HULK SMASHED
they have reason to be sensitive about it.
*blush*
another "beautiful mind", one presumes...
He's obligated to ENCOURAGE them to enlist. Typical coward rePUKE family.
It's a class thing. Romney's a rich boy, like Bush.
So when were you in Afghanistan, Haterios?
THREAD BOTS, thread bots, roly-poly thread bots--
thread bots, thread bots, eat them up. YUM!!!
Give me that old time religion:
PERU, Ind. - A custodian was arrested for making methamphetamine inside the First Baptist Church where he worked, police said. Richard J. Mosley, 30, of Peru, has been charged with felony manufacturing methamphetamine within 1,000 feet of a youth center.
He was arrested Monday after Miami County sheriff deputies discovered materials used to make the drug in the church.
He was released from the Miami County Jail on bond Tuesday. He was also charged with possession of stolen property, possession of precursors with intent to manufacture methamphetamine and maintaining a common nuisance.
Deputies searched Mosley's home and pickup truck, where they found several loaded handguns, including one that had been reported stolen. Police also confiscated several items associated with making meth, including cooking manuals and the finished product from Mosley's home in the city between Indianapolis and South Bend.
Miami County Sheriff Ken Roland said Mosley cooked the drug late at night in the attic of the church where he worked for five years and was also a member. The church ventilation system helped control the smell, he said.
The Rev. Bob Adelsperger, a pastor at the church, said he was "deeply saddened that this happened in a house of worship."
"If you read the scriptures, there are worse things than this," he said. "Although, at the moment it doesn't seem like it."
Mosley was scheduled for a hearing in Circuit Court on Sept. 8. No phone number was listed in Peru under Mosley's name to obtain comment.
So when were you in Afghanistan, Hatezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
The only "hate" I ever see HERE comes from the trolls!
thanks to the blogs, these questions are being asked,,, the word 'chickhawk' , again thanks to the blogs, has aquired a usage that extends across various boundries.
Of course Romney doesn't think the military is an option for his kids.
Sacrifice is for the Little People.
chickenhawk
bitch slapped in the Boston herald...and that is right media.
``I don't think you should be so `rah-rah' for a war that you aren't willing to send your own family members to,'' said Rose Gonzalez, 30, of Somerville, whose mother, a state employee, was deployed to Iraq in January.``If he thinks the war is so just and so important and we shouldn't pull out, then he should encourage his own sons to go.``
Nancy Lessin, a spokeswoman for Military Families Speak Out, said if Romney aspires to be president he should consider the sacrifice made by Franklin D. Roosevelt, the father of four sons all of whom enlisted in World War II.
``This is just one more politician who is willing to risk the lives of our loved ones and celebrate sending them off into a war that we never should have in,'' Lessin said.
Ignore the Useless Timewasters™.
Do it for the troops.
"Haterios?" HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW!
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i dont remember the scripture "that shalt not cook meth in thy lord god's house saith the lord". maybe its supposed to be implied.
The fact they're getting tired of this question proves it's working.
MYOB'
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Mitch was 'brainwashed' into saying that, but what he really wanted to say was:
"it is not for our kind of people" like that Pittsburg woman.
they'd like to, but they can't for one reason or another. we shouldn't be so insensitive to these republican bed wetters.
Funny, he didn't even mention the Army or Marines...
Playing the Sensitivity card. That comes right before the Civility card.
maybe they are irritable because they cant duck service anymore by joining the national guard and then not showing up.
So, he's not urged his children to enlist. Slightly different question, has he urged them to NOT enlist?
Any sane man would, even if he's a chickenhawk.
A*T*T*E*N*T*I*O*N Yellow Elephants!
If not you... then WHO?
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Hey! Olaf glad and big.
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I'm sure his sons have been very involved in war-supporting program activities.
I guess the young republicans will have to have a yellow elephant as their logo and troop mascot.
maybe they should wear yellow fatigues...
If Mitt had any of his father in him, he would remember what George Romney said about being "brainwashed" about Vietnam. George was a good guy. Mitt's mother, Lenore, on the other hand, was a class-A bitch who ran against Phil Hart for Senate and brought mudslinging to a new low.
Guess I know which genes Mitt got.
So when were you in Afghanistan, Haterios?
Ass Kicker
The important question is, when were you? And why aren't you in Iraq now? Why are others obligated to do the heavy lifting of a war you think is so cool and vital to democracy? Because you can't/don't want to/don't have time/have other priorities and so forth?
Just remember, putting a cheap Chinese made yellow ribbon magnet from Wal-Mart on your car is literally the least you can do to "support the troops".
Shows how "in the bubble" yet another Republican is.
They don't even realize they'd better be ready for this particular question from now until American trooops are out of there.
Why hasn't the press asked the President about Jenna and Not-Jenna?
Why do his daughters have something against enlisting?
I'm sure his sons have been very involved in war-supporting program activities.
Eli
-listening to limbaugh
-sacrificing humans to the cheney monster
-saying "support the troops"
-trashing anyone with a different opinion and offering no facts on which to base your claims
Wow, I think the worm has totally turned in regards to the FUBAR that is Iraq. People have finally gotten the idea that the chickenhawks are fucking them over. They expect the "little people" to go die for them while their kids are all safe, sound, overly comfortable and well-fed, not to mention well-clothed, back here at home.
Finally.
Oh, and troll: 36% 36% 36%
Moonbootica: maybe they should wear yellow fatigues...
They'll be yellow as soon as the first car backfires.
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I'm confused Duncan, why should Gov. Romney want to get his kids killed for the Jews like Casey was?
Just remember, putting a cheap Chinese made yellow ribbon magnet from Wal-Mart on your car is literally the least you can do to "support the troops".
Well, you should also be sure to drive a big ol' gas-guzzling SUV or Hummer, just to make sure the troops have a steady supply of wars to keep them occupied and "crisp".
Why don't they ask him that question? "Why does this make you angry? Are you ashamed to be advocating a war that you've apparently never even discussed with your own children? Since you think this war is such a good idea, why haven't you urged your children to enlist? Are your kids too goog to fight and die in Iraq?' They get angry and we back off. It's sad.
The sensitive creationists are suing the University of California system because they don't recognize intelligent design (or intelligent falling either) as real science.
Leading by example during a war is so last century FDR-ish. C'mon, let's give the new, distant approach a chance.
i think they hate ms. sheehan all the more when they are forced to swallow those low low low approval ratings, knowing she has contributed to them.
He wants other families to do as he says, but not as he does. Because he doesn't even urge his own family to enlist.
"It's their business," he seems to think.
Yes. It is. That's precisely the point. Soon as Bush can explain the "noble purpose" of the invasion of Iraq, maybe more people will be inclined to make Iraq "their business." But actions will always speak louder than words.
OT: Can somebody tell me what happens with child support when the person paying child support gets laid off or downsized? Our friend was paying a thousand a month for his daughter's (singular) child support and got laid off a few weeks ago. I presume their is some kind of floor amount. What if he chooses not to go back to work as his wife has a real good job? Texas does not allow the court to include his wife's income in calculating how much child support he pays.
Gordo's ID | Email | Homepage | 08.27.05 - 5:45 pm | #
This is totally and completely beyond the fucking pale. Whoever it is that is posting people's real life information and exposing them to real life harassment because of what gets done in blog comments is a fucking asshole.
It needs to stop
Gordon the Slob's real name---
Gordo hates himself so much that he's prepared to admit he's a slob just to get us to call someone who beeeyotchslapped him. Sad, really.
haterios?
Not just for breakfast anymore?
Call karl if you can't come up with something better than that.
Better monkeys please.
Whoever it is that is posting people's real life information and exposing them to real life harassment because of what gets done in blog comments is a fucking asshole.
That would be El Gordon hisself. And I think he's earned himself a banning for that.
Off topic question for Boston Area Atriots.
Who's not going to EschaCon, for whatever reason?
How about we have our own one day minicon somewhere in the Greater Boston/Cambridge/Somerville Economic Co-Prosperity Sphere on that Saturday?
Find someplace with decent pizza and beer, hopefully with free WiFi so someone with a laptop can hook up with whatever liveblogging is happening in Philly, we all throw $20.00 or so into the pot and eat/drink/talk until the money runs out or we're asked to leave as we're disturbing the other patrons with our fervent cries of FUCK BUSH!
What do you think?
millionaires generally are not fools. only a fool would enlist in bush's military.
well thats a new one Hateriots
Wow, I think the worm has totally turned in regards to the FUBAR that is Iraq. People have finally gotten the idea that the chickenhawks are fucking them over. They expect the "little people" to go die for them while their kids are all safe, sound, overly comfortable and well-fed, not to mention well-clothed, back here at home.
Finally.
Not to mention apparently unaffected by rising gasoline prices. But then, this war is not about oil, is it?
Heh.
Funniest story of the week is the politicians amazed at how upset people are about that. Joe Barton was quoted as wanting to say he was the chauffer of his government plated car, not the Congressman.
Heh.
These Republicans always want to talk about feelings. We should give them understanding and therapy...
So when were you in Afghanistan, Haterios?
Ass Kicker | 08.27.05 - 5:38 pm | #
People who seriously believe that their online hackery makes them honorary junior soldiers, people who propagandize relentlessly for the war but feel they shouldn’t be asked to serve because they have kids, and most especially those members of the jingosphere who compare any criticism of their position with treason seem to be the ones who complain the loudest about how unfairly they are being used. They are subject to personal attacks on their credibility because they have none, they are treated with contempt because they have earned it, and they resent those attacks because they are justified, unanswerable, and effective ways of neutralizing their bullshit.
Hecate - Yes, but I think the point is that people are beginning to see them get angry and are beginning to ask what right they have to be angry when it's a legitimate question.
Of course, there are going to be hawks, always, who are going to continue to support this and whatever other bullshit conflict this country gets into. For some reason, there just seem to be a certain number of people who dig war.
The sensitive creationists are suing the University of California system because
they don't recognize intelligent design (or intelligent falling either) as
real science.
kelley b. | Email | Homepage | 08.27.05 - 5:50 pm | #
The Flying Spaghetti Monster people
should hear of this!
millionaires generally are not fools.
Sure they are. They're just used to paying other people for their comforts and conveniences. Third world countries. Illegal immigrants. Volunteer armies.
Halliburton is especially grateful to the U.S. military's blind devotion to duty.
It's clear that challenging the war supporters to explain what sacrifices they've made is the nerve they don't want struck. Because of this, at every opportunity, we should be asking them this question: "what sacrifice have you made or are willing to make?" This is an example of attacking them on their strength.
If they're going to support the war, then dammit they should support the war by sacrificing. Those of us who have opposed the Iraq war from the beginning don't have to be held to that standard; we've always been against it. And no, this is not "politicizing" the war for our own purposes. It's holding those who started and promote the war to account, demanding them to justify its existence. I'd rather see American troops come home and be safe.
Wow, I think the worm has totally turned in regards to the FUBAR that is Iraq.
They wanted to believe. They needed to believe in the unvarnished sincerity of their leadership after 9/11.
But comes a time ...
For some reason, there just seem to be a certain number of people who dig war.
Especially when it's a spectator sport.
i ove how the trolls invoke stuff a woman actually didn't say(and has been disproven) and use her own and her late sons name to smear her
so very senisutve and passionate they are
OT: Jordan plea to Iraq over attack
Jordan has urged Iraq to arrest the alleged perpetrators of last week's rocket attack in Aqaba port.
Three of the four men believed to have carried out the assault fled to Iraq after the attack.
Al-Qaeda in Iraq said it fired the Katyusha rockets on US warships docked in Aqaba, killing a Jordanian soldier, and at neighbouring Eilat in Israel.
It is considered the most serious attack on the US navy since the bombing of the USS Cole in Yemen in 2000.
Atrios, friend
what this approaches, and what romney certainly recognizes is the contemporary equivalent of the threat of lese majeste...
it only needs to be shown enough times that nothing terrible happens when something terrible happens to them that the folks start getting uppity...
for a long time, they have styled themselves rulers, and foresworn their duties as governors, as our representatives, acting in our best interests...
the best thing about the nets is the capacity they possess to provide those opportunities, those glimpses into the belly of the beast ....
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This reminds me. Has anyone considered the logistical challenge of actually getting the troops out of Iraq?
Alive
It's a big hostile country. Knockout 30 runways and the troops have to drive out or walk out. No, there aren't enough helicopters.
Good way to lose an army.
OT: Can somebody tell me what happens with child support when the person paying child support gets laid off or downsized?
It's different in every state. But in NY you have to show a "material change" in the payor's circumstances to get modification. The change has to be something that was beyond the payor's control (e.g., he/she can't get modification because they took a job that pays less).
The sensitive creationists are suing the University of California system
Why don't these people just send their kids to a nice Christian university?
Especially when it's a spectator sport.
Probably the same ones who dig Jackass
His kids are not obligated to do anything.
He, however, is obligated to encourage them to serve, regardless of whether they do.
His anger shows that he knows this...
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Gordon, you can come to the miniEschacon, but you HAVE TO leave your Mother's Pantiesat home!
Seriously, Since ManRay closed, there's no place to eat or drink locally that'll permit thatsort of attire!
scott ritter had a long thoughtful article on how to disentangle ourselves from iraq--i think it was on alternet. he certainly knows the region and the people there.
Sure it's Gordon? Or is it America's Memory again? I haven't seen the rest of the threads yet, but it's another trick of AM's to take someone's identity and try and get you to harass them... it's partly why he steals names so often. Gordon on the other hand gives plenty of details about himself on his own homepage... so if it is him, it's a pretty moronic thing to think anyone would believe his real name was something else entirely.
That's Gordon posting his own info in the hopes someone will contact him and then he can cry some more about the terrible treatment that he gets here. If I were treated terribly someplace, i wouldn't go back there, but that's just me.
Now here's a question about the release at Abu Ghraib. They apparently released 1000 prisoners.
Now, in the CNN article, there's a puzzling statement:
Those chosen for release were not convicted of violent crimes, the statement said, "and all have admitted their crimes, renounced violence and pledged to be good citizens of a democratic Iraq."
Somebody, please, help me out here...
Has anyone considered the logistical challenge of actually getting the troops out of Iraq?
Yes, that's been discussed here a lot, in fact. Even those of us who are in the "get the hell out of Dodge now" camp recognize that tactically it's hard to safely extricate yourself from a quagmire. All the more reason to plan the withdrawal now, and plan it well--please, let the planning be better than it was for the occupation...
Carp'man...
nice catch...
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millionaires generally are not fools.
What about that Wal-Mart heir in his daring machine?
The sensitive creationists are suing the University of California system...
I was wondering when this was going to start. As I understand it, UCA is saying it won't recognize credits for high school science classes that are teaching "creationism." Good for UCA.
RIL - Thanks. He definitely had a material change (layoff). I'll google and see if I can find out more.
Over at Free Republic, all the chickenhawks are furious at the libruls for not understanding that poor Mitt Romney has no control over his sons' lives, and don't they understand that we have a volunteer army, so that people who don't feel like going to war don't have to go?
Well, wonderfully, one military man among them decided to chime in:
To: South40
The question was wether he urged his sons to join. He goes around urging other people to join. That's the point. He was at our going away ceremony a few weeks ago. I'm a senior staff officer in one of the Massachusetts battalions deploying to Iraq. We're toiling away at Ft Dix in pre-mobilization training. We leave for the big sand box sometime in early november. My son is 8 months old. I'm not bitter, I volunteered and am proud to serve. I just view Mitt like most other politicians - rich and phony.
38 posted on 08/27/2005 1:30:01 PM PDT by strider44
If I were treated terribly someplace, i wouldn't go back there, but that's just me.
Hecate
thatss too nuanced for a sadomasochist like G
WoodyGuthriesGuitar
Well said.
Is the wheather still beautiful there?
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chris/tx - generally, a party can go back to court to re-negotiate child support on a showing of changed circumstances. But I don't know what the attitude is at the courthouse anymore about people trying to reduce their support payments.
Your friend ought to try to find a free lawyer. If he's near a law school, it could have a clinic; there may be a legal aid where he is. It's worth looking into.
That would be El Gordon hisself. And I think he's earned himself a banning for that.
I really don't care who's doing it, it was bullshit when brownshirt Darth Rottweiler did it and its bullshit now.
RIL - Thanks. He definitely had a material change (layoff). I'll google and see if I can find out more.
chris/tx | 08.27.05 - 5:59 pm | #
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googling is great, but he should probably talk to a lawyer also.
I think they need to start teaching alchemy in chemistry classes. It's only fair. And maybe wizzardry would add some balance those calculus classes.
And in history classes, they need to give time to the idea the Moon landing was fake and that the Holocaust never happened. It's important people get both sides of the story.
US envoy meets Iraq negotiators
Iraq's US envoy has met senior negotiators of the new constitution in an attempt to broker a deal on the deadlocked draft proposals.
Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad also appealed to the powerful Shia clergy, including Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, to help break the deadlock.
A revised constitution will be put to MPs on Sunday after Shia and Kurd factions agreed on several amendments.
But Sunni Arab politicians rejected the draft, describing it as dangerous.
Mr Khalilzad held talks with parliament speaker, Hajim al-Hassani, and representatives from the main parliamentary factions, in an attempt to find a compromise on a wording in the constitution acceptable to the Sunnis
poor Mitt Romney has no control over his sons' lives
Bet he's for women to make their own reproductive choices though right?
stupid fucks, freepers freaked. hehehehe today in crawford
At the pro-Bush rally several miles away, there were some heated moments when two members of Protest Warrior, a group that frequently holds counter protests to anti-war rallies, walked in with a sign that read "Say No to War — Unless a Democrat is President."
Many Bush supporters only saw the top of the sign and believed the men were war protesters, so they began shouting and chasing the pair out. One man tore up their signs. When Will Marean of Minneapolis kept repeating that he was on the Bush side and tried to explain Protest Warrior's mission, one Bush supporter shook his hand and apologized.
People who seriously believe that their online hackery makes them honorary junior soldiers
That was sweet.
Why don't these people just send their kids to a nice Christian university?
Central Scrutinizer -5:56 pm
because they (and their smarmy get) are not interested in education. thye know as much as they'll ever know, and think that's more than enought.
their goal is rather to destroy the university as a locus of science and skepticism.
and they will never stop trying...
never
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Texas does not allow the court to include his wife's income in calculating how much child support he pays.
chris/tx
chris,
child support is income sensative to the paying ex-spouse. even tx must provide for some reformulation of the divorce decree to accommodate these "changed circumstances" if possibgle the child is entitled to coninue to enjoy the comfort and lifestyle to which she has become accustomed- however, tx is a community property state so each spouse maybe (if practicable) jointly and severably responsible for that pre-divorce lifestyle- have your friend call the tx bar association for legal aid-
Minor point - Mitt is George Romney's nephew, not son
YET ANOTHER NEW POLL BACKIN' UP SHEEHAN'S CAUSE:
WEAR/ABC-TV POLL, FLORIDA, AUG. 27
"What do you think of Cindy Sheehan's protest?"
~She's making good points: 67%
http://www.weartv.com
PREVIOUSLY.....
SAN MATEO JOURNAL NEWSPAPER POLL
"Do you agree with Cindy Sheehan?"
~YES: 73%
http://www.smdailyjournal.com/po...=18&
opinion=Yes
WRAL/CBS-TV POLL, NORTH CAROLINA, AUG. 21
"What do you think of Cindy Sheehan's efforts?"
~Sheehan is noble & right: 52%
http://www.wral.com/news/4480836...836/
detail.html
OT ... I was at the gym watching CNN and it was re-running the "Dead Wrong" progam about pre-Iraq intelligence.
So I'm reminded that George Tenant is a holdover from Clinton. And it's obvious that Tenant is going to be the major fall guy for this thing (and no, I'm not saying that he wasn't a douche bag, too).
In any case, how could Tenant not think these fuckers would throw him to the wolves? I expect more saavy from an NYC boy, I guess.
OT: Can somebody tell me what happens with child support when the person paying child support gets laid off or downsized?
It's different in every state. But in NY you have to show a "material change" in the payor's circumstances to get modification. The change has to be something that was beyond the payor's control (e.g., he/she can't get modification because they took a job that pays less).
res ipsa loquitur
Hopefully something could be worked out with the other parent until the person could get back on their feet. But not everyone is that reasonable, which is why I guess there are family courts and attorneys.
Not to mention apparently unaffected by rising gasoline prices.
I don't own a huge SUV. But today I was filling a tank on fumes, and the pump cut itself off at $35. I had to make another purchase to fill the remainder.
The clerk said that the cutoff was to minimize pump and run theft, and the mechanism hasn't been updated recently,but that the complaints were driving him apeshit.
RIL - Thanks. He definitely had a material change (layoff). I'll google and see if I can find out more.
chris/tx ... He shoud find himself a family lawyer. The law in TX is probably different and there is, of course, a whole lot of nuance ...
They wanted to believe. They needed to believe in the unvarnished sincerity of their leadership after 9/11.
Well, fuck me dead, but I think we all wanted to believe. We all wanted National Dad to say it was gonna be okay and he would kick the asses of those responsible.
Trouble is, then we expected National Dad to go out and do those things, and he didn't, at all, so the bully threatening us is still out there, and all he's taught us is how to hate one another here at home, and I'm fucking sick and tired of being told it's my lack of faith in him that's making him sit on his ass in Crawford eating barbecue or whatever the fuck.
Yo, chickenhawks, if you want to find bin Laden, I'd put down the liberals you keep looking under, cause he ain't there, and every time you hoist some half-wit nobody like Ward Churchill or some easy target like Michael Moore up into the air and act like they're hiding bin Laden up their asses as a personal favor to the man, you just make yourselves look more and more ridiculous.
I know people are pissed about this war and they want to blame somebody, but it wasn't our fault. Republicans have the White House. Republicans have both houses of Congress. Republicans did this and they're going to have to live with it, and whether or not I thought mean things abou the preznit shouldn't cripple our government. And if you think it does, you obviously have even less faith in America than you accuse me of having.
I wanted to believe right along with 90 percent of everybody else who approved of Bush right after 9/11. I thought okay, you've been a layabout all your life and I don't like you much, but let's see if you can rise to the occasion.
Not only did he not rise to the occasion, he took us all with him as he sank into the floor.
A.
YET ANOTHER NEW POLL BACKIN' UP SHEEHAN'S CAUSE
And 87% believe she has every fucking right to protest, regardless of their beliefs about the war.
That's Gordon posting his own info in the hopes someone will contact him and then he can cry some more about the terrible treatment that he gets here.
As far as I know, Gordon is his real life name.
So if it's Gordon, he's trying to get you to harass someone else and if it's someone who thinks they found Gordon it's a fool.
Either way it needs to stop.
child support is income sensative to the paying ex-spouse.
Yeah, but when I practiced family law, judges were extremely suspicious of "changed cirumstances," esp. since so many paying spouses usually try to duck payment altogether.
You need a lawyer, IOW, preferably one who knows how to get around the judicial preference to say "No!"
Hi AM!
Given the timing between when Gordon announced below that he was leaving and when this information suddenly showed up, and how it showed up, I'm pretty sure it's Gordon. First came several teasers: "I have Gordon's info in anyone's interested." No one bit. Finally, somone jokingly said they like to know what state he was in or something and then, pow, the info got posted. Now, it's being posted up here, as well. Gordon's been crying about how badly he gets treated here, you know, after he shows up and calls women cunts. You may be right, but my money's on Gordon himself as the source. He can't stand not to be the center of attention for even a few minutes.
Hopefully something could be worked out with the other parent until the person could get back on their feet. But not everyone is that reasonable, which is why I guess there are family courts and attorneys.
Stinky | 08.27.05 - 6:04 pm | #
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i think in most states, child support is an agreement between you and the state. not an agreement between you and your ex.
I wanted to believe right along with 90 percent of everybody else who approved of Bush right after 9/11. I thought okay, you've been a layabout all your life and I don't like you much, but let's see if you can rise to the occasion.
Not only did he not rise to the occasion, he took us all with him as he sank into the floor.
Amen, A. That's pretty much what Slate said the other day...
In any case, how could Tenant not think these fuckers would throw him to the wolves? I expect more saavy from an NYC boy, I guess.
res ipsa loquitur -- 6:04 pm
whom the gods will destroy, first they privilege?
and he did get that nice, shiny medal of freedom, and a nice retirement...
it's not like he was ever gone have lunch in intelligence town again, is it...
he worked, and covered, for bushevik horrors; he's immune to ignomy and infamy...
Is this thing on?
Hell, I gotta force myself out into the heat to take Melissa something to eat.
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I can't say that I ever believed that Dear Leader would act in good faith, but I never in my wildest nightmares thought he would &%$# up as badly as he has.
In any case, how could Tenant not think these fuckers would throw him to the wolves? I expect more saavy from an NYC boy, I guess.
res ipsa loquitur
embedded in that arguement is also the "blame clinton" thing h=that is making the rounds
he got his medal for providing them a reason to balme clinton when the shit got too hot (like now=ish)
maybe the chickenhawk gene isn't recessive?
What Athenae said.
Tena/Olaf/Focus - Thanks guys, I will tell him to get a lawyer instead of trying to plead for himself. I just didn't understand how you could go from making a 100k/yr to zero, and be expected to pay the same child support. With the changed circumstances the court will probably give him some relief.
and he did get that nice, shiny medal of freedom, and a nice retirement...
My integrity and reputation mean more to me than some medal. They mean more to me than money, too.
It really does come down to having no shame, doesn't it? Shame is not a concept that exists in our society anymore.
That was sweet.
Billy B | Email | 08.27.05 - 6:02 pm | #
That was the Editors from The Poor Man Institute for Freedom and Democracy and a Pony.
The Editors are always good.
hi agave! say hi to melissa for me!
This is totally and completely beyond the fucking pale.
It may be beyond the pale, but it sure got rid of the little fucker, didn't it.
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Mitt forget about it...
I got my bullshit deflectors on.
"I will fight in a war to defend our freedom,
I ain;t dying without a good reason."
-my 22 year old son
What Athenae said.
Ditto
So well and for so many.
Ntodd, that is a good Slate story.
I really, really, really wish Democrats would turn this year's maudlin We Support Your Tasty Freedom Funnel Cakes Fest or whatever the fuck it is into a great big Where's Bin Laden Seminar.
Because I think that might be the one area where Repubs haven't exactly hammered out all the Baddest Guy In Town territory. It's one area where Dems could easily be tougher than Republicans, because Republicans ain't done shit about him.
Which scares the living hell out of me, speaking as a girl whose friends all work within a block of the Sears Tower.
A.
hi agave! say hi to melissa for me!
Olaf glad and big
Hi. I said Hey! up thread.
Will do.
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""Do you agree with Cindy Sheehan?"
~YES: 73%
of course the intrepid dems are all over this.
Oh hell. Just make sure Romney's kids' local Selective Service Board is fully staffed. What's the problem?
Thanks.
Thanks.
""Do you agree with Cindy Sheehan?"
~YES: 73%
of course the intrepid dems are all over this.
gary in fl
Why do I think Dems are afraid of being "anti-war" if they even say Cindy Sheehan's name within 10 feet of a journalist?
And oh yes, I'm going to say it. A two year Mormon mission is not the same thing as serving the United States of America in the military.
Given the timing between when Gordon announced below that he was leaving and when this information suddenly showed up, and how it showed up, I'm pretty sure it's Gordon.
In that case, maybe it's someone Gordon wants harassed. Maybe the person knows Gordon and ought to be called and told that Gordon is giving his personal information out on the internets so that the person can deal with Gordon on his own terms.
Minor point - Mitt is George Romney's nephew, not son
hopeless pedant | Email | 08.27.05 - 6:03 pm | #
Uh..no. He's George's son.
I really, really, really wish Democrats would turn this year's maudlin We Support Your Tasty Freedom Funnel Cakes Fest or whatever the fuck it is into a great big Where's Bin Laden Seminar.
PLAYING POLITICS! PLAYING POLITICS!
I got my bullshit deflectors on.
And how about this one. Just picked up the mail and my 19 year old son got an invitation to join the Army. In the brochure that touts free gift mind you is a pull out mini poster if you will that says: Serve for a short time. BE PROUD For a Lifetime. uh huh.
and how it showed up, I'm pretty sure it's Gordon.
It is Gordon, you are correct. Very first link under a Google search for that particular name is Gordon's blog calling him a stalker, and generally being dicks about him;
http://dogsnot.net/mt/archives/0...ves/
000654.html
This was in 2004. And now here he is, not letting it lie again, by encouraging people here to harass him as if he was Gordon... which of course, if anything he's claimed is even true, is only likely to set him off further against Gordon when he realises why he's being bothered...
So why not go to Gordon's own blog and point out what a fat fucking hypocrite he is, eh?
PLAYING POLITICS! PLAYING POLITICS!
I know, but maybe we could get Paul Hackett to do it or something. Because he'd just turn around and say, "Oh, fuck off already, you big pussies."
*luffs Hackett*
A.
What, did Gordon finally flip out?
He is one of- if not *the*- most loathsome trools ever, just based on the way he refers to the women here.
And the rest of his shtick is pretty low-rent too...
poor Mitt Romney has no control over his sons' lives
True, but the point is that he's never encouraged them to sign up. My son's 31; I don't have any control over his life, either. But I encourage him regularly to sign petitions, show up with me at demonstrations, boycott products, donate to candidates, etc. Whether he does or doesn't is up to him, but it would be pretty hypocritical of me to say other people should show up and demonstrate but that my son shouldn't bother.
I really, really, really wish Democrats would turn this year's maudlin We Support Your Tasty Freedom Funnel Cakes Fest or whatever the fuck it is into a great big Where's Bin Laden Seminar.
PLAYING POLITICS! PLAYING POLITICS!
NTodd
Yeah, A, it's like you want the Dems to be partisan, or something.
And we all know there's nothing worse than partisan politics.....
hey, gwpda! i heard you want to canada. are you back? how was it anyway?
I really, really, really wish Democrats would turn this year's maudlin We Support Your Tasty Freedom Funnel Cakes Fest or whatever the fuck it is into a great big Where's Bin Laden Seminar.
I have no idea what the "... Funnel Cakes Fest" refers to, but I've suddenly acquired a powerful urge to head out to Pennsylvania Dutch country.
Perhaps I will replace my "rose window" gravatar with a hex sign.
Athenae:
as a long-time layabout, i protest your so lackadaisically dripping me and my fellow layabouts in the shit that is all-things-bush (ATB).
i would remind you that many of those who proudly bear the label of 'layabout' have, in odd and rare moments actually accomplished things, without threatening to gleefully preside over the demise of all that last tiny chinchilla of what it was that was/is great, good, clean and pure...
it occurred to me today that a bumpersticker/billboard/netad of some subtlety, complexity of implicature and anaphorae, and great humor could be created from the juxtaposition of the chimp, the yellow elephant logo, and the word "Irrelephant!"
on the house...
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Hey, olav g&b, how are you liking Alburquerque?
GWPDA - And oh yes, I'm going to say it. A two year Mormon mission is not the same thing as serving the United States of America in the military.
Well no shit - who was claiming it was? That's just totally fucked up.
Minor point - Mitt is George Romney's nephew, not son
hopeless pedant | Email | 08.27.05 - 6:03 pm | #
Uh..no. He's George's son.
Dee | Email | Homepage | 08.27.05 - 6:14 pm | #
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with mormons it's hard to keep track sometimes.
with mormons it's hard to keep track sometimes.
Olaf glad and big
HIyo!
btw,
if anyone has or knows of link to Frank Lautenberg's (D-Rocksville)floor speech calling out the chickenhawks it is def. worth a look and would be greatly appriciated as a repost.
What, did Gordon finally flip out?
He is one of- if not *the*- most loathsome trools ever, just based on the way he refers to the women here.
He evidently has never learned that that good lovin' is a giving process and not a taking one.
oh
yeah
didn't you go to alberta GWDPA?
It's a class thing. R