HULK SMASHED

GravatarFrist on a Friday nite!


Gravatarluck o' da draw, i reckon


Gravatarthrice


GravatarCindy Sheehan speaks for ME!


GravatarCindy speaks for me too. She is my personal Rosa Parks.


GravatarIcould have been, but I went back to read the article.


Gravatarhttp://www.barbneal.com/wav/tvth...emes/ cheers.wav



GravatarCindy Sheehan ought to shut it down. Take a rest. It's turning into the circus we all feared it would be, with the counter-demonstration and Al Sharpton, the soap-opera angle with her Mom's stroke. Joan Baez (bless her heart). I say, with all respect, get a little counseling (Cindy, not Joan). It really will help.

We need to get on to either prevailing in Iraq (and I know it's Hail Mary time) or some semblance of 'peace with honor'. It's time to concentrate on that, if only for the incredible men and women who are fighting over there.

I know this seems blasphemous to some, but there are other ways to do the anti-war thing. If you don't agree, it's time to check your head. We need to get those people home.

/arf


Gravatarwow I can breath again

PS Go Cindy...


GravatarSheehan was great on Maher.

I never saw her speak before without some talking head throwing bullshit Republicon talking points at her.

She seems really sweet and genuine.


GravatarNoam Sane | 08.26.05 - 11:48 pm | #

You justed repeated almost word for word Tucker Carlon's argument.

Tucker, is that you? Maybe when they cancel you they'll give Cindy Sheehan your time slot on MSNBC.


GravatarIt's turning into the circus we--

Awwwwwwww... a concern troll! The cutest, bestest troll of all!

You stand there, sweetie, while I get my flamethrower...


GravatarNoam Sane...Take a rest.


Gravatar[carves troll-warding rune on thread]


GravatarYou justed repeated almost word for word Tucker Carlon's argument.



LOL!


Gravatar Cindy Sheehan ought to shut it down.

ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

(nods to dave™©®)


GravatarConcern Trolls kinda like Care Bears, only they smell like raw sewage and are professional victims.


GravatarAwwwwwwww... a concern troll! The cutest, bestest troll of all!


Concern trolls remind me of the kind of friend you had in college who'd "advise" you that the girl you had a crush on was "too pretty for you" and you should "settle for something more realistic" or risk being rejected.


Gravatarmoveon.org has a petition to sign to keep the estate tax.

http://www.moveonpac.org/estatetax/

sign it and share it!

just think how much armor for soldiers in iraq could be funded with the paris hilton tax! and to paraphrase bill maher, "if you have to tax, you might as well tax dead, rich people."


GravatarAnd remember, kids - You don't "support the troops" when you support the LIES that KILL THEM!


GravatarWe need to get on to either prevailing in Iraq (and I know it's Hail Mary time) or some semblance of 'peace with honor'.

Did a time warp from 1971 suddenly open?


GravatarI always get on these things exactly when they're over. WHAAAAAHH!!


furthermore, I sometimes think up some seemingly eloquent things... try to put it to the keyboard it always looks sophmoric at best if not downright moronic, so my apologies for that.


along those lines...


Reading lately, an article about DU, monstrous stuff, how badly it guarbles DNA, fish stock evolution overfishing produces the lowest remaing denomitator, you almost have to then actively fish off the worst thats become the norm, so that some semblance of the (former) mean returns, well its all kinda wacked I don't really want to put together what the DU, no I Duh (ID) crowds doing,

well there's the orbital vague version of whats crossing the cranium.. Not entirely sure this is anywhere I should go. just bothering me lately.

concerning long term damage, everybody exposed to the stuff, well you get it, maybe.

very deeply disturbing stuff
anybody?

pasted from last,
a little buzzed,

A new sheet cool.


GravatarMy batses, I'm going to bed. After a long day of describing a redtail hawk (four-foot wingspan!) in my alley (!) to everyone I meet and drinking whiskey while a raccoon toddles up to the ground-level birdbath within ten feet of me, well, I'm just about done in. I'm going to go snuggle up with the spouse and a couple of cats. That's all the critters I need.

Night, batses.


GravatarConcern trolls remind me of the kind of friend you had in college who'd "advise" you that the girl you had a crush on was "too pretty for you" and you should "settle for something more realistic" or risk being rejected.

Following that conversation, you invariably walked in on the two of them having wild sex involving stiletto heels, whips, and firm vegetables...


GravatarCindy is BEAUTIFUL.


Gravatarnoam, what do you mean, we? we have only the power that we take. we have been allowed almost none, and the right-wing rdical extremists that run the show are doing their level best to take any of our tools of freedom away. Cindy Sheehan has an exit strategy, putting her way ahead of Chimpy. She'll be gone mid-week, on her way to Washington, and she will pick up more as she goes. She needs no counseling, she's taking action and working out her pain and frustration, and feeling like she's doing something positive in Casey's memory. She has been largely responsible for Chimpy's precipitous drop in the polls, because she has people thinking about the real aspects of war, always dangerous for the warmongers. You should get behind her and support her. Or offer some reasonable alternative that has a chance of getting these folks home. Otherwise you're shootin' yer mouth off. And belittling peoples' 1st Amendment obligations.


GravatarEven'n all! Looks like that last thread went right on over the cliff. I just returned from our local AAR affiliate's first birthday bash, featuring the luminous Randi Rhodes. Don't listen to her self-deprecations: she is one very attractive and charismatic woman.

I don't know what exactly the station was thinking, but roughly three times as many people showed up as the 400 they had planned for. They held it at a local inn, and basically let in the first 400, then only let people in as others came out. However, after she had given a pep talk inside, Randi came out with a stack of photos and started signing autographs and chatting with everyone outside. She was still meeting and greeting when I left.

Hanging out with that many like-minded people is amazingly liberating. I met one guy who grown up in Poland in the 30's and escaped with his family in 1940! He had several things to say about what it's like to live among true Fascists, most notably that many of the German people under Hitler professed to have no idea that they were living in a fascist regime but simply went along with the program.

I talked with another woman who had driven 60 miles with her husband to be there- she said she used to be a moderate Republican (both sides of their families are pretty hardcore rightwing), but now she is a Democrat but doesn't feel she moved all that much. Her husband had 21 years of service in the Army and had many choice words for the likes of our chickenhawk leaders.

What was so amazing was that these are all people who actually listen to AAR and so know that most of the bullshit in the mass media is worse than useless. I overheard more than one person stating some version of "I feel sorry for her and her family, but can they please shut the fuck up about Natalee Holloway?"

My kind of peoples.


GravatarDoes the admalistration have to buy suits with, like, 15 pairs of pants? For all that liar, liar stuff they do?

36%


Gravatar36%

Heh.


GravatarFor all that liar, liar stuff they do?

Two words. Nomex thong.

Alright, three words: Cheney Nomex Thong.


Gravatarronjazz,

Well met brother!


Gravatar Cindy Sheehan ought to shut it down.

Yeah, Las Madres gave up after a coupla weeks, too. They needed to get on with their lives and make crisp decisions...


Gravatar Cindy Sheehan ought to shut it down.

Yeah, Las Madres gave up after a coupla weeks, too. They needed to get on with their lives and make crisp decisions...


GravatarTosh. First chance I get I'm going to steal all his pants and replace them with purple leggings...
NTodd |


you fiend!


Gravatarhere's one from my multipurpose bird feeder. Have an owl that sits on alimb about 5 ft. about the feeder waiting for chimpmunks. owl


GravatarI just downloaded the famous "9/11" episode of The Lone Gunmen. First twenty minutes are boring, but after that it's a mind blower.


Gravatars: Cheney Nomex Thong.
Dan McEnroe |


another band name


GravatarJeebus, Dan, scary pictures in my head. Shit, dude, now I have to have another hit.


Thanks...


Gravatarolexicon - have I ever claimed to be otherwise?


GravatarFunny, I don't smell like a troll.

Hey, I couldn't be more on your side. I'm a total lefty. Tucker Carlson is a schmuck, but at least he had the balls to admit he was wrong about the war.

Anyway, if you check the polls, you'll see that she isn't resonating in general with people. It looks like a loser, politically, in the long term and may turn out to be a rope thrown to an administration that is drowning in it's own incompetence.

You have to think with your head rather than your heart sometimes, and I'm just saying this might be one of those times. Having said that, I will support her totally in anything she does. If you're doing that, make sure you make equal effort in supporting the troops. Donate to the right places, do what you can with your time.


Gravatar36% Heh. Central Scrutinizer

1000 Helens agree: 2/3 of the US realize Bush sucks.


Gravatar s: Cheney Nomex Thong.
Dan McEnroe |


another band name
olexicon, cromulent thinker


I was thinking Nomex Jock Strap might be better.

I don't know about Cheney Nomex Jock Strap though.


GravatarCindy Sheehan--when I see her, I think, there but for the grace of the divine go I.


GravatarGo Kinky----

Maybe what we all need is more Texas Jewish wisdom. Sounded like comic relief but the guy sounded like a sage compared to Rick Perry.


GravatarOwls are way cool.


Gravatarolexicon - have I ever claimed to be otherwise?
NTodd


nein
will you be stealing them from the set of "fame"


GravatarI'm a total lefty.

What's a "total lefty"?


GravatarEvening all.....


Not clever, but it's all I've got....


GravatarAlright, three words: Cheney Nomex Thong.

Three words right back at you:

:::I just whupsed my cookies all over my freakin keyboard:::

Ok, gotta go scrub out my third eye with steel wool.

brb



Gravatarnight cats and kitties and pirahna's


peace and humptiness forever


GravatarKenosha Kid--I've got the videos but haven't watched them yet.


Gravatargood evening moonbaticus realiti


GravatarIs this the purple thread of freedom?


GravatarWhat's a "total lefty"?
SWR


a lefty who is sponsored by total cereal

that is all


Gravatarnoam: which polls in particular?


GravatarHey Central--you still boiling on the plains?


GravatarAnyway, if you check the polls, you'll see that she isn't resonating in general with people.

I disagree. Only 55% of the country is paying attention, and yet she's at 35/38. Not bad for a private citizen. And given how she's driving the wingnuts into fits, that's proof positive she's doing the right thing.

As Gandhi said, "First they ignore
you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."

The media ignored her at first. Then people laughed at this lone, grieving mother who braved the heat, humidity and t-storms to hold her vigil. Then they began to smear her.

And now more and more people join her every day, while the regime refuses to "yield" to her "demands". Combined with the fact that 60% of Americans think the war is a mistake, she's providing the necessary spark.


Gravatar I just downloaded the famous "9/11" episode of The Lone Gunmen.

Off to torrentspy!


GravatarMaybe what we all need is more Texas Jewish wisdom. Sounded like comic relief but the guy sounded like a sage compared to Rick Perry.
Toes


I don't know how much of a compliment that is. Most people sound more eloquent than Gov. Goodhair.


GravatarCindy speaks for me too. She is my personal Rosa Parks.
Dr.Franklin


Me, too.

Hey, I really LIKE this guy!


GravatarRipley--no, this is the thread where I talk dirty to you.


GravatarIt's the episode amusingly titled "Pilot" - the fact that it aired in March 2001 makes the whole thing unbelievably creepy.


GravatarIf you don't agree, it's time to check your head. We need to get those people home.

/arf
Noam Sane |

Fuck off, okay?


GravatarYou can whine about "concern trolls" all you want but Noam Sane is right. Sheehan doesn't help us, and could actually end up hurting us in the end. Yeah, what she is doing makes a lot of feel good because she is making Bush uncomfortable but that is a really shortsighted and stupid reason to rally to her.
Maybe if it were closer to election time where there was less of a window for her to screw up and say something stupid, then that would be better. But in the end she is going to come across as a flake. A pitiable flake perhaps, but a flake non the less.


GravatarTom Delay then and now

“I cannot support a failed foreign policy. History teaches us that it is often easier to make war than peace. This administration is just learning that lesson right now. The president began this mission with very vague objectives and lots of unanswered questions. A month later, these questions are still unanswered. There are no clarified rules of engagement. There is no timetable. There is no legitimate definition of victory. There is no contingency plan for mission creep. There is no clear funding program. There is no agenda to bolster our overextended military. There is no explanation defining what vital national interests are at stake. There was no strategic plan for war when the president started this thing, and there still is no plan today.”

Today, when explaining why he wouldn't meet with Sheehan

“Mr. DeLay disagrees with those who believe we should give the terrorists the timeline they want and simply cut and run from the war in Iraq,” said DeLay spokeswoman Shannon Flaherty.


GravatarWe need to get on to either prevailing in Iraq (and I know it's Hail Mary time) or some semblance of 'peace with honor'.

it ain't hail mary time...all the prayers are turned to sand in their mouths...it's hail fuckin' NO time, cully...no time like the present to

get on a plane, jane
drive off in a van, dan
haul your gear aboard ship, chip
climb on the tank, hank
jump in the bradley, hadley
summon the fleet, clete
if ya gotta, hike, mike
catch a seat on a bus, gus
flag down a taxi, maxey
comandeer some cars, lars
mount up a truck, chuck
load it on a camel, jamal
if it works, piggyback, jack

just get the fuck out...


GravatarWhat's a "total lefty"?
SWR


Maybe like me? I am so left handed, that I can't do really do anything with my right hand.


GravatarI'm going to the store, you guys sit tight. Anyone need anything? A real President, an un-corruptible Congress critter, a noble cause?

God is my co-commentor, so don't go sneaking off to dKos while I'm gone.


GravatarOwls are way cool.
ronjazz


Love the white ones!


GravatarSallyh,

Coolest and wettest August on record.

89 today, and that's as warm as it's been for a week or so. Humidity still sucks though.

I'm glad to see that you survived the family thing!


GravatarAddison--I'm sorry, but I have to respectfully disagree.

Matt Taibbi gives a terrific description of Camp Casey in the Rolling Stone article, where he actually talks with Ms. Sheehan.

She's a mom.


Gravatar"We need to get on to either prevailing in Iraq (and I know it's Hail Mary time) or some semblance of 'peace with honor'."


I think I'll barf now!


Gravatar You can whine about "concern trolls" all you want but Noam Sane is right.

Mr. Hilter, he is right!


GravatarSallyh, are you still here?
Got a couple of questions for you if you've got the time.


GravatarSallyh, are you still here?
Got a couple of questions for you if you've got the time.


GravatarBoy, they're out here in droves...

...I feel so....cared for, y'know?


GravatarSounded like comic relief but the guy sounded like a sage compared to Rick Perry.

Carrot Top sounds like a sage compared to Rick Perry.


GravatarUm, what our not-a-troll-but-an-amazing-simulation friend is missing here is the realization that Cindy Sheehan is not a political operative and her actions are not political theater. She is not making strategic decisions for the long term blah blah blah - she is acting out of the core of her being and people are drawn to her for that reason. Her beingness is the kind of authenticity a party operative could only hope to see. It's not about fucking politics.

Aside from telling us how much you care and complaining that she is 'hurting the cause', what are you doing from the core of your being to improve things?


GravatarYeah, what she is doing makes a lot of feel good because she is making Bush uncomfortable but that is a really shortsighted and stupid reason to rally to her.


No. You're projecting.

The site of a mother who's lost her son doesn't make any of us "feel good".

If it makes you "feel good" you need to examine why.


GravatarSheehan doesn't help us, and could actually end up hurting us in the end.

Oh, that's bullshit and you know it.


GravatarAddison: You can whine about "concern trolls" all you want but Noam Sane is right


No, he's wrong and so are you!


GravatarUmmm... sorry about my rudeness and all in the thread below. I wish I had access to ANY cunt. Even a dumb one.


GravatarIs there a better phrase than total lefty? Utmost liberal? Terrorist-coddling commie symp? Help me out.

Man, I've been poking around here a long time, but post something semi-provocative and everybody's fangs come out.

Shit. I just want to win some elections.


GravatarMaybe like me? I am so left handed, that I can't do really do anything with my right hand.

Ned Flanders has the store for you!


GravatarDoug--certainly.


GravatarIs there a better phrase than total lefty? Utmost liberal? Terrorist-coddling commie symp? Help me out.


Concern Troll?


GravatarYeah, what she is doing makes a lot of feel good because she is making Bush uncomfortable but that is a really shortsighted and stupid reason to rally to her.

bullshit, cully

what she's doing is fucking right, correct, and altogether proper. i rally to hwer because she's the only one in the country speaking truth to power who's not also already compromised by a fucking coprotate paycheck...

Cindy speaks for me...

The USA is worth fighting and dying for...

the Busheviks....um, well, really, not so much...

.


GravatarCentral--I made it a point to have cocktails every evening.


GravatarMaybe like me? I am so left handed, that I can't do really do anything with my right hand.
David (Austin Tx)


ditto, except for swinging a golf club, I'm a total lefty


GravatarFor our concerned trolls:

Las Madres.

Rosenstrasse.

Get a clue.


Gravatar[carves troll-warding rune on thread]
Dan McEnroe | 08.26.05 - 11:50 pm |


Ummm... sorry about my rudeness and all in the thread below. I wish I had access to ANY cunt. Even a dumb one.
Gordon The Magnificent


Here he is again. Spent nine days hanging in that damn tree for nothing...


GravatarI love Cindy.


GravatarWoody:

As usual, you cut right through the bullshit to the heart of the matter.

The naysayers have NO idea what they're talking about.


GravatarNTodd--

acting as if the concern trolls have a shred of sincerity (or any concern about what is "bullshit" and what isn't) is noble of you, but a waste of time.


GravatarMatthew--how's the little guy doing?


GravatarI anxiously await the next concerned stranger to agree with the first concerned stranger. That will be swell!


GravatarGandhi doesn't help us, and could actually end up hurting us in the end. Yeah, what he is doing makes a lot of feel good because she is making the British uncomfortable but that is a really shortsighted and stupid reason to rally to him.


Gravatar82nd! I'm almost EARLY.


GravatarYou just repeated almost word for word Tucker Carlson's argument.



Tucker Carlson IS a dick!


GravatarKing doesn't help us, and could actually end up hurting us in the end. Yeah, what he is doing makes a lot of feel good because she is making the segregationists uncomfortable but that is a really shortsighted and stupid reason to rally to him.
NTodd


Gravatar Gandhi doesn't help us, and could actually end up hurting us in the end.

Remember when people in the Civil Rights Movement warned MLK not to speak out about Vietnam? And he went ahead and took the risk anyway?

Who in the mainstream is going to take that risk now? I've heard some good things from Feingold and Gary Hart and even Hagel but none of them really has the moral authority MLK had.


GravatarAddison
The wingnuts have already done their worst regarding Sheehan. If they could have unveiled bigger guns on her they would have and I think it would have failed. The only way for Sheehan to harm our cause is if they somehow link her to communists or terrorists and they've tried that already to no evail. It failed.
They've pulled out the family members that are against here which also backfired because in the minds of some people how could these people really be family or concerned family if they would so easily betray the mother of Casey Sheehan. As far as I am concerned the wingnuts went out of their way to find any relation possible, wether it was an aunt or uncle, or some distant third cousin who probably never met Casey in their lives. All of it to smear her.

I say let them try cause right now the wingnuts are doing everything they can to make sure she's ignored and made into old news because they have nothing to attacker her with. If they should do anything more severe than what they've done already it simply puts her and her story back into the limelight and they want to avoid that outcome as much as possible.

MYOB'
.


GravatarI've had a few interesting days, trying and I think being sucessfull getting my son situated in school. He did something odd at the last moment, right after he had the orientation talk about the writers program, he came out and said to me, that he wanted to change majors, to Physics.

I'm not that worried except that I want to do whatever I can to make sure he doesn't wash out of it. He's got the brain horsepower, to do this but I'm not sure he's got the motivation to pull this off. At U of M the Physics majors help run the research projects so, he's got to become competent at Physics, Astronomy (the real subject love of the department chair. his name is Dr. Friend) programing maths, and still fill the other subject obligations for the major, which really there is almost a dual one. Only a few credits is necessary to get a Physics/astronomy major from that dept.

Got any advice for me to pass on?


Gravatar"Squeaky" Johnson makes a huge big enormous announcement about "Pajamas Media"!

It's finally arrived!!!!

Go look!

www.pajamasmedia.com


And tremble!!!


Not.


GravatarAh, good evening, children. Worked late, home after 8PM, but the next four days are MINE.

Yee-ha, so to speak.


GravatarIs there a better phrase than total lefty? Utmost liberal? Terrorist-coddling commie symp? Help me out.


Concern Troll?
SWR


I think that is it. Because it is the Concern Troll, who claims to be a "Total Lefty"


GravatarYeah, and that Rosa Parks is wasting her time...they're just gonna make her get off the bus, and then where will she be?


Gravatarsally

Devon is doing good and is starting to get used to the au pair...she's been with us for a week now. The Au Pair is ready to go back to Denmark until it cools down a bit though, I think. I converted the temperature the other day for her, and when she heard me say 41 degrees, she nearly fainted.


GravatarJesus doesn't help us, and could actually end up hurting us in the end. Yeah, what he is doing makes a lot of us feel good because he is making the Romans uncomfortable but that is a really shortsighted and stupid reason to rally to him.


GravatarWe need to get on to either prevailing in Iraq (and I know it's Hail Mary time) or some semblance of 'peace with honor'.

Did a time warp from 1971 suddenly open?
Thers


Exactly!

When I read it, I thought "Cripes, how Nixonian!"

Peace with honor! Please!


GravatarTucker who?
Anyone thats on when Jon Stewart is on,doesnt exist.


Gravatarok - i left a very good ball-game because i sensed someone commenting here with a semi-provocative post what was it ? and it better not be a fake concern troll...


GravatarTom Jefferson doesn't help us, and could actually end up hurting us in the end. Yeah, what he is doing makes a lot of us feel good because he is making King George uncomfortable but that is a really shortsighted and stupid reason to rally to him.


GravatarRemember when people in the Civil Rights Movement warned MLK not to speak out about Vietnam? And he went ahead and took the risk anyway?


At times like that, I re-read his letter from Birmingham jail.

I many nascent leaders both famous and infamous honed their logic when behind bars...? ...like Guantanamo?


GravatarRemember when people in the Civil Rights Movement warned MLK not to speak out about Vietnam? And he went ahead and took the risk anyway?

Indeed.


GravatarYou may call him a concern trool, but Howard Johnson is right!


GravatarRemember when people in the Civil Rights Movement warned MLK not to speak out about Vietnam? And he went ahead and took the risk anyway?

and they killed him for it...
.


GravatarDid a time warp from 1971 suddenly open?


The government's tweaking of daylight-savings-time can't cover-up the fact they've been screwing with the continuum for years now.


GravatarSheehan doesn't help us.

I disagree. Regardless of whether people personally approve of her, by forcing the endlessly vacationing Bush into a position where he has to respond to her, the more he ends up revealing to the world what a heartless, venal dickhead he actually is. The message that is being made is that this is a man that puts "getting on with his life" above the troops.


GravatarAh, good evening, children. Worked late, home after 8PM, but the next four days are MINE.

And a finer place to spend it you will not find.

Hiya, SD. {waves}


GravatarGot any advice for me to pass on? Doug

What year is your son?


GravatarYou can whine about "concern trolls" all you want but Noam Sane is right.
Sheehan doesn't help us, and could actually end up hurting us in the end.


Horseshit.

Bush's poll numbers have gone down
in direct correlation with Sheehan's
public face.


GravatarOh great, now Sheehan is Jefferson and Ghandi all rolled up into one. You people are in for a real disappointment =/


GravatarFranklin D. Roosevelt doesn't help us, and could actually end up hurting us in the end. Yeah, what he is doing makes a lot of us feel good because he is making Adolf Hitler uncomfortable but that is a really shortsighted and stupid reason to rally to him.


GravatarI remember doing the time warp.


Gravatar"What year is your son?
JeffCO"

freshman, still 17 years old.


GravatarAbe Lincoln doesn't help us, and could actually end up hurting us in the end. Yeah, what he is doing makes a lot of us feel good because he is making the Slave States uncomfortable but that is a really shortsighted and stupid reason to rally to him.


GravatarI many nascent leaders both famous and infamous honed their logic when behind bars...?Darryl...

Gramsci's best remembered for his Prison Notebooks (before Mussolini killed him)...


GravatarEach day the war goes on the hatred increases in the hearts of the Vietnamese and in the hearts of those of humanitarian instinct. The Americans are forcing even their friends into becoming their enemies. It is curious that the Americans, who calculate so carefully on the possibilities of military victory, do not realize that in the process they are incurring deep psychological and political defeat. The image of America will never again be the image of revolution, freedom, and democracy, but the image of
violence and militarism.



Each day the war goes on the hatred increases in the hearts of the Iraqis and in the hearts of those of humanitarian instinct. The Americans are forcing even their friends into becoming their enemies. It is curious that the Americans, who calculate so carefully on the possibilities of military victory, do not realize that in the process they are incurring deep psychological and political defeat. The image of America will never again be the image of revolution, freedom, and democracy, but the image of violence and militarism.


GravatarOK, two Hitler comments. I win big-time. See Godwin.


GravatarYou may call him a concern trool, but Howard Johnson is right!
H. G. Bergeron



Oh, Lord - can we defeat our enemies?

Or are we just jerking off?


GravatarTakin' my nomex thong and going to bed...


GravatarDo the concern trolls really think we're that stupid...

...or is it, perhaps, that they're so drunk on their own stunted version of history that they're completely clueless about how obvious their bullshit is?


Gravatar...and they killed him for it.

And Robert Kennedy talked about it.


Gravatar Oh great, now Sheehan is Jefferson and Ghandi all rolled up into one. You people are in for a real disappointment =/
Las Madres.

Rosenstrasse.

Bush = 36%.


GravatarNoam said 'shit'. must be a total lefty. an zero righty would never say 'shit'. they might say 'fuck you' on the floor of the US senate but never 'shit'.


GravatarOK, two Hitler comments. I win big-time. See Godwin.
Noam Sane


Didn't realize this was a contest!


GravatarI win big-time

Actually, you lose for giving yourself up so quickly. Poseur troll!


GravatarNoam's been around before and I never noticed any troll tendencies. The jury is still out on Mrs Sheehan (it seems to me a lot of people are not paying much attention), but I think he's wrong to say she should bail.

Mrs Sheehan seems to be handling herself pretty well-- but what happens once George goes back to DC without seeing her? What is the plan then?


GravatarI anxiously await the next concerned stranger to agree with the first concerned stranger. That will be swell!
Ther

I would but I've yet to meet anyone stranger than me.


GravatarYou can whine that he's a concern trool, but Gabby Johnson's right!

Gabby: Rrrrrbrrrr!


Gravatar OK, two Hitler comments. I win big-time. See Godwin.

Sorry, Godwin's Law was suspended years ago.


GravatarGramsci's best remembered for his Prison Notebooks

Thanks!

...something else to research.

Really, thanks.


GravatarIndeed.
NTodd -- 12:22 am


Amy G played this the other week, iirc...

it never fails to move me, and i've listened to it probably a dozen times./..


GravatarOh great, now Sheehan is Jefferson and Ghandi all rolled up into one. You
people are in for a real disappointment =/
Addison | 08.27.05 - 12:24 am | #


36, asshole.


GravatarI win big-time.

What did you win?


See Godwin.

Godwin doesn't apply anymore.

Haven't you been paying attention?


GravatarCindy Sheehan is what she is.
She's not mine and not the means to a political end.
I don't know how it will turn out and frankly don't care I just want her to see it to the end whatever that is for her.


GravatarCindy Sheehan is what she is.
She's not mine and not the means to a political end.
I don't know how it will turn out and frankly don't care I just want her to see it to the end whatever that is for her.


GravatarOh great, now Sheehan is Jefferson and Ganhdi all rolled up into one. You people are in for a real disappointment =/
Addison



Nobody here said anything of the sort.


Gravatar"You can whine about "concern trolls" all you want but Noam Sane is right.
Sheehan doesn't help us, and could actually end up hurting us in the end. "


This is versus what ?, the current leader of the free world. I think I can deal with a bit of blow back from a Mother who lost their child and stood up versus a vacationing wimp who has all the empathy of a chunk of concrete.


GravatarMrs Sheehan seems to be handling herself pretty well-- but what happens once George goes back to DC without seeing her? What is the plan then?

She's planning on moving up to DC...


Gravatar OK, two Hitler comments. I win big-time. See Godwin.

Sounds a bit like Ted "Ad Hominem - I Win!" Smith...

Full disclosure: I am completely pro-Cindy, but the crowd of people around her now makes me uneasy, and I think it draws the focus away from her and diminishes her impact as an anguished, solitary figure.

But it's still a lot better than no Cindy at all.