I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Mine does too.
You are a chameleon.
It's blank for me. Is that a good thing? Maybe it is.
You'd buddha believe it...
what would the kingfish say:
make the big boys
and the fat cats pay.
start with the billionaires and their heirs....
File a wrongful death lawsuit.
This calls for more than just karma; it calls for instant karma!
NSTANT KARMA
(John Lennon)
Instant Karma's gonna get you
Gonna knock you right on the head
You better get yourself together
Pretty soon you're gonna be dead
What in the world you thinking of
Laughing in the face of love
What on earth you tryin' to do
It's up to you, yeah you
Instant Karma's gonna get you
Gonna look you right in the face
Better get yourself together darlin'
Join the human race
How in the world you gonna see
Laughin' at fools like me
Who in the hell d'you think you are
A super star
Well, right you are
Yikes! It's in the main stream press. How can we believe that...?
Well, it's something the NYT found it worth printing.
What's wrong with you people?
Don't you realize that the police were just doing their job.
Those people turned back didn't have the common decency to be able to properly sunburn.
My conservative freind today was talking about how she would have "walked out" of NO. I was glad to be able to tell her about this incident. She must have heard of it, as well, because she quickly changed the topic.
Here's a song I like:
Splashdown---Karma Slave lyrics
Artist - Titan A.E. soundtrack
Album - Titan A.E.
Lyrics - Splashdown---Karma Slave
Today I'll be spinning on a Wheel
I'm a slave to a Wheel
And there isn't any stopping
What mistake(s) could I have made?
I'm a slave serving time for a life that I've forgotten.
I'm a slave of Karma
Spin the Wheel and I'm a king reborn
I'm a slave to Karma
I'm coming back, yeah, I'll be coming back
But for the last time.
Today I'm a king on the Wheel
Still a slave to the Wheel
But this time around I'm smiling
Keep me cautious, keep me safe, just in case there's a chance
I can leave this Wheel behind me.
Stand in the Middle and you won't get dizzy
Stand in the Middle and you won't fall down
If you stand in the Middle you can keep your balance
Stand in the Middle while the Wheel spins round and round...
I'm a slave of Karma
Spin the Wheel and I'm a king reborn
I'm a slave to Karma
I'm coming back, yeah, I'll be coming back
But for the last time.
I'm a slave of Karma
Spin the Wheel and I'm a King reborn
I'm a slave to Karma
I'm coming back, yeah, I'll be coming back
But for the last time.
How do all the Wheels inside the Wheels revolving,
Go on, and on, and on, and on, and on...
Spinning on the Wheel the souls of One evolving,
Live on, live on, live on, live on, live on...
Anyone who claims that they know the answer's coming back again...
Who's at the center of the Wheel
The inventor of the Wheel
or another spinning servant
I'm the Master of my Wheel of my very own Wheel
Universal and recurrent
I'm a slave of Karma
Spin the Wheel and I'm a King reborn
I'm a slave to Karma
I'm coming back, yeah, I'll be coming back
But for the last time.
"...a suburban police officer angrily ordered about 200 people to abandon an encampment between the highways near the bridge. The officer then confiscated their food and water, the four witnesses said. The incidents took place in the first days after the storm last week, they said.
They had to confiscate the food and water so people would have to buy it later from price gougers, who are heroes because they made sure only people who really needed that food and water got it.
I’ve been mentioning the James Kroeger article, The Republican Nemesis, on the blogs because I feel so strongly about its potential to make the Democrats the majority party again.
It’s lengthy, but it’s packed with insights into why Democratic campaign strategists fail when they go up against the Republicans.
Here’s what others have been saying about The Republican Nemesis.
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My best friend, who lives in Italy, emailed me the entire affidafit of this experience this morning. I don't know how to link it and have asked my friend if she knows someone who does. I believe it is an historical document that requires recording in the halls of history.
If you have advice regarding how I can link it from my email I would be obliged.
wonder what the spin will be. by the way, not that it matters to me, but if this happened before the "looting," can the cops be blamed for creating a dangerous situation? they suck anyway, but how much do they suck? (by they i mean the cops who wanted to keep the southern parishes free of "undesirables") oh, and was broussard in anyway responsible for the actions of these officers? i understand they were trying to defend jefferson parish, which, i think, is broussard's parish.
Okay, was able to read the link.
I don't know what to say. Except maybe, I hope I wouldn't have behaved the same way.
Mob mentality on the side of the law. I'm thinking it's been this way for more years than I want to admit.
Worse yet, that story took place the night before George the Nitwit first came to New Orleans -- so it's after FEMA said everything was supposed to have been "okay" and that help was on the way.
That's really sickening. It tells you the media frame that everything was okey dokey was quite full of shit, doesn't it?
Honestly, the more we try absurdity and satire and sarcasm to cope with this administration's helming of the country... they just catch up with it.
Or: those sheriffs were just a few bad apples.
Isn't this the same kind of treatment the Okies got at the California border in like, oh, 1930?
Splashdown---Karma Slave lyrics
I wish I could find the lyrics for "Instant Karma Coffee House" by Loud Sugar...
A bridge too far.
Karma had delicious food.
the Bush Junta were paraody and reality meet?
sometimes i cannot tell, this misadmistration is so fucking awful.
Now we know where the remnants of the Rhodesian Army are stationed.
London brigde is falling down, falling down...
I shit you not:
Street by Street Bodies Found
Search for Corpses Expands
Cheney Upbeat About Relief Effort
That's AOL's main screen Top News Headline right now.
And what upbeat words of wisdom does Darth Veep offer:
Vice President Dick Cheney visited an emergency management center in Austin, Texas, and said the government was finally gaining control of the situation. "I think we are in fact on our way to getting on top of the whole Katrina exercise [emphsis mine]. We've got a lot of work ahead of us," he said.
Reuters' story, AOL link - sorry, but can't find that particular quote at Reuters' site yet.
File a wrongful death lawsuit.
Mr. X
You can believe there are personal injury lawyers lining up to find these people.
That town, and probably parish, are bankrupt.
OK, here's a quiz.
You can go back in history and kill any one person. Who would you pick?
Tonight, I'm going with St. Patrick.
God those fucking people are vile. May their gated communities rot and fester from within.
Perhaps the self-proclaimed culture mavens of the conservatard media should explore the racist aspects of a culture revolving around self-gratification for Jeebus; a white Christian ethos of fried Twinkies and pickup trucks.
Bastards.
wow, & we all read that story *last* week didnt we?
why does the nyt find it "fit to print" now?
not that im not grateful!!!!
Tonight, I'm going with St. Patrick.
Is the preznit a direct lineal descendant?
The sad thing is, the only reason people will believe this story is that it's verified by two paramedics.
Evening, freethinkers
Fucking hell. Looks like Dante will need to do some renovating, eh?
Hecate--Prescott Bush.
I think we are in fact on our way to getting on top of the whole Katrina exercise
The flood waters are in their last throes.
I think we are in fact on our way to getting on top of the whole Katrina exercise
The flood waters are in their last throes.
London brigde is falling down, falling down...
I'm reading a great book which looks at the history of various nursery rhymes and it explains that London Bridge did fall down and need to be rebuilt many many times. It's a fun book.
Did anyone see the guy on CNN in the rowboat with the American flag draped around his shoulders?
He was shouting to the reporters, "Government, phthew. FEMA, phthew. Bush better not show his face around here. Stupid bastard. And I voted for him. How stupid does that make me."
Ray of hope?
In the meantime crony capitalists with Bushco ties get juicy contracts to clean up and rebuild NO:
Firms with White House ties get contracts.......
While the man who would be President personally helps airlift 270 victims to Tennessee.
Gore airlifts victim out of New Orleans
Ah yes, please contrast the selfless liberal with the the compassionate conservative who just sees this as an opportunity to make money.
Note to Brit Hume: Buy more Halliburton, you'll really "clean-up" on this investment!
I just riffed on that very thing, Kay.
'exercise'??? Friggin idiot...
Hecate--Annotated Mother Goose rocks.
Lawson dumbfuck is on MSNBC
Gretna police chief on now. And may I just say- Grecian Formula for men!
Tonight, I'm going with St. Patrick.
Is the preznit a direct lineal descendant?
Ripley--aww, drink a beer and kiss a redhead 
It was really selfish of those fleeing people to starve and be black. They should be ashamed of themselves, if they're still alive.
Maybe this'll teach 'em to plan better and be born to rich white families next time...
So the sheriff has a story that there was some riverboat that had broken loose and they were afraid it was gonna bust their leevees, so they couldn't allow more people into town.
*cough*bullshit*cough*
Ripley--aww, drink a beer and kiss a redhead
I do not drink... beer. Send me a redhead, STAT!!!
Hecate-
St. Paul.
Note to Brit Hume: Buy more Halliburton, you'll really "clean-up" on this investment!
HAL Stock
8/29/05 – $57.80
9/9/05 – $66.10
Because I never tire of trying to shame them and the people who profit from them.
a white Christian ethos of fried Twinkies and pickup trucks.
I am SO stealing that.
I'm reading a great book which looks at the history of various nursery rhymes
'Ring around the rosie' has an interesting origin, doesn't it?
Eli--gotta find one first.
And Bush is going to observe Sept 11 tomorrow with a moment of silence before he leaves for New Orleans once again?
Does even Karen Hughes realize they have done milked that cow dry?
You can go back in history and kill any one person. Who would you pick?
hmmm St Peter
NTodd,
Much less, "Jill fell down and broke her crown."
Eli--gotta find one first.
You don't see any *anywhere*?
Hey, Sally! Hubba! and cheers!
Stupid bastard. And I voted for him. How stupid does that make me.
As Obi Wan sagely asked, "who is the more foolish? The fool, or the fool who follows him...?"
I posted this a couple of threads down, but wanted to make sure it gets some play... from tomorrow's Times:
The governor of Louisiana was "blistering mad." It was the third night after Hurricane Katrina drowned New Orleans, and Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco needed buses to rescue thousands of people from the fetid Superdome and convention center. But only a fraction of the 500 vehicles promised by federal authorities had arrived.
Ms. Blanco burst into the state's emergency center in Baton Rouge. "Does anybody in this building know anything about buses?" she recalled crying out...
...an initial examination of Katrina's aftermath demonstrates the extent to which the federal government failed to fulfill the pledge it made after the Sept. 11 attacks to face domestic threats as a unified, seamless force.
Instead, the crisis in New Orleans deepened because of a virtual standoff between hesitant federal officials and besieged authorities in Louisiana, interviews with dozens of officials show.
Federal Emergency Management Agency officials expected the state and city to direct their own efforts and ask for help as needed. Leaders in Louisiana and New Orleans, though, were so overwhelmed by the scale of the storm that they were not only unable to manage the crisis, but they were not always exactly sure what they needed. While local officials assumed that Washington would provide rapid and considerable aid, federal officials, weighing legalities and logistics, proceeded at a deliberate pace.
FEMA appears to have underestimated the storm, despite an extraordinary warning from the National Hurricane Center that it could cause "human suffering incredible by modern standards." The agency dispatched only 7 of its 28 urban search and rescue teams to the area before the storm hit and sent no workers at all into New Orleans until after Katrina passed on Monday, Aug. 29.
On Tuesday, a FEMA official who had just flown over the ravaged city by helicopter seemed to have trouble conveying to his bosses the degree of destruction, according to a New Orleans city councilwoman.
"He got on the phone to Washington, and I heard him say, 'You've got to understand how serious this is, and this is not what they're telling me, this is what I saw myself,' " the councilwoman, Cynthia Hedge-Morrell, recalled.
State and federal officials had spent two years working on a disaster plan to prepare for a massive storm, but it was incomplete and had failed to deal with two issues that proved most critical: transporting evacuees and imposing law and order.
The Louisiana National Guard, already stretched by the deployment of more than 3,000 troops to Iraq, was hampered when its New Orleans barracks flooded.
Partly because of the shortage of troops, violence raged inside the New Orleans convention center, which interviews show was even worse than previously described. Police SWAT team members found themselves plunging into the darkness, guided by the muzzle flashes of thugs' handguns, said Capt. Jeffrey Winn.
"In 20 years as a cop, doing mostly tactical work, I have never seen anything like it," said Captain Winn. Three of his officers quit, he said, and another simply disappeared.
On Saturday, officials said that ten people died at Superdome, and 24 died at the Convention Center site, although the causes were not clear.
Oliver Thomas, the New Orleans City Council president, expressed a view shared by many in city and state government: that a national disaster requires a national response. "Everybody's trying to look at it like the City of New Orleans messed up," Mr. Thomas said in an interview. "But you mean to tell me that in the richest nation in the world, people really expected a little town with less than 500,000 people to handle a disaster like this? That's ludicrous to even think that."
You can go back in history and kill any one person. Who would you pick?
hmmm St Peter
Could we kill Jebus before he made it big?
Just realized I don't know how to spell bridge.
Hecate, what is the name of the book you are reading?
I'd love to know the history behind the nursery rhymes I learned as a child and also taught my children.
"Ashes, ashes, we all fall down."
Much less, "Jill fell down and broke her crown."
That's not in the version I heard:
Jack and Jill went up the hill
To have a little fun.
Stupid Jill forgot her pill,
And now they have a son!
..."who is the more foolish? The fool, or the fool who follows him...?"
Who fools the foolmen?
I wouldn't buy any Haliburton. Haliburton gives off a really bad Enron vibe to me. And you're talking to a woman who held onto MicroStrategy all the way down. But I will not buy any Haliburton and not becuase of moral qualms. That's going to crash and burn and it's going to be ugly. Just my gut.
TAJIKISTAN: CRISIS OF INDEPENDENT MEDIA SPARKS INTERNATIONAL CRITICISM
Over the past year, Tajikistan’s independent media have suffered one setback after another. All the major opposition newspapers have been shut down, and recently the editor of one of those newspapers was jailed on what many say are politically motivated charges. The Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) has now expressed concerns about Tajikistan’s media environment.
There are fewer sources of information in Tajikistan these days. Independent media, especially newspapers, have been hit hard. Two dailies have simply vanished -- a fact that has been noticed by those selling newspapers.
"The popularity of newspapers like ’Ruzi Nau’ and ’Nerui Sukhan’ was high among our customers, but they have not been putting them out lately. I hope they start again," one newspaper vendor says.
Readers agree the closings are unhealthy for the country’s political development. One reader in Dusanbe lamented the disappearance of "Ruzi Nau."
May their gated communities rot and fester from within.
Or at least may the spirits of the lost sit at the end of their beds every night.
I must say - Alien Apocalypse has some clever lines. Something about a Republician President allowing the invasion or something? Anyone watching?
"Ashes, ashes, we all fall down."
mer | Email | 09.10.05 - 7:28 pm
i think that one celebrates the fate of those medieval folks unfortunated enough to contract plague...
That stupid fucker keeps defending his horrible decision. What a Dick.
That's going to crash and burn and it's going to be ugly. Just my gut.
How can The Official Contractor Of The U.S. Government crash and burn? I mean, talk about a reliable revenue stream.
BTW, why did I think of NTodd when I saw this?
You can go back in history and kill any one person. Who would you pick?
Tough question. It'd be Hobsons choice between two abortions.
One in 0 century Galilee and one in 7th century Iran/Iraq/Saudi Arabia.
America to introduce ban on caviar
The United States is expected to impose a blanket ban very shortly on the import of beluga caviar from the Caspian Sea region, in a move designed to prevent the delicacy from vanishing forever from melba toasts and fine bone china dishes because of drastic environmental damage and over-harvesting.
Beluga has long been considered the tastiest and most aristocratic of caviars, especially in the United States, which accounts for almost 80 per cent of consumption. But, last year, the US officially placed the fish that produces the rare roe, the beluga sturgeon, on its endangered species list.
"The government has got to stop stacking senior positions with people who are repeatedly cashing in on the public trust in order to further private commercial interests," said Danielle Brian, executive director of the Project on Government Oversight.
But that's what the federal government *is* now: A giant funnel for a huge-ass slush fund. Nothing but.
Allbaugh's other major client, Baton Rouge-based Shaw Group, has updated its Web site to say: "Hurricane Recovery Projects -- Apply Here!"
It's all above-board, you see.
That CNN article is not bad.
So, I'm confused by the Police Chief.
Basically he's saying he doesn't regret making the decision he made on the bridge he says he wasn't even on that night?
The sad thing is, the only reason people will believe this story is that it's verified by two paramedics.
Memekiller
The media will believe this story because its told by two white people.
Police agencies to the south of New Orleans were so fearful of the crowds trying to leave the city after Hurricane Katrina that they sealed a crucial bridge over the Mississippi River and turned back hundreds of desperate evacuees, two paramedics who were in the crowd said.
And the dyed-hair sheriff just tried to offer the excuse that he was worried about his levee failing.
Then what would have happened to them, sez he?
Could we kill Jebus before he made it big?
Herod tried that. Didn't work.
"Ashes, ashes, we all fall down."
Interestingly, Snopes says the popular myth about that rhyme's origin is false. That one I'm not entirely convinced about based on the evidence they provide...
You can go back in history and kill any one person. Who would you pick?
Saul of Tarsus.
NO has long been the most corrupt in the country. That was thuggish to fire weapons over their heads and turn them away.
The media will believe this story because its told by two white people. When they gave their interview on MSNBC they were sitting in front of a large peace symbol. Their words are toast to the heartland of America.
NTodd: How' bout NORTH.
"You mean across the bridges that were blocked?"
NO, I mean the bridges that were open. Typical leftist habit, focus on one thing (1 bridge) "And how far north do you think they needed to go, given this was a regional disaster?" How about far enough so they wouldn't freaking drown, Baton Roufge maybe. Ever been to Louisiana? It ain't that far, even if every bus was packed and the congestion made it impossible to come back that would have been thousands out of there. Parse this, asshole. You too Steve Simels.
Hecate - I love the sound of the book you're reading about nursery rhymes. I am interested in children's games - I don't know if kids still play them, but when I was a kid, we played Red Rover and Little White House Over the Hill, and Kick the Can, and Swing the Statue, and on and on. Some of those games are really old.
And that's a frivolous topic for such a thread. I can't believe this shit - I honestly cannot believe it. Bush has dismantled this country's infrastructure just about completely. Goddamn - we have to stop this. We are coming apart at the seams.
...the only reason people will believe this story is that it's verified by two paramedics.
Well, the brownshirts were trashing them last night because they were two "socialists" from San Francisco.
They didn't want their bacteria colony coming into their bacteria colony clearly requiring limited resources.
The book is Heavy Words, Lightly Thrown: The Reason Behind the Rhyme: The seamy and quirky stories behind favorite nursery rhymes by Chris Roberts
Great fun, so far.
Well that's three for for St. Paul. Good enough for me. Fire up the time machine, NTodd!
From NYT (and up on Sully):
Some holdouts seem intent on keeping alive the distinct and wild spirit of this city. In the French Quarter, Addie Hall and Zackery Bowen found a unusual way to make sure that police officers regularly patrolled their house. Ms. Hall, 28, a bartender, flashed her breasts at the police vehicles that passed by, ensuring a regular flow of traffic.
The media will believe this story because its told by two white people.
Okay, turning away white people is just beyond the, um, pale.
...the only reason people will believe this story is that it's verified by two paramedics.
There were two others who confirmed it as well.
I missed a conversation string, evidently, but I'm curious if Wycliffe has ever walked from New Orleans to Baton Rouge.
I haven't.
BTW, Brownshirt W is particularly amusing tonight. Completely pwned, completely clueless, still thrashing about for dear life... I do love watching their death throes!
...the only reason people will believe this story is that it's verified by two paramedics
What about the white couple?
" You can go back in history and kill any one person. Who would you pick?
Saul of Tarsus."--
Central Scrutinizer
Agreed. Started the culture war override of Jesus' perfectly reasonable teaching.
Enough talk. Let's move.
Meet me at the Lexington Ave. stop of the N train. There I have hidden a time machine...
curse helloscan
Violent clashes erupt in Belfast
Several police have been injured and a civilian shot during loyalist rioting over the re-routing of a controversial Orange Order parade in Belfast.
The Chief Constable urged calm and said police who were shot at and attacked with explosives had returned fire.
Hugh Orde said the Orange Order must bear "substantial responsibility" for the rioting over the Whiterock parade.
DUP head Ian Paisley blamed the Parades Commission for not reviewing the route that barred it from a nationalist area.
The parade was re-routed to avoid the mainly nationalist Springfield Road area.
Reposted from last thread, didn't know there was an upstairs:
Abrams interview:
Gretna police chief: "We were not prepared to accept evacuees."
Oh, this police chief is full of shit. "Evacuees wouldn't have been better off. We kept them out of Gretna to protect THEM."
He calls the MRE and water theft "ludicrous, mistaken identity." "I was not on top of the bridge, I didn't take anything." "We will look into it."
Says it was STILL not a mistake to keep evacuees out of Gretna. Because Gretna's levee might have broken.
"Okay, turning away white people is just beyond the, um, pale." --
Eli
You. Go sit in the corner. Now.
Tena, it's too late.
It's over.
How can The Official Contractor Of The U.S. Government crash and burn? I mean, talk about a reliable revenue stream.
Well, it's a reliable revenue stream until it isn't anymore. Everyone said Enron was a reliable revenue stream.
I hereby give the medal of freedom to TRUTH SEEKER...JT
All prerequisites for the start of a pandemic have now been met save one: the establishment of efficient human-to-human transmission."
ok. then there's this from the c.d.c.
"The risk from bird flu is generally low to most people because the viruses occur mainly among birds and do not usually infect humans."
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/avian/gen...an/gen...-info/
facts.htm
-J.T.
**********************************
JT CORRECCCCCCCCTOPEOPLE TO PEOPLE TRANSMISSION WAS ....NOT SEEN!!!!!THEREFORE...NO PANDEMIC, I USED TO WORK IN A LAB!!! all you SKEERDY CATS....SELL YOUR SWINE period or get a VACINATION!!!geeze louise
sittenpretty | Email | Homepage | 09.10.05 - 7:29 pm | #
Mr. Bradshaw and his partner, Lorrie Beth Slonsky, wrote an account about their experiences that has been widely circulated by e-mail and was first printed in The Socialist Worker.
That's bullshit. It was first posted online here:
http://www.emsnetwork.org/
artman...cle_18337.shtml
But moved since then.
Hecate - I may pick that book up - I was intrigued by book The Witch Must Die: How Fairy Tales Shape Our Lives, but that one sounds like more fun.
Do you realize how disgusting it is that white people have to verify the abomination that took place in New Orleans to make it real?
That sheriff can go fuck himself with his hair dye-wand.
I am a corporate attorney working in Houston in the offshore diving/oil & gas business. Also, a Navy vet. Long story, but I have always been a liberal Democrat. However, I must confess that I am much more pissed off and politically active now as a result of GWB.
As you might expect, the people in my business are mostly right-wing Republicans and they just expect everybody else to be the same. In the past week, I have received two vile rascist e-mails from Louisiana-born white males, one from another employee of my company and the other from an outside attorney.
I have many friends from my Navy days that live up north, some Republican. I have tried to tell them just how vile these southern Republicans are, but they just can't comprehend it.
The sheriff is just another Democrat that enables Bush, just like Clinton and Dean.
"Fire up the time machine, NTodd!"
Damn it, spinoza, we can't all go back in time at once.
I propose a game of rock, paper, scissors.
Troops seize British-owned cattle ranch in Venezuela
Venezuelan troops have reportedly seized a huge British-owned cattle ranch as part of an agrarian reform programme targeting large estates that the government says it wants to redistribute to the poor.
Agroflora, a local affiliate of Vestey Group owned by meatpacking tycoon Lord Vestey, said in a statement on Thursday that a convoy of troops and cooperative farmers had arrived at the ranch, which is located in the south-western state of Apure.
Article continues
However, official confirmation of the events could not immediately be obtained.
The land redistribution plans are rooted in a new constitution, which was passed soon after President Hugo Chávez took office in 1999, and which defines large estates as being "contrary to the social interest".
aeon flux--oh yeah, we're there!
Marcia Brady-
Paper!
Why do they need Blackwater *security* forces in NO when they have evacuated most of the stinking town? Don't they already have enough thugs around like Sherrif Lawson (ironic name)?
I have tried to tell them just how vile these southern Republicans are, but they just can't comprehend it.
Good FSM. Just send 'em over to LGF or Freeperville -- they can read it and weep.
Interestingly, Snopes says the popular myth about that rhyme's origin is false. That one I'm not entirely convinced about based on the evidence they provide...
NTodd
They don't really provide any more evidence than the case for, and elsewhere on the same site they explain in exactly the same kind of theological "no data but hey look at our arguments" way that sing a song of sixpence was a similarly meaningful allegory, used by pirates to recruit.
Well, it's a reliable revenue stream until it isn't anymore. Everyone said Enron was a reliable revenue stream.
If I were a bit more amoral and had more money to invest, I would buy the shit out of Halliburton, then sell it all the second a Democrat got elected preznit.
Good luck, squid. Sounds like you're in for a rough 3 years there.
BTW, why did I think of NTodd when I saw this?
I'm typecast.
Kinda makes you wonder if outerlying backwoods communities would have been equally frightened about an exodus of urban New Orleans black and mixed race folk BEFORE the hurricane hit.
"Marcia Brady-
Paper!" --
spinoza
Damn, I threw rock...
No, wait, I meant scissors!
I have tried to tell them just how vile these southern Republicans are, but they just can't comprehend it.
squid696
I know what you mean... it's everywhere though. Even in CA.
spinoza,
Scissors!
I have tried to tell them just how vile these southern Republicans are, but they just can't comprehend it.
squid696
True redneck, rock-stupid southren Rethugs have to be experienced to be believed.
Ditka, I have the new location of the story. At least it worked yesterday:
EMT Story
Damn it, spinoza, we can't all go back in time at once.
I sense a disturbance in the Force.
i've been going back and forth with my bushbot relative who says tha t broussard's appearance was an act...in fact he said
"Broussard was hilarious!
he was reading from a script the whole time. the crying was a nice touch!"
i wrote him back that it was quite possible that he had gotten little sleep in the past few days and maybe he wrote stuff down so he wouldn't forget what he wanted to say.
then he sent me an email he got from a friend that was so full of crap. i googled key phrases from that email; sure enough, it came from free republic site. i was able to debunk most of it -- except -- (maybe you all could help me out) who is/was responsible for the maintainance of the levee system? the email said it was under local...all can find is army corp of engineers which is federal, right? i can't find anything where it says the local government is responsble. who is correct?
thanks
The sheriff is just another Democrat that enables Bush, just like Clinton and Dean.
He is indeed a Dem. The rest of your statement is complete hogwash. FOAD.
The sheriff is just another Democrat that enables Bush, just like Clinton and Dean.
He is indeed a Dem. The rest of your statement is complete hogwash. FOAD.
" Why do they need Blackwater *security* forces in NO when they have evacuated most of the stinking town? Don't they already have enough thugs around like Sherrif Lawson (ironic name)?" --
bigvic
They have to have someone there to guard the Macy's and intimidate the photographers.
And what upbeat words of wisdom does Darth Veep offer:
Vice President Dick Cheney visited an emergency management center in Austin, Texas, and said the government was finally gaining control of the situation
Bullshit! The red cross and the military are. Our government agencies haven't done squat.
Echidne--I have chocolate cake in the oven. I need the theobromines.
Hilarious. A men's hair-dye commercial on MSNBC.
The land redistribution plans are rooted in a new constitution, which was passed soon after President Hugo Chávez took office in 1999, and which defines large estates as being "contrary to the social interest".
Moonbootica
Excellent. We need more of that here. I'm voting for Castro/Chavez in 2008.
Good FSM. Just send 'em over to LGF or Freeperville -- they can read it and weep.
All they're going to do is harp on the fact that the two people who recounted the incident are from San Francisco and that the article was printed in some kind of leftist newpaper.
Do you remember when they (Toby our vile little racist troll to be specific) were undermining the account of the murder in the prison at Bagram air force base by harping on the fact the one of the people involved in uncovering it was an Arab?
Do you remember how they were trying to undermine Amnesty International by talking about how its director was a Muslim.
White, racist, conservatives are going to circle the wagons. Let's hope they're less than that 40% of the population Bush still has.
And 'redneck' is not limited to the South. Plenty of the little knee biters in IL and WI and IA.
Take away the accent and you've got the same snuff-dippin', racist, no-eyelid jerks. It's universal...
Tyburn Jig, I say.
Let tham all dance the Tyburn jig, on live TV, lined up on a long row of gallows stretching across the very bridge they tried to defend against that horde of looting jiggaboos.
I think it will either be that or an uprising the likes of which has not been seen in a looong time in this country, putting Watts and the Rodney King affair to shame.
I saw tham interviewing that Lawson pig just now -- "wouldn't have been any better off in Gretna" indeed!
Boy he was just the kind of fat-assed mustachioed cracker pig I expected him to be.
I want to see his eyes bulging out of his head as the lard is rendered from his body over a slow fire.....
Italy body to link Muslims, government
Italy's Interior minister has approved the creation of an advisory council to improve communication between the government and the Muslim community, the ministry announced.
The body will respond directly to the Interior Ministry, and will be responsible for counselling the government on facilitating the integration of Muslims in Italy.
Its members will be representatives from Italy's Muslim community and academics appointed by the ministry, officials said on Saturday.
"They will express opinions, and formulate proposals on questions indicated by the ministry," Minister Giuseppe Pisanu was quoted as saying by the ANSA news agency.
What has been the greatest threat to the Bush regime so far is that the wider bacteria colony of America, watching what happened following Katrina, now sense they're in danger. That's when the worm turned. It's acting out of its best interests now. Just like it rallied behind the regime following 911 for its percieved survival, now it will abandon it.
Karma police, arrest this man
He talks in maths
He buzzes like a fridge
He's like a detuned radio
who is/was responsible for the maintainance of the levee system?
The Army Corp of Engineers is responsible for maintaining all waterways that are used in interstate commerce.
That made the responsible for the levee system.
Wow, Atrios...it looks as if you've managed to purge any dissenting voices and now you are left with a vast Amen Chorus, peopled by mean-spirited, sophomoric dullards.
Not a dissenting voice anywhere....just the way you like it!
We've got sheriffs shooting dogs, refusing to help people. Ah it's a Christian nation all right.
Murdering mother fuckers!
Did anyone see the guy on CNN in the rowboat with the American flag draped around his shoulders?
i saw it posted it below. don't know if it's a ray of hope, but damn fine 2 mins. of TV.
Bush, Stupid Bastard!
And 'redneck' is not limited to the South. Plenty of the little knee biters in IL and WI and IA.
I see Confederate Flags and those "911 Terrorist Hunting Permit" decals all over New Jersey.
We've also got a Minuteman infestation trying to get a foothold.
Fuck you! I'm not mean-spirited.
Not a dissenting voice anywhere....just the way you like it!
Thanks for noticing!
Buh bye now!
tomaig - you're not dissenting, are you?
Wow, Mr. Rove...it looks as if you've managed to purge any dissenting voices and now you are left with a vast Amen Chorus, peopled by mean-spirited, sophomoric dullards.
Not a dissenting voice anywhere....just the way you like it!
JT CORRECCCCCCCCTOPEOPLE TO PEOPLE TRANSMISSION WAS ....NOT SEEN!!!!!THEREFORE...NO PANDEMIC, I USED TO WORK IN A LAB!!! all you SKEERDY CATS....SELL YOUR SWINE period or get a VACINATION!!!geeze louise
sittenpretty | Email | Homepage | 09.10.05 - 7:29 pm | #
yes it was.
He is indeed a Dem. The rest of your statement is complete hogwash. FOAD.
What do you mean? I am sure the Sheriff was just doing what Bush and his southern supporters expected of him. Well Zell is a Dem too. I am sure all the in Dems in the Senate will be going to the Nurnberg rally tomorrow.
. That's when the worm turned. It's acting out of its best interests now. Just like it rallied behind the regime following 911 for its percieved survival, now it will abandon it.
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Word! Just watch the rest of the rats abandon ship when the heating bill arrive. Hoo boy, you'll hear wingers screaming bloody murder.
Praise jeebus my belief in karma grows stronger by the day.
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A-MAN YOUR KARMA GROOVES, OH YES!!!!
Little Georgie Bitch is supposed to honor New Orleans with his presence again tomorrow.
Would it be too optimistic to hope he catches something?
Like cholera?
The Army Corp of Engineers is responsible for maintaining all waterways that are used in interstate commerce.
A family member works for the Corps and they're sending people to NOLA now, including contracting specialists, from as far away as Washington (state).
flory, Business Manager --
thank you!!
flory, Business Manager --
thank you!!
And 'redneck' is not limited to the South.
We got rednecks aplenty in N.CA. Visit Lake county some time. It and Bakersfield/Fresno, (home of Free Republic) are the crank capitals of CA. There is a joke in Sonoma Co. about the difference between Lake and Sonoma counties. The punch line is: "A few teeth"
well atriots i am going to read some more of Empire of the Plains: Henry Rawlinson an the Lost Languages of Bablyon by Lesley Adkins then get some shut eye.
ciao for now.
black water is in NO?
jebus, haven't PSC done enough damage in iraq.
do these bastards never learn? or are they just practicing up?
sallyh, I need all the chocolate I can get. I've caught a bug of some type. Keep falling asleep suddenly. Though it may have something to do with the last fortnight of not sleeping much at all.
More seriously, why is the Times telling that the article came out in the Socialist Worker and not that it came out in the EMT magazine? I blogged about the EMT article maybe on Thursday (have to check), so the EMT magazine might have been the first publication.
Take away the accent and you've got the same snuff-dippin', racist, no-eyelid jerks. It's universal...
Ripley
Ain't it the truth? Every state in the nation has its rednecks.
"Take away the accent and you've got the same snuff-dippin', racist, no-eyelid jerks. It's universal..." --
Ripley
Exactly. And just the type whose progeny would benefit from a little race-mixing, and yet would be completely deadset against it.
Compare Halle Berry, Vanessa Williams, Alicia Keys to any purebred cracker and see who benefits from the comparison.
But it's already too late. Our country, metaphorically speaking, like the great Titanic, once thought unsinkable as well, has gone far past the striking the iceberg. It will sail on a bit longer as if the great ship is intact. But its fate is inevitable.
The sheriff is just another Democrat that enables Bush, just like Clinton and Dean.
gb | 09.10.05 - 7:40 pm | #
That's nice, dear.
Now go and play.
Nothing like the reporting of EMT's on the scene. It's like disbelieving firefighters - can't be done.
TOMAIG!!!
Haven't seen you here in quite a while.
How are you doing, darlin'?
Bill Nye, the Science Guy, sure delivered more bad news for those who live downstream of the Crescent City.
sophomoric dullards.
Thanks. But I'm more like a doctoral dullard.
Tomaig asshole,
Are you gonna defend that beady-eyed little pig Lawson?
Are you?
Then you are a no-good racist sack of shit, and whether or not anybody or everybody around here agrees with Atrios makes no difference whatsoever to that fact. You ought to be strung up right alongside Lawson and his band of KKK vigilantes. I'd be happy to string you up myself, I would, although I normally abhor violence, because I'm just that angry. It's time for decent people to finish the job that Abraham lincoln started last century, and put all you racist swine into the afterlife to receive your just deserts!
For your information shit-for-brains, we've been discussing this story here in the threds for days now. Atrios is actually quite tardy picking it up.
Has the band started playing?
"Take away the accent and you've got the same snuff-dippin', racist, no-eyelid jerks. It's universal..." --
The Reagan/Bush/Bush coalition is was put together in 1968, partly by George Wallace.
The whole point of Wallace was that he united racist Southerner with racist Northern whites (ie Reagan Democrats).
Break up this coalition and you break up the Republican party.
I prefer white trash to redneck.
Redneck sounds to me like people who actually get sunburned by working for a living.
Compared to the trailer trash types.
And why do I have the sinking feeling that, if this Katrina fiasco were accompanied by falling oil prices rather than skyrocketing ones, Bush's poll numbers would not have taken nearly as big a hit.
Wow, Atrios...it looks as if you've managed to purge any dissenting voices and now you are left with a vast Amen Chorus, peopled by mean-spirited, sophomoric dullards.
Have you been to
Ministry of Silly Walks
Vanessa Williams? drooooool...
Sorry, lost my self-control there.. he he he
mmmm Vanessa.... mmmmm
Karma is real? That would be a relief to me.
I call them rednecks and bluenecks and pencil necked geeks.
Compare Halle Berry, Vanessa Williams, Alicia Keys to any purebred cracker and see who benefits from the comparison.
Marcia Brady,SaneByComparison
Just compare any of the above to Jenna and notJenna.
"Have you been to
Ministry of Silly Walks" --
Shoeless Joe Stalin
That link is fabulous.
Redneck sounds to me like people who actually get sunburned by working for a living.
Isn't this the origin of the term? I have uncles who are farmers and their necks are permanently tanned a deep red, but they are otherwise pretty white because they keep their shirts on while driving a harvester or a tractor.
Vanessa Williams? drooooool...
Sorry, lost my self-control there.. he he he
mmmm Vanessa.... mmmmm
Ripley
I can't believe that both of that gal's husbands cheated on her.
Are those guys nuts?
Unfortunately, people around the world will see this as a reflection of all Americans, not as just rednecks in the Deep South and George Bush isn't going to do anything to help reverse that. Prepare for more attacks on US troops and holdings everywhere.
Living in Knoxville, TN, I am certainly aware of the "redneck" population. It's funny though, some of these people, not the Christian fundamentalists, have good souls (can't think of another word right now to describe what I mean). If you have a dead battery when you get ready to leave the parking lot of the grocery store, not one but two, will drag out their jumper cables and help restart your car. Even will a year-old Kerry bumper sticker on the back of your car.
Ministry of Silly Walks
My absolute favorite Monty Python skit.
Redneck sounds to me like people who actually get sunburned by working for a living.
Those are leathernecks and some of them got that way lolling by their expensive pools in New Jersey and overdosing at the tanning salon. Hard work if you can get it. White folks haven't done that kind of labor, except for construction and roadwork, which pays damn good, in years.
I am sure all the in Dems in the Senate will be going to the Nurnberg rally tomorrow.
The trolls these days provide such a target-rich environment...
I prefer white trash to redneck.
Redneck sounds to me like people who actually get sunburned by working for a living.
Compared to the trailer trash types.
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat
My dear, something my very genteel Southern grandmama pointed out - trash is trash. White, black, red or brown, the defining element is the trash, not the color. And it has nothing at all ever to do with class except to repel it.
I must shell peas. I will talk to you fine folks after the peas are shelled.
I was being silly. I'm from the ministry of silliness. Echidne is right, and it's not always a perjorative term in usage.
Man, an overwhelming stench has appeared in the Amen Chorus hall. Smells like death. Smells like the death of the conservative and neoconservative movements.
Actually, just smells like some trolls movement.
Atrios, if you're gonna tell everybody what to think, can't you at least spray a little Lysol around? Stink of wingnut ass-breath making me gag.
Now back to your regularly scheduled mesmerizing.
MTV is doing some fabulous work right now.
It's worse than you think, tomaig! I once made a comment which was not in line with the approved script and two huge guys turned up at my door and threatened me!
And I hear Atrios is going to get real strict about spelling errors. If he ever starts enforcing standards which they have to do with syntax, I'm sunk, sunk, tomaig.
It's horrible.
How do you get through?
My dear, something my very genteel Southern grandmama pointed out - trash is trash. White, black, red or brown, the defining element is the trash, not the color. And it has nothing at all ever to do with class except to repel it.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar
And niggers come in ALL colors!
Rednecks? or Peckarwoods?
The difference is that the latter are dumber, uglier, crueler, and prouder of it...
I must shell peas. I will talk to you fine folks after the peas are shelled.
Peas out, flory.
I am sure all the in Dems in the Senate will be going to the Nurnberg rally tomorrow.
The trolls these days provide such a target-rich environment...
NTodd
Where's Nurnberg?
I'd very much like to live somewhere where there aren't so many guns as there are here.
I honestly don't much like guns. And this glimpse into what can happen anywhere in this country, if there is some catastrophic failure, is like a fucking apocalyptic sci-fi movie. More and more Americans are armed and it's going to be hell on earth.
Take the guns out of the picture, it changes. When you can't kill so fast, there is just that much more of a chance you'll have a 2d thought, perhaps, or someone can stop you. I don't know.
I know this will piss off and make me the target of flames from our 2d Amendment loving libs, but I just don't think I want to live in this MadMax movie. I wish nobody did.
Trailer trash is chic now. They even have one of those makover while you were out shows on some network. MTV, VH1, not sure.
And niggers come in ALL colors!
I think Byrd got in trouble for saying something like that...
Hold on, it's been a while:
The buses! The buses! Why didn't the mayor drive all the buses!
Sorry, got used to it.
Where's Nurnberg?
Just down the road from Dumbkirk, I hear tell...
And niggers come in ALL colors!
I think Byrd got in trouble for saying something like that...
NTodd | Email | Homepage | 09.10.05 - 8:05 pm | #
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Baby was a black sheep.
Baby was a whore.
Baby got big and she's gonna get bigger.
Baby got her hand on the finger of a trigger.
Baby baby baby was a rock and roll nigger.
Those are leathernecks and some of them got that way lolling by their expensive pools in New Jersey and overdosing at the tanning salon. Hard work if you can get it.
Er, I live in a working class, heavily Democratic town in South Jersey and I guarantee we DON'T live like THAT!
I can't find any information on Jeb Bush having to sign over his National Guard troops during any of the Florida hurricanes.
Anyone?
OSU! OSU!
OSU! OSU!
black water is in NO?
jebus, haven't PSC done enough damage in iraq.
Yep, and packing major heat, even though only law enforcement is allowed weapons. WTF? Laws are so bothersome to Bu$hCo.
And niggers come in ALL colors!
I think Byrd got in trouble for saying something like that...
NTodd
Bush is a white one.
OSU! OSU!
I take it you saw the Irish beat the Wolverines?
I have an elderly white woman as a neighbor. I'd never heard the expression "nigger in the wood pile" before. It shocked me, coming from her, and I'm not easily shocked.
Wasn't someone here discussing the old song "Red Neck, White Socks and Blue Ribbon Beer" the other day?
All things redneck, for your perusal: http://www.answers.com/topic/redneck
y dear, something my very genteel Southern grandmama pointed out - trash is trash. White, black, red or brown, the defining element is the trash, not the color. And it has nothing at all ever to do with class except to repel it.
Whites seem pretty adept at blaming other races for their *failings*.
Look inward.
Trailer trash is chic now. They even have one of those makover while you were out shows on some network. MTV, VH1, not sure.
Shoeless Joe Stalin |
Stupidity and crudeness will NEVER be chic with ME.
We got rednecks aplenty in N.CA.
So whereabouts are you, Shoeless Joe?
OSU! OSU!
Looks like they may have ten thousand people there.
Where's Nurnberg?
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbatz
It is the German name of the city not the English spelling, Sorry if you did not recognize it.
The Reagan/Bush/Bush coalition is was put together in 1968, partly by George Wallace.
i was going to say reagan ruined this country, bush is the finishing touch.
my dad voted for wallace, mostly 'cause he hated nixon (the one thing we agreed on.) but he was more than a little racist himself.
SWR, knowing how you like photography i must mention how much i like avedons portrait of wallace glaring at the camera, with his black aide peering behind his wheel chair. never been able to fully decipher it, but it is one powerful portrait.
this nation is in deep shit, on a lot of levels.
Er, I live in a working class, heavily Democratic town in South Jersey and I guarantee we DON'T live like THAT!
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat
I confess, this was about 30 years ago. My mother had moved from Manhattan to Fort Lee. It was a co-op and that's what the pool area was populated with. I'd bet they are all down in Florida now.
Peas out, flory.
Visualize whirled peas...
For Marcia Brady's benefit, I had the worst fight of my live with Bunny-Bunny when he stupidly (I'd say ignorantly except he wasn't ignorant one bit) committed an act of horrific rudeness in the face of the lady who had helped take care of my Grandmama in her last days - Sra. Elvira Martinez, a fine lady indeed. He knew better, he knew better from birth if not before. I'm pretty sure that was the first time I realised that snobs are actually dangerous, the amount of damage they can do.
"wouldn't have been any better off in Gretna" indeed!
See, the thing is, in this here Newnited States of Newmerica, we let the people decide this kind of thing for their own selves. There;s a Supreme Court case that I'm too lazy to goolge that says Americans get to move around America. If they go somewhere that there aren't any jobs or where the food is all fried, or where the music is shitty, or where the mosquitoes are bad, well, then they can get up and moveon. But the police in Town A don't get to keep out the merchants or wanderers from Town B. Something to do with that Interstate Commerce Clause or something, if I recall.
I know this will piss off and make me the target of flames from our 2d Amendment loving libs, but I just don't think I want to live in this MadMax movie. I wish nobody did.
Tena |
I used to feel that way, but I changed my mind after the 2004 election.
I plan on protecting myself and my family.
On August 3, 2005, the United Nations World Health Organization (WHO) said it was following closely reports from China that at least 38 people have died and more than 200 others have been made ill by a swine-borne disease in Sichuan province. Sichuan Province, where infections with Streptococcus suis have been detected in pigs in a concurrent outbreak, has one of the largest pig populations in China. The outbreak in humans has some unusual features and is being closely followed by the WHO. At that time, Chinese authorities say they have found no evidence of human-to-human transmission [6].
JT CORRECCCCCCCCTOPEOPLE TO PEOPLE TRANSMISSION WAS ....NOT SEEN!!!!!THEREFORE...NO PANDEMIC, I USED TO WORK IN A LAB!!! all you SKEERDY CATS....SELL YOUR SWINE period or get a VACINATION!!!geeze louise
sittenpretty | Email | Homepage | 09.10.05 - 7:29 pm | #
yes it was.
moi | Email | 09.10.05 - 7:52 pm |
GUESS YOU ARE QUITE MISTAKEN
Where's Nurnberg?
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbatz
It is the German name of the city not the English spelling, Sorry if you did not recognize it.
No, Nuernberg is the German spelling, if you aren't going to use an umlaut.
SWR, knowing how you like photography i must mention how much i like avedons portrait of wallace glaring at the camera, with his black aide peering behind his wheel chair. never been able to fully decipher it, but it is one powerful portrait.
I've never seen that one.
Visit Upper Saddle River in North Jersey, sometime. It's like that there.
"I take it you saw the Irish beat the Wolverines?
NTodd"
yEEEEhaw: MICHIGAN SUCKS!
this nation is in deep shit, on a lot of levels
Barkeep! Get this man a drink, on me!
I take it you saw the Irish beat the Wolverines?
I love Lloyd Carr. Great coach.
But the people here who live for Michigan football victories are pathetic beyond words.
Iowa State beat Iowa, if anyone cares.
Where's Nurnberg?
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbatz
It is the German name of the city not the English spelling, Sorry if you did not recognize it.
gb | 09.10.05 - 8:09 pm | #
Oh, well - whoopty shit!
And why do I have the sinking feeling that, if this Katrina fiasco were accompanied by falling oil prices rather than skyrocketing ones, Bush's poll numbers would not have taken nearly as big a hit.
Marcia Brady
I mentioned above that once the heating bills arrive, the few remaining sane Bu$h supporters will grab their pitchforks.
Just down the road from Dumbkirk, I hear tell...
I am sure you are familiar with that place.
Nurnberg is the correct German spelling
Just wanted to give a better feeling for tomorrow's rally. I am sure you would love to be there.
Visit Upper Saddle River in North Jersey, sometime. It's like that there.
New Jersey needs to be flooded and wiped off the planet. It's full of racists, wingnuts, and generally idiotic callous rich people in general. It's a blight.
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But it's not Ohio and we never elected Schwarzenegger as governor.
...the only reason people will believe this story is that it's verified by two paramedics.
Hope these two paramedics have security and lawyers
Visit Upper Saddle River in North Jersey, sometime. It's like that there.
Shoeless Joe Stalin
I don't care for those places in North Jersey.
I know what you're talking about and I have no time for those people up there!
Rita on MSNBC right now relating a rescue effort wherein she tried, unsuccessfully, to talk an elderly woman into coming out of her flooded house.
imagine....Rita Cosby in hipwaders, backed up armed infantrymen---really redefines the phrase "hell or high water", doesn't it?
this nation is in deep shit, on a lot of levels
On some levels.
I know this will piss off and make me the target of flames from our 2d Amendment loving libs, but I just don't think I want to live in this MadMax movie. I wish nobody did.
Tena |
I used to feel that way, but I changed my mind after the 2004 election.
I plan on protecting myself and my family.
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat
You don't have to own a gun. You might be wise to take a basic safety course in firearm safety and learn how to use one in the process, just in case.
if you aren't going to use an umlaut.
Dude, you'll get Kraut cooties. Fraulein gets around, if you know what I mean.
OT, but rescuing cats in New Orleans.
New Jersey needs to be flooded and wiped off the planet. It's full of racists, wingnuts, and generally idiotic callous rich people in general. It's a blight.
Nothing everyone in NJ is rich!
Nurnberg is the correct German spelling
See above.
Just wanted to give a better feeling for tomorrow's rally. I am sure you would love to be there.
You're right, I totally wish I could be there, because I'm a Democrat and like fascist rallies.
No wait, neither of those statements are true. Blow me.
And niggers come in ALL colors!
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I think Byrd got in trouble for saying something like that...
Can't count the number of times I've heard some Virginia asshole come off with that line, usually right after using the word "nigger" and seeing my eyebrows go up. That phrase is widely regarded as an excuse when a white racist slips up and assumes s/he's talking to another white racist (because of course all white people are supposed to hate blacks).
Trust me on this. I grew up in a family where I'd have been backhanded for uttering "damn," yet the N word would not have raised their eyebrows. Not proud of it, but there it is. I can still remember an aunt telling what everyone thought was a hilarious joke: that it had been decreed that the phrase "nigger in the woodpile" could no longer be used, and now you were required to say "there's a black man in the lumberyard."
I don't care for those places in North Jersey.
Two words. Cherry Hill. A North Jersey town if there ever was one.
Cyclones won? Excellent....not only is my younger brother an ISU alumnus, I've hated the Hawkeyes since the days of Hayden Fry (another prick who rode his Texan shtick into the hearts of the rubes)...
Dude, you'll get Kraut cooties. Fraulein gets around, if you know what I mean.
Ich kenne nicht...
I am sure you would love to be there.
gb | 09.10.05 - 8:13 pm | #
If I am an Atriot, why would I want to attend that rally?
You don't even make sense!
Why are troops pointing guns at evacuees?
Are they considered "enemy combatants"?
Nothing everyone in NJ is rich!
Some of them are racist white trash.
Most of my family, for example
Rita on MSNBC ...relating a rescue effort wherein she tried, unsuccessfully, to talk an elderly woman into coming out of her flooded house.
"Cmon lady! Just grab onto this loogie..."
I know what you're talking about and I have no time for those people up there!
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat
I couldn't stand the weather. Been in the PNW for the last 37 years. I like fog and rain, not the heat or the muggy humidity of the east coast.
I don't care for those places in North Jersey.
Two words. Cherry Hill. A North Jersey town if there ever was one.
SWR
Also has a large Jewish population that's largely Democrat.
I didn't invade Iraq, ignore the 9/11 warnings, bankrupt the country, or use the Constitution for toilet paper.
Karma got me anyway. Perhaps I was Henry Ford, General Sherman, or Napoleon in my past life.
*One of the big problems here is communication.*
Isn't that ALWAYS the problem?
If I am an Atriot, why would I want to attend that rally?
If this is the Freedom Walk rally you won't get in.
It's going to be fenced off from the Pentagon to the mall.
I like fog and rain, not the heat or the muggy humidity of the east coast.
Shoeless Joe Stalin | 09.10.05 - 8:16 pm | #
I would be happy if I never saw rain or snow again!
I hate the cold!
Also has a large Jewish population that's largely Democrat.
And fanatically pro Israel.
New Jersey needs to be flooded and wiped off the planet. It's full of racists, wingnuts, and generally idiotic callous rich people in general. It's a blight.
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But it's not Ohio and we never elected Schwarzenegger as governor.
PA full or racists and wingnuts too...
Ohio, full of more corrupt govt than the usual... I have not set foot in Ohio since the 2004 election FUCK EM not spending my hard earned dollars there no more
This is interesting. HST's last words:
In a dispatch on Hunter S. Thompson's star-studded, surreal memorial service, Rolling Stone has published what appears to be the journalist's suicide note. The short note, written in black magic marker on Feb. 16 -- four days before his suicide -- and titled "Football Season Is Over," reads as follows:
"No More Games. No More bombs. No More Walking. No More Fun. No More Swimming. 67. That is 17 years past 50. 17 more than I needed or wanted. Boring. I am always bitchy. No Fun -- for anybody. 67. You are getting Greedy. Act your old age. Relax -- This won't hurt."
The article, written by Douglas Brinkley, Thompson's biographer and literary executor, says, "although he left the grim missive for Anita, his young wife, Hunter was really talking to himself." (Rolling Stone)
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If I am an Atriot, why would I want to attend that rally?
If this is the Freedom Walk rally you won't get in.
It's going to be fenced off from the Pentagon to the mall.
SWR
Yep, that IS Bush's symbolic blow job of which I speak.
I wouldn't be caught dead there - even if I was permitted to participate.
Nixon, Sinatra and... Bob Dylan
Upper Saddle River, N.J. I bet Monica Crowley has a place up there.
Nixon, Sinatra and... Bob Dylan
Don't put Nixon in the same sentence as Sinatra and Bob Dylan.
This is interesting. HST's last words:
Wow, I think even more now of Harry S. Truman.
Also has a large Jewish population that's largely Democrat.
And fanatically pro Israel.
SWR
I don't live anywhere NEAR Cherry Hill and I'm of Irish/English descent.
All of the towns around mine are working class and Dem, too.
spinoza!
Can't count the number of times I've heard some Virginia asshole come off with that line, usually right after using the word "nigger" and seeing my eyebrows go up. That phrase is widely regarded as an excuse
Silliegh,
I go OFF on anyone using the n word around me, no matter who they are.
I would be happy if I never saw rain or snow again!
I hate the cold!
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat |
The rain in Hawaii wouldn't bother you. The size of the wood spiders and cock roaches would scare the bejeesus outta me, though. And I have seen giant roaches in NYC.
Jenny!
My 24 year old daughter turned me onto Frank about 4 years ago.
I didn't care for Old Blue Eyes' politics, but boy what a voice!
I don't live anywhere NEAR Cherry Hill and I'm of Irish/English descent.
Translation. White. And I'm not liking white people very much these days. I can barely look in the mirror sometimes.
I didn't care for Old Blue Eyes' politics, but boy what a voice!
Didn't he hang out with JFK?
And I have seen giant roaches in NYC.
Then there are the ones in Texas!
"He knew better, he knew better from birth if not before. I'm pretty sure that was the first time I realised that snobs are actually dangerous, the amount of damage they can do." --
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar
I'm sorry. I believe all white people (and many people of color) fight a real internal battle with racism. I know I do, and I come from an interracial family.
BTW, Green Day is on the MTV Katrina benefit doing "Wake Me Up When September Ends" right now.
Yeah, but then he allied himself with the OTHER SIDE later.
Cherry Hill?
She's such a thrill - after dark!
(Down in Cherry Hill Park...)
lavalamp: if that silly Cosby chick came to my front door, I would have to release the hounds
And I have seen giant roaches in NYC.
The correct eupemism is "waterbugs".
I lost my virginity in a dank NYC apartment and just as I was about to, um, come inside a woman for the first time in my 19 years, a waterbug flew around the room and landed on my back.
Don't put Nixon in the same sentence as Sinatra and Bob Dylan.
I would say: Don't put Dylan in the same sentence as Sinatra and Nixon, but I know what you mean. I like his music, but Sinatra was a putz.
mentioned above that once the heating bills arrive, the few remaining sane Bu$h supporters will grab their pitchforks.
Word. Find a sweater and some socks to wear around the house this winter. I'm planning to just not use the heat until Jan. or Feb. when I have to turn it on to keep the pipes from freezing.
ups
Translation. White. And I'm not liking white people very much these days. I can barely look in the mirror sometimes.
SWR
Well, sorry.
I'm not about to hate myself for being white!
Holy Crap! Somebody on my block just fired a shotgun. Twice. Shit. Called the cops, they're on the way.
Terry C- those aren't roaches, darlin' those are "water bugs"
You're right, I totally wish I could be there, because I'm a Democrat and like fascist rallies.
Yes. But all the leading Dems will be there like Biden,Jomomentum, Clinton,Bayh and Zell. Being a democrat, would not make you really out of place there.
(((Jenny)))
How was NY?
I lost my virginity in a dank NYC apartment and just as I was about to, um, come inside a woman for the first time in my 19 years, a waterbug flew around the room and landed on my back.
SWR |
Ewww! Sounds like a drug induced William S. Burroughs rant, ala Naked Lunch.
I'm not about to hate myself for being white!
You should. I'm sick to death of white Christian Americans. I wish I could develope a germ that would just wipe them off the planet.
I don't know about jurisdictional issues during an "emergency", but those Jeff Parish cops were a good mile and 1/2 inside Orleans Parish, maybe two miles.
New Jersey needs to be flooded and wiped off the planet. It's full of racists, wingnuts, and generally idiotic callous rich people in general. It's a blight.
You'll find bigots in every city and every state in this country and every other country.
It's not like any one place has a monopoly on ignorant, stupid individuals.
I lost my virginity in a dank NYC apartment and just as I was about to, um, come inside a woman for the first time in my 19 years, a waterbug flew around the room and landed on my back.
SWR
Ewwwwwww! Yuky!
And dave: "Cherry Hill Park" - Billy Joe Royal?
Used to love that song in high school.
There was a gal in our neighborhood in Philly who used to bang everyone, and we changed the song lyrics around to suit her!
SWR- you like it bug-style, eh?
The threadbot has become literate.
You should. I'm sick to death of white Christian Americans. I wish I could develope a germ that would just wipe them off the planet.
SWR
Er, now this is just getting TOO weird!
It's not like any one place has a monopoly on ignorant, stupid individuals.
Billy B | Email | 09.10.05 - 8:25 pm | #
The first time you see a Hummer II with a confederate flag and a "911 Terrorist Hunting Permit" parked in front of a 12 bedroom McMansion you know you're in New Jersey.
(don't know if it was Kerik's house or not)
FUCK YOU.
I lost my virginity in a dank NYC apartment and just as I was about to, um, come inside a woman for the first time in my 19 years, a waterbug flew around the room and landed on my back.
SWR-Thank you for that picture of your special moment. We will now return to our regular programming.
I'm not about to hate myself for being white!
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat
I'm too hip of a whitey to hate myself. I hate the unhip honkey crackas that give me a bad name and everyone else a pain in the ass.
all the leading Dems will be there like Biden,Jomomentum, Clinton,Bayh and Zell. Being a democrat, would not make you really out of place there.
Zell and Lieberman are DINOs. And you apparently didn't get what I said, so I'll spell it out for you: I am not a Democrat, and I don't go for jingoistic rallies. So stop trying to read my mind, you fucking stupid fucker of dung beetles.
BTW, I'm white ATHEIST American.
And I didn't do a goddamn thing that I should be wiped off the face of the earth for!
I would say: Don't put Dylan in the same sentence as Sinatra and Nixon
Why not? Dylan has been known to say his favorite politician was Goldwater.
I'm planning to just not use the heat until Jan. or Feb. when I have to turn it on to keep the pipes from freezing.
I hope that's possible, Hecate. If we have a very cold winter, some people will literally go backrupt. And no help will be there for them, thanks to another brilliant plan by Bu$hCo and the GOP.
YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED TO BE WHITE. YOU KNOW YOU DIDN'T DO ANYTHING EXTRAORDINARY TO DESERVE YOUR WEALTH.
I'm too hip of a whitey to hate myself. I hate the unhip honkey crackas that give me a bad name and everyone else a pain in the ass.
Shoeless Joe Stalin
Exactly. What I call MURKANS!
OMG.
This is...
UNfuckingbelievable.
Where were the media back then?
YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED TO BE WHITE. YOU KNOW YOU DIDN'T DO ANYTHING EXTRAORDINARY TO DESERVE YOUR WEALTH.
DAVE
What fucking "wealth"?
You should.
Fuck you.
I'm sick to death of white Christian Americans. I wish I could develope a germ that would just wipe them off the planet.
Read Herbert's White Plague, I take it?
I would give my left arm to see Green Day in concert.
Okay, maybe the big toe of my left foot. Under anesthesia. I'm not a fanatic.
And dave: "Cherry Hill Park" - Billy Joe Royal?
TC, that's a great tune.
the courts: the pres has the right to jail anybody, anywhere, for the rest of his life.
dems: well, whatever.
wow, & we all read that story *last* week didnt we?
why does the nyt find it "fit to print" now?
not that im not grateful!!!!
n69n
It took them that long to verify it. They even mentioned the Worker as a source.
And I didn't do a goddamn thing that I should be wiped off the face of the earth for!
You use 1000 times more resources per minute than most people in the world simply because you're a white American.
Now hold on SWR, Thomas Merton was a white Christian American. So are the folks at the Trinity Foundation. There are quite a few white Christian Americans I number among my favorite people, and I'm a Deist/agnostic/atheist depending on what I'm drinking.
HOW MANY WHITES HERE LIVE IN A NICE HOUSE IN A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD?
Now I'm liberal to a degree,
want everybody to be free;
but I wouldn't let Barry Goldwater
move in next door and marry my daughter!
Bob Dylan, forget the year, one of the talking blues songs, IIRC .
whoa-- speaking of bugs...
I would give my left arm to see Green Day in concert.
I would glady cough up Liddy Dole's auxiliary nipple.
I would give my left arm to see Green Day in concert.
I would glady cough up Liddy Dole's auxiliary nipple.
Now hold on SWR, Thomas Merton was a white Christian American.
So what? I'm sick of them. I'm sick of their gas guzzling racist resource hogging souless ways.
I want them all dead.
(ps yes I'm sounding a bit like Incognito and that's why I'm pissing off Ntodd)
They investigate televangelists because John stossel is too busy pimping the free market.
Got to love them.
http://www.trinityfi.org/trinity...ty/
investi.html
The entire Rockefeller clan.
HOW MANY WHITES HERE LIVE IN A NICE HOUSE IN A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD?
[raises hand]
So the fuck what?
You use 1000 times more resources per minute than most people in the world simply because you're a white American.
Yawn.
You use 1000 times more resources per minute than most people in the world simply because you're a white American.
SWR
Shit happens, brother.
Having a rough time today, eh?
HOW MANY WHITES HERE LIVE IN A NICE HOUSE IN A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD?
DAVE | 09.10.05 - 8:30 pm | #
(1) Stop shouting;
(2) I have WORKED since I was 17 years old. I didn't inherit any money. No one HANDED me my home. I am paying a mortgage.
I am not wealthy. Stop generalizing, please!
SWR, have you been smoking something with Incog? We're here to love, man, not hate.
Listen shhhhh to what the Flower People say...
bigvic, I could happily sit and listen to Dave Chappelle use *that* word for hours. He turns it into artistry. Otherwise, I don't want to hear it, ever.
Had a neighbor here, old white guy, who slipped and used it in front of me. It got very icy, very fast. I was overjoyed the day he moved out. He wasn't around; I checked with one of the movers (a black guy) to make sure it was his place they were moving. He said "Yeah." I mentioned that the guy was a total racist, perhaps hoping the mover would rough up some of his shit while loading it.
The guy suddenly said, out of nowhere, "Say, that guy wasn't a faggot, was he?"
When you bang your head against the roof of your car, it's hot, and it leaves a dent.
[Off to grab a quick shower.]
Now hold on SWR, Thomas Merton was a white Christian American.
If those people on that bridge in New Orleans were all black masked nose pierced white college kids chanting "death to America" they would have gotten across.
But being black even if you fought in Vietnam probably would have kept you in New Orleans.
I'm sick of white people. Sick of them. The liberal ones. The fascist ones. Just get rid of them all.
God are you listening to me.
Read their satire mag. the only ... well. just have a look, it will make you feel better:
http://www.wittenburgdoor.com/
yes I'm sounding a bit like Incognito and that's why I'm pissing off Ntodd
Indeed. I suggest when you finish your plague, you test it on yourself first.
G'night.
It's unsettling that this disaster has brought out both the best -and- worst in the country.
And I think it's demonstrated fairly clearly that the GOP doesn't know how to respond to a crisis by helping people. If it doesn't involve destruction, they can't do it.
I'm not about to hate myself for being white!
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat - 8:23 pm
maybe 'hate' is a bit strong...
but if you can look around you at the devastation, misery, and ruin in the world which is caused by white people being "white people" without feeling a tinge of disgust,o r a bit of revulsion at your own relationship to it, you're problably not leading a sufficiently reflective life...
just sayin'
.
New Jersey needs to be flooded and wiped off the planet. It's full of racists, wingnuts, and generally idiotic callous rich people in general. It's a blight.
You're so wrong. I live in New Jersey, and I'm none of those things. The first 42 years of my life, however, I lived in Pennsylvania, which as James Carville said, is Philly in the east, Pittsburgh in the west, and Alabama in between. I'm much happier in the Garden State, birthplace of Jon Stewart and Bill Maher.
I'm sick of white people. Sick of them. The liberal ones. The fascist ones. Just get rid of them all.
God are you listening to me.
No.
Ever thought of becoming a comedian?
but if you can look around you at the devastation, misery, and ruin in the world which is caused by white people being "white people" without feeling a tinge of disgust,o r a bit of revulsion at your own relationship to it, you're problably not leading a sufficiently reflective life...
Thank you.
"My favorite politician was Arizona senator Barry Goldwater." Bob Dylan - Chronicles: Volume I Chapter 5 page 283
HOW MANY WHITES HERE LIVE IN A NICE HOUSE IN A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD?
Right next to my Russian, Chinese, Japanese, Mexican, Salvadorean, Guatemalan and African American neighbors.
If you aren't white, I understand how you feel. Even if you are white, I understand how you feel. Some white folks embarass the hell out of the rest of us, but...
The small businessman today is under seige from cocky-kid lawyers from the SEC.
You're so wrong. I live in New Jersey, and I'm none of those things. The first 42 years of my life, however, I lived in Pennsylvania, which as James Carville said, is Philly in the east, Pittsburgh in the west, and Alabama in between. I'm much happier in the Garden State, birthplace of Jon Stewart and Bill Maher.
queen crab
queen:
I was born, raised and spent the first 44 years of my life in Philadelphia.
I like it better in NJ, too!
(BRUCE comes from NJ, too!)
"The guy suddenly said, out of nowhere, "Say, that guy wasn't a faggot, was he?"
When you bang your head against the roof of your car, it's hot, and it leaves a dent.
[Off to grab a quick shower.]" --
Silleigh
Exactly. Thank you.
I am not wealthy. Stop generalizing, please!
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat
TC - Ignore that shit. You ain't got to justify nothing to nobody. Especially around here.
Shoeless Joe - Ole Anthony. I'm sure glad he does what he does.
I had posted this account by 2 paramedics fleeing New Orleans the other day.
Don't know if anybody read it but it sounds an awful lot like that NYT column Atrios posted.
just sayin'
Go fuck yourself.
I live in a nice house I bought, after comming to Dallas some 20 years ago, with a whopping 50 dollars in my pocket.No car and no place that I could call home.
I have worked my ass off to get where I am, and bushco threatens it. More everyday.
Yes, why do we have trolls come around when we have SWR do his routine and damn everyone?
Hey Nim!
It's unsettling that this disaster has brought out both the best -and- worst in the country.
Sounds like a good discription of our uniter preznitwit. Except on his part, he has only brought out the worst.
Eli--are you enjoying the scantily clad primitive babe?
SWR, have you been smoking something with Incog? We're here to love, man, not hate.
Only the trolls!
HOW MANY WHITES HERE LIVE IN A NICE HOUSE IN A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD?
Well, obviously I don't, what with the gunfire and all...
PS, a very nice black family just moved in across the street; does that mean they should be ashamed to be black, since they live in a "nice" house in a "nice" neighborhood? Or does that mean that, like me, they probably worked their asses off for it??
Pentagon Revises Nuclear Strike Plan
Strategy Includes Preemptive Use Against Banned Weapons
By Walter Pincus
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, September 11, 2005; Page A01
The Pentagon has drafted a revised doctrine for the use of nuclear weapons that envisions commanders requesting presidential approval to use them to preempt an attack by a nation or a terrorist group using weapons of mass destruction. The draft also includes the option of using nuclear arms to destroy known enemy stockpiles of nuclear, biological or chemical weapons.
The document, written by the Pentagon's Joint Chiefs staff but not yet finally approved by Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, would update rules and procedures governing use of nuclear weapons to reflect a preemption strategy first announced by the Bush White House in December 2002. The strategy was outlined in more detail at the time in classified national security directives.
At a White House briefing that year, a spokesman said the United States would "respond with overwhelming force" to the use of weapons of mass destruction against the United States, its forces or allies, and said "all options" would be available to the president.
The draft, dated March 15, would provide authoritative guidance for commanders to request presidential approval for using nuclear weapons, and represents the Pentagon's first attempt to revise procedures to reflect the Bush preemption doctrine. A previous version, completed in 1995 during the Clinton administration, contains no mention of using nuclear weapons preemptively or specifically against threats from weapons of mass destruction.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...1001053_pf.html
One of them there water bugs escaped Texas and now lives in Washington.
Fucking cockroach.
" I can't find any information on Jeb Bush having to sign over his National Guard troops during any of the Florida hurricanes.
Anyone? CG "
I wondered the same thing about governors Barbour and Riley, both repubs. Both declared states of emergency, but there's nothing in them about giving authority to the feds.
but I wouldn't let Barry Goldwater
move in next door and marry my daughter!
Continuing:
You must think I'm crazy!
I wouldn't let him do it for all the... farms in Cuba!
That was a great album. Great song. Used to know it by heart. (Yeah, yeah, off to shower now.)
Thank you.
SWR | 09.10.05 - 8:34 pm | #
Fuck you, too.
Smalfish--Monsieur and I are just hoping to keep what we have.
TC - Ignore that shit. You ain't got to justify nothing to nobody. Especially around here.
Billy B
Thanks, Billy!
The small businessman today is under seige from cocky-kid lawyers from the SEC.
Do tell us how the SEC affects the small businessman. I don't recall selling public shares of the service station I managed back in the day.
But, please, do go on with your talking points. I'm always eager to learn new things.
Even if you are white, I understand how you feel. Some white folks embarass the hell out of the rest of us, but...
Plenty of black folks embarrass black folks, yellow folks yellow folks, etc.
You get 10 people in a room, and it's a given that 2 or 3 will be jerks.
wow, thom hartman gets his own aar show starting tomorrow!!!!
Ever thought of becoming a comedian?
pie, if you are a pie, you must be a lemon pie.
I like to bring Goldwater and Ike back for an hour or two
And sic them on Chimpy.
What a sweet beating they would lay on HIS ass.
Fuck you, too.
pie | Email | Homepage | 09.10.05 - 8:38 pm | #
The only comfort I take in watching "Pie" is knowing that when the Democratic Party comes out firmly against gay rights and abortion in 2008 to get Hillary in office, she'll swallow her pride and go along without question.
And don't tell me you wouldn't.
YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED TO BE WHITE. YOU KNOW YOU DIDN'T DO ANYTHING EXTRAORDINARY TO DESERVE YOUR WEALTH.
DAVE
Vegas and the occupational hazards of a career in the music industry. No one laughs at me when I play the blues.
I'm sick of white people. Sick of them. The liberal ones. The fascist ones. Just get rid of them all.
God are you listening to me.
Are you putting a new spin on one of Bill Cosby's old routines?
TOO many self-haters among the Repukes.
I ain't becoming one.
A self-hater OR a Repuke.
I like to bring Goldwater and Ike back for an hour or two
You mean Goldwater, that idiot who came out firmly against the voting rights act and civil rights?
That one?
wow, thom hartman gets his own aar show starting tomorrow!!!!
'bout fuckin' time.
IF YOU DON'T OWN YOUR OWN NICE HOME, OR HAVE A GOOD JOB, YOUR A FAILURE. YOUR LIFE ISN'T WORTHY OF MORAL CONSIDERATION. A MAN CAN'T BE A GOOD MAN UNLESS HE'S AT LEAST UPPER MIDDLE CLASS.
"she'll swallow her pride and go along without question. "
I thnik that would be called being a politician.
but if you can look around you at the devastation, misery, and ruin in the world which is caused by white people being "white people" without feeling a tinge of disgust,o r a bit of revulsion at your own relationship to it, you're problably not leading a sufficiently reflective life...
Thank you.
WGG and SWR are both smoking crack. Thanks for reducing every individual to a mere cog in a racial machine. Jesus fucking christ. Nobody has refused to acknowledge what "white people" have done--there's just no reason to hate oneself because of what OTHER people have done.
And ss somebody with Cherokee blood, I'd like all of you fuckers off my land. Now.
Okay, this time I'm really leaving. I can't stand talk like this.
but if you can look around you at the devastation, misery, and ruin in the world which is caused by white people being "white people" without feeling a tinge of disgust,o r a bit of revulsion at your own relationship to it, you're problably not leading a sufficiently reflective life...
Thank you.
WGG and SWR are both smoking crack. Thanks for reducing every individual to a mere cog in a racial machine. Jesus fucking christ. Nobody has refused to acknowledge what "white people" have done--there's just no reason to hate oneself because of what OTHER people have done.
And ss somebody with Cherokee blood, I'd like all of you fuckers off my land. Now.
Okay, this time I'm really leaving. I can't stand talk like this.
PS, a very nice black family just moved in across the street; does that mean they should be ashamed to be black, since they live in a "nice" house in a "nice" neighborhood? Or does that mean that, like me, they probably worked their asses off for it??
ThinlyVeiled
Exactly. I'm plenty ashamed about how this county has oppressed minorities and women, and I have always fought my ass off for progress. I refuse to be ashamed of being white.
The only comfort I take in watching "Pie" is knowing that when the Democratic Party comes out firmly against gay rights and abortion in 2008 to get Hillary in office, she'll swallow her pride and go along without question.
And don't tell me you wouldn't.
SWR
Dude, what is your problem?
Seems like you came in here to spread gloom and doom tonight.
wow, thom hartman gets his own aar show starting tomorrow!!!!
What time?
"Your stupidity is terminal, and now you're cured. Try to get some sleep, everybody."
If we have a very cold winter, some people will literally go backrupt.
Yes, they will.
I know people thought I was crazy last winter when I began begging everyone to not use their credit cards, to pay off their bills, to get some money in savings. I know that's not possible for many who are out of work, but, this winter, those new clothers and DVDs are going to look lots less attractive, esp. at 18% interest than they did when you picked them up. Target is not going to say, well, ok, don't pay your credit card bill this month because natural gas costs twice what it used to cost. How warm can you stay without running the heat? Can you bundle up in extra clothes and hop under the covers as soon as you get home from work?
SWR ,
let me see if I can find the quotes from barry about the religious right in this country. You guys have a lot in common.
wow, thom hartman gets his own aar show starting tomorrow!!!!
n69n
What time?
And don't tell me you wouldn't.
SWR
Ah, the hypotheticals.
Love the hypotheticals.
The only comfort I take in watching "Pie" is knowing that when the Democratic Party comes out firmly against gay rights
You're pathetic.
NTodd--you got rid of direcTV, didn't you?
So SWR has finally turned into Incog?
SWR,,
enjoy
http://liberalslikechrist.org/ab.../
goldwater.html
So... I'm a white person, happily atheistic, a descendent of members of the Die Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei(can't choose your grand'rents or 'rents, can ya?), a social scientist-turned IT maven who, fully cognizant of all the crimes against humanity perpetrated by those of my ethnicity, live everyday with that knowledge and strive to live and speak out in ways that break this vicious, dehumanizing cycle of racist,unsustainable, imperialistic crypto-fascism.
Can't wait until 9/24. See y'all on the Mall.
If I wanted to "oppress minorities and women", I would be a Republican.
Why should I be ashamed of something I never did?
for reducing every individual to a mere cog in a racial machine. Jesus fucking christ. Nobody has refused to acknowledge what "white people" have done--there's just no reason to hate oneself because of what OTHER people have done.
No. But be aware of the fact that you're gobbling up the world's resources. Be aware of the fact that either you or I would have gotten out of New Orleans. Be aware that we support the Democratic Party that support the wall in Israel. Be aware of all of it.
IF YOU DON'T OWN YOUR OWN NICE HOME, OR HAVE A GOOD JOB, YOUR A FAILURE. YOUR LIFE ISN'T WORTHY OF MORAL CONSIDERATION. A MAN CAN'T BE A GOOD MAN UNLESS HE'S AT LEAST UPPER MIDDLE CLASS.
That's why no one listened to Jesus.
Fucking slacker...
Who said:
"I don't have any respect for the Religious Right."
"Every good Christian should line up and kick Jerry Falwell's ass."
"A woman has a right to an abortion."
"The religious factions will go on imposing their will on others,"
LOL
Eli
I think they have a union. SWR is covering for the nights Incog is off.
SWR,,
enjoy
http://liberalslikechrist.org/ab.../ goldwater.html
Shoeless Joe Stalin | 09.10.05 - 8:43 pm | #
When it counted, he came out against Civil Rights and for segregation.
pie,
I think of you as a sweetie pie!
Peace!
Hecate--listening to what's happening to heating oil prices makes me very glad to be living in the mild climes of SoCal.
I think they have a union. SWR is covering for the nights Incog is off.
Clearly not a very civil one...
HOW MANY WHITES HERE LIVE IN A NICE HOUSE IN A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD?
I live in a mediocre house in a mediocre neighborhood. And I'm emotionally, physically, and financially exhausted keeping it, and if we have a cold winter and my property taxes go up, I will probably have to sell and move into a studio apartment. No, I'm not black. My parents were uneducated poor children of immigrant coal miners. I started out in the dugout, my friend. Did I get a pass in this world because I'm white? Yes, I did. But as Carole Mosely Braun said, it doesn't matter how we all got here, we're all in the same boat now.
PEOPLE WHO ARE LESS THAN UPPER MIDDLE CLASS IN THIS COUNTRY SHOULD BE DEPRIVED OF THE VOTE. PROPERTY IS THE ONLY PROPER MEASURE OF A MAN.
You're pathetic.
pie | Email | Homepage | 09.10.05 - 8:42 pm | #
And you're a brain dead Stalinist drone who will toe the line when the Democratic party tosses Roe vs. Wade to save social security.
Count on it.
Be aware that we support the Democratic Party that support the wall in Israel. Be aware of all of it.
Be aware that you need help.
I refuse to be ashamed of being white.
bigvic
My Irish immigrant ancestors were treated like SHIT when they came over here.
They worked their asses off.
I'm PROUD of that!
I'm sick of white people. Sick of them. The liberal ones. The fascist ones. Just get rid of them all.
God are you listening to me.
SWR
Do I get a special dispensation for being gay? While I'm white I agree that caucasian Americans are positively awful, but qualify who the "bad" white people are.
Eli--did you catch Naked Slave Babe?
Be aware that you need help.
pie | Email | Homepage | 09.10.05 - 8:45 pm | #
Brain dead Stalinist drone.
So SWR has finally turned into Incog?
Eli
Cat does this from time to time.
He was ranting early this am.
Right S?
I think they have a union. SWR is covering for the nights Incog is off.
I heard the pension and welfare sucks though.
n69n, the AAR website says they're now syndicating his national show, but there's no info about him being on AAR itself. Sounds like more of a business deal than an on air change. Dunno.
The small businessman today is...
Avoiding Federal taxes to the tune of over 80 billion a year.
My Irish immigrant ancestors were treated like SHIT when they came over here.
They worked their asses off.
And got paid.
Different from most blacks who were brought here.
I've never seen that one.
SWR
too bad, 'cause i've spent the last 20 min. looking for it. one day i'll find it.
saw lots of other cool avedon portraits tho.
PEOPLE WHO ARE LESS THAN UPPER MIDDLE CLASS IN THIS COUNTRY SHOULD BE DEPRIVED OF THE VOTE. PROPERTY IS THE ONLY PROPER MEASURE OF A MAN.
DAVE
That's nice, dear, but it's rude to shout.
bigvic -
A big (vic) hello to you! You were a shining light at the meetup for me. What a great pleasure.
Off to plant some stuff in my garden now. Have a great night all!
*p.s. If I was black in America right now I'd be really hurt. Maybe even angry. Damn those motherfuckers (BUSHCO) for all the grevious harm they've done to this country.
Eli--did you catch Naked Slave Babe?
"Busy"? Oh yes.
Hey vic
"Sounds like a good discription of our uniter preznitwit. Except on his part, he has only brought out the worst.
bigvic | Email | 09.10.05 - 8:37 pm | # "
Yep. And Katrina finally exposed why - because the GOP doesn't give two shits about anything except using their power to enrich themselves. They have turned the concept of "public service" into a joke. Until now, they could hide behind 9/11 and pretend that blowing up brown people was serving the public good. But now, when they have to actually provide -service-...to help people, to create instead of destroy - it's an impossibility for them.
The reality of their total indifference to -service- is making them squirm now that it's been laid bare. Hard to square with the compassionate rhetoric.
Thanks, bigvic.
This is just noise.
Bush is swimming against the tide.
Clean sheets, please!
A MAN CAN'T BE A GOOD MAN UNLESS HE'S AT LEAST UPPER MIDDLE CLASS.
Yes, dear.
That's nice.
He was ranting early this am.
Nope. I was calming criticizing Bill Clinton for covering for Bush.
When it counted, he came out against Civil Rights and for segregation.
if he had another 30 years, he might have progressed further and become a progressive social democrat. Slow learner.
Evening all! Having a nice, relaxed, stress-free conversation?
Yo S -
Got your lithium handy?
You need a snort.
Listen to This American Life this week. It's all about NOLA. I didn't heat the beginning of thesecond piece but a woman, it sounds like the partner of the guy from the NYT article, tells the story brilliantly. I think the show is somewhat overrated but this week's is powerful stuff.
Why should I be ashamed of something I never did?
Terry C,
I don't think you interperted that post correctly. Read it again.
SWR:
Can you give it a rest now?????
You need a snort.
Billy B | Email | 09.10.05 - 8:47 pm | #
You sound like Charles Krauthammer.
Can you give it a rest now?????
Actually what set me off was your moronic "niggers come in all colors" tripe.
Moronic.
Evening all! Having a nice, relaxed, stress-free conversation?
Hahahahahahaha. Hair-trigger nerves, it seems.
By the way, the radical wingnut fringe absolutely love when black and white liberals bicker over racism. They positively stroke themselves. Makes you wonder if this wasn't the plan all along with BushCo's response to Katrina. But I guess that's giving BushCo too much credit. They're really not that smart, are they?
if he had another 30 years, he might have progressed further and become a progressive social democrat. Slow learner.
Shoeless Joe Stalin | 09.10.05 - 8:47 pm | #
So what. When it counted in 1964 he came out for racial segregation.
PROPERTY IS THE ONLY PROPER MEASURE OF A MAN.
DAVE
Move to CA immediately, or any hurricane prone coastal city. For the benefit of us all.
So SWR and Incog shares bodies?
So SWR and Incog shares bodies?
pie | Email | Homepage | 09.10.05 - 8:49 pm | #
Brain dead Stalinist drone.
Hmmm...
"Wealthy industrialist William Cole (Bruce Campbell, who also wrote and directed) awakens to realize part of his brain is that of a Bulgarian cab driver. Resurrected by mad scientist Stacy Keach (TV's Mike Hammer), the brain-mates have something else in common: The woman who killed them."
It's always nice when brain-mates have something in common to break the ice like that.
Nope. I was calming criticizing Bill Clinton for covering for Bush.
SWR
Yep, I seem to remember as such.
Now about that lithium.
Or maybe a thorazine drip would be a better therapy.
So SWR and Incog shares bodies?
brain-mates!
tbone,
I heart TAM more than anything on public radio. Will it be repeated tomorrow?
Thersites--not exactly, but we do have Bruce Campbell blogging.
I could be persuaded to prepare bacon, assuming I don't need to deep fry it.
I could be persuaded to prepare bacon, assuming I don't need to deep fry it.
Can it be fashioned into a cake or pie?
I could be persuaded to prepare bacon, assuming I don't need to deep fry it.
bacon... with some bacon on the side? Kuhl.
Is "that" DAVE a parody troll or a serious troll. Or has he just not had a chance to paddle around in a jon boat surveying what was his life, now underwater?
The Man With Two Brains and the movie Steve Martin did with Lily Tomlin... All of me?
Billy B--the anticonvulsants are considered first line therapy in bipolar disorder these years.
I'm sorry, I meant "cake or brain-dead Stalinist drone"...
No. But be aware of the fact that you're gobbling up the world's resources.
I have some help. And I'm doing my best to not gobble them up.
Be aware of the fact that either you or I would have gotten out of New Orleans.
Of course I would've. So the fuck what?
Be aware that we support the Democratic Party that support the wall in Israel.
I do not support the Democratic Party any more than I support the GOP, the Greens, the Progs, or the Libs. And I do not support the wall.
Now put the broad brush away, get off the soapbox, and stop lecturing me and everybody else, you sanctimonious shithead.
And I'm really leaving this time. I swear. I was getting ready to shutdown the PC and foolishly decided to hit 'refresh'. Won't be able to go to sleep for a while given how irked I am at the moment...
You sound like Charles Krauthammer.
SWR
And you are an angry, judgemental motherfucker.
XXX
SWR, rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Or keep drinking.
I'm white-- but I'm not a fanatic about it.
Eli--I have chocolate cake that just came from the oven a short time ago.
The bacon is to be part of a salad. But i can prepare extra.
And you are an angry, judgemental motherfucker.
Because I questioned Clinton's covering for Bush?
Vic, you can get it from audio.com or TAM website.
.
No. But be aware of the fact that you're gobbling up the world's resources.
I have some help. And I'm doing my best to not gobble them up.
I stick my finger down my throat and puke them back up after gobbling them.
I'm not ashamed of being white. I'm ashamed of my country for being racist from its start to its finish.
The conversations get pretty funky on weekend nights around here ^_^
My Irish immigrant ancestors were treated like SHIT when they came over here.
by the white people whom they strove mightily to emulate, even unto appropriating--when they became 'white folks', reproducing-- the manner to which they were subjected as little as a generation previous...
Can't wait until 9/24. See you on the mall.
Most intelligent thing anyone's said for the past hour or so.
SWR, rage, rage against the dying of the light.
I'd rather rejoice, rejoice for the dying of the right. In my lifetime.
giant bipedal termites are cool
No. But be aware of the fact that you're gobbling up the world's resources
So you don't live in Murka?
Keep bitchin'.
The Man With Two Brains and the movie Steve Martin did with Lily Tomlin... All of me?
Sci-fi original movie, "The Man with the Screaming Brain." World premiere in 10 minutes.
Alien fight scene climax!
My Irish immigrant ancestors were treated like SHIT when they came over here
They got paid for their labor and they never had to deal with Jim Crow.
Gravatar n69n, the AAR website says they're now syndicating his national show, but there's no info about him being on AAR itself. Sounds like more of a business deal than an on air change. Dunno.
TheOtherWashington | Email | 09.10.05 - 8:46 pm | #
they just played an ad for his show during the laura flanders show here on wlib in nyc.
giant bipedal termites are cool
Except when they're running your government...
Keep bitchin'.
pie | Email | Homepage | 09.10.05 - 8:54 pm | #
I picture "Pie" as sounding a bit like the teacher in Charley Brown.
Brain dead Stalinist drone.
Maybe "Dave" is David Patterson?
Anyway, I wanna bitchslap Bush SO bad!
eli, if watertiger kills us both and we become brain-mates, I call dibs on the top bunk of the cerebellum.
The saddest thing about race, to me, is how artificial it all is, especially in the US. I really doubt that there is a person left in this country of pure European descent (if there ever was such a thing), much less anyone of purely African descent, especially in the south.
My daughter (adopted, black), whose birthmother has a Scottish surname, probably has as much Scots blood as I do, being an American and all. It's the "Heinz 57" thing.
I remember when my mother was in the hospital, dying from cancer, how clearly delineated the Native American part of her lineage became in her face. She used to talk about a woman in her family who adopted a mysterious "Spanish" girl. I always took that to mean some family member got pregnant by a Latino or a Native American, and the family took care of it by "adopting" the child, fairly common in the early 1900s.
Because I questioned Clinton's covering for Bush?
SWR
Well, that and just about everything else you've typed today, sweetie.
pie is a stalinist, white folks and new joiseyites should be wiped of the face of the earth, etc.
Did I miss anything?
"giant bipedal termites are cool"
For someone who has fought the battle of the termite, no, not cool at all. Nuke'em all.
eli, if watertiger kills us both and we become brain-mates, I call dibs on the top bunk of the cerebellum.
Shotgun!
They worked their asses off.
I'm PROUD of that!
Terry C,
I agree. I think I confused YOU post. Sorry, mate!
What an interesting thread -- poor St. Paul -- he's had a bad press -- & no more than a few hundred contemporary readers, I suppose
But I don't have enough faith to be an atheist
About Americans traveling, there was a wonderful story in David K. Shipler's book about the Soviet Union:
A couple of Russian women approached him & one asked if Americans had internal passports. Shocked, he replied, "Of course not!" His interogator turned triumphantly to the other woman & said, "You see, I told you Americans are not allowed to travel!"
Sittenpretty --
Sorry we had no chance to visit after registration Friday night -- I obviously planned that badly!
SallyH - what you going to frost that chocolate cake with, hmmmmmm???
My Irish immigrant ancestors were treated like SHIT when they came over here
They got paid for their labor and they never had to deal with Jim Crow.
SWR |
That's the second time you said that.
Now, you're doing a Cog - repeating the same thing over and over again!
Or has he just not had a chance to paddle around in a jon boat surveying what was his life, now underwater?
You prove my point. A LIFE UNDERWATER? IS THIS HOW YOU TALK TO POOR PEOPLE. THEY ARE POOR BECAUSE OF THE CHOICES THEY MADE. AND THEY'RE ANGRY ABOUT IT. THEY HAD THEIR CHANCE.
They got paid for their labor and they never had to deal with Jim Crow.
Oik. Shut up now, please, or go read a book.
They worked their asses off.
I'm PROUD of that!
Terry C,
I agree. I think I confused YOU post. Sorry, mate!
bigvic
Quite alright, mate!
"Won't be able to go to sleep for a while given how irked I am at the moment..." --
NTodd
Don't be irked. Do you want me to rub your feet?
Speaking of Jack & Jill, PA and NJ residents have probably heard of the Jack & Jill Ice Cream Company.
A few years back, they had to recall a batch of ice cream because it contained eggs, and the label didn't list eggs. So I wrote this:
Jack and Jill,
Their eggs did chill.
It wasn't on the label.
Sue got sick
She'd had a lick--
And now she's wearing sable.
"I am Spartacus..."
pie is a stalinist, white folks and new joiseyites should be wiped of the face of the earth, etc.
Did I miss anything?
A sense of humor? A brain? The ability to question your assumptions? The ability to distinguish between hyperbole designed to get people to question their assumptions and a literal plan to do something? The ability to see the bleeding fucking irony in the way I just called you a Stalinist and you questioned my mental health just like any good Stalinist would?
But I don't have enough faith to be an atheist
Me neither. I kind of wander around in the fog; I finally realized it was my natural state.
we live with doubt and mystery.
NTodd--how're the kids?
Oh, ye old " you prove my point" gambit.
A LIFE UNDERWATER? IS THIS HOW YOU TALK TO POOR PEOPLE. THEY ARE POOR BECAUSE OF THE CHOICES THEY MADE. AND THEY'RE ANGRY ABOUT IT. THEY HAD THEIR CHANCE.
DAVE | 09.10.05 - 8:57 pm | #
Yep - this dick is David Patterson.
Same stupid, outrageous statements!
This thread reminds me of Christmas with my family.
eli, if watertiger kills us both and we become brain-mates, I call dibs on the top bunk of the cerebellum.
Shotgun!
I'll just settle for the frontal lobotomy.
Now, when I see Prior's icon, I feel calmer and happier.
More Cons please
Dear Prior,
Don't tell me you're going to apologize for Paul of Taurus?
Are you home, yet?
I STILL owe Fr. William a thank you letter for the rowan berries. I am going to use them in our Samhein ritual.
SWR, rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Or keep drinking.
There's a difference?
They got paid for their labor and they never had to deal with Jim Crow.
Oik. Shut up now, please, or go read a book.
Thers | Email | Homepage | 09.10.05 - 8:57 pm | #
Are you really saying the Irish had to deal with anything remotely resembling the discrimination blacks have had to deal with?
Well, the gov of NC has declared a state of emergency.
And we're hearing about it.
This was going on last week. Like a traffic light that was finally installed at an intersection after several deaths, people are watching.
Cable news must be reveling.
Good night.
SWR is now talking like a troll.
Prior, I have always held Paul in very low esteem and considered him the reason for the ugly mutations of Xianity, and, certainly, held him accountable for the debasement of women.
What is there about him that was good enough to overcome the bad?
Thanks/SD
This thread reminds me of Christmas with my family.
--Central Scrutinizer
Best comment all night.
We know that our President was, by the time he stated that the response to Katrina was "unacceptable", engaged in an active effort brainstormed by Karl Rove to discredit and blame state and local officials like NO Mayor Ray Nagin and LA Governor Kathleen Blanco-- but not the ReThuglican Govs. of Mississippi and Alabama.
Duly elected Democrats from all over the country
have been treated and talked about by GOPers as though they are members of Al-Qaeda or the Taliban, and treated with icy political hatred and indifference, not as fellow citizens also working for the common good.
That needs to stop now.
No matter what outrage police and Bush's hired Blackwater mercenaries create we'll be soothed by murmerings of investigations in some far off, dreamy future. Let's just hope Bar doesn't get a hankering to go rummaging in the abandoned homes for collectibles with a helpful Blackwater escort.
The conversations get pretty funky on weekend nights around here ^_^
Nim
Word. At least you are sane and not going off on a ridiculous tangent
More like you, please.
Prior A, pray for peace!
SWR is now talking like a troll.
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat | Email | 09.10.05 - 8:59 pm | #
And you were talking like a racist with your "niggers come in all colors" remark.
Fuck you. The biggest racial catastrophe in my lifetime just went on in New Orleans and you're repeating tired old racist tripe like that.
Just fuck you.
JohnA posted over at AmericaBlog that his reporter on the ground in NO ran into Blackwater mercs - the post had a link to TruthOut saying the same. At least some of the Blackwater people are claiming to have been deputized by the governor and that they have the right to make arrests and shoot to kill.
Just read a comment on another blog saying there is a diary on KOS reporting the same.
What the hell?
poor St. Paul -- he's had a bad press
St. Paul was a Rove/Limbaugh hate machine.
Time for Bruce Campbell. Play nice kids ^_^
" No. But be aware of the fact that you're gobbling up the world's resources.
I have some help. And I'm doing my best to not gobble them up"
i'm sure we all keep our dryers set on LO.
Do you want me to rub your feet?
I'm not irked, but I LOVE foot rubs.
Just sayin'
My Irish immigrant ancestors were treated like SHIT when they came over here
They got paid for their labor and they never had to deal with Jim Crow.
SWR | 09.10.05 - 8:54 pm | #
My Scottish ancestor was sold into indentured servitude here, (slavery). for fighting the English and losing.
St. Paul was a Rove/Limbaugh hate machine.
bebe rebozo
His attitude towards women left MUCH to be desired!
Where the fuck are Jenna and NotJenna????
Couldn't America's unemployed and party-hearty princesses dish out soup or macaroni in a church kitchen or something equally divorced from actual brain work???
This thread's like watching kids play "double dutch" jump rope and I'm just waiting my turn to jump in!
I just called you a Stalinist and you questioned my mental health just like any good Stalinist would?
I didn't realize there Were any good Stalinists. Fancy that...
Love all the negative energy, though. Thanks, that's really making my nite a hoot. Christ...
Anyone else looking for some lighter conversation tonite? It can't be only me...
I just called you a Stalinist and you questioned my mental health just like any good Stalinist would?
That means nothhing to me.
You're the same out-of-control distubed person you've always been. Everyone who has something you don't have is to blame for your life.
I'm sorry for you.
My Scottish ancestor was sold into indentured servitude here, (slavery). for fighting the English and losing.
And his children were full American citizens. And I doubt anybody in your family ever got lynched for whistling at a white woman.
Central--this is why I don't spend Christmas with relatives beyond Monsieur and Mademoiselle.
anyways
I'm sorry for you.
pie | Email | Homepage | 09.10.05 - 9:03 pm | #
Bread dead Stalinst drone.
Don't be irked. Do you want me to rub your feet?
Okay. I feel better already.
NTodd--how're the kids?
Cairo's camping with Mommy. Saff is hiding in the basement from Sam, who is being hyper.
Are you really saying the Irish had to deal with anything remotely resembling the discrimination blacks have had to deal with?
Whoohoo! Let's play the Compare Historical Tragedy Game! Everybody's a loser!
The reason I have Cherokee blood is that my poor Irish ancestors, indentured servants, could only find land west of the Appalachians. They met the Cherokee and intermarried. Put that in you pipe and smoke it.
I totally swear I'm really going now. I need to read for a while, Sam's finally settling down, and I want to enjoy my foot rub...
No offense, Prior A. Sorry about the language...
Bebe,
Paul was no such thing...
The right could take Mahatma Ghandi's words and turn them into weapons of mass destruction...
Bad karma is as bad karma does...
And you were talking like a racist with your "niggers come in all colors" remark.
Excuse me, but that remark was aimed at people of all colors who conduct themselves like hoodlums.
You missed the post, apparently, where I called Bush one!
And now we're heading south to free the humans of California!
OT Just saw this
From Newsweek online:
Do you approve of President Bush's
handling of Katrina's aftermath? * 51,528 responses
Yes
12%
No
86%
I don't know
2%
NTodd--how many ponies do you need to catch up with Holden?
giant bipedal termites are cool
How about giant bipedal beetles? Here's one that must be a red-stater leading the hordes of FEMA...
http://www.comics.org/graphics/c.../
1443_4_039.jpg
"My Scottish ancestor was sold into indentured servitude here, (slavery). for fighting the English and losing." --
Shoeless Joe Stalin
My great-grandmother was a 16-yr-old indentured servant who was stolen by my 42-yr-old great-grandfather.
Old time American values.
SWR, fuck you, you simple son of a bitch.
To everyone else, I am sorry I finally got pissed at Mr. high and fucking mighty, but this fool is too much to be tolerated. This cat apparently is so god damn perfect that there has been no one come along that meets his standards. Which is cool, because it don't matter.
Oh, and SWR, I've read your shit for a year or two and I will say that you are completely devoid of any semblance of a sense of humor. You can ump up my ass, home skillet.
I'm going to get fucked up.
"HOW MANY WHITES HERE LIVE IN A NICE HOUSE IN A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD?"
Not this one. Apartment for me, and there are all colors around me. Not only that, I use public transportation by choice! (Go me.)
I also am student teaching at a high school that sits in the middle of the murder capital of Philadelphia. I'm working class. I've even literally shoveled shit in my day as a sewage treatment plant operator. I was also an editorial writer for a paper with a circulation of 6,000. Yeah I can get riteous bout that, betcher ass. I could tell you I'm a whitey that has doe his time.
To what point, as Jack Sparrow once said. I know the feeling of looking at white middle class culture and feeling bad about it, but that tends to turn off some of your best potential allies. It's the thinking of an anarchist, in many ways, in favor of nothing.
I see the damage of white privelage every working day for the past few years. Sometimes I feel bad about it. I used to feel real bad about it, in fact, but I found that to be an energy drain that I could not afford if I was going to do what I needed to do.
But that's me. Your mileage will vary, I'm sure.
Anyone else looking for some lighter conversation tonite? It can't be only me...
Ripley
Me -
I likes me some clean sheets.
Talk about books or something!
Anyone else looking for some lighter conversation tonite? It can't be only me...
I am! And Agent Orange, jump on in.
From Newsweek online:
Do you approve of President Bush's
handling of Katrina's aftermath?
Give us a link, please!
bigvic & Hecate --
Please rememberthat, thanks to our government (& some Dems with whom I confess that I am not happy) no American will ever go bankrupt again!
And his children were full American citizens. And I doubt anybody in your family ever got lynched for whistling at a white woman.
True, but I did have garbage thrown out the window onto my head while going uptown to cop in Harlem one night. Not east Harlem, it would have been a piano.
gary - you have a dryer!!?
I didn't realize there Were any good Stalinists. Fancy that...
Pie is a Democratic Party loyalist who resembles the worst aspects of Stalinism.
I guarantee you that when the Democrats toss Roe vs. Wade and gay right to try to win in 2008, and you question it, she'll shout RALPH NADER and put her fingers in her ears.
But she should talk to her friend Tena (who called me "disturbed" because I suggested that the Fema camps would be "prisonlike").
Bet she feels fucking stupid now.
I'm back.
Peas are shelled. Tomatos are roasted and milled. Peppers and chiles are roasted and peeled.
We're having lamb stew for dinner if anyone's interested.
The biggest racial catastrophe in my lifetime just went on in New Orleans
Well, there's been a history of that.
Hasn't there.
Rage on. I wish I could tell you it's going to get better.
The "N" word should be banned from all civil conversation...
Fuckin' honkies...
Atrios! Dad! Can we have a Bruce Campbell thread already?
Are you really saying the Irish had to deal with anything remotely resembling the discrimination blacks have had to deal with?
Forget who it was who came up with the term MOPE -- Most Oppressed People Ever. An Irish columnist. Anyway, MOPE contests are ahistorical and inherently divisive and unproductive.
I see the damage of white privelage every working day for the past few years. Sometimes I feel bad about it. I used to feel real bad about it, in fact, but I found that to be an energy drain that I could not afford if I was going to do what I needed to do.
But that's me. Your mileage will vary, I'm sure.
Uncle Blodge
Reminds me of the Billy Joel song, "Angry Young Man."
"I found that just surviving is a noble fight."
Sometimes you do what you gotta do.
You can't make a difference if you allow yourself to go under!
Bye bye, Billy B!
Peace.
Anyone else looking for some lighter conversation tonite? It can't be only me...
I am! And Agent Orange, jump on in.
How about some Man With The Screaming Brain liveblogging?
Fantasies Eragon and Eldest by 20-something Chris Paolini are excellent reads!
Ooooh! My brain is screaming already!
"and I want to enjoy my foot rub..." -- NTodd
Cocoa butter alright?
Hecate, would you prefer the almond oil?
Terry C--we need a Scifi Saturday Night liveblogging thread!
This cat apparently is so god damn perfect that there has been no one come along that meets his standards. Which is cool, because it don't matter.
The old "idealogical purity" scream when you question anything the Democratic Party does.
I was waiting for that one.
Sorry but Clinton fucked up by meeting with Bush. Too bad if you don't want to hear that.
"This thread reminds me of Christmas with my family.
--Central Scrutinizer"
Second the comment of the night remark!
Feh - it happens around here. I was even the one in the crossfire once. Live and learn and move on, I guess.
gary - you have a dryer!!?
aeon_flux
I have one.
Try not to use it, though!
wow, reading through the comments i wish i'd found that portrait of wallace.
he looks terminally bitter. hate will do that to you.
i say we reserve hate for gw. i've said i've hated many people in my life. in all honesty tho i've only truly ever hated one man.
jebus, even richard nixon had soul.
oh baby, he's a uniter all right.
I guarantee you that when the Democrats toss Roe vs. Wade and gay right to try to win in 2008, and you question it, she'll shout RALPH NADER and put her fingers in her ears.
Nader.
Yeah, an unmarried white guy would have saved us.
"Do you speak English?"
"No, and I wouldn't want to."
Eli--great minds think alike
This late in thre thread, I'm probably not being too original here, but;
"There was no place for them to come on our side," Mr. Lawson said.
Interesting when you stop to think; "their" side of the river was pretty much the whole rest of the country, from a NOLA perspective. Sort of like the space enthusiasts who declare--quite rigtly--that Earth Orbit is "halfway to anywhere".
And I'll say it again, if these troglodytes don't face charges, we are done.
Oh, and "A New Orleans police commander whom none of the four could identify...".
A Lineup will fix that in a big hurry.
he looks terminally bitter. hate will do that to you.
Yeah.
"From Newsweek online:
Do you approve of President Bush's
handling of Katrina's aftermath? * 51,528 responses
Yes
12%
No
86%
I don't know
2% --
portia
Let's talk about people who take the trouble to answer online polls with "I don't know."
Terry C--we need a Scifi Saturday Night liveblogging thread!
Sallyh |
We need something.
I wouldn't have come in here if I knew a fellow Atriot was gonna dump on me!
Yeah, an unmarried white guy would have saved us.
pie | Email | Homepage | 09.10.05 - 9:08 pm | #
If Nader dies tonight of a heart attack and the Democrats give up Roe vs. Wade to try to get Hillary elected and someone questions it, you'll accuse him of supporting Nader's ghost.
Marcia B--nothing beats peppermint and rosemary for foot rubs.
I need a moustache like the one bruce is sporting. That'll strain soup.
"Welcome to Bulgaria."
Hot damn.
We're having lamb stew for dinner if anyone's interested.
Flory-The band is on the way.
thanks to our government (& some Dems with whom I confess that I am not happy) no American will ever go bankrupt again!
Prior Aelred
It just breaks my heart how much pain Bu$hCo has heaped on the good people of this country.
It's gonna get worse. *heavy sigh*
wow, reading through the comments i wish i'd found that portrait of wallace.
Henry Wallace or George Wallace? J/K
Fun fact -- I'm conversing on a blog, and I'm ACTUALLY EATING CHEETOS!
What a world.
Ted Raimi has a freaky robot.
the robot looks like Reagan
550 posts on this rather schizophrenic thread. I have read them all, lurker that I am, and I have made a powerful and nice smelling sacrifice to Ba'al to activate the threadbot....
Goat sacrifice....
Didn't Wallace at least try to modify his views towards the end of his life?
Bush never will! The flexibility just isn't there. He's right and that's it!
Are you really saying the Irish had to deal with anything remotely resembling the discrimination blacks have had to deal with?
SWR
It wasn't as bad -- if for no other reason than if you were really determined you could always pass as a WASP.
But my dad was old enough to remember "No Irish Need Apply" signs at businesses looking for workers.
You went to seperate churches, and for the most part schools. Had seperate neighborhoods and businesses.
It was discrimination, pure and simple.
So far, the Devo android is the best actor. At least he doesn't have a moustache.
I need a robot that I can command to practice better dental hygeine. I often have to fight with the kid to get him to brush HIS teeth...
Let's talk about people who take the trouble to answer online polls with "I don't know."
Those are the people who are so apathetic and intellectually lazy, they weren't aware there was a hurricane and flood in the Gulf Coast.
Dear Prior,
What's sad is that they WILL go bankrupt, but they will not get any debt relief, just a longer time to pay the debt off. And they'll suffer all the negatives of bankruptcy. Meanwhile, corporqaations, from Enron and Mirant to all the airlines, will be able to declare bankruptcy and not pay pensions to people who worked for them for years. It sucks.
If Nader dies tonight of a heart attack and the Democrats give up Roe vs. Wade to try to get Hillary elected and someone questions it, you'll accuse him of supporting Nader's ghost.
Great Nader's Ghost!!!
Ok so what's it going to be...
Recipes
Song Lyrics
Bad Sci Fi Movies
Locations for Eschacon II
or more of the same?????
What did I leave out?
Just wonderin'
.
Nobody's paying any mind.
So I'm going to write my totally ridiculous LOST theory.(It's been rattling around my brain all day.)
The actress that plays Claire, Emilie De Raven is the same actress that played Tess in Roswell.
She played an alien that got pregnant by another alien.
So what happened was that she ran away back to her planet carrying this half alien baby (they had human DNA so that they could survive on this planet).
My theory is that the alien bad guys (there was this big war going on) wiped out her memory and planted her on this airplane with somebody elses memories but still pregnant with this half alien baby. Take it from there.
Now if that doesn't stop the fighting at least I know I gave it my best shot.
This movie sure has a lot of wild and crazy guys in it.
We're having lamb stew for dinner if anyone's interested.
Set another place. I'm hungry, and an un-fed bigvic is not pretty. Heh.
Since it's a cool night and September, I'm thinking a delicious pumpkin loaf would hit the spot.
"the Democrats give up Roe vs. Wade to try to get Hillary elected"
How many TIMES is he going to POST this?
It was discrimination, pure and simple.
flory, Business Manager | Email | 09.10.05 - 9:11 pm | #
Disrimination and Jim Crow, two entirely different things.
I come from a lower status white ethnic group than you do and even I wouldn't be presumptous enough to compare anything my grandparents had to go through with Jim Crow.
And either of us would have got across that bridge.
Flory--I've got dinner prepped, but can I have a taste?
I need a robot that I can command to practice better dental hygeine. I often have to fight with the kid to get him to brush HIS teeth...
Maybe your next kid will be a robot?
SWR, I don't give a fuck about Nader.
He's not even in the equation.
How many TIMES is he going to POST this?
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat | Email | 09.10.05 - 9:12 pm | #
As long as I think it's going to happen.
Go Cyclones! pie, that's the ONLY football game I care about. ISU is the doormat of the Big 12 most years, and I don't care. But I always want them to beat the Hawkeyes.
So does Thersites get a chocolate cake with bacon icing?
SWR is frequently a major jerk. Right now I would no more converse with him than with a troll.
Bet she feels fucking stupid now.
SWR
lighten up dude. these are short comments that can easily be misunderstood or twisted out of context.
rule no. 1: remember, it's just a blog.
Yeah, but the Irish were able to quickly leap frog over it all, something others couldn't.
If this turns into a Taxicab Confessions episode...
I feel it in my fingers
I feel it in my toes
if love is all around me
why does bush still blow?
Typical Democrats, as soon as the political winds start blowing their way, they start fighting each other. And then they destroy themselves.
"Are you really saying the Irish had to deal with anything remotely resembling the discrimination blacks have had to deal with?"
For a time, yes. Look at the old images of the Irish from about 150 years ago and it'll look familiar to anyone who has looked at African American racial images.
There's a book called "How the irish became white" by Noel Ignatiev. It's a great history of that time period.
As bad? Worse? Who am I to say, but "remotely resembling?" Yah.
Hey, at one time and in some circles Jewish people were considered natural atheletes and sexual preditors.
Let's talk about people who take the trouble to answer online polls with "I don't know."
Marcia Brady,SaneByComparison
Shouldn't they have a "FUCK No" category?
Interesting when you stop to think; "their" side of the river was pretty much the whole rest of the country, from a NOLA perspective. Sort of like the space enthusiasts who declare--quite rigtly--that Earth Orbit is "halfway to anywhere".
And I'll say it again, if these troglodytes don't face charges, we are done.
Civil rights violation of some kind...
People!
Let us focus all our anger like a laser, and with that laser-like focus, let us burn gaping holes in the seat of right-wing intellect...the collective asshole of humanity...until the pain and itch of rethug hemorrhoidal tissue is finally no more.
Holy shit! Just went outside to see what had the pine squirrel so riled up (we've had a big big bear lately, sometimes while it's still light - it's that time of year) the Islamofascists have taken over the sky and set their unholy symbol up there to mark their dominion!
Fun fact -- I'm conversing on a blog, and I'm ACTUALLY EATING CHEETOS!
Hahahahaha. I am too! I heart cheetos and have to clean out my keyboard often because the crumbs make the keys stick.
How many TIMES is he going to POST this?
Well, it doesn't matter.
Sorry I fed it.
"From capitalism flows democracy!"
BWHAHAHAHAHA -- clever, clever boy, that bruce
The mad scientist is talking about Lincoln Logs...
I too am of irish heritage but if you want to get into a who got fucked over contest - don't do it with Native or African Americans. They inhabit another plain of suffering that we irish can't compete with.
Sally, do you cook around the clock?
Antonio Holmes touchdown!
SWR, thanks for giving me a new goal. I'm still trying to make it in this world as a child of high school dropouts who were children of poor immigrants just off the boat from Eastern Europe. I figure, if I'm lucky, in about 10 years or so, I can graduate to being ashamed of being white.
Immanetize--Ba'al prefers talentless starlets or a nice pork tenderloin. Although he would probably go for some bierria.
it's that time of year) the Islamofascists have taken over the sky and set their unholy symbol up there to mark their dominion!
Hilarious.
Uncle Blodge:
I just read a book about being Irish in America and some of the newspaper cartoons were unbelievably disgusting.
They had the Irish looking like gorillas.
Hey, at one time and in some circles Jewish people were considered natural atheletes and sexual preditors.
I fucking wish...
" I need a robot that I can command to practice better dental hygeine. I often have to fight with the kid to get him to brush HIS teeth..." --
Thers
You know, if you just let them all rot out of his head, it makes your life a whole lot easier.
lavalamp--damn close.
Hey, at one time and in some circles Jewish people were considered natural atheletes and sexual preditors.
Jews, Italians, Irish, and other white ethnic groups were never discriminated against BY LAW in the United States. They were subject to class discrimination and were allowed full status as Americans when they became assimilated.
SWR, thanks for giving me a new goal. I'm still trying to make it in this world as a child of high school dropouts who were children of poor immigrants just off the boat from Eastern Europe. I figure, if I'm lucky, in about 10 years or so, I can graduate to being ashamed of being white.
queen crab
Girlfriend, I like the way you think!
Red Bull has more noxious chems than Jeff Parish, tsk tsk.
So does Thersites get a chocolate cake with bacon icing?
OK, but without the chocolate, cake or icing -- the rest is OK.
THEY ARE POOR BECAUSE OF THE CHOICES THEY MADE
Dave, Dave, Dave...you need to be slapped around continuosly by karma for that utterance...
Good luck man, if I knew you personally, I'd run for the hills. The clouds are forming over your hateful head, right now.
Hecate, would you prefer the almond oil?
I'l actually take my footrubs anyway I can get them. I give a very mean footrub, too.
There was a great story in the WaPo about some beauticians who went the the DC Armory and gave the evacuees from NO pedicures. I've had pedicures that seemed to save my life and give me the courage to keep on going. Literally.
But I'm a Pisces. You know what they say about Pisces and our feet.
oooh luv at first smackdown
Uh-oh... Gypsy Town!
Anything can happen in Gypsy Town!
Even subtitled Midnight Cowboy references!
Immanetize the eschaton of rethug rule!!!
SWR, thanks for giving me a new goal. I'm still trying to make it in this world as a child of high school dropouts who were children of poor immigrants just off the boat from Eastern Europe. I figure, if I'm lucky, in about 10 years or so, I can graduate to being ashamed of being white.
queen crab | Email | 09.10.05 - 9:15 pm | #
You would have gotten across that bridge in New Orleans.
Pie is a Democratic Party loyalist who resembles the worst aspects of Stalinism.
Nah. She's definitely a Maoist. Don't get your commie pinkos confused.
Anything can happen in Gypsytown!
I know that endless vista of frustration.
St. Paul was a product of his environment -- not unlike the rest of us -- nevertheless, the things that all of us don't like him saying about women are either in the letters falsely attributed to him (no Scripture scholar believes that I & II Timothy or Titus were written by St. Paul -- nor Colossians or Ephesians, probably) OR places where he was quoting his opponents before refuting their arguements (remember, he was writing in an era with no capitals, word breaks or punctuation) -- St. Paul was the fellow who did qwrite that in Christ there is no male or female, no Jew of Gentile, no slave or free, but all are one in Christ.
Ahianne, and here I thought I was going to like you. I'm a Hawks fan by proxy. I grew up in IA and both my sisters graduated from Iowa.
Cyclones fan... snort!
Ouch, that'll teach me to drop my prized little limerick into a spazzed firefight.
Talk about a lead balloon.
Mr. Bradshaw and his partner, Lorrie Beth Slonsky, wrote an account about their experiences that has been widely circulated by e-mail and was first printed in The Socialist Worker.
That's bullshit. It was first posted online here:
http://www.emsnetwork.org/ artman...cle_18337.shtml
But moved since then.
Ditka | 09.10.05 - 7:40 pm | #
I read it first in that post. That is Karl Rove in action. Move the article to the Socialist whatever and/or just say it was published there first to try to ruin their credibility. The NYTimes suck, and I hope you guys will write a letter too or call. I plan on it. Karl Rove is evil and immoral.
it's that time of year) the Islamofascists have taken over the sky and set their unholy symbol up there to mark their dominion!
Have no fear. The crescent goes gibbous tomorrow.
.
"Great Nader's Ghost!!!"
Here we go again.
But she should talk to her friend Tena (who called me "disturbed" because I suggested that the Fema camps would be "prisonlike").
Bet she feels fucking stupid now.
Oh, I just saw this cheery little missive from our friend while scrolling down.
Actually, I am not overly convinced of my brilliance, SWR, like some are (yeah, I'm looking at you.) So I feel stupid a lot of the time.
But I can tell you one thing - you just misconstrued that exchange, which is something you do. You are always looking for a slight being done you, and consequently you find them all over the place.
I too am of irish heritage but if you want to get into a who got fucked over contest - don't do it with Native or African Americans. They inhabit another plain of suffering that we irish can't compete with.
tbone
This country was stolen from Native Americans.
That's what makes me laugh when Pat Buchanan and that asshole in Colorado - Tancredo - start raving about immigrants.
Unless their ancestors were Native Americans, they need to STFU!
no, rule #1 is don't talk about Gypsy Town
OK. Let me ask a calm, honest question.
Everybody here trashes Bush as the worst president ever, pure evil, the man who destroyed America.
And yet when Clinton stands next to him and props him up, people defend Clinton.
Honestly. How is that possible?
Yeah well, a rudimentary knowledge of Irish history *in Ireland* is as ugly as anything here.
All I can say to Cog and SWR is try not to lose your head like Vic morrow in that Twilight Zone movie segment, and imagine what it would be like to be rich, white, male and mentally handicapped in America.
starlets floating in champagne?
This is Hell...."
Elvis Costello
I've got just what Ba'al requires....
So, their cabbie is, like, some kind of Russian tracksuit ninja?
Karl Rove.
Evil never sleeps!
You would have gotten across that bridge in New Orleans.
I think the better point is those people shouldn't have been on the bridge.
Karma is related to the consumption of biomass vs. usefulness in the universe: ability to make order from chaos, ie: de-egalitarianizing the universe, that work can only be done in a state of unequality, so fuck equality! It has nothing to do with a system of being damned if you don't be "good to the underprivaleged (ha) negroes". Karma is racist. Yes, there are racist vegetarians and environmentalists, I believe it goes hand in hand.
But I can tell you one thing - you just misconstrued that exchange, which is something you do. You are always looking for a slight being done you, and consequently you find them all over the place.
You denied the possibility of prison like conditions for the refugees from New Orleans. You said I was being "alarmist".
Eli-- me thinks former KGB, you know like a much taller Putin
I'm sick to death of white Christian Americans. I wish I could develope a germ that would just wipe them off the planet.
Rapture, biatches!
If Nader dies tonight of a heart attack and the Democrats give up Roe vs. Wade to try to get Hillary elected and someone questions it,
This sentence makes no sense. Roe v Wade is supported by 70% of the country. What possible electoral strategy would have anyone dumping something that popular as a means to get elected.
Not to mention no President can 'dump' Roe v Wade. Its a judicial decision.
Tena,
SWR knows more about suffering, oppression, Nader, Kerry and the baby boomers than anyone here. I'm amazed he bothers to grace us with his presence.
Roe v Wade is supported by 70% of the country. What possible electoral strategy would have anyone dumping something that popular as a means to get elected.
Why is Hillary making nice with the pro Lifers? Why aren't the Democrats opposing Roberts? Why aren't they standing up for gay marriage?
Prior,
While I may dispute your reading of eponomy, I salute yout conclusion...
In Christ there is neither male nor female...
Jew nor Greek...
Slave nor free...
I should have said rich, white, male, straight and mentally handicapped, then I realized that might be triple or quadruple redundancy.
Fred W.
I try to acheive that goal evey day.
no, rule #1 is don't talk about Gypsy Town
let me take you to...
Gypsy Town!
What did I leave out?
Just wonderin'
.
Agent Orange
YOU FORGOT THE PUNS!!!!
And yet when Clinton stands next to him and props him up, people defend Clinton.
How is Clinton propping him up? You've seen the polls.
Don't be an ass.
"Yegar, could you please show my wife a good time? Thanks ever so much."
So, their cabbie is, like, some kind of Russian tracksuit ninja?
With a cool necklace.
"But I'm a Pisces. You know what they say about Pisces and our feet."
-- Hecate
My older daughter loves her manis and pedis, and she's a Cancer. I know Pisces rules the feet and Cancer rules the boobs, but maybe it's a water sign thing as well.
I prefer no one touch my feet, being Libra and all.
THEY ARE POOR BECAUSE OF THE CHOICES THEY MADE
If George Bush had been born into a poor black family living in New Orleans back in 1946, would he be president today?
"Jews, Italians, Irish, and other white ethnic groups were never discriminated against BY LAW in the United States."
Too true. And many of them turned against Blacks as they became part of the dominaint culture, as they could eventualy "become white."
In the US, I agree racism is at the top (bottom?) while worldwide and historically it has to contend with anti semitism.
However, I thought the question of the moment was have other groups faced powerful forces of prejudice. Yes they did. It was not backed by law, but it was there.
Set another place. I'm hungry, and an un-fed bigvic is not pretty. Heh.
bigvic
C'mon over. There's plenty.
The meat guy didn't have any small lamb roasts today.
With a cool necklace.
He has a necklace?
WATCH OUT BRUCE!
Rip: Hawkeyes fan? awww. frontrunner. 
Y'know, the Cedar Rapids paper's sport section did an article on Iowa's resurrecting Master Psych-out Artist Hayden Fry's pink-painted visitor's locker room...*so* childish...
What does Scorpio rule?
Immanetize,
May the force be with you!
How is Clinton propping him up? You've seen the polls.
If Clinton stood next to David Duke and yet David Duke continued to have the reputation of a racist dirtbag, would that excuse Clinton.
If Bush is as bad as you say he is (and he is) then what the fuck is Clinton doing on stage with him giving him respectability. It took away from the sense of New Orleans as being a real, political crisis and turned it into a "humanitarian crisis" that can be solved with a feel good narrative and an outpouring of private charity.
Fuck Bill Clinton. Just fuck him.
"I never forget a beautiful woman.
Have a nice day."
Man, Bruce is fucking SMOO-OOTH!!!
Dont forget that the Gretna sheriff was an elected Democrat. Most whites are racist whether Democrat or Republican, although probably a higher percentage for Repukes.
And either of us would have got across that bridge.
SWR
wouldn't be too sure of that. the times, they are a changing.
did i just hear they are stringing concertina wire in biloxi?
there is clearly a racial component to what happen in NO, but we are all at risk in this new realm.
And either of us would have got across that bridge.
SWR
Than why didn't the two very white paramedics?
However, I thought the question of the moment was have other groups faced powerful forces of prejudice. Yes they did. It was not backed by law, but it was there.
It was class.
"Everybody here trashes Bush as the worst president ever, pure evil, the man who destroyed America.
And yet when Clinton stands next to him and props him up, people defend Clinton.
Honestly. How is that possible?"
i'm not expecting many answers to that one.
Hecate,
I'm a Scorpio. Not even gonna ask about the implications of that.
It took away from the sense of New Orleans as being a real, political crisis
Cool gravatar, Marcia
Flory--I've got dinner prepped, but can I have a taste?
Sallyh
Always.
Tena,
SWR knows more about suffering, oppression, Nader, Kerry and the baby boomers than anyone here. I'm amazed he bothers to grace us with his presence.
NYMary
Let not forgot all his Clinton expertise.
Oops - FORGET
Fred,
I am just happy the polls (i.e. the vast majority of American brothers and sisters) are with us now.
Yeah, what charley said.
Let not forgot all his Clinton expertise.
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat | Email | 09.10.05 - 9:26 pm | #
If you can compare Bush to Hitler then can't you say that Clinton was standing on stage gladhanding Hitler?
"You are always looking for a slight being done you, and consequently you find them all over the place." --
Tena
I'm always looking out for Scientologists, and, damn if I don't see them everytime I go out for a drink.
Damned scientologists.
And his children were full American citizens. And I doubt anybody in your family ever got lynched for whistling at a white woman.
SWR
True and well-documented occurrences like that are horrifying and well-known. Movies and TV have often shown such injustices.
Meanwhile, back in 2005, I can't:
Get married in 49 states, and the one where I can has that right in jeopardy.
Inherit property from a partner automatically.
Adopt children in many states.
Have sex in many states without being a felon.
Have the right to bring a foreign partner to join me here.
Can get kicked out of housing or fired from a job in many locales.
Shall I go on?
Terry C,
We rule the, er, choo-cha.
Honestly. How is that possible?
Seriously, why are you, SWR or whoever you are, on such a kick to incite arguments tonite? If you're pissed off about something in Your life, either tell us what it is and grab some sympathy, empathy and advice or keep it to yourself. Taking pot-shots at people is pretty sad.
If you're just looking for an argument - why?
Dear Prior,
I love you. You know I love you. But Paul of Tarus can bite me. He can bite me with or without capitals and punctuation. He can bite me with or without attribution to him or to someone else and he can bite me even as a product of his time. But other than that, I'm sure he was a very nice guy to have a beer with.
I went shopping today and bought a lot of lovely incense, blessed thistle, and deadly nightshade. And had high tea with some friends. Now, Miss Thing is demanding to be fed.
What does Scorpio rule?
Scorpio rules the pelvic region, IIRC. Or just go by the shorter version: Scorpio rules.
Besides the US what other white/European country had to fight a civil war that killed 600,000 people to end black slavery.
Will Rogers:
"I'm not a member of any organized party. I'm a Democrat!"
Damn, people! Enough with the ritual airing of grievances! We need to shove the red hot poker of our wrath up the ass of GOP power until it singes their fucking tonsils!
Don't make me come up there!
SWR, I'm as white as a lily physically, but am still a 2nd class citizen thanks to hatred.
We're on your side, we can't help being white. I can't help being gay. Be strong.
If you can compare Bush to Hitler then can't you say that Clinton was standing on stage gladhanding Hitler?
SWR | 09.10.05 - 9:27 pm | #
Clinton was the best Republican preznit we've had since Eisenhower.
Pitchforks and Torches,
Touche, brother.
Karl Rove.
Evil never sleeps!
the Mayberry Machiavellis.
Evil is as evil does.
If you're just looking for an argument - why?
It's getting louder as I'm not getting an answer.
I just asked an honest question. How can you not condemn Clinton for standing with Bush when we all agree on how bad Bush is?
If you think that's trying to start an argument for an arguments sake, then so what. I really don't care. I want an answer.
If George Bush had been born into a poor black family living in New Orleans back in 1946, would he be president today?
Oooh, good thought experiment for the children...
Oh Marcia - this Libra loves foot massages and pedicures.
Oh my yes.
Ah, c'mon. Aerican capitalists don't believe in mass transportation!
Oh, and I forgot to mention Matthew Sheppard. Lynched for propositioning two rednecks.
THEY ARE POOR BECAUSE OF THE CHOICES THEY MADE
Fuck the asshole who typed the words with a Cutco serrated
We're on your side, we can't help being white. I can't help being gay. Be strong.
Pitchforks and Torches | Email | 09.10.05 - 9:28 pm | #
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No. You can't. But the Democrats aren't preventing white people from getting married. They are refusing to support gay marriage because they're cowards.
Ripley - Cyclones alumna actually. Oh, and my mother is at the University of Iowa now. Sorta. She left her body to the medical school.
SWR-
I agree with you about Clinton. He is drawn to power... or something.... Why is he not allying himself with a humanitarian agency rather than the Bush clan? It speaks volumes of his ethics (and Hillary's).
Ah, I see we're having a great time here tonight!! Allow me to piss off everybody before I stop lurking and go smoke a bowl.
I absolutely, positive fucking refuse to feel guilty for being white, totally fucking ridiculous. I grew up on welfare, food stamps and section 8 housing, I'm not feeling guilty about shit.
Clinton is the highest profile member of Bush's "nobody could've guessed" chorus, that's how he's trying to "prop up" Bush. He's on the same multi-national corporate team as all the rest, fuck him.
Good night! (smiles, waves, blows kisses)
"I'm not a member of any organized party. I'm a Democrat!"
"I wouldn't join any club that would have me as a member."
Attibuted to Marx (Groucho) by Woody Allen
I think the better point is those people shouldn't have been on the bridge.
pie - - 9:20 pm
a provocative assertion...
why not?
apparently they were sent there by 'competent authorities'...
I am not a Democrat. Can I still Bruce Campbell blog with y'all?
by the white people whom they strove mightily to emulate, even unto appropriating--when they became 'white folks', reproducing-- the manner to which they were subjected as little as a generation previous...
WTF?????? Is this a troll? Jeepers H. Christmas. Let's elevate the conversation. Anyone have a good joke?
I really don't care. I want an answer.
You don't want a fucking answer.
You won't accept an fucking answer.
Because it won't be the answer you want.
Now go away, little man.
Why is Hillary making nice with the pro Lifers? Why aren't the Democrats opposing Roberts? Why aren't they standing up for gay marriage?
SWR
Just how is she 'making nice with pro-lifers'?
You don't know what the Dems will do with Roberts -- there's been no debate as yet that I know of.
Gay marriage is *not* supported by 70% of the population.
What do any of these have to do with 'dumping Roe v Wade'? Straw men don't work here.
Now go away, little man.
pie | Email | Homepage | 09.10.05 - 9:32 pm | #
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Suck my dick Stalinist drone.
Sorry I am so slow tonight, but I am n o longer visiting a friend with DSL but am stuck with dailup & it is mortal slow since all the losers are online instead of being out partying (AHEM!)
Heacte --
I was playing with the technicality of "bankrupt", as you well know -- yes, I know people are going to be overwhelmed by debt -- sadly, this entire nation already is but is in denial
My cousin's son was a construction worker -- feel two stories -- landed on his back -- broken back -- no insurance, but treatment -- hospital costs of several million -- confined to a wheel chair, no bowel or bladder control (& no sex) -- not an easy transition for a physically active 31 year old male
He will always have a cloud of unpayable debt & no credit hanging over him (but he has other trials to distract him)
I'll condemn Clinton for standing with Bush --
Not for helping people in NO, but for standing with Bush.
Gore, by the way, is a real hero -- actually helping people without any PR scheme to show what a mighty leader he is. He is a leader because he is leading, not because he has a Village People prop set to hang with.
PS I saw the real Village People in '81 in NYC (Ritz?). They rock.
Bush and his he-man act suck.
Nite Blak,
Peace out.
BigV,
A nun, a horse, and a Republican walk into a bar...
Why is Hillary making nice with the pro Lifers? Why aren't the Democrats opposing Roberts? Why aren't they standing up for gay marriage?
SWR
politics... it's a contact sport
Not even gonna ask about the implications of that.
mmmph....snicker...snerk....
Just how is she 'making nice with pro-lifers'?
You don't know what the Dems will do with Roberts -- there's been no debate as yet that I know of.
Except for the way they attacked Naral or Now (or whoever put the anti-Roberts ad out).
Except for the way Kerry refused to come out in favor of gay marriage and gay baited Cheney's daughter to try to sound macho.
Come on. These people care about their jobs. Not much else.
I can see Hillary and Bill having a nice glass of elitist chardonnay with John Roberts. But not Chomsky or Zinn. IT IS EASIER to imagine Hillary and Bill with Roberts than Chomsky. Nuff said.
Suck my dick Stalinist drone.
SWR
She'd probably need a microscope to find it.
i never could understand the clinton-humping on a leftish blog.
Hey Blak No1 --
Fire one up for me, and g'nite
Come on. These people care about their jobs. Not much else.
You go to the polls with the candidates you got.
He will always have a cloud of unpayable debt & no credit hanging over him (but he has other trials to distract him)
Prior Aelred
Oy! So sad. Thanks, compassionate conservatives, you lousy fakers.
"gay baited Cheney's daughter to try to sound macho".
WTF???????????????????
WTF???????????????????
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat | Email | 09.10.05 - 9:36 pm | #
Did Kerry ever once defend gay marriage or come out and defend the anti-war movement?
Clinton was the best Republican preznit we've had since Eisenhower.
Shoeless Joe Stalin -- 9:28 pm
i got banned from DU for making that same assertion; actually, i repeated it pretty regularly, though gently...
Clinton palling around with George HW Bush makes me sick...
a much better role model for him--for us all--would be Jimmy Carter...
jus' sayin'.
.
Ah, Atrios's echo chamber, where the agreement is always unanimous.
I grew up in a nice white suburb of NYC--but the only black family in the neighborhood was one I felt inferior to.
The Calloway family. As in Cab. I was in the same grade as his daughter Cabella.
We used to sneak into the woods when they held a party, and try to identify the celebrities: was that Ella Fitzgerald? Harry Belafonte? Could that really be Duke Ellington?
Sure, it was America in the 50's and 60's. It was still segregated, and racist, and a bad, bad time to be African-American--
--but there was a certain beautiful strangeness that the only bragging rights we had for knowing somebody famous was knowing (as my relatives out it) a colored family.
Kind of screwed up the programming.
A nun, a horse, and a Republican walk into a bar...
Fred Woolsey
It's a start, buddy!
i never could understand the clinton-humping on a leftish blog.
gary in fl | 09.10.05 - 9:35 pm | #
And I don't understand the Clinton BASHING.
Come on. These people care about their jobs. Not much else.
As do you.
Bill Clinton spent a weekend this summer at Kennebunkport with GHWB and Babs. Babs really apprecriated that Bill
"ended welfare as we know it".
As do you.
pie | Email | Homepage | 09.10.05 - 9:39 pm | #
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I wouldn't stand on the same stage with George Bush to keep my job.
Oh, and--Wesley Clark, dammit!
Did Kerry ever once defend gay marriage or come out and defend the anti-war movement?
SWR
He did NOT "bash Mary Cheney to sound macho."
Where the fuck did you get THAT?
*gary in fl*
Right.
And I don't understand the Clinton BASHING.
Bush = Worst President Ever
Clinton = Guy who stands on stage with worst president either
Natural Reaction = Clinton Bashing
He did NOT "bash Mary Cheney to sound macho."
Maybe not but he certainly never came out openly in favor of gay rights.
I wouldn't stand on the same stage with George Bush to keep my job.
You wouldn't get within five miles of Bush.
darn, i thought this would be a "comeuppance" story.
Damn, people! Enough with the ritual airing of grievances! We need to shove the red hot poker of our wrath up the ass of GOP power until it singes their fucking tonsils!
Don't make me come up there!
Come up here, Freddy!
Cancer rules the boobs
hey, i'm a Cancer, how come i don't rule no boobs. which somehow reminds me of gw. sigh.
They're replaying the guy crying about his mother.
Wow.
Why so dismissive of the question? If you think Clinton standing with Bush is a way of showing 'we're all Americans in it together', why not say so?
Personally, I think SWR is closer to being right about some things (not all, but so what?) than a lot of people will credit him for being, because they don't like that he won't back down.
It is funny how desirable we think that is in a politician, and how intolerable we find it on a human level.
Yah, Clinton was a terrible president. We had eight years of unprecedented peace and prosperity. He left the Treasury with a surplus.
Just a terrible president.
I'll take 100 more just like him.
how come the msnbc talking head did not ask the gretna redneck if his parrish was completely evacuated???? if he was so worried about the levees breaking there and keeping evacuees from NO safe, surely he would have evacuated his entire parrish. complete bullshit. talking heads are pathetic.
Hecate --
I've preached against things St. Paul said more than you, I daresay -- he was just a man, after all -- so you don't like him, fine.
To refuse to learn from him is -- unfortunate, I think, but perhaps a matter of taste.
I Corinthians 13 is an amazing chapter -- you recall, "Love is patient, love is kind," etc., leading up to, "And now faith, hope and love abide, these three; and the greatest of these is love."
This was quoted by a character in a novel and the woman unfamiliar with the text said, "That's beautiful. Did he write it for the woman he loved?" And the man answered, "No, he wrote it for everyone."
because they don't like that he won't back down.
Like Bush?
Who the fuck cares if Clinton stood with Bush? The job of former preznits is to do that sort of ceremonial bullshit. Get over it. There are bigger issues to deal with.
Who the fuck cares if Clinton stood with Bush? The job of former preznits is to do that sort of ceremonial bullshit.
This isn't about Clinton.
It's about Bush.
Nice try, trolls.
I don't know what Clinton is doing - I'm not Clinton.
I suspect Clinton's trying to do a number of things by letting Poppy talk him into propping up Junior, and I'm sure that is what happens. For one thing, I think Clinton takes his role as a uniter seriously. I got that from his address when he opened his library - he spelled it out and I've brought it up a number of times. I think Clinton is worried about the country and he's trying to heal wounds. Now, I don't agree with his method, but I do agree with his sentiment.
Ok:? Can we shut the fuck up about it now?
queen crab, just agreeing with you.
Hi Tena --
You still in Colo?
Would you believe the weather was nicer (i.e., coller & dryer) in Philly than in Michigan?
Also, the friend I visited had DSL -- now I am back on dialup -- it's like being a cripple!
BigV,
A nun, a horse, and a Republican with a red hot poker up his ass walk into a bar...
Who the fuck cares if Clinton stood with Bush?
the chimp is in the midst of a fierce legitemacy crisis.
the only thing that really threatens to slow down the busheviks' agenda is this crisis of legitemacy.
clinton stands with him, gives him legitemacy, eases the crisis, facilitates the bushevik agenda...
yup, that matters to me...
sorry...
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Pie,
I know. It's funny how all fingers eventually point to the Clenis. It's getting pretty freakin old.
But it's not Ohio and we never elected Schwarzenegger as governor.
SWR
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ahnuld wasn't elected either. we had election board people watch a diebold machine being feed absentee ballots who voted for bustamante, but yet got tallied as as some unknown, third party candidate. they caught it first hand with their very own eyes.
inexplicably, that didn't cause anybody to move to contest the election, but did cause diebold to be decertified for a while.
ahnuld got the secretary of state ousted, so who knows now what will happen.
legitimacy...of course...and i did it twice, too?
wtf was i thinking?
Shit, I miss the big dog, I know he was not perfect but I liked him, shook his hand in Market Square, Pittsburgh, PA, ran down on my lunch hour... sigh
gush
PS FU perv trolls
Well, here *I* go- SWR, that is the GOP misrepresentation of Kerry mentioning the fact that Mary Cheney is gay and that her own father's boss's policies were against her. I think he was really uncomfortable doing that, but it was (and is) a point that needed to be made.
Kerry has never been comfortable with the idea of gay marriage, which is too bad. He's wrong. But I remember an article where Barney Frank said Kerry had always been fair & consistent about it, and that he personally understood why Kerry felt that way.
the chimp is in the midst of a fierce legitemacy crisis.
At 38%
Bullshit.
And you're not spelling so well.
I dont know about Clinton anymore? If I was attacked for eight years along with my entire family by the repukes as Bill was. I certainly would never appear in public again with any of them especially the lead assasins, the Bush family. Makes him look totally brain dead to me.
Well, you guys have a nice time here.
Is Nader gay, btw?
And you're not spelling so well.
pie =- 9:53 pm
i know...embarrassing...
hangover, i guess...
got fuckin' toasted at a fiesta party last night, and i still reek of whisjey
i hope every last one of you self-righteous people have to some day go through what we have gone through. you all know so well what should've been done, i'm sure it will be the most well-run disaster ever and not one single person will die or one single home be ruined.
i used to love reading this board and felt much kinship with many here. no longer.
i'm so glad that y'all have enlightened me to the fact that i'm a racist murderer because i didn't want my mother's home looted so i'd have a place to go home to raise my family. i'm so glad y'all have told me how horrible we suburban new orleanians are (while i live in the city and have since i was 16, i was raised on the westbank). i guess first thing i'll have to do after helping out my mom's neighbors & family members is to go get fitted for my white hood. do they let indians in the kkk?
because, while i'm not 100% on board with the sheriff's methods, i am 200% on board with his keeping the new orleans people, whatever color, off of the westbank where there were no busses, no shelters, and no place for them to go. and where the few who had gotten across before they barricaded the CCC had already looted and burned a mall and tried to take a boat.
damn straight he was concerned about the levees. i guess he should've let the westbank be innundated and let 100s who stayed behind there, including many of my cousins, drown so that these people could've crossed the bridge to nothing. after all, if new orleans was flooded, shouldn't every place?
i am so sick and tired of reading about these "wealthy suburbs" on the westbank. there are a very few places over there that might qualify, but the majority of the westbank is solidly working class. the homes there are not mcmansions, but the same old shotguns and slab brick tract housing that they have in new orleans.
i haven't been so pissed off at "my side" of the political spectrum since the day after kerry lost and nearly everyone tried to blame it on the gay people who got too uppity and wanted to get married.
YOU DON'T KNOW THE SITUATION! YOU DON'T KNOW THESE PEOPLE! you sit wherever the fuck you are safe and sound and pass your high holy judgement.
damn you all.
Clinton met with Bush. Dylan put on a suit.
Why should Clinton give a flying fuck what we think? There was no defense of him, because the charge was indefensible, despite its innappropriateness (jeez, that's long), being as how it was an attempt at a political coup d'etat. Clinton's not going to come on the scene as an "advisor", he's gonna be The Man. It's what prevented him from completing certain projects that he had in mind that may have improved the health of the nation. The Republicans have done rape and pillage as much as they can as often as they can, it's nothing new at all. The difference is exactly what was predicted: a corporate world domination. War is demanded by weapons technology users, as a "real-world" test of devices and techniques with the idea of downsizing the army. That's what Rumsfeld's about, the Bottom Line, plus he's a fuckin' lunatic. I do hope Clinton's trying to finess some shit, but who knows? I'm not ready to abandon him yet. But they really are a sorry bunch of losers, those democrats.
Is Nader gay, btw?
I think I'm Lebanesian
I know this is a stretch, but maybe it's just that Clinton has the compassion and the class to lend his services to Bush even though he's a colossal fuck-up. Which is the humane, decent, and non-partisan thing to do. Does Bush deserve it? In my humble opinion, certainly not. I fail to see how that's giving legitimacy to Bush's agenda, though.
i would take back everything i bitch about clinton if only he would raise the diebold issue.
but noooooo. he wont do it.
pie --
Dropped you an email at that address you probably never check -- nothing substantive -- hope UROK -- missed you at EschaCon (SWR -- not so much)
YOU DON'T KNOW THE SITUATION! YOU DON'T KNOW THESE PEOPLE!
These people? Which people? Those people? How well do you know them? How do you know them so well? Spend much time cruising the neighborhood for crack and whores?
Prior - Yes, I'm in Colorado, and yes, I'd believe that about the weather in Philly. Trying to rub it in, aren't you, Prior? *sigh*
The wind blew here all day long, hard. It's the one thing I really can't stand. It looked so beautiful outside, perfectly clear; but it just howled out there.
Wow! cool! I like this fight. Here's the thing: it isn't working. So if Clinton has again sold out and fucked up, then he goes down with them. And it's his own damn fault.
Has he ever been that politically stupid? Does he have way of redeeming himself among the Chorus?
Still, those DLC dems do suck...
The Times only just now notice this?
Prior Aelred, thanks. I'll check it.
stay at home dad, whaaaa?
good grief.
Yah, Clinton was a terrible president. We had eight years of unprecedented peace and prosperity. He left the Treasury with a surplus.
Tena
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how much of that surplus could have gone to reinforce the levees instead?
While police officers saved countless lives and provided security to medical providers, many victims have complained bitterly about the behavior of some of the police officers in New Orleans in the days following Hurricane Katrina.
Notice the framing?
i would take back everything i bitch about clinton if only he would raise the diebold issue.
but noooooo. he wont do it.
jello
I'm not being snarky, I'm asking: why do you think he's the person who should raise it?
Why is Hillary making nice with the pro Lifers? Why aren't the Democrats opposing Roberts? Why aren't they standing up for gay marriage?
SWR | 09.10.05 - 9:22 pm
I know! It's because they're WHITE! Score. But fear not. SWR will learn his place. In the dirt where he belongs.
clinton, whether i like it or not, is the
titular head of the democractic party.
that's why we are having arguments on whether he should give bush support or not. his influence is great. his potential to shape and move the debate is great. he opens his mouth and media listens.
i can't wait till we elect another democrat so clinton's relevance can be pushed aside and diminished.
i would take back everything i bitch about clinton if only he would raise the diebold issue.
but noooooo. he wont do it.
jello
I'm not being snarky, I'm asking: why do you think he's the person who should raise it?
Tena
clinton's silence is also an indication of where his TRUE insterests lie. if clinton really cared about the party, if he cared about ordinary people, he would speak out, outraged that the machinery for democracy has been hijacked by the wealthy.
Can we cut out all this bickering and negativity already?
jello - you didn't answer my question; you just tacked on another complaint.
Look, I am disappointed in some things Clinton does - I'm not a cultist. I don't think he walks on water. But I also believe that he does in fact care. He came from a poor background; that gives him a better insight about some things than certainly any of the Bushes have.
I don't know what he's doing, but since he's not president, or Jesus Christ, I'm not going to move around any more brain cells over it.
I'm not going to move around any more brain cells over it.
Tena | Email |
[must bite tongue]
#778?
Hecate: You can go back in history and kill any one person. Who would you pick?
Myself, of course! I'd make all intervening history ring like a bell.
The King has a conscience?
For any fans of the group Jet, I have up a post that may interest you.
Damn, when Incog gets to say the Rodney King line, the world has truly turned upside down.
you can't see how a poor person would develop a complex in being more interested in seeking to move within the circle of power elites rather than be a champion for the poor?
hoover came from poverty. that didn't guarantee in him a greater empathy for the poor.
people should take a second look at clinton's "i feel you pain" emoting and measure it against his actions.
hoover came from poverty
didn't the hoover family own the dam?
irked = gerk = gherkin = pickle
Dahlai Lama, Larry King
what is wrong with this picture?
like vultures, lurking over dead and bloated threads.
Sounds good to me.
Hey, how is string? Have you taken any photos of her yet?
My offer is still open to put her photos up on my photobucket site.
I thought it was all Bush's and FEMA's fault?
Now Atrios is going to have to go back and correct about 2 or 3 dozen smears over the last week.
Oh, I forgot. Atrios just moves from one ill conceived accusation to the next. Accountability and integrity are things to demand from others, not the great copy-and-paste one.
Thanks for 2004.
gary in fl | 09.10.05 - 11:23 pm | #
here you go, gary.
http://www.iowa-city.k12.ia.us/H.../
childhood.html
Cog, go home and sleep it off. Going through life drunk and stupid is pathetic.
You must pity him, sekmet, it's all he knows. He is broken, and his stringpuller can't fix him.
Thanks for 2004.
Cog |
That's nice, dear.
Hecate: You can go back in history and kill any one person. Who would you pick?
Prescott
Yah, Clinton was a terrible president. We had eight years of unprecedented peace and prosperity. He left the Treasury with a surplus.
Just a terrible president.
I'll take 100 more just like him.
Tena
AMEN!
perfect example of white guilt. assuming that when i said "these people" i meant the people on the bridge, the black people of new orleans. i meant the westbankers. they're great people. they just look out for their own in a time of crisis first. keep your own safe first. that's not a color thing, that's a human thing.
sorry my grief disturbs you pie. when you lose everything you own, i'll remember that.
"I'm coming back, yeah, I'll be coming back
But for the last time.
Darryl Pearce"
But life's greatest happiness is to know you'll be back again, to climb the ladder of karma to Enlightenment a little further, by offering the best you have to other human beings.
No such thing as the last time around. Life's a virtue contest, the ultimate source of pure joy. And it's endless...
"As Obi Wan sagely asked, "who is the more foolish? The fool, or the fool who follows him...?"
NTodd"
My Great Teacher Nichiren says, "To be praised by fools is the greatest shame."
And who, speaking of fools, were the inhumane, cruel idiots who were shooting dogs the other day in NOLA?
May they realize their shame in their own moments of death. Such is the justice of karma. Life is precious.
" who is/was responsible for the maintainance of the levee system?
The Army Corp of Engineers is responsible for maintaining all waterways that are used in interstate commerce.
That made the responsible for the levee system.
flory,"
Yeah, and who is responsible for the funding of the Army Corps of Engineers? Why, the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, of course...
So what we have heah, is the King of the Unfunded Mandate, like No Child Left Behind, George W. Bush.
Like it or not, Georgie, the buck stops with you. Did you leave yourself behind?
I didn't have time to read through all the comments, so perhaps someone has already noted this. At any rate, on National Public Radio's "This American Life," Ira Glass interviewed many people, one of whom was part of a group that tried to cross the bridge into Gretna. It's compelling.
That pig, Art Lawson, deserves to be strung up by his balls.
The Gretna Sherriff needs to go to jail. Probably for the rest of his natural life. Not only did he not do his job, he did the exact opposite, actively preventing citizens from reaching safety. For that, he deserves a violent butt-raping every night for the rest of his life.
How do you differentiate between the sound of a sniper's gun and a police officer's gun firing "warning" shots? I'm beginning to wonder about all the sniper reports.
Gannon/Rove sex orgy has been posted at politicalorgyvids.com
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