I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
they have reason to be sensitive about it.
*blush*
another "beautiful mind", one presumes...
He's obligated to ENCOURAGE them to enlist. Typical coward rePUKE family.
It's a class thing. Romney's a rich boy, like Bush.
So when were you in Afghanistan, Haterios?
THREAD BOTS, thread bots, roly-poly thread bots--
thread bots, thread bots, eat them up. YUM!!!
Give me that old time religion:
PERU, Ind. - A custodian was arrested for making methamphetamine inside the First Baptist Church where he worked, police said. Richard J. Mosley, 30, of Peru, has been charged with felony manufacturing methamphetamine within 1,000 feet of a youth center.
He was arrested Monday after Miami County sheriff deputies discovered materials used to make the drug in the church.
He was released from the Miami County Jail on bond Tuesday. He was also charged with possession of stolen property, possession of precursors with intent to manufacture methamphetamine and maintaining a common nuisance.
Deputies searched Mosley's home and pickup truck, where they found several loaded handguns, including one that had been reported stolen. Police also confiscated several items associated with making meth, including cooking manuals and the finished product from Mosley's home in the city between Indianapolis and South Bend.
Miami County Sheriff Ken Roland said Mosley cooked the drug late at night in the attic of the church where he worked for five years and was also a member. The church ventilation system helped control the smell, he said.
The Rev. Bob Adelsperger, a pastor at the church, said he was "deeply saddened that this happened in a house of worship."
"If you read the scriptures, there are worse things than this," he said. "Although, at the moment it doesn't seem like it."
Mosley was scheduled for a hearing in Circuit Court on Sept. 8. No phone number was listed in Peru under Mosley's name to obtain comment.
So when were you in Afghanistan, Hatezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
The only "hate" I ever see HERE comes from the trolls!
thanks to the blogs, these questions are being asked,,, the word 'chickhawk' , again thanks to the blogs, has aquired a usage that extends across various boundries.
Of course Romney doesn't think the military is an option for his kids.
Sacrifice is for the Little People.
chickenhawk
bitch slapped in the Boston herald...and that is right media.
``I don't think you should be so `rah-rah' for a war that you aren't willing to send your own family members to,'' said Rose Gonzalez, 30, of Somerville, whose mother, a state employee, was deployed to Iraq in January.``If he thinks the war is so just and so important and we shouldn't pull out, then he should encourage his own sons to go.``
Nancy Lessin, a spokeswoman for Military Families Speak Out, said if Romney aspires to be president he should consider the sacrifice made by Franklin D. Roosevelt, the father of four sons all of whom enlisted in World War II.
``This is just one more politician who is willing to risk the lives of our loved ones and celebrate sending them off into a war that we never should have in,'' Lessin said.
Ignore the Useless Timewasters™.
Do it for the troops.
"Haterios?" HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW!
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i dont remember the scripture "that shalt not cook meth in thy lord god's house saith the lord". maybe its supposed to be implied.
The fact they're getting tired of this question proves it's working.
MYOB'
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Mitch was 'brainwashed' into saying that, but what he really wanted to say was:
"it is not for our kind of people" like that Pittsburg woman.
they'd like to, but they can't for one reason or another. we shouldn't be so insensitive to these republican bed wetters.
Funny, he didn't even mention the Army or Marines...
Playing the Sensitivity card. That comes right before the Civility card.
maybe they are irritable because they cant duck service anymore by joining the national guard and then not showing up.
So, he's not urged his children to enlist. Slightly different question, has he urged them to NOT enlist?
Any sane man would, even if he's a chickenhawk.
A*T*T*E*N*T*I*O*N Yellow Elephants!
If not you... then WHO?
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Hey! Olaf glad and big.
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I'm sure his sons have been very involved in war-supporting program activities.
I guess the young republicans will have to have a yellow elephant as their logo and troop mascot.
maybe they should wear yellow fatigues...
If Mitt had any of his father in him, he would remember what George Romney said about being "brainwashed" about Vietnam. George was a good guy. Mitt's mother, Lenore, on the other hand, was a class-A bitch who ran against Phil Hart for Senate and brought mudslinging to a new low.
Guess I know which genes Mitt got.
So when were you in Afghanistan, Haterios?
Ass Kicker
The important question is, when were you? And why aren't you in Iraq now? Why are others obligated to do the heavy lifting of a war you think is so cool and vital to democracy? Because you can't/don't want to/don't have time/have other priorities and so forth?
Just remember, putting a cheap Chinese made yellow ribbon magnet from Wal-Mart on your car is literally the least you can do to "support the troops".
Shows how "in the bubble" yet another Republican is.
They don't even realize they'd better be ready for this particular question from now until American trooops are out of there.
Why hasn't the press asked the President about Jenna and Not-Jenna?
Why do his daughters have something against enlisting?
I'm sure his sons have been very involved in war-supporting program activities.
Eli
-listening to limbaugh
-sacrificing humans to the cheney monster
-saying "support the troops"
-trashing anyone with a different opinion and offering no facts on which to base your claims
Wow, I think the worm has totally turned in regards to the FUBAR that is Iraq. People have finally gotten the idea that the chickenhawks are fucking them over. They expect the "little people" to go die for them while their kids are all safe, sound, overly comfortable and well-fed, not to mention well-clothed, back here at home.
Finally.
Oh, and troll: 36% 36% 36%
Moonbootica: maybe they should wear yellow fatigues...
They'll be yellow as soon as the first car backfires.
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I'm confused Duncan, why should Gov. Romney want to get his kids killed for the Jews like Casey was?
Just remember, putting a cheap Chinese made yellow ribbon magnet from Wal-Mart on your car is literally the least you can do to "support the troops".
Well, you should also be sure to drive a big ol' gas-guzzling SUV or Hummer, just to make sure the troops have a steady supply of wars to keep them occupied and "crisp".
Why don't they ask him that question? "Why does this make you angry? Are you ashamed to be advocating a war that you've apparently never even discussed with your own children? Since you think this war is such a good idea, why haven't you urged your children to enlist? Are your kids too goog to fight and die in Iraq?' They get angry and we back off. It's sad.
The sensitive creationists are suing the University of California system because they don't recognize intelligent design (or intelligent falling either) as real science.
Leading by example during a war is so last century FDR-ish. C'mon, let's give the new, distant approach a chance.
i think they hate ms. sheehan all the more when they are forced to swallow those low low low approval ratings, knowing she has contributed to them.
He wants other families to do as he says, but not as he does. Because he doesn't even urge his own family to enlist.
"It's their business," he seems to think.
Yes. It is. That's precisely the point. Soon as Bush can explain the "noble purpose" of the invasion of Iraq, maybe more people will be inclined to make Iraq "their business." But actions will always speak louder than words.
OT: Can somebody tell me what happens with child support when the person paying child support gets laid off or downsized? Our friend was paying a thousand a month for his daughter's (singular) child support and got laid off a few weeks ago. I presume their is some kind of floor amount. What if he chooses not to go back to work as his wife has a real good job? Texas does not allow the court to include his wife's income in calculating how much child support he pays.
Gordo's ID | Email | Homepage | 08.27.05 - 5:45 pm | #
This is totally and completely beyond the fucking pale. Whoever it is that is posting people's real life information and exposing them to real life harassment because of what gets done in blog comments is a fucking asshole.
It needs to stop
Gordon the Slob's real name---
Gordo hates himself so much that he's prepared to admit he's a slob just to get us to call someone who beeeyotchslapped him. Sad, really.
haterios?
Not just for breakfast anymore?
Call karl if you can't come up with something better than that.
Better monkeys please.
Whoever it is that is posting people's real life information and exposing them to real life harassment because of what gets done in blog comments is a fucking asshole.
That would be El Gordon hisself. And I think he's earned himself a banning for that.
Off topic question for Boston Area Atriots.
Who's not going to EschaCon, for whatever reason?
How about we have our own one day minicon somewhere in the Greater Boston/Cambridge/Somerville Economic Co-Prosperity Sphere on that Saturday?
Find someplace with decent pizza and beer, hopefully with free WiFi so someone with a laptop can hook up with whatever liveblogging is happening in Philly, we all throw $20.00 or so into the pot and eat/drink/talk until the money runs out or we're asked to leave as we're disturbing the other patrons with our fervent cries of FUCK BUSH!
What do you think?
millionaires generally are not fools. only a fool would enlist in bush's military.
well thats a new one Hateriots
Wow, I think the worm has totally turned in regards to the FUBAR that is Iraq. People have finally gotten the idea that the chickenhawks are fucking them over. They expect the "little people" to go die for them while their kids are all safe, sound, overly comfortable and well-fed, not to mention well-clothed, back here at home.
Finally.
Not to mention apparently unaffected by rising gasoline prices. But then, this war is not about oil, is it?
Heh.
Funniest story of the week is the politicians amazed at how upset people are about that. Joe Barton was quoted as wanting to say he was the chauffer of his government plated car, not the Congressman.
Heh.
These Republicans always want to talk about feelings. We should give them understanding and therapy...
So when were you in Afghanistan, Haterios?
Ass Kicker | 08.27.05 - 5:38 pm | #
People who seriously believe that their online hackery makes them honorary junior soldiers, people who propagandize relentlessly for the war but feel they shouldn’t be asked to serve because they have kids, and most especially those members of the jingosphere who compare any criticism of their position with treason seem to be the ones who complain the loudest about how unfairly they are being used. They are subject to personal attacks on their credibility because they have none, they are treated with contempt because they have earned it, and they resent those attacks because they are justified, unanswerable, and effective ways of neutralizing their bullshit.
Hecate - Yes, but I think the point is that people are beginning to see them get angry and are beginning to ask what right they have to be angry when it's a legitimate question.
Of course, there are going to be hawks, always, who are going to continue to support this and whatever other bullshit conflict this country gets into. For some reason, there just seem to be a certain number of people who dig war.
The sensitive creationists are suing the University of California system because
they don't recognize intelligent design (or intelligent falling either) as
real science.
kelley b. | Email | Homepage | 08.27.05 - 5:50 pm | #
The Flying Spaghetti Monster people
should hear of this!
millionaires generally are not fools.
Sure they are. They're just used to paying other people for their comforts and conveniences. Third world countries. Illegal immigrants. Volunteer armies.
Halliburton is especially grateful to the U.S. military's blind devotion to duty.
It's clear that challenging the war supporters to explain what sacrifices they've made is the nerve they don't want struck. Because of this, at every opportunity, we should be asking them this question: "what sacrifice have you made or are willing to make?" This is an example of attacking them on their strength.
If they're going to support the war, then dammit they should support the war by sacrificing. Those of us who have opposed the Iraq war from the beginning don't have to be held to that standard; we've always been against it. And no, this is not "politicizing" the war for our own purposes. It's holding those who started and promote the war to account, demanding them to justify its existence. I'd rather see American troops come home and be safe.
Wow, I think the worm has totally turned in regards to the FUBAR that is Iraq.
They wanted to believe. They needed to believe in the unvarnished sincerity of their leadership after 9/11.
But comes a time ...
For some reason, there just seem to be a certain number of people who dig war.
Especially when it's a spectator sport.
i ove how the trolls invoke stuff a woman actually didn't say(and has been disproven) and use her own and her late sons name to smear her
so very senisutve and passionate they are
OT: Jordan plea to Iraq over attack
Jordan has urged Iraq to arrest the alleged perpetrators of last week's rocket attack in Aqaba port.
Three of the four men believed to have carried out the assault fled to Iraq after the attack.
Al-Qaeda in Iraq said it fired the Katyusha rockets on US warships docked in Aqaba, killing a Jordanian soldier, and at neighbouring Eilat in Israel.
It is considered the most serious attack on the US navy since the bombing of the USS Cole in Yemen in 2000.
Atrios, friend
what this approaches, and what romney certainly recognizes is the contemporary equivalent of the threat of lese majeste...
it only needs to be shown enough times that nothing terrible happens when something terrible happens to them that the folks start getting uppity...
for a long time, they have styled themselves rulers, and foresworn their duties as governors, as our representatives, acting in our best interests...
the best thing about the nets is the capacity they possess to provide those opportunities, those glimpses into the belly of the beast ....
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This reminds me. Has anyone considered the logistical challenge of actually getting the troops out of Iraq?
Alive
It's a big hostile country. Knockout 30 runways and the troops have to drive out or walk out. No, there aren't enough helicopters.
Good way to lose an army.
OT: Can somebody tell me what happens with child support when the person paying child support gets laid off or downsized?
It's different in every state. But in NY you have to show a "material change" in the payor's circumstances to get modification. The change has to be something that was beyond the payor's control (e.g., he/she can't get modification because they took a job that pays less).
The sensitive creationists are suing the University of California system
Why don't these people just send their kids to a nice Christian university?
Especially when it's a spectator sport.
Probably the same ones who dig Jackass
His kids are not obligated to do anything.
He, however, is obligated to encourage them to serve, regardless of whether they do.
His anger shows that he knows this...
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Gordon, you can come to the miniEschacon, but you HAVE TO leave your Mother's Pantiesat home!
Seriously, Since ManRay closed, there's no place to eat or drink locally that'll permit thatsort of attire!
scott ritter had a long thoughtful article on how to disentangle ourselves from iraq--i think it was on alternet. he certainly knows the region and the people there.
Sure it's Gordon? Or is it America's Memory again? I haven't seen the rest of the threads yet, but it's another trick of AM's to take someone's identity and try and get you to harass them... it's partly why he steals names so often. Gordon on the other hand gives plenty of details about himself on his own homepage... so if it is him, it's a pretty moronic thing to think anyone would believe his real name was something else entirely.
That's Gordon posting his own info in the hopes someone will contact him and then he can cry some more about the terrible treatment that he gets here. If I were treated terribly someplace, i wouldn't go back there, but that's just me.
Now here's a question about the release at Abu Ghraib. They apparently released 1000 prisoners.
Now, in the CNN article, there's a puzzling statement:
Those chosen for release were not convicted of violent crimes, the statement said, "and all have admitted their crimes, renounced violence and pledged to be good citizens of a democratic Iraq."
Somebody, please, help me out here...
Has anyone considered the logistical challenge of actually getting the troops out of Iraq?
Yes, that's been discussed here a lot, in fact. Even those of us who are in the "get the hell out of Dodge now" camp recognize that tactically it's hard to safely extricate yourself from a quagmire. All the more reason to plan the withdrawal now, and plan it well--please, let the planning be better than it was for the occupation...
Carp'man...
nice catch...
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millionaires generally are not fools.
What about that Wal-Mart heir in his daring machine?
The sensitive creationists are suing the University of California system...
I was wondering when this was going to start. As I understand it, UCA is saying it won't recognize credits for high school science classes that are teaching "creationism." Good for UCA.
RIL - Thanks. He definitely had a material change (layoff). I'll google and see if I can find out more.
Over at Free Republic, all the chickenhawks are furious at the libruls for not understanding that poor Mitt Romney has no control over his sons' lives, and don't they understand that we have a volunteer army, so that people who don't feel like going to war don't have to go?
Well, wonderfully, one military man among them decided to chime in:
To: South40
The question was wether he urged his sons to join. He goes around urging other people to join. That's the point. He was at our going away ceremony a few weeks ago. I'm a senior staff officer in one of the Massachusetts battalions deploying to Iraq. We're toiling away at Ft Dix in pre-mobilization training. We leave for the big sand box sometime in early november. My son is 8 months old. I'm not bitter, I volunteered and am proud to serve. I just view Mitt like most other politicians - rich and phony.
38 posted on 08/27/2005 1:30:01 PM PDT by strider44
If I were treated terribly someplace, i wouldn't go back there, but that's just me.
Hecate
thatss too nuanced for a sadomasochist like G
WoodyGuthriesGuitar
Well said.
Is the wheather still beautiful there?
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chris/tx - generally, a party can go back to court to re-negotiate child support on a showing of changed circumstances. But I don't know what the attitude is at the courthouse anymore about people trying to reduce their support payments.
Your friend ought to try to find a free lawyer. If he's near a law school, it could have a clinic; there may be a legal aid where he is. It's worth looking into.
That would be El Gordon hisself. And I think he's earned himself a banning for that.
I really don't care who's doing it, it was bullshit when brownshirt Darth Rottweiler did it and its bullshit now.
RIL - Thanks. He definitely had a material change (layoff). I'll google and see if I can find out more.
chris/tx | 08.27.05 - 5:59 pm | #
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googling is great, but he should probably talk to a lawyer also.
I think they need to start teaching alchemy in chemistry classes. It's only fair. And maybe wizzardry would add some balance those calculus classes.
And in history classes, they need to give time to the idea the Moon landing was fake and that the Holocaust never happened. It's important people get both sides of the story.
US envoy meets Iraq negotiators
Iraq's US envoy has met senior negotiators of the new constitution in an attempt to broker a deal on the deadlocked draft proposals.
Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad also appealed to the powerful Shia clergy, including Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, to help break the deadlock.
A revised constitution will be put to MPs on Sunday after Shia and Kurd factions agreed on several amendments.
But Sunni Arab politicians rejected the draft, describing it as dangerous.
Mr Khalilzad held talks with parliament speaker, Hajim al-Hassani, and representatives from the main parliamentary factions, in an attempt to find a compromise on a wording in the constitution acceptable to the Sunnis
poor Mitt Romney has no control over his sons' lives
Bet he's for women to make their own reproductive choices though right?
stupid fucks, freepers freaked. hehehehe today in crawford
At the pro-Bush rally several miles away, there were some heated moments when two members of Protest Warrior, a group that frequently holds counter protests to anti-war rallies, walked in with a sign that read "Say No to War — Unless a Democrat is President."
Many Bush supporters only saw the top of the sign and believed the men were war protesters, so they began shouting and chasing the pair out. One man tore up their signs. When Will Marean of Minneapolis kept repeating that he was on the Bush side and tried to explain Protest Warrior's mission, one Bush supporter shook his hand and apologized.
People who seriously believe that their online hackery makes them honorary junior soldiers
That was sweet.
Why don't these people just send their kids to a nice Christian university?
Central Scrutinizer -5:56 pm
because they (and their smarmy get) are not interested in education. thye know as much as they'll ever know, and think that's more than enought.
their goal is rather to destroy the university as a locus of science and skepticism.
and they will never stop trying...
never
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Texas does not allow the court to include his wife's income in calculating how much child support he pays.
chris/tx
chris,
child support is income sensative to the paying ex-spouse. even tx must provide for some reformulation of the divorce decree to accommodate these "changed circumstances" if possibgle the child is entitled to coninue to enjoy the comfort and lifestyle to which she has become accustomed- however, tx is a community property state so each spouse maybe (if practicable) jointly and severably responsible for that pre-divorce lifestyle- have your friend call the tx bar association for legal aid-
Minor point - Mitt is George Romney's nephew, not son
YET ANOTHER NEW POLL BACKIN' UP SHEEHAN'S CAUSE:
WEAR/ABC-TV POLL, FLORIDA, AUG. 27
"What do you think of Cindy Sheehan's protest?"
~She's making good points: 67%
http://www.weartv.com
PREVIOUSLY.....
SAN MATEO JOURNAL NEWSPAPER POLL
"Do you agree with Cindy Sheehan?"
~YES: 73%
http://www.smdailyjournal.com/po...=18&
opinion=Yes
WRAL/CBS-TV POLL, NORTH CAROLINA, AUG. 21
"What do you think of Cindy Sheehan's efforts?"
~Sheehan is noble & right: 52%
http://www.wral.com/news/4480836...836/
detail.html
OT ... I was at the gym watching CNN and it was re-running the "Dead Wrong" progam about pre-Iraq intelligence.
So I'm reminded that George Tenant is a holdover from Clinton. And it's obvious that Tenant is going to be the major fall guy for this thing (and no, I'm not saying that he wasn't a douche bag, too).
In any case, how could Tenant not think these fuckers would throw him to the wolves? I expect more saavy from an NYC boy, I guess.
OT: Can somebody tell me what happens with child support when the person paying child support gets laid off or downsized?
It's different in every state. But in NY you have to show a "material change" in the payor's circumstances to get modification. The change has to be something that was beyond the payor's control (e.g., he/she can't get modification because they took a job that pays less).
res ipsa loquitur
Hopefully something could be worked out with the other parent until the person could get back on their feet. But not everyone is that reasonable, which is why I guess there are family courts and attorneys.
Not to mention apparently unaffected by rising gasoline prices.
I don't own a huge SUV. But today I was filling a tank on fumes, and the pump cut itself off at $35. I had to make another purchase to fill the remainder.
The clerk said that the cutoff was to minimize pump and run theft, and the mechanism hasn't been updated recently,but that the complaints were driving him apeshit.
RIL - Thanks. He definitely had a material change (layoff). I'll google and see if I can find out more.
chris/tx ... He shoud find himself a family lawyer. The law in TX is probably different and there is, of course, a whole lot of nuance ...
They wanted to believe. They needed to believe in the unvarnished sincerity of their leadership after 9/11.
Well, fuck me dead, but I think we all wanted to believe. We all wanted National Dad to say it was gonna be okay and he would kick the asses of those responsible.
Trouble is, then we expected National Dad to go out and do those things, and he didn't, at all, so the bully threatening us is still out there, and all he's taught us is how to hate one another here at home, and I'm fucking sick and tired of being told it's my lack of faith in him that's making him sit on his ass in Crawford eating barbecue or whatever the fuck.
Yo, chickenhawks, if you want to find bin Laden, I'd put down the liberals you keep looking under, cause he ain't there, and every time you hoist some half-wit nobody like Ward Churchill or some easy target like Michael Moore up into the air and act like they're hiding bin Laden up their asses as a personal favor to the man, you just make yourselves look more and more ridiculous.
I know people are pissed about this war and they want to blame somebody, but it wasn't our fault. Republicans have the White House. Republicans have both houses of Congress. Republicans did this and they're going to have to live with it, and whether or not I thought mean things abou the preznit shouldn't cripple our government. And if you think it does, you obviously have even less faith in America than you accuse me of having.
I wanted to believe right along with 90 percent of everybody else who approved of Bush right after 9/11. I thought okay, you've been a layabout all your life and I don't like you much, but let's see if you can rise to the occasion.
Not only did he not rise to the occasion, he took us all with him as he sank into the floor.
A.
YET ANOTHER NEW POLL BACKIN' UP SHEEHAN'S CAUSE
And 87% believe she has every fucking right to protest, regardless of their beliefs about the war.
That's Gordon posting his own info in the hopes someone will contact him and then he can cry some more about the terrible treatment that he gets here.
As far as I know, Gordon is his real life name.
So if it's Gordon, he's trying to get you to harass someone else and if it's someone who thinks they found Gordon it's a fool.
Either way it needs to stop.
child support is income sensative to the paying ex-spouse.
Yeah, but when I practiced family law, judges were extremely suspicious of "changed cirumstances," esp. since so many paying spouses usually try to duck payment altogether.
You need a lawyer, IOW, preferably one who knows how to get around the judicial preference to say "No!"
Hi AM!
Given the timing between when Gordon announced below that he was leaving and when this information suddenly showed up, and how it showed up, I'm pretty sure it's Gordon. First came several teasers: "I have Gordon's info in anyone's interested." No one bit. Finally, somone jokingly said they like to know what state he was in or something and then, pow, the info got posted. Now, it's being posted up here, as well. Gordon's been crying about how badly he gets treated here, you know, after he shows up and calls women cunts. You may be right, but my money's on Gordon himself as the source. He can't stand not to be the center of attention for even a few minutes.
Hopefully something could be worked out with the other parent until the person could get back on their feet. But not everyone is that reasonable, which is why I guess there are family courts and attorneys.
Stinky | 08.27.05 - 6:04 pm | #
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i think in most states, child support is an agreement between you and the state. not an agreement between you and your ex.
I wanted to believe right along with 90 percent of everybody else who approved of Bush right after 9/11. I thought okay, you've been a layabout all your life and I don't like you much, but let's see if you can rise to the occasion.
Not only did he not rise to the occasion, he took us all with him as he sank into the floor.
Amen, A. That's pretty much what Slate said the other day...
In any case, how could Tenant not think these fuckers would throw him to the wolves? I expect more saavy from an NYC boy, I guess.
res ipsa loquitur -- 6:04 pm
whom the gods will destroy, first they privilege?
and he did get that nice, shiny medal of freedom, and a nice retirement...
it's not like he was ever gone have lunch in intelligence town again, is it...
he worked, and covered, for bushevik horrors; he's immune to ignomy and infamy...
Is this thing on?
Hell, I gotta force myself out into the heat to take Melissa something to eat.
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I can't say that I ever believed that Dear Leader would act in good faith, but I never in my wildest nightmares thought he would &%$# up as badly as he has.
In any case, how could Tenant not think these fuckers would throw him to the wolves? I expect more saavy from an NYC boy, I guess.
res ipsa loquitur
embedded in that arguement is also the "blame clinton" thing h=that is making the rounds
he got his medal for providing them a reason to balme clinton when the shit got too hot (like now=ish)
maybe the chickenhawk gene isn't recessive?
What Athenae said.
Tena/Olaf/Focus - Thanks guys, I will tell him to get a lawyer instead of trying to plead for himself. I just didn't understand how you could go from making a 100k/yr to zero, and be expected to pay the same child support. With the changed circumstances the court will probably give him some relief.
and he did get that nice, shiny medal of freedom, and a nice retirement...
My integrity and reputation mean more to me than some medal. They mean more to me than money, too.
It really does come down to having no shame, doesn't it? Shame is not a concept that exists in our society anymore.
That was sweet.
Billy B | Email | 08.27.05 - 6:02 pm | #
That was the Editors from The Poor Man Institute for Freedom and Democracy and a Pony.
The Editors are always good.
hi agave! say hi to melissa for me!
This is totally and completely beyond the fucking pale.
It may be beyond the pale, but it sure got rid of the little fucker, didn't it.
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Mitt forget about it...
I got my bullshit deflectors on.
"I will fight in a war to defend our freedom,
I ain;t dying without a good reason."
-my 22 year old son
What Athenae said.
Ditto
So well and for so many.
Ntodd, that is a good Slate story.
I really, really, really wish Democrats would turn this year's maudlin We Support Your Tasty Freedom Funnel Cakes Fest or whatever the fuck it is into a great big Where's Bin Laden Seminar.
Because I think that might be the one area where Repubs haven't exactly hammered out all the Baddest Guy In Town territory. It's one area where Dems could easily be tougher than Republicans, because Republicans ain't done shit about him.
Which scares the living hell out of me, speaking as a girl whose friends all work within a block of the Sears Tower.
A.
hi agave! say hi to melissa for me!
Olaf glad and big
Hi. I said Hey! up thread.
Will do.
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""Do you agree with Cindy Sheehan?"
~YES: 73%
of course the intrepid dems are all over this.
Oh hell. Just make sure Romney's kids' local Selective Service Board is fully staffed. What's the problem?
Thanks.
Thanks.
""Do you agree with Cindy Sheehan?"
~YES: 73%
of course the intrepid dems are all over this.
gary in fl
Why do I think Dems are afraid of being "anti-war" if they even say Cindy Sheehan's name within 10 feet of a journalist?
And oh yes, I'm going to say it. A two year Mormon mission is not the same thing as serving the United States of America in the military.
Given the timing between when Gordon announced below that he was leaving and when this information suddenly showed up, and how it showed up, I'm pretty sure it's Gordon.
In that case, maybe it's someone Gordon wants harassed. Maybe the person knows Gordon and ought to be called and told that Gordon is giving his personal information out on the internets so that the person can deal with Gordon on his own terms.
Minor point - Mitt is George Romney's nephew, not son
hopeless pedant | Email | 08.27.05 - 6:03 pm | #
Uh..no. He's George's son.
I really, really, really wish Democrats would turn this year's maudlin We Support Your Tasty Freedom Funnel Cakes Fest or whatever the fuck it is into a great big Where's Bin Laden Seminar.
PLAYING POLITICS! PLAYING POLITICS!
I got my bullshit deflectors on.
And how about this one. Just picked up the mail and my 19 year old son got an invitation to join the Army. In the brochure that touts free gift mind you is a pull out mini poster if you will that says: Serve for a short time. BE PROUD For a Lifetime. uh huh.
and how it showed up, I'm pretty sure it's Gordon.
It is Gordon, you are correct. Very first link under a Google search for that particular name is Gordon's blog calling him a stalker, and generally being dicks about him;
http://dogsnot.net/mt/archives/0...ves/
000654.html
This was in 2004. And now here he is, not letting it lie again, by encouraging people here to harass him as if he was Gordon... which of course, if anything he's claimed is even true, is only likely to set him off further against Gordon when he realises why he's being bothered...
So why not go to Gordon's own blog and point out what a fat fucking hypocrite he is, eh?
PLAYING POLITICS! PLAYING POLITICS!
I know, but maybe we could get Paul Hackett to do it or something. Because he'd just turn around and say, "Oh, fuck off already, you big pussies."
*luffs Hackett*
A.
What, did Gordon finally flip out?
He is one of- if not *the*- most loathsome trools ever, just based on the way he refers to the women here.
And the rest of his shtick is pretty low-rent too...
poor Mitt Romney has no control over his sons' lives
True, but the point is that he's never encouraged them to sign up. My son's 31; I don't have any control over his life, either. But I encourage him regularly to sign petitions, show up with me at demonstrations, boycott products, donate to candidates, etc. Whether he does or doesn't is up to him, but it would be pretty hypocritical of me to say other people should show up and demonstrate but that my son shouldn't bother.
I really, really, really wish Democrats would turn this year's maudlin We Support Your Tasty Freedom Funnel Cakes Fest or whatever the fuck it is into a great big Where's Bin Laden Seminar.
PLAYING POLITICS! PLAYING POLITICS!
NTodd
Yeah, A, it's like you want the Dems to be partisan, or something.
And we all know there's nothing worse than partisan politics.....
hey, gwpda! i heard you want to canada. are you back? how was it anyway?
I really, really, really wish Democrats would turn this year's maudlin We Support Your Tasty Freedom Funnel Cakes Fest or whatever the fuck it is into a great big Where's Bin Laden Seminar.
I have no idea what the "... Funnel Cakes Fest" refers to, but I've suddenly acquired a powerful urge to head out to Pennsylvania Dutch country.
Perhaps I will replace my "rose window" gravatar with a hex sign.
Athenae:
as a long-time layabout, i protest your so lackadaisically dripping me and my fellow layabouts in the shit that is all-things-bush (ATB).
i would remind you that many of those who proudly bear the label of 'layabout' have, in odd and rare moments actually accomplished things, without threatening to gleefully preside over the demise of all that last tiny chinchilla of what it was that was/is great, good, clean and pure...
it occurred to me today that a bumpersticker/billboard/netad of some subtlety, complexity of implicature and anaphorae, and great humor could be created from the juxtaposition of the chimp, the yellow elephant logo, and the word "Irrelephant!"
on the house...
.
Hey, olav g&b, how are you liking Alburquerque?
GWPDA - And oh yes, I'm going to say it. A two year Mormon mission is not the same thing as serving the United States of America in the military.
Well no shit - who was claiming it was? That's just totally fucked up.
Minor point - Mitt is George Romney's nephew, not son
hopeless pedant | Email | 08.27.05 - 6:03 pm | #
Uh..no. He's George's son.
Dee | Email | Homepage | 08.27.05 - 6:14 pm | #
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with mormons it's hard to keep track sometimes.
with mormons it's hard to keep track sometimes.
Olaf glad and big
HIyo!
btw,
if anyone has or knows of link to Frank Lautenberg's (D-Rocksville)floor speech calling out the chickenhawks it is def. worth a look and would be greatly appriciated as a repost.
What, did Gordon finally flip out?
He is one of- if not *the*- most loathsome trools ever, just based on the way he refers to the women here.
He evidently has never learned that that good lovin' is a giving process and not a taking one.
oh
yeah
didn't you go to alberta GWDPA?
It's a class thing. Romney's a rich boy, like Bush.
Withnail | Email | Homepage | 08.27.05 - 5:38 pm ........................................Its well known amongst the upper classes that hardy peasants like myself feel less pain,are harder to kill,and are missed less by our loved ones.
Why,I myself can take a 155 mm artillery shell in the chest and barely miss a verse to Lee Greenwoods "God Bless The USA."
i like it gwpda. seems to suit me.
didn't you go to alberta GWDPA?
olexicon, cromulent thinker
Did. Back now.
fuck haloscan with a dull, rusty, dirty chisel
Sorry for my misinformation - looks like Mitt is George's son
I should remember this, but does
anybody know at what point the
congressional democrats
started coming out
in numbers against Vietnam?
Apart from McCarthy, Bobby Kennedy
and Fulbright?
Did. Back now.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar
how was it?
Very first link under a Google search for that particular name is Gordon's blog calling him a stalker...
Heehee!
"I keep my 45 loaded and hope I don't have to use it.
Posted by: AWolf at November 20, 2004 05:57 PM
Unlike you, I wouldn't be the least bit disappointed if I was forced to use it..."
I imagine they think this makes them powerful men. My lovely liberal wife carries a .45 and is a better shot than all of the folks on her security team (save for her boss), including some Guard members destined for Iraq.
i smell a rat or twomaybe a cabinate full of fake christian ones
"There is Such a Thing as “Too Late"
by Ray McGovern
http://www.commondreams.org/view...s05/0819-
33.htm
Howdy batsies!
Along my travel route this afternoon, I saw the most funny sign ever!
Bush's Chicken.
Alright, so it was en eatery, but funny none the less.
fuck haloscan with a dull, rusty, dirty chisel
*Unable to save dull, rusty, dirty chisel (get failed)*
Why, them Romney kids have other prioritays!
Did. Back now.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar
***************
were you shopping for real estate? job hunting? just escaping the heat?
It'd be nice to have a list of all the warfloggers with kids -- and the ability to put just this question to them at every opportunity. Get 'em on the record before election-time.
I'm confused about the Gordon stuff because the only traces left of it are people talking about Gordon. (And I'm post-nap sleepy.) Did he out himself from another name, or what?
simels ...
I just heard on the radio that the Big Cup in Chelsea is closing due to rising rents. Zillions of gay men all over NYC are weeping into their lattes as I type this. I have many a gay friend who met the love of their life (well, for that day anyway) at the Big Cup.
focus - you might check out Lautenberg's Senate homepage...
The Dems have all these veterans- Kerry, Daschle, Harkin, Hackett, Cleland... I wonder how many of *them* have surviving parents (I think Kerry's mother is alive, but not sure)-- they could make an ad or something supporting Mrs Sheehan.
I mentioned this last night- but I am not sure this story is as big as a lot of you guys do, and it is still in a fragile enough stage it should stay a "mothers" thing for now.
mileage will vary tho'
haloscan, can i at least have a reach-around?
haloscan, can i at least have a reach-around?
focus, Stands with Hugo
I'm afraid haloscan believes in asbstinence
I should remember this, but does
anybody know at what point the
congressional democrats
started coming out
in numbers against Vietnam
ive forgotten too. it didnt seem like they sucked up as much the present dems tho.
hey, gwpda! i heard you want to canada. are you back? how was it anyway?
Olaf glad and big
BIG. SKY. COWS. WHEAT. HORSIES. MOUNTAINS. Damned all people from the US. Lots of Ukrainians and Chinese-Canadians, Blackfeet, country-born. No chopped liver or reubens. Nice.
I'm confused about the Gordon stuff because the only traces left of it are people talking about Gordon. (And I'm post-nap sleepy.) Did he out himself from another name, or what?
Apparently Gordon posted someone else's personal information as his own in order to induce us into harrassing them.
The offending comment no longer exists.
res ipsa:
I'm ashamed to admit my ignorance,
but I don't know the place.
haloscan, can i at least have a reach-around?
Haloscan doesn't have that kind of goddamned decency...
Um,
I've looked upthread for the post that has Gordon's personal data. I don't find one.
Course, I just got up from a nap, so I may just have missed it.
haloscan, can i at least have a reach-around?
Haloscan doesn't have that kind of goddamned decency...
ive seen that too smalfish, i need to stop there. i dont think its a political comment, but it would be a nice place to take a picture of.
so has any dem repeated cindy sheehan's question: "what is the noble cause"?
Will do.
agave - 6:12 pm
hola, hermano...
thoroughly enjoyed dinner with you and m t'other evening...good food--at least, good green chile stew (which, along with the stacked green chile/chicken enchiladas, con huevos, are the hallmarks of a great nuevo mexicano comida...
and good conversation ('convo' is my current candidate for the very least attractive abbreviation...)
.
glad you made it home safely...
BIG. SKY. COWS. WHEAT. HORSIES. MOUNTAINS. Damned all people from the US. Lots of Ukrainians and Chinese-Canadians, Blackfeet, country-born. No chopped liver or reubens. Nice.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar
welcome to western canada
though my part of saskatchewan is german, the borsht belt is to the south
congressional democrats
started coming out
in numbers against Vietnam
Wasn't it Romney's father that said he had been brainwashed?
Gordo is a really sick individual and i am suprised Atrios has tolerated his shit for so long.
ban him and keep doing it till he goes away like his lover toby...
were you shopping for real estate? job hunting? just escaping the heat?
Olaf glad and big
Just looking. Checking the drivetime, seeing whether I was permitted to leave/re-enter either country.
Glad you're liking Alburquerque. Have you made it to the Frontier yet for the cinnamon rolls?
no chopped liver or reubens! oy.
reubens are not kosher, btw. many people don't know that.
gordon is a thoroughly disgusting little weasel.
For the love of God, his children are the white offspring of a governor! What Jacobin madness are you Atriots flogging?
Today I saw in a bookstore "The Patriot's History of the United States," an overpriced inferior copy of the old Disney television American history shorts, designed in parody of Zinn's (thirty-year-old) People's History. The one glint of light: they cracked a joke about Zinn admitting to Marxian bias by calling it a people's history.
thanks NTodd
evening, y'all. ok, i'm too young to remember anything before 74, but i'm going to shuffle in to say that the place where this war is most unlike v'nam is in the hearts of our dems.
to wit: they aren't going to stand up and call for an end to the war in mass, ever. members of the 'real' democratic party, that is, those who've already said such, will be a plurality or minority. the remaining 'liberal war hawks (read: collecting checks from oil and war related industries)" will never say so much as boo, and like republicans, will hem and haw and spew senseless platitudes until the very last chopper is out. which is going to be no sooner than 08.
Help Wanted: Commander in Chief
Any suggestions?
Iran press: Unmanned plane crashes
An unmanned single-engine plane has crashed in a mountainous area of western Iran and the wreckage has been recovered by the Iranian armed forces, Iranian newspapers said.
It was not clear whether the plane was Iranian or foreign, although the influential Kayhan newspaper said that "usually these sort of planes are used for spying on other countries".
The reports quoted Ali Asgar Ahmadi, deputy head of security in the Interior Ministry, as saying the plane went down on Thursday in the Alashtar mountains near the city of Khorramabad, the capital of Lorestan province, 350km southwest of Tehran.
The offending comment no longer exists.
We have a most excellent general manager who doubles as chief cook and bottle washer. Even takes out the garbage.
gordon is a thoroughly disgusting little weasel.
pretzelattack | 08.27.05 - 6:31 pm | #
Yeah, but you're making that sound
negative.
Have you made it to the Frontier yet for the cinnamon rolls?
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no. where would i find the frontier. i'm always on the lookout for cinnamon rolls.
I'm ashamed to admit my ignorance,
but I don't know the place.
Well, you're not gay, steve and you don't, by your own admission, get out of your 'hood much.
I have a couple of good gay male friends. They just loved the Big Cup back in the '90s.
Anyway, the point is that the real estate thing here is totally out of control.
The offending comment no longer exists.
WHat kind of comment was so blatant, that it required our host to delete it?
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
that's a good one.
white privileged rich kids entering the military during a time of war.
hoo boy.
c'mon atrios, tell us another one.
I could use a good laugh.
chris/tx
You might also search at FindLaw.com
What is saying? Is he saying his kids are openly gay? Are they 4F? What's this deal about their 'status'?
Did he out himself from another name, or what?
Apparently, he posted the name and address of someone he's complained about on his piece of shit blog.
Another class act from the brownshirt world.
though my part of saskatchewan is german, the borsht belt is to the south
Ah, but the sad absence of both chopped liver and reubens make it difficult for me to contemplate a return. Borsht, yes, that in abundance - and the Hutterites provide a mighty quantity of various schlag-related and fat based food products, along with a nice line in fruits and vegs. But Hy Aisenstat (our landlord in Calgary when Mummy and Daddy first set up housekeeping) went into the steakhouse business, rather than delis, and so.... Alas, imagine there not being an acceptable reuben for like 500 miles. That's as bad as living in Albuq....
But Rommey is promoted National Guard recruitment for OTHER people's kids.
BTW - since Bill and Hillary Clinton support this war too...
Why doesn't Chealse have her dog tags yet as well as Bush's twins. Bush is telling everyone that more sacrifices are need but certainly NOT his own kids.
This war in Iraq is made up mostly of the poor. NO politicans child is in this war.
yeah being a disgusting weasel is his most attractive quality. relatively.
res ipsa:
Chelsea is one of the few
NY neighborhoods
I've never lived in.....
i smell a rat or twomaybe a cabinate full of fake christian ones
focus
Focus,
I agree. The timing so close to the Robertson threat is just too amazing.
I could use a good laugh.
TJ | Email | Homepage | 08.27.05 - 6:35 pm
still dry?
high enough?
storm forecast?
all well?
WOw. New Orleans is going to get whacked. Do we have any Atriots there? I hope not.
What is saying? Is he saying his kids are openly gay? Are they 4F? What's this deal about their 'status'?
Kent | 08.27.05 - 6:35 pm | #
***************
bedwetters, i'm guessing.
Well, you're not gay, steve...
Steve's not gay? Then where is Gordo getting all the gay cooties?
Eventually we will learn that he was brainwashed about the Iraq war.
Ifter all, if IQ is based on genetics, why not that?
Help Wanted: Commander in Chief
Any suggestions?
damn , I hate this fool...
One year in come Nov. then 3 more
it seems like a lifetime already
NO WAY
36%
New Orleans is going to get whacked. Do we have any Atriots there? I hope not.
TJ and Incog, IIRC.
Okay, fun seekers, I'm off for
my ritual Saturday night of quaffing
elitist chardonnay with my satanic
commie chums.
I'll check in later to see how
you're all doing.
i thought incog was in shreveport? maybe he moved.
Eventually we will learn that he was brainwashed about the Iraq war.
Ifter all, if IQ is based on genetics, why not that?
Ba'al
Just jumped in. I recall Gov. George Romney of Michigan saying on the record regarding VietNam that "he was brainwashed". The statement killed his run for the Presidency!
Alas, imagine there not being an acceptable reuben for like 500 miles. That's as bad as living in Albuq....
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar | Email | Homepage | 08.27.05 - 6:35 pm | #
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you know, come to think of it, i haven't seen a real deli in all my travels here. and one of these days i will want a reuben. fortunately i know how to make them from scratch.
no. where would i find the frontier. i'm always on the lookout for cinnamon rolls.
Olaf glad and big - OOoooooooooh, Woody, you didn't tell Olav this? BAD Woody. Bad, Bad. 2400 Central NE, across from the University..... On the corner, park in back. Here's the menu.
Mmmmmmmm.....
TJ and Incog, IIRC.
Uh-oh. TJ ... Are you going to evacuate?
Well, well, well, well
The SECOND link to our Mr Hall on Dogsnot is this one; scroll down to one of the names Gordon thinks is him. Look familiar?
http://dogsnot.net/mt/archives/0...ves/
000856.html
Email address is one I've seen him use before too.
Whaddya reckon folks? You know I think many, many of the trolls here are America's Memory. I had Ted Smith down as him too. Could it be....?
And in the most ironic thing of all, they've both been doing the same thing here at Eschaton at the same time. Ho ho ho INDEED if true!
Alas, imagine there not being an acceptable reuben for like 500 miles. That's as bad as living in Albuq....
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar - 6:35 pm
o ye of little faith?
how have the pleasures of an 'el pancho greenberg' so long escaped thy delicate palet, not graced thy long, supple throat, not delighted--yet taunted--thy digestive juices? How can you have lived so long without an 'el pacho greenberg'???
al monte's on rio Grande usta serve 'em...i think you still can get 'em at the quarters...
I have a friend named Katrina. Every time I see a headline such as "Katrina Strengthens" or "Katrina Menaces Louisiana" it sounds so weird.
And remember kids - You don't "support the troops" when you support the lies that kill them!
Eschatonians under the age of about 44 may find my last post mysterious. Ba'al is often mysterious. Extra turkee for you if you get it, though.
New Orleans is going to get whacked. Do we have any Atriots there? I hope not.
TJ and Incog, IIRC.
Apparentlly Incog lives in Shreveport. Someone else was on the NOLA thread that was from New Orleans.
Hi, WGG.
We're still here.
If we evacuate, we're gonna leave early tomorrow am. can't find a hotel room in the entire state of mississippi or louisiana. I want to go to crawford, but it will all depend on traffic I think.
(hi res--I'm in new orleans.)
Hecate,
I was merely pararegurgitating the Freepers' stances... but, again, one of their own, a soldier, made the same point as you. Dissension in the ranks.
Good job Agent Orange! But are you under 44?
IT IS HIM!
He confirms it here.
http://dogsnot.net/cgi-bin/mt-co...gi?
entry_id=865
Ahahahaaaa... Ladies and Gentleman, we may have our phone stalker at last.
(hi res--I'm in new orleans.)
Hey. Do not fuck with this thing, okay?
i thought incog was in shreveport? maybe he moved.
Oh, what the hell do I know? That whole fucking state is Terra Incognita to me!
I have a friend named Katrina.
So do I. Beautiful woman, worked with me at a camp for the developmentally disabled, lived in London. Haven't spoken in years, since she got married, but my heart still aches for her...
WOw. New Orleans is going to get whacked. Do we have any Atriots there? I hope not.
res ipsa loquitur | 08.27.05 - 6:36 pm
tj and lb1313, at least...probably a few others, tho not frequent commentors
How can you have lived so long without an 'el pacho greenberg'???
Alas, I was ignorant and foolish, and instead, cultivated the single Jewish mother in the entire southern part of the state, all in the hope of one taste of chopped liver.... She only made a little for the Holidays. In the end, being found wanting, I and all my ilk retreated to Phoenix....
Mitt "perfect hair even while jetskiing" Romney pissed that someone challenged him to put his sons where he wants yours to go. And here I was working all afternoon. It's not enough to get me to buy the Herald but it's got to be the best thing they've done since getting mated to the Little Paper.
Mitt Romney is so sleazy, uncaring, phony and self absorbed that if he managed to get into the White House he could probably outdo Nixon, Reagan, Bush I and Bush II in criminality.
I've got a theory that there is such a thing as familial sociopathy. I'm not sure if it's been written up but there is definitely a kind of violent, conscience-free mindset that says that no one outside the sociopath's family matter except what they can be used for. It is the predominant mindset of the rich ruling class.
We are less than objects to them.
ok. i'm taking notes. the frontier, el pancho greenberg.
this does seem like a pretty good town for good, cheap food.
im not following all this stuff about gordon and americas memory--one of them is a phone stalker? or they are both the same person?
I always have a hard time with the Overtroll Theory. The world is full of jerks.
But if research supports it, who am I to argue?
lb0313 is in NO.
I think Incog lives in North LA. He always seemed pissed when the rains from the previous rains didn't reach him.
I agree. The timing so close to the Robertson threat is just too amazing.
Diane
they are marching for election reform-i wonder if chimp & delay w/ support from Robertson and his soldiers and would tolerate that at the old democracy shell in Congress?
Has "atrios" the chickenhawk signed up for service in Afghanistan yet?
No? Then shouldn't he be harrassed and smeared until he is intimidated from all public expression of his political views?
You're a fascist, "atrios". Through and through. A miserable little brownshirt.
yeah if he still lives in shreveport he is safe, its a couple hundred miles north of no i think
INcog is in Shreveport, which is Northern Louisiana.
Wow, if New Orleans really gets whacked we could see a major disaster.
AM is a known phone stalker, Gordon the Insignificant could be him dumbing down a bit for disguise. Of course I'm in the They are all Ted school. And I'm sticking to it because it pisses the real Ted off and the other trolls too.
Old hat.
You're a fascist, "atrios". Through and through. A miserable little brownshirt.
hat -- 6:49 pm
this from a fuckwit on whose shirt you wouldn't see a week's-worth of shitstains...
irony quivers...
Mitt Romney is 58. He did not serve in Vietnam.
His father, George W Romney, was a huge supporter of that war, at least initially. The elder Romney abandoned his bid for the GOP presidential nomination two weeks before the 1968 New Hampshire primary. That was after a three-month campaign that was dogged by his nationally televised comment attributing his initial support for the Vietnam War to his being "brainwashed" by the U.S. military during a tour of the Southeast Asian country. He would later call U.S. participation in the war "the most tragic foreign policy mistake in the nation's history."
Today I saw in a bookstore "The Patriot's History of the United States," an overpriced inferior copy of the old Disney television American history shorts, designed in parody of Zinn's (thirty-year-old) People's History. The one glint of light: they cracked a joke about Zinn admitting to Marxian bias by calling it a people's history.
Published by Sentinel Press in January. And here's all you need to know about it.
From Christopher Columbus to the fall of Saddam Hussein, this book will go a long way in restoring perspective and clarity to readers' understanding of America's amazing story, and the noble, Christian principles on which the country was founded.
Sure you're not the one in need of a straightjacket? You have a rich persecution complex. No wonder you like hanging out at Eschaton -- you fit right in with all the other paranoid loons.
Try getting a life offline and your life will be better.
Ummmm, looks like he's makimg fun of Gordon for his irrational belief that everyone who trolls his blog is one person.
ah well all the trolls seem pretty similar anyway, if they arent the same person it doesnt matter much. theyre all worthless.
worked with me at a camp for the developmentally disabled
Is that why you failed to do your required 14k?
Ya know? Its still not to late. You could do some 28k miles per day.
GO ahead. DO NOT LET DOWN YOUR FAN BASE!
THIS *IS* AN ORDER!
Bwhahahahahahah!
Has "atrios" the chickenhawk signed up for service in Afghanistan yet?
I forget, are you posting from Iraq, hat?
hat | Email | 08.27.05 - 6:49 pm | #
It isn't pretty when they screw up and take a double dose of their Stupid pills, is it?
One need not worry about Romney as a potential presidential nominee-he is too secular and too modern for the Republican party.
I think it's rather amusing that all these rich politicians get angry when someone asks if their kids are going to serve.
What a bunch of wankers.
Of course I'm in the They are all Ted school-ept
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nah. gordon has a very distinctive style. he shows up and says a bunch of stupid shit and then claims that he has bitchslapped everyone.
wapisssshhh! (that is what gordon imagines that his "bitchslaps" sound like, for some reason).
they are marching for election reform-i wonder if chimp & delay w/ support from Robertson and his soldiers and would tolerate that at the old democracy shell in Congress?
focus
Heh, not likely.
About the demonstration which erupted: one wonders how many CIA operatives moved in as organizers. Like I said up thread, the timing is just too coincidental.
Re: New Orleans
wonder what it would take in the way of honoraria to persuade Pat Robertson to fly to N'Awlins and intercede with the lord?
he did such a good job for the people of Va Beach that time...
you'd think it was his xian duty...
or mebbe not.
.
thanks for all the concern.
we'll watch it throughout the night and leave in the early hours tomorrow if it doesn't turn to the east.
lots of folks in the city don't have cars and can't leave though. that's who I'm worried about.
I've been working with a group of attorneys since the last evacuation to make the city agree to open the Superdome (they refused during Ivan) to homeless and people without the means to evacuate during a hurricane.
looks like our plan worked b/c the mayor has announced it will be open.
I don't care who the trolls are.
They are boring, stupid and tiresome.
Just like their republican masters.
worked with me at a camp for the developmentally disabled
Is that why you failed to do your required 14k?
Nah, that was back in '89. These days I make up other excuses. For example: I'm a lazy-assed piece of shit. That's my current one, but I'm working on others that are more impressive (e.g., a black person took my slot; I had other priorities; the sun was in my eyes). Please don't tell flory.
Has "a--
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
Projection, thy name is "hat."
i dont think it would be possible to sign up for service in afghanistan. with the manpower shortage in iraq i bet anybody that signs up gets sent there. and i dont think soldiers get to choose where they are sent anyway, unless they request to serve in iraq.
You're a fascist, "atrios". Through and through. A miserable little brownshirt.
Not much of a projection. Eh?
Good job Agent Orange! But are you under 44?
Ba'al
In mind and spirit only!
.
yeah if he still lives in shreveport he is safe, its a couple hundred miles north of no i think
pretzelattack North and west. Other side of the state, actually, and other end.
Not even in the path, IIRC.
nah. gordon has a very distinctive style. he shows up and says a bunch of stupid shit and then claims that he has bitchslapped everyone.
You left out his other trademarks, calling women cunts and everyone else his "dancing bears."
Very strange. And before you ask, yes I am a psychiatrist.
Every time I think Cog's got this thing wrapped up, here comes hat to prove just how worng I am.
Congratulations, hat, you are now officially Eschaton's Dumbest Troll™!
gordon has a very distinctive style. he shows up and says a bunch of stupid shit and then claims that he has bitchslapped everyone.
Yeah, because when you call somebody a dumb cunt, you've already won!
BTW, the fun thing about Brownshirt G's blog is if you post a comment, the first few words also show up on the front page. So if you wrote, say, "You moronic brownshirt fucks are pathetic losers" in the "Comments" section, it would immediately show up on the home page as well.
Thanks, Brownshirt G!
> congressional democrats against Vietnam
I was 16 in 68 so I do not recall clearly . Been reading Thompson lately and my impression is the Dem politicians were not "coming out in numbers". Johnson sort of surprised everybody in 68. Mostly Repubs were beating up on Johnson because 68 was an election year. Nixon ran on the slogan "those who have had four years to end this war should not be given another chance".
After George Romney claimed that he was "brainwashed" about Vietnam, Eugene McCarthy noted that only a light rinse was necessary.
These days I make up other excuses. For example: I'm a lazy-assed piece of shit. That's my current one, but I'm working on others that are more impressive (e.g., a black person took my slot; I had other priorities; the sun was in my eyes). Please don't tell flory
I won't tell Flory, unless you call yourself a "worthless peice of shit" again.
You, my good sir, are anything but.
Just short a few miles on your trusty steed.
wapisssshhh! (that is what gordon imagines that his "bitchslaps" sound like, for some reason).
Olaf glad and big | Email | Homepage | 08.27.05 - 6:53 pm | #
lol i can see him playing with his plastic commando bush doll vs an army of cheetos, supplying appropriate sound effects like an 8 year old.
We should start a campaign of trying to get all the rich politician's kids to take the place of soldiers who want to come home.
And put actual names to the switches.
Mike Huckabee was trotting out that stupid line "but all the soldiers over there volunteered and KNEW what they where getting into. They WANT to be there" which is complete horseshit.
He conveniently ignores the soldiers who have been stoplossed and the ready reserve soldiers who thought they were done and have been press-ganged into service.
And before you ask, yes I am a psychiatrist.
Specializing in ursa-psych?
excuse me.
On October 9, 1968, Richard Nixon
said: "Those who have had a chance for
four years and could not produce peace
should not be given another chance."
After George Romney claimed that he was "brainwashed" about Vietnam, Eugene McCarthy noted that only a light rinse was necessary.
BWA HA HA HA HAHAH AAHH A HAAHH AH!
I forgot abou that. LOL.
Specializing in ursa-psych?
Abbearnormal.
Wolcott: Once More into the Chicken Coop.
looks like our plan worked b/c the mayor has announced it will be open.
TJ - 6:53 pm
one time when the nose=bleed seats'd be highly sought, likely, non?
Mitt is the same age as my nephew (by marriage)who got sent to Vietnam, got dioxin poisoning so badly that he has to take antihistamines all day for the rest of his life to prevent horrible welts all over his body (we didn't know what it was for years, it was horrific) , whose bones are deteriorating and whose wife has had six miscarriges before being told that she shouldn't try again. He was in the National Guard when he was mobilized for Vietnam.
Bush or Romney, he went so one of those warmongers wouldn't have to go. And he was against the war.
They are examples of chicken hawks, stupid hat.
smalfish - [looks down, shuffles feet]
this does seem like a pretty good town for good, cheap food.
Olaf glad and big
You're right there. Add in Blakes Lot-a-Burgers and the State Fair and you're home and safe. The food is country - with some chic places too. But really, there's nothing so comforting in the chill of an early winter morning as a big cup of Mexican chocolate and a couple of tamales, under the indoor tree at La Placita. Or, lunch at Duran's Pharmacy, glass of iced tea, stacked blue corn enchiladas, holding you safe against the snow.... The smell of green chile being roasted in every single bakery oven in town to the point that you can't find a fresh loaf of bread or a bollilo to save your soul.
I'm going to send you down to Old Town, you and Woody, on a mission, pretty soon. There's something there that I need.
TJ: stay safe.
We run into problems here when the winds and the floods come, because a lot of shelters aren't open to animals and people don't want to leave their dogs and cats behind. It is no freakin' fun watching one of these things bearing down. I still have weird dreams featuring the brightly colored "Vipir" weather maps from last 'cane season, yet Tampa-surrounding got away surprisingly unscathed last year.
nah. gordon has a very distinctive style. he shows up and says a bunch of stupid shit and then claims that he has bitchslapped everyone.
You left out his other trademarks, calling women cunts and everyone else his "dancing bears."
Don't forget calling eschaton a fishwrapper, calling people who make homoerotic come-ons to him sick or depraved, and calling people who he thinks are male his bitches. He likes to namesteal a lot as well.
Specializing in ursa-psych?
Abbearnormal.
Oh man, I hope you don't get called in on murder scenes. They're so grizzly. Couldn't bear it myself.
Specializing in ursa-psych?
Does that have something to do with potty-training for bears?
Actually it is pretty lonely and dark in here. One time, I somehow glimpsed a real image of myself in a mirror. It really put me off my oats. I can sit here in the gloom and make all the suggestions in the world, cut down twinkies, kill off the cheetos and by all means stay the effing hell away from McD's. But the bozo who drives the meat that surrounds me keeps on loading up the fats and sugars. You know what a technological wonder would be? A 911 service that could airlift me out of this slob when he finally code blues.
After George Romney claimed that he was "brainwashed" about Vietnam, Eugene McCarthy noted that only a light rinse was necessary.
Ba'al
And the MSM of 1968 worked Romney over pretty good for the comment. There was absolutely nothing he could say to "explain" or "clarify" what he meant.
CBS News anchor Walter Crohnkite also said something similar. I don't recall when though. Anecdotally it's said when the War lost Crohnkite's support, large numbers of Americans followed.
Not even in the path, IIRC.
Rmj, Wandering Aengus -6:55 pm
S'port'd likely catch some good rain, i bet
I would truly be interested to know if the current Gov. Romney has ever publicly stated an opinion about Vietnam. Some of our wack-o wingnut friends seem to think it was a noble endeavor tragically undermined by libruhls.
gordo also says rude things about people's families.
Gordo serves a clip round the ear
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Bear puns.
I can't bear it!
Anyhoo, I'm still hungry from last night. Must go out to forage for tamales or something.
*deserves
Oh man, I hope you don't get called in on murder scenes.
That's right polar of you.
Grin and Bear it atriots
the forces of Mordor will be defeated in the end...
The Romney family is Mormon, and has strong ties to Brigham Young University, where Mitt Romney graduated as valedictorian in 1971, before attending Harvard University and receiving law and business degrees in 1975. As most religious Mormons do, Romney performed a two-year missionary tour before college. He went to France, earning a draft deferral from the Vietnam War.
Must go out to forage for tamales or something.
four legs good-- 7:03 pm
yeah, go panda to your baser instincts
Pooh on bear puns.
Some of our wack-o wingnut friends seem to think it was a noble endeavor tragically undermined by libruhls.
Everyone knows that evil libruhls are incapable of clapping at the proper volume.
only take the bear necessarities...
That's right polar of you.
Yeah, I try to panda to my audience...
So, Little Bitch George is calling for more sacrifice.
All those in favor of sacrificing Little Bitch George say "Aye".
Wolcott So. Fucking. Nails. It.
...the working definition of a chickenhawk is--a chickenhawk is a cheerleader. A cheerleader for war. And not necessarily just the war in Iraq, or regional war in the Mideast, but war in general. A chickenhawk glorifies war as an enterprise, enjoying the heroics inside his or her head, mocking those less enthusiastic military aggression as pacifists, appeasers (Michael Ledeen's pet word), even traitors. Who patronize anyone with qualms, from the Quakers to the Chuck Hagel, with edgy impatience and disdain. Who treat the destruction of human life as a stupendous flourish as long as it's the US doing the destroying--who, that is, propose "creative destruction" on a geopolitical scale as an instrument of transformation. Not to mention an opportunity to teach those desert folks in sandals a lesson upside the head.
John Podhoretz--now there's a chickenhawk. Back in 2002, he urged Bush to adopt a Wag the Dog policy and spring an "October Surprise" on the Democrats by--well, let's hear it in his own words (via Unqualified Offerings):
"There’s a luscious double trap in starting the war as soon as possible, Mr. President. Your enemies are delirious with excitement about the corporate-greed scandals and the effect they might have on your popularity and the GOP’s standing in November.
"If you get troops on the ground quickly, they will go berserk. Incautious Democrats and liberal pundits will shriek that you’ve gone to war solely to protect yourself from the corporate-greed scandal. They will forget the lesson they so quickly learned after Sept. 11, which is that at a time of war the American people want their political leaders to stand together.
"Your enemies will hurl ugly accusations at you, Mr. President. And at least one of them will be true - the accusation that you began the war when you did for political reasons.
"But that won’t matter. It won’t matter to the American people, and it won’t matter as far as history is concerned. History will record that you and the U.S. military brought an end to a barbaric regime on its way to threatening the world."
Any grownup who could describe the scenario of getting a jump on your political enemies by going to war as "luscious"--who could treat the carnage and misery caused by massive bombing and overwhelming American firepower as a neato trick to pull on those crybaby Democrats--is a wanton clown. Suppose Bush had taken Podhoretz's tip and launched the Iraq war even earlier than he did, and the war went even worse than the one we're waging now because of haste and cynical expedience, what would history have said then? Podhoretz doesn't know, and he doesn't care. Like Richard Perle, he thinks he's got it all figured.
But an even more salient chickenhawk treatise is the one written by Podhoretz's NRO colleague and fellow pop-culture omnivore, Jonah Goldberg. In April, 2002, he too was ready to rumble with Iraq, though of course he wouldn't do any of the actual rumbling himself. He just fancied the US should smack Iraq around like Stanley Kowalski coming home with a snootful and going a quick round with Stella.
"WHY IRAQ? ...Well, I've long been an admirer of, if not a full-fledged subscriber to, what I call the 'Ledeen Doctrine.' I'm not sure my friend Michael Ledeen will thank me for ascribing authorship to him and he may have only been semi-serious when he crafted it, but here is the bedrock tenet of the Ledeen Doctrine in more or less his own words: 'Every ten years or so, the United States needs to pick up some small crappy little country and throw it against the wall, just to show the world we mean business.' That's at least how I remember Michael phrasing it at a speech at the American Enterprise Institute about a decade ago (Ledeen is one of the most entertaining public speakers I've ever heard, by the way).
[snip snip snip snip]
"...there will be plenty of time later to dissect and debate every argument, good and bad, for toppling Saddam. For now let's fall back on the Ledeen Doctrine. The United States needs to go to war with Iraq because it needs to go to war with someone in the region and Iraq makes the most sense."
Chickenhawk logic. Well, it's now 2005, and we'll be lucky to get out of the country we threw up against the wall before civil war breaks out, and our luck may have already run out.
yeah, go panda to your baser instincts
Y'all need to koala it right now.
Bush's god of war demmands more sacrifice of children
Not even in the path, IIRC.
Rmj, Wandering Aengus -6:55 pm
What does "IIRC" mean?
I'm going to send you down to Old Town, you and Woody, on a mission, pretty soon. There's something there that I need.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar -6:59 pm
you perfectly describe a gustatory dream, querida...
Scipio
Just great, simply great, it is bad enough being trapped inside this necrotic husk, but now that song is going to be bouncing around in here over and over and over.
Johnson sort of surprised everybody in 68
The shock was huge!!!I recall a short time before all the Sunday morning political pundits of the day were saying Johnson was going to win in November.
iirc= if i recall correctly
Must go out to forage for tamales or something.
While you're out, grab some bear claws for breakfast.
yeah, go panda to your baser instincts
Y'all need to koala it right now.
yeah dont go bipolar (sorry)
its a bit Grizzly...
Grrr... Haloscan thinks it's posted when it's not. So forgive the repeat if it turns up twice, but...
Ok folks, I see no one has waded into the shit that is Dogsnot yet, so here's the quick skinny for you all;
1.) I wander in, and ask if it's possible that the name being given hasn't been given by Gordon.
2.) I do a search for the name, and find out that yes, it's likely to be Gordon, because it's the name Gordon believes is one of the people stalking and harassing himself, his friends, and their blogs... And he talks about this at great length on his own blog.
3.) I idly click the second link I found for "Richard", and it lists a name you should all recognise:
[b]Ted Smith[/b]
4.) Gordon identifies that name as being the same person as "Richard" again.
5.) I look for another link to match the two ted's, the one here and the one there; I find the third link I gave, which shows "Ted Smith", again at Dogsnot, tell Gordon that he has seen Gordon's asshole-like posting at Eschaton.
So at the very least, Gordon has thought at least once that the same troll who I say is AM/Ted Smith etc, is the "Richard" whose real life details he gave today.
It may not be of course. But if it is, you've just nailed your phone stalker.
Trolling right wing blogs doesn't put me off suspecting this may be the case either. I had him pegged down as Ricky Vandal too; And people who have hunted him have said that his own politics are horribly messed up (as he is), and he does this just for attention.
Which "Ted Smith", I think you'll agree, apparently does too. Even trolling on the blogs of fat loud mouthed misogynistic assholes who come to Eschaton to be dicks, just like him... as long as it's attention.
Bear in mind that it's possible Gordon has misidentified the troll, and that AM/Ted Smith is not this Richard of which he speaks. But it's definately the same troll here and there.
And he's plainly both criminal and insane.
I agree with dave. This is one of Wolcott's best posts and that's saying something.
only take the bear necessarities...
All these refs are making me Disney...
you perfectly describe a gustatory dream, querida...
WoodyGuthriesGuitar
Mijo, pas gustatory, c'est un meuble pour mon immeuble. Although, the Basket Store has a nice line in posole.... Non, I must figure out how to direct you both, with pauses for ice cream in the parlor with the original tin ceiling....
don't care who the trolls are.
They are boring, stupid and tiresome.
Just like their republican masters.
four legs good
BINGO DING DING DING
"From Christopher Columbus to the fall of Saddam Hussein, this book will go a long way in restoring perspective and clarity to readers' understanding of America's amazing story, and the noble, Christian principles on which the country was founded."
This shit has got to stop. We left you a perfectly useful Enlightened nation. What the hell are you doing with it?
"...to sign up for service in afghanistan..."
--pretzelattack
Seems as if Afghanistan is turning into the same clusterfuck that is Iraq. And why? Maybe because we invaded Iraq and didn't take care of business in Afghanistan.
Y'all need to koala it right now.
Your just Brown nosing to your bearer instincts.
The fact that Rich Lowry and people like Hat are even addressing the chickenhawk accusations means they are totally fucking unnerved by it. Fuck them.
This is one of Wolcott's best posts and that's saying something.
Thank res ipsa... she pointed me to it.
Seems as if Afghanistan is turning into the same clusterfuck that is Iraq. And why? Maybe because we invaded Iraq and didn't take care of business in Afghanistan.
agreed. i was responding to some troll that claimed atrios was a chickenhawk because he didnt volunteer for afghanistan.
Dear Lord….Dad,
I beseech thee to please protect my base, the Haves, the Have Mores, and the Gettin’ Even Mores, from unfair and undue criticism of their sniveling cowardice and hypocrisy – they only do what they are called upon to do, given their elevated station in life. Without them, who would do the important work like Republican fund raising.
And, oh lord, please also give a wink to my lower minions (the 101st Fighting Keyboardists – Chickenhawk Division, Squawking Brigade) too. They may be of lower station, but it is unfair that they be called upon to put their money where their mouths is, ‘causin’ they are my righteous believers that mindlessly spread my message. So I says thank ya again Lord. Thank ya big time.
God Bless Merca,
Your Georgie
PS: If helping the lower minions will use up too much of my prayer and/or political capital, please disregard.
Support the troops - send a republican to Iraq.
=
Ok folks, I see no one has waded into the shit that is Dogsnot yet, so here's the quick skinny for you all...
You must be wearing hip waders. Maybe eyebrow waders. I wandered over to the Dumb Side for a couple of minutes via your links. It was incomprehensibly stupid and thuggish and drab, and I decided life is too short.
Thank you dave. Yes, res, thank you too.
Romney performed a two-year missionary tour before college. He went to France, earning a draft deferral from the Vietnam War.
Ba'al |
Some mission. BTW it sounds...French!
what's bruin?
Has there ever been a major city get a direct hit from a major hurricane?
I don't recall it ever happening.
NYC maybe?
Bear in mind that it's possible Gordon has misidentified the troll, and that AM/Ted Smith is not this Richard of which he speaks. But it's definately the same troll here and there.
And he's plainly both criminal and insane.
America's Nemesis | Email | 08.27.05 - 7:09 pm | #
Ted followed Gordon to his blog from over here. He stopped posting there the same time he stopped posting here (late March/early April).
Sometimes the bears gets ya and sometimes YOGIt the bear. Go Gentle, Ben out of practice on the punning. Hopefully I haven't put a downer on URSINE here. Whatever the reaction, I have not to make you Brown, Bear with me while I get my act together.
file under the wahhhh! dept:
OS ANGELES (AP) -- A group representing religious schools in the state is suing the University of California admissions officials for allegedly discriminating against high schools that teach creationism and other conservative Christian viewpoints.
The Association of Christian Schools International, which represents more than 800 schools, filed a lawsuit Thursday in federal court claiming UC officials have refused to certify high school science courses that use textbooks challenging Darwin's theory of evolution.
The suit said Calvary Chapel Christian School in Murrieta, a co-plaintiff, was told its courses were rejected because they use textbooks printed by two Christian publishers, Bob Jones University Press and A Beka Books.
UC spokeswoman Ravi Poorsina said she could not comment because the university had not been served with the suit. Still, she said the university has a right to set course requirements.
"These requirements were established after careful study by faculty and staff to ensure that students who come here are fully prepared with broad knowledge and the critical thinking skills necessary to succeed."
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/sto...SUED?
SITE=MAB...
You must be wearing hip waders. Maybe eyebrow waders. I wandered over to the Dumb Side for a couple of minutes via your links. It was incomprehensibly stupid and thuggish and drab, and I decided life is too short.
yeah i clicked there too, i see why gordon comes over here instead of staying at his own blog.
We left you a perfectly useful Enlightened nation. What the hell are you doing with it?
We're privatizing it and marketing it as a Christian theme park. Keep spinning--we need the energy to power the OctoJesus and Rapturous Ferris Wheel rides...
Earlier today, I clicked on Dogsnot twice. Got a Forbidded both times. Thought that was appropiate.
Or the same time the handle disappeared, depending on your view.
i guess galveston is the closest thing smallfish.
I'm really careful about what I click on, America's Nemesis. Thank you for the research, though. I go mostly on hunches when it comes to trolls, they all come from the same basement and talk the same twaddle.
Dogsnot. Is he trying to fool us with truth in advertising or something?
the soviets of course to make sure their troops stood and fought had guns aimed at their troops so if they tried and ran away they would get cut down by their own troops.
maybe we should do the same with the young republicans....
harsh I know....
what's bruin?
The usual: coffee, trolls and puns.
Has there ever been a major city get a direct hit from a major hurricane?
I don't recall it ever happening.
NYC maybe?
I seem to recall my mother saying New York got hit in the 40s...
We're privatizing it and marketing it as a Christian theme park. Keep spinning--we need the energy to power the OctoJesus and Rapturous Ferris Wheel rides...
Oh, God, I'm sooo depressed... </Marvin>
or we could have every 10th young republican executed for cowardice like certain Roman generals did to make sure the Roman army would fight...
just to make sure the troops have a steady supply of wars to keep them occupied and "crisp".
Eli
Hell, bring all those Hummeroids back here, and sell 'em off as souvenirs, and give them dogfaces and Girenes mountain bikes! Keep 'em in shape, damn it!
Any of 'em wants leave, can come to Crawford, and clear brush. In August.
i wonder what dea agent spilled the beans...perhaps iran has less to worry about than we thought:
http://www.dallasnews.com/shared...s/news/world/
...
100,000 have enlisted; Washington calls talk of invasion unfounded
12:00 AM CDT on Saturday, August 27, 2005
By JENS ERIK GOULD / Special Contributor to The Dallas Morning News
LOS TEQUES, Venezuela – Marialena Morón always wanted to be a soldier. A 44-year old mother of six, she spends her Saturday mornings learning how to salute in the hot sun. Beside her are 250 men and women –18-year-olds next to senior citizens – lined up in formation on an overgrown soccer field south of Caracas.
For Ms. Morón, a street vendor, the chance to join the military reserves was a chance to make progress for women's rights.
But many of her mates had a more weighty objective: They expected to be ready within six months to deter any U.S. assault.
Military preparations
"We are preparing for the invasion," said Lt. Octavio Serrano, who commands Ms. Morón's reserves unit. The Americans "could come internally with the CIA...or it could be directly and militarily like they invaded Iraq."
Mr. Chávez says he fears that the U.S. covets Venezuela's oil reserves – the hemisphere's largest – at a time when global supplies are dwindling.
The usual: coffee, trolls and puns.
I like to dunk my trolls in my coffee.
Bearing in mind that I don't actually *drink* coffee.
I seem to recall my mother saying New York got hit in the 40s...
dave™©®
Not the city but Long Island got really whacked in 1936 (?).
Googlers please!
I seem to recall my mother saying New York got hit in the 40s...
dave™©® | Email | Homepage | 08.27.05 - 7:19 pm | #
hmm i just remember some program on pbs about a hurricane in the northeast--might have been long island but im not sure.
or we could have every 10th young republican executed for cowardice like certain Roman generals did to make sure the Roman army would fight...
I can't find a downside. But do you think 1 in 10 is enough?
NYC maybe?
I seem to recall my mother saying New York got hit in the 40s...
1938. It didn't hit the city directly, but it bashed it around but good.
or we could have every 10th young republican executed for cowardice like certain Roman generals did to make sure the Roman army would fight...
Scipio Moonbootica Africanus | Email | Homepage | 08.27.05 - 7:19 pm | #
i think thats where the word decimated came from.
Has there ever been a major city get a direct hit from a major hurricane?
Well, the major island of Galveston took a real good'un in 1900.
When roman soldiers returned from war their farms would usually be in disrepair so they would sell them to the atristocratic landowners, which formed Latifunda and move into the city.
the roman army under the milita system represent a cross section of roman society.
Marius changed all that by opening the army up to the poorer classes, so the army became a career and created armies with close bonds to their commanders (the exception to this was Lucius Licinius Lucullus who could never win the affection of his troops)
Bearing in mind that I don't actually *drink* coffee.
But do you shit in the woods?
My mother's family was in a car driving from Lynn Ma to our family farm in Maine when the 1938 hurricain hit. She says it was terrifying. A friend of mine says that his mother saved him by dragging him off of the roof of their appartment house in Boston where he had gone to get blown around.
It was really bad from what they tell me.
Hurricain Caroll in the 50's tore apart one of our barns. We do get real hurricains here sometimes.
CD
You just made my day with the news story about UC system schools not recognizing science courses at wingnut schools that use textbooks that challenge evolution.
Such a pleasing aroma, the aroma of wingnut angst.
Not only Google but Wikipedia:
The Great New England Hurricane of 1938. And apparently, tho' Long Island was pretty hard-hit, the storm surge in Providence, RI, was a killer.
But do you shit in the woods?
Only if I accidentally drink the troll coffee. I can't have that stinking up my apartment.
44-year old mother of six,
44-year old mother of six,
44-year old mother of six,
44-year old mother of six,
44-year old mother of six,
44-year old mother of six,
44-year old mother of six,
the roman republic failed to create a fund for their soldiers when the wars were finished which cause lots of problems...
Augustus did not make the same mistake and formed a special fund so Rome's soldiers would be provided for..
1938. It didn't hit the city directly, but it bashed it around but good.
That's it. My mom would have been four.
Same year as the Orson Welles' "War of the Worlds" panic, which she also remembered!
idjits!
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At the pro-Bush rally several miles away, there were some heated moments when two members of Protest Warrior, a group that frequently holds counter protests to anti-war rallies, walked in with a sign that read "Say No to War -- Unless a Democrat is President."
Many Bush supporters only saw the top of the sign and believed the men were war protesters, so they began shouting and chasing the pair out. One man tore up their signs. When Will Marean of Minneapolis kept repeating that he was on the Bush side and tried to explain Protest Warrior's mission, one Bush supporter shook his hand and apologized.
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You just made my day with the news story about UC system schools not recognizing science courses at wingnut schools that use textbooks that challenge evolution.
Such a pleasing aroma, the aroma of wingnut angst.
CA must make the wingnuts absolutely insane with impotent rage.
Has there ever been a major city get a direct hit from a major hurricane?
Miami was blasted by hurricane Andrew in 1992. Andrew was a Cat 5 storm with 145 mph sustained winds and gusts to 175 mph.
Nasty motherfucker, Andrew was.
bo,
LOL! Irony is clearly a little rusty in a few of these characters...
decimate [déssi mayt] (3rd person present singular decimates, present participle decimating, past decimated, past participle decimated)
vt
1. destroy large proportion of something: to kill off or remove a large proportion of a group of people, animals, or things, or of the population of a place
2. virtually destroy something: to inflict so much damage on something that it is very nearly destroyed or rendered beyond repair
3. kill one person in 10: to kill one out of every ten people, especially in a body of mutinous soldiers (archaic)
[Late 16th century. From Latin decimat- , the past participle stem of decimare , literally ‘to take a tenth’, from decimus ‘tenth’ (see decimal).]
yes I am a psychiatrist.
Eli |
of the little known pun school
Well, the major island of Galveston took a real good'un in 1900.
Doozer
Wasn't that a mighty story, Isaac?
I like to dunk my trolls in my coffee.
Bearing in mind that I don't actually *drink* coffee.
* * * * *
i think thats where the word decimated came from.
Yep. The meaning has gotten a bit twisted over time. Hate when that happens.
coffee? what happened to the scotch?
The usual: coffee, trolls and puns.
Got us up a tree have they?
# 479 BC - Greco-Persian Wars: Persian forces led by Mardonius are routed by Pausanias, the Spartan commander of the Greek army in the Battle of Plataea. Along the with the Greek victory on the same day in the Battle of Mycale, the Persian invasion of Greece ended.
# 55 BC - Julius Caesar lands in Britain for the first time.
# AD 410 - Visigoth sack of Rome ends after three days.
Isn't it funny how they still call it "Darwin's theory" of evoloution as if science stopped with the publication of his last paper.
Phlogiston, an alternative theory.
Marxism, an alternative theory.
Berkley's idealism, an alternative theory.
Pi = 3, an alternative theory (as valid as creationism from what I can see).
Equal time for all theories could be really interesting and a real soloution for the one superpower problem.
Conservatives, making America weaker every day.
coffee? what happened to the scotch?
Not hot enough. I like to hear the screams.
imagine if the Romans had used steam power?
how scary would that be!
bushit stew...ewwww
Moonbotica - Augustus was very wise:
Rome, in her present exalted situation, had much less to hope than to fear from the chance of arms; and that, in the prosecution of remote wars, the undertaking became every day more difficult, the event more doubtful, and the possession more precarious, and less beneficial.
(via an article I wrote for OSP ages ago...)
re roman republic not providing for soldiers--the repubs made a similar mistake in iraq, disbanding the iraqi army, and not leaving all these soldiers any way to make a living. ripe for being recruited as insurgents.
Thread?
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I don't think people today realize just how frightening and devastating hurricanes like that Galveston and New England ones were. Back then, there were no weather satellites. All weather forecasting was done from the ground. You didn't really get any preparation time. They had no way of really knowing how big the hurricane was, where it was going to hit, or whether it was growing in strength.
IIRC, there was another big hurricane in 1964 that also hit Galveston, but because there was a weather satellite up, they had plenty of warning and were able to minimize the damage.
The Great New England Hurricane of 1938. And apparently, tho' Long Island was pretty hard-hit, the storm surge in Providence, RI, was a killer.
There is a tiny little spit of land on the western end of the RI shore called Napatree Point. In '38, no one even knew the hurricane was coming and the houses on Napatree -- big old Victorians -- were all washed out to sea, many with their inhabitants still inside.
re roman republic not providing for soldiers--the repubs made a similar mistake in iraq, disbanding the iraqi army, and not leaving all these soldiers any way to make a living. ripe for being recruited as insurgents.
What else would you expect? They can't even take care of their own troops.
pretzelattack very true a fatal early blunder for which the US is paying for now...
its really nuts throwing ex-baathist out of power, after all they know how to run the system
i believe in Japan and Germany the allies used lower level officals who had some links with the regime but knew how to run the government...
Mr. Chávez says he fears that the U.S. covets Venezuela's oil reserves – the hemisphere's largest – at a time when global supplies are dwindling.
chicago dyke -7:20 pm
Mr. Chavez' fears would, on the evidence, be well-found...especially given the indisputable US complicity in the 'coup' undertaken against him a couple of years ago...
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1066 King Harold of England defeats a force of Vikings led by King Harald Hardrada, and then receives word that William of Normandy has landed on the south coast of England at Hastings.
Re: Hurricanes
In 1969 there was a near miss for the NY area. It turned Northeast and ran parallel to Long Island about 60 miles offshore as it deteriorated. Would have been interesting if it had held together and continued on its original track. I was stationed at a Coast Guard station on LI when it happened.
Miami was blasted by hurricane Andrew in 1992
Actually Miami did NOT get hit in that hurricane. Andrew went just south of the city and hit some of the more surbaban towns. I drove thru there a few years ago and you could still see some of the damage from that storm.
I guess you could calssify Galveston as a major city for the era. If more than 10,000 people were living in that city at the time. BUt it was so long ago, there really is no comparisons to what might happen should NOLA get a direct hit.
A small tornado hit downtown Ft Worth a couple years ago and tore the shit out of a high rise. Hurricans can have the same impact to a high rise.
Not hot enough. I like to hear the screams.
Eli | Email | Homepage | 08.27.05 - 7:30 pm | #
no, no - i meant to drink. i wouldn't want to taint a good scotch with troll juice. for that, i'd recommend a deep fryer.
Away I go for cheap, cheap beer (Beast!). Hold my place, please.
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Has there ever been a major city get a direct hit from a major hurricane?
I don't recall it ever happening.
NYC maybe?
There's a reason why they call the football team the Hurricanes
Average years between direct hurricane hits.(usually within 40 miles to include small hurricanes)
(15h)once every 8.93 years
There's always Orlando
Jacksonville
Also, I can't do any more links, but I'm pretty sure that Savannah has been hit, and surely some cities in the Carolinas have been hit.
"IIRC" sound like the first line the Japanese guy on Iron Chef always says when he introduces the challenger while the emotionally stirring music plays.
"If my memory serves me well...."
Or the same time the handle disappeared, depending on your view.
That's my view. But the interesting thing is that Gordon, despite being as trustworthy as the smegma under Satan's own foreskin, identifies that handle, with a number of other handles who are trolling there as well.
Did you read the comments left under those names he indentifies as the same troll? It's an America's Memory/Ted Smith checklist
False identities, especially clearly transparent and often "female" ones? check
Obsessional focus upon the supposed validity of those names? check
Misogyny? check
Blaming you for his own offensive behaviour towards you? check
Claims of coming back again and again even after endless bans from their side of the blogs? check
Well, it all matches Gordo's own behaviour I know, as I laugh and point out to him in my own comments at his own blog... But I do believe some of the trolling there at least is likely to be the same person we have here. So does Gordon. "Ted Smith", as you state, follows him over there... but "Richard", whom Gordon thinks is the same poster, predates "Ted". And I think it's the one making abusive phone calls and printing the home addresses of posters here. Just like Gordo prints what he thinks is his address in turn, in fact.
I may be wrong. Because I am agreeing even a little with Gordon the Corpulent, the odds are quite high that I am wrong. And it would mean co-operating with the foul mouthed asshole Gordon to prove it is the same person. But still... I reckon that's our own fucked up puppy over at Dogsnot. Two of them, in fact. But one we know here by more names than just a tired old relic from his Frat days.
# AD 410 - Visigoth sack of Rome ends after three days.
yes and rome was still a power even after that. they beat attilla the hun (with the help of the visigoths i think) 40 years later. then he invaded italy the next year and was somehow talked out of sacking rome (there were all kinds of tangled alliances).
sorry if i keep going on about the roman republic just been reading up a lot about that period....
i find parallels today
1066 King Harold of England defeats a force of Vikings led by King Harald Hardrada, and then receives word that William of Normandy has landed on the south coast of England at Hastings.
STICK AN ARROW IN HIS EYE!
no, no - i meant to drink. i wouldn't want to taint a good scotch with troll juice. for that, i'd recommend a deep fryer.
Ah, okay. Strictly Dr Pepper, V-8, and iced tea for me. Er, not all at the same time...
Thread?
Nothin' yet. You'll just have to grin and... nev'mind.
Mr. Chávez says he fears that the U.S. ...
join the club
We don't need Mitt, check out MA activists getting a "bring the troops home" referendum on the 2006 ballot:
http://www.traprockpeace.org/
nat...rd_bill_ma.html
Anyway, I think his kids are like under 10?
Away I go for cheap, cheap beer (Beast!). Hold my place, please.
Doesn't Milwaukee come from the NatAm word meaning "the good, if watery, beer"?
Scipio Moonbootica Africanus (and anyone else),
Ever read "The Cartoon History Of The World?"
I highly recommend it. Lot's of good stuff on the rise and fall of civilazations, and more accurate than you'd expect. Learned a lot about India and China that I hadn't known (and read up on in "real" books later).
coffee? what happened to the scotch? - dirk gently
What? Dunk a troll in scotch? I call abomination!
"I've got a theory that there is such a thing as familial sociopathy. I'm not sure if it's been written up but there is definitely a kind of violent, conscience-free mindset that says that no one outside the sociopath's family matter except what they can be used for. It is the predominant mindset of the rich ruling class.
We are less than objects to them.
EPT"
I'd like to add,
There's heart-felt common sense.
Then there's
the Mormon faithful...
But oh gosh golly gee,
can they sing a good song brother.
You all ought to take a look at this Protest Warrior outfit. They're a group of young punks who specialize in physically intimidating protestors. They do the whole "scarf over the face" thing and only work in groups of 6 or more. They also try to portray themselves as some sort of right-wing hacker group, but a small group of left-wing hacker kids hacked the hell out of their web site several times, humiliating them so bad they don't really talk too much about hacking any more.
These guys are a few urine-balloons away from serious federal hate-crime time. I was going to put a link to them up, but I don't want to give them any further play.
Last week the Chicago's reader cover story was about a kid who made fools of the Protest Warriors, and it's online, so I'll recommend that.
the Byzantines adopted the tatic of playing one barbarian tribe against another to stop them invading Byzantine territory.
the west lost so much when Rome collapsed....
Nasty motherfucker, Andrew was.
Billy B -- 7:27 pm
went plumb up the mississippi river and took off about a third of my roof--on a house in Baton Rouge...
Venezuela was the second map that Cheney put up on the foldover chart stand during his eternally top secret pre-war meetings with the nations oil execs in May of 2001.
The first map was Iraq.
joe lansdale set one of his novels in galveston at the time of the hurricane, about a boxing match between a then unknown jack johnson and an irishman that appeared in a later novel.
Actually Miami did NOT get hit in that hurricane. Andrew went just south of the city and hit some of the more surbaban towns.
Well, if you want to split hairs.
I work with several people that lived there at the time and said the storm was like a nuclear blast.
Ah, okay. Strictly Dr Pepper, V-8, and iced tea for me. Er, not all at the same time...
I've got dibs on your drink tix at EschaCon!
Senate aides are crafting legislation to cut $7 billion from the federal student loan program.
the Romans stopped expanding after Hardian, who fixed Roman Borders.
in fact under empire not many new territories were added.
the Roman emperor could not have any generals overshadowing them...
Imperal legates did not have as much freedom as Generals did under the Late Republic but troops could be moved around more efficently.
What? Dunk a troll in scotch? I call abomination!
bo | Email | 08.27.05 - 7:36 pm | #
no no - i was refering to embibing some.
although perhaps a cask of amantillado...
In '38, no one even knew the hurricane was coming and the houses on Napatree -- big old Victorians -- were all washed out to sea, many with their inhabitants still inside.
"Tommy, what's that odd rustling noise."
"Don't worry my dear. We seem to be floating out to sea. I am sure Mr. Roosevelt will have us back in no time."
"Fucking Jewsevelt if you ask me! I would rather die than live in his socialist state."
"My dear, you are prescient. Fucked up with your coupon clipping hate. But prescient."
"Tommy, a halibut just grazed my thigh."
I've got dibs on your drink tix at EschaCon!
I have no idea what this means...
I've been gone for a few weeks camping in Canada and am just catching up on what has happened in the US while I was in paradise.
This thing with Robertson. Is anyone selling T-shirts with his face on one side with a target bullseye on the forehead and the quote. "Do onto others as they would do..." on the otherside??
I've got dibs on your drink tix at EschaCon!
NTodd | Email | Homepage | 08.27.05 - 7:37 pm | #
since i won't be there, you will have to keep me posted. i intend to outdrink you.
This thing with Robertson. Is anyone selling T-shirts with his face on one side with a target bullseye on the forehead and the quote. "Do onto others as they would do..." on the otherside??
No, it's only okay to assassinate someone if they're expecting it.
A small tornado hit downtown Ft Worth a couple years ago and tore the shit out of a high rise.
Having grown up in what is affectionately referred to as "Tornado Alley", I've seen my share of these storms.
When they claim that tornadic storms can drive a piece of straw into a concrete block, they would not be exaggerating.
After Andrew hit the Miami area, building codes were jacked way up, and now south florida has some of the strongest built home is the entire country.Sadly, too many other city entities have lacked the courage to follow suit and people pay the prices later in lives and extensive proerty damages.
Ah, okay. Strictly Dr Pepper, V-8, and iced tea for me.
Are you by any chance below dringing age? or just smarter than some of the rest of us?
cutting student aid by 7 billion....
Like I said, conservatives making America weaker every day. The model isn't Rome, it's Albania.
WoodyGuthriesGuitar
Thanks. We made it back safe and sound.
Although, we had to sit in the plane in Houston for about about 45 mins because of a 'security breach', which turned out to be 2 girls running thru security and into the next terminal.
I'm glad we were arriving and not departing, the place was crammed with pissed off people.
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didnt robertson have some shtick about praying hurricanes into being to punish gays?
Are you by any chance below dringing age? or just smarter than some of the rest of us?
Never got into the habit - never saw any reason to, and lots of reasons not to.
Senate aides are crafting legislation to cut $7 billion from the federal student loan program.
Ba'al -- 7:38 pm
Step right this way, kid...
I'm Sergeant Buttfuck, and I've got a deal for you...Yeah, really...you wanna go to school??? You sign up, serve one hitch and we'll getcha back in school at the end of it,...any schooly a want...
oh yeah, we promise...
cutting student aid by 7 billion....
Like I said, conservatives making America weaker every day. The model isn't Rome, it's Albania.
EPT |
Well let's see. Heh they could join the Army and get financial help.
"Senate aides are crafting legislation to cut $7 billion from the federal student loan program."
--Ba'al
Is there such a thing as a fifth world country?
Senate aides are crafting legislation to cut $7 billion from the federal student loan program.
Welcome to the Ownership Society.
That really blows. More impetus for my daughter to get a scholarship.
Is there such a thing as a fifth world country?
Yes and they lots of scotch.
What? Dunk a troll in scotch? I call abomination!
bo | Email | 08.27.05 - 7:36 pm | #
no no - i was refering to embibing some.
That's a good idea.
We can piss on the trolls.
Although piss from a good scotch is still too good for the trollsies.
there is this island off the florida coast, inhabited only by rich people, (no cars allowed, only golf carts i think) that has been devastated by the last couple of hurricanes. houses were rebuilt with special hurricane windows that were supposed to be able to withstand anything. the windows got blown away, np. i shouldnt find this amusing, but what did they expect?
I've got dibs on your drink tix at EschaCon!
I have no idea what this means...
Just give me any tickets you get in your registration packet. I'll take care of them.
didnt robertson have some shtick about praying hurricanes into being to punish gays?
Someone ought to lock Pat Robertson in a New Orleans basement starting at about 7 PM tomorrow.
Yo Wood -
Speaking of hurricanes, were you around Misslepissy when Camille romped ass?
Just give me any tickets you get in your registration packet. I'll take care of them.
Ahh...
We'll need to get a padlock for your zipper before I agree to that.
Someone ought to lock Pat Robertson in a New Orleans basement starting at about 7 PM tomorrow. -res ipsa loquitur
preferably with barred windows
and no glass.
the west lost so much when Rome collapsed....
yes - at least Rome kept and built on the cultures it conquored.
i've become interested in Nero lately - as a child all you hear is about how rome burned under his watch. the truth seems to be more interesting.
apparently the aristocrats (not the movie, the rich romans) were not happy with his love of being on stage - it seemed beneath his station - and hated his populist policies. after "rome" (really the slums) burned, Nero rebuilt the area as a park - likened to an ancient "disney land". the other buebloods were upset that he let "just anyone" in.
all of which just means - history ain't necessarily what you think it is.
Government 'wastes' African aid
The government has been accused of wasting hundreds of thousands of pounds of African aid.
The BBC's Five Live Report said it found more than £700,000 spent on hotel bills and meals in Malawi for US staff.
The National Audit Office said it may mount an investigation into the use of consultants by the Department of International Development (DFID).
The DFID has yet to issue a response to the accusations, which will be aired in a programme on Sunday.
a chastity zipper?
Above - More thread for Little Bitch George's noose.
Sadly, too many other city entities have lacked the courage to follow suit and people pay the prices later in lives and extensive proerty damages.
I'm not going to draw anybody's attention to the article in the LA Times today concerning people whose houses have been felled by landslides which FEMA does not consider catastrophes. People who have recently refinanced, taking themselves, unbeknownst, from the protection of the previous bankruptcy act and thrusting them into the land of 'even if your $1mil mortgage is on a piece of property that's at the bottom of the Pacific Ocean you can't stop making payments'.... No, I'm not going to bring this up.
We'll need to get a padlock for your zipper before I agree to that.
HAHAHA! I only wear pants that I can slip off my slender hips, so that won't help...
Oh shit, did I just say that out loud?
and no glass.
bo -- 7:49 pm
and big, mean, hungry N'Awlins rats...
HAHAHA! I only wear pants that I can slip off my slender hips, so that won't help...
The ones that haven't been biking in, like, a year?
dirk gently I like roman history but my favourite peirod to study is the Late Roman Republic.
there is a lot of written material from the late roman republic compared to say the Empire.
i love reading up on Marius, Sulla, Pompey and Ceasar.
plus earlier commanders like Scipio Africanus and Scipio Aemilianus
"there is this island off the florida coast, inhabited only by rich people, (no cars allowed, only golf carts i think) that has been devastated by the last couple of hurricanes. houses were rebuilt with special hurricane windows that were supposed to be able to withstand anything. the windows got blown away, np. i shouldnt find this amusing, but what did they expect?"
I hate the rich. Why doesn't anyone get this?
Yo Wood -
Speaking of hurricanes, were you around Misslepissy when Camille romped ass?
Billy B - 7:48 pm
nope
b'for my time...
just Andrew, which was enough...
had a tornado one time in BR, too, one time...
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"apparently the aristocrats (not the movie, the rich romans) were not happy with his love of being on stage - it seemed beneath his station - and hated his populist policies. after "rome" (really the slums) burned, Nero rebuilt the area as a park - likened to an ancient "disney land". the other buebloods were upset that he let "just anyone" in."
Was that Nero's Golden Palace? I should find out more about that. It does sound kind of interesting.
here i come to break the thread!
Wasn't it Romney's father that said he had been brainwashed?
At the time, Eugene McCarthy had a great line ... " A light rinse should have done it"
Never got into the habit - never saw any reason to, and lots of reasons not to.
Eli
good thinking. i didn't start seriously drinking until i got a reason. i advise continuing to wait.
Nero was the last of the Julio-Claudian dynasty
line.
the Claudii were reported to be haughty and arrogance.
the Claudii were a very proud old dynasty so Nero was very blue blooded...
The senate was quite thinned due to successive civil wars and proscripsion, many old sentorial lines died out to be replaced by new ones..
If all these kids go and Harvard Business School is left empty, you all are going to feel really bad. Who will answer the call of middle management? Brave people like Mitt Romney are here to make sure that there is some on to approve your vacation request in the future.
I like roman history but my favourite peirod to study is the Late Roman Republic.
my favorites are more in the julius to tiberious reigns. nero is new to me. and of course, one can't help but be fascinated by caligula.
dirk gently very true, i like the empire as well...
two of the modules i am taking next year deal with the Late Roman Republic..
one is just the Decline of the Roman Republic and the other is Politics and Society in the Late Roman Republic
Was that Nero's Golden Palace? I should find out more about that. It does sound kind of interesting.
no, not the palace - a large open air park inside stone walls. i saw a fascinating bit on the history channel about it, now looking for a good book on the subject.
i have an especial affinity for the stage, and although i knew nero considered himself a musician, i hadn't known that he also performed on stage. so now i'm fascinated.
My grandmother was about three when the great hurricane of 1900 hit. It apparently came up through western LA.
Up to that point in LA people were buried underground. Due to LA being at sea level, the storm pushed coffins up from the ground. She said corpses were hanging from the fences. Like something out of night of the living dead.
So, let me see eef I, ¡El Gato Negro! have understood thees theeng corrrrrrectly...
thees "Enemigo a' America", ees he say-eeng that the Psicópata-trollita, she ees having so-joo-say a "prissy-slap fight" weeth el Insignificante?
¡Sagrado Saltando Saurios de Santo Simóne!
That ees funny, eef true.
Eet ees like viewing the wrestling of midgets who wear the drrresses, no?
¿Amigos, ees there a way, perhaps, to encourrrage thees?
¿eh?
Poor little chickenhawks. Do you think that, if the Republicans pick up even more seats in Congress in '06 and get another judge or two on the Supreme Court, they'll start forcing liberals to attend compulsory sensitivity training seminars to educate us about how not to offend their tender, delicate conservative sensibilities?
Shorter Intelligent Design: "I can't understand it so it must be magic. I'm Christian so Jeebus must have been the magician."
"Bearing in mind that I don't actually *drink* coffee."
I wouldn't drink coffee after it was contaminated by troll skin.
Yichz, you might as well drink your tea from a douche bag.
singing,
Movin' on up
to a new thread
in that deluxe blogsphere
in the sky.
movin' on up
to the new thread
with ntodd, spinoza, and
maybe pie!
Every time a thread dies, a Republican joins the army.
Just kidding. That never happens.
The repubs made a similar mistake in iraq, disbanding the iraqi army, and not leaving all these soldiers any way to make a living. ripe for being recruited as insurgents.
A prime example of Chimp's insular CEO culture. They treated them like laid-off employees - get lost, ten minutes to pack up your crap, security will escort you out of the building.
It never bites clueless, callous executives in the ass personally when they dispose of long-time employees like dirt (unfortunately), so why would they have the imagination to think otherwise in the wholesale disbanding of a national army.
Wasn't it Romney's father that said he had been brainwashed?
At the time, Eugene McCarthy had a great line ... " A light rinse should have done it"
Jim Faith | Email | 08.27.05 - 7:55 pm | #
LOL!
Reminds me of Churchill's classic insult regarding his successor, Clement Atlee:
"A modest little man, with much to be modest about."
Famous callouts through history:
http://seaxneat.blogspot.com/200...gh-
history.html
Who will answer the call of middle management? Brave people like Mitt Romney are here to make sure that there is some on to approve your vacation request in the future.
Er, about that bit about there *being* vacation requests, or vacations, in a GOP future -- y'all sure about that?
Given the current rapidly widening income gaps in this country, by 2025 or so we will have a small coterie at the top who are effectively on permanent vacation, while the workforce gets 48 hours sick leave per annum. To take advantage of which you had better have an injury that shows up clearly on an X-ray. Better yet, a compound fracture.
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"Not For Our Kind of People" - Atrios.
That should read, "Not for Our Kind of Democrats".
Thanks for 2004, moron.
That should read, "Not for Our Kind of Democrats".
Thanks for 2004, moron.
Cog | Email | Homepage | 08.27.05 - 9:08 pm
Nope...that should read, "Slurp, slurp, slurp...am I through douching out mAnn Coulter's big monkey cooter yet?"
Bwahahahahaha..."moron," in-fuggin'-deed...
My grandmother was about three when the great hurricane of 1900 hit. It apparently came up through western LA.
Up to that point in LA people were buried underground. Due to LA being at sea level, the storm pushed coffins up from the ground. She said corpses were hanging from the fences. Like something out of night of the living dead.
chris/tx
Ugh. Thanks for that walk through history, chris.
just kidding.
whazzup? I see Republicans are still cowardly little pussies. same story, different day.
Cog and other trolls:
Don't you understand that YOU are what Mitt, Bush, etc, MEAN what they say you're NOT their kind of people?
Do you think these rich fucks care about you?
I remember a talk show host named Lou Gordon in the late 1960s, early 1970s and he had Mitt's daddy on.
Lou asked George a question he didn't like and he stalked off the air.
Q: Where did Mitt Romney perform his Mormom mission?
A: Why, in Paris, of course.
For more Romney fun and frolic, see:
"Mitt Romney: The Great Pretender."
Maybe Mitt's mad because he DID try to get his kids killed. And they decided hypocrisy was the better part of valor.
If only Mitt's kids were dead so Michele Malkin could tell us what they think.
Wow. Lots of great posts. No one will see this, but, like everyone else I have strong feelings on this subject.
Romney has to be the ultimate hypocrite. He works to recruit others for duty but won't recruit his own sons.
All of FDR's sons enlisted within a week of Pearl Harbor.
Theodore Roosevelt's youngest son Quentin was killed at the front in the first World War. T. R. junior went ashore with his division at Utah beach on D-Day.
The Kennedy family sent all of it's service age sons off to war. One of them was killed in action and another was almost killed in action.
One of the most attractive points of John Kerry's candidacy was that he too came from an elite family, but, volunteered to go to Vietnam.
The point, is that, in the past, most elite families of our society sent their sons to war. Now, not a
chance.
This is a sign of serious decay.
Of course not all elite families have sent their sons to war.
Richard Mellon-Scaife (the grand financier of right-wing causes) is from an elite family that leaves the fighting to others. His great grandfather, Thomas Mellon (finance, steel), said that war wasn't for his sons, it was only for ruffians and common sorts.
Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln also argued for war, and went to war, despite never having served,
The dirty chickenhawks.
I think another point is that Romney, Bush, etc. etc. are all probably still supporting their slug offspring. If their offspring won't join the military, these parents have an obligation not to support them financially.
And I also want to see Chelsea Clinton join the military. Hillary voted for that war and she's real gung ho. Chelsea Clinton getting a six figure job right out of college was disgusting. Her father's Kosovo war was the precursor to illegal, non-UN-sanctioned war, the without-which-not for Bush's Iraq war.
"Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln also argued for war, and went to war, despite never having served"
Many on the extreme left have also supported Afghanistan without serving.
Chickenhawkism run rampant.
I could not think of a more intellectually dishonest tact, but I am not surprised it is the one Atrios has leetched onto instead of any real analysis of the war in Iraq or the war on Terror.
"Everyone knows terrorists are bad" - Atrios.
That sums up his position about as well as anything else. And Atrios and Kos think they can use this to move the party forward? Freaking embarassing.
There is nothing dishonest about it, intellectually or otherwise. The use of the answers about the service of family members or war supporters themselves can lead to unfairness but rarely dishonesty.
It's the Romney's who have to answer who might have to resort to dishonesty. I'll take his statement at face value. "I don't know the status of my childrens' potentially enlisting in the Guard and Reserve" OK, fair enough. Nothing wrong with that.
I think we can conclude then that he didn't urge them to join. Again, fine. Is it right for him to urge others to join but not his children? Absolutely. Will his disinterest in seeing his own family serve help the cause of enrollment? The question answers itself. Others may call Romney and the rest names but I can't speak for them.
The use of the Reserves in Iraq to the degree they have been is a shame. The use of the Guard as they have is a travesty.
If Rumsfeld actually believed that the invasion force would soon shrink rapidly, like Feith who said in May 03 the force could be 35K by late that fall, then he was still negligent in not planning for the contingency that the withdrawl woudn't occur. The same goes for the Joint Cheifs. This isn't a question of dishonesty, it a question of competence.
Cog:
You are part of a rapidly shrinking minority.
Deal with that!
Richard Mellon-Scaife (the grand financier of right-wing causes) is from an elite family that leaves the fighting to others. His great grandfather, Thomas Mellon (finance, steel), said that war wasn't for his sons, it was only for ruffians and common sorts.
cal
Why am I not surprised?
That family is a pack of cowards anyway!
I just sent Gov Romney the following:
I understand you haven't encouraged your three sons to join the US military service. Why not?
Do you think the sons of politicians and rich men should avoid military service and not support the policies of your country? What kind of kids are you raising, just a bunch of spoiled brats who think other men should fight and die in their place?
You are a supporter of the war in Iraq and a supporter of George Bush's policies. It's time you had a heart to heart talk with your sons and told them to sign up and saddle up, and get themselves over to Iraq so that some of the National Guard can come home to their own families.
I don't care if you like this message or not. Cowards like you are not fit to be President.
Of course W. Mitt Romney’s voice becomes “tinged with anger” when people ask about his family’s lack of military service. How dare anyone question you when you’re busy being a coward, a snob, and a hypocrite?
Military service is for poor people, nothing people. Let them SPILL THEIR WORTHLESS GUTS AND BRAINS. . .SCATTER THEIR LIMBS. The Romney family stand for only one thing: using wealth and connections to get good jobs and line your pockets.
It’s easy enough to figure out some sort of mailing address for most of their sons (Taggart M. “Tagg” Romney (wife Jennifer D. Romney); Matthew S. Romney (wife Laurie Romney); Joshua J. Romney; Benjamin P. Romney; and Craig E. Romney (wife Mary Romney)), but the two most accurate and pertinent Romney addresses are:
W. Mitt Romney and Ann D. Romney
171 Marsh Street
Belmont, MA 02478-2132
W. Mitt Romney and Ann D. Romney
27 Greenleaf Drive
Wolfeboro, NH 03894-4226
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