Greets, DWD. How many threads are we gonna have to keep track of, Atrios?
filkertom |
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07.30.05 - 8:24 am | #
Republicans:
Bringing you middle-America corrupt values one Red State at a time.
Shaw Kenawe |
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07.30.05 - 8:25 am | #
Forget stocks, bonds, even real estate. Campaign contributions are the most lucrative investments around.
formerrepub |
07.30.05 - 8:25 am | #
those cheap labor repugs are hurting themselves.
why the f.. am I awake?
1watt |
07.30.05 - 8:26 am | #
1watt, is that a rhetorical question?
I'd like to mention that Ohio is NOT my home state (that would be Chicago).
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
07.30.05 - 8:27 am | #
Now, the question becomes: Is she taking many small bribes, thinking they'll fly under the radar, or is she just a cheap date?
filkertom |
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07.30.05 - 8:28 am | #
Regardless of the outcome of this race, it makes me happy that it is getting national attention.
The Schmidt campaign might try to trash Hackett's military service, but I doubt he has any "corruption skeletons" in his closet.
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07.30.05 - 8:28 am | #
Filk, at least a few. I really do not know this Schmidt woman, but the pattern of lies and nastiness is sure clear enough.
Thirty years ago these people would have been eviscerated by the media. My, how times change.
DWD |
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07.30.05 - 8:30 am | #
DWD, problem is, of course, that the Corporate Media are part of the power structure. Many of them may not even mean to be, but they are.
filkertom |
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07.30.05 - 8:32 am | #
good point, mer.
And another positive outcome, whether Hacketts wins or not, is that he's had national attention and that brings name recognition.
Shaw Kenawe |
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07.30.05 - 8:32 am | #
DWD, that's it, isn't it? Even a few years ago they'd have had to resign 'for the good of the party' and all that other crap. They might not have meant it, but at least there was the appearance of being aware of your crimes, and suffering for them. Now, with todays GOP, all that humility and shame is only for Democrats.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
07.30.05 - 8:32 am | #
Doesn't take much to buy a Republican state rep.
Yeah, well it takes even less to buy a Republican voter. IIRC, just the promise of a measly $200 loan against next year's taxes will do it for most of them.
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07.30.05 - 8:33 am | #
CULTURE OF CORRUPTION!!!!
NYMary |
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07.30.05 - 8:33 am | #
I guess the sleep burblesperks are still clouding my brain, mer.
I read your post, then repeated it.
What a dork am I.
Shaw Kenawe |
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07.30.05 - 8:33 am | #
The culture of coruption is now officially the catchphrase of the Democrtic party. The only reason the DLC won't like it is obvious.
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07.30.05 - 8:33 am | #
i can never remember the spelling, so i will just refer to her as ms. batshit crazy.
hey, someone posted this last nite, driftglass, and i thought it well worth the read. tho i'm not nearly as optimistic.
That was the astonishment of his re-election: that 51 million Americans looked a criminal in the eye, steeped in his crimes to the point of bloody saturation...and then looked at a genuine war hero, a grown-up and, for all his flaws, more of a statesman in any contiguous five minute period than Bush has ever been his whole, sorry life...
...and said, “I’d like a double scoop of Criminal Dumbass please. With extra treasonous sprinkles!”
charley |
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07.30.05 - 8:34 am | #
Now, the question becomes: Is she taking many small bribes, thinking they'll fly under the radar, or is she just a cheap date?
What's that old joke? "We've settled that, we're just dickering price"?
NYMary |
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07.30.05 - 8:35 am | #
NYMary -- pretty much. How you this morning?
filkertom |
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07.30.05 - 8:37 am | #
Finally read the link-which is, of course, the Blade, which isn't anywhere near Cincy. Also, Mr. Ach needs to stay away from the bleach jobs and the tanning booth-what a hideous overtanned creature he is. Sort of like John Roberts gone beachy.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
07.30.05 - 8:37 am | #
The race has attracted national attention.
Tweety asked Hackett to define a "chickenhawk." Hackett shoulda said, "You oughta know. You're the living embodiment of one."
Lime Rickey |
07.30.05 - 8:37 am | #
filkertom,
Okay, if a bit shaky. I've lost my ability to sleep in, so when I stay up late, I still get up at 7. And I stayed up too late. I'm just trying to feel solid enough to go stand at the top of a ladder and scrape paint.
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07.30.05 - 8:39 am | #
NYMary -- aiee. Take care of yourself, huh? It's been rough all around, and I don't want to lose anybody -- especially someone I haven't yet had the pleasure of actually meeting.
filkertom |
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07.30.05 - 8:42 am | #
NYMary: I'm having the same problem, I need to become human enough to ride to the farmer's market without falling asleep on the way.
underwhelm |
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07.30.05 - 8:43 am | #
At least the bloody-damn heat has let up for a few days.
filkertom |
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07.30.05 - 8:44 am | #
Careful there Mary.
I feel so good about this race. We will probably lose, but damn, it feels good to be fighting. I watched Schmidt on Tweety last night. Gregory was the guest host. After she went through her schpiel of fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them here, Gregory pointed out her spin was word for word that of w's. Guys it felt good. All she could say was she supported this president. Ass wipe.
And I honestly think we have a fighting chance.
QL in NY |
07.30.05 - 8:45 am | #
Haha, filkerton, no worries. I don't go up on ladders where either the ground or myself are unsteady. I'll wait to wake up.
I love that this is all happening in Ohio, since it was the most egregiously stolen of the states. We ought to be able to connect one kind of theft to another. "The Ohio Republicans: watch the Culture of Corruption and see how they stole an election as casually as pilfering a state funds."
NYMary |
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07.30.05 - 8:45 am | #
Too bad politics has become all about money. I hate that.
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07.30.05 - 8:45 am | #
AMMAN (Reuters) - Lawyers for Saddam Hussein said on Saturday their client was attacked by an unidentified man during a court appearance in Baghdad this week, but U.S. forces guarding him denied any such incident took place.
A statement issued by Saddam's legal team, which has an office in Amman, Jordan, said the former president was attacked and exchanged blows with another person during a hearing attended by his main lawyer, Khalil Dulaimi, on Thursday.
dionysus |
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07.30.05 - 8:45 am | #
"Schmidt" is a way-complicated way of Saying "shit".
At least "Bush" is,well, only two inches north of the mark.
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TelltaleHeart |
07.30.05 - 8:46 am | #
I think the amazing thing, again, is that the media is just so complicit in their corruption.
This is the same, only slightly different: In Michigan, a decade ago, a ballot proposal was passed that took most of the funding for the public schools and universities out of the hands of local boards and invested this power with the state. The state - under republican rule - failed to live up to the committment. Funding for the schools has essentially diminished yearly while university costs have soared (Don't I know it!)
Now another ballot proposal is being pushed that would require the state to live up to their obligations to the schools and universities. A modest proposal, it would index the amount of money the schools receive to the CPI so that inflationary spikes can be compensated for and schools will be securely funded to make long-range plans. (Now this amount of funding fluctuates from month to month)
The point of this long post is this: the people opposing this, Republicans, the C of C, and the others who suck on the public teat at the expense of education are being being positively rude and incredibly untruthful about the proposal.
This culture of corrpution (Although I would prefer an era of exploitation for it is not so much corrpution as it is manipulating the systm for the benefit of a few) dictates that every proposal that might have an impact on "their" ability to exploit must be countered severely.
So it is with the Schmidt woman: it is not so much that she is corrupt, it is that she does contribute to the culture of corruption and exploitation; tickets to the Bengal's game, campaign contributions, attacking an opponent with vile lies.
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07.30.05 - 8:46 am | #
It kills me, beause I used to be able to stay up late and then sleep late--Thers stil can, I won't see anything of him until noon. But I can't.
NYMary |
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07.30.05 - 8:46 am | #
Media Matters expose' of the idiot Tweety Bird's attempt to label investigation into the fitness of Judge Roberts for the SC a "partisan attack" is enough to disgust anyone who cares about fairness in the media.
The WaPo also questioned any Democratic inquiry into Robert's background as though it was somehow unseemly or unethical for the Dems to do their job!
Meanwhile, the Goopers continue to prattle their inane and dangerous propaganda on FAUX NEWS, Scarborough Country and the inimitable Tucker Carlson's new (ugh!) talk show!
How did Keith Olbermann ever get through the rightwing vetting process?
Why can't they put on Al Franken or Molly Ivins or replace Tweety Bird with Joe Conason?
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07.30.05 - 8:47 am | #
Oh, and QL, I got a little snowman yesterday.
NYMary |
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07.30.05 - 8:47 am | #
.. ok, maybe three inches.
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TelltaleHeart |
07.30.05 - 8:47 am | #
1watt, is that a rhetorical question?
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
twasn't then but is now.
1watt |
07.30.05 - 8:50 am | #
So, what's $1000 in boxtops?
animus |
07.30.05 - 8:50 am | #
If we had a real media in America, the Ohio "Coingate" scandal would be getting 24/7 coverage. KKKarl Rover would also be getting constant coverage as would the $20 billion in Iraqi oil revenue that is unaccounted for since Bushboy's boys started cooking the books.
Instead we get missing white girls (or boys). Celebrity sex scandals and murder trials.
The mass media has become a tabloid dish of drivel served a heavy dose of melodramatic nonsense.
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07.30.05 - 8:51 am | #
QL -- wow. Gregory isn't perfect, but he does get himself into a pit-bullish froth now and again, don't he?
NYMary -- I realize that my view is tremendously skewed because I go mostly to science fiction conventions, where there is simply a much higher ratio of liberals to conservatives, but I literally can't tell you how many Ohioans I know who were pissed off by the last election, 'cause they sure as hell didn't vote for Bush, and neither did their friends, and even a few of their really Republican parents had had it up to here with Chimpy, and What The Fuck Happened?
If we can get an investigation in Ohio like the one that just kicked Diebold out of California, maybe we've got a chance.
filkertom |
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07.30.05 - 8:52 am | #
...and said, “I’d like a double scoop of Criminal Dumbass please. With extra treasonous sprinkles!”
charley - 8:34 am
well, chaz, that explanation makes sense--if you throw out everything we now know about how the fucking election was stolen by electronic malfeasance...Harper's this month has a piece by Mark Crispin Miller on the outright theft of the Ohio count: None Dare Call It Stolen... It's not on-line, ya gotta buy the mag (hint: SUBSCRIBE)...
mornin', my lovely 'batz...
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WoodyGuthriesGuitar(aka... |
07.30.05 - 8:53 am | #
Because of Shaw Kenawe on a lower thread I Googled "spork incident."
I wish to say I am "spork_incident" (notice the underscore) and have never fed birds in any way.
That the words "spork" and "incident" appear together amazes me.
But Rudy! We have to know if Angelina and Brad broke up or moved in together! The fate of our Republic rests on it!
Plus, Angelina's unthinkably more attractive than Ms. Schmidt, whose mouth is genuinely terrifying, even when she's not speaking.
NYMary |
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07.30.05 - 8:54 am | #
Really....what a two bit crook.
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07.30.05 - 8:56 am | #
I had to go to Pittsburgh recently to appear as a witness for the FTC in a case against a Pennsylvania firm. The case was being handled by attorneys from the FTC's Cleveland office. To a one, they all swore that Ohio had been obviously and blatantly stolen by Bush. Coingate and the other scandals just underline the fact.
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07.30.05 - 8:57 am | #
The mass media has become a tabloid dish of drivel served a heavy dose of melodramatic nonsense.
Rudy -- 8:51 am
the purpose of the State Corporate Media (SCM, pronounced 'scum') is to persuade the media-schooled suckers and sheeple that, no matter how badly they seem to have it, they're better (off) than the folks who capture the headlines...this they do relentlessly...
just sayin'
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WoodyGuthriesGuitar(aka... |
07.30.05 - 8:57 am | #
That's it! Corrupt politicians should be better looking, then they'd get more coverage.
NYMary |
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07.30.05 - 8:57 am | #
tabloid dish of drivel served a heavy dose of melodramatic nonsense.
Rudy
if i hear one my more breathless airhead...
oh, and i saw president chimpy's flip off for the first time last nite. of course i had heard about it, but when i actually saw it...
that was a big Fuck You to America.
maybe not as bad as the Bolton appointment.
charley |
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07.30.05 - 8:57 am | #
Being rightist is uglifying. The ugly manifests from the inside, out.
underwhelm |
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07.30.05 - 8:57 am | #
filk:
Their is an excellent piece in this month's Harper's magazine that describes in detail what happened in Ohio in the 2004 presidential election.
Basically, the Sec. of State, a man named Blackwell, violated state and federal election laws to enhance Bushboy's chances of winning the election with enormous complicity by Gooper apparatchicks in and out of Ohio.
They did everything from siphoning money from the state worker's pension fund to Bushboy's Ohio campaign to only allowing 2888 voting machines (primarily in Gooper districts), when more than 5000 machines were required to allow all voters to vote in a timely manner.
The result was long lines at Democratic districts (especially the black ones) and easy voting in the Gooper districts.
Bushboy lost the 2004 election just as he lost the 2000 election. This time it was the Ohio Goopers who committed vote fraud instead of their cousins in Florida.
Rudy |
07.30.05 - 8:57 am | #
"Too bad politics has become all about money. I hate that."
thats a joke right?
Bing Crosby |
07.30.05 - 8:58 am | #
Rudy -- I just looked over the latest rantings by Coulter and O'Lielly that MM have documented. How is it that these people are allowed to say such unspeakably stupid shit, and how is it that (as evidenced by the comments at MM) so many people agree with them? Yeah, yeah, I know. It was rhetorical. Sob.
filkertom |
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07.30.05 - 8:58 am | #
I wish to say I am "spork_incident" (notice the underscore) and have never fed birds in any way.
That the words "spork" and "incident" appear together amazes me.
Is nothing sacred?
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spork_incident
Well I'm glad you cleared that up. I've always been curious about your nom de blog, so I too googled, and came up with that piece about cannibis and bird seed.
I'm afraid that the last 5 years have shown that nothing is indeed sacred.
Shaw Kenawe |
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07.30.05 - 8:59 am | #
Filkertom, I don't know whether Ohio was stolen or not. But I do know an awful lot of my coworkers voted for him. There really are a lot of people, especially rural or those with a rural background, who 'like' him. If James Dobson says it's ok to like Bush, then they like Bush.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
07.30.05 - 8:59 am | #
And another thing (Sorry, something pushed my "on" button this morning)
The difference between "us" and "them" really is fairly simple. We are idealogues and admit it freely. Our biases are there and we are even proud of them. (We freely admit that we favor individuals over corporations, for example) But the opposition has no bias based in ideology. Instead, their bias is couched in lies and innuendo. The purpose of their actions is not clear and is often at odds with their pronouncements. The stem cell debate is one example: I doubt if their seriously believe that using embryos is paramount in their minds. Instead they look at the Christian right and try to cast their activies so as not to damage their relaitonship. It is not that they are thinking of ideology, their concern is for continued power through whatever means necessary with the unstated - though real- purpose being manipulating the system to press advanatage.
Culture of corruption misses the point, it is a culture of personal exploitation.
DWD |
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07.30.05 - 9:00 am | #
DWD: I see them as nihilists and sociopaths. Because nothing matters but winning, they would sooner flip the whole game board off the table than lose.
underwhelm |
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07.30.05 - 9:02 am | #
See, DWD,
I disagree. As long as it's systemic, it is a culture of corruption. You're right about how they accomplish it, but I think it's so broad-based that it's much larger than personal exploitation.
NYMary |
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07.30.05 - 9:03 am | #
When you see the parade of Gooper thugs who pass themselves off as "public servants" it's enough to make you puke!
Bushboy? Liar and depraved moron who went to war based on phony intelligence that he and his regime cooked up!
Cheneychins? Lies in his sleep with monumental frauds like "Saddam has reconstituted his nuclear capability!" or "the insurgency is in it's last throes!"
How do these sociopathic frauds (including DeeeLay) get away with their flagrent abuse of US laws to say nothing of common decency???
Rudy |
07.30.05 - 9:04 am | #
Personally, I think the best term that describes the Bush regime is:
kleptocracy.
Jennifer |
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07.30.05 - 9:04 am | #
came up with that piece about cannibis
If I had any cannabis I wouldn't hide it.
But some of the links resulting from this kerfuffle are intresting.
I've always liked the Netherlands for some reason...
Cheap and vulgar - what a combination.
Arthur J. GWPDA |
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07.30.05 - 9:06 am | #
Because nothing matters but winning, they would sooner flip the whole game board off the table than lose.
underwhelm - 9:02 am
i'd say nothing matters but power...
if they flip the board off the table, it is to cover their crimes, rather to express their distaste for losing.
imho...
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WoodyGuthriesGuitar(aka... |
07.30.05 - 9:08 am | #
WGG - either that, or they've already stolen everything there is to steal, so there's no need to continue the game.
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07.30.05 - 9:09 am | #
Buckeye -- like I said, my perception is horribly skewed by the people I hang out with. But... James Dobson. Ewww.
DWD -- you're right over it, my friend. We are ideologues who believe that government should help strengthen the nation and help everybody (including, I might remind the Repubs, the Repubs). They are ideologues who believe that undeserving (i.e. poor and/or different) people should serve their deserving (i.e. rich, white, godly) masters and those who can't help themselves don't deserve it. (It's actually funny to me how people who so adamantly deny evolution keep holding it up as an economic model.)
The scary thing about their stupid ideology is how very short-sighted it is. Everything they do is based on immediate gain, with no consideration of long-term circumstances... particularly the infrastructure -- economic, political, environmental, and human -- that supports their clique. Yeah, they can jack around the minions with cries of Liberal elite! and Family values! and 9/11 Saddam! But if they continue to crush everyone and everything underfoot, they will find eventually that their bedrock is actually sand. Or something.
filkertom |
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07.30.05 - 9:09 am | #
hmmmmBuckeyes...a hairless nut with no commercial value
Liars for Bush |
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07.30.05 - 9:10 am | #
underwhelm, WGG -- I think you've both got it. Winning is even more important to them than actually having power: The perception of having power, in their minds, leads to power itself.
filkertom |
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07.30.05 - 9:10 am | #
NYMary, then it is semantics and the difference is minimal.
I guess what I am trying to say is that their ideology means nothing without an obvious advantage. But our idealogy, because there is a little to benefit those in power (by virtue of wealth or position) is unacceptable.
Real beliefs: even if they are arrived at without much thought or documentation are different. These people only believe in continuing their own positions for exploitation.
DWD |
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07.30.05 - 9:10 am | #
Doesn't take much to buy a Republican state rep.
Hey! I want one!
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MisterX |
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07.30.05 - 9:11 am | #
WGG's right that it's all about consolidating power, but you'd think their consciences would get to them eventually.....
NYMary |
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07.30.05 - 9:11 am | #
But if they continue to crush everyone and everything underfoot, they will find eventually that their bedrock is actually sand. Or something.
filkertom -9:09 am
a little sand, a little water, a couple of other ingredients and you've got concrete, my friend...
WoodyGuthriesGuitar(aka... |
07.30.05 - 9:12 am | #
The perception of having power, in their minds, leads to power itself.
Ergo, the "creating our own reality" meme.
NYMary |
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07.30.05 - 9:12 am | #
You know, Ohio Republicans come so cheap, maybe we should start outsourcing our corruption to India. I'll bet you could get a guy in Bangalore to harass people about online gambling for less than a grand.
NYMary |
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07.30.05 - 9:13 am | #
you'd think their consciences would get to them eventually.....
NYMary | Email | Homepage | 07.30.05 - 9:11 am
Standard procedure. It's removed when you sign the Repub party registration.
filkertom |
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07.30.05 - 9:14 am | #
Hey! I want one!
No.
I would end up taking care of it. And you know what a mess they are.
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07.30.05 - 9:14 am | #
...you'd think their consciences would get to them eventually...
Oh, that's rich!
Jennifer |
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07.30.05 - 9:14 am | #
WGG -- yeah, but you actually have to make it. All these clods do is destroy stuff. Granted, they're really good at that.
filkertom |
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07.30.05 - 9:15 am | #
She's another Katherine Harris.
Lima |
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WoodyGuthriesGuitar(aka...
Gonna take that subscription today. We already get The Nation, but more and more I just can't read the NY Times
QL in NY |
07.30.05 - 9:16 am | #
She's another Katherine Harris.
Lima | 07.30.05 - 9:15 am
Just once, can't we get an Emmylou Harris? Heck, I'd take Jonathan Harris.
filkertom |
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07.30.05 - 9:16 am | #
I'd take Jonathan Harris.
Never fear, Smith is here!
BlakNo1 |
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07.30.05 - 9:18 am | #
Maybe she is Katherine Harris - they kinda look the same.
Lima |
07.30.05 - 9:18 am | #
Okay, this pisses me off. I'm just going to stop reading the news.
And I realized as I was writing it that the conscience thing was ridiculous, but really, didn't these people have parents? I was raised Catholic, so probably have more than most, but isn't guilt part of most people's upbringing?
NYMary |
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07.30.05 - 9:18 am | #
Never fear, Smith is here!
BlakNo1 | Email | Homepage | 07.30.05 - 9:18 am
I soitenly am. 'Sup, Blak!
filkertom |
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07.30.05 - 9:19 am | #
I would end up taking care of it. And you know what a mess they are.
MisterX's Mom
No, c'mon, I promise I'll take him to functions and tie his bowtie and clean up after his messes... pleeeease?
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MisterX |
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07.30.05 - 9:19 am | #
OT: (But kind of cool) I have been invited to travel to Washington (all expenses paid) to become a facilitator for G & T kids by the Eisenhower Foundation.
Maybe Hecate can buy me lunch. (G)
DWD |
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07.30.05 - 9:19 am | #
She's another Katherine Harris.
Lima | 07.30.05 - 9:15 am
Just once, can't we get an Emmylou Harris? Heck, I'd take Jonathan Harris.
But I bet you'd prefer Catherine Deneuve.....
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07.30.05 - 9:20 am | #
QL:
the Nation's good...though it tends to have too much a NYC slant for my taste (that, for you, won't be the same drawback that it is for me in NM... ) I, too, subscribe to The Nation, btw...
Harper's is just such a great mag. Incomparable, imho...I look forward with huge anticipation to the latest Index, and Lapham's ruminations are always worth reading...
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WoodyGuthriesGuitar(aka... |
07.30.05 - 9:20 am | #
NYMary -- actually, I think you just precisely nailed the basic difference between the Left and the Right.
Everybody has guilt. It's what you do, or don't do, about it that matters.
filkertom |
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07.30.05 - 9:20 am | #
NYMary -- you'd win that bet. :-P
filkertom |
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07.30.05 - 9:21 am | #
NYMary - i am so disgusted. This is why Americans have a reputation of arrogance and superiority. Bastards. This is a criminal act - to leave children abandoned.
Lima |
07.30.05 - 9:21 am | #
Mister X,
Did you ever see the Kids in the Hall where the kid finds a lost businessman? He brings him home and feeds him martinis, and eventually takes him to an office building to free him among his own kind, where he and the other businessmen smell each other's cards.
NYMary |
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07.30.05 - 9:22 am | #
NYMary - you hit on what I have always wanted to see some lefty say to Annthrax when she starts her rude screaming over the top of everyone else, which is, "Ann, didn't your parents teach you any manners? Don't you know it's rude to interrupt and shout over other people?"
Just to shame her publicly, on the air. But beyond that, I don't think having a conscience is something that can be taught. You can't pick it up by going to church, either. You are born with the capacity for empathy and fair play, or you aren't. These people weren't.
Jennifer |
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07.30.05 - 9:22 am | #
Lima -- to be incredibly snarky about it, what the hell ever happened to No Child Left Behind? God, we should ride that one for a few weeks at least.
filkertom |
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07.30.05 - 9:22 am | #
Actually, their all or nothing framing of the issues will eventually turn in our favor. Let's face it, these days if you don't worship at the feet of the chimp, you are a liberal. More and more people are beginning to question and will have to turn to the Dems. What is it, 65% want Roe left exactly as it is not. They must be liberals.
QL in NY |
07.30.05 - 9:24 am | #
Lima,
I'm trying to picture leaving Rosie in Arkansas while I get shipped to Mexico with no clue how or where or when I would see her again.
Family values indeed. Fuckers.
NYMary |
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07.30.05 - 9:24 am | #
Children are nothing but commodities to the Repugnant NeoCons - to be exploited in any way possible.
Lima |
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Well, this has been lovely, but cleaning and laundry await. Have an excellent day, fellow freethinkers!
filkertom |
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07.30.05 - 9:24 am | #
Okay, this pisses me off. I'm just going to stop reading the news.
Why aren't the fuckers who (knowingly) hired the illegals, and put their children in jeopardy, standing at the bar of justice, wringning their hands while their whole lives and livelihoods are confiscated to support the children whose parents they cheated?
jeesus, i hate the corporate state...
WoodyGuthriesGuitar(aka... |
07.30.05 - 9:25 am | #
Jennifer,
Historically, "Have you no sense of decency, at long last?" has worked, but Coulter would just cut the mic. Plus, doesn't she defend McCarthy?
People I know in the field say that empathy is learned, but it has to be taught between the ages of 12 months and three years. If you don't get it then, you never will. So what happened to these people that they can't experience empathy?
NYMary |
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07.30.05 - 9:27 am | #
Morning, Batses -
Tena |
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07.30.05 - 9:27 am | #
You are born with the capacity for empathy and fair play, or you aren't. These people weren't.
Perhaps, but it must be nurtured. These people seem to be stuck in a perpetual early adolescence.
QL in NY |
07.30.05 - 9:28 am | #
QL - more like they're stuck in the "terrible twos".
"MINE, MINE MINE! That's MINE!"
I didn't mean to imply that values such as empathy and fair play can't be nurtured. But some really good parents have raised some really bad people. With some, the nurturing doesn't take.
Jennifer |
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07.30.05 - 9:31 am | #
There's something else that pisses me off about that immigration raid in Arkansas: there is no mention of any penalty to the chicken packer company who hired them.
Yes, the immigrants had fake i.d.'s, but the INS and the Feds have a toll free number for companies to check on social security numbers to see if they match up with the job applicant.
Once again, it's the worker who gets punished, not the employer.
Diane |
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07.30.05 - 9:32 am | #
...where he and the other businessmen smell each other's cards.
NYMary
HA HA! Yep, that's exactly what I was thinking... my own Kevin Macdonald!
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MisterX |
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07.30.05 - 9:33 am | #
And of course, then you have people like George and Barbara Bush, who reacted to the death of a child by not speaking about it and going golfing instead. They have 5 kids, and I think one of them (Dorrie, the daughter) has turned out, as far as I know, to not be a total piece of human waste. So clearly there must have been something good inside her that bad parenting couldn't destroy.
Jennifer |
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07.30.05 - 9:34 am | #
Doesn't take much to buy a Republican state rep.
Jeb Hensarling, my rep, is a slightly more expensive whore. He cost Tom Delay $20,000.
Tena |
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07.30.05 - 9:34 am | #
Rogers and Hammerstein:
ARTIST: Rodgers and Hammerstein
TITLE: You've Got to Be Carefully Taught
Lyrics and Chords
You've got to be taught to hate and fear
You've got to be taught from year to year
It's got to be drummed in your dear little ear
You've got to be carefully taught
You've got to be taught to be afraid
Of people whose eyes are oddly made
And people whose skin is a different shade
You've got to be carefully taught
You've got to be taught before it's too late
Before you are six or seven or eight
To hate all the people your relatives hate
You've got to be carefully taught
You've got to be carefully taught
WoodyGuthriesGuitar(aka... |
07.30.05 - 9:35 am | #
So what happened to these people that they can't experience empathy?
Nobody ever said "How would you feel if Johnny did/said/hit/bit you?"
Yes, young things must be taught empathy - or at least taught that solipcism ends. The day I'd finally had it with Arthur biting my toes - thru my shoes - I turned around and bit his toes. Hard enough to feel. Nobody ever bit these loathesome people, not even enough to say to them 'stop!'
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07.30.05 - 9:41 am | #
What this article doesn't state is that the infamous slimeball Tom Noe invested part of the "coingate" money in Ach's company. Moreover, the list of investors in the company reads like a who's who of the Ohio GOP including Brian Hicks, former chief of staff to Gov. Bob Taft. Hicks was found guilty yesterday of taking gifts (bribes) from Tom Noe. Other prominent stockholders in Games Inc include Bob Bennett, chairman of the Ohio Republican Party; former Senate President Stanley Aronoff, and Lucas County Republicans Patrick Kriner and Sally Perz. Oh Yeah, and there is also one prominent Dem involved, Jerry Springer.
Here is a link to another Blade article about Noe and Ach.
There are several hundred more sites. This is how they do it.
This is what they want (just a start): http://www.acton.org/publicat/ra...icle.php?
id=219
The author of this article, and few more, is a billionaire. This is he our website. Howard Ahmanson owned the original AIS (electonic voting corporation) parent of ES&S. The other owners of AIS a pair of brothers now run ES&S and Diebold. Oh yes, Howard fund many right-wing organizations and instiitute, including the John Birch Society.
This is who they are:
Members of the Counsel for National Policy (CNP). This is a secretive conversative original hides it membership lists. But some people are breaking into that world. Here is some of the members list on a liberal (perhaps better descipted as non-right-wing conversative group of religious leaders): http://www.seekgod.ca/cnp.be.htm
They are playing for keeps and have had a long range plan to destroy America government.
EasyRider |
07.30.05 - 10:08 am | #
Buckeye is correct; there are still a lot of Dubya supporters here in the 2nd Congressional District of Ohio. I believe it was Mark Twain who said "When the end of time comes, I want to be in Cincinnati. People there have always been about 20 years behind the times". I like to think of Cincinnati more as the city where free-thought goes to die. Anyway, many of my neighbors believe this is the same GOP as during the Reagan years, and you cannot convince them otherwise. Hell they still believe Sadamm was responsible for 9/11, and any mention of lies or deceipt within this administration is the result of the liberal media. Ignorance is bliss.
I'm really suprised Hackett didn't call Frau Blucher on the "Ball" story though. Besides the bitch is fuckin' psycho, doesn't the "ball" actually refer to Osama? And if you take your eye off the ball (Osama), then the ball will come back and attack you in the form of additional terrorist attacks, right? So Cruella Deville just made the arguement for Hackett, that Dubya took his eye off the ball, got us in the middle of a shit-storm in Iraq, and allowed Osama and his merry men to continue their games. Or am I missing something?
Sully |
07.30.05 - 11:01 am | #
All of this sounds like Jean Schmidt must have been born in the south, put up for adaption, and raised by a family in the north, Ohio.
Schmidt is behaving too much like Tom Delay, Trent Lott, and other southern republicans who tend to shake donors for money to not be one of them.
Now imagine Jean Schmidt as a conehead standing at the podium before congress talking about a pending piece of legislation.
Now imagine her with a head as big as South Park's Mr. Mackey standing before the crowds saying " mmm'kay? "
Did anyone see Schmidt steamroll David Gregory (subbing for Matthews) on "Hardball" last night?
While I thought Gregory's line and style of questioning was poor, he nonetheless pressed Schmidt on Hackett's Iraq experience and expertise on the subject. But Schmidt would have none of it. Several times during the interview, she grew red-faced and shouted at Gregory as he tried to interrupt or follow-up. By the end of the interview, Gregory just gave up and let Schmidt take over and spout talking points right out of a Rush Limbaugh transcript. Pathetic.
Church Street |
07.30.05 - 12:27 pm | #
Ohio's Coingate is becoming increasingly interesting...
"Dramatic new charges deepen link between Ohio's 'Coingate,' Voinovich mob connections, and the theft of the 2004 election..."
That is the best Duncan and Media Matters could come up with? Come on. Time is running out. Go John Roberts on him already.
Cog |
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07.30.05 - 1:02 pm | #
"Doesn't take much to buy a Republican state rep."
Yeah, but think about what you're getting for the money. A grand seems pretty fucking expensive to me.
Billmon |
07.30.05 - 3:35 pm | #
Is there a law that all Repugs must be stupid and/or batshit crazy?
Particularly Repug candidates?
Geez, first Santorum - then this bitch.....
Terry C |
07.30.05 - 5:48 pm | #
Schmidt is behaving too much like Tom Delay, Trent Lott, and other southern republicans who tend to shake donors for money to not be one of them.
She speaks like that faux Texan piece of White Trash in the White House.
Even mispronounces "nuclear" like he does.
WHY do the Repugs celebrate illiteracy and treat intelligence with derision and suspicion?
Terry C |
07.30.05 - 5:49 pm | #
I've seen her photo.
The Repugs used to bust on Janet Reno all the time? Schmidt looks like Sic Rantorum in drag.
Hughes, Rice, Malkin, Coulter...that party has some of the FUGLIEST bitches on earth and they badmouthed Janet Reno?