I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

Judge not.


Not first. Fuck Bush.


Right. Fuck Rove, too.
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GravatarBlogs with a primarily national focus and audience can't really expect to attract local advertisers, but a decently trafficked site with a local focus could

THAT'S gonna set the trolls off.

They seem to have convinced themselves that Atrios is some kind of lefty Scrooge McDuck, swimming through his money bin full of ill-gotten spondulix and cackling at us mindless syncophants who push his party line.


GravatarIt's always puzzled me that alt-weeklies have largely missed the blogging boat. They seemed to have all of the infrastructure in place to do the kind of local culture/arts/music/hipsters/politics/gossip/ happenings blogging which is essentially what they do anyway, only in print form.

Our local weekly, Seven Days, has had 2 bloggers for quite some time now. It is indeed a natural fit.


GravatarCould someone please teach Atrios how to write?!


GravatarCould someone please teach Atrios how to write?!


GravatarOT: I nominate this Ohioan for the next installment of 'Bobo's World'...
The Smoking Gun


Gravatarswimming through his money bin full of ill-gotten spondulix and cackling at us mindless syncophants who push his party line.
Pere Ubu


Speaking of which - is Soros late with the checks this month?


Gravatarflory

I got mine.


GravatarSpeaking of which - is Soros late with the checks this month?

I know I haven't got mine yet, and I'm pissed about it.


GravatarI wish soros would pay me.


GravatarW. C. Fields 1880 - 1946:

"I once spent a year in Philadelphia, I think it was on a Sunday. "


GravatarJuggle not lest others juggle you.

Ditto for jiggling.


GravatarI assume you can tell you live in a Red State when your local alt-weekly has a token conservative, as ours does.

Oh, and there's a letter in this past week's from someone who's convinced that "there's more religious tolerance at Gitmo than at any high school".

We grow 'em big and stupid down here.


GravatarHmmm...I haven't checked for local alt/weekly bloggers, but I noticed for the first time that Pasadena Weekly is on-line, and it looks to be the complete edition.

Thanks, Atrios.


GravatarI wish Soros would marry me.


GravatarQL got hers. Pere Ubu and I have been stiffed.

And Atrios isn't even on the payroll yet?

WTF???


GravatarHigh Schools are hell.

Jr. High is the inner circle of hell.

Grade school is heaven only if you aren't me. I hated it, too.


GravatarAlimony is tons better than a weeky pay check. Is Soros married?


GravatarI wish Soros would marry me.

I wish he'd adopt me.


Gravatarhey, soros is pass'n out money?

i wondered how people from new york would feel about bag searches.

"i do not consent to being searched"

i'd buy that.


GravatarThat jewy Jew, Soros, has been spending our paychecks speculating on the Chinese yuan. That's it: I'm becoming a Republican now.


GravatarIf America gets hit again by the terrorists we need to Nuke the entire middle east and do a 30 year occupation with a Marshall Plan. It's time for the bullshit to come to an end.


GravatarIt's time for the bullshit to come to an end.

I agree.

So STFU and go away.


Gravatarwe need to Nuke the entire middle east and do a 30 year occupation with a Marshall Plan

gonna be kinda hard to do a "Marshall Plan" for a couple hundred million dead people.


GravatarHave you heard the one about the preznit trying to jumpstart his Social Security scam by enlisting his mommy to pad the schtick with him?
My Mother The Card


GravatarIf America gets hit again by the terrorists we need to Nuke the entire middle east and do a 30 year occupation with a Marshall Plan. It's time for the bullshit to come to an end.

Shit, why wait? Let's nuke 'em before they hit us. Preventive war roolz!


Gravatari see the stupids have arrived.


Gravatarken, if we nuke the middle east, you can kiss all that oil goodbye too.


Gravatar"i do not consent to being searched"

Check out this article at Common Dreams.


GravatarThe jig is up with these attacks on innocent civilians. It's time to put Nukes in Iraq and bind ourselves to launch if the attacks continue. For every attack, they will lose a large chunk of their civilization. Starting with the Saudi oil fields.


GravatarShit, why wait? Let's nuke 'em before they hit us. Preventive war roolz!
NTodd


Wait!!

They expect us to nuke the mideast. Let's surprise 'em and nuke South America. They'd never expect that.

It'd be a huge victory.


GravatarThe [Seattle] Stranger has a blog. It's OK.


GravatarFor every attack, they will lose a large chunk of their civilization. Starting with the Saudi oil fields.
ken


Could this one possibly be parody?


Really bad parody?


GravatarWTF???
flory, Contributing Editor


I guess he likes my quilts.

BTW - Sorry I left earlier to work on newest creation. I just read the posts about faith vs. good works. One of Dobson's henchmen actually said that today's christianists were tired of all the do gooder stuff, and they wanted more action. So that's what they give em. Interesting stuff.


GravatarLondonist has some good but troubling reportage on the Stockwell shooting, and more to come by Monday, they promise. Keep your eyes peeled on that one.


Gravatarken - Your ideas are intriguing and I wish to subscribe to newsletter.


GravatarStarting with the Saudi oil fields.

also gonna be kinda difficult to fill your SUV's gas tank if the oil fields are all radioactive and stuff, buhbie.

Of course, Bush doesn't think anything through before he does it either, so I suppose there's a precedent.


GravatarReally bad parody?

Really REALLY bad parody.


GravatarIf I get cut off in traffic again, I'm going to follow the offending driver home and set his/her house on fire. Then, whatever creatures come running out will be flayed and then crucified. Kittens and puppies will endure the added insult of being verbally harrassed. Then I'll poop my pants. It's time for the bullshit to come to an end.


GravatarI got hungry reading the restaurant review. Makes me want to go to Philly. Mojitos. Yummmmmmm.

I really liked the site!


Gravatar Phillyist.

Unfortunate name.


GravatarYou people are so ignorant.


GravatarCheck out this article at Common Dreams.

But instead of actually examining 9/11 to stop it from occurring again, the US throws a bunch of bad things against the wall - searches, detentions, wars - and just sees what sticks.

Ok, cool, you can do that too.


yup, work'n out so well. all war, all the time. 'course we could just nuke the middle east and start a 30 year occupation. which sadly, as stupid as ken is, i think may be the plan.


GravatarMy Mother The Card

Hilarious!!!

I read about the traveling medicine show this morning. Desperate are we?


GravatarThey expect us to nuke the mideast. Let's surprise 'em and nuke South America. They'd never expect that.

It'd be a huge victory.


We should just nuke ourselves. That'd totally fuck up their plans. Operation Masada will be a catastophic success!


GravatarFrom the Common Dreams article I linked to:

Or maybe that poster on the NJ trains telling people not to leave a mess of powdered donuts on their seat because it might get mistaken for a terrorist attack.

THAT'S some fugged-up pshitt.

It's be funny if it wasn't so sad.


Gravatar You people are so ignorant.

Please, teach me. I'm anxious to learn.


GravatarIt's interesting that some of the libul Blue State enclaves have more restrictive liquor laws than Bobo's Red State Paradise.


GravatarYou people are so ignorant.

I know you are but what are we!?

nyaaaah.


GravatarYou people are so ignorant.
albertchampion | 07.22.05 - 12:06 am | #

You people are so ignorant.
ken



Hmmmmmmmm...?


GravatarYou people are so ignorant.

Are not.


At least we're human. You?


GravatarTell me about it, Lime. The fact that there are so many Europeans in NY hasn't in the slightest prevented the government from taking an un-European attitude to the Demon Drink.


Gravataralbertchampion is such a tired fucking jackass


GravatarYou people are so ignorant.

Please, teach me. I'm anxious to learn.


I agree with Ntodd.

Enlighten us, oh enlightened one. Pull us from the void of Unknowing and reveal unto our sensoria the true light of Reality. Oh pray do so!


GravatarThe Stranger (Seattle) does have a blog.


GravatarAtrios linked to TPM yesterday which outlines Dick's plans for the ME. Scared the shit out of me.


GravatarDick's plans for ME

I blame NTodd


GravatarWTF???
flory, Contributing Editor

I guess he likes my quilts.


Oh sure, bribe him with a wedding ring and a coupla log cabins and the check is in the mail.....


GravatarIt's obvious you're ignorant. Anyone that wouldn't vigorously defend their life, country, and property in the face of a threat is inhuman.


GravatarThe Stranger interviewed JC Christian, patriot.


Gravatar Tell me about it, Lime. The fact that there are so many Europeans in NY hasn't in the slightest prevented the government from taking an un-European attitude to the Demon Drink.
TheaLogie | Email | 07.23.05 - 2:14 pm | #


No smokin' in bars, either. What an unChristian idea.


GravatarWhat's weird with the searching thing is that they were up and running literally within hours of the announcement. And it was pretty well organized. I thought for sure I would be pulled over, being a middle aged white woman, just so they could claim not to be profiling. I wasn't. I don't know what I am going to do if pulled. Right now I am just hoping they leave me alone.


Gravatarin the face of a threat

What threat?

Defend against whom?

Point them out to us. How 'bout the guy in London? He was a terrorist until it was discovered he wasn't one. After they shot him five times.

Too bad for him, I quess.


GravatarWe should just nuke ourselves. That'd totally fuck up their plans. Operation Masada will be a catastophic success!
NTodd


I like it. We could start with Texas. Then Florida.


Gravataror guess.


GravatarAnyone that wouldn't vigorously defend their life, country, and property in the face of a threat is inhuman.

Show us a real threat and we'll defend ourselves.

Shadowy "Islamofascist" boogedymen aren't a real threat. And BTW, you might be looking at the chump in the White House and asking what he's doing to defend our etc.etc.


GravatarI blame NTodd

You spelled 'Eli' wrong.

It's obvious you're ignorant. Anyone that wouldn't vigorously defend their life, country, and property in the face of a threat is inhuman.

You're absolutely right. How could we be so stupid? IDIOTS!


GravatarW. C. Fields

Who supposedly wanted his tombstone to read: "On the whole, I'd rather be in Philadelphia."


GravatarWhat's weird with the searching thing is that they were up and running literally within hours of the announcement. And it was pretty well organized.

Kinda like the Patriot Act.

Makes you wonder what else they've got ready-to-go "just in case".


GravatarOk, kidz - I gotta go deal with life.


Later.


(Couldya clean out the troll shit before i get back? Thanks)


GravatarMakes you wonder what else they've got ready-to-go "just in case".

Frankly, they never seem to do a bang-up job of anything they attempt, so I'm not gonna worry too much.

Unless they start shooting people who aren't terrorists.


GravatarWow, there's a facinating new post up about how nuts are the wingnuts! It's terrific!

(No, this is not a "blogwhore." It is a blog "come-on for promiscuous sex owing to low self-esteem.")


Gravataralbertchampion was thrown out of the EvilWalterNeff School for Henchmen for leaving unlaundered stains on his Lycra jumpsuit. In addition, he received poor marks in Lackey 101, Advanced Minion, and Henchmen in Literature. I should also note that he sounded way too girly when saying, "Yes, Your Excellency".


GravatarIt's obvious you're ignorant. Anyone that wouldn't vigorously defend their life, country, and property in the face of a threat is inhuman.

that's why we have such high hopes that the Special Prosecutor, Fitzgerald, will do his job vigorously, and by winning convictions against the treasonous bastards, defend our lives, our country, and our property.


GravatarMakes you wonder what else they've got ready-to-go "just in case".
Pere Ubu


Ayup.


GravatarIt's obvious you're ignorant. Anyone that wouldn't vigorously defend their life, country, and property in the face of a threat is inhuman.

Is that why you troll comments boards?


GravatarIn addition, he received poor marks in Lackey 101, Advanced Minion, and Henchmen in Literature. I should also note that he sounded way too girly when saying, "Yes, Your Excellency".

All the more reason that, when I become a Evil Mastermind, I'm sticking to atomic robots.

Less hassle.


GravatarAnyone that wouldn't vigorously defend their life, country, and property...

I'm defending my (and others') life, country and property by vigorously:

1) Supporting the swift and thorough punishment of traitors who compromise WMD anti-proliferation intelligence assets (particularly for petty partisan gains).

2) Protesting the fomenting of unnecessary wars that waste valuable human and financial resources, and in turn increase the likelihood of terrorism rather than reduce it.

The odds of being blown up by a terrorist's bomb on the subway is smaller than dying in a car accident. WMD proliferation, on the other hand, is a threat, one which the policies of the last five years have done nothing to reduce.


GravatarOT: The poor fellow shot dead in the Stockwell Underground station yesterday was:

1)Innocent as the driven snow
2)Racially profiled
3)Executed in public by five bullets to the brain. (This is what the Israelis call the Kronos Operation--said to prevent detonation of suicide vest).

Britain is lawless.


GravatarWho cares for your weeklies praising the Bresson and Ozu revivals? Or the Schoenberg recitals by Glenn Gould wannabes? You will burn in hell regardless of your good taste from the freebies.


Gravatar"Some on the Left have started a 'maybe he's gay' whisper campaign against John Roberts."

Just because he dresses in little girls' clothes doesn't make him gay.


GravatarOT: The poor fellow shot dead...

It's the grand new policy of pre-emption. How do we know he wouldn't be a terrorist someday?

{/chicken(shit)-hawk}


GravatarI don't think it's a parody. I think it's some jackass deliberately trying to whip up a furor by saying stupid, provocative things.

Merkin Patriot is the only good parody troll.


GravatarI think it's some jackass deliberately trying to whip up a furor by saying stupid, provocative things.

You'll notice how we're going off the deep end, "whipping up a furor" in our reponses.

If it tried that kind of thing over on "Free"Republic or LGF it'd have been banned after the first post.


Gravatar"Some on the Left have started a 'maybe he's gay' whisper campaign against John Roberts."

I'm "on the Left" and the first I heard of a "Roberts is gay" whisper campaign was from some right-wing shitass.


GravatarI think it's some jackass deliberately trying to whip up a furor by saying stupid, provocative things.

Like our good friend *i love atrios*.


GravatarOh and by "right-wing shitass" I mean Assrocket.


GravatarOh and by "right-wing shitass" I mean Assrocket.

WTF kind of supposedly-sentient creature names itself "Assrocket" anyway?


GravatarHey Elaine:

Russell Baker had a column a while back. I paraphrase:

Tough Tony felt pretty confident, even after the guilty verdict was returned. So what? A year or two in the joint? Like water off a duck's back, and he'd get out as bad, and as well connected, as ever. But something in the judge's gimlet eye made him think twice. "Tony", he started, in a flat monotone. Tony suddenly thought the judge meant business...

"Tony", the judge said, his voice taking on, of a sudden, a menacing resonance, "your crimes are of such magnitude that I have no alternative but to sentence you to...FOUR MORE YEARS OF HIGH SCHOOL!"

"No!", screamed Tony, as they led him to his doom...


GravatarAh, white powder in the subways!

From here in Boston, February 2004!

Ed "Brutus Beefcake" Leslie causes anthrax scare
Submitted by Matthew Tremley on Friday, February 13, 2004 at 2:10 PM EST


• Body slam: T scare lands ex-grappler in rehab

He was the pec-perfect model for a toy action figure and a cartoon character puzzle, but it's former pro wrestling giant Brutus "The Barber" Beefcake who's gone to pieces.

Beefcake - these days Edward Leslie, 46, of Winchester - voluntarily checked into a treatment program Monday, according to a source, after cocaine he admitted was his created an anthrax scare at the MBTA's Downtown Crossing subway station.

Sources said the man who acquired his stage name for hacking off the hair of his enemies in the ring had been working there part time as a fare collector - a job that pays $25,000 a year.

"He was a big star for the World Wrestling (Federation)," Buck Woodward, a columnist for the online magazine Pro Wrestling Insider, said yesterday of Leslie.

"During the '80s wrestling boom he became popular because he was very good friends with Hulk Hogan."

But behind the colossal bronzed chest and TV set of his own wrestling talk show, "The Barber Shop," Leslie's life was headed for the ropes. In 1990, his face was reconstructed with plates and bolts after a freak parasailing accident. Last April, the IRS slammed him with a lien for $57,425, according to records.

The MBTA confirmed yesterday they have an employee named Edward Leslie, but would not say if he was the one they suspended without pay after cocaine turned up Sunday afternoon on the counter of a Downtown Crossing fare booth, prompting an emergency hazmat response.

"Right now it's only an internal disciplinary matter," said MBTA spokesman Joe Pesaturo. "He has been cooperative with police."

Found at the Lords of Pain website.

Another documented white powder scare here in Boston, heard on my scanner, was at an office building, In the break room, by the coffee machine.

Yeah, non-dairy creamer.


GravatarI bid you all adieu; I must steal away now and lovingly pet my pussy.

I mean, stroke my pet -

er, rub my . . .

Hey, being evil is hard work.

.


GravatarI'm sure you folks heard the news that the guy shot 5 times in London has been cleared of any connection to terrorism.

Did you also see what one of the Fucks news announcers said about the shooting?

Five in the Noggin By John Gibson


GravatarRoberts deserves the benefit of the doubt. All cross-dressers aren't gay.


GravatarAP Headlines

UK Police: Man Killed Unrelated to Probe.

Shit.


GravatarWhy not say Roberts is gay? Let him have to deny it; let him have to denounce all the smear politics in DC, of which he's been a happy part. Let him explain why he and his wife couldn't have kids on their own, resorting to adoption of high-value blonds. Are you queer? Or your wife?

Make the bastard suffer as much as possible for being a Rethug. Put him through the wringer with every nasty innuendo you can think of. That's how the Rethugs operate--let them know it's been noticed.


Gravatar (This is what the Israelis call the Kronos Operation--said to prevent detonation of suicide vest).

So it's Israeli (and now British) cowboy policy to go for the headshot? Against the CW (aim for the center of mass) of LEA worldwide?
And at a moving target? In a crowd?
Oy.


GravatarRoberts deserves the benefit of the doubt.

Even with all those shipments of amyl nitrate and the Tom of Finland books?


GravatarWTF kind of supposedly-sentient creature names itself "Assrocket" anyway?
Pere Ubu


Same kind that, as a grown man, allows himself to be called Scooter and/or Turdblossom? Just guessin'....


GravatarFundie Draco--the way Dems have been smeared by the Rightie Whities in recent history, I'm willing to fight dirty on this one. Whisper campaigns might be just what the Dr. Dean ordered.


GravatarSame kind that, as a grown man, allows himself to be called Scooter and/or Turdblossom? Just guessin'....

What is it with Repug guys and names, anyway? Not only the nicknames like "Scooter" but "real" names like Newt and Asa?


GravatarPere Ubu--parental cruelty.


GravatarPssst...


Roberts,




was a gay acting student


GravatarWhat is it with Repug guys and names, anyway? Not only the nicknames like "Scooter" but "real" names like Newt and Asa?

You might be onto something here...Maybe that's what turns them into self-righteous, bullying assholes; all that time getting teased on the playground for being "the kid with the funny name."


Gravatara gay acting student

"Are you, sir, a practicing homosexual?"

"No, I think I'm ready to go professional with it."


Gravatar Why not say Roberts is gay? Let him have to deny it; let him have to denounce all the smear politics in DC, of which he's been a happy part. Let him explain why he and his wife couldn't have kids on their own, resorting to adoption of high-value blonds. Are you queer? Or your wife?

Roberts' wife isn't queer, but she does have a python-skin riding crop.


GravatarI had a whole list of weirdass Repug first names at one point - forgot it, though. Got to post those kinda things when I first think of 'em.


GravatarSince Rove has made the whisper campaign a standard part of American political operations, Democrats will either have to resort to using them or get murdered in election after election until they stand as much chance as the Libertarian Party of getting anyone elected to anything above dog catcher. All this "We shouldn't stoop to their level" crap has got to end now. It's got to be "the Chicago way" from here on in.

(Well, the Rethug-rigged voting machines are also a problem.)


GravatarI am happy to see that the bastard that has 3/4s of my name seems to have gone off in search of new material.

HoooooooBoy.
.


GravatarEr, the "headshot" is drawn from Operation Kratos, not Kronos. Sorry.


GravatarEvilWalterNeff looks like Dennis Miller.


GravatarAs the only Fundie Xian here at otherwise godless Eschaton, I demand in YHWH's name that you pray for Cheney and W to rat out each other to Fitzgerald. Now that's a constitutional crisis to make Jesus dance from finger to finger on YHWH's right hand, no?


GravatarHi! Just wanted to pop on over to this forum and recommend you GET THE FUCKING CAT PICTURES OFF THE FUCKING BLOG!

Nobody cares about your fucking cat! Your cat is an Al Qaeda terrorist! Your cat is a Republican!

GET RID OF THE FUCKING CATS! ALL OF THEM!


GravatarUh-oh. Guy shot on London subway apparently had nothing to do with the bombings: NY Times.


GravatarOperation Kratos, not Kronos

Kronos was that giant electricity-sucking robot from space. Totally unrelated.

BTW I see "Deutschbag" has oozed back into the slime from whence it sprang. Good riddance.


GravatarLamar
Saxby
Lindsey
Judd
Orrin


GravatarAll Repubs have weird nick names. It is part of the gang initiation ceremonies. Along with the sex stuff they like to do to each other's rears.


GravatarGuy shot on London subway apparently had nothing to do with the bombings

A public execution. That's why we took out Saddam, allegedly.


GravatarGET RID OF THE FUCKING CATS! ALL OF THEM!

Anyone who doesn't like cats isn't American.

Why do you hate America, sir?


GravatarLong time poster "realwest" from LGF, famous for lying that his father died a hero of 9/11 (busted, name not on any lists) posts the following on Little Green Footballs, today:

#150 realwest 7/23/2005 10:28:09 AM
#123 FabioC. - thanks for the information; I guess I was right about the Brits; they still don't feel any anger or at least aren't willing to demonstrate any feeling of anger over those subway or "tube" bombings. They deserve whatever happens to them.

People who disagree with this vile statement can write to "realwest" at

realwest@earthlink.net

P.S. Only one lizard found the above objectionable.


GravatarGood news.

Spain court backs Argentine trial
Members of the Argentine human rights group Mothers Plaza de Mayo.

Spain's Supreme Court has ruled that the government must ask Argentina to extradite 39 former military officers for alleged human rights violations.
more...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europ...ope/ 4708891.stm


Remind Republicans that there isn't any statute of limitations for Crimes against humanity.


GravatarI call on the immediate resignation of Chairman Dean based on the recent comments he has been making.


VOTE GREEN and not Dean


Gravatar What is it with Repug guys and names, anyway? Not only the nicknames like "Scooter" but "real" names like Newt and Asa?


How 'bout STROM?

What the fuck?


GravatarI don't know what's wrong with the troll, even the "big dog" likes cats.
http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne...26996746& size=o


Gravatar at least aren't willing to demonstrate any feeling of anger over those subway or "tube" bombings. They deserve whatever happens to them.

Whah those ungrateful Brits! We shoulda never rescued them from Hitler! How dare they not write songs about putting a boot up someone's ass as a result of terrorism! They all want "law enforcement" and "arrests" and all that wimpy Eurotrash crap! Why they're probably all homos anyway! They still allow Commies in their country after all! *BELCH*


GravatarVOTE GREEN and not Dean

I respect the Rev Al Green, but he's not running for anything. AFAIK. And Dr. Dean is doing a great job fundraising and building a national party structure, so The Rev. is, however, admittedly a more soulful singer.


GravatarThe Rev. is, however, admittedly a more soulful singer.
Thersites


I agree. Howard Dean's version of "How Can You Mend a Broken Heart?" isn't nearly as good.


GravatarKronos was that giant electricity-sucking robot from space. Totally unrelated.

One of the coolest Space-Monsters ever, too. Giant silvery piston-legs going sheeoomp! sheeoomp!, crushing everything beneath it. (though I might have the sound wrong. Haven't heard it since the '60s sometime).
I wonder, though, did they finally do it in with a head-shot?


GravatarVOTE GREEN and not Dean

I'm partial to purple.

I fancy fuschia.

I love lilac.


Gravatar What is it with Repug guys and names, anyway? Not only the nicknames like "Scooter" but "real" names like Newt and Asa?

The name "Zell" was of course an early tipoff...


GravatarGot an e-mail from Bill MacDonal, who presumably is 'wd':

"Fuck you and the other Deaniacs."

My reply:

You're a lovely fucking human being. Way to convince me to vote for you piece of shit party--here's one less Independent to count on. And rest assured the Atriots will be hearing about this!

Peace,
ntodd


GravatarWhah those ungrateful Brits!

Those pussy cops didn't start carrying guns, fer crissakes, til when? Like last year?


Gravatar I call on the immediate resignation of Chairman Dean based on the recent comments he has been making.

Why should the Democratic Party listen to an asshole Green?


GravatarThe brownshirts are esp. pathetic today.

Guess Unka Karl has other things on his mind...


GravatarThe jig is up with these attacks on innocent civilians.
Just what in the hell do you think "Shock and Awe" was?
Paybacks are a bitch.


GravatarAnd rest assured the Atriots will be hearing about this!

P.S. Karl, is that you?


Gravatar to demonstrate any feeling of anger over those subway or "tube" bombings. They deserve whatever happens to them.

It's nice to know that we not only reserve the right to control the military and economic actions of other countries, but are now the world's emotional compass, too.

Emotional imperialism...what a great concept!


GravatarEr, Bill MacDonald. Oh...who the fuck cares what that asshole's name is...


GravatarEmotional imperialism...what a great concept!

"Roadhouse" is one of their favorite movies.

"It's my way . . . or the highway."


GravatarWTF at 3:03--The neocon worldview is so binary, (With us or against us) that it can't tolerate any real world complexity.

I don't know how the London stuff will play out, but I know what happened in Spain. After the train bombings, the Spanish gov't lied to the citizenry, saying they didn't know who bombed, and hinting at the ETA, a Basque group who denied it.

Then a police tipoff came, saying the gov't knew all along it was Arabs, but chose to blame the Basques for political gain. Bad idea, and the voters threw the ruling party out.

And i'm no longer Fundie Draco--I've lost faith


GravatarI'm actually still a registered Green...but I gotta admit that they basically suck on anything except the local level.


GravatarThis is Billy's e-mail addy, if anybody would like to send him any love letters: wmacdona@maine.rr.com.


Gravatardid they finally do it in with a head-shot?

I think they dropped cadmium or some neutron-absorber on it to finish it off. Bullets never stop alien menaces from space, y'know.

The Health Sciences Center at SUNY Stonybrook has more than a passing resemblance to Kronos the robot.


GravatarWhy should the Democratic Party listen to an asshole Green?

Hey!

It's not that easy being green,
Having to spend each day the color of the leaves...
When I think it could be nicer being red, or yellow or gold
Or something much more colorful like that --

It's not easy being green...


Gravatar"It's my way . . . or the highway."
watertiger


I think that was actually Buddy Rich's line...he used to scream it at his band all the time, especially if they dared to grow moustaches.


GravatarNTodd, Weekend Sodomite

I didn't know it was possible to sodomize weekends.


GravatarFrankly, I prefer to think of myself as a "Deanist."


GravatarNTodd, Weekend Sodomite

I actually got a royalty check this AM for $69. I consider it an auspicious sign for weekend sodomy.


GravatarI would never try to convince you of anything as it would be difficult to understand for you.
I am usually a civil person but you not me certainily started with the obscenities.
Go back to your normal weekend activities.


Got an e-mail from Bill MacDonal, who presumably is 'wd':

"Fuck you and the other Deaniacs."

My reply:

You're a lovely fucking human being. Way to convince me to vote for you piece of shit party--here's one less Independent to count on. And rest assured the Atriots will be hearing about this!

Peace,
ntodd
NTodd, Weekend Sodomite


GravatarPhila,

Probably the originator. But to hear Patrick Swayze utter it is an altogether different experience.


GravatarIt's nice to know that we not only reserve the right to control the military and economic actions of other countries, but are now the world's emotional compass, too.

Emotional imperialism...what a great concept!
Phila


[warning:blogwhore]

Actually, apparently we already are.


Gravatar"Deanist."

but how does the similarity with that and "Adonis" reconcile?


GravatarThe Dems would be much better off--and how could they be worse off--imitating the Greens rather than imitating the goopers.

Who was appalled last year when Kerry, clarifying his Iraq policy, said he wanted more troops there, and would have done a better job flattening Fallujah in spring '04?

This was our alternative to warlike W?


Gravatar I would never try to convince you of anything as it would be difficult to understand for you.

Try me. Thus far all you've done is come in, shit on Dean for saying reasonable things, and admonishing us incessantly to Vote Green NOT Dean.

You talk about Dean resigning, but you should start closer to home. You are absolutely the worst fucking spokesperson the Green's could have this side of Nader. Next time, try harder.

I am usually a civil person but you not me certainily started with the obscenities.

God, I'd hate to see you act uncivil. Anyway, thanks for your lame private e-mail. It made me feel superior to you, and it was fun to share with the folks here.

Go back to your normal weekend activities.

Okay, and you go back to eating shit and dying, fuckwit.


GravatarI would never try to convince you of anything as it would be difficult to understand for you.

If I may interject:

I find that NTodd's brain works quite well when it comes to political debate.

Try another tack.


GravatarI managed to find a transcription of one of Buddy Rich's rants:

You guys are gonna be back in New York on the bread line so fast you won't even know that you were on this fuckin' band. How dare you play a fuckin' set like that. Since when did the fuckin' trumpet players become the leader of this fuckin' band and decide how long they're gonna hold a chord? What the fuck do you think you're doin'? You think you're playin' with some kid up there? I expect one-hundred-and-ten percent fucking perfection every fuckin' tune, you got that? If you can't do it, get off my fuckin' band to-NIGHT! You had a day off yesterday and you come back like this and you suck! What the fuck kind of music do you think you're playing here anyhow? And who do you think you're playing for? You think I'll tolerate that shit? You're worse than any fuckin' high school band I ever heard. You come in wrong because you leave one fuckin' beat out, you can't find one!? I don't know what kind of drummers you think you're playin' with, but you'll play with me or you'll get out! And I mean NOW! I don't need this shit. I have a home in Palm Springs and I can go sit on my ass the rest of my life and not worry about a fuckin' thing...and don't have to meet your fuckin' payroll, and pay you for playin' like a fuckin' high school dropout! How dare you do that! ASSHOLES!! You can't play a simple fuckin' tune; you can't hold a chord; you can't play time when you play solos. What kind of solos am I hearing tonight? (as he turns to the Trombonist) You want to rehearse and practice, get a fuckin' band in Sydney and play the kind of shit you want. Over here you play TIME!!


GravatarBuddy Rich: The Julie McCoy of band leaders.


GravatarI've never liked Buddy Rich's music anyway, so this revelation isn't very shocking.

Contrast him with Duke Ellington, who was a great musican, and nice guy.


GravatarContrast him with Duke Ellington, who was a great musican, and nice guy.

Wasn't that why they called him 'Duke'?


GravatarMy absolute favorite Rich tantrum:

Two fuckin' weeks to make up your mind whether you want a beard or you want a job. I'll not have this trouble with this band. This is not the goddamn House of David fuckin' baseball team. This is the Buddy Rich Band; young people...with faces! No more fuckin' beards. That's out! If you decide to do it, you're through. Right now! This is the last time I make this announcement. No more fucking beards. I don't want to see it. If you guys don't want to shave it off, I'll treat you just like they treat you in the fuckin' Marine Corps. This is the way I want my band to look. If you don't like it, get out! You've got two weeks to make up your mind. This is no idle request. I'm telling you how my band is gonna look. You're not telling me how you're gonna look, I'm telling you. You've got two weeks to make up your fucking mind, if you have any mind. (pause) There's too much freedom in this band. It's taken away. You're not going to do what you want to do, but what I want to do, as long as you're takin' my fuckin' money.


GravatarSorry for the typos. Preview is my friend. Bill is my enemy.


GravatarSorry for the typos. Preview is my friend. Bill is my enemy.


GravatarI believe maybe what wd/dw/whatever is trying to get across is that Dean has "sold out" his supporters by giving a speech saying that the Dems have to make a certain amount of room for those who are opposed to abortion.

That's still not a good reason to vote Green.


GravatarSorry for the typos.

Inexcusable!


GravatarWell, I'll see you folks around. I'm heading out for "brunch," like the tax-hiking, government-expanding, latte-drinking, sushi-eating, left-wing freak I am.


Gravatarwatertiger - yeah, I'm ashamed. But the double post isn't my fault, for the record.


GravatarAnd i'm no longer Fundie Draco--I've lost faith
Draco


Say it aint so joe.


Gravataroff topic idle thought:
Bush has the integrity of Nixon and the competence of Dan Quayle.
another idle thought:
why does at least one gestapo guy in every nazi flick ever made resemble Karl Rove?


Gravatarwhy does at least one gestapo guy in every nazi flick ever made resemble Karl Rove?

childhood trama.

They grow up knowing even their mama thought they were disgusting.


Gravatarwhy does at least one gestapo guy in every nazi flick ever made resemble Karl Rove?

all expressions of the "Doughy Evil Guy" archetype.


GravatarThere is NO reason to vote
Green.


Ever.


GravatarLamar
Saxby
Lindsey
Judd
Orrin
ThinlyVeiled | 07.23.05 - 3:00 pm..............................The best of weird Republican names goes to------Zack Wamp.


Gravatar There is NO reason to vote
Green.


Ever.


What if you're really stoned?


GravatarHey Draco - Since you are no longer a believer, can I have your gravatar (as if I will every get one. Opened up a special email account at opera, signed up at gravatar, never heard back weeks ago, now can't even access new email at opera) since it is the coolest one around?


GravatarSorry for the typos. Preview is my friend. Bill is my enemy.

Am I on your official enemies list and where do I rank on it?

You know this works both ways. You started with the obscene language and not me. I have copies of you comments and clearly you are the one that started it. You certainly dont appear to want to win me over to your point of view either. Sorry I have never liked Dean for a long time dating back to when he was the Governor. I guess I should at least have that right.

To be honest, much worse was written here on Kerry, Nadir,Gephardt and other democrats than I ever said.

You know I probably agree with a lot of what people here say about Bush and the repugs, so If I am the enemy so be it.


Gravatartotally off topic here, but I think interesting.

from bbc,

Rover sold to Nanjing Automobile

Chinese carmaker Nanjing Automotive has secured ownership of MG Rover for an unknown sum, after a three-way bidding battle spread over three months.


Gravatarsteve, are you gonna join us for the mini convention when kent is in town?


GravatarThere is NO reason to vote
Green.


well, I did, but then again both of the states I've lived in in my voting life haven't exactly been battleground states. Either solid Blue (New York) or solid Red (South Carolina).

I realize though it's a luxury not everyone can afford.


GravatarChinese carmaker Nanjing Automotive has secured ownership of MG Rover for an unknown sum, after a three-way bidding battle spread over three months.
Doug


MG Rover's been going down the tube for decades. The model 75 vaguely perked up its fortunes, briefly, but the real moneymaker (Mini) is in BMW hands. This isn't big news.


Gravatarsteve, are you gonna join us for the mini convention when kent is in town?
QL in NY | 07.23.05 - 3:41 pm | #



I'm late to the party....


what have I missed?


BTW: I think the answer is
yes.....


GravatarAm I on your official enemies list and where do I rank on it?

Yes. You're in between Bush and Incog.

You know this works both ways.

No duh.

You started with the obscene language and not me. I have copies of you comments and clearly you are the one that started it.

Obsess much?

You certainly dont appear to want to win me over to your point of view either.

From your very first post here, it was clear it would be a waste of time. You condemn Dean for saying reasonable things like the Dems need to attract more people than just evil baby murderers to the party, tell us he's a disaster, get pissy when people challenge you, etc. The only recourse to me is to swear at you and see if I can at least get a rise out of you. You're easy.

Sorry I have never liked Dean for a long time dating back to when he was the Governor. I guess I should at least have that right.

I disagree with many things Dean did as Governor and as a Presidential candidate. I still oroudly voted for him every 2 years and in the Vermont primary. No politician is perfect. If they were perfect, they'd be saints, not running for higher office.

To be honest, much worse was written here on Kerry, Nadir,Gephardt and other democrats than I ever said.

Define 'worse'. Your comments equal the worst I ever saw on these threads about any candidate (save for the real trollish comments) because you immediately set out to be stand-offish and holier-than-thou. Your boorish sloganeering and obtuseness was evident from the very start.

so If I am the enemy so be it.

For me the enemy/friend distinction does not rely on the agree/disagree dichotomy. I am great friends with people who are diametrically opposed to me politically, and I despise people who are politically aligned with me.

You? I just don't like you and your poopy head. I don't give a shit what your politics are.


GravatarThis isn't big news.
TheaLogie

It may eventually be the beginning of a Chinese automobile maker on the world market. This is why it's interesting.

Otherwise I don't care much about brit autos. they've not been big players for decades.

The mini is these days, but where is the manufacturing for the mini being done?


GravatarYou know I probably agree with a lot of what people here say about Bush and the repugs, so If I am the enemy so be it.
dw


Isn't it weird. I have never been treated with anything but the utmost respect and kindness from the regulars here. Even when I have been less than diplomatic. Some stranger comes in, starts telling everyone to stop backing Dean, and to turn green, then sends an insulting email to my special Friend, then acts like he is the one put upon when someone talks back.

dw - you are more than welcome to your personal political beliefs. But last time I checked, I was still welcome to mine. Perhaps you would be more comfortable on a Green blog, instead of here.


GravatarWhat if you're really stoned?
NTodd, Weekend Sodomite | Email | Homepage | 07.23.05 - 3:40 pm | #


Well....okay.....


GravatarThe mini is these days, but where is the manufacturing for the mini being done?

Mini was bought by BMW.

Niiiiice German engineering.


GravatarWell I knew it is now a BMW marque, but where is it actualy made?


GravatarKent will be in town mid-August. WT is putting together a drinky, maybe dinner thingy. I was just getting my butt in gear to organize when low and behold, she was right on it. She's a Leo you know.


GravatarI would never try to convince you of anything as it would be difficult to understand for you.

Try me? No, don't try me!
The insufferably self-righteous Right has met it's match in the Greens. And I must say, they deserve eachother. Hey, WD? Why not hang out with the LGFers, and exchange witty repartee with them, hmmm?
I must say, though, at first glance--and second and third--the above quote could have come from virtually any of our Wingnut Trools, so maybe he's not as green as he wants us to think. Maybe sort of a reddish green. (Stalin's favorite color).


Gravataroff topic idle thought:
Bush has the integrity of Nixon and the competence of Dan Quayle.

pretzelattack

That nails it! Make a nice meme (if there is such a word beyond the blogosphere).

Here come da' judge!


GravatarYou? I just don't like you and your poopy head. I don't give a shit what your politics are.

The feeling is mutual. Your comments here ,are usually childish, inane,off-topic and at best totally useless.


GravatarWell I knew it is now a BMW marque, but where is it actualy made?

Um...(shuffling feet, looking over shoulder)


GravatarThe feeling is mutual. Your comments here ,are usually childish, inane,off-topic and at best totally useless.

I think you forgot to add "nyah nyah nyah."


Gravatarfound it, Oxford England. (trivial point, but I was curious, and had to scratch this itch)

Plant Oxford: MINI Manufacturing Tour
ttp://www.motoringfile.com/2005/06/09/ plant_oxford_mini_manufacturing_tour


GravatarCan someone from the rightwing please tell me the moral difference between blowing yourself up on a subway full of commutors to fight back against a nation that has waged an unprovoked war against a nation full of your co-religionists and purposely dropping 4 x 500 lb bombs on a North Bagdad public restaurant full of civilians because you received information that someone might be there who you KNOW was no threat to your own country and religious group? US forces did this, said "Well, gee we thought Saddam might be in there." and then never even apologized to the Iraqui families who lost loved ones while peacefully eating or serving meals.

Both sides deserves our opposition. It is a moral requirement of humanity right now.


Gravatartinyurl'd version of above broken link
http://tinyurl.com/dh5l4


GravatarEvery time there's been a new weapon, at least some people say "this will make war unthinkable". It hasn't so far.

Maybe terrorism will finally be the "ultimate weapon" to do this.

Keep the politicians and citizens who vote for them shaking in their boots.

When people are finally thinking that their personal and goverments behavior has consequences, peacemaking might have a chance for once.


GravatarYour comments here ,are usually childish, inane,off-topic and at best totally useless.

Nice mirror you have there buddy.

For one who stumbles into a room, makes assumptions about what people think, and whom they support..........why fucking bother...........

dw, just a clue, but most folks around here do not appreciate pompous zealotry of any stripe.


Anyhooooo,

hey there SS and QL, I am looking forward to WT's birthday festivusitivities. And QL, I appreciate you hammerin' on other locals like res.

Now it is my understanding that booze is rather pricey, so I may need to import some.


GravatarThe feeling is mutual.

Good. I'd hate to waste my passion on somebody who secretly lusted after me.

Your comments here ,are usually childish, inane,off-topic and at best totally useless.

And I'm sure you've saved all my comments to support your assertion, just like you meticulously gathered evidence proving I used naughty language first. I guess life in East Bumfuck, Maine, is a lot more boring than in East Bumfuck, Vermont.


GravatarAnd I'm sure you've saved all my comments to support your assertion, just like you meticulously gathered evidence proving I used naughty language first.


Yes I have all your comments saved and not only to conclusively prove that you were the initiator of the obscene comments. You may have also violated my privacy rights.

By the way, I dont live in EastBumfuck Maine.


GravatarYes I have all your comments saved and not only to conclusively prove that you were the initiator of the obscene comments.

How nice! It's touching that you find who said what first is so important, and that you've taken a special shine to me. I hope you print the comments out and bring them to EschaCon so we can relive this fun moment. I'm so looking forward to meeting you.

You may have also violated my privacy rights.

You try to bully me via e-mail and I will call you out, motherfucker. Don't you ever assume you can hide behind anonymity here and crap all over people, then expect to have your "privacy" protected when you out yourself with a nasty note.


GravatarBy the way, I dont live in EastBumfuck Maine.

Oh, golly, my bad. I just assumed since you had a Road Runner e-mail addy indicating you're in Maine, you must be in Maine. New Hampshire, then? Mass?


GravatarBush has the integrity of Nixon and the competence of Dan Quayle.
pretzelattack


And the same elocution coach, I think...


GravatarEvery time there's been a new weapon, at least some people say "this will make war unthinkable". It hasn't so far.

Maybe terrorism will finally be the "ultimate weapon" to do this.


Mebbe not, but it will give us a catchy new phrase, which I just invented it; "Think Globally, murder locally"


GravatarYou may have also violated my privacy rights.

ooooh, look out! He's gonna get the FCC after you for that!


GravatarWD; It's a lot easier to decipher a comment if quoted portions are denoted by <i>quote</i>, which italicizes them (or use b for bold), or using quotation marks, or somesuch. I feel sure you've noticed this, right?
Of course all that may very well be beneath you, which I probably wouldn't understand anyway, so....aw, fuck it.


Gravatarquote, which italicizes them (or use b for bold), or using quotation marks, or somesuch

helps to close your tags as well.


GravatarRagger!


GravatarMaybe I should start calling myself the Obtuse Caboose again...

But first, this cheapass keyboard is going in the fargin' trash.


GravatarTry

whatreallyhappened.com

for the real Iraq story.

If you are not energized after reading "The Lie of the Century" on that site, you are of the walking dead.

Be of good cheer Moonbats, as the worm turneth.


GravatarYou try to bully me via e-mail and I will call you out, motherfucker. Don't you ever assume you can hide behind anonymity here and crap all over people, then expect to have your "privacy" protected when you out yourself with a nasty note.

Come on you started this little fight and everybody knows it and I can prove it. You have no right to publish publicly anything that I wrote to you.
Your outrage would be a little tempered when I display your comments here in their entireity. You started it and run to the public with your fake outrage. The act of a big coward.


GravatarOh, golly, my bad. I just assumed since you had a Road Runner e-mail addy indicating you're in Maine, you must be in Maine. New Hampshire, then? Mass?

None of your business I would say. Or do you plan on further violating my privacy?

Is EastBumfuck Maine near Waterville/Winslow as I can assume that is the area you know best.


Gravatarhey, Atrios, I don't know if anybody here is addressing your post, so maybe you won't even see this, but I wanted to say that I've wondered about the alt weeklies' lack of interest in blogging, too.

Possibly, it's simply that editorial staffs at the nation's alt weeklies are too overworked to have been paying attention. Possibly it's that blogs wouldn't be likely to buy ads in their culture sections.

I'd also attribute it to the formulaic nature of the alt weeklies now -- publishing the same political columnists for decades, for example, some of whom seem almost ideologically averse to fresh political ideas or strategies.

also, you should know there is a new "Culture blog" at SF Gate, the SF Chronicle's web site -- it started maybe a month ago. I haven't read it much, but looks like it's taking advantage of the hipster / local culture infrastructure you mention.

If you check out it via the main page, on the right of the page, you can see how they're featuring it there, under a "Blogs" heading. They have a "podcast" blog, too, with what looks like interesting audio clips, including insider discussions with editorial staff.


GravatarWest Bumfuck, Maine?


GravatarWest Bumfuck, Maine?
It is downeast
So there is no West Bumfuck.
The sodomites are mainly on the Southern coast though


GravatarYou have no right to publish publicly anything that I wrote to you.

He has every right to publish something that you communicated to him.


GravatarThe Buffalo Beast has just started blogging. Check out http://buffalobeast.blogspot.com/
Not the alt-weekly newspaper in Buffalo, it's way better than it. These folks speak the way no one else does. Thank god they are around.


GravatarCity Pages (which is now owned by the Village Voice empire, but which was an independent local weekly for the first twenty-odd years of its existence) has a blog section called Babelogue


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