HULK SMASH!!!
huh!
Hah!
I REFUSE TO BITE MY TUNG ANY LONGER. I AM THROWING DOWN THE GUANOLET.
THE MERE THOUGHT OF YOU MOTHERLESS LIBERASL PEREING AROUND HITHER AND YAWN LOOKING FOR FODDER TO ATACK THE PRESIDNET WITH MAKES ME START TO WANDER ABOUT YOUR BANKRUPT AMES.
WELL HERES SOMEHTIN G TO WET YOUR APPETITE THAT JUST DONNED ON ME --- GEORGE BUSH IS A REGULAR CHURCH GOER AND IS A VERY CONTEMPTE BIBLE PUPAL. HE IS ALSO VERY CHARASTHMATIC AND HAS A DEVIL MAY CARE DEMEANER.
It's raining in Chicago
and Lord, don't my soul feel clean
THE MERE THOUGHT OF YOU MOTHERLESS LIBERASL PEREING AROUND HITHER AND YAWN LOOKING FOR FODDER TO ATACK THE PRESIDNET WITH MAKES ME START TO WANDER ABOUT YOUR BANKRUPT AMES.
I think my eyes just tripped over themselves.
Rarely is the question answered. Is they?
WHAT DID YOU SAY?!?! I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!!!
'I think my eyes just tripped over themselves.'
LOL... mine got tied in a knot. :P
Okay, I'm just beginning to watch The Fellowship of the Ring and plan to watch the entire series... Good times for such a geek as I.
My blog, meanwhile, languishes with cats and penguins...
My first attempt at The Onion style satire. - Paul
GWB's Global War on Dandelions - Aug 10, 2005
Crawford, TX -- George Bush today announced his "Global War On Dandelions" after reporters kept asking him why he needed five weeks of vacation. He replied, "This ain't no vacation at all, this is part of my straddegy [sic] to kill off all of them pesky dandelions. Ya keep killin' them, but they keep growin' back! How am I supposed to have a beautiful lawn with all them evil dandelions!?" Part of his strategy, according to high level, unnamed, sources in the administration, is to use agent orange and depleted uranium. While this might kill everything around, not just the dandelions, this did not seem to concern the President, who said, "This is war, and things die in war. Bring 'em on!"
When pressed further on the issue, the President somehow managed to blame it all on the liberals who aid and comfort the dandelions with their environmentalist movement. He said "Ya know, we would already have done away with them, if those liberals would stop helping the terrorists...ah, I mean dandelions...with their 'oh lets save the planet arguments.' If God wanted us to save the planet, he would not have let us been [sic] smart enough to come up with all these ways of killing it!"
Rick Santorum mentioned, in a recent interview, that this part of the President's Intelligent Design (ID) views which are really a variant on Creationism which has no science to support its claims. "You know, I think it is true what the President said about killing, it is part of why god made us capable of thought. It really is part of ID and he is also right that it is the liberals fault" which was echoed in the latest talking points memo, so Limbaugh, Coulter, O'Rielly, Mehlman, and Novak all said something similar, except Novak used the word "bullshit" frequently.
According to those same anonymous sources, there was a huge debate inside the administration on whether to call it the "Global Struggle Against Violet Extremism" (GSAVE) -- because it is a great acronym -- but in a rare moment of lucidity, it was realized that dandelions are not the same as violets even thought they both have petals and grow out of the ground. They determined that they would not make the same mistake they did with Iraq, which had nothing to do with 9/11. But then realizing this was out of character to say something honest, they had Karl Rove come up with the distraction of nominating a radical anti-environmentalist and neocon John Bolton to head up the committee on how to pin this on the violets. In that appointment meeting, Mr Bolton, lied under oath about his involvement in bolstering false claims against Iraq in the run up to the war, but the President appointed him anyway during recess.
When asked about the President's extended vacation, his gardener Jose Guantanamo, said, "Well, we all know Señor George needs his rest, and he is not the one who really does anything, so not much will change in day to day policy, and he is busy ignoring parents of dead soldiers."
When asked about the harmful effects of the chemicals he was using Mr. Guantanamo had this to say, "Well this is nothing compared to what he did with the badger insurgency during his last vacation -- a couple weeks ago -- he was using bunker buster nuclear arms all around here. You should have seen the mushroom clouds coming from the top of that hill there!", whereupon he pointed toward a large cratered area to the west of him. He also indicated that there is a new, even bigger, groundswell of badgers, and that they moved to another part of the sprawling ranch, behind the shed on the south side. He decided it was best not to mention the five eyed moles that moved in under the President's porch in the main house, saying "He might try to 'smoke 'em out of their holes' and burn the house down!".
to read the rest:
http://www.quintescent.net/
rorschach-
Are you going to watch them all in a row?? That's quite the time commitment there...
But when is there going to be a Terry Pratchett diskworld movie?
Thank god for Thread-bot, the last thread was getting so unfocused.
Hi bats.
rorschach-
Are you going to watch them all in a row?? That's quite the time commitment there...
aeternam626
I just finished, last week, the final project for my second Master's, and the third chapter of my diss towards my PhD, so yeah, I think I might just blow off the world for a bit... Plus it was birthday on the 17th.
Hey Sharkbabe.
Look, if you're going to do a LOTR marathon, at least take a break for sex at some point.
rorschach-
Then enjoy your quest to Mordor! 
That mega-church they're building from a mall scares me. It's like a huge monolithic monster. I'm glad I wont be driving past it anymore on my way back and forth to work soon.
Okay, I'm just beginning to watch The Fellowship of the Ring and plan to watch the entire series
Hmmm...a marathon viewing? The extended editions? By the time you get to the "laugh fest" where they're jumping up and down on Frodo's bed, you'll go nuts!
Thank god for Thread-bot, the last thread was getting so unfocused.
Indeed...let's have more bacon talk--make rorschach hungry for a good snack while basking in 360-degreee helicopter shots of New Zealand.
Look, if you're going to do a LOTR marathon, at least take a break for sex at some point.
Another Bruce
Done, and done.
It's scary and cold.
Okay, I'm just beginning to watch The Fellowship of the Ring and plan to watch the entire series... Good times for such a geek as I.
-roschach
i had one of those flicks going in the background one time. the dialogue went like this:
AAAARRRGGHHH! AAAARRRGGGHHH!
CLANG CLANG!
AAARGGH ARRGH!
nice scenery though. new zealand is really pretty.
i think tolkein is just hugely overrated. i also hate "star trek" in all of its incarnations.
A mega church built from a mall? There's one I've seen built from a giant grocery store, and the stadium seating ones... but that sounds enormous.
And wonder how the US is ever going to wake up the ents to overthrow the evil power of Rove.
Sharky, ltns! How's tricks? The wholesome and god-fearing kind, that is...
But when is there going to be a Terry Pratchett diskworld movie?
Doug, | Email | Homepage | 08.20.05 - 3:35 am | #
i'd watch that. i love terry pratchett.
Can you believe they're giving a stip-mall a religious looking facade? Actually, these days, I guess you could.
Morning Moonbats:
Insominia rears its ugly head. I do not belong awake before 4:00 a.m. Especially to find that Harry Reid had a stroke.
I love New Zealand, and these movies always make me wish I were back there.
And, yes, these movies are now background for me; I always read while having them on--so I shan't go mad, never fear...
And: Tolkien "overrated"? Please.
Look, if you're going to do a LOTR marathon, at least take a break for sex at some point.
Another Bruce
Done, and done.
I have a feeling that there are very few people who can do both...
I'm not sure if it's a so-called "strip mall" but it's huge. One of those big malls with the atriums in the middle.
i really liked "the hobbit". the lord of the rings epic thing was really tedious though i thought. but what the hell do i know? i have no taste. i even hate star trek.
And may I say, I cannot wait for the movie version of "V for Vendetta"!
Quilty!!
i think tolkein is just hugely overrated. i also hate "star trek" in all of its incarnations.
How can you not like Star Trek: Sexy Vulcans Unit?
Eli, wth are you doing up at this hour?
I have a feeling that there are very few people who can do both...
Eli
I am, then, a member of some elite?
When was the last time we convicted an Al Qaeda terrorist? The 90's, after the first WTC bombing. Fuck, and we fucked up this one as well.
NYT,
German Court Convicts Man of Qaeda Ties
By RICHARD BERNSTEIN
HAMBURG, Germany, Aug. 19 - A Moroccan man brought to trial in connection with the Sept. 11 attacks was convicted Friday, when a German court found him guilty of belonging to a terrorist organization and sentenced him to seven years in prison.
But the man, Mounir el-Motassadeq, 31, was found guilty only of belonging to Al Qaeda, specifically to a cell in Hamburg, whose other members included ringleaders in the Sept. 11 attacks.
Mr. Motassadeq was acquitted of a more serious charge, of complicity in the attacks, with the presiding judge in the trial criticizing the United States for refusing to release information that the court regarded as central to the case and necessary for a conviction on the complicity charge.
"This was a difficult case," the judge, Ernst-Rainer Schudt, said as he announced the verdict. "It didn't make it easier that the United States would not allow its intelligence services to give testimony here."
Mr. Motassadeq was among the first to be charged in connection with the attacks and is also among the first to be convicted, albeit for a different crime. In April, Zacarias Moussaoui pleaded guilty to participating in a Qaeda conspiracy to fly planes into American buildings, but he said the plan was to fly a plane into the White House, unrelated to the Sept. 11 plot.
Mr. Motassadeq's conviction and sentencing on Friday were the latest developments in a case that has dragged on for three years, through two long trials and one appeal. A lawyer for Mr. Motassadeq, Udo Jacob, said Friday he would appeal the new verdict.
"My client is not a terrorist," he said. "It's important for him that the whole world knows that."
i think tolkein is just hugely overrated. i also hate "star trek" in all of its incarnations.
Well there's an opening salvo for a geek war. This thread is off to a good start!
I'll stir the shit--science fiction has gone downhill since the sublime artistry of Plan 9 from Outer Space.
Discuss.
What is the difference between a "strip-mall" and one of those huge malls?
Eli, wth are you doing up at this hour?
Being in California!
What are *you* doing?
Can you believe they're giving a stip-mall a religious looking facade? Actually, these days, I guess you could.
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Yep, I can't think of a better symbol for today's faith based 'murica. 'Cept for maybe a church designed like a shopping mall.
Actually there's a lot of churches that look like shopping malls.
"i'd watch that. i love terry pratchett."
There's been a couple of non-pro attempts at doing terry Pratchett. One in Germany with really cheezy special effects, that was done on a budget of almost 0-DM. Another in Australia that might be better, that Terry Pratchett, has actually written some of the dialog.
I still think it's pretty low budget. If it's ever released, I'd watch it.
Don't be making fun of Ed Wood.
I am, then, a member of some elite?
Dude, not so loud.
or:
Star Trek: 7 of 9 and the Other 8 - Girls' Night In
mmmmmm
Being in California!
What are *you* doing?
Great picture of the pelicans!
tolkein has gone the way of jazz. any power he had has been killed by his acceptance by respectable scholars.
I think a strip mall is a series of stores in a straight line along a road with one parking lot.
A mall-mall has stores arranged around an indoor corridor.
A mall-mall has stores arranged around an indoor corridor.
Seebach
It's a big mall-mall.
i liked uhuru in the original star trek series. everything else is crap.
Thanks, Uncle S! I was torn between Big And Chaotic vs. Small And In Tight V Formation.
I have to say, among the reasons I'm glad I studied at Oxford are: that I happened upon Tolkien's grave--quite by accident-- (very simple, and still adorned with flowers), and that I managed to have a pint at the pub where he and CS Lewis used to hang out.
Glen or Glenda was really quite touching, and bizarre. It was a message movie for acceptance for transvestites. In the 1950's no less! That Edward D. Wood, Jr was one no way lessens its message.
If a a main stream producer ever did a diskworld movie,
who'd play, Knobby Knobs?
The pratritian?
His wife?
Commander Vimes?
Carrot?
The 100% Pork pie vender?
That Edward D. Wood, Jr was one no way lessens its message.
No, *that* doesn't lessen its message.
An apparently deranged Bela Lugosi shouting "Pull the string! Pull the string!", on the other hand...
So, my plan is to never sleep again.
Howsabout you?
tolkein has gone the way of jazz. any power he had has been killed by his acceptance by respectable scholars.
Olaf glad and big
Oh, please. You give too much power to "scholars," whoever they are.
So, my plan is to never sleep again.
Howsabout you?
Well, that's my *plan*, yeah...
A gran mal has... oh, that's just not even funny.
But a gra... nevermind
A Pall Mall has that satisfying flavor that really satisfies. And brings the ladies, fellas...
I think a strip mall is where you go to see strippers.
I could be shopping in the wrong places though.
"jazz. any power he had has been killed by his acceptance by respectable scholars."
Listen to some of the 50's blue note albums. Wow!
That mega-church they're building from a mall scares me.
Dude, that's nothing. In Houston, they sold the NBA stadium to the Nth Baptist Church of Satellite Dishes so they could build a new one. Jeebus wept, indeed.
Bela Lugosi was the hand of fate... the cruel puppetmaster who afflicts us all with weaknesses we struggle with. Such a cynical vision of the dark side of God and nature!
A Pall Mall has that satisfying flavor that really satisfies. And brings the ladies, fellas...
What about Pall Mamall? Or Grand Mamal, for that matter?
Sleep is for the weary, Marcia.
Bela Lugosi was the hand of fate... the cruel puppetmaster who afflicts us all with weaknesses we struggle with. Such a cynical vision of the dark side of God and nature!
Can you *prove* it didn't happen?
The 100% Pork pie vender?
Doug
I'd have to think about the rest--but this one?
Hands down, Steve Buscemi.
Howsabout you?
Marcia Brady
Well, as a night worker, I have an excuse. I have to stay up as long as I possibly can so I wont be sleepy at work tonight yelling at idiots. You just don't have the same impact when you're yelling and yawning at the same time.
I have to say, among the reasons I'm glad I studied at Oxford are: that I happened upon Tolkien's grave--quite by accident-- (very simple, and still adorned with flowers), and that I managed to have a pint at the pub where he and CS Lewis used to hang out.
rorschach | Email | Homepage | 08.20.05 - 3:50 am | #
don't even get me started on c. s. lewis. i think tolkein is overrated, but at least he rates. it is a mystery to me why anyone even remembers c. s. lewis' name.
Sometimes on weekends I'll sniff some chocolate incense, eat some Portobella mushrooms, watch Ed Wood, and finish off with William Shatner's The Transformed Man. Freaky shit, man.
A Pall Mall has that satisfying flavor that really satisfies. And brings the ladies, fellas...
All the oldschool fans called'em Pell Mells.
While watching Bill Maher I was struck by the question of why Bush invaded Iraq. The reasons given were the usual crap. The obivious reason would seem for the Halliburton-Military Industry
to reap as much of the U.S. Treasury as possible while the foxes guard the hen house. In the first months of the occupation the bridges in Bagdad had to be rebuilt ASAP. In 1991 when the bridges were bombed the local Iraqi contractors had rebuilt all the bridges and quickly. One of these local Iraqi contractors went to the Americans in charge of the Provisional Authority
to bid on a rebuilding job on a bridge they had rebuilt in 1991. They bid $300,000 including
materials because in 1991 the Iraqi government had stockpiled rebuilding materials for the bridges for future needs. The Provisional Authority refused the bid and put out the job for
$55,000,000 to an approved contractor that imported the materials from Germany. This is only one example of the raid on the U.S. Treasury. Impeachment and war profiteering
trials for anyone with their hand in the cookie jar. It would seem the greed has cost us lives and honor and all the rightwing blathering in the world won't solve a thing. It will just keepm us busy until they're driven from the temple.
And they think they're so damn rightous.
and as romanwalls would say:
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BaldMonkie | 08.20.05 - 3:42 am | #
MISTER TAMBOURINE MAAAANNN!!!!
Don't be making fun of Ed Wood.
Wow, that statement is so ironic that it crosses over into heavy meta.
"jazz. any power he had has been killed by his acceptance by respectable scholars."
Listen to some of the 50's blue note albums. Wow!
Doug, | Email | Homepage | 08.20.05 - 3:53 am | #
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hell yeah. that was before jazz was respectable. great stuff.
it is a mystery to me why anyone even remembers c. s. lewis' name.
Olaf glad and big
Perhaps because he wrote some very clever children's books, along with a number of fairly compelling apologies for Christianity?
Sure, because absentee ballots are totally tamperproof...
"I AM THROWING DOWN THE GUANOLET."
A rather shitty thing to do, I must say.
to bid on a rebuilding job on a bridge they had rebuilt in 1991. They bid $300,000 including
materials because in 1991 the Iraqi government had stockpiled rebuilding materials for the bridges for future needs. The Provisional Authority refused the bid and put out the job for
$55,000,000 to an approved contractor that imported the materials from Germany
Was Don '$25M bridge' Young involved?(R-AK) Oh yeah, and $3M for a documentary about the things Don Young has done to improve Alaska.
ANWR say huh whaaaa?
"I AM THROWING DOWN THE GUANOLET."
A rather shitty thing to do, I must say.
Marcia Brady
Oh, I dung know...
"I AM THROWING DOWN THE GUANOLET."
A rather shitty thing to do, I must say.
Still considerably less revolting than "I AM THROWING UP THE GUANOLET"...
The movie Ed Wood was awesome. Johnny Depp was awesome before all you PEONS learned of him in Pirates.
Perhaps because he wrote some very clever children's books, along with a number of fairly compelling apologies for Christianity?
My childhood reaction to C.S. Lewis: "He's certainly no Larry Niven or Robert Heinlein."
Then I rapidly became annoyed with his condescending tone. He could learn a thing or 3 from J.K. Rowling about that.
watching NFL Shop on HSN right now znd thinking of buying lots of NFL gear. Some pretty cool stuff but I really don't need any of it. Someone stop me.
You com post all you want, but it'll still be a waste.
An apparently deranged Bela Lugosi shouting "Pull the string! Pull the string!", on the other hand...
Great, now they are on to just how depraved we are.
MISTER TAMBOURINE MAAAANNN!!!!
The depths our trolls sink to never cease to amaze me.
it is a mystery to me why anyone even remembers c. s. lewis' name.
Olaf glad and big
Perhaps because he wrote some very clever children's books, along with a number of fairly compelling apologies for Christianity?
rorschach | Email | Homepage | 08.20.05 - 3:57 am | #
his children's books were lame. i read them as a child. his apologies for christianity are fallacious.
Oh, I dung know...
"I AM THROWING UP THE GUANOLET"...
Man, talk about bat shit crazy conversation...
melior--for condescending tone, Heinlein cannot be beat.
Who's Johnny Depp?
Narnia is stealth Christianity. That doesn't stop Christians from boycotting the books. Talk about meta irony.
Man, talk about bat shit crazy conversation...
Man, u're not kidding.
"Johnny Depp was awesome before all you PEONS learned of him in Pirates." --
Seebach
Hey, Johnny Depp was awesome as soon as his head was delivered.
Johnny Depp was awesome in 21 Jump Street!
Wait...
Took some friends caving once in Carter County Kentucky. We were camping inside the Bat Cave. One of them inquired what was this hill made of that we were sleeping on (it was winter time, much warmer in the cave 55F all year round)
They were horrified when I told them it was aged bat guano. Aged because the bats of Bat cave have been decimated by people who go inside to kill them. There still were colonies of bats there, but I understand that there were only about 1/1000th of their original size.
watching NFL Shop on HSN right now znd thinking of buying lots of NFL gear. Some pretty cool stuff but I really don't need any of it. Someone stop me.
Jesus Christ! I throw my body between you and your credit card! No No No Stop Stop Stop!
his children's books were lame. i read them as a child. his apologies for christianity are fallacious.
Olaf glad and big
I completely agree that the Christian apologetics are fallacious, given that I'm an atheist.
But the Narnia books were cool when I was a kid.
Wow...Olaf...oof!
What do you like?
Seebach: I enjoy a dose of Ed Wood, every now and then. I was just riffing on the "holy war" nature of pop culture criticism.
Having said that, poetry has gone downhill since the sublime artistry of Leonard Nimoy.
[Hi, Marcia! ]
:::burp:::
seriously, when i started on the narnia books i had just sort of become aware of what the whole point of reading books was, and they were recommended to me by a well meaning adult. they damn near changed my mind about the whole idea of reading books they were so stupid.
Who's Johnny Depp?
Another Bruce | 08.20.05 - 4:02 am | #
The guy your girlfreind/wife/whatever would screw without remorse.
But you are still gonna get shit about Jessica Alba(or whoever).
"along with a number of fairly compelling apologies for Christianity?"
Does it seem strange to anyone else that someone who defends a position/philosophy is called an "apologist"?
I'm sure there is some Greekish/Latinate reason for the term.
Mmmm, Jessica Alba.
"[Hi, Marcia! ]" --
Uncle Smokes
Kisses, Uncle Smokes. Leonard is a God among men. Or at least a Vulcan among humans.
Hey, has anybody else noticed that google is down right now?
Doug, I had the chance to see the bats coming out of the caves at Carlsbad when I was young.
Wow. Just wow.
has anyone here ever read the original doctor dolittle series?
"The guy your girlfreind/wife/whatever would screw without remorse.
But you are still gonna get shit about Jessica Alba(or whoever)." --
Just Sayin
Having sex with a hot celebrity is like paying taxes.
We don't have actual royalty in this country, remember? Just don't go the way of an old friend of mine who slept with Eddie Money.
Odd it works in Firefox but not Konqueror. Wonder if it has anything to do with the gcc upgrade I did tonight.
Will check this after rebooting. Things may be a bit out of sync.
The Screwtape Letters PROVE that Jesus exits! or Satan.. or some guy with some letters...
But he exists !!
Marcia is an apology apologist.
I noticed Bartcop was down earlier tonight.
"along with a number of fairly compelling apologies for Christianity?"
Does it seem strange to anyone else that someone who defends a position/philosophy is called an "apologist"?
I'm sure there is some Greekish/Latinate reason for the term.
Marcia Brady | Email | Homepage | 08.20.05 - 4:05 am | #
it's greekish. an apologia is basically a defense of something.
Leonard is a God among men. Or at least a Vulcan among humans.
He is no Ed Wood, though.
[ducks swing from Seebach]
Just don't go the way of an old friend of mine who slept with Eddie Money.
Mrs Eddie Money? or worse?
An "apologist" is a person who engages regularly in the study and practice of "apologetics". In turn, apologetics is the study and practice of the intellectual defense of a belief system -- in our case, the Christian faith. The words derive from the Greek apologia("defense") and apologeo ("to defend")
Hehehe Jesus exits...
"Mrs Eddie Money? or worse?" --
Ripley
Oh, God, much, much worse.
for condescending tone, Heinlein cannot be beat.
Well, yes. But not so much in his books for kids, like Podkayne of Mars and Have Spacesuit, Will Travel. He saved the serious condescension for his more adult-aimed odes to Libertarianism, which were admittedly over the top on self-satisfied smugness.
harry potter is a million times better than those stupid narnia books.
"Marcia is an apology apologist." --Seebach
For which I am eternally sorry.
Well, sure... but have you read the Advanced Narnia books, Olaf?
Northwest Airlines' mechanic's union is striking!
This a big, big deal!
Who's Johnny Depp?
Another Bruce | 08.20.05 - 4:02 am | #
The guy your girlfreind/wife/whatever would screw without remorse.
Include husband.
Bartcop is back up.
Here's a link to Digby, wherein typical Bush voters are interviewed in red states. Incog posted the interview below. Man, oh man. I just don't know what to make of this.
A sample:
Have you always been Republican?
When I first registered, I was a Democrat. Just from studying in school, I thought that's what I wanted to be because I believed in government for the people, by the people and of the people. But after I was saved, I realized the Republican beliefs are me so I switched and I'm glad I did.
I realized why I was so out of sorts at my band gig tonight.
I spend my life commuting through an increasingly soul-dead ugly boring life-destroying landscape that unchecked dictator Cheney doesn't think is bad enough but wants to have me sit in gas lines too.
Hee hee hee. I think all of us have posted that Digby quote. And we're all equally horrified.
As for C. S. Lewis, I have to laugh a bit.
It was he who encouraged Tolkien to publish in the first place.
My experience has been that when someone finishes reading The Lord of the Rings, but wants more; someone will invariably mentions The Chronicles of Narnia.
Lewis seems always lurking in Tolkien's shadow.
The Lord of the Rings films were a smashing success, and, sure enough, here comes The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe.
Yes, I have to laugh.
Plus the band was rusty after two weeks off and the sound was out of our hands and sucked.
That on top of impending economic collapse and WWIII - well, this girl's got a lot on her mind.
there's a Monty Python script in this story.
British Soldiers Get germ-fighting underwear.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/
20050...HNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
Include husband.
That reads like tranlsated-from-Japanese instructions for something naughty.
Google problem was the gcc upgrade. Works now.
QL, there is nothing to stop them now.
Ah that digby quote. That's the sort of people Justice Sunday preaches to. Next year I read they plan on having several Justice Sunday rallies around the country to gotv. Scary indeed...
I realized why I was so out of sorts at my band gig tonight.
I spend my life commuting through an increasingly soul-dead ugly boring life-destroying landscape that unchecked dictator Cheney doesn't think is bad enough but wants to have me sit in gas lines too.
Sharkbabe | Email | 08.20.05 - 4:15 am | #
i had the same problem, sharkbabe, my maryland homegirl. guess what i did? i said fuck it and moved to new mexico. it's beautiful out here.
That on top of impending economic collapse and WWIII - well, this girl's got a lot on her mind.
But your butt looks great!
I do what I can...
Sharkbabe:
I think you were out of sorts because there doesn't seem to be any hope on the horizon. I keep searching for glimmers that the American people are finally waking up, then I see something like the Digby post and just want to give up.
Sorry if I repeated the post. Unless I sit here 24/7, there's no way to keep up.
When I first registered, I was a Democrat. Just from studying in school, I thought that's what I wanted to be because I believed in government for the people, by the people and of the people. But after I was saved, I realized the Republican beliefs are me so I switched and I'm glad I did.
This is what Alexander Hamilton fretted about concerning "mob rule."
Oh, no problem about reposting the quote. It needs to be seen by everybody. It's just everyone seems to have the same reaction to it. And it's always that same money quote, too.
"i had the same problem, sharkbabe, my maryland homegirl. guess what i did? i said fuck it and moved to new mexico. it's beautiful out here." --
Olaf glad and big
I had the same problem, and moved from SoCal to NYC. No car, and there are actual fucking neighborhoods with neighbors who talk to each other and kids who walk to school.
Who'd a thunk?
Nah, I take that back. Alexander Hamilton didn't even come close.
I'm off to bed. Keep merging left, kids.
Vaya con Devo!
Did Alexander Hamilton have anything to say about drooling shit-for-brains idiot rule?
"i had the same problem, sharkbabe, my maryland homegirl. guess what i did? i said fuck it and moved to new mexico. it's beautiful out here."
Yeah, NM is beautiful. And, for nonwhites, impoverished and miserable.
"R" rated fantasy that is hard to put down is George R. R. Martin's "A Game of Thrones" series. A wild ride. The first three are out and this fall the fourth is out with a the fifth in the series in the wings. Best part is just when you start rooting for the good guy, they get snuffed.
seriously, sharkbabe, i've been to southern md. it used to be a wonderful place. now it sucks. mcmansions everywhere. the bay is dead beyond repair. traffic is a nightmare. it's not worth it. it's all gone. everything i ever liked about that part of the world is history.
there's a Monty Python script in this story.
British Soldiers Get germ-fighting underwear.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ 20050...HNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
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COME BACK TO MY PLACE IS HILARIOUS. I TRIED THIS ONCE BUT I HE SIAD NO.
Yeah, NM is beautiful. And, for nonwhites, impoverished and miserable.
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so what are you saying? that it is different from the rest of the us in that respect?
Good night, resplendent guys and dolls.
Don't let the thetans bite.
Mary Fowler, 54, Housekeeper
Why do you think gas prices are so high?
From what I've read, they say it's because of the Iraq war. I've also read about alternatives to gas and even automobiles that use alternatives, but for some reason, the big oil companies bought up the patents for that, so it's not just the Iraq war and it's not President Bush's fault. He gets blamed for everything, but it's not his fault. It's just greed from other people. I feel like the president is doing everything he can to help.
Mary needs to be stoned to death if she drinks a beer.
Yeah, NM is beautiful. And, for nonwhites, impoverished and miserable.
rorschach | Email | Homepage | 08.20.05 - 4:27 am | #
so what are you saying? that it is different from the rest of the us in that respect?
Olaf glad and big
Well, yeah, I said "beautiful"!
But, seriously, the racism against Hispanics and Native Americans in New Mexico is pretty ugly in NM.
nonwhites are impoverished and miserable in every part of the us where i have ever lived. that's all i'm saying.
I am afeared. The church has become an arm of the Republican party.
I am fond of Asimov's Foundation series, and most of Clive Barker's novels.
Anyone here ever read The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant, the Unbeliever.
Enjoyed them as a jaded teenager...I wonder if they'd still work now that I'm a jaded middle-ager?
Mary needs to be stoned to death if she drinks a beer.
You're dead on there, buddy. That would be alcohol abuse.
'I am afeared. The church has become an arm of the Republican party.'
Just an arm? More like most of the damn body...
The cool thing about Plan 9 is the message.. . effeminate spaceman Eros tells squarejaw he-man Jeff that the human race is too stupid & warlike ("...because all you of earth..are IDIOTS!"), so Jeff proves him wrong by beating him up....a little subversive for the 50s...
rorschach, do you think that racism against hispanics and native americans is unusually virulent in nm? i haven't been here that long, but it doesn't seem that way to me.
MERKIN MAN,
FYI, I was just kidding way back when saying you were a satrical troll and should be ignored. Then I was flamed and wasn't going to involve you in it so I fought them back. It was all really stupid but funny.
That probably doesn't make any sense, I know.
Uncle SMokes--
Yes, I read Thomas Covenant, and liked it. Don't know how I'd like it now, but it was refreshing to see a fantasy series with an antihero...
I also like the Foundation series, although its historiography is all kinds of wrongheaded.
Olaf moved across the country faster than I've been able to in two months across town.
Olaf moved across the country faster than I've been able to in two months across town.
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i cheated. i threw away almost everything i owned.
rorschach, do you think that racism against hispanics and native americans is unusually virulent in nm? i haven't been here that long, but it doesn't seem that way to me.
Olaf glad and big
Well, as far as structural racism goes, it's all the same as far as Native Americans and Hispanics go.
New Mexico is, however, better generally as far as individual racism, largely due to the high percentage of Hispanics.
However, in towns that are near to reservations and pueblos, it is really nasty...
I got an old friend locally, Margie, from crossing over to the dark side with them. The fundies have tried to recruit her, you know, like they say gays want to do. She said, "But they're all so nice." I told her that's how they are but they're big-time holy-rollers. Margie loves to gamble at the boats. She hasn't mentioned them since.
rorschach, i'll tell you one thing i have noticed, which is true here. . .the native hispanics, the chicanos, hate the mojados (illegales)more than anyone i've ever met anywhere.
i cheated. i threw away almost everything i owned.
Olaf glad and big
I hear, ya. But I don't have an excuse. I wish I could throw all my junk away but there's tons of storage space in the attic over the garage which is totally empty there so that would be just plain laziness on my part if I did that only moving across town. So I'm limping along in this hot heat slowly getting it all moved.
Actually, I wish I was 18 again and all I owned I could fit in a back-pack and hit the road.
rorschach, i'll tell you one thing i have noticed, which is true here. . .the native hispanics, the chicanos, hate the mojados (illegales)more than anyone i've ever met anywhere.
Olaf glad and big
No shit! That is completely correct.
And the whole "spanish" versus "hispanic" thing always threw me off too...
(I taught at UNM for a couple years, just FYI)
Alas and alack! Mine eyes, they are droopy, and my mind now mush!
My parting thought is that if, as Seebach says, "The church has become an arm of the Republican party," then let's hope that some parts of the Sermon on the Mount get a bit of attention.
Imagine, a political party dedicated to helping people.
Oh yeah...just imagine...
Good night!
Actually, I wish I was 18 again and all I owned I could fit in a back-pack and hit the road.
Ô¿Ô
Sometimes I do wonder why I trading in living on the streets of New Orleans for a mortgage.
Sometimes I do wonder why I trading in living on the streets of New Orleans for a mortgage.
rorschach
I've found that I'm not respected because I don't have a mortage. I'm treated like a rogue male because I'm not married and wont own a house. I'm suspect. I've had a decently paying job for years and don't owe anyone anything I just wont be a part of the rat race I don't think sustainable, anyway. The Hummer Pressure is always there. You're not a sucessful human being unless you make the largest most damaging footprint on the planet.
And the whole "spanish" versus "hispanic" thing always threw me off too...
(I taught at UNM for a couple years, just FYI)
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i'm still trying to work that out. i'm not sure what you are talking about, but to me it seems like "chicano" vs "mexican" is the dividing line rather than spanish vs hispanic. maybe you are talking about the same thing using different words. i could be completely wrong. chicano seems to be higher status than mexican though.
When we sold our 4 bedroom house to move to a two bedroom apartment, we had a garage sale for two weeks, then had to hire a dump truck to get rid of all the crap we had accumulated. We still have too much, but at least most of it is now family stuff. Lesson learned, even people who haven't bought into the whole consumer society bit get taken in. Our downfall were garage sales. Now we hardly buy anything, and we don't need anything either.
You might get the last laugh, Incognito. Or maybe not. The world has a funny way with fucking with people.
I've got to got to sleep also.
Bye everyone.
rorschach, do you speak spanish?
I'm probably something of a rogue, though.
Olaf--I do not speak Spanish.
When I was there, teaching, the divisions were pretty much Spanish-Hispanic-Native America-Anglo.
What you write is interesting, as I never heard the word "Chicano" used there.
i could be completely wrong. chicano seems to be higher status than mexican though.
Olaf glad and big
I was surprised the divide of bigotry that exists within Mexican culture. The more native American you are, and they know by your surname, the more discriminated you are.
i do speak spanish. chicano is a term used proudly around here.
i do speak spanish. chicano is a term used proudly around here.
Olaf glad and big
Okay. Whereabouts are ya? My wife does speak Spanish, and lived and taught in New Mexico for a few years, and she also never heard that word used.
rorschach, i don't mean to denigrate your experience, but if i didn't speak spanish, new mexico would just be a gigantic mystery to me. most of the people who live here seem to be more comfortable speaking spanish than english.
i'm in albuquerque
the term "chicano" is used proudly in albuquerque. at least now it is. maybe it is recent. it just means that you are from here and are not a recent immigrant as far as i can tell. it's a way of identifying yourself as someone with rights, it seems to me.
Olaf--I was lucky enough to have Spanish speaking friends. And also friends who spoke the local Native American languages. (And I have a Lakota friend making me a Star quilt for my wedding!)
So, although I am impaired, I do think I have managed to deal with such defects.
Are Chicanos the same as Mexicans?
Here is a "taxonomy" that may be a useful reference for this topic:
"Spanish people"
This term is used frequently in the United States to refer indiscriminately to any person that speaks Spanish. As such, it is imprecise and often inappropriate in that it includes people from more than two dozen countries, spanning all of the American continent, the Caribbean and Spain. The term does apply specifically, however, as the proper name for the native people of Spain, and for this reason it is as incorrect to use it to refer to any and all Spanish-speakers as the term "English" would be to refer to citizens of New Zealand, Australia or the United States.
Hispanics
This term is often used to refer collectively to all Spanish-speakers. However, it specifically connotes a lineage or cultural heritage related to Spain. As many millions of people who speak Spanish are not of true Spanish descent (e.g., native Americans), and millions more live in Latin America (cf., "Latino" below) yet do not speak Spanish or claim Spanish heritage (e.g., Brazilians) this term is incorrect as a collective name for all Spanish-speakers, and may actually be cause for offense.
Latino
This term is used to refer to people originating from, or having a heritage related to, Latin America, in recognition of the fact that this set of people is actually a superset of many nationalities. Since the term "Latin" comes into use as the least common denominator for all peoples of Latin America in recognition of the fact that some romance language (Spanish, Portuguese, French) is the native tongue of the majority of Latin Americans, this term is widely accepted by most. However, the term is not appropriate for the millions of native Americans who inhabit the region.
Mexican
Specifically, the nationality of the inhabitants of Mexico. Therefore, the term is used appropriately for Mexican citizens who visit or work in the United States, but it is insufficient to designate those people who are citizens of the United States (they were born in the US or are naturalized citizens of the US) who are of Mexican ancestry. The various terms used to properly designate such people are described below, however, it is important to explain why these people feel it is important to make such a distinction. US citizens who are troubled by this often point out that most immigrants do not distinguish themselves by point of origin first, (i.e., German-American), but simply as "Americans" (another troublesome term, but we won't get detoured by that here). Here are some reasons why many US citizens of Mexican extraction feel that it is important to make the distinction:
*Not "Americans" by choice
A scant 150 years ago, approximately 50% of what was then Mexico was appropriated by the US as spoils of war, and in a series of land "sales" that were coerced capitalizing on the US victory in that war and Mexico's weak political and economic status. A sizable number of Mexican citizens became citizens of the United States from one day to the next as a result, and the treaty declaring the peace between the two countries recognized the rights of such people to their private properties (as deeded by Mexican or Spanish colonial authorities), their own religion (Roman Catholicism) and the right to speak and receive education in their own tongue (for the majority, Spanish) [refer to the text of the treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo]. Therefore, the descendants of this population continue to press for such rights, and many hold that theirs is a colonized land and people in view of the fact that their territory and population was taken over by military force.
*Mexicans first, "Americans" second?
Another and more numerous class of US citizens of Mexican extraction are either descendants of, or are themselves, people who conceive of themselves as temporarily displaced from Mexico by economic circumstances. As opposed to the waves of European migrants who willingly left their countries due to class and religious discrimination, and sought to make their lives anew in the "new world" and never to return to the "old land," these displaced Mexicans typically maintain strong family ties in Mexico (by visiting periodically, and by investing their incomes in homes or kin in Mexico), and usually intend to return to Mexico provided they can become economically secure. Therefore these people maintain and nurture their children in their language, religion and customs.
it just means that you are from here and are not a recent immigrant as far as i can tell. it's a way of identifying yourself as someone with rights, it seems to me.
Olaf glad and big
Yes, that is exactly what it means. Agreed completely.
All I was saying was that in New Mexico, everyone I met said "Hispanic," and the word "Chicano" has been much more prevalent here in Texas. (And, my wife claims, also in Connecticut!)
like i say, i don't mean to denigrate your experience. as far as i can tell the spanish speaking meztizos here who have been here for generations proudly call themselves "chicanos" to differentiate themselves from the recent immigrants from mexico. that may be a recent development as far as terminology goes.
Morning atriots
Police rethink shoot to kill policy
Britain's top police officers are reviewing the controversial shoot to kill policy after its first use ended in the gunning down of an innocent man, the Guardian has learned.
The review by the Association of Chief Police Officers comes amid a continuing dispute around the Metropolitan police commissioner, Sir Ian Blair, over his handling of the killing of Brazilian Jean Charles de Menezes.
A senior police source and member of Acpo said: "The review is not theoretical, it is looking in great depth."
It's all about "Spanish blood." Even someone who is pure Spanish but has lived there for at least one generation isn't considered "pure Spanish blood." Or marry-able. I don't know who Fox of Mexico married but I guarantee you, it wasn't someone from Mexico. The "Indios", which is a slur and what they are referred as, are treated with contempt. And they mostly take it.
like i say, i don't mean to denigrate your experience.
Like I say, you can't.
I was in NM, what, 4 years ago? So it'd be mighty recent... but let's just let it stand.
Who was that blonde cow on Bill Mahr's show tonight that said women in Iraq were uneducated and wearing burqa's five years ago? Did I hear correctly that she has written a book about what women want?! Who the hell is her publisher? Someone needs to ship her ass to Iraq right now. And I want to know, was she purposely lying or is she just completely ignorant?
I don't know who Fox married, but correct me if I'm wrong.
Work until you drop: how the long-hours culture is killing us
In Japan they call it karoshi and in China it is guolaosi. As yet there is no word in English for working yourself to death, but as more and more people put in longer hours and suffer more stress there may soon be.
This week, an American survey concluded that long working hours increased an individual's chances of illness and injury. It noted that for those doing 12 hours a day, there was a 37% increase in risk compared to those working fewer hours.
Ronald Reagan was wrong, it seems, when he said: "Hard work never killed anyone." Death from overwork is not a new phenomenon in Britain but it is largely unremarked upon.
It's all about "Spanish blood." Even someone who is pure Spanish but has lived there for at least one generation isn't considered "pure Spanish blood." Or marry-able. I don't know who Fox of Mexico married but I guarantee you, it wasn't someone from Mexico. The "Indios", which is a slur and what they are referred as, are treated with contempt. And they mostly take it.
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that's actually true as far as i can tell. this is probably what rorschach was talking about. the spanish speaking people who have been here for a long time all claim to be descended from the conquistadores, and they probably are. but they are also desceded from the conquistados. and when i say "a long time" i mean since about 100 years before the massachusetts bay colony was established.
Who was that blonde cow on Bill Mahr's show tonight that said women in Iraq were uneducated and wearing burqa's five years ago? Did I hear correctly that she has written a book about what women want?! Who the hell is her publisher? Someone needs to ship her ass to Iraq right now. And I want to know, was she purposely lying or is she just completely ignorant?
Danya
See, this all returns to my thesis, guaranteed to send everybody finally scurring off to bed. Those who most fight equal rights for women in Iraq are fundamentalists women. Equal rights for women, with them in a burka, create the least chance for their own personal reproduction. Islamic law is more favorable for their reproduction.
that's actually true as far as i can tell. this is probably what rorschach was talking about. the spanish speaking people who have been here for a long time all claim to be descended from the conquistadores, and they probably are. but they are also desceded from the conquistados. and when i say "a long time" i mean since about 100 years before the massachusetts bay colony was established.
Olaf glad and big
I'm a fucking mongrel and I like that. Fuck them.
IMF report to warn of oil price threat to global economy
The International Monetary Fund is to warn that record oil prices pose a significant risk to the global economy and could thwart growth next year, according to an apparent leak of its forthcoming World Economic Outlook.
Oil prices spiralled to over $67 a barrel earlier this week and many analysts have cautioned the economy could be headed for a recession if such high prices continue.
Yesterday the price of oil jumped $1 to above $65 a barrel after news that rockets hit two US warships docked in Jordan and another in southern Israel.
i will say that at the present time in albuquerque, nm, the term "chicano/a" is used by people to identify themselves.
The "Indios" are far more pure-bred than me. Mexicans running across the border are more pure bred than me.
i will say that at the present time in albuquerque, nm, the term "chicano/a" is used by people to identify themselves.
Olaf glad and big
It's basically racism. I've seen tons of it within Mexican culture.
Okay, here's the thing.
It isn't a US thing, but the police chief of London, Ian Blair, refuses to resign, but in the new age manner, takes "full responsibility" for the shooting in the tube.
I actually liked this guy right after the 7th. He said the right things. But it turns out he is as corrupt as any right-winger.
He tried to halt any investigation, let the family believe the police thought their dead son was a terrorist...even when they knew he wasn't.
See..that is the thing. Blair tries to shuck and jive, bob & weave, saying it was an unfortunate accident, but HIS DIRECT ACTIONS afterwards (as well as the negligent standing orders at the time) were certainly loathsome.
This pig of a man ought to hear from folk that aren't buying the "accidents will happen" bull, it was no accident he actively wanted to stop investigations, and propogated more misinformation, defamation.
Newest news, Scontland Yard offered a million to the family. They were refused.
I REFUSE TO BITE MY TUNG ANY LONGER.
Oh...PLEASE??? Just a little more?
I spent a wonderful Christmas dinner with this family's son I was in the military with in Mexico. So I get back discussing it with a so-called "chicano" who was very distastefull when I mentioned his name.
I heard a drunk and his girlfriend arguing in the street about 15 minutes ago. He kept yelling you won't let me be me. I would say his anger is probably misdirected. He is probably working too many hours and not finding enough time to pursue other interests.
"Chicano" shit is pure bigotry.
Pope to meet German Muslim heads
Pope Benedict XVI is to meet Muslim leaders in Germany on Saturday, as he continues a four-day visit to his native country.
It follows the Pope's meeting with Protestant and Jewish groups in the city of Cologne.
On Friday, the Pope paid his respects at a synagogue in Cologne - the first such visit by a pontiff in Germany.
The Pope warned of rising anti-Semitism and offered prayers at a memorial for Jews killed during the Nazi era.
On the third day of his trip, the Pope will receive the members of a Turkish Islamic body that operates many of Germany's mosques in Cologne, Reuters news agency reported.
I spent a wonderful Christmas dinner with this family's son I was in the military with in Mexico. So I get back discussing it with a so-called "chicano" who was very distastefull when I mentioned his name.
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incog, my friend. i know you have a lot of rage for a lot of reasons. pretty good reasons for the most part. spend time with people who love you. spend time with people you love. life is good. i'm just saying that because i think you forget sometimes. life is good. live.
And "bigotry" is another resource adaptation which I discuss in my bacteria thesis.
Tom Joad the Met were desperatly trying to hide their cock up. How one Police offer paniced and shot an innocent man.
Their actions and especially Ian Blair has managed to damage confidence in the Police and caused anger with the blokes famliy.
"Chicano" shit is pure bigotry.
Ô¿Ô
Dead wrong.
life is good. i'm just saying that because i think you forget sometimes. life is good. live.
Olaf glad and big
I think it more pertinent to be srambling out of the way of all these scary trends coming our way, thank ya very much. Yeah this bacteria wants to live and intends to.
And I have no intention of being dead wrong.
Chicano [chi knō] (plural Chicanos)
n
US Mexican-American man: a North American man or boy of Mexican descent
[Mid-20th century. From American Spanish , a variant of Spanish mexicano ‘Mexican’, from México ‘Mexico’.]
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Chicano [chi knō] (plural Chicanos)
n
US Mexican-American man: a North American man or boy of Mexican descent
[Mid-20th century. From American Spanish , a variant of Spanish mexicano ‘Mexican’, from México ‘Mexico’.]
Microsoft® Encarta® Premium Suite 2003. © 1993-2002 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
And on this note, can I just say, I love the Minutemen, for this reason.
Without knowing, who is Fox married to?
Vicent Fox is married to Marta Sahagún
Vicent Fox is married to Marta Sahagún
damm you haloscan for double posting grrrr
rorschach
That IS rich!
Morning, one and all.
*Vicente Fox Quesada.
Yup, Marta Sahagún is not Mexican. From a quick Google search, she's Argentinian and its "elitist" Spanish language.
Events today
636 - Battle of Yarmuk: Arab forces led by Khalid bin Walid take control of Syria and Palestine away from the Byzantine Empire, marking the first great wave of Muslim conquests and the rapid advance of Islam outside Arabia.
917 - Battle of Anchialus: Tsar Simeon I of Bulgaria invades Thrace and drives the Byzantines out.
1882 - Piotr Ilyitch Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture debuts in Moscow.
1940 - Exiled Russian revolutionary Leon Trotsky is fatally wounded in Mexico City by an assassin's ice-ax. He will die the next day.
1968 - 200,000 Warsaw Pact troops and 5,000 tanks invade Czechoslovakia to end the "Prague Spring" of political liberalization.
1998 - 1998 U.S. embassy bombings: The United States military launches cruise missile attacks against alleged al-Qaida camps in Afghanistan and a suspected chemical plant in Sudan in retaliation for the August 7 bombings of American embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. The al-Shifa pharmaceutical factory in Khartoum is destroyed in the attack.
Vicent Fox is married to Marta Sahagún
Moonbootica
Whew, what a relief: Mexicans aren't racists at all.
Moonbootica is feeding her addiction again!
At this point, you really need to really convince me that she was born in a remote part of Mexico, asumming an Indios, and became the "president's wife of Mexico"?
That's incredulous.
nah
QL -- just scanning up the thread and saw your note about Sen. Reid's stroke. Looks mild, thank goodness, but TIAs tend to be recurring, don't they?
So Fox marries a woman from a remote village in Mexican culture? That wouldn't happen.
Incog -- what got you wound up about Mexicans this morning?
a remote village in Mexican culture
This phrase is utterly meaningless.
That's not Cinderella there.
And good morning to you, Virginia!
Incog -- what got you wound up about Mexicans this morning?
Virginia
I've just spent a lot of time in Mexico.
Hi Virginia:
Thankfully, I know almost nothing about strokes. It's just that I'm sure it will weaken him somewhat and he has been pretty darn good. Surprise, surprise. I wonder who is next in line to assume the leadership.
Incog -- what got you wound up about Mexicans this morning?
Virginia
I've just spent a lot of time in Mexico.
Ô¿Ô
Oy.
He's been in Mexico and so doesn't like Mexicans.
He's been in the Middle East and so doesn't like Arabs.
The phrase "ugly American" springs, unbidden, to mind.
Iraq Sunni party workers killed
Three members of Iraq's main Sunni Arab political party have been abducted and killed in the northern city of Mosul.
The Iraqi Islamic Party members were seized as they put up posters urging Sunnis to vote in a referendum planned later this year on a new constitution.
Politicians are still wrangling over the draft constitution, ahead of an extended deadline to present it to parliament for approval.
Meanwhile, two Iraqis were reported killed by a roadside bomb near Tikrit.
Vicente Fox didn't marry some remote villager from some outlying Mexican province or village.
QL -- I have a cousin who's had a bunch of them. The individual effects are very slight, but cumulatively they're pretty disabling (his memory is shot). However, he might be unusual because they started when he was much younger than Sen. Reid.
Can't wait to hear the compassion pouring from the wingnuts!
wingers have no idea what compassion is.
its all about attacking their opponent.
rorschach has once again taught me something new: Mexicans aren't racists, despite what I've seen with my own lying eyes.
:::fart:::
rorschach has once again taught me something new: Mexicans aren't racists,
Show where I claimed that.
1533, "defense, justification," from L.L. apologia, from Gk. apologia "a speech in defense," from apologeisthai "to speak in one's defense," from apologos "an account, story," from apo- "from, off" (see apo-) + logos "speech." The original Eng. sense of "self-justification" yielded a meaning "frank expression of regret for wrong done," first recorded 1594, but it was not the main sense until 18c. The old sense tends to emerge in Latin form apologia (first attested 1784), especially since J.H. Newman's "Apologia pro Vita Sua" (1864). The Gk. equivalent of apologize (1725 in the modern sense of "acknowledge and express regret"), apologizesthai, meant simply "to give an account."
rorschach, you really are a complete fucking idiot.
Jadoon invites Chinese companies to participate in cross border pipelines
ISLAMABAD: Federal Minister for Petroleum and Natural Resources Amanullah Khan Jadoon has invited the Chinese Petroleum Engineering and Construction Corporation (CPECC) to participate in the forthcoming cross border gas pipeline projects, construction of gas storage and exploration activities for the mutual advantage.
" Pakistan's oil and gas sector has been fully opened for local and foreign investors," he stated this while talking to the China Petroleum Engineering and Construction (Group) Corporation delegation headed by the Executive Director Ms. Zhoung accompanied by Director (construction) Quoe who called on him here on Friday.
They exchanged views on investment opportunities in the oil and gas sector.
During the meeting, the delegation briefed the minister about China Petroleum Engineering and Construction Corporation worldwide oil and gas activities.
Launcher found after Jordan rocket attack
Jordanian authorities have found the launcher that fired three Katyusha rockets from a hilltop warehouse.
The rockets included one that narrowly missed a US naval ship docked at the Red Sea resort of Aqaba.
The most serious strike against the US navy since the USS Cole bombing in Yemen nearly five years ago killed a Jordanian soldier on Friday, wounded another and sparked a nationwide manhunt for the culprits.
Two other rockets were fired towards Israel from the same warehouse, which is in the hills on Aqaba's northern edge about eight km from the port.
And while I'm at it, you don't know crap about what it means to be gay in your gay bar now married to a woman, so fuck off.
Oops. The Rorsach ~ Incog fight continues.
Incog -- Since is just the few of us here, I'm wondering if you'd mind telling me: Do you take or are you supposed to take an anti-depressant? Because you get onto these tears about stuff and have absolutely no perspective or sense of proportion about them, and can't seem to back off or change the subject. It looks like OCD or OCPD when you do it. And then, sometimes, you appear to be more rational and able to have an adult conversation. I'm just asking because you can't seem to get a grip on yourself until you get banned.
Or are you drunk? Or both?
I'm not trying to be cruel; I'm genuinely curious.
rorschach, you really are a complete fucking idiot.
Ô¿Ô
Why do you say that, compadre? It's really rather rude, you know.
moon-- as someone observed yesterday, the ol' flypaper doesn't seem to be as sticky as one would have hoped.
Would any of you heteors like to be lorded over as an expert by a hetero serving drinks at a hetero bar?
Virginia ~ thats very true.
the Bush junta has no policy, they just make shit up basically.
Well this is just fun. Judge Crater''s remains may have been found.
I'm not trying to be cruel; I'm genuinely curious.
Virginia
And you've discounted the notion that it's willful and intentional?
My great grandfather emigrated here back around the 1880's from France and immediately his brother was able to get him a job as a fireman. I don't know how it worked back then, but have always assumed there must have been a Tamany connection. How the French got to be innies I have no idea.
I'm just asking because you can't seem to get a grip on yourself until you get banned.
Or are you drunk? Or both?
ha ha
And you've discounted the notion that it's willful and intentional?
Tom - Daai Tou Laam
Maybe I can't imagine why someone who appears to really need contact with like-minded people would intentionally alienate them. Because it seems, you know, stupid.
power of patronage.
And you've discounted the notion that it's willful and intentional?
Tom - Daai Tou Laam
Would that be in some sort of esoteric sorta way?
Maybe I can't imagine why someone who appears to really need contact with like-minded people would intentionally alienate them. Because it seems, you know, stupid.
Virginia
You're not those like me. I despise you heteros for what you've done to us, I don't see any other gay person disputing me after all this time. Only you heteros who are uncomfortable.
I repeat:
rorschach, you really are a complete fucking idiot.
Ô¿Ô
Why do you say that, compadre? It's really rather rude, you know.
6 year old girl falls 150 feet in Yorkshire. Cuts and bruises, but nothing major.
fuck you
Hey, Ô¿Ô. Wanted to check... when you fry okra, do you use seasoned flour, or corn meal thats seasoned?
Just askin'.
Because it seems, you know, stupid.
Virginia
So does trolling. But...
Morning everyone, Just finished reading the thread. Interesting.
You're not those like me. I despise you heteros for what you've done to us, I don't see any other gay person disputing me after all this time. Only you heteros who are uncomfortable.
I am queer. I have been beaten for being queer. I have beaten homophobes off my customers while bartending at a gay bar in New Orleans. And was nearly shot doing same.
I dispute you.
That's interesting, QL, both the Crater story and your ancestor's immigration story. Were people in love with French culture in that era? There was a huge amount of Irish immigration from 1820 on, and IIRC they weren't so welcome (maybe because of the huge numbers?). But then at some point the Irish cop seems to have become a stereotype.
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OK. Whatever.
I'm going to the deli for a bagel. See y'all in a few.
Ba®ndog, I'm not Incog, but I do fry okra. I use mostly flour and a bit of yellow cornmeal with salt and pepper.
This is a great time of the year for fried okra and fresh tomatoes.
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But then at some point the Irish cop seems to have become a stereotype.
Virginia
The story of the Democratic Party machine in Boston. {and I'm guessing New York as well.}
And rorschach... dontcha get tired of disputing incog for the umpteenth time? The first time is cute. The second... not so cute. The hundreth... *yawn*
Thees perro de lo granero,
he has a how-joo-say "good question".
Eet would be muy interesante to know the answerrr.
so.
Yeah mer, I have tomatos coming out of all corners right now. I'm making gallon + batches of salsa every week. (I cook it down so it's nice and thick too)
Anyone want some cayennes, hot hungarian or super hot chili peppers?
Got them by the bag fulls.
And rorschach... dontcha get tired of disputing incog for the umpteenth time? The first time is cute. The second... not so cute. The hundreth... *yawn*
Tom - Daai Tou Laam
Point taken. I shall desist. It's just hard, when he gets personal--he's called my wife a "beard," for fuck's sake.
Anyway.
Hey, Ô¿Ô. Wanted to check... when you fry okra, do you use seasoned flour, or corn meal thats seasoned?
Just askin'.
Ba®ndog
No, you don't use anything "seasoned." Just plain flour and yellow corn meal deep fried. About 1/3 flour to 2/3 corn meal.
Wow. 276 comments on a 3:20 am thread? Y'all are fired up.
Hey, good morning, and I just heard on AAR news that Bob Costas refused to guest-host Larry King Live last night because the topic was Natalee Holloway. He said he offered several alternatives and the producers insisted on the Aruba story, so he basically said go fuck yourself and I think they had no show--or a rerun.
Good for Bob!
Eli,
If you're still up and still around, drop me an email if you're going to be nearer to Los Angeles than you are.
I'd break my neck and speed laws to have coffee or lunch with you.
Point taken. I shall desist. It's just hard, when he gets personal--he's called my wife a "beard," for fuck's sake.
Anyway.
rorschach
Given all that Tedly/AM threw at my wife here, I understand. But it tells ya that it's just thrashing about again looking for something to make waves.
And incog has acknowledged liking to make waves and create trouble.
I'm pretty sure the Irish had a lock on civil service and patronage in NYC. However, there was probably a French enclave in the city that managed to get a share because my great grandmother was also French and he was a cop.
There's another way to fry okra my mom did growing up but I would have to kill you all if I shared it.
Tom--
True that. And what happened to you sucked.
I will resort to my bi kittens and gay military penguins.
Uhm. Great grandma's hubby was a cop. Or the other great grandpa.
You don't really expect me to make quite so much sense so early in the morning.
ql
And incog has acknowledged liking to make waves and create trouble.
Tom - Daai Tou Laam
What's wrong with creating "trouble"?
But I digress. Better get back to politics y'all or hesiod will come and yell at us.
"About 1/3 flour to 2/3 corn meal."
--Ô¿Ô
I'll try that next time.
Jeez, went to read the interview over at Digby's. Makes me not want to leave my house. Ever.
But I digress. Better get back to politics y'all or hesiod will come and yell at us.
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Whose birthday is it? And what kitty litter do you prefer?
Ror,
New gravy reminds me of Hobbes wearing an old LA Rams football helmet.
Tom--
True that. And what happened to you sucked.
rorschach
I don't worry 'bout it much. I understand that it's a lame ass attempt to get at me. But in the end, the comments are empty and hollow.
Really brainless folks go for the cheap hollow dig like that.
mmm fried okra - a nice thought before breakfast.
thanks for the politics break, QL - I'm not ready to wake up and remember where we are....
I know some people that use "Kentucky Colonel" seasoned flour - or variants thereof, instead of plain flour to fry okra in, with corn meal.
It's great for other stuff, but I wasn't really sure about okra, since it's a fairly delicate flavor.
Clean sheets, folks.
Really brainless folks go for the cheap hollow dig like that.
Tom - Daai Tou Laam
Po thing.
Yoo can also bread okra with a simple mixture including some dry grits for cruchy.
crunchy
Dried grits... that sounds interesting. I suppose ya dredge them in eggs first?
What kind of a "simple mixture?"
Just bread crumbs and grits?
What kind of oil do you use?
I'd think corn myself, if not lard.
Dried grits... that sounds interesting. I suppose ya dredge them in eggs first?
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What kind of a "simple mixture?"
Just bread crumbs and grits?
What kind of oil do you use?
mer |
Nah, don't get all complicated with it. No "egg mixture," Just lightly sprinkle some grits on it. That's what I do. Just yellow corn meal, flour and lightly grits meal to give it more crunchyness from frying. But that's just moi.
I would have to show you but hold.....
That wouldn't be instant grits, either.
No self respecting Southerner eats instant grits. Yes, my family is from Central City, Kentucky. I like grits, and don't use instant grits - and won't eat instant grits.
Instant grits taste like mush.
"About 1/3 flour to 2/3 corn meal."
--Ô¿Ô
That's the way my mama breaded okra to fry it. As does my better half, who got the recipe from the former.
Haven't ever had okra with grits in the breading. I will try it though.
breaded
should be breads as my mother is still frying okra.
Hey Billy - you comin' to Lansing anytime again in the future?
We'd have to get together and pound back a few, and imbibe on some other endeavors.
Take a small container and fill it mostly yellow corn meal, some white flour for binding and sprinkle some dried grits. Frozen but de-thawed okra works best. Yeah, I know but regular okra is different and has to be cooked a couple of other ways. If you want to deep fry it, shake it all in that container and drop it in the lipids.
Don't heavily do it with the dried grits. Just sprinkle a little with it.
Instant grits taste like mush.
mer
Yeah, and you're right, a microwave potato is crap compared to an oven-baked creamy one. World of difference.
anyways
We'd have to get together and pound back a few, and imbibe on some other endeavors.
bd - I haven't been in over 30 years, but me betta half still has kinfolk in and around Grand Rapids and one of my best buddies lives in Ann Arbor.
I've been think of heading up there, If I do, I promise I'll look you up and take you up on your offer.
OT - You would be laughing at me now as I am building a set of box steps to the back door to the laundry room. Today, I get to take them off, plane about a quarter inch off the front as I didn't secure the forms properly when I poured the pad.
Such is the lot of a jackleg. I'm mightily impressed with carpenters that know their shit.
Oh and thanks for the tip on the grits, incog.
I agree on the 'taters, even tho I've only eaten about 2 since the first of the year.
Hey man, shit happens ya know? I've done way stupid shit in my day.
As a prime example, www.wheatlandmusic.org - I was one of the 3 crewleaders on the stage project in 1998, all volunteer. 4 of us did the stonework you (may) see along the foundation of it. We did get paid for that part. We did that one Sundays. Saturdays were scheduled stage work days.
Red and I built the back wall to the stage in oh, maybe an hour and 1/2. We had the forethought to use screws as opposed to nails for added strength over time. Well, we gathered the guys and sat the wall (a critical piece in the structure, since the entire roofline starts from that point)... only to find that we'd built it 1 1/2" too tall. We neglected to deduct the bottom plate in our original measurement.
Off it came, out came the screws... we cut the inch and a half, and put it back together, and resat the wall.
Sucked, and still is a source of ribbing around the building crew at festival - all in good spirit though.
We neglected to deduct the bottom plate in our original measurement.
I do that all the time. Did it the other day as a matter of fact. Second step is 20", so I cut the sides 20". Got the second step in place, and the tread on the first step was only 8.5", not the 10" I planned. What the fuck? Oh, yeah, the 1.5" thickness of the front board. Fuck.
As to the use of screws - I love screws. That way I can take apart my fuckups and not destroy the wood.
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