I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Well, hell.
2nd, right be Mena. I got your back girl.
I'm in the mood for piling on all of em. BAstards.
ql - we're a hell of a team.
Keep piling on Fredo?
Noooooo problem!
After all...
Hurricane Katrina changed everything.
Now there are three of us. We will be invincable.
Yeah, Liberman is garbage
And it would help if I could spell.
The new guy just had a press conference and denied that FEMA is responsilbe for the body recovery -he said it is a state function. The EMS guy for the city of New Orleans specifically said it was FEMA
no wonder the bodies are still sitting there
mike brown is so yesterday
Bush is the main target, the whole pivot for the regime.
I wouldn't mind some Atriettes piling on *me*...
Don't you love it when the bullies start whining, "No fair".
This isn't a case of one bad apple, which I'm sure is how the Bushies will spin it. Bush doesn't run an administration; it's a Crime Syndicate. Al Capone is president.
I'd put hi on suicide watch, myself. how much can one take?
The new guy just had a press conference and denied that FEMA is responsilbe for the body recovery -he said it is a state function. The EMS guy for the city of New Orleans specifically said it was FEMA
Who was responsible for body prevention?
Brown was pleasant enough, if a bit opportunistic, Jones said, but he did not put enough time and energy into his job.
that's our guy alright.
Lets not forget to pile on Roberts. And then Gonzales, when they annonce his SCOTUS nomination.
"Did someone say "piling on"?"
JimmyJeff
could a pile of turds be put on Fredo?
Gee, I went to look at Eschacon photos, and I'm two threads behind!
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The new guy just had a press conference and denied that FEMA is responsilbe for the body recovery -he said it is a state function. The EMS guy for the city of New Orleans specifically said it was FEMA
Are you kidding? So this back and forth bullshit is still going on?
Fuck'em. Pile on until they're fucking buried.
OT, but reposted from below:
http://katrinablog.msnbc.com/ 200...ly_miss_ki.html
Video of Miss Kitty being reunited with her 2 legger in his hospital room.
maybe Bush has piles.....
Fun with FEMA mismanagement:
Drownie, You're Doin' A Heck Of A Job
Search code on NO homes. Red X with date at the top, search team ID on the left. On the right, obstacles by floor so 1-2 would mean there's something like rats or an overturned fridge on floors 1&2. The bottom are the dead, thanks to the pols. 7 with or without DB are human, LB for living bodies, k-9 for dogs.
NYT:
But Richard A. Falkenrath, a former homeland security adviser in the Bush White House, said the chief federal failure was not anticipating that the city and state would be so compromised. He said the response exposed "false advertising" about how the government has been transformed four years after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.
Take that, trollies!
piling on? bury the fuckers.
-J.T.
Why doesn't someone start pushing for an independent commission to put together a plan for the recovery that will be necessary for both the short and the long term, and not just filled with corporate types.
Unions, educators, bankers, builders, folks right across the spectrum should be involved.
Put someone like Jimmy Carter in charge, with someone like Colin Powell (yes, him) to start setting up programs and financing.
Take the whole subject away from the BushCo cronies right from the start.
The EMS guy for the city of New Orleans specifically said it was FEMA
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People can't turn away from this - it's too sickening and too close to home.
The thing is, this group of thugs is already way past the point where sane people can devise any sort of punishment that would fit their crimes.
Cronyism, folks. It's all about cronyism.
It happens that I know a bit about Southeast Asia: I want to tie Bush's management style to Suharto's. Is that wrong? The parallel kinda works for me.
in the Bush Junta its not what you know, its who you know.
Joementum just keeps popping up like some kind of old moldy wet sock.
It happens that I know a bit about Southeast Asia: I want to tie Bush's management style to Suharto's. Is that wrong? The parallel kinda works for me.
I'm not sure it would really resonate - I'd say to stick with homegrown corrupt assholes wherever possible.
Or South American banana republics, which I think we have a lot in common with now.
I think FEMA is only responsible for recovering bodies of people who died because of their fuckup. State and local authorities are responsible for collecting those who died because of their fuckup. And to determine which is which, the individuals should get themselves to the DMORT facility where they can be processed, and then the "responsibility for dead body" form (the FU-0311/21) needs to be filled-out in triplicate and forwarded to Mike Brown in DC, but please, for the love of all you hold dear, make sure to have it stamped by the proper coroner who has jurisdiction over the body, or you will cause a massive delay, and nobody wants that.
I think FEMA is only responsible for recovering bodies of people who died because of their fuckup. State and local authorities are responsible for collecting those who died because of their fuckup. And to determine which is which, the individuals should get themselves to the DMORT facility where they can be processed, and then the "responsibility for dead body" form (the FU-0311/21) needs to be filled-out in triplicate and forwarded to Mike Brown in DC, but please, for the love of all you hold dear, make sure to have it stamped by the proper coroner who has jurisdiction over the body, or you will cause a massive delay, and nobody wants that.
Hungry. Must eat, or pass out. Be back later.
♥
Here's another juicy tidbit NYT article:
Even so, the prospect of a major hurricane hitting New Orleans was a FEMA priority. Numerous drills and studies had been undertaken to prepare a response. In 2002, Joe M. Allbaugh, then the FEMA director, said: "Catastrophic disasters are best defined in that they totally outstrip local and state resources, which is why the federal government needs to play a role. There are a half-dozen or so contingencies around the nation that cause me great concern, and one of them is right there in your backyard."
I'm not sure it would really resonate - I'd say to stick with homegrown corrupt assholes wherever possible.
Oh, boo. Well, it's not like there's not enough of those.
How about, to avoid the appearance of impropriety, no Bush campaign contributor can be appointed to a federal position? How about we bar any corporation in which any member of the gov't owns stock from pursuing gov't contracts? Just for a year, say. Think how many problems that would solve!
This may have been mentioned already- I'm just listening now to This American Life, Ira Glass' PRI show. He said they decided to let people who were in New Orleans tell their stories in a much longer format than you get on the TV news.
Their experiences are horrifying, enraging, shameful - everything we've been hearing and worse, plus given in first person from people who there. I strongly recommend catching it on your local station or download it when it's up next week. Truly compelling radio.
Time now to start examining all the resumes of Bush's hires. Before they make a mess of something important, too.
In response to FEMA not being responsible for body recovery I posted this yesterday morning
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Interesting...
Today's Times -Picayune has this note
A private firm, Kenyon Worldwide Disaster Management,
has been hired by FEMA to coordinate the recovery of
bodies in Orleans, Jefferson, St. Bernard and
Plaquemines parishes.
Turns out Kenyon is a division of Service Corporation International (SCI) which owns around 1200 funeral homes.
SCI is the company involved in the 1999 scandal involving Bush while he was governor of Texas, aka Funeralgate
http://www.tpj.org/Lobby_Watch/f...ch/ funeral.html
http://www.salon.com/news/featur...1999/09/29/sci/
http://archive.democrats.com/vie...m/
vie...iew.cfm? id=1292
Bush's point man in this was one Joe Allbaugh
And so it goes...
Go caption this photo...I dare you...
http://socialitelife.com/mt/
arch...ption_it_71.php
Are you kidding? So this back and forth bullshit is still going on?
res ipsa loquitur
Baby, I keep telling you - there is no federal government. There has been no federal government to speak of since Clinton's administration was dismantled.
Anyone who was at all well-informed, competent and/or decent, quit long ago.
The reason this is all nothing better than chaos is because no one knows what the fuck is going on because there is no one to be in charge. Someone has to be in charge, in this case it's FEMA by law and FEMA doesn't exist.
The mayhem in the gulf states does not make me happy, really, the exact opposite. That the fault of not addressing the anticipated needs of a category 4 hurricane lies at the feet of this administration shows me, once again, they are not for equality all citizens of this country.
OT: Afghan defence chief escapes shooting
Afghanistan's defence minister has escaped an assassination attempt made on his convoy while another minister and the army chief survived a helicopter crash in a day of near-misses.
Defence Minister Abdul Rahim Wardak had just left Kabul airport at 9.25am (0455 GMT) in a helicopter when his car was fired on by four men in combat uniform, ministry spokesman General Mohammed Zahir Azimi said.
The minister was unhurt.
Nine suspects, all Afghan soldiers, were arrested in connection with the shooting, Azimi said.
"It is clear that it was an assassination attempt on the defence minister," he said.
Go caption this photo...I dare you...
Great Scott!
I... have no words.
Everyone should check out the Americablog's pictures of people in NO lined up around the blocks for six hours for food stamps. Not food, but food stamps. This country is so fucking doomed.
The gradual Erosion of standards results in
John Gibson being called an anchor man
Ayn Coulter being called a pundit
Brown being called a Director
This being called a Government
Totally OT, but I love this about the compound: I had been noticing a large clothesline with metal t-shaped poles at each end for some time. It has a two looping wires with a pully. I hadn't thought much about it except for its intrinsic quality but I realized I can start drying my heavy material items on it like blue jeans and all, which take longest to dry. Should save alot of energy.
RealTexan,
There's a lot about SCI in Molly Ivins book, Shrub, as I recall.
And aren't they the model for the evil conglomerate that wants to take over the Fishers in the first several seasons of Six Feet Under?
I can name several large events that are likely to happen.
Earthquakes in N. and S. Cal,
Mt. Ranier in Seattle.
Yellowstone???
more Hurricanes across the east coast (is NY ready even now?) and in the Gulf states.
Blizzards in almost any part of the lower 48 states. the gulf states probably would never have a strong blizzard, but even a deep snow would cause much disruption and deaths.
Sorry for the bad links, here are the good ones
http://www.tpj.org/Lobby_Watch/f...ch/
funeral.html
http://archive.democrats.com/vie...iew.cfm?
id=1292
So "brownie" keeps his job and salary. He'll quietly resign in a few months. A year from now he'll be pulling down twice what his FEMA salary was because that's the way cronies take care of each other.
BTW I'll bet no one ever called him "brownie" before Bush struggled to create an illusion of familiarity with the guy last week. Asshole.
landslide
But he's from Guymon and he goes to church!
Dunno what else anybody could want.
Corrupt from stem to stern.
Just unbelievable.....
Cronyism, folks. It's all about cronyism.
yup. It's bad enough that Brownie is incompetent and unqualified for his job (same goes for Pat Rohde and other top people there) but the real scandal is the cronyism.
How many other key government jobs are filled with capaign photo ops organizers or someone's college roommate? All of them?
Go caption this photo...I dare you...
Why didn't you warn me it was bat day?
I just need some wooden clothes-pins...
Time now to start examining all the resumes of Bush's hires. Before they make a mess of something important, too.
Echidne of the snakes
Check Josh's TPM site on the FEMA Seattle guy...same crap.
Firms with Bush ties snag Katrina deals
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Companies with ties to the Bush White House and the former head of FEMA are clinching some of the administration's first disaster relief and reconstruction contracts in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.
At least two major corporate clients of lobbyist Joe Allbaugh, President George W. Bush's former campaign manager and a former head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, have already been tapped to start recovery work along the battered Gulf Coast.
One is Shaw Group Inc. and the other is Halliburton Co. subsidiary Kellogg Brown and Root. Vice President Dick Cheney is a former head of Halliburton.
Bechtel National Inc., a unit of San Francisco-based Bechtel Corp., has also been selected by FEMA to provide short-term housing for people displaced by the hurricane. Bush named Bechtel's CEO to his Export Council and put the former CEO of Bechtel Energy in charge of the Overseas Private Investment Corporation.
BTW I'll bet no one ever called him "brownie" before Bush struggled to create an illusion of familiarity with the guy last week. Asshole.
Bush probably couldn't remember his first name.
The Bush Legacy: Ineptitude - Indifference - INCOMPETENCE!
ah yes. the future might be costa rica and a benelli nova pump
THE PRESS WANTS TO SHOW BODIES from Katrina. It didn't want to show bodies, or jumpers, on 9/11, for fear that doing so would inflame the public.
I can only conclude that this time around, the press thinks it's a good thing to inflame the public. What could the difference be?
What is revealed clear as day is that George Bush does not give a shit whether this country is protected from natural disasters, or anything else for that matter. The indictment is of Bush for reckless disregard for his oath to preserve, protect, and defend.
Oblivious - In Denial - DANGEROUS!
Ô¿Ô, I'm jealous. Those old well made clothes lines are tops. I'm still trying to get one of my masonry buddies to fix up a proper hook so I can use my pull out line - it's not nearly as good. Just don't get all over enthusiastic and try to dry your towels outside - they just get hard and scratchy.
How utterly shameful. From CNN's Politics Section, I see this story. Does anyone know if they're talking about it on the air?
From CNN.com:
Firms with White House ties get Katrina contracts: FEMA taps Halliburton subsidiary, Shaw Group, Bechtel for cleanup
rather: T-shaped poles.
jojo - proof. Now. Lestwise, blow it out your stupid fucking ear.
I'll bet no one ever called him "brownie" before Bush
NO, I think he's the type of dude who's gotten where he is cos he does brown nose so much.
wingnuts head will explode when they read this
Gay cowboy film rides off with Venice Golden Lion
VENICE (Reuters) - Ang Lee's "Brokeback Mountain," a tale of homosexual love in the mountains of Wyoming, won Venice's Golden Lion on Saturday, beating film festival favorite George Clooney in the race to take the top prize.
The latest movie by the director of "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" and "Hulk" is adapted from a story by Annie Proulx and stars Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenhaal as love-struck cowboys whose forbidden affair begins in 1963 and ends 20 years later.
Taiwan-born Lee described "Brokeback Mountain" as a story of love against adversity. Independent and low-budget, like several U.S. entries at the festival, it was filmed in Canada to save money.
"After two big movies, I decided to make a small movie that really moved me," said Lee, who flew back from the Toronto Film Festival to take the award.
"I have the impression this is the most auteur-specialist of all film festivals and I never thought I would come here. I can't tell you how proud I am."
I am just horrified. People that sign a petition related to gay marriage are about to be publicly "outed" -- with their names and addresses published on the Web, so that every ignorant yahoo out there can threaten them for exercising their right to petition the government. But no, this isn't a bunch of right-wingers trying to intimidate supporters of gay marriage:
A pair of gay activists are raising the stakes in the fight over same-sex marriage, vowing to post on the Internet the name and address of anyone who signs a petition to ban gay marriage and civil unions in Massachusetts.
``I have the fight in me now, and if people I know, or that I support, or that I do business with are on that list, I might not support them or their philanthropies or their businesses,'' said Tom Lang, who launched knowthyneighbor.org with his spouse, Alex Westerhoff.
Lang, 42, said he and Westerhoff, 36, are only providing via the Internet public information that any citizen could obtain at the secretary of state's office. But anti-gay marriage activists are outraged.
``We think that it is intimidation by no other name,'' said Kristian Mineau, whose name was listed as one of the first 30 signers of the petition. Mineau said he will explore the rights of people who have signed or plan to sign the petition.
``Certainly it raises my concerns. This is the first I have heard of it,'' said Mineau, president of the Massachusetts Family Institute.
Mineau and his wife are listed on the site, along with their address. Also listed: former Mayor Raymond L. Flynn; Dover Selectwoman Kathleen W. Weld and her husband, Walter Weld; and Richard W. Richardson, spokesman for the Black Ministerial Alliance.
...
Lang said he was not advocating that gay marriage backers use the Web site as a method of intimidating the signers, but rather as a way to ``open up communication'' on both sides of the debate. ``We are not telling people what to do. We are letting people become their own armchair activists,'' he said.
Oh yeah, and if a pro-life group put up a website listing the names and home addresses of abortion doctors, but claimed, "We want you to open up communication with them," I would believe that, too.
Go caption this photo...I dare you...
My God! A Negro!
I don't know about all my drawers and things hanging out there, yet...
I'm catching up, so looked for my FEMA flunkie for Texas, who happens to also be in Regional Director of LA:
Gary Jones
Acting Regional Director, Region VI
Gary E. Jones was appointed acting regional director of FEMA's Region VI in December 2004. Mr. Jones is responsible for administration of emergency management programs in the five-state region that includes Arkansas, Louisiana, New Mexico, Oklahoma and Texas. He is also responsible for oversight and implementation of response and recovery operations for presidentially declared disasters in Region VI.
In 1993, Mr. Jones was designated deputy regional director and has served as acting regional director on four other separate occasions. From 1983 until 1993, Mr. Jones worked in the FEMA Region VI Technological Hazards Branch, serving as branch chief and regional assistance committee chairman. The branch program responsibilities included Radiological Emergency Preparedness, Radiological Defense, Hazardous Materials, Earthquake Preparedness, Hurricane Preparedness, Dam Safety and the Chemical Stockpile Emergency Preparedness Program.
Mr. Jones has 41 years of government experience at the federal and state level. Prior to joining FEMA, Mr. Jones worked for the Arkansas Department of Health in a variety of emergency medical services positions and later served three years as the director of Arkansas’ Emergency Medical Services Program. Following his 13 years with the Arkansas Department of Health, Mr. Jones served as the Arkansas state coordinator for physician recruitment with the U.S. Public Health Service.
Mr. Jones holds a master's degree in public health administration from Tulane University and a bachelor's degree in education from the University of Arkansas.
From his bio, he looks well qualified.
So,
Why have we not heard of him or heard from him?
NYMary-
Yep,wasn't her name Mitzi or something like that?
Modo does a pretty good take down of hiring boobs for FEMA in the NYT's - I get tired of her endless snark though - I guess in her defense it is pretty hard to be pithy and find something funny to say - Maybe she could just be pithy
Seems to me she is full of pith
Bush is the guy who had to have a bigger plan than Leiberman's bill and made FEMA part of homeland security - There were lots of warnings that it would gut Fema's ability to respond to natural disasters- these people listen to no one.
Bush and his short-sighted admin are to blame for the incompetency of FEMA - and still it would not have been nearly as bad if he had just quit vacationing and gotten down to the business of taking care of the American people - sadly, he couldn't be bothered
How shameful. From CNN.com's Politics section, I see this story. Does anyone know if they're talking about it on the air?:
Firms with White House ties get Katrina contracts: FEMA taps Halliburton subsidiary, Shaw Group, Bechtel for cleanup
[Sorry about the repost]
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OT ... Are there any "Six Feet Under" watchers here? I told ya'll I am making my way through the the show on DVD.
I'm up to the beginning of season 3. I need someone to tell me if Nate gets back together with Brenda, because I cannot stand this granola-head played by Lily Taylor. I would rather see him having a passionate relationship with a nut than a snooze-o-rama with Crunchy Lisa, who is nuts in her own special way.
I can only conclude that this time around, the press thinks it's a good thing to
inflame the public. What could the difference be?
jojo | 09.10.05 - 4:51 pm | #
That you're a flaming asshole?
Go caption this photo...I dare you...
Sorry can't. Sometimes a picture IS worth a thousand words.
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NTodd,
Same yayhoo's been posting the same crap with the same phrasing all day. Not even worth responding to.
When you visit, should we plan a detour to the cider mill and donut factory?
And now for something completely different... cute pussycat paintings!
I'll dry my underwear with a dryer but t-shirts and jeans, I'll do there....
Talking Point:
Bush can't fire Brownie because he'll go to the press and tell how he spent days desperately trying to reach the vacationing President to get the executive powers he needed to mobilize the military. This is part of the coverup that directly relates to Bush.
p.s. Remember, talking points don't have to be based on truth--just compelling enough to get people repeating them at the office, church functions, talk radio, etc. If the opposition has to spend time disproving them, all the better. Don't look at me, Karl Rove made the rules.
I, for one, would like to thank Mr. Lieberman for the intense 49 minutes of grilling.
Those steaks were delicious.
When you visit, should we plan a detour to the cider mill and donut factory?
Mmm...cider'n'donuts...
... cute pussycat paintings! dave™©®
How do they hold the brushes?
RealTexan,
Mitzi Dalton Huntley. A fine model of Texas womanhood, especially when she murdered that crazy woman's aunt with a golf ball.
res,
Be careful what you wish for, honey....
RIL - Nate end up with Anne Coulter in season four, and Malkin in season five.
There was no way I could have used all those buses. What was I supposed to do? Use them to transport people to higher ground!? Ridiculous.
Ô¿Ô,
I throw clothes from the line into the dryer for a few minutes and tumble them without heat. It takes the stiffness right out of them.
I'm up to the beginning of season 3. I need someone to tell me if Nate gets back together with Brenda, because I cannot stand this granola-head played by Lily Taylor.
Just keep watching. All will be revealed.
Season Three's pretty good. Season Four I wasn't too thrilled with. The just-ended Season Five might have been the best. "Ecotone" featured the best death scene ever.
Be sure to FREEP the poll. Currently 84% say Bush failed....
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9280.../site/newsweek/
or
http://tinyurl.com/d8wc5
Eye of the Political Storm
A new NEWSWEEK poll suggests President Bush could become Katrina’s next casualty.
res,
Be careful what you wish for, honey....
As I was typing that post I realized that I was talking about myself ...
THE PRESS WANTS TO SHOW BODIES from Katrina. It didn't want to show bodies, or jumpers, on 9/11, for fear that doing so would inflame the public.
Sigh. The press doesn't "want to show bodies" in NOLA, it wants to be free to do its job. FEMA wanted to bar them from observing the recovery effort.
I seem to remember seeing jumpers on 9/11 and many many times since.
The wilful delusion of the right is amazing. Would you say that 2+2 = 5 if that was the GOP talking point of the day?
It's especially hard to transport people away from a disaster when armed officials threaten to shoot them if they try to leave.
NYMary ...
I also want to know if Hunky Keith gets to be a cop again?
I don't want to get too excited about this, but the CNN and MSNBC websites have similar headlines up. The MSNBC one: "Firms With Bush Ties Snag Katrina Contracts."
Maybe they've finally caught on.
(apologies if someone's already mentioned this)
Damn it. I swear I closed that tag.
I blame Blanco, Nagin and Haloscan for my error.
And yes, let's not forget Lieberman's 42-minute ass-smooch that subbed for a real grilling into Drownie's qualifications at his hearing ...
RIL - Nate end up with Anne Coulter in season four, and Malkin in season five.
Well he does have a fling with that nasty nasty single mom, who's vaguely Coulter-ish...
res ipsa loquitur-
Skip season 4! Except the opening death for "In Case Of Rapture", my favorite all time one.
Gotcha CS.
When you visit, should we plan a detour to the cider mill and donut factory?
*grumble*
Will Rove 'suicide' Brownie, composing a heartbreaking note, etc., to make liberals look mean?
If he does, will Brownie's wife's name be misspelled, like in Cliff Baxter's suicide note?
Go caption this photo...I dare you...
http://socialitelife.com/mt/ arch...ption_it_71.php
jillian
Can't believe I'm gonna stoop to this, but...
Dude:
Ummm, that NTodd is HOT!
BB:
OMG! WHERE'S HIS PANTS!?
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Put someone like Jimmy Carter in charge, with someone like Colin Powell (yes, him) to start setting up programs and financing.
Take the whole subject away from the BushCo cronies right from the start.
For some time, the SBA has fulfilled this objective. After 9/11 they served as point.
Now? Well, turns out there were some big, big profits to be made - and the bill's come due.
"Congress to investigate 9/11 loan abuses
FRANK BASS and DIRK LAMMERS
Associated Press
WASHINGTON - Congress will investigate the "flagrant abuse" of a federal loan program designed to help businesses recover from the Sept. 11 attacks and make sure such problems don't occur with Hurricane Katrina relief, a key Senate Republican announced Friday.
Sen. Olympia Snowe, R-Maine, chairwoman of the Senate Small Business and Entrepreneurship Committee, announced the investigation in response to an Associated Press story Thursday that showed the federal program was so loosely managed that it gave low-interest loans to companies that didn't need terrorism relief or even know they were getting it.
"The apparent widespread abuse of loans provided through the Supplemental Terrorist Activity Relief Act is nothing short of an outrage," Snowe said.
The committee chairwoman said she would demand answers from both the banks that gave the loans and the Small Business Administration, which supervised the program.
"Congress must seek and find answers when confronted with a situation that represents a possible betrayal of the public trust especially at a time when the people of the Gulf Region need every resource available to recover," Snowe said. "...I intend to exert my oversight power to determine how such flagrant abuse could happen and to ensure that Small Business Administration loans truly go to those who need them."
The SBA guaranteed $3.7 billion in loans under the STAR program, bringing its total Sept. 11 assistance package for businesses to nearly $5 billion.
Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts, the committee's top Democrat, joined in the call for an investigation.
"This was a deliberate attempt to cover up White House budget gimmicks that left the SBA's largest loan program underfunded and on the brink of shutting down," Kerry said. "The administration asked SBA employees to bend the rules and steer regular loans through the program aimed at helping businesses impacted by 9/11."..." (Miami Herald)
res,
No. Is he a bodyguard to the stars yet? That might be season 4.
jojo was right, nothing but good clean fun over there at Know Thy Neighbor
outing homophobes is way way cool. looking forward to more of the same. participatory democracy and all that.
I've already done a heavy blanket that way and it dried faster than then it would have in a dryer.
Sallyh, is there any way I can buy a cookbook without signing up with paypal?
Incog - but I realized I can start drying my heavy material items on it like blue jeans and all, which take longest to dry. Should save alot of energy.
Oh darlin' - your sheets. They will smell so good.
If nothing else, hang your sheets to dry.
watertiger,
It'll still be open first weekend of October.....
In case of rapture is definitely one of the best scenes ever shot.
I forgot about the nasty single mom he met at therapy. It was kinda funny how she used him for sex, and he was like, I only thought males did that...
RealTexan,
Is that the one with the inflatable dolls? Genius!
No. Is he a bodyguard to the stars yet? That might be season 4.
Damn. That's what he really liked.
I'm in season 3. He's some sort of rent-a-cop for a gated community-type neighborhood.
In looking up Gary Jones, FEMA's Regional Director for LA, I ran across the other Gary Jones, General of LA National Guard. He caught flak for calling evacuees insurgents.
But, then there is this article from the small town paper where Jones is school superintendent.
Here's the important line:
State Adjutant Gen. Bennett Landreneau called Jones on Sunday (August 2
morning and assigned him the role of task force commander in charge of coordinating relief units, including more than 4,000 Louisiana National Guard troops, Jones said.
"I already had my stuff packed and ready to go," said Jones
"I can only conclude that this time around, the press thinks it's a good thing to inflame the public. What could the difference be?"
That the video of the towers falling was about all anyone could handle. But what do I know?
"There has been no federal government to speak of since Clinton's administration was dismantled."
Tina...you'd really be shocked at just how accurate you really are.
Without discussing details,I've been absent from the military-industrial complex for 14 years and since my return, I've see things that are outright shocking...I would never have thought I would see or hear things that occur regularly on a daily basis. And everyone is following thru as if its natural to do so. The religious BS at the USAF academy is just the tip of the iceberg. Without firm control from the Federal Government the military is drifting on a parallel course to the ship of state.
regards
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It was kinda funny how she used him for sex, and he was like, I only thought males did that...
Why won't anyone use *me* for sex, dammit???
Whoever cam up with don't thread on me should get a pony. At least a carrot for the pony.
Go fuck yourself, Mr. Cheney!
Go fuck yourself!
NYMary
That's the one, I loved it because it a couple of possible deaths before she met her maker.
The wilful delusion of the right is amazing. Would you say that 2+2 = 5 if that was the GOP talking point of the day? The Old Man From Scene 24
The example I have been using for a long time to explain the troll mindset to the nonblogobsessed:
Look! Here are two rocks- hold them. Now here are two more rocks - take them. Now how many do you have?
Troll: Rush says five.
But look - just look at what's in front of you!
Troll: You're a liar, a racist, and a moran. Everyone but the elitist liberal media knows there are five, and it's because you hate Bush that you deny it.
Personally, I have concluded that Zippy is right: Fun is three rocks.
The party of Liebermann, Clinton, Biden, and Dean is just as bad as the Repukes. All bow before their corporaate masters.
I have left the Democratic party for good, and will bejoining the Green party.
NYMary ... Does Rosie have a transitional object?
The poor suffer Katrina's landfall.
The rich reap Katrina's windfall.
The heavy blanket was stiff. I needed it to throw over and cover a recliner String's been scratching on. And clothesline drying doesn't leave any damp spots like a dryer does.
NYMary - I don't suppose that you are a little anemic from the pregnancy, and thus your tiredness?
res, keep watching. That's all I'm gonna tell ya.
The journey is worth it. So much more than what you're worried about now happens that when it's all over, you won't believe the sweep of it. Last season was kind of meh, but this season was majestic. Hard as hell to watch, gutwrenching, yes, but breathtaking television in the long run.
Go fuck yourself, Mr. Cheney!
Go fuck yourself!
The Old Man From Scene 24 | 09.10.05 - 5:05 pm | #
FREE DR BEN MARBLE!!!!!!!!
Tena, I intend to.
I love that sort of thing.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar | Email | Homepage | 09.10.05 - 5:01 pm
Bingo, GWPDA, which is why I think we might have to go outside the federal govt right now.
And the Dems would be well advised to start offering some solutions right now while the time is right.
Yeah.. the Democrats seemed to have no problems with Michael Brown's resume until now.
I guess they were too busy pandering to unions in 2002
Why won't anyone use *me* for sex, dammit???
One of my wife's acquaintances was using some guy with the Texans for sex. He got all bent out of shape because she would not ever go out in public with him. So he dumped her because he felt cheap. Then today she tells me he is back again. Guess he did not feel that cheap.
Why won't anyone use *me* for sex, dammit???
One of my wife's acquaintances was using some guy with the Texans for sex. He got all bent out of shape because she would not ever go out in public with him. So he dumped her because he felt cheap. Then today she tells me he is back again. Guess he did not feel that cheap.
res, keep watching. That's all I'm gonna tell ya.
I'm up to the one where the guy shoots up his office and they have a couple of the victims and the murderer in the funeral home.
mer--of course. Send me an email and I'll tell you how to do it 
no wonder the bodies are still sitting there
On NPR today I keep hearing that body counts are going to be lower than what they originally thought. So that means only 9000+ people died instead of 10,000+ people. Oh I feel so much better.
In the same story they mentioned that the media won't be allowed to film body recovery. OK, so wait... You mean there actually could be MORE than first thought and we won't know.
.
ruppet the stupid fuck is back....
Oh darlin' - your sheets. They will smell so good.
If nothing else, hang your sheets to dry.
And then - starch and iron them!
Mayor Nagin speaks out.
“Analyze my ass, analyze everyone’s ass, man. Let’s put the facts on the table and talk turkey. Why was there a breakdown at the federal and state level only in Louisiana? This didn’t happen in Mississippi. That’s the question. That’s the question of the day.”
Why won't anyone use *me* for sex, dammit???
I heard you were a tease.
Tena,
Possibly. But I do eat as regularly as my schedule allows.
res,
Yes. She likes to sit on Daddy's head. (Not making this up....)
Kris Jansing is hosting an ethics panel on MSNBC but I see no bloggers....
but there is a priest and a rabbi
The poorest area of New Orleans the ninth ward is very hard hit by the flood. Residents will need their homes completely rebuilt. This is the poorest section of the city. These are many of the residents who are now far from the city and have work and family pressures that will make keeping track of their property rights and rights to compensation for repair and rebuilding very difficult. People in California or other states that have been through flood repair should offer to mentor a
family through the process
A new NEWSWEEK poll suggests President Bush could become Katrina’s next casualty.
Litz
What's neat about that poll is that only 3% voted "Don't Know." That goes along with what the guy from Pew said on the Newshour last night. 70% of respondents said they were following this story closely. When was the last time 70% of the people ever followed the same story, and closely no less. I've said it before, but I'll say it again. The thugs really thought Americans would stop paying attention once the election was over. It didn't happen. People are still paying attention and they don't like what they see.
Still, can we survive 3 1/2 more years of these morons?
Guess he did not feel that cheap.
I could live with cheap. I'm already pretty cheap.
Yup bodies, bodies, bodies. All bodies, all the time, every channel. Only thing on TV these days bodies, bodies, bodies.
pie - Oh, can they be that cynical? Holy shit - I never considered that their reason for killing those people was because they elected Democrats.
I just remembered Dick Cheney's famous utterance to effect that all Democrats should be hunted down and exterminated. Jesus fucking Christ
“Analyze my ass, analyze everyone’s ass, man. Let’s put the facts on the table and talk turkey. Why was there a breakdown at the city and state level only in Louisiana? This didn’t happen in Mississippi. That’s the question. That’s the question of the day” - Mayor Nagin
Quote altered to fit reality
steve,
Ben Marble's got four of my favorite qualities: ballsy, hot, liberal, and a musician. And a new dad to boot! I can't afford his videotape, but I'll certainly support any cause to get him out of the clink! Is there one?
i may not like Blair, but jeebus I am so glad we don't have a leader like Bush.
GO FUCK YOURSELF, Mr. Dean!
From the Sept 6 White House Task Force on Hurricane Katrina Reponse, hosted at Lieberman's site.
DOT is operating bus staging areas at the Poker Palace Texaco in western New Orleans and in Lake
Charles, LA.
Bush gambled and LA, MS, AL lost.
I can't afford his videotape,
What's the bid up to? D'ya know?
Still, can we survive 3 1/2 more years of these morons?
No, I don't we can, unless we get very very very lucky.
No one gets that lucky.
Impeach the bastards - then try their asses.
Peter Uberhoff would be an acceptable Republican for the Recovery Team Head
Marble is in jail? On what charge?
I though Cheney's goons just handcuffed him for a period?
Ben Marble should never have to pay for a beer for the rest of his life.
I know I owe him one.
I'll certainly support any cause to get him out of the clink! Is there one?
NYMary
He's in jail (clink?)!??? What happened?
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Go fuck yourself, Mr. Cheney!
Go fuck yourself!
This is my brain. This is my brain fart altered to fit my unreality.
Tena--Bush will kill thousands upon thousands more if allowed to remain in office.
Marble's in jail because it's probably a crime to yell "go f--k yourself" to someone in public.
Sorry, I just feel compelled to say & post that every time Darth Cheney appears on my tee vee.
footloose,
It was over $2K this morning.
More:
While Nagin has previously said he didn’t think the slow response was related to the demographic of the overwhelmingly poor, African-American crowd that needed rescuing, his thinking has evolved.
“Definitely class, and the more I think about it, definitely race played into this,” he said. “How do you treat people that just want to walk across the bridge and get out, and they’re turned away, because you can’t come to a certain parish? How do resources get stacked up outside the city of New Orleans and they don’t make their way in? How do you not bring one piece of ice?
“If it’s race, fine, let’s call a spade a spade, a diamond a diamond. We can never let this happen again. Even if you hate black people and you are in a leadership position, this did not help anybody.”
Ben Marble was charged with Disorderly Conduct.
BushCo only reward orderly misconduct.
I loved the way he nonchalantly yelled at Cheney. I did not hear any anger in his voice. It was just speaking plainly.
9/11, 9/11, 9/11,9/11,9/11
9/11, 9/11, 9/11,9/11,9/11
9/11, 9/11, 9/11,9/11,9/11
9/11, 9/11, 9/11,9/11,9/11
all 9/11 all the time 36%
Chimpy's poll numbers are sinking, and it's all about the stupid incompetent losing his own base. I don't want to abolish the GOP, I just want it to get small enough that we can drown it in a bathtub.
NYMary:
He's in the clink?
I was just talking metaphorically
about freeing him.....
Or so I thought....
Bush's poll numbers are only down because polls are oversampling Democrats
I could live with cheap. I'm already pretty cheap.
Eli - Say, my old company, CBNV Services* might may be able to use you. Give us a call!
.
*Cheap But Not Vulgar Services, since 1979, 'Your Guide to the New World Order'
res,
Yes. She likes to sit on Daddy's head. (Not making this up....)
Well, why the hell not? I used to pretend that my dad was my pony. I have a couple of pics of him giving me rides. He looks like he's having a pretty good time, too.
where can you hear "Go fuck yourself"
linky pleasy
He's in jail (clink?)!??? What happened?
What I read last nite was that he was handcuffed but I think that was the extent of it after cheney and secret service hunted him down at his house (or what was left of it) down the road after interview.
Marble's in jail because it's probably a crime to yell "go f--k yourself" to someone in public.
But it is acceptable to say it on the floor of the United Sates Senate?
"Yeah.. the Democrats seemed to have no problems with Michael Brown's resume until now."
Ah yes - the democrats didn't tell Bush he was hiring a hack, so it's their fault. You watch - any second now it'll be the Clennis's fault.
No Cheney, go fuck yourself!!
Still, can we survive 3 1/2 more years of these morons?
Oh, I don't know.
Would we rather have the GOP with a busted knee cap, or six feet under?
In 3-1/2 years the GOP could be so radioactive that nobody will want to touch them.
I want to see their goals judged to be so far out of the mainstream that nobody will even touch them for decades.
Marble's in jail because it's probably a crime to yell "go f--k yourself" to someone in public.
Well if he's in jail (which I doubt) then Dick "go fuck yourself" Cheney should be his cellmate.
.
Still, can we survive 3 1/2 more years of these morons?
There is are at least two more disasters coming:
1. 90% probability. Recession.
2. 50% probability. Flu pandemic.
Get ready.
Marble's in jail because it's probably a crime to yell "go f--k yourself" to someone in public.
and yet the Dark Lord, Dick Cheney, continues to walk the earth a free man, or isn't the Senate chambers a public space in your opinion, monkey-boy?
"Impeach the bastards - then try their asses."
Tena
The question I have, that no one has been able to answer is what exactly are,
"high crimes and treason"?
The treason part is clear enough to me in spite of the fuzziness of that.
High crimes however leaves me scratching my head in puzzlement.
I'm sure murder, and rape are high crimes.
However is criminal negligence a high crime, even if lives were lost though a lack of due diligence?
I agree with the thought, "Now is the time to help, not lay blame." However, I have been angrier than hell the citizens of Louisiana had to sit waiting for help that seemed to never come. I have been as guilty as the next person of pointing out how that happened. That being said, I wanted to share something with you I came across yesterday.
Here is a great timeline of the events as they occured complete with irrefutable evidence of the federal govt. dropping the ball. (the evidence is links to The White House, DOD and Office of the Governor websites that show the original memorandums)
http://www.thinkprogress.org/kat...atrina-
timeline
You can see where the Governor requested Federal assistance on August 27, two days before the hurricane made landfall.
Here is an excerpt from the letter to President Bush from Kathleen Blanco. You can read the whole request here:
http://www.gov.state.la.us/Press...tail.asp?
id=976
"I have determined that this incident is of such severity and magnitude that effective response is beyond the capabilities of the State and affected local governments, and that supplementary Federal assistance is necessary to save lives, protect property, public health, and safety, or to lessen or avert the threat of a disaster."
Here is an excerpt of the President's response:
You can read the complete memorandum here:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...20050827-
1.html
"Specifically, FEMA is authorized to identify, mobilize, and provide at its discretion, equipment and resources necessary to alleviate the impacts of the emergency. Debris removal and emergency protective measures, including direct Federal assistance, will be provided at 75 percent Federal funding."
Now here's my question: If the president knew the gravity of the situation and ordered federal assistance, why, when it was known by Tuesday FEMA was not responding the way they had been ordered, did he not mobilize another course of action by the military or Homeland Security? Our military is trained to be extremely efficient in the event of disaster. The U.S.S. Bataan was even waiting off the coast with doctors, a full shelter, food, and water, yet they waited for the president to give the order to assist. Did Fema drop the ball? Yes. Did Homeland Security drop the ball? Yes. Did the president drop the ball? Yes.
Should all of these people be held accountable for the lack of assistance Louisiana received that was requested?
Definitely.
If nothing else the president is guilty of resting on his laurels and inattentiveness. Whatever happened to "The buck stops here?"
If Marble is in jail, Cheney needs to be in jail too. He said the same damn thing.
currently listening to Henry Wood, with additional numbers arr. Bob Chilcott Fantasia on British Sea Songs on the BBC (With their original bugle calls restored)
after that is
Parry, orch. Elgar
Jerusalem (2 mins)
Traditional (arr. Wood)
The National Anthem (2 mins)
Traditional
Auld Lang Syne (2 min)
Marble's in jail because it's probably a crime to yell "go f--k yourself" to someone in public.
The floor of the Senate isn't public?
I don't think Marble is in jail. He was handcuffed, detained, and released, according to his own webpage.
But it is acceptable to say it on the floor of the United Sates Senate?
You can't be arrested for what you say while on the floor of the U.S. Senate
Bush's poll numbers are only down because polls are oversampling Democrats
Gary Ruppert | Homepage | 09.10.05 - 5:18 pm | #
Now you're just being silly!
Too tired and busy to read the previous comments so forgive me if I am redundant. I've been too glued to the blogs of late and am way behind in my life. I have but a minute and need to speak.
Lieberman is an embarrasment. Hasn't he learned his lesson. My thoughts to him;
Please change your party so that your votes will seem kindly in Republican clothes, rather than disingenuous in your current garb.
At least Zell was honest.
You do a disservice to all who seek the truth with your aisle dwelling.
They'd love to have you, and you'd love to be there.
Marble's in jail
when did this happen. I did hear that he had been detained. When did someone send out officers to arrest him?
"But it is acceptable to say it on the floor of the United Sates Senate?"
All together now, on three...
1,
2,
3!
It's ok IF you are a REPUBLICAN!
Marble's in jail because it's probably a crime to yell "go f--k yourself" to someone in public.
A. He didn't yell as audio makes clear and B. he did not do anything that cheney did not do on Senate floor.
.footloose | Email | Homepage | 09.10.05 - 5:19 pm
That is what I read. Either way who wants to bet he gets audited by IRS every other year...forever.
jojo is doing, yet another, insta-grunt-it cut & paste.
that bushwa has been poted at least three times today.
fools can't even come up with something original.
-J.T.
Bush's poll numbers are only down because polls are oversampling Democrats
well, I certainly hope the RNC and the RCCC also retain that delusion. Yes, that's it, they are oversampling Democrats. please keep believing this all through 2006, monkey-boy.
""high crimes and treason"?"
High crimes and misdemeanors. Treason is separate.
Lie-berman is Rove's butt boy.
"look at what the bush crony appointments did to the post invasion iraq."
Exactly, spot on.
The low quality of the trolls makes me think that maybe the smarter rats are already departing the sinking ship.
Shouldn't Bush be in trouble for trying to use the National Guard as a bargaining chip until Blanco reliquished control to the feds?
I mean, come on. People died because they couldn't get any help.
Bastard.
Bush's poll numbers are only down because polls are oversampling Democrats
Just like how voting booths were oversampling Democrats, so the Resmuglicans worked to get rid of the statistical bias.
You can't be arrested for what you say while on the floor of the U.S. Senate
I thought it was in the hallway, not the Senate floor. Handcuffs please.
When did someone send out officers to arrest him?
Him and buddy went down the road to check on house and gather what they could when two armed officers showed up saying witnesses had reported that suspect...His description sounded as if the officers understood the irony re cheney in senate-no problem.
Bush's poll numbers are only down because polls are oversampling Democrats
That's nice Jethro, now go play in the cement pond.
Local laws between DC and Mississippi are probably different too.
I'd still like one more year to prepare for bird flu. Hope I have time.
Peter Uberhoff would be an acceptable Republican for the Recovery Team Head
Liars for Bush | Email | Homepage | 09.10.05 - 5:15 pm | #
Great idea, Liars!
Uberoff managed to run the LA Olympics so well there was actually a profit, and the money went into a youth foundation that is still funding centers and leagues for kids that LA Unified School District and LA County Parks and Recreation couldn't fund.
2. 50% probability. Flu pandemic.
over hyped fear mongering.
-J.T.
For whoever it was who was asking for the Cheney video, its at http://www.crooksandliars.com/ scroll down to near the bottom of the page for it.
Bush feels justified in never taking personal responsibility for anything he does.
"You see, I'm a public official, therefore it is illegal for me to take personal responsibility. Right, Judge Roberts?"
Yeah, speed limits between DC and Mississippi probably vary widely.
"look at what the bush crony appointments did to the post invasion iraq."
Right. They became filthy rich on the blood of our soldiers and Iraqis!
Next...New Orleans.
2. 50% probability. Flu pandemic.
over hyped fear mongering.
And AIDS only affected queers, drug addicts and Haitians.
I wondered who the hell were the 1% who think FEMA acted too quickly in New Orleans. Now I know.
His name's Gary Ruppert.
Jesus, some people will excuse any Bush behavior, no matter how transparently incompetent.
where can you hear "Go fuck yourself"
Might still be over at crooks and liars.
Why are we piling on Dear Leader? He's not running again. Can't we work on connecting the dots between this disaster and the GOP's disasterous ideology?
"...I never considered that their reason for killing those people was because they elected Democrats..."
When to accusations were flying back and forth about who did and didn't, I read that some "fed" made a statement obliquely referring to the problems in Lousiana and New Orleans were because of the "Democrats" running the state and city governments.
I got the impression and still do that because the state is mainly Democrat, Federal help was slow to react. Whereas Mississippi, being Republican, hasn't had any problem with aid and assistance.
So under Bush and the republicans, better make sure your state is in the red zone if you need a federal hand-out.
regards
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Yeah, the history of the Spanish flu is just fear mongering.
The scientists following bird flu are just hyping and fear mongering.
Maul
then please provide some sources to back up your claim of 50%.
i'll wait.
-J.T.
over hyped fear mongering.
-J.T.
JohnTomato | Email | 09.10.05 - 5:26 pm | #
are you being serious?
As I sit here near Charleston, SC, wondering when and where NOAA will announce Ophelia's landfall, it was wonderful to read that after Brown has been pulled off Katrina, he is now supreme commander of storm evacuations and damage control for..yes, Ophelia. God, I feel safer already.
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who pissed in your coffee?
-J.T.
Ah yes - the democrats didn't tell Bush he was hiring a hack, so it's their fault. You watch - any second now it'll be the Clennis's fault.
Uncle Blodge
Clenis is palling around with the Bush's for several reasons.
1) To prevent a civil war
2) To be a "buddy" so they stop trashing him and his wife. She's going to run, you know, at it's harder to attack a friend and his wife as opposed to someone who's been attacking them for 8 years.
3) He needs to be in the loop to know what's going on for future use.
Clinton is cagey.
The Brown pile-on should have been expected, especially since the dimwit professed ignorance of the thousands of people in the Superdome three days after the hurricane struck and five days after TV networks had been showing it.
But the real culprit in all this is Bushboy, even though the press will twist itself into pretzels to avoid saying so.
The lowlife, depraved moron and pretend POTUS left New Orleans out on a dangerous limb for years as he cut the funding for the Army Corp of Engineers to rebuild the levees.
Bushboy needed the money for his other blunder, the Iraq war and his colossal squander, the tax cuts for the rich.
If anyone should be raked over the coals daily it should be Bushboy, the misfit, miscreant, malefactor!
Poor, poor "I can dish it out but I can't take it" Dick.
"Goddamn it! This shit wasn't supposed to happen with white people!"
And I guess he was briefly detained, but released. I assume he has a ticket to appear in court at some point, though.
moi
very serious.
maul claimed it was 50%. i asked politely for backup. we'll see.
-J.T.
JT, I'm just expressing the tone of concern of scientists following the emergence of this.
So under Bush and the republicans, better make sure your state is in the red zone if you need a federal hand-out.
Oh oh. As a Detroiter, I guess I'd have to book it on over to Windsor or hightail it down to Toledo.
Jesus, some people will excuse any Bush behavior, no matter how transparently incompetent.
cosmic grappler
It's the same group that have "insider" knowledge that the WMDs were secreted out of Iraq to Syria.
To stay empowered, most sociopaths have to feel privileged.
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alternative theories attest part of Rome's collapse was because of a smallpox epidemic.
combined with a recession and successive barbarian invasion its no wonder the western roman empire collapse
The exit polls claimed that the split was 37/37/26..
but I would guess that the real split was around 35% Democrat/38% Republican/27% Independent
but, now, it's around 33% Democrat/41% Republican/26% Independent
the shift is due to millions of Democrats leaving the party due to the extremism of Howard Dean
The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.
--U.S. Constitution, Article 2, Section 4
GWPDA, your right of course.
OK. so Bush "could" be removed from office, on the charge of negligence.
I'll leave it to the lawyers for find the specific charges that could be used.
Wow.
The entire Bush Presidency represented in one appointment.
And I'm not being sarcastic when I say that.
Patronage = incompetence. And who is surprised?
"To be a "buddy" so they stop trashing him and his wife."
It might work for now, at the most. If she runs and really stands between the repugs and their hold on power she will be smeared, slammed and swift boated to hell and back in short order.
I think it's a 50/50 chance.
http://opednews.com/articles/
ope..._who_told_o.htm
link to article about Marble. Also has link to ebay site to bid on his video of the Cheney smackdown. Ebay took down the site once but it's back up again.
unless something has transpired since this, Marble is not in jail.
C&L has the news video
I assume he has a ticket to appear in court at some point, though.
NYMary
I don't think he'll be charged with anything. You can bet though he'll never get within 10 miles of the President or Vice President again.
The low quality of the trolls makes me think that maybe the smarter rats are already departing the sinking ship.
==
Which is pretty funny when you consider that redefining 'shitty' is all they do anyway.
Damnit! Sorry about the tags.
The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.
--U.S. Constitution, Article 2, Section 4
GWPDA, your right of course.
OK. so Bush "could" be removed from office, on the charge of negligence.
I'll leave it to the lawyers for find the specific charges that could be used.
doug
The grounds for impeachment are basically what the House and Senate agree upon; one find grounds, the other finds culpability on those grounds.
The courts will never question it, as they will find they have no oversight authority in such a fundamental constitutional question.
At least, I would have said that without qualm until Bush v. Gore.
Avian Flu
On August 3, 2005, the United Nations World Health Organization (WHO) said it was following closely reports from China that at least 38 people have died and more than 200 others have been made ill by a swine-borne disease in Sichuan province. Sichuan Province, where infections with Streptococcus suis have been detected in pigs in a concurrent outbreak, has one of the largest pig populations in China. The outbreak in humans has some unusual features and is being closely followed by the WHO. At that time, Chinese authorities say they have found no evidence of human-to-human transmission [6].
Also in early August, an avian outbreak of influenza A(H5N1) was confirmed in Kazakhstan and Mongolia, suggesting further spread of the virus [7]. Later in August, the virus was found in western Russia, marking its appearance in Europe.
I assume he has a ticket to appear in court at some point, though.
And I would think that will go away once those fools realize the E Bay deal.
"the shift is due to millions of Democrats leaving the party due to the extremism of Howard Dean"
Anyone have any idea whose ass he pulled this out of?
Hillary's not running.
Trust me -- it will never happen.
If anything, my tone is much more sedated than theirs. From those I've heard or read, they sound panicked. I'm more resigned.
And I guess he was briefly detained, but released. I assume he has a ticket to appear in court at some point, though.
NYMary
The article I read quoted him saying there were no charges.
Which means, of course, no grounds for detaining him in the first place. A false arrest suit would be appropriate in such circumstances (a 1st year law student could bring it, and win), but not worth the candle.
If the Katrina aftermath mismanagement doesn't convince the American people that Bushboy not only is incompetent but indifferent to their hopes, dreams and very lives, then the slide America has been on for the last 4 years will only get worse!
After Bushboy has bankrupted us with record deficits, lied to create a senseless war in Iraq that has made our terrorism problem much, much worse and stayed on vacation as Katrina churned in the Gulf of Mexico, if we don't impeach this idiotic prick then we will deserve the ignominious destiny that he is misleading us to!
Ruppert is really good at pulling shit out of his ass. And now for his next trick, he'll find his dick with some tweezers and start jerking off to a picture of Babs Bush...
I posted this at drum:
Cronyism
Michael Brown is now an example of cronyism in Wikipedia:
Many on both sides of the aisle are coming out and denouncing George W. Bush's appointing Michael D. Brown to the director of FEMA. Republican and conservative media commentators as well as liberal ones have called for Brown's dismissal or resignation. Michelle Malkin stated about Brown: "if someone is a worthless sack of bones, I'll say so. And I don't care if he has 'Bush appointee' stamped on his forehead or a GOP elephant tattooed to his backside. Brown's clueless public comments after landfall are reason enough to give him the boot...and he should have never been there in the first place." Time Magazine has revealed that Brown lied on his resume, and probably only got the important position because of the person he roomed with at college.
LOL He's officially a crony!!!
I'm no fan of Dick "Dick" Cheney, but I ahve to give him credit. He thought Marble's taunt was funny. You can see him laughing on the tape.
Then he had Marble handcuffed and questioned.
In humans, it has been found that avian flu causes similar symptoms to other types of flu [13]:
* fever
* cough
* sore throat
* muscle aches
* conjunctivitis
* in severe cases of avian flu, it can cause severe breathing problems and pneumonia, and can be fatal.
millions of Democrats leaving the party due to the extremism of Howard Dean
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Oh the Bill Maher: George Must Go video on C&L is funny as shit.
ok well here's the deal. even if it has a 0.01% chance of happening we have to be ready. because it has a mortality rate of over 80%. it has already jumped into infecting humans. all that is left is that it becomes virulent. and rest assured each and every day it is mutating and when those three little lemons on the slot machine all line up that will be a very bad day for humans on earth.
Marble's video appears to have been pulled AGAIN by ebay.
Moral fucking cowards.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/
ebayisapi...item=7712202734
extremism of Howard Dean
Examples of extreme pov's?
Uncle Blodge
asking trools to give backup to their wild hares is like waiting for limbaugh to grow some ethics. aint going to happen.
-J.T>
The low quality of the trolls makes me think that maybe the smarter rats are already departing the sinking ship.
The Old Man From Scene 24
DING DING DING
We got a winnah, folks.
But I must say I really enjoy reading some of the responses. Quite earthy, doncha know.
Oh the Bill Maher: George Must Go video on C&L is funny as shit.
Ooh thanx for that-I need a laff.
Howard Dean's extremism, where he has blamed Bush for the hurricane, said he hated Republicans, blamed Bush for Kelo, is too much for Americans with IQs above 100
Opposing Kelo will be the backbone of Republican victory in 2006. Democrats want to take land to help out their welfare state programs
Oh, I reckon that there could be quite a good case made for Shrub's crime of bribery, based on what is now emerging about those SBA loans....
I really do need to remind people that the Shrubbery has -always- looted the SBA whenever they felt the need. The reasons are very simple. It is the smallest -independent- agency in the government. It is entirely dominated by political appointees utterly loyal to Shrub. It holds 'the warrant' - that is it is one of the very few agencies with the power to write real money checks. And it is, superficially, utterly ignorable.
It's nice that Senators Kerry and Snowe are taking a look.
"the shift is due to millions of Democrats leaving the party due to the extremism of Howard Dean"
Anyone have any idea whose ass he pulled this out of?
Uncle Blodge
Uh, Rush Limbaugh, Brit Hume, Bill O'Reilly, ZZZZZZ, zzzzzz, ......
.
Moonbootica
does that make it a pandemic?
-J.T.
I think Marble should post the video for free on his website and simply include a Paypal click for people who want to donate to him. Bet he'd get more than he would selling it on ebay.
I'm no fan of Dick "Dick" Cheney, but I ahve to give him credit. He thought Marble's taunt was funny. You can see him laughing on the tape.
Then he had Marble handcuffed and questioned.
You sure those are unrelated?
"Uncle Blodge
asking trools to give backup to their wild hares is like waiting for limbaugh to grow some ethics. aint going to happen."
Rhetorical question and all that.
Still, I was wondering if that claim was making the rounds of wingnuttia.
In other words, did he get that idea from Assrocket or just make it up himeself?
In a sane world...
Brown would be fired, then put on trial for criminal negligence causing death.
Joe Leiberman would resign.
It goes without saying the whole Bush administration would be carried out of Washington in irons.
i love trying to figure out html coding.
just sayin.
i love trying to figure out html coding.
just sayin.
God hates tags!
hydrokitty,
http://www.bloodshotlens.com/
sim...simplehtml.html
-J.T.
Okay, I know I have been pimping that NYT article all afternoon, but I have to show you another NYT article,. This one, however, has to be one of the stupidest ever. It comes to you direct from the NYT's odious Styles section, which is staffed by bored debutantes and debutante-wanna-bes.
Moad Dib - Without firm control from the Federal Government the military is drifting on a parallel course to the ship of state.
I'm not shocked about this at all. Hell, everyone knows Rummy is ruining the military. I fully expected this to be the case.
Marble's video appears to have been pulled AGAIN by ebay.
Remember a year or so ago Cheney explicitly mentioned and lauded eBay as an example of the "new economy" or some crap like that.
JohnTomato hmmm
from the wiki article
In August 2005, the World Health Organization issued the following statements (PDF)
Situation assessment
1. The risk of a pandemic is great.
Since late 2003, the world has moved closer to a pandemic than at any time since 1968, when the last of the previous century’s three pandemics occurred. All prerequisites for the start of a pandemic have now been met save one: the establishment of efficient human-to-human transmission. During 2005, ominous changes have been observed in the epidemiology of the disease in animals. Human cases are continuing to occur, and the virus has expanded its geographical range to include new countries, thus increasing the size of the population at risk. Each new human case gives the virus an opportunity to evolve towards a fully transmissible pandemic strain.
2. The risk will persist.
Evidence shows that the H5N1 virus is now endemic in parts of Asia, having established an ecological niche in poultry. The risk of further human cases will persist, as will opportunities for a pandemic virus to emerge. Outbreaks have recurred despite aggressive control measures, including the culling of more than 140 million poultry. Wild migratory birds – historically the host reservoir of all influenza A viruses – are now dying in large numbers from highly pathogenic H5N1. Domestic ducks can excrete large quantities of highly pathogenic virus without showing signs of illness. Their silent role in maintaining transmission further complicates control in poultry and makes human avoidance of risky behaviours more difficult.
"God hates tags!"
now that's funny.
-J.T.
"Shouldn't Bush be in trouble for trying to use the National Guard as a bargaining chip until Blanco reliquished control to the feds?"
I'm no history or legal scholar, but I do faintly remember the initial Constitutional Convention was concerned over a large Federal government over-reaching into State jurisdictions.
The 10th amendment says ..."The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people."
So it seems to me the Governor was well within her Constitutional rights.
That Bush was using the goodwill of the Federal government to usurp State power is an oh shit moment.
regards
.
Marble's video appears to have been pulled AGAIN by ebay.
you don't think Cheney would let anyone make money off HIM, do you?
He's the only one who can profit.
Eli,
Thank you for pointing that out. It makes so much more sense now.
i love trying to figure out html coding.
just sayin.
watertiger
Hey, it's fun! Had a job interview with a couple of infants recently who asked me to say what 'authoring tool' I used to produce web pages. When I told 'em either Notepad or Arachnophilia they looked confused. Seems they'd never met anybody who'd been using HTML since it was HTML Zero....
3. Evolution of the threat cannot be predicted.
Given the constantly changing nature of influenza viruses, the timing and severity of the next pandemic cannot be predicted. The final step – improved transmissibility among humans – can take place via two principal mechanisms: a reassortment event, in which genetic material is exchanged between human and avian viruses during co-infection of a human or pig, and a more gradual process of adaptive mutation, whereby the capability of these viruses to bind to human cells would increase during subsequent infections of humans. Reassortment could result in a fully transmissible pandemic virus, announced by a sudden surge of cases with explosive spread. Adaptive mutation, expressed initially as small clusters of human cases with evidence of limited transmission, will probably give the world some time to take defensive action. Again, whether such a “grace period” will be granted is unknown.
Spent the day with a dear frined who's very conservative politically and, because she's a witch, very defensive about it. i'd hoped maybe some scale had fallen from her eyes, but, nope. Heard about how she was "disappointed in all politicians" because "in the middle of an emergency is not thet time to criticize" and how it's sad that no one cameforward such as Guiliani did after 9/11 to "inspire" people. We traded some angry words and then went on to talk about "safe" topics the rest of the day. Sad.
4. The early warning system is weak.
As the evolution of the threat cannot be predicted, a sensitive early warning system is needed to detect the first sign of changes in the behaviour of the virus. In risk-prone countries, disease information systems and health, veterinary, and laboratory capacities are weak. Most affected countries cannot adequately compensate farmers for culled poultry, thus discouraging the reporting of outbreaks in the rural areas where the vast majority of human cases have occurred. Veterinary extension services frequently fail to reach these areas. Rural poverty perpetuates high-risk behaviours, including the traditional home-slaughter and consumption of diseased birds. Detection of human cases is impeded by patchy surveillance in these areas. Diagnosis of human cases is impeded by weak laboratory support and the complexity and high costs of testing.
J.T.,
Thanks. I have a handle on the easy ones; it's trying to place new coding within a template's coding I was wrassling with.
I just keep seeing poor little rich kids breaking all their toys. They'd like to kill us all.
Hillary's not running.
Trust me -- it will never happen.
steve simels
I listened to a fund raising speech she gave several months ago. Steve, my friend, she is running. No doubt.
AND I'm trying to do this while Bruce Campbell is screaming in the background ("Army of Darkness").
But I have a sinking feeling we're going to wake up one morning and on the news, cases of it will begin appearing on the west coast. I don't expect FEMA to half-ass handle it like I once did before Kartrina. I don't expect the problems at FEMA to be remedied. It's the only entity that can deal with it and they will not be able as long as this administration is in there. And that goes out to you media whores. You and your offspring will die like the people of New Orleans: on the floor of your homes or on the streets being eaten by dogs and rats. Bush and Cheney will be fine.
That's my prediction.
cont.
Few affected countries have the staff and resources needed to thoroughly investigate human cases and, most importantly, to detect and investigate clusters of cases – an essential warning signal. In virtually all affected countries, antiviral drugs are in very short supply. The dilemma of preparing for a potentially catastrophic but unpredictable event is great for all countries, but most especially so for countries affected by H5N1 outbreaks in animals and humans. These countries, in which rural subsistence farming is a backbone of economic life, have experienced direct and enormous agricultural losses, presently estimated at more than US$ 10 billion.
Bet he'd get more than he would selling it on ebay.
JeffCO |
Plus the freepers can screw with the guy on eBay submitting phony bids and the winner defaulting. He's better off with numerous smaller and legitimite donations.
In a sane world...
Brown would be fired, then put on trial for criminal negligence causing death.
Joe Leiberman would resign.
It goes without saying the whole Bush administration would be carried out of Washington in irons.
Richard,
Sad but true...in a sane world, but for Buscho lying and corruption are ACCEPTED political strategies - even admired by some members of the MSM. IOKIYAR or a DINO.
Sickening.
"All prerequisites for the start of a pandemic have now been met save one: the establishment of efficient human-to-human transmission."
ok. then there's this from the c.d.c.
"The risk from bird flu is generally low to most people because the viruses occur mainly among birds and do not usually infect humans."
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/avian/gen...-info/
facts.htm
-J.T.
Ruppert - Yeah, Dean is extreme. And it will drive people away. Uh huh.
Funny, y'all don't find it extreme that Cheney said Democrats should be hunted down and exterminated. And I bet you'd argue it didn't turn people off, either, wouldn't you?
Go away, please. Go back in your corner and eat your boogers. You are extremely boring and stupid.
Howard Dean's extremism...is too
much for Americans with IQs above
100
I'm too tired to even make the
obvious joke....
Pile on? Pile on? These little titty babies haven't SEEN piling on. I happen to remember what happened when Clinton got a blow job. Now, that, my friends, was piling on. Until we get past that stage, please don't talk to me about not piling on, mkay? Cuz I intend to pile the hell on everyone who deserves it.
dems now have a very good excuse to try to postpone Roberts' hearings for the SCOTUS while examining all those documents, citing Brown as an example
Look, no administration has been perfect for all citizens.
But I can't find an administration in US history who seems to revel in its own incompetence and enthusiastically reward such dereliction of duty.
I had a similar experience with a friend yesterday, Hecate. On every mention of the federal response to Katrina, he just mentioned the photo of New Orleans school buses. It's all the mayor's fault, and everything else was just part of the ride, I guess. Legal causation wrapped around a mobius strip or something.
One parking lot of buses = a Bush-exonerating override switch, I guess. Angry words at the end, too.
"the timing and severity of the next pandemic cannot be predicted."
thanks. you made my point for me.
-J.T.
I picked up a flu bug in Chicago last week. Before I was just annoyed, now I'm worried.
I can't die now; I have a book to finish.
Maher:
"Herbert Hoover was a shitty president, but even he never conceded an entire metropolish to rising water and poisonous snakes."
Hecate,
And if you tried to bring up issues that have gotten past the initial urgency, such as the WMD justification for the Iraqi war, then she'd quickly say;
That's old news. Let's get on with the business, of whatever.
There's never a good time to criticize GWB, according to them.
Seriously, is there any mechanism for generating a recall election for POTUS? Impeachment's not possible with the current congressnozzles. Short of, y'know, revolution, could it theoretically be done?
I listened to a fund raising speech she gave several months ago. Steve, my friend, she is running. No doubt.
ql in ny
Well if she does run the Repugs will turn the election into the most vicious divisive election in modern history. Put your helmets on kids if it's her.
.
-J.T. causing uncessary panic doesn't help anyone.
The only other entity that can "deal" with it is the US military and their only instrument is brute force. They will not be able to "evacuate" anyone for fear of catching it themselves. Their only option is shooting those trying to flee quarantined cities. Katrina is actually a much easier disaster to handle than this.
What other scenerio is there?
Hillary running would effectively punch some "inoffensive" Republican's ticket.
Aw fuck it, let's have a Hillary-Santorum showdown, just to see all my worst fears about America confirmed...
picked up a flu bug in Chicago last week. Before I was just annoyed, now I'm worried.
Bummer.
(I hate this discussion, having watched all six hours of The Stand yesterday.)
Moonbootica
agreed. that is what mad king george's administration runs on; fear.
fear the terrorists.
fear the liberals.
fear not getting a tax cut.
fear gays.
fear all non-christians.
fear some christians.
fear being poor.
-J.T.
Let's not leave Congress off the hook. In the past five years the Senate and the House, both parties, have completely abdicated their oversight responsiblities with respect to the Bush Administration, both in his appointments and in the conduct of the executive branch. (I'm looking at you, Joe Lieberman.)
Erm, the reason our Constitution gave oversight responsiblities to the Congress, I think, is because our founding poppas foresaw the possibility of a sociopath being installed as the Chief Executive and how bad that would be for America.
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Americans with IQs above
100
Can easily figure out how much rope to give ya.
Ruppert your desperation is clearly showing.
Quit while you're behind.
Avian flu?
Folks, the risk of a pandemic is always there. The next one may or may not be avian flu.
This risk has increased due to travel and commerce.
What's in our favor is the improved medical tech.
What worries me is the drop in funding for things like the CDC. It seems that the NIH is still getting funding. The local facility has in a building frenzy since the Anthrax scares.
Like some others,I've had words with conservative friends. Angry, harsh words. I don't like it much.
Used to be, I'd swallow and direct the conversation somewhere safe. No more. Friends or not, I'm done being quiet. I may lose a friend or two, but I'm done being polite about the Bush Bullshit. I can't stand it anymore.
And I doubt I am the only one.
my dad sez that its a sign that a country is degenerate when they don't collect their dead.
he was really appalled at the images of bodies just floating there.
Erm, the reason our Constitution gave oversight responsiblities to the Congress, I think, is because our founding poppas foresaw the possibility of a sociopath being installed as the Chief Executive and how bad that would be for America.
Oh hell, the founding fathers were frightfully afraid of each other.
Jay C.
Santorum isn't even going to get re-elected Senator.
Let me see if I've got this straight; giving out jobs based on ethnicity bad. Giving out jobs based on political affiliation good.
I'd like to see someone from an ethinic minority who's qualified in emergency management sue the crap out of the Bush administration.
Welcome back to the food-chain, folks.
i mean even during the Black Death they collected their dead.
i mean something must be seriously wrong at the moment in American.
Uncle Blodge:
You don't need "friends" like that.
I've stopped speaking to anyone who says they support or voted for Cowboy Caligula.
It's all I can do is be civil to them!
There's never a good time to criticize GWB, according to them.
LOL
Anyone see that guy on CNN? Mad at Bush and calling himself an idiot for voting for him.
Moonbootica - tell your dad that many of us are appalled as well. Unfortunately, far too many are only recently waking up from their happy dreams.
Santorum isn't even going to get re-elected Senator.
Terry c
Making the ideal choice... Frist!
and during the Black Death all they had were carts and limepits.
Santorum isn't even going to get re-elected Senator.
Terry C
Didn't Santorum say people who ignored the evacuation orders should be fined? I wonder if that included those who died.
The guy just may go overboard even playing to his Fundie/NRA base.
Oh hell, the founding fathers were frightfully afraid of each other.
But almost to a man, they all died peacefully in their beds. That's pretty remarkable for a bunch of rebels and revolutionaries.
"It's all I can do is be civil to them!"
I know the feeling.
"Feminazi Moonbat"
I like the sound of that.
Ô¿Ô, all it's going to take is for one little infected sparrow to roost on your beautiful clothesline for a split-second, and you're a goner.
It won't even have to shit on the sheets.*
*I don't want it to happen, and I hope it doesn't happen. I'm just trying to get into the spirit of the thing.
And I doubt I am the only one.
Uncle Blodge
Well, I for one have given up on a couple of long-time friends... I figure if they really embrace the Consevative Christian Hate Party horseshit, they're not really the kind of people I'd want watching my back anyway.
Meh.
-
LOL
Anyone see that guy on CNN? Mad at Bush and calling himself an idiot for voting for him
Fraud, as in con games, is the least reported crime. It's the shame and embarassment.
Used to be, I'd swallow and direct the conversation somewhere safe. No more. Friends or not, I'm done being quiet. I may lose a friend or two, but I'm done being polite about the Bush Bullshit. I can't stand it anymore.
My theory is that I won't bring up politics generally when with a friend who I know (a) is conservative and (b) gets defensive and angry. But if they bring it up, which is what happened with my friend today. I am going to state my opinion. I won't back down just to "make nice."
Mad at Bush and calling himself an idiot for voting for him.
I've had two people call me this week to say, "You were right". Out of the blue. Or murky waters.
I read someplace Britian is securing areas for mass graves.
I would love to see an expert in cults examine the cult of GWB, though. It's as if the more dear leader is attacked, the more they adore him.
Well, I for one have given up on a couple of long-time friends... I figure if they really embrace the Consevative Christian Hate Party horseshit, they're not really the kind of people I'd want watching my back anyway.
I did it with my entire family. Sad, but true. I'm that committed.
Moonbootica
I saw a BBC broadcast about the bodies all over NOLA. Their scathing contempt for this was dripping from their lips during this segment.
As a practical matter, you'd think they'd want to remove the bodies at the first possible moment.
The question of disease, and that many of the bodies are floating in warm water, just makes the job nastier if they wait.
Gary the Dunce: Howard Dean's extremism, where he has blamed Bush for the hurricane, said he hated Republicans, blamed Bush for Kelo, is too much for Americans with IQs above 100
IQs above 100?
That leaves YOU out, RUBE-pert!
He blamed preznit fuckwad for the hurricane?
PROOF, please.......moron!
On the plus side, we went to a fantastic occult store in Occoquan, VA and I got great incense and -- best of all -- replinished my store of deadly nightshade. So all in all it was a good day.
Just visited Newsweek site re the 38% approval poll and scanned the list of its "Live Vote Archive" and had a chuckle. On one hand you have legitimate questions that impact a nation and its people such as:
Do you approve of President Bush's handling of Katrina's aftermath?
Should John Roberts be confirmed by the Senate for the Supreme Court?
Should Karl Rove keep his job?
Should the detention center at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, be shut down?
interspersed with trivial queries of:
What type of water do you usually drink?
Would you pay extra for a less-allergenic pet?
Would you consider laser hair removal?
Is it important to have emotional intelligence?
Would you get eye surgery to correct your vision?
Thus, I am still amazed by all those who use such media (along with Faux, UnTimely and such) as their as their first or only source of actual news.
I listened to a fund raising speech she gave several months ago. Steve, my
friend, she is running. No doubt.
ql in ny | Email | Homepage | 09.10.05 - 5:45 pm | #
I'll take your word for it, kiddo,
but I just can't see how.
I used to "play nice" by always adding the qualifier "on both sides" when making a point to a conservative friend. That way, whever anyone screwed up it was ok to criticize, as long as you threw in Joe Biden for good measure. Y'know, those crazy politicians don't understand us "regular" folk who just vote them in.
But now, fuck that. Blame the guy with the steering wheel.
Brown sent candid e-mail to family
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
DENVER -- Federal Emergency Management Agency Director Michael Brown sent a candid e-mail to family and friends this week as he was becoming the center of criticism of the handling of the Hurricane Katrina disaster.
"I don't mind the negative press (well, actually, I do, but I try to ignore it) but it is really wearing out the family," Brown wrote. "No wonder people don't go into public service. This country is devouring itself, the 24-hour news cycle is numbing our ability to think for ourselves," the Rocky Mountain News reported Saturday.
Brown was relieved of his command of the onsite relief efforts Friday amid increasing criticism over the sluggishness of the agency's response and questions over his background.
"It's horrible," said Mary Ann Karns, an Oklahoma lawyer who once worked with Brown in the Edmond, Okla., city government and got the e-mail addressed. "He does not deserve this as a human being."
I couldn't agree more. For accepting a key homeland security post while knowing he was woefully unqualified, and thereby killing thousands through his inaction, he deserves to spend the rest of his life in a prison cell.
Nah, I have my cat to keep the sparrows run off.
The guy just may go overboard even playing to his Fundie/NRA base.
Agent Orange
Mike Malloy made a good point last night. It's the repukes who are taking guns away from the people in NO. So far, the NRA has not reacted.
And I'm off for some nice red wine and Italian food. Spaghetti in clam sauce sounds nice tonight. And garlic bread.
"The risk from bird flu is generally low to most people because the viruses occur mainly among birds and do not usually infect humans."
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/avian/gen...an/gen...-info/
facts.htm
-J.T.
JohnTomato | Email | 09.10.05 - 5:45 pm | #
but once it gets rolling in humans it WILL be a human flu. and it has transmitted human-human. all it needs is a nudge. i've been watching the bird flu story since last fall when a doctor/biotech stock advisor said he was stock piling tamiflu. a russian virologist predicted a billion(with a b) deaths. i've never heard that high a prediction again tho. bird flu was in pa in the early 90's. i had field studies near lancaster pa. where they killed whole chicken houses at the first hint and quarantened farms. otherwise they would have been wiped out. the flies were unbelievable because they buried them on the farm. it was really gross working near those farms.
It seems that the NIH is still getting funding.
Yeah, but you can't believe the stuff their funding. Another good frined of mine, an MD, left NIH a few years ago when the fundies were put in charge of deciding what studies did and did not get funded. It's now totally infiltrated with fundie xians on a mission.
It's as if the more dear leader is attacked, the more they adore him.
Hecate
I don't think it's all attraction. One of the main purposes of the Right Wing Noise machine is to characterize liberals and Democrats as treasonous and unpatriotic. This makes aligning with them too repulsive to consider. Once they buy into that emotional attack they can do nothing but stick with Bush no matter what. What else can they do, join hands with flag burning troop hating liberals. The repulsive effect works...it's important to retaining his base support!
"Feminazi Moonbat"
I like the sound of that.
Uncle Blodge
It's two things the fucktards hate -- so that makes it two things I wanna be.
As an example of how dumb the trolls are, some little bitch (sara w) accused me of being a lesbian because the of "feminazi" and said my kids must be ashamed of me because I call myself a "moonbat."
(My kids are in their early 20s; they hate Bush)
My answer was: "She doesn't get it. Trolls are thicker than shit!"
She left the thread after that.
"The hurricane wasn't a big deal" - Gary Ruppert.
That's a paraphrase, but it's pretty damn close to what he was saying Monday morning, almost exactly as levees were breaking.
just caught a cnn segment on shrimpboaters that had a scene of one guy paddling in a canoe next to a cnn crew in a boat. his comments were 'oooohhhh, if i see that' (then he kind of mumbled something, and turned to the camera crew and said) 'and i voted for the son of a bitch'.
Go fuck yourself, Mr Cheney!
Go fuck yourself!
Once again:
The LTK President.
Lie, torture, kill.
-
in the highly unlikely event you all haven't seen this .....WOW...or was that " huh..." Or " I told you so ?" or ,well here:
'The Guardian has learned that Jack Straw, the foreign secretary, has made a personal plea to his American counterpart, Condoleezza Rice, for the US to withdraw opposition to plans for wholesale reform of the UN. He has asked Ms Rice to rein in John Bolton, the US ambassador to the world body.'
And my homepage goes to the article . It's a doosey.
Anyone got anything else for Bush to fuck up ?
Santorum isn't even going to get re-elected Senator.
Terry C
Didn't Santorum say people who ignored the evacuation orders should be fined? I wonder if that included those who died.
The guy just may go overboard even playing to his Fundie/NRA base.
Agent Orange
He's toast.
Every statement coming out of his mouth is even dumber than the one preceding it.
Well if she does run the Repugs will turn the election into the most vicious
divisive election in modern history. Put your helmets on kids if it's her.
.
Agent Orange | Email | 09.10.05 - 5:48 pm | #
Which is precisely why I don't
think she's running.
She doesn't want to go through the
shit she went through during Bill's
presidency again.
Plus, I think she would lose and I
also think she knows it.
As far as I'm concerned, the only
people seriously promoting the
possibility of her candidacy are
Republican fundraisers. She's
replaced Ted Kennedy as the great
liberal bogeyman they use to get
the rubes to pony up.
Poor old Brownie...Comments from the left will pale during the investigations when the Bush protectors will do a heck of a job on Joe Allbaugh's old circlejerk buddy.
So far, the NRA has not reacted.
ql in ny
I think the NRA can stay quiet because the guns being taken are from people who do not have legal posession of those guns (mostly blacks). Remember the old "if guns are outlawed blah blah blah stuff"
So the NRA will stay comfortably quiet on this one. I don't think you'll hear a peep from them.
It seems that the NIH is still getting funding.
Sure, if you like researching biological weapons or adopting snowflake embryos.
If you want to do much of anything else, you're pretty much SOL.
Once again:
The LTK President.
Lie, torture, kill.
-
MisterX
The Genocide Preznit.
Here AND abroad.
mmmm nightshade berries
http://static.flickr.com/21/
3112...624615643_o.jpg
Newsweek: Katrina’s “Ultimate Casualty Could Be President George W. Bush”
September 10th, 2005
It seems as though the free passes for Bush from the media may be finally over. Newsweek reports:
Hurricane Katrina claimed her first political casualty Friday. Michael Brown, the head of FEMA, the federal disaster readiness and response agency, was sidelined from the largest disaster relief project in the nation’s history. Brown was recalled to Washington by his boss, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff. But a new NEWSWEEK Poll suggests the post-Katrina political storm may just be rising. And her ultimate casualty could be President George W. Bush.
The polls continue to plummet for Bush.
http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.c...aily.com/?
p=494
"The hurricane wasn't a big deal" - Gary Ruppert.
Speaking of someone thicker than shit!
Hi all. I'm back.
Seems like everytime I go away, Holden gets another pony.
Has he given one to NTodd yet -- so he'll stop whining?
See, there is no governmental agency that will be able to step in to help. When it begins it will be like when the levee broke. After that, it's everybody for themselves for the foreseeable future. This will have a far greater impact than Katrina.
GO FUCK YOURSELF, Chairman Dean!
GO FUCK YOURSELF, Chairman Dean!
GO FUCK YOURSELF, Chairman Dean!
GO FUCK YOURSELF, Chairman Dean!
Sure, if you like researching biological weapons or adopting snowflake embryos.
If you want to do much of anything else, you're pretty much SOL.
Sallyh
There was a public hearing about what kind of stuff they are working on at the local facility. They have just put in the highest classification lab.
One interesting answer was when the RML/NIH guy was asked what they did with radioactive waste. His answer?
"Why, we incinerate it."
Does sound like fundy stupidity.
Glad I'm not normally downwind of them.
We're now set up for the perfect storm of catastrophe.
Ma Barker Bush
gb
Eat one of my tasty berries. They're free!
Why is it that so many Social Darwinists support teaching Intelligent Design ?
gb | 09.10.05 - 6:13 pm | #
That's nice, dear.
Now run along - grownups are talking here.
She's
replaced Ted Kennedy as the great
liberal bogeyman they use to get
the rubes to pony up.
steve simels
I think she HAS been effectively neutralized by the Right. A moderate Republican friend, a lawyer despises her at a level that's bizarre. "She almost ruined the country" type BS is what the Repugs have tied around her neck.
As I said if it's her it will be vicious and maybe even m*rderous. A lot of people hate her passionately.
Doug,
Don't they just look deadly??
guns being taken are from people who do not have legal posession of those guns
I read though that it was also people with permits. I had asked the other night if NRA had said squat.
Hecate, no they looked tasty. Same for the false morel, I recently had for my Grav.
Those who are being paid fucking high slaries to prepare aren't doing anything but gambling it wont happen with their heads firmly in the sand.
(My kids are in their early 20s; they hate Bush)
As do mine who are 14, 12 and 9.
My 9 year old was trying to describe a bad dream and he said, "the pig wasn't exactly EVIL... (pause) just kind of like George Bush"
high salaries, too
Doug--at the NIH we have section heads overseeing research proposals in areas where they have no knowledge of the field whatsoever.
When my grant was not renewed, I would have expected 20+ pages of comments as to why it was not (what was wrong with the experiments, why my methods weren't compliant with standards and practices, etc.). I got 1 page of vague dismissal.
I think guckert has the worst case of piles in recorded history
I agree, Agent Orange.
All the intelligent professionals (lawyers, accountants, etc.) that I got to know the past few years -button down Republicans, not fundies- couldn't WAIT to vote against Hillary.
I think Dean is more of a punchline than a bogeyman, but he won't happen either.
A lot of people
hate her passionately.
Agent Orange | Email | 09.10.05 - 6:15 pm | #
I can't believe she would run
knowing (as she does) that she's one
of the most polarizing
figures in the country....
On the other hand, as Chuck Barris
used to say, what do I know? I like
cold toilet seats.......
You have to wonder if there is a dark design to all this.
I think we should pile all these folks. Strip 'em nekkid, then stack 'em in pyramids.
And who the fuck is gb?
I am a peniless student!
John tomato--interspecies transmission is rare, but what is unusual in H5N1 is that the birds themselves have become ill and died. Normally, the birds themselves don't manifest the disease.
My 9 year old was trying to describe a bad dream and he said, "the pig wasn't exactly EVIL... (pause) just kind of like George Bush"
Uncle Blodge
Now we're talking family values! Keep up the good work.
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Mike--can we burn them, too?
Go fuck yourself, Mr Cheney!
Go fuck yourself!
The Old Man From Scene 24
Hahahahahahaha. That video was so great. When I showed it to my daughter she was certain it was a prank. When I assured her it wasn't, she played it a few more times for the belly laughs.
"...It's now totally infiltrated with fundie xians on a mission."
--Hecate
I think this is what scares me the most. All rational people are leaving government jobs.
Damn, makes me wonder if we will ever recover.
You have to wonder if there is a dark design to all this.
Ô¿Ô | 09.10.05 - 6:18 pm | #
You mean like a race war between blacks and rethugs?
Seriously folks, chop off a finger or toe, snailmail it to a friend near NOLA and have him/her dump it in the water. Ya never know when having yourself declared dead will come in handy. If you had done that on 9/11 you'd be rich now.
Let's not leave Congress off the hook. In the past five years the Senate and the House, both parties, have completely abdicated their oversight responsiblities with respect to the Bush Administration, both in his appointments and in the conduct of the executive branch. (I'm looking at you, Joe Lieberman.)
Yes, Joe Lieberman has to go. He said, in a letter to the editor of the NYT (I think) last fall, that he has a "responsibility to work cooperatively with the President". Wrong!! His responsibility is to hold Bush accountable. His #1 responsibility is to the American people who elected him to represent THEM, and look after their interests - not his!!
He needs to be held accountable for his part in this fiasco, too, imo.
They must hang like grapes, but I have to think that Scotty gets off on licking them
Flory--NTodd would whine and say that it's not fair because Holden still has more ponies.
there's supposed to be an interview with the infamous Gretna sherrif coming up on msnbc. the two paramedics who were trapped in NO by Gretna cops were just interviewed.
I would love to see an expert in cults examine the cult of GWB, though.
Man, so would I.
I'd like to know the psychology and how to prevent this happening again.
What is happening with regard to Bush's dwindling support... more folks are coming to the realization that Bushco is FUBAR. They won't be turning back anytime soon. In fact, as with most addicts, the newly reformed will be the most ardent Bush critics. Notice how NOBODY is being converted into a Bush supporter. Soon we will be down the to final 30% or so who are so hard core delusional they will never be redeemed.
Fortunately, we can make them all wear a scarlet W. Makes great target practice.
The World Health Organization (WHO) warns that there is a substantial risk of an influenza pandemic within the next few years. One of the strongest candidates is the A(H5N1) subtype of Influenza virus. See "Assessing the pandemic threat" at [15]. WHO published a first edition of the Global Influenza Preparedness Plan in 1999, and updated it in April 2005. See [16] and [17] which define the responsibilities of WHO and national authorities in case of an influenza pandemic. This is the first time a pandemic has been anticipated and is being prepared for.
The aims of such plans are, broadly speaking, the following:
* Before a pandemic, attempt to prevent it and prepare for it in case prevention fails.
* If a pandemic does occur, to slow its spread and allow societies to function as normally as possible.
as Chuck Barris
used to say, what do I know? I like
cold toilet seats.......
steve simels
Didn't realize that the "unknown comic" was on the thread.
. 
Gee, I can't think of a federal agency, or a branch of the service for that matter, which hasn't been the subject of numerous articles detailing the influx of crappy Bush political appointees, cronies, fundies, crooks, nuts and nits.
They have had five years to work on the FBI, EPA, Department of Education, Commerce, State Department, IRS, the military branches, NSC, and the whole rest of the alphabet. At the top, unqualified cronies, who've spent the years staffing the agency with syncophants and nuts. What would be good search terms to bring them up? I bet there would be a pile!
So which Federal agency can we expect to work anymore?
Chairman Dean!
gb
That's nice, dear.
-
Mike--can we burn them, too?
Sallyh | Email | Homepage | 09.10.05 - 6:21 pm | #
You know, I got real scared when they figured how to make fuel out of turkey guts. To steal from Bruce Sterling, anything we can do to turkeys we can do to people. And we can do most anything to turkeys.
The thing about nightshade berries is, they look so pretty, so tempting... Come here, My Pretty, and take a bite of the lovely apple...
Yes if it is Chairman Dean and candidate Clinton in 2008, it will be a worse defeat then Reagan vs. Mondale. And it looks like it is almost 100% percent that she will win the nomination. Look how Bill is sucking up to the Bush family. Totally sickening.
Phew, storms blowing in. We had a gentle rain storm in the valley floor last night. I woke up to see the first snow of the year on the Mountain tops. What's blowing in now looks like it might not be gentle at all.
Doesn't worry me at all, this piece of land hasn't been flooded since Lake Missoula, and my house is well protected from all kinds of weather.
Anybody watching MSNBC? I was gonna nap with it on.
Dan Abrams interviewed a couple who were with the group driven away from Gretna after being told to cross the bridge and go there. They set up camp further back on the bridge. They said that the sheriff of Gretna showed up later and at gunpoint relieved them of their supplies, put those supplies in his car trunk, and drove the people off the freeway.
Abrams was aghast and, dig this, is scheduled to be interviewing the sheriff of Gretna in, he said, about 45 minutes. Close to 7pm Eastern. Wonder if the guy's still gonna show up. (So much for my nap.)
The interviewed couple was white. They said they were with a group of several hundred soaked-to-the-bone, weary African Americans who had been ordered there. The idea was that they would not be allowed into Gretna on foot -- car traffic was allowed to pass.
Totally sickening.
gb
That's nice, dear.
-
GO FUCK YOURSELF, Chairman Dean!
He caused Katrina? The Deanis is more powerful than the Clenis!!! YEARRRRGH!!!
Skank bitch Laura Bush needs to get off whatever drug she's on and help pick up the bodies.
Disgusting? I got your disgusting right here, whore.
"the shift is due to millions of Democrats leaving the party due to the extremism of Howard Dean --
Gary Ruppert"
There is no one more extreme than the present Administration and the only exits I see are all those poor foolish souls in the Gulf Coast Region who did not vote against this group of thugs or who hesitated and then finally decided to waste their vote because they thought the country needed to show the rest of the world how strong we are. Reality does however, have a powerful bite. I would truly be interested in the numbers of those who in retrospect would cast their vote the same way.
Look how Bill is sucking up to the Bush family.
Uh, you got that backwards, Jethro.
The polls continue to plummet for Bush.
The polls continue to plummet for Bush.
The polls continue to plummet for Bush.
Keep reminding yourselves of that ...keep saying it , it's true and it can isolate Bush inside a madman's castle . If he is in the mid 30's he's toothless , they'll throw garbage at his car as it rolls past if we tell them they can now ...it's ok , most people can't bare him any longer .Throw garbage .
He needs 3 years in a box of silence , screaming into empty phones and deaf ears. While we hammer his enablers and make that little prick Maclellan piss himself and quit . Make his house a shambles, let the drapes rot on the rods.
Engage his agenda on every front and make it impossible to do any business other than for the people. Slap them at every turn .( Mr Dean , Call out Lieberman Democrats , call them " not different enough and not far enough from the Right Wing agenda that is hurting America")( Mr. Dean , form a shadow government and co-ordinate with the Senate Left , take over . Publicly , loudly , call out what we Would have Done , what the Government Must Do ) and pound these coward brutes for a change .
They can't govern , and they have broken that which they are only temporary custodians of . They have been consistantly incorrect and wrong , and their unbroken string of blunders , failures and debunked falsehood have had their run. Step aside.
Make Rove a neutered criminal , and remind America that we shouldn't listen too closely to felons (Chuckie Colson , Liddy ...Rove ).
Exile, without quarter.
Before it is too late.
Yes if it is Chairman Dean and candidate Clinton in 2008, it will be a worse defeat then Reagan vs. Mondale.
Your powers of foresight this far out are truly impressive. Any chance you can predict the '06 Superbowl so I can make a little scratch?
Mike--are you saying this year we might have Stuffed Republicans available in our local markets?
Soon we will be down the to final 30% or so who are so hard core delusional they will never be redeemed.
Yep. The *supporters* didn't mind so much when Bu$h was blowing up Iraq and brown people, but now they see his incompetence is killing folks right here at home, it's gotta scare the hell out of the not insane people.
Does anyone here know what shit is an acronym for?
seriously...I had no idea until recently.
apologies if this was posted earlier today...I've been unavoidably detained today.
I think she HAS been effectively neutralized by the Right.
That's a common misperception. There was a very good analysis at MyDD about this. Her positive numbers far exceed her negatives. She has great name recognition and is a very underrated campaigner and debater. People like her -- catch her act on the trail. She's good. And she has raised and can raise a lot of money. If she keeps her donor base and the blogs & new small donor machinery gets behind her, it's possible that the DEM candidate could actually outraise the GOP one.
I don't think she's the candidate we need, personally. But the idea she can't win is wrong.
Your powers of foresight this far out are truly impressive. Any chance you can predict the '06 Superbowl so I can make a little scratch?
NTodd
Pats win, but don't cover the spread.
pixie--and what about those skank daughters of hers?
i think the Bush dynasty should be checked for inbreeding.
Yes, Joe Lieberman has to go. He said, in a letter to the editor of the NYT (I think) last fall, that he has a "responsibility to work cooperatively with the President".
Joe Lieberman, Vichy democrat.
Mike--are you saying this year we might have Stuffed Republicans available in our local markets?
Sallyh
Karl Rove would make a lovely Butterball Repug. We could stick one of those pop-up gizmos in his belly so we known when he's done too.
.
Jay C--oh man, not the Pats again.
Like watching robots play.
As we were talking about last night, the companies that make life support equipment, have all been downsized, and merged. We don't have the capability to have large scale rush shipments of these machines any more.
They're attacking every institution with the relentless pragmatism of, yup, you guessed it: a colony of seperate bacteria.
I haven't seen his daughters make any bullshit remarks. Besides, one of them is teaching an elementary school class somewhere.
Bush was made pRresident to make all his business buddies money.
simple as that.
Agent Orange--can you imagine the pop up timer springing from the belly of the Rove?
It'd take days to cook, what with all the fat.
Any chance you can predict the '06 Superbowl so I can make a little scratch?
Troll Karnak predicts that:
In the '06 Super Bowl, The New York Yankees will defeat Howard Dean by 45 million boogaloos to NOTHING!!!!!
Oh, that WWFSMD gravatar is nice
Your powers of foresight this far out are truly impressive. Any chance you can predict the '06 Superbowl so I can make a little scratch?
I dont give out my predictions to Dean/Clinton supporters.
During the 2004 campaign, Mike Brown's FEMA was the gift that kept on giving for Bush's reelection in Florida.
Now it's time for Democrats to get some payback.
pixie--they hired her? Last I heard, neither was working.
Patriot University is where lying morons like Brownie, the IDers, and other right-wing decroded pieces of crap get their degrees.
They can't govern , and they have broken that which they are only temporary custodians of . They have been consistantly incorrect and wrong , and their unbroken string of blunders , failures and debunked falsehood have had their run. Step aside.
speaking of blunders, I heard Joe Conanson say, on Air America, that Bush is planning on bringing up the phase out plan for SS again. "Private Accounts" - how delusional!
It will be interesting to see which Repubs will back him on it - with the mid-terms coming up soon.
'06 Superbowl...
Ditka 147
NFL 0
Moonbotica--I'm sure there's been inbreeding, and Chimpy seems to demonstrate FAS symptoms.
Yeah, that's the ticket. To take the attention away from georgie, let's start trashin' some dems.
No can do, troll. He's in deep shit.
Worst. President. Ever.
I don't think she's the candidate we need, personally. But the idea she can't win is wrong.
Thers
I'm not saying she can't win. My point is it would be the most divisive and viscous campaign we may ever see because of the image of her the Right has created. It could be very very nasty.
Is anybody beginning to see it now?
msnbc just had Abrams talking to the EMTs,Larry Bradshaw and Lorrie Beth Slonsky who were refused entry to Gretna. Says he's going to have the Sheriff of Gretna on later.
I swear, when I return for a visit to the Crescent City, the only reason I'll ever go to Gretna is to spit on the boundary and turn around, never to return.
Can anybody tell me how Gretna voted in the last federal elections?
Nice rant, A.Scott.
Righteous!
Sallyh-Which institutes and research sections? I have to admit that even though funded grants have fallen from about 23% to 12% in N. Inst. of Comm. Dis., I have not seen much outright political garbage. But my guess it is worse in some sections that are more applied, etc.
I had asked the other night if NRA had said squat.
Maybe they are busy reconsidering their position that widespread gun ownership protects people from lawlessness?
People like her -- catch her act on the trail.
people in upstate new york, who are typically republican, are very favorable to her. she has worked very hard with those areas cause they've lost so many jobs. whenever i read nyt regioonal news about her, it's always posted from some town upstate.
In the '06 Super Bowl, The New York Yankees will defeat Howard Dean by 45 million boogaloos to NOTHING!!!!!
HAHAHAHA! Tricked you! Dean can't play in the Superbowl because of an obscure law that prohibits ocelots from playing contact sports.
Sallyh - I do believe I saw an article on one of them starting their first day of school.
It may not be rocket science, but at least one of them is contributing to society.
There's socialism, capitalism, and what we have today- nepotism. Is it any clearer? Definitive nepotism.
Spinoza--in my section, funding fell to something like 7%.
I dont give out my predictions to Dean/Clinton supporters.
How friendly. Well, I have a prediction: you're going to die in a horrible auto-erotic asphyxiation accident in 3...2...1...
Agent Orange, they're taking guns away from everybody in NO. Legal or not, pistols, rifles shotguns. As far as I know, everyone.
that Bush is planning on bringing up the phase out plan for SS again. "Private Accounts" - how delusional!
What I read is that they may try some procedural crap (ala Bolton) to attach a Social Security destruction rider to some other legislation.
If they have the power, do you think they won't?
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"Maybe they are busy reconsidering their position that widespread gun ownership protects people from lawlessness?"
Nah. If anything they'll argue that people needed MORE and BIGER guns.
And yeah, Spinoza, it's really hard in the applied sections right now, especially if you are working on things related to antibiotic resistance (I was), sexually transmitted diseases (I was), and mathematical modeling not related to national security needs.
I would love to see an expert in cults examine the cult of GWB, though.
I think they'd drop him like a dog turd when another Jesus Daddy comes knocking.
It's not George. He's a cypher.
It's what he and the machine behind him is able to inject straight down into their, as Holden's girlfriend Arianna likes say, "leezARD bwains", the amygdala.
it's all about fear and not thinking. It is a cult, but it's not about him personally, he's just the cut out Jesus Daddy.
Karl's working hard right now to find a new better Jesus Daddy, you know it.
Dean can't play in the Superbowl because of an obscure law that prohibits ocelots from playing contact sports.
NTodd
Only if the ocelots at issue are ruffians, ne'er-do-wells, Wobblies, or ladies of ill repute.
Totally OT.
Tena:
If you're still around. I think I found the article about the soldier returning from Afghanistan with CJD (human BSE).
According to the story, they have no idea where he got it. And he had a form that may've arisen spontaneously.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
Thanks for tip on Maher. I imagine when I giggle tonight for no stupid reason at work it will because I remember one of many funny lines.
People like her
The way I see it Hillary is pre-smeared. What can the Swiftboaters say about her that hasn't already been said? If she still gets good approval ratings, then I don't think there's much they can do about it.
Agent Orange, they're taking guns away from everybody in NO. Legal or not, pistols, rifles shotguns. As far as I know, everyone.
Mooser
If true I stand corrected. Is that outside of NO as well or just within the city?
pixie--I hope she'll be a decent teacher. We could use them.
as Holden's girlfriend Arianna likes say
heehee.
Karl Rove would make a lovely Butterball Repug. We could stick one of those pop-up gizmos in his belly so we known when he's done too.
.
Agent Orange - 6:30 pm
According to Jeff Guckert, Rove is already equipped with one of those gizmos, sort of. Not that there's anything wrong with it!
I'll be here all week. Try the veal!
thanks bigvic.That sort of thing rattles around my mind , and it's either type it out or grind down and spit out my teeth.
It's not George. He's a cypher.
It's what he and the machine behind him is able to inject straight down into their, as Holden's girlfriend Arianna likes say, "leezARD bwains", the amygdala.
I like to call hime a "place holder." Since none of his supporters can point out anything they like about him, other than the fact that he's in office.
What courageous Dems we have. Nobody dares to speak the truth about the chimp , he is a racist and certainly does not like blacks is a proven fact. Remember the Florida voter purge, McCain's illegitimate black child, and failure to speak to the NAACP and the black caucus.
Whereas Mississippi, being Republican, hasn't had any problem with aid and assistance.
There have been problems in Miss. Barbour's full of it:
The strong preyed on the old, left them or shoved them aside
Thursday, September 08, 2005
Vicki Smith and Malcolm Ritter
Associated Press
http://www.cleveland.com/news/pl...3020.xml&
coll=2
And consider Bay High School in Bay St. Louis, Miss. It was an unofficial shelter turned cesspool, the sight of which Gary Turner, Trudy Roberts and Felix Ruiz said should be considered a crime.
The three strangers became a rescue team of sorts when they fled to the high school themselves and found people in their 70s, 80s and 90s wallowing in their own waste on the auditorium floors. They had been brought to the school and aban doned, most unable to move without help.
"Rats wouldn't even go in there," said Turner, of Bay St. Louis.
My point is it would be the most divisive and viscous campaign we may ever see because of the image of her the Right has created. It could be very very nasty.
I see what you're saying... but EVERY campaign is the most vicious and divisive ever. Bush did that deliberately -- split the country acrimiously. It's not going to get any less nasty or ugly whover we nominate unless the GOP leadership decides to grow up and start putting the country first. And that will never happen.
Hillary is indeed the only insider candidate I'd even consider supporting, because she's the only one with long experience of what will be pulled no matter who runs.
From the WaPo 12/15/04:
First daughter Jenna Bush, who put her career plans on hold while campaigning to reelect her father, has decided to live in Washington and plans to teach at a District public school that serves low-income children. The White House would not release details yesterday, but we've learned that she has applied to teach at Elsie Whitlow Stokes Community Freedom Public Charter School in the Mount Pleasant/Columbia Heights neighborhood.
Can't find anything else about Jenna getting a job. Notice this article is from nine months ago.
Unbelievable.
There's a site called www.FindAGrave.com.
They have famous entries and non-famous where you can post photos, etc, for genealogical purposes.
Some ASSHOLE just posted this on the entry for the Hurricane Katrina victims:
Too bad the Mayor and Governor "dropped the ball" by not ordering an evacuation 4 days before when Preisdent Bush asked them to. Since the 1950's it was public knowledge that the levies wouldn't hold during a category 3 and they were expecting a Category 5. They also knew since the 1950's that it would take 72 hours to evacuate during good weather. Now your Mayor is tired and wants to take a vacation with his cops in Las Vegas. What a moron! Rest peacefully to all of his victims.
-Anonymous
Added: 9/10/2005
Naturally, it's anonymous.
And what the fuck is the shit about Nagin and Vegas.
Does this asshole freeper know about his precious preznit's vacation?
I hate Bush supporters....they are stupid and sociopathic like their asshole hero!
Karl Rove would make a lovely Butterball Repug. We could stick one of those pop-up gizmos in his belly so we known when he's done too.
By the time that gizmo pops up, he'll be overdone. Dry breast meat.
Not sad, really.
My Post:
Rest in peace
(Too bad that the prior poser is delusional!)
Wingnuts ignore the graft and corruption of republican politicians because they know they would do the same and hope to one day if they're not already.
Ocelots
The Ocelot (Leopardus pardalis, or Felis pardalis) is a wild cat distributed over South and Central America. Its northernmost occurrence is Texas. It is up to 100 cm (3'2") in length, plus 45 cm (1'6") tail length. It is similar in appearance to the Oncilla and the Margay, who inhabit the same region, but the Ocelot is larger. The name of the animal derives from Náhuatl ocelotl (IPA /ɔ.θɛ.ɬɔtɬ/).
The Ocelot is very nocturnal and territorial. Like most felines, they are solitary, usually meeting only to mate. However, during the day they rest in trees or other dense foliage, and will occasionally share their spot with another Ocelot of the same gender.
Mr. Dean , form a shadow government and co-ordinate with the Senate Left , take over . Publicly , loudly ,
Great minds, traveling in the same direction! I was thinking the same thing, earlier, but I was thinking of Al Gore, my president, rather than Dean. We need a shadow president who just begins to work, to call those who can act at govt. agencies and tells them what to do, who tells America what we need to do to rebuild. There's a huge fucking vacuum of leadership right now. Huge. You can hear the sucking sound. Someone is going to step in and fill that vacuum and I'd much prefer Dean or Gore to some fundie wackjob. I think there's maybe another 72 or 100 hours left.
omg, it's were-Abrams!
Ya know, I see this brief report on some business making video screens for tombstones, so you could communicate beyond-the-grave.
Perhaps we should all record a final rant, so, once dead, we can yell at passersby 24/7/365. We could berate them for greed, sloth, bigotry, whatever, and it might sink in as this would be coming from dead folk.
I hear dead people.
Recipe for Stuffed Republican:
Find one overweight Republican (oughtn't be too hard)
Wash thoroughly to remove the slime.
Stuff the interior cavity of the Republican with bullshit (may have already been supplied)
If you have only enough bullshit to stuff half of a Republican please see the recipe for Roast Lieberman.
Nail the Republican to a wooden plank
Roast at 450 degrees for 6 hours
Discard the Republican and eat the plank.
that the levies wouldn't hold
Some get voted up. Some down.
Jesus, these people are stupid.
While Ocelots are well equipped to an arboreal lifestyle, and will sometimes take to the trees, they are mostly terrestrial. Prey includes monkeys, snakes, rodents and birds. Almost all of the prey that the Ocelot hunts is far smaller than it is. Studies suggest that they follow and find prey via odor trails, but Ocelots also have very keen vision.
The Ocelot's fur resembles that of a Jaguar; it was once regarded as particularly valuable, and because it was so popular the Ocelot remains one of the most well known of the small wildcats. Several hundreds of thousands of Ocelots were killed for their fur; therefore this cat is now an endangered species in many countries, although the IUCN lists them as "Least Concern".
What's not successful about graft and corruption for resource accumulation if there are no longer any negative consequences?
What courageous Dems we have. Nobody dares to speak the truth about the chimp , he is a racist and certainly does not like blacks is a proven fact.
Dean did, asswipe.
Sallyh-
Well that is depressing. Wait till the gov't has to hand out +100 million innoculations, and we find that the CDC is full of patronage jobs, that the epidemiology has not been done, and the FEMA director directs people to places where there are no medical supplies.
that the levies wouldn't hold
Levee levies fail. Pool film at 11.
Hecate - I have been meaning to tell you this, and kept forgetting. When I was in Gunnison Tuesday, I was behind a car that had 1 sticker on the back window: "Wiccan"
I kept trying to wave at the woman, but she never looked in her rear view mirror.
What's not successful about being stupid these days?
Hecate, so what part of the nightshade do you use, and for what.
Nightshade grows wild here. If you don't yank it out it will take over your garden.
Yah, want some, and what part of the plant, roots, stem, leaves berries, or seeds?
It'd take days to cook, what with all the fat.
Sallyh
Good heavens. You'd need a battalion of sous chefs just to skim the fat.
I kept trying to wave at the woman, but she never looked in her rear view mirror.
Tena | Email | Homepage | 09.10.05 - 6:43 pm | #
Never look back.
I just read the tale of the hundreds of people trying to leave NO and being turned away at the foot of the bridge by the police. The witnesses said police fired guns over their heads and took their food and water. They were told the town "didn't want another Superdome." Jeebus.
Levee
A levee, levée (from the feminine past participle of the French verb lever, "to raise"), floodbank or stopbank is a natural or artificial embankment or dike, usually earthen, which parallels the course of a river. The word levee seems to have come into English through its use in colonial Louisiana.
(snip)
The purpose of artificial levees is to prevent flooding of the adjoining countryside; however, they also confine the flow of the river resulting in higher and faster water flow.
Levees are usually built by piling earth on a cleared, level surface. Broad at the base, they taper to a level top, where temporary embankments or sandbags can be placed. Because flood discharge intensity increases in levees on both river banks, and because silt deposits raise the level of riverbeds, planning and auxiliary measures are vital.
Prominent levee systems exist along the Mississippi River and Sacramento Rivers in the United States, and the Po, Vistula, and Danube in Europe.
Thers,
I'm with you. They'll swiftboat whoever runs. Hil's already been swiftboated and still pulls in big bucks and has high positives. They're not going to play nice, so we shouldn't worry about that. Hil's shown that she does not have Kerry's glass jaw. I don't like some of her votes, but I'd contribute to her campaign and work for her election. I'm about to be fifty. I want to see a woman president before I die.
I was in Occoquan, VA, today, where they imprisoned and force fed the suffragettes. I want to see a woman president before I die. If Diebold is going to take it away from us anyway,well, I'd like to see a woman get nominated and lose more than I want to see another rich white man get nominated and lose.
Fresh air above.
The new American religion: George Bush as a cult figure.
Hecate , yours is the great mind .
Gore is just such a wickedly excellent man , but he's got Clinton all over him , and he's too damn nice ( polite , if slightly less wooden since the beard)Sadly , it wouldn't do for him to run for Vice with anyone , but what a Chief of Staff! I think we all need someone with fire , and as the Rude one said " Dean will fuck your shit up " and thats about all we can hope for right now. He just needs someone who can keep him on message and a few shit hot writers.
These delusional punks should be a breaze to pound flat against the cold hard granite of reality. Like crumpling up a Bazooka Joe you've already read .
Evening all!
Off for the ritual Saturday
elitist chardonnay quaffing
ceremony.
Anybody planning on watching
the big MTV Katrina rock star
do?
Moonbotica, that is all true. But ocelots, and their deadly cousins, the puma, plague the upstate New York region. I saw several puma on the drive home from the kid's soccer game today, lurking fiendishly in the woods.
Doug,
I use all the different parts for various spells and unents. Don't handle it w/o gloves though, and never wnen you have a cut on your hand.
I'm not saying she can't win. My point is it would be the most divisive and viscous campaign we may ever see because of the image of her the Right has created. It could be very very nasty.
Agent Orange
I'm not even worried about the campaign. I'd worry that she'd NEVER be able to govern effectively because the Scaife slime machine and its enablers in the media would be all over her from day one. She'd be fending off bullshit smears five minutes after she was inaugurated.
...battalion of sous chefs just to skim the fat.
flory
> Just run a siphon to an underground tank .
I would love to study a wingnut, (and I just say 'wingnut' and not a 'typical wingnut' because they're all the same). All I get are snippets of psychology from places like this. They're hugely secretive and guarded. I imagine them with small black reptile eyes. In their group-think, I primitively imagine they consider themselves on a group hunt.
I'm just speculating...
I'd like to see a woman get nominated and lose more than I want to see another rich white man get nominated and lose.
Hecate
I hope to see responsibility to the general welfare restored to our federal government. I'll settle for any party prevailing over the Republicans.
NMRed asked about how Gretna voted in the 2004 election.
Jefferson Parish profile. Gretna is the county seat. "Jefferson Parish supported George W. Bush in the 2004 presidential election."
From this link: "Jefferson Parish supported George W. Bush in the last two presidential elections. According to unofficial vote totals for 2004, Bush received 117,882 votes and Kerry received 72,136 votes."
watching cnn. shrimper paddling around in small boat with a flag draped about his neck, surveying the damage. muttering to him self "the govt. agh, fema agh, bush ack, and to think i voted for the stupid bastard, shows you how smart i am."
I imagine they primititively believe their on some sort of group hunt.
What I read is that they may try some procedural crap (ala Bolton) to attach a Social Security destruction rider to some other legislation.
If they have the power, do you think they won't?
.
Agent Orange
Never get it passed. The only thing less popular than Chimpy is SS 'reform'. Any Congresscritter who voted for it could kiss their job goodbye in '06.
'Specially if they tried to do it under the table.
I would love to study a wingnut, (and I just say 'wingnut' and not a 'typical wingnut' because they're all the same). All I get are snippets of psychology from places like this. They're hugely secretive and guarded. I imagine them with small black reptile eyes. In their group-think, I primitively imagine they consider themselves on a group hunt.
I'm just speculating...
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the hardcore base would put us in camps in a heartbeat if they could
I kept trying to wave
Tena,
You rock. I saw a bumpter sticker today that said, "It's a Druidic thing; you wouldn't understand it." Actually Colorado is full of pagans. Pagans are like the nice suburban people who move in after the gay couples gentrify a neighborhood. First the new agers invade and then, a little later, bang, you've got pagans all over the place, mostly looking down on the new agers.
watching cnn. shrimper paddling around in small boat with a flag draped about his neck, surveying the damage. muttering to him self "the govt. agh, fema agh, bush ack, and to think i voted for the stupid bastard, shows you how smart i am."
charley | Email | Homepage | 09.10.05 - 6:50 pm | #
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i wouldn't want a ragin cajun on my ass...
> Just run a siphon to an underground tank .
Biodiesel. Darn, I could have driven to Philly with that much fuel.
Dean did, asswipe.
No he didn't.
He tempered his remarks and used age and class along with racism. Why is it so hard to say Bush is simply a racist. Is this the new third rail in Amerrican politics. Cant say the truth about Bush.
Always hedging their words. Just like a few other brave Dems.
Lokk what Babs said, and I doubt the apple doesn't fall to far from the tree. Maybe George the elder asks the chimp if he is getting any black pussy.
Orange, I do believe that it was in NO. That is what the article mentioned. Don't know about the rest of LA. The article did say all firearms, legal or not.
But as usual, I can't be sure the article was exact about the information.
Besides, do people commonly carry their permits for, say, a hunting shotgun with them through a flood? Can they even locate their permits right now?
I'm sure they're much more worried about the deed to their house.
listening to all who've commented; what data gives a 50% possibility of the bird flu going pandemic.
that was the original post and i still feel that it was fear mongering.
pandemic: occurring over a wide geographic area and affecting an exceptionally high proportion of the population
is it worth watching and having good people doing work on it? yes. am i going out tomorrow and wrapping my house in saran wrap and duct tape on the 50/50 chance? no.
-J.T.
I hope to see responsibility to the general welfare restored to our federal government. I'll settle for any party prevailing over the Republicans.
Max Planck
That's how most democrats think but they don't operate like that. They'll work co-operatively out of necessity for their smaller number individual resource accumulation.
Or something like that.
Yah, want some, and what part of the plant, roots, stem, leaves berries, or seeds?
doug | Email | Homepage | 09.10.05 - 6:44 pm | #
better not be messing with the nightshade. take it from a botanist. plants are very powerful.
Democrats think cooperation. They think greedy individualism, ignoring majority inequality.
i wouldn't want a ragin cajun on my ass...
Speaking of which, Jim Carville's own sister is now homeless as a result of Katria. I haven't heard any comments from him.
Message from the GOP: We care.
http://goodmorninghouston.blogsp...nt-bush-
or.html
BTW, if you're wondering why the brownshirts have gotten back on the "bus" meme, it's probably because there's a story in tomorrow's Times detailing the incompetence of the Fuckface McAsshole administration's response:
The governor of Louisiana was "blistering mad." It was the third night after Hurricane Katrina drowned New Orleans, and Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco needed buses to rescue thousands of people from the fetid Superdome and convention center. But only a fraction of the 500 vehicles promised by federal authorities had arrived.
Ms. Blanco burst into the state's emergency center in Baton Rouge. "Does anybody in this building know anything about buses?" she recalled crying out...
Later:
Under the Bush administration, FEMA redefined its role, offering assistance but remaining subordinate to state and local governments... With Katrina, that meant the agency most experienced in dealing with disasters and with access to the greatest resources followed, rather than led.
FEMA's deference was frustrating. Rather than initiate relief efforts - buses, food, troops, diesel fuel, rescue boats - the agency waited for specific requests from state and local officials. "When you go to war you don't have time to ask for each round of ammunition that you need," complained Colonel Ebbert, the city's emergency operation director.
Telephone and cell phone service died, and throughout the crisis the state's special emergency communications system was either overloaded or knocked out. As a result, officials were unable to fully inventory the damage or clearly identify the assistance they required from the federal government. "If you do not know what your needs are, I can't request to FEMA what I need," said Lt. Col. William J. Doran III, of Louisiana's Office of Homeland Security and Preparedness.
To President Bush, Governor Blanco directed an ill-defined but urgent appeal.
"I need everything you've got," the governor said she told the president on Monday. "I am going to need all the help you can send me."
What part of that couldn't Fuckface understand? Or was his guitar too loud?
Dean did, asswipe.
No he didn't.
Gosh, he didn't exactly say the words you want him to say. HIGH CRIME!
Blow it out your asshole, asshole.
the hardcore base would put us in camps in a heartbeat if they could
moi
I have no doubt about that but I don't think it's "a difference in ideology." I think they percieve liberals as a threat to their resource gatthering strategy.
I think these two strategies have always been around with humans but with the Internet and other right-wing media and predator corporation funding, it's allowed them to consolidate their strategy to become more dominant.
It's doomed to failure long-term because of the emerging trends that will require more human cooperation.
is it worth watching and having good people doing work on it? yes. am i going out tomorrow and wrapping my house in saran wrap and duct tape on the 50/50 chance? no.
-J.T.
JohnTomato | Email | 09.10.05 - 6:57 pm | #
duct tape will not help. in fact i'm not really sure anything will help much. except a vaccine.
Let me ask anyone this: What explains their such utter disgust at "liberals" who are percieved as wanting to help everyone and level the economic field?
Look, my thesis my be wrong, but dammnit, whatever I apply it to, in this instance human political behaivor, the holes always line up.
It's the best explanation I have other than they're just morons. There's way more to it than just that.
JT, do whatever you want.
And I use the term "bacteria" not only because I do have some contempt for humans, but also because it's the easiest and simplest example to see of how all living organisms on this planet operate.
Name one group of species on this planet that doesn't act like bacteria.
"All prerequisites for the start of a pandemic have now been met save one: the establishment of efficient human-to-human transmission."
ok. then there's this from the c.d.c.
"The risk from bird flu is generally low to most people because the viruses occur mainly among birds and do not usually infect humans."
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/avian/gen...an/gen...-info/
facts.htm
-J.T.
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JT CORRECCCCCCCCTOPEOPLE TO PEOPLE TRANSMISSION WAS ....NOT SEEN!!!!!THEREFORE...NO PANDEMIC, I USED TO WORK IN A LAB!!! all you SKEERDY CATS....SELL YOUR SWINE period or get a VACINATION!!!geeze louise
sittenpretty
what sort of lab?
-J.T.
right. like piling on clinton got old for the media and the r's.
it will not get old. people are dumb. the story must be repeated until it becomes fact, even though it all ready is.
incoming....
Ashley Judd sent me a love letter.
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