She said "lizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
Terry C |
08.20.05 - 8:19 pm | #
And, I might add, the most obsessive comment deleter on the internet is one J. Bradford DeLong. Anything even slightly dissenting is religiously disappeared by that guy.
4) Trackbacks leading to offensive, ad hominem-laced, and/or libelous posts where I’m the subject will be deleted. Habitual offenders will be permanently banned.
5) If a trackback leads to a non-offensive post, but you allow commenters to libel me, the trackback will be deleted and habitual offenders permanently banned.
Note that she become sober after giving her life to Christ. I'd like to say great on the getting sober (though conservatives are driving me to drink), but it's really not about her getting sober and finding meaning in her life. It's about her finding an excuse to be a thin-skinned self-absorbed twit. And simply by being a conservative black female, this will get her some notice, because that's all she wants. WWJD? Probably not ban people that annoy him.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
08.20.05 - 8:28 pm | #
Oh, my beloved LaShawn, still acting nutty after all these years. Somebody alert Rox!
NTodd |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 8:28 pm | #
I think it's funny that trolls come here where they can speak freely to complain that other sites ban them for behaving trollishly.
JeffCO |
08.20.05 - 8:28 pm | #
Oh, you wanna know what happened to a friend of mine on AmericaBlog threads? They changed her weblink to PATRENITY TESTS and trashed her. Talk about prissy and thin - skinned.
Caroline |
08.20.05 - 8:28 pm | #
And I bet she'll report to the "proper authorities." I'm still laughing about that one from the other day.
hecate |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 8:29 pm | #
She said "libel", you idiot.
Back in college my friend Andy and I invented a drink called the Flaming Labia. Hat reminds me of that.
NTodd |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 8:29 pm | #
Four nore years of war is stupidity, bar none. Two years I can understand. Four years. DUMB.
Caroline |
08.20.05 - 8:29 pm | #
They changed her weblink to PATRENITY TESTS
I'd be outraged if only I knew what these were.
pie |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 8:30 pm | #
Oh, and this one time, at blog camp...
JeffCO |
08.20.05 - 8:30 pm | #
And, I might add, the most obsessive comment deleter on the internet is one J. Bradford DeLong. Anything even slightly dissenting is religiously disappeared by that guy.
And Saddam had WMD he could launch in 45 minutes. Got any proof?
NTodd |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 8:30 pm | #
i have nothing to say on this topic. i just like to see my name in print.
dirk gently |
08.20.05 - 8:30 pm | #
, you wanna know what happened to a friend of mine on AmericaBlog threads? They changed her weblink to PATRENITY TESTS and trashed her.
LaShawn Barber is really full o' crap. I would blow a goat to have people disagre with my blog.
It's only by eventually getting other eyes on what you believe in that you dialogue and change opinions.Plus, there are the flame wars and name calling.
trifecta |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 8:31 pm | #
I'd be outraged if only I knew what these were. pie
pie, you have flunked the test and shall have no patrenity later.
JeffCO |
08.20.05 - 8:31 pm | #
I wore my "What would Durga do?" tank top today. Got some great looks at Home Depot.
hecate |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 8:31 pm | #
Yeah.
Who's LaShawn Barber?
Tiki Barber's sister?
Oh and btw, asshat was a word in my household way before I read it here.
I prefer "zipwad" though.
HoneyBearKelly |
08.20.05 - 8:32 pm | #
LaShawn Barber frequently deletes my posts. Some of them may have been a bit harsh, but not profane or about her. It isn't only intellectually dishonest, but school-marmish and boring.
I would have left that message at the linked site, but they, um, required registration.
John Gillnitz |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 8:32 pm | #
They can't stand for anyone to disagree with them ever.
I guess they're afraid if they confront reality their heads will explode. (and we all wish that they would.)
four legs good |
08.20.05 - 8:35 pm | #
you'll notice that I didn't mention anything about banning bloggers whose commenters offend or insult me. That goes with the proverbial territory. Libel, a more serious charge, is a much higher standard than merely offending.
Oh, wait... it's ok to offend her.
oldwhitelady |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 8:35 pm | #
I just made an emergency run to the liquor store.
Walk in to come face to face with a guy I grew up with and had not seen in years. We get to talking, and realize, the last time we ran into each other, was...in a liquor store.
chris/tx |
08.20.05 - 8:36 pm | #
dirk, dirk, dirk - you need more caffeine.
JeffCO |
08.20.05 - 8:36 pm | #
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
DISSENT IS TREASON
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
08.20.05 - 8:36 pm | #
Oh, and this one time, at blog camp...
Did you shove a flute up Robert's pussy?
NTodd |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 8:36 pm | #
Hat takes the lead as Eschaton's dumbest troll!
Carpbasman |
08.20.05 - 8:36 pm | #
It isn't only intellectually dishonest, but school-marmish and boring.
Which is pretty much like all of them, isn't it?
four legs good |
08.20.05 - 8:36 pm | #
Jeebus -- I'm downstairs drinking martoonis and talking to myself and you all are up here.
Is this a pants-free thread?
flory, Business Manager |
08.20.05 - 8:38 pm | #
They can't stand for anyone to disagree with them ever.
They're in a world of hurt.
Most of their blogs will die *not with a bang but a whimper*.
No fucking way. I already had a history of getting in trouble with Safety and Security. Hell if I was going to give them yet one more reason to expel me. Seriously.
It involved Krusty™ Koff Syrup, didn't it?
Shit, how did you know the secret ingredient? Damn that Homer--get him drunk and he gives away everything...
NTodd |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 8:38 pm | #
Hat, Schwa? and Cog: Doning everything in their power to make discourse in the Blogosphere dumber.
They'd bring down the collective IQ of Yahoo's comment boards.
Carpbasman |
08.20.05 - 8:38 pm | #
Hat, Schwa? and Cog: Doning everything in their power to make discourse in the Blogosphere dumber.
They'd bring down the collective IQ of Yahoo's comment boards.
Carpbasman |
08.20.05 - 8:38 pm | #
Is this a pants-free thread?
NTodd, are ya wearing pants?
pie |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 8:39 pm | #
I posted this in an earlier thread today, but seems apropos for a rerun - worth reading the article for the full extent of the thin-skinnedness:
Have you seen this latest li'l Ricky McCarthy debacle (via Buzzflash)? Seems Man-on-Dog was going to do a booksigning at a B&N in Wilmington DE and a bright young 18-year-old progressive thought she'd take the opportunity to ask her senator a question. Local Gladys Kravitz overheard her joking to her friends that it would be funny to get him to sign a copy of Dan Savage's book and promptly enlisted the aid of an offduty (and outrageously overzealous) DE state trooper to throw them all out and threaten arrest if they ever came back to the mall again, ever. It got ridiculously worse when they went back with her mom.
B&N is ducking responsibility for the entire incident, and the DE state police see nothing wrong at all. Apparently even when you're off-duty playing mall-cap, you still have a duty to prevent difficult questions from reaching the ears of brave neocons.
JeffCO |
08.20.05 - 8:40 pm | #
Then I read a post by blog consultant Paul Chaney, who feels he hasn’t anything of real value to say anymore. As a political blogger, I know I’ll have plenty to say for years to come, though I don’t know if LBC in its current form will be around.
i saw this woman on CSPAN a couple of weeks ago. her blog is as vapid as she was on the panel. of course the others were not so impressive either, like the guy from powerline, no not hindrocket the, other one. oh, and not on the panel, but crouching in the corner was horror-wits. i think they just like to feed off each other. stroke, stroke.
charley |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 8:42 pm | #
I'm downstairs drinking martoonis and talking to myself and you all are up here.
Well, I already had my shirt off -- cause it warmed up quite a bit today. I just wasn't sure about the pants part.
flory, Business Manager |
08.20.05 - 8:44 pm | #
Italian proverb.
One pussy hair pulls more than a team of oxen.
Vermont proverb.
No pants and he gets no maple syrup for his donkey.
spinoza |
08.20.05 - 8:44 pm | #
Is it important to be bare-assed or something?
Nűr al-Cubicle |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 8:44 pm | #
Such danger of cognitive dissonance should reality ever poke her head in the door.
"Well I guess I've done murder. Well I won't think about this now. I'll think about it tomorrow."
-- Scarlett O'Hara (Vivien Leigh), Gone With The Wind
Uncle Smokes |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 8:45 pm | #
The First Rule of GOP Fight Club is...Stop Looking at Me!
The Second Rule of GOP Fight Club is...no hitsies backsies.
I think we established you can wear pants if you want to, you can leave your posts behind.
Oh, you heard my last podcast, eh?
Don't wear pants if you want to
We can leave your bare behind
'Cause your friends wear pants and if they wear pants
Well they're no friends of mine...
NTodd |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 8:50 pm | #
just spent a homey few hours sitting around with my 70+ unrepentantly liberal parents ranting about everything political. good times, good times.
Amongst the many thousands of reasons I wish my parents were still alive -- I'd love to get my dad going on Commander Bunnypants.
Oh, the rants he could get into over Nixon and St. Ronnie.
Joys to behold....
flory, Business Manager |
08.20.05 - 8:51 pm | #
I once gave myself to the Lord, but I kept the receipt.
Uncle Smokes |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 8:51 pm | #
Oh, and this one time, at blog camp...
JeffCO | Email | 08.20.05 - 8:30 pm
Note that she become sober after giving her life to Christ
Does everyone who does that become an asshole?
Look at Bush.
Maybe she should have stayed fucked up!
Terry C |
08.20.05 - 8:51 pm | #
Is this a pants-free thread?
Aren't they all? Like the women who could and couldn't have steve smiels if they played their cars right, it might be easier to just list the ones that aren't
And reading the comments, LaShawn admits she loves living in her bubble world and doesn't get out in the blogosphere to see what's being said... except about her.
This is the sort of nonsense that has led Furious George to fall back rhetoric to rally his faithful on Iraq... it's all about 9/11 again. *BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA*
Desperation. The Busheviks and Little Green Raelians are melting under pressure.
Tom - Daai Tou Laam |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 8:53 pm | #
There is no gravy spoon.
Uncle Smokes
And yet.....there is.
flory, Business Manager |
08.20.05 - 8:53 pm | #
Reading through the comments at Pandagon, I found a link to Malkin's site where she's pimping her book Unhinged : Exposing Liberals Gone Wild.(Link to Amazon)
I'm guessing this is the book where she harvested comments out of context from the liberal blogosphere to make us look bad?
Central Scrutinizer |
08.20.05 - 8:53 pm | #
just spent a homey few hours sitting around with my 70+ unrepentantly liberal parents ranting about everything political. good times, good times.
What, did you live in a commune? More than 70 parents? That's fucking weird, dude.
NTodd |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 8:54 pm | #
I once gave myself to the Lord, but I kept the receipt.
Uncle Smokes
Duncan commenting about conservatives banning liberals from commenting is the height of hypocrisy, seeing how quickly he pushes the ban button.
Robert |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 8:54 pm | #
Better trolls please, they wouldn't know irony if it slapped them upside their empty heads.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
08.20.05 - 8:55 pm | #
I really miss sitting around ranting about politics with my mother.
NTodd -if the alternative is a kilt in some hideous tartan like Ogilvie, keep the pants on.
Thin skinned fools out in Blogistan, feh. I ain't going there, so I don't care.
Ahianne |
08.20.05 - 8:55 pm | #
Robert,
Yes, I remember the time he banned you and "Trevor" had to come speak up for you. Good times!
hecate |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 8:55 pm | #
Anyone seen the 40-Year-Old Virgin (no, I'm not asking if Toby has been unbanned)? Reviews are good, and I'm thinking it may be one to see with an audience in a theater. When I saw American Pie (in a packed theater of college students) it was freakin' hilarious, but when I saw it later on DVD, not so much (though Willow is still comedy gold).
JeffCO |
08.20.05 - 8:55 pm | #
Is this a pants-free thread?
Aren't they all?
Not ALL of them.
Just the one's NTodd is on.....
flory, Business Manager |
08.20.05 - 8:55 pm | #
CS - Malkin is Unhinged. And when the attention starts to build on the book, pull out the photos of the Nazi flags flying with her beloved Militia movement.
Tom - Daai Tou Laam |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 8:56 pm | #
Whoa.
I know Kung Fu.
Uncle Smokes |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 8:56 pm | #
Don't wear pants if you want to
We can leave your bare behind
'Cause your friends wear pants and if they wear pants
Well they're no friends of mine...
Is that the Safety Pants song by Men Without Pants?
Toonscribe |
08.20.05 - 8:57 pm | #
Duncan commenting about conservatives banning liberals from commenting is the height of hypocrisy, seeing how quickly he pushes the ban button.
You're still allowed here, aren't you? Tell ya what, you do a quantitative analysis of the highest-traffic blogs on the left and right and get back to us with exact stats of how many winger sites allow comments at all, and how many have explicit policies about banning people who insult them, then contrast and compare to lefty sites.
Duncan commenting about conservatives banning liberals from commenting is the height of hypocrisy, seeing how quickly he pushes the ban button.
Robert
See? See what happens?
You link to his site. We all go over there -- all innocent and unknowing.
Next thing ya know?
He's here!!!
If this happens again -- you will be expelled from the Band.
flory, Business Manager |
08.20.05 - 8:57 pm | #
There is no gravy spoon. Uncle Smokes
And yet.....there is. flory
First there is a gravy spoon
Then there is no gravy spoon
Then there is...
JeffCO |
08.20.05 - 8:58 pm | #
hat, schwa and cog are all the same fuckwitted Nazi wannabe. Hate their country, hate freedom, obviously hate education of any kind. And Latoya, or whatever the puke's name is, is one of them. Hardly worth the time it takes to expose their pathologies.
ronjazz |
08.20.05 - 8:58 pm | #
I now enjoy talking politics with my ex-Republican Dad. He voted for Bush in 2000 but came to see the error of his ways...
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
08.20.05 - 8:58 pm | #
Note that she become sober after giving her life to Christ
Does everyone who does that become an asshole?
Look at Bush.
Maybe she should have stayed fucked up!
Terry C
take it from me, as one who has done the same, amen. well, maybe not as fucked as i was. you can be too fucked up, but even that is not as bad as being too much of an asshole. these days i try to strike a careful ballance.
cracks another beer, waits for chance to be an asshole.
charley |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 8:58 pm | #
JeffCo,
No, but I saw March of the Penguins and it was amazing.
Hecate |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 8:58 pm | #
Robert, was that after you said you hoped a female poster would get raped?
pie |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 8:58 pm | #
I remember the time he banned you and "Trevor" had to come speak up for you.
Trevor is teh hott!
I will do my damndest to ignore you when you troll at Atrios'. Alas, the spirit is willing, but the blogger is weak...
Shit. I already blew that one.
NTodd |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 9:00 pm | #
Bush stopped drinking but did it white knuckled without dealing with the issues that caused him to be a lush. He was a drunk asshole too. The booze had nothing to do with his temperment.
trifecta |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 9:00 pm | #
How about a pantless dishdasha? You know them Kurdish pantaloons? My kids used to call them 10-day shitters.
Nűr al-Cubicle |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 9:00 pm | #
Terry C
just substituting one addiction for another.
my ex would wobble back and forth between script drugs and booze until she decided to combine them.
Duncan commenting about conservatives banning liberals from commenting is the height of hypocrisy, seeing how quickly he pushes the ban button.
Robert
And yet, you're still here.
HoneyBearKelly |
08.20.05 - 9:02 pm | #
Does Duncan ban people for dissenting opinions? Yes, or no?
No.
Only when the poster hopes that a woman gets raped.
pie |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 9:02 pm | #
my ex would wobble back and forth between script drugs and booze until she decided to combine them.
-J.T.
JohnTomato
MY ex got addicted to AA, if you can believe that.
He has an addictive personality - has to overdo everything.
It was like he joined a cult!
Terry C |
08.20.05 - 9:02 pm | #
Last summer, Robbie's computer got fucked up, he couldn't post, and he figured Atios had banned him. Then he managed to post has his "good gay roommate" Trevor. It was one of the funniest things since the box turtle thread.
Hecate |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 9:02 pm | #
And yet, you're still here.
HoneyBearKelly | Email | 08.20.05 - 9:02 pm | #
Yup. After two bans.
Sorry sad liberal blogosphere. Such thin skins.
Robert |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 9:02 pm | #
Atrios bans people for contributing naught but snapshots of their asses. And as for ban alacrity, I give you exhibit A(ss): Robert.
JeffCO |
08.20.05 - 9:02 pm | #
D'ya think Condi and Bushy play dress-up? Masters and servants? Preacher and sinner?
Nűr al-Cubicle |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 9:03 pm | #
What makes this bint think she's THAT important?
The more thin skinned you are the better the rethuglican you are, obviously. Thats why the little Chimp rules them. OK, gotta go take these pants off.
bigvic |
08.20.05 - 9:03 pm | #
Duncan commenting about conservatives banning liberals from commenting is the hezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
Terry C |
08.20.05 - 9:03 pm | #
HoneyBearKelly
he hasn't started screaming, whining, or threatening folks yet. those get people tossed.
polite diverging opinions won't get you banned here.
Who will get married first? Condi or Annorexia Coulter?
trifecta |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 9:04 pm | #
D'ya think Condi and Bushy play dress-up? Masters and servants? Preacher and sinner?
Nűr al-Cubicle
The contessa and the chaffeur?
The stable boy and the milkmaid?
Terry C |
08.20.05 - 9:04 pm | #
he hasn't started screaming, whining, or threatening folks yet. those get people tossed.
polite diverging opinions won't get you banned here.
With all due politeness, baloney.
Robert |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 9:04 pm | #
Geez, I don't remember anyone being banned from here except for being a complete and perfect asshole, and ony one or two of them (obviously, since Robert the complete and perfect asshole is still shitting all over the thread). On top, of that, I recall one of our own being banned for a bit not so long ago. Robert, you relly need to get out more. I hear there are recruits needed in Iraqistan. Why don't you give that a try? You might learn about being an American instead of an asshole.
ronjazz |
08.20.05 - 9:04 pm | #
What a difference a week makes. Just last week Gary Qualls was hugging Cindy Sheehan and telling her he "loved" her.
Hesiod_2k@yahoo.com |
08.20.05 - 9:04 pm | #
Who will get married first? Condi or Annorexia Coulter?
trifecta
Neither, unless they marry one another!
Terry C |
08.20.05 - 9:04 pm | #
Yup. After two bans.
Shouldn't have said women deserve to be raped, Roberto.
pie |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 9:04 pm | #
The stable boy and the milkmaid?
Horsie and the milkman?
Uncle Smokes |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 9:05 pm | #
The contessa and the chaffeur? Bush is the contessa!
Nűr al-Cubicle |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 9:05 pm | #
Well, she can't BE W's imaginary wife.
Why not?
"I'm the commander - see, I don't need to explain - I don't need to explain why I say things. That's the interesting thing about being the President. Maybe somebody needs to explain to me why they say something, but I don't feel like I owe anybody an explanation."
Trolls talking about being banned here in the comments section is just too fucking funny.
I'll tell you what's funny. I drive past Fort Monmouth almost every day, and it's a popular site for antiwar picketing. So Wednesday afternoon, a few hours before the Sheehan candlelight vigils were to take place, I'm driving by and there are a couple of picketers there with signs saying "No More Protests"!
Karin |
08.20.05 - 9:05 pm | #
the kiss song "she's radioactive".
I always think of The Firm.
Does Duncan ban people for dissenting opinions? Yes, or no? Get back to me on that will you?
No, he most certainly does not. He bans people for being absolutely fucking beyond the pale, such as Toby who calls 9/11 widows whores, or people who repeatedly call Tena a cunt, or just copy and paste the same fucking talking points over and over again, disrupting the flow of the thread whilst adding no value whatsoever.
I have dissented from the prevailing view here and never been banned, as have other regular Atriots and drive-bys. It's when you jackasses clearly demonstrate you are not interested in real debate that you get banned.
So you, for example, are still here despite being a dickweed. I'm certainly not convinced you are actually interested in intellectually-honest discourse, but you haven't hit the threshold yet. Much like my new friend Charlie, who is the most annoying fucking winger troll this side of your right asscheek. My readers demanded I ban him, and rightly so, because he was completely devoid of honor. However, he's been behaving once I spelled out the rules, and I look forward to his keeping us all on our toes.
And, once again, Robbie the Robot, could you please tell me how many winger blogs allow comments at all versus lefty sites?
NTodd |
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08.20.05 - 9:06 pm | #
Yup. After two bans.
Shouldn't have said women deserve to be raped, Roberto.
pie | Email | Homepage | 08.20.05 - 9:04 pm | #
No, that was one of your namestealers. After all, if you can't counter with logic, you resort to juvenile tactics. I might point out how pathetic that is, but it could get me my third ban.
Robert |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 9:06 pm | #
George bypasses Condi and fondles the oil tanker named after her.
Uncle Smokes |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 9:06 pm | #
Only when the poster hopes that a woman gets raped.
pie
Who said that? Toby Putzhole?
Gordon the Magnificunt?
Terry C |
08.20.05 - 9:06 pm | #
Come on, A-Man, give us a SciFi liveblogging thread!
Chris Tucker |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 9:06 pm | #
Who will get married first? Condi or Annorexia Coulter?
trifecta
There's always the strong possibility they'll get married at the exact same time.
In the same place.
flory, Business Manager |
08.20.05 - 9:06 pm | #
What a difference a week makes. Just last week Gary Qualls was hugging Cindy Sheehan and telling her he "loved" her.
And, once again, Robbie the Robot, could you please tell me how many winger blogs allow comments at all versus lefty sites?
NTodd | Email | Homepage | 08.20.05 - 9:06 pm | #
Visit Redstate.org. Every time someone makes a point about Cindy Sheehan's history, the "Cindy Squad" comes in for a full-on invasion.
Robert |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 9:08 pm | #
I know Hong Kong Phooey.
#1 super guy?
I used to watch that when I was a kid. One of my faves.
NTodd |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 9:08 pm | #
I did enjoy March of the Penguins, mostly for the sheer amazement of the filmmaking. I'm planning to go see the new Bergman film, Saraband, that revisits Johan and Marianne from Scenes From A Marriage thirty years later. I just watched the original six-hour Swedish TV miniseries of that on the Criterion Collection edition (he edited it down to the 3-hour theatrical release). Unbelievably brilliant piece of work if you haven't seen it.
JeffCO |
08.20.05 - 9:08 pm | #
How about a total dick?
Terry C |
08.20.05 - 9:09 pm | #
"If I have to sacrifice my whole family for the sake of our country and world, other countries that want freedom, I'll do that," said Qualls, a friend of the local business owner who started the pro-Bush camp, Bill Johnson.
Stunning. His whole family? Sez a friend of the local business owner who started the pro-Bush camp.
What the fuck is the matter with these people?
pie |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 9:09 pm | #
The contessa and the chaffeur?
The stable boy and the milkmaid?
Terry C
The Producers.
HoneyBearKelly |
08.20.05 - 9:09 pm | #
Every time someone makes a point about Cindy Sheehan's history, the "Cindy Squad" comes in for a full-on invasion.
Robert |
Oh, yes - must never nay-say the Cindy-slimers!
Terry C |
08.20.05 - 9:09 pm | #
Visit Redstate.org.
I do regularly. Now, how many winger blogs allow comments at all versus lefty sites? DON'T WAIT FOR THE TRANSLATION: ANSWER THE QUESTION!
NTodd |
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08.20.05 - 9:10 pm | #
"Witch! Prove to me that you can't fly, or we burn you at the stake!"
Trolls may lie. But so does Duncan, when he accuses conservative bloggers of being "thin skinned" and quick to ban.
Robert |
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08.20.05 - 9:10 pm | #
Who needs LSD if you are reading this thread?
mer |
08.20.05 - 9:10 pm | #
Can I just say that the blogging protocols of moronic right-wingers is absolutely, utterly trivial to me. So completely irrelevant that hesiod will be pissed.
rorschach |
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08.20.05 - 9:10 pm | #
Bush stopped drinking but did it white knuckled without dealing with the issues that caused him to be a lush. He was a drunk asshole too. The booze had nothing to do with his temperment.
trifecta
I think he's a born sociopath.
The fact that he's a spoiled brat who's never had to face the consequences for his actions sure didn't help matters.
Terry C |
08.20.05 - 9:10 pm | #
"one of your namestealers"
there's that ownership and personal responsibility shining through.
the "Cindy Squad" comes in for a full-on invasion.
What's your mama's name, Robert?
If you died for a lie, would she cry for you and want answers?
pie |
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08.20.05 - 9:10 pm | #
Terry C
some reverse mandingo thing, I think....
Immanentize |
08.20.05 - 9:11 pm | #
And, once again, Robbie the Robot, could you please tell me how many winger blogs allow comments at all versus lefty sites?
NTodd | Email | Homepage | 08.20.05 - 9:06 pm | #
Visit Redstate.org. Every time someone makes a point about Cindy Sheehan's history, the "Cindy Squad" comes in for a full-on invasion.
Robert
Oh, yes - must never nay-say the Cindy-slimers!
Terry C | Email | 08.20.05 - 9:09 pm | #
Because if you have a son who died in Iraq, this makes everything about Ms. Sheehan's personal life and her years-long hatred of George Bush completely immune to criticism. (yawn)
Robert |
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08.20.05 - 9:11 pm | #
But so does Duncan, when he accuses conservativzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
Terry C |
08.20.05 - 9:11 pm | #
"If I have to sacrifice my whole family for the sake of our country and world, other countries that want freedom, I'll do that," said Qualls
So why aren't they all in Iraq?
flory, Business Manager |
08.20.05 - 9:12 pm | #
I suggest hesiod and Robert engage in a blog off. Somewhere secret.
trifecta |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 9:12 pm | #
Ninny and the Professor.
Toonscribe |
08.20.05 - 9:12 pm | #
I don't know about Eli Manning.
Sometimes he looks like he's got happy feet and sometimes he shows flashes of brilliance.
HoneyBearKelly |
08.20.05 - 9:12 pm | #
criticism. (yawn)
Robert
The crap those people spew, you consider criticism?
Terry C |
08.20.05 - 9:13 pm | #
If you died for a lie, would she cry for you and want answers?
pie | Email | Homepage | 08.20.05 - 9:10 pm | #
Casey Sheehan re-enlisted while in Iraq. I guess he believed in what he died for.
Whereas Cindy has lied not only about her past comments ("I never said that thing about PNAC and my son dying for Israel!") but about her first meeting with George Bush.
Robert |
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08.20.05 - 9:13 pm | #
Bushy: Condi, show me how you talk tough! Then plan the piano nekkid for me.
Nűr al-Cubicle |
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08.20.05 - 9:13 pm | #
If I have to sacrifice my whole family for the sake of our country and world, other countries that want freedom, I'll do that," said Qualls
The Iraq quagmire is NOT about freedom.
How fucking stupid ARE these wingers?
Terry C |
08.20.05 - 9:14 pm | #
but even that is not as bad as being too much of an asshole. these days i try to strike a careful ballance.
cracks another beer, waits for chance to be an asshole.
charley
You're never an asshole, charley. Boosh was an asshole before, during and (perhaps)after he quit drinking. Drinking tends to highlight the underlying personality. Assholes become more so when drunk just like really nice people tend to be the "I love you guys!!!!!!!!!" types when they're drunk.
And as you know, I am a highly respected sykiatrist.
bigvic |
08.20.05 - 9:14 pm | #
Trolls may lie. But so does Duncan, when he accuses conservative bloggers of being "thin skinned" and quick to ban.
Blah blah blah duncan banned me blah blah blah clinton got a blow job blah blah blah cindy sheehan is a media whore blah blah balh. Bush is protecting us blah blah blah I am a dick blah blah blah.
See, tha main thing, Robert, is that you are a liar. But we can see through you, cause we've been lied to all of our lives by the best: Reagan, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Kissinger, Nixon. The best liars in American history. Totally without shame, over and over again, up to and including today. If Bill Clinton had been anywhere near as good a liar as Bushboy is, he'd be a fuckin' hero, cause he managed to get very few servicepeople killed, he managed to run the government into a surplus, and he had fun. He was a great republican president. But he couldn't be a real Repig, because he never really got the lying thing down like you folks have. But, you are still a beginner, rank and transparent. Good luck with your fantasy world; I guess we're all going to need it, as you and yours take the real one apart, buck by buck.
ronjazz |
08.20.05 - 9:15 pm | #
Casey Sheehan re-enlisted while in Iraq. I guess he believed in what he died for.
So maybe (if what you say is true) he had the courage of his convictions, unlike you and 99% of you asshole war fetishists.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
08.20.05 - 9:15 pm | #
Casey Sheehan re-enlisted while in Iraq. I guess he believed in what he died for.
I want a citation for his alleged re-enlisting whilst in Iraq.
NTodd |
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08.20.05 - 9:15 pm | #
Bag a hammers STOOpid!
Terry C |
08.20.05 - 9:16 pm | #
Whereas Cindy has lied not only about her past comments ("I never said that thing about PNAC and my son dying for Israel!") but about her first meeting with George Bush.
Prove she said anything about PNAC. And when did she lie about her first meeting with Bush? Citations, please, no assertions.
NTodd |
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08.20.05 - 9:16 pm | #
Translation: "The truth hurts, but I'll never admit it!"
robert forgets, or perhaps is ignorant of, the fact that as soon as mad king george was placed in power that the newsmax forum instituted a rule that any negative post concerning bush would get you banned.
not too long after they retired the forum because their heart & soul posters were getting their clocks cleaned.
mrc.org just did away with comments without explanation. once again having your reader call the feds because of death threats cramps a "latest wave" conservatives style.
Go to the end of the article, NTodd. Similar articles aren't hard to find, either on the Web or at Google News.
Robert |
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08.20.05 - 9:17 pm | #
Casey Sheehan re-enlisted while in Iraq. I guess he believed in what he died for.
...
I want a citation for his alleged re-enlisting whilst in Iraq.
And I want the make and model of the Ouija board that passed on Mr. Sheehan's beliefs to you.
Uncle Smokes |
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08.20.05 - 9:17 pm | #
Bushy: Condi, show me how you talk tough to Zapatero, then play the piano bare-assed for me. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Lump, kiss Condi's ass. Tha's right. Crawford's the only place I can get the menage-a-trois action. Fifteen more days! Ya-hoo!
Nűr al-Cubicle |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 9:18 pm | #
There is no troll.
I have great control over the Matrix, but not that much. There are still Agents, and there are still Trolls.
NTodd (aka Neo) |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 9:18 pm | #
dh lawrence is enjoying this soooo much
WoodyGuthriesGuitar |
08.20.05 - 9:18 pm | #
"her years-long hatred of George Bush"
You say that like it's a BAD thing.
Terry C |
08.20.05 - 9:18 pm | #
Casey Sheehan re-enlisted while in Iraq. I guess he believed in what he died for.
This of course is the military equivalent of "she was asking for it". I mean, why did they sign up if they didn't want to be sent to die in an unnecessary war based on fake intel and outright lies so that the Carlysle group and friends could loot an entire country and fleece the public coffers at home?
Or you might think about the idea that virtually all soldiers fight for their friends and comrades and their own personal sense of honor and duty, not pie-in-the-sky ideologies.
JeffCO |
08.20.05 - 9:18 pm | #
raises an eyebrow at Atrios
ZuZu's Petals |
08.20.05 - 9:19 pm | #
Miss Connie and all the boys and girls in the magic mirror?
The possibilities are endless....
Hmmm.
H.R. Puffinstuff and Witchypoo.
"Can't do a little, 'cause you can't do enough."
Oh, and there is no trolll.
driftglass |
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08.20.05 - 9:20 pm | #
I'm driving by and there are a couple of picketers there with signs saying "No More Protests"!
Karin |
too special. like "get a clue Morans"
well, cant' have dissent it undermines our glorious leader. which leads me to my question.
in a politcal/social sense does the term Islamofascists even make any sense? i see this moronic descriptor on every rightie blog i've ever been too, repeatedly.
psychologically it strikes me as a reaction to fear. which is another notable characteristic of rightie sites. to be fair, maybe that's why we call repukes fascists, altho i think selling the government off to corporations makes that assertion more supportable.
charley |
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08.20.05 - 9:20 pm | #
NTodd:
Go here for Cindy's original remarks. The Usenet post is March 15, 2005.
If you died for a lie, would she cry for you and want answers?
pie
Hell no! What a total load of tripe the notion of our soldiers in Iraq fighting for our freedom. They'd be fighting GWB if they were fighting for that.
bigvic |
08.20.05 - 9:20 pm | #
Casey Sheehan re-enlisted into the service, knowing the dangers he would face, he said. Being a part of an effort larger than himself was what drove him to be an Eagle Scout, an altar boy and an avid volunteer around the community, Corrington said."
Ummm....Robert??
You moronic fuckwit. Where in this paragraph does it say he re-enlisted in Iraq????
flory, Business Manager |
08.20.05 - 9:20 pm | #
D'ya think Condi and Bushy play dress-up?
Escaped convict and the warden's wife
Jim Faith |
08.20.05 - 9:20 pm | #
Bush and Condi dress-up?
Seabiscuit and jockey?
Terry C |
08.20.05 - 9:21 pm | #
Casey Sheehan re-enlisted while in Iraq. I guess he believed in what he died for.
Casey Sheehan re-enlisted into the service, knowing the dangers he would face, he said. Being a part of an effort larger than himself was what drove him to be an Eagle Scout, an altar boy and an avid volunteer around the community, Corrington said.
Am I emotional? Yes, my first born was murdered. Am I angry? Yes, he was killed for lies and for a PNAC Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel. My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel. Am I stupid? No, I know full-well that my son, my family, this nation, and this world were betrayed by a George Bush who was influenced by the neo-con PNAC agenda after 9/11. We were told that we were attacked on 9/11 because the terrorists hate our freedoms and democracy...not for the real reason, becuase the Arab-Muslims who attacked us hate our middle-eastern foreign policy. That hasn't changed since America invaded and occupied Iraq...in fact it has gotten worse.
It would be so amazing if your show would put me, or another parent who lost their child on who disagrees with the war and this administration: to have just an entire show..without presenting the false side of the debate. That would take a lot of courage and integrity. I hope your program will exhibit these qualities.
Cindy's words, if you don't have courage to look them up on Usenet.
Robert |
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08.20.05 - 9:22 pm | #
George Bush and Condi Rice
AS
Frank Booth and Dorothy Valens
Immanentize |
08.20.05 - 9:22 pm | #
Cindy stated this week that the letter being sent around under her name (to which trollRobert has linked) has been edited from what she wrote. Of course, trolls don't care about that.
JeffCO |
08.20.05 - 9:22 pm | #
D'ya think Condi and Bushy play dress-up?
Poppa Smurf and Smurfette?
Terry C |
08.20.05 - 9:22 pm | #
The Tiffany salesman and the lady who forgot her credit card?
The milkman and the houewife?
The traveling salesman and the barmaid?
The shy introvert and the brassy blonde?
The gambler and the card shark?
Stop me if you've heard these....
Hecate |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 9:22 pm | #
Bush and Condi dress-up?
Ricky Santorum and Old Yeller?
driftglass |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 9:23 pm | #
Mr. Sheehan reenlisted while his unit was preparing to go to Iraq, in August of 2003. He died in April, 2004.
Robert |
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08.20.05 - 9:23 pm | #
Cindy's words, if you don't have courage to look them up on Usenet.
Robert
sooooo, what part of it do you have a problem with?
Terry C |
08.20.05 - 9:23 pm | #
----- Original Message -----
From: SCINDY...@aol.com
To: ter...@mweb.co.th ; bullyard@googlegroups.com
The mobster and the gun moll?
Terry C |
08.20.05 - 9:24 pm | #
ATRIOS HAS HIRED HELLS ANGELS TO WORK SECURITY AT ESCHACON.
j |
08.20.05 - 9:25 pm | #
Go to the end of the article, NTodd.
Sorry, but for some reason the article isn't loading (I'm having satellite issues, compounded by some flakiness due to a harddrive at capacity). Why don't you provide a quote for me?
Similar articles aren't hard to find, either on the Web or at Google News.
I refuse to do your legwork. You make an assertion, you back it up.
NTodd (aka Neo) |
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08.20.05 - 9:25 pm | #
Cindy stated this week that the letter being sent around under her name (to which trollRobert has linked) has been edited from what she wrote. Of course, trolls don't care about that.
JeffCO | Email | 08.20.05 - 9:22 pm | #
Yes, George W. Bush, after locking up the machine that caused Cindy's mother's stroke, traveled back in time to March to mystically edit the Usenet post.
Thank you for playing.
Robert |
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08.20.05 - 9:25 pm | #
Another thing is that the Israel thing has not died. I did not say that my son died for Israel. I have never said it, I don't think it, I don't believe it. It is just another lie, smear tactic from the right. It needs to die right now. It's not the truth. I stand by everything that I have said. But I will not stand by things that I haven't said. I am not anti-Semitic. I am just anti-killing. George Bush is responsible for killing so many people, but nobody scrutinizes anything he says, especially leading up to the war. Since there is nothing to smear me about with the truth, they have to tell lies. A former friend who is anti-Israel and wants to use the spotlight on me to push his anti-Semitism is telling everyone who is listening that I believe that Casey died for Israel and has gone so far as to apparently doctor an email from me. People have to know that he doesn't speak for me. ABC Nightline can't confirm his email is real and therefore any reporting on it is irresponsible. That is not my issue. That is not my message and anyone who knows me knows it doesn't sound like me.
Waging war in Iraq was WRONG.
mer |
08.20.05 - 9:26 pm | #
What a total load of tripe the notion of our soldiers in Iraq fighting for our freedom. They'd be fighting GWB if they were fighting for that.
bigvic
Hear, hear!
And boy would I love to see the military in full revolt against Preznit Fuckwad.
Terry C |
08.20.05 - 9:26 pm | #
Casey Sheehan re-enlisted while in Iraq
casey was a marine. Semper Fi. it'd be the honorable thing to do. band of brothers, yada, yada, yada. still does not excuse his commander in chief sending young boys to die in a war that is not making us safer, based on a pack of demonstrable lies.
the war in iraq has fundamentally undermined the so called "war on terror" worse yet, it appears that's just what the bush junta wants. war without end. lovely. whoever said it. signup.
charley |
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08.20.05 - 9:26 pm | #
sooooo, what part of it do you have a problem with?
Terry C | Email | 08.20.05 - 9:23 pm | #
Just about all of it. When Cindy is confronted with the "My boy died for Israel!" speech, she looks like one of those wild-eyed ANSWER lefties. Which, she is.
Robert |
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08.20.05 - 9:26 pm | #
I guess he believed in what he died for.
No, you mean, "I guess he believed the lies we sold him."
It's the same thing the televangelists chuckle to themselves as they count the cash donations.
melior |
08.20.05 - 9:27 pm | #
George W. Bush, after locking up the machine that caused Cindy's mother's strokzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz@
Time to stop feeding the troll, folks.
Terry C |
08.20.05 - 9:27 pm | #
What's this? Picking at the retarded when you could be watching schlocky sci-fi?
I'm disappointed in you guys.
mena |
08.20.05 - 9:27 pm | #
Usenet?
OMG.
I'm laughing so hard I almost fell off my chair.
HoneyBearKelly |
08.20.05 - 9:27 pm | #
If you're too lazy to make use of Google, I can't help you. If I brought back Casey's papers signed in his own blood, the left would claim they were ingenious forgeries.
The truth hurts. You alone have to grapple with that. The American public will decide, and that terrifies you.
Robert |
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08.20.05 - 9:28 pm | #
Mr. Sheehan reenlisted while his unit was preparing to go to Iraq, in August of 2003.
This makes him less dead in a war built on lies exactly how???
I think we're done with this motherfucker.
dave™ |
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08.20.05 - 9:29 pm | #
Bush and Condi dress-up?
Dick Nixon and Henry Kissinger?
Terry C |
08.20.05 - 9:29 pm | #
he re-upped for his buddies...
Just as Hackett did for his Marine bros. And my cousin S.
And Robert, your link for Cindy's comments is not an original source. Sorry, but that doesn't cut it.
NTodd (aka Neo) |
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08.20.05 - 9:29 pm | #
Here's Cindy from her own blog post (not that trollRobert cares):
still, her son died for israel, or Saudi Arabia, not for the USA...
WoodyGuthriesGuitar |
08.20.05 - 9:29 pm | #
Time to stop feeding the troll, folks.
Terry C | Email | 08.20.05 - 9:27 pm | #
Translation: "He used facts against me! Waaahhh!! That's not allowed!!"
Robert |
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08.20.05 - 9:29 pm | #
Time to stop feeding the troll, folks.
Waaaaaay past time.
Just pretend they don't exist.
Do it for the children!
Central Scrutinizer |
08.20.05 - 9:29 pm | #
CINDY SHEEHAN: He thought it was probably for oil, and he didn't want to go. He didn't agree that the President was using his troops wisely. And I begged him not to go, and he said, “Mom, I have to go. My buddies are going.” And if I had known that, you know, if I had known what was going to happen to him, I think I probably would have tried to force him into Canada or something, but, you know, he was an adult, and he thought it was his duty, and so I was as supportive as I could be. He was only there for five days, though, before he was killed.
pie |
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08.20.05 - 9:29 pm | #
Mr. Sheehan reenlisted while his unit was preparing to go to Iraq, in August of 2003. He died in April, 2004.
Robert
1. What part of the difference between 'while his unit was preparing to go to Iraq' and 'in Iraq' is giving you trouble?
2. Looks like another unsupported assertion to me -- where's the cite?
flory, Business Manager |
08.20.05 - 9:30 pm | #
she looks like one of those wild-eyed ANSWER lefties
Easy, that's someone's Mom you're talking about there. Just cause he can't come over and kick your ass doesn't mean he wouldn't.
melior |
08.20.05 - 9:30 pm | #
The ghost and Mrs. Muir?
The owl and the pussycat?
Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde? Hey, isn't Condi a PhD, and didn't the chimp spend 9/11 hyding?
Ahianne |
08.20.05 - 9:30 pm | #
The War in IraQ IS THE MOST NOBLE AND JUST WAR SINCE THE CIVIL WAR.
KKO |
08.20.05 - 9:30 pm | #
Casey Sheehan died for Bushco's lies. Cindy Sheehan is being attacked by Robert's lies. They have no respect for human life, just like all of their past bogeymen, especially brown and yellow ones. But now they've added the military and their families to their hate list. Lie about Kerry, lie about Cleland, lie about Cindy Sheehan, and defend the lies believed by Casey Sheehan. The only thing that gives me hope is that no scheme can exist for very long on a foundation of lies. It's one thing to believe; it's very different to find out that you've been lied to, and that your sons and daughters are dead, and your Social Security is gone, and your taxes are higher because of cuts to the wealthy, and your heating and transportation costs have just about doubled ever since the Supreme Court abdicated its responsibility, and Republican governors are an endangered species, by their own hands in the till. Lots of shrill there, Robert-hat-cog-toby-othershitheads, sounds like screaming, like when the ship starts tilting, and Shelley Winters goes ape. That's what you and Malkin and Gibson, you who take pleasure at other's pain and loss, are sounding very much like. It's painful, but has its moments of pleasure...
ronjazz |
08.20.05 - 9:30 pm | #
And Robert, your link for Cindy's comments is not an original source. Sorry, but that doesn't cut it.
NTodd (aka Neo) | Email | Homepage | 08.20.05 - 9:29 pm | #
Define "original source". NTodd, you won't be happy until I supply the magnetic spool the comment was first stored on, complete with a notarized affidavit from the SysAdmin.
Robert |
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08.20.05 - 9:30 pm | #
The truth hurts. You alone have to grapple with that. The American public will decide, and that terrifies you.
Robert
The American public will decide?
READ THE POLLS!
Can we ban someone for being a stupid pain in the ass?
Because I've had it with this jerkoff!
Terry C |
08.20.05 - 9:30 pm | #
Off topic:
'The Afghani and Iraqi constitutions: A Theocracy coming to an American nation nearest you'
With the iraqi constitution now endorsing a theocratic state, and the Afghani one already a mirror copy, we can expect that the Dobsons and other dominionists are drooling to see if these theocracies can survive and flourish. If they do then they have a model of success upon which to base their own claims that a christian-based American theocracy can one-up them even better cause we have more nukes.
What really bothers me about this is how the administration and the neocon wingnuts all bragged about this war being about freedom.
As the conquering nation we had every right, and perhaps even a duty, to ensure that the U.S bill of rights was used as a model of comparison. So why wasn't it?
I also think that the idiot administration basically cowered before the religious right by not convincing the Iraqi delegation that a way to prevent a civil war, to ensure the fairness of all islamic faiths, Sunni, Shi'a and Kurdish and their equality under the new laws was to ensure that the constitution was entirely secular. That an iraqi establishment clause was needed.
But if the Bush administration pushed for that there, they'd be pressured by democrats and liberals to push it here and that just wasn't going to be so when so many on the right are trying to say there is no such clause and are fighting to prevent the notion from spreading that there is one.
So what is the result?
A theocratic state in Iraq and christians not caring cause they figure it will burn in a civil war in no time proving why such a muslim state will fail, while here in the states there is no belief that a christian state will fail cause it is, afterall, a 'christian' state, and in their arrogance such a thing won't fail.
Assume evetything everyone says bad about Cindy Sheehan is true (which it isn't) but just let it wash over you
So the Fuck What?
She is flawed and angry but still,
She has given a son and she wants to know for what.
Do parents have to be perfect to care for their kids (if so, I am out as a parent to the little nubber at right).
Do parents have to be perfect to want to know why their kid died?
Do poor parents have less love for their children than rich?
Jewish or Moslem parents less relationship to their kids than christians?
Liberals less than Conservatives?
This is Robert's lesson of hate:
Only I and those who believe what I believe are worthy to speak. Not only for our children, but others are not even worthy to speak for themselves, for their grief, for their loss, for their love.
Although he seems way too selfish ever to have a child and admit its parentage. Or perhaps any woman would be too stupid to admit he was the father.
So let's see a picture of your kids, fuckface.
Immanentize |
08.20.05 - 9:31 pm | #
Thought exercise....
Assume evetything everyone says bad about Cindy Sheehan is true (which it isn't) but just let it wash over you
So the Fuck What?
She is flawed and angry but still,
She has given a son and she wants to know for what.
Do parents have to be perfect to care for their kids (if so, I am out as a parent to the little nubber at right).
Do parents have to be perfect to want to know why their kid died?
Do poor parents have less love for their children than rich?
Jewish or Moslem parents less relationship to their kids than christians?
Liberals less than Conservatives?
This is Robert's lesson of hate:
Only I and those who believe what I believe are worthy to speak. Not only for our children, but others are not even worthy to speak for themselves, for their grief, for their loss, for their love.
Although he seems way too selfish ever to have a child and admit its parentage. Or perhaps any woman would be too stupid to admit he was the father.
So let's see a picture of your kids, fuckface.
Immanentize |
08.20.05 - 9:31 pm | #
They have no respect for human life, just like all of their past bogeymen, especially brown and yellow ones.
Please, I hear how some of you guys (not all of you) talk about Armstrong Williams and Michelle Malkin. "Uncle Tom" is merely one of the printable expressions of contempt you use.
Robert |
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08.20.05 - 9:31 pm | #
casey was a marine. Semper Fi.
No, he was an Army Specialist.
If I brought back Casey's papers signed in his own blood, the left would claim they were ingenious forgeries.
Incorrect. We would have the ability to fact-check in that case. You've shown us a fucking USENET post as though it were Moses come down from the mountain top. Get real.
NTodd (aka Neo) |
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08.20.05 - 9:31 pm | #
ronjazz:
Once again, you've told it exactly like it is and eloquently.
Terry C |
08.20.05 - 9:31 pm | #
Five days.
I didn't know he was only there for five days.
This has got to stop.
pie |
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08.20.05 - 9:32 pm | #
uNSUPPORTED ASSERTION? YOU MEAN LIKE THE FRAUDULENT DOCS DAN RATHER TRIED TO PUSH OFF ON THE AMERICAN PUBLIC.
KKO | 08.20.05 - 9:31 pm | #
A misguided attempt at support, but it is relevant.
Liberals don't care about whether the message is true or not. They only care if the messenger has the right liberal credentials.
Robert |
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08.20.05 - 9:32 pm | #
Bush and Condi dress-up?
Rhett & Scarlett?
Marshall Dillon and Miss Kitty?
Tarzan & Jane?
Or Cheeta and Jane?
Karin |
08.20.05 - 9:33 pm | #
The war in Iraq is the most ignoble and unjust act since the Mexican War.
Nűr al-Cubicle |
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08.20.05 - 9:33 pm | #
Hey TrollRobert, if you are feeling sinister, go off and see a minister - he’ll try in vain to take away the pain of being a hopeless unbeliever
JeffCO |
08.20.05 - 9:33 pm | #
I hear how some of you guys (not all of you) talk about Armstrong Williams and Michelle Malkzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
Terry C |
08.20.05 - 9:33 pm | #
Bush and Condi dress-up?
Jack Lemmon and Lee Remick...but can you guess the movie?
BTW 4-out-of-5 doctors agree that trolls suffer from incurable moral autism and ethical degeneracy. They are congenitally unable to admit error, so when they are faced with the fact they have,say, slavishly backed war criminals and traitors...they equivocate like oiled-up otters on speed.
"Sure I killed everyone in the house...but, but, but Jimmy stole a candy bar!"
Which is why there is no troll.
driftglass |
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08.20.05 - 9:33 pm | #
I'd really like somebody to explain what's wrong with saying our soldiers are dying for israel. They, in fact, are, far more so than for this country.
mena |
08.20.05 - 9:33 pm | #
Robert, Casey Sheehan was killed five days after he got to Iraq.
pie |
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08.20.05 - 9:34 pm | #
Define "original source".
Video. A recording. A contemporaneous news report at the very least.
An e-mail floating around USENET is shit and you know it, you disingenuous fuckwad.
NTodd (aka Neo) |
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08.20.05 - 9:34 pm | #
Bush and Condi dress-up?
Tony Randall and Jack Lemmon in Some Like It Hot.
Terry C |
08.20.05 - 9:34 pm | #
I'd really like somebody to explain what's wrong with saying our soldiers are dying for israel. They, in fact, are, far more so than for this country.
mena |
Thank you!
And criticizing Israel is no more "anti-Semitic" than criticizing Preznit Fuckwad is "anti-American."
Terry C |
08.20.05 - 9:35 pm | #
I'd really like somebody to explain what's wrong with saying our soldiers are dying for israel. They, in fact, are, far more so than for this country.
mena | Email | 08.20.05 - 9:33 pm | #
Because the implication is "Israel isn't worth dying for because they're a bunch of -- ". The American public will fill in the blanks. Indeed, they've already started to.
Robert |
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08.20.05 - 9:35 pm | #
We are in Iraq to secure the oil.
Not for weapons of mass destruction, not for spreading freedom in the mideast, not for whatever the hell else this administration says.
So, Robert, shut the fuck up.
mer |
08.20.05 - 9:36 pm | #
A theocratic state in Iraq and christians not caring
Robert and Trevor later tonight.
Central Scrutinizer |
08.20.05 - 9:36 pm | #
An e-mail floating around USENET is shit and you know it, you disingenuous fuckwad.
NTodd (aka Neo)
I guess he'll link us to Drudge next
ZuZu's Petals |
08.20.05 - 9:36 pm | #
Maybe 10-15 years ago, I recall reading an article about a possible danger with the internet:
People will be able to select news and opinion sources they already agree with or that confirms their views.
Steve J. |
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08.20.05 - 9:36 pm | #
Because the implication is "Israel isn't worth dying for because they're a bunch ofzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
Terry C |
08.20.05 - 9:36 pm | #
Anybody remember that episode of M*A*S*H when Klinger was convinced by the recruiting Sergeant (that dude who played the former astronaut in Northern Exposure...whatshisname) to re-enlist?
NTodd (aka Neo) |
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08.20.05 - 9:36 pm | #
Time to stop feeding the troll, folks.
Waaaaaay past time.
Just pretend they don't exist.
Word. We don't need to have the thread crapped up with the utter bullshit those morons pump out. Too many intelligent folks to type with for that.
bigvic |
08.20.05 - 9:36 pm | #
Jack Lemmon and Lee Remick...but can you guess the movie?
Days of Wine and Roses
Toonscribe |
08.20.05 - 9:36 pm | #
rich's column is up -- the swiftboating of cindy sheehan. the least the nyt could do is make available the two articles that rich links to in the column. but, nooooo, they're archived.
bkny |
08.20.05 - 9:36 pm | #
Ah...
I see the willfully stupid Rob is here.
Pie, please share the popcorn. It's going to be interesting.
Diane |
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08.20.05 - 9:37 pm | #
Batman and Catwoman?
Hans Solo and Chewbaka?
Kirk and O'Hoora?
Batman and Robin?
The Goth chick and the businessman?
The troll and the three billygoats gruff?
Hecate |
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08.20.05 - 9:37 pm | #
Y'all really need to stop letting this fucknozzle rile you up.
Robert, do The USA a big favor, just kill yourself now. Alive, you just consume our oxygen. Dead, you could at least be useful as fertilizer.
Happy trails, kids. Back later perhaps.
BlakNo1 |
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08.20.05 - 9:37 pm | #
Maurice! The astronaut's name was Maurice! Now what was the actor's name? Barry Corbin? Gotta go to IMDB now...
NTodd (aka Neo) |
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08.20.05 - 9:38 pm | #
We are in Iraq to secure the oil.
And because Saddam tried to kill DUMBya's daddy.
At least Bush I knew when to get the hell out of there.
Terry C |
08.20.05 - 9:38 pm | #
uNSUPPORTED ASSERTION? YOU MEAN LIKE THE FRAUDULENT DOCS DAN RATHER TRIED TO PUSH OFF ON THE AMERICAN PUBLIC.
KKO 9:31 pm
Liberals don't care about whether the message is true or not. They only care if the messenger has the right liberal credentials.
Robert
What we care about, Trevor, is whether or not the messenger can back up his claims with proof.
You cannot.
You have not answered a single question put to you tonight with anything resembling proof. The one actual source document you cited -- the Woodland paper -- did not in any way, shape or form support your assertion.
Therefore we take great pleasure in pointing out what a moronic fuckwit shitnozzle you are.
Who is Tony Tersch, and why is he posting letters supposedly written by Cindy?
test |
08.20.05 - 9:39 pm | #
uNSUPPORTED ASSERTION? YOU MEAN LIKE THE FRAUDULENT DOCS DAN RATHER TRIED TO PUSH OFF ON THE AMERICAN PUBLIC.
KKO
The kerning of your post is all wrong.
The kerning on Casey Sheehan's death certificate, however, is spot on. Alas.
rorschach |
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08.20.05 - 9:39 pm | #
This thread is what you get when you talk to these fools.
I'd so much rather hear you all talking about alien monsters, man-mosquitos, and science babes.
mena |
08.20.05 - 9:39 pm | #
The troll and the three billygoats gruff?
Hecate
Snorts!!! Damn, that was funny!!
ZuZu's Petals |
08.20.05 - 9:39 pm | #
Hmmm, Rob, still waiting on the pictures of your children.
Or if that doesn't count, how about pictures of anyone you give a shit about?
Immanentize |
08.20.05 - 9:39 pm | #
well, I'm done with this troll. can somebody put on some pants and drag him off?
Christ, even Rumsfeld makes more sense than Robert. Fuckin' rube.
ronjazz |
08.20.05 - 9:40 pm | #
please share the popcorn. It's going to be interesting.
I am more than happy to.
Wow. What a ride.
pie |
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08.20.05 - 9:40 pm | #
Bush and Condi dress-up?
Hitler and Eva?
Complete with jackboots!
Terry C |
08.20.05 - 9:40 pm | #
Hey trollRobert, how's recruitment been going for your Army of the 12 Monkeys - finding anyone nuttier than you are to go along?
JeffCO |
08.20.05 - 9:40 pm | #
Days of Wine and Roses
Toonscribe,
Congrats. There is a frosty adult beverage awaiting you on you next trip to Chicago.
If you cannot accept your prized in person, a libidenous liberal lass of your choice may accept in your stead.
driftglass |
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08.20.05 - 9:40 pm | #
On April 27, 2005, Ms. Sheehan gave a speech at San Francisco State University in support of Lynne Stewart. In February 2005, Ms. Stewart was convicted of five counts of defrauding the government, conspiracy, and providing support for terrorism -– namely by aiding "the Blind Sheik,”" Omar Abdel Rahman.'
You know, the guy who bombed the World Trade Center in 1993. Ask him what HE thought about Israel.
This is the speech where Ms. Sheehan called George W. Bush "the biggest terrorist in the world". I'd like to ask her what she thought of Ms. Stewart's pal, Sheikh Rahman.
Robert |
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08.20.05 - 9:40 pm | #
Let me explain what WGG is referring to, Robert you chickenhawk fool.
A man or woman with real friends in a river of shit will often wade back into it to do his part to help them until they are safe.
That has nothing to do with wanting that river of shit to be there, or thinking it is a good and righteous river of shit, or supporting the crooked Leader that ordered them there in the first place.
It has everything to do with what is good and human about people.
Don't bother the grown ups here, Robert. Go enlist instead. Maybe you'll find some real friends and understand what WGG's talking about.
kelley b. |
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08.20.05 - 9:40 pm | #
I'd really like somebody to explain what's wrong with saying our soldiers are dying for israel. They, in fact, are, far more so than for this country.
mena
We will know we have vanquished the PNAC'ers and their AIPAC enablers when it becomes ok for a public figure to say that out loud.
flory, Business Manager |
08.20.05 - 9:41 pm | #
from Frank Rich's latest:
Another mother who has journeyed to Crawford, Celeste Zappala, wrote last Sunday in New York's Daily News of how her son, Sgt. Sherwood Baker, was also killed in April 2004 - in Baghdad, where he was providing security for the Iraq Survey Group, which was charged with looking for W.M.D.'s "well beyond the admission by David Kay that they didn't exist."
As Ms. Zappala noted with rage, her son's death came only a few weeks after Mr. Bush regaled the Radio and Television Correspondents' Association banquet in Washington with a scripted comedy routine featuring photos of him pretending to look for W.M.D.'s in the Oval Office. "We'd like to know if he still finds humor in the fabrications that justified the war that killed my son," Ms. Zappala wrote.
Robert better get busy if he plans to Swiftboat 'em all. So many grieving war Moms out there, so little time to smear them.
melior |
08.20.05 - 9:41 pm | #
Uhhhh, I don't know whether Sheehan re-enlisted or not, but I'm a bit suspicious of that claim, because to the best of my recollection, re-enlistment hasn't been a requirement to keep you in the forces for the past several years now. With all the stop-losses and extensions, it seems unlikely that anyone would be re-enlisting, because it's essentially being done for them, albeit without the signing bonus.
Jennifer |
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08.20.05 - 9:41 pm | #
a moronic fuckwit shitnozzle
Ooooo, that's good, may I use it in other blogs/group I visit?
ZuZu's Petals |
08.20.05 - 9:41 pm | #
Bush and Condi dress-up?
Tony Randall and Jack Lemmon in Some Like It Hot.
Terry C
It's funny how all of a sudden the standard of proof isn't high enough.
Libs point to Usenet and news articles all the time as "incontrovertible proof". When a conservative states a fact so obvious the blind and dead could see it, they won't be satisfied with anything other than a time machine and DNA samples.
Robert |
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08.20.05 - 9:42 pm | #
mena,
You are so right about Israel. Our uncritical support for some of the really, really bad policies they have persued has the entire Mid East up in arms. I'm married to a Jew and he and every other Jew I know was appaled by the illegal settlements and in-your-face style of government Israel has had for ages. Sharon is the worst of a bad lot.
bigvic |
08.20.05 - 9:42 pm | #
People will be able to select news and opinion sources they already agree with or that confirms their views.
Steve J.
Yeah, I read that too about people becoming their own information gatekeepers and the resulting bitter stratification which is what we're seeing in society now.
Incog |
08.20.05 - 9:42 pm | #
Because the implication is "Israel isn't worth dying for because they're a bunch of -- ".
...non-Americans?
The GOP didn't want us to protect the Somalis when Clinton was in charge (horrors, 18 Rangers died!), or Muslims in the former Yugo, and withdrew troops from Lebanon during Reagan's tenure, but now all of a sudden it's okay for American troops to die for a foreign power? This, after we already give almost $3,000,000,000 in military aid to Israel, who receives the most US foreign aid of any nation? So now we're supposed to spend $300,000,000,000 more and almost 2000 American lives?
You are a right bastard, Robert.
NTodd (aka Neo) |
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08.20.05 - 9:42 pm | #
If we're in Iraq fir the oil. It surely is a disaster.
If we're there for democracy, it again is surely a disaster.
All reasons for being there turn out to be either myth or plain fucked up.
Just what is the "noble cause"?
Theocracy is not what I had in mind when I did not protest the war. If I had been warned, I too would have been on the streets.
We should all, rebublican abd demicrat , be on the streets with great big question mark signs.
It's like we're not only not on the same page but we're not even reading the same book. I have absolutely no idea what they're even saying anymore.
Incog |
08.20.05 - 9:44 pm | #
a moronic fuckwit shitnozzle
==
I like it too, zuzu's petals. Now I'm all conflicted which is the better name for my boss, that, or Kaiser Soso. (from Eli)
I guess I don't really have to choose.
mena |
08.20.05 - 9:44 pm | #
This is the speech where Ms. Sheehan called George W. Bush "the biggest terrorist in the world".
And the problem with THAT is? I think she was spot on.
I'd like to ask her what she thought of Ms. Stewart's pal, Sheikh Rahman.
Let's talk about the Sheikhs that Bush holds hands with!
Terry C |
08.20.05 - 9:44 pm | #
after reading rich's article, something struck me about another milestone we seem to have reached. big-name columnists/opinion makers are fingering the beltway media as bearing some responsibility; rich, huffington, harold meyerson and michael wolff have all penned columns recently actually naming names. it's very satisfying to read.
it's also about damned time.
bkny |
08.20.05 - 9:45 pm | #
And criticizing Israel is no more "anti-Semitic" than criticizing Preznit Fuckwad is "anti-American."
Terry C
So I guess all the wingnuts running around criticizing Cuba are anti-Catholic.
flory, Business Manager |
08.20.05 - 9:45 pm | #
"This, after we already give almost $3,000,000,000 in military aid to Israel, who receives the most US foreign aid of any nation? So now we're supposed to spend $300,000,000,000 more and almost 2000 American lives?"
Let them fight their own battles.
Same shit with the first Gulf War. We're fighting to protect people who can more than afford to have their own military!
Terry C |
08.20.05 - 9:46 pm | #
żCapt. Kangaroo and Bunny Rabbit?
żDavey and Goliath?
żDonnie and Marie?
Harold and Maude?
Central Scrutinizer |
08.20.05 - 9:46 pm | #
NTodd, I'll give you time to make up your own reality. I'm sure the facts I've stated are inconvenient, but once you put the tin hat on, it will all flow nicely.
You just have to go back in time to March 2005, delete a Usenet post timestamped for that date, claim that Mr. Sheehan was hypnotized into re-enlisting, and somehow make Ms. Sheehan magically NOT show up at that rally in San Francisco.
I can't wait to see what you come up with. This will be quite enjoyable.
Robert |
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08.20.05 - 9:46 pm | #
Robert, I suspect, is a paid troll.
If you aren't, go fight for Halliburton in Iraq.
If you are, do the same. Let some other kid come home alive.
You know, the guy who bombed the World Trade Center in 1993. Ask him what HE thought about Israel.
You mean the guy who was successfully prosecuted under the Clinton administration?
And are you really suggesting that a woman giving a speech (for which you provide absolutely no transcript) at a rally for a lawyer who defended a convicted bomber is guilty of being anti-semitic? Given that Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon, I would suggest you are evil because you post here, and we sometimes talk about root causes of terrorism rather than bombing the shit out of innocent civilians, and that's objectively pro-terrorist.
NTodd (aka Neo) |
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08.20.05 - 9:47 pm | #
From the SF Chron:
A patriotic camp with a "God Bless Our President!" banner sprung up downtown Saturday, countering the anti-war demonstration started by a fallen soldier's mother two weeks ago near President Bush's ranch. ...
Note to recruiters -- a cluster of potential enlistees has been sighted near Crawford.
melior |
08.20.05 - 9:47 pm | #
So I guess all the wingnuts running around criticizing Cuba are anti-Catholic.
flory, Business Manager
Robert, that letter was posted by somebody named Tersch. There is no reply from Cindy, or anybody else for that matter. What is your standard of proof that this was, in fact, written by Cindy Sheehan.
Some freeper says it's so, and you believe them. For all you know, the person who 'found' that usenet post could have been the same person who wrote it.
test |
08.20.05 - 9:47 pm | #
uNSUPPORTED ASSERTION? YOU MEAN LIKE THE FRAUDULENT DOCS DAN RATHER TRIED TO PUSH OFF ON THE AMERICAN PUBLIC.
KKO -9:31 pm
in order to totally compromise an 'offensive thread', you gotta have a lot more stones than you'll ever have...
WoodyGuthriesGuitar |
08.20.05 - 9:47 pm | #
We will know we have vanquished the PNAC'ers and their AIPAC enablers when it becomes ok for a public figure to say that out loud.
and commit imediate commit immediate career sepiku? or when shares of the Hades Ice Cube Company go public?
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari |
08.20.05 - 9:48 pm | #
Wikipedia summarizes Sheehan nicely, including that email and its veracity or lack thereof.
In the end, though, harping back and forth about the messenger serves only to obscure.
Is there some notion that the PNAC and Israel aren't part of the Iraq equation (and Syria and Iran and so on)?
You'd be a damn fool if you did not understand these relationships.
Uncle Smokes |
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08.20.05 - 9:48 pm | #
Flory, bigvic - I just hope I live to see it happen.
I'd join in on the speculation about littleboots' and his african concubine's love thang, but I just know it involves humiliation of some sort, and I'm not up for nausea tonight.
mena |
08.20.05 - 9:49 pm | #
You know, the guy who bombed the World Trade Center in 1993. Ask him what HE thought about Israel.
You mean the guy who was successfully prosecuted under the Clinton administration?
Yeah, the one whose ass is in prison as I type this?
Let Israel fight their own battles.
Do you think Bush really cares about Israel when he's SO chummy with the Saudis?
Three quarters of the 9-11 hijackers WERE Saudis.
No Iraqis on those planes.
Terry C |
08.20.05 - 9:49 pm | #
Because the implication is "Israel isn't worth dying for because they're a bunch of -- ".
...non-Americans?
The GOP didn't want us to protect the Somalis when Clinton was in charge (horrors, 18 Rangers died!), or Muslims in the former Yugo, and withdrew troops from Lebanon during Reagan's tenure, but now all of a sudden it's okay for American troops to die for a foreign power? This, after we already give almost $3,000,000,000 in military aid to Israel, who receives the most US foreign aid of any nation? So now we're supposed to spend $300,000,000,000 more and almost 2000 American lives?
You are a right bastard, Robert.
NTodd (aka Neo)
Damn, NTodd, your posts are always so spot on, Man. I so love reading them. Now, admittedely your bare, naked ass with the no pants and all can be a bit disconcerting, but other than that, hear, hear, man!!
ZuZu's Petals |
08.20.05 - 9:49 pm | #
re israel: isn't the u.s. paying for the relocation of the settlers. i seem to recall lou dobbs in one of his nightly outrage segments reporting that the u.s. is footing the tab for the relocation and rebuilding costs.
bkny |
08.20.05 - 9:49 pm | #
I'm getting really depressed. I think I'll go read for a while before I sleep.
mer |
08.20.05 - 9:49 pm | #
Of course, he'd believe a freeper.
I wish he would go over to their site.
Terry C |
08.20.05 - 9:50 pm | #
a moronic fuckwit shitnozzle
Ooooo, that's good, may I use it in other blogs/group I visit?
ZuZu's Petals
With my blessing.
flory, Business Manager |
08.20.05 - 9:50 pm | #
NTodd, I'll give you time to make up your own reality. I'm sure the facts I've stated are inconvenient, but once you put the tin hat on, it will all flow nicely.
You just have to go back in time to March 2005, delete a Usenet post timestamped for that date, claim that Mr. Sheehan was hypnotized into re-enlisting, and somehow make Ms. Sheehan magically NOT show up at that rally in San Francisco.
I can't wait to see what you come up with. This will be quite enjoyable
Dude, you have yet again dodged: how is a USENET post from March, 2005, proof of what Cindy Sheehan said?
How does the fact that she showed up at a rally proove she is anti-semitic?
How does the fact (of which I still haven't seen proof) that Casey re-upped a year before he was deployed prove that he was "for" the war any more than my cousin who re-upped in the USMC to support his bros? Further, what does that have to do with Cindy's protest against the war that took away her eldest son?
Don't fucking put smiley faces on your posts, you lying fuckwad. It doesn't soften your lies or make me any more disposed to take what you say at face value.
NTodd (aka Neo) |
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08.20.05 - 9:51 pm | #
And who cares what Cindy said, or who she supported. Do you know, perhaps, her reasons?
She's a mother who lost a son in a war to secure Iraqi oil for Bush's business partners.
This nation was tricked into an unjust war for the personal profit of a private investment consortium known as the Carlyle Group.
Her grief is genuine, and the losses people are having for this criminal war are real.
Go enlist, Robert.
kelley b. |
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08.20.05 - 9:51 pm | #
Yipes. No offense, but what a stupid thread. Did the Robert-thing ever have an actual point? And has it been this contentious around here all day?
Silleigh |
08.20.05 - 9:51 pm | #
I'll give you time to make up your own reality
Who SAID irony was dead?
Terry C |
08.20.05 - 9:51 pm | #
What is your standard of proof that this was, in fact, written by Cindy Sheehan.
Hell, I could tell right off by the kerning that it was bogus. Hahahahaha.
bigvic |
08.20.05 - 9:52 pm | #
Here's a bit regarding Casey's motives:
"We have been so betrayed by this president," Cindy Sheehan said Wednesday. "He has lied to us. He has betrayed my family. He betrayed my son."
Sheehan is 47. She still can laugh, but she looks tired. She was given a script to read for her ad when the camera crew showed up at her home. She set it aside. Instead, tearful then as she was Wednesday, she spoke to the camera, describing her son's last mission.
"And the sergeant said, 'Sheehan, you don't have to go,' because my son was a mechanic," his mother says in the ad. "And Casey said, 'Where my chief goes, I go.' "
Army Spc. Casey Sheehan died in a Baghdad slum on April 4. The 24-year-old former Eagle Scout had been in Iraq about two weeks, serving with the 5th Cavalry Regiment of the 1st Cavalry Division.
Copyright 2004 McClatchy Newspapers, Inc. Sacramento Bee
September 30, 2004, Thursday METRO FINAL EDITION
Dude, you have yet again dodged: how is a USENET post from March, 2005, proof of what Cindy Sheehan said?
How does the fact that she showed up at a rally proove she is anti-semitic?
How does the fact (of which I still haven't seen proof) that Casey re-upped a year before he was deployed prove that he was "for" the war any more than my cousin who re-upped in the USMC to support his bros?
Walks like a duck. Quacks like a duck. Is a duck.
Or "you know who Cindy Sheehan is by the company she keeps".
Read the transcript. Now tell me that I'm lying.
Robert |
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08.20.05 - 9:53 pm | #
I guess Cindy Sheehan knowing somebody railroaded by the government as an object lesson means that she shoudn't want to know why her son died. Because Bush said so is all we're getting, really. They prove every day that they can't control the situation that they started, no matter how many times he calls himself "war president". So if Cindy Sheehan is mad that her son died for Israel, based on what she has learned from her own questions, shouldn't Preznit Cowboy Fuckwit the 3rd of Andover, Yale and Harvard be able to go on the teevee, and explain to all of us the noble cause for which so many thousands have died? But no, he drives past, and then goes back to the same old story that was debunked around the world, Saddam and 9/11, and he's not run out of town? Whew!
ronjazz |
08.20.05 - 9:53 pm | #
If you cannot accept your prized in person, a libidenous liberal lass of your choice may accept in your stead.
driftglass
Wow. I'm a winner.
But since I haven't been to Chicago since I was 7 and haven't the money to go there now unfortunately, I leave it to the contest organizer to name the appropriate libidinous liberal female to accept the prize on my behalf.
Toonscribe |
08.20.05 - 9:53 pm | #
NTodd, I refuse to address stupid trolls directly, but thank you for pointing out that Lynn Stewart is a defense lawyer, whose job was to defend her client.
Karin |
08.20.05 - 9:53 pm | #
I think I'll go masturbate for awhile.
This is all so incredibly pointless.
Later y'all.
Central Scrutinizer |
08.20.05 - 9:53 pm | #
BTW, I should clarify: we have historically given $2-3B A YEAR in military aid to Israel...
NTodd (aka Neo) |
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08.20.05 - 9:53 pm | #
You'd be a damn fool if you did not understand these relationships.
Or totally disingenuous.
Hypocrisy is something of a standard among wingnuttia.
kelley b. |
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08.20.05 - 9:54 pm | #
Her grief is genuine, and the losses people are having for this criminal war are real.
Go enlist, Robert.
kelley b. | Email | Homepage | 08.20.05 - 9:51 pm | #
Translation: "Since Cindy had a son who died in Iraq, this makes all of her motives automatically pure, and gives her a free pass."
Wrong. But nice try.
Robert |
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08.20.05 - 9:54 pm | #
It's like we're not only not on the same page but we're not even reading the same book. I have absolutely no idea what they're even saying anymore.
Incog
Trolls don't read.
They get their talking points from Rush, Hannity and the rest of those uber patriots.
Terry C |
08.20.05 - 9:54 pm | #
Since Cindy had a son who died in Iraq, this makes all of her motives automatically pure, and gives her a free pass."
He repeats the same shit over and over and over again!
Terry C |
08.20.05 - 9:55 pm | #
Note to recruiters -- a cluster of potential enlistees has been sighted near Crawford.
melior
Note to recruiters -- good luck with this crew.
flory, Business Manager |
08.20.05 - 9:55 pm | #
Central Scrutinizer,
Had a dog once. A clever dog, I trained it to eat liver sausage and fart "Librelss R bad" on command.
Thought I'd make a million, touring with that dog. "A rare beast, this," I thought, finally ready to pack up and hit the road to Branson. "A mongrel that can fart little syllables that sound like people-words."
Thent I discovered that internets, and that such critters are a dime a dozen.
And that you shouldn't feed 'em liver sausage if you don't want the room to fill up with muttfarts.
Still, I do miss that dog.
driftglass |
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08.20.05 - 9:56 pm | #
This is all so incredibly pointless.
==
Yes, it is. Remember to take off your pants!
mena |
08.20.05 - 9:56 pm | #
And now, I must go. But just remember - because an airplane flies over a caveman, and the caveman shakes his fist at it as the airplane flies off, does not imply there is a connection between the two.
Enjoy a nice swallow of Ms. Sheehan's own words. If they leave a bad taste in your mouth...well, too bad.
Although Atrios might have to force me to stop smiling at NTodd.
Robert |
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08.20.05 - 9:56 pm | #
Who SAID irony was dead?
Brawn-zee invaded and destroyed it.
Sorry...I ban myself for that pun.
I gotta go...Auf Wiedersehen, die Mondfledermaus!
Uncle Smokes |
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08.20.05 - 9:56 pm | #
Opposition to the ruthless Likud is not anti-semitism any more than opposition to the Bush crime syndicate is anti-Americanism.
kelley b. |
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08.20.05 - 9:56 pm | #
or when shares of the Hades Ice Cube Company go public?
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari
Did I say it was gonna happen soon?
(and I'm shorting those shares!! )
flory, Business Manager |
08.20.05 - 9:56 pm | #
Silleigh,
Word. It was only a silly (heh) thread after folks took off after the moron. Waste. Of. Thread.
bigvic |
08.20.05 - 9:56 pm | #
NTodd, I refuse to address stupid trolls directly, but thank you for pointing out that Lynn Stewart is a defense lawyer, whose job was to defend her client.
Karin
Well, the fact that she's a WOMAN has to piss the trolls off, too.
I mean, unless you're some clotty-headed bint parroting right wing crap, you should not have an opinion if you are female.
Terry C |
08.20.05 - 9:56 pm | #
Clean sheets, please!
Terry C |
08.20.05 - 9:57 pm | #
He has betrayed my family. He betrayed my son."
No matter what. THis is the escence of the argument we should be having. We have all been betrayed. THere was no rational for going in. THere has been no plan for the aftermath. THere is no plan for defeating the"insurgency". there is no plan for getting out.
IN all phases, this has been and continues to be nothing but a clusterfuck that has lacked true leadership. Chimpy betrayed the trust put to him by not providing real leadership.
Imagine if we had had no leadership in the big war. WHere would we be now? We face the same thing, according to the conservatards, now woth the lack of leadership.
Duncan commenting about conservatives banning liberals from commenting is the height of hypocrisy, seeing how quickly he pushes the ban button.
Robert | Email | Homepage | 08.20.05 - 8:54 pm
Um, given the above, shouldn't "Duncan" have banned Robert by now?
You're really an annoying asshole, rorschach. You know that?
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Hey Incog, I'm still awaiting your humble apology for this bit of rudeness.
rorschach |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 9:58 pm | #
Enjoy a nice swallow of Ms. Sheehan's own words
Go blow Ann Coulter and swallow, you lying piece of shit!
Terry C |
08.20.05 - 9:58 pm | #
Robert - at this juncture, I'm not sure which point you're trying to prove with the Sheehan speech transcript. I don't see anything about PNAC or dying for Israel in there. But I was struck by this passage, for which I thank you:
I take responsibility partly for my son’s death, too. I was raised in a country by a public school system that taught us that America was good, that America was just. America has been killing people, like my sister over here says, since we first stepped on this continent, we have been responsible for death and destruction. I passed on that bullshit to my son and my son enlisted. I’m going all over the country telling moms: “This country is not worth dying for. If we’re attacked, we would all go out. We’d all take whatever we had. I’d take my rolling pin and I’d beat the attackers over the head with it. But we were not attacked by Iraq. {applause} We might not even have been attacked by Osama bin Laden if {applause}. 9/11 was their Pearl Harbor to get their neo-con agenda through and, if I would have known that before my son was killed, I would have taken him to Canada. I would never have let him go and try and defend this morally repugnant system we have. The people are good, the system is morally repugnant. {applause}
Please – teach your babies, teach your babies better than I taught my babies. When Congress gave George Bush the right to go to war, they abrogated their constitutional responsibilities and they basically made our constitution null and void. We have no checks and balances in this country. We have no recourse...
NTodd (aka Neo) |
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08.20.05 - 9:58 pm | #
Just about all of it. When Cindy is confronted with the "My boy died for Israel!" speech, she looks like one of those wild-eyed ANSWER lefties. Which, she is.
Robert
LMAO - you just got taken again by a Noise Machine lie.
Steve J. |
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08.20.05 - 9:59 pm | #
Let's talk about something else, shall we? Silleigh, are you coming to eschacon?
mena |
08.20.05 - 9:59 pm | #
Translation: "Since Cindy had a son who died in Iraq, this makes all of her motives automatically pure, and gives her a free pass."
when your son/daughter is dead, come talk, shitheel...
Note to recruiters -- a cluster of potential enlistees has been sighted near Crawford
Watch them scatter when the recruiters show up.
____league |
08.20.05 - 9:59 pm | #
Translation: "Since Cindy had a son who died in Iraq, this makes all of her motives automatically pure, and gives her a free pass."
Of course. The only people whose motives are automatically pure, and who deserve a free pass, are all on the Right!
On the one hand, it would be good if Robert put his money where his mouth is by shipping out to Iraq. On the other hand, his stupidity - and the stupidity of his chickenhawk brethren - could end up getting good people killed. It's better if they stay stateside, where the most dangerous thing they handle is their own dung.
Phila |
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08.20.05 - 9:59 pm | #
But just remember - because an airplane flies over a caveman, and the caveman shakes his fist at it as the airplane flies off, does not imply there is a connection between the two.
One area I could focus on is a local hot-button issue: the illegal alien invasion, particularly in Northern Virginia. The Herndon Town Council just approved a “day labor” center for illegal aliens, who should be sitting in deportation hearings instead of a taxpayer-supported hangout waiting for lawbreaking employers to pick them up. What does the federal government have to say about this issue? Where are the immigration enforcement agents in all this mess?
you go girl! potential terrorists day laborers! egads. gadzooks.
fuck the war and fuck Chimpy and his minions, all the way down to shills like robert and lashawn
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari |
08.20.05 - 10:02 pm | #
What the hell is an "answer lefty"?
What a fucktard. Can we ban him?
Terry C |
08.20.05 - 10:02 pm | #
casey was a marine. Semper Fi.
No, he was an Army Specialist.
oops, well, still band of brothers duty, honor, country. what ever. the point is whatever his belief or motivation, it does not give the CiC the right to send young men (and some not so young) into a war to die for what has been proven to be a lie. even had there been WMD the inspectors were making progress and iraq has not been a direct threat to the United States, probably ever, well, until now.
but naturally i accept the correction, because i'm not a trollish asshole.
charley |
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08.20.05 - 10:02 pm | #
Yipes. No offense, but what a stupid thread. Did the Robert-thing ever have an actual point? And has it been this contentious around here all day?
Silleigh
The day has actually been relatively troll free.
Robert didn't show up til NTodd sneakily forced us all to go visit his blog.
Its all NTodd's fault.
flory, Business Manager |
08.20.05 - 10:02 pm | #
re israel: isn't the u.s. paying for the relocation of the settlers.
We paid for their construction in the first place. Now have to pay for the demolition and rubble removal, too. In fact, we pay for all the fortress-like colonies. [They like to use "settlement" because it's more p.c. to the Americans]. But it ain't over. We have to pay for Palestinian reconstruction, too.
Nűr al-Cubicle |
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08.20.05 - 10:02 pm | #
Waste. Of. Thread.
That's kinda what I was thinking. Did the Rob-bot say anything that hasn't already been said here a gazillion times? We don't often get those 3-threads-in-5 minutes blessings, and could be stuck with this thread for awhile. And you have to type around all the piles of troll dung at this point.
Not jumping on anyone, mind you. I am wondering, though, if it's been particularly gripy 'round here today (I didn't even get to do coffee here this morning, waah!). It was plenty aggrafretted around here yesterday.
Silleigh |
08.20.05 - 10:02 pm | #
I mean, unless you're some clotty-headed bint parroting right wing crap, you should not have an opinion if you are female.
Well, really, Terry C, you put it perfectly backwards. I mean, really and truly. How much better off would the entire society be if Malkin and Coulter just shut up. The thing that amazes me is that it seems they actually write some of their own original stuff, always lowering the bar. They're more than parrots, their sociopathic.
I think it's quite perfect that Cindy Sheehan is out leader and hero. She's a real person, not a fucking fake cowboy richie-rich installed corrupt CEO. Anyway, she's my hero.
ronjazz |
08.20.05 - 10:02 pm | #
One area I could focus on is a local hot-button issue: the illegal alien invasion, particularly in Northern Virginia. The Herndon Town Council just approved a “day labor” center for illegal aliens, who should be sitting in deportation hearings instead of a taxpayer-supported hangout waiting for lawbreaking employers to pick them up. What does the federal government have to say about this issue? Where are the immigration enforcement agents in all this mess?
Oh, bitch - shut up!
Terry C |
08.20.05 - 10:03 pm | #
hey nur, what up? how are things in the cubicle?
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari |
08.20.05 - 10:03 pm | #
I think it's quite perfect that Cindy Sheehan is out leader and hero. She's a real person, not a fucking fake cowboy richie-rich installed corrupt CEO. Anyway, she's my hero.
ronjazz
Late to the party and have not read upthread, but it irritate sthe fool out of me to have right-wing bloggers and commenters w/their silk panties all in a twist about civility.
It makes me laugh out loud, actually.
Give me a fucking break: the last 3 elections, okay? Civility?
You may already have seen it but Billmon has a great roundup of the Franklin/AIPAC scandal.
Steve J. |
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08.20.05 - 10:05 pm | #
But just remember - because an airplane flies over a caveman, and the caveman shakes his fist at it as the airplane flies off, does not imply there is a connection between the two.
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test | 08.20.05 - 10:00 pm | #
Hi everybody am I late?
SWR |
08.20.05 - 10:06 pm | #
Totally objective facts, of course
JeffCO
Fucking Horowitz...yet another example of the evils of Stalinism.
Phila |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 10:06 pm | #
Not content to settle bringing just the US back into the 1400's, Focus on the Family is also working on New Zealand:
Creationism in classroom row
21 August 2005
By DAVE COURTNEY
A Christian lobby group has sent 500 kits about intelligent design - the idea that a higher being created life - to NZ state schools, sparking debate about whether schools should teach creationism.
The Focus on the Family group says Intelligent Design is a quality teaching resource aimed at encouraging healthy debate. But a critic says the group is trying to introduce the Bible's teachings by stealth into education.
"It is alarming. People are presenting it as another valid theory . . . it is not scientifically based, it is just a theory they formed on their religious beliefs," said NZ Association of Rationalists and Humanists secretary Paul Litterick.
About 500 schools were sent the DVD and workbook resource. Focus on the Family director Wayne Mulqueen said it did not want "to set the world on fire". "We do not want to push the whole creationist debate. We are doing it in a low-key way, putting the stuff out there for use. Schools may choose to bin it . . . we just want to say there is another theory."
In the Sunday Star-Times' Great Morality Debate, three out of four respondents said they would be happy with religious instruction in schools.
Burnside High principal Ron Noordijk said it had received the intelligent design kit. Its science head had not evaluated it so no decision had been made on its usefulness. Pakuranga College principal Bali Haque knew nothing of the kit, and said it would be kept in the library if it had arrived. "It has no place in the classroom."
Science Educators association president Bev Cooper said the intent of science and biology curricula was to present information supported by science. "(Intelligent design) is not science and therefore has no place in the compulsory school curriculum."
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
08.20.05 - 10:06 pm | #
Ah. I feel caught up on the day now. NTodd, this is YOUR fault, and we shall be confiscating your pantses in retribution.
Mena, not gonna make it to Eschacon. I would kill to, but it's just not in the ol' cards this year. Hoping for next year, though!
Silleigh |
08.20.05 - 10:06 pm | #
Late to the party, but could
somebody please provide the
context for this:
israel is a malignancy on earth. why should palestinians pay for the sins of nazi
germany?
gary in fl | 08.20.05 - 10:00 pm | #
The Herndon Town Council just approved a “day labor” center for illegal aliens, who should be sitting in deportation hearings instead of a taxpayer-supported hangout waiting for lawbreaking employers to pick them up.
Whattya wanna bet if Ms Lashawn has any work done on her house, she won't be so concerned over the immigration status of the laborers?
Keerist -- there wouldn't be ANY fuckin' construction done in the Bay Area without the day labor pickup spots.
flory, Business Manager |
08.20.05 - 10:07 pm | #
But just remember - because an airplane flies over a caveman, and the caveman shakes his fist at it as the airplane flies off, does not imply there is a connection between the two.
This gives new meaning to those debates we used to have in my college dorm.
Could one Vietnam era platoon beat a whole Roman legion?
Of course they could (if they had air cover).
SWR |
08.20.05 - 10:07 pm | #
Once again, I have nothing of value to add, but howdy moonbats! I'm back in New Vatican City after a blogging-related soujourn in paradise, aka San Francisco. You can draw from that what you want.
smitty werbenmanjensen |
08.20.05 - 10:07 pm | #
Oh steve, really, you don't want to know.
mena |
08.20.05 - 10:07 pm | #
To clear the foul smell that Robert has left here, let me tell you what I'm watching right now.
There must be thousands of swallows darting and wheeling around my house and the hill it sits on. I'd take a picture of what they are doing, but am afraid that the swallows might leave. I think they are eating some late summer flying insects, and I don't want them to stop.
Doug, |
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08.20.05 - 10:07 pm | #
Since Cindy had a son who died in Iraq, this makes all of her motives automatically pure, and gives her a free pass.
If the qualification for having an opinion about the Iraq disaster is having pure motives then every single member of the Republican party is disqualified from having an opinion about it. Cheney and the others looting the country for their companies certainly don't have pure motives.
And what are the motives of the trolls here? Money. That's all it ever comes down to with Republicans.
EPT |
08.20.05 - 10:08 pm | #
The War in IraQ IS THE MOST NOBLE AND JUST WAR SINCE THE CIVIL WAR.
KKO | 08.20.05 - 9:30 pm
My friends, we have a solid nominee for fucktard du jour.
What a dipshit.
Gary Frazier |
08.20.05 - 10:08 pm | #
I don't know, but I'm not touching it with a ten foot pole.
Karin |
08.20.05 - 10:10 pm | #
"It is alarming. People are presenting it as another valid theory . . . it is not scientifically based, it is just a theory they formed on their religious beliefs," said NZ Association of Rationalists and Humanists secretary Paul Litterick.
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Thought exercise: try (hard) to imagine an american school-board member from ANYWHERE making this statement.
mena |
08.20.05 - 10:10 pm | #
We paid for their construction in the first place. Now have to pay for the demolition and rubble removal, too. In fact, we pay for all the fortress-like colonies. [They like to use "settlement" because it's more p.c. to the Americans]. But it ain't over. We have to pay for Palestinian reconstruction, too.
I'm sorry, what does this have to do with god, guns, and abortion?
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari |
08.20.05 - 10:10 pm | #
Not jumping on anyone, mind you. I am wondering, though, if it's been particularly gripy 'round here today
Not when I've been here today. I SOOOOOO wish we'd avoid the temptation of messing with these jerks. Their stupid heads are hard wired to spout wingnuttery and slam the door on truth and reality. So what's the point?
bigvic |
08.20.05 - 10:10 pm | #
"to set the world on fire". "We do not want to push the whole creationist debate. We are doing it in a low-key way, putting the stuff out there for use. Schools may choose to bin it . . . we just want to say there is another theory."
These are the kind of people that need to be burned at the stake.
Everything they say is exactly opposite to what they want.
When Jimmy Stewart tails Kim Novak
to the boarding house, he goes up
to the room and she's mysteriously
not there.
It's never explained how she pulled
that off.
It's a great spooky scene, but it's
a cheat.
steve simels |
08.20.05 - 10:11 pm | #
Not content to settle bringing just the US back into the 1400's, Focus on the Family is also working on New Zealand:
Ah, but New Zealand has more sense than the US, as evidenced here.
rorschach |
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08.20.05 - 10:11 pm | #
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Islam will be "the main source" of Iraq's law and parliament will observe religious principles, negotiators said on Saturday after what some called a major turn in talks on the constitution and a shift in the U.S. position. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/
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sevenless |
08.20.05 - 10:12 pm | #
Next week things are going to be ugly in Iraq. Uglier.
Publisher & Editor-in-Chief
DiscovertheNetworks.org
David Horowitz
JeffCO
Somehow it doesn't surprise me that the tens of David Horowitz' college student followers would be home blog trolling on a Saturday night.
You get the feeling that you've got to be even more pitiful to be a Horowitz cultist than to be a Larouche cultist?
EPT |
08.20.05 - 10:12 pm | #
I'm back in New Vatican City after a blogging-related soujourn in paradise, aka San Francisco. You can draw from that what you want.
smitty werbenmanjensen
"It is alarming. People are presenting it as another valid theory . . . it is not scientifically based, it is just a theory they formed on their religious beliefs," said NZ Association of Rationalists and Humanists secretary Paul Litterick.
At least some of the Kansas board members seem to have a sense of humor about this stuff. I went back to the Flying Spaghetti Monster page today to show my kids, and read through some of the response E-mails they got from board members. Good stuff. ::rummages for page:: And some of the FSM Cafepress stuff is the shit -- I'd do a Kansas Museum of Science mug myself.
Silleigh |
08.20.05 - 10:13 pm | #
Thought exercise: try (hard) to imagine an american school-board member from ANYWHERE making this statement.
mena
Another Hitchcock movie with Jimmy Stewart in a wheelchair.
Karin |
08.20.05 - 10:14 pm | #
About those illegal day laborers: Tancredo has already indicated that he intends to make that a litmus test in the GOP 2008 primaries, so I think we can see immigration as a flash point for the 2006 elections as well.
Diane |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 10:14 pm | #
RIP Barbara Bel Geddes.
This week, actually.
steve simels |
08.20.05 - 10:15 pm | #
Preview is for wimps...ooops!
Alright, Israel. Does gary have a point? Should Palestinians be paying for Nazi sins? Besides which, aren't humans, by definition, s'posed to work shit OUT?
And has the US, in being left on top of the pile, inevitably devolve, as some theories of democracy have researched, after 200 years or so?
ronjazz |
08.20.05 - 10:15 pm | #
You get the feeling that you've got to be even more pitiful to be a Horowitz cultist than to be a Larouche cultist?
EPT
At least the LaRouche people know that Bush is full of shit.
Phila |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 10:16 pm | #
There's a Flying Spaghetti Monster
web page?
Holy shit....I gotta go look at it.
steve simels |
08.20.05 - 10:17 pm | #
My LexisNexis search of the past two years for both "Cindy Sheehan" and "Lynne Stewart" in major newspapers found exactly two references, both from this week, one by a rightwing columnist in the Sydney Daily Telegraph, and the other in an editorial in the NY Daily News, both accusing her of anti-Semitism with no evidence.
IOW, zero contemporaneous news accounts. Zero current news accounts for that matter. Would that our trolls could understand the difference between unattributed transcripts posted on rightwing hate sites and professional news organizations.
Hell, I'd settle for their understanding the difference between news and opinion.
JeffCO |
08.20.05 - 10:17 pm | #
Between this idiot and that woman named Ann Althouse, I've had enough Righty crapola for one day. Ergo, some day late catcommenting! Warmed over from Wednesday by poplar demand; Fruney sez if I push her offa the mousepad ONE MORE TIME...
Okay, she's really just yawning, but, I mean, how funny is that?
OK, then.
(With South Knox Bubba gone, somebody has to say that every oncet in a while. Guess I'm it).
Doozer (Obtuse Caboose mode) |
08.20.05 - 10:17 pm | #
RIP Barbara Bel Geddes.
This week, actually.
steve simels
Phila |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 10:17 pm | #
"Thought exercise: try (hard) to imagine an american school-board member from ANYWHERE making this statement."
Here. Hamilton fucking Montana. The IDdesign fight happened here, in the May 2004 school board election, in Hamilton and Darby Montana, both in Ravalli County.
The ID people lost this time at least
Doug, |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 10:17 pm | #
Sorry, I meant to use English.
ronjazz |
08.20.05 - 10:17 pm | #
OK Flory, you got me. Maybe Berkeley. There are a few other enclaves around the country too, I suppose. Still, even Berkeley would take heat for it. That was my point.
mena |
08.20.05 - 10:18 pm | #
stevej
read that Billmon post the other day, mentioned it yesterday and got no response. (it was ina troll infested thread, it was late, I was feeling Ibrahim's joy, etc...)
billmon's take on the sideshow character of the whole affair seems apt, and I was joking about it the other day...
"preposterous"
"absurd"
yes, this USGO2 is a quite upstanding, and fine fellow...better still is usgo1, whoever he or she might be..
I don't really have th chops to pull off the fake Gilbert and Sullivan version, and Billmon did it pretty well.
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari |
08.20.05 - 10:18 pm | #
Unlike the Horowitz cultists, I am not at home blogging. I am in my hotel room blogging.
Sallyh |
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08.20.05 - 10:18 pm | #
Alright, Israel. Does gary have a point? Should Palestinians be paying for Nazi sins? Besides which, aren't humans, by definition, s'posed to work shit OUT?
Speaking of this conflict, The Atlantic has been running a really good series of articles on it from every possible angle. It's worth picking up the last few months and reading them.
SWR |
08.20.05 - 10:19 pm | #
God, I fucking hate Haloscan. I was trying to praise Barbara Bel Geddes for her performance in Ophuls' Caught, but the post got eaten...
Phila |
Homepage |
08.20.05 - 10:19 pm | #
We paid for their construction in the first place. Now have to pay for the demolition and rubble removal, too. In fact, we pay for all the fortress-like colonies.
That is so fucked up. Why aren't the wingers screaming about wasting HARD earned taxpayer dollars for that? Oh yeah, End Times. Hoo, boy!
bigvic |
08.20.05 - 10:19 pm | #
Steve: Go to http://www.venganza.org .
The letter is KILLER. Especially the last sentence.
Silleigh |
08.20.05 - 10:20 pm | #
Robert, clocking out a couple minutes early, aren't you?
Wonder who the 10:00 troll is going to be?
They have to update their files on all of us between shifts.
Since Congress outlawed TIA, Negroponte has to subcontract to DynCorp/ Computer Sciences Corporation out of his black budget to keep up on us and the 66.6% of the American people who'd like to see Bush and Cheney in the slammer.
kelley b. |
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08.20.05 - 10:20 pm | #
Militias Wresting Control Across Iraq's North and South
Residents Tell of Growing Climate of Fear
Anthony Shadid and Steve Fainaru
Washington Post Foreign Service
Saturday, August 20, 2005; 7:00 PM
BASRA, Iraq -- Shiite and Kurdish militias, often operating as part of Iraqi government security forces, have carried out a wave of abductions, assassinations and other acts of intimidation, consolidating their control over territory across northern and southern Iraq and deepening the country's divide along ethnic and sectarian lines, according to political leaders, families of the victims, human rights activists and Iraqi officials.
While Iraqi representatives wrangle over the drafting of a constitution in Baghdad, forces represented by the militias and the Shiite and Kurdish parties that control them are creating their own institutions of authority, unaccountable to elected governments, the activists and officials said. In Basra in the south, dominated by the Shiites, and Mosul in the north, ruled by the Kurds, as well as cities and villages around them, many residents say they are powerless before the growing sway of the militias, which instill a climate of fear that many see as redolent of the era of former president Saddam Hussein.
The parties and their armed wings are sometimes operating independently, and other times as part of Iraqi army and police units trained and equipped by the United States and Britain and controlled by the central government. Their growing authority has enabled them to seize territory, confront their perceived enemies and provide patronage to their followers. Their rise has come because of a power vacuum in Baghdad and their own success in the January elections.
Since the formation of a government this spring, Basra, Iraq's second-largest city, has witnessed dozens of assassinations, claiming members of the former ruling Baath Party, Sunni political leaders and officials of competing Shiite parties. Many have been carried out by uniformed men in police vehicles, according to political leaders and families of the victims, with some of the bullet-riddled bodies dumped at night in a trash-strewn parcel known as The Lot. The province's governor said in an interview that Shiite militias have penetrated the police force; an Iraqi official estimated that as many as 90 percent of officers were loyal to religious parties.
Across northern Iraq, Kurdish parties have employed a previously undisclosed network of at least five detention facilities to incarcerate hundreds of Sunni Arabs, Turkmens and other minorities abducted and secretly transferred from Mosul, Iraq's third-largest city, and from territories stretching to the Iranian border, according to political leaders and detainees' families. Nominally under the authority of the U.S.-backed Iraqi army, the militias have beaten up and threatened government officials and political leaders deemed to be working against Kurdish interests; one bloodied official was paraded through a town in a pickup truck, witnesses said.
"I don't see any difference between Saddam and the way the Kurds are running things here," said Nahrain Toma, who heads a human rights organization, Betnahrain, with offices in northern Iraq and has faced several death threats.
etc.
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Behold the fruit of President AWOL's foreign policy, the greatest strategic blunder in US history. How can Boosh supporters even show their faces in public?
QuentinCompson |
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08.20.05 - 10:20 pm | #
SWR, I'll look into the Atlantic. Thanx.
ronjazz |
08.20.05 - 10:20 pm | #
My, what big teeth Fruney has.
Karin |
08.20.05 - 10:21 pm | #
But just remember - because an airplane flies over a caveman, and the caveman shakes his fist at it as the airplane flies off, does not imply there is a connection between the two.
Dios mio! that ees one culo-mamiento stupeed trollita, no?
Ay trollita jour pobrecito excuse for a zen koan, she ees no worrrthy of much reply, eh?
But steel, I weel geeve joo a how-joo-say "heent"...
Of course theirrr ees a connection between the two, just not a how-joo-say "causative" one.
Espíritu Santo de los Gatos, save us from maldito chingadero apestoso estupido idiota trollitas.
I can't effing believe it. We get free HBO in our room but NO Scifi Channel!
It's Saturday night! What's wrong with these people?
Sallyh |
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08.20.05 - 10:22 pm | #
SWR, I'll look into the Atlantic. Thanx.
ronjazz | Email | 08.20.05 - 10:20 pm | #
This months by David Samuels. I can't figure out if it's a right wing or a left wing article. That to me means its pretty good. It's certainly anti Arafat but it also goes into details about how the Israelis actually helped him launder his stolen money.
SWR |
08.20.05 - 10:22 pm | #
I got to see Kim Novak in person a couple years ago - she was receiving an award and presented a beautifully crisp print of Vertigo. Still a gorgeous woman - and IIRC, she has some big breasts [/Seinfeld].
JeffCO |
08.20.05 - 10:22 pm | #
What is the sound of one troll wanking?
smitty werbenmanjensen |
08.20.05 - 10:22 pm | #
I have GOT to learn some Spanish, dammit.
Silleigh |
08.20.05 - 10:23 pm | #
Could one Vietnam era platoon beat a whole Roman legion?
I change my vote.
Harry Turtledove for Sect'y of State.
He'll get the job done...a hundred years before the job stars!
driftglass |
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08.20.05 - 10:23 pm | #
Buckeye -
The Raelians are also ID proponents. If you register at your website (I think it is Rael.org) they will send you an ebook.
I consider them as credible as Dobson.
Maybe we should encourage Bush abd FRrist to include the Raelian version of ID in our science classrooms.
Damned at Random |
08.20.05 - 10:24 pm | #
NTodd--how're all the kids?
Has Stef, against her better judgment, left you alone with them?
Sallyh |
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08.20.05 - 10:24 pm | #
Doozer - I'd just go get myself another mouse pad and let the cat keep hers.
mena |
08.20.05 - 10:24 pm | #
Unlike the Horowitz cultists, I am not at home blogging. I am in my hotel room blogging.
Sallyh
Hope you are on a pleasure, not bidness trip. Did airport *security* treat your laptop like a time bomb? I get so damned sick of the stupid hoops they make us jump through that are pointless.
bigvic |
08.20.05 - 10:24 pm | #
In a weird way, I like Bush on vacation. I don't have to see his stupid mug saying something inane as much.
trifecta |
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08.20.05 - 10:24 pm | #
"It's Saturday night! What's wrong with these people?"
They think their target market "business people" don't like or watch SciFi.
Doug, |
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08.20.05 - 10:25 pm | #
Smitty--the sound of one troll wanking:
"Oh my God my God! You're the best you're the best you're the best yes yes YES!"
Sallyh |
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08.20.05 - 10:25 pm | #
Silleigh -
Two indespensible phrases are :
Uno cervesa, por favor
and, inevitably - Banos?
Damned at Random |
08.20.05 - 10:25 pm | #
QuentinCompson, that's really awful. It's bad enough they try to defend his motives and his lies, but for anyone to think for a second that he's run the war in any competent way is very sad. I really think that only I, personally, could do worse. But, recognizing my limitations, I wasn't born into a Nazi-funding anti-American WASP crime family to be accidental president. Damn, he will go down as the worst so far, I bet. Even Lincoln's getting outed. The party of Lincoln, indeed.
ronjazz |
08.20.05 - 10:26 pm | #
bigvic--not only did they treat my laptop as if it were an explosive device, they felt my Birkenstocks were a threat to national security.
Sallyh |
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08.20.05 - 10:26 pm | #
When Jimmy Stewart tails Kim Novak
to the boarding house, he goes up
to the room and she's mysteriously
not there.
Vertigo wouldn't be half as good
as it is without the music
by Bernie Herrmann.
Hitchcock and Herrmann -- two
geniuses for the price of one!
steve simels |
08.20.05 - 10:26 pm | #
El Gato - don't laugh too hard. Your tiny little lungs might collapse, and I'm not there to give you pred like I did for our dear departed Sunshine.
SWR - One would think a SQUAD could defeat a Roman legion, provide their M-16s aren't limited to three-round bursts.
NTodd |
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08.20.05 - 10:27 pm | #
Thanks, silleigh, I needed that laugh. I have now decided to convert to Pastafarianism.
Karin |
08.20.05 - 10:27 pm | #
Nite folks.I want to dream of Bush & the pretzel part II.
trifecta |
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08.20.05 - 10:27 pm | #
I can't effing believe it. We get free HBO in our room but NO Scifi Channel!
It's Saturday night! What's wrong with these people?
Sallyh
Oh, no!
So much for the perfect vacation. Still, try to enjoy yourself.
BTW, you were missed earlier when someone asked for an opinion on a statistics text.
Diane |
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08.20.05 - 10:28 pm | #
NTodd--re your post:
I suspect we may be seeing a lot of the country behaving a la Lady Macbeth soon.
Sallyh |
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08.20.05 - 10:28 pm | #
Harry Turtledove for Sect'y of State.
Maybe his next alternate military history will be one where Iraq was a credible to military threat to someone and the US invasion was carried out in a competent manner.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
08.20.05 - 10:29 pm | #
SWR - One would think a SQUAD could defeat a Roman legion, provide their M-16s aren't limited to three-round bursts.
Wouldn't a Roman legion be able to mob the squad (or platoon) before they could gun down enough of them.
Take the number of M16s they'd be using and calculate the number of shots they could fire and their maximum range against the number of legionaires who could rush the position before they could kill the entire legion.
SWR |
08.20.05 - 10:29 pm | #
Diane--anyone have the the title or author?
I had dinner with the Good Relatives, which is to say, my husband's. Very nice. We had a pleasant afternoon as well.
Sallyh |
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08.20.05 - 10:29 pm | #
bigvic--not only did they treat my laptop as if it were an explosive device, they felt my Birkenstocks were a threat to national security.
Sallyh
==
I haven't been on a plane since well before 9-11, and you're not helping me to look forward to it.
mena |
08.20.05 - 10:30 pm | #
Sallyh,
It was early this afternoon, and I don't have the energy to go hunting. The poster said it was published in 1920.
Spinoza (I think) suggested he go for a more current textbook because some interesting theories have emerged since then.
Diane |
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08.20.05 - 10:32 pm | #
Harry Turtledove for Sect'y of State.
No! He'll give AK-47s to Johnny Reb!
NTodd--how're all the kids?
Has Stef, against her better judgment, left you alone with them?
Kids are good. It's been rainy, so we've mostly been inside. Cairo and I have had some good games of tug with myriad depleted hedgehogs, Saff has been allowed space to sleep, and Sam has napped most of the day. Cairo and I saw him out by the bog just a little while ago, so we know he's having fun hunting. Here he is stretching before his workout regimen.
And yes, Stef has left me in charge. Fortunately I have until 10pm tomorrow to clean up after them...erm, myself.
NTodd |
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08.20.05 - 10:32 pm | #
Ror, those billboards are priceless. Hopefully some will still be up in April next year, I'd like to see them in person.
I don't think that ID is going to fly in NZ, at least not with most of the population. I get the impression that the general NZ is a little more sane. They may have their idiots, but they're not quite in the same league as our idiots. I don't think Helen Clark is going to be supporting ID. Or even Winston Peters.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
08.20.05 - 10:33 pm | #
Vertigo wouldn't be half as good
as it is without the music
by Bernie Herrmann.
And "Vertigo" is probably his best score.
Though I was watching one of the Harryhausen movies he scored the other day, and could have sworn he was recycling themes from "North by Northwest."
Mena--it largely depends on what airport you're at. LAX is notoriously awful.
Sallyh |
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08.20.05 - 10:35 pm | #
Irrelevant update: the boy is inside now.
NTodd |
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08.20.05 - 10:36 pm | #
QuentinCompson --
Well, what did we expect? I mean, the basic social structure of Iraq has beent he same for the last 4,500 years - tribes & clans.
Steve J. |
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08.20.05 - 10:36 pm | #
I don't want to set the world on fire. I just want to start
A flame in your heart.
Sarah Deere |
08.20.05 - 10:39 pm | #
Buckeye--Also, there is a transexual ex-prostitute in NZ's Parliament.
That could NEVER happen here.
rorschach |
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08.20.05 - 10:40 pm | #
The Old Man From Scene 24,
Oh I'm hoping he nips this in the bud waaay before that. Perhaps something involving young Prescott Bush and a debilitating social disease?
NTodd,
The rebs already have AK's. Thats part of the problem
driftglass |
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08.20.05 - 10:43 pm | #
And speaking of Crapola, "Lefty crapola" this time, who is this Michael Wolff dude that was on Democracy Now Thursday? He was on along with Murray Waas, and was one of the rudest guests I think I've ever heard on a talk show. I never heard of him before, and his article was about how the media is a willing coconspirator re: Plame, as in they had the story, and sat on it, which doesn't sound all that Rightwing, and Waas said he had great respect for Wolff (at which Wolff said "you don't have to do that", in the same tone he used for "I don't have patience for this" and "I'm not having this conversation", so what is this guy, some sort of Militant Centrist?
Doozer (Obtuse Caboose mode) |
08.20.05 - 10:46 pm | #
Visit Redstate.org. Every time someone makes a point about Cindy Sheehan's
history
Who give a flying fuck about her history, for christsakes? God. The woman lost her son. Her first born. And in the most horrific way one can imagine. Are you a parent? Do you remember when your son or daughter were little, and they would fall down, and cry and cry because they skinned their knee, but you could make it all better, just by putting a bandaid on it, kissing it, and saying "all better"? Remember when they would have nightmares, and would wake crying and terrified, but you could make it all better just by being there? Cindy didn't get to be there with Casey when he died. I wonder if she is tortured with that thought. I know if it were me, I would hope against hope that his death was so quick and so sudden, that he had no chance to think about it. No chance to be afraid. And the pain of just wondering if he did live just a bit longer....was he afraid? was he crying? was he wanting his mom and dad? was he wanting to go home? And mom couldn't be there to make it all better. And you heartless fuckers want to bring up her "history"? Fuck You. The only history that matters for her, is that she was his mom; and she had to bury him. And she is mad. And she is devasted. And she wants an answer. She wants to know that this "man" didn't invade Iraq with a half-assed plan that was sure to lead to the death of her son and the deaths of all those other sons and daughters who have nobly served
this COUNTRY--not this President and not your goddamed GOP, they served this Country. And I think all those parents, whether they support the little spoiled baby bush or not, all those parents deserve to know: did you even HAVE a plan? a real reason to invade? and did you even have an exit strategy? or was it always about occupation?
maryc |
08.20.05 - 10:51 pm | #
Espíritu Santo de los Gatos, save us from maldito chingadero apestoso estupido idiota trollitas.
mena; No workie. She wants mine. I have three idennical ones, and i offered her her choice of the other two. Nope. She wants the one I'm using, and that's that.
Doozer (Obtuse Caboose mode) |
08.20.05 - 10:57 pm | #
LaShawn? Is that a Mormon name?
Zelph |
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08.20.05 - 11:30 pm | #
Atriots pissing and moaning about intolerance of dissenting opinions?
Oh, my. irony like this doesn't happen every day.
Oh, wait. Yes it does, on Eschaton.
I guess than "banned by webmaster, your comment will not be added" banner at the top of my haloscan window is some kind of mistake, huh? I don't really have to link through another server?
Hello! My Name is...The Needle |
08.21.05 - 12:12 am | #
I was getting that message because of my high speed web acclerator. Turn it off and the message will go away.
sekmet |
08.21.05 - 12:17 am | #
*imitation of right-wing bloggers*
Cluck cluck cluck!
The Truffle |
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08.21.05 - 1:18 am | #
Who is LaShawn's baby's daddy?
Pocket Rocket |
08.21.05 - 1:57 am | #
robert is a sad symptom of a people taught disinformation, attention mongering based on thinly veiled hatred, define an "other" & attack it (negatively grounded social bonding, what the nazi's used the jews for within there own beleif system) & not to mention it, just a fucking idiot who can't even solidly source his twisted fabrications.
nice to see actual people who've escaped the collective lobotomy so prevalent in these parts...
zephyr |
08.21.05 - 2:05 am | #
"banned by webmaster"
ban happy atrios is the sorriest and thinnest-skinned of all.
"polite diverging opinions won't get you banned here. "
who cares about politeness? not you. that's the point, fucker. nothing more crybaby-ish (and outright hypocritical) than "be polite."
Banned Atri- Troll |
08.21.05 - 10:47 am | #
rE: politeness .... threatening to kill the president is polite? threatening to kill michelle malkin and calling her a gook on every thread is polite? atrios uses his cranks in the comments box as catspaws. he doesnt give a rats ass about decorum.
Banned Atri- Troll |
08.21.05 - 10:51 am | #
"I have dissented from the prevailing view here and never been banned, as have other regular Atriots and drive-bys."
hahaha- what type of ammo to use on GWB does not constitute dissent.
Banned Atri- Troll |
08.21.05 - 10:52 am | #
Permanent banishment? To the Forbidden zone, I saw that movie.
Naw, can't happen, SwitchProxy Plugin for FireFox is my friend.
Barry from AK (in Chicago) |
08.21.05 - 12:41 pm | #
Barber's newest cause is "The Air America Scandal" (something about them getting some funding from a non-profit that would have otherwise gone to poor NYC "black" kids).
She can't understand why the media won't cover the AAR" scandal" and instead covers the "untrue" Rove/Libby/Plame stuff
Ummm.. Rove: President's Deputy Chief of Staff Libby: VP's Chief of Staff. Subjects in a criminal investigation of disclosure of classified matrial/treason. Air America: A rather small Radio Network which (barber claims) no one listens to because it's boring. The Media has such backwards priorities.
trystero |
08.21.05 - 10:14 pm | #
welcome to my blog
mrdollar |
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