The wingnuts need to get with the program!
Terry C |
08.13.05 - 7:31 pm | #
I suppose they will claim some evidence of Iranian involvement in this factory, tin cans, maybe.
This will prove that the Iranians are building chemical WMDs and need to be stopped with force.
Preferably before the indictments are handed up.
shawk |
08.13.05 - 7:32 pm | #
Bill Clinton was on the grassy knoll!
res ipsa loquitur |
08.13.05 - 7:32 pm | #
Well, they do live in the past. Not as far back in the past as they'd like; I think they'd prefer the 1600s to the 1930s, but they've only been able to drag America back to 1930, so far.
Hecate |
08.13.05 - 7:33 pm | #
Dude, there'll be a civil in the US before the reptile people admit they were wrong or defeated.
Dr. Obscure |
08.13.05 - 7:35 pm | #
"The spokesman said the operation was new, not dating from before the U.S.-led invasion."
Why do I doubt that this particular phrase will get much rotation on Fox?
Marcia Brady |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 7:36 pm | #
res,
sortry, I got distracted with a phone call. you were asking about Andrea Harris, the wingnut who runs Spleenville. no real story, she's simply just another wretched rightwing twenty-something obsessed with herself. She lives in Winter Park, Florida, in a crappy apartment complex, from whence she commutes to her secretarial position in Orlando.
just another idiot, really.
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari |
08.13.05 - 7:36 pm | #
Bill Clinton's penis gives him the power of time travel. Everyone knows that. That's how he was able to destroy all the Whitewater evidence.
Thers |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 7:37 pm | #
Since this exciting news about the WMDs is only on the Internets, who'll tell Judy Miller? Presumably her prisonmates are watching golf on the library TV.
P O'Neill |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 7:37 pm | #
I wonder how many of the brighter bulbs in wingnuttia will take the discovery of a plant in Iraq capable of producing unspecified chemicals as DISCOVERY OF THE WMD!!! despite the fact that it didn't exist before the war started.
Didn't a trool already dump that stinky load here earlier today?
Central Scrutinizer |
08.13.05 - 7:37 pm | #
Not only was the Clenis(TM) responsible for Ruby Ridge, it was at the controls of TWO of the 9/11 planes, vectored the Japanese Zeros in at Pearl Harbor, gave Eve the apple AND killed Elvis!
Ken |
08.13.05 - 7:37 pm | #
Thers--reminds me of the scene in 'Real Genius':
"Can you drive a six inch spike through a board with your penis?"
"Not yet."
"A girl's gotta have her standards."
Sallyh |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 7:37 pm | #
How fucked up is this? There was better control of WMD with Saddam in power and the UN monitoring chemical weapons than there is with 150,000 coalition troops on the ground.
If there is anything that sums up the incompetence and sheer wrong-headedness of the whole sorry enterprise, this is it.
blivet |
08.13.05 - 7:38 pm | #
Heh,
The insurgents, whom we created by invading their country, are manufacturing WMDs to get us out.
Now isn't that special.
Diane |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 7:38 pm | #
Not only was the Clenis(TM) responsible for Ruby Ridge, it was at the controls of TWO of the 9/11 planes, vectored the Japanese Zeros in at Pearl Harbor, gave Eve the apple AND killed Elvis!
Out of curiousity: has Clinton contacted Mrs. Sheehan? Maybe not. I expect she'd hear from Carter first.
OT:
Thers,
Bring home dinner, because I ain't cooking in this weather....
NYMary |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 7:39 pm | #
Suspected Chemical Weapons Plant Uncovered in Mosul
JUDY! "I was fucking right!!!!!!!!!!!"
bigvic |
08.13.05 - 7:39 pm | #
Freepers are sabotaging the Crawford Peace house phoneline, apparently.
Link at Homepage.
Seebach |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 7:39 pm | #
Bill Clinton built a chemical WMD plant in Iraq!
With his PENIS!
Thers
The thought of the Dreaded Fequatalist Klintoon™ swinging a sledge with his prehensile member is tickling my funnybone something fierce.
-
Fielding Mellish |
08.13.05 - 7:41 pm | #
Thers--reminds me of the scene in 'Real Genius':
That was one of those good bad movies.
res ipsa loquitur |
08.13.05 - 7:41 pm | #
"I wonder how many of the brighter bulbs in wingnuttia will take the discovery of a plant in Iraq capable of producing unspecified chemicals as DISCOVERY OF THE WMD!!! despite the fact that it didn't exist before the war started."
Wow, an actual statement of fact. A position stated about Iraq that is not copied and pasted from someone else.
I will respond. It gets even worse than this, new fortified bunkers, electrified smuggling tunnels, and sophisticated manufactured IED's that are now shaped charges capable of penetrating even M1A1 armor, all have been discovered in the last 2 years.
I am a Democrat, but I think I can speak for "wingnuttia" on this topic. It was not just the materials, and the actual weapons themselves Saddam was thought to have stockpiled, he also buried blueprints, stashed moulds, and smuggled out large-scale manufacturing items. Smuggled out by chopping them up, declaring them scrap, and then reassembling them in foreign countries.
It is not hard to imagine these being re-smuggled into Iraq, and set up again to attack coalition forces, the Iraqi security forces, or Iraqi politicians. The next vote will probably be the target date for most of these operations.
"It's all possible once you embrace the Wingnuttia Theory of Time Causation which postulates, among other things, that Bill Clinton was responsible for Ruby Ridge..."
I have no idea what you are talking about, but to say, look look, WMD facilities AFTER THE WAR = Bush lied, or the war is a failure, is laughable.
Saddam was the biggest arms purchaser in a region awash in arms sales for the better part of 3 decades. I see no outrage from Atrios over the countries that lead the charge to make money in this fashion, of which the US was responsible for less than 1% for about 5 years.
More and more evidence is uncovered daily that state sponsorship of terrorism in Iraq by Syria and Iran is on the uptick.
I was expecting a little more from Atrios in his first foray into stating his own policy in ages. But I am simply awed by his penchant for distorting facts, floating logical fallacies that would fail out of any freshman logic course, and his near complete reliance on the thoughts and criticisms of others.
Really. Time to step up to the plate and deliver. Like it or not, you are one of those most responsible for the Democrats current position. State your position on Iraq now, whether we should withdrawl now, what is your plan with Iran with regards to terrorism in Iraq, and their quest for nuclear weapons. What does Atrios plan to do about Syrian state sponsorship of terrorism. What is Atrios's position on religous fundraising and recruitment for terrorism. North Korea? More troops, less troops.
Why should we take you seriously when you cant even defend yourself because you havent stated your position in the first place.
I think Cog must be short for Cognitive Dissonance.....
NYMary |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 7:43 pm | #
cog outs himself as Peter Beinart. how sweet.
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari |
08.13.05 - 7:43 pm | #
I wonder how many of the brighter bulbs in wingnuttia will take the discovery of a plant in Iraq capable of producing unspecified chemicals as DISCOVERY OF THE WMD!!!
I think we can take it as given that Judy will be writing that story from her jail cell.
And Keller will put in on A1.
Above the fold.
flory, Business Manager |
08.13.05 - 7:44 pm | #
I am a Democrat, but
BUT: Behold the Underlying Truth
Thanks for 2004.
There you go!
Central Scrutinizer |
08.13.05 - 7:44 pm | #
I like the 'Likely targets would have been...' quote. Yes, it would have been anyone in the way of whatever this stuff might have been made into if this stuff were EVER made into a weapon.
But it wasn't, was it? so there were no 'Likely Targets'
Adam D. Sperry |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 7:44 pm | #
Sally, "You will rue the day" you brought that movie up.
trifecta |
08.13.05 - 7:44 pm | #
So, the fact that Iraq is worse than before the war reinforces the fact we're winning?
Seebach |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 7:45 pm | #
I suppose Clinton forged the Niger documents and outed Valerie Plame.
Luke |
08.13.05 - 7:45 pm | #
though, to be honest, cog sounds just like the wingnuts at his chosen url, Memri, but he's too stupid to realize it's a Mossad front.
poor cog, so much white bread, so little mayonaise.
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari |
08.13.05 - 7:45 pm | #
No chemical weapons are known to have been used so far in Iraq's insurgency.
So what. It's HARD work fightin' fer peance/freeance. Git yer own stinking wmd pile.
bigvic |
08.13.05 - 7:45 pm | #
HICA, ever-body!
In other Nashville news, Max Vague, prior tenant of my condo, committed suicide last night or early this morning, by jumping off a bridge on the Natchez Trace Parkway.
And, of course, Perry March is still in jail.
.
Jeffraham Prestonian |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 7:45 pm | #
I am a Democrat..
Ah - a timeless classic! SFW - go stand in the corner with Lester Maddox and George Wallace.
As for the lab, it's probably a bunch of Okies trying to set up meth distribution in Iraq.
-
Fielding Mellish |
08.13.05 - 7:46 pm | #
It is not hard to imagine these being re-smuggled into Iraq, and set up again to attack coalition forces, the Iraqi security forces, or Iraqi politicians.
OH.
MY.
GOD.
/head explodes
res ipsa loquitur |
08.13.05 - 7:46 pm | #
Damn, I want to ask Atrios what he thought of coverage of the war by Al Jazeera, Al Arabiya, Abu Dhabi, Arab newspapers, and online sites like Arabnews and Anews, etc.
Does he feel that any of the coverage has been loose with the facts, and geared to encourage more violence, or does he feel the coverage for the most part has been dead on.
Does he think any of the attacks, mischaracterizations and distortions he regularly floats on Eschaton have entered into the Arab media debate, and does that fact that we are currently at war with 150,000 troops in the region give him pause before making any anti-Bush, anti-military, anti-war attacks?
I know. This is too much to ask at once from someone who can night even detail where he stands, he can only copy and paste the criticism of others, and gleefully detail every setback and mistake.
Michelle Magaloongongarangadingdong spoke with the dead Hussein kids today who confirmed that this proves the WMD story.
trifecta |
08.13.05 - 7:46 pm | #
Seebach - Ah, the Nazi Youth at work, making the world safe for Commander CooCoo Bananas. Fucking goons. None of this will make the Liberal MSM, of course.
Tena |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 7:47 pm | #
Make that not instead of night.
Cog |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 7:47 pm | #
Giving me the URL to taquitos.net was a dangerous thing to do.
Sallyh |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 7:48 pm | #
Cog is immensely stupid.
Sure, the evidence that Iran is exercising influence in Iraq and that the region is awash in terrorism is PROOF of the war's smashing success!
Take your wingnut fairytales and shove them up your ass.
Thers |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 7:48 pm | #
Saddam was the biggest arms purchaser in a region awash in arms sales for the better part of 3 decades.
Nope, tiny Kuwait spent much more.
<snip>
Cog, don't take this the wrong way, because there's only way you can take it, but you're an idiot in a nation of assholes. I think you deserve some credit for that.
Smug Canadian |
08.13.05 - 7:49 pm | #
Christ, you's think Atrios was the next candidate for president with the way cog is treating Atrios.
Cog, would you kiss my ass please? I am trying to keep this civil. My ass couldn't be any worse than Rush's, anal oozing cyst and all. You pucker up for Big Pharma I am sure.
Thanks, and have fun trolling.
trifecta |
08.13.05 - 7:49 pm | #
Mrs. I,
Suddenly, you have me craving a sammitch. Thers, can you pick up a slab of lean roast beef while you're getting dinner? Thaaaaaank yeew.
bigvic |
08.13.05 - 7:49 pm | #
Thanks for 2004.
yeah, 2004 was a very very good year for MEMRI, wasn't it cog. Mossad's best year EVER!
fucking traitors like you should be strung up by your heels and pelted with rotten fruit in the public square.
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari |
08.13.05 - 7:49 pm | #
Does he think any of the attacks, mischaracterizations and distortions he regularly floats on Eschaton have entered into the Arab media debate
You've never been able to prove a word of this, wingnut.
Thers |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 7:50 pm | #
Like it or not, you are one of those most responsible for the Democrats current position.
I can't wait to meet this Duncan Black feller, he sounds so powerful!
The Kenosha Kid |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 7:50 pm | #
I never get to play over here any more before Arthur hauls out the Big Orange Ball of Obsession....
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 7:50 pm | #
"Why should we take you seriously when you cant even defend yourself because you havent stated your position in the first place."
Truth and sense require no defense.
Luke |
08.13.05 - 7:50 pm | #
oor cog, so much white bread, so little mayonaise.
I am so stealing that.
Hecate |
08.13.05 - 7:50 pm | #
I got nuthin. Ot, anyone know anything about cooking duckling? It doesn't seem to be making enough fat like all the recipes say. Hmmm. Experimmentaal.
rococco |
08.13.05 - 7:51 pm | #
Cog, tell us again about how you're a psychiatrist.
Thers |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 7:51 pm | #
Cog is immensely stupid.
Therefore we shall not type with the hapless fool.
bigvic |
08.13.05 - 7:52 pm | #
You've never been able to prove a word of this, wingnut.
Thers | Email | Homepage | 08.13.05 - 7:50 pm | #
Proof?
PROOF!?
We don't need not stinkin' proof!
With useful idiots like Cog populating our country it'll be a cold day in hell before we need proof!
wingnut |
08.13.05 - 7:52 pm | #
I think we had more chemical agents in our science building in college. Of course, most of that was probably LSD, but still...
NTodd |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 7:52 pm | #
Got to hit it with the high heat rococco. Duck is not some sissy bird. If you want the fat to render, you crank up the temperature big time. Did you sear it really well first?
trifecta |
08.13.05 - 7:52 pm | #
I get a laugh thinking of coghat and the other dysfunctional nuts pounding away (sometimes on the keyboard) while swearing righteous vengeance against the diabolical Duncan Black.
Too many Saturday morning cartoons?
-
Fielding Mellish |
08.13.05 - 7:52 pm | #
I thought the insurgency was all pumped up because of Michael Moore? It was Atrios all along? Guess I gotta go read more wingnuttia.
(swallowing gorge)
No, I don't think I will, at that.
NYMary |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 7:52 pm | #
That's right, why doesn't Atrios condemn democrats, of whom I am one, who the arab media is reporting upon enormously... whilst simultaneously the arab media ignores the actual President of the United states, and the Republican policy it follows? You know that makes sense.
Cognut |
08.13.05 - 7:52 pm | #
Okay, I am going out for a bit. If I don't come back, it means I melted.
Anyone need me to bring them back some ice cream? Flavors?
res ipsa loquitur |
08.13.05 - 7:53 pm | #
"Truth and sense require no defense."
You mean copying and pasting the truth and sense of others?
If they have beer flavored ice cream, pick me up a case.
trifecta |
08.13.05 - 7:54 pm | #
res ipsa,
raspberry sherbet for me, thanks....
NYMary |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 7:54 pm | #
I think we had more chemical agents in our science building in college. Of course, most of that was probably LSD, but still...
NTodd - Hey, at UCLA we had an accelerator!
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 7:54 pm | #
I did not know that actually asking someone to state a position on an issue they have been attacking for several years was so devisive.
A new form of debate.
Cog |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 7:54 pm | #
"If I don't come back, it means I melted." -- res ipsa loquitur
Hydrate, and for God's sake, keep to the shadows.
Marcia Brady |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 7:54 pm | #
I am going to watch tv and smoke a cigarette. NTodd is a gentleman and a scholar for going over to my blog and leaving a comment, the rest of you are doomed to bad Sci Fi Channel movies for all eternity.
The Kenosha Kid |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 7:54 pm | #
I think I can speak for "wingnuttia"...Cog
Perhaps, but not for the brighter bulbs.
tigrismus |
08.13.05 - 7:55 pm | #
Hiya Walter! How are you feeling?
NYMary |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 7:55 pm | #
WalterNeff,
How are you doing?
Hecate |
08.13.05 - 7:55 pm | #
Anyone need me to bring them back some ice cream? Flavors?
Trifecta. no, the recipe I have says to cook slowly for 2 and a half hours. Do you think we'll die if we eat it>
rococco |
08.13.05 - 7:56 pm | #
"You mean copying and pasting the truth and sense of others?"
Maybe you should try it and perhaps you would manifest some sense for a change.
Luke |
08.13.05 - 7:57 pm | #
Atrios, you nailed it. I've been on Hannity's forum and the Hive is pretty excited about this.
Steve J. |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 7:57 pm | #
Is Thers making the grocery run? Miss Thing is almost out of kitty treats and there's no cream for tomorrow morning's coffee. I'm good on olives, though. Thanks, Thers!
Hecate |
08.13.05 - 7:57 pm | #
Now we know you are being insincere. Bushbots never genuinely apologize.
It shows weakness, it's bad, bad.
trifecta |
08.13.05 - 7:57 pm | #
NTodd - Hey, at UCLA we had an accelerator!
I have one in my basement. I'm using it to research quantum mechanics so I can go back in time to fix the 2000 election results. I hope that doesn't get me thrown in Gitmo.
NTodd |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 7:58 pm | #
Could I have some whiskey sherbet?
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 7:58 pm | #
Oh dam. Whats with Scifi starting their headline movies at 6 (7 est)?
cal,
Apparently, Saddam had the weapons plants, chopeed them into millions of tiny pieces and labelled the boxes Hamdingers, put them in temporary storage in Iran or Syria, and has now shipped them back to be reassembled.
Or something.
In any case BUSH WASN'T WRONG!!!!
Oh, and Atrios rules the world. That basically sums up the thread.
NYMary |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 7:58 pm | #
Yes roco, you will die if you eat it. You will die if you don't eat it too. Pesky biology and all that.
Seriously though, the fat should render after all that cooking. Be patient. Use a cooking probe in the bird and you should be fine.
Duck is actually alot safer than chicken as a rule, because of the way they are produced.
I always like to go hot with the duck first, then slow it down in the oven, but it should work fine for you.
trifecta |
08.13.05 - 8:00 pm | #
HECATE - "Well, they do live in the past. Not as far back in the past as they'd like; I think they'd prefer the 1600s to the 1930s,"
Richard Weaver, one of the ur-wingnuts, traces our problems back to William of Occam. (no, i'm not making that up)
Steve J. |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:00 pm | #
Kos, Atrios, Media Matters, and MoveOn are not bigwigs in the Democratic party?
i got one of them in the truck and in each of the cars...
WoodyGuthries Guitar(aka... |
08.13.05 - 8:00 pm | #
My god, I thought I had seen jealous trolls, but cog is absolutely blind with envy of Atrios.
Tena |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:00 pm | #
I did not know that actually asking someone to state a position on an issue they have been attacking for several years was so devisive.
What is this devisive of which you speak?
Someone=they?
You're losing the argument.
Must rot your socks.
pie |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:00 pm | #
I always like to go hot with the duck first, then slow it down in the oven, but it should work fine for you.
I agree, because duck skin crisps much better.
NYMary |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:01 pm | #
Oh, and since we're talking about duck, would Thers mind very much making a Peking Duck run, as well? Extra green onions, please.
Hecate |
08.13.05 - 8:01 pm | #
Go back to sleep Walter, it was just a nightmare. Homsexualists are in control of Whitehouse now. Little Ricky was named Secretary of Wicker Baskets and Rove's been lovey-dovey ever since.
Smug Canadian |
08.13.05 - 8:01 pm | #
Tena, are you suggesting that Cog has Blenis(TM) envy?
trifecta |
08.13.05 - 8:01 pm | #
I did not know that actually asking someone to state a position on an issue they have been attacking for several years was so devisive.
Wait, aren't you the expert on Atrios' position? You keep posting all those heds and telling us what he thinks...
NTodd |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:02 pm | #
ichard Weaver, one of the ur-wingnuts, traces our problems back to William of Occam
Thing is almost out of kitty treats and there's no cream for tomorrow morning's coffee. I'm good on olives, though. Thanks, Thers!
I have a jar of Eye-tallian lovelies from my friend S. Italy I'd be happy to share. After all, it's all about the vodka.
bigvic |
08.13.05 - 8:04 pm | #
The trolls are terrified. They're out in full force.
Seebach |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:04 pm | #
Oh, and Thers, I've eaten but I need a little more vodka. Could you swing by here too? Appreciate it.
mer |
08.13.05 - 8:05 pm | #
SEEBACH -
Thanx for the link. I'm streaming James now & he doesn't seem to be on the air. :-(
Steve J. |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:05 pm | #
"Kos, Atrios, Media Matters, and MoveOn are not bigwigs in the Democratic party?"
So THAT's why biofuels are not getting the respect they deserve. Where are the biofuel links? Where?
And while I'm at it....
Marcia Brady |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:05 pm | #
"In war, there are no excuses. You find a way to stay alive, whatever it takes — if you’re a good soldier. Sheehan’s son didn’t do that. He paid the price. but he als failed the mission and let down his buddies.
As a soldier, he was a failure. He was brave (maybe), but he was also incompetent."
You right wingers look more evil by the second, you know.
Seebach |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:05 pm | #
mmm vodka. Anybody have pomegranite martinis? It's a yummy drink, and a greek mythology remembrance all in one glass.
trifecta |
08.13.05 - 8:06 pm | #
"So, really, how much exactly are we supposed to grieve over this guy? Isn’t a certain amount of disapproval in order for the guy — and by extension his mom, for making such a fuss over a person who was, in the last analysis, by definition a loser?
So shouldn’t Mrs. Sheenhan be showing a little more shame about the situation and maybe not wanting to get her son and his shortcoming splashed all over the media?"
Seebach |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:06 pm | #
We should all speak with drawl now.
unk |
08.13.05 - 8:06 pm | #
Kos, Atrios, Media Matters, and MoveOn are not bigwigs in the Democratic party?
No, duh. I AM! I'm like Liam Neeson in Batman Beg...oh, but I've said too much.
NTodd |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:06 pm | #
trifecta - Tena, are you suggesting that Cog has Blenis(TM) envy?
My god, I thought I had seen jealous trolls, but cog is absolutely blind with envy of Atrios.
Tena
That's why I think this jerk is also hat. He's just expanded from making stupid little comments on blogging issues to being wrong on almost everything else.
"Atrios runs a top-ten blog and I'm an obscure wingnut! Call the waahmbulance!"
-
Fielding Mellish |
08.13.05 - 8:07 pm | #
In this weather, it's advisable to keep the vodka in the freezer, though Hecate might disagree.
NYMary |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:07 pm | #
"Richard Weaver, one of the ur-wingnuts, traces our problems back to William of Occam. (no, i'm not making that up)" --
Steve J.
See, I KNEW it was the Occamites, even when I thought it was the bears, I knew it was the Occamites.
Marcia Brady |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:08 pm | #
Sorry Tena. I have been liberally drinking. I get really awfully punny in a bad way when that happens.
trifecta |
08.13.05 - 8:08 pm | #
"You're losing the argument."
There is no argument here. Only copying and pasting the criticism of others, gloating over mistakes and setbacks, the cheering of the faithful.
A debate requires a starting point. When it comes to Atrios's positions, there is no there there.
I thought a serious discussion over the major problems in Iraq would be welcome here. Guess not.
Cog |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:08 pm | #
Who the fuck is Ellen Knickmeyer?
Is Judy writing from the steel hotel?
pie |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:08 pm | #
These cretinous mutherfocking asswipe fascists...i just want to slap 'em, and slap 'em, and slap 'em til my shoulder aches and my hands swell up, and i'd still slap 'em and slap 'em and slap 'em...
btw: acording to MLK, Jr, as early as in 1967, the US is the biggest purveyor of violence in the world...
COG - "Saddam was the biggest arms purchaser in a region awash in arms sales for the better part of 3 decades."
To bad we didn't have enough troops to guard at least 200,000 tons of ordnance.
Who's idea was that, anyway?
Steve J. |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:09 pm | #
Bye Cog. We will miss the scarecrow, and the tin man, but most of all you!
trifecta |
08.13.05 - 8:09 pm | #
mmm vodka. Anybody have pomegranite martinis? It's a yummy drink, and a greek mythology remembrance all in one glass.
trifecta
I got two pomegranate trees-full coming ripe in a month, and the house across the street has two big trees that should be ready to go in a about a month and a half. Unfortunately neither gin nor vodka trees in the neighbourhood, but I do have a couple of olive trees somebody could work with...? It's all about self-sufficiency!
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:09 pm | #
"Obviously Sheehan’s son, I forget his name at the moment, didn’t die on purpose, and he may well have have had no control over the circumstances that let to his death.
BUT.
In war, there are no excuses. You find a way to stay alive, whatever it takes — if you’re a good soldier. Sheehan’s son didn’t do that. He paid the price. but he als failed the mission and let down his buddies.
As a soldier, he was a failure. He was brave (maybe), but he was also incompetent."
Cog, why do you chickenhawks hate the troops?
Seebach |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:09 pm | #
I thought a serious discussion over the major problems in Iraq would be welcome here.
A discussion over the major problems in Iraq?
You start, lovey.
What are the major problems?
pie |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:10 pm | #
When your starting point for a discussion of the major problems in Iraq is the sneaking-the-factories-out-and-back theory, you really don't have much ground to stand on.
NYMary |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:10 pm | #
and where's that Thers with my latte?
Marcia Brady |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:10 pm | #
Assrocket chimes in on this story:
Saddam's illegal weapons were one of several rationales for the war that were recited in the Congressional resolution that authorized it, and that were emphasized by President Bush in his various speeches on the subject. And chemical weapons from Saddam's regime have been found in Iraq on a number of occasions, some of which we have reported on here, although the quantities of such weapons were not large.
Illegal weapons?
Er, assrocket, try WMD, mushroom clouds...that boy has has the bar so low you would have to dig a trench to get under it. Assrocket is one of those that occasionally comes along and makes Cog/Hat look smart.
chris/tx |
08.13.05 - 8:11 pm | #
Hallelujah!
the monsoon has finally come...
it's gonna rain like a sumbitch in a coupla minutes...
dang, i thought we'd never get a break this summer...
wheeeeew!
.
WoodyGuthries Guitar(aka... |
08.13.05 - 8:11 pm | #
Fielding - I thought for quite awhile that cog=hat; now I'm not so sure.
Tena |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:11 pm | #
unk: We should all speak with drawl now.
Honestly, I never had any say in that, myself. It's just how it worked out.
.
Jeffraham Prestonian |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:11 pm | #
"Cog, this is God.
Stop playing with yourself"
reel genius |
08.13.05 - 8:11 pm | #
"As a soldier, he was a failure. He was brave (maybe), but he was also incompetent.
So, really, how much exactly are we supposed to grieve over this guy? Isn’t a certain amount of disapproval in order for the guy — and by extension his mom, for making such a fuss over a person who was, in the last analysis, by definition a loser?
So shouldn’t Mrs. Sheenhan be showing a little more shame about the situation and maybe not wanting to get her son and his shortcoming splashed all over the media?"
Cog, why does the right hate the troops? Why do you want to undermine them?
Seebach |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:12 pm | #
Now I'm listening to Longview. Best masturbation song ever.
I'll stop narrating my life now.
Marcia Brady |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:12 pm | #
I thought a serious discussion.. blah.. drool..
Hey, somebody wake me up when the "serious discussion" advances past attacking atrios for cutnpaste and hating freedom, etc. What an exciting new troll tactic. 8 years ago.
Or better yet, wake me up for bad Scifi liveblogging.
-
Fielding Mellish |
08.13.05 - 8:13 pm | #
Marcia Brady: I'll stop narrating my life now.
No fair! You have to keep goin' until the punch line!
.
Jeffraham Prestonian |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:13 pm | #
I've begged Cog for months, even reaching for a cherry to put on top, to provide even one tiny scintilla of evidence not derived from his fevered imaginings that something Atrios has written has been propagated through the Arab media and led to harm coming to our troops on the ground, an assertion he has made repeatedly. However, since he has cleverly determined me to be (like nearly everyone here) a moron and a liar, he continues to refuse this simple request.
Perhaps one of you others could get him to back up anything at all he likes to insist. Then you can move on to prying from his cold dead mind his evidence that any one vote anywhere in this country was moved from Kerry to Bush as a consequence of something posted on this blog.
Wait, did I say mind? I meant ass - whence seem to come his facts.
JeffCO |
08.13.05 - 8:14 pm | #
A debate requires a starting point. When it comes to Atrios's positions, there is no there there.
I thought a serious discussion over the major problems in Iraq would be welcome here.
The starting point is the fuckup YOU GUYS created. Now, are you ready to start telling us why we're actually in Iraq, why 1800 Americans and 128,000 Iraqis have died, why we've spent $300,000,000,000 on a war that was supposed to last weeks and pay for itself, why there are more terrorist attacks now than ever, etc? And I'd love to hear how "staying the course" will solve everything.
Then we can talk.
NTodd |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:14 pm | #
So... I'll bet you are all just dying to see me post the proof that Arab media is focusing on liberal commentary on Iraq in the US, instead of Republican destruction of Iraq right on their own doorstep, which is feeding Arab rage around the world, yes? For me to prove my own claim, instead of just doing the "concerned democrat" schtik? Any minute now... oh yes, any minute now instead of being an immature and simplistic buffoon, blaming the existance of chemical warfare labs which didn't exist until an action you opposed was taken, I'll sit down and actually be the high minded scholar I attack Atrios for not being. Any minute... positive behaviour... any minute now.
But for now, I'll just blame you all for 2004 again.
Cognut |
08.13.05 - 8:14 pm | #
Tena, cog is much chattier than hat, but that comes from a growing desperation.
pie |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:14 pm | #
Ah was behind the grassy knoll in 63' too bitches!
how the mental minutiae among the flying monkeys can attribute to Saddam Hussein the skill and conspiratorial finesse to dismantle and move huge chemical plants from Iraq into Iran (really?) or Syria, while at the same time seeming to be impervious to the possibility that a conspiracy could have brought off the (relatively simpler) task of rigging USer elections...
WoodyGuthries Guitar(aka... |
08.13.05 - 8:15 pm | #
Why does Hewlett Packard think I'm a government agency? What have they found out? Why do they want to sell me printers at a mere 40% over list price?
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:16 pm | #
Monsieur and his friend Tom have to stop at the market on my orders. So far, I've noted lean roast beef, kitty treats and cream, and a latte for Marcia...did I miss anything?
Sallyh |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:17 pm | #
I thought the insurgency was all pumped up because of Michael Moore?
If he loses weight and changes hats, do we still have to dis-respect him? I just wonder since the libural media doesn't tell me what think or do in this matter.
bigvic |
08.13.05 - 8:17 pm | #
did I miss anything?
I gain weight just reading your posts.
pie |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:18 pm | #
NYMary/Hecate:
Feelin' groovy.
I'll be undergoing heart surgery at Seattle's fabulous Swedish Hospital very soon.
WalterNeff |
08.13.05 - 8:18 pm | #
sallyh,
Do we have a cookbook? Or do you need more recipes?
NYMary |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:19 pm | #
Unfortunately neither gin nor vodka trees in the neighbourhood...
betcha goy a juniper bush somewhere nearby, though...
and everybody's got a potato somewhere...
just need a little imagination...
,
WoodyGuthries Guitar(aka... |
08.13.05 - 8:19 pm | #
I am now heading back to Randall's Island to retrieve my child and her friend from the evils of the Warped Tour.
pie--the beef is for Tena (I think), the cream and kitty treats for Hecate, and the latte for Marcia. We're just spreading the love
Sallyh |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:19 pm | #
WalterNeff,
Ouch. But I hear good things about the Swedish Bikini Nursing Team.
NYMary |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:19 pm | #
Mary--just putting the last bits together. We have a cookbook. But last minute entries will be accepted until you say no more.
Sallyh |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:20 pm | #
Jeffraham & Curly - I think that would make a good title for a movie,
WalterNeff |
08.13.05 - 8:20 pm | #
Milk for Smalfish. Got it.
Sallyh |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:20 pm | #
Ah was behind the grassy knoll in 63' too bitches!
And your prehensile penis pulled the trigger!
NTodd |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:21 pm | #
Walter Neff--there is one! Order the video today!
Sallyh |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:21 pm | #
I picture Marcia Brady sitting in her car listening to "The Little Spanish Flea," a la Homer Simpson.
Is that wrong?
NYMary |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:21 pm | #
Don't let them hurt that heart of yours, Walter.
I'll be thinking about you.
pie |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:22 pm | #
Unfortunately neither gin nor vodka trees in the neighbourhood,
I have a lovely vodka bush on the balconey -- we could maybe do a trade?
flory, Business Manager |
08.13.05 - 8:22 pm | #
Sallyh: did I miss anything?
Prob'ly not -- you're lovingly thorough in your consideration of keeping this bunch virtually-well-fed. You love us well.
But, you did remind me that I forgot to ask Soprano if I could bring anything to the video dinner tomorrow, other than her half of the money we're making, and a Curly DVD+CD combo.
.
Jeffraham Prestonian |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:22 pm | #
Walter--did I forget to remind you that you are the handsomest man in the universe?
Sallyh |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:22 pm | #
I'll be undergoing heart surgery at Seattle's fabulous Swedish Hospital very soon.
WalterNeff
bypass?
one o' dese days, i'm probably gonna need some o'dat surgery stuff...
got a weak valve in there...
gonna hafta git 'er fixed or croak, sooner or later...
i'm with ya, brother...
.
WoodyGuthries Guitar(aka... |
08.13.05 - 8:22 pm | #
It rained so hard today that my potatoes are actually partly uncovered. But the tops are dead and they were ready to pull anyway.
NYMary |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:22 pm | #
I'll be undergoing heart surgery at Seattle's fabulous Swedish Hospital very soon.
WalterNeff
Hey, WN!
Sending good wishes and best regards your way. Hope you do more than exceptionally well.
Shaw Kenawe |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:22 pm | #
NYMary--it's not wrong until marcia says it is. That means there's quite a distance to travel.
Sallyh |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:23 pm | #
betcha goy a juniper bush somewhere nearby, though...
Nah, Jewish neighborhood. There's probably a potato around tho, true. Okay, somebody bring a still and we'll get started. Call the Greeks about the olives tho - they're running that business here.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:23 pm | #
So far, I've noted lean roast beef, kitty treats and cream, and a latte for Marcia...did I miss anything?
Sallyh
Miz Sally,
Might I have a wee bit of fresh, plump tomato?
bigvic |
08.13.05 - 8:23 pm | #
I'm bad. I'll send a recipe.
pie |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:24 pm | #
bigvic,
Bring a bushel basket to EschaCon....
NYMary |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:24 pm | #
I didn't order the roast beef - someone else wanted to make a sammich.
Tena |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:24 pm | #
I'll be undergoing heart surgery at Seattle's fabulous Swedish Hospital very soon.
WalterNeff
Oh goodness. Bypass?
We'll sneak in the ice cream -- the good stuff, not the frozen milk water they feed you in hospitals.
flory, Business Manager |
08.13.05 - 8:25 pm | #
WalterNeff probably WILL get the Swedish Bikini Nursing Team, and they will never want him to go home.
Sallyh |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:25 pm | #
Sallyh: Walter Neff--there is one! Order the video today!
I think he did... but with my DVD/powerhouse a/v PC deader'n 4-o'clock, I've had to outsource my duplication. And speakin' of which, the duplicator just called -- he's on his way with the latest batch!
.
Jeffraham Prestonian |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:26 pm | #
It's all possible once you embrace the Wingnuttia Theory of Time Causation which postulates, among other things, that Bill Clinton was responsible for Ruby Ridge...
I wish that the following were not entirely true: at a family gathering, someone fortunately not related to me biologically said, with the requisite anger-bulged red wingnut face, "You want to talk about sending troops to war with no justification, huh? So how about your guy Clinton sending our soldiers into Somalia?"
I said, "Three things. First, Clinton's not my guy. Second, the President who sent our soldiers into Somalia was, in fact, George Herbert Walker Bush. Third, I am going to have to go get a fresh beer, because this one has your spittle in it, and after listening to you, I desperately need clean fresh beer."
What's even more fascinating and depressing is that you can (and will!) repeatedly hear from dittohead types the identical trope about Clinton going to war in Somalia. The fact of Clinton's having inherited that mission from his predecessor appears to have vanished _in toto_ down the memory hole.
Lou Diamond Phillips battles the aliens! La la la la la la Bomb-a!
NYMary |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:26 pm | #
Ooooh, sherbet.... Sallyh, Diane, about those chiles. I sent you a price sheet.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:28 pm | #
I said, "Three things. First, Clinton's not my guy. Second, the President who sent our soldiers into Somalia was, in fact, George Herbert Walker Bush. Third, I am going to have to go get a fresh beer, because this one has your spittle in it, and after listening to you, I desperately need clean fresh beer."
Thanks. I have a family reunion next weekend, and will memorize this speech.
NYMary |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:28 pm | #
Any minute now... don't want to be seen as a hypocrite, do I? Any minute now... mature debate... coming right up...
Cognut |
08.13.05 - 8:28 pm | #
Ever been so tired that you thought you might just have to burst out in tears?
mena |
08.13.05 - 8:28 pm | #
sallyh - are there any particular categories of food that the book is light on?
flory, Business Manager |
08.13.05 - 8:29 pm | #
Auntie--I responded
Would Arthur like some ahi and/or kalbi tonight?
Sallyh |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:29 pm | #
Dear WalterNeff,
I have to say, some days reading here, you make my day. A big hug from me.
mer |
08.13.05 - 8:29 pm | #
mena,
Constantly. Sit, cool down, Hang with us. What's up?
(Though you know there'll be a new thread any minute.... )
NYMary |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:29 pm | #
Ever been so tired that you thought you might just have to burst out in tears?
Yup. But then I discovered Prozac.
NTodd |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:29 pm | #
Lou Diamond Phillips battles the aliens! La la la la la la Bomb-a!
Fraid I'm gonna havta go all ditto head an wathc my cowboys play out in the desert.
Oh, I see I broke in on the *ordering food* thread, gauchely. And Walter Neff, please take care of your dear self. My husband was treated there after a heart attack, and they took excellent care of him. I know everyone here will be sending good vibes.
mena |
08.13.05 - 8:31 pm | #
Flory--not really. The Eschatonians are well balanced people and eaters.
Sallyh |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:31 pm | #
flory, Business Manager:
No bypass - my pipes are clean. I have constrictive pericarditis: They need to peel the pericardium off the heart: like taking an eggshell of the egg without breaking the membrane - a tricky thing. I am told that it carries more risk than bypass. However, after recovery I will apparently feel better than new.
Ever been so tired that you thought you might just have to burst out in tears?
mena?
Would a pomegranate martini help?
flory, Business Manager |
08.13.05 - 8:32 pm | #
Mena--right now I have a 19 year old sobbing from exhaustion. She has to be in Malibu in an hour and she's like, I'm so tired. (she is--full time school and almost full time work).
Sallyh |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:33 pm | #
The discovery of barrels full of liquid will be all over the newspapers, radios, and tvs. It will become the subject of "I told you so" commentary from the wingnuts all over America. And in three weeks, buried on page B38 of the New York Times, will be a two sentence story about how it turned out to be used motor oil or something similiarly unimportant.
How many times have we seen this story played out now?
I'm going to have to write a song about this some day.
www.jimcaputo.com
Jim Caputo |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:33 pm | #
"I already checked them out," he says, trying to dissolve her disapproving glare. "And I can get training in about any field I want.
"And besides, it's time for me to be the man."
Satisfied, she smiles. "OK, tell me more."
"And I couldn't help but think, through the thunder rolling and stink,
That I was just a puppet in a play.
And through the roar and smoke, this string is finally broke,
And a cannon ball blew my eyes away."
As he turned away to walk, his Ma was still in shock...
but if they are going to do Iran, it will take a draft. and they are going to do Iran.
charley |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:33 pm | #
oh, smalfish, you football people....
About five years after our marriage, Thers announced that he was going to start watching football regularly. He started with our shared alma mater, a big football school, and still mostly watches the college stuff. Every year, I throw a lout party full of fried food for whichever bowl game our school happens to be in. This year, there was a blizzard on liut party night--we were eating fried and breaded crap for days.
I should note that I consider this announcement of his to be a violation of the marriage contract. I didn't marry a football guy; I shouldn't have to live with one. It's enough to make a girl take up scrapbooking.
NYMary |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:33 pm | #
WalterNeff - get better. You're no good to us if you can't provide a safe haven in NZ...
Coming up at 5:30: "Duck You Sucker" (aka "Fistful of Dynamite") with Coburn and Steiger... one of Leone's lesser known spaghetti westerns... on Encore Western...
Chris, is the Walken thing serious or not? I was unable to tell.
Seebach |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:34 pm | #
Thanks all! (well, except Mary )
Sally, I'd love something, just too tired to know what. We hung the kids' show today. I've been at it for the last 10 hrs. is all. And been herding cats, er, teenagers, AND dealing with the "curator" from whatever is underneath HELL. Just hook me up with an IV, and I'll listen in for a bit.
mena |
08.13.05 - 8:34 pm | #
I was born at Swedish Hospital Walter. Not dain bramaged either. That has to be a good sign for you.
Seriously, good luck, and God Bless.
trifecta |
08.13.05 - 8:35 pm | #
I should note that I consider this announcement of his to be a violation of the marriage contract. I didn't marry a football guy; I shouldn't have to live with one. It's enough to make a girl take up scrapbooking.
For the record, I refuse to watch football. Only because DirecTV will never, ever show the Cleveland Browns.
NTodd |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:36 pm | #
Mena--while you're resting, here's a nice margarita and a slice of carrot cake.
Sallyh |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:36 pm | #
I know everyone here will be sending good vibes.
mena
Dear one, I have very big shoulders. Lean on me.
bigvic |
08.13.05 - 8:36 pm | #
I am the king of nurse flirting, btw.
.
WalterNeff
This surprises me not at all.
And we'll still bring you ice cream.
flory, Business Manager |
08.13.05 - 8:36 pm | #
I should note that I consider this announcement of his to be a violation of the marriage contract.
I just spoke with my NZ sister (an attorney) - with a full recovery I should still be able to make the move; but it's likely delayed for several months. The NZ plans I outlined in earlier posts remain the same.
i can bring bags of Hatch green chile...there'll be room in the truck for some, or blue-corn flour, or such stuff, pinon coffee (2.5 lb packages @ $15)
mena,
You hung a teenagers' art show? Crap. Sit here by me and have a shot of iced vodka.
How many self-portrait versions of The Scream were in it?
NYMary |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:37 pm | #
Ever been so tired that you thought you might just have to burst out in tears?
mena
Yes! A busted thyroid and thirty years worth of crappy working will do that to you. Go have a nice synthroid/pomegranate martini cocktail and a lie down. And a sabbatical!
WalterNeff - You're already the most handsome man in the universe; after you recover from this, you're going to be more handsome than God.
Tena |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:37 pm | #
Flory, I love you. Pass that pomegranate martini on over. How did you know that pomegranates were my favorite fruit?
mena |
08.13.05 - 8:38 pm | #
I wonder if they'll let me check in as WalterNeff? That would be cool.
WalterNeff |
08.13.05 - 8:38 pm | #
Nurse to Walter Neff:
"Are you sure you don't want another penis massage?"
Sallyh |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:38 pm | #
And bigvic of the Local Draft Board Contingent was wanting the roast beef sammitch.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:38 pm | #
Swedish Hospital does make you eat Lutefisk puree though during recovery. It's a bitch.
trifecta |
08.13.05 - 8:39 pm | #
God is the Elephant Man compared to me. The question is: who is the world's second most beautiful man?
WalterNeff |
08.13.05 - 8:39 pm | #
i hear big, fat raindrops hitting the swamp-cooler on the roof...clank, pock, clank, splatter...
ahhh, the good rain...
WoodyGuthries Guitar(aka... |
08.13.05 - 8:39 pm | #
I didn't marry a football guy; I shouldn't have to live with one. It's enough to make a girl take up scrapbooking.
NYMary
That sounds fair.
Or perhaps dried flower arranging. You could make sure there's a verrry large arrangement right on top of his football teevee.
In tasteful pastels.
flory, Business Manager |
08.13.05 - 8:39 pm | #
""I already checked them out," he says, trying to dissolve her disapproving glare. "And I can get training in about any field I want.
"And besides, it's time for me to be the man."
Satisfied, she smiles. "OK, tell me more."
What they don't show is the woman standing outside the bedroom door and the kid banging on the other side begging to be let out.
Mother: "You're staying in there till you're too old to enlist. I'll be DAMNED if MY baby is coming home in the box for that frat boy mother fucker in Washington! Tell him to send those two heifers of HIS!"
Terry C |
08.13.05 - 8:40 pm | #
Trifecta, I'm about to eat the duck plus potato leek soup. I'll get back to you if I don't die.
rococco |
08.13.05 - 8:40 pm | #
"Are you sure you don't want another penis massage?"
with a full recovery I should still be able to make the move
That's good. Now, if you could tell your sister to reserve me a nice hobbit hole, I'd appreciate it. I mean, when you come out of the recovery room--shit, I wouldn't want to be rude or anything.
Look for the Baltimore Ravens in the listings (duck)
I damn you to sit at Art Model's table in the deepest pits of hell.
NTodd |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:40 pm | #
The Cleveland Browns are on teevee here right now, playing the NY Giants (well, they're in a rain delay).
It's on NBC, NTodd.
res ipsa loquitur |
08.13.05 - 8:40 pm | #
Tena,
Clinton lost a ton of weight after heart surgery. And he was already good looking. Hubba hubba, Walter Neff!
NYMary |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:40 pm | #
Seriously though, if we could capture Walken, and he ran on an objectively-pro cowbell position, we could win.
Seebach |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:40 pm | #
Wanna change my catheter?
That's when they become terribly disappointed and begin to feel sorry for me.
WalterNeff |
08.13.05 - 8:40 pm | #
There's no rain delay in football!
trifecta |
08.13.05 - 8:41 pm | #
The question is: who is the world's second most beautiful man?
WalterNeff - 8:39 pm
probably me, beard and all...the dp on the last film i was in told me later that the camera (at least) loves me
WoodyGuthries Guitar(aka... |
08.13.05 - 8:41 pm | #
I didn't marry a football guy; I shouldn't have to live with one.
They are not that bad.
Ask res ipsa ...
N.M. (a/k/a "Not-Mister") |
08.13.05 - 8:42 pm | #
The Cleveland Browns are on teevee here right now, playing the NY Giants (well, they're in a rain delay).
It's on NBC, NTodd.
Well, okay, when the Giants are playing I get to see the Brownies, since I get NYC channels. 'cept now. I suspended our service until mid-September.
NTodd |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:42 pm | #
It will become the subject of "I told you so" commentary from the wingnuts all over America.
Jim Caputo
when i first heard this reported on MSNBC this morning the reporter from iraq was pretty clear that they weren't there before the war, but Alex Weck (sp?, the big boned, blonde broad) kept trying to lead him with questions, "oh my... we've finally found theme... those weren't her words but she was clearly hoping for a big revelation.
charley |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:42 pm | #
i can bring bags of Hatch green chile
Oh, yes, please. Pretty, pretty please.
My Hatch chili supplier appears to be out of business. Or at least their website is.
flory, Business Manager |
08.13.05 - 8:42 pm | #
Terry c,
That commercial drives me crazy. But I like your ending better.
NYMary |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:43 pm | #
The question is: who is the world's second most beautiful man?
Salient Paragraph aka Freep Proof aka what part of this paragraph cannot a Freepi comprehend?
"... The spokesman said the operation was new, not dating from before the U.S.-led invasion. The Bush administration used allegations that Hussein's government was manufacturing weapons of mass destruction as the main justification for the invasion. No such weapons or factories were found..."
RF |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:44 pm | #
The question is: who is the world's second most beautiful man?
Erm, NTodd?
[sucks in his gut, puffs out his chest, wipes lone tear from his eye]
NTodd |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:44 pm | #
How did you know that pomegranates were my favorite fruit?
mena
I'm the band manager. I know all.
flory, Business Manager |
08.13.05 - 8:44 pm | #
Hiya, Not-Mister! Nice to meet you after hearing so much about you!
It's just like waking up and having your spouse announce, oh, I dunno, that he wants to start collecting stamps. Or pet lemurs. Something like that.
NYMary |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:44 pm | #
Erm, NTodd?
Naaa, he's just pretty.
You're just jealous of my eyelashes.
NTodd |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:45 pm | #
[sucks in his gut, puffs out his chest, wipes lone tear from his eye]
This is troubing in that they want to spread it throughout the country. But is fun to read about them fighting each other.
res ipsa loquitur |
08.13.05 - 8:45 pm | #
Terry c,
That commercial drives me crazy. But I like your ending better.
NYMary
I think it's racist.
Terry C |
08.13.05 - 8:46 pm | #
How did you know that pomegranates were my favorite fruit?
mena
I'm the band manager. I know all.
Um, flory? These pants are chafing. What should I do?
NTodd |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:46 pm | #
The commercial, not my ending.
It's exactly what I would do!
Terry C |
08.13.05 - 8:46 pm | #
My god, I love you people. How weird is that?
mena
Not at all. May I expect to see you at Eschaton?
bigvic |
08.13.05 - 8:47 pm | #
Go ahead, Click the picture, and tell me how cute my boy is. He just turned 9 months old Thursday.
More proof that men get the good eyelashes!
He is cute.
res ipsa loquitur |
08.13.05 - 8:47 pm | #
How many self-portrait versions of The Scream were in it?
===
Too many to count!Seriously, the curator from whatever is beneath hell told us this morning that we couldn't hang one girl's very chaste and lovely plaster casting of her chest (covered by her arm), or an exquisite charcoal drawing of same because, well, you know.(And no, I don't either). Also, no shelves attached to the wall, after telling us that was OK and requiring on-the -spot redesign/reinstallation. Fun!
mena |
08.13.05 - 8:47 pm | #
Oh right, that tear is only for the sucker vote. Get outta here.
Terry C,
That's what I said the first time I saw it!!!! Targeting the sons of black single mothers is like saying, "Here, cannon fodder, fodder, fodder! I've got some nice manhood for you over here!"
Ugh. Do they realize how transparent they are?
NYMary |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:48 pm | #
The question is: who is the world's second most beautiful man?
Erm, NTodd?
How's that daily bike ride coming along there boyo?
flory, Business Manager |
08.13.05 - 8:48 pm | #
Tena,
Clinton lost a ton of weight after heart surgery. And he was already good looking. Hubba hubba, Walter Neff!
NYMary
I never thought Bill was fat.
The wingers who call him that are probably 400 lbs and have BO.
Oh, and Rush Limpdick is such a great physical specimen. Ditto Karl Rove and Scottie McClellan!
Terry C |
08.13.05 - 8:48 pm | #
Ok recipe book addition.
Trifecta's Tomato Salsa
4 lbs Beefsteak tomatoes, seeded, and cut into 1 inch dice.
2 large red onions, cut into large dice
2 habanero peppers (finely minced)
6 cloves of garlic (fineley minced)
1 lime (juice, and skin, finely minced)
2 bunches fresh cilantro (finely chopped)
Kosher salt (to taste)
Place diced tomatoes in large bowl, sprinkling liberally with salt, and refrigerate for 4 hours. Drain away all the liquid. Add remaining ingredients, reseasoning with salt. Enjoy.
trifecta |
08.13.05 - 8:48 pm | #
the last photo shoot i was on the stylist told me i looked like Christopher Walken. she had met him and told me he was very weird. she asked if i was weird. i said yes, but probably not as weird as him.
now, if i had money, fame and fortune, oh baby.
charley |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:48 pm | #
Terry C,
That's what I said the first time I saw it!!!! Targeting the sons of black single mothers is like saying, "Here, cannon fodder, fodder, fodder! I've got some nice manhood for you over here!"
Ugh. Do they realize how transparent they are?
NYMary
That's exactly what my daughter and I said.
This is the same shit they did during Viet Nam. All the minority kids got drafted and sent over there.
The more things change, the bigger mother fuckers the Repugs become!
Terry C |
08.13.05 - 8:49 pm | #
Walken is pro-campaign finance reform, pro-stem cell research, and pro-increasing troop benefits.
Which is more than you can say for probably over half of congress...
Seebach |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:50 pm | #
Bigvic - I'll be there, sharing the Party Room with Sallyh and Flory.
mena |
08.13.05 - 8:51 pm | #
How's that daily bike ride coming along there boyo?
flory, Business Manager
Oh, ice cold, ice cold!
I've met NTodd.Here's the weird thing: his face looks like he should be shorter than he is. (6' or 6'1", but he has the face of a little cute guy. Weird.)
NYMary |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:51 pm | #
"I've begged Cog for months, even reaching for a cherry to put on top, to provide even one tiny scintilla of evidence not derived from his fevered imaginings that something Atrios has written has been propagated through the Arab media and led to harm coming to our troops on the ground, an assertion he has made repeatedly." - JeffCO
Actually, you did one keyword search on Memri, misrepresented what I actually claimed, and called me a liar. I see no futhur need to discuss anything with you.
Kind of funny that people on this blog hold me to a much higher standard of factual accuracy, integrity and accountability than they do for Atrios. I wonder why that is?
This is troubing in that they want to spread it throughout the country.
Res:
My gut feeling is that people are becoming leery of this kind of one-size-fits-all solution.
The worst thing that ever happened to CA was Prop 13 and I think (hope?) people are beginning to realize that.
flory, Business Manager |
08.13.05 - 8:52 pm | #
Here's a story I heard from my NZ sister today:
She has a son at Nelson Boys College - an elite boys high school in Nelson, NZ (Ernest Rutherford, splitter of the atom, went there). My sister's son has a grandfather (on his father's side) in his late 90s who's about to croak. The grandfather has willed his coin collection to the young man. The old man began collecting coins in the twenties when he began his lifetime of work in banking. If he saw an interesting coin come into the bank he would take it, replacing it with a same value coin. I think this is illegal now - I'm not sure. Anyway, this coin collection sits in a safe deposit box in Oregon. On a recent visit, my sister had this collection catalogued by a professional. She had these documents sent to a Texas firm for appraisal. Here's the punchline:
I've met NTodd.Here's the weird thing: his face looks like he should be shorter than he is. (6' or 6'1", but he has the face of a little cute guy. Weird.)
(a verb in Hopi, btw)
.
WoodyGuthries Guitar(aka... |
08.13.05 - 8:53 pm | #
"Truth and sense require no defense."
I take it back, they are holding him to a higher standard. LMFAO!
Cog |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:53 pm | #
WalterNeff: Ya, you betcha!
Even funnier to me, today, since instead of a crappy Billy Ray Cyrus flick, one of the local Sinclair stations actually aired Fargo, instead!
.
Jeffraham Prestonian |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:54 pm | #
How's that daily bike ride coming along there boyo?
Oh, um...it's great. Yeah, GREAT!
I haven't actually biked yet. I'm saving my strength, ala Lance Armstrong, for that last big push the last 2 weeks before EschaCon. I plan to ride 7000 miles a day. Starting tomorrow. Or Monday. Tuesday, at the latest. Unless I get wicked busy, in which case I'll start Wednesday.
NTodd |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:55 pm | #
This chemical factory - Could it be what the al-kaka #2 was referring to when he made his not so veiled threats 10 or so days ago? - I actually thought he was threatening the use of a nuclear weapons, but chemicals would suit their purpose. Let's hope that are no more of these. damn!
As for wingnuts - well, it just getting tiring listening to all their fucking filthy lies - the war was built on lies - nothing honorable in lying to go to war - DSM's say the fix was in - Cheney was down at the Pentagon on a regular basis making sure that the fix was in - no wmd's no ties to 9/11 - shut up fuck off stop talking to trools and fools
Archibald Tuttle |
08.13.05 - 8:56 pm | #
Wait, am I caught up? Must be time for a new thread, then.
Eli |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:57 pm | #
WOOOOHHHHOOOOOO!!!
mon SOOOOOOOON
flash flood warnings all over the area...
it's probably rained half an inch in the last half-hour in some places.
WoodyGuthries Guitar(aka... |
08.13.05 - 8:57 pm | #
Oh, ice cold, ice cold!
NYMary:
I'm the band manager. Ruthless is just part of the job description.
flory, Business Manager |
08.13.05 - 8:57 pm | #
I almost jumped into my neighbors froggie pool.
90 at 9pm in NYC just ain't right.
HoneyBearKelly |
08.13.05 - 8:57 pm | #
The worst thing that ever happened to CA was Prop 13 and I think (hope?) people are beginning to realize that.
flory, Business Manager
==
Boy, did you ever hammer that nail right down. I can't tell you how sick I am of making that argument and then having to explain what it fucking was to people. Where the hell have they been?
mena |
08.13.05 - 8:57 pm | #
And is anyone watching Alien Siege on Sci-Fi? Have you ever seen a movie with more people shot in the head?
Eli |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:57 pm | #
Too many to count!Seriously, the curator from whatever is beneath hell told us this morning that we couldn't hang one girl's very chaste and lovely plaster casting of her chest (covered by her arm), or an exquisite charcoal drawing of same because, well, you know.(And no, I don't either). Also, no shelves attached to the wall, after telling us that was OK and requiring on-the -spot redesign/reinstallation. Fun!
Ooog! I've just accepted a position (no interview, they just called and offered me the job) of Interim Director of Outreach for an area studies program at a well-heeled Ivy-League university. I'm terrified that I'll now be dealing with prudish gallery owners and educators ("but but that statue is nekkid!") and budget nazis. Unfortunately, I needed the work.
In other news, Rosie just stood up on her own. She was distracted by a box of Cheez-its; as soon as she figured out what she was doing she fell unceremoniously.
NYMary |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:58 pm | #
OT -- Does anyone here remember there being a site where you can get GPS view by address and then hone in? I seem to remember there being a big announcement about this and even seeing links posted in comments at a few sites, but now I can't find anything of the sort. Did I dream it or what?
cs |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:58 pm | #
Wait, am I caught up? Must be time for a new thread, then
I dunno, but your just in time for Alien train wreck.
Don't I know it!
Eli |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 8:59 pm | #
Too many to count!Seriously, the curator from whatever is beneath hell told us this morning that we couldn't hang one girl's very chaste and lovely plaster casting of her chest (covered by her arm), or an exquisite charcoal drawing of same because, well, you know.
In high school, pictures of famous paintings were passed out. We were to write discriptive essays of what was in the pictures. One of the pictures was the Birth of Venus, and the teacher removed it from the stack saying "Oops... that's a nude."
Yes! A busted thyroid and thirty years worth of crappy working will do that to you. Go have a nice synthroid/pomegranate martini cocktail and a lie down. And a sabbatical!
Wellbutrin's really good too!
GWPDA
I heart you and Artie and Auntie GWPDA.
bigvic |
08.13.05 - 9:02 pm | #
Trifecta--that'd be Chez H.
Hell, we own the entire set of DVDs. Now that's commitment.
Sallyh |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:02 pm | #
So? Your saying he's a munchkin?
The tallest munchkin. The "as coroner, I must aver, I thoroughly examined her" guy.
Okay, okay, okay...so I SLOUCH! I blame Eli.
NTodd |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:02 pm | #
It's 84° here in North Seattle. Could one of you please go out and get me a Slurpee - my spouse is not home.
WalterNeff |
08.13.05 - 9:02 pm | #
"$200,000.
Yikes."
.
--WalterNeff
Ohio scandal out there, I know.
My brother started his coin collecting when he was about 9 or 10. When he was ready to enter dental school he sold it. Paid most of his way through school. This was in the early 70s.
mer |
08.13.05 - 9:02 pm | #
AHA!
The current issue of Bellowing Ark magazine has the first of several of my short stories the editor is going to be publish as a run up to the serialization of my novel.
I am jazzed.
Diane |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:02 pm | #
The worst thing that ever happened to CA was Prop 13 and I think (hope?) people are beginning to realize that.
No shit. Of course, most of the homeowner exemptions under it have gone... people die, people sell, etc etc.
Flory--I'll take a taste!
Sallyh |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:03 pm | #
In high school, pictures of famous paintings were passed out. We were to write discriptive essays of what was in the pictures. One of the pictures was the Birth of Venus, and the teacher removed it from the stack saying "Oops... that's a nude."
Funny.
I remember when my crazy French teacher showed my class Tartuffe, and warned us beforehand that there was a glitch in the tape. Right when Tartuffe was clearly about to seduce the lady of the house, she announced that the glitch was coming up, and that we all had to *leave the room* while she fast-forwarded past it.
Interim Director of Outreach for an area studies program at a well-heeled Ivy-League university
NYMary:
Might this be the well-heeled Ivy League University located in Ithaca of which I'm an alum?
If so - cool....
flory, Business Manager |
08.13.05 - 9:03 pm | #
bkny - Thank you, thank you, thank you. I thought I was nuts!
cs |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:04 pm | #
it's probably rained half an inch in the last half-hour in some places.
Damn. We need rain here badly.
res ipsa loquitur |
08.13.05 - 9:04 pm | #
Go Rosie! (I see Maggie Simpson)
Mary - get your ground rules in writing, if you can. I can't imagine an IL (or any, really)univ. being this backwards, but then, you know.
mena |
08.13.05 - 9:04 pm | #
Okay, okay, okay...so I SLOUCH! I blame Eli.
*That* one kinda makes sense, actually...
Eli |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:04 pm | #
NYMary ... Is she really excited and pleased with herself?
res ipsa loquitur |
08.13.05 - 9:04 pm | #
That is what its website used to say, but the words about Zionism have now been deleted. The original page, however, can still be found in internet archives.
The reason for Memri's air of secrecy becomes clearer when we look at the people behind it. The co-founder and president of Memri, and the registered owner of its website, is an Israeli called Yigal Carmon.
Mr - or rather, Colonel - Carmon spent 22 years in Israeli military intelligence and later served as counter-terrorism adviser to two Israeli prime ministers, Yitzhak Shamir and Yitzhak Rabin.
Retrieving another now-deleted page from the archives of Memri's website also throws up a list of its staff. Of the six people named, three - including Col Carmon - are described as having worked for Israeli intelligence.
Among the other three, one served in the Israeli army's Northern Command Ordnance Corps, one has an academic background, and the sixth is a former stand-up comedian.
Col Carmon's co-founder at Memri is Meyrav Wurmser, who is also director of the centre for Middle East policy at the Indianapolis-based Hudson Institute, which bills itself as "America's premier source of applied research on enduring policy challenges".
The ubiquitous Richard Perle, chairman of the Pentagon's defence policy board, recently joined Hudson's board of trustees.
Ms Wurmser is the author of an academic paper entitled Can Israel Survive Post-Zionism? in which she argues that leftwing Israeli intellectuals pose "more than a passing threat" to the state of Israel, undermining its soul and reducing its will for self-defence.
In addition, Ms Wurmser is a highly qualified, internationally recognised, inspiring and knowledgeable speaker on the Middle East whose presence would make any "event, radio or television show a unique one" - according to Benador Associates, a public relations company which touts her services.
Nobody, so far as I know, disputes the general accuracy of Memri's translations but there are other reasons to be concerned about its output.
The email it circulated last week about Saddam Hussein ordering people's ears to be cut off was an extract from a longer article in the pan-Arab newspaper, al-Hayat, by Adil Awadh who claimed to have first-hand knowledge of it.
It was the sort of tale about Iraqi brutality that newspapers would happily reprint without checking, especially in the current atmosphere of war fever. It may well be true, but it needs to be treated with a little circumspection.
Mr Awadh is not exactly an independent figure. He is, or at least was, a member of the Iraqi National Accord, an exiled Iraqi opposition group backed by the US - and neither al-Hayat nor Memri mentioned this.
Also, Mr Awadh's allegation first came to light some four years ago, when he had a strong personal reason for making it. According to a Washington Post report in 1998, the amputation claim formed part of his application for political asylum in the United States.
At the time, he was one of six Iraqis under arrest in the US as suspected terrorists or Iraqi intelligence agents, and he was trying to show that the Americans had made a mistake.
da trufe |
08.13.05 - 9:05 pm | #
Said this on an earlier thread, it didn't raise any ripples, so I'm repeating, 'cause when I heard it I couldn't believe it.
Has anybody else heard NPR News (or any other news org.) refer to the infamous missing 8-9 billion as having been stolen in Iraq in 2003? Y'know, like it was a bank heist?
Heard this in my car yesterday afternoon...it wasn't NPR national news, it was local headlines (L.A. public station), in a break between the top-of-the-hour NPR news and All Things Considered.
The woman newsreader was talking about leads in the Brazilian bank robbery. She ended by saying that it was the second largest recorded robbery...
...the first, she said, was (approx. quote) 'a 9-billion-dollar theft in central Iraq in 2003.'
I mean, I just don't recall Halliburton calling the police with a report they'd been robbed. LMAO...dunno about you, but I'm gonna be waiting breathlessly for the media to release the recording of the 911 call they made to Baghdad PD.
fourmorewars |
08.13.05 - 9:05 pm | #
post hoc ergo proptor hoc.
Steve |
08.13.05 - 9:06 pm | #
WalterNeff--are you going to make me head out and buy you a Slurpee???
When the war's über-managers start using euphemisms for a conflict this lethal, it's a clear sign that the battle to keep the Iraq war afloat with the American public is lost.
That battle crashed past the tipping point this month in Ohio...
res ipsa loquitur |
08.13.05 - 9:06 pm | #
I'm gonna get a job as a rainmaker.
That would be a fucking rainmaker. And the edumacation of 1Watt continues...
NTodd |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:07 pm | #
Eli--I thought all those people being shot in Alien Siege deserved it.
And this dipshit on screen playing the President deserves devourage in extremis.
Sallyh |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:08 pm | #
I am jazzed.
Diane
congratulations!!
have a pomegranate martini
on the house
flory, Business Manager |
08.13.05 - 9:08 pm | #
Hmmm...
Giants pre-season game in Cleveland called because of thunderstorms.
HoneyBearKelly |
08.13.05 - 9:08 pm | #
That would be a fucking rainmaker. And the edumacation of 1Watt continues...
I'd rather be a reigning fuckmaker.
Eli |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:08 pm | #
Hey trifecta I'm still alive. But it tasted like rack of lamb. Is that the way its supposed to taste?
rococco |
08.13.05 - 9:08 pm | #
Diane,
Congrats!
flory,
Yes! Didn't know you'd been resident in these parts! GWPDA has been, too. And Keith Olbermann. And (yuck) Ann Coulter.
Rosie, having figured out the standing thing, has dropped to her much-more-efficient knees and is tooling all over the upstairs. But I have to move downstairs for Alien Choo-choo La Bamba! What to do, what to do.....
NYMary |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:09 pm | #
Eli--this looks to be quality entertainment.
Sallyh |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:09 pm | #
Eli--I thought all those people being shot in Alien Siege deserved it.
And this dipshit on screen playing the President deserves devourage in extremis.
Not disputing that - you just don't usually see that kind of marksmanship in action movies.
I seriously doubt he could get elected, looking like that, although I'm sure he's corrupt enough.
Eli |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:10 pm | #
Might this be the well-heeled Ivy League University located in Ithaca of which I'm an alum?
cornell?
cornell's not an "Ivy" is it?
it's a public/land-grant school, iirc...research I, and all, but Ivy?
Look and be amazed. The rationalizations are sprinkled generously about like pepper on a... thing with pepper on it. Predictable.
Kezaro |
08.13.05 - 9:10 pm | #
Damn, I hate it when a flaming alien meteorite spoils my big Supertrain debut...
Eli |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:10 pm | #
Duck is supposed to taste, well like duck. It is more flavorful than chicken of course.
Did you like it though, lamb tasting and all.
trifecta |
08.13.05 - 9:10 pm | #
Isn't that Wade Boggs?
Eli |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:11 pm | #
Well, apparently the aliens eat... chest cavities. And hopefully corrupt senators.
Eli |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:16 pm | #
trifecta:
I'll run over to the U District tomorrow and get you a Dick's
WalterNeff |
08.13.05 - 9:16 pm | #
Barry Corbin looks extra crispy, too.
-
Fielding Mellish |
08.13.05 - 9:16 pm | #
OH HOLY SHIT!!!
that is a ridiculous alien.
This movie has everything- a cheesy alien, a stupid blonde, green slime, a cheesy politician, a high speed train....
And aging tv star.
A bad toupé!!!!
four legs good |
08.13.05 - 9:16 pm | #
Okay, then, I'll have a Pinot Slurpee.
WalterNeff |
08.13.05 - 9:16 pm | #
I'd rather be a reigning fuckmaker.
Better than a feigning ruckmaker. Unless you really like backpacks, but don't know how to make the, so you have to fake it.
NTodd |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:16 pm | #
Wow, Corrupt Senator is like an older, fatter, uglier Dubya.
Eli |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:17 pm | #
4Legs--I dunno. Arthur drove off in the Jeep, didn't get home till 2 a.m., and something was said about the vehicle not being parked properly...
Sallyh |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:17 pm | #
I have never had a Slurpee in my entire life - thought I oughta have one. What's a good flavor?
Slurpees are excellent.
Something red.
four legs good |
08.13.05 - 9:17 pm | #
cornell?
cornell's not an "Ivy" is it?
it's a public/land-grant school, iirc...research I, and all, but Ivy?
really?
Cornell is an interesting beast. Its part land grant - some of the colleges are part of the SUNY system - and part private.
And the tuitions vary depending on which one you attend. In my day people would start out at one of the public colleges and transfer to the private ones their senior year to get the more prestigious diploma. They finallp put a stop to that - don't think you can transfer after your sophmore year anymore.
And yes - its Ivy. Regulary beat the hated Harvard in ice hockey when I was there.
flory, Business Manager |
08.13.05 - 9:17 pm | #
4Legs--don't forget the inane dialogue!
All the elements of a great evening's entertainment.
Sallyh |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:18 pm | #
Anyone want to start a pool on how long before Corrupt Senator loses his toupee in humiliating fashion?
I'm saying 80 minutes in.
Eli |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:18 pm | #
Senior senator from texas!!
Excellent!!
I hope he gets eaten in a most horrible manner.
four legs good |
08.13.05 - 9:18 pm | #
There's a post at the Huffington Post about Cindy Sheehan, by Jodie Evans.
Anyone want to start a pool on how long before Corrupt Senator loses his toupee in humiliating fashion?
I am so fucking loving this.
four legs good |
08.13.05 - 9:19 pm | #
Do you suppose that if I were to travel to some Haloscan-powered freeper blog I would find the posters exchanging views on what's on PAX on Saturday nights?
"Way past sure.... LET'S ROLL!!!"
four legs good |
08.13.05 - 9:20 pm | #
Lou Diamond Phillips is a rebel! And I think he might possibly think he's Rambo.
Oh, excellent: "Are you sure about this?"
"Way past sure. Let's roll."
Eli |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:21 pm | #
Trifecta, it was the first time we ever tried cooking duck and it was good but the skin didn't turn brown and crispy like it should have. But the potato and leek soup kicked ass.
rococco |
08.13.05 - 9:21 pm | #
Everybody knows red is the best flavor.
mena |
08.13.05 - 9:21 pm | #
Yes, but the movie lacks mad scientist and an Igor, not to mention science babes.
stencil |
08.13.05 - 9:21 pm | #
Bad Arthur, taking the jeep like that.
Just cause a little kitty teased him.
four legs good |
08.13.05 - 9:21 pm | #
Do you suppose that if I were to travel to some Haloscan-powered freeper blog I would find the posters exchanging views on what's on PAX on Saturday nights?
.
WalterNeff
Depends on whether or not mom blocked the Playboy channel.
flory, Business Manager |
08.13.05 - 9:22 pm | #
Yes, but the movie lacks mad scientist and an Igor, not to mention science babes.
It's early yet.
Science babe may yet make an appearance.
four legs good |
08.13.05 - 9:22 pm | #
Yes, but the movie lacks mad scientist and an Igor, not to mention science babes.
It does have Amy Locane, playing the role of Hot Ex-Wife Babe.
Eli |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:22 pm | #
Make that not instead of night.
It still makes Cog a troll. And 'not' a very good one.
J Edgar |
08.13.05 - 9:23 pm | #
Duck confit is some good stuff. It's a french recipe though. Be forewarned. Give duck another chance.
trifecta |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:23 pm | #
Bad Arthur, taking the jeep like that.
Just cause a little kitty teased him.
four legs good
Just so you know - Maxx is not Auntie GWPDA's favorite furball at the moment.
flory, Business Manager |
08.13.05 - 9:23 pm | #
I know I *should* be psyched for The Brothers Grimm, what with it being Terry Gilliam and all, but the previews just don't grab me.
Eli |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:24 pm | #
Lou Diamond Phillips is a rebel! And I think he might possibly think he's Rambo.
And his ex-wife might be a version of science babe.
And maybe there'll even be badd train sex!
four legs good |
08.13.05 - 9:24 pm | #
So, it disturbs noone else that NPR is apparently running the Lewis Carroll-inspired meme that the missing 8.8 billion dollars is a result of a bank job?
Or did I miss it being mentioned a month ago or something?
fourmorewars |
08.13.05 - 9:25 pm | #
Just so you know - Maxx is not Auntie GWPDA's favorite furball at the moment.
Awww, he'll be crushed.
He actually really likes Arthur, he just thinks the hiding from thunder thing is a little beneath him.
four legs good |
08.13.05 - 9:25 pm | #
Epicenter looks pretty crappy, but it *does* have Tracy Lords, so that's gotta count for something...
Still if I have to miss one (CA), that's probably a good one to miss.
Eli |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:26 pm | #
Is that one a them new-fangled knuckle scanners?
-
Fielding Mellish |
08.13.05 - 9:26 pm | #
I have never had a Slurpee in my entire life - thought I oughta have one. What's a good flavor?
Dude, did that thing just go loofah on the engineer?
I think it did the screechy-eaty thing.
four legs good |
08.13.05 - 9:28 pm | #
I like how she's actually wearing her Miss Whatever thingy.
Excellent!!
four legs good |
08.13.05 - 9:29 pm | #
Anyone else watching "His Girl Friday"?
==
Damn. Did I miss Cary today? And Roz?
Love the Homer, btw.
mena |
08.13.05 - 9:29 pm | #
I'm sure it will be better than the original. Movie, I mean...
Was that the one with Buddy Hackett? I remember that from my youth...
I think so. Need to look it up on IMDB. I just remember the flute made out of that dude's leg bone (or whatever) and the stop-action animation...
NTodd |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:30 pm | #
4LG - what did Maxx do to Arthur?
mena |
08.13.05 - 9:30 pm | #
Ah, *that's* where I know that guy from - he was the creepy plastic surgeon on that episode of CSI where his patients were all drinking their own pee.
Eli |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:31 pm | #
4LG, DWD does Fairy tales, you know?
Rapunzel
The ancient stone wall surrounding the property of the witch, Mother Goethels, had been built in a time out of memory. It was there when the city was built and would still be there when the city is destroyed. It is a permanent mark on the land. Over time the stones had become weathered and smoothed by the harsh German winters and the frequent storms of autumn and spring. In this time, the stones had lost their color and blended together. The mortar made the wall into a seamless barrier held together by magic.
When the young couple first moved into the house next to the witch’s property, their thoughts were not of the wall and what lay beyond it. Instead, they concentrated on themselves and making their home into a good place to raise children. But, as sometimes happens, the young woman did not become pregnant. Years went by, and still their desire for children was not granted.
When the day finally came when she was with child, they were the happiest people in the country. Each day was greeted with huge smiles and even the discomfort caused by her condition seemed minor. The lady’s husband took to his new role of trying to grant his wife’s wishes very well.
One morning, however, she refused the breakfast he had prepared. He was not concerned until she had also refused lunch and supper. He called for the doctor and after examining her, he could find nothing wrong. “She will have to eat. If she doesn’t eat, the baby cannot grow. Try your best.” He advised.
That night as he watched her sleep, the tears welled in his eyes, and he prayed silently for her appetite to return. All they had hoped for and dreamed of, was in the balance. Whatever could be done, must be done.
Before he left for work the next morning, he prepared an elegant breakfast for his wife. Placing the tray on a table near the bed where she could easily reach it, he left for work. All that day he worried that she might not be eating as she should. When he returned home, his fears were rewarded. Walking up the stairs to their bedroom, he noticed that the food remained untouched. He knelt by the bed and tenderly kissed her cheek. He implored softly, “Darling, you are going to have to eat. What is the problem?”
“Nothing looks good to me. I know you are doing your best, but I simply cannot eat.”
The next day a magical aroma wafted in on a breeze through the open window. The pungent smell caused her mouth to water and her stomach rumbled loudly. Struggling from the bed, she stepped softly to the window. As she looked beyond the stone wall that told the border of their land, her eyes fell on the garden beyond the wall. Everything seemed so wonderful. There were plants she recognized. Lettuce, carrots, potatoes, but there were many plants that she did not recognize. The smell that caused her hunger to grow must be one of these, for she did not recognize its aroma. When her husband returned home, she asked him about it. Sniffing the air, he said, “I think that is rampion.”
“Rampion? What is that?”
“Rampion is a green leafy plant. You might know it as rapunzel?”
“No, I never heard of it. But, I would dearly love to eat some. It smells wonderfully.”
“Tomorrow, I will look everywhere to see if I can find some for you. I’m glad you are hungry again. It’s better for the baby.”
When he returned from work, he had purchased a large quantity of the vegetable, and immediately prepared it for his wife. When he took it to her, she frowned, and turned her face away. “What’s the matter, honey?” He asked.
“This doesn’t smell nearly as good as that does” She said pointing toward the window. “Can’t you get me some of that?”
A cold shiver found its way from the back of the man’s neck to the soles of his feet. He knew the lady next door was evil. She had a terrible reputation as a powerful witch.
DWD |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:31 pm | #
OOOOOOOOH!!!!!!
A homb!!
This movie has fucking everything.
four legs good |
08.13.05 - 9:31 pm | #
He's got a bomb!
Eli |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:31 pm | #
I think so. Need to look it up on IMDB. I just remember the flute made out of that dude's leg bone (or whatever) and the stop-action animation...
Yup. He played Hans in 'The Singing Bone' segment of The Wonderful World of the Brothers Grimm (1962).
NTodd |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:32 pm | #
Tom Sizemore is battling some giant aardvark on my SciFi right now.
THe point is they DIDN'T have them till we INCITED THEM to develop them.
Trip |
08.13.05 - 9:32 pm | #
4LG - what did Maxx do to Arthur?
He made fun of him for being afraid of thunder and lightning and got Arthur all worked up.
Then Arthur ran off with the jeep and stayed out until 2:00 am.
In all fairness, Arthur did make fun of Maxx's fur.
four legs good |
08.13.05 - 9:33 pm | #
Wait, when did Anniversary Guy suddenly turn into Action Jackson?
Eli |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:33 pm | #
He's got a bomb!
Is he trying to get rid of it like Batman did?
NTodd |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:34 pm | #
The Wonderful World of the Brothers Grimm - I saw this once in Cinerama:
WalterNeff |
08.13.05 - 9:34 pm | #
STOP THIS TRAIN NOW!!!
Oh good, the heliocopter can land on it.
four legs good |
08.13.05 - 9:34 pm | #
Wait, the kidnapper *and* the other passengers all want to stop the train? What kind of hijacker *is* this guy?
Eli |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:34 pm | #
Do you all think that Lou Diamond Phillips' wife leaving him for a woman hurt his confidence and made his career tank? Or was that just inevitable.
trifecta |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:35 pm | #
Trifecta, thanks I'll look that up. and totally OT but if Karmic Jay is around, lurking, like myself, I thought of organizing the lurkers at Eschacom or whatever its called. We could have a crying room type of thing where we could just watch everyone else talking. Because we are just shy, not aloof, just shy.
rococco |
08.13.05 - 9:36 pm | #
Oh boy, gooey engineer.
four legs good |
08.13.05 - 9:36 pm | #
Made a bad decision?
A man ahead of his time. Bush II would have promoted him.
stencil |
08.13.05 - 9:36 pm | #
He's got a bomb!
Eli
He's in a bomb!
"I made a mistake. A lot of my men and innocent people lost their lives."
Hmmm.. must have voted for Bush!
-
Fielding Mellish |
08.13.05 - 9:36 pm | #
Is he trying to get rid of it like Batman did?
Best. Scene. Ever.
"Some days, you just can't get rid of a bomb."
Although, there *was* an episode of the series where the bad guys were shooting a machine gun at them, and Batman whipped out his wee Bulletproof Glass Batshield, which he & Robin crouched behind as they advanced on the villains.
Suddenly, Batman whips the shield down, just as the shooting stops. "Holy lead jackets (or whatever), Batman! How did you know they were going to stop shooting?"
"I've been counting their bullets."
Eli |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:37 pm | #
i'd have to say coke (brown) or blue, i'm not sure what flavor that is.
red tastes very syrupy
but really the flavor doesn't matter, as you are just going for the Brain Freeze!
charley |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:37 pm | #
Then Arthur ran off with the jeep and stayed out until 2:00 am.
And given the parking job - or lack thereof - when he returned home there are questions as to his condition at 2am.
flory, Business Manager |
08.13.05 - 9:38 pm | #
rococco sez...
Hey trifecta I'm still alive. But it tasted like rack of lamb. Is that the way its supposed to taste?
rococco
....
I thought it was supposed to taste like chicken.
blue dragon |
08.13.05 - 9:39 pm | #
"Some days, you just can't get rid of a bomb."
I knew I could count on you to get the allusion. Ducks. Nuns. OMG.
Altho you're right, the "counting the bullets" line is classic. And don't get me started on Catwoman...
NTodd |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:40 pm | #
"Some days, you just can't get rid of a bomb."
I knew I could count on you to get the allusion. Ducks. Nuns. OMG.
Altho you're right, the "counting the bullets" line is classic. And don't get me started on Catwoman...
NTodd |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:40 pm | #
Bat Shark Repellant was so cool. He was so advanced.
trifecta |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:40 pm | #
Tom Sizemore is battling some giant aardvark on my SciFi right now.
==
I thought that was a monkey on his back, but whatever.
mena |
08.13.05 - 9:41 pm | #
Interim Director of Outreach for an area studies program at a well-heeled Ivy-League university
NYMary:
Might this be the well-heeled Ivy League University located in Ithaca of which I'm an alum?
If so - cool....
NYMary are we sure I wasn't that? I know I was something there. Make sure they pay you a whole bunch of money tho - they have it!
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:41 pm | #
I'm beginning to think they re-made Airplane as a train movie and threw in a rubber monster.
"Over Macho Grande? I'll never get over Macho Grande."
-
Fielding Mellish |
08.13.05 - 9:41 pm | #
Bat Shark Repellant was so cool. He was so advanced.
And PREPARED!
Eli |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:41 pm | #
Ah, Julie Newmar - she starred in more than a few teenage wanks. Oh, the memories . . .
Bat Shark Repellant was so cool. He was so advanced.
And don't forget Robin's acrobatics to hand him the can!
NTodd |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:43 pm | #
So was Joan Jett! Mmmm.. Joan Jett..
Seconded.
I can't think of Eartha anymore without thinking of that horrendous reverse-sexual-harassment movie starring Eddie Murphy.
Oh, but the commercial with Grace Jones was one of the most brilliant things I've ever seen.
No, this movie doesn't rip off Alien at all. Not one bit.
Eli |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:43 pm | #
Tom Sizemore is battling some giant aardvark on my SciFi right now.
Sizemore fell off the wagon (again) a few years back when he was making "Heat" w/Robert DeNiro. Apparently DeNiro grabbed ahold of him and said, "Listen, you are going to stop this shit or you are going to jail. Which do you want?"
Sizemore supposedly said, "Bobby, how bad is jail?"
res ipsa loquitur |
08.13.05 - 9:44 pm | #
And don't forget Robin's acrobatics to hand him the can!
Do you remember the episode (possibly involving King Tut) where they had to run the 2-minute mile, and then, shortly afterward, the 1-minute mile? And it was the same lame little jog both times?
Pure gold.
Eli |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:45 pm | #
Flory, as you might have divined - I'm at least a couple of beats farther behind than usual. See how I left it open-ended like that?
mena |
08.13.05 - 9:45 pm | #
You are casting Othello, and you are looking for a lead. Adam West and William Shatner are the only two actors to show up. Who do you cast?
trifecta |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:45 pm | #
Why are helicopter pilots in movies always, *always* complete fucking idiots???
Eli |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:46 pm | #
Eli: Oh, but the commercial with Grace Jones was one of the most brilliant things I've ever seen.
I've been trying to scrub all memories of that flick w/alcohol for several years, but some of the Eartha bits just won't come loose. Until you mentioned it, I'd forgotten Grace was even in it.
.
Jeffraham Prestonian |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:46 pm | #
Add gratuitous chopper crash to the movie that has everything.
stencil |
08.13.05 - 9:46 pm | #
I've been trying to scrub all memories of that flick w/alcohol for several years, but some of the Eartha bits just won't come loose. Until you mentioned it, I'd forgotten Grace was even in it.
Have you heard her fabulous rendition of Cha-Cha Heels?
Eli |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:47 pm | #
trifecta: You are casting Othello, and you are looking for a lead. Adam West and William Shatner are the only two actors to show up. Who do you cast?
And who knew? Jason Alexander may be the world's greatest Shatner impersonator.
.
Jeffraham Prestonian |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:49 pm | #
Adam West and William Shatner are the only two actors to show up. Who do you cast?
trifecta
Me, if I'm Dick Cheney.
-
Fielding Mellish |
08.13.05 - 9:49 pm | #
And who knew? Jason Alexander may be the world's greatest Shatner impersonator.
Henry Rollins' Shatner impression is brilliant.
Eli |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:50 pm | #
Sheets bats.
four legs good |
08.13.05 - 9:50 pm | #
I knew Alan Hale Jr. I smoked out with Alan Hale Jr. You sir, are no Alan Hale Jr (God rest his soul).
trifecta |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:54 pm | #
Shatner impressions begin and end with Kevin Pollack.
WalterNeff |
08.13.05 - 9:57 pm | #
TJ Hooker was the best(worst) Shatner ever.
Kids and drugs, what a waste.
Kids and guns, what a shame. Damn I miss that show.
trifecta |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:57 pm | #
WalterNeff: Shatner impressions begin and end with Kevin Pollack.
He's great -- but I saw a few seconds of Jason Alexander doing a scene from one of the epis... the "Risk! Is our business!" monologue. The facial expressions and gestures were chillingly good.
.
Jeffraham Prestonian |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 9:59 pm | #
I see no futhur need to discuss anything with you. Cog
Dear trolly Cog:
A. You keep promising, but your gums are still flapping, and
B. I wasn't talking to you, and
C. You have never, even once, backed up your nutty assertions to me or anyone else here. You make ridiculous claims, refuse to support them with any evidence, then later claim everyone else is either a liar or a moron for misquoting or misunderstanding you. When you are quoted back to yourself, you disappear. But regardless of who asks the question, I've never seen you answer it. Ergo, the only rational conclusion is that you are a liar and or a fool, and
D. Your consistent overuse of terms like LOL reveal your emotional and intellectual immaturity - in case you want to appear more mature more convincingly in the future.
Of course, since you're no longer discussing things with me, I look forward to your not responding.
Discovery of post-war glycerine plant is Dirty Bush's answer to Cindy Sheehan.
Sorry, Dirty Bush. Just won't do.
Oopsie. Maybe get time-of-war-clandestine-operative-outer traitor Karl to slime Mrs. Sheehan a little harder? Send the twins to Iraq on the front lines? Well, at least, make them get a frickin' JOB?
How long have they been out of school? A year? Who's paying for THEIR health insurance?
How come they can't earn their living? Are they--social parasites? Or what?
No Blood for Hubris |
Homepage |
08.13.05 - 11:17 pm | #
An inconvenient fact which the Left hates to admit (if they admit it at all):
PRIOR TO THE COALITION'S ENTRY INTO IRAQ, Saddam Hussein had killed 60,000 - 100,000 Kurds in northern Iraq USING WMD - PRIMARILY CHEMICAL WEAPONS LIKE POISON GAS.
Saddam Hussein never accounted for all of his chemical weapons thereafter. It is still unknown to this day what Saddam did with his chemical weapons.
So, for those on the Left who say, "Saddam didn't have WMD" - tell that to the 60,000+ murdered Kurds.
For background material on Saddam's "Anfal campaign," see here:
Chemical weapons supplied to Saddam by the United States- you ignorant little shithead
snorky |
08.14.05 - 2:47 am | #
nikita demosthenes -
We were playing both sides of Iran/Iraq. Remember anything about, oh, the Iran-Contra hearings?
EconAtheist aka Duc Dork |
Homepage |
08.14.05 - 3:33 am | #
Ye gods the trolls have gotten dumb.
nikita has always been fairly obtuse, but to pretend that anyone said "Saddam has never had chemical weapons!" is a whole new level of stupid.
It's a very dangerous variety of stupid. It's a high concentration of anti-intelligent, packed so densely that it has collapsed upon itself and turned into a quantum idiocy: a single point in space where stupidity is so powerful that no intelligent thought can come anywhere near it.
Seraphiel |
08.14.05 - 4:32 am | #
Meth Lab found in Iraq!
BroD |
08.14.05 - 12:58 pm | #