I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Frist
AP putting out Katrina timeline that blurs reality of Bush inaction.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/katri...zkxBHNlYwN0bQ--
Hurricane Katrina changed everything.
Oopsie.
these wingnuts are totally and utterly insane
The shit's getting so surreal anymore, that I'm looking forward to albertchampion to tell me what's next...
Oh, I needed that laugh!
.
so when the actual Moon is a cresent it is being controlled by the 'islamofascists'?
On the other hand, I think there are a lot of southerners who would find sharia law much to their liking.
I always liked the SC state flag.
Can we no longer eat crescent rolls at dinner? And are croissants doubly bad?
so Bin Laden now controls the moon!
so when the actual Moon is a cresent it is being controlled by the 'islamofascists'?
Well, they *are* lunatics, after all.
And are croissants doubly bad?
NTodd
They're Dolby bad.
And now we understand why "moonbat" is such a devastating epithet.
" Can we no longer eat crescent rolls at dinner? "
They're called Freedom Rolls now, k?
Why do semi-circles hate America? :~(
It's all adding up.
bin Laden controls Moon, who owns Washington Times and controls G.H.W. Bush.
Oh fer crying out loud....what the
fuck is wrong with these people?
I'm sorry that's not particularly
insightful, but I feel like I
just got hit in the head with a two
by four.
NTodd: And are croissants doubly bad?
Just to be sure, I only bought the mini ones @ Sam's Club. They're kinda football-shaped... like the world.
.
Why does the moon hate America?
MYOB'
.
I'm sorry that's not particularly
insightful, but I feel like I
just got hit in the head with a two
by four.
Yeah, I know. I'm just sickle of this ridiculous bullshit.
"I'm sorry that's not particularly
insightful, but I feel like I
just got hit in the head with a two
by four.
steve simels | Email | 09.10.05 - 2:35 pm | # "
Ya drink MD 20/20 for lunch, that's what happens!
Cheney on CNN just now "with every storm we'll learn more". Hurricans hitting parts of the US coast at this time of year is not a new phenomenon.
Perhaps he meant "with each storm we'll learn just how inet and unprepared this Adminsitration really is".
Just to be sure, I only bought the mini ones @ Sam's Club. They're kinda football-shaped... like the world.
This new learning amazes me, Sir Bedevere.
I think by now most of us have seen the pictures of the school buses under water in a parking lot somewhere in NO.
Has anyone heard an explaination for that?
I swear to god I'm not trolling here - I keep hearing "the buses, the buses!" I don't know that loading 2,000 people on those wouldnt've made a hell of a lot of difference, but it'd be nice to know if there was a good reason for that.
They will do absolutely anything to keep the subject away from w and his many fuck ups.
I can't stand Dick.
Screw the Democratic party and their Chairman. They are all corporate whores just like Bush. The party should be blocking everything that Bush does and calling for impeachment for the twin disasters of Iraq and New Orleans.
Have to go. But want to say, I enjoyed meeting Steve Simmel & Athena (saw you're both here) at Eschacon. NOTED: Athena is quite a babe & I say this in a nonsexist (implicitly sexist) sort of way.
And are croissants doubly bad?
The chocolate ones are.
Eli: This new learning amazes me, Sir Bedevere.
There may have been some sidelong pop culture reference in my comment... but I can never be sure, these days. Low blood sugar, an' all...
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I can't stand Dick.
*bites tongue*
What -- no mention of the Islamic Republic of Pillsbury? For decades, they've been putting out (gasp) rolls shaped like crescents!
Cheney on CNN just now "with every storm we'll learn more".
With every election we'll learn less.
why do I feel the sudden urge to turn around and moon these people?
these wingnuts would be the same who would of believe there was a commie under every bed.
except now it has switched to 'islamofascists' 
instead of red under the bed, its cresent under the bed 
Carter -- right back at you!
What a great damn weekend!
Sal P- no gas, no drivers, no keys, no organization. Pick one.
And Steve: I arose at 4:00 a.m. and started sewing at 5:00 a.m. I worked pretty steadily till around 10:00 or eleven. Even missed a thread or two .
This evening we will take my daughter out for some great northern Italian cuisine with a fine peasanty red wine. That's why I'm here instead of enjoying the great outdoors, which are highly overrated to my citified mind.
We should respond to the bus claim by showing any number -- thousands or millions -- of military vehicles parked in nearby states during the catastrophe.
Or parked in Iraq.
I don't have an opinion about the mayor's performance; he's not my mayor. But competently or otherwise, he at least WORKED AND TRIED to do something.
Same goes for the governor.
Guitar boy didn't do squat until Shepard Smith's "WTF."
This new learning amazes me, Sir Bedevere.
Incidently your Majesty , this is how we know the earth to be banana shaped
It's a reflex by now
And are croissants doubly bad?
Almond Croissants are wicked doncha know!
Cheney on CNN just now "with every storm we'll learn more".
And with every storm, he'll get richer.
Cheney on CNN just now "with every storm we'll learn more".
Cheney just saw his bank balance.
Cheney on CNN just now "with every storm we'll learn more".
And with every storm, he'll get richer.
And Leon is getting laaarrrrger...
if South Carolina is an Islamic Republic does that put Steve Spurrier in the role of Hakim?
"instead of red under the bed, its cresent under the bed
Moonbootica | Email | Homepage | 09.10.05 - 2:39 pm | # "
Are you now, or have you ever been, an Islamofascist?!
The Onion may have discovered that Rumsfeld is a mullah mole:
Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld greeted his wife ... with an unanticipated visit to her vagina... Secretary Rumsfeld's busy schedule and demanding obligations have prevented him from visiting the fertile crescent since last November's highly publicized surprise visit.
sheep's bladders.
earthquakes.
'nuff said.
so when will the blacklisting start?
and show trials?
Next: Fundies protesting in front of the capital building in Columbia, SC.
Once again, the left ignores counterarguments to the fact that they want to honor the Flight 93 hijackers.
Why is Bush's support so high? 38, 39%.
Iraq was not only based on a lie, but is a failure. Its a de facto Islamic State already.
Katrina shows they are not capable of dealing with the sort of massive WMD terror strike that Bush used to scare people into voting for him. Whats he got left that he has actually done? nothing!
sheep's bladders.
earthquakes.
'nuff said.
Great. Now the administration is going to outlaw sheep's bladders, and will send in what's left of the National Guard to remove them all from San Francisco.
i think the South Carolinians should be more concerned with the hurricane heading straight at 'em.
...no gas, no drivers, no keys, no organization. Pick one.
You know, if they had just turned those buses over to the National Guard, they could have taken care of all th--
Ohwaitaminnit...
Once again, the left ignores counterarguments to the fact that they want to
honor the Flight 93 hijackers.
Gary Ruppert | Homepage | 09.10.05 - 2:43 pm | #
What the fuck are you talking
about?
Watertiger--Ophelia does seem to be headed that way.
A leftist loony a bit posting here earlier: "I still say the death toll will be 10,000, whether they lie about it or not." And you laugh at me?
You folks are really gonna be pissed off when NOLA gets put back together and folks move back (even the poor ones). Heh?
Whats he got left that he has actually done? nothing!
Tax cuts for the rich, and deregulation and welfare for corporations.
With all that extra money, they're bound to be extra-generous to the Katrina relief effort.
Next: Fundies protesting in front of the capital building in Columbia, SC.
remek
They'll be confused when they see the Confederate battle flag, which is more prominently displayed than our state flag. Sadly.
Bush pleads for 'spirit of 9/11'
found article at the BBC
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/ameri...cas/
4233266.stm
I'd say the spirit of IX/XI is still alive.
Patriotic Americans want to catch the evil doers. In this case it's members of the Bush administration.
Steve Simels--thank you. My first reaction to GOPert's post was, 'huh?'
Simmel: forget to tell you when we talked that I've only recently become tuned in to Smashing Pumpkins. Luv their song 1989 (or is it '79).
Now, that I see Watertiger in on, let me publicly say that she is quite a babe also. Maybe we ought to have a calender women of Eschaton, tastefully done of course
Maybe if S.C. could change it from a crescent moon, to a moonpie! What's more American than moonpies?
Uh-oh! The citizens of South Carolina had better get their shit together because "Drownie" is in D.C. in charge of response for this one: Hurricane Watch Posted for SE Coast
Having a large Islamic crescent in Pennsylvania is honoring the twisted ideals that the hijackers supported.
And you laugh at me?
Well . . . yeah.
"What the fuck are you talking
about?
steve simels | Email | 09.10.05 - 2:46 pm | # "
Say it! Tell him! You know you wanna!
000
WTNT31 KNHC 101743
TCPAT1
BULLETIN
HURRICANE OPHELIA INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 17A
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
2 PM EDT SAT SEP 10 2005
...OPHELIA STILL DRIFTING TOWARD THE NORTHEAST...
A HURRICANE WATCH IS IN EFFECT FOR THE SOUTHEAST COAST OF THE UNITED
STATES FROM THE SAVANNAH RIVER SOUTH CAROLINA NORTHEASTWARD TO CAPE
LOOKOUT NORTH CAROLINA. A HURRICANE WATCH MEANS THAT HURRICANE
CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE WITHIN THE WATCH AREA...GENERALLY WITHIN 36
HOURS.
Hurricane OPHELIA Public Advisory
Uh-oh! The citizens of South Carolina had better get their shit together because "Drownie" is in D.C. in charge of response for this one
Nah, we have a Republican governor. I'm sure the feds'll take good care of us.
They're kinda football-shaped... like the world.
I thot it was banana-shaped.
I think by now most of us have seen the pictures of the school buses under water in a parking lot somewhere in NO.
1) I wonder how many volunteers you would get to drive them.
2) NOLA mayor might have fucked up, but it doesn't absolve Bush and the Feds in fucking up.
3) Given how people weren't allowed to cross bridges because of certain sheriffs, would they have been able to get out?
Once again, the left ignores counterarguments to the fact that they want to honor the Flight 93 hijackers.
Where do you get the notion that we want to honor the hijackers?
You crazy moon lovers! (See appropriate This Modern World from a couple years ago.)
I think we need our own school of Leftist Evangelicals to make crazy assed humanitarian proclamations as paralells to scripture ....Don't we have any theatrics anymore ? Is Mike Moore our only out there performer ? ( as if he were even that out there )
Imagine ,some hilarious Fire and Brimstone Preacher calling out the tyrany of the repugs, seeing the coming of the Seventh Sign in the form of the Hydra of Bush Cheney and Rumsfeld. What more proof do we need ?
We good spiritualits don't have to sit and wait for the end of years, we can fight back . If lucifer is resting in Washington , is it not our duty to drive him Hence?
And no one noticed the calander re; Cindy Sheehan closes up camp , and God sends a fuckin 'once every 500 years' Hurricane Straight at Texas?
AS portents go...
i think the South Carolinians should be more concerned with the hurricane heading straight at 'em.
Does that means that God is going to punish SC for putting the crescent in their flag?
Now, that I see Watertiger in on, let me publicly say that she is quite a babe also.
I've noticed that the top two most-viewed pics in my EschaCon flickr album are of watertiger. Just sayin'...
large Islamic crescent
Its just a shape, moron. Do you hate the moon? Are you really that stupid?
Where do you get the notion that we want to honor the hijackers?
You're supporting the giant crescent "memorial"
the wingers are so fucking trivial!
Cheney on CNN just now "with every storm we'll learn more". Hurricans hitting parts of the US coast at this time of year is not a new phenomenon.
Clearly Kyra Phillips got her talking points from Cheney's office.
Say it! Tell him! You know you wanna!
Nim | Email | 09.10.05 - 2:47 pm | #
I guess I picked the wrong week
to give up asking trolls to blow
me.
"why do I feel the sudden urge to turn around and moon these people?
watertiger | Email | Homepage | 09.10.05 - 2:39 pm | # "
don't they're too stupid to appreciate it. Moon us.
Its just a shape, moron. Do you hate the moon? Are you really that stupid?
The Old Man From Scene 24
Allah shaped the moon that way for a reason!
crescent [kréss’nt, krézz’nt]
n (plural crescents)
1. arc shape: a curved shape like that of the moon when it is less than half illuminated
2. arc-shaped thing: something shaped like a crescent
3. crescent
Crescent
islam Islamic symbol: the emblem of Islam or Turkey, shaped like a crescent moon
4. crescent
Crescent
islam Islamic or Turkish power: Islamic or Turkish power
5. crescent
Crescent
transport arc-shaped street: a curved street, especially one that opens onto the same street at each end
6. heraldry symbol for second son: a crescent moon, used in heraldry to signify a second son
adj
1. arc-shaped: shaped like a crescent
2. growing: gradually increasing in size (literary)
[14th century. Via Anglo-Norman cressaunt from, ultimately, Latin crescent- , the present participle stem of crescere ‘to grow’.]
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I think it is the National Review (or one of the wingnut magazines) that has a picture of the busses on the cover.
The count is around 210 busses. So how many were working? How many had gas? Drivers? Where would they go? If in theory they would have loaded them up and headed for the hills, that's still only 10k people, or about 5% of the people that rode the hurricane out.
"You're supporting the giant crescent "memorial"
Gary Ruppert | Homepage | 09.10.05 - 2:49 pm | # "
I haven't seen anyone here "support" it or not support it. It's just a memorial. Please point to any post where anyone has expressed the slightest vested interest in the shape of this memorial.
Thinking you're batshit insane for seeing islamofascism in every shadow =/= giving a second thought to what this memorial looks like.
NTodd: 2) NOLA mayor might have fucked up, but it doesn't absolve Bush and the Feds in fucking up.
Hey, we agree on something.
You folks are really gonna be pissed off when NOLA gets put back together and folks move back (even the poor ones). Heh?
Yeah, that would really suck. God knows we hope people have to suffer, just like in Iraq.
Gah, I hate Bush.
OT ... For those who are interested Howard Zinn is going to be on Ring of Fire today on AAR.
And, as an extra special bonus, Wolcott is gonna be on, too.
It's liberal heaven!
see the Cresent has several meanings.
for one the Crescent was originally Turkish.
Green is the proper Muslim flag
god get a fucking education wingnut morons.
Where do you get the notion that we want to honor the hijackers?
You're supporting the giant crescent "memorial"
1) How does a crescent-shaped memorial honor the hijackers?
2) How do you know I'm supporting a fucking memorial?
You wingers and your Extra Stupid Perception are really incredible.
i thought SC was going to be Born Again Christian land?
i'm so confused.
So, how many more people would be alive if Ray Nagin used the buses?
probably thousands!
Bush pleads for 'spirit of 9/11'
What, we're all supposed to gather around the tree and sing 9/11 carols?
The way this administration continues to dishonor the victims of 9/11 is utterly reprehensible.
The crescent is also used as a heraldic symbol in some Slavic countries. However, this usage is not affiliated on any kind with Islam. The roots of Slavic crescent can be traced up to the old Slavic pagan beliefs.
simels ...
Answering your Q from below ....
I was out early today and for an hour just now. It's very nice, yes, but I want some rain! I'm beginning to feel like that Sarah Miles character in "White Mischief" who goes to the door in the morning and says, "Oh Christ, not another fucking beautiful day."
In this verse is threatened the vengeance of God on the wicked unbelieving Israelites, who were God's visible people, and who lived under the means of grace; but who, notwithstanding all God's wonderful works towards them, remained (as ver. 28.) void of counsel, having no understanding in them. Under all the cultivations of heaven, they brought forth bitter and poisonous fruit; as in the two verses next preceding the text. The expression I have chosen for my text, Their foot shall slide in due time, seems to imply the following doings, relating to the punishment and destruction to which these wicked Israelites were exposed.
1. That they were always exposed to destruction; as one that stands or walks in slippery places is always exposed to fall. This is implied in the manner of their destruction coming upon them, being represented by their foot sliding. The same is expressed, Psalm 73:18. "Surely thou didst set them in slippery places; thou castedst them down into destruction."
2. It implies, that they were always exposed to sudden unexpected destruction. As he that walks in slippery places is every moment liable to fall, he cannot foresee one moment whether he shall stand or fall the next; and when he does fall, he falls at once without warning: Which is also expressed in Psalm 73:18, 19. "Surely thou didst set them in slippery places; thou castedst them down into destruction: How are they brought into desolation as in a moment!"
3. Another thing implied is, that they are liable to fall of themselves, without being thrown down by the hand of another; as he that stands or walks on slippery ground needs nothing but his own weight to throw him down.
4. That the reason why they are not fallen already, and do not fall now, is only that God's appointed time is not come. For it is said, that when that due time, or appointed time comes, their foot shall slide. Then they shall be left to fall, as they are inclined by their own weight. God will not hold them up in these slippery places any longer, but will let them go; and then at that very instant, they shall fall into destruction; as he that stands on such slippery declining ground, on the edge of a pit, he cannot stand alone, when he is let go he immediately falls and is lost.
You're supporting the giant crescent "memorial"
No actually we're memorial-shape-neutral, idiot.
We're just laughing at cluess morons like you who get worked up over trivial things.
wignuts are so fucking stupid!
Hey, can I have a neighbor to have a beer with who's down to earth and who went to Yale on a legacy admission and ducked out of wartime military service because his dad, who he hates, was tightly connected with powerful people who hated him, who then ran three companies into the ground and emerged vastly richer, who then married a woman who ran over her boyfriend with the tearful apologies of the local police, who then spat tobacco juice disdainfully in the back of the Harvard School of Business classrooms, then earned the respect of fellow party members by enthusiastically standing on the windpipe of anybody who hesitated to throw open the doors of power to him?
'Cause my neighbor ain't like that at all, and I'm thinkin' it's my fault.
NTodd: 2) NOLA mayor might have fucked up, but it doesn't absolve Bush and the Feds in fucking up.
Hey, we agree on something.
Please note the 'might'. I'm still not convinced Nagin fucked up, even though he is a Bush donor and endorsed Blanco's GOP opponent.
Fact is, this clearly is a regional disaster and that's what the Feds are for. Where would the buses have gone, given the disaster area is the size of Great Britain?
What the fuck are you talking
about?
steve simels
Beat me to it - incomprehensible, no?
magine ,some hilarious Fire and Brimstone Preacher calling out the tyrany of the repugs, seeing the coming of the Seventh Sign in the form of the Hydra of Bush Cheney and Rumsfeld. What more proof do we need ?
after the official telethon's One Hour was over we switched over to the BET telethon. way better. they had some jeebus types doing hymns and such, then they had an act that made my jaw drop it was so cool.
Queen Latifah: "And now, one of our newest poets, 6 year old Autumn."
and autumn proceeds to do a great Brooklyn Rastafarian rap, with the chorus concluding with
"The mark of the beast in all of these places
I see it all over their faces."
it was wild. Steve Harvey was agog.
3 cheers for BET and the SOS telethon.
When I was a little bitty Tow, whenever the teacher read to us we sat in a semi-circle. That's what we called it anyway.
Who knew we were being taught Islamic fundamantalism?
res ipsa:
I love that movie. Especially
the scene where the woman who
played the villain on BLAKES' 7
comes in nude and says isn't
there somebody
here who's gonna fuck me?
(or words to that effect).
The fact is that New Orleans has suffered due to the corruption of the Democrats and their lack of backbone. They refused to evacuate the city before the hurricane.
Bush pleads for 'spirit of 9/11'
Translation: Bush pleads for people to remember the false image of him being a "strong leader" after 9/11.
A crescent is also the shape of a CROISSANT, which is FRENCH.
All you liberals... enjoy tasty breakfasts! I hope you're happy!
Are you guys actually debating this Ruppert?
People ask about the school busses in NO, but nobody mentions how they were supposed to get drivers for them.
3) Given how people weren't allowed to cross bridges because of certain sheriffs, would they have been able to get out?
Don't forget the huge traffic jam leading out of the city until they shut the bridges and causeways down on Sunday.
Also, I have read that FEMA wanted those busses left there for after-the-hurricane evacuations. I haven't seen any news reports verifying that, however.
Green is the proper Muslim flag
Ooo the wingnuts better start hating grass now.
The crescent used to be a symbol of the Byzantine Empire. After the Fall of Constantinople in 1453 it was taken as a symbol by the Ottoman Empire. The crescent is now often used to symbolize the Islamic faith. However, it should be noted that the crescent was not a symbol used for Islam by Muhammad or any other early Muslim rulers, as the Islam is, in fact, against appointing "Holy Symbols". Despite that fact many islamic nations and charities use the symbol on their flags or logos (e.g. Pakistan, The Red Crescent.) In this manner it could be argued that its modern usage is meant to signify identity and for devout muslims brotherhood.
Like Gary the Numbskull , I too am afraid of many shapes. Since I was cured of my fear of heights , I've recently become fearful instead of widths.
Nothing however can overcome my anxiety around triangles. You'll notice , no where did I use that letter that appears after "u" anywhere in this posting . Can't .
So take it easy on our Retarded Troll , he's scared of crescents ,( the more I look at them , the more I get the willies ) . Me , I've also come to be pretty afraid of Crosses too .
Geometra-phobia.
Yes, I know this is OT:
Have any of you photog types been to http://www.bagnewsnotes.com/ ?
It deals with interpreting certain images psychologically and/or symbolically.
Interesting.
A crescent is the shape produced when from a circular disk the disk of a circle which is a little smaller and tangent on the inside to the larger circle, is cut. It might also be described it as the shape the lit side of a sphere takes on if, in respect to the viewer, the light source is behind and to one side of the sphere (as in a crescent moon). Depending on the nature of which way the 'horns' (the pointed edges at the top of the arc) face denote whether or not the usage is to be taken in an active or passive state. Thus, pointing left ']' denotes a waxing moon and thus an active moon, whilst 'C' would infer the opposite.
The fact is that New Orleans has suffered due to the corruption of the Democrats
and their lack of backbone. They refused to evacuate the city before the
hurricane.
Gary Ruppert | Homepage | 09.10.05 - 2:56 pm | #
Blow it out your ass.
Are you guys actually debating this Ruppert?
Don't look at me...
Alien Apocalypse is on Sci-Fi at 7 - I recommend.
The crescent symbol is also used to represent the alchemical usage of silver and, by inference, can also be used to represent qualities that silver possesses. (Alchemy and Symbols, By M. E. Glidewell, Epsilon.)
Hmmm...
I guess a whole lot of Christian iconography which includes the moon in various phases are now out.
Yup...just Iron Crosses...like the German medals from WWII.
Morons.
>OH. MY. GOD.
They were RIGHT.
We're through the looking glass here, people.
Oooooooooh. WT - You have gained quite a following. Well deserved, I might add.
i'm sorry but when i see stupidity from fuckers like ruppet it just makes me mad and I have to answer them.
So take it easy on our Retarded Troll , he's scared of crescents ,( the more I look at them , the more I get the willies ) .
You parentheses-using hypocrite.
Geometra-phobia.
A.Scott | Email | Homepage | 09.10.05 - 2:57 pm | #
Thanks....that rant really brightened
my day!
I like Blanco. The only reason she won though is that the wingnuts and fundies, who are the only ones who vote in numbers in my appethetic state, couldn't bring themselves to vote for her GOP opponent, who is Indian and very dark skinned.
The fact is that New Orleans has suffered due to the corruption of the Democrats and their lack of backbone. They refused to evacuate the city before the hurricane.
Incorrect. Nagin (a Dem in the Zell Miller mold) ordered the first evac of NOLA in history. First it was voluntary, back on the 26th, then it was mandatory, on the 28th. Get your facts straight, asshole.
They celebrate St. Patrick's Day in New Orleans with a parade and they throw green beads, drink green beer, and wear green wigs. I guess Malkin will soon start screeching that they are Islamo-Irishists.
The vast majority of Americans are totally unaware of the wingnuts and fundies.
Rasmussen: Since 9/11, Most say U.S. has changed for the worse.
As the fourth anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attacks approaches, just 26% of Americans say their nation has changed for the better since those attacks. A Rasmussen Reports survey found that 54% now believe those attacks changed America for the worse.
Took the other 74% this long to figure out that things are kinda fucked?
it is the Final Night of the BBC Proms here.
my dad is going to open a nice bottle of red wine and generally chill out
unclear on the concept:
DENVER -
Federal Emergency Management Agency Director Michael Brown sent a candid e-mail to family and friends this week as he was becoming the center of criticism of the handling of the Hurricane Katrina disaster.
"I don't mind the negative press (well, actually, I do, but I try to ignore it) but it is really wearing out the family," Brown wrote. "No wonder people don't go into public service. This country is devouring itself, the 24-hour news cycle is numbing our ability to think for ourselves," the Rocky Mountain News reported Saturday.
Brown was relieved of his command of the onsite relief efforts Friday amid increasing criticism over the sluggishness of the agency's response and questions over his background.
"It's horrible," said Mary Ann Karns, an Oklahoma lawyer who once worked with Brown in the Edmond, Okla., city government and got the e-mail addressed. "He does not deserve this as a human being."
The buses.
I think the plan was always that the people without trans were to go to the Superdome.
Nobody could have imagined it would take days instead of hours to get food and water to them and start getting them out.
THAT is the fuck up.
.
Is Sallyh still here? I think I got the Blogger thang figured out, but not sure about wording, etc. Damn me and my failure to gather requirements!
.
3, 2, 1 ... and the wingnuts undoubtedly will begin to protest for the replacement of the SC state flag with some form of confederate symbolism ...
Much more 'Merkin ...
Have any of you photog types been to http://www.bagnewsnotes.com/ ?
It deals with interpreting certain images psychologically and/or symbolically.
Holy cow, that's cool/weird/etc.
OT: the programme
Walton
Overture - Portsmouth Point (6 mins)
Handel
Xerxes - 'Ombra mai fu'
Rodelinda - 'Dove sei'
Giustino - 'Se parla nel mio cor' (12 mins)
Rodrigo
Concierto de Aranjuez (22 mins)
Lambert
The Rio Grande (15 mins)
interval
Korngold
Suite from music for "Sea Hawk" (6 mins)
Simon Bainbridge
Scherzi (6 mins)
Trad. arr. Crawford Young
Down by the Salley Gardens (4 mins)
Purcell
King Arthur - 'Fairest Isle' (4 mins)
Elgar
Pomp and Circumstance March No.1 (8 mins)
Henry Wood, with additional numbers arr. Bob Chilcott
Fantasia on British Sea Songs (23 mins)
Parry, orch. Elgar
Jerusalem (2 mins)
Traditional (arr. Wood)
The National Anthem (2 mins)
Traditional
Auld Lang Syne (2 min)
Andreas Scholl (counter-tenor)
John Williams (guitar)
Paul Lewis (piano)
Karen Cargill (mezzo-soprano)
BBC Singers
BBC Symphony Chorus
BBC Symphony Orchestra
Paul Daniel conductor
Dammit! Today I went down and donated a car load of supplies to a trailer that my Fundie Asshole Boss's church was putting together for hurricane vicitms (not doing so well so far I'm afraid).
I just realized I could have worn my "Dean for America" t-shirt and made some of their heads asplode.
You parentheses-using hypocrite.
Eli
See , I hadn't noticed till u mentioned it ...took a butter knife to those keys, they're gone
{see?}[ these don't count]
simels; You're welcome . I was working in the vein of " oh , blow me " but decided there was room for derision . {down with parenthesis}
I'm no fan of Drum, but he's asking some pretty good questions on that incident where the suburban sherrif was shooting at evacuees from New Orleans.
"It's horrible," said Mary Ann Karns, an Oklahoma lawyer who once worked with Brown in the Edmond, Okla., city government and got the e-mail addressed. "He does not deserve this as a human being."
So true. He doesn't deserve *anything* as a human being.
Rasmussen: Since 9/11, Most say U.S. has changed for the worse.
Hey, I already blogwhored that!
I think the plan was always that the people without trans were to go to the Superdome.
Yes, that was part of the evac plan that the wingers are claiming is "proof" that it's all Nagin's fault...
It's obvious the have nothing else to do with their time, those stupid wingnuts (oximoron). Nest thing you know, they'll be trying to get the real crescent moon off the horizon, perhaps they will make the largest mother fucking american flag ever made to cover the moon up during those days of the month...
there are also holding Proms around the country.
BBC Proms in the Park
LONDON - HYDE PARK
BELFAST - DONEGALL SQUARE
GLASGOW - GLASGOW GREEN
SWANSEA - SINGLETON PARK
MANCHESTER - HEATON PARK
Anybody know if the Pentagon is
going ahead with that 9/11 Triumph
of the Will Rally tomorrow?
You're stupid if you think being in the Superdome is a better idea than leaving New Orleans
If Bush wasn't giving JeffyLube a blow job at the time.
I've noticed that the top two most-viewed pics in my EschaCon flickr album are of watertiger.
*handface*
We're through the looking glass here, people.
It's the Reverse Vampires, I tell you!!!
"It deals with interpreting certain images psychologically and/or symbolically.
Holy cow, that's cool/weird/etc." --
NTodd
I don't know who runs the site (why, yes, I am lazy), but their running the Compassionate Laurabot - NOLA program now. Pretty cool.
I may start hanging out over there.
Gary Ruppert you're just plain stupid
You're stupid if you think being in the Superdome is a better idea than leaving New Orleans
Gary Ruppert
You're stupid if you think that a multi-billion dollar FEMA = cavalry.
*handface*
I just report it, yo.
You're stupid if --
From an expert in the matter.
"Where would the buses have gone, given the disaster area is the size of Great Britain?" How' bout NORTH. Like over the bridge(s) so they wouldn't have to chop through their freaking roofs so as not to drown. Also, a school bus works at this time of the year (school is in), and gassing up all of them is something that happens pretty quickly if need. Yes this place is Reality-based... my arse...
You're stupid if you think being in the Superdome is a better idea than leaving New Orleans
You're stupid if you think it was a choice. And you're stupid if you think that these people shouldn't have expected a competent Federal response to a regional disaster. And you're stupid if you believe the shit about not ordering an evac. And you're stupid.
Hi everyone--
I just got back from helping some evacuees out with housing issues. Word is, these folks came from the infamous Convention Center.
About half of the 500 who arrived earlier in the week have left (to go with family, friends, etc), those who remain may not have much of a support system, but there are lots of local resources (for the time being anyway).
Some were telling us that people outside were just handing them cash, clothing, etc.--just individuals, not as part of an organized charity. Nextel gave everyone a cell phone with 1000 minutes on it to help arrange housing/jobs/contacting friends and family.
It was good to see this firsthand. Whereas FEMA let them down hard, local communities and Red Cross are picking up the slack and most of the people I talked to are feeling better about things.
Jeffraham--sorry, was off grading!
What's up, boyo?
I've noticed that the top two most-viewed pics in my EschaCon flickr album are of
watertiger.
Don't be coy, Eli...who's the
other one?
And you're stupid if you believe the shit about not ordering an evac. And you're stupid.
Your stupid minds! Stupid, stupid!
Nagin should have ordered the complete evacuation of New Orleans, with buses to transport everybody out of town.
Instead, he just suggested that people leave.
The failure of New Orleans and Louisiana is the tragedy here, and it should be investigated.
FEMA was handed a smashed crockpot, it's not their fault that it took a few days to get everything back together
Not surprised that the fundis aren't very generous. They never are and usually have the worst record for doing charity work. They have that lovely attitude that having wealth means that Jesus loves you and rewards you and being poor means that Jesus hates you because you are bad and you shouldn't help the poor because that will annoy Jesus.
Don't be coy, Eli...who's the
other one?
I'm saying they're *both* watertiger.
I love that movie. Especially
the scene where the woman who
played the villain on BLAKES' 7
comes in nude and says isn't
there somebody
here who's gonna fuck me?
Simels ... Isn't that Sarah Miles? She is the one doing all the really outrageous stuff in that film.
A seaborne Last Night with Walton, Lambert and Korngold setting the nautical scene for the centenary of Henry Wood's Sea-Songs with their original bugle calls restored. Andreas Scholl is the first counter-tenor to appear on the Last Night; he sings Handel and Purcell, while guitar legend John Williams plays Rodrigo in a feast of music-making - joined by Proms in the Park audiences around the country - led by Last Night debutant conductor Paul Daniel.
Ruppert is scum.
ah yes the superbuses.
do these trolls ever think of logistics?
Atrios--a really obscure and cool gift from your wishlist, plus a dessert of your choosing, if you get rid of the GOPert troll.
Why is Bush's support so high? 38, 39%.
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According to Bill Moyers, 35% of Americans are bugfucking, batshit crazy. The rest is in the margin of error.
Your stupid minds! Stupid, stupid!
Eli | Email | Homepage | 09.10.05 - 3:09 pm | #
Let the Ed Wood Jr references begin!
You're stupid if you think that this Administration would be able to deal with a large terror attack.
How' bout NORTH.
You mean across the bridges that were blocked? And how far north do you think they needed to go, given this was a regional disaster? And what do you think of the other points?
This is a fascinating skill on the part of wingers. Give them a gazillion reasons why something's bad, and they attack one, thinking that if they somehow cast doubt on one item that the entire litany is therefore demolished. Parse away, asshole. You're as detached from reality as Bush, whose numbers have plummeted before your willfully blind eyes.
I feel it in my bones: Bush is going down the way Nixon did. Suspending the minimum wage in those devastated areas so that Halliburton can get slave labor and make huge profits will take the Republican party down. They are beginning to look like cornered rats. Can't wait.
Sure, all those folks without cars should have walked out of New Orleans. They would be in no danger whatsoever by staying outdoors in 160 mph winds. It's so obvious!
[/wingnut]
Alien Apocalypse is on Sci-Fi at 7 - I recommend.
I hereby DENOUNCE ELI!
In his posts he KONTINUES to use the letter "C," whih is shaped like a KRESSENT, the symbol of EVIL ISLAM O' FASHISM!
His post should have read,
"Alien Apoalypse is on Si-Fi at 7 - I reommend.'
Eli needs to be more Patriotik.
Let the Ed Wood Jr references begin!
Can you *prove* it didn't happen?
Translation: Bush pleads for people to remember the false image of him being a "strong leader" after 9/11.
He's pleading for those poll results he had after 9/11, which amounts to the same thing you said.
FEMA was handed a smashed crockpot, it's not their fault that it took a few days to get everything back together
Gary Ruppert
If you run an entire Federal election campaign on who will keep the citizens safer, if you break the crockpot, you own it.
P.S. shove the shards up your colin.
Goodman--MOE is normally ~+/-3.
The rest are batshit insane.
"They have that lovely attitude that having wealth means that Jesus loves you and rewards you and being poor means that Jesus hates you because you are bad and you shouldn't help the poor because that will annoy Jesus." --
sekmet
Because, you know, that's exactly what He said in all his sermons....
Extra Saturday Cat Blogging
enjoy
I was reading an article from the LA Times about how Bush is falling back on New Deal and Great Society programs to funnel aid to the people victemized by the hurricane.
One quote by Tom Coburn, an Okie repug struck me odd...
"It's a great time for the president to stand up and … make priorities" by advocating cuts elsewhere in the federal budget to pay for relief efforts"
Would I be mistaken if I were to assume by this statement the repugs feel energized by the devastation of the hurricane to ravage any and all government programs they hate to pay for the Presidential give away? Once a program and/or agency is no longer funded, they dry up and go away like a leave on a tree in late autumn.
Makes me wonder just where will the funds for hurricane relief come from now. I suspect the EPA is definitely on that chopping block.
regards
.
Eli needs to be more Patriotik.
My mistake - what a silly bunt.
Mississippi is a hell of mess too but the gov's a goper so no outrage from the trolls. I wonder, when trolls post here does Rove give them a cracker like a good little dog or does a slot open and a food pellet drops out?
Garry Ruppert vs. a Pillsbury crescent roll.
WHO WINS?
I'm still kinda shocked at the complete absence of a kind word or donation of effort by the Bush twins.
Maybe I shouldn't be. Getting hung over is such hard work!
Nice to see the Dixie Chicks last night!
Simels ... Isn't that Sarah Miles? She is the one doing all the really outrageous
stuff in that film.
res ipsa loquitur | 09.10.05 - 3:09 pm | #
No, it's a woman named Jacquiline
Pearce....it's the only scene she's
in, right at the beginning.
But Sarah Miles is hilarious
throughout....isn't she so high
at one point that she's eating
lobster dipped in chocolate?
If you run an entire Federal election campaign on who will keep the citizens safer, if you break the crockpot, you own it.
Yeah, the Democrats are responsible for a lot of deaths in New Orleans due to their lack of action and their inability to follow their own hurricane plans
sniff-sniff.
someone spilled trool juice again.
-J.T.
Nagin should have ordered the complete evacuation of New Orleans, with buses to transport everybody out of town.
Instead, he just suggested that people leave.
He did, dipshit. Voluntary on the 26th, mandatory on the 28th. And the post-Ivan planning indicated use of the Superdome for those who could not evac. The assumption being that the fucking Federal government, run by the guy who campaigned on the notion that he could protect us from a disaster, would be competent enough to deal with massive, region-wide destruction.
You're stupid.
sniff-sniff.
someone spilled trool juice again.
-J.T.
Ophelia regains hurricane force off Carolinas coast
MIAMI (Reuters) - The Atlantic storm Ophelia regained hurricane force on Saturday as U.S. forecasters placed coastal North and South Carolina under a hurricane watch.
The watch issued by the National Hurricance Center in Miami cautioned that fierce winds and other hurricane conditions were possible within 36 hours in an area along the southeastern U.S. coast from the Savannah River in South Carolina to Cape Lookout in North Carolina.
Sustained winds had been gauged as high as 80 miles per hour (128 kph) within Ophelia, which was near latitude 31.6 north and longitude 76.5 west, or some 220 miles east-southeast of Charleston, South Carolina, at 1100 EDT (1500 GMT), according to a hurricane center advisory.
"Ophelia has slowed down and is now moving toward the northeast near 3 mph (5 kph)," forecasters said. "Little motion is expected today with a gradual turn to the west-northwest on Sunday."
Marcia Brady--This freakish brand of Calvinism in this country, it baffles me.
Eli were you attacked by a bat when you were a child?
Prediction:
CNN wins court case allowing access to the dead in NO .
Gov will appeal. Cite national security
Supreme Court will uphold Government Secrecy of Death toll , Ban Media in the follwoing decision :
" we the justices of the surpreme court of the United States of America agree that the president has the authority to dismantle the right of media access to any event deemed in the national security.Of course the public has the absolute right to know and the President and his Biographer are uniquely qualified to decide that which is pertinent to that public interest. Since VP Cheney was permitted to burn his Energy Policy notes and bank account info in Grand Camen Royal Finance , forget learning anything remotely threatening to the monopoly of power of the New Era, and so no corpses nor body counts shall be considered public domain. "
Mississippi didn't have thousands of dead people, massive riots, or a complete breakdown in order.
They followed their hurricane plan
Go fuck yourself, Mr. Cheney!
Go fuck yourself!
Eli were you attacked by a bat when you were a child?
Yes, when I was a sbhoolboy.
Do you trust Bush to make the right decisions during a national crisis?
No: 52%
I don't see what the big stink is about!
It deals with interpreting certain images psychologically and/or symbolically.
whoever did that would have a field day with Bush touching people's heads, grabbing them behind the head, yadda yadda...
Garry Ruppert vs. a Pillsbury crescent roll.
WHO WINS?
shmee
Shmee, honey, that's a no brainer all the way.
He did, dipshit. Voluntary on the 26th, mandatory on the 28th.
It's not a mandatory evacuation without any enforcement.
He said that they could go the Superdome too.
So basically, that's like me saying "YOU HAVE TO GET OUT OF MY HOUSE, BUT YOU CAN STAY IN MY LIVING ROOM"
Gary Ruppert | Homepage | 09.10.05 - 3:15 pm | #
That's nice, dear.
OT: Civilian shot in loyalist rioting
Shots have been fired at police and a civilian injured by a blast bomb thrown during loyalist rioting surrounding a controversial parade in Belfast.
One civilian also sustained a bullet wound.
Water canon and plastic bullets were used against petrol bombers who attacked police and soldiers. Six officers were injured.
The security forces came under sustained attack by several hundred rioters on West Circular Road.
There were reports of automatic gunfire being heard in several parts of the city.
Cars were hijacked and set on fire on Ardoyne Road and North Queen Street.
Re the buses question, Maher had Walter Maestri , the Jefferson Parish emergency manager (may not be his exact title) on last night and asked about the buses.
Maher asked him about buses specifically.
Maestri said something I hadn't heard
(loosly transcribed from my Tivo)
"The buses were used and then brought back to get another load of folks."
"The problem was a number of folks didn't have the resources to leave and so at the last hours we were trying to get as many out as we could using the public transit system.
[Maher is pretty gentle with him, backs down a little.
Asks him knowing what he know about the city demographics, why not a better plan to coordinate evacuation of people without cars.
Maestr: "Buses were used to get as meny people out as we possibly could."
Maestri says people thought they could ride the storm out. 3 generations that hadn't seen a bad storm, saw emergency planners as "prophets of doom and gloom."
I want to believe Maestri but I haven't read anything about anyone getting taken anywhere in buses before the storm. Where were the people that were taken in these buses? Where did they take them? Who drove these buses?
Jeebus, someone left the cage open again. When will they learn!
I had heard that Islam is highly intolerant of the use of "graven images" representing the faith. If that's so, why do we always see portraits of mullahs held aloft at demonstrations in Iraq and Iran?
Your stupid minds! Stupid, stupid!
That's it. FEMA, to any extent it had a "plan," was operating under Plan 9.
[No zombie jokes, it'd be way too crass. And please note the PC use of brackets now; I will not be called an islamopunctuationalist.]
Terry C--troll shit. We need the cleanup crew, stat.
Sallyh: What's up, boyo?
Check your e-mail...
.
It took FEMA 4 or 5 days to get help to people in Mississippi who got no help from state or local government.
Yeah, the Democrats are responsible for a lot of deaths in New Orleans due to their lack of action and their inability to follow their own hurricane plans
They acted according to their own plans, dipshit, and those plans assumed that the Federal response would be something more than Bush strumming a guitar, the Cabinet on vacation, and FEMA and DHS heads who didn't get their information from 2-day old newspaper accounts.
Eli needs to be more Patriotik.
I kompletely agree with your komments klassifying Eli.
I recall reading that they did, in fact, use the school buses, early on, and then, with the roads being shut down and fuel running out, parked them. Unfortunately, I can't remember, but if I do, I'll link it.
In the meantime, why the extended conversation with Gary Rainman? Help him cross the street, then leave him alone. He's seriously retarded.
Moonbotica--it never ends up north, does it?
And now we understand why "moonbat" is such a devastating epithet.
Eli
If the right-tards don't like "moonbats", it must be a good thing to be!
No zombie jokes, it'd be way too crass. And please note the PC use of brackets now; I will not be called an islamopunctuationalist
Yeah, they had such easy options. They could go north trying to walk across the Causeway with the high winds and high waves or go west over the bridge over the Bonne Carre spillway with the high winds and high waves. East they would have hit the Gulf and south they would have hit the swamps. And it would have just been like camp!
Yeah, the Democrats are responsible for a lot of deaths in New Orleans due to their lack of action and their inability to follow their own hurricane plans
That's nice, dear.
plantsman the Shia have images of their martyr Ali ibn Abu Talib.
Shia Muslims
Shi'a is short for Shi'áte Ali (Arabic: شیعة علي, a follower of Ali ibn Abu Talib who was the Islamic prophet Muhammad's cousin, his son-in-law, and the father of Muhammad's only descendants. He was the male head of the Ahlul Bayt, Muhammad's household, after Muhammad died. Shi'a Muslims believe that Ali should have followed Muhammad as the direct successor and leader of the Muslims. Sunni Muslims believe that Abu Bakr, the first caliph to hold power after Muhammad, held his office legitimately. This difference of opinion regarding an event in 632 CE may seem like a minor matter to some, but this schism shaped two Muslim traditions which differ sharply in many of their beliefs and practices.
There are twice as many people in LA than MS--probably a bigger difference in the gulf area.
Translation: Bush pleads for people to remember the false image of him being a "strong leader" after 9/11.
DING DING DING DING DING!
We have a weiner!!!
"They followed their hurricane plan"
--Gary Ruppert
Holy cow. Have you listened to anyone else besides the Govenor? Apparently NOT.
The fact that Nagin hasn't been bombarded by images of the buses shows that the media is biased against Bush and the GOP
Yeah, the Democrats are responsible for a lot of deaths in New Orleans due to their lack of action and their inability to follow their own hurricane plans
Gary Ruppert
OK, Deputy Fife, when it suits the Chimperor, he can unquestionably deplete a state's military protection to write a non-draft check with the National Guard.
But when the goddamned bank wants its money, he's helpless in the face of state red-tape.
Sell crazy someplace, else.
It's the only commodity that everyone is fully supplied with.
Didn't Mississippi block the eastward route out of NOLA?
Translation: Bush pleads for people to remember the false image of him being a "strong leader" after 9/11.
DING DING DING DING DING!
We have a weiner!!!
And this is why he needed 50 firemen on stand-behind-the-preznit detail all day while he was touring the disaster.
Randi Rhodes is calling FEMA and playing their outgoing message. Fuck.
" We're all busy, your call will be disconnected. Thank you ."
On Fox News:
Live interview with evacuee about debit cards and the pitiful amount of money on them.(in his case only $700)
Anchor asks: "what do you want"
evacuee:
"...give us what the fuck we deserve"
Fox News anchor then gives birth to small bovine creature...
Eli were you attacked by a bat when you were a child?
Yes, when I was a sbhoolboy.
Silly bunt.
It's not a mandatory evacuation without any enforcement.
He said that they could go the Superdome too.
So basically, that's like me saying "YOU HAVE TO GET OUT OF MY HOUSE, BUT YOU CAN STAY IN MY LIVING ROOM"
This is what Bush said about the mandatory evac that day:
" I urge all citizens to put their own safety and the safety of their families first by moving to safe ground. Please listen carefully to instructions provided by state and local officials."
Gee, you'd think he would've enforced that.
Anyway, mandatory doesn't mean squat when you are infirm or poor. In fact, the order, as per the plan you keep mentioning but clearly haven't read, allowed such people to stay put or to go to the Superdome, assuming that the Federal Fucking Government would do its fucking job and get them the fuck out of there after the storm.
Fuck you, you fucking stupid fuck.
I had heard that Islam is highly intolerant of the use of "graven images" representing the faith. If that's so, why do we always see portraits of mullahs held aloft at demonstrations in Iraq and Iran?
Because they're as lousy at following their religion as American Christians are.
...My Drug War Roundup
Jeffraham--just emailed you the wording. You're such a love to do this for me.
I kompletely agree with your komments klassifying Eli.
albertkhampion will feel much more at home, being able to say "amerika" to his heart's kontent.
If that's so, why do we always see portraits of mullahs held aloft at demonstrations in Iraq and Iran?
That's images of God.
Jeebus.
And since when is a photo a graven image?
(Brownshirt G) vs. a Pillsbury crescent roll.
WHO WINS?
Poppin' Fresh kicks his fat pasty ass... count on it!
The Byzantine Empire was rocked by arguments between those who worshipped Icons and those who didn't
The 8th century was dominated by the controversy over iconoclasm. Icons were banned by Emperor Leo III, leading to revolts by iconophiles within the empire. Thanks to the efforts of Empress Irene, the Second Council of Nicaea met in 787 and affirmed that icons could be venerated but not worshipped. Irene also attempted a marriage alliance with Charlemagne, which would have united the two empires, but these plans came to nothing. The iconoclast controversy returned in the early 9th century, but was resolved once more in 843. These controversies did not help the disintegrating relations with the Roman Catholic Church and the Holy Roman Empire, which were both beginning to gain more power of their own.
A Scott--I was appalled by that.
Are any of the cell phone carriers allowing us to donate minutes and phones to help people? I think that'd be a great way to help them.
The fact that Nagin hasn't been bombarded by images of the buses shows that the media is biased against Bush and the GOP
You are aware that buses require gas and drivers and a place to go, right? No, of course not, because you are a fucking stupid fuck, just like Bush, Cheney, Brown and Chernoff.
that gary ruppert is perturb. por thing. who forgot to lock the cage?
Wycliffe | 09.10.05 - 2:46 pm | #
That's lovely, sonny.
Now, go play!
" It deals with interpreting certain images psychologically and/or symbolically."
"whoever did that would have a field day with Bush touching people's heads, grabbing them behind the head, yadda yadda..." --
watertiger
I haven't found that yet, but they (s/he?)did an analysis on the Ann Coulter Time cover. Really interesting.
The Old Man From Scene 24 | 09.10.05 - 3:18 pm
Damn youse. I must be more ¢areful hen€eforth.
I recall reading that they did, in fact, use the school buses, early on, and then, with the roads being shut down and fuel running out, parked them. Unfortunately, I can't remember, but if I do, I'll link it.
Didn;t they also use municipal busses?
They followed their hurricane plan
Gary Ruppert
your right gary. bush didn't fuck up. he didn't do anything wrong, and if he did it was all saddam hussiens fault.
now can you please shut the fuck up.
Well, no wonder some people don't want to rebuild New Orleans.
It's the Crescent City, after all.
Horrors!!!!
Fuck you, you fucking stupid fuck.
Sit down and have a Pabst Blue Ribbon!
it got to the point where Icons were used as godparents.
So, why does the media want to show dead bodies in New Orleans, but they don't want to show people jumping out of the World Trade Centers on 9/11?
Looks like Verizon (my carrier) may have something going on along these lines.
...isn't she so high
at one point that she's eating
lobster dipped in chocolate?
Holy crap. I don't remember that. I need to put that movie in my Netflix queue. I do remember what she did when Joss died, though, to sort of put her "imprint" on him.
shoo, wingnut, shooo! anyone has a fly swatter?
"You're supporting the giant crescent "memorial"
Gary Ruppert | Homepage | 09.10.05 - 2:49 pm | # "
PROOF, please?
Hey, Playbill just emailed me to say I could get Spamalot tickets for $29!
Maybe I could sit in Condi's Seat of Power....
Proof...PROOF that Katrina was punishment from a vengeful Xtian god
Are any of the cell phone carriers allowing us to donate minutes and phones to help people? I think that'd be a great way to help them.
Sallyh | Email | Homepage | 09.10.05 - 3:22 pm | #
I mentioned upthread that Nextell gave new cell phones with 1000 minutes to the evacuees who were shipped here.
Prediction:
CNN wins court case allowing access to the dead in NO .
Gov will appeal. Cite national security
Supreme Court will uphold Government Secrecy of Death toll , Ban Media in the follwoing decision :
Lawyers ... wouldn't this be a prior restraint case? And arent't the standards for prior restraint really fucking high (e.g., you can't publish troop movements)? This has nothing to do w/security.
Soon THE BUSES!!! THE BUSES!!! will be used as often as WE PAINTED THE SCHOOLS!!! WE PAINTED THE SCHOOLS!!! as an indicator that the cons have got nothing.
So, why does the media want to show dead bodies in New Orleans, but they don't want to show people jumping out of the World Trade Centers on 9/11?
Um...I saw pictures of people jumping out of the WTC. But they, of course, were still alive. Does your recipe for apple pie call for oranges, you fucking stupid fucking fuck?
You are aware that buses require gas and drivers and a place to go, right?
I don't think the people on the right undertstand that these people had nowhere to go. The Superdome and Konvention Senter were at kapacity and no other state had agreed to take the evakuees.
Alien Apocalypse is on Sci-Fi at 7 - I recommend.
I second that recommendation.
One should never pass up a movie that includes giant bug aliens that bite peoples heads off.
Res Ipsa--that was the Circuit Judge's basis for rejecting the order.
Current state of surrealism:
Dali was a realist.
Hurricane Ophelia could hit Atlantic coast
Tropical Storm Ophelia strengthened into a hurricane again today as forecasters said that a landfall somewhere along the south-east Atlantic coast appeared more likely.
Forecasters have urged residents from the Georgia-Florida border to the Carolinas to a keep close watch on Ophelia's path. A hurricane watch was issued from north of the Savannah River in South Carolina to Cape Lookout in North Carolina, meaning hurricane-force winds of at least 74 mph (119 kph) were possible by tomorrow evening.
Louisiana and Mississippi, which are still recovering from Hurricane Katrina, are not in the storm's path.
A hurricane hunter flying through Ophelia measured top sustained winds of 80 mph (129 kph). It could strengthen a bit before an expected Monday landfall, said Eric Blake, a meteorologist at the National Hurricane Center.
...isn't she so high
at one point that she's eating
lobster dipped in chocolate?
Holy crap. I don't remember that. I need to put that movie in my Netflix queue. I do remember what she did when Joss died, though, to sort of put her "imprint" on him.
res ipsa loquitur
I just won "White Mischief" on DVD from ebay.
Love that movie. I love the scenery and the scrumptious clothing and hairdos from that era.
Not to mention the two main stars, Dance and Scacchi were both gorgeous.
Sarah Miles was a hoot: "Not another fucking beautiful day!"
"Lawyers ... wouldn't this be a prior restraint case? And arent't the standards for prior restraint really fucking high (e.g., you can't publish troop movements)? This has nothing to do w/security.
res ipsa loquitur | 09.10.05 - 3:25 pm | # "
I think it would only be a prior restraint case if the press had the numbers and were being enjoined from publishing it.
The government having the data but not releasing it wouldn't really be a prior restraint issue, probably a FOIA statutory issue.
Hold that troll shit cleanup, FEMA's on the way.
Hello?
abyss--called Verizon. Monsieur and I are donating 500 anytime minutes from our plan to a family for the next 12 months + a phone. (We have 1000 anytime, and we will cover the costs).
"I don't think the people on the right undertstand that these people had nowhere to go. The Superdome and Konvention Senter were at kapacity and no other state had agreed to take the evakuees."
That's the "let them eat cake" syndrome. Completely understandable to wingnuts.
The last resort of a desperate Bush worshipper: its the corproate media's fault. Of course.
The media decided to ignore all the images of 9/11, but they want to show us the dead in New Orleans because they think it will hurt Bush
I resent that
From NTODD..."They acted according to their own plans, dipshit, and those plans assumed that the Federal response would be something more than Bush strumming a guitar..."
Bush has been harping on an "ownership society" of late. It makes me wonder if the slack-jawed response from FEMA is part of that "ownership society"...everyone must make plans in the event of an emergency and not expect the government to be there at a moments notice. Kinda like "No Child Left Behind"...a mandated but non-funded federal action required of all school districts.
There may be more to this lack of federal response that bears some serious questioning.
regards
.
Hey, Playbill just emailed me to say I could get Spamalot tickets for $29!
3 days and counting...
Nim,
I wouldn't be to suprised if wingers started latching on to that belief.
Soon THE BUSES!!! THE BUSES!!! will be used as often as WE PAINTED THE SCHOOLS!!! WE PAINTED THE SCHOOLS!!! as an indicator that the cons have got nothing.
I'm already hearing that from local wingnuts.
I deflect it by noting that EVEN if Nagin was incompetent, it doesn't excuse the feds from failing to bring in supplies for those people in the superdome.
Everyone in the fucking world knew they were there on Sunday. There's no excuse for letting them run out of supplies.
" The media decided to ignore all the images of 9/11"
What's this 9/11 of which you speak? I don't remember hearing about it, or seeing it happen live on television.
because you are a fucking stupid fuck
you sure you're not a NYer?
Thers,
I'm going back to the "c".
The media decided to ignore all the images of 9/11, but they want to show us the dead in New Orleans because they think it will hurt Bush
What rock were you living under that you didn't see a billion and two photographs from 9/11? both still and video?
You are still too stupid to live.
Hey, I think I finally got a handle figured out
GOPert has not figured out that Bush doesn't need any help in hurting himself.
9/11 pictures: media decides whether or not to show them.
Katrina pictures: government says media cannot take them.
Internet Libertarians: wankers.
http://www.wndu.com/news/082005/.../
news_44400.php
"Packing winds of 165 miles-per-hour, hurricanes Katrina is barreling toward the 'Big Easy'.
Now, New Orleans residents are under mandatory evacuation orders.
Traffic leaving the city is gridlocked for miles.
To speed evacuations, both sides of some roads are open only to outbound traffic.
All flights in and out of New Orleans are canceled."
"Thousands of people made their way to the New Orleans Superdome. Some came on buses with special lifts for the handicapped, while others came on foot.
They are refugees of Katrina who are stranded and are not able to evacuate the city.
"We don't have transportation, so this was our only choice, to come up here," said New Orleans resident Emily Richardson.
"In 49 years of living here I have never seen anything like this," said Collet Austin, another New Orleans resident who is stranded.
The Superdome is a considered shelter of last resort."
This is a NBC report dated August 28.
Is it rude to talk about one blog in another blog's comments? Feels adulterous, somehow:
Oh, well, one last time, re a picture of Bush after Katrina....
"This shot is incredibly robust in terms of symbolism. The photo -- from yesterday -- shows George Bush in full "damage control" mode entering a press briefing to reframe the dismal results of the Administration's Iraqi constitution effort.
Because the meeting took place in Bush's aircraft hanger in Crawford, it seems the photographer's vantage worked substantially to the President's disadvantage. If Bush's policies are shrinking in popularity, this image might well serve as visual documentation. (At the same time, if the PR team decides to hang curtains in a hanger, they shouldn't be surprised if their man ends up looking like a midget.)
I'll probably stop now.
abyss--called Verizon. Monsieur and I are donating 500 anytime minutes from our plan to a family for the next 12 months + a phone. (We have 1000 anytime, and we will cover the costs).
Sallyh | Email | Homepage | 09.10.05 - 3:27 pm | #
That's great, Sallyh--can you imagine trying to find an apartment or job without a phone number? It would be impossible.
ruppet is so fucking stupid, he is competing with cog for stupid troll of the year award
these trolls mold their behaviour on Bush, so no wonder they are socoipathic and thick as two short planks.
The media decided to ignore all the images of 9/11, but they want to show us the dead in New Orleans because they think it will hurt Bush
Yeah, they ignored all images of 9/11. When exactly did you have your fucking pea brain fucking removed by a fucking quack, you fucking stupid fucking goatfucker?
I want Moad - Dib to come to EschaCon II: This Time it's Personal.
Katrina pictures: government says media cannot take them.
it wasn't just a ban on photos, it was a ban on the media observing the body recovery at all. No access whatsoever.
The gov has already decided not to fight the CNN suit, so the press will be allowed to observe the process.
What rock were you living under that you didn't see a billion and two photographs from 9/11? both still and video?
We were tqlking about 9/11 coverage yesterday, remembering how many times they showed the second plane hitting thr tower.
Again and again and again, until it was etched in one's mind.
Which is what they wanted, of course.
Saving New Orleans' animals
In the wake of Hurricane Katrina, the fate of thousands of abandoned or missing animals was a low priority compared with human safety.
But as the search for the remaining human survivors nears an end, there is growing attention on one of the largest animal rescue efforts the US has seen.
Yet the fate of their pets is a hugely emotional issue for many people who survived Katrina and its aftermath.
With security restored in New Orleans and the waters slowly receding, thousands of volunteers from all over the US are in Louisiana to help reunite people and their animals.
I deflect it by noting that EVEN if Nagin was incompetent, it doesn't excuse the feds from failing to bring in supplies for those people in the superdome.
Why didn't the Mayor have food in the Superdome from the beginning?
Gary Ruppert:
Air drops of MRE's and water could easily have, and should have started within 24 hours. The Brits and we did it in Berlin in 1948, why not in the middle ofour own country in 2005?
"Thanks for calling FEMA . We're a little busy right now , so please select one of the follwing options.
If you contributed to Bush Cheney 04 push one .If you are waiste deep in burning chemical soup full of urine and feces , and or a burning oil slick and have found a quarter and a payphone that works and require evac for you or your family , go fuck your self. If you have noticed looters and they are white people looking for food , press 3. If they are Black people stealing stuff , press 4 .
If you have a cadaver in need of disposal , please wait on the line . Current wait time , due to staffing cuts , is 4.5 hours. Thanks for calling FEMA"
I need to go hook up my new digital cable box. I'm rather dull in the head so it could take the better part of two hours. See you soon.
abyss--that's what we figured. At least this way they have a contact point.
We have unlimited nights and weekends, too, so they're free to go wild there, and if 500 anytime isn't enough, we'll go higher.
you sure you're not a NYer?
Fucking'a, bubba.
I want Moad - Dib to come to EschaCon II: This Time it's Personal.
His name is a killing word, which could come in handy.
not only can't one not find an apartment or anything else without a phone, but now those people "lucky" to survive this Bush massacre will have to have a bank account first before they can receive their $2k - no more debit cards. FUCKING SICK! Most have to ID, no nothing. Stupid and VILE!
I just won "White Mischief" on DVD from ebay.
simels and Terry C .. I'm tempted to tell Moonbootica to go rent "White Mischief" so she can get a load of those crazy Brit aristocrats hiding out during WWII, but I'm afraid she'd get in trouble just for watching it.
In other words, Moonbootica, definitely see it.
Again and again and again, until it was etched in one's mind.
Which is what they wanted, of course.
Still not enough, apparently.
why does the moon hate america? has the moon gone islamic? will the bushbot christians condemn the crescent in it's next phase?
only in america.
-J.T.
you fucking stupid fucking goatfucker?
Yowsa!
The Government was in the right to restrict the media from New Orleans. For one thing, nothing in the Constitution prohibits that action.
res ipsa I think something could be worked out
His name is a killing word, which could come in handy.
Only in the David Lynch version.
Yeah, they ignored all images of 9/11. When exactly did you have your fucking pea brain fucking removed by a fucking quack, you fucking stupid fucking goatfucker?
NTodd's holding back again.
And we have nationwide coverage, which could be helpful for persons trying to locate family and friends.
I want Moad - Dib to come to EschaCon II: This Time it's Personal
If you guys come back to Philadelphia, I'm sure we could rent out the Blue Horizon Gym for a bare knuckles boxing match.
We shouldn't worry too much about photographs not getting out.
In this day of amazing zoom lenses, camera phones and other easy methods of digital photography there are gonna be photographs.
And you can bet there are going to be natives who are pissed off enough to make sure they DO get out.
The world and the country needs to see them.
This particular "Gary Ruppert" troll has to be a parody.
Nobody could be that stupid.
Air drops of MRE's and water could easily have, and should have started within 24 hours. The Brits and we did it in Berlin in 1948, why not in the middle ofour own country in 2005?
Berlin wasn't underwater.
So, how would you drop MREs into the Superdome?
Bush's massacre -ethnic cleansing. War crimes at home. IMPEACH.
Still not enough, apparently.
One has to have a mind to begin with.
The trolls' heads are empty.
Kinda like "No Child Left Behind"...a mandated but non-funded federal action required of all school districts.
The way this is posted puts the line break between Child and Left. Left Behind. I always thought that was a strange name for a federal program, but now I get it.
4Legs--and the returning tourists are talking.
Why didn't the Mayor have food in the Superdome from the beginning?
They did. They just figured that if it was so bad that people were still there after 36 hours that FEMA would bring more help. They were wrong.
This particular "Gary Ruppert" troll has to be a parody.
Nobody could be that stupid.
Was wondering that myself...
They did. They just figured that if it was so bad that people were still there after 36 hours that FEMA would bring more help. They were wrong.
So even when a Category Five was headed right for New Orleans, the Mayor was not prepared?
Like I said.
The pictures are going to come out.
No matter how much retarded gary whines about it.
Gary Ruppert | Homepage | 09.10.05 - 3:23 pm
What a ghoulish, ghoulish man.
constitution or toilet paper - what's the difference to wingnuts. none.
Berlin wasn't underwater.
Bangs head on desk.
it was the FUCKING BERLIN AIRLIFT
Stupid and Ignorant. No wonder it still worships Bush.
The Government was in the right to restrict the media from New Orleans.
How so?
For one thing, nothing in the Constitution prohibits that action.
You're right, the Congress didn't pass a law to prevent it. But I don't see any prohibition of people going to a disaster area to provide coverage. And don't forget Amendment IX and X. I see nothing in the Big C that grants the executive branch or any other the power to tell us what we can and cannot photograph, see or read about.
Fuck you, you fucking fascist fucker of piles of dog shit.
"...to come to EschaCon II"
When its held in Central Europe...Paris, Zurich, Saltzburg, Venice, Rome...you name it.
I'm not coming back home til the crazies are all locked up, under guard, and heavily sedated.
regards
.
Ruppet can't be real, i mean i have never met anyone so stupid bar Cog.
In this day of amazing zoom lenses, camera phones and other easy methods of digital photography there are gonna be photographs.
How many journalists have been killed in Iraq?
4Legs--and the returning tourists are talking.
Everyone is talking.
Bush can't spin this.
There is of course the ultimate Python line that relates Directly to the FEMA fuck up , and i can hear it coming from ANY of the Admin; Bush, Scotty , Cheney , Brown , Chertoff ...
Swamp Castle:
"Lets not bicker and Argue about who killed who ...."
Or " 'oo killed 'oo " if you prefer the proper accent.
I think of this line everytime anyone mentions Spamalot and the raging irony ...oh the irony ......
If you do want to donate minutes and/or a phone, specify that it has to go to a family or individual, or it goes to an NGO or government official.
Ruppert is a christian fundamentalist.
During a categorie 5 Bush was on vacation, Chenney was mansion hunting and Rice was elbowing theater goers while laughing and buying $3k shoes (heard she was booed) - how prepared is that?
the Mayor was not prepared?
He was prepared. A Federal State of Emregency ahd been declared. FEMA was taking the lead. They had supplies and expected more to be brought in, if needed, after the satorm passed. FEMA fucked up & no help came for days.
Rove cannot smear a hurricane.
so Bush is confused and trashing his carefully crafted image.
Rove must be furious.
I'm not coming back home til the crazies are all locked up, under guard, and heavily sedated.
See? This guy is smart. That's why I want him to come.
Or as some know them: christofascist.
How many journalists have been killed in Iraq?
About 35.
Luckily for journalists, the troops in NO don't actually have rocket launchers with them.
My point is that the pool guy flying that heliocopter can take up a still photographer who can get photos that would make it look like he or she was standing right next to the recovery guys.
What are they going to do? shoot the copter out of the sky?
Has anyone noticed that the word "Constitution" starts with... a crescent?
Why should we base our government on such an islamofascist document?
"Lets not bicker and Argue about who killed who ...."
Been thinking the same since the whole "Blame Game" meme was unleashed.
Berlin wasn't underwater. So, how would you drop MREs into the Superdome?
And since 1948 the world's only superpower clearly hasn't come up with any amphibious technology that it has mired in the sands of Iraq, and can't put floatation devices on the food packets, and can't drop anything other than bombs with pinpoint accuracy at a big fucking stadium.
They did. They just figured that if it was so bad that people were still there after 36 hours that FEMA would bring more help. They were wrong.
So even when a Category Five was headed right for New Orleans, the Mayor was not prepared?
No, even when a Cat-5 was headed right for NOLA, the Mayor WAS prepared. That's the point, you fuckingfuckeroffuckingfucks.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/
2...ain799251.shtml
"They lined up by the thousands, clutching meager belongings and crying children. A few hours later, the power went out, turning the building into a hot and muggy mess. Then the part of the roof blew off."
"The Superdome opened its doors at noon Sunday, and New Orleans' most frail residents got priority. The stadium is by far the most solid of the Big Easy's 10 refuges for the estimated 100,000 city residents who don't have the means, or strength, to join a mandatory evacuation."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/
2...ain805856.shtml
"Superdome is surrounded by three feet of water. Inside, refugees from Hurricane Katrina are taking what they can get, even if it's just a breath of fresh air."
"National Guardsmen let some of the 10,000 people sheltering inside the arena take their bedding out onto the concourse, where it was cooler and the breeze was welcome. The soldiers made sure they didn't leave, though"
Three feet of water is no big deal for a amphibious vehicle and they could easily dropped food in waterproff coverings.
4Legs--I wouldn't put it past Chimpy to order press helicopters shot down.
Ruppet can't be real, i mean i have never met anyone so stupid bar Cog.
Moonbootica
Sloth, Gordo, Toby, Robert, Wycliffe....
And they so GLEEFULLY cling to that cluelessness of theirs.
They MUST be right. They CAN'T be wrong.
But they are, and don't want to admit it!
Why didn't the Mayor have food in the Superdome from the beginning?
Gary Ruppert | Homepage | 09.10.05 - 3:33 pm | #
Jee. That's BRILLIANT!!
Why have the fed's continually cut LGA to states and cities so that could have been done? Why hasn't the govt recinded that huge fucking tax cut for the wealthy to help pay for all of this shit?
And why is every damn liquor store here out of Jim Beam?
Sorry. Now I'm mad...
Fuck you, Gary.
What are they going to do? shoot the copter out of the sky?
No comment.
Yeah, the Democrats are responsible for a lot of deaths in New Orleans due to their lack of action and their inability to follow their own hurricane plans
It's the wingnut spin - revise history in their talking points and repeat, repeat, repeat over and over again hoping it'll drown out the truth.
Don't think it's going to work this time, though. Too much truth which overcomes the lies.
Rove cannot smear a hurricane.
so Bush is confused and trashing his carefully crafted image.
Rove must be furious.
Democracy Now had an interesting bit yesterday about how since the troops have arrived, the manipulation of the media is in full force (since, you know, they didn't have anyone to be embedded with). Rove and Co need the media to be beaten down in order to do any damage control.
Moonbootica; The Tr00!Z are not "for real". When they ask a question, it's not because they want an answer. When they make a statement, it's not because they want to inform us. They want to anger people, and get noticed. They want you to wonder about them, and they want me to explain them to you....
Oh, fuckity fuck fuck. I did it, din I?
Ruppert thought Paul Hackett was gonna lose in a "landslide."
Ruppert thought that the storm was not going to be a big deal to New Orleans.
And Ruppert once again demonstrates that he couldn't find his own ass with both hands and a flashlight -- not unlike Boosh and his crony-packed, impotent FEMA. Whether this Ruppert is a troll or a parody or whatever, it is pointless to argue with the idiot child.
Ruppert, have you ever been, or are you now currently a member of the christofascist party?
4Legs--wonder if camera phones will be a no-no soon? The phone I donated is a terrific camera phone and holds up to 50 pix.
Rove cannot smear a hurricane.
I heard that Katrina claimed to be in Cambodia at Xmas, but that's impossible!
Ruppert is a christian fundamentalist.
Ô¿Ô
Flaghead!
Three feet of water is no big deal for a amphibious vehicle and they could easily dropped food in waterproff coverings.
Of course, if all that hardware wasn't in Iraq...
" Has anyone noticed that the word "Constitution" starts with... a crescent?
Why should we base our government on such an islamofascist document?" --
Eli
I believe it was originally scrolled up like the Quran, too. And it magically pointed toward Mecca everytime it was thrown up into the air and allowed to drop on the floor.
I may have dreamed that last part.
Paging Basement Software Solutions...please pick up the white courtesy phone.
4Legs--I wouldn't put it past Chimpy to order press helicopters shot down.
Even chimpy isn't that stupid.
Listen, the press, and the photographers especially, are on the fucking warpath.
The story is coming out and Rove can't do a fucking THING to stop it.
At this point it's personal.
No help came for days because it was their opportunity to kill as many poor as possible and to re-create NOLA by Halliburton for Halliburton under Halliburton. And make billions from the misery of others.
Why didn't the Mayor have food in the Superdome from the beginning?
Gary Ruppert
And why doesn't Bush have a brain?
4Legs--wonder if camera phones will be a no-no soon? The phone I donated is a terrific camera phone and holds up to 50 pix.
I dunno.
There's no way they can control this.
Right. Time for me to visit my friendly neighborhood Brew Pub and pick up a growler of ale.
Laterz batsez.
This is Bush Regime's version of The Final Solution.
Bush:
The Genocide Preznit.
Both here AND abroad.
And why doesn't Bush have a brain?
His radioactive brain eating zombie of a VP ate what was left of it.
john; u asked yesterday about the smell of death. I left you a reply way down there somewhere. ( still in the comments under Priorities)
Ruppert, have you ever been, or are you currently a member of the flaghead party?
They believe in things that they don't understand. And we suffer.
(/Stevie Wonder)
4legs--you're right. They can't.
I bet people who do have phones and service have some pretty damning evidence locked away on their sim cards.
The stoooooopid trolls always seize on one thing and hammer it.
It's been The Buses now for the last 10 days or so. It's been debunked thoroughly about 1800 times now.
Fuck the trolls - they are what that 35% of batshit crazy is comprised of. They are cultists - they fucking worship The Worst President Ever.
They absolutely worship him.
They are delusional - and get worse as his numbers go down.
Trolls - y'all are a shrinking minority. The whole fucking planet thinks you are crazy, and you are.
The feds are starting the "rumor" (prep yourself) that "not as many" poeple have died, may be a lot less. They don't want the media there for many reasons, one being the destruction of human remains. Will someone in the future uncover mass graves in that area?
Economic Cleansing
john; u asked yesterday about the smell of death. I left you a reply way down there somewhere. ( still in the comments under Priorities)
A.Scott
Oh, right. I've been meaning to thank you for that.
Sorry I'm so late in doing so.
Shit, I can't for the life of me figure out why the mayor didn't have 300,000 meals all set up and ready to go when the evacuees got to the Superdome. Could it be because the federal officials in charge of the disaster relief efforts were incompetent cretins selected for their work on Genocide Warbaby Bush's re-stealing-the-election campaign? Or is it maybe because Bush himself refused any help unless the governor turned the state over to the feds? Or is it maybe because Bush and his cocksuckers hate the poor and downtrodden, justifiably if they're black and southern? Is there anything bushco can do to fuck up even more? I think not; they seem to have it all covered.
Let's make a list, per Bill Maher:
Bushco fuckups:
1. Cheney 2. Rumsfeld 3. Rice 4. FEMA
5. Cabinet 6. 8/6/01 PDB, followed by 6a. vacation and 6b 9/11. Several billion dollars worth of destruction, 3000 lives lost. 7. Osama 8. Afghanistan 9. Iraq 10. failed attempt to gut Social Security. Not sure if the fuckup is the attempt or the failure, your mileage may vary. 11. Failure to hold gas prices, in spite of "jawboning" option brought up by Chimpster himself 12. Loss of thousands of lives because of systemic failure of Republican federal government to react as mandated by LAW to Hurricane Katrina and subsequent flooding of New Orleans 13. Shameful and blatant attempts to 13a...continue fucking up and 13b...blame it all on the tooth fairy or anyone in office with a D after their names.
This list makes me tired. Add to it if you like. It seems pretty long, but I have a feeling I'm missing several dozen items.
Tena--I wonder if they worship Bush because he seems to a 'purer' essence of their own foul natures.
What are they going to do? shoot the copter out of the sky?
fourlegsgood
Like to see a good cameraman in a news-copter with a zoom lens get a shot of troops drawing down...make that "up" on them. That would get Holden a whole team of ponies.
Katrina shot itself in the ass apparently!
Well, I'll see you batses later for sci-fi blogging.
I'm going to go play with my new camera.
Economic Cleansing
A.Scott
The Dems need to seize this as a talking point and run with it.
Ruppet can't be real, i mean i have never met anyone so stupid bar Cog.
Moonbootica
Perhaps left unfed, the mofo's right hand would get tired of typing and we'd have some peace.
Sallyh has additional e-mail (and a mostly-unmolested bloggie).
.
Like to see a good cameraman in a news-copter with a zoom lens get a shot of troops drawing down...make that "up" on them. That would get Holden a whole team of ponies.
Yeah, me too.
In other words, Moonbootica, definitely see it.
res ipsa loquitur | 09.10.05 - 3:34 pm | # ,/I>
Word!
It's been The Buses now for the last 10 days or so. It's been debunked thoroughly about 1800 times now.
What is the bus lie? I have missed this one.
you sure you're not a NYer?
Fucking'a, bubba.
NTodd
We can always nominate you as an
honorary NYer. BTW, you're much taller than I thought you would be.
Tena--I wonder if they worship Bush because he seems to a 'purer' essence of their own foul natures.
==
Sallyh - if by "purer", you mean "richer", then I think you're on it.
It si economic cleansing - the fuckers have made a pact with the devil and he sent Katrina to help out.
At this point it's personal.
fourlegsgood
I've thought about this a lot. Bush really fucked up because this was New Orleans. People love the city and it was an American icon. If this had been, oh, Tyler, Texas, the rest of the country would have yawned, turned over and gone back to sleep.
But it wasn't - it was one of America's great cities.
He really screwed the pooch (and I have no idea what that expression means.)
Will someone in the future uncover mass graves in that area?
Some headline in 2007:
Mass Graves Uncovered Near Baton Rouge; Charges of Genocide Added as Bush White House War Crimes Trial Begins in Hague
Eli -- apologies if you already
posted this, but I'm dying of
curiosity -- who is the other
Eschababe who got the big hits along
with watertiger?
Just heard the first half of This American Life on KQED now.
Oh. My. God.
Those. Fucking. Motherfuckers.
It was a lot worse thatn I could have imagined. The entire sherriff's department of Gretna should be strung up on a row of gibbets. And any and all federal officials or members of the National Guard who were aware of what they were doing should be courtmartialed and dishonorably discharged.
Words cannot describe my ourtrage at the inhumanity of those people.
The FUX news counter-narrative about looting is just not going to hold.
There is going to be a reckoning for this, or what happenned in LA after Rodney King will look an afternoon tea social.....
If the buses had keys, drivers, gas full of people then where would they go? Maybe a roadside park on the side of the road only to be caught in a cat 1 or 2 in the complete open I am sure most motels were already filled with people of means
john - they'll blame it on Clinton.
"We can always nominate you as an
honorary NYer. BTW, you're much taller than I thought you would be." -- ql in ny
And more powerful, so I've heard.
BTW, you're much taller than I thought you would be.
Prolly because I slouch.
Yeah, I think Ruppert is a flagheaded fundie.
He really screwed the pooch (and I have no idea what that expression means.)
I'm sure Santorum could help you out with that...
Jeffraham--and you have a reply, the gist of which is, make it easy, even if you can't make it pretty.
sometimes I think Bush should do what Empedocles did.
The legend goes that he died by throwing himself into an active volcano (Mount Etna in Sicily), so that people would believe his body had vanished and he had turned into an immortal god; however, the vulcano threw back one of his bronze sandals, revealing the deceit. (There is, however, some evidence that he actually died in Greece.)
So, why does the media want to show dead bodies in New Orleans
What the media chooses to present is for the media to defend.
That the government would choose to curtail that choice is not defensible.
And anybody who agrees with this blatant show of prior restraint can as well take down their waving flag and use it as toilet paper.
Breed's Hill, Yorktown, Antietam, Gettysburg, Kettle Hill, Chateau Thierry,Tarawa, Hurtgen Forrest,Chosin,Khe Sahn are all background noise if the government always wins.
Ruppert is a christian fundamentalist.
Ô¿Ô
Flaghead!
fundie fellator
If the buses had keys, drivers, gas full of people then where would they go?
That's exactly the point. "Drive north" is the mantra, but what do you do when you have no food or water there? The Superdome was re-fit in the wake of Ivan to deal with just such a problem!
If the buses had keys, drivers, gas full of people then where would they go?
That's exactly the point. "Drive north" is the mantra, but what do you do when you have no food or water there? The Superdome was re-fit in the wake of Ivan to deal with just such a problem!
Shit, I can't for the life of me figure out why the mayor didn't have 300,000 meals all set up and ready to go when the evacuees got to the Superdome. Could it be because the federal officials in charge of the disaster relief efforts were incompetent cretins selected for their work on Genocide Warbaby Bush's re-stealing-the-election campaign? Or is it maybe because Bush himself refused any help unless the governor turned the state over to the feds?
Check this out. (Sept 6 entry)
blerb - I think there will be a reckoning, too. I've thought so since it became clear that the government had abandoned those people to die.
This isn't going away, trolls. This has just begun.
Your man is going down, hard.
Jeez, steve - I thought NTodd or Eli one said the two most hit pictures were both of watertiger.
They're not going to be able to stop stories like this from coming out:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/09...vors/
index.html
And it's going to fucking sink them.
Thanks to Jeffraham, COOKING LIBERALLY is now available at La Poissoniere's! Click homepage to order!
A friend weathered the storm in Abita Springs which is 44 miles north of New Orleans. They had 120 mile an hour winds, trees falling down, debries like sheet metal flying through the air, and the only reason that the house didn't get destroyed is that the trees falling down made a barrier. Imagine sitting on a school bus in 120 mile an hour winds with debries flying. Feel safe?
So, why does the media want to show dead bodies in New Orleans
Are you still on this subject, Ruprecht?
Well, GUESS WHAT. A FEDERAL JUDGE AGREED WITH CNN AND GRANTED AN INJUNCTION AGAINST ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS WHO
WANTED TO BAR REPORTERS FROM THE RECOVERY OPERATION.
Got that?
The government then gave up on the idea. So the story is a dead letter.
The truth of what happened in NO is coming out, you nazi brownshirt fuck.
Repent now, or you may just get tarred and feathered along with the rest of your foul kind.
Jeez, steve - I thought NTodd or Eli one said the two most hit pictures were both
of watertiger.
Tena | Email | Homepage | 09.10.05 - 3:58 pm | #
Misunderstood.
Sorry!
Jeez, steve - I thought NTodd or Eli one said the two most hit pictures were both of watertiger.
*handface*
Eli -- apologies if you already
posted this, but I'm dying of
curiosity -- who is the other
Eschababe who got the big hits along
with watertiger?
The top two pics are *both* watertiger.
From what I have seen on TV the only one happy with FEMA in MISS was the bBush lap dog Republican Gov he couldn't say enough about Bush and FEMA but the general public was very unhappy
Trollies, bird flu is coming but don't worry, Bush and Brownie are going to protect you.
BWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Ruppet can't be real, i mean i have never met anyone so stupid bar Cog.
Moonbootica | Email | Homepage | 09.10.05 - 3:38 pm | #
The wingnuts must be writing their own Katrina Turing programs.
simels is just drooling about his EschaCon crush...
I'm actually not even here, so
just ignore me.
It's been The Buses now for the last 10 days or so. It's been debunked thoroughly about 1800 times now.
Will someone tell me what this is about? I am going to see some wingnuts tonight and I need to be armed with all the best, most accurate debunkings.
simels is just drooling about his EschaCon crush...
that would be the stunning Jenny From the Blog, dear.
Right on Tena,
It took the destruction of an amazing city to wake people up to the culmination of 3 decades of conservative legislation and dissmantling of the commons.
Will it be enough? I sure as hell hope so, but...
I'll say this though- I've starting hearing my red-neck backwoods white-trasher family and friends curse Bush to no end! I get to act like the match in a powder keg- "Shit, you think that's bad! Well! Bushco has also done- A, B, and C" To which their heads look like glowing red orbs.
.
The wingnuts must be writing their own Katrina Turing programs.
Fortunately, our new Voight-Kampff technique is unstoppable.
Ask Gary about the Turtle in the Desert.
Eli - Where are the pictures of people like ChiDyke, Vicki, etc? All the pictures I have seen are mostly of the same dozen or so people. I thought about a hundred showed up?
Steve has a crush from the weekend? How cool is that.
C'mon, you guys.Do I have to take off my pants to get someone to talk to me?
I've thought so since it became clear that the government had abandoned those people to die.
Not only abandoned them to die. Our fucking government wouldn't even allow them to help themselves
There has not been a disgrace like this since Greenville Mississippi in 1927, when all the blacks were herded onto the levy to die.
This is not going to go away -- never. TAL is back on, gotta go....
simels is just drooling about his EschaCon crush...
that would be the stunning Jenny From the Blog, dear.
Yes, I know! Just saying that he was prolly thinking that watertiger was the #1 hit, and JftB was #2. Or something.
Don't worry, steve. Your taste in women is impeccable, despite the tendency to wear screw tops and drink elitist Pine-Sol...
Eli - Where are the pictures of people like ChiDyke, Vicki, etc? All the pictures I have seen are mostly of the same dozen or so people. I thought about a hundred showed up?
CD couldn't make it. I think I've seen some Vick pics, but I only took pictures at the Sunday picnic, and I think she was gone by then.
that would be the stunning Jenny From the Blog, dear.
Who was, alas, not at the picnic.
For what its worth, here's a couple of things I read today may help in the discussions that I haven't heard mentioned.
First, the Lousiana gov was able to get local and state school buses for evacuating people out of New Orleans. However, almost all the drivers were women and were busy taking care of getting their own families to safety. And where would they take them was an unanswered question.
Second, the mayor of New Orleans used the Superdome and Convention center as refuges of last resort. His pre-declaration of a national emergency before the storm hit was intended to alert the federal government to swept in quickley with the necessary aid and police/military forces to keep order. The City of New Orleans did not have the financial resources to handle the number of people they knew could not evacuate the city by their own means.
Finally, for a city or state to be financially able to handle a local and/or state emergency of such magnitude would require a very big tax initiative. As the initial costs of the destruction reaches astronomical proportions, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize extra local and state taxes for such an emergency would drain its populace poor.
I seriously doubt there is a city/state that would be capable of tackling severe storm damage issues without assistance from the fedral government.
regards
.
I think rupert is back in his cage or busy chomping down on a drowned wheelchair bound old woman in NOLA.
C'mon, you guys.Do I have to take off my pants to get someone to talk to me?
mena | Email | 09.10.05 - 4:04 pm | #
I think NTodd has the whole pantless
thing franchise.
Surprise, surprise. Lawyer fired for speaking about Rove.
AUSTIN, Texas (AP) - A lawyer with the Texas secretary of state was fired after she spoke to a reporter about presidential adviser Karl Rove's eligibility to vote in the state.
Elizabeth Reyes, 30, said she was dismissed last week for violating the agency's media policy after she was quoted in a Sept. 3 story by The Washington Post about tax deductions on Rove's homes in Washington and Texas.
Scott Haywood, a spokesman for Texas Secretary of State Roger Williams, confirmed Reyes' firing but wouldn't discuss specifics. He had earlier told the Post that Reyes ``was not authorized to speak on behalf of the agency.''
Reyes told the Post on Friday a superior told her that her bosses were upset about the article. Williams has raised hundreds of thousands of dollars for Republicans, including President Bush, who relies heavily on Rove for political strategy.
While Reyes said she didn't know she was talking to a reporter, she said the press policy doesn't bar her from speaking with the media.
``The policy allows us to talk to members of the media,'' she told the Post. ``The policy says if it's a controversial issue or a special issue, it needs to be forwarded on to someone else. Just talking to the media doesn't violate it, as I read it. ... Karl Rove didn't come up. It wasn't something you could classify as controversial.''
*sigh*
I'll be soaking in the tub if anyone wants me.
simels is just drooling about his EschaCon crush...
I only got a fleeting glimpse of Watertiger before Eschacon.
From the photo-essays that I've seen from the meetup, she is quite striking.
I already knew that she was a good soul.
Alright, John, good find. Looks like Chimpy's penchant for murder is finally getting some light on it. For all of their repeated talking points about Hagin and the governor of LA, not a one of them has come up with WHY elected democrats would wilfully let their constituents down (or drown, for that matter). I'm absolutely certain that under conditions of extreme danger and stress that anybody could make a mistake, or several, and even end up unknowingly killing people because of some failure or other. That seems to be different from refusing to go to work, which is the Bushco's case, piled on top of rank incompetence and lack of professionalism or any sense of responsibility.
C'mon, you guys.Do I have to take off my pants to get someone to talk to me?
mena |
Hi Mena (waves hand).
I am so fricking embarassed...
should have kept my big mouth
shut.
Repent now, rupert and you "might" not be thrown into the pits of hell, when you die.
(don't have any clue about the date for that, raging mobs may cause it sooner, but I think you'll die of Cardio Vascular disease brought on by late life cheeto and pizza binging)
Hi, Mena!
C'mon, you guys.Do I have to take off my pants to get someone to talk to me?
That could work...
And speaking of pix. Thank you all for taking and posting them. My only question is why is Mr. QL all over the fucking place and hardly any at all of me.
res, yellow school busses.
Hi Mena (waves hand).
Don't spoil it for the rest of us!
Ask Gary about the Turtle in the Desert.
Won't work: he had false memories implanted.
Where are the pictures of people like ChiDyke, Vicki, etc? All the pictures I have seen are mostly of the same dozen or so people. I thought about a hundred showed up?
CD didn't show up. There are pics from other people at the following sites:
* EschaCon2005 album (pics courtesy of NTodd, FeralLiberal, and Uncle Smokes).
* Spork's new place.
* Kenosha Kids' site.
Hi back, QL and WT!
Steve - for what it's worth, I think you two'd make a cute couple.
And fuck Haloscan: Old White Lady also has pics.
It took the destruction of an amazing city to wake people up to the culmination of 3 decades of conservative legislation and dissmantling of the commons.
And if not, how many more cities will it take?
The thing I find the most brain-dead stupid about the repeated "we see all those buses" under the water rant is the fact that not every bus in New Orleans was under the command of the local officials. jesus fucking christ, let's think about it.
There are buses and there are buses.
Aerial shots of buses under the water tell us absolutely nothing.
It's a big city, a tourist city. There are going to be thousands of buses in that city- school buses, city buses, tour buses, airport buses, rental car buses, etc. How de we know what buses that we're seeing underwater and whether or not those buses were part of the the available pool to be used for evacuees? Did the local emergency management plan say that officials could commandeer ANY and all buses?
Do I have to take off my pants to get someone to talk to me?
I've got some pants you can borrow...
* EschaCon2005 album (pics courtesy of NTodd, FeralLiberal, and Uncle Smokes).
* Spork's new place.
* Kenosha Kids' site.
Ahem.
Thanks to Jeffraham, COOKING LIBERALLY is now available at La Poissoniere's! Click homepage to order!
Woo hoo! Just did. You will notice that the email address is different than the one I use here, but when you see an order from Dearborn, MI, that's me!
Where are all these pictures? Also, I have a few I could put up if somone would hold my hand and walk me through it. (yes, I'm a big luddite baby)
...was a lot worse thatn I could have imagined. The entire sherriff's department of Gretna should be strung up on a row of gibbets
Aressted, charged and tried. If a jury lets 'em off, that's the way the cookie crumbles. Kevin Drum thinks this is the end of Humanity. I don't think it's quite that bad, but if these guys aren't brought up on charges, you can put a fork in America, 'cause we'll be done. This is a line we shouldn't cross. Yeah, I know it used to be that way, but that's the Past. The future lies the other way.
Or...Remember that map of a Blue North American Republic with a red Jesusland in the middle of it? Could still go that way. When that map came out some of the Jezonazis actually liked it.
Why didn't Nagin order hovercrafts to evacuate all the people in NOLA?
NYT:
The official autopsies of the flawed response to the catastrophic storm have already begun in Washington, and may offer lessons for dealing with a terrorist attack or even another hurricane this season. But an initial examination of Katrina's aftermath demonstrates the extent to which the federal government failed to fulfill the pledge it made after the Sept. 11 attacks to face domestic threats as a unified, seamless force.
RIL - The picture has 210 school busses. Do the math, in a perfect world ten thousand people could have left (assuming they have a place to go, drivers, gas, the busses work, etc).
That still would leave about 190k people to weather the storm.
Cheney's in Austin- who's going to go holler at him, as he "manages perceptions of the federal response?"
So, why does the media want to show dead bodies in New Orleans
To show that Bush Co. are indeed mass murderers.
http://www.kodakgallery.com/Slid...&Uy=nyvoby&
Ux=1
photo timeline.
-J.T.
We are all Bush Cultists on this bus.
Squeeze the wheeze.
ronjazz,
One thing in favor of the state officials is that they were quick to see they were overwhelmed by the size of the storm and its destruction. Realizing they were in over their heads with limited resources, they actively sought federal assistance.
regards
.
That NYT article has some stuff about busses ...
Have you guys seen this? a little bit of good news from NOLA.
http://katrinablog.msnbc.com/200...html#below-
fold
It seems they found the missing Miss Kitty. Who has since been reunited with her 2 legger.
Ahem.
Eli, I figured that chris/tx had already seen your pics, given the complaint about CD _et al_ missing...
Well, cancel that question. I fear to look, I take the worst pictures in the universe.
Hey, just checking to make sure Thers whored kid-blogging, at homepage (his, this time, not mine). Man, I gotta get some energy from someplace.....
What will it take to make you moonbats understand that those of us moderates like myself who actually believe in great American values like violation of civil rights, the commission of genocide on the poor, and good ol' fashion lynching are the vast majority in the greatest nation on God's Green Earth?
Yeah, the Democrats are responsible for a lot of deaths in New Orleans due to their lack of action and their inability to follow their own hurricane plans
Gary Ruppert
You know, Ruppert, I've seen you spout shit like this for months now. You're worse than a fucking college freshman. You can claim anything, but you can prove nothing. And you don't even realize that the country, belated as it is, is finally realizing how divorced from reality you wingnuts actually are.
Go to ThinkProgress.com and read the fucking timeline. Or go to PBS.org and read the fucking timeline.
Asshole.
Well, cancel that question. I fear to look, I take the worst pictures in the universe.
I thought they came out pretty good...
Why didn't Nagin order hovercrafts to evacuate all the people in NOLA?
NTodd | Email | Homepage | 09.10.05 - 4:14 pm | #
Why didn't Nagin order George
Clinton to send the awesome power
of a fully operational mothership
to evacuate NO?
Answer that one, Ruppert!
EVERYONE GO LOOK AT MY LINK.
It's a happy kitty story.
I was wondering today about our perky poster Minnie. Someone said they'd seen her at some other blogs recently; has she posted since Katrina?
"So, why does the media want to show dead bodies in New Orleans"
Perhaps for the same reason the Allies took pictures of the NAZI death camps.
regards
.
That's exactly the point. "Drive north" is the mantra
And North was Lake Ponchartrain...
Also, wasn't the military initially convinced there was no way into NOLA? And if there's no way in, how in the SWEET ASSFUCK JESUS do you get out?
If anyone listened to "This American Life" on NPR this morning, the opening statements indicated that FEMA was responsible for the lack of aid. I think the audio is probably available on their website.
MI5 head warns on civil liberties
Civil liberties may have to be "eroded" to protect Britons from terrorism, the head of security service MI5 has said.
In a speech made in the Netherlands on 1 September and put online by MI5, Dame Eliza Manningham-Buller said the world had changed and a debate was needed.
She said the July London bombings were a "shock", which MI5 and police were "disappointed" they could not prevent.
But ex-MI5 agent David Shayler said any liberties lost would be hard to regain and could make "martyrs" of terrorists.
Mr Shayler told BBC News questions still needed to be asked about how the 7 July suicide bombings happened.
Since I appear to be invisible I think I'll go away again.
I would blow George Bush right now, on national television. And FINISH (if you know what I mean).
Now THAT's being a true American.
oblivious , in denial , dangerous
Why didn't the Mayor have food in the Superdome from the beginning?
Gary Ruppert
He did, but they only had enough for 36 hours. Of course, FEMA was supposed to come before then, weren't they?
This sound like hyperbole right now even to me, and I was vaguely thinking about this last night, but I wouldn't surprised if at the end, Bush will have been responsible for more deaths than Hitler, one way or the other.
4legs! Don't you dare miss the soccer blogging!
shit, he's done eating.
I guess no one cares about Miss Kitty.
four legs good:
Don't go away mad..
Dot Dot Dot..
George Bush could sodomise himself with a dildo and the wingers would still support him and keep making excuses.
Mary, I'd already seen it.
Soccer blogging is EXCELLENT!! I expect birthday party blogging as well.
four legs, I sees yaz. Enjoy your new camera and say a big howdy to Maxx fer me.
Ruppert, go fuck yourself you stupid cretin.
George Bush could sodomize ME with a dildo, and I'd love him all the more.
t seems they found the missing Miss Kitty. Who has since been reunited with her 2 legger.
What a nice story.
I just alerted the FBI about some islamofacists pastries I saw at the store. They were crecent shaped and I think they have something to do with France.
I'll bite your kitty's head off and screw its neck.
Eh, they're just fixated on buses until KKKarl sends them the next talking point, but he's having difficulty parsing "depraved indifference" and "2nd degree murder" and "manslaughter" and "negligent homicide" into phrases that the cult can use to defend their god-king from his own non-actions. He's tried the "they're too stupid to leave" mantra, but that couldn't stand up against the evidence for more than a few hours, and the "blame game" seems to be biting them on the ass pretty good, since even Blowdried Brian Williams ain't biting. So, buses it is, until Monday, when it will be "why didn't the mayor go to everyone's apartment, tenement and house thgroughout the city limits and take them out of NOLA in his state-owned Crown Vic?".
And you still talk to the trolls. Liberals are such softies. Next, I suppose you'll want them all to be able to go back home to live, ignoring the preznit's mother, who has been there in the Astrodome, and sees that they have it pretty good, indeed.
Why didn't Nagin order hovercrafts to evacuate all the people in NOLA?
I don't know why he didn't just have all those people teleported out of the city.
four legs, I sees yaz. Enjoy your new camera and say a big howdy to Maxx fer me.
Okay! OT, but I think I need to report that lion kitty is so bushy now that he is now SFW.
Has anybody noticed this?
It appears that the Gretna Police were preventing the refugees from entering "Crescent City," saving them from Islamofasicm.
watertiger, that last comment was for you.
I think NTodd has the whole pantless
thing franchise.
steve simels
Nope. Whitley gots no pants, neither.
I don't know why he didn't just have all those people teleported out of the city.
Scotty died.
Man, I gotta get some energy from someplace.....
NYMary
From what you said, give it another couple of weeks.
dieselcreek - There's nothing so fierce as hatred that is the flip side of love or admiration. And that's what we're seeing.
SallyH and Jeffraham - Thanks! Ordered mine. Oh - it just occurred to me - I should have ordered 2.
back in a bit.
Thanks NTodd - Quite a few pictures in that album I had not seen before.
I had seen Eli's, Old white ladies, Kenosha Kid's, and the one at your site. The hotline blogometer had a nice write up with links to pictures at various sites:
http://blogometer.nationaljourna...l.com/
#eschacon
It's a happy kitty story.
Awwwwwwwwwww!!!
Scotty's not dead- he's stuck in a self-diagnostic teleporter script!
TV told me so.
.
Thanks for the link, 4 legs. YOu are very visible.
Thers was watching Return of the Jedi last night: Luke pulls his ship out of the swamp with his Jedi mind trick. Nagin should have done that.
Goddamn it - they were told to go to the Superdome to take shelter. It wasn't just a flood, you git.
The flood came later.
First there was a fucking Hurricane!
You can't fucking drive in a Hurricane.
Now shut the fuck up about the fucking goddamned buses, or I swear I will hunt you down and shove a goddamned bus up your ass.
chris/tx, I thought most of the press about EschaCon was pretty fair, with the obvious exception of the wholly made up Protein Wisdom crap.
What a nice story.
Well... actually not so nice. Seems the guy who owns the cat (and they're not 100% it's the right cat 'til he sees it) wound up in an unknown hospital before the two reporters actually retrieved kittycat. Now they're trying to track him down...
Cute cat, though!
Man, I gotta get some energy from someplace.....
NYMary
===
Are you joking, girl? You need some pastry and a nap!
Tena,
As always, eloquent and to the point.
Hi, all,
Driving by. (Work is not interfering with my fun today--it's Younger Child Soprano's fifth-grade social studies project, which I am supervising. She does the work, but needs a lot of guidance, since she is not at grade level.)
JeffPres--are you still there? Any news?
Nagin should of been a mind reader!
in fact he could of utilized magic beans and grown a beanstalk!
Now shut the fuck up about the fucking goddamned buses, or I swear I will hunt you down and shove a goddamned bus up your ass.
I think Tena maybe spent a little time in NY, too.
Isn't it past the stupid little twatlint's bedtime already? Geez.
mena,
Been napping on and off all day. I even skipped the Charlie Brown soccer game for it. But I think I'd feel better if I actually managed to accomplish something.
Now shut the fuck up about the fucking goddamned buses, or I swear I will hunt you down and shove a goddamned bus up your ass.
Nah, hit him! Hit him with the bus!! HIT HIM WITH THE FLAMING BUS MADE OF SHIT!!!
now trools are into necrophilia with dismembered animals.
so... same old, same old.
-J.T.
I thought most of the press about EschaCon was pretty fair, with the obvious exception of the wholly made up Protein Wisdom crap.
OK, the Protein Wisdom crap is the stuff I wanna see. What is it?
Buses, Buses, Buses. You hear me? I said BUSES! And I'll swing my cat by it's tail like a bolo! AAAGH! AAAGH! BUSES! They think we're crazy, but oh no, we're not crazy at all. AAAGH!
mommy?
the BBC Proms are rather good.
the Swansea event is playing the theme from the Dam Busters.
NYMary - I found it interesting that the first press I saw on Eschacon was the philly guy that mostly wrote about "first!" and "fuck Bush!".
The Hotline wrote something quite thoughtful, and actually, sounded almost flattering.
Here's the link to the Miss Kitty reunion.
http://katrinablog.msnbc.com/
200...ly_miss_ki.html
I played the video and Maxx just went crazy running around looking for Miss Kitty. LOL.
BTW new sheets...
dave,
I'm on Thers's laptop: the homepage here is metacomments. Go there, scroll down a bit to "The Right Jumps the Shark" and you can enjoy the PW crap, the resultant cross-blog exchanges between PW and metacomments, and a lovely picture of a scurvy-ridden mouth which, Thers assures us, is funnier than the PW post.
I know you all hate me, but you just don't understand what it's like to be me. Nobody listens. Nobody cares. I have feelings too you know. You think there's something wrong with me because I want George Bush to use me like a blow-up doll. Where's your so-called TOLERANCE? I wish the voices would stop.
OK, I found Protein "Wisdom" on my own.
When I got to the part where it complained that Andrew Sullivan was transforming in to a Kos diarist, I just fucking gave up...
"The media decided to ignore all the images of 9/11, but they want to show us the dead in New Orleans because they think it will hurt Bush"
Ah. Must be some definition of all that I am unaware of.
The fact that Nagin hasn't been bombarded by images of the buses shows that the media is biased against Bush and the GOP
It shows that the bus story is a load of bullshit. At maximum those school buses could have carried 13,000 people(this according to NBC news), while about 100,000 were stuck in city. Nagin did the only thing practical, which was to bus people to local shelters such as the Superdome. That plan was a success in that those people survived the storm. Those who subsequently died were killed by FEMA incompetence.
Based on the witty banter in the comments, PW is that most awful of unfunny things" unfunny things that *think* they're funny.
Kinda like Taco Bell commercials.
Well, one of the things about the Philly bloggers: they're mostly great. I really like Susie a lot, and the AllSpinZone folks, and several others. But blogging's a smallish town, and you can almost feel the visceral jealousy pouring out of some of them not just about Eschaton, but about EschaCon, which they could only see as weird and cultish because they really didn't understand much about what we were trying to do.
Air drops, moron. AIR DROPS. also by federal mandate, school buses don't have seatbelts (wouldn't wanna spend a few extra cents and protect the kids) and don't meet safety standards for commercial coaches. They're rattetraps on wheels and would have been blown about in a Cat 3 or higher.
Who knew that South Carolina flew the Afrika Corps flag?
-
Watertiger, actually I had suggested they use the Ground Effect Vehicles that the marines have. (Hovercraft, if you will)
The point is that there were a lot of things they COULD HAVE done besides nothing.
Coming at you from the state of Ohio. I would say Great State but . . . .
Yes, they should have air-dropped busses on the Superdomw, then let people float out in empty MRE packets.
Shorter Proteinwisdom:
All you have is hate.
Yawn.
Shorter Proteinwisdom:
All you have is hate.
More like Projection Wisdom...
"Boss, Boss....dee busses!"
- the trolls
I'm shocked. Simply shocked....
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050...nm/
contracts_dc
Firms with Bush ties snag Katrina deals
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Companies with ties to the Bush White House and the former head of FEMA are clinching some of the administration's first disaster relief and reconstruction contracts in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.
At least two major corporate clients of lobbyist Joe Allbaugh,
President George W. Bush's former campaign manager and a former head of the
Federal Emergency Management Agency, have already been tapped to start recovery work along the battered Gulf Coast.
One is Shaw Group Inc. and the other is Halliburton Co. subsidiary Kellogg Brown and Root. Vice President
Dick Cheney is a former head of Halliburton.
Bechtel National Inc., a unit of San Francisco-based Bechtel Corp., has also been selected by FEMA to provide short-term housing for people displaced by the hurricane. Bush named Bechtel's CEO to his Export Council and put the former CEO of Bechtel Energy in charge of the Overseas Private Investment Corporation.
Experts say it has been common practice in both Republican and Democratic administrations for policy makers to take lobbying jobs once they leave office, and many of the same companies seeking contracts in the wake of Hurricane Katrina have already received billions of dollars for work in
Iraq.
Halliburton alone has earned more than $9 billion.
Pentagon audits released by Democrats in June showed $1.03 billion in "questioned" costs and $422 million in "unsupported" costs for Halliburton's work in Iraq.
But the web of Bush administration connections is attracting renewed attention from watchdog groups in the post-Katrina reconstruction rush. Congress has already appropriated more than $60 billion in emergency funding as a down payment on recovery efforts projected to cost well over $100 billion.
"The government has got to stop stacking senior positions with people who are repeatedly cashing in on the public trust in order to further private commercial interests," said Danielle Brian, executive director of the Project on Government Oversight.
TWO BUSH APPOINTEES AT HALLIBURTON
Allbaugh formally registered as a lobbyist for Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg Brown and Root in February.
In lobbying disclosure forms filed with the Senate, Allbaugh said his goal was to "educate the congressional and executive branch on defense, disaster relief and homeland security issues affecting Kellogg Brown and Root."
Melissa Norcross, a Halliburton spokeswoman, said Allbaugh has not, since he was hired, "consulted on any specific contracts that the company is considering pursuing, nor has he been tasked by the company with any lobbying responsibilities."
Allbaugh is also a friend of Michael Brown, director of FEMA who was removed as head of Katrina disaster relief and sent back to Washington amid allegations he had padded his resume.
A few months after Allbaugh was hired by Halliburton, the company retained another high-level Bush appointee, Kirk Van Tine.
Van Tine registered as a lobbyist for Halliburton six months after resigning as deputy transportation secretary, a position he held from December 2003 to December 2004.
On Friday, Kellogg Brown & Root received $29.8 million in Pentagon contracts to begin rebuilding Navy bases in Louisiana and Mississippi. Norcross said the work was covered under a contract that the company negotiated before Allbaugh was hired.
Halliburton continues to be a source of income for Cheney, who served as its chief executive officer from 1995 until 2000 when he joined the Republican ticket for the White House. According to tax filings released in April, Cheney's income included $194,852 in deferred pay from the company, which has also won billion-dollar government contracts in Iraq.
Cheney's office said the amount of deferred compensation is fixed and is not affected by Halliburton's current economic performance or earnings.
Allbaugh's other major client, Baton Rouge-based Shaw Group, has updated its Web site to say: "Hurricane Recovery Projects -- Apply Here!"
Shaw said on Thursday it has received a $100 million emergency FEMA contract for housing management and construction. Shaw also clinched a $100 million order on Friday from the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.
Shaw Group spokesman Chris Sammons said Allbaugh was providing the company with "general consulting on business matters," and would not say whether he played a direct role in any of the Katrina deals. "We don't comment on specific consulting activities," he said.
"Can we no longer eat crescent rolls at dinner? And are croissants doubly bad? NTodd"
First laugh I've had in days, thanks
Am on other phone line talking the Pillsbury Dough Boy out of suicide.
OH MY GOD! THE MUSLIMS ARE EVERYWHERE! All the farms I pass have LITTLE BUILDINGS WITH CRESCENTS CUT INTO THE DOORS!
CALL DHS!
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City buses were ordered and used as ordered by the Mayor to evacuate before the hurricane. Many man thousands were evacuated in a very orderly manner. In fact that is how many were taken to the Superdome.
After the hurricane the Superintendent of schools and the school bus drivers had left town as they were told to do and the school buses were under water anyway. There have been many photos of the school buses and in the up close ones you can see they are half under water.
The mayor was holed up, trapped by the flood with one aid without phones or any kind of communication until the aid was able to manage to get the computer working and they were able to make telephone calls on the internet when some power was restored.
I can't imagine what else anybody thinks he could have done as he was trapped by flood waters, too, most of the time.
I always thought the palm tree and the crescent moon looked more Sahara Desert than South Carolina, but I never put together why.
That's funny.
Well the Christofascists are right to be upset - after all, crescent moons wouldn't even be possible without the OCCULT! (ok... occultation, but same difference)
It looks like an ad for a Vegas casino.
I have a CRESCENT Boulevard in my town.
I guess we should change the name.
(Riiiiiight)
Terry, it's worse in my home town. Buffalo. NY has thousands of brass markers in its sidewalks from 1880-1920 placed their by the contractors... beautiful - but the most numerous are CRESCENTS! Crescent Paving, which was so-named because the contractor's wife was from NEW ORLEANS, which is sometimes referred to by that name or something (I forget the story)
Thousands of crescents in our city's sidewalks - and all related to NEW ORLEANS!
Somehow it must be our fault.
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