HULK SMASH!!!
There is no evidence that the Busheviks were NOT given this information, is there?
ATTA EFFING TURK!!!
They had some agenda for reviving this, and they figured they could do so by screaming ATTA! ATTA!
Jeebus Christ, it's Saturday you don't have to yell.
Oh, nevermind.
Next story? Did you hear the one from Watertiger about how two teenagers meaning to get Santorum to sign a book by a gay writer got hustled out by a state trooper who threatened to throw them in jail?
Their attempt to smear the Clinton admin with their "Able Danger" scam would be desperately funny if it were not so, well, desperate.
I never understood how this story was a "win" for the right. The more that comes out, the worse it looks for the Bush admin.
If the info was passed on, why wasn't it acted on?
If the commission willfully ignored it in the report, no one comes off looking good.
I guess the wingnuts thought they could spin this into a win via the fiction that Gorelick erected a wall. It's a veritable Rube Goldberg contraption of spun lies/fictions.
BTW, I think the Sheehan incident changed the tone of discourse. It seems much more common to publicly discuss Iraq as a disaster.
MUST...
BLAME...
THE...
CLENIS!
Preparing scare charts is one of Curt "I-can-speak-Russian-but-they-don't-understand-me" Weldon's specialties.
Morning moonbats. Quick blogwhore and then I am done for the day. Australian soldiers to practice being tortured with dogs, blindfolding, stripping, sexual humiliation for up to 3 hours. Just in case, ummm the bad guys get em.
this guy sounds like he's nuts enough to be appointed to a top bush adminstration post.
or maybe he'll just get a medal of freedom honor.
The Bush Administration, it really is like ridin' a bike
That is funny attaturk. You need to photoshop a dangerous terrestrial based pretzel in though
Yes, the real able "able danger" was the Clenis.
Morning, Moonbatriots.
I agree with tubino -- never understood how this was supposed to make the Bushies look good except as a well-if-Clenis-had-caught-him-we-wouldn't-have-
had-to-catch-him-and-our-failure-to-do-that-
wouldn't-have-led-to-9/11 kinda thing. The fact remains: W sat on his ass for 8 months and then failed to respond in any way to the Aug 6 PDB.
That is funny attaturk. You need to photoshop a dangerous terrestrial based pretzel in though
trifecta
RIGHT YOU ARE!
people who were convinced of anything by this whole fairy tale to begin with aren't going to be troubled by any annoying little details such as facts.
i thought this thing had the "flying saucer nazis from the center of the earth!" ring to it...
Next story?
Oh, like the next story that turns out to be false, but that die-hard Repubs will continue to use to make their points.
OT, but Gilliard asks: "What Did You Do In the War, Jonah?"
Personally, I still am betting Able Danger ID'ed Atta well before 9/11 and that the defense department squashed further investigation into him. Journalist Dan Hopsicker did his own investigation into Atta in Florida and found a serious conflict with the official story of when Atta came into the US. Moreover, Atta reportedly trained at a US military bases. But this story was squashed after 9/11, just like most leads showing US government complicity in 9/11 have been ignored and/or censored.
I'm getting tired of folks comparing Busheviks to Nazis
i mean, this is a great country...
what kind of treasonous Murka hater does not believe the US would/could NOT devise its own unique, idiosyncratic, vicious brand of fascism?
I mean, wtf? this is a great country, and our native fascism should at least surpass its predecessors, doncha think?
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Those freedom-hating pretzels again!
I think Mr. Salty should be put on double-secret probation.
This story reminds me of the endless right-wing attempts to blame FDR for Pearl Harbor -- but at least FDR was President when it happened.
i heard from a friend of my cousin who heard from a ex of his former boss who heard it from the cocaine addicted secretary of an alcoholic congressman who heard it directly from Vincent Foster that Bill Clinton had lunch with Osama Bin Laden on August 12, 1997, while visiting Pakistan.
there supposedly are photos.
What was the whole point of this story?
Who were they trying to smear?
The right doesn't support someone or something unless they sense a smear being perpetrated by democrats, so what were they afraid was going to happen?
I for one missed the entire point of this able danger story other than the fact they identified Atta before 9/11, but then stories of how some members of the 9/11 hijackers were discovered prior to 9/11 but were not followed up on cause the FBI/CIA were told to back off, were numerous and plenty.
MYOB'
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What was the whole point of this story?
IMO they were trying to drown out the Cindy Sheehan story with another 911 diversion.
I'm betting Able Danger never existed.
maybe Atta should of had a big pink neon sign above him saying 'I'm a terrorist arrest me now!" 
Um ... no I don't find it silly.
Someone found a loose thread and pointed it out.
That loose thread is being pulled on, fidgeted with, and tugged on.
Call me tin-foil hatted, but I think Able Danger
is a subject that Rumsfeld and Cheney don't want
investigated.
Just asking but - what would our country look
like if it learned that members of our gov't
had fore-knowledge of the 9/11 attacks ?
Why does the guy who was Weldon's source remind me of Gary Aldrich? Oh, yeah, it's because they're both lying wingnuts.
This'll make Sean Hannity weep in his Cheerios. He was so hoping to Ssmear Clinton (again) with this story.
Memo to the right: It is no longer necessary to attempt to blame any of this on Bill Clinton. The collective American memory now squarely blames W for this "war."
If you keep this shit up, we'll print more "When Clinton Lied, No One Died" bumper snickers and people can install these golden oldies right beside the new issues that read...
THE ROAD TO HELL IS PAVED WITH REPUBLICANS
Someone please point me to where the right wing outrage over shoddy journalism is.
you kick butt, spook!
I'm getting tired of folks comparing Busheviks to Nazis
Well, they ARE!
Get OVER it.
The Bush Regime was behind 9-11 anyway.
The rest of it is just the Repugs trying to blow smoke up the asses of Americans.
Is ATTA! ATTA! similar to YATTA! YATTA! ?
Dan Rather was accused of using documents which Richard Thornburgh found could not be proven as either real or forgeries. We were told it was all an effort to boost ratings and smear the president. We heard about it for months.
Now Weldon has hyping a story that CAN BE disproven in order to boost his book sales point blame at Clinton. I wonder how much coverage this correction will get.
I'm sure CNN will report that Shaffer's changed his story. After all, they've given the initial version plenty of air time. They'll do the right thing...I'm sure...any minute now...no doubt...sure they will...
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Able Danger is a ruse item. Unimpeachable sources have confirmed this.
They want to hold a 'hearing' over something that is not an item for the chance to loophole the law and provide immunity to people directly linked to Plame's outing.
Shoot this down every time it comes up.
What we do know, what has never been disputed, is that the Bush junta received, on August 6, 2001, a document with a title that would have startled most people:
Bin Laden Determined to Strike Inside United States
The document specifically mentioned bin Laden's plans to hijack domestic flights in the US.
So, with this giant flashing neon sign of a warning in their hands, George W. "Caligula" Bush, Condi "KindaSleazy" Rice, Donald "Friend of Dictators Everywhere" Rumsfeld, Dick "Dick" Cheney, and all their friends...
...did nothing.
I'm with you, Terry C. Why is it that we give Bush a pass on 9/11? The more I see, the more I am beginning to believe the Bushies were behind it. Training exercises that day at the same time? Now we're finding out that Tony Blair's government was 'conducting training exercises' in the same areas as the subway explosions. Yeah, right.
is that memo, seraphiel, similar to the this story detailing clinton administration meeting directly with the taliban?
oh wait, that must be a fake story. or just one sandy berger forgot to stuff down his pants while at the national archive.
is that memo, seraphiel, similar to the this story detailing clinton administration meeting directly with the taliban?
Interesting story.
It actually goes in depth into some of the ways the Clinton administration tried to get bin Laden into custody. It wasn't enough, obviously, but they were trying something.
This is in contrast to the current occupiers of the White House, who, despite some fairly specific and urgent warnings, did nothing.
That is why 9/11 happened on George W. Bush's watch, instead of Bill Clinton's.
Bush was in the White House when that August 6, 2001 document came in.
NOT Bill Clinton.
"They had some agenda for reviving this, and they figured they could do so by screaming ATTA! ATTA! despite the fact that they'd never bothered to tell anyone they'd identified him before. Now, it looks like they didn't. Oh well. Next story?" - Atrios.
Next story? What happened to the "Why didnt Bush get Osama" meme you were promoting for months?
Oh yes, that is right. Because the last 2 presidents both dropping the ball make your cheap smear attempts more difficult.
Oh well. On to the next attack. Someone get out Atrios's book of logical fallacies, time to pick a new one.
See Christine Breitweiser (sp?) post at HuffingtonPost. When will the cat finally be out of the bag on 9/11 complicity? Don't know why they let Weldon and Shaffer come out with this except perhaps to divert blame to Clinton and preempt some of the more damaging revelations which could be imminent.
YEAH! ATTICA! ATTICA! ATTICA!
Oh, I'm sorry, I thought this was a Dog Day Afternoon appreciation thread.
My bad. Carry on.
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