HULK SMASHED
frist?
omg, that's like the 2nd time in all of my commenting life! 
Two years at most.
go forth!
And I was thaaaat close.
5 years= amount of time for KBR etc to drain national coffers dry and overextend US credit completely.
dead guardsmen...not really their concern.
Cindy Sheehan puts it nicely in a diary over at kos:
"I got an email the other day and it said, `Cindy if you didn't use so much profanity .... there's people on the fence that get offended.'
"And you know what I said? `You know what? You know what, god damn it? How in the world is anybody still sitting on that fence?'
"If you fall on the side that is pro-George and pro-war, you get your ass over to Iraq, and take the place of somebody who wants to come home. And if you fall on the side that is against this war and against George Bush, stand up and speak out."
"It's our only hope"
Aaaaah, the soft bigotry of low expectations again rears its ugly head.
I got nothing.....
I've always enjoyed reading Matt's stuff, and was kinda put off by the 'Mega-blog' thing at first -- but, I think he's really found his niche there at TPM. Always great stuff.
Do you think any of the folks making these decisions have the slightest regard for what takes place in Iraq any time after January 21, 2009 ?
"And you know what I said? `You know what? You know what, god damn it? How in the world is anybody still sitting on that fence?'
Word.
Chidyke, how the hell are ya?
This guard meltdown - If Fla. has a bad hurricane year will it leave residents to fend for themselves mostly?
I've been wondering what happens to real home security when you ship the guard out of country. There will be less preparedness for any emergency, right?
How in the world is anybody still sitting on that fence?
She shoots! She scores!!
Most of those "still on the fence" are the press... who don't want to be on record one way or another.
21st Century Mugwumps: Mugs on one side of the fence, and 'wumps' on the other.
This man, facing off against thousands, is surely no chickenhawk. He's a Holy Warrior, after all.
He could limit himself to killing only fag insurgents.
5 years= amount of time for KBR etc to drain national coffers dry and overextend US credit completely.
dead guardsmen...not really their concern.
chicago dyke
He's got to get on with his life. Didn't you hear him?
chicago dyke has gotten the entire set of the Republican new ideas into one sentence. Since it also includes the entire message of the commercial media this is a feat comparable to Hillel's condensation of the Torah.
I wish my name was chicago. It's got a certain something that EPT just lacks.
Bring home the troops - send in the chickenhawks!
This man, facing off against thousands, is surely no chickenhawk. He's a Holy Warrior, after all.
Let's see how he does with a bunch of La Leche League members. Then we'll see how courageous he really is.
Anybody have any ideas what GWB
will do as an ex-president?
Seriously......
And remember, kids: You don't "support the troops" by supporting the LIES that KILL THEM!
We're in Iraq for decades. Let's start accepting that, debating that, and making that common knowledge.
For decades we're going to have body bags, instability, graft, corruption, rising fuel prices and increased economic instability.
Until we all accept there's a turd on the table, we're not going to do anything about it. We're just going to complain about the smell.
Permanent bases in Iraq mean that we intend to remain in control of Iraq, permanently. They'll have autnomy when we've stolen all of their oil.
Anybody have any ideas what GWB
will do as an ex-president?
Crawl into his spiderhole with a case of vodka?
This guard meltdown - If Fla. has a bad hurricane year will it leave residents to fend for themselves mostly?
LADYSMITH, Wis. (AP) — The damage estimate from a Labor Day tornado that tore through this northwestern Wisconsin town topped the $20 million mark as state officials promised immediate help in money, loans and National Guard troops to rebuild the community. "You just thank God nobody was killed," Gov. Scott McCallum said after touring the area Tuesday.
This was from a 2002 article. Wonder how many Guardsmen there are to help clean up after the latest round of tornadoes?
Anybody have any ideas what GWB
will do as an ex-president?
I wouldn't allow him within the same zipcode of any management position.
How in the world is anybody still sitting on that fence?
Is there any word on her mother and on when/if she is going back to Crawford?
I wouldn't allow him within the same zipcode of any management position.
He'll be on a whole bunch of Boards of Directors, operating controls that aren't attached to anything.
Kind of like now.
"What will GW do as ex-president?"
Time.
Anybody have any ideas what GWB
will do as an ex-president?
Reality TV. Make him eat weird shit then kick him off the whatever
Bushie and Daddie can fly to the same Carlyle meetings, look inappropriate at any gathering of ex-presidents, etc.
Cindy Sheehan puts it nicely in a diary over at kos:
"I got an email the other day and it said, `Cindy if you didn't use so much profanity .... there's people on the fence that get offended.'
Oh, please - they need to get their asses OFF the "fence."
They don't think the war is "offensive."
Gutless nitwits!
Anybody have any ideas what GWB
will do as an ex-president?
Drive more businesses into the ground?
my fondest hope is that Bush & Cheney do a reality show called "Baghdad Vice"...
Summer 2006, we will be having to send a bunch of people on their 3rd tours of Iraq. A whole bunch. I know some are scheduled for tour #3 this December. It's going to break the Army.
THIS IS FUCKING STUPID:
Bush links Iraq war with Sept. 11 attacks
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9020634/
Write, e-mail tell your buddies - He cannot stop lying about the Iraq wa - It's surreal
Fuck this man with the truth!
Anybody have any ideas what GWB
will do as an ex-president?
Whatever it is - I guaran-damn-tee it WON'T be in Crawford.
What I find strange, is there is no talk of a draft! With the Army and Reserves nearly broken already, and not getting better in the next 36 months, how is it possible that there is no congress critter or Brookings Institute/Heritage Foundation talking head pushing the idea?
Or are they waiting for disaster to strike, for the right moment - new products never get rolled out in August, as it's been said.
This guard meltdown - If Fla. has a bad hurricane year will it leave residents to fend for themselves mostly?
Yes.
Anybody have any ideas what GWB
will do as an ex-president?
Anybody have any ideas what GWB
will do as an ex-president?
Baseball commissioner?
Anybody have any ideas what GWB
will do as an ex-president?
Reagan's first ex year, picking up his payments for selling the country to the highest bidder, only many times over.
I don't think that the press will be looking when his den of thieves pick up their gift watches this time.
Strange how people like Bill O'Reilly want us to "win" in Iraq but can't define what victory means beyond the now unattainable goal of leaving behind some sort of stable government that will hold Iraq together and will sell us oil real cheap.
If that's going to happen, you need a huge increase in manpower and a massive occupational footprint that imposes a structure on those people. As Papa Bush used to say, "Na ga hapn"
Oops -- looks like another "aluminum tubes" story:
U.N. nuclear agency tests have concluded that traces of highly enriched uranium on centrifuge parts were from imported equipment _ rather than from any enrichment activities by Iran, a senior Western diplomat said Saturday.
The findings support Iran's claims that the material entered the country together with centrifuge parts provided by Pakistan. ...
"The source of contamination was not related to Iran," said Iran Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi. "We are sure the source is not internal."
The United States has alleged the material was produced by Tehran and the particles were evidence that Iran was experimenting with producing highly enriched uranium, which is only used in nuclear weapons.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...5082000616.html
What I find strange, is there is no talk of a draft!
They can't talk about a draft- a draft might affect their little overpriviledged darlings.
res -- she said yesterday on her Kos diary that her mom is still in ICU and can't speak, but they got a couple of laughs out of her so she seems to be cognitively together, at least to some degree.
I'd be surprised if she was able to leave before the end of August.
About that CENTCOM assessment: Let me see if I understand this.
The American people need to stay behind Operation Enduring Clusterfuck for another TWO TO FIVE YEARS, in spite of the fact that the Guard and Reserves are EXPECTED to melt down in the next year and a half. Are the G&R not a very significant portion of deployed forces? And if they're no longer deployable, with what fucking army are we going to continue to fight this pointless exercise? Do they imagine that the people will stay behind this if there's a draft? Or even if not?
Anybody have any ideas what GWB
will do as an ex-president?
I would insert pithy comment here about a certain television commercial about pace picante sauce and the new jerseyians who make it. But that might be considered a threat. So I'll just make the implication of said pithy comment.
More from Cindy Sheehan's diary:
One thing I haven't noticed or become aware of though is an increased number of pro-war, pro-Bush people on the other side of the fence enlisting to go and fight George Bush's war for imperialism and insatiable greed. The pro-peace side has gotten off their apathetic butts to be warriors for peace and justice. Where are the pro-war people? Everyday at Camp Casey we have a couple of anti-peace people on the other side of the road holding up signs that remind me that "Freedom isn't Free" but I don't see them putting their money where their mouths are. I don't think they are willing to pay even a small down payment for freedom by sacrificing their own blood or the flesh of their children. I still challenge them to go to Iraq and let another soldier come home. Perhaps a soldier that is on his/her third tour of duty, or one that has been stop-lossed after serving his/her country nobly and selflessly, only to be held hostage in Iraq by power mad hypocrites who have a long history of avoiding putting their own skin in the game.
Contrary to what the main stream media thinks, I did not just fall off a pumpkin truck in Crawford, Tx. on that scorchingly hot day two weeks ago. I have been writing, speaking, testifying in front of Congressional committees, lobbying Congress, and doing interviews for over a year now. I have been pretty well known in the progressive, peace community and I had many, many supporters before I even left California. The people who supported me did so because they know that I uncompromisingly tell the truth about this war. I have stood up and said: "My son died for NOTHING, and George Bush and his evil cabal and their reckless policies killed him. My son was sent to fight in a war that had no basis in reality and was killed for it." I have never said "pretty please" or "thank you." I have never said anything wishy-washy like he uses "Patriotic Rhetoric." I say my son died for LIES. George Bush LIED to us and he knew he was LYING. The Downing Street Memos dated 23 July, 2002 prove that he knew that Saddam didn't have WMD's or any ties to Al Qaeda. I believe that George lied and he knew he was lying. He didn't use patriotic rhetoric. He lied and made us afraid of ghosts that weren't there. Now he is using patriotic rhetoric to keep the U.S. military presence in Iraq: Patriotic rhetoric that is based on greed and nothing else.
Now I am being vilified and dragged through the mud by the righties and so-called "fair and balanced" main stream media who are afraid of the truth and can't face someone who tells it by telling any truth of their own. Now they have to twist, distort, lie, and scrutinize anything I have ever said when they never scrutinize anything that George Bush said or is saying. Instead of asking George or Scotty McClellan if he will meet with me, why aren't they asking the questions they should have been asking all along: "Why are our young people fighting, dying, and killing in Iraq? What is this noble cause you are sending our young people to Iraq for? What do you hope to accomplish there? Why did you tell us there were WMD's and ties to Al Qaeda when you knew there weren't? Why did you lie to us? Why did you lie to the American people? Why did you lie to the world? Why are our nation's children still in harm's way and dying everyday when we all know you lied? Why do you continually say we have to `complete the mission' when you know damn well you have no idea what that mission is and you can change it at will like you change your cowboy shirts?"
No wonder all the brownshirts crap in their pants when she walks into the room!
Baseball commissioner?
Wonder if Jose Canseco and Raffy Palmeiro ever hooked their ex-boss up with any of those good anabolic steroids?
Mr. 45-beat Resting Heart Rate, and all...
Summer 2006, we will be having to send a bunch of people on their 3rd tours of Iraq. A whole bunch. I know some are scheduled for tour #3 this December. It's going to break the Army.
trifecta
When I was at DFW last week there was a whole bunch of troops there rotating thru on a two-week R&R. I bought a couple of them a beer and talked for awhile.
One guy was going to see his baby girl for the second time since she was born - she was almost 1 year old. He's going back to finish his second tour and is already scheduled for his third deployment. You could see the utter despair in his eyes when he talked about that third deployment. 1000 yard stare, indeed.
What, me worry about the future? I mean; the rapture is comin' enny day now...
heh-heh
/GWB
FLG -
I suppose they can't just say "draft the poor people" or "You must earn over $xx,xxx" to become exempt from the draft". Too blatant, wouldn't play well in Jeebusland with the rural/"red state" rubes.
Catching up on this weeks Daily Shows.
High-larious bit with Carrell and Stewart imitating Pirro's announcement gaffe.
Anybody have any ideas what GWB
will do as an ex-president?
All kidding aside. I really do want to know and I can't stand the wait. Lets get him started on that tomorrow.
Reality TV. Make him eat weird shit then kick him off the whatever
bill
Sears Tower?
Anybody have any ideas what GWB
will do as an ex-president?
(Have I mentioned today that the only thing I hate more than Bush is Hell-o-freaking-scan?)
Anyway, he'll be a teevee preacher, for sure.
Sears Tower?
Virginia
That works.
Mr. 45-beat Resting Heart Rate, and all...
Once he's done trouncing Lance Armnstrong in a sprint, and miraculously clearing out the brush and stables like Hercules, Bush should really play some golf with Kim Jong-Il.
The media response would be interesting. - matching scores of 18? We can do this.
Anybody have any ideas what GWB
will do as an ex-president?
Pretty much what he does now, I suppose. Vacation, and fuck with people.
Sheehan is awesome.
"They know that if we do not confront these evil men abroad, we will have to face them one day in our own cities and streets, and they know that the safety and security of every American is at stake in this war, and they know we will prevail," he said.
One of Little Boots' speachifiers ought to give the boy a new line. This one has become a hackneyed cliche.
Really, that's OK by me tho since folks is hip to his BS now.
Instead, we seem to have a plan that calls for the deployment of forces that we do not expect will exist.
Haven't you heard about the force multiplers?
Poll of the day.
Did I say: GO!
The thing that irritates me the most are the idiots, including the media and service members, who claim those fighting in Iraq are fighting for our *freedoms.* Bullshit! Our freedom never depended on ridding Iraq of Saddam and even a child knows that. Proof positive that Chimp's propaganda campaign works.
What I find strange, is there is no talk of a draft! With the Army and Reserves nearly broken already, and not getting better in the next 36 months, how is it possible that there is no congress critter or Brookings Institute/Heritage Foundation talking head pushing the idea?
Like all other Bush Crime Family 'policies' they're assuming they can create their own reality.
A draft will destroy their chances in 2006 -- unless they can find a Dem stupid enough to introduce the idea. Their plan is to draw down enough troops in summer/fall 2006 to be able to claim victory and win the elections, then worry about Iraq afterwards. Georgie won't EVER push for a draft -- that would require admitting he and Dummy were wrong in planning this war. And Bunnypants is never farking wrong.
Until then, Jeebus and the Invisible Cloud Being will keep things going for them.
Shorter AT:
THIS IS FUCKING STUPID:
Bush
Have to run, have some music y'all:
http://greatscat.blogspot.com/20...y-
music_19.html
Have a great day.
Chimp boy and Pickles will go into the comedy business after a hilarious impromto afternoon of slapstick construction shenanigans on a habitat building site. Reporters on the scene were surprised at the way the Chimpster kept at it after cutting off three fingers with a skill saw. Of course Pickles was still screaming and spurting blood from her mangled hand during the interview, so she was not available for comments.
When things are “fucked up,” say so openly and not just to a Rolling Stone interviewer. If personally attacked, challenge the accusers immediately and forcefully with withering contempt. Temper that frankness with an ounce of self-deprecating humor, a dash of laughter at the expense of the sitting President and the national press Corps, and voila, you have a winning recipe.
i don't know if this fits the thread, but too good not to share, SWNS. Sudden Withdrawal of Nutsack Syndrome
i think howard dean and paul hackett prove the point. and god knows things are only sure to get more fucked up in the future. 5 year plan my ass. i want my country back NOW!
Anybody have any ideas what GWB
will do as an ex-president?
oh, i don't think you have to worry about him. although hs stint as prezwit will end, he'll be anti-christ for life. maybe longer.
The law for the public under this administration:
Ask a ridiculously obvious question, get no answer.
Fun!
Reagan's first ex year, picking up his payments for selling the country to the highest bidder, only many times over.
I don't think that the press will be looking when his den of thieves pick up their gift watches this time.
EPT
I was wondering about this recently. There was a minor shitstorm about St. Ronnie's incredibly tacky first year post-presidency. The not-quite completely sold out press corpse were disgusted enough to cover it.
What are the chances the press will even notice this time 'round? Unless you've got the Clenis™ and Poppy heading up disaster relief while Bunnypants is busy shilling for Halliburton. Then they might notice.
Dave,
I took that poll you linked to and nearly passed out that 24% of those who took the poll voted that they were neutral. WTF?
Anybody have any ideas what GWB
will do as an ex-president?
perhaps he can get a job with a horse breeder. he's certainly got experience.
Anybody have any ideas what GWB
will do as an ex-president?
He invaded Iraq so as to import massive quantities of brush, which he will then clear.
Anybody have any ideas what GWB
will do as an ex-president?
Don't know, but one thing is for certain, with his business background Cheney, sure as hell doesn't want him at Halliburton.
I think George Bush will just play video games, nap, and ride his bike, just like he does now.
Are the G&R not a very significant portion of deployed forces? 40%
And if they're no longer deployable, with what fucking army are we going to continue to fight this pointless exercise? Prayer.
Don't know, but one thing is for certain, with his business background Cheney, sure as hell doesn't want him at Halliburton.
The guy's like a divining rod for failure. A dowser for fuckups.
Fuck this man with the truth!
And the truth is that none of the 9/11 hijackers were Iraqi. 15 Suadis, 2 United Arab Emirates, 1 Egyptian and 1 Lebanese ( I might be wrong on the Lebanese one) 15 Saudis to 0 Iraqis. Look at who Bush is holding hands with.
I took that poll you linked to and nearly passed out that 24% of those who took the poll voted that they were neutral. WTF?
bigvic | Email | 08.20.05 - 1:01 pm | #
um, i saw 26 PEOPLE voted neutral, not 26%.
although i wonder why they would bother voting?
bush radio address: stay the course! 9/11! terror! freedom! be afraid!
just played on cnn.
. The not-quite completely sold out press corpse were disgusted enough to cover it.
What are the chances the press will even notice this time 'round?
Hahahahahaha. Quite the joker today.
And if they're no longer deployable, with what fucking army are we going to continue to fight this pointless exercise? Prayer.
Dear GOD (or jeebus, or whoever the fuck) Please kill and maim our enemies over there so we don't have to fight them here (except the liberals, we want to do that ourselves---hehehe). Oh and, while I got yer ear, can you send me another bottle of whiskey, mines about to run out.
In yer name.
Heyman.
cnn reporting on iraqi constitution deadline. i think they just re-ran last week's report. hasn't changed a bit.
How is it, exactly, that we're supposed to prevail over a five year timeline if the Reserve and Guard components of the Army "melt-down" over the next 36 months?
the 250,000 iraqi national army which were building.
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A SOUTHERN IRAQ MILITARY FACILITY, Feb. 15, 2005 – Between 8,000 and 10,000 men arrived by foot, bus and other means by sun-up Feb. 14 at an airfield outside an Iraqi army base to join the Iraq's army, officials said.
Of that, about 5,000 made it through a screening process that led them onto the base, which is home to several thousand Iraqi soldiers and a contingent of U.S. servicemembers. Most will be transferred to other bases in Iraq to supplement existing units, officials said.
The process was a result of the largest recruitment effort for the Iraqi army to date, said U.S. Navy Lt. Cmdr. Anthony Woodley of Multinational Security Transition Command Iraq.
Many recruits showed up with proof that they were serving when Saddam Hussein's regime fell and were subsequently released from duty. Former Iraqi army Maj. Hussien Ali Kadhun, 48, traveled about an hour and a half by bus to rejoin.
"I want to serve my country and fight the terrorists," he said through a translator. Ali Kadhun said he graduated from a military college in 1979 with a bachelor's degree in military science. He returned to school to study law shortly after his release from the army in 2003.
Another former soldier, Hakeem Shaial Hassan, 27, worked as a farmer after his first stint in the Army. It took him nearly four hours to get to the airfield with a group of friends. His quest for service would provide him and his family with a better income. New recruits earn 420,380 dinars a month, about $212 in U.S. dollars, officials said.
"I am proud that I made it," Shaial Hassan said through an interpreter.
http://www.pentagon.mil/news/
Feb...2005021501.html
Hahahahahaha. Quite the joker today.
bigvic
Laughter.
It's my gift to Left Blogistan. 
Dear GOD (or jeebus, or whoever the fuck) Please kill and maim our enemies over there so we don't have to fight them here (except the liberals, we want to do that ourselves---hehehe).
Smallfish is full of piss and vinegar today. That is HIGHlarious.
cnn reporting on iraqi constitution deadline. i think they just re-ran last week's report. hasn't changed a bit.
dirk gently
For the real scoop on that situation, you should check here.
I suppose they can't just say "draft the poor people" or "You must earn over $xx,xxx" to become exempt from the draft". Too blatant, wouldn't play well in Jeebusland with the rural/"red state" rubes.
foilhatgrrl | 08.20.05 - 12:51 pm | # .........................................Heres how they do it:The bush team announces a draft to replace the National Guard in Iraq and it once again becomes the safe haven for the children of the aristocrats.Just like how bush beat combat duty.Same as it ever was.Same as it ever was.
I like Gilliard's idea: the 'Ronald Reagan Brigade'. If the intellectual advocates of Operation Iraqi Clusterfuck really believe that they're facing fascism, then they ought to follow the model of the Spanish Civil War.
On second thought maybe Cheney should hire him to run Halliburton. Then we could all sit back and watch Halliburton go bankrupt.
Don't know, but one thing is for certain, with his business background Cheney, sure as hell doesn't want him at Halliburton
Talked to a guy at a party couple weeks ago that had been one of the players at Halliburton. Apparently Cheney left things in a little bit of a mess. Don't think he will be invited back.
My son was sent to fight in a war that had no basis in reality and was killed for it." I have never said "pretty please" or "thank you." I have never said anything wishy-washy like he uses "Patriotic Rhetoric." I say my son died for LIES. George Bush LIED to us and he knew he was LYING.
whoa, i mentioned howard and paul, but i forgot Cindy no Sudden Withdrawal of Nutsack Syndrome there.
http://www.pentagon.mil/news/ Feb...2005021501.html
Oh, now thats a reliable source.
I'm scratching my head at a segment I caught part of on Faux just now. Tony Snow (who seems to have hit fifth gear in the rapid aging process) was talking to former ambassador Mark Ginsberg and ret. Marine Col. Bill Cowans about Eyerack. Cowans was noting that most of the military "advisors" we are embedding with Iraqi forces are not trained to be advisors, may not know the language or anything about the people they are advising, and may even have *no experience* in the topic on which they are advising. He said a few of the Marine advisors get a short, "Advising 101" course before going over, and the Army guys get zilch. He was pretty much saying the security handover thing is not gonna work as undertaken. Ginsberg said in effect that the civil war has already begun and that we can do nothing about it, that we are not even hearing about in media headlines, the action mostly outside Baghdad with the settling of old scores and the starting of "new scores", mainly Sunni/Shia mayhem of major proportions, unreported in the US.
Tony Snow was like, "Gosh! That bad? OK, we'll be right back."
I was like, "Who hit these guys with the reality stick?".
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I don't think the Iraq debacle will itself cause a draft.
But something else will. These dipshits are gunslingers and they haven't sated their bloodlust yet.
And the ~20,000 private company Hessians now in Iraq aren't going to make up the slack.
Oh, fuck Reuters:
Critics say Iraq had nothing to do with the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on New York and Washington and that the administration has tried to tie Iraq to terrorism since the war to justify its actions.
Critics say?
How about this line:
'Iraq had nothing to do with the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks on New York and Washington, and critics say that the administration has tried to tie Iraq to terrorism since the war to justify its actions'?
Or this:
'Iraq had nothing to do with the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks on New York and Washington, but the administration has tried to tie Iraq to terrorism since the war to justify its actions'?
Apparently Cheney left things in a little bit of a mess. Don't think he will be invited back.
chris/tx
The last guy is always blamed for what's wrong today.
Cheney doesn't need to go back. With his deferred compensation, his great-grandchildren are set for life.
First!
.
Dear GOD (or jeebus, or whoever the fuck) Please kill and maim our enemies over there so we don't have to fight them here
and lord, don't forget about justices stephens, breyer, and ginsburg.
in thy homicidal name we prey [sic],
amen.
Thomas Hammes, a retired Marine colonel who has written a book on anti-insurgency tactics, said ground commanders have been saying that they don't have enough troops to cover the country, despite the Pentagon's insistence that they do.
Pentagon spokesman Larry DiRita said Sunday, “I don't doubt every colonel wishes he had more in his area, but the decisions about how troops are (deployed) are made by the commanders above them.”
Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has said that he would authorize an increase in the number of troops in Iraq if top commanders asked for them. The Pentagon says that so far they haven't.
I guess they wanta keep their top commander jobs.
what GWB
will do as an ex-president?
Reality TV. Make him eat weird shit then kick him off the whatever
I vote we leave him on the island -- and burn all the boats.
Y'know, Iraq might do better without a written constitution.
I always thought it was bizarre that GOP wingers were always so rah rah for war. I guess after W kills off enough red state soldiers they may want to reconsider their position. then blame the Dems for the whole damned thing.
Tony Snow was like, "Gosh! That bad? OK, we'll be right back."
Snow [off camera]: who booked those pansey liberal surrender monkeys on my show?
may not know the language or anything about the people they are advising, and may even have *no experience* in the topic on which they are advising.
And this news, why? How?
I know. It's intended as... Oh fuck! Nevermind.
I vote we leave him on the island -- and burn all the boats.
Toonscribe | Email | 08.20.05 - 1:18 pm | #
it's been a long time since i've seen a good old fashioned viking funeral.
/thor
flory - Cheney decided to buy the company with all the asbestos liability which has turned out to be much greater than they estimated. It has been a real albatross around Halliburtons neck, and still is. Probably one of the biggest fiasco's in recent M&A's corporate history.
TO be fair. Fox does have to let their viwers down off their bubble slowly, so as to not endanger the lives of millions of the cult followers.
He was pretty much saying the security handover thing is not gonna work as undertaken.
Who cares? Once our troops are outa there, its not like the media are gonna be writing any stories about it.
most unnecessary "newz" report of the day: Merk Appeals Vioxx Verdict
Afternoon all.
I didn't catch where Yglesias addresses what the "plan" was in the first place. Can HE summarize what our military is supposed to be accomplishing in Iraq, specifically?
It has been a real albatross around Halliburtons neck, and still is. Probably one of the biggest fiasco's in recent M&A's corporate history.
chris/tx
So naturally, that makes him attractive to Shrub. The moron found a bigger fuck-up than himself and promoted him. You cannot make this shit UP!
I didn't catch where Yglesias addresses what the "plan" was in the first place. Can HE summarize what our military is supposed to be accomplishing in Iraq, specifically?
9/11! terrorists! yellowcake! white icing! freeeeeeeee-dom!
real patriots don't ask questions! stay the course!
This is the inevitable result you can always expect from a trigger- happy, fantasyland commander-in-chief, who regards reading anything of greater substance than People magazine as the mark of a pussy.
it has been a real albatross around Halliburtons neck, and still is.
Yeah - I know. That's why they were trying to slip the 'freedom from asbestos liability' legislation thru.
My point was just that all the people now blaming Cheney for the fuck-up were undoubtedly writing detailed analyses in support of it back in the day.
It's always the last guys fault. Absolves anyone still employed of blame.
It has been a real albatross around Halliburtons neck, and still is
ALBATROSS! ALBATROSS!
ok, my battery is at 21%, rehearsal is in 15 minutes, and i've been reduced to shouting sentance fragments and single words. time to go. see youse later, yeah?
Merk Appeals Vioxx Verdict
Well DUH!
Before I get off on a rant, does anyone know if that 250 million dollar judgement was for a single ligitaor or was it for a whole buncha people?
I'm thinking it's for one person.
Ithink that that amount really is excessive. 250 million dollars in damages really helps make the claim that tort reform is a necessity (which I dont believe). I don't know what the answer is, but I can believe that there are many who should share in this "award". Surely it was not only one person who died asa result of this drug.
I do understand that the jury was sending a message. But there should be other factors in deciding how much "settlement should be awarded.
I guess I'm talking both sides of the argument. But this is absurdly ridiculous.
A SOUTHERN IRAQ MILITARY FACILITY, Feb. 15, 2005 – Between 8,000 and 10,000 men arrived by foot, bus and other means by sun-up Feb. 14 at an airfield outside an Iraqi army base to join the Iraq's army, officials said.
How do they separate the evil Iraqis from the nonevil ones? An evil Iraqi might pretend to be nonevil, and lower the morale of the whole unit.
My point was just that all the people now blaming Cheney for the fuck-up were undoubtedly writing detailed analyses in support of it back in the day.
True. As the story goes, they all thought Cheney would get legislation passed (as you noted) after they bought the company (Dresser?) to limit the liability on asbestos damage.
The evil ones have autographed copies of Rick Santorum's new book?
May I nominate Norah O'Donnell to be the Wanker of the Day?
For explanation, go to today's Daily Howler and scroll down a bit . . .
I haven't posted in a while, and I need another cup of coffee this morning, but I do want to echo this:
Sheehan is incredibly good. That bit that dave quoted above is magnificent. The anti-war movement could not ask for a better spokesperson.
Personally, I think there is much to be said of democrats or anyone to argue that the national guards are not to be used in any military operations that take place outside U.S borders.
They're called the 'National' Guard for a reason, and to use them merely as an extension of the two main branches of the military belies their original intent based upon what I know it to have been. But since the downgrading of the military in the 90's as part of the so-called 'peace dividend' the national guard was made more of a supplement to the army and navy as many men and women wanted to serve their country should it be directly attacked, rather than be part of an invasion force. Some might suggest that 9/11 was such an attack, and the iraq war is our counter attack, but that still remains a duty for the army and navy, not the national guard.
The same thing can also be said of the army reserves. When the reserves are called up from the get-go then serious questions need to be asked whether they really are 'reserves' and not just another supplement to the army. In that case they should decide to stop using the name reserves and simply call them front line troops for the army rather than real 'reserves'.
MYOB'
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How do they separate the evil Iraqis from the nonevil ones? An evil Iraqi might pretend to be nonevil, and lower the morale of the whole unit.
I'd be more worried about the "evil" Iraqis taking military training and then using it for the resistance, which is evidently just what's been happening with about 50% of the trainees (can't recall where I saw that statistic, unfortunately)
Tony Snow was like, "Gosh! That bad? OK, we'll be right back."
I was like, "Who hit these guys with the reality stick?".
I wonder if anyone ever died from a reality stick. It has to be a deadly weapon to the non-reality based Bus$Co and friends.
Right now, Halliburton is paid to pump, ship and sell Iraqi Oil. Halliburton is also paid to keep the oil infrastructure working.
No civilian authority in Iraq has asked Halliburton for a penny of the oil profits. So Halliburton keeps all the profits from the oil sales. Oil who's costs plus bonuses are covered completely by the US taxpayer.
This means big bucks to Halliburton's bottom line. If a Civilian government did require Halliburton to give up any of the oil profits, it would be a loss to the corporation and a loss to the shareholders.
It is therefore Halliburton's corporate duty to prevent an Iraqi government from forming.
If an Iraqi government did gain authority over Halliburton, it would cost Halliburton many millions a month in profits.
250 million dollars in damages really helps make the claim that tort reform is a necessity (which I dont believe)
I believe in tort reform. And I assume we're all focusing on punitive, rather than compensatory damages.
My suggestion is that a personal recovery ceiling be established for puntive damages. A single litigant could receive, say 20 million maximum.
But the jury would have the leeway to hit the motherfucker trillion dollar offender in the nads in an amount that would cause some behavior modification.
The remainder would be placed in escrow and be paid out to bona fide future complainants, whether they be persons, states or municipalities.
Before I get off on a rant, does anyone know if that 250 million dollar judgement was for a single ligitaor or was it for a whole buncha people?
one person. actually, one person and her lawyers, so even if upheld (which it can't be under texas law), she wouldn't really get the whole amount.
3 questions to answer before decrying that the award was too much:
1) how liable was merck? mostly based on how dangerous they knew the drug to be in advance, and what they might have done to conceal that.
2) as a punitive damage, how would a smaller award affected them? $25 million, for example, would be a lot to me, but only the cost of an ad campaign for merck.
3) how much is a life worth?
I wonder if anyone ever died from a reality stick.
Naa, they just give em pacemakers.
OT, but today on Daily Catblogging, special guest star Rex Rabbit!
now i'm late for rehearsal, and only 10% of my ba-
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3) how much is a life worth?
Much more than a mere 250 million dollars.
Texas tort reform means that widow's award will be reduced to $2 million, tops. For punitive damages anyway. They don't tell the jury that before deliberations.
Before I get off on a rant, does anyone know if that 250 million dollar judgement was for a single ligitaor or was it for a whole buncha people?
One widow only. Better dump your Merk stock pronto.
Ya, I goota go and get a new power supply for one of my (bad) machines (bad bad bad). And take my daughter to a birthday party.
Be back later, batties.
I believe in tort reform.
Then you are a sucker.
The interesting aside on the Merk lawsuit is the guy that died ran marathons and taught aerobics. Merk was claiming he had a bad valve etc.
The interesting aside on the Merk lawsuit is the guy that died ran marathons and taught aerobics. Merk was claiming he had a bad valve etc.
maybe he meant the castle 'aaaaaaaaargh'