When were the wheels ON it, one wonders?
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08.13.05 - 11:08 am | #
Fuck Barry and fuck Boosh. Both are liars.
bigvic |
08.13.05 - 11:09 am | #
3rd again. It is what I am striving for.
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08.13.05 - 11:10 am | #
No turkee for this general.
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08.13.05 - 11:12 am | #
We are so totally screwed. These fuckers have got to answer for the lost lives and huge expense this war has caused. All to have us walk away and Iraq become a failed state. That anyone is still supporting this fiasco is a miracle.
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08.13.05 - 11:12 am | #
Maybe this has been noted here before, but if not:
In October 1993, Master Sergeant Gary Gordon and Sergeant First Class Randy Shugart were killed during the Battle of Mogadishu trying to rescue a helicopter crew. They were awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor.
At the White House presentation ceremony, SFC Shugart's father, Herb, launched an angry, personal attack on President Clinton, blaming him for his son's death. The vulgar diatribe lasted for several minutes, during which President Clinton endured the embittered father's wrath.
At the time, I read about this incident in a German newspaper, but today the only on-line references I could find are on right-wing websites - all of which find Herb Shugart's behavior quite praiseworthy. (I won't link to those sites, but you can find a nice example at Powerslime.)
However, the German news article I read contained something you won't find on any of the wingnut sites. The Secret Service had warned President Clinton beforehand that Herb Shugart, a Clinton-hater who had been quite vocal since his son's death, was planning to cause an unpleasant scene at the presentation ceremony. Still, President Clinton chose to personally present the posthumous Medal of Honor to Mr. Shugart for his son's valor and sacrifice.
It may be helpful to remember that President George H. W. Bush - not President Clinton - ordered US troops into Somalia shortly after he lost the 1992 election.
Yesterday, a cowardly George W. Bush sped past Cindy Sheehan - twice - inside his blast-proof Presidential limousine as he went to an invitation-only fundraiser. Bush has spent the past week hiding from this woman, whose son died in a Baghdad firefight.
Bush fears Cindy Sheehan. He fears a tongue-lashing from an angry parent.
Bush is unfit to be Commander-in-Chief.
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JoeM |
08.13.05 - 11:13 am | #
Have mercy.
Karin if you're still around, yes I am starting my new job on Monday.
That's one thing to be glad of.
HoneyBearKelly |
08.13.05 - 11:13 am | #
Buckle your seatbelts ! The wheels are coming off and the driver is a drunk GW Bush !
xegar |
08.13.05 - 11:13 am | #
briefed Cheney, Rice and the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
Cheney probably scowled, Rice sat there with that dumb, pissed off look on her face wondering what atrocity she could wear next, and the FRC was likely busy playing rock/paper/scissors.
The general would have had better luck briefing The Three Stooges.
Big Daddy Mars |
08.13.05 - 11:14 am | #
Anyone got anything on the Iraqi constitution? NPR did a story Friday that they've not even decided what to name the country - later in the day CNN said if the thing's not done on time, it could mean civil war.
Yeah, I know - wtf does CNN know?
Still, I'm not seeing a lot of talk about what happens if they can't ink this thing on the 15th. Is it really that big a deal if they don't?
SalParadise |
08.13.05 - 11:14 am | #
Totally OT but there's a song out by French DJ Bob Sinclar called "Love Generation" that I can't stop listening to.
HoneyBearKelly |
08.13.05 - 11:15 am | #
Excuse me, but Gen. McCaffrey has been banging the drum to invade Iraq, lying about all the *progress* we are seeing in the phony Democracy we are spreading there and an enthusiastic cheerleader for Bu$hCo.
That rat bastard doesn't have a leg to stand on. Fuck him.
bigvic |
08.13.05 - 11:15 am | #
That's a lot of money to pay for a boat anchor.
Big Daddy Mars |
08.13.05 - 11:18 am | #
‘Grim reminder’
"The mission in Iraq is tough because the enemy understands the stakes," Bush said, alongside Vice President Cheney, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld.
That dumbass doesn't have a clue, and his minions don't either.
bigvic |
08.13.05 - 11:19 am | #
President Bush is a Leader who has the courage to lead. It is political courage. It is not poll driven it is conviction driven. It is consistent and does not change because of pressure or threats of political survival. It is reconfirmed every day. It differs from combat courage in that it is thought oriented not reaction oriented. Combat courage does not necessarily translate into political courage. Combat courage is admirable and you only know if you have it when you are in combat. President Bush has demonstrated that he has political courage and this is why he was re-elected. By owning a bust of President Bush, Commander in Chief you will be making a statement and in a politically charged environment, it takes courage.
You gotta be shittin' me!
Big Daddy Mars |
08.13.05 - 11:20 am | #
That's a lot of money to pay for a boat anchor.
...It would make a good hood ornament for that sexy Hummer.
Falstaff |
08.13.05 - 11:20 am | #
This is fun:
"In not-for-attribution comments, some administration officials acknowledge the uphill task. One option that will have to be considered eventually, they say, is amnesty that would forgive even insurgents who have participated in violence. Historically, they note, insurgencies end with some form of amnesty."
I guess this is what the wingnuts meant when they said that we need to crush Islamofascism.
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08.13.05 - 11:20 am | #
"The Bush administration has lost control of its public affairs management of this issue," said Christopher F. Gelpi, a Duke University scholar whose analyses of wartime public opinion have been studied in the White House. "They were so focused on this through 2004. . . . I don't know why they've slipped."
From the linked article. Perfect final graph. Lost control of the public affairs management? WTF?
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08.13.05 - 11:21 am | #
good morning fellow moonbatses!
for those of you who didn't catch this last night/ early this morning, I have...
video clips to be added shortly.
renato |
08.13.05 - 11:21 am | #
The thing I find most depressing is the longer the situation continues as it does now, the harder it will be for anyone anywhere to return Iraq to a relatively stable country, if it even still possible.
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08.13.05 - 11:21 am | #
‘Grim reminder’
"The mission in Iraq is tough because the enemy understands the stakes," Bush said, alongside Vice President Cheney, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld.
So why did Dumbass go all-in when he was holding a hand full of shit?
Big Daddy Mars |
08.13.05 - 11:21 am | #
the harder it will be for anyone anywhere to return Iraq to a relatively stable country, if it even still possible.
How was Saddam able to maintain relative stability?
And is that what it will take to keep the various factions from killing each other?
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08.13.05 - 11:24 am | #
I am a bit confused. Why would Cheney and Rice need to be briefed on this by some has-been general who has spend the last several years whoring for CNN?
Don't they have other sources on the ground, so to speak, in Iraq?
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08.13.05 - 11:26 am | #
I've heard Rummy say a number of times that we didn't write our constitution in just a few months - it takes time to build a democracy.
If that is true, maybe someone can explain why they have a deadline to write the constitution, a deadline to vote on it and a deadline for new elections?
Looks like we have another Bush toy, broken and discarded.
First it was a Yale education. Then the extensive pilot training in the National Guard. Then a Harvard MBA, Arbusto, Harken Energy, the State of Texas, the U.S. Constitution, the American economy, Afghanistan and now Iraq.
Georgie needs a new toy to destroy.
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08.13.05 - 11:26 am | #
"The Bush administration has lost control of its public affairs management of this issue," said Christopher F. Gelpi, a Duke University scholar whose analyses of wartime public opinion have been studied in the White House. "They were so focused on this through 2004. . . . I don't know why they've slipped."
I dunno, but I bet it has something to do with the mounds of dead people.
I think Saddam used the Yugoslavia model for crushing dissent. After that was broke up, chaos ensued as is the case here.
Same dynamic of ethnic tensions at work in Iraq.
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08.13.05 - 11:27 am | #
Chimpy is responsible for the greatest U.S. foreign policy disaster in the past quarter century.
There is no way the Goopers can blame it on the liberals. This is their baby all the way.
Worst. Administration. Ever.
You said it. Too bad for all those affected by their policies, which I suppose, is all of us. Some just suffer more than others.
And, of course, a few have made out like bandits.
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08.13.05 - 11:27 am | #
And wasn't he the highway of death dude? You know the miles and miles of dead burnt fleeing iraqi's at the end of ODS?
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08.13.05 - 11:27 am | #
First it was a Yale education. Then the extensive pilot training in the National Guard. Then a Harvard MBA, Arbusto, Harken Energy, the State of Texas, the U.S. Constitution, the American economy, Afghanistan and now Iraq.
Georgie needs a new toy to destroy.
I'd say he's doing a banb-up job on the US at the moment.
Big Daddy Mars |
08.13.05 - 11:27 am | #
Bang. That's "bang".
Damn fingers.
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08.13.05 - 11:28 am | #
So why did Dumbass go all-in when he was holding a hand full of shit?
Big Daddy Mars
are all of us...
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08.13.05 - 11:29 am | #
s/ Your Local Draft Board....
Didn't I read somewhere that the guys over there now are all on their second deployment? Ayup, it is getting very drafty around here.
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08.13.05 - 11:29 am | #
BigDaddyMars, I actually couldn't bring myself to actually read the 'info' concerning the bust, and now I know why. I'm going to go bang my head against a wall for awhile.
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08.13.05 - 11:29 am | #
you got mail auntie Jane.
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08.13.05 - 11:29 am | #
Read Josh's take on the bronze bust. Pretty funny.
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08.13.05 - 11:30 am | #
Shrub only knows a handful of cliches. One of them is 'staying the course.' He has no idea what this means - it's a lot like 'spreading freedom' in its complete inanity, but what it will end up being, after careful interpretation by the syncophants and toadies who constitute the US government, is a clear instruction to increase the number of soldiers in Iraq so as to kill more people. There is no exit strategy. There never was an exit strategy because there was never going to be an exit. The oil fields must be secured, the bases must be populated, the lynchpin of the neocon worldwide control must be kept safe. Ain't nobody leaving Iraq. Stay the course.
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08.13.05 - 11:30 am | #
QL .. Saw your post below. I think we are on for TUESDAY now w/Kent. Don't be shy.
res ipsa loquitur |
08.13.05 - 11:30 am | #
Halliburton.
Yeah, that's no lie.
The can smell a rube for the taking from half a world away.
Big Daddy Mars |
08.13.05 - 11:30 am | #
180 days out from the declaration of a draft! Mark your schedules now!
I do believe that you are correct, only surprised that it will take that long. They wouldn't dare do it during an election year and they won't be able to take the chance of letting it go for another year.
The only alternative to involuntary survitude as cannon fodder is for the Bush crime family to run away from all that oil and other spoils of Bush War II. Guess which one they'll choose?
What's this "coming" crap? The wheels flew off the axle months ago and the fucking vehicle is upside down in a ditch. There was a chance to pull out that would have saved face (even though everyone would know it was bullshit) and that was the day after *cough* elections *cough* But noooooooo.....
Jim |
08.13.05 - 11:31 am | #
But Condi said the insurgency was losing steam. Can't we just wait it out and cross our fingers?
Like Bush is doing with Cindy Sheehan?
Joe Briefcase |
08.13.05 - 11:31 am | #
If that is true, maybe someone can explain why they have a deadline to write the constitution, a deadline to vote on it and a deadline for new elections?
Because of the need for Inspirational Moments, like the toppling of the statue, which was propaganda, and the the February elections...
They hype surrounding those elections was the most incredible blunder. The real issue was the terrible security situation, which the elctions were not really related to. But all America saw those wonderfulo pictures and heard the enraptured joy of the administration and the wingnuts...
... and most people thought, "great, now we can get the fuck out of there." Only we couldn't.
Why the administration is considered "clever" is a total fucking mystery.
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08.13.05 - 11:32 am | #
Big Daddy,
President Bush is a Leader who has the courage to lead. It is political courage. It is not poll driven it is conviction driven. It is consistent and does not change because of pressure or threats of political survival.
Hahahahahaha.Hoo boy.Hahahahahahahaha.
I was at a social event last night. Didn't want to be there but is was an obligation. I looked for the least wingnut looking folks to socialise with and was surprised to be talking to a Marine Lt. Col. who was searching for WMD in Iraq based on areal photography and intel from the Pentegon. It was all bullshit. He is a proud Marine, but a bitter critic of Bu$hCo.
bigvic |
08.13.05 - 11:32 am | #
180 days from the declaration of a draft, there is required to be a trained draft military ready for dispatch. That's the rule under the Selective Service Act. Once the Act is invoked (understanding that it is already in force and passed - it merely has to be invoked) then there may be no longer than 180 to production of a drafted military force. Day One: invocation of the draft. Day Two: Lottery. Day Three.... and there you are.
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08.13.05 - 11:33 am | #
"The mission in Iraq is tough because the enemy understands the stakes," Bush said, alongside Vice President Cheney, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld.
no shit dingbat. ''mission accomplished''
earl in toronto |
08.13.05 - 11:34 am | #
There is no way the Goopers can blame it on the liberals. This is their baby all the way.
Why did Bill Clinton's sex drive force us into this foolish war? Oh, we are all so helpless before the Clenis!
Thers |
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08.13.05 - 11:34 am | #
Um, he appears to be wearing one of his little costumes in that particular representation.
res ipsa loquitur
Those little costumes are just gé.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
HoneyBearKelly |
08.13.05 - 11:35 am | #
Wow only $1995 for that bust of aWol in his flight suit winnin' the war. His action figure doll can be had for a lot less, and I hear tell his fart doll is the really hot item.
enaud |
08.13.05 - 11:35 am | #
Well, if this one is not working out, there is only ONE NeoCon solution.... On to Tehran!
cory |
08.13.05 - 11:38 am | #
They hype surrounding those elections was the most incredible blunder.
I think the Congressional purple fingers are rapidly turning brown.
Max Planck |
08.13.05 - 11:38 am | #
I was just talking to a guy who just got back from Iraq about three months ago. He has already served a tour in Afghanistan and Iraq.
He told me he got a call from the Army asking him to "volunteer" for a third tour. So, they are definitely scrambling for troops.
He also said he had some ultra-conservative friends who wanted to know the "real" story of what was going on on the ground in Iraq, blaming the "liberal" media for not reporting the situation truthfully.
He told him that they are not reporting the "real" story because things are far worse than what is being reported in the press and they keeping alot of things from the American public.
He said they turned white when he told them that.
Kid Charlemagne |
08.13.05 - 11:38 am | #
Why did Bill Clinton's sex drive force us into this foolish war? Oh, we are all so helpless before the Clenis!
The Clenis turned me into a newt!
...I got better....
seriously though, at yesterday's Cindy Sheehan rally in Phoenix, I heard some rightard yell at us, "Clinton lied about weapons of mass destruction too!"
Forever it's always the same
Bill Clinton is whom wingnuts blame
For all that goes wrong
From DC to Hong Kong
Have these whiners no shame?
renato |
08.13.05 - 11:38 am | #
If my memory is correct General Barry was a major cheerleader for Bushco in the leadup to the war back in 02 & 03 in his role as military analyst for one of the arms of the RNC's propoganda machine Fox News, CNN, MSNBC.
bushbloWs |
08.13.05 - 11:38 am | #
So 180 days IS the soonest. That should make for some really interesting situations. Bet there's another birthday lottery. Remeber when Nixon got the idea of taking the steam out of the anti-war movement by letting large numbers of draftable boys out of harms way with this kind of stuff? It bought him some time to get even more people killed.
I also blame it for the rise of disco and other brainless, late 70s pop garbage.
Nothing like being in danger to make superficial people think seriously. And that's the last thing that conservatives want.
EPT |
08.13.05 - 11:38 am | #
Didn't I read somewhere that the guys over there now are all on their second deployment? Ayup, it is getting very drafty around here.
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A guardsman neighbor was just called up for active duty - a middle-aged diabetic with a wife and a couple of kids, essentially drafted.
But I think his age and health condition only relegates him to being what Rush Pigboy would call a "staff puke", so his service and personal sacrifice don't count, even though he will be in a combat zone and will face danger daily.
Oh, also the guy hates the war and was also a big Kerry supporter, so feel free to spit on him when he comes home - you know Bill O'Reilly and Rush will.
Stinky |
08.13.05 - 11:38 am | #
Duncan, you and other Philly bloggers are written up in the Philly Inquirer today in the Saturday reViews section D
There is no way the Goopers can blame it on the liberals.
Oh Comen. It will go something like this:
Operation Able Danger. Bill Clinton could have stopped 9/11 but he didn't thus forcing Bush to "do something" and invade Iraq. Bush wanted to go in with the help of the UN and a coalition but the French and the Fifth Column of liberal Americans forced him to go in by himself.
We wound up freeing the Iraqi people from Saddam and would have done a lot more but the liberals in Congress and in the media (who kept harping on the casualty rate) wouldn't let our troops "finish the job". Essentially, Bush and our troops were "stabbed in the back" by people like Michael Moore who manipulated good hearted Americans like Cindy Sheehan into transferring the blame for the deaths of their children from the "terrorists" in Iraq to Bush. Imagine if we had had a "casualty rate" count in the New York Times during World War II. When all is said and done, the hand behind all of the media manipulation was Hillary Clinton setting herself up for a run for the White House, putting her own ambition and her party above her county.
SWR |
08.13.05 - 11:40 am | #
yes, let us never cease to remind everyone, so long as we live, that the right wing media pundits spit on our troops and the mothers of dead soldiers, during the Iraq conflict.
renato |
08.13.05 - 11:40 am | #
horrifying scenario:
A. extremely serious 'surprise' terror attack
B. iran found 'guilty'
C. iran attacked from air with nuclear weapons
D. draft implemented- tens of thousands of young men go into hiding
E. patriot act declared law of the land
F. middle east turns into inferno
G. oil prices hit new highs each day
H. iranian revolutionary guards move into iraq
I. usa in serious danger of being overrun in iraq
J. china accused of supporting iran
earl in toronto |
08.13.05 - 11:41 am | #
One option that will have to be considered eventually, they say, is amnesty that would forgive even insurgents who have participated in violence. Historically, they note, insurgencies end with some form of amnesty.
Wasn't bringing insurgents "into the fold" one of ReagoPoppy's cool strategies in 1980's Afghanistan?
Brilliant, my dear sir!
Max Planck |
08.13.05 - 11:41 am | #
OT - Quebec may soon be the first province of Canada to have an openly gay prime minister. Andy Boisclair is the front-runner for the leadership of the PQ Party, which is expected to win the next elections, since the only other party, the PLQ, is running at 21% approval rating (they are the party in power).
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08.13.05 - 11:45 am | #
180 days from the declaration of a draft, there is required to be a trained draft military ready for dispatch.
I signed up for my civil service duty. No word yet on my standing, but my state government is mired in scandal at this point. Heh, and it's not about sex.
bigvic |
08.13.05 - 11:45 am | #
I'm going to be offering a G.W B. piñata version, in a flight suit of course. I don't think filling it with candy would be appropriate though. Would bullshit make it too heavy to ship?
iceblue |
08.13.05 - 11:46 am | #
Thanks for the link, Luke! Susie's so cool. (And she's on the blogger panel at EschaCon!
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08.13.05 - 11:46 am | #
JoeM's comment about the contrast between President Bush's refusal to meet again with Cindy Sheehan and President Clinton's decision to personally present the family of SFC. Shugart with the Medal of Honor despite the knowledge that he would probably be personally attacked by the father of the deceased (as he was) reminded me that retired LTC. Larry Joyce, the father of another soldier killed in Mogadishu that day, Sgt. Casey Joyce, was also very outspoken about his belief that President Clinton bore responsibility for the death of his son and had a first-person article printed in Newsweek around that time. We had lived across the hall from the Joyces years earlier, when Casey was just a little kid, and I always felt so very sorry for their loss although I disagreed with Col. Joyce's reaction.
At any rate, JoeM's point is an excellent one: what a contrast between the deportment of Clinton vs. Bush. Which one truly honors the troops more?
twc |
08.13.05 - 11:46 am | #
So 180 days IS the soonest. That should make for some really interesting situations. Bet there's another birthday lottery.
The draft, once invoked is based on a lottery system, in which all males between the ages of 18 and 26 are involved. The first class of draftees will be drawn from 19 year olds forward. Once a draftee has received a number that places him as part of the draft, he will begin induction proceedings, starting with the various medical tests. Presuming the medical tests are passed the draftee will be assigned a classification. At that point, the classification may be protested to the local draft board. The local draft board has authority to alter a classification or in the event of board disagreement, to pass the decision up to the state and then national level. There are no exemptions for completion or participation in educational activities other than for completion of a current term or for seminary students or ministers. CO status does not confer exemption from service. The only cause for deferment other than medical, involve short term issues including caring for family members, which must be resolved within a matter of months. It is entirely possible that prior to a military draft concerning 18-26 year old males, there will be a Health Services draft, which includes both men and women, and extends to the age of just about 50. The exemptions there are extremely rare.
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08.13.05 - 11:47 am | #
McCaffrey's comment coincides with one that I heard retired General Wes Clark make last weekend when he was asked what he thought the situation in Iraq was doing to the all-volunteer military force. He said that he expected a drawdown to begin by next spring if only because the military just can't maintain the current pace of deployments without experiencing a serious erosion of capabilities.
twc |
08.13.05 - 11:50 am | #
yes, let us never cease to remind everyone, so long as we live, that the right wing media pundits spit on our troops and the mothers of dead soldiers, during the Iraq conflict.
renato
These people are just disintegrating. First it was the Schiavo fiasco and the media circus over a private citizen trying to honor his wife's wish to die with dignity.
Now they're organizing a rock n' roll weenie roast to protest Gold Star mothers who only want the president to answer one very simple question. "What did my son die for?"
What is next? Protests against cell division or gravity?
These people have cleary lost any capacity for reason they once may have had.
Stinky |
08.13.05 - 11:51 am | #
J. china accused of supporting iran
I think there was something in the Asian Times Online where it was stated the China had given some help to Iran through India. Help in the nuclear area, that is. I'll have to see if I can find that; it was a couple of months ago that I read it, I believe.
And, yes: we won't do anything to China. Maybe send Condi over to model swimsuits, but that's about it.
Big Daddy Mars |
08.13.05 - 11:51 am | #
"Floating Free: A March Against Gravity" coming soon to a wingnut church near you!
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08.13.05 - 11:52 am | #
Do you think the media ignores positive stories from Iraq?
Randomfactor
Positive stories like electricity being on for five hours yesterday instead of three the day before?
Stinky |
08.13.05 - 11:53 am | #
why they have a deadline to write the constitution? - 11/2006 elections, except if "something happens".
Zappatero |
08.13.05 - 11:54 am | #
Shrub only knows a handful of cliches. One of them is 'staying the course.' He has no idea what this means
No *DUH!* He is an enormous embarrassment to humanity. Give Arthur the keys to the Jeep and send him off to Crawford with a fresh shirt and some cold water for Mrs. Sheehan.
bigvic |
08.13.05 - 11:56 am | #
How fair will the draft be if a republican party connected guy gets 10G bail for boarding a plane with a pipe bomb?
All the rich kiddies will find a loophole like good paying jobs in defense related industries,sudden illness diagnosed by sympathetic doctors and mass conversions to the Amish faith.
notch |
08.13.05 - 11:57 am | #
OT - Quebec may soon be the first province of Canada to have an openly gay prime minister. Andy Boisclair is the front-runner for the leadership of the PQ Party, which is expected to win the next elections, since the only other party, the PLQ, is running at 21% approval rating (they are the party in power).
dissenter
As long as we get Poutine Pride Day I say 'Go Andy!'
earl in toronto |
08.13.05 - 11:58 am | #
Do you think the media ignores positive stories from Iraq?
Randomfactor
mr. sadr's militia had a BYOBBQ picnic I hear
earl in toronto |
08.13.05 - 12:00 pm | #
Incidently,during the Vietnam war,religious exemptions were valid for only Orthodox Jews and the Amish.
notch |
08.13.05 - 12:00 pm | #
McCaffrey briefed Cheney?
Why do I imagine Cheney with his fingers in his ears, shouting "Neener neener neener!"?
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08.13.05 - 12:03 pm | #
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peterboy |
08.13.05 - 12:28 pm | #
A wee correction, dissenter - provinces have premiers, and the PM is the big cheese of Canada. Thanks for the news brief - I hadn't heard about it. Gotta catch up on my Canadian news...
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08.13.05 - 12:31 pm | #
Speaking of fresh shirts. Jesus, did you all see that fucking shirt the idiot was wearing the other day. It looked like he fucking slept off a hangover in the son of a bitch. Probably did now that I think about it.
Vinnie |
08.13.05 - 12:43 pm | #
Charlotte,
I understand the real power in Canada rests with the Premiers due to Canada being a Confederacy. I liked how Ernie Ells(?) not sure of last name spelling, handled the great blackout.
We were in London, Ontario for a big softball tournament at Dorchester/ Slow Pitch City, and had seen the lights go out along the way.
Ernie was right there on the radio and TV, [which was generator powered] giving plenty of reassurance. No one from Ottawa was anywhere in sight.
boilerman10 |
08.13.05 - 12:59 pm | #
Incidently,during the Vietnam war,religious exemptions were valid for only Orthodox Jews and the Amish.
notch
You are mistaken.
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08.13.05 - 1:28 pm | #
All the rich kiddies will find a loophole like good paying jobs in defense related industries,sudden illness diagnosed by sympathetic doctors and mass conversions to the Amish faith
Employment in defence industry is a qualifier only if the draftee has been granted CO status, with the provision he will not serve in combat at all. This is not something acquired by being employed first. A medical deferment is always possible and is not something that can be provided against, with the note that since homosexuality no longer is categorised as an illness, it is not a valid medical exemption. Mere membership in any particular faith is not in itself grounds for exemption nor even deferment. It is possible that an Amish, Quaker or Brethren member could establish CO status, but he would then be assigned either to work away from combat or in combat support duties, such as medic. Only clergymembers and theological students may be granted exemptions from service altogether. Mailorder doesn't count.
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08.13.05 - 1:34 pm | #
GWPDA-I think you ignored the first sentence of my post.I dont doubt your facts,I doubt the Republican Party when it comes to protecting its own.
If counting votes could harm the legitimacy of a president not yet elected(2000),everything is possible.
notch |
08.13.05 - 1:51 pm | #
Wasn't bringing insurgents "into the fold" one of ReagoPoppy's cool strategies in 1980's Afghanistan?
That, and providing funding and training to Osama bin Laden.
And we all know how that worked out.
Seraphiel |
08.13.05 - 2:43 pm | #
The comment struck me too. I thought, now there's a guy I could sit down and smoke a joint with, chat about the war...
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08.13.05 - 3:34 pm | #
The wheels may be reattached to another vehicle before too long.
"Bush: U.S., Israel united in making sure Iran doesn't get nuclear weapons" 13/08/2005
"U.S. President George W. Bush said on Israeli television he could consider using force as a last resort to press Iran to give up its nuclear program.
" 'All options are on the table,' Bush, speaking at his ranch in Crawford, Texas, said in the interview with Channel 1 TV broadcast on Friday.
"In the interview, Bush said the United States and Israel 'are united in our objective to make sure that Iran does not have a weapon.'
"Asked if that included the use of force, Bush replied: 'As I say, all options are on the table. The use of force is the last option for any president and you know, we've used force in the recent past to secure our country.'"
According to Philip Giraldi, writing in the new issue (not online) of the American Conservative, it's to nuke Iran: (http://www.amconmag.com)
The Pentagon, acting under instructions from Vice President Dick Cheney's office, has tasked the United States Strategic Command (STRATCOM) with drawing up a contingency plan to be employed in response to another 9/11-type terrorist attack on the United States. The plan includes a large-scale air assault on Iran employing both conventional and tactical nuclear weapons. Within Iran there are more than 450 major strategic targets, including numerous suspected nuclear-weapons-program development sites. Many of the targets are hardened or are deep underground and could not be taken out by conventional weapons, hence the nuclear option. As in the case of Iraq, the response is not conditional on Iran actually being involved in the act of terrorism directed against the United States. Several senior Air Force officers involved in the planning are reportedly appalled at the implications of what they are doing--that Iran is being set up for an unprovoked nuclear attack--but no one is prepared to damage his career by posing any objections.
Umm, could the Emm Ess Emm pick this up? Especially considering that several of the hardened suspected nuclear-weapons-program development sites are in the middle of Tehran? So does this mean we are going to nuke the capital of Iran? And in this case would we parachute in exiles to run the place afterward, or attempt a colonial administration? What effect would the radioactive fallout have on our decision?
I mean, surely the NYT and WaPo can find a lede here: "US has plan to nuke Tehran if another 9/11." Can we get at least a bloody story out of this? Sorry to sound breathless, but the prospect of nuking Tehran is over my breathlessness threshold. As if we needed another reason to hope there's not a terrorist attack on the U.S...
The current issue of TAC also includes a sharp article by Christopher Layne, arguing that, while failure is pretty much a fait accompli in Iraq, there's failure and then there's failure. Getting out sooner, as Layne argues, would make failure less detrimental to America.
Say what you will about Pat Buchanan, TAC's a pretty interesting mag, particularly when compared to its intra-right-wing competition. I mean, honestly, how much do we really need another Sufi partisan article by Stephen Schwartz or another "Aha! NOW I've found The Connection!" article by Stephen Hayes?"
susan |
08.13.05 - 3:35 pm | #
Making Cheney's "last throes" claim an even more blatant lie.
bob h |
08.13.05 - 4:09 pm | #
I'm going to be offering a G.W B. piñata version, in a flight suit of course. I don't think filling it with candy would be appropriate though. Would bullshit make it too heavy to ship?
No, not if it was the Pretzeldent's special brand of lighter-than-air, calorie-free bull...and, man, there's a ton of that stuff heaped around his bronze-like presense...
sean |
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08.13.05 - 4:54 pm | #
"This thing, the wheels are coming off it."
-retired Gen. Barry R. McCaffrey
-It doesn't matter to Tipsy Mc Stagger...he can't ride a bike.
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08.13.05 - 7:52 pm | #
I believe that Bush will bomb Iran -- I really do believe it. They will have a 3-day or so constant bombing of suspected sites and awe the media with their pictures of "before and after" pictures (sans admission of dates of these before and after).
And then when Iran counters and gas goes to $120 gal. and we pay $5.00, bush will say we are all safer.
And many in America will believe him. How many? Depends on whether the dems can find a way to argue that there is a better way. Even Clinton has said, and is still saying, we need to succeed in Iraq and does not want Iran to have a nuclear program. That is their defense -- Clinton agrees.
Sammy |
08.13.05 - 10:23 pm | #
As Cheney said, "The Bush Administration is in it's final throes."
Dickhead Fan |
08.14.05 - 7:54 am | #