I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
aha!
Bush presidency: FIERY WRECK!
oh, and fuck Bush!
oh, and fuck Bush!
Frist hates my blog whoring.
Bastards! (taking my ball and going home).
A little VDH to get your heads cleared:
Every time Cindy Sheehan tries to adduce another writ against the current administration (a.k.a., "Bush crime family," "evil bastards in the administration," "f***ing hypocrites," "biggest terrorist in the world") — whether demanding a second private presidential meeting before so many other grieving families have had even one, or blaming Israel for the deaths of American soldiers — it has the opposite effect of what she intends. Under the sad logic of biteback, she reverses her own original position from the legitimate lament of a grieved mother trying to make sense out of the tragic loss of her brave son, to a deeply disturbed object of cynical partisan manipulation by the Michael Moore/Moveon.org Left.
Damn you spinoza, just damn you.
Rush & Hannity's ratings taking a nosedive...awe that's too fucking bad!
So did Bush crash yet? Did the training wheels fall off?
Rush & Hannity's ratings taking a nosedive...awe that's too fucking bad!
Just like Bush's, what a coincidence.
A fiery wreck? Sounds like the Mediacrat party to me.
Rush & Hannity's ratings taking a nosedive...awe that's too fucking bad!
Just like Bush's, what a coincidence.
And support for the war.
Rush & Hannity's ratings taking a nosedive...awe that's too fucking bad!
I'd love to see Rush Limpballs propped up against a wall in an alley, a tourniquet tied around whatever constitutes his bicep, and a dirty needle sticking out of his arm.
Is that wrong of me?
And really, how many times CAN I watch ROTK?
Every time Ci--
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
zzzzzzzzzz...
Lance is showing Bush how to use dried calf blood for stamina.
What's that I smell?
Right wing desperation!
Did anybody see that story earlier that they have agreed on Islamic law in the Iraqi constitution, and women are basically screwed?
And really, how many times CAN I watch ROTK?
I guarantee not as many as I can. I'm on TTT for the bazillionth time at the moment, but I'll get to ROTK in just a bit.
Wycliffe -- yeah, brilliant, whatever.
Just saw Big Fish for the first time. I don't have a great ear/eye for cinematic art, but I fucking LOVED it.
The Islamic People's Republic Of Parts Of Iraq. VICTORY!
And really, how many times CAN I watch ROTK?
watertiger | Email | Homepage | 08.20.05 - 5:14 pm | #
Do you sit through that heinous
song at the end?
"we're weighing where these shows fit for us in the future,"
Ok -- here's the deal.
When we get word of the first station shitcanning Limpballs we have a party.
'Mkay?
Mission accomplished? Then why are we there for 4 more years?
I love the smell of incompetence in the morning.
Bush won. When whoever the Republicans run in 2008 wins, will you automatically hate them too?
the dems really have their work cut out for them if they want to lose the next election.
And really, how many times CAN I watch ROTK?
watertiger
At a bare minimum?
At least one more than you already have.
Oh, latest relevant cast is now up. It gets the Hesiod Seal of Approval.
"Bush won."
No ones playing brownshirt....
Oh fucknuts... George's date with Lance...
the dems really have their work cut out for them if they want to lose the next election.
haha. I just popped in for some cheer and I got it.
Thanks, gary in fl!
I guarantee not as many as I can. I'm on TTT for the bazillionth time at the moment, but I'll get to ROTK in just a bit.
(sniff, sniff) Is that a *challenge* I smell? 
When we get word of the first station shitcanning Limpballs we have a party?
We've been doin' that for quite some time with Air America...baaaaaaawwwwwhaaa.
Did anybody see that story earlier that they have agreed on Islamic law in the Iraqi constitution, and women are basically screwed?
trifecta
As fucked as this is, I can't go beyond depression to anger in my reaction to it.
It was so completely fucking predictable.
It was so completely fucking predictable.
Ay-yup.
hey, gary in fl...
why aren't there any freakin shuttle buses from the Ft. Lauderdale airport to anywhere further than 5 miles?
I'm gonna have to rent a car which just steams me.
Bush won. When whoever the Republicans run in 2008 wins, will you automatically hate them too?
Assuming, for the sake of argument, that Bush "won" and the country for some incredibly stupid reason fails to turn out these bastards in '08, I will certainly give the next GOP prez the benefit of the doubt if he had no hand in the clusterfuck in Iraq, confirming Bolton or passing the USA PATRIOT act.
"...they have agreed on Islamic law in the Iraqi constitution, and women are basically screwed?"
--trifecta
Worse than Saddam. Goddamn, motherfucking shit.
Sorry for the profanity, but at this point there is no other words.
One of the suspects in the Jordanian rocket attack on the US navy is Iraqi. Flypaper has created Superfly.
Amigos, allow me...
*ahem* (adopts ludicrously rumbly falsetto)
Oooooooo look at me everrrybody!
(waves arms feebly)
I am the how-joo-say "concerned" trollita, eh?
(standing on hind legs wringing hands worriedly)
Eef only la Cynthia would do as I, la trollita, theenk she should, well then, her arrrguments, they would be ever so much more forrrceful, jes?
(pointing finger at other posters)
Eef joo steenky Democratistas rrreally want to end the war een Iraq, joo should eencrease the amount of butt-keessing that joo geeve to our Dearrr Leader.
(crossing paws, affecting a look both self-satisfied and yet strangely despondent)
Eet pains me to have to point out jour irrrrrrational behavior, but such ees the crrross that I, the concerned trollita, must bear.
(heavy sigh)
*ahem*!!!
(Falls back into normal beloved and well known rolling baritone)
so.
Grrrr. Just posted this below.
From The Nation Max Blumenthal writes:
With the revelation of Roberts's involvement in the Romer case, right-wing activists began jumping ship. The leader of a Virginia antigay group, Public Advocate, yanked support with the declaration, "'Freedom' is not embracing perversion." Joseph Farah, editor of the heavily trafficked far-right webzine WorldNetDaily, attacked Justice Sunday's planners in thinly veiled language in an August 12 column: "We now have 'conservative' organizations leading the fight for confirmation of a man [Roberts] who is certain to be a grave disappointment to them." Perhaps most important, Gary Bauer, the former Family Research Council president who built the organization into one of Washington's largest conservative operations during the 1990s, denounced the Bush White House in his daily newsletter for picking a "stealth nominee" and questioned their refusal to release 50,000 pages of Reagan-era Roberts documents.
Just what the fuck to these fuckwits want? Zell Miller for SCOTUS?
Next question. If the repukes can come out against Roberts, why are the Dems saying they are not going to put up a fight. Roberts has demonstrated a marked antipathy for civil rights. Especially as they pertain to women. Don't we count anymore? Or have the American Taliban already taken over.
(Although these days, the idea of being forced to stay home doesn't sound quite so bad. I just want to be the one to make the choice.)
"Bush won."
Cheaters never prosper.
" The leader of the free world and the world's biking master rode for 17 miles on Bush's ranch for about two hours at midmorning"
The leader of the free world prides himself on being an athlete, but the speed him and lance rode at was not that much faster then a walking pace, 8.5 mph.
Bush won. When whoever the Republicans run in 2008 wins, will you automatically hate them too?
Wycliffe
This is why I skipped over the comment on Cindy Sheehan.
The quality of analysis speaks for itself.
¡El Gato Negro!
*
there "are" no...
Very upset with my country right now, so please excuse the verb.
and women are basically screwed?
Gee, that' such a surprise.
I'll bring the fucking champagne!
Aiiight.
Calling car rental companies now.
Later, folks...
Why do men fear women so much?
I fear my wife, but I have good reason. She's scary.
But seriously, what is the deal.
"It was so completely fucking predictable."
flory, Business Manager
So was civil war, and that will be next.
Did anyone in Bushco ever stop to think just why Saddam was so despotic? Because it was the only way of keeping the country together. Prepare for total meltdown.
The leader of the free world prides himself on being an athlete, but the speed him and lance rode at was not that much faster then a walking pace, 8.5 mph.
Yeah, then just as they got back to the house and the group of reporters, Bush pumped it and flew by the photographers shrieking, "I won! I won!"
Hey, it worked in elections ...
I will certainly give the next GOP prez the benefit of the doubt if he had no hand in the clusterfuck in Iraq, confirming Bolton or passing the USA PATRIOT act.
NTodd
I'm pretty sure you have to be over the age of consent to be preznit.
So which Republican would we be, hypothetically, speaking of here?
I mean of course to Flory's party.
WT, a woman I used to work with actually had that picture on her desk. She was pushing 40 and swear to god, I think she was a virgin. She left over a year ago and came back for a visit. I was too busy to go to lunch with her.
Did anyone in Bushco ever stop to think...
Eef joo steenky Democratistas rrreally want to end the war een Iraq, joo should eencrease the amount of butt-keessing that joo geeve to our Dearrr Leader.
el Gato Negro captures the essence of the species concernedarist trollista
First!
.
Don't we count anymore? Or have the American Taliban already taken over.
This is rhetorical, right?
You have been visited by the Army Of The Twelve Gritos.
We beg you NOT to visit the site of the secret conspiracy: http://www.armyofthe12gritos.com
Just look at how well things went after the Civil War, or after the 13th amendment was passed, or even the Civil Rights Act. It was the law, but how many people had their rights abridged in spite of it? The Iraqis might be strong-armed into not formalizing Islamic law, for the present, but that has nothing to do with what actually happens.
Anyone who thinks writing law equals solving problems need look no further than the glorious and wildly successful war on drugs to see how the results pan out. Will of the people, ya know.
That fabulous furry freak feline is fantastic.
Yep, time for more babes in burqas.
Thanks a lot, Bubble Boy.
I mean of course to Flory's party.
We'll get sallyh to bake. Make up a few recipes from Cooking Liberally.
It'll be a hell of a party.
Gary Bauer, the former Family Research Council president who built the organization into one of Washington's largest conservative operations during the 1990s, denounced the Bush White House in his daily newsletter for picking a "stealth nominee" and questioned their refusal to release 50,000 pages of Reagan-era Roberts documents.
Does this mean Roberts will not be confirmed?
Bwhahahahahahaha.
Like hell.
I was gonna ask the troll to blow
me, but it's too humid.
So was civil war, and that will be next.
By all accounts it is already here. But since any area outside the Green Zone is too dangerous for anyone to go to, we just don't have any hard reporting on it.
And btw, I did italicize the Blumenthal quote above. Helloscam decided to ignore me.
can I add a fuck Bush!
That fabulous furry freak feline is fantastic.
©smalfish
freak?
Not our el Gato!!
A highly edjumicated, suave and debonair feline indedd.
Why do men fear women so much?
I fear my wife, but I have good reason. She's scary.
But seriously, what is the deal.
A friend of mine, ex-Army grunt, kickboxer, Golden Gloves boxer, Puerto Rican, born and raised in Bushwick, and . . . an artist . . . offers this explanation:
Women can have babies.
Anyone nostalgic for Steve the Dell computer kid? Me neither but here he is dressed as an elf. I was actually trying to find a still of Bob Newhart from the movie Elf, but this kid is persistent:
Worst. Elf. Ever.
Aaaargh!
Just spent a miserable about an hour trying to get back on Eschaton. I hit refresh and the whole thread disappeared and would not come back. Nothing showed since the Yglesias thread.
if the Bush junta really wanted to protect their oil interests Saudi would be a perfect target, small population and a ruling house that was unpopular.
if they want to sort out the ME deal with Saudi.
why don't the Bush junta get this?
"Women can have babies."
and are therefore all sorceresses.
Not our el Gato!!
A highly edjumicated, suave and debonair feline indedd.
A cat with as highly defined political savy as that one is most certainly a freak.
Kate Beckinsale could have me if
she played her cards right.
Just saying......
why don't the Bush junta get this?
Moonbootica
Oh, they get it, all right. They get that the Saudis have our oil under their sand, and the people who the maladministration actually give a shit about -- their buddies in the awl bidness -- cannot have their profit stream disrupted.
Steve, it would be simplier if you'd just list the ones that could NOT have you.
The leader of the free world prides himself on being an athlete, but the speed him and lance rode at was not that much faster then a walking pace, 8.5 mph.
Actually, if he was really riding a technical trail, and not on-road, that's not bad. And I think you overestimate a typical walking pace--I have long legs and walk extremely briskly, and my average pace is probably 4mph...
A little off topic, if there is such a thing for an open thread.
Anyone need any figs? I walked out my back door a few minutes ago and the fig tree has so many ripe figs I'm not sure what to do with them.
I just pucked one off the tree and took a bite and thought I was in a D. H. L. novel.
Kate Beckinsale could have me if
she played her cards right.
I don't care what kind of card player she is. She can have me.
*looks around to see if Mrs Toonscribe is in the room*
Toonscribe,
when that happens, go through the archives. For some reason, that works.
Hey Draco,
he's making a living in show business. More than I can say for untold thousands of wannabees. Give him a break. growing up I knew an actress who made a living at her craft. Of course, she had to do Sunday morning religious programs on the radio, walk ons as a maid in soaps, etc. Bu hey, she made a living.
Worst. Elf. Ever.
Oh, ,a href="http://www.pixyland.org/peterpan/">I don't know about that
Anyone need any figs?
Are you offering peace?
I thought we were all freinds here (excluding trolls, of course)?
Steve, it would be simplier if you'd just list the ones that could NOT have you.
Doug, | Email | Homepage | 08.20.05 - 5:38 pm | #
You know me so well.
Steve, it would be simplier if you'd just list the ones that could NOT have you.
Haha, my wife says that to me all the time. She'll ask me if I think some woman is pretty, and my response is usually, "I'd do her".
To which she always responds, "would you just tell me who you wouldn't do?"
Does this look technical to you?
Or how about:
Worst. Elf. Ever.
Oh, I don't know about that.
I don't care what kind of card player she is. She can have me.
That one be some high maintance. Sure you can afford the payments?
mer -- a friend of mine made a fig confit with onions that we ate with duck; it was beyond words. if you'd like I can get you the recipe from her this evening.
You can dry them; you can send me a bushel . . .
When whoever the Republicans run in 2008 wins, will you automatically hate them too?
I never despised a republican president until georgie came along. I was disappointed that Reagan, a Hollywood actor, fer chrissake, was elected, and the country as a whole didn't do all that well while he stumbled, but at least he projected the presidential image well enough when called upon. Actor and all that.
But this clod? This ignorant, insensitive, hypocritical, arrogant piece of shit that's in there now?
Fuck him and all who continue to support him.
You're all repulsive.
Iraqi held' over Jordan attacks
An Iraqi suspect has been detained in Jordan by security forces investigating a rocket attack on Friday, security sources say.
Three rockets were fired from a depot in the port of Aqaba, killing a Jordanian soldier on the dockside.
One missile landed in Israel, causing no injuries; another narrowly missed a US warship anchored in the port.
The authorities have said they are hunting up to six people of Syrian, Egyptian and Iraqi nationalities.
"Security forces arrested the Iraqi suspect
Hecate, Thank you for the wonderful Mary Oliver poem. Her poems are always so resonant and pure.
"Are you offering peace?"
--©smalfish
I feel like I have been offering peace my whole life. Some people accept it, many more are not. At this point.
According to my Hesiod Comment Scoring Handbook, I'm afraid mer's post about figs is irrelevant.
Oh, Moonbootica (this time I spelled your name right!) - the lovely and amazing Mrs. Bergeron and I are going to be in London in mid-September. What does the weather tend to be like around that time?
"Actually, if he was really riding a technical trail"
In Crawford Tx, flatland with all of the brush removed? Naw. Now around here I could find some trails that would tax any rider.
freeking magnetic boulders, to bash your derailier, or frame. darned near vertical hills, and lots of streams and logs to hop.
A cat with as highly defined political savy as that one is most certainly a freak.
©smalfish
You're just admitting you're not fluent in Felinish and cannot communicate with kitties.....
mer,
Get some good greens, cut the figs into quarters, add some good crumbled goat cheese, sprinkle with a good vinagrette. Mmmm.
My figs are all still hard and green. Just about the time that they're ready to eat, the birds and squirrels will beat me to them.
Worst. Elf. Ever.
Oh, I don't know about that.
I think Col. Kurtz said it best:
"The horror. The horror."
H. G. Bergeron the weather is ok. good month to visit Septemeber. Very settled weather normally but bring an umbrella
H. G. Bergeron ~ it won't be cold, warm and wet maybe but don't worry about being cold.
how long are you here for?
Actually, if he was really riding a technical trail, and not on-road, that's not bad.
Speaking of which......
How's that training coming along?
Eschacon is less than two weeks away!!
Does this look technical to you?
No, that particular shot doesn't look technical. But still, you ain't going to go 20 mph on scrub like that, he does have some hilly woods IIRC, and this was a leisurely, photo-op ride.
NTodd, was that really hesiod?
I had to leave for awhile, but wasn't he name-stolen for sure later?
You're just admitting you're not fluent in Felinish and cannot communicate with kitties.....
I can too. All I have to do is climb into my freezer.
Anyone need any figs? I walked out my back door a few minutes ago and the fig tree has so many ripe figs I'm not sure what to do with them.
Take some balsamic vinegar and add a teaspoon of sugar. Reduce it to a syrup.
Slice a fig in half and wrap it and a shave of parmesagn in a strip of proscuitto.
Drizzle the whole biz with some of the balsamic reduction.
Then invite us all over. I'll bring wine.
watertiger
Yeah, I've gone through the archives before, but this time that didn't work either. Don't know what the hell happened. In over a year of posting here, I've never had that particular wierdness before.
pie -- I describe Reagan as my warm-up hatred president. I had no idea I could loathe a president -- or even a person -- the way I loathe this dishonest, incompetent, spoiled, manipulative, shallow, deceitful . . . hell.
Very settled weather normally but bring an umbrella
Oh my yes. I might actually bring my London Fog coat too, so that it can meet its cousins.
Thanks for the info.
No, that particular shot doesn't look technical. But still, you ain't going to go 20 mph on scrub like that, he does have some hilly woods IIRC, and this was a leisurely, photo-op ride.
"Oh, you're no fun anymore!"
That Peter Pan site has had over 7 and 1/2 million hits.
Wow.
pie -- I describe Reagan as my warm-up hatred president.
That's sort of the take the Rude Pundit did on him in his Fringe Festival show, too.
I make a mean pear & fig tart.
but mostly I prefer just eating figs as they are.
Slice a fig in half and wrap it and a shave of parmesagn in a strip of proscuitto.
Yummmmmmmmm.
I think Col. Kurtz said it best:
"The horror. The horror.
Beleive it or not, the Little Lord Fauntleroy pictures are worse.
And there is much, much, more.
it's so hot here i could use a fig leaf.
QL--Sorry for insulting Ben Curtis who played Steve, but I remember when he went to NYU and said he was performing--what else--Shakespeare. He might have been good for all I know but really...
Carpbasman--You've certainly found a serious loon, like the woman who used to play Underdog every week on NY public access cable. But Michael Jackson might send goons to beat this rival Peter Pan up
We'll be in London for about ten days. Our first real vacation since our honeymoon. Lovely and Amazing says we should get our traveling in while we can, before things get too hectic in the Bergeron household.
mer:
If you're offering to send figs -- I'll take a few.
Virginia:
I would love that fig confit recipe as well, if you'd be so kind.
Hell, I never despised a President until georgie came along.
An Iraqi suspect has been detained in Jordan by security forces investigating a rocket attack on Friday, security sources say.
Wow. Bush's first bona fide Iraqi international turrist. He must be so proud.
To echo pie's comment above, I didn't like Reagan as Bush I when they were President, but I did not hate them.
George W. is different (and I do loathe and despise him and his fanatic supporters) I'd take Reagan as President (dead or alive) in a fucking heartbeat and be relieved that would be a far better president than this fascist asshole could ever be.
it's so hot here i could use a fig leaf.
well, you know what they say:
Nude before seven, laid by eleven.
or something like that.
like the woman who used to
play Underdog every week on NY public access cable
Jesus -- I saw her do it live once.
Seriously.....
Prince Chimpy is like an automaton, isn't he?
Rove programs him and he spouts all these inanities.
September 11...liberty...freedom..bring it on...September 11...liberty...freedom..bring it on...September 11....liberty...freedom..bring it on...September 11....
He's pathetic!
The people who continue to support him are even more pathetic.
How's that training coming along?
Oh, very well. I'm planning on riding 14,000 miles a day. Starting next week.
I got to thinking while driving this afternoon.
THe chimp would be just about as irrelevant as any other person if it were not for this dammed war. I mean, besides fuck up another country or two, WTF has he done, other than go on vacation and sign crackpot laws?
Bush presidency - almost irrelevant.
Now, the GOP is a whole 'nother ballgame. THEY are the evil bastards. They are the ones who are doing the most damage IMO. THey are the ones who are riding his coattails and getting all this bullshit stirred up.
Just an opinion, I *COULD* be wrong.
watertiger ... Look! It's my new apartment. I am going to live there with my new Not-Mister from "Six Feet Under."
Actually, if he was really riding a technical trail, and not on-road, that's not bad.<
There is a picture of the Chimp and Sellout Armstrong on their ride at SI.com. Read the article and throw up from the pure cheesiness and white trash dialogue the asshole in chief spews.
Nude before seven, laid by eleven.
WHoo Hoo!
I like it. Can we have a national law that says something like that?
I heartily disliked Nixon.
I detested Reagan.
I despised Bush I.
I hate THIS asshole with ever fiber of my being.
NTodd, was that really hesiod?
Don't know, don't care. I like making fun of him.
Carpasman -- that was most disturbing.
carpbasman:
that's just so wrong.....
H. G. Bergeron ~ do you plan to travel anywhere outside London?
EVERY fiber.
I can't think of anything BAD enough to WISH on him!
Wycliffe | 08.20.05 - 5:06 pm | #
Why don't you go blow Ann Coulter, Wycliffe.
Maybe Michelle Malkin will join you in a threesome.
Jesus -- I saw her do it live once.
Seriously.....
simels ... Remember Ugly George?
Returning to Cindy Sheehan for no good reason, and only for a moment...
It's amusing how all the usual attempts to reframe her actions ("spin") and thus establish a debate to her detriment, just aren't working.
Actions speak louder, and all that. Bush's actions have finally outshouted his words, and Ms. Sheehan is the foil that brings out his lack of luster.
Chickens. Coming home to roost. And no amout of spin will change the perception of reality this time.
Because her grief is real; the ultimately real thing. And the cause for her grief is real, also the ultimately real thing.
Reality trumps fantasy. Actions trump words. And so the attempts to re-describe her, continue to fail.
O frabjous day, calloo, callay.
Wow...this Van Helsin movies is a
real bag of gas, notwithstanding
Beckinsale and Hugh Jackman.
Yipes!
watertiger ... Look! It's my new apartment. I am going to live there with my new Not-Mister from "Six Feet Under."
Hahahahaha! It's good to be the king!
Hell, I never despised a President until georgie came along.
i lost my cherry of hatred for reagan. sre he was adottering old fool, but he was aware enough to be indifferent to the evil and murderous suffering he causd the world over- he even left a false legacy for the facist to distort, exploit, and repeat. However, i too hate puppetgeorge more than any other.
I hated Nixon really, really badly. Didn't like Regean or Bush I. I hate Bush II and all that he's done to this country and the world.
I also hated Strom Thurmond and George Wallace.
I try not to hate, but it is the only logical response to certain people.
On a totally different point, I still can't figure out how to download NTodd's podcasts onto my iPod, but the ITunes store has free podcasts by Discordians, which is an amazing thing. And some funny wiccans called, big surprise, Storm and Sorcha. Swear to Jebuz, wiccan names are so silly. At least we're (mostly) over the Lord This and Lady That nonsense. Most wiccans are really named Bob and Jennifer, I think, but they wish they were named Storm, or Rowan, or Raven, or Elliriya.
Me, I'm really named Hecate Demetersdatter.
Res:
Wow!! What a steal at only $3.3 million. And the maintenance fees are wicked low -- only $3500/month.
simels,
i have that detritus on the tube in the background. Pure, unadulterated, CRAP!
Bush won. When whoever the Republicans run in 2008 wins, will you automatically hate them too?
Wycliffe
Dream on, Nazi!
well, you know what they say:
Nude before seven, laid by eleven.
or something like that.
watertiger
Unless there are young children in the house....or, worse, teenagers.
Beleive it or not, the Little Lord Fauntleroy pictures are worse.
Yeah, but I think that chick in the last photo is teh sexy. Does that make me a bad person?
simels ... Remember Ugly George?
res ipsa loquitur | 08.20.05 - 5:57 pm | #
A dear friend of mine actually
movied into his apartment years ago.
She had it disinfected, first.....
And do you remember the guy that
did the nude talk show on cable?
Everybody called him Rabbi Dan, but
I can't recall his real name.....
Like Hecate, my despising of President's goes back to Nixon.
But W. is making me reconsider just how bad a President can be. Nixon was my benchmark.
No longer.
Carpbasman--You've certainly found a serious loon, like the woman who used to play Underdog every week on NY public access cable. But Michael Jackson might send goons to beat this rival Peter Pan up
Ehh, I didn't find him. He's been on Conan O'Brien and he's all over the internets
Next you guys 'll tell me you haven't heard of Tron Guy.
Wow!! What a steal at only $3.3 million. And the maintenance fees are wicked low -- only $3500/month.
I know. But it's pretty, isn't it?
It's fun to look at house porn.
Man, my spelling is really bad today.
the dems really have their worzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
I'm planning on riding 14,000 miles a day. Starting next week.
NTodd
Now don't get carried away. You still have most of two weeks. You only need...ummm...a little over 1600 miles per day to catch up.
UnCurious George is actually worse than Reagan. Without a doubt.
flory ... Here's another purty one. You get a Dakota view!
Here's something from the Peter Pan site:
"Here's a recently updated page with afew of the Peter Pan outfits I've made for events like TV interviews and the Webby awards, including a nice Velvet one."
Let me turn into William Safire for a minute and point out thatit's not clear if he's referring to a velvet outfit or a velvet award.
I just want to know who these people are who can afford $3500/month for maintenance.
and do they have any single brothers?
I've hated 'em all, I guess. But I came of age during Nixon so I had inspiration.
Hating him established the one guiding rule of my life. I have never knowingly fucked a republican.
Moonbootica, we've talked about Stratford, and we do want to see more of the country than Big Ben and the Palace, but we haven't made a firm itinerary. It all depends, too, on what I decide to see of the Bloomsbury group sites. I want to see some Orwell stuff, too, but I'm not going to Jura.
flory ... Here's another purty one. You get a Dakota view!
res, for 1.65 mil, I want a bigger kitchen than THAT!
Its the same with me, Bush has made me discover hate. He appalls me as does his Junta. I find myself getting angrier and angerier with the conduct of both Bush and Blair.
Bush defends cost of Iraq war
CRAWFORD, United States (AFP) - US President George W. Bush, besieged at his ranch by relatives of US soldiers killed in Iraq, launched a five-day campaign to defend the war to an increasingly skeptical US public.
In his weekly radio address from his Prairie Chapel property, Bush said that the war would help avert another attack like the September 11 terrorist strikes and that the best way to honor fallen US troops was to defeat global terrorism.
"We must finish the task that our troops have given their lives for and honor their sacrifice by completing their mission," said Bush, whose approval ratings have slipped to some of the lowest levels of his presidency.
More than 1,800 US soldiers have been killed in Iraq and thousands more wounded in a conflict with a price tag in the tens of billions of dollars.
A recent poll found that a majority of Americans -- 57 percent -- believe that the war has made the United States more vulnerable to terrorist attacks, despite Bush's frequent arguments that the conflict has made them safer.
And do you remember the guy that
did the nude talk show on cable?
Yeah, I do actually. I even remember when it was called "Channel J."
One day in con law we did this case about obscenity and cable access. The professor asked if anyone knew which show prompted the case and I was the only one in the class who knew the answer (Robin Byrd). No one else in the class had ever heard of her.
I felt soooooo old.
...this Van Helsing movie is a
real bag of gas...
Some cable outfit - maybe SciFi - did a really weird, cheesy remake of "House of Frankenstein" a few years ago. "Van Helsing" made that look like "Citizen Kane."
BTW, tonight on TCM: "Vertigo" (8pm EDT, 5 pm PDT), followed by "Rear Window."
I really hate when they show these things out of chronological order...
A cat with as highly defined political savy as that one is most certainly a freak.
©smalfish
yes, but a beautiful freak indeed.
wycliffe hates america? why?
if more democrats, and republicans for that matter, had the cajones Cindy does, we would not be in this mess. she is willing to call a lie a lie. sounds harsh, but the evidence is in, and apparently americans of all stripes are beggining to see the truth. perhaps a little late, too late...
a decent, honest, congress would be holding hearings right now. on the intelligence fixed around the drive for war, the allegations of torture, the outing of a CIA agent for political payback, and wouldn't be bad if they looked into this help america vote bullshit. in fact they are doing exactly the opposite in all these arenas.
But W. is making me reconsider just how bad a President can be. Nixon was my benchmark.
Our very own 'axis of evil'. From Nixon right on thru to Chimpy.
The two poles of evil.
Greets, moonbats. Hope your day's going well.
I guarantee not as many as I can. I'm on TTT for the bazillionth time at the moment, but I'll get to ROTK in just a bit.
(sniff, sniff) Is that a *challenge* I smell?
watertiger | Email | Homepage | 08.20.05 - 5:20 pm
Don't even, y'all. And, steve s., I love that song at the end. But then, it's Annie Lennox.
o yeah, well i hated eisenhower.
Bush won. When whoever the Republicans run in 2008 wins, will you automatically hate them too?
Wycliffe
both of these are open questions-
but Wycliffe why did bush insist on cheney being right next to him when questioned by 9/11 comission?
no oath
no transcript
no video
why?
why?
Just an opinion, I *COULD* be wrong.
Oh, you're absolutely correct. georgie's just a little puppet named pinocchio.
Ooh! Figs! E-mail me. I've been trying to hunt some down. Where are you? I'm in Norcal.
Oh, and res ipsa loguitur: amen re: new apartment and les accoutrements.
But W. is making me reconsider just how bad a President can be. Nixon was my benchmark.
Our very own 'axis of evil'. From Nixon right on thru to Chimpy.
The two poles of evil.
flory, Business Manager | Email | 08.20.05 - 6:05 pm
I must admit I agree with trifecta. Reagan was worse than Nixon, but Chimpy is way the hell worse than Reagan.
baaaaaaawwwwwhaaa.?
Is this puking? The idiot can't even spell a laugh.
res ipsa,
House porn doesn't do it for me; I'm too in love with my little cottage, but garden porn gets me every time.
NTodd - No. Pantslessness, irrelevance, and pony envy make you evil.
Now don't get carried away. You still have most of two weeks. You only need...ummm...a little over 1600 miles per day to catch up.
I like to challenge myself with unrealistic goals...
H. G. Bergeron I recommend you visit Bath for a day out. Stratford is overrated
Its about an hour and 20 min on the train.
My town town of Devizes is 24 miles from Bath.
And speaking of disturbingsome things should just never be photgraphed(scroll down for egregious fat man in tights pics)
Geez, georgie makes me forget all about Nixon.
He got his. georgie needs the same fate or worse.
Lots to do before next year.
This is my second attempt. Helloscam is really fucked up today.
Hell, I never despised a President until georgie came along.
pie
When w was selected, I figured Hey, how bad can it be. We survived Reagan. But when he used 9/11 as an excuse to wage war against Iraq, and we found out he did nothing to stop 9/11, my rage started to build to the point where I honestly believe he is the anti-christ. He has so divided the country and unleashed such hateful rhetoric. Really, I do believe he may be the devil. And I'm pretty much of an atheist.
Bush won. When whoever the Republicans run in 2008 wins, will you automatically hate them too?
I'm the radical organizer son of a union man son of an Louisiana okra farmer.
I'm genetically predisposed to hating Republicans.
Beeotch.
Reagan was worse than Nixon,
filkertom,
Far be it from me to disagree with the world's greatest filker, but Nixon was worse than Reagan. Nixon consorted with McCarthy, for Goddess sake.
Pantslessness, irrelevance, and pony envy make you evil.
Oh, whew...that means I can still be a lecherous old man!
CRAWFORD, United States (AFP) - US President George W. Bush, besieged at his ranch by relatives of US soldiers killed in Iraq, launched a five-day campaign to defend the war to an increasingly skeptical US public.
You have no idea how much I enjoy reading an article that starts that way.
"We must finish the task that our troops have given their lives for and honor their sacrifice by completing their mission," said Bush, whose approval ratings have slipped to some of the lowest levels of his presidency.
We can only honor the dead by killing more Americans senselessly and without purpose, in pursuit of an ambiguous goal the President refuses to define, or even explain to one woman on his doorstep.
Can somebody please explain the logic of that to me?
Alright, youse guys. I'm heading out to movies and dinner. Will let you know how "Red Eye" is. Wes Craven is getting REALLY good reviews with this one.
later gators.
Whoa, I think I slept for like 12 hours. I needed it.
I'm the radical organizer son of a union man son of an Louisiana okra farmer
Oooh, bona fides!
I'm the feminist wiccan daughter of a union speech writer and a Dorothy Day catholic.
I have never knowingly fucked a republican.
Cue Al F. as Strom:
Duh peckuh ... it knows no politics!
Katherine: Senator Thurmond, could I talk to Al please?
Oh, whew...that means I can still be a lecherous old man!
As if!
Why, your just being glib.
RMJ, is that an updated Pickler?
Only a 5 day campaign. Hell he gave 60 to killing SS...
Carpbasman -- now, now. I was at the convention where that costume premiered. I would say that it took a lot of, er, guts to wear it, but, honestly, I'm way more huge than him.
I just want to know who these people are who can afford $3500/month for maintenance.
Same people who can afford a 3.3 million apartment apparently. I live in fly-over land, the entire value of my house was less than the down payment my brother put on his house in Chevy Chase a few years back...
You have no idea how much I enjoy reading an article that starts that way.
Momentum, bitches! Start planning now for Sept. 24th.
I just want to know who these people are who can afford $3500/month for maintenance.
Darling WT:
If you can swing the $3.3 million asking price -- what's a few more bucks for garbage pickup?
But I would like to meet the brother....uncle -- whatever.
Oooh, bona fides!
Me? I'm just a nobody, who knows nothin, going nowhere.
BUt at least I gots a sense of humor.
Reagan was worse than Nixon,
filkertom,
Far be it from me to disagree with the world's greatest filker, but Nixon was worse than Reagan. Nixon consorted with McCarthy, for Goddess sake.
Hecate
Reagan was a senile empty suit, suffering from Alzheimer's long before the left office (ask Lesley Stahl, who recognized it but "protected" the rest of us from the truth).
Nixon was venal. But at least he had enough backbone to face his critics. He went down to the Mall to talk to anti-war protesters.
Bush overflies them with an armed SS agent in a helicopter.
He is a very, very small man. And he makes Nixon look like a Sunday school teacher, I'm beginning to think.
filkertom... I enjoyed the podcast you did with NTodd... now I know that "Filking" is safe to Google at work!
"The hills are alive... ARGGGHH" still has me chuckling
I have never knowingly fucked a republican.
I have. Some of them were quite good. But sex is somehow divorced from the rest of their lives in a way I can't comprehand.
Bill Maher was sickening last night:
"Well, he DID get elected twice to the highest office in the country..."
And if Maher BELIEVES that, he's as dumb as Bush.
Hecate: I'm the feminist wiccan daughter of a union speech writer and a Dorothy Day catholic.
Way cool. I love lefty bona fides!
res, for 1.65 mil, I want a bigger kitchen than THAT!
watertiger
What WT said.
And I guess you need to get over $3 million before you get an actual tub in your bathroom.
Can somebody please explain the logic of that to me?
Insanity means never having to say your sorry.
When whoever the Republicans run in 2008 wins, will you automatically hate them too?
Hecate -- you're a sweetheart, and we can certainly debate it back and forth. My reasons for thinking Reagan was worse have to do with [a] his unwillingness and in some cases inability to confront reality, [b] his culpability in the George Will debate book theft and possibly the Iranian hostage noise, [c] all of Iran-Contra, and [d] making George H.W. Bush more prominent than he might otherwise have been, which helped get us where we are now.
That said, there are lots of reasons for Nixon to be Shit In Chief.
filkertom:
Well, you what they say about
Annie Lenox -- she's insecure
in her masculinity.
I kid, I kid!
Nixon was venal. But at least he had enough backbone to face his critics. He went down to the Mall to talk to anti-war protesters.
Nixon was a lifelong member of MENSA, which always pissed me off about the man.
He wasn't a dummy. Shame he was so fucking paranoid and insecure.
But at least he had enough backbone to face his critics. He went down to the Mall to talk to anti-war protesters.
Does anyone have a contemporaneous source for this? I was under the impression that it was sort of an urban legend. But I did spend part of that era, um, otherwise engaged.
Pie--
I took it from Moonbootica's post, earlier.
Here' the link, again, courtesy of Moonbootica.
Who's #2? Reagan or Nixon?
Tough call, but we can still listen to all the same great songs while the all-time Worst.President.Ever. still holds orifice.
honest to goodness the bars werent open this morning they must have been voting for the president or something do you have a quarter? i said yes because i did honest to goodness the tears have been falling all over the countrys face it was better before before they voted for whats his name this is suppose to be the new world flint ford auto mobile alabama windshield wiper buffalo new york gary indiana don't forget the motor city baltimore and d.c. now all we need is don't forget the motor city this was suppose to be the new world all we need is money just give us what you can spare twenty or thirty pounds of potatoes or twenty of thirty beers a turkee on thanksgiving like alms for the poor all we need are the necessities and more it was better before they voted for what his name this is suppose to be the new world don't forget the motor city this was suppose to be the new world
X, bitches!!
I have never knowingly fucked a republican.
I have. But I was young and extremely horny.
bona fides! Any red diaper babies out there?
Me, I got none. I'm the only person left of Attilla in my family
TOMFS24 -- thanks kindly. It was a lot of fun.
Terry C: And if Maher BELIEVES that, he's as dumb as Bush.
I don't think anybody believes that anymore.
H. G. Bergeron I recommend you visit Bath for a day out.
Thanks, I'll pass along the idea. Be nice to see where the "gat-tothed" Wife came from. And if memory serves, part of Persuasion is set in Bath.
Stratford is overrated
Oh I can imagine. It'll probably be like my trip to Salem; I just have to keep telling myself: "I'm here to see Shakespeare stuff, I'm here to see Shakespeare stuff."
When whoever the Republicans run in 2008 wins, will you automatically hate them too?
Gary Frazier
Isn't that premature chicken-counting?
I remember when Bush I thought he had the 1992 election all sewn up too.
i think reagans crimes were worse than nixons i.e., watergate vs. iran/contra. but it's hard to top nixon. serious ass sociopath.
the only think worse, might be a stupid ass sociopath,....
Shame he was so fucking paranoid and insecure.
Wore wingtips on the beach with a buttoned-to-the-top polo shirt.
All you need to know about Nixon.
filkertom:
Well, you what they say about
Annie Lenox -- she's insecure
in her masculinity.
I kid, I kid!
steve simels | Email | 08.20.05 - 6:15 pm
A wet fish in the belly for you, you, you, you simels, you! *spap*
Hecate--
I've never questioned it, but then again, I've never researched it, either.
Hunter S. rode with Nixon in his limo once, because they were both football fans. Nixon had to know who Thompson was, even at the time (he was writing for Rolling Stone).
It doesn't redeem Nixon, or never did for me, before. But now, considering Bush, well...let's say some things really did change after 9/11.
Who's #2? Reagan or Nixon?
Saint Ronald of the Monster Deficit, hands down!
And speaking of disturbing some things should just never be photgraphed
Especially the rear view.
the only think worse, might be a stupid ass sociopath,....
charley
That's a pretty succinct statement of where I am on W.
We have all had sex with a Republican. Bush has fucked us all pretty good.
Unless there are young children in the house....or, worse, teenagers.
Rmj, Wandering Aengus
having our grown children home these past few weeks has brought back soooooooo many memories. This chief amongst them.
Nixon was
worse than Reagan. Nixon consorted with McCarthy, for Goddess sake.
Hecate | Email | 08.20.05 - 6:09 pm | #
If memory serves, Reagan ratted on
people when he was the head of SAG.
Scumbag.
SteveLG,
Who is that? It's great.
it's hard to top nixon. serious ass sociopath.
I was no fan of Tricky Dicky, but he was a piker compared to this bastard in the White House now.
I never feared that Nixon would cause WW III.
Terry C -- that's the other thing. Nixon was a despicable bastard, but there is a sense that, at least on a few things, he was trying to play within the rules. It was his breaking all the others that brought his ass down.
Can somebody please explain the logic of that to me?
Rmj, Wandering Aengus
Answer #1:
This is Chimpy. What is this logic of which you speak?
Answer #2:
Jeebus sez so.
Fucking helloscam. Write the best post ever, with links and italics and deep thoughts and helloscam eats it like candy. Make a little jokey and whoosh, it posts without a problems. Libby Dole's juices=helloscum.
When whoever the Republicans run in 2008 wins, will you automatically hate them too?
Now that the GOP openly embraces fascism, yes.
The Republican party as it currently exists is an outright enemy of the Constitution of the United States.
We destroyed fascism in 1945. We can do it again.
And you and your fellow collobrators know what is coming your way.
Regan is responsible for the AIDS epidemic reching so much of the world. AND he should have been convicted in the contra dealy.
WHile Nixon is creted with starting the EPA.
Regan hated any envirnmental laws.
Regan IMO was way worse. Even if tricky dick was put out to pasture by mandate.
Who is that? It's great.
Hecate
It's X, from their 1983 album, "More Fun in the New World."
http://www.xtheband.com/morefun.html
Great, indeedy...
We have all had sex with a Republican. Bush has fucked us all pretty good.
Not consensual = rape, not sex.
We have all had sex with a Republican. Bush has fucked us all pretty good.
Not consensual = rape, not sex.
Terry C -- that's the other thing. Nixon was a despicable bastard, but there is a sense that, at least on a few things, he was trying to play within the rules. It was his breaking all the others that brought his ass down.
filkertom |
Tricky Dick didn't need the SCOTUS to put his ass into the White House, either!
We have all had sex with a Republican. Bush has fucked us all pretty good.
trifecta
Then I hope it was good for them, because I don't even want to remember it!
Nixon did bring us the EPA.There is that.
RMJ, I give you Pickler:
Bush is making a sell to a skeptical public. According to recent polls, a majority of Americans do not approve of his handling of the war.
Gray Frazier -- word. The Repubs are the party of illegal wars, bloated budgets, moral hypocrisy, and denial of reality. And finally, finally, finally, that's beginning to break through.
When whoever the Republicans run in 2008 wins, will you automatically hate them too?
Ok, we've seen this from mulitple trolls now. Where is it comming from and why?
H. G. Bergeron my dad sez if you go to Bath you can visit the Roman Baths and afternoon tea at the The Pump Rooms
I'll even give you a personal tour of Bath
The Repubs are the party of illegal wars, bloated budgets, moral hypocrisy, and denial of reality. And finally, finally, finally, that's beginning to break through.
filkertom
I credit Cindy Sheehan.
One of the my "favorite" Reaganisms:
"I know all about poverty.
I WENT TO COLLEGE DURING THE DEPRESSION!"
Republicans are fascists and an enemy of the American Experiment. I will fight them to the death.
Wankerrr of the Day
Jodi Wilgoren who wrrrites a Five-page fellatio een today's NYT on the how-joo-say "Discovery Institute" (akkkh cough! hrrrnnn! pthoooey!)
Under the grrrotesquely misleading headline: Politicized Scholars Put Evolution on the Defensive.
Not one how-joo-say "Defensive Evolutionista" ees quoted for a rrresponse.
Jodi Wilgoren, joo a are Wankerrr.
a Wankerrrita.
a Frotacionista.
Jodi Wilgoren, joo are ¡Queen of the Wankerrrs!
so.
Regan is responsible for the AIDS epidemic reching so much of the world. AND he should have been convicted in the contra dealy.
WHile Nixon is creted with starting the EPA.
Regan hated any envirnmental laws.
Regan IMO was way worse. Even if tricky dick was put out to pasture by mandate.
Reagan was also a pawn. He was just better at it.
Hey repukes, how's your Iraq war going?
If memory serves, Reagan ratted on
people when he was the head of SAG.
That's true.
A fucking douchebag he was.
AND he should have been convicted in the contra dealy.
He should have been, but Tip O'Neil was smart enough to know that impeaching a popular President in a time of peace and relative properity was not a good idea.
Newt Gingrich? not so smart.
pie (hiya, kid!) -- I read that story this morning, and thought, "How the hell many times is he going to attempt to justify this?" This is like a used car salesman who sells you a lemon, then haunts your front door, continually telling you it was really a good car.
Wycliffe...WYCLIFFE,
you son of a cowardly jackal, what hole have you crawled into and covered in yer own lying shit?
stick your trembling tail out as last surrender and go... but defile us no more.
Ok, we've seen this from mulitple trolls now. Where is it comming from and why?
©smalfish
Probably from Rush Limpdick or Handjob Hannity.
None of these trolls can think for themselves, you know.
Nixon was evil and a liar who twice got elected promising to end the Viet Nam war. Reagon was worse; he ran up the deficit and abolished the Fairness Doctrine, and we all know the result of that. Bush The First was a pathetic liar and a dickhead. This Bush is the Worst Ever In The Whitehouse. The only Republican I didn't hate was Ike. He warned us about the Military-Industrial Complex, but we didn't listen.
A 1985 memo written by Supreme Court nominee John Roberts is causing concern among some gay leaders and advocates for people with HIV because it ignored scientific findings about the spread of HIV during the height of the AIDS crisis.
Written in September 1985, the memo urged that language be deleted from a package of briefing materials for President Reagan. Roberts specifically targeted this sentence: "As far as our best scientists have been able to determine, [the] AIDS virus is not transmitted through casual or routine contact."
(How fucking lovely)
so the world's foremost spiritual leader has to travel in a special bulletproof car?
Jodi Wilgoren, joo are ¡Queen of the Wankerrrs!
so.
Grrrrrrrrrr.
I want to rip her head off with my claws and piss down the stump.
"I know all about poverty.
I WENT TO COLLEGE DURING THE DEPRESSION!"
Yeah, I know all about poverty because I had to drive by the lines at the soup kitchens in my Rolls on my way to my summer home...
"I know all about poverty.
I WENT TO COLLEGE DURING THE DEPRESSION!"
Yeah, I know all about poverty because I had to drive by the lines at the soup kitchens in my Rolls on my way to my summer home...
H. G. Bergeron I recommend you visit Bath for a day out.
Thanks, I'll pass along the idea. Be nice to see where the "gat-tothed" Wife came from. And if memory serves, part of Persuasion is set in Bath.
Stratford is overrated
Oh I can imagine. It'll probably be like my trip to Salem; I just have to keep telling myself: "I'm here to see Shakespeare stuff, I'm here to see Shakespeare stuff."
I second Moonbootica.
Wife and I spent a day in Bath on our honeymoon and it was absolutely lovely. If it's a relatively nice day, take the boat ride down the river. It's not terribly exciting, but it was kind of nice to float down the river a drink beers and not have to worry about doing very much.
And whatever you do, if you go to Stratford only plan to stay for half the day. There really isn't that much to do there especially if you are on foot. You can go see Shakespeares house (which will take you all of five minutes to see and will cost you 20 bucks American a piece to get in) but Anne Hathaway's cottage is too far from everything to hike. Unless you're taking in a play by the royal Shakespeare company, that really is about it. The wife and I were bored out of our minds.
The proper way to do it is by a bus tour that takes you to Warwick Castle as well.
Ok, we've seen
It's the sort of "innoculation" the right has gotten good at and the Dems haven't figured out. Now, when they run Santorum/Frist and we object, they can say "Oh, see, you hate whoever the Republicans run. You're filled with hate. We predicted this long ago." it's a cute game, but not too intricate and YOU'D FUCKING THINK THE DEMOCRATS COULD FIGURE IT OUT AND START TO PLAY THE GAME THEMSELVES!
Terry C -- that's the other thing. Nixon was a despicable bastard, but there is a sense that, at least on a few things, he was trying to play within the rules.
The biggest similarity between Nixon and Chimpy is that they both think they were predestined for greatness and will go to any lengths to achieve it.
That said -- Nixon was intelligent and viewed the world thru the eyes of an informed person. Bunnypants is an incurious idiot who thinks Jeebus is telling him how to handle foreign policy.
Bunnypants wins, hands down.
When whoever the Republicans run in 2008 wins, will you automatically hate them too?
Yes, because they'll run a fundie approved corporate tool.
"Tip O'Neil was smart enough to know that impeaching a popular President in a time of peace and relative properity was not a good idea."
Prosperity for the rich.
There were never that many homeless on the street before Reagan took office.
Take from the needy and give to the greedy.
Bloated military budget and social cuts galore.
How Ronnie RayGun could be "popular" I will never know.
He was a schmuck. He was well on his way to senility before his first term was even finished.
Just an opinion, I *COULD* be wrong.
I'll try this again.
Doesn't matter if w is just a tool. The big shits couldn't get away with their crap if they didn't have a front man to give their lunacy a bit of credence. W gives them the veneer they need so that people don't see just how maniacal they are. As far as I'm concerned, w is just as guilty, if not more so than they are. I give him no passes for being stupid. I think that is a bogus argument.
i said all this much better earlier bu t, in case you hadn't heard, helloscum ate the post.
Carpbasman ~ so true. Rome is such a small place you can visit lots of interesting places on foot
I know cause I've been there a lot with my father for Rugby Matches.
This country is now the Evil Empire and we're going to put a stop to that action.
I'm the feminist wiccan daughter of a union speech writer and a Dorothy Day catholic.
I'm just this guy, ya know?
hello all, just ambling by and saw some fig posts.
my fig tree partially overhangs the pool, right now you can go bobbing for figs. or if you prefer them sans chlorine, you can stand in the shallow end and pick some right off the tree.
the birds love them ripe, and the flies love them overripe, and the ants have a hell of a time with the ones on the pool deck.
even with all that help, we have WAY more than we need, and there are plenty of greenies to ripen over the next month, too.
my wife hates the tree and prays for it to die, but being an athiest her prayers go unanswered. i love the tree and its fruit, but after eating a dozen or two ... well, i leave that to your imaginations.
"Oh, see, you hate whoever the Republicans run. You're filled with hate."
That's a laugh, coming from the Party of Hate and Death.
Our economy and main export is war.
so the world's foremost spiritual leader has to travel in a special bulletproof car?
The pimpmobile?
Who's your daddy,Bitches!
Write the best post ever, with links and italics and deep thoughts and helloscam eats it like candy.
Moral of the story?
After writing a long post -- [control] C is your friend.
Oh, see, you hate whoever the Republicans run. You're filled with hate.
For those wankers?
Yes, I am filled with hate. They've earned it.
If they ever start running normal people for office again I'll reconsider.
The only Republican I didn't hate was Ike. He warned us about the Military-Industrial Complex, but we didn't listen.
Ike was hell on the unions and sure didn't do much for civil rights. And Mamie, what a waste.
Carpbasman oopps wine has got to me that should be BATH.
oops, 
- the fig tree post was mine, forgot to fix my nym.
Hi, filk!
This is like a used car salesman who sells you a lemon, then haunts your front door, continually telling you it was really a good car.
A used car salesman has more scruples than georgie.
Sad, really.
Pat Robertson wants God to smite Justice Ginsburg for fuck's sake. We are the hate party though.
Bath is a small place with many interesting sites which you can visit by foot.
Man, I've had a couple good weeks. Finally got a hummingbird to show up regular at a feeder...a first for my little piece of concrete suburbia.
Then last night had a feline visiter...some dumb schmuck let their cat run loose, declawed front and back...I see her in the back yard, call out kitty and she comes running for love...waaaay too trusting to be out like that. Anyway, made my day.
Now, I gotta shit or get off the pot wrt Eschacon.
" Republicans are fascists and an enemy of the American Experiment. I will fight them to the death."
--Ô¿Ô
You got that one right. I'm with you all the way.
Let them come and take us away. Ha, they will lose a little income tax revenue if they do.
The only Republican I didn't hate was Ike. He warned us about the Military-Industrial Complex, but we didn't listen.
bootdw
Word!
I'm filled with hate for Bushco, too.
But that doesn't make me a bad person...
Ok, we've seen this from mulitple trolls now. Where is it comming from and why?
©smalfish
Why? Because they've all sprained their wrists from clapping so hard.
So this is their new approach to controlling reality.
"Let them come and take us away. Ha, they will lose a little income tax revenue if they do.
mer"
They will die trying! |
But that doesn't make me a bad person...
No, it makes you a sane person.
He was well on his way to senility before his first term was
even finished.
Terry C | Email | 08.20.05 - 6:29 pm | #
And the reporters that covered him
knew it.
I'm filled with hate for Bushco, too.
But that doesn't make me a bad person...
Lisa
Hating Bushco makes you a GOOD person.
Because you hate evil.
H. G. Bergeron my dad sez if you go to Bath you can visit the Roman Baths and afternoon tea at the The Pump Rooms
(snaps fingers!) Yeah! Thank you! That's something else I must remember to do--see what Roman ruins are left. I may never get to Italy, but I do want to see some Roman baths and such.
And tea in Bath would be lovely. Mrs. Lovely and Amazing loves tea, especiall Earl Grey, and I expect she'll be doing lots of research in that area.
And the reporters that covered him
knew it.
steve simels
Yep, they sure did.
But even HE didn't get the pass from the media that this bastard is getting.
Fucking helloscam. Write the best post ever, with links and italics and deep thoughts and helloscam eats it like candy. Make a little jokey and whoosh, it posts without a problems. Libby Dole's juices=helloscum.
See: Thersites' Rules of Debate.
Fucking helloscam. Write the best post ever, with links and italics and deep thoughts and helloscam eats it like candy. Make a little jokey and whoosh, it posts without a problems. Libby Dole's juices=helloscum.
See: Thersites' Rules of Debate.
I just can't believe that this whole "intelligent design" bullshit is starting to get traction.
It's perfectly insane.
I don't wanna live in the new dark ages. If I'd have wanted to do that, I'd have invented a time machine and gone there for real.
"If they ever start running normal people for office again I'll reconsider.
four legs good"
Not me, man..I wouldn't vote for one ever again in this life...and I'll tell ya why. Every one of 'em adds to their power. They can be nice as all get out...your neighbors and the like...but when they head off to dc they vote the way duhlay tells 'em to, and they are totally corrupted by the machine.
I refuse to ever give another my vote.
We were lucky to survive the Reagan administration. I think our luck is up with the murdering chimp.
a Dorothy Day catholic.
I wouldn't have gotten that reference had I not interviewed the St. Patrick's Four defendants!
When whoever the Republicans run in 2008 wins, will you automatically hate them too?
Wycliffe | 08.20.05 - 5:18 pm
Given the crop of lawbreaking hypocritical supporters of illegal war, torture, pollution, destruction of our economy, jamming superstition down our throats, and subjugating everyone who isn't a well-off white male, the chances are amazingly good.
way ot, but i heard on some news show that that the 747 carrying the shuttle gets less than a hundred meters per gallon
Decent Republicans? Lincoln. TR. Not many since.
The sky is starting to growl so I doubt I'll stay long.
There were never that many homeless on the street before Reagan took office.
...
How Ronnie RayGun could be "popular" I will never know.
I know, I know.
He was inexplicably popular though, just like Dumbass Dubya was (until recently) "popular".
The Reagan new homeless were often former mental patients turned out on the street by the "Ketchup is a vegetable" Administration.
Reagan had the sleaziest Adminstration in History (until the current one of course) it is only the contrast with he Worst President Ever that makes him seem vaguely human.
I'm filled with hate for Bushco, too.
It's not hate as much as anger, embarrassment, and disgust.
They're going to get us all killed.
If I didn't have those little hummingbirds showing up at my feeder outside my window (there is one sipping right now as I type), I would have lost it this summer.
I mean really, the fucking NYTimes covers it like there's actually a debate?
THERE IS NO DEBATE ON EVOLUTION YOU FUCKING BRAIN-DEAD WANKERS!
Sorry. This stuff just pisses me off.
H. G. Bergeron well let me know and I shall show you the delights of Bath Its only a 30 minutes in a car and by bus 40-45 minutues.
We were lucky to survive the Reagan administration. I think our luck is up with the murdering chimp.
Ô¿Ô
I'm not laying down for these bastards.
There were never that many homeless on the street before Reagan took office.
That's only partly St Ronnies fault. Passing legislation to empty out the mental institutions without including guaranteed entitlement funding for the residents housing and medical needs was a product of the very Democratic Congress.
We have all had sex with a Republican. Bush has fucked us all pretty good.
Well, that explains my dog's inflamed rectum.
Off to PetCo for some Santorumcillin ointment...
And Mamie was to Babs Bush what Eleanore Roosevelt via Jean Huston was to Hillary. Mamie got the WH chefs to use cake mixes instead of making cakes from scratch.
It's not hate as much as anger, embarrassment, and disgust.
For me it's hate.
I hate them.
I don't think I could ever vote for a republican ever again, either.
* from Devizes its a 30 min car ride and a 40-45 min bus ride.
I wouldn't have gotten that reference had I not interviewed the St. Patrick's Four defendants
I listened to the filkertom podcast, which I loved , and will listen to the other ones later.
He was inexplicably popular though, just like Dumbass Dubya was (until recently) "popular".
Lousy actor, lousy president.
Mamie got the WH chefs to use cake mixes instead of making cakes from scratch.
Really?
That's insane.
I wonder what goodies the Bushes will be requesting from their new chef.
"If I didn't have those little hummingbirds showing up at my feeder outside my window (there is one sipping right now as I type), I would have lost it this summer.
mer"
How cool! We've seen them pass thru for years. We get all excited and whip out the feeders, make the necter...then we never see 'em again. This is the first we've ever had one more then a day and actually come to a feeder. I'm a happy camper
I don't think I could ever vote for a republican ever again, either.
Not in this lifetime.
4LG -- superstition, my friend. Fear.
They fear that, without their Big Superhero in the Sky, they're just beasts. They fear what's different from them. They fear that they have no purpose.
People without fear don't need God to have created the universe.
I don't think I could ever vote for a republican ever again, either.
Ô¿Ô
I only voted for Republican twice.
When I lived in PA, there was no way I could vote for Robert P. Casey as governor.
I voted for Republicans, Bill Scranton and Barbara Hafer (now a Democrat).
Not me, man..I wouldn't vote for one ever again in this life...and I'll tell ya why.
Given the current state of the GOP, even if they admited the error of their ways today (yeah right) and purged themselves of fundies, fascists and corporatists (would there be anything left?) it would be a decade or 3 before I'd even think about voting for ANYONE at any level with an R by their name.
4LG,
There's a fun pagan band called Emerald Rose that just recorded a song called, "We Come from Monkeys." It's not out yet, but as soon as it is, it's definitely worth .99 cents from iTunes.
Wankerrr of the Day
Jodi Wilgoren who wrrrites a Five-page fellatio een today's NYT on the how-joo-say "Discovery Institute" (akkkh cough! hrrrnnn! pthoooey!)
Under the grrrotesquely misleading headline: Politicized Scholars Put Evolution on the Defensive.
It's all about the horse race.
I'll retire to Bedlam.....
The sky is starting to growl so I doubt I'll stay long.
Ahianne
I wish it would rain here. We have this big fat 'high' sitting right over us. We're a foot below normal for rainfall right now.
They fear that, without their Big Superhero in the Sky, they're just beasts.
They're beasts WITH their Invisible Cloud Being.
Stupid jackasses.
I just can't believe that this whole "intelligent design" bullshit is starting to get traction.
I can believe it, as much as I dislike it.
The right has not spent billions in buying the press for no reasin. THey have to get their agenda moved somehow, and the press, being paid shills for whatever the GOP wants is a willing participant in the selling of bad policy to the proles.
With the catholic church on board it is going to be very difficult to turn the tide, if it's even possible now. It may in fact already be too late. But thats not a given. We are going to have to be vocal ad loudly in order for the train to be stopped before it gets on the other side of the hill. FOr when it gets to the top. We are all doomed.
nbc just had a clip of a bunch of rolling thunder types riding thru crawford. there's nothing more annoying than a tricked out motorcycle -- that sound had to trickle over to the ranch. hahaha.
considering how chimpy likes his 'little piece of heaven', i hope to hell he's pissed.
People without fear don't need God to have created the universe.
filkertom
Neither do I.
But then, I didn't need math in high school, either.
High school, unfortunately, thought otherwise.
The space shuttle was just down the street from here at Barksdale Air Force Base piggy-backing.
Decent Republicans? Lincoln. TR. Not many since.
I'm not all that enamoured with Lincoln. He was more than willing to accept slavery to preserve the Union and suspended habeas corpus during the war. TR? He was a progressive, conservationist and winner of the Nobel Peace Prize, so I can dig him.
Mamie got the WH chefs to use cake mixes instead of making cakes from scratch.
Really?
That's insane.
No, it isn't. It's easier.
I guess THIS chef knows how to make white trash comfort food.
Okay, folks, off for another fun
Saturday night of quaffing elitist
chardonnay with my satanic commie
pals.
Catch you later.....
4LG, RMJ -- the only reason there is any "debate" at all is because these idiots keep trying to shove ID down everyone's throats, and our wonderful Corporate Media keeps being "fair and balanced", i.e., presenting "both sides of the debate" without regard to truth, facts, logic, or the laugh test.
You've seen this, of course...?
I listened to the filkertom podcast, which I loved
I told Tom that his interview would be get more hits than any cast...
Disembowel some Girl Scouts for me, steve!
TR? He was a progressive, conservationist and winner of the Nobel Peace Prize, so I can dig him.
NTodd
Feminist, too.
A man ahead of his time.
I don't think I could ever vote for a republican ever again, either.
I never have, and I doubt I ever will.
Quaff one for me, Steve.
Feminist, too.
A man ahead of his time.
Well, that's where I get off the TR bus. If we didn't have women's suffrage, we wouldn't have had all these problems over the years...
Thanks again for that, NTodd. 
The space shuttle was just down the street from here at Barksdale Air Force Base piggy-backing.
I hope Discovery had the common decency to give the 747 a reacharound.
(sorry, I watched Full Metal Jacket again yesterday...)
H. G. Bergeron well let me know ...
I shall be in touch. Thank you for all your help and advice, and thanks to Carpbasman too--I think between you two, you might just have saved us a wasted day in Stratford.
BTW: Mrs. L&A just called, and she's already planning the side trips. My doctor just significantly improved the quality of my life last week, but I'll never be able to move as fast or plan as well as she can.
TR? He was a progressive, conservationist and winner of the Nobel Peace Prize, so I can dig him.
NTodd
And yet, IIRC, refused to receive Mother Jones when she came calling about child labor practices.
Not unlike Bush and Sheehan.
Oh, well, can't have everything.
The space shuttle was just down the street from here at Barksdale Air Force Base piggy-backing.
Ô¿Ô | 08.20.05 - 6:42 pm
thought it was at altus, just outside Burns Flat, OK...some desparate people there, 120 miles from anywhere meaningful, with amenities exceeding the pleasures of Arbees or the DQ...
Caterer in bid to stop picketing
Airline caterer Gate Gourmet is seeking a High Court injunction to stop Transport and General Workers Union members picketing the firm's premises.
Union spokesman Brendan Gold said the move was an attempt to "deprive people of their right to picket".
Gate Gourmet workers at Heathrow have allegedly faced intimidation since nearly 670 staff were sacked last week.
The sackings led to an unofficial walkout by some British Airways staff, paralysing flights for more than a day.
With the catholic church on board it is going to be very difficult to turn the tide, if it's even possible now. It may in fact already be too late. But thats not a given. We are going to have to be vocal ad loudly in order for the train to be stopped before it gets on the other side of the hill. FOr when it gets to the top. We are all doomed.
©smalfish
I think it's already too late. People are just too lame and stupid now.
Mamie got the WH chefs to use cake mixes instead of making cakes from scratch.
Really?
That's insane.
No, it isn't. It's easier.
I guess THIS chef knows how to make white trash comfort food.
Terry C | Email | 08.20.05 - 6:42 pm
I can't confirm this, but I wonder if it wasn't also a calculated move. Cake mixes were just getting into the swing of production. It may have been done to boost their image and sales. "If it's good enough for the White House...."
H. G. Bergeron no problem I hope you have a fun time in Britain
filk - thank me if/when the cast generates some sales. In the meantime, I am in your debt for taking the time to edumacate us 'mundanes'.
ID, btw, is bad science and bad theology.
It is not worthy of discussion by educated people, nor a fit topic for civilized conversation. Except as a joke.
thought it was at altus, just outside Burns Flat, OK...some desparate people there, 120 miles from anywhere meaningful, with amenities exceeding the pleasures of Arbees or the DQ...
WoodyGuthriesGuitar
I think you're right. It's just that usually, when they piggy-back it, they stop here.
Steve, did the Wine Song ever arrive?
Theres so much science thats based on evolution. I just find it hard to believe that "we" are willing to throw all that away.
RMJ -- word. The big question I have is, if the universe is so complex that it had to be designed by something or somebody more complex... who or what was complex enough to design that designer? How far back do we do?
TR? He was a progressive, conservationist and winner of the Nobel Peace Prize, so I can dig him.
And he has one of THE neatest memorials in all of DC. If you're ever here, go to the tiny island named for him. It's lovely.
See: Thersites' Rules of Debate.
Carpbasman
I think he missed one:
6. Panelists must state their name everytime they speak. If they forget I will snarkily demand "you do know your name don't you?"
What is up with the catholic church? Because they hate gays and abortion, they are willing to overlook pre-emptive war, capital punishment, torture like a trade off.
I can respectfully disagree with their positions, if they were at least consistent, and didn't let the evil do-ers in the White House get away with their crap with not so much as a minor whimper.
ID, btw, is bad science and bad theology.
It is not worthy of discussion by educated people, nor a fit topic for civilized conversation. Except as a joke.
Then it shouldn't even be in a philo/theo class and in a survey course on American comedy?
There's really nothing to deflect the religious reich now. People don't even understand how important the separation between church and state is.
Hecate--I remember one of the NPR guys (Robert Simon?) talking about Nixon going to the Lincoln Memorial to face anti-war protestors.
Apparently the stuff he said was pretty bizarre; as an icebreaker he asked about surfing. Then he told them for their future careers they should look to Asia not Europe, since in Europe they'd only find an older version of America.
Not so forthcoming about the war.
NTodd -- I definitely did get at least a few sales from it. I love having secure downloads -- you send me PayPal, I send you music, quick and easy.
I just can't believe that this whole "intelligent design" bullshit is starting to get traction.
Yet another gift for which we can thank the DLC. If they hadn't let the local parties wither on the vine, we might still have some Dems on local school boards who could stop this crap in its tracks.
My sweetie's home, so off I go. Thanks again to Moonbootica and Carpbasman.
And oh yeah, fuck Bush.
What is up with the catholic church? Because they hate gays and abortion, they are willing to overlook pre-emptive war, capital punishment, torture like a trade off.
Benny Da Rat makes me MISS JP II.
The PopenFuhrer has all the charm of a cobra with a toothache.
You can see the EVIL there!
And he has one of THE neatest memorials in all of DC. If you're ever here, go to the tiny island named for him. It's lovely.
That's the one off the GW Parkway, right? I pass by it all the time when I go from DCA to Silver Spring, MD. I keep meaning to stop, but I'm usually in too much of a hurry--I also desperately want to go to the National Cryptology Museum at Ft. Meade, but skip it for the same reason.
I really think the craziness of organized religion now is mainly due to the gay rights movement. We falsify christianity and they sense it and it threatens their little power fiefdoms.
RMJ -- word. The big question I have is, if the universe is so complex that it had to be designed by something or somebody more complex... who or what was complex enough to design that designer? How far back do we do?
filkertom
The whole thing arises from a philosophy of religion issue regarding a proof of the existence of God. One such proof is the "watchmaker": I.e., a watch is such a complex artifact, it implies the existence of an artificer.
First problem: the universe is not a watch. Occam's Razor: a simpler explanation is preferable. The real assaults on the proof are much more complex than that, but it's been rejected as a proof of the existence of the God of Abraham for many years now, and no one takes it seriously.
Except poorly educated people who don't understand the issues. They are like children playing with a loaded gun. While the gun is metaphorical, the damage is still quite real.
ID, btw, is bad science and bad theology.
I'm an atheist btw, but why would a bird evolve half a wing?
If we didn't have women's suffrage, we wouldn't have had all these problems over the years...
NTodd
Oh, ha ha!
Very funny.
Theres so much science thats based on evolution. I just find it hard to believe that "we" are willing to throw all that away.
Who's the *we*?
Start asking parents across the country how dumb they want their kids to be and see what they say.
Ma and Pa Bible Thumper might not understand that but the church hierchy both here and in Rome know that really well. They share information, especially from roman catholic church to here. They have 'think tanks' that study trends. It's a racket.
I definitely did get at least a few sales from it.
Excellent! Maybe I can use podcasting as a marketing channel for my photography, afterall...
How true that false Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel indeed-
sNIP-
"--- The mayor's message drew a howl of outrage from Mike Parkin, senior vice commander of Veterans of Foreign Wars Atomic Post 4355 in Salt Lake City.
''Excuse my French, but - that son of a bitch!'' he said. "It makes the mayor look very, very unpatriotic. It makes him look despicable." ---"
-eNDsNIP
http://tinyurl.com/b4ad4
http://www.samueljohnson.com/pic...om/
picture.html
"If I didn't have those little hummingbirds showing up at my feeder outside my window (there is one sipping right now as I type), I would have lost it this summer.
mer"
There's a morning glory vine taking over the bamboo on my neighbors property line -- the hummingbirds love the flowers. I'm sitting in my living room watching them.
Ntodd,
That's it. You wont' believe you're in the middle of a city. Have you seen the spy museum, yet:? You need tickets; let me know if you're coming to town. The new American Indian museum is also just amazing, and another one you need tickets for.
And he has one of THE neatest memorials in all of DC. If you're ever here, go to the tiny island named for him. It's lovely.
Well worth a visit in Spring or Fall, but not during DC's "Hotter than Hell" Summer.
hierarchy
I really think the craziness of organized religion now is mainly due to the gay rights movement.
Sorry, sweetie. It'a an assault on everyone. And it's not all organized religion, btw.
There are some who seem to have a handle on life.
I told Tom that his interview would be get more hits than any cast...
NTodd
So perhaps a new business plan?
Interview Atriots only?
RMJ -- exactly. The "watch implies a watchmaker" theory has never worked except for the ignorant... but then, the ignorant is the base both the Republicans and the evangelicals are cultivating.
The more you know, the less you believe without evidence.
Anyway, both church hierarchies whip up their sheep.
I'm an atheist btw, but why would a bird evolve half a wing?
What kind of bird are you talking about?
If we didn't have women's suffrage, we wouldn't have had all these problems over the years...
NTodd
I'll be sending that quote on to Janeane.
NTodd -- you might want to check out Zazzle or Deviant Art. They do photo prints (you don't get a huge cut, but you get something), and you keep the rights to your pictures.
Clarke backs embattled Met chief
Home Secretary Charles Clarke has backed embattled police commissioner Sir Ian Blair over his handling of the shooting of Jean Charles de Menezes.
Mr Menezes' family wanted him to resign for wrongly linking the shooting so soon to the bomb attempts.
But Sir Ian says he was not told the victim was innocent until the next day, the News of the World reports.
The family's lawyer expressed "incredulity" that Sir Ian would make statements without knowing the facts.
Hecate - thanks!
Whoops! Got a couple things I have to do before some stores close. Later, all!
And he has one of THE neatest memorials in all of DC. If you're ever here, go to the tiny island named for him. It's lovely.
Hecate
Memories.
I could walk there from my little place in Arlington.
I'll retire to Bedlam.....
Rmj, Wandering Aengus - 6:40 pm
Bedlam has no limiting covenants, i hope; for it is there that i should so likely meet you.
Evangelical Scientists Refute Gravity with New "Intelligent Falling" Theory.
Well worth a visit in Spring or Fall, but not during DC's "Hotter than Hell" Summer.
Unless you go in the early am when the Potomac is still all pink and the mists are still rising....
I'm off.
yes I think I shall retire to bed as well.
ciao moonbatriots!
NTodd -- you might want to check out Zazzle or Deviant Art.
Yeah, I use Zazzle for greeting cards (which reminds me that I need to create more products), since I'm not setup right now for that stuff. Print fulfillment I do myself, although I want to get a larger format printer (increased property taxes have delayed those plans, tho).
pie, hundreds of millions of gays have been persecuted for centuries. They don't want that understood.
did the primitive proto-bird know that its wing nubs, a million generations hence, would enable its ancestors to soar?
I have to run down to the mailbox place and see if GWPDA's chiles have shown up.
Later.
Interview Atriots only?
Wow, I would pay to listen to lots of Atrios. GWPDA, watertiger, RJM, moonbotica, SteveLG, Sallyh, res ipsa, 4LG, Prior Aelred, so many more.
You could do a whole series....
1.) Gays are human beings.
2.) Religious text has allowed other human beings to mistreat hundreds of millions of them for centuries.
3.) That religious text was christian.
So perhaps a new business plan?
Interview Atriots only?
Good idea! I wonder what I could charge for a subscription...
I'll be sending that quote on to Janeane.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
I really think the craziness of organized religion now is mainly due to the gay rights movement. We falsify christianity and they sense it and it threatens their little power fiefdoms.
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And here all this time I thought it was because we were enjoying sex. God hates that.
The Catholic Church has institutionalized "don't ask, don't tell" homosexuality, so it's not quite the fear issue for Catholics. Besides, the pedophile priest scandal has forced the church to fess up.
hundreds of millions of gays have been persecuted for centuries.
Hundreds of millions of women have been persecuted for centuries.
Come back when you have a better argument.
ID, btw, is bad science and bad theology.
I'd say, rather, that it is neither science nor theology.
"And there is much, much, more.
Carpbasman | Email | 08.20.05 - 5:51 pm | # "
O M G
heh
I'm an atheist btw, but why would a bird evolve half a wing?
What kind of bird are you talking about?
ell at least one from my 8 piece special at KFC and BTW has anyone ever seen a bowl legged chicken?
TR was a bit of an imperialist...
3.) That religious text was christian.
Actually, it was Christian interpretation of the text...
I'm out. Grilling pork chops and fennel.
Buh bye.
Bush won. When whoever the Republicans run in 2008 wins, will you automatically hate them too?
Wycliffe
As you can see from the responses above, hatred for the Catholic Church is now the cause of the day on Duncan's board. But don't worry, they'll give the Republican victor in 2008 a honeymoon, a honeymoon of about 30 seconds long.
I don't think we have to worry about the Catholic vote in 2008. Or the Hispanic vote, for that matter.
TR was a bit of an imperialist...
nick carraway
Bush is very much one.
Hundreds of millions of women have been persecuted for centuries.
That's been rather mild compared to how gays have been treated. I don't recall many woman being murdered systematically for being female.
Aw, shit.
Monica Sjoo is dead. She died on Monday the 8th of August, of cancer, surrounded by her loving friends.
Monica was an artist, a writer, one of the early, powerful visionaries of the women’s spirituality movement. Her book, The Great Cosmic Mother, brought the hidden history of the Goddess back alive, and her paintings transformed ancient images and symbols into contemporary icons of female power.
I first met Monica in 1985, on a walk with women activists from the Greenham Common Peace Camp, that began in Avebury on Beltaine and crossed the military firing ranges of Salisbury Plain to celebrate a wild, powerful, illicit ritual at Stonehenge during a lunar eclipse. Monica was strong, blunt, sometimes painfully honest, gruff, brilliant and courageous. She faced huge losses in her own life with courage and creativity, and wrote with truthful self-revelation of her own griefs and disappointments. She continued to paint, write and create.
The last time I saw Monica, she came for a night to the Earth Activist Training I was coteaching in England. She presided over the ritual we were having that night in her wheelchair, sitting by the fire like an embodiment of the Crone herself. We told stories, of the walk and the Stonehenge ritual, of Greenham and the antinuclear actions of the eighties, of the early years of the feminist spirituality movement. The younger women activists—and the men—listened with rapt attention to a history most of them had never heard. Monica seemed strong, at peace, complete. That is how I will remember her, her silver hair shining in the firelight, her eyes alight. One of the mothers of the women’s spirituality movement is gone. May the Goddess embrace her, take her into her loving arms, and bring her strong, creative spirit around the circle to rebirth.
From www.witchvox.com
Speaking just for myself, the roman catholic church wants me dead. So yeah, I hate them.
"and BTW has anyone ever seen a bowl legged chicken?
focus | 08.20.05 - 7:08 pm | # "
and what do all those mega-chicken factory-farms do with all the feathers?
1.) Gays are human beings.
2.) Religious text has allowed other human beings to mistreat hundreds of millions of them for centuries.
3.) That religious text was christian.
There is no one religious text that has led to homophobic bigotry. And many preliterate societies, without any texts, have been homophobic as well (and many have not).
So, this view is rather oversimplified.
Monica was an artist, a writer, one of the early, powerful visionaries of the women’s spirituality movement. Her book, The Great Cosmic Mother, brought the hidden history of the Goddess back alive, and her paintings transformed ancient images and symbols into contemporary icons of female power.
Have you noticed that all those who've been dying lately have been the good people. No repukes have been dying. It's a sign.
And many preliterate societies, without any texts, have been homophobic as well (and many have not).
Name one.
Speaking just for myself, the roman catholic church wants me dead.
The Catholic Church is all kinds of fucked up, and they don't want you to be gay, but they don't want you dead. That's against their doctrine.
OT, but interesting diary from Kos on the coming credit-card meltdown.
Just the thing for a happy Saturday night!
I don't recall many woman being murdered systematically for being female.
Incog,
I love you, and xianity has been brutal to gays. But please see the Inquisition, when being rich while being feminie was punishible by burning.
xianity has, as noted, been brutal to gays. Gays enjoy sex w/o the "burden" of pregnancy and suffering and xianity has a huge problem with sex.
If you need someone to acknowledge what xianity has done to gays, as a former catholic, allow me to do that for you. It's terrible. And it's terrible that, even today, you have to live and love and struggle under the cloud of persecution that some so-called xians impose. There's no excuse for it.
But you're my friend and I don't believe any of the nonsense I was raised to believe. Which just goes to show you, that progress is possible.
Are you all the way moved onto the compound now?
You're really an annoying asshole, rorschach. You know that?
Ô¿Ô, please don't start that.
Hundreds of millions of women have been persecuted for centuries.
That's been rather mild compared to how gays have been treated. I don't recall many woman being murdered systematically for being female.
The Chinese used to (and perhaps still do) kill female babies because males were preferred.
In Hebrew culture, women could be stoned for adultery.
In America (not to mention Catholic-dominated Europe), women who were outspoken were often hanged or drowned for being "witches".
and what do all those mega-chicken factory-farms do with all the feathers?
gary in fl
lots a stuff...
They're still trying to do away with uppity women.
Hundreds of millions of women have been persecuted for centuries.
Women being persecuted is a good thing? NOT. That doens't make hating anyone justifiable. It's like saying no one is wearing blue today, so green wearers are to be persecuted.
Faulty logic that is. The right wing thinks in circles.
And many preliterate societies, without any texts, have been homophobic as well (and many have not).
Name one.
Sylvester! George!
You're really an annoying asshole, rorschach. You know that?
You seem to still be cranky after your 12 hour nap. Now, do you have a fucking picture of String, or are you going to continue to evade me on that? Don't wait for the translation! ANSWER THE QUESTION!
and what do all those mega-chicken factory-farms do with all the feathers?
gary in fl
When you a feather, it's kinky.
When you use the entire chicken, it's perverted!
Namibia is not a Christian nation, yet:
On Monday, March 19, two days before his nation celebrated the 11th anniversary of its independence, President Sam Nujoma of Namibia used the occasion of a major speech at the University of Namibia to attack lesbians and gay men.
"The Republic of Namibia does not allow homosexuality, lesbianism here. Police are ordered to arrest you, and deport you, and imprison you, too," he told a hushed audience. He then once again blamed "foreign influences" for homosexuality in Namibia, which he said threatened to destroy the nation.
Are you all the way moved onto the compound now?
Hecate
I was going to move somemore today but overslept like a big dog all day from last night. I was really wiped out. I've been moving a little at a time in this heat. I'll be out at the end of this month
In Hebrew culture, women could be stoned for adultery.
They used to stone rape victims, for Chripes' sake!
And let's not get into what the Muslim fundies do to them.
You're really an annoying asshole, rorschach. You know that?
Ô¿Ô
That's rude and uncalled for.
Ô¿Ô, I second mer. Sometimes you seem to go over the edge. It's a shame, because in general you have a lot to contribute.
Actually, I told a white lie. I think you are a troll. I've never heard _any_ of my gay-lesbian friends [in 10 countries] utter the outrageous things that have come from your keyboard.
Oh, and not to make everything about me (Leo, only child) and give anybody in the wingersphere traffic (but don't all bloggers deserve hits?), but I'm really getting annoyed with Rob Douth and his accusation that I'm a Democrat.
"The Republic of Namibia does not allow homosexuality, lesbianism here. Police are ordered to arrest you, and deport you, and imprison you, too," he told a hushed audience. He then once again blamed "foreign influences" for homosexuality in Namibia, which he said threatened to destroy the nation.
Fred Phelps, Pat Robertson and Rick Santorum should go over there and they can all have a circle jerk.
From Billmon today, a quote from an embedded link re Afghanistan:
According to eyewitnesses, the 29-year old, named only as Amina, was dragged out of her parent's house in Urgu District, Badakhan province by her husband and local officials before being publicly stoned to death. The man accused of committing adultery with her is alleged to have been whipped a hundred times and freed.
I do think there is a change taking place. Me, I'm 55 years old. I was there protesting the war in Vietnam. Really too young to know what the war (world) was about. But I know in my heart I am on the side of what is better for this flawed world we call the earth.
Ô¿Ô,not all straight people are your enemies.
I do think there is a change taking place. Me, I'm 55 years old. I was there protesting the war in Vietnam. Really too young to know what the war (world) was about. But I know in my heart I am on the side of what is better for this flawed world we call the earth.
mer
I'm 52 - and I couldn't have said it better.
300 count, fresh off the clothes-line.
Ô¿Ô needs to get laid. PLEASE get laid. You really should!
rom Billmon today, a quote from an embedded link re Afghanistan:
According to eyewitnesses, the 29-year old, named only as Amina, was dragged out of her parent's house in Urgu District, Badakhan province by her husband and local officials before being publicly stoned to death. The man accused of committing adultery with her is alleged to have been whipped a hundred times and freed.
Democracy is on the march! Thanks, George Bush. This one's on your soul.
What have I written that's false?
christianity is the orginal source of our persecution. It's what I've had to endure my entire life and I despise it.
Some other homosexuals have accepted it without thinking about it at all. Well, I have thought about it and I'm very resentful and outraged at christianity.
When you a feather, it's kinky.
When you use the entire chicken, it's perverted!
ah, chatouillementeur de poulet...
tres pervers, wee
HST had it right.
The towers are gone now, reduced to bloody rubble, along with all hopes for Peace in Our Time, in the United States or any other country. Make no mistake about it: We are At War now— with somebody— and we will stay At War with that mysterious Enemy for the rest of our lives.
* "Fear & Loathing in America" (September 12, 2001)
* It will be guerilla warfare on a global scale, with no front lines and no identifiable enemy. . . We are going to punish somebody for this attack, but just who or what will be blown to smithereens for it is hard to say. Maybe Afghanistan, maybe Pakistan or Iraq, or possibly all three at once. Who knows?
* "Fear & Loathing in America" (September 12, 2001)
* This is going to be a very expensive war, and Victory is not guaranteed— for anyone, and certainly not for anyone as baffled as George W. Bush. All he knows is that his father started the war a long time ago, and that he, the goofy child-President, has been chosen by Fate and the global Oil industry to finish it Now.
* "When War Drums Roll" (September 17, 2001)
Narasingha P. Sil: This piece was posted in the RISA listserv dated May 10, 1998 in response to a number of congratulatory posts in he RISA listserv from Kripal's friends who also pointed out that the author of Kali's Child was a victim of Hindu homophobia.
Hinduism. Older than Christianity.
Ô¿Ô needs to get laid. PLEASE get laid. You really should!
Pitchforks and Torches
He's gay and I can guarantee you he's never thought about it. He's always just accepted it as the way it's always been.
Ô¿Ô, you're 100% correct in your assessment of christianity. BUT other religions and cultures have done the same. Christianity is just convenient to blame right now.
Now go get laid. You need good man to make you momentarily happy.
Hunter S Thompson, RIP.
Narasingha P. Sil: This piece was posted in the RISA listserv dated May 10, 1998 in response to a number of congratulatory posts in he RISA listserv from Kripal's friends who also pointed out that the author of Kali's Child was a victim of Hindu homophobia.
Hinduism. Older than Christianity.
rorschach
All monotheism is like that not just christianity. It's a male heterosexist order.
That picture of Bush and Armstrong is priceless. Bush out in front of the greatest rider in the world. Fuck him.
Now go get laid. You need good man to make you momentarily happy.
Pitchforks and Torches
Shut up.
It's not surprising hetero males would come up with social orders to benefit only themselves and codify it with religious text.
LAST, BITCHES!
Incog, all of the Eschatonians have thought about the gay issue, even the gay ones like me. There are so many divisions in our society it's hard for people to take any one side.
I've even known lesbians who have said that gay men have it harder than them. We can only wallow in self-pity for so long...
Now onto the new thread for me, take care.
Um, Hinduism is not monotheistic.
It's amazing to me that I'm pointing out the fucking obvious and you don't 'get it.' What fucking society in pre-christian Europe, in this instance, the instance that I FUCKING CAME FROM AND HAVE EXPERIENCED MY ENTIRE LIFE FROM ITS LEGACY, was homophobic??
Um, Hinduism is not monotheistic.
rorschach
Same difference. It certainly was hetero male centric like all of them.
Keep on movin' them goalposts there, Incog.
Pitiful, really.
And stop yelling. It's impolite.
I think it's time for another 12 hour nap, Incog...
I've even known lesbians who have said that gay men have it harder than them. We can only wallow in self-pity for so long...
And she is correct which is another example that hetero males have created the rules. What, hetero males haven't made the rules we all have to live by until now?
Mediocre minds...
I heartily disliked Nixon.
I detested Reagan.
I despised Bush I.
I hate THIS asshole with ever fiber of my being.
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Could not agree more!!!!!
Um, Hinduism is not monotheistic.
Well, it is if you only pay attention to one god, and one arm at a time...
Mediokra mind, too...
Mediocre minds...
Yeah, not like the clever twat who is against continuation of the human species through procreation.
Ô¿Ô, yes, you are right. White males (probably not the ones here) have created the rules, both for homos and women. But we have got to be thankful for what we have achieved. I know that the tide is turning against both women and gays, but it can, and will be stopped. Be positive. And don't diss the folks here. They are on our side.
I love you guy, and I don't even know you.
Well, it is if you only pay attention to one god, and one arm at a time...
NTodd
Please do not offer my god a peanut.
/Apu
Yeah, I can see how they're afraid of homosexuals destroying society. Their society as they always known it. We will upset their long hold on things and their behaivor, as a group, fits seamlessly into my bacteria thesis.
Wow, Cindy Sheehan gives a great big "fuck you" to her critics!
Fucking awesome.
Just fucking awesome.
Terry C,
I bet I hate him worse than you do!
Has there ever been a politician, not to mention a president, who held the american people in such contempt?
Wow, Cindy Sheehan gives a great big "fuck you" to her critics!
Fucking awesome.
Just fucking awesome.
Vinnie
I'll bet she has more fans than she does critics.
You're really an annoying asshole, rorschach. You know that?
Ô¿Ô
I'm still waiting for an apology.
wee
scarecrow
Don't you mean "oui"?
Has there ever been a politician, not to mention a president, who held the american people in such contempt?
Vinnie
None that I can think of.
I'll bet she has more fans than she does critics.
One of the things I like most about her is that she doesn't care whether more people like what she says.
She speaks her mind, and she is relentless. She has neutered George W. Bush with nothing more than three simple words:
"What Noble Cause?"
It is a question he cannot answer. It is a question that reflects his own lies back upon him like a funhouse mirror. This is why he runs from her.
Gravatars will now go out of fashion. I have (waves fingers in mysterious yet sinister fashion) powers that way.
weird...
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