A CINC’s #1 job is to keep his soldiers alive. If they die, you can’t accomplish the mission, and you weaken your military and put your countrymen in danger.
Obviously Poppy’s son, I forget his name at the moment, didn’t get his men killed on purpose, and except for putting them in harm's way for a lie he may well have have had no control over the circumstances that led to their deaths.
BUT.
In war, there are no excuses. You find a way to keep your soldiers alive, whatever it takes — if you’re a good CINC. Poppy's son didn’t do that. His soldiers paid the price. But he also failed the mission and let down his country.
As a CINC and a soldier, he was a failure. He was bold (maybe), but he was also incompetent.
melior |
08.13.05 - 6:40 pm | #
Just got here and was reading through previous links to see what happened in the world -- and JUST got back from reading that comment and thinking WTF. That was just batshit-crazy.
Who can tell the dif between parody trolls and actual trolls now?
(The Editors are certainly bookmarked now. Damn!)
Silleigh |
08.13.05 - 6:40 pm | #
What a pathetic waste of human DNA.
Analytical Liberal |
08.13.05 - 6:41 pm | #
I actually do think it's a parody. But i'm in the mood to bait.
Atrios |
08.13.05 - 6:41 pm | #
As a soldier, he was a failure. He was brave (maybe), but he was also incompetent.
So, really, how much exactly are we supposed to grieve over this guy? Isn’t a certain amount of disapproval in order for the guy — and by extension his mom, for making such a fuss over a person who was, in the last analysis, by definition a loser?
Oh. My. Farking. God.
There are no words for this level of obscenity.
So that means Memorial Day is a holiday devoted to losers?
flory, Business Manager |
08.13.05 - 6:41 pm | #
res, anything on the "we don't care" aspect on ABC?
Marcia Brady |
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08.13.05 - 6:45 pm | #
A soldier’s #1 job is to stay alive. If you die, you can’t accomplish the mission, and you weaken your team and put your buddies in danger.
Obviously Sheehan’s son, I forget his name at the moment, didn’t die on purpose, and he may well have have had no control over the circumstances that let to his death.
BUT.
In war, there are no excuses.
okay, now I've heard it all. I doubt this is parody, but it is totally wrong. Has this poster ever hunkered down in a bunker listening to a fellow serviceman scream after taking shrapnel from a mortar, being totally unable to to do a damn thing about it because of incoming rounds and small arms fire. Medivac unable to land for and hour? Where in the hell do these people come from. chickenhawks--the most vile word in the dictionary.
1Watt |
08.13.05 - 6:45 pm | #
So Poppy Bush was a failure, not a hero, when he got his plane shot down in WWII?
I guess Dubya must be the ultimate hero because not only did he not die, he was a good enough soldier to never get close to a battle. Nobody ever accused him of letting his mates down in battle. So by this guy's logic W should get a freaking Medal of Honor.
ineedalife |
08.13.05 - 6:45 pm | #
Here's another parody or not-parody I've discovered.
This issue is irrelevant. The word 'cunt' is actually Anglo-Saxon for the bottom of a valley. Following the norman invasions of England in 1066, the Normans decided to alienate Saxons from their culture by taking obscure Saxon words and giving them anatomical meanings.
There were, in fact, several dozen of these words. 'Cunt' is the only one that survives to this date. I fail to see what is so shocking about calling Malkin a valley floor.
If this is parody, he certainly has the tone and phrasing right.
Marcia Brady |
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08.13.05 - 6:46 pm | #
Googled him. He's being ironic. Best ironist since Neal Pollack. Wonder how he feels about teabagging?
davids |
08.13.05 - 6:47 pm | #
Marica Brady ... It actually wasn't too bad. Not much meat, but not bad. It was more about the Crawford Peace House. Reprot said that the place was in debt, with the phone getting cut off, etc. as of last week. But now that Cindy's there, they've got so many donations they paid off their mortgage. This is not sitting well with the locals, who are all for BushCo(TM) and their continued enslavement.
res ipsa loquitur |
08.13.05 - 6:47 pm | #
Ok - based on the further evidence of the 'valley floor' story, I'll agree he's prolly a parody.
And a realllly good one, too.
flory, Business Manager |
08.13.05 - 6:51 pm | #
Shaw--gotta be a parody site. The person can spell.
Sallyh |
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08.13.05 - 6:51 pm | #
It is anyway true that all "conservatives" are evil fucks who celebrate at the deaths of soldiers in their insane jihad. Especially John Cole.
Thers |
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08.13.05 - 6:52 pm | #
I actually do think it's a parody. But i'm in the mood to bait.
OT, I spend too much time here. Dreamed the other night that Thersites had been named to take over supervising Fitzgerald in the Plame investigation. ????????
Silleigh |
08.13.05 - 6:53 pm | #
"I think Merkin could take him." --
JAC
Dunno. The all-caps and gorgeous mispellings give me the giggles.
Marcia Brady |
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08.13.05 - 6:54 pm | #
As a CINC and a soldier, he was a failure. He was bold (maybe), but he was also incompetent.
melior
Now that was a brilliant parody. FAC could learn from you, melior.
Diane |
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08.13.05 - 6:54 pm | #
OT, I spend too much time here. Dreamed the other night that Thersites had been named to take over supervising Fitzgerald in the Plame investigation. ????????
Silleigh
No, no, that was on NPR....
Rmj, Wandering Aengus |
08.13.05 - 6:54 pm | #
Thersites had been named to take over supervising Fitzgerald in the Plame investigation. ????????
But you know some troll is going to show up here and defend this parody.
Hecate |
08.13.05 - 6:55 pm | #
nice, but still hasn't made me laugh as hard as the south park episode where christopher reeve is devouring fetuses.
r@d@r |
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08.13.05 - 6:55 pm | #
It is anyway true that all "conservatives" are evil fucks who celebrate at the deaths of soldiers in their insane jihad. Especially John Cole.
Thers
They also talk on their cellphones while driving.
Personal hygiene is somewhat limited as well.
flory, Business Manager |
08.13.05 - 6:55 pm | #
So Poppy Bush was a failure, not a hero, when he got his plane shot down in WWII?
yep he saw some smoke coming out of an engine & bailed, leaving the co-polit to drown.
1Watt |
08.13.05 - 6:56 pm | #
HEALTHCARE IN AMERICA....In TNR this week, Benjamin Healy reviews Uninsured in America: Life and Death in the Land of Opportunity, which provides an up close look at what healthcare is like in America for the 40 million who lack insurance:
Rotting teeth are a consistent motif among their interviewees, and with a poignancy not often found in policy books, the authors peg tooth decay as a reliable barometer of one's employability and caste status. . . . the authors present through their subjects a laundry list of ominous examples of untreated suffering, ranging from gallbladder disease to diabetes to asthma, addressed alternately by hopeful neglect and homemade cocktails of alcohol and over-the-counter pain medication — or in the harrowing case of an Idaho man with recurring bone spurs in his feet, a power sander.
An electric sander? Now that's American can-do! Is it a belt sander, disc sander, orbital sander, or what? Oh I forgot, you're a liberal, you wouldn't know.
You know, George Washington had wooden teeth, and he only founded, oh, just the greatest country ever. You didn't hear him whining. He would have been overjoyed to have an electric sander.
Posted by: Floyd Alvis Cooper on April 13, 2005 at 4:21 PM
JAC |
08.13.05 - 6:57 pm | #
Atrios,
That post has got to be a joke.
David Sieser |
08.13.05 - 6:57 pm | #
JAC--my money's on Merkin as well.
Sallyh |
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08.13.05 - 6:58 pm | #
This is as real as it gets.
Rmj, Wandering Aengus |
08.13.05 - 6:58 pm | #
I googled him, he does rather subtle, pot-stirring parodic trolling.
Now that christiansunite! site linked by Shaw, not so subtle parody.
But damn, it is getting harder and harder to tell these days...
awab |
08.13.05 - 6:58 pm | #
Uh-oh...They said the "H" word (hippies).
They're stuck in the past.
They use the same crap catch phrase to describe anyone who dares to disagree with them.
The more things change, the more right wingers stay stupid!
Terry C |
08.13.05 - 6:59 pm | #
damn, I missed the thread below about Andrea Harris, the local wingnut who put "total shithead and damn proud of it" back into Florida Cracker.
unfortunately, self-righteous sales clerks like Andrea Harris are quite common in the Sunshine State.
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari |
08.13.05 - 6:59 pm | #
there is no such thing as too much time here.
Straighten up, girl.
Dunno, Marcia. This is the SECOND dream I've had involving Thers and/or NYMary. It's like my subconscious is stalking them.
* * *
This Floyd guy should post that on a winger blog and see what happens.
Silleigh |
08.13.05 - 6:59 pm | #
My god, will you just look at all these losers?
Pink Floyd AliceCooper
Careful there, sparky.
My mommy and daddy are somewhere in that sea of white crosses.
flory, Business Manager |
08.13.05 - 7:00 pm | #
Silleigh--at least you weren't dreaming you were at a family reunion with bad cooking going on--and you could smell it.
Sallyh |
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08.13.05 - 7:00 pm | #
Marcia, Sally -
if we could get 'em in the ring together, we would indeed learn if someone could, in fact, die laughing.
Gawd, I love me some Merkin Patriot . . .
JAC |
08.13.05 - 7:00 pm | #
Silleigh, you say stalking like it's a bad thing.
Marcia Brady |
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08.13.05 - 7:01 pm | #
Well, then - can we get some damn indictments already.
I don't mind this dragging out. It'd be nice if Rove were on trial in October of '06...
Thers |
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08.13.05 - 7:01 pm | #
Are there prizes for parody blogs?
Or parody commentors?
If so, "Floyd" is almost as good as "Merikan Patriot" and Fergul Menhaden's "Christians Unit" blog is a riot.
The commentors on CU are barely literate.
Shaw Kenawe |
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08.13.05 - 7:01 pm | #
JAC--Merkin is the blog's poet laureate.
Sallyh |
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08.13.05 - 7:02 pm | #
"The more things change, the more right wingers stay stupid!" --
Terry C
They are also continuously on guard against the communist threat.
No, not kidding.
Marcia Brady |
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08.13.05 - 7:02 pm | #
That's why I hope that Cindy Sheehan doesn't get led astray by all this publicity and go too far. No one doubts her pain, sorrow, sincerity, and commitment. But I worry that if she insists on staying in Crawford, Texas to meet the president again, Camp Casey might attracts all sorts of "undesirable elements" that could damage her cause and provoke a column from Richard Cohen of the Washington Post arguing she's in danger of losing her "credibility." And I think that we would all agree that when it comes to being the conscience of journalistic liberalism inside the Beltway, no one has a nattier beard than Richard Cohen.
res ipsa loquitur |
08.13.05 - 7:02 pm | #
Dunno, Marcia. This is the SECOND dream I've had involving Thers and/or NYMary. It's like my subconscious is stalking them.
We keep wondering who's been leaving the footprints in the butter...
Thers |
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08.13.05 - 7:02 pm | #
Doesn't anyone think Tired Catchphrase guy is a funny parody commentor?
The Kenosha Kid |
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08.13.05 - 7:02 pm | #
So Poppy Bush was a failure, not a hero, when he got his plane shot down in WWII?
yep he saw some smoke coming out of an engine & bailed, leaving the co-polit to drown.
1Watt
WHy doesn't that surprise me?
I guess the co-pilot was from the lower classes and he didn't count!
Terry C |
08.13.05 - 7:03 pm | #
It's a parody and you know it.
The name's a dead giveaway.
Ted Baiamonte | 08.13.05 - 6:37 pm | #
So Marcia--you ARE coming to be a Left Coast Woman, are you not?
Sallyh,Backstage Floozy |
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08.13.05 - 7:03 pm | #
Thers, thanks for the link. I'd heard the story of the replacement before (had to have something to do with that dream), but had read zero background on the new guy. This IS cheerful.
Silleigh |
08.13.05 - 7:03 pm | #
What does it mean that when it becomes impossible to distinguish between parody and real wingnut boilerplate? Does it mean spontaneous wingnut combustion and an end to this madness, finally?
Ô¿Ô |
08.13.05 - 7:03 pm | #
Mrs. I al-J ... Tell us all about Ms. Harris. What's her story?
res ipsa loquitur |
08.13.05 - 7:03 pm | #
Eef thees "Floyd", she ees a parrrody, why does she no parrrody the weengers on their own how-joo-say "home turf" eh?
Other than the fact that they would no understand the humor, of course...
But you know some troll is going to show up here and defend this parody.
Hecate
I have no doubt that Floyd's day is made when someone comes along behind him and high-fives him.
JAC |
08.13.05 - 7:04 pm | #
Doesn't anyone think Tired Catchphrase guy is a funny parody commentor?
The Kenosha Kid
Who knows?
The trolls we get here and at AmericaBlog throw those phrases around.
They get dumber and dumber. Who can tell the parodies from the "real" ones anymore?
Terry C |
08.13.05 - 7:04 pm | #
1watt ... You in Australia?
res ipsa loquitur
no, ozarks, but been there.
1Watt |
08.13.05 - 7:04 pm | #
NTodd--what's the boy up to?
Sallyh,Backstage Floozy |
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08.13.05 - 7:05 pm | #
someone comes along behind him and high-fives him.
JAC
He might even get a reach-around.
Terry C |
08.13.05 - 7:05 pm | #
We keep wondering who's been leaving the footprints in the butter...
Probably misremembered, from Shel Silverstein, bless his soul:
There's a polar bear in our Frigidaire.
He likes it 'cuz it's cold in there.
With his seat in the meat, and his face in the fish,
And his big hairy paws in the butter dish...
Silleigh |
08.13.05 - 7:06 pm | #
Silleigh, you say stalking like it's a bad thing.
Marcia Brady
Where is that nice Master Rhoades?
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar |
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08.13.05 - 7:06 pm | #
OT, I spend too much time here. Dreamed the other night that Thersites had been named to take over supervising Fitzgerald in the Plame investigation. ????????
First of all, there is no such thing as "too much time here" when it is 98 freaking degrees outside.
Second of all, having Thersites take over that investigation doesn't sound like the worst idea I've heard lately.
res ipsa loquitur |
08.13.05 - 7:06 pm | #
"The more things change, the more right wingers stay stupid!" --
Terry C
They are also continuously on guard against the communist threat.
No, not kidding.
Marcia Brady
I know - they still call anti-war people "commies."
Where does communism enter into this war?
Terry C |
08.13.05 - 7:06 pm | #
Thersites should take over the investigation. He would get to the bottom of this whole ocelot thing.
The Kenosha Kid |
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08.13.05 - 7:07 pm | #
"I know - they still call anti-war people "commies."
no, ozarks, but been there.
Or did you mean "Land Of Oz"?
don't think so.
1Watt |
08.13.05 - 7:08 pm | #
Kenosha Kid ... Is it miserably hot on Strong Island?
res ipsa loquitur |
08.13.05 - 7:09 pm | #
Second of all, having Thersites take over that investigation doesn't sound like the worst idea I've heard lately.
I like Fitzgerald, and his new supervisor sounds good. I'll be sure to stay limber, though.
Thers |
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08.13.05 - 7:10 pm | #
I know - they still call anti-war people "commies."
Where does communism enter into this war?
Terry C
Well, Saddam was something of a commie with a nationalized oil industry and manufacturing and since we're anti-war/pro-Saddam, that makes us defacto commies.
Ô¿Ô |
08.13.05 - 7:10 pm | #
Kenosha Kid--does Eli still need to be stopped?
Sallyh,Backstage Floozy |
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08.13.05 - 7:10 pm | #
no, ozarks, but been there.
Or did you mean "Land Of Oz"?
You said something about having gin for breakfast, so I figured it was AM wherever you were.
I gotta get to the Ozarks one 'a these days.
res ipsa loquitur |
08.13.05 - 7:10 pm | #
"First of all, there is no such thing as "too much time here" when it is 98 freaking degrees outside." -- res ipsa loquitur
Yeah, who thought having the Warped Tour in mid-August on Randall's Island was a good thing? All those punks wearing black in 105 degree heat index does not sound like the wisest choice.
Marcia Brady |
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08.13.05 - 7:10 pm | #
Second of all, having Thersites take over that investigation doesn't sound like the worst idea I've heard lately.
I didn't say it was a nightmare or anything.
Silleigh |
08.13.05 - 7:10 pm | #
Marcia Brady ... Is that happening today? Holy crapola. Not-Mister went to Yankee Stadium today. He sat in the shade and said it was miserable. He came here afterward, took a shower, re-hydrated and has been asleep ever since. I think he's got a little heat exhaustion.
res ipsa loquitur |
08.13.05 - 7:12 pm | #
"Master Rhoades?" --
GWPDA
What have you heard?
Marcia Brady |
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08.13.05 - 7:12 pm | #
I think Wolcott is being a tad snide there.
res ipsa loquitur |
08.13.05 - 7:12 pm | #
res, yes, it is going on even as we speak. The cab ride over was especially toasty. My daughter just called, happy for raindrops. I told her to hydrate.
Marcia Brady |
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08.13.05 - 7:14 pm | #
It's hot on Long Island, Eli needs to be stopped, and I'm blogwhoring again
The Kenosha Kid |
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08.13.05 - 7:14 pm | #
NTodd--what's the boy up to?
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Hunting mice, which keeps him from tormenting Saff.
NTodd |
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08.13.05 - 7:14 pm | #
El Gato Negro! I've missed you! Your wisdom is always so cogent and to the point and -- well -- swoonworthy.
strawhat |
08.13.05 - 7:15 pm | #
res--Monsieur, bless his soul, took 4 teenaged girls (13) to Warped Tour 98 in Irvine. 108 F day, and one of them fell into the mosh pit. (She was fine). Said it was one of the most miserable concerts he ever experienced, despite the excellent lineup.
Sallyh,Backstage Floozy |
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08.13.05 - 7:15 pm | #
And Sallyh, Eli should always be thwarted, just on principle (and for shits and giggles).
Marcia Brady |
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08.13.05 - 7:16 pm | #
My daughter just called, happy for raindrops. I told her to hydrate.
It is all about hydration.
Your kid is over there? Wow. I haven't been out since 11 AM. I'll go out in about an hour for a bit to get Not-Mister some chow.
Did it rain? We didn't get any. Merde!
res ipsa loquitur |
08.13.05 - 7:16 pm | #
All this talk of communists is making me want to play Dr. Strangelove again, but I can't decide between it or whatever's on Scifi.
Sallyh,Backstage Floozy |
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08.13.05 - 7:16 pm | #
I agree, it's time we got to the bottom of the Ocelot invasion.
Eli should always be thwarted, just on principle (and for shits and giggles).
Wiser words were never spoken.
NTodd |
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08.13.05 - 7:17 pm | #
"that it's perfectly within the bounds of what passes for acceptable discourse in wingnuttia" - Atrios.
Damn. At least write your own material moron. Paraphrasing comments by others does not make it your own.
Cog |
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08.13.05 - 7:17 pm | #
El Gato Negro! I've missed you! Your wisdom is always so cogent and to the point and -- well -- swoonworthy.
Indeed.
(I still wanna know, however, why EGN's homepage link is that lovely, larger pic -- hosted on one Duncan Black's webspace...)
Silleigh |
08.13.05 - 7:18 pm | #
NTodd--doesn't the boy ever grow bored with hunting mice?
Sallyh,Backstage Floozy |
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08.13.05 - 7:18 pm | #
ou said something about having gin for breakfast, so I figured it was AM wherever you were.
I gotta get to the Ozarks one 'a these days.
res ipsa loquitur
I was joking this a.m.. I have a rep.for being a lush but truthfully I have beers two or three times a week & mixed drinks two or three times a year. If you visit the hill country do it in the fall or mid spring.
1Watt |
08.13.05 - 7:18 pm | #
Sallyh...I went to a show like that once. It was one of the Lollapaloozas (the one where Pearl Jam played). It was really hot and dusty. I was really unhappy and wound up taking a ride with someone I didn't know (VERY unusual for me as I am a big chicken) to get out of there, leaving the then-Not-Mister behind. When I got home I took a shower and the water coming off me was brown from all the dust. Never again.
res ipsa loquitur |
08.13.05 - 7:18 pm | #
And NTodd, Master & Commander: The Far Side of the World with Russell Crowe was a great movie, I agree. Anyways, gotta drop them all back at the video rental, swing by and check on my cat and then scoot off to work. Catch y'all there.
Still waiting for Atrios to state his position on the issues that he criticizes, mocks, and mischaracterizes daily.
Operation: Yellow Moonbat.
Getting him to actually state a position instead of constant criticism over the positions of others. Make that, copying and pasting criticisms of the positions of others.
It looks like we will have to wait awhile.
Cog |
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08.13.05 - 7:20 pm | #
Buried in the story about Bush driving right past Cindy Sheehan:
The White House also put out an accounting of all the meetings that Bush has had with families of the war dead - 900 relatives of 272 people who have died in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Only 1600 more families of Iraq war dead to go. Then he can get to the rest from the Afghanistan war. It's hard work!
melior |
08.13.05 - 7:20 pm | #
someone saw full metal jacket a few too many times
matthew |
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08.13.05 - 7:20 pm | #
res--why do you think I enlisted Monsieur in taking them and not doing it myself?
BTW, he's still traumatized from the event, but it's nothing 20 years of therapy won't cure.
Sallyh,Backstage Floozy |
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08.13.05 - 7:20 pm | #
Does anyone remember "Scoop Jackson"? It's been a year or so since I've seen a comment from him (or her). He (or she) wasn't a parody troll but was funny as hell.
Central Scrutinizer |
08.13.05 - 7:21 pm | #
Thers, thanks so much for the link about Fitzgerald's new boss. Oooh, just reading those few sentences makes me all happy inside, with visions of Karl Rove in an orange jumpsuit and handcuffs. Go get 'em Margolis & Fitzgerald, crusading prosecuting attorneys!
Margolis made his prosecutorial bones doing organized crime cases, eventually rising to Chief of the Organized Crime and Racketeering Section of the Justice Department's Criminal Division, from which position he supervised the seventeen Organized Crime Strike Forces which more or less won the war on the Mafia. Margolis has a stratospheric IQ, has been known to wear Willie Nelson t-shirts to work, is used to long investigations using somewhat edgy investigative techniques, and can't be intimidated by anybody.
strawhat |
08.13.05 - 7:21 pm | #
I vote parody OR a seriously fucked up Ayn Rand disciple.
ch2 |
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08.13.05 - 7:22 pm | #
900 relatives of 272 people who have died in Iraq and Afghanistan.
res, the Warped Tour tickets were a birthday present. She is happy, and a tough wench where music is concerned (but ask her to do laundry, and she is a sniveling baby).
My Chemical Romance will be playing, so death or taxes wouldn't keep her on this side of the Triboro.
Marcia Brady |
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08.13.05 - 7:22 pm | #
Central--I arrived past Scoop's time but have heard of him.
Sallyh,Backstage Floozy |
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08.13.05 - 7:22 pm | #
NTodd--doesn't the boy ever grow bored with hunting mice?
He'd hunt trolls like Cog, but they taste bad and have worms.
NTodd |
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08.13.05 - 7:23 pm | #
someone saw full metal jacket a few too many times
You grabasstic piece of amphibian shit, how dare you say that? I will rip off your head and SKULLFUCK YOU!!! Your ass looks like three hundred pounds of chewed bubblegum! You're so ugly you could be a modern art masterpiece!
/R. Lee Ermey voice
The Kenosha Kid |
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08.13.05 - 7:23 pm | #
And OT: I picked up a really old James Taylor album today, Flag, that I haven't been able to find since it was on vinyl.
There was this song called "Slap Leather." Some of the lyrics from this song, which was written around 1979:
Get all worked up so we can go to war
We find something worth killing for
Tie a yellow ribbon around your eyes
Big McFalafel and a side of fries
Yeah, Big McFalafel
Stormin' Norman
I just love a parade
Some things NEVER fucking change.
Silleigh |
08.13.05 - 7:23 pm | #
Backslider would say that anyone who wears a Willie Nelson T to work can't be all bad.
Sallyh,Backstage Floozy |
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08.13.05 - 7:23 pm | #
Look, dumbass, you're going to have to actually read the words on the blog, he's not going to record himself stating his opinions out loud just to make it easier for mouth breathers like you.
melior |
08.13.05 - 7:24 pm | #
dunno. I really go back and forth on whether cog or hat is the dumbest. And, then, some other troll comes along and makes them both seem like geniuses.
Atrios |
08.13.05 - 7:24 pm | #
Dr. Strangelove or Scif...Dr. Strangelove or Scifi...
Sallyh,Backstage Floozy |
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08.13.05 - 7:25 pm | #
Sallyh: Is that anything like "spending a year dead for tax purposes"?
Silleigh |
08.13.05 - 7:26 pm | #
someone saw full metal jacket a few too many times
Right now I'm finishing up Schindler's List. I watch it when I'm depressed. I already saw FMJ this week, but might watch it again because it's so damned cold. Platoon is better in many respects, but Kubrick is just the right clinical director to give us a surreal, impersonal Vietnam.
NTodd |
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08.13.05 - 7:26 pm | #
Casey Sheehan's piss-poor soldiery has undermined W's mission in Iraq. Can we court martial his corpse? He has betrayed his country, perhaps unknowingly, but still....
Draco |
08.13.05 - 7:26 pm | #
Fletcher, Vermont? Only steers and queers come from Fletcher Vermont, and you don't much look like a steer to me so that kind of narrows it down a little bit, don't it?
The Kenosha Kid |
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08.13.05 - 7:28 pm | #
You grabasstic piece of amphibian shit, how dare you say that? I will rip off your head and SKULLFUCK YOU!!! Your ass looks like three hundred pounds of chewed bubblegum! You're so ugly you could be a modern art masterpiece!
/R. Lee Ermey voice
Erm, that was disturbingly good....
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08.13.05 - 7:28 pm | #
"Eli should always be thwarted, just on principle (and for shits and giggles).
Wiser words were never spoken." --
NTodd
Am I sensing an EschaCon smack down? All that greased-up wrestling and then, at the end, maybe they'll KISS!
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08.13.05 - 7:29 pm | #
Silleigh--best ask that of Flory. She's the business manager, you know.
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08.13.05 - 7:30 pm | #
Some day, cutting-edge scratch-'n-sniff and silicon extrusion technology will produce a new generation of fake vomit and dog shit that actually smells and smears like the real thing.
Maybe these products already exist for the use of espionage and intelligence services.
And then we will have the exact same discussion of which is real and which is fake-- or has it become a distinction without a difference?
However, to try and stay in the spirit of the thing, I offer a parodic snappy comeback:
"I was just saying the same thing about Pat Tillman!"
Little Brøther |
08.13.05 - 7:30 pm | #
Did someone here last week come up with "peck out your eyes and shit in their sockets"?
I got to use that to great effect a few days ago, in reference to someone's really mean pet bird, and would like to recognize.
Silleigh |
08.13.05 - 7:30 pm | #
Pat Tillman's crime was surely worse. As I recall, he threw himself in the way of an American bullet, thus directly hampering the bullet's mission as well as getting himself killed. That must make him a two time loser.
melior |
08.13.05 - 7:33 pm | #
NTodd--I believe it was you. Or Eli.
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08.13.05 - 7:33 pm | #
dunno. I really go back and forth on whether cog or hat is the dumbest. And, then, some other troll comes along and makes them both seem like geniuses.
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They're one and the same, I think!
Terry C |
08.13.05 - 7:33 pm | #
NTodd--I agree with you that Kubrick's Full Metal Jacket is the best Vietnam war movie, and for your reasons. Kubrick had a nasty inhuman streak where he used the chess metaphor of "the lines have been played out" to describe where humans were stuck.
In 2001, he got around those lines with the reincarnation of the star-child. In Barry Lyndon, he didn't get around the lines, showing a lifetime of corruption and angling for trivial advantage and no joy.
SK was apparently a nice fellow in person, but about the bleakest artist the movies have known
Draco |
08.13.05 - 7:34 pm | #
I have a burning question and I hope someone knows the answer:
What kind of Cheetos do trolls consume? The puffy ones, the crunchy ones, or the flaming hot ones?
Sallyh,Backstage Floozy |
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08.13.05 - 7:34 pm | #
He'd hunt trolls like Cog, but they taste bad and have worms.
NTodd
And then he'd leave them on the back doorstep as presents.
And *somebody* would have to clean them up.
flory, Business Manager |
08.13.05 - 7:34 pm | #
Operation: Yellow Moonbat.
Cog still thinks "moonbat" is an insult.
That is SO last year!
Terry C |
08.13.05 - 7:35 pm | #
Gotta go shower. My love life is really cuttin' into the blog-readin' time. (Has anyone figured out how to combine the two? Suggestions may be sent to the e-mail below.)
Silleigh |
08.13.05 - 7:36 pm | #
Along the lines of Floyd Alvis Cooper's comment.
This may not be a big deal and I haven't researched it. But it bothered me.
On the crawl at Fox news they had a matter of fact thing about Cindy Sheehan including Casey had been killed in Iarq 5 days after arriving there.
Now on CNN International I had heard it was 2 weeks. I don't know which is correct.
But the thought that ran through my mind was are they trying to insinuate he was at fault for being killed as he was a new guy who didn't know anything or so green it was his own fault
Maybe that's reading something into it but they did think it important to mention the 5 days and well knowing Fox......
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08.13.05 - 7:38 pm | #
"I know - they still call anti-war people "commies."
They've got it all wrong! It's commie pinko fag junkie!
Sallyh,Backstage Floozy
That's MS. commie pinko fag junkie to these right wing assholes!!
Terry C |
08.13.05 - 7:38 pm | #
Silleigh--best ask that of Flory. She's the business manager, you know.
Sallyh,Backstage Floozy
Wait - what'd I miss?
Questions?
(and don't think I didn't notice decisions were being made in my absence.......NTodd???)
flory, Business Manager |
08.13.05 - 7:38 pm | #
Aroma: Very nice cheddar aroma, more like real cheese
melior |
08.13.05 - 7:39 pm | #
What kind of Cheetos do trolls consume? The puffy ones, the crunchy ones, or the flaming hot ones?
Sallyh,Backstage Floozy
Whichever ones Costco has on sale by the carton.
flory, Business Manager |
08.13.05 - 7:41 pm | #
"900 relatives of 272 people who have died in Iraq and Afghanistan."
All carefully hand-selected, I'm sure.
HOW can these people still support this mother fucker?
Do their loved ones mean so LITTLE to them?
Terry C |
08.13.05 - 7:42 pm | #
scout prime: no doubt you are right.
nick carraway |
08.13.05 - 7:43 pm | #
I gotta get to the Ozarks one 'a these days.
res ipsa loquitur
Anybody in the neighborhood of Salem, MO stop into the cemetary and say hello to some of my folks. Nice place.
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08.13.05 - 7:45 pm | #
why the fuck did they give the football player a medal when he got dead...should have sent a bill to the family for compromising the mission
/wingnut
Yeah! Mdals are only for live fuckups like Tenant...
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08.13.05 - 7:47 pm | #
Floyd Alvis Cooper is probably the result of a negative feedback loop, to wit: when one doesn't accept the validity of evolution, there is less stigma attached to inbreeding.
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08.13.05 - 7:48 pm | #
My love life is really cuttin' into the blog-readin' time. (Has anyone figured out how to combine the two? Suggestions may be sent to the e-mail below.)
Try the porn blogs. They do live blogging better than anybody!
(and don't think I didn't notice decisions were being made in my absence.......NTodd???)
Eli's fault: he didn't read the fine print in the contract. I was just trying to protect the integrity of the band!
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08.13.05 - 7:59 pm | #
Damn. At least write your own material moron. Paraphrasing comments by others does not make it your own.
Cog
Oh Lord, hear my plea. Destroy him! He maketh a blight on the land!
Floyd makes a very important point.
The brits have been complaining about it for months.
Force protection means your life is worth more than anyone elses, so any time you feel the least bit threatened open fire.
The US rules of engagement are part of the problem! The brits have been trying to convince US command to use minimum force, you know the rule where you engage your brain before you start shooting so you don't kill your own guys.
You see the same rules of engagement every time the news runs a video of a bunch of cops firing wildly because someone might have had a gun.
Ugly, ugly ugly.
rose |
08.13.05 - 8:28 pm | #
Parody or not...
I actually have my own personal Wingnut in my life (I'm sure we all have one in the deep corners of our extended family or in our wide and varied workplaces) who says, yes, in fact....
Those who perished in Europe in the 30's and 40's should have had the sense to get out, and yes...
Those who fell under the machete or club in Rwanda should have sought safer climates in the US long before those unfortunate few months.
And altho I haven't yet polled him on the Sheehan matter (and don't intend to) I imagine this point of view - that she should quiet down because her son should have fucking known better than to die - is well within his reach.
Most of them have some sense of how it will sound to thinking people though and they hold back, hence that feeling they have that they are somehow oppressed and can't speak their mind in this country. "Floyd" is either a jester, or someone who has that sense of self-restraint inhibited somehow, altho were a slight sense of timidity to his little observation.
If you are real, Floyd, you really shouldn't have.... Even the nuttiest among your team is going to regret that you made that statement. I've been shocked by the crassness of the Right many times, but I can't really believe anyone is going to allow something like that to become the thought of the day.
Joe Briefcase |
08.13.05 - 9:00 pm | #
I wonder what he'd say if he didn't support the troops?
Mark Mccaffery |
08.13.05 - 9:02 pm | #
I'm watching "City Confidential" about a murder in Lynchburg, VA.
Did they really have to get comments from Fat Ass Falwell?
Terry C |
08.13.05 - 9:04 pm | #
Exactly. It's Casey's fault for not learning how to dodge bullets/explosions/etc. Aren't soldiers required to watch The Matrix is basic training anymore?
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08.13.05 - 9:05 pm | #
Floyd has convinced me how wrong I have been my whole life. All those years of schooling...down the drain...
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08.13.05 - 9:28 pm | #
What? Trolls don't shop at Costco, that's the non-evil store.
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08.13.05 - 9:34 pm | #
if I was the left-wing equivalent of Michelle Maglalangadingdong, I would lift Floyd’s comment, post it on my blog, and hold it up as an example of how all right-wingers are traitors who hate our troops, freedom, and America, in about that order.
Thank goodness I’m not anything like her.
renato |
08.13.05 - 9:48 pm | #
ONE OF THE COMMENTS FURTHER DOWN IS PERFECT - Golfing anyone?
Porco Rosso Says:
August 14th, 2005 at 4:10 am
Is Social Darwinism compatible with intelligent anything?
Goodness me. Casey Sheehan’s copter is struck by another copter and its his fault for dying.
What Floyd meant to say is: A true American wouldn’t be caught dead in Iraq, they’d be golfing in St Andrews.
sara seattle |
08.13.05 - 10:23 pm | #
Maybe Floyd was just launching a trial balloon? After all, it doesn't have to poll well with the people here.
Modern politics is much like determining if the sphagetti is done: throw it against the wall and see if it sticks.
Sticks = done
Polls well = use it
And I'm not kidding!
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08.14.05 - 1:11 am | #
Please let him be a parody...please, please, please.
My own parody (which may come true, considering the way the wingnuts are rapidly unraveling)
is someone will say that Sheehan's son deliberately got himself killed so his mother could make a scene and try to embarrass our Beloved Leader. (Or maybe...Kerry and Michael Moore had a hand in it, too...)
BTW - Why haven't we heard more about George Allen of Virginia, who apparently joins the ranks of the Bush haters and said Bush should do the decent thing and meet with Mrs Sheenan? Or maybe I'm the only one who missed that.
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08.14.05 - 1:38 am | #
Parody or not, it was a definite troll. Frankly, I am surprised it has recieved the attention it has. Giving it billing here, just because it confirms the worst you believe of your oppponent is bad.
According to this rationale, all those American troops who died in the battle of Iwo Jima or in the invasion of Normandy were failures 'cause they got killed in battle.
The same holds true for the Yankee soldiers who died during the Civil War.
Or the American soldiers that died during the Revolutionary War.
Why are we honoring them on Memorial Day as people who sacrified for their country, when they are obviously such losers?
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08.14.05 - 2:26 am | #
Giving it billing here, just because it confirms the worst you believe of your oppponent is bad.
I disagree. It's only marginally more insane than a lot of what is out there by supposedly real, grown up Republicans in blogs and in the press.
LuckyDucky |
08.14.05 - 2:31 am | #
A soldier's number one job is to stay alive? Really?
Why don't they all just desert then.
superdude |
08.14.05 - 7:06 am | #
so 'Pretty Boy Floyd' is still alive.
earl in toronto |
08.14.05 - 11:06 am | #