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HA HA HA HA HA YOU LIBERASL ARE LOOSERS IM FIRST
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For fucks sake, SLOW DOWN!!!!
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These threads are starting to remind me of SF MUNI buses. You wait an hour, then six of them come in a row.
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actually, atrios, i wonder if the real watchdogs will be the bloggers and netziens following all the details.
we've got people like our own otter and kyle over at americablog on the ground, providing relief and getting things done that the fema folks still can't seem to manage.
this is a metastory for sure, and i think it's going to take more than just a cadre of dc based reporters interested in occasionally slumming in an adventure zone to cover all the details right.
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The much anticipated land grab is actually going to be a lot tougher than the external folks planned I'm afraid. One of the places that sustained a great deal of damage were the New Orleans Notarial Archives where all property records are kept - and without which no deed can be executed.
They did manage to save some of the historical stuff, like receipts written by Jean Lafitte, but - it's going to be damned difficult to transfer property in New Orleans for a long time. Napoleonic Code, don't you know.
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HOPEFULLY NEW OLREANS WILL RISE AGAIN OUT OF THE WATERS AND LIKE THE PHOENIX OF LEGGEND SHE WILL END UP IN ARIZONA
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The Garden District and the French Quarter and anywhere there is a big hotel -- I guess they will just have the workers live on barges on Lake Polluted
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" You'll be the only watchdog for this."
lol
this is right up there with that dog tags remark from before.
are bloggers really this self important?
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he means the media you mental midget.
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$52 Billion and probably more to come? Let the real looting begin.
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There are going to be land grabs and corruption and bribery and efforts by the NO elite to keep the poor from returning.
What, they're not all going to want to stay in the Astrodome? I thought that was working so much better for them.
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it's going to be damned difficult to transfer property in New Orleans for a long time. Napoleonic Code, don't you know.
That's where the Supreme Court decision about "imminent domain" will come in quite handy.
Paging Chief Justice Roberts, your payback is due....
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pant...pant...pant...can't...keep...up...with... atrios...pant...pant...pant
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And again, at the risk of bein excessively repetitive, we've all got to apply th eappropriate operant conditioning to our respective media outlets for how they cover all of this.
The outrage needs to carry all the way through 2006, so every time the Busheviks try to do something bad, which they most certainly will, we need to be all over our arbiters of the truth like flies on shit demanding that they tell the stroy the way we ant to hear it....
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I would think some kind of buffer zone whether it be a wide swath of park land, non-residential zoned contstruction etc. will be built around the adult amusement park that is the French Quarter so the drunk white guys in for the big sales conference can feel more comfortable stumbling around with their 24 ounce beers.
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Oh I give up!
I can't seem to type fast enough to keep up with this deluge of threads without it becoming unintelligible.
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uncle smokes beat me to it. again, i wonder just how many of us are wholly familiar with all the fine print of the patriot act, various executive orders relating to terra and fema, and of course the implications of the SCOTUS case on domain.
somehow, in this lawless age, i don't see a bunch of displaced poor black folks being successful against boosh supporting corporate necrophile "developers." especially after that rep's quote about god "cleaning out new orleans."
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The Garden District and the French Quarter and anywhere there is a big hotel -- I guess they will just have the workers live on barges on Lake Polluted
Liars for Bush
With a democratic governor and mayor, there's a much better chance that won't happen. Let's just hope they're up to the task of fighting for their people.
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Perhaps we should plan a memorial park in the shape of a huge communion wafer, just to keep the evangelist right frothing.
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not OT, due to the fundamental interconnectedness of all things:
"Michael Brown has done everything he possibly could to coordinate the federal response to this unprecedented challenge," Chertoff told reporters in Baton Rouge, La.
Does Chertoff not realize that he just explained the problem?
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Disney Orleans... here we come!
How do you stop these fuckers?
I think there has to be a movement to get their hands off the levers of power NOW! They are a menace - GWB deserves the ignominy of the longest lame duck period in US history.
They need to be neutered pronto!
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AND LIKE THE
PHOENIX OF LEGGEND SHE WILL END UP IN ARIZONA
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Dude -- assuming you are a dude --
you're a fucking genius.

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THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF TIME TO REBUILK NEW ORLEANS AND DEBATE THE MERITS OF THE RECONSTRUCTION
WE NEED TO DEBATE THAT ISLAMOCOMMIE MEMORIAL IN PENNSALVANIA DAMMIT - ITS AN ATRIOSITY NAD PART OF A WIDER TREND
IT STARTED WITH THAT WOMAN WHO DESIGNED THE VIENTAM MEMORIAL - ITS A V FOR CHRISSAKES AND IT POINTS LIKE A DAGGER AT THE STATE DEPARTMENT
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If the city is to be re-built, I presume a massive reconstruction and improvement of the levee system must occur. Boston's Big Dig cost nearly $20 Billion(?) to improve traffic and liveability. How much to make NO liveable and safe from future floods?
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I'm sure there will be every effort in the world to steal property within New Orleans - probably by some marginally legitimate consortia with unsavory connexions to the Shrubbery.
And I'm sure that various courts will come into play to bolster that effort.
But here's the thing - Louisiana's code of law is not now and has never been English common law nor even American. It is the Napoleonic Code. It overrides, not Washington.
Or, it would, had not the Shrubbery succeeded, however briefly, in federalising LA.
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They can't keep the poor out of NO. Who'll do the work?
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With a democratic governor and mayor, there's a much better chance that won't happen. Let's just hope they're up to the task of fighting for their people.
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and thus we see why nagin and blanco must be villified and held responsible.
follow the money, folks, follow the mohey.
mcmansionville on the horizon in old new orleans. in fact, that's what they will probably call it - "Old New Orleans" - just like my old home town, rochester ny did when they reclaimed the lake front to build "old rochesterville".
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Things like title disputes and rezoning and construction contracts do not attract as many viewers as missing white women. In fact, they probably rank somewhere next to crop reports on the Nielsen scale.
So, I think we all know what to expect.
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Unfortunately, I think that it will also fall once more to the blogosphere to be the ones to count and document the dead. We already know from ICC's work that the Bush Administration will attempt to hide the bodies.
I wrote countless letters to countless news agencies who kept reporting that "50 troops have been killed in action since May 1" even as the number had reached 150. The documentation that ICC provided was invaluable to prove the point and to force a correction. Even the Pravda, NY, Times corrected itself.
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All my charitable donations will go to Habitat For Humanity from here on out...
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They can't keep the poor out of NO. Who'll do the work?
NYMary
illegal imm.... i mean, guest workers
and don't worry about where they will live - the south is quite proficient at housing workers who have no rights as citizens. they've done it before, they'll do it again.
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somehow, in this lawless age, i don't see a bunch of displaced poor black folks being successful against boosh supporting corporate necrophile "developers."
I presume a large percentage of poor folk are renters or living on public assistance. They'll be no problem keeping them "out" especially if a massive levee system makes that real estate "safe" for development.
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A nonprofit group put together a list of toxic chemical sites in New Orleans to help people follow the cleanup.
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Yep, the recount numbers are just in.
Gore +271, Bush -100,000
*Gore saved 271 from NOLA by airlift to Tenn.
*Bush numbers estimated (9/11, Afghan, Iraq, Katrina)
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Dems 50%
Reepers 38%
but the talking heads on MSNBC thought with the helpful media they could recover before the midterm elections --especially Alex Witless MS MSGOP and Marcus Maybry of the Gutless Spineless Newsweek
they certainly will be doing their part to help Mr. Bush.
Including trying to make the low numbers the Katrina effect forgetting he has been in the dumper for months. And they couldn't understand why more people felt he was doing a bad job on homeland security and terrorism --
I guess they are as stupid as they look
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" They can't keep the poor out of NO. Who'll do the work?
NYMary | Email | Homepage | 09.10.05 - 10:53 am | # "
Halliburton at first.
Once that contract dries up, there should be a lot of shiny new shopping malls and Bennigans in place, instead of that depressing low-income housing. Which will provide a lot of gainful employment for teens. Everybody wins!
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AND LIKE THE PHOENIX OF LEGGEND SHE WILL END UP IN ARIZONA
Merkin Patriot
Now THAT made me laugh out loud. Thanks, MERKIN!
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Nagin and Blanco Failed to Execute Their Plan!
As a result 118 N'Awleonians died.
Nagin's black that majority of N'Awleonians dead are white.
Nagin's a racist who hates whites and Balnco's his comarade in arms.
Why do Dems hate whites...and what does this say about Dean?
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Uncle Smokes is right. With the SCOTUS ruling in hand, the powers that be can pretty much build a Vegas strip-style area reasoning that hotels mean jobs. I would look for a wall of hotels surrounding the French Quarter that give a clear line of demarcation between the tourist area and the black folk. Except the Neville Brothers of course. They'll be allowed in. Nothing gets the big annual Exxon/Mobile sales convention rocking like the Neville Brothers.
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NO will be about as exciting as the new Times Square.
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Louisiana's code of law is not now and has never been English common law nor even American. It is the Napoleonic Code.
I read where a large percentage of the NOLA land ownership recording books were ruined in the flood.
I wonder whose property records were on the bottom shelf and whose were up top?
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Things like title disputes and rezoning and construction contracts do not attract as many viewers as missing white women. In fact, they probably rank somewhere next to crop reports on the Nielsen scale.
See CNN homepage for Katrina MWW or Dead WW banner story.
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With a democratic governor and mayor, there's a much better chance that won't happen. Let's just hope they're up to the task of fighting for their people.
That's where the true nature of our political system comes into play--in exchange for not being punished for trumped up blame over Katrina response, and to ensure federal dollars flow, the Governor will have no choice but to roll over.
Remember, the folks at the top are not just shifting blame away from themselves, they have a vested interest in ensuring blame is set to their benefit.
Politicizing Katrina? You bet! Power politics thrive on cataclysm. Republicans have succeeded spectaularly thus far because they seize every tragedy as an opportunity to dismantle existing power.
Operation Protection Racket is gearing up.
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Please, follow the story. You'll be the only watchdog for this.
Don't count on it - not from this current generation of media whores. They are soaked through in blood
and have no chance for redemption.
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THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF TIME TO REBUILK NEW ORLEANS AND DEBATE THE MERITS OF THE RECONSTRUCTION
Merkin Patriot
Hooo Boy, I'm on the floor here...
HAW HAW HAW!
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oops. Looks like GWPDA has had her name stolen.
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Nagin's black that majority of N'Awleonians dead are white.
oh, the counts are done? i hadn't heard that. i guess it would be naive to ask for a link.
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Nagin's black that majority of N'Awleonians dead are white.
oh, the counts are done? i hadn't heard that. i guess it would be naive to ask for a link.
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" They can't keep the poor out of NO. Who'll do the work?
NYMary | Email | Homepage | 09.10.05 - 10:53 am | # "
Plus I believe their going to invoke some "law" that allows paying construction wages less than the local going rate (non-union of course).
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estate developers must be rubbing their hands at the reconstruction.
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They can't keep the poor out of NO. Who'll do the work?
Keep in mind that Bush issued an order on Thursday that allows federal contractors to pay below the prevailing wage.
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The reconstruction has started. I hear that Houston is booming! And Bush abolished the minimum wage guarantees for federal contract workers! And Halliburton has the contract for rebuilding any damaged navy facilities in the area! So we can all just sleep.
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Mister X,
don't you have a life,
dear?
Why do you always slum,
here?
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Plus I believe their going to invoke some "law" that allows paying construction wages less than the local going rate (non-union of course).
Agent Orange
they already have. If you need I can find a link.
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If only we had an administration whose feet were planted on Terra Firma, instead of terra and fema.
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Damn, GWPDA,
I never read upthread too far. Sorry.
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New Orleans continues grim search for the dead as floodwaters recede
NEW ORLEANS, United States (AFP) - Police in New Orleans continued the grisly search for those killed in Hurricane Katrina after a top federal official in charge of disaster relief fell casualty of mounting criticism of the operation.
Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff told journalists in Louisiana state capital Baton Rouge that Federal Emergency Management Agency director Michael Brown was to be recalled to Washington.
He would be replaced at ground zero by Coast Guard Vice Admiral Thad Allen, Chertoff said, while defending Brown's record.
"Hurricane Katrina will go down as the largest natural disaster in American history and Mike has done everything he possibly could to coordinate the federal response to this unprecedented challenge," he said.
Brown had resisted calls to resign over the sluggish federal response to the disaster in which hundreds are feared to have died and billions of dollars' worth of damage sustained to property and infrastructure.
Moonbootica |
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Did anyone see Maher last night?
George Carlin was great, as usual.
WHY does Maher feel obligated to have at least one right wing scumbag on his show? And he says we "cured cancer." When did we miss that?
And I DIDN'T care for the way he was so cavalier about Roe v. Wade being in danger (got a real problem with women, Bill does).
But at the end, I love the way he trashed Chimpy!
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wow, i just read that al gore saving 270 people story....and i'm weeping again to think of what this nation would be like if we'd just had the will to count all the votes in 2000.
speaking of which: who wants to bet a quatloo that the replacement voting technology in NOLA will be from diebold? and just in time to "elect" a cadre of developers and carpetbaggers who are all friendly to boosh in 06?
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Is there room in Saddam's cell for Genocide War Bush?
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NO will be about as exciting as the new Times Square.
ql in ny | Email | Homepage | 09.10.05 - 10:57 am | #
Hey -- the Spin Doctors are playing
BBKing's today!
Talk about excitement!
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You can only carry so many TV sets on your back. But with a stroke of a pen on a reconstruction contract, you can loot without limits.
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Think Blazing Saddles. From Miss to NO, whites will make sure all the good views are theirs. Mixed income housing will be triangular towers with the blacks on the bottom and facing the ocean. Floating raft on Lake P. [soon to be love Canal South] will be for public housing.
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Are they going to rename the city New New Orleans, ala Futurama?
Seeing that the media cannot access the city, how are we supposed to know what's going on? Or, are there embedded reporters with the rescue squads?
This junta has basically declared a media blackout on anything that it's responsible for. It's only relegated to photo-op's and PR moves. It's as if they run the government like a business.
Wait...wasn't that the plan all along?
Corporate fucks.
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Al Gore is a better human being than George Bush can ever hope to be.
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GWPDA, ompleteca ncompoopia | Email | 09.10.05 - 10:56 am | #
Huh????????
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If you're going to steal GWPDA's name, please at least have the decency to attempt emulate an erudite post.
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Louisiana's code of law is not now and has never been English common law nor even American. It is the Napoleonic Code.
Interesting factoid: The Dominican Republic recently reworked its entire code of law, which had been Napoleonic (interesting story as to why) to more closely match the USA model. The implementation has been a disaster.
One of the alleged reasons for doing this was that the US put pressure on them to "modernize" their legal system and improve the investment climate, but I don't know how Napoleonic procedure affects such things.
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Executive Order rescinding prevailing wage laws.
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"See CNN homepage for Katrina MWW or Dead WW banner story.
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I thought you were being sarcastic =
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NO will be about as exciting as the new Times Square.
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NOLA will be a giant corporate/industrial park with a Times Square-style NOLA theme park in the center.
Because its primary purpose will be for business, it will get a state-of-the-art levy system.
You watch.
The people shipped off to (now) all 50 states in the union? They ain't going back to NOLA.
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Are they going to rename the city New New Orleans, ala Futurama?
remember dirk the omnipotent declares: "Old New Orleans".
Wait...wasn't that the plan all along?
Yes.
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Skipping down the thread for now to post this:
AND LIKE THE PHOENIX OF LEGGEND SHE WILL END UP IN ARIZONA
That's got to be one of the best you ever came up with Merkin.
Gawjus.
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NOLA will end up like the London Docklands.
souless and locals priced out.
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The reconstruction has started. I hear that Houston is booming! And Bush abolished the minimum wage guarantees for federal contract workers!
What is rationale for paying less? Clearly it's pure shameless exploitation! Why isn't this a story?
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Following on my last post, one of the major unreported stories out there is how globalization is forcing countries to homogenize their legal systems and economic policies to meet the demands of the USA and the EU.
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when the london docklands were rebuilt all the yuppies move in.
litte or nothing was done for the locals.
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And about that death count --
it's less but no one can say how much less
This is a FEMA responsibility and the
press is barred from the crews (out of respect for the dead they either killed or left on the streets the last 11 days)
No numbers being released in Mississippi at all although some have said all the bodies have been picked up. So what's the story here?
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The people shipped off to (now) all 50 states in the union? They ain't going back to NOLA.
res ipsa loquitur
Casinos need cleaning women and dishwashers. They'll bring back who they NEED and pay shit wages.
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And Bush abolished the minimum wage guarantees for federal contract workers!
There's no doubt he would love to get rid of the wage guarantees everywhere, permanently.
And the environmental protection requirements he's lifted from the oil producers? They'll be in place for the rest of his reign, you can be sure.
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Please, press, both local and national, do your job following the saga of the reconstruction of New Orleans
The local press will probably stay with the story.
But what about reconstruction in Mississippi and Alabama? Has Trent Lott yet received the portion of our tax dollars that he needs to rebuild his beachfront house?
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"And I DIDN'T care for the way he was so cavalier about Roe v. Wade being in danger (got a real problem with women, Bill does)."
Terry C, I agree. Bill's got some issues.
The only positive that could possibly come out of the overturning of Roe v. Wade is that it would be the end of GOP as we know it. The religious fanatics who push them over the top in elections would not be as fired up by any other topic and would not come to the polls in anywhere near the numbers they do when they think they're stopping baby murder.
Everything else about the overturning of Roe v. Wade would be a nightmare.
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I do believe there will be a strong movement to keep NOLA from being reconstructed as a theme park.
The city was unique and I think there are people who will insist that the fundamental things that made it unique not be further degraded, though I can see it's going to be one battle after another.
And that doesn't account for the evacuees - they are the poorest for the most part - how are they going to come back? What can they come back to?
goddamn it goddamn it goddamn it.
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Plus I believe their going to invoke some "law" that allows paying construction wages less than the local going rate (non-union of course).
Agent Orange
they already have. If you need I can find a link.
Bush signed a proclamation to waive legal reqs where wages for rebuilding the disaster area are concerned.
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And I DIDN'T care for the way he was so cavalier about Roe v. Wade being in danger (got a real problem with women, Bill does).
Putting aside whether he has problems with the chicks I don't think he was being cavalier. He was saying that 2000 and 2004 were probably the final nails in the coffin of Roe v. Wade, and that the red staters will get what they voted for, and any hardship visited upon their families as a result will be deserved. In a perverse way, it proves the adage: democracy gives the people the government they deserve.
But at the end, I love the way he trashed Chimpy!
That final bit where he tallied what's been lost under this regime was excellent. Short and to the point.
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Following on my last post, one of the major unreported stories out there is how globalization is forcing countries to homogenize their legal systems and economic policies to meet the demands of the USA and the EU.
Sinclair First
Did you read Jonathan's Kozol's piece in this month's Harpers. It is now the stated goal in education to train our kids for the new, improved globalized business world. And they are doing it by standardizing everything from the teaching of reading to how kids walk in the hall, or "filing" as it is called. The result being the killing every last spark of imagination in both the kids and the teachers.
It's way to early to start drinking.
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While waiting for his military flight back to Washington, the FEMA chief accused journalists of rushing to judgment and passing rumors off as fact.
``I'm anxious to get back to D.C. to correct all the inaccuracies and lies,'' he said.
Goddamn! You've got your hands full.
Start with Chimpy, and work your way down.
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Bush signed a proclamation
Edicts and decrees to follow shortly.
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Bush - the Genocide Preznit.
Both here AND abroad.
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All my charitable donations will go to Habitat For Humanity from here on out...
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Me, too.
And President Gore rises to the occasion once again. Do you think we can re-elect him in 2008?
Finally, to Atrios' point (and I'm also having a hard time keeping up with all these threads), the press has to stay focused on this story, and we have to stay focused on them and put as much pressure on them as we can. We all preach to the choir here (our stupid little trolls notwithstanding), but most people out there really don't have clue what's going on.
The press also has to monitor itself. I sent Little Johnnie Stossel's column praising price gouging to Krugman (after thanking him for showing up last Saturday) ... I would love to see him tear it to shreds.
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Now listen. Did you ever hear of the Napoleonic code, Stella?... Now just let me enlighten you on a point or two... Now we got here in the state of Louisiana what's known as the Napoleonic code. You see, now according to that, what belongs to the wife belongs to the husband also, and vice versa... It looks to me like you've been swindled baby. And when you get swindled under Napoleonic code, I get swindled too and I don't like to get swindled... Where's the money if the place was sold?
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Completely OT, but I thought people might be interested: I just uploaded 19 pics from Feral Liberal to the EschaCon2005 photo album. There is no semblance of order at the moment, not to mention any captions yet, but I'll be cleaning things up over the next week or so. If anybody else has pics and no place to put them, feel free to forward to me and I'll post them.
Also, you might not have seen that the National Journal also provided some EschaCon coverage. Hey, that's kinda on topic because we did talk about Katrina a lot...
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WHY does Maher feel obligated to have at least one right wing scumbag on his show? And he says we "cured cancer." When did we miss that?
I get the impression he thinks it makes him "open-minded" and "worldly" in a pretentious Hugh Heffner-in-a-smoking jacket reading an anthology of great American authors sort of way.
I like Maher overall, but there are times I want to smack his stupid bitch ass, like when he said there was "no difference between Bush and Gore". And his claim on Roe not getting overturned? Wrong again, Bill. Just wait and see what happens, like when you supported Nader.
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Putting aside whether he has problems with the chicks I don't think he was being cavalier.
"chicks"??????????????????
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Casinos need cleaning women and dishwashers. They'll bring back who they NEED and pay shit wages.
Like the Hamptons and Nantucket and Hilton Head, those folks won't live there, for God's sake. They commute in ... some for hours.
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Speaking of Harper's, here's a link to an article the mag is running on the Web called The Uses of Disaster.
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A survivor's story
“It’s their own fault, really. Why didn’t those people just evacuate when they had the chance?” I overheard one woman saying to another in the line at the grocery store. I shielded my face with a box of frozen waffles and pretended to read the National Enquirer while I eavesdropped some more.
She, like many, was convinced that what we’re seeing on the 6 o’ clock news is merely Darwinism in action. And the unfit are not surviving.
Unfit people, like single mom Mabel Brown.
Mabel wanted to leave but couldn’t get gas for her aging car, all the stations were closed. A New Orleans newcomer who had just moved there from Atlanta, Mabel’s instincts told her to take the $20 dollars she had in cash and get out. But her sisters had lived in New Orleans for years. And they told her hurricanes were scary but if they had candles they would be okay.
continues at http://www.forgetperfect.com/col...s/
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I guess I need a better sarcasm tag.
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I like Maher overall, but there are times I want to smack his stupid bitch ass
Stinky
I've never liked his misogyny.
And if he wasn't rich and famous, these bimbos he likes so much wouldn't look his way twice.
The reason he dates these centerfolds and models is because he couldn't deal with a smart woman. She might disagree with him!
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Following on my last post, one of the major unreported stories out there is how globalization is forcing countries to homogenize their legal systems and economic policies to meet the demands of the USA and the EU.
And CAFTA is just another in a series of agreements that amount to a Declaration of Independence for transnational corporations.
For the country that birthed them, it's "Thanks, Goodbye!"
All the right-wing blowhards that fussed over the decades about the United Nations taking away our sovergnity have abrogated it to corporate needs and investor rights.
Short-term gain for those in power, as they are thus invested--but who will the investors of the future be?
Welcome to 2050, when China decides that some of our laws are endangering their portfolio and are thus negated.
[Today's tinfoil hat is tomorrow's helmet]
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Best way to keep an eye on things is to make sure the all the Demos that run the Parishes are kept out...
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is kelo going to be used to grab the property in the low-lying areas of new orleans.
how do the people who owned homes there prove it. they've been scattered across the country, without any documentation. they are working class and without means to fight the guilded interests who are swooping in as i write this. check out the background scenes of live shots from new orleans. you will see the consultant and industry men just laying in wait for those fema check writers.
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WHY does Maher feel obligated to have at least one right wing scumbag on his show? And he says we "cured cancer." When did we miss that?
Which right wing scumbag did he have on last night?
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Before we berate CNN too much for their focus on white women:
HOUSTON, Texas (CNN) -- Rather than fight a lawsuit by CNN, the federal government abandoned its effort Saturday to prevent the media from reporting on the recovery of the dead in New Orleans.
Joint Task Force Katrina "has no plans to bar, impede or prevent news media from their news gathering and reporting activities in connection with the deceased Hurricane Katrina victim recovery efforts," said Col. Christian E. deGraff, representing the task force.
At least they stepped up to the plate on this one.
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She, like many, was convinced that what we’re seeing on the 6 o’ clock news is merely Darwinism in action. And the unfit are not surviving.
This is the Bush Regime's version of the Final Solution.
Bush - the Genocide Preznit, both here AND abroad.
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"chicks"??????????????????
Biddies?
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And Bush abolished the minimum wage guarantees for federal contract workers!
What exactly does this implyu? THat workers will have to work for less than minimum wage? Or that skilled workers will be paid minimum wage?
Good luck getting anyone down there either way.
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If you're going to steal GWPDA's name, please at least have the decency to attempt emulate an erudite post.
If you're going to write stupid stuff under my name please make sure to include the link to my phenomenonly successful and erudite web site.
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Best way to keep an eye on things is to make sure the all the Demos that run the Parishes are kept out...
That sure ranks up there as one of the stupidest troll comments ever.
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has no plans to bar, impede or prevent news media from their news gathering and reporting activities in connection with the deceased Hurricane Katrina victim recovery efforts,"
They'll just do a better job of hiding the corpses. GOd, thats a sick thought.
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WHY does Maher feel obligated to have at least one right wing scumbag on his show? And he says we "cured cancer." When did we miss that?
Which right wing scumbag did he have on last night?
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Some jerkoff named Glassman, I believe, from the American Enterprise Institute.
He got all huffy when Kurt Vonnegut said this was the stupidest country on earth.
Kurt also trashed Bush. I was sitting there cheering every word.
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People are acting as if a much lower death toll is a bad thing, somehow. It's not. And NO is a great test case for relacing a lot of rotted wood structures with the wonders of PLASTICS, as long as the oil holds out. I wish Habitat for Humanity would be selected to design and oversee new housing for the poor.
Why are Texans so Toxic?
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is kelo going to be used to grab the property in the low-lying areas of new orleans.
Good Q. I'm willing to bet that most of the poor people did not own their homes. So the Kelo Q will depend on who the landlords are. Are they powerful people who were also slumlords? Or are they your average joe, who can be pushed around by Kelo?
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If you're going to write stupid stuff under my name please make sure to include the link to my phenomenonly successful and erudite web site.
I encourage trolls to write stupid stuff under my name on the condition that they buy me a pony.
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Just as many doctors have responded to this crisis -lawyers everywhere should adopt a client in NO to make sure their property rights and rights to receive compensation are protected --particularly their right to return. A lot of people were shipped off with nothing and a one way ticket and they are far away.
If you have evacuees in your hometown make sure they are getting proper legal advice and all that they are entitled to
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Gilliard nails it:
...What surprised me about Kanye West's statement is not that he said it, but that it took the White House a week to understand how poisionous it was to Bush. Not only because of the racial animus, hell, it allowed white people to say what they were thinking as well, people like Ted Koppel and Anderson Cooper, but because it allowed people to say Bush didn't care about anyone. And it took a week for Bush to respond, while his wife called the greatest natural disaster in American history Corrina. Yeah, I bet you get Xanax and Merlot right. You don't call it Zantrax.
If the Bushes were looking to seem more out of touch than normal, they wildly succeeded.
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vonnegut's great. was too shy to introduce myself, but he was at the premier of the 'hunting of the president' movie.
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Best way to keep an eye on things is to make sure the all the Demos that run the Parishes are kept out...
That sure ranks up there as one of the stupidest troll comments ever.
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Which is saying something because they are ALL stupid!
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...and ABC was obviously ignoring the edict to not show dead bodies during the news last night. They were showing dozens around the city. I'm not sure I wanted to actually see that. Gruesome as hell but I'm glad they are showing the reality.
Thanks for posting all the pics NTodd.
.. and thanks for the CD Uncle Smokes. Love it.
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The reason he dates these centerfolds and models is because he couldn't deal with a smart woman. She might disagree with him!
Well, Terry, the implication there is that smart women can't also be beautiful and that beautiful women can't also be smart. Not true.
Maher probably goes out with models because like many men in the public eye, he needs his arm candy to prove his manhood/economic status to other men.
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OT:
"Predictions of 10,000 deaths turn out to be greatly exaggerated," I heard some asswipe anchor on TV say yesterday
Today's papers are filled with stories walking-back the death-toll predictions.
It's almost as if this item had shown up as yesterday's GOP talking point, and the media are doing their stenographic duty.
I hate to be cynical, but could this "story" - plus the attempt to keep the news media from witnessing the bodies - be a serious Rovian to cover up the damage from Katrina? Were these guys actually hoping to hide the real numbers from the public?
I still say the death toll will be 10,000, whether they lie about it or not.
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I wish Habitat for Humanity would be selected to design and oversee new housing for the poor.
Halliburton couldn't make any money that way.
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Merkin Patriot :
THERE'S NO NEED TO SHOUT! Turn off your caps lock. We already know you can't type, spell, or think. Could you please quiet down.
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Hey, Smokes -
Listening to the CD right now!
WAY cool.
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I loved George Carlin last night. I also loved when Glassman tried to call Carlin a Commy and Carlin shot back with the Fascism line. Glassman seemed totally clueless about how Carlin could call him a Nazi. Unitl Bill clarified it by saying that Fascism is when Corporations are the government, to which Glassman quickly changed the subject.
And being an English major, I LOVED KURT!!! How cool and wonderful is that man???
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i'm suprise Bush is not going 100% and employing slave labour to rebuilt NOLA!
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I encourage trolls to write stupid stuff under my name on the condition that they buy me a pony.
Look, what's it gonna be? A pony or a computerized telescope?
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The just released Newsweek poll is remarkable for the beating it gives Bush.
All the numbers rebuke Rove, like approving the country's direction, at lower than 30%, and Bush's approval at a record plummet of 38 %.
The AP's morning poll was similarly lamentable for Bush lovers, but Newsweek's is much worse.
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Latest FaBlog: Anyone Can Whistle(blow)
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most of the displaced poor will not return to NOLA - why should they? They were there because poor cannot afford to move...but now that they have been helped out of NOLA, they won't come back...New NOLA is gonna be teh lamerZ cause the soul of NOLA is what - rich white restaurant owners...or maybe - just maybe the soul of NOLA was made up mostly of the poor - those street performers and artists - the voodoo goddesses and teh cajun cooks all over...teh rich white gentrified masses are losers and have no soul - and that you can bet is what NOLA will be made of when it rises!
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He got all huffy when Kurt Vonnegut said this was the stupidest country on earth.
I'm glad he was on Maher. He is somebody America needs to hear from more frequently.
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The reason he dates these centerfolds and models is because he couldn't deal with a smart woman. She might disagree with him!
Well, Terry, the implication there is that smart women can't also be beautiful and that beautiful women can't also be smart. Not true.
Maher probably goes out with models because like many men in the public eye, he needs his arm candy to prove his manhood/economic status to other men.
Brooklyn Girl
I'm sure the dingdongs HE picks aren't smart.
And just because they're models and centerfolds doesn't mean they're beautiful. A lot of them are skanks....all silicone and hair dye!
I just get the impression that he's afraid of women with working brains. He even talks down to the ones on his show.
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WHY does Maher feel obligated to have at least one right wing scumbag on his show?
It creates tension, which helps draw in viewers. As for myself, I like that he does put them on, because almost invariably they end up saying something that's patently stupid.
One of the great things about this blog is that it constantly points out the underlying idiocy and ugliness that lies beneath the fancy "whoosh" graphics and slick production values of the right wing message machine.
As long as Fox keeps paying tongue-tied appeasing twits to serve as fodder for the likes of Hannity and O'Reilly, I'm happy to have dumbass conservatives shoot themselves in the foot on Real Time.
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the soul of NOLA was made up mostly of the poor - those street performers and artists - the voodoo goddesses and teh cajun cooks all over...teh rich white gentrified masses are losers and have no soul - and that you can bet is what NOLA will be made of when it rises!
mogwai
Isn't Marie Leveau buried in New Orleans?
The Bush Regime be messin' with forces they know nothing about!
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Casinos need cleaning women and dishwashers. They'll bring back who they NEED and pay shit wages.
Two words: "guest worker"
A new age dawns for importing Mexican workers for sub-minimum wage and no benefits, and this model of flexible labor and economic efficiency expands and expands.
U.S. workers will learn to get less for their labors, just to ensure a minimum of survival.
Operation Third World Conversion has just been repurposed.
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Carlin shot back with the Fascism line. Glassman seemed totally clueless about how Carlin could call him a Nazi. Unitl Bill clarified it by saying that Fascism is when Corporations are the government, to which Glassman quickly changed the subject.
Lemme guess..............9/11?
9/11 is ShrubCo's relief pitcher and he's thrown his arm out from overuse.
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".teh rich white gentrified masses are losers and have no soul"
writes one rich white gentrified loser.
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Maher probably goes out with models because like many men in the public eye, he needs his arm candy to prove his manhood/economic status to other men.
Bill Maher is short.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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