I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
You gotta be kidding!
2nd, I'm moving up.
I don't get it. Why make a mistake? And what does it mean?
So has Toby called Sheehan a 9/11
whore yet?
This clearly "proves" the conservative media is out to get Ms. Sheehan. (sigh)
I think Ms. Sheehan has twin daughters?
*Sigh*
Cherie Quartarolo and his grandparents, aunts, uncles, and numerous cousins told the AP he had twins.
She's going to be there all month, and so are the media.
Poor, poor W. She's a monkey on his back, replacing the cocaine he used to snort.
He did have twin girls, and they're both very disappointed in what his mother is doing.
My friends always urged me to have children: Societal Credibility.
Good grief.
I spent so much time on this, so:
So - the Iraqi resistance controls just about everything outside of the Green Zone, which they even occasionally bobm or lob mortar rounds into, and the Iraqi constitution is looking to enshrine shaira as the law of the land, which means we've just created another Islamic republic, and we've got soldiers harassing Iraqis and taking over their houses and stationing themselves in Saddam's palaces, and the WMDs we went there to find STILL haven't been found and were never there to begin with, and we've created a massive terrorist training ground complete with unguarded high explosive depots for easy access...
...but victory's just around the corner and we can't possibly leave.
And it's the LEFT who knows nothing about strategy, politics, or history?
I think that 
So where were the factcheckers? Or do they not bother with that anymore?
Damn it, Cherie, I forgot to add the part about Casey's twins being disappointed in Cindy!
Some fact-checkers they got there at AP, eh?
Must be where "Robert/Ruppert" works; he was too busy posting to LGF about that traitorous Cindy Sheehan to do his job.
So has Toby called Sheehan a 9/11
whore yet?
No but the entire reich wing has. So I guess maybe he did. But I think poor tobes let reality get the best of him and his poor head just could'nt take it.
Wow. In a way, I'm glad he didn't have twin daughters; they would be bereft of a father for Georgie's mad power grab.
...muddied waters.
I think that We need to start rethinking this from the beginning, dump the preconceived notions, and gather all of the evidence together to understand what really happened to us on 9/11.
Believe it or not, troll. I agree.
None my of my children are serving in Iraq. That isn't the type of thing our kind of people do..
He did so have twins - with Michelle Magalagulag!
That's why she knows what he thought! In fact, they're still in contact, like the dad on "Six Feet Under"...
CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll. Aug. 5-7, 2005.
"Do you think the war with Iraq has made the U.S. safer or less safe from terrorism?"
Safer: 34%
Less safe: 57%
No change: 6%
Not sure: 3%
I just can't bear the fact that all these sons and daughters are being lost for lies, while most of the country just looks slightly embarassed and turns away.
Maybe they just can't imagine the sense of loss and emptiness that comes in the guise of a knock on your door from a chaplain. Maybe they just don't give a shit. Maybe the country needs to focus more on producing good people, and less on producing good business practices.
This summer has just sucked. It feels like living inside a barrel of razorblades.
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Some people say that Michelle Malkin operates a black market in young, nubile white women who are kidnapped while on vacation in Caribbean islands and transported to become the second, third, and even fourth wives of rich Arab shieks. I think these allegations deserve serious consideration. Can Michelle Malkin prove that she doesn't traffic in human flesh, including that of the lovely Alabaman Natalee Holloway? I don't know; but these people sure do raise interesting questions.
Maybe the country needs to focus more on producing good people.
It did. They're in Iraq, fighting to help the Iraqis, and to help us, too.
Can Michelle Malkin prove that she doesn't traffic in human flesh, including that of the lovely Alabaman Natalee Holloway? I don't know; but these people sure do raise interesting questions.
Is it irresponsible to speculate? It is irresponsible not to.
Then, two months later, came what she considered to be a disturbingly placid meeting with President Bush. While she found him to be a "man of faith," she also said later that he seemed "totally disconnected from humanity and reality." And when she later heard him speak of soldiers' deaths as "noble," Sheehan felt she had to do something.
Hmmm, tell me the reich is not wrong in their assesment of Cindy's opinions?
Oh fuck facts, we haven't had any for years now.
the ap did a similar thing 2 days ago re Karl Rove and false statements liability.
kinda too complicated to go through here.
So I went a-trolling at the Corner of Douchebag Drive and Chickenhawk Circle, and lo and behold, what do I find?
Jonah Goldberg linking to LGF under the heading "More exploitation of Sheehan."
I just wanted it noted for the record that once again this proves that, although the right-wing punditocracy likes to distance itself from the racist ravings of LGF, they will not hesitate to use them when it suits their purposes.
(Don't bother going to LGF, it's some bullshit about how dailykos is exploiting Cindy Sheehan--nevermind that she keeps her own fucking diary on the blog and has done for months.)
Maybe they just don't give a shit.
that's the one I'm figuring on, seeing as Robert-troll downstairs doesn't give a fuck HOW many people die for his beliefs. As long as he isn't inconvenienced by higher taxes, mind you -- that would be just too much of burden to bear!
that's the one I'm figuring on, seeing as Robert-troll downstairs doesn't give a fuck HOW many people die for his beliefs
As opposed to Mr. Ubu, who has no beliefs worth dying for.
Sorry I don't normally use profanity.
"This summer has just sucked. It feels like living inside a barrel of razorblades."
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--Fielding Mellish
Yeah, me too. The worst. Filled with alcohol.
Robert is a good boy. Signing up for military service just isn't what our kind of people do.
Sorry I don't normally use profanity.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
Newsweek Poll conducted by Princeton Survey Research Associates International. Aug. 2-4.
"We'd like your opinion of the way George W. Bush is handling certain aspects of his job. Do you approve or disapprove of the way Bush is handling the situation in Iraq?"
Approve: 34&
Disapprove: 61%
Unsure: 5%
Not a stunner that the liberal media is full of fools who lie and cheat and steal.
Robert is a good boy. Signing up for military service just isn't what our kind of people do.
Cherie Quaratrolo | 08.13.05 - 4:14 pm | #
Nah. I prefer to whine about bad things are in Iraq and how they can't possibly get any better, like you liberals.
If Duncan Black's board was around in 1941, we'd be speaking Japanese.
What the fuck is wrong with 34% of America? Are they retarded?
As opposed to Mr. Ubu, who has no beliefs worth dying for.
Oh, I'm sorry, Mr. Uri Geller! I didn't recognize you there, else I would have known about your secret mind-reading powers to know what I do and don't think.
Maybe there are things worth dying for (though I'd rather have things worth living for, myself), but Iraq ain't one of them.
BTW, if you think it's such a noble endeavor why isn't your ass over there, sunshine?
Robert, you are really pissing me off. I know you probably don't care, but using dave's gravatar is not nice.
Perhaps the author, in her zeal, simply took license and gave twin daughters to Casey so that he might appear more Bush-like.
10:00 AM: Wake up. Pay no attention to mother of dead solider outside.
10:15 AM - 12:15 PM: Work out. Pay no attention to mother of dead soldier outside. Ignore the 2,000 white crosses lining the road to the ranch.
12:15 - 2:00 PM: Lunch with the twins. Pay no attention to mother of dead solider outside and calls from all over America for the twins to
enlist.
2:00 - 4:00 PM: Nap. Do not dream of mother of dead solider outside.
4:00 - 6:00 PM: Cocktails. Ooops! I don't do that any more. O'Douls only. Watch videos of me cheerleading at Yale. Pay no attention to the mother of the dead solider outside.
6:00 - 8:00 PM: Dinner. I mean HOE-DOWN. Make sure Secret Service brings in "real" food for me, Laura and the twins to eat. We don't eat that low-rent crap the morons around here eat. Pay not attention to the mother of the dead solider outside.
8:00 PM - 10:00AM: Sleep. Do not think of the mother of the dead solider outside right before falling off, otherwise she will haunt your dreams.
But Bush said Sheehan is wrong on Iraq: "I thought long and hard about her position. I've heard her position from others, which is: Get out of Iraq now. And it would be a mistake for the security of this country and the ability to lay the foundations for peace in the long run if we were to do so."
I would like to hear an answer as to how we are to attain the foundation for peace. What are the plans. How is the process to be started? who can be the peacemaker?
To only have elections or a constitution is not enough. There are too many objections to hold these noble ideals yet. First some kind of bridging of ideal must be made. I see nothing of the sort in the process, nor in reality.
Where is the beginning?
How do we get to the end?
If the Soros-funded Atrios was around in 1943, he would be taking about the WW2 Quagmire
If Duncan Black's board was around in 1941, we'd be speaking Japanese.
and you don't know there were people who protested that war while it was going on? And we still won it?
TJ,
I think that 34% goes to prove what Mr. Barnum said lo these many years ago: You can fool some of the people all of the time. Otherwise, I can't explain it.
BTW, if you think it's such a noble endeavor why isn't your ass over there, sunshine?
Pere Ubu
I'm sure he'll come up with some sort of lame justification (i.e. his job flipping burgers is too essential), but let's tell it like it is:
Because Robert is a coward, just like his Preznit. He's afraid to die, and wants other people to do it for him.
I do love it that the trolls think I"m so important and powerful that a) I have the power to control world events and b) george soros gives me money.
alas, neither are true.
If Atrios was around in 1962, we'd all be making Cuban cigars right now. 
As opposed to Mr. Ubu, who has no beliefs worth dying for.
Being a martyr is a noble cause?
I Gary Ruppert was around in 1943 he would be servicing Goering's sexual perversions inbetween making lampshades.
and you don't know there were people who protested that war while it was going on? And we still won it?
kinda funny that most who were opposed to the war were conservative isolationists!
As opposed to Mr. Ubu, who has no beliefs worth dying for.
Robert | Email | 08.13.05 - 4:13 pm | #
Sorry, Robert. Didn't know you were dying for your beliefs. Or do you mean letting other people die for your beliefs?
...using dave's gravatar is not nice.
Now, now - if it helps him get it up so he can jerk off, who am I to complain?
Yeah, I might find it a little creepy, but to each his own...
If Atrios was around in 1962, we'd all be making Cuban cigars right now.
and if Preznit Dumbfuck was in the White House in 1962, we'd all be just plain smoking, if you get my drift.
b) george soros gives me money.
alas, neither are true.
what!?!?
why the fuck do i even have a blog then?
But Bush said Sheehan is wrong on Iraq: "I thought long and hard about her position--"
He started bullshitin' right out of the gate. The bastard has never thought long and hard on anything.
Maybe thinking for long is hard for him, but not the other way around.
Hey we're makin' progress, but the treasury ain't fucking empty yet and our pockets ain't quite full, so we've gotta stay the course........until the mission is accomplished!
W.
Bushco's America thinks very highly of itself. The historical basis is the winning of WWII. After that, the best we could muster was a stalemate in Korea.
Unless you deludedly insist on including the likes of Panama and Grenada, we havn't won a war since 1945.
All of the wars we have lost were done so on the victim country's home turf. We will never win Iraq. It will never be passified, the country is ungovernable.
We'd have to utterly destroy the country like we did Germany in order to win. We're not prepared to do that. Iraq didn't attack us, we were the attacker. The rest of the world would never forgive us.
Yeah. So if you liberals hate crime, why haven't you joined the police force? Straw man argument. If you liberals hate pollution, why aren't you garbagemen? If you have Rush Limbaugh, why don't you just turn the damned thing off?
And since you liberals AREN'T IN THE ARMY, what gives you the authority to criticize the military?
alas, neither are true.
Just what we'd expect you to say, "comrade"!
BTW, Day 294 and still no word on "Issue X"... why the silence, "Duncan"???
Maybe the twins are snowflakes?
Newsweek Poll conducted by Princeton Survey Research Associates International. Aug. 2-4, 2005.
"In general, do you think the Iraq war has made Americans safer from terrorism, or not?"
Has: 28%
Has not: 64%
Not sure: 8%
If Duncan Black's board was around in 1941, we'd be speaking Japanese.
Incorrect. Even fucking Quakers enlisted for that war. Why? Because it was arguably just, it was against the actual people who attacked us, and the president was actually someone who had charisma and could rally the nation.
Yeah. So if you lib--
Shorter moronic brownshirt fuck: Mommy, I'm scared!!!
If Atrios was around in 1962, we'd all be making Cuban cigars right now.
and if Preznit Dumbfuck was in the White House in 1962, we'd all be just plain smoking, if you get my drift.
I was gonna say the same thing. Jackass would have burned up the whole shebang if he'd been in the White House there.
Doesn't mean he still isn't trying to get us all to meet his fucking maker.
Sorry I don't normally use profanity.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
NTodd
sorry I'm 1950 model.
Hey we're makin' progress, but the treasury ain't fucking empty yet and our pockets ain't quite full, so we've gotta stay the course........until the mission is accomplished!
W.
Vinnie
The treasury IS empty. We've been borrowing a dangerous 5% of GDP for five years now. The Chinese hold the notes. Now tell me, is this a "secure" national policy?
what gives you the authority to criticize the military?
gosh this is an easy one. the first amendment.
Ya know, Robert/Davecr/Al, changing your screen name while reusing the same gravatar isn't very effective if you want to fool people into thinking there's more than one of you.
Smarter trolls, please.
Hey Ruppert you fuckwit, this fucking mess has already lasted longer than our participation in WWII.
robert still here?
look robert, we know your mom likes you even less than we do, but i think you ought to go pester her for a while. after all, she's the one who decided not to abort you. i don't know why we should have to suffer for her mistake.
And since you liberals AREN'T IN THE ARMY, what gives you the authority to criticize the military?
ummm... 'cause they and the President work for us?
I kinda thought that was what the whole "democratic republic" things was about.
And again - if you think this is a noble endeavor why aren't you helping fight it?
Facts are such inconvenient things.
If you have to be in the military in order to be permitted (by liberals) to support the war in Iraq, then you should have to be in the military to criticize the same war.
"In general, do you think the Iraq war has made Americans safer from terrorism, or not?"
Has: 28%
Has not: 64%
Not sure: 8%
Okay, now I'm really fucking confused. What are the 6% who think Bush is doing a good job in Iraq but who think the war has made Americans less safe from terrorism thinking? That level of cognitive dissonance needs its own research grant.
And since you liberals AREN'T IN THE ARMY, what gives you the authority to criticize the military?
And since you AREN'T IN THE ARMY, what gives you the authority to speculate on what it is -- or isn't -- accomplishing in Iraq?
You could enlist, of course. But I supposed you think that isn't for your kind (or the kind you aspire to be).
Troll logis is circular, therefore it comes down to where the argument started.
Are we going to rewrite histroy all the way back to the stone age or just at the time the bible was suposedly written?
Associated Press/Ipsos poll conducted by Ipsos-Public Affairs. Aug. 1-3, 2005. N=1,000 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3.1.
"When it comes to handling the situation in Iraq, do you approve or disapprove or have mixed feelings about the way George W. Bush is handling that issue?"
Approve: 38%
Disapprove: 59%
Mixed: 2%
Unsure: 1%
A solid majority of the country agrees with us, not you, that the war is a clusterfuck.
If the Soros-funded Atrios was around in 1943, he would be taking about the WW2 Quagmire
There was the equivalent of the Soros-funded Atrios. His name was Prescott Bush.
If the GOP apologists were around in 1776, they would've sided with the Loyalists and called George Washington a terrorist.
We haven't criticized boots on the ground except in cases of intentional wrongdoing. What we do criticize is the political leadership that has forced them into an illegal war.
...the wingnuts are time travelers now? That's a fun game!
If George W Bush was around in 1876, he would've had his ass handed to him by Sitting Bull.
--oh, wait....
He can't enlist because he is too important here fighting the culture wars. And besides all those poor kids are over there and there is no room for him. Finally, his kind was not made for the army and fighting and stuff.
See, with all these reasons, our troll couldn't possibly enlist.
Why do Robert and Ruppert want us to lose in Iraq?
And BTW, we have many on this board that have served and served honorably.
If you have to be in the military in order to be permitted (by liberals) to support the war in Iraq
We aren't saying you have to enlist to support the war.
BUT - if fighting THEM is such an Important Thing, methinks you might be willing to put up or shut up, especially when you're so dismissive of the sacrifices of others, such as Ms. Sheehan.
If you cheerlead for an obvious clusterfuck which has lead to death and destruction to no clear end, you are a deluded asshole.
Ya know, (Brownshirt R)/Davecr--
Sorry, I'm the only authorized user of this gravatar. Always have been.
The brownshirt stole it.
Interesting to know you've seen it attached to "Al," however. Where was this?
A solid majority of the country agrees with us, not you, that the war is a clusterfuck.
Thers | Email | Homepage | 08.13.05 - 4:25 pm | #
Undoubtedly illustrated in the crushing defeat the Republicans suffered in 2004.
Wait a minute --- George Soros
isn't paying me?
You mean I've been letting Gary
Ruppert and Robert
blow me on spec?
Now I'm getting mad.......
Ah I see now, the troll just pilfered Dave's image. How pathetic.
I await, with bated breath and loaded firearms
the arrival of either of the bad boys, ruppert/robbert, on my doorstep to point out to me the error of my ways in my love of my country, and thenceforth to entice me into departing said country.
I qualified expert on both rifle and pistol back in the war days...
bring it on, boys...
if you got the stones...
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Wouldn't this AP story indicate that the writer is anti-war?
I mean, a father of two girls getting killed is even worse than a single 24 year old man getting killed.
Seems to me he's getting into the drama of the whole thing and letting his imagination get the best of him.
gosh this is an easy one. the first amendment.
Oh that pesky first amendment. It's just so... prebush.
Sorry for the confusion, Dave, I just figured it was all the same troll.
Ms. Sheehan has a right to her opinion about Iraq. So do I. I guess if you're not liberal, you need a license to speak in this country.
CBS News Poll. July 29-Aug. 2, 2005.
"Do you think the result of the war with Iraq was worth the loss of American life and other costs of attacking Iraq, or not worth it?"
Worth it: 34%
Not worth it: 59%
Not sure: 7%
And since you liberals AREN'T IN THE ARMY, what gives you the authority to criticize the military?
I believe its called citizenship in a free democracy.
Or at least it used to be called that. Maybe not so much anymore -- if Robert is right.
"As opposed to Mr. Ubu, who has no beliefs worth dying for." Robert
And if true, that would be a bad thing? -- why? Oh, never mind you reactionary grey spot that lives in fear.
Undoubtedly illustrated in the crushing defeat the Republicans suffered in 2004.
Umm, that was then, this now?
They *have* rolled out the new line of autumn wear ya know.
See, with all these reasons, our troll couldn't possibly enlist.
plus, you have to be older than 12, and I think there are probably some minimum IQ requirements.
but don't worry robert, they are lowering enlistment standards continually as they need new meat, so you might get a chance yet.
few aroma's know to man are more attractive than that of a frustrated trool.
they read minds.
they're capable of time travel.
know how to do most anything.
yet, never get much done except for destruction.
ijits, destruction is easy. creation is difficult.
-J.T.
Ms. Sheehan has a right to her opinion about Iraq. So do I. I guess if you're not liberal, you need a license to speak in this country.
You're making an ass of yourself just fine even without the licence.
sorry I'm 1950 model.
An Edsel?
If you have to be in the military in order to be permitted (by liberals) to support the war in Iraq, then you should have to be in the military to criticize the same war.
First off, I don't believe in the whole "why don't you sign up thing" as I've said before.
Second, what the fuck kind of stupid twisted logic are you using? It's one thing to start with a faulty premise. It's another to arrive at the exact wrong conclusion from that premise.
There was the equivalent of the Soros-funded Atrios. His name was Prescott Bush.
I didn't think it was the WW2 Quagmire (that didn't exist) that bothered Prescott as must as his inablity to make any more money with his Nazi friends. That goddamn commie FDR! Prescott was only helpin' his friend make a little gas--
Oh that pesky first amendment. It's just so... prebush.
i know, i have a pre-bush mindset.
Pitchforks + Torches--'used' to snort?
No way in hell is Chimpy sober.
Worth it: 34%
Not worth it: 59%
Not sure: 7%
Thers | Email | Homepage | 08.13.05 - 4:28 pm | #
2004
George W. Bush: 50.7 %
John F. Kerry: 48.2 %
Sorry for the confusion, Dave, I just figured it was all the same troll.
No, I'm a completely different troll! 
So did you see my gravatar on a comment from "Al"? Where was that at?
Or at least it used to be called that. Maybe not so much anymore -- if Robert is right.
everytime we arecritised for critising the government, the military or jeebus forbid, the president, they are advocating the elimination of freespeech and all those truths we hold to be self evident.
A stolen election is not a referendum, nor is it a mandate.
The treasury IS empty. We've been borrowing a dangerous 5% of GDP for five years now. The Chinese hold the notes. Now tell me, is this a "secure" national policy?
Pitchforks and Torches
That's way understated, we're spending the 15% of withholding from social security as fast as it comes in.
There was the equivalent of the Soros-funded Atrios. His name was Prescott Bush.
and don't forget all the buisnessmen (*coughFordcough*) who were perfectly willing to work with Hitler and Mussolini.
AND there's the fact that we could have fought fascism back in 1936 in Spain, but the U.S. didn't want to piss off their good buddy Hitler, or to throw in with those icky Comunists...
AND I wonder if Robbie is one of those wonderful conservatives who was more than willing to bad-mouth the troops when Clinton sent them into battle in Europe and Haiti.
2004
George W. Bush: 50.7 %
John F. Kerry: 48.2 %
And this is 2005. The Republic still stands, and the debate continues. It did not end last November.
steve smiels,
I'm sure Soros owes you with interest.
The treasury IS empty. We've been borrowing a dangerous 5% of GDP for five years now. The Chinese hold the notes. Now tell me, is this a "secure" national policy?
Pitchforks and Torches | Email | 08.13.05 - 4:23 pm | # ..........................Its the old mafioso "bustout".Weasel yourself into a stable well respected business,borrow until they no more and then burn the joint for the insurance.
A stolen election is not a referendum, nor is it a mandate.
Sallyh | Email | Homepage | 08.13.05 - 4:31 pm | #
I guess all the elections you lost since 1994 were stolen, too.
Undoubtedly illustrated in the crushing defeat the Republicans suffered in 2004.
Wow. You just can't face reality. Amazing.
It can be established mathematically that the probability that Bush won the 2004 election is very, very small.
What exactly is Laura Bush doing at the ranch all day that keeps her too busy to walk down the driveway and talk to Cindy Sheehan, mother-to-mother?
Does it really take that long to come up with a good lie to respond to "Why aren't Jenna and not-Jenna fighting if the cause is so noble?"
Or is she just having too much fun playing Nintendo with Chimpy?
2004
George W. Bush: 50.7 %
John F. Kerry: 48.2 %
shorter Robert:
"duh, Bush got a bare majority, so everything that comes out of my cakehole is the gospel truth, so there NYAAAH!"
Thomas Zapp, the father of another soldier killed in Iraq in November 2004, came to rally for Bush and "talk to Cindy."
"She expresses her opinion and I want to express mine to her. She has no right to call Bush a murderer and to compare him to Saddam Hussein," he said.
Um, Mr. Zapp? Actually, she does have that right.
A stolen election is not a referendum, nor is it a mandate.
It is, however, at least in my book, treason.
And since you liberals AREN'T IN THE ARMY, what gives you the authority to criticize the military?
I don't know. Maybe you should ask Paul Hackett. Obviously, you're not in Iraq, so I wouldn't ask you.
melior--my guess is that Laura stays hopped up on Xanax and tequila all day, and is trotted out only when necessary.
Ms. Sheehan has a right to her opinion about Iraq. So do I. I guess if you're not liberal, you need a license to speak in this country.
Indeed. And you have the right to go express your fucking uninformed opinion somewhere else, like FreeRepublic or LGF.
It can be established mathematically that the probability that Bush won the 2004 election is very, very small.
sixteen million to one.
Yeah, I might find it a little creepy, but to each his own...
dave™©®
Funny how Kampus Kop Bob has time to steal gravatars. You'd think the Police Academy would keep him occupied. I'll bet anyone here five bucks that he failed the psych eval and wasn't admitted.
Take heart, Robert. You can always join the MPs. I hear the numbers are so bad that they are lowering their standards, so you'd probably qualify.
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So did you see my gravatar on a comment from "Al"? Where was that at?
I didn't, actually, Al just seems to be the troll-name-with-nine-lives at many of the forums.
An Edsel?
a Studebaker. First two cars '52 President, 57 Silverhawk.
2004
George W. Bush: 50.7 %
John F. Kerry: 48.2 %
shorter Robert:
"duh, Bush got a bare majority, so everything that comes out of my cakehole is the gospel truth, so there NYAAAH!"
Pere Ubu | Email | Homepage | 08.13.05 - 4:33 pm | #
Maybe I should just point to a poll instead of taking the will of the electorate, then? If your arguments were so brilliant, why did you lose the election?
You mean I've been letting Gary
Ruppert and Robert
blow me on spec?
Now I'm getting mad.......
steve simels
Now that is just sad. Usually a blow job is its own reward. But I guess these guys can't even do that right.
Welcome back Steve
Newsweek Poll conducted by Princeton Survey Research Associates International. Aug. 2-4, 2005. N=1,004 adults nationwide
"Now thinking about the situation in Iraq: All in all, do you think the United States is making progress or losing ground in its efforts to establish security and democracy in Iraq?"
Making progress: 40%
Losing ground: 50%
Not sure: 10%
NTodd--they are free to express their opinions anywhere they want--this is a free speech zone--but they don't have the right to employ fallacy in their opinions.
Getting a blow job from a troll is like being serenaded by Barry Manilow.
No feedee trolee! Makee threadee too longee!
I'm not a techie but I find it a real pain in the neck that normal refreshes don't bring up new posts at this site. I guess I should just dig into the archives all the time--that trick is well-known--but what an annoyance. Any help, Atrios?
And on the tread below, obviously, I wasn't advocating advancing into Iran but I think it's inevitable now and there is nothing we can do to stop it. What can we do after nuclear weapons go off here? They designed 911 and they'll design that scenario.
Somebody please explain to me why "dying for something" makes it automatically valid and worthy?
Or is she just having too much fun playing Nintendo with Chimpy?
AMrio is WAY to complicated for a chickenshit brain lie theirs to comprehend.
Mr. Zapp? Actually, she does have that right.
Both their kids died to protect that right.
I hope someone shoved that down his throat.
Get out of Iraq now. And it would be a mistake for the security of this country.
Of course when we do cut and run, BushCo will insist we are not cutting and running.
They will berate the media for saying we cut and run. Karl and his media team will call Wolf and Candy and Joe and Chris and Matt and Judy and Tucker and Timmeh and Brian to insist we did not cut and run.
And they will say, yes, even if we are cutting and running, it's really what we said we'd do all along.
Right about 11/06.
Cheney is insane. Recall the last debate...
And on the tread below, obviously, I wasn't advocating advancing into Iran but I think it's inevitable now and there is nothing we can do to stop it
Then you need a draft.
How does one explain factors in Chimpy's 'win' such as 4500 votes from a district where only 800 registered voters live (oddly enough, all of them for Bush)?
How does one also explain 98.5 percent turnout in districts where the normal turnout is usually around half?
Somebody please explain to me why "dying for something" makes it automatically valid and worthy?
Allah Ackbar baby, allah ackbar.
NTodd--they are free to express their opinions anywhere they want--this is a free speech zone--but they don't have the right to employ fallacy in their opinions.
Sallyh | Email | Homepage | 08.13.05 - 4:35 pm | #
Riiiiight. And you choose to believe that a massive conspiracy, somehow, cheated you out of the White House not only in 2000, but in 2004.
What about Diebold refusing to open source its code?
Maybe I should just point to a poll instead of taking the will of the electorate, then?
you guys were quick enough to point at the polls when they were skewing your way.
atrios, could you turn on the exhaust fan? the robert smell is becoming unbearable.
Robert--James Tobin has been indicted on 5 counts of conspiracy to commit voter fraud.
"I guess if you're not liberal, you need a license to speak in this country."
He's on to our plan to take away freedom of speech from conservatives by losing the last two elections, putting a baboon in the White House, stripping us of all of our liberties, sending our future to Iraq to ensure future oil supplies and transforming our economy into an "Always low wages. Always" crap fest. However did you figure it out?
GENIUS!!!
What about Diebold refusing to open source its code?
Sallyh | Email | Homepage | 08.13.05 - 4:37 pm | #
What about the price of tin in China?
So tell me, Sallyh, does the conspiracy extend back to 1988? Was President Dukakis cheated out of his rightful post?
Sally, babe, don't fucking bother.
The only rational response to a moronic brownshirt fuck is either a hearty guffaw or a long "ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz..."
Anything else is a waste of your time.
theft by con is theft nonetheless.
sometimes it takes some a while to realize they've been conned. hence the latest poll results.
Ô¿Ô, If we do go into Iran, I think it might be time for me to get my life in order and move to another country. I hate that, but I'm trying to decide what the tipping point will be for me and my family.
GENIUS!!!
it's stunning how threatening we are with our overwhelming grasp of power.
Wait, is this Robert the same troll we had here last summer posting under his name and his "friend" Trevor's name? Said he was a campus cop working his way through Univ of Arizona and couldn't go to war because it would upset his mom and sister? Same troll who said they shouldn't show "icky" war pics? Same troll who came here and played very sincere while laughing at his piece of shit blog about stomping liberals? That piece of shit? The same troll I ran off with his tail between his legs? This is that troll? Robert don't make me turn you back into my bitch all over again. You're not going to like it any better the second time.
Why were exit polls abandoned? They have been shown to be historically very accurate.
Riiiiight. And you choose to believe that a massive conspiracy, somehow, cheated you out of the White House not only in 2000, but in 2004.
When 118 men control most of the nations fortune 500 companies, we can certainly agree that they have the power to do almost anything they want... Including influenceing the voting results.
Be nice, Robert, or we'll raise your taxes, and that's worse than death, after all.
"Now thinking about the situation in Iraq: All in all, do you think the United States is making progress or losing ground in its efforts to establish security and democracy in Iraq?"
Making progress: 40%
Losing ground: 50%
Not sure: 10%
Thers
Change that to world. In the past 15 yrs. there have been no Democracies modeled on the U. S., they have all adopted parlaments(sp).
I guess all the elections you lost since 1994 were stolen, too.
Nope, the Democratic Party was full of hubris and out of touch and rightfully lost the majority in the mid-terms and thereafter.
It's just that pesky activist Supreme Court that intervened in a state matter and stopped a recount in 2000. And then the president of Diebold promising to deliver Ohio. Shit like that tends to destroy confidence in the system.
my guess is that Laura stays hopped up on Xanax and tequila all day, and is trotted out only when necessary.
Sallyh
I understand that like George she's not much of a "reader", and they probably keep knitting needles on a high shelf so she doesn't hurt herself. I suppose it's possible she could be praying for guidance all day.
He's on to our plan to take away freedom of speech from conservatives by losing the last two elections, putting a baboon in the White House, stripping us of all of our liberties, sending our future to Iraq to ensure future oil supplies and transforming our economy into an "Always low wages. Always" crap fest. However did you figure it out?
It's all Clinton's fault. No, really.
dave--you're right. Attempting to support a position with facts is just useless with these critters, isn't it?
And how's Moon feeling?
I also hear that Warren Harding was behind a massive conspiracy to deny Cox and Roosevelt in 1920 their rightful office! A good thing the Democrats killed him in Alaska.
In 10 years there won't be a conservative or Republican in this country who will admit to having voted for Bush. They'll begin their sentences with the words, "I did not vote for Bush, but ..."
melior--she claims to be a reader.
BTW, if anyone else wants to steal my gravatar, just copy my email address into your email box. Just remember to change it back to your own when you get tired of it.
If we can get a thread full of Bat-Winged Hamburger Snatchers going, I'll try and get Dan O'Neill to take a look!
Same troll who said they shouldn't show "icky" war pics?
Robbie's quick enough to trumpet the nobility of this war, but he's got too weak a stomach to look at the consequences.
Of course, the folks who don't want us to look at the "icky" war pictures seem to be the ones who'll post pictures of people falling out of the Towers on their webpages...
Same troll who said they shouldn't show "icky" war pics?
Robbie's quick enough to trumpet the nobility of this war, but he's got too weak a stomach to look at the consequences.
Of course, the folks who don't want us to look at the "icky" war pictures seem to be the ones who'll post pictures of people falling out of the Towers on their webpages...
I understand that like George she's not much of a "reader", and they probably keep knitting needles on a high shelf so she doesn't hurt herself. I suppose it's possible she could be praying for guidance all day.
Could just be they keep LaruaBot hooked up to the recharger and unplug her when they need her.
That, or she'd just shitfaced from dawn to dusk.
Robert don't make me turn you back into my bitch all over again. You're not going to like it any better the second time.
Hecate | Email | 08.13.05 - 4:40 pm | #
No offense, Hecate, but you couldn't even whip cream into a tasty pie topping. I'm about as terrified of the prospect as I am of a Kucinich Presidency.
All other things being equal, taking a lesson in mathematics is as good as playing a video game.
... how's Moon feeling?
Just peachy! Vet gave her some antibiotics and her congestion seemed to start clearing immediately.
However, she's got a real bad tartar problem with her back teeth. The vet thinks she might be older than we were led to believe.
And Fiona is sleeping in my lap as we speak!
I've given numbers from three separate major polls that show a solid majority of Americans NOW do not believe the president is doing anything positive in Iraq, and do not think the candle was worth the game.
The results of the presidential election last November do not change that. Moreover, an election is not only held on one issue. And presidents leading popular wars do not win bare majorities.
MOST AMERICANS DO NOT KNOW WHY WE ARE IN IRAQ. No troll can answer the question convincingly, nor can the president.
Cindy Sheehan is clearly asking a question most Americans want answered. They hear in reply only silence, and sneers.
That is the whole of the issue before us.
Somebody please explain to me why "dying for something" makes it automatically valid and worthy?
Don't know.
Maybe Michelle Malkin can channel the German, Japanese, and Italian dead from WWII and ask them.
If your arguments were so brilliant, why did you lose the election?
The GOP read this:
The function of propaganda does not lie in the scientific training of the individual, but in calling the masses' attention to certain facts, processes, necessities, etc., whose significance is thus for the first time placed within their field of vision.
The whole art consists in doing this so skillfully that everyone will be convinced that the fact is real, the process necessary, the necessity correct, etc. But since propaganda is not and cannot be the necessity in itself, since its function, like the poster, consists in attracting the attention of the crowd, and not in educating those who are already educated or who are striving after education and knowledge, its effect for the most part must be aimed at the emotions and only to a very limited degree at the so-called intellect.
All propaganda must be popular and its intellectual level must be adjusted to the most limited intelligence among those it is addressed to. Consequently, the greater the mass it is intended to reach, the lower its purely intellectual level will have to be. But if, as in propaganda for sticking out a war, the aim is to influence a whole people, we must avoid excessive intellectual demands on our public, and too much caution cannot be exerted in this direction.
The more modest its intellectual ballast, the more exclusively it takes into consideration the emotions of the masses, the more effective it will be. And this is the best proof of the soundness or unsoundness of a propaganda campaign, and not success in pleasing a few scholars or young aesthetes.
The art of propaganda lies in understanding the emotional ideas of the great masses and finding, through a psychologically correct form, the way to the attention and thence to the heart of the broad masses. The fact that our bright boys do not understand this merely shows how mentally lazy and conceited they are.
Once we understand how necessary it is for propaganda to be adjusted to the broad mass, the following rule results:
It is a mistake to make propaganda many-sided, like scientific instruction, for instance.
The receptivity of the great masses is very limited, their intelligence is small, but their power of forgetting is enormous. In consequence of these facts, all effective propaganda must be limited to a very few points and must harp on these in sloans until the last member of the public understands what you want him to understand by your slogan. As soon as you sacrifice this slogan and try to be many-sided, the effect will piddle away, for the crowd can neither digest nor retain the material offered. In this way the result is weakened and in the end entirely cancelled out.
And you had the advantage of a $250,000,000 warchest, incumbency, and skillful use of wedge issues like gay marriage.
The fact remains: now people are waking up. Thoughtful people, that is. In contrast to apologists like yourself.
I'll play.
Ô¿Ô, If we do go into Iran, I think it might be time for me to get my life in order and move to another country. I hate that, but I'm trying to decide what the tipping point will be for me and my family.
mer
That's what I'm trying to do now. I'm downsizing and putting my things in storage saving my money in case I've got to get out fast. That's where all this is headed. I think Eben, who used to post here, has already left.
Hey Robert:
You're sister called.
She wants her vibrator back.
No offense, Hecate, but you couldn't even whip cream into a tasty pie topping. I'm about as terrified of the prospect as I am of a Kucinich Presidency.
don't temper it with "No offense." just speak the truth. you have nothing but scorn for the left.
it's okay.
No offense, Hecate, but you couldn't even whip cream into a tasty pie topping.
The witch can whip my cream any day of the week and twice on Sundays (or whenever Wiccans get together).
I'll play.
Woo-hoo!
NTodd, cutting and pasting Goebbels (or whomever) does not win you the argument.
And if people are waking up, why did Hackett lose? Tell me that again, now? He was about as anti-war and anti-Bush as they come for a soldier in Iraq. If you can't win with Hackett, you can't win, period.
I guess all the elections you lost since 1994 were stolen, too.
Robert |
Maybe Imelda Marcos could give you some thoughts on that one, if she's not out shopping for shoes.
Funny how those 4000 votes for Schmidt were only found in the last 20 minutes of the count.
No offense, Hecate, but you couldn't even whip cream into a tasty pie topping. I'm about as terrified of the prospect as I am of a Kucinich Presidency.
shorter Robbie:
"I'LLL GIVE YOU SUCH A PINCH!" (said in a Joe Besser voice)
terrified of a Kucinich Presidency
Notice he/she didn't say another Clinton Presidency. The truth hurts.
melior--she claims to be a reader.
she is a librarian. which makes it all the more distressing.
That should have been
YOUR sister called, not YOU'RE.
We regret the error.
Casey didn't have any children.
But the point is, he would have.
If his mother wasn't speaking falsely for him, and misrepresenting his opinions in death, and undermining the spread of freedom, and basically being un-American by not being a passive supporter of war and all things martial.
It's just that pesky activist Supreme Court that intervened in a state matter and stopped a recount in 2000. And then the president of Diebold promising to deliver Ohio. Shit like that tends to destroy confidence in the system.
That and open partisans running state elections. That this occurs in a democracy is intolerable.
And there is simply no question that there was an attept to suppress minority voting in Ohio.
Without even getting to Diebold, the fact that partisans run state elections and the lack of working voting machines in minority precincts is enough to destroy confidence.
Solving these problems should not be a partisan issue. The fact that it is says all you need to know about the integrity of the GOP and its wingnut sycophants.
Carrot cake out of the oven.
"I'll play."
--melior
Great. Just great. Made me laugh out loud.
melior,
I'm not worried about a Hillary Clinton presidency, either. Hell, if you want to run Hillary in 2008, I'll contribute to the campaign.
Not to tell Atrios how to run his blog but people obviously enjoy playing with trolls.
Would it be interesting to have two discussion boards?
1.) A board that requires registration where people who more or less agree could hash out their differences? Do we support Hillary if she runs? What's our position on the war?
2.) An open board where people could play with trolls.
A stolen election is not a referendum, nor is it a mandate.
It is, however, at least in my book, treason.
I have a copy of that book myself.
I honestly think that Congress should amend the treason statute to include election tampering. It's about the most traitorous thing one can do in a democracy.
And if people are waking up, why did Hackett lose? Tell me that again, now? He was about as anti-war and anti-Bush as they come for a soldier in Iraq. If you can't win with Hackett, you can't win, period.
Robert
More incisive political analysis.
Even Newt Gingrich, the father of the "Contract with America," said that election was a "wake up call" for the GOP.
"And if people are waking up, why did Hackett lose? Tell me that again, now? He was about as anti-war and anti-Bush as they come for a soldier in Iraq. If you can't win with Hackett, you can't win, period.
Robert"
The Second Congressional District that Hackett lost is intensely Republican (or was, anyway). It's not representative of the country as a whole, let alone Ohio. In Columbus, Hackett would have kicked Schmidt's ass.
That's what I'm trying to do now. I'm downsizing and putting my things in storage saving my money in case I've got to get out fast. That's where all this is headed. I think Eben, who used to post here, has already left.
There is noplace you can run to that this shit is not going to catch up to you. The world is not big enough for the rebublican party.
"No offense, Hecate, but you couldn't even whip cream into a tasty pie topping.
The witch can whip my cream any day of the week and twice on Sundays (or whenever Wiccans get together)."
NTodd
If we're actually going to circle, I may come to EschaCon. Broke or not.
what a second. another person with davetm(c)(r)'s gravvy?
"Storage" for me means the attic where I'll be at the end of this month. I'll be off-line soon for awhile except when I'm at work.
Oh, and Robert, she wants it clean this time!
Pathetic.
Speaking of asinine statements, Sheehan now demands that, "if George is not ready to send the [Bush] twins [to Iraq], he should bring our troops home immediately." Didn't Clausewitz say something similar in his chapter on war and hot-looking twins? Oh, yes, here it is: "Only if the leader is willing to send his young twin daughters to the front may a nation go to war. Otherwise he must hoist the white flag and surrender his sword."
Google is your friend.
Jack Abramoff and Ralph Reed called the folks from the Indian tribes "monkeys" and "troglodytes" behind their backs.
Can you imagine the names people like Rove and Mehlman have for people like Robert?
So tell me, Sallyh, does the conspiracy extend back to 1988? Was President Dukakis cheated out of his rightful post?
you repugs have been moving balloting places, restricting minorities, sending out false info since the early 70's. Stealing elections has been the MO for 35 yrs.
Godammit, all this time I've been missing "North by Northwest"... they're doing the crop duster scene now!
Well, he would have done. That of course just makes it sadder.
The Second Congressional District that Hackett lost is intensely Republican (or was, anyway). It's not representative of the country as a whole, let alone Ohio. In Columbus, Hackett would have kicked Schmidt's ass.
Withnail | Email | Homepage | 08.13.05 - 4:49 pm | #
And "if ifs and ands were pots and pans, we'd have Christmas every day!"
Win an election, first. Then talk. Else you're about as useless as the Greens.
Marcia--Mena and i can put you up if need be.
Or buy a Saturday day pass!
Mmmm, I love carrot cake.
Can you imagine the names people like Rove and Mehlman have for people like Robert?
I imagine it's something along the lines of "useful idiot".
If we're actually going to circle, I may come to EschaCon. Broke or not.
Then we'll circle. Won't be fun without you!
Hey, Dave, I just wanted to try it, 'cuz AOL won't let me get a gravatar!
I dig yours, too!
I honestly think that Congress should amend the treason statute to include election tampering. It's about the most traitorous thing one can do in a democracy.
Tena-Not a bad idea.
I honestly think that Congress should amend the treason statute to include election tampering. It's about the most traitorous thing one can do in a democracy.
Tena-Not a bad idea.
Didn't Clausewitz say something similar in his chapter on war and hot-looking twins? Oh, yes, here it is: "Only if the leader is willing to send his young twin daughters to the front may a nation go to war. Otherwise he must hoist the white flag and surrender his sword."
That was in the same chapter where you find, "Only those who hate the war can support the efforts of the troops. Everyone else must either be a soldier, or be granted an exception to the right to free speech by the war-haters".
And "if ifs and ands were pots and pans, we'd have Christmas every day!"
Win an election, first. Then talk. Else you're about as useless as the Greens.
Robert
And we are arguing politics with a person with this level of insight, why?
"There is noplace you can run to that this shit is not going to catch up to you. The world is not big enough for the rebublican party." --
©smalfish
Was Europe big enough for Hitler? Were the Mongols happy with an independent China? The US has the world's largest economy (for now, before the wingnuts outlaw actual science education). The US has nuclear weapons we have demonstrated we will use. This has to stop here.
"Win an election, first. Then talk. Else you're about as useless as the Greens.
Robert"
2006, baby. Ohio will show the way. The corrupt Republicans in state govt. are taking care of that. Gov. Taft is about to become the first Governor in Ohio history to be convicted while in office. Read The Toledo Blade sometime (homepage).
Sallyh
That's how I heard Laura spends her days -- reading and chain-smoking. Can't remember where I read that now.
Everyone else must either be a soldier, or be granted an exception to the right to free speech by the war-haters
are you always this dense or do you have to work at it?
I am still dumbfounded as to why that phony fucking mob sent to Florida in 2000 wasn't arrested and charged with the felony they were engaging in.
Can you even imagine the outrage if the D's did something like that? They would have been in jail in a heartbeat.
2.) An open board where people could play with trolls.
SWR
C'mon, I've seen you do it plenty of times in the past. I usually ignore them because the truth is their enemy and they will always dismiss it but some of their points need to be refuted in a public forum. There are a lot of lurkers who visit here and aren't aware of everything yet who are just 'waking up.' Far more than post.
You know, if one person, just one person does it they may think he's really sick and they won't take him. And if two people, two people do it, in harmony, they may think they're both faggots and they won't take either of them. And three people do it, three, can you imagine, three people posting using Dave's gravatar. They may think it's an organization. And can you, can you imagine fifty people a day,I said fifty people a day posting using Dave's gravatar. And friends they may thinks it's a movement.
" Well, he would have done. That of course just makes it sadder." --
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar
And why I'm crying now, I can't say.
Marcia--since we've made you an honorary left coast woman, you HAVE to come to Eschacon.
I honestly think that Congress should amend the treason statute to include election tampering. It's about the most traitorous thing one can do in a democracy.
I do, too. I harp on this issue all the time. I mentioned it to my ex-boyfriend the other night when we got together. I was very disappointed that he told me he know longer follows politics ~ so get it over it. Everyone's corrupt, he said.
Politics is what brought us together in the first place!
And we are arguing politics with a person with this level of insight, why?
Rmj, Wandering Aengus | Email | 08.13.05 - 4:52 pm | #
I'd have to say that arguing about future election results is futile in any case.
The Democrats could pick up seats in 2006. If they don't, it could be gerrymandering. It could be fraud. It could be the fact that people are rallying behind the Republicans as Iraq goes to shit the way you rally around a lost cause.
You don't base your ideas on "who wins" or on what the polls look like. you do what you think is right.
Is it right to be in Iraq? I don't think so and that's how I'll act. Sooner or later I'll make a decision about pro war Democrats. I voted for Kerry in 2004 but it hurt like hell. Will I vote for Hillary in 2008? I don't know.
Toons--I've got nothing against reading and smoking--I do both. But Laura somehow seems utterly lifeless.
Can you imagine the names people like Rove and Mehlman have for people like Robert?
I imagine it's something along the lines of "useful idiot".
Pere Ubu
Yeah. What name does "Turd Blossom" give those beneath him?
Wonder if it's printable in a family publication?
Else you're about as useless as the Greens.
Why then, are you bothering to even 'talk' to us?
I dig yours, too!
DOGGY DINER!!!
C'mon, I've seen you do it plenty of times in the past.
Of course. That's why I understand the impulse. Nothing like a good flame war with a troll when you're in a bad mood.
I like carrot cake, too, and the best thing about it is the icing.
gots to go. later, y'all!
Pere Ubu, and you might add great fuck.
Sorry I don't normally use profanity.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
NTodd |
I heart NTodd. 
...friends they may thinks it's a movement.
The Bat-Winged Hamburger Snatcher Movement!!!
I honestly think that Congress should amend the treason statute to include election tampering. It's about the most traitorous thing one can do in a democracy.
That and campaign finace. Let the individual contribute and all other monies stay in the pockets of the corporations.
No more finance jiggering.Period.
FRIENDS ROMANS COUNTRYMEN.....
Please Ignore Robert, he is a wanker!
Everyone's corrupt, he said.
Politics is what brought us together in the first place!
Vicki
What a dissapointment on a number of levels. I couldn't be involved with someone who was ignorant/appathetic about politics.
But it is painful. I may change my mind about it in the future but for now, it seems like it has to run its course, going on almost a decade now.
Go to new sheets. Read the "Not funny" link. Creepy, creepy.
Nothing like a good flame war with a troll when you're in a bad mood.
With a troll?
I see where this is going.
If you can't win with Hackett, you can't win, period.
So why are you so worried about us then? Ignore us -- and leave us alone to stew in our own impotence. Please. Be kind to us poor powerless Liberals.
If your arguments were so brilliant, why did you lose the election?
Robert | Email | 08.13.05 - 4:35 pm
yeah dude, gwb fuckin' killed in the debates!!
i'm kind of confused what this greenhorn things "arguments" had to do with who "won" the election.....
Can you imagine the names people like Rove and Mehlman have for people like Robert?
Clot?
Tool?
That and campaign finace
Agreed.
Why were exit polls abandoned? They have been shown to be historically very accurate.
Sallyh | Email | Homepage | 08.13.05 - 4:40 pm | #
sallyh - there you go again, answering your own questions!
not only historically accurate, either. anyone who has worked in market research (as i have) knows that exit polls are the most accurate polls possible. the polling sample is by definition those who have decided to participate in the event. and asking someone what they just did will give far more accurate results than asking them what they intend to do.
which is also why the networks "adjusted" the poll numbers after the fact to more closely align with the counts.
NTodd, cutting and pasting Goebbels (or whomever) does not win you the argument.
It was Hitler. Mein Kampf. And who said I was interested in winning any "argument". Unka Adolf said some smart things, and the GOP has learned well. The Dems, alas, don't do agitprop well.
And if people are waking up, why did Hackett lose?
Because he fought in a GOP-dominated district that went 70% for bush, but barely 50% for Schmidt. Keep whistling past the graveyard, you delusional, lying bastard from the depths of hell. You are dead to me now.
" " Well, he would have done. That of course just makes it sadder." --
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar
And why I'm crying now, I can't say --
I feel so stupid now. This kind of thinking hits me like a brick between the eyes. I'm actually crying like a baby now as I talk on the phone to my ex.
He said WMD were found.
I don't want a Hillary presidency in 2008. She's too much of a punching bag, and they'll spend millions trying to nail her on something inane like Whitewater again.
A bastard would be better, a cutthroat bastard Democrat. One who would indict everyone who's robbing the store as we speak.
Sallyh
Didn't mean to imply anything wrong with smoking and reading (either individually or in unison). Hell, I've been smoking for over thirty years and reading longer than that -- frequently both at the same time. I just heard that that's pretty much all Laura does. She doesn't really have much of a relationship with Chimperious Minimus. This was some article I read based on interviews with her friends, IIRC.
Does it matter who the Dems run?
They will spend billions trashing whoever the unlucky fuck is.
I guess if you're not liberal, you need a license to speak in this country.
From the same person who earlier said this:
And since you liberals AREN'T IN THE ARMY, what gives you the authority to criticize the military?
Christ, Robert. Your stupidity is breathtaking.
----
Hecate: I thought it was Abe Lincoln who said that stuff about fooling some of the people, etc. - and Barnum who said there's a sucker born every minute.
Can THEY get ANYTHING right?
So has Toby called Sheehan a 9/11
whore yet?
steve simels
I'm waiting for Robert or Cog to do it.
The trolls seems to follow the same playbook.
Cindy Sheehan told William Rivers Pitt that Casey was a virgin. Hard to have kids that way, but I guess it's been known to happen once.
Hell, I've been smoking for over thirty years and reading longer than that -- frequently both at the same time. I just heard that that's pretty much all Laura does. She doesn't really have much of a relationship with Chimperious Minimus.
According to Kitty Kelley's book, when they're on (ahem) vacation, she goes off to smoke cigarettes and read.
If I was saddled with that asshole, I'd be off smoking crack and drinking Everclear.
And if people are waking up, why did Hackett lose?
Oh, so you don't WANT people to wake up?
That's says it all.
Why did Hackett "lose"?
D-I-E-B-O-L-D.
Anyone notice the mistake in the caption?
"AP Photo: Cindy Sheehan, whose son Casey was killed in Iraq, holds a baby picture of her..."
"why did Hackett lose?"
You are, of course, clueless: even though the Americans routinely dismiss the human garbage that the libs offer up. But y'all should be very used to that by now.
Congress, the White House, the Supreme Court - the Americans don't trust the Dems anywhere near where the Dems could destroy America.
And let us not forget the Media Matter's KODE (Kiss Of Death Endorsement) - it never fails in keeping the loony left out of office. Thanks, losers
"After the meeting, (Crazy Cindy, the Marxist MediaWhore) was quoted by the newspaper in her hometown of Vacaville, Calif., as saying that the president seemed sympathetic. Subsequently, she has said that Bush treated her callously during the meeting."
Washington Post, 8-12-2005
Cheers!
"
And since you liberals AREN'T IN THE ARMY, what gives you the authority to criticize the military?"
Personally, Robert, I was drafted, sent to 'Nam '69-'70 as an infantry pointman. Extended my tour from 12 to 14 months, to prevent one guy from having to replace me, for two months. Never got hit, never killed or injured anyone or anything. Walking point will either kill you or make you fearless.
But I know first-hand what an evil, stupid and mindless waste of EVERYTHING war really is, son. If you had my experience, you'd change your arrogant and foolish tone. You have no idea, no clue. I pity you.
"sent to 'Nam '69-'70":
when written by a leftie crackpot = "I rented "Platoon" 5 times!"
(i.e. it's just another lib "kewl army-guy" wannabee)
Cheers!
I happened to be walking by an alley in Center City when I was assaulted by a hideous stench.
It turns out that a Sanitation Department was hosing out a dumpster behind an oyster house shut down for Health Code violations.
I saw them scoop up what appeared to be the corpse of a rat, mangled and decomposing, jaws still embedded in a mess of the poison shellfish that killed it.
It looked and smelled exactly like the crotch of Steve Thompson's mom, at least according to the descriptions furnished by a horde of junkies and thugs who'd been there.
So let's take that into consideration, folks. Just imagine how you would turn out if you slithered out of something like that.
Steve Thompson | 08.13.05 - 6:43 pm
His post doesn't even make sense!
Steve Thompson's inflatable doll must have sprung a leak.
He's awfully cranky.
Proves our point about the wingnuts being hateful.
the Americans don't trust the Dems anywhere near where the Dems could destroy America.
And Bush and Co. is doing SUCH a wonderful job.
See how we're LOVED all over the world.
(Thompson is an asshat)
Win an election, first. Then talk. Else you're about as useless as the Greens.
Robert | Email | 08.13.05 - 4:50 pm | #
OK, I'll talk:
Almost exactly three years ago, even his supporters were suggesting that U.S. Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wis., might have finished himself off politically with a solo vote against the Patriot Act.
Almost exactly two years ago, his critics were suggesting that Feingold had finished himself off by joining the small band of senators who voted against the congressional resolution authorizing President Bush to launch the war with Iraq.
Almost exactly a year ago, Republican operatives were gleefully suggesting that one of their three high-profile Senate candidates would finish off Feingold.
But reports of Feingold's political demise were premature.
After mounting a campaign in which he proudly proclaimed his opposition to the Patriot Act, his opposition to Bush's war-making and his determination to keep the banner of Wisconsin progressivism flying even in an increasingly conservative age, Feingold was re-elected by a comfortable margin of 55 percent to 44 percent over Republican businessman Tim Michels.
Feingold faced serious opposition. Michels was a self-financing millionaire who beat better-known GOP contenders in the Republican primary and then received strong support from the Bush White House - which targeted Feingold for defeat - and from former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who went so far as to appear in television commercials supporting Michels.
Wisconsin, BTW, is a typical Midwestern-values state (but does have a populist and independent streak to it).
The point is, run a good honest candidate and liberals win.
Kerry lost because he was a poor candidate.
I know that the by-line for this article says "Martha Mendoza".
But.....have we prematurely ruled out the possibility that this was written by your-friend-and-mine....Nedra Pickler?
Wouldn't be the first time....besides, I think I see Rod serling standing in the corner....
It was a typo. What they meant to say was:
"Bush, 59, a father of twin girls who are not in Iraq, is indirectly responsible for the death of Casey Sheehan, 1,900 other soldiers, and 100,000 Iraqi people."
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