And 'the people' on 'ludes.
714 time!
Word.
What a waste. The folks that think it's fun or feel they are scoring *points* are deluded.
Same reason folks still play Pong™, I guess... doesn't require much mental exertion, even if it doesn't amount to much in the end.
714 time!
Word.
bigvic"
in college i was known as mr. ludicrous.
Is there a conversation going on on this thread?
Upstairs is nothing but troll poop.
I hope so, flory. time for atrios to get out the repellent again.
"But in late September, a senior White House official was quoted as telling The Post at least six reporters had been told of Plame before Novak's column, "purely and simply out of revenge."
Haven't seen it described quite this way before. Was Powell a "White House official"? Was Tenet?"
Dunno. I can't remember what the code words are for 'senior wh official', wh official, administration sources, etc...
thank you everyone.
and now, to sleep - perchance to dream.
see you later.
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