I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

Gravatartwice?

hoooognu?


Gravatarwhiny sensitive victim politics of conservatives is really pathetic.

YES. IOKIYAR. I get this all the time. Whining is bad if it is from the left. Fighting back is vicious if it is from the left. If this shit is from the wingnuts it's patriotic.


GravatarBut you are my kind of traitor, a Thomas Paine of the blogosphere!
(And I mean that only in a manly sense of course)


GravatarExcellent call, long overdue.

And frankly I'd like to see a lot more insistence -- loud and shrill if it takes it -- by the Dems on repubs admitting being wrong.

There is SO MUCH to work with!


GravatarRemember: it's only treason if Republicans disagree with it.


GravatarIs Podhoretz getting shrill?

Whiny little bitch.


GravatarLife is so much easier when you have no conscience or shame.


GravatarUm, er, or so I've heard.


GravatarWhy write about something "you don't understand." Oh, right. That would mean there'd be no wingnut blogs at all.


Gravatarwingers have such thin skin.

they make everything into a melodrama.


GravatarBush's recycled rational for this clusterfuck of a war:

"They know that if we do not confront these evil men abroad, we will have to face them one day in our own cities and streets, and they know that the safety and security of every American is at stake in this war, and they know we will prevail."

Pathetic.....


GravatarSo is JPod the Waaaaaaaahnker Of The Day?


GravatarIs it time to Fuck Bush, and fuck him hard?

Hope he goes on his ass today.


Gravatar"They know that if we do not confront these evil men abroad, we will have to face them one day in our own cities and streets--"

I'm willing to start in Crawford, but we can move it to Washington, DC, if George is in the mood.


Gravatarthe victimhood of wingers gets very tiring, even when their top of the pile all they can do is moan, its really quite pathetic...


GravatarMorning batties. The sun rose in the east, and Republicans are still thin skinned, whiners and wankers.

Nothing's changed, damn it. I need coffee.


Gravatar"They know that if we do not confront these evil men abroad, we will have to face them one day in our own cities and streets--"

I'm willing to start in Crawford, but we can move it to Washington, DC, if George is in the mood.


Cindy tried that, and he wouldn't cooperate.


GravatarOT ~

My friends were working hard to convince me that Condi will be the '08 Presidential candidate from the right...at a minimum, she'll have the VP slot.

I think they're way wrong here, but they're convinced the the Republicans will use her to draw more African Americans into the party.

I think they're wrong because Condi's lies and missteps are easy to track. Hit her with her own words and deeds and she's toast.

What are the chances that this could turn into a reality?


GravatarAnybody see Sheehan on Bill Maher
last night?


How was she?


GravatarWould you like some cheese with your whine, Little Poddy-Pod?


GravatarAnyone see Linda Chavez's column today wherein she's trashing and lying about Cindy Sheehan? She's blaming the media for giving Cindy a "pass."

They never stop.


GravatarAtrios,

Come now, we wouldn't want to be shrill. We might disturb David Ignatius.


GravatarVicki,

Condi is awful under pressure. When the 16 words issue came out, she was stuttering, and doing a Dan Quayle deer in the headlights impersonation. No way does Condi run a campaign for major office. She isn't up to it.

Oh and Steve, Cindi Sheehan wasn't on last night due to her mom's health. Paul Hackett replaced her.


GravatarI hear and obey.


GravatarAtrios, the title of this post has me humming a Christmas tune:

"Wankers we have heard on high
Lowly whining o'er the plain..."


GravatarAnyone see Linda Chavez's column today wherein she's trashing and lying about Cindy Sheehan? She's blaming the media for giving Cindy a "pass."

They never stop.
Vicki


Linda Chavez? THe double token of the Reagan Regime?

The one who used Affirmative Action to get where she is, but doesn't want anyone else to benefit from it.

The one that Hispanic women can't stand?

The one who reamed Kimba Wood out over Nanniegate but was prevented from taking a cabinet position with the Bush regime because she was caught doing the same thing?


GravatarAtrios, your skin's gotten thicker because of all that abuse. See, it's toughened you up.

Well, there's also the fact that you aren't afraid of facts and have a fairly accurate bullshit meter.


GravatarI think they're way wrong here, but they're convinced the the Republicans will use her to draw more African Americans into the party.

If this is the intent, they are delusional.


GravatarPod People Suck!


GravatarPoddy's dad Norman is one the whiniest, most self-pitying bitches in the entire history of the neocon "movement". Like father, like scumbag son.


Gravatar"Condi is awful under pressure. When the 16 words issue came out, she was stuttering, and doing a Dan Quayle deer in the headlights impersonation"


KindaSleazy is awful.

Period!


GravatarAnybody see Sheehan on Bill Maher
last night?


IIRC she was unable to make it due to mothers illness, and paul hackett was the replacement guest.

I did not actually see the show, just something I read somewhere....


GravatarWell, there's also the fact that you aren't afraid of facts and have a fairly accurate bullshit meter.

Please, don't say the F-word, it makes me break out all over.


GravatarPod: Look, guys. I said at the start of the article I didn't know what the fuck I was talking about. You see us asswipes have to make up stupid reasons for our masters to have known about terrorists for a year and not have done anything about it. We can't admit that we really wanted a "Pearl Harbor type event" so we could have a good excuse to turn America into a christofacist state. You can't "run on the war" without a war, right? Now excuse me, but the Cheeto dust on my winky is starting to burn.


GravatarJPod isn't apologizing for shit. He never really says he mischaracterized the Gorelick memo. Thanks, republitard, for once again modeling superior conservative values and showing how the "adults" behave when they're "in charge"!

What a scaife.


GravatarI've had a couple of e-mail exchanges
with the Pod, and I can report
he's one of the most thin-skinned,
defensive assholes on earth.


GravatarChimpy:

"They know that if we do not confront these evil men abroad, we will have to face them one day in our own cities and streets, and they know that the safety and security of every American is at stake in this war, and they know we will prevail."

But won't we spot them as they row across the Atlantic?


GravatarVicki

I doubt they'd run Condi -- in their shrivelled little hearts (which they keep safely hidden in canopic jars in their secret mausoleums), they know a Black woman candidate would not play well with their base. But, if they did, the VP debates would be fun to watch -- in her own way, Condi's as hopeless thinking and speaking spontaneously as der Chimpenfuehrer.


GravatarCondi will be the '08 Presidential candidate from the right...at a minimum, she'll have the VP slot.



The folks down in Jebusland will never vote for her.

NO matter what party she belongs to or how much education she has, to them she is still "that niggrah wench."


GravatarSaid it before, will say it again.

Conservatives:
1. Control both houses of Congress
2. Appointed 7 of 9 supreme court justices
3. Control the Executive branch
4. Control HUGE hunks of the main stream media
5. Have had a chokehold on the terms of the debate between left and right
6. Control most of the corporate power in the world
7. Control "christianity" (at least their version of it and the MSM lets them get away with calling that what it means to be Christian)

And this is NOT enough power for them to feel secure. It is pretty obvious that nothing will ever make them secure.


Gravatar Anybody see Sheehan on Bill Maher
last night?

She wasn't on, replaced by Paul Hackett due to her mother's stroke. Hackett was good, but a pretty weak show, overall.


GravatarTerry C

~ Yeah, I know. It's amazing to me anyone publishes her stuff, it's always awful.

Fuck, with today's standards, I oughta be syndicated nationwide. All i have to do is make shit up and call people names.

Voila! I'm a columnist.


GravatarThey never stop

That's a big part of their success, don't you think? They keep smearing long after people have stopped arguing about it. It makes it look like they won the argument. They're still doing it with Michael Moore.


GravatarThose wascally evil do'ers. Never doing exactly what Chimpy thinks they will. Such dickens.

Damn, we are screwed until January 09.


GravatarNO matter what party she belongs to or how much education she has, to them she is still "that niggrah wench."

The Republicans done gone and nominated the help!

Anyway, when was the last time a Sec'y Of State was nominated for prez, much less elected?


Gravatar
But won't we spot them as they row across the Atlantic?


Rickey,

our oceans no longer protect us.

The preznit said so during one of the debates.
.


Gravatarnorah odonnell to ken mehlman, hardball, august 18:

O‘DONNELL: I know, of course, you are the chairman of the Republican Party. You know President Bush. I‘ve covered President Bush. How do you think he looks at some of this criticism out there? I would think the president would say this is a bunch of ninnies doing a lot of hand wringing. Do you think that‘s how he sees this criticism?


Gravatar2. Appointed 7 of 9 supreme court justices

Mmm... spandex...


Gravatar4. Control HUGE hunks of the main stream media

Other than a handful of print publications, tell me what they do not control?


GravatarI get called a traitor several times a day. The goddamn whiny sensitive victim politics of conservatives is really pathetic.



I really don't care what these morons call me.

People with IQs that low - their opinions of me don't count.

(extends middle finger)

Screw 'em!


GravatarAnyway, when was the last time...

I don't put anything past this bunch of thugs.


GravatarAnyway, when was the last time a Sec'y Of State was nominated for prez, much less elected?
Eli


That's exactly what I said to my friends.

Jefferson ~ was he the last? I'll have to research it, I don't remember.


GravatarDamn, we are screwed until January 09.

Long after, my freind, long after.


GravatarPlease, don't say the F-word, it makes me break out all over.

By the F word, I assume you mean "fairly" because the reason I visit this site is because Atrios has a very accurate BS detector.


GravatarAnybody see Sheehan on Bill Maher
last night?


How was she?
steve simels


She wasn't on.

They had Paul Hackett on.

All Maher did was defend Little Bitch Georgie.

"He can't be that stupid. After all, he's been elected twice to the nation's highest office....."

Maher is such an asshole!


GravatarWhora O'Donnell is just that:

A Whore for Bush.


GravatarThe big modern curse though is the House and Senate. Since JFK in 60, we have gone 45 years without a congress critter getting directly elected President.


GravatarI would think the president would say this is a bunch of ninnies doing a lot of hand wringing. Do you think that‘s how he sees this criticism?

here's how the fucker sees this critcism:









(lots of empty space here)













But then sociopaths are always like this--


GravatarBut won't we spot them as they row across the Atlantic?

I saw them from the plane!!! They are about half-way through the ocean.


GravatarHouston, beware!


GravatarI get called a traitor several times a day.

Yeah, but the truth hurts more.


Gravatar"I would think the president would say this is a bunch of ninnies doing a lot of hand wringing. Do you think that‘s how he sees this criticism?"

Oh my god.

At least they finally found another way to do the "some people say" rag.


GravatarWell, it's rumored that Bruce will make an unannounced appearance at the Clearwater Festival in Asbury Park, so I think I'll go check it out.


GravatarWell, not the only reason. There are the many fine commentors to consider.


GravatarYeah, but the truth hurts more.

I wouldn't know; I hardly ever hear it.


GravatarTo be honest, I used to be a very thin-complexioned goddess. The blog life has changed me into a foaming-at-the-mouth, callous and uncaring one. Much more fun this way.


Gravatar(well, except here, of course...)


GravatarThe new "F" words:

Fair and Fact.

Makes Republicans pee in their lying pants.


GravatarMy friends were working hard to convince me that Condi will be the '08 Presidential candidate from the right...at a minimum, she'll have the VP slot.

Safest bet in the world: the 2008 Republican national ticket will consist of two wealthy middle-aged white guys.


GravatarI think they're way wrong here, but they're convinced the the Republicans will use her to draw more African Americans into the party.

If this is the intent, they are delusional.
PhilosopherKing™ Embigulator


From all indications, African-Americans have no use for her!


GravatarI regret the slight transgression that may have occurred in.....


Gravatar To be honest, I used to be a very thin-complexioned goddess. The blog life has changed me into a foaming-at-the-mouth, callous and uncaring one. Much more fun this way.
Echidne of the snakes


And in all your incarnations, you are adored.


GravatarSafest bet in the world: the 2008 Republican national ticket will consist of two wealthy middle-aged white guys.
Ridnik Chrome


And Jeb is going to be one of them!


GravatarPodhoretz is the guy who was Novakula's role model. He stormed off the set of Crossfire once when Michael Kinsley was grilling him. Michael Kinsley!!! If you can't handle Michael Kinsley, you have no right to call yourself a pundit.


GravatarWell, it's rumored that Bruce will make an unannounced appearance at the Clearwater Festival in Asbury Park, so I think I'll go check it out.

And don't forget Dorothy Parker Day tomorrow in Long Branch!


GravatarThe new "F" words:

Fair and Fact.

Makes Republicans pee in their lying pants.
Vicki

They don't like "feminist" either!


Gravatarrorschach

I've pointed it out here before: Minutemen is what Sinclair Lewis called the brownshirt brigades in It Can't Happen Here.

Coincidence?


GravatarFair and Fact.

Makes Republicans pee in their lying pants.


Now, let's be fair: they do that on purpose. To put out the fire.


GravatarBy the F word, I assume you mean "fairly" because the reason I visit this site is because Atrios has a very accurate BS detector.

As do most people who post here...


GravatarRorschach, you must stop now. I'm going to grow arrogant over and beyond what can be reasonably expected from us divines.


GravatarThey don't like "feminist" either!

I love feminist ether! Gets ya high, and derails your masculinity for a while.


GravatarRorschach, you must stop now. I'm going to grow arrogant over and beyond what can be reasonably expected from us divines.
Echidne of the snakes


Yes'm.


GravatarSpeaking of Springsteen, anybody
read the piece in Esquire?


GravatarPodhoretz is the guy who was Novakula's role model. He stormed off the set of Crossfire once when Michael Kinsley was grilling him. Michael Kinsley!!! If you can't handle Michael Kinsley, you have no right to call yourself a pundit.
trifecta


And, he bragged about it recently, after Novak did it. As if he was a trendsetter, a real maverick. The hilarious part to me is that he is getting his ass handed to him pretty much on a regular basis over there. Wonder if Wolcott has anything to say about the latest adventures of Jpod?


Gravatar"4. Control HUGE hunks of the main stream media

Other than a handful of print publications, tell me what they do not control?"

Point taken. Can't, really. I phrased it that way for brevity.


Gravatar
From all indications, African-Americans have no use for her!


Precisely, and how do you think crackerstani's will respond.

They are likely to loose far more dixie-values voters than gain african american ones.

Safest bet in the world: the 2008 Republican national ticket will consist of two wealthy middle-aged white guys.

Bingo, and smart money takes the same bet on the other side.
.


GravatarFuck, with today's standards, I oughta be syndicated nationwide. All i have to do is make shit up and call people names.

Heck, you do that now.

Morning, my little self-important gasbags!

I've missed you.


Gravatar"I would think the president would say this is a bunch of ninnies doing a lot of hand wringing. Do you think that‘s how he sees this criticism?"

There's the "liberal media" again, carrying Bush's water for him just like they did in the lead up to the war. Shameless fuckers....


GravatarDamn, we are screwed until January 09.
trifecta


fergetaboutit. Did you read Krugman yesterday. They aint going nowhere. They know that at the very least,they'll wind up in prison, if not shot for treason.

Our current political leaders would suffer greatly if either house of Congress changed hands in 2006, or if the presidency changed hands in 2008. The lids would come off all the simmering scandals, from the selling of the Iraq war to profiteering by politically connected companies. The Republicans will be strongly tempted to make sure that they win those elections by any means necessary. And everything we've seen suggests that they will give in to that temptation.

QL


GravatarSpeaking of Springsteen, anybody
read the piece in Esquire?


No, is it online?


GravatarSlamming Gorelick for the "wall" is ridiculous. I came across testimony from Patrick Fitzgerald (the CIA leak prosecutor) about the wall and problems it caused in 1993.

LINK

"What is ironic is that this is an example of where the wall came into play where both criminal and intelligence investigations existed. In many other cases, the wall prevented criminal cases from being opened or pursued at all. In 1993, after the World Trade Center bombing, conspirators, including Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman, planned to bomb the Holland and Lincoln tunnels, the FBI building, the United Nations and the George Washington Bridge. Prosecutors were in the dark about the details of the plot until very late in the day for fear that earlier prosecutorial involvement would breach the wall."

Was Gorelick's memo a time traveler too? The blink Sheik and several others were arrested in June 1993.


GravatarTo be honest, I used to be a very thin-complexioned goddess. The blog life has changed me into a foaming-at-the-mouth, callous and uncaring one.

Finally, some self-awareness.

We're making excellent progress here.


GravatarCondi will be the Republican nominee
for president at the same time
Hillary will be the Democratic
nominee ---


i.e, when frozen yogurt goes on
sale in hell.


GravatarCondi will be the Republican nominee
for president at the same time



I have a better chance of being elected President than KindaSleazy.

And I ain't no Repukelican!


GravatarIn his vast network of caves, Osama is hard at work building his fleet of invisible bomber and fighter planes. Since he's so far from the ocean, he's discarded his plans for invisible warships.


Gravatarcrackerstanis ... dixie-values voters

Me likey. Me takey. Me usey. Me give you credit if me not too tired that day.


GravatarOh, look, a moronic brownshirt fuck.

OK, you've seen it. Now ignore it.


GravatarFair and Fact.

Makes Republicans pee in their lying pants.

Now, let's be fair: they do that on purpose. To put out the fire.
H. G. Bergeron



,

So obvious, yet soooo funny.
.


GravatarOh, look, a moronic brownshirt fuck.

OK, you've seen it. Now ignore it.
dave™©®


Yes, what a dick, Needle.

Wait, I got those last two words backwards.


Gravatar I've had a couple of e-mail exchanges
with the Pod, and I can report
he's one of the most thin-skinned,
defensive assholes on earth.


Excellent....another target for The Needle.

*e-mails the absurdly named JPOD*

The Needle, you see, is actually not all that partisan.


GravatarJPod and Jonah Goldburg. No wonder people don't take National Review seriously. JPod is a simpering wimp, and Jonah's claim to fame is his mommy.


GravatarHeh. My bullshit detector just went off.


GravatarO'Donnell obviously became a sold out shill for Bush. She was also laughing exuberantly while that gin soaked drunk Hitchens viciously tore Sheehan apart and called her a liar. Her performance on Hardball was disgraceful but what would you expect from a corporate MSNBC (GE) pimp?


GravatarO'Donnell obviously became a sold out shill for Bush. She was also laughing exuberantly while that gin soaked drunk Hitchens viciously tore Sheehan apart and called her a liar. Her performance on Hardball was disgraceful but what would you expect from a corporate MSNBC (GE) pimp?


GravatarAs goes the Twin Cities...???

Twin Cities listeners have been tuning out political talk radio.

Locally, conservative-talk icon Rush Limbaugh's show has lost 43 percent of its audience among 25- to 54-year-olds in the past year. Sean Hannity's show is down a whopping 63 percent. The shift is serious enough that "we're weighing where these shows fit for us in the future," according to Todd Fisher, general manager at KSTP (1500 AM), which carries both syndicated programs.

Many Americans also are switching the dial. While ratings for political talk radio typically drop the year after an election, experts around the country sense something else in the air. Many metro listeners are turning to local, often sports-oriented shows.

"We're not sure yet what's really going on," said talk radio veteran Ken Kohl, Clear Channel's director of news and talk programming for northern California. "In general, the talk shows that are succeeding are ones that haven't been reliving the election, or constantly harping on the polarization between liberals and conservatives."

...(Al) Franken is an exception, however. Locally, the Minnesota native has increased his audience share to 2.4 percent of listeners ages 25 to 54, compared with 1.3 last year.


GravatarSo obvious ...

My speciality.

yet soooo funny.

Even this blind pig finds an acorn once in a while.


GravatarI have a better chance of being elected President than KindaSleazy.


Yeah, but Condi's got that spot in the Romulan Senate all locked up if she wants it!


GravatarSpeaking of Springsteen, anybody
read the piece in Esquire?


i did based on bruce's cover. it's his commentary of what he's feeling as he's about to go on stage to perform -- interspersed with his actual commentary onstage and selected lyrics.


Gravatar"We're not sure yet what's really going on," said talk radio veteran Ken Kohl, Clear Channel's director of news and talk programming for northern California. "In general, the talk shows that are succeeding are ones that haven't been reliving the election, or constantly harping on the polarization between liberals and conservatives."

I start the weekend in a much better mood.....


Gravatar Oh, look, a moronic brownshirt fuck.

Brown's not really my color. I'm more of a Winter, really.


GravatarFrom what I read there was no admission to being wrong. Just more slithering.


Gravatar Heh. My bullshit detector just went off.

In here, if it's not ringing like a firebell, you need to get it recalibrated.


Gravatar. I'm more of a Winter, really.

How fitting.


An Ice cold needle dick.


.


GravatarLocally, conservative-talk icon Rush Limbaugh's show has lost 43 percent of its audience among 25- to 54-year-olds in the past year. Sean Hannity's show is down a whopping 63 percent.

Bawa, hahahahahaha!

Time to med up, Rush!


GravatarI don't think an 'admission' that comes with insults *counts* -- so -- I'm gonna have to drop him a line about that. heh.


Gravatari meant to include this from his onstage commentary:

Evolution. Back in the newspapers. Eighty years after the Scopes monkey trial, the Kansas Board of Education has decided to take another look at evolution. Now, the president say sthat the jury is out on evolution. It's very iffy. Can't trust it. Dover, PA -- they're not sure about evolution. Here is New Jersey, we're countin' on it.

(i loved that )


Gravatar From what I read there was no admission to being wrong. Just more slithering.

My take as well. It's the Ollie North defense: the truth is a technicality.

What a scaife.


GravatarShe was also laughing exuberantly while that gin soaked drunk Hitchens viciously tore Sheehan apart and called her a liar.

Atrios linked to an American Prospect essay analyzing some of the "leading" conservative pundits, and the analysis of Hitchens pointed out not his "contrarianism" (as "Hitch" likes to call it), but his rather warped Marxist basis for analysis (not that Marxist analysis is per se warped, but the way Hitchens uses it is).

Excellent insight which led me to dismiss Hitchens not just because I don't like his "reasoning," but because he really is "unreasonable."

And a wanker.


GravatarCreationism in the schools will set this world back 5000 years.


GravatarHappy voyage, Hunter S Thompson.

(And thank you Johnny Depp.)


Gravatar
Even this blind pig finds an acorn once in a while.


Well, it was a nice fat juicy acorn.

BTW anything that falls out of this noggin is licensed under an open source model.
.


Gravatarbkny :

Thank you.


I love the guy, what can I tell you.


GravatarNice article Dave, encouragement is so...encouraging.


Gravatar Creationism in the schools will set this world back 5000 years.

Kewl. I've always wanted to see dinosaurs.


GravatarSpeaking of self-important gas-bags with foolish names, I give you:

Needle. Dick Needle.


Gravatardave™©® -- that is such a cool good news article. esp about franken -- looks like norm's gonna have to go back showing those sparklies in dental ads.


GravatarCreationism in the schools will set this world back 5000 years.

Kewl. I've always wanted to see dinosaurs.
Needle. Dick Needle.


Idiot.


GravatarCreationism in the schools will set this world back 5000 years.
©smalfish


As if violence doesn't do that already.

Creationism is not a "setback." It's simply stupid, baseless, and ignorant. Lots of teaching is (in my high school days, nobody mentioned the word "Marxist," much less dared study it. It held sway over half the population on the planet, but to study it was to commit heresy against the state!). Creationism is to be opposed because it's stupid. Plain and simple.

The idea of progress in human affairs, is another matter altogether.


GravatarExcellent insight which led me to dismiss Hitchens not just because I don't like his "reasoning," but because he really is "unreasonable."

And a wanker.


Not to mention a raging drunk. Only person I've seen appear on a national talk show with a drink in his hand.

A pity, really., He used to be quite entertaining. 9/11, however, seems to have driven him totally batshit.


GravatarBeing conservative means never having to say you're sorry.


GravatarCreationism in the schools will set this world back 5000 years.

Kewl. I've always wanted to see dinosaurs.
Needle. Dick




See what I mean?


GravatarSpent shells litter the ground at what is left of the firing range, and camouflage outfits still hang in a storeroom. Just a few months ago, this ranch was known as Camp Thunderbird, the headquarters of a paramilitary group that promised to use force to keep illegal immigrants from sneaking across the border with Mexico.

Now, in a turnabout, the 70-acre property about two miles from the border is being given to two immigrants whom the group caught trying to enter the United States illegally.



What's the Word?
Thunderbird.

Hand over the pink slips, losers.


Gravatarsteve simels -- totally understood.


GravatarCreationism in the schools will set this world back 5000 years.

Kewl. I've always wanted to see dinosaurs.


I've always wanted to meet Abraham.


Gravatar Speaking of self-important gas-bags with foolish names, I give you:

Needle. Dick Needle.


Hey, if people are going to call me that anyway...


GravatarKewl. I've always wanted to see dinosaurs.
Needle. Dick Needle.


C'mon, that's funny!


GravatarThe goddamn whiny sensitive victim politics of conservatives is really pathetic.

I think they're just latching on (with great success) the overall goddamn whiny sensitive victim culture we live in.

Wahhh, my taxes are too high, wahhh, the scientists come up with answers I don't like, wahhh, being white doesn't come with enough privileges, wahhh....

The irony is that conservatives love to whine about liberal whining and complain that they're victims of a culture of "victimization".

Lost in all of this is the fact that there are people who are hurt by society. You know, actual victims.


GravatarKewl. I've always wanted to see dinosaurs.
Needle. Dick Needle.

C'mon, that's funny!


*bows* Thank you, my dear.


GravatarI watched Abraham & Rachel vs the Tricerotops.

Forget who won though


GravatarDid I say Pod always tells the truth?

I'm sorry, I meant to say "He never tells the truth."

Except for one adverb, the meaning is identical.


GravatarThe irony is that conservatives love to whine about liberal whining and complain that they're victims of a culture of "victimization".



They call that projection, in the psychological arts.

"I call the big one bitey"
.


Gravatar I watched Abraham & Rachel vs the Tricerotops.

Forget who won though
trifecta


It was a draw.

Pillars of salt all 'round.


GravatarI've always wanted to meet Abraham.

And I hear that handmaiden of his wife's fucks like a mink.


GravatarHitchens has one theme and one theme
only -- that he's morally superior
to everybody else on the planet.

That's why he and Cockburn broke
up -- Cockburn believes the same
thing about himself.


It's a left-wing sectarian thing
gone amok.


GravatarWhat's more embarassing to the President-- a woman asking that he own up to his mistakes, or 1800 Americans dead so he could be a bigger man than his dad? The wingnuts might get a clue in the polls.


Gravatar*bows* Thank you, my dear.

Thank you, my dear
Thank you, my dear

You came, and you did
well to come: I needed
you. You have made

love blaze up in
my breast--bless you!
Bless you as often

as the hours have
been endless to me
while you were gone


GravatarO'Donnell obviously became a sold out shill for Bush. ... Her performance on Hardball was disgraceful but what would you expect from a corporate MSNBC (GE) pimp?
AJ


man, i gotta say i'm still pissed about her performance on those 2 shows. i don't recall her being so overtly the bush shill. but the bullshit she was talking was straight off the rnc talking points memo. it really was grotesque.

one thing that occurred to me is her hubby is a chichi restaurant owner in wdc. lots of lobbyists dinners to be cooked in that town -- and who controls k street?


Gravatar"slaps forehead" Of course the reason the dinosaurs disappeared was because there was no room on the ark.


Gravatara woman asking that he own up to his mistakes,

He can't admit mistakes because he's directly inspired by God.

All 6,000 years of creation have culminated in George Bush.


Gravatar"slaps forehead" Of course the reason the dinosaurs disappeared was because there was no room on the ark.


Don't be silly- the dinosaurs died because of the Clenis. And their 2 pack a day smoking habit.


Gravatar*waves at Sappho*

I like you too, honeybunch. Wanna go out and pick up some strange?


GravatarNorah Ho'Donnell was a fucking disgrace on Hardball. Tweety without the redeeming bits.


GravatarOT, but Gilliard's got two good ones today: The Iraq Brigades (or as I prefer to call it, "What Did You Do in the War, Jonah?"), and the Alexandria Prison Blues, in which he shows his penchant for writing pithy dialogue.


Gravatar"I think today a pluralistic society should have access to a broad range of fact, of science, including faith," Frist said.

ummmmmmm....

i was always kinda under the impression that faith existed independent of facts...how does one include 'faith' in with science and fact, when they are, for all practical purposes, self-contradictory?

wondering, wandering Cassandro, aka


Gravatar Being conservative means never having to say you're sorry.

Great link! I clicked through to Powerline and watched it spin when their bullshit was revealed. I didn't know that cyclones could stop on a dime and spontaneously become anticyclones. Isn't that a sign of the End Times?


GravatarOne of the best birthday presents I got this year:

A t-shirt with a Darwin fish and a Jesus fish side by side.

And under them, the words, "Okay, So I Evolved and You Didn't."


GravatarBTW, great casting notes from Gilliard's comments:

Pam Grier as Lakeisha and Harriet Sansom Harris (Frasier's agent) as Judy.


GravatarWhat's more embarassing to the President-- a woman asking that he own up to his mistakes, or 1800 Americans dead so he could be a bigger man than his dad? The wingnuts might get a clue in the polls.

Not having heard enough lame WWII analogies regarding Iraq, I had a work colleague complain that FDR wouldn't have interrupted his duties to explain to a grieving mother as to why her son died on the beaches of Normandy.

My answer was maybe, maybe not, but all Cindy Sheehan is asking is why are we in Iraq. I'll bet anything FDR would not have had such a hard time coming up with a valid reason for why young men had to fight and die in Europe.

Actually, a better analogy for Iraq is WWI - pointless, drawn out, tautologically justified ("we're here because we're here") and a steady waste of young lives. Thank God for small mercies - the pace of killing is slower now.


Gravatar"i was always kinda under the impression that faith existed independent of facts...how does one include 'faith' in with science and fact, when they are, for all practical purposes, self-contradictory?"


The Babel fish, is small, yellow, and leechlike, and probably the oddest thing in the universe. It feeds on brainwave energy received not from its own carrier but from those around it.It absorbs all unconscious mental frequencies from this brainwave energy to nourish itself with. It then excretes into the mind of its carrier a telepathic matrix formed by combining the conscious thought frequencies with nerve signals picked up from the speech centers of the brain which has supplied them. The practical upshot of all this is that if you stick a Babel fish in your ear you can instantly understand anything said to you in any form of language. The speech patterns you actually hear decode the brainwave matrix which has been fed into your mind by your Babel fish. Now it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that anything that mindbogglingly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as a final and clinching proof of the nonexistence of God. The argument goes something like this: "I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing." "But," says man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn´t it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don´t. QED." "Oh dear," says God, "I hadn´t thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic. "Oh, that was easy," says man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing.
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Gravatar"I think today a pluralistic society should have access to a broad range of fact, of science, including faith," Frist said.

Uh, yeah, and the society DOES, in fact, have access to those things. Which is completely different from equating science and faith in a science classroom.

He's just trying to get back inside after his stem-cell fuckup.


GravatarThe dinosaurs had to be sacrificed because God *knew* we were going to need oil.

Otherwise.... woulda been a *big* honkin' ark, no?


GravatarWhen speaking of Norah O'Donnell can we preface her name with "the trollish".


Gravatar "I think today a pluralistic society should have access to a broad range of fact, of science, including faith," Frist said.

I mean, really.

Think about it. Would you want this "doctor" to treat you for anything?


Gravatar"Actually, it wasn’t just the word “solely” that made Podhoretz’s statement problematic. Gorelick’s memo had nothing to do with whether the Able Danger data was shared because it wasn’t about information sharing between the Department of Defense and the FBI. It was about information sharing between the FBI and the criminal division of the Justice Department. Why can’t Podhoretz understand this?"

Starts with it took him months to figure out the dodge he used, continues with he's never had an idea of his own in his life and concludes with he's a congenital liar.


GravatarI had a work colleague complain that FDR wouldn't have interrupted his duties to explain to a grieving mother as to why her son died on the beaches of Normandy.

Ask him what he would think about FDR taking nearly a year of vacation while the country was at war.


GravatarWould you want this "doctor" to treat you for anything?

Not even for a mild case of stinkfoot.


Gravatar"I think today a pluralistic society should have access to a broad range of fact, of science, including faith," Frist said.

Frist is the man who will say anything at all to get the Republican nomination. I think Harvard should revoke his degree. It's obvious that he didn't learn a thing there.


GravatarRight-wing hack style guide:

We're/I'm not sure yet what's really going on...(insert bold assertion here)...but I must firmly conclude that.....

We/I don't really know much about the topic at hand but...(insert bold assertion here)...it is therefore undeniable that.....

So far we/I haven't reviewed the evidence but...(insert bold assertion here)...and therefore, the liberals are wrong and.....

No facts in the case have yet been developed but...(insert bold assertion here)...it must therefore follow that.....

We/I personally have no opinion on the subject but some people are saying...(insert bold assertion here)...Democrats are detroying America.....


GravatarIf Intelligent Desgin is indeed true, if the marvelous complexity of life is eviudence of a mind behind its creation...

How do you reconcile a mind that could design a world of such infinite subtlety and complexiy with the crude, psychotic, thuggish God of the Bible? A God who demands blood sacrifice, up to and including His own son, to appease his wrath? A God who'd kill a man for trying to save the Ark of the Covenant from destruction?

If you believe there's an intellect behind all of this, then it can't be the God they told me about in church.


GravatarHow can they call that crap "intelligent"?

Nothing intelligent about it!


Gravatar" I had a work colleague complain that FDR wouldn't have interrupted his duties to explain to a grieving mother as to why her son died on the beaches of Normandy."


Where did this idiot learn history?

From Rush Limpdick?


GravatarAsk him what he would think about FDR taking nearly a year of vacation while the country was at war.

Excellent point.


GravatarWhere did this idiot learn history? From Rush Limpdick?

Wouldn't be surprised.


GravatarThe Normandy comment reminds me of the idiot we had on here yesterday who kept bringing up WW II.

Comparing WW II to Viet Nam and this mess in Iraq is comparing apples to oranges and grapes.

In WW II (which we did NOT fight or win singlehandedly) we fought fascists.

Now, the fascists run this country.


GravatarHow can they call that crap "intelligent"?

Nothing intelligent about it!
Terry C

Consider the source.

The bigger issue is why these theocrats are so eager to destroy science. They wouldn't be putting this much effort into it if there wasn't some financial reason to be doing so. I suspect it's just another scheme to funnel public money to official religon.

How much of that faith-based Mammon for heaven is going to liberal believers? How much to Wiccans, Pagans, etc?

If they wanted to stop it the Metropolitan Community Church should be convinced to put in for some. Can't see how they could be denied or the thumpers liking it.


GravatarComparing WW II to Viet Nam and this mess in Iraq is comparing apples to oranges and grapes.

In WW II (which we did NOT fight or win singlehandedly) we fought fascists.

Now, the fascists run this country.
Terry C


The Boer Wars were so exactly like the colonization of India and the War of the Roses.

So, na!


GravatarLocally, conservative-talk icon Rush Limbaugh's show has lost 43 percent of its audience among 25- to 54-year-olds in the past year. Sean Hannity's show is down a whopping 63 percent.



Veils lifting from eyes here?


GravatarThe Boer Wars were so exactly like the colonization of India and the War of the Roses.

So, na!
rorschach


And your point is?


GravatarIn WW II (which we did NOT fight or win singlehandedly) we fought fascists.

These simpleton assholes get just about every detail wrong. A popular myth that they cling to is that we declared war on Germany at the same time Congress declared war on Imperial Japan.

In perhaps his grandest gesture of madness, Hitler declared war on the United States after Pearl Harbor. He didn't even wait until after the US had committed its military to the far reaches of the South Pacific.

Many other things contributed to his downfall, but that maneuver sealed his fate.

It was a classic "Oh, you want some of this?!" moment in history.

Putz.


GravatarIf you believe there's an intellect behind all of this, then it can't be the God they told me about in church.

Ironically, I think many atheists arrive at that conclusion because they had an above-average respect and regard for the Western concept of God back when they believed. When you think seriously about what omnipotence, benevolence, eternity and perfection mean you can't help but find the traditional stories about the wishes and deeds of the Almighty to be altogether ridiculous.


GravatarAnd your point is?
Terry C


My point? To mock those who make absurd and irrelevant historical analogies.


GravatarAnd your point is?
Terry C


My point? To mock those who make absurd and irrelevant historical analogies.


GravatarIn perhaps his grandest gesture of madness, Hitler declared war on the United States after Pearl Harbor.

I nominate Mussolini as the crazier bastard.


GravatarVeils lifting from eyes here?

I hope so. The pessimist in me thinks it's more a sort of fatigue from success. For a wingnut it gets boring when you're in power, and it was more fun when you were ranting at Clinton and "solving" the Vince Foster case.

It's like those TV shows that finally give in and have the two lead characters consummate the relationship, which puts an end to the tension that had everyone tuning in. Or, to make a long story short, now that we're all fucked, it's not as interesting.


GravatarTwice.


Gravataragain, I will quote:

A pattern of grandiosity, excessive need for admiration, entitlement, and lack of empathy are the chief components in the diagnosis of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. These behaviors begin in early adulthood. A narcissistic individual is unable to trust others but replies on others to be a mirror which reflects back to him his unrealistic perception of his accomplishments, brilliance, talent, and beauty. A narcissistic individual has a fragile sense of self. To strengthen his sense of self he depends on other's admiration and constant attention. He expects other's to covet his possessions and he is constantly seeking compliments. Thus the narcissist develops numerous, shallow relationships to extract tributes from others.

Because a narcissistic individual has a shifting morality--always ready to shift values to gain favor--any interaction with a narcissist is difficult. Narcissists are self-absorbed and have no interest in anyone other than themselves. Their tendency is to form friendships or romantic relationships with only those that can enhance their self-esteem or advance their purposes.

if you keep reading the article, it talks about how the NPD personalty cannot withstand any type of criticism


GravatarVeils lifting from eyes here?
Terry C


What's El Rushbo's station count these days? Below that magic 600, isn't it? Where have all the "Rush Rooms" gone? Decline and Fall in progress, methinks. And I still wonder, thought these numbers probably aren't easy to get, how much he's had to lower his rates, to keep stations--and advertizers-- in the Excrescence In Broadcasting Network.


GravatarWhere have all the "Rush Rooms" gone? Decline and Fall in progress, methinks.

rush spent alot of time backtracking his comments on sheehan this past week. franken has been playing the original clip and then his on air denial that he had ever said what he fucking said. anyway, one of his comments was he'd received far more emails than he had in the past and that was why he felt the need to 'clarify'.

if those emails had been from the eschaton community, rush never would have felt compelled to 'clarify'. he would have read and mocked every single one.

yeah, i think the worm is turning.


GravatarTwo things I learned from Maher's show last night.

Chris Rock kept hammering on $5 gallon/gas no matter what anyone else said about anything else. And he's right--that's what will get more people's attention than anything else short of a direct hit on their cities.

Second. The Coulter clone was yammering on about how Iraqi women were better off than under Saddam and Maher responded with, "What ass are you pulling this out of?" What was interesting about her( and Asa Hutchinson or even Schafly when Maher asked about her gay son and how many conservatives seem to have gay children) was how they stayed on-message, never blinking, never straying from their talking points. Dems just aren't robotic enough to compete with these drones.


Gravatar"The goddamn whiny sensitive victim politics of conservatives is really pathetic."

conservatives are pathetic in every way.
=


GravatarThe Babelfish excerpt, while always entertaining, and never welcome, is something of a red herring...

there is, in reality, nothing in its existence which implies special creation...just as there is nothing in cosmology which necessitates any first cause. our knowledge is limited by the big bang, but--unless you believe that a tree falling in the forest creates no perturbation--there is nothing known to physics today which forbids the existence of any (some call it "an infinite") number of simultaneous, or precedent or antecedent bangs somewhere outside the range of instruments available to detect them...

if you wanna say "God" is just a shorter version of "Infinity", i'll go along widdat...not that it matters
.


GravatarFUCK HALOSPAM


GravatarwHY DO DIMS AND LIBS SUPPORT ASSWIPES LIKE MAHER AND IMUS, Making the fucks richer than satan so they can beome all repub all the time?
Fuck Maher; he will sell out to the horny and wealthy elites.


Gravatarcry me a fuckin river, Pod.

argh. I hate it that this guy shares the nickname with my MP3 player!


Gravatarnew nickname for Pod:

whinePod

get it?


GravatarAn Unmarrued Black Woman?
Yeah if they ran as VP they might win a few votes. But they'd lose a few more. I think they are smart enough to do the math. That is, if they even care any more, after all they do have Diebold. Speaking of which, Hagel is actually in the best position with respect to that, isn't he? So he could conceivably have Condolcezza as his running 'mate'.


GravatarLast, BITCHES!


GravatarHah!


GravatarThe Coulter clone was yammering on about how Iraqi women were better off than under Saddam and Maher responded with, "What ass are you pulling this out of?"



Er, it's the TRUTH, Maher...you sell out son of a bitch.

Why should he care about women anyway, the misogynistic prick?


GravatarAnd your point is?
Terry C

My point? To mock those who make absurd and irrelevant historical analogies.
rorschach

Absurd and irrelevant?

I merely said that WW II could not be compared to Viet Nam and this mess in Iraq.

How is this absurd and irrelevant?


Gravatar"I get called a traitor several times a day. The goddamn whiny sensitive victim politics of conservatives is really pathetic." - Atrios

"Everyone knows terrorists are bad." - Atrios


Gravatar"I get called a traitor several times a day. The goddamn whiny sensitive victim politics of conservatives is really pathetic." - Atrios

"Everyone knows terrorists are bad." - Atrios
Cog |


Speaking of absurd and irrelevant.


Gravatar"Fighting back is vicious if it is from the left."

Then I'm gonna be as "vicious" as I want to.


GravatarA JPod sounds like an mp3 player modified to disseminate conservative talking points.


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