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Morning moonbats!
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G'mowning!
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Private / Public? It's a fine point, to be sure!
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What baffles me is that the story of Jeff Gannon's shennaigans in the WH died so quickly.
This had much more weight than the blue dress, yet disappeared down the black hole.
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Two words for that Washington Post whore: Profumo affair.
Look it up, motherfucker.
dave™©® |
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This woman neglected to pick up shit. Gucky rolls in shit for a living. There's a big difference.
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This had much more weight that the blue dress, yet disappeard down the black hole. Mer.
Which says to me, that he must have been doing someone very high up the food chain.
I wonder if Jimmy/Jeff enjoys bicycling?
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I think that I concur with your point, Atrios, but "In the latest, a Korean woman who refused to clean up her dog's poop on the subway." needs to be punched up a bit.
It isn't a complete.
... sentence, that is. See what I mean?
But now I must Google "Korean dog poop girl", God help me.
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Besides which, if he was advertising his services online for money, that's professional, not private. Is there a line between professional and public?
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This had much more weight than the blue dress, yet disappeared down the black hole.
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I guess this shows that no one considers a journalist working for GOPUSA to be that far apart from journalists working for Faux Propaganda Network or Tweety on MSGOP.
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But Jeff Gannon, white house correspondent, was a public figure, not a private one.
"And he has a good heart."
--- G.W. Bush
attaturk |
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Are bloggers public, private or professional?
NTodd, Cookie Monster |
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It occurs to me that Gannon was private, or rather, shared his privates.
NTodd, Cookie Monster |
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It occurs to me that Gannon was private, or rather, shared his privates.
NTodd, Cookie Monster |
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My theory is that G/G has been some kind of operative all along and that moving from an id as a prostitute to an id as WH correspondent put him in a visible position where he could serve as both an outrageous megaphone for WH propaganda and as blackmail warning to various folks who might oppose the administration.
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I guess this shows that no one considers a journalist working for GOPUSA to be that far apart from journalists working for Faux Propaganda Network or Tweety on MSGOP.
Exactly. Who in the media other than Frank Rich, Molly Ivins and maybe a handful of other "journalists" has enough standing to criticize Gannon/Guckert. A media whore is a media whore is a.....
As if Tweety, Russert, Scheiffer, Cokie, et al are going to pile on and feign indignation over a fellow Bush whore?
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most bloggers are private, though any bloggers could engage in an activity which would make them public. Bloggers who have a larger audience and put themselves "out there" more generally are to some degree public. That doesn't mean every detail of their life is "fair game" - any more than every detail of any other public figures lives are worthy of being on the front page of the new york times.
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Yeah, cs, Americablog did a thing about how he was all over the Thune election in South Dakota, to discredit Daschle.
Here.
NYMary |
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Public, not public... Precisely.
dionysus |
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That doesn't mean every detail of their life is "fair game" - any more than every detail of any other public figures lives are worthy of being on the front page of the new york times.
Well, that nanny sure was asking for it...
NTodd, Cookie Monster |
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Dog Poop Girl v. Cock-Headed Manwhore tonight on Celebrity Death Match!
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Last time I checked, Atrios wasn't advertising sex.
But leaving that aside, when you are on the internet, pointing out that you're on the internet and what the content of those sites might be is merely making public something which is already public.
What does Jeff Gannon do in his spare time? I don't care in the least. I wasn't even all that worried about his real name. But if he's advertising services in an open forum, that crosses a line.
NYMary |
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That distinction is also recognized in the law of defamation. It's harder to sue someone for libelling a public figure than a private one. First Amendment, political speech and all.
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"People outside the Senate -- lot of common people, everyday people, might think, 'boy if you are a conservative and the other guy is a liberal you don't get along.'"
-- Larry King, Oct. 25, 2002
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Preznitwit just went for his physical tothe Bethesda Naval Med Ctr. They can check him out physically..but can they fix what is wrong with his mind? 
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Prostution was legalised in Germany 3 yrs ago I believe.
Gucky could go work in one of their "tolerance zones".
Germans green-light a red-light bonanza
Prostitution was legalised in Germany in 2002, to remove the industry from criminal hands and to improve working conditions. In most cities there is a legal red-light district, known as a "tolerance zone", but the trade is banned elsewhere.
Germany's largest brothel, which has 120 rooms, is in Cologne, where authorities collect €700,000 (£460,000) a month from the trade.
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This has been JimmyJeffJeff's argument all along - that his private life was unethically "discovered" and "exposed." But JimmyJeffJeff exposed himself - the argument does not hold water.
But I know very well that somebody inside the WH ran around stamping out the fire as fast as possible and that's why the story died. There's someone inside the WH who wanted that story killed fast - whoever that is is the person had JimmyJeffJeff signed up for overnights.
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In a way, what they did was genius (and I mean that etymologically, not in a complimentary fashion). Choose the absolutely most unqualified human being on the planet, use him as a blatant political operative, give him only the vaguest cover of legitimacy, and see what happens. By putting him in the press corps, they neutralize the press corps' willingness to discuss the issue, since it brings every one of them into question.
I also think that's why Gannon got a blog as soon as this thing broke. Same principle.
NYMary |
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What baffles me is that the story of Jeff Gannon's shennaigans in the WH died so quickly.
This had much more weight than the blue dress, yet disappeared down the black hole.
mer
[snip]
"We can think back on how the journalistic process worked in the 1970s: the Watergate scandal exposing Richard Nixon’s scheme for rigging the political process, or the Pentagon Papers exposure of the lies that led the nation to war in Vietnam, or the revelation of CIA abuses that showed how the country was drifting toward a secret national security state.
Indeed, the disclosures of government wrongdoing in the 1970s represented a real and present danger to those leaders who favored the transition of the United States from a democratic republic into a world empire where the people’s consent is managed through the skillful use of images, fear and myths."
[snip]
more...
http://www.consortiumnews.com/20...005/
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Shaw Kenawe |
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Tena,
If Rove gets indicted, I sure hope they seize his hard drive. I want to see that man's email cache.
NYMary |
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I think the Democrats may be catching on...
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Why is this distinction even difficult to master? Why are any of these basic distinctions in how life is difficult any more?
Might it not have something to do with a society where it is 'normal' to be forced to listen to someone's entire life bellowed at the top of their lungs whilst you have made the audacious attempt to go to the post office and buy stamps? Where assaults on privacy come regularly - but not from the public sphere at all?
Pfui. It's the same nonsense that finds a troll on Eschacon believing they have a positive right to track down anonymous posters at their homes -- a belief that breaching the quite ordinary and acknowledged barriers between public and private life is an act of bravery and modernity expressive of personal value. Being unable to recognise the difference and being unable to act on the difference in society is as uncouth and anti-social as it's possible to imagine.
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"Private" is the pretense that Gucky's gayness "doesn't matter" and "I couldn't care less" etc.
And it's true -- they couldn't care less about Gucky's gayness. They DO care about Hillary's lesbianism.
HILLARY'S A LESBIAN!!!!
is an article fo faith among Republicans.
Nothing is to distract us from this meme.
Anbd make no mistake, Gucky's gayness is in point of fact quite important.
Ask Sheperd Smith or Anderson Cooper.
Go ahead -- ask them.
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Last time I checked, Atrios wasn't advertising sex.
What, these threads aren't a dating service? 
when you are on the internet, pointing out that you're on the internet and what the content of those sites might be is merely making public something which is already public.
Yeah, that's what made me laugh about dw/wd/bill macdonald the other day, whining about privacy violation when I posted the e-mail he sent me along with his addy. You can do a lot to protect your privacy, but when you out yourself while trying to bully somebody, you've just taken that first step into a more public world.
'course, I have a different attitude about public persona than a lot of people since I've been cultivating one since the mid-90s. Perhaps it's not politic sometimes, given what I write here and on my blog, but I want people to know stuff about me because I write books and articles (or used to) and want to get word out about that. The photography, as well.
I'm also in the nice position that my employer knows I blog and doesn't have a problem with it. I still try to be cautious when it comes to work stuff, but all that makes up who I am as well, informs some of my opinions, etc.
That's one big reason I'm so into the EschaCon idea: people are coming out a little bit more to the community. I think that adds even more weight to what people say because it's a rather courageous act to publicly claim who you are and what you say.
Or something.
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Tena,
If Rove gets indicted, I sure hope they seize his hard drive. I want to see that man's email cache.
NYMary
I'd love to see anyone seize Rove's hard drive.
Shaw Kenawe |
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But, David, Shep claimed to have a girlfriend the other day. I can't believe you'd accuse a member of the media of being dishonest.
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NYMary - You and me both, but I've given up holding my breath til it happens.
I really thought that the rule of law would prevail. But now that the Repugs are threatening to fire Fitzgerald because he actually did his job, my cynicism has hardened.
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I don't think the question of interest is about G/G's sex life as an individual. I think it's about whether he was working as a protitute shill.
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any more than every detail of any other public figures lives are worthy of being on the front page of the new york times.
But with Monica they put every public person's private life out there.
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Hey don't look at me, Atrios. Ask Michael Musto. He's been following Shep's West Village pub-crawling for years. Shep lives on the same block as "Marie's Crisis" you know.
And on that list of people to ask about Gucky, don't forget Armstrong Williams and Grover Norquist.
David Ehrenstein |
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As to Shep's girlfriend, I'm truly amazed at the stamina of Katie Holmes.
David Ehrenstein |
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Dog Poop Girl, what a truly wonderful handle.
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NTodd,
we, the posters, are not in the same relationship to the public as Atrios, it seems to me, except on our own blogs. There, we set the boundaries. You've set yours to err toward openness, others don't.
But when anyone can google a picture of your penis, saying "you've violated my privacy!" is sort of stupid.
NYMary |
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If Rove gets indicted, I sure hope they seize his hard drive. I want to see that man's email cache.
You're a dirty dirty girl, and I like it.
Eli |
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All people who are in the public expect privacy on one hand and want a worshipping public on the other hand. They want their cake and eat it too.
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But when anyone can google a picture of your penis, saying "you've violated my privacy!" is sort of stupid.
Excuse, while I wipe the coffee from my screen.
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You're a dirty dirty girl, and I like it.
Hey, Thers wants to invite you up for a weekend. Are you gone this whole next week?
NYMary |
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Surely a woman who won't clean up after her dog is far, far more newsworthy than an unqualified male prostitute masquerading as a journalist while sleeping over at the White House? I mean, am I right or am I right or am I right? Let's get a grip here, people.
Also, am I bad person for thinking that public shaming of out-and-out flaming assholes maybe isn't such a bad thing? I know there's a helluva slippery slope, but I find myself having a hard time mustering any sympathy at all for Dog Poop Girl.
Eli |
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During the whole of a dull, dark, and soundless day in the autumn of the year, when the clouds hung oppressively low in the heavens, I had been passing alone, on horseback, through a singularly dreary tract of country; and at length found myself, as the shades of the evening drew on, within view of the melancholy House of Bush. I know not how it was - but, with the first glimpse of the building, a sense of insufferable gloom pervaded my spirit.
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Hey, Thers wants to invite you up for a weekend. Are you gone this whole next week?
Ooo, cool, I'd love to! I'll have to figure out how much vacation I have left. I'm back on Tuesday, and gone again a couple of weeks later.
Eli |
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But when anyone can google a picture of your penis, saying "you've violated my privacy!" is sort of stupid.
To me, it's a bit more than "sort of stupid." JimmyJeffJeff should have been laughed at everywhere he went making that claim. How many pictures of himself did he put online? I still can't believe he sat around in a suit on various TV shows and whined about how his privacy had been invaded. JesusChrist on creamed chipped beef - he had pictures posted of himself pissing and people actually let him get away with "poor me and my poor mother" bullshit.
Tena |
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(And was this invite idea before or after I said you were a dirty dirty girl? I need to know what kind of weekend to... prepare for)
Eli |
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Actually I've been thinking about this whole coming out bit quite a lot, and have even considered pooping out on EschaCon.
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The media reacts "weirdly" to Jeff Gannon because a lot of them see themselves in him; i.e., many more of them than we know about are on the take.
Please refer all answers containing the phrase "Tinfoil Hat" to The Department of No! They Would Never Do That!
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"But when anyone can google a picture of your penis, saying "you've violated my privacy!" is sort of stupid. NYMary"
Bwahahaha!
G'morning batties.
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Eli,
Before. Don't be like NTodd; bring pants.
QL,
Should I hang on to the snowman? Personally, I don't think it's going to be a big deal--"Liberals! Playing softball!"--but I know some folks are worried.
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(And was this invite idea before or after I said you were a dirty dirty girl? I need to know what kind of weekend to... prepare for)
Eli
Mary, Mary, Mary. We hardly know ye girl!
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Before. Don't be like NTodd; bring pants.
*looks downcast and kicks at imaginary dirt on the floor of hotel room*
Eli |
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Nah, I am definitely coming. Just that it will be impossible to hold on to any secrets once more than a couple of people know. It will be interesting to see what happens afterwards.
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Atrios, my brother, my man, you have got to
KEEP YOUR PIMP HAND STRONG!
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Personally, I don't think it's going to be a big deal--"Liberals! Playing softball!"--but I know some folks are worried.
I think we should have a rousing game of float-the-cube as well - my sailor suit is getting kinda patchy.
Eli |
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Nah, Eli. Thers is no Bolton. Heck, he doesn't even have a mustache!
(I don't think he wants one, but I would complain anyway. As with my question on the lower thread, "don't these people have parents?" I ask re: Bolton's mustache, "doesn't this guy have a wife?")
NYMary |
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No one gave a rat's patootie about Gannon until he made himself conspicuous by asking an absurdly softball question at a nationally televised press conference. Naturally, people wondered: Who is this shithead?
When people investigated his personal history, they might have discovered that he was an ambitious young investigative reporter... if that's what he was.
But he wasn't. What they discovered instead, once they had gotten behind his assumed name, was a lot of information which wasn't as important in terms of what was learned about this basically insignificant boytoy, but in raising the question: Who credentialed this fuckwit, and who is benefitting by it?
My recollection is that that's the sort of thing reporters used to do before they became celebrities.
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Preznitwit just went for his physical tothe Bethesda Naval Med Ctr. They can check him out physically..but can they fix what is wrong with his mind?
Actually, I'm more interested in seeing whether or not they release the results of this physical. AFAIK, they never did release the results of the one he took during the campaign. I think they released some hokey info about the physical, but they never did really make a full disclosure of what the physical turned up.
Something is wrong with the son of a bitch, and they are terrified the public will find out.
That's my theory and I'm sticking with it until someone disproves it.
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filkertom--How very short sighted
Wrong-- They have a long-range plan and have invested billions of dollars to see to their successful implementation.
Here is just a few of their sites they use across the nation to organize their corruption. These people are playing for keeps.
Here are some links to the GOP dirty tricks as they are practice. These are the GOP sites for training candidates and compaign workers and managers.
http:// www.leadershipinstitute.o...index_flash.cfm (Gannon trained here for two days to become a White House Press Reporter)
http://www.campaigntips.com/cont...m/ contactus.asp
http://www.campaignfundingdirect...om/ referals.cfm
http://www.usnetads.com/view/adI...adId/ 16604.html
http://www.campusleadership.org/
http://www.cambodiaelection2003....n2003.com&
cat=1
http://www.gopusa.com/conference/
There are several hundred more sites. This is how they do it.
This is what they want (just a start):
http://www.acton.org/publicat/ra...t/
ra...icle.php? id=219
The author of this article, and few more, is a billionaire. This is he our website. Howard Ahmanson owned the original AIS (electonic voting corporation) parent of ES&S. The other owners of AIS a pair of brothers now run ES&S and Diebold. Oh yes, Howard fund many right-wing organizations and instiitute, including the John Birch Society.
This is who they are:
Members of the Counsel for National Policy (CNP). This is a secretive conversative original hides it membership lists. But some people are breaking into that world. Here is some of the members list on a liberal (perhaps better descipted as non-right-wing conversative group of religious leaders):
http://www.seekgod.ca/cnp.be.htm
They are playing for keeps and have had a long range plan to destroy America government.
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Democrats lost in 2000 and 2004 with candidates Main Street regarded as elitist and aloof, to a candidate voters related to personally. Hillary isn't as obnoxious as Gore or as off-putting as Kerry. But she's got the same damn problem, and it can't be fixed.
This crap is printed as if it's gospel. Who says Gore is obnoxious and Kerry is off-putting? The whore media planted these ideas in "Main Steet's" head.
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And by the way - where the fuck is Cheney?
Has he appeared since he was supposedly in the hospital in Vail?
Vail, for all love - phoniest fucking story I've heard yet: A heart patient flown up to the hospital in Vail at what - 8000 feet above sea level. Oh that makes so much sense.
Tena |
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Guckert's penis was not a private figure, it was a public figure. He was wagging it out there on the internet for all to see in living color. And he even urinated on the internet.... er, i mean he posted a picture of himself urinating for all to see in living color. People are free to publically post picutes of themselves peeing. But they choose to give up their private parts when they do.
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when anyone can google a picture of your penis, saying "you've violated my privacy!" is sort of stupid.
Shit, I thought I'd taken those pictures down!
NTodd, Cookie Monster |
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A heart patient flown up to the hospital in Vail at what - 8000 feet above sea level. Oh that makes so much sense.
Ah, Tena, it makes perfect sense, once you realise that the apparatus implanted in his valiant chest is set to explode when he goes below the one mile limit....
GWPDA, Irate Scholar |
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AFAIK, they never did release the results of the one he took during the campaign.
Did he finally take that physical, prior to the election? All I recall is that it kept getting postponed 'cuz he was so busy with the campaign.
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Who says Gore is obnoxious and Kerry is off-putting? The whore media planted these ideas in "Main Steet's" head.
Well, that's kinda the point (although probably not the what-sounds-like-a-troll-but-I-don't-feel-like-
looking-for-it's original point). Once the media defines the candidates, they're pretty much stuck with that identity, and everything they do will be framed by the media as either confirming it, or a desperate and insincere attempt to shake free of it.
Eli |
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Hey, Thers wants to invite you up for a weekend. Are you gone this whole next week?
[sniff]
NTodd, Cookie Monster |
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Hey, Thers wants to invite you up for a weekend. Are you gone this whole next week?
[sniff]
NTodd, Cookie Monster |
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Hey, Thers wants to invite you up for a weekend. Are you gone this whole next week?
Is this the same weekend Thersites wants to go wine-tasting?, she asked hopefully.
watertiger |
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Heh. You said manwhore twice. For that, you'll always have my respect.
miles10001 |
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Lim Ricky - I couldn't agree more - that bullshit is Repug propaganda and has nothing to do with reality.
Reality says that Kerry won the election in '04. Reality says that the election was stolen, again.
Reality is real, but man it sucks. I hate it like hell that they've gotten away with fucking our election process so thoroughly.
Tena |
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Somebody remind me to .pdf the Crispin Miller article in Harpers, eh?
GWPDA, Irate Scholar |
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Lime Rickey-- That is standard operations and is taught by these GOP site. Lime your oponent,even for local board of education or dog catcher, Lime big, and Lime often. And you win. Easy.
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They are playing for keeps and have had a long range plan to destroy America government.
EasyRider -10:12 am
long term plans are to completely erode, undermine, and undo any and all protections offered to citizens by the form of govt that has been in practice for more than 200 years...
they dont want to 'govern,' they want to RULE...
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Did he finally take that physical, prior to the election? All I recall is that it kept getting postponed 'cuz he was so busy with the campaign.
Maybe he couldn't get his regular doctor.
Over 30 years later, and he *still* has a thing about physicals...
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Is this the same weekend Thersites wants to go wine-tasting?, she asked hopefully.
It probably could be...
Hopefully we can work some Dr Pepper-tasting in as well.
Eli |
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Heh. You said manwhore twice. For that, you'll always have my respect.
"I like manwhores."
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"cock-headed manwhore"
"cock-headed manwhore"
"cock-headed manwhore"
"cock-headed manwhore"
"cock-headed manwhore"
Why do I love to say that?
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Is this the same weekend Thersites wants to go wine-tasting?, she asked hopefully.
watertiger- Let's see. You're going to taste wine from the fine, fine vineyards of upstate New York? Deliberately? Will those be served from the bottles with screw-on caps or the little plastic plugs? Will there be someone there to administer glucose blood tests?
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Lime your oponent,even for local board of education or dog catcher, Lime big, and Lime often. And you win. Easy.
This is especially true in the teeming metropolis of Margaritaville.
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Did he finally take that physical, prior to the election? All I recall is that it kept getting postponed 'cuz he was so busy with the campaign.
Well, campaigning is hard work.
Is there a test they can run at Bethesda to prove my diagnosis of dry drunk syndrome? Advanced stage of dry drunk disease.
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It probably could be...
Hopefully we can work some Dr Pepper-tasting in as well.
Mmm...Dr. Pepper....
In Australia, it's Dr. Capsicum...
Wow. This is what happens when I get too much sleep.
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This is especially true in the teeming metropolis of Margaritaville.
I hear there's a large Shaker population there, but assault is a rarity...
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This is especially true in the teeming metropolis of Margaritaville.
I hear there's a large Shaker population there, but assault is a rarity...
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Is this the same weekend Thersites wants to go wine-tasting?, she asked hopefully.
It probably could be...
Hopefully we can work some Dr Pepper-tasting in as well.
Yeah. We can hang with Eli and let him be our designated driver.
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GWPDA - Well, I wish I could express my longing for a portable microwave and a pass to get close enough to use it...alas, words fail me.
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Is there a test they can run at Bethesda to prove my diagnosis of dry drunk syndrome? Advanced stage of dry drunk disease.
You're soaking in it.
Eli |
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okay is it Slime. I get excited and forget the little details.
lol
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Lime Rickey-- That is standard operations and is taught by these GOP site. Lime your oponent,even for local board of education or dog catcher, Lime big, and Lime often. And you win. Easy.
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That bullshit was from an article by Jacob Weisberg in Slate magazine.
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So if you're a White House intern you can have your sexual encounters broadcast in a government report, the one scandal scraped up after a $70 million vendetta.
But an internet hooker - a gay, male one at that - is of no concern to a press that gave us every salacious rumor about a president's dick.
The Bush admin beats down opponents on contrived charges of lack of moral values. They deserve to have every scandal - lying, theft, sexual indiscetions - paraded before the public eye to display their hypocrisy.
What might seem tawdry tactics in another situation is justified, absolutely necessary to break their power to harm others.
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"Yeah. We can hang with Eli and let him be our designated driver."
--NYMary
Eli, you must now realize NYMary had an ulterior motive.
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GWPDA,
We're pretty selective about which wineries we visit. No Chateau Screwtop for us. As long as they stay away from the Niagara grapes, it's not bad. And they're getting much better, esp. in the last decade or so.
NTodd,
You want to visit?
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We can go to Cooperstown if you want, Eli.....
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Well, I wish I could express my longing for a portable microwave and a pass to get close enough to use it.
Tena, you may get your wish. This morning's paper announces that the Feds wish to 'save money' by cutting the number of airport screeners at various locations, 'balancing' the system by adding more in other locations. And look! Denver, Sky Harbor, Dallas and JFK will lose screeners. Vegas (!) and LAX will be gaining them tho....
GWPDA, Irate Scholar |
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I think I'm going to have to see "The Aristocrats" tonight.
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"Yeah. We can hang with Eli and let him be our designated driver."
--NYMary
Eli, you must now realize NYMary had an ulterior motive.
She may need to get used to disappointment...
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This is fun. WKRC in Cincinnati has an online poll currently Hackett 79.9%; Schmidt 9.4%. Neither's outpolling Schmidt at 10.7% (via swingstate)
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Eli, you must now realize NYMary had an ulterior motive.
mwa-hahahahaha.
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Lime Ricky--Actually it is from the Nazis handbook.
Lie big, Lie often, and then do it all over again. But remember to lie big and often until the public is braindeath and believes what it hears. After all not everything they are hear could be lies, 'could it?'
Check the plan against the Jews by the Nazis.
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We can go to Cooperstown if you want, Eli.....
OooOOOoooo...
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You'd think the Washington Post would understand the Jeff Gannon story. After all, it knows all about whoring onesself for a buck or two.
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NYMary - thanks, but, but... It's 86F and FIFTYSEVEN PER CENT. HUMIDIDDITY here in Phoenix. I think I'll just stand around and think of Willseyville in order to share your bliss....
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watertiger,
Hold out for The Aristocats.
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You want to visit?
[wipes nose on sleeve, or would if he were wearing a long-sleeved shirt]
Huh? Visit? Well, um, yeah...that would be neat. I mean, if you wouldn't mind hanging out with a leper and all. But it seems you guys are rather busy, what with all the cool people you're entertaining, so I don't know how you'd fit me in.

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Hold out for The Aristocats.
seen it.
i could use a good dirty joke . . . over and over and over again . . .
watertiger |
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Huh? Visit? Well, um, yeah...that would be neat. I mean, if you wouldn't mind hanging out with a leper and all. But it seems you guys are rather busy, what with all the cool people you're entertaining, so I don't know how you'd fit me in.
We can point and laugh when his arm falls off!
I was going to say "penis" but thought better of it.
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She may need to get used to disappointment...
The Dread Pirate Eli...
NTodd, Cookie Monster |
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I was going to say "penis" but thought better of it.
It already fell off, remember?
NTodd, Cookie Monster |
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I was going to say "penis" but thought better of it.
Erm, thanks.
NYMary |
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It already fell off, remember?
Not everyone reads my blog, dear.

(hoping Keith Olbermann does, though)
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My blanket apologies to the Eschaton community.
I got 10 hours of sleep last night.
I don't know when the last time that happened was.
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The Dread Pirate Eli...
Hm. It's *not* Talk-Like-A-Dread-Pirate Day yet, is it.
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watertiger ...
How eff-ing lazy am I? I just ordered in breakfast. Never do this, but I am bone tired.
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watertiger - oh, I'm sure Keith does. In fact, he passed me a note for you in gym class.
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I was actually thinking of NTodd's critique of my parenting some months ago re: Gannon. Young Thers, still very much in the phase of his life where he likes to run around naked, has mastered a mantra NTodd finds damaging: "Nobody wants to see my penis." It hasn't yet caught on, but we're doing better.
If only Mother Guckert had been so thoughtful as to implant a similar idea in her boy....
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I still think that Jim/Jef is linked to that pretzle incident.
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res,
I knew a guy who used to do that all the time. then again, he thought he was a rock star.
YOU have a legitimate reason.
watertiger |
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(Cover your eyes, NTodd)
res, did you get my email? Is Tuesday cool?
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Young Thers, still very much in the phase of his life where he likes to run around naked, has mastered a mantra NTodd finds damaging: "Nobody wants to see my penis."
Harumph. You people, always trying to quash the free spirit...
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One interesting thing about the OH 02 race is that Republicans so assume it's in the bag that they may not have the vote fraud minions in place.
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Lie big, Lie often, and then do it all over again. But remember to lie big and often until the public is braindeath and believes what it hears. After all not everything they are hear could be lies, 'could it?'
I wish that just once, some "liberal" pundit, appearing on one of the cable "news" gabfests, instead of answering the inane questions by the host would just start reciting every Bush scandal, beginning with the 2000 election fraud, to the present. No matter what dumb ass questions asked by the "fair and balanced" host, recite chronologically every single BushCo lie, fraud and scandal.
Liberal spokespeople have nothing to lose. They are only invited on as make believe balance.
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res, did you get my email? Is Tuesday cool?
c'mon, res, c'mon, c'mon, c'mon...
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...so do I understand this correctly; G/G wasn't really reported on by other (or the real) White House press corps because all of them were afraid of what somebody else might dig up on them ? I mean, shit, come on, somebody surely would have the spine to ask little Scottie "How does a male prostitute who advertises with nude pictures of himself on the internet get a press pass, and how many times has this same manwhore spent the night at the White House?"..... feh
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NYMary ... Checking all my email now. A sec, s'il vous plait ...
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It already fell off, remember?
Alright, you guys. As the elder at this here meeting, what is the meaning of all this penis talk, so early in the morning. I mean an occasional penis reference after dark is one thing, but in the morning?
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QL,
Just getting the . . . ball . . . rolling . . .
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GWPDA - Oh that's just too cute for words - yet more proof that the Junta does not give one shit about terrorism. It's just a tool for them.
They can't be having with a victory in the GWOT, because then what would they use to cudgel the public with? Oops, there's a citizen with a brain cell left - get out the big ass terrorism stick and get to work beating that brain cell to death.
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And I'm not a cockheaded manwhore either despite the number of right wing assholes I insert my head in.
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Cover your eyes, NTodd
Why, is Thers walking around without pants?
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Just getting the . . . ball . . . rolling . . .
Oh dear.
NYMary |
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and at length found myself, as the shades of the evening drew on, within view of the melancholy House of Bush. I know not how it was - but, with the first glimpse of the building, a sense of insufferable gloom pervaded my spirit.
You and me both, buhbie.
Morning to all.
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Yeah, NYMary, I can do that. I will ask Not-Mister. For him it will depend on where he's working that day. But I can do it. I haven't been to that place in a while.
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Just getting the . . . ball . . . rolling . . .
Oy, just oy.
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watertiger ...
While I am eating that order-in breakfast, know what I'm doing?
Looking at real estate porn on Corcoran. A little way to simultaneously torture and enthrall myself ...
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Just getting the . . . ball . . . rolling . . .
I can just imagine that dear leader may think you've said a real mouthful......
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Tena,
It's no longer GWOT.
It's GSAVE.
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