I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

GravatarDrive-by!


GravatarIs this Bringing Up Baby?


GravatarFrist.


GravatarHa!


GravatarDamn, almost made it.


Gravatarurk...


Gravatar6th?


GravatarOh, of course it's not. It's His Girl Friday.


GravatarSurely the Thread God has blessed us all!


Gravataroh, well,...7th.


Gravatar16th!!!!


GravatarI come to bury Caesar, not to praise him.

The evil that men do lives after them.


GravatarSuch pithy commentary thus far.


GravatarIs this a thread which I see before me?


GravatarThe evil that men do lives after them.

Yes. Yes it does. Fucking Reagan. And Rehnquist.


GravatarSuch pithy commentary thus far.

And me without a tinfoil pithy helmet.


GravatarTexas 25
Ohio State 22


Gravatartenth? twnety-third?
I got an annoying call from John Kerry's people today, wanting $110.
Bad timing, dumb solicitor....


Gravatarlovely night for this cat to put on his melon-helmet and fight for justice and the American way!


Gravatar"I come to praise your berry, not seize it."

Flip Wilson, a long time ago
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GravatarCooking Liberally is for sale at my homepage!

Okay, I'm done blogwhoring now.


GravatarSuch pithy commentary thus far.
It's damned near midnight, and you want pith from a tired old broad like me? Pshaw.


GravatarBTW, did it occur to anyone else that the NYT might have learned about the police turning back the people on the bridge from Atrios? I'd call it fairly likely.


GravatarThat should have said "twenty-third"....


Gravatar38% is actually a solid base of support.


GravatarTexas 25
Ohio State 22

Cardinals 4
Mets 2

gah


Gravatar36th!

Bitches!


Gravatar"Nobody expects...
...oh, bugger."


GravatarTexas 25
Ohio State 22
RealTexan


Final?
.


Gravatartenth? twnety-third?
I got an annoying call from John Kerry's people today, wanting $110.
Bad timing, dumb solicitor....
Missouri Bird


Boy, he would have gotten a four letter sonata from me!


GravatarJust in case you missed it...

Texas 25
Ohio State 22



Gravatar38% is actually a solid base of support.

Can't build and maintain a levee out of 38%.


Gravatar38% is actually a solid base of support.
jj


Hee.


GravatarIt's damned near midnight, and you want pith from a tired old broad like me?

Hearsay!

With eyes like yours. You will live forever!


GravatarIt's damned near midnight, and you want pith from a tired old broad like me?

Hearsay!

With eyes like yours. You will live forever!


GravatarOkay, Sallly,

where do I send my $12 - and I would happily pay for shipping!!


Gravatar38% is actually a solid base of support.
And pray, tell, what color is the sky in your world? Hee.


GravatarTexas 25
Ohio State 22



Virginia sucks.
They lost to Idle today.


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GravatarTHere should be a legal defense fund set up to enable the survivors of Katrina to sue the hell out of the government.


GravatarFUCK ALL YOU LIBERALS. YOU'RE DESTROYING THE NATION AND UNDERMINING THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE WITH YOUR CONSTANT CRITICISM.


GravatarHe who steals my purse, steals trash.

And Val Kilmer is actually related to Joyce.

Too strange.

Going outside to shoot up, now.


GravatarHere's the smell of the blood still: all the
perfumes of Arabia will not sweeten this little
hand. Oh, oh, oh!


GravatarThanks to Mrs. Otter for keeping us updated tonight.

I did several database searches, and shit. There are no studies available related to a half million people living in chemical laced, shit filled waters.

I think Otter has used his best judgment in this regard.


GravatarThe reports of finding V. cholerae in the water are very troubling.


Gravatar Such pithy commentary thus far.

Don't harsh my buzz, man!

Normally, you'd find the mellifluous verbiage of serious socio-political folk here, but Saturday Night is a harsh mistress. And fickle...


GravatarCan you post a link to otters blog?


Gravatar FUCK ALL YOU LIBERALS. YOU'RE DESTROYING THE NATION AND UNDERMINING THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE WITH YOUR CONSTANT CRITICISM.

Oh, dear. No, the "Chief Executive" is undermining himself (and the rest of the country, to boot) with his pitiful impersonation of a Chief Executive, his shoddy job perfomance, and his monumentally bad decisions. Thank you for playing, try again, please.


GravatarWoo Hoo, Sallyh! Just finished the PayPal business...was I first?


GravatarOtter just called. He went into the flooded area today. He did not go swimming. New post at the homepage.


GravatarDon't you think it's appropriate for Blackwater mercenaries to be patrolling the NeoCon toxic waters of New Orleans?

Both are toxic, vile, and unAmerican.


GravatarA man without property deserves NO measure of integrity.


GravatarFUCK ALL YOU LIBERALS. YOU'RE DESTROYING THE NATION AND UNDERMINING THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE WITH YOUR CONSTANT CRITICISM.
GENE


Has to be a parody.

A rude one, because he's shouting.


GravatarIf we are undermining the president with critism, he should be about 6 feet under by now.


GravatarSo he's setting new record low polling numbers, and Pat Fitzgerald hasn't even done his thing yet. This could get horrendous. Chimpy's not one to resign in disgrace, as an horable man would, having failed so completely.

There should be a "mercy rule" like in little league, where if your general approval polling numbers go below 30%, you are automatically relieved of your duties and sent to the showers.


Gravatar38
16
25

Hike!


GravatarWoo Hoo!

Couldn't keep up with the posts, they were coming in so fast and furiously.


GravatarThe WTC retained far more than 38% of its supports, and it failed rather spectacularly.

Kind of like Bush has in the past 12 days.


GravatarNow is the winter of our discontent
Made glorious summer by this sun of York;
And all the clouds that lour'd upon our house
In the deep bosom of the ocean buried.
Now are our brows bound with victorious wreaths;
Our bruisèd arms hung up for monuments;
Our stern alarums chang'd to merry meetings,
Our dreadful marches to delightful measures.
Grim-visag'd war hath smooth'd his wrinkled front;
And now,—instead of mounting barbèd steeds
To fright the souls of fearful adversaries,—
He capers nimbly in a lady's chamber
To the lascivious pleasing of a lute.
But I,—that am not shap'd for sportive tricks,
Nor made to court an amorous looking-glass;
I, that am rudely stamp'd, and want love's majesty
To strut before a wanton ambling nymph;
I, that am curtail'd of this fair proportion,
Cheated of feature by dissembling nature,
Deform'd, unfinish'd, sent before my time
Into this breathing world scarce half made up,
And that so lamely and unfashionable
That dogs bark at me as I halt by them;—
Why, I, in this weak piping time of peace,
Have no delight to pass away the time,
Unless to spy my shadow in the sun,
And descant on mine own deformity:
And therefore,—since I cannot prove a lover,
To entertain these fair well-spoken days,—
I am determinèd to prove a villain,
And hate the idle pleasures of these days....


GravatarThere aren't enough margaritas in Tijuana tonight. Even my dog won't drink with me.


GravatarA man without property deserves NO measure of integrity.


That is SICK.

You are one brainwashed individual.


Gravatarsmalfish,

http://otterside.blogspot.com/


Gravatar38% is actually a solid base of support.
jj


Apparently someone who has been drinking all night.


Gravatarbut Saturday Night is a harsh mistress. And fickle...
Ripley


And surprisingly pun free, thus far.


Gravatar Woo Hoo, Sallyh! Just finished the PayPal business...was I first?
Don't mean to be presumptuous, of course, but I believe I was, on that rare occasion, First. I purchased it immediately upon her first post regarding same on a (much) earlier thread. That order from Dearborn, was me. Please tell me I was first, Sally...


GravatarI got an annoying call from John Kerry's people today, wanting $110.
Bad timing, dumb solicitor....
Missouri Bird


That's just fuckin' rude, really. "We know you probably just gave $X to a charity for those affected by the hurricane, but we figgered that since you were feeling generous we'd hit you up too."

Probably not their intent, but it comes off pretty fucking rotten.


GravatarA man without property deserves NO measure of integrity.
dave


The same asshole from two threads ago?


GravatarAnd surprisingly pun free, thus far.
flory


You had to...right?
.


GravatarGene with a busted nucleotide

.


GravatarPlease tell me I was first, Sally...

Alas, I'm always a bridesmaid, never a bride.


Gravatar"And surprisingly pun free, thus far."

now you've done it.


GravatarFUCK ALL YOU LIBERALS. YOU'RE DESTROYING THE NATION AND UNDERMINING THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE WITH YOUR CONSTANT CRITICISM.
GENE

Who cares... by the way

Texas 25
Ohio State 22


GravatarAND UNDERMINING THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE WITH YOUR CONSTANT CRITICISM.

Umm, America doesn't have a 'Chief Executive', last I heard. Lots of overpaid CEOs but not a national CE.

And you have to admit, he's hardly a Commander in Chief. Come on... seriously! You don't think that he... OMG I just wet my pants!


GravatarIf we are undermining the president with criticism, he should be about 6 feet under by now.
smalfish


I'm gonna dance on his grave when THAT happens!


Gravatar Otter just called. He went into the flooded area today. He did not go swimming. New post at the homepage.
Mrs. Otter


Jeepers H. Christmas! Keep our man out of that toxic soup.

Peace


GravatarAnd surprisingly pun free, thus far.

Sorry, been busy reorganizing my photo galleries...


GravatarUncle Smokes--uh...

No. But you were the most adorable guy from Sioux City, SD who ordered


GravatarWhen I get home from a long days work at the office, the commercials on the golf channel often remind me to have a look at my equity account. It's a great feeling to see my wealth grow. The online access also allows me to check my portfolio from the beach house.


GravatarThanks, Central Scrutinizer.


Gravatar A man without property deserves NO measure of integrity.

So we should kill people as they graduate from high school, then? Since they don't own property, and all.

And what will you have the millions of landlords do, once no one is allowed to rent?


GravatarMean Gene.

If the CEO of a company you hold stock in is givin' himself 20M bonuses and his own private Gulfstream IV, but your dividend payout didn't increase, at the same time as he let the operations and finances fall into disrepair with tons of debt on the balance sheet...would you be pissed at this guy?

Would you worry about "undermining" him, or fixing the fuckin' company?

I know you fuckers only understand power and money, so maybe I can couch it in something you can identify with.


GravatarYou had to...right?
.
Agent Orange


Oops!

Did I type that out loud?


Gravatar
Alas, I'm always a bridesmaid, never a bride.

Alas, I am as well. Hence, my joy at the prospect of having been First.


GravatarHas to be a parody.

To be fair, the lameducking is hyper-resolute in his inability to accept the merest criticism. The regime is is chock full 'o cowards who tremble at the least unkind word.


GravatarI would like to buy a license for my pet moonbat, Eric.


GravatarNobody warned Georgie of the two dangerous women in his future that would damage his Hindenburg-sized ego: Cindy Sheehan and Katrina.

Damn these evildoing females!


GravatarThinly Veiled was, in fact, my first customer on Paypal


GravatarNight, all you moonbats


GravatarDamn you liberals, always looking for accountability and responsibility from elected officials. Gad durnit, you think you wuz Amurican or somtin!


GravatarThere should be a "mercy rule" like in little league, where if your general approval polling numbers go below 30%, you are automatically relieved of your duties and sent to the showers.
Alaskan Pete


They'd just bring in the underhanded relief.


GravatarDon't be hating on UT. It is a liberal school in a liberal town. Texas A&M (maybe the most conservative school in the World)hates our guts, so we got that going for us. Oh yea, I got 2 degrees from there. GO HORNS!


GravatarAnd what will you have the millions of landlords do, once no one is allowed to rent?

What this moran doesn't understand is that in w's America we'll ALL be renters.


GravatarNight, Uncle Blodge!


GravatarThinly Veiled--you ARE the bride!

Uncle Smokes makes a damn cute bridesmaid, I'm telling you!


GravatarThere are physicians and nurses here who are complaining about our vaccinating everybody for Hepatitis A. They keep quoting CDC studies that show that only the most heavily exposed personnel are at risk. I finally told one of them to shut up for a simple reason. No study has ever looked at the impact of filling a city of 500,000 with shit and corpses. This is an event unparalleled in the history of public health. I am tired of hearing about studies that can't begin to apply to a toxic event of this scale. Personally, I think everyone in the area should be vaccinated for Hepatitis A & B, and those with the most exposure should get the hyperimmune globulin (lay term, "gamma globulin"). My proof? None. My reason? Common damn sense.


Go Otter, go!


Gravatar Thinly Veiled was, in fact, my first customer on Paypal

Woo hoo!!! Yay, me!


GravatarNight Uncle Blodge.


GravatarWTF?

The federal disaster response plan hinges on transportation and communication, but National Guard officials in Louisiana and Mississippi had no contingency plan if they were disrupted; they had only one satellite phone for the entire Mississippi coast, because the others were in Iraq.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp...91001529_5.html


GravatarA man without property deserves NO measure of integrity.



Posted from mommy's basement, I'm sure!


GravatarRipley--have you replenished your beer supplies?

BTW, did any of you have or were children whose parents were nearly driven to consider alcoholism as a positive career move?


GravatarA man without property deserves NO measure of integrity.

This makes no sense, as integrity is an intrinsic characteristic. One has it or not - it cannot be "deserved".

For instructional purposes, other examples of intrinsic characteristics would be literacy, intelligence, and decency. Work on it.


GravatarTena was the matron of honor.


Gravatarsquid--I loves me some UT Austin. Love the colleagues there, love the city.


Gravatarofficials in Louisiana and Mississippi had no contingency plan if they were disrupted; they had only one satellite phone for the entire Mississippi coast, because the others were in Iraq.


But 9/11 CHANGED EVERYTHING!






















Did'nt it?


GravatarBTW, did any of you have or were children whose parents were nearly driven to consider alcoholism as a positive career move?

I had a parent who, in fact. CHOSE alcoholism as a career move; didn't work out so well for him....why do you ask?


Gravatar Otter just called. He went into the flooded area today. He did not go swimming. New post at the homepage.

Good Otter. I'm looking at the R.C. for training. And asking my family if they can do without me for 3 weeks. I'm pretty sure i'm good to go.


Gravatar If we are undermining the president with critism, he should be about 6 feet under by now.
smalfish


C'mon - Our Shrub of the perpetual vacation neither knows nor cares what others think of him. He has hamburgers to eat and treading to do. If Karl needs him for something, he'll surely let him know or if not, he can just sign things. Him or Karen. Naps are to be taken with beloved pillows, and when he wakes, he has things to do.


GravatarThe federal disaster response plan hinges on transportation and communication ... they had only one satellite phone for the entire Mississippi coast, because the others were in Iraq.

Makes one think of the response to the attacks on "September The Eleventh."

By the way, it *is* September the Eleventh. Why time does the military parade that's designed to catapult the propaganda begin?


Gravatar A man without property deserves NO measure of integrity
Shouldn't that be the other way around?
BTW, isn't it high time that the Democratic Congresspersons gather on the steps of the Capitol and pledge a Covenant With America? The first tenet would be that FEMA will be a Cabinet position once more and will never again be underfunded and staffed with undeserving toadies.


GravatarDid someone mention UT???

Texas 25
Ohio State 22


And yes I will now stop posting the score.


GravatarKAREN HUGHES FREE TO WORK ON HURRICANE SPIN AFTER MAKING ALL MUSLIMS FRIENDS OF U.S.

Details after the game.


GravatarTena was the matron of honor.
Sallyh, La Poissoniere


Yes -- but some of us got the preview version.....


GravatarA man without property deserves NO measure of integrity.

Sorry, Jesus, you're SOL. Go back to Nazareth, wait for Joseph to plotz, then, when you own the carpenter shop, you'll have integrity.


GravatarI would like to buy a license for my pet moonbat, Eric.

Would that be Erik Njorl?

...son of Frothgar, who leaves seeks Hangar the Elder at the home of Thorvald Nlodvisson, the son of Gudleif, half brother of Thorgier, the priest of Ljosa water, who took to wife Thurunn, the mother of Thorkel Braggart, the slayer of Cudround the powerful, who knew Howal, son of Geernon, son of Erik from Valdalesc, son of Arval Gristlebeard, son of Harken, who killed Bjortguaard in Sochnadale in Norway over Cudreed, daughter of Thorkel Long, the son of Kettle-Trout, the half son of Harviyoun Half-troll, father of Ingbare the Brave, who with Isenbert of Gottenberg the daughter of Hangbard the Fierce...

BAM!

(oof)


GravatarSally, yes - I'm back and loaded, as it were.

I'm adopted so I have no one to blame but myself, the brewers and Madison Avenue. And believe me, if I could make a career of sitting in front of the computer with a beer, I'd have no problem with it.

There's no love lost between the Man and me.


GravatarSallyh: I gather your daughter still has you up in the air?


Gravatarthey had only one satellite phone for the entire Mississippi coast, because the others were in Iraq.
they had only one satellite phone for the entire Mississippi coast, because the others were in Iraq.
they had only one satellite phone for the entire Mississippi coast, because the others were in Iraq.
they had only one satellite phone for the entire Mississippi coast, because the others were in Iraq.
they had only one satellite phone for the entire Mississippi coast, because the others were in Iraq.
they had only one satellite phone for the entire Mississippi coast, because the others were in Iraq.


Gravatar38% is actually a solid base of support.

It is, in fact, a majority of white Americans, which after Bush's behavior last week, is apparently all that matters.


GravatarOur Shrub of the perpetual vacation neither knows nor cares what others think of him.

I agree that the king doesn't know what others think of him, but I believe he cares deeply. That's why he surrounds himself with loyalists who would sooner become poor than speak ill of his eminence.

That's also why the regime keeps the king in a potemkin-country bubble.


GravatarFlory--shhh! I want Thinly Veiled to celebrate being first!


Gravatar Don't be hating on UT. It is a liberal school in a liberal town.

Well. Sort of, kind of.

As my Mummy pointed out before I left to attend, 'Darling, you can always come home.' She, as a Univ. of Tulsa alum, was absolutely right. So, I did.


Gravatardamn, forgot to turn the italics off.


Gravatarnick--she seems happy, so I've let it be for now.


GravatarOY,and then some

Missing police feared dead


JULIE CART, EDWIN CHEN AND SCOTT GOLD
SPECIAL TO THE STAR

NEW ORLEANS—Hundreds of police officers are missing and many may be dead because of Hurricane Katrina, says a top police official.

Deputy Police Superintendent Warren Riley said about 700 of the city's 1,600 police officers were told to stay home until the storm passed so that they would be available to be deployed wherever needed.

Between 400 and 500 officers remained unaccounted for yesterday and many were feared dead, although Riley said some probably walked away from the job.

He declined to speculate about how many officers might have perished: "One is too many.''

"We don't know how many officers are dead," he said. "We don't know how many officers drowned. That's a fear of ours.''

The city continued its evacuation yesterday, with officials trying to convince the thousands of residents who were refusing to leave that the city was too dangerous for them to remain. If the stragglers insist on staying, they will be forcibly evacuated, officials said.

Rescuers scoured ravaged neighbourhoods of clapboard houses, grand estates and housing projects to find corpses and persuade the city's last stubborn residents to leave.

"Some are finally saying, `I've had enough,'" said Michael Keegan of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. "They're getting dehydrated. They are running out of food."

Across a flooded city where as many as 10,000 holdouts were believed to be stubbornly staying put, police made it clear in orders barked from front porches and through closed doors that they would return.

Police Superintendent Eddie Compass said officers soon would begin entering houses and removing resisters.

"We're going to be respectful," he said. "We understand it is a dramatic experience, and we're going to handle it that way. We are very sensitive to the needs of our community.''

The orders to evacuate came as Congress swiftly approved $51.8 billion (U.S.) in relief for the devastated Gulf Coast, bringing the total so far to more than $62 billion. Federal officials now assume their share of the relief and cleanup will top $100 billion.

As a Mexican military convoy rolled across the Texas border with relief supplies, Louisiana officials were praising Canadians for their swift response.

State Senator Walter Boasso called a Vancouver search and rescue team that arrived days before the U.S. Army, "Fabulous, fabulous guys" and pointedly asked why it took "seven days to get the army in."

The front page of yesterday's Times-Picayune, the New Orleans paper now publishing from Baton Rouge, bluntly warned the diehards: "Clear out or else." Its website trumpeted: "25,000 body bags."

Police said they were 80 per cent done with their scan of the city for voluntary evacuees, after which they planned to begin carrying out Mayor Ray Nagin's order to forcibly remove remaining residents from a city filled with disease-carrying water, broken gas lines and rotting corpses. The job of carrying out the mayor's order rests largely with the 1,000 or so remaining members of New Orleans' beleaguered police force.(snip)


GravatarRecent biblical scholarship has demonstrated that Jesus was actually a member of the upper middle class.


GravatarWhat did I miss?

I've been staring at ThinlyVeiled Gravatar for the last ten minutes.

(nose print on the monitor)

.


GravatarThank you for the alert, Mrs. Otter. He will come home safe.

Someone (Sallyh?) related that your son (?--sorry, I'm kinda lushy) is attending Goucher. My Bro-in-law is a microbiology prof. there.

Anyway, enough of my small talk. My best wishes for all of you.


GravatarA troll who knows nothing of his chosen rant deserves NO measure of respect, nor another look.


GravatarThinly Veiled--my daughter gives me moments where I've contemplated it. So far, hasn't happened.

I too had alcoholic parents, so I empathize.


Gravatar'night moonbats especially those I've now met Flory, bigvic and Sallyh. And I hope to meet the rest some day.
BTW Austin for Eschacon II works for me.


GravatarI really hate this shit. Every time I try and tellt eh wingnut wife what I know, she just sighs and looks at me like I'm crazy. There is nothing she will believe now. NOTHING.

She thinks my tinfoil is too tight for anything but bashing the president.


Gravatarisn't it high time that the Democratic Congresspersons gather on the steps of the Capitol and pledge a Covenant With America?

Well, I'm not the least bit eager to see such a Gingrichian move by the Democrats.


GravatarRecent biblical scholarship has demonstrated that Jesus was actually a member of the upper middle class.
a



Riiiiiiiiiight!


Gravatar38% is probably higher than Chairman Dean's approval rating.


Gravatar Flory--shhh! I want Thinly Veiled to celebrate being first!

Quite all right; I may not have been the first to see it, but I was the first to pay for the privilege. Wait, that doesn't seem right....


GravatarJoycamp--Otter's d'otter from his first marriage is attending Goucher. He's got all d'otters and he loves it.


GravatarI've got some fresh poll results.

Do you approve of President Bush's performance as President?

Yes-38% No-62%


Would you eat President Bush's shit?

Yes-38% No-62%


GravatarI too had alcoholic parents, so I empathize.
Sallyh, La Poissoniere


My dad was.


GravatarC'mon - Our Shrub of the perpetual vacation neither knows nor cares what others think of him. He has hamburgers to eat and treading to do. If Karl needs him for something, he'll surely let him know or if not, he can just sign things

Cousin, that rat bastard seems to work overtime trying to hurt us all. It is his only success.


GravatarFlory--shhh! I want Thinly Veiled to celebrate being first!
Sallyh, La Poissoniere


Oh, all right.

I won't gloat.

*pout*


GravatarSome alcoholics are functional, others spiral towards the wrong side of the law.


GravatarRipley--you're a man who can truly say, 'O thank heaven for 7-11.'


GravatarMan I'm trying to catch up with Atrios's posts today.....he was very busy. Looks like this will take a while.


GravatarRecent biblical scholarship has demonstrated that Jesus was actually a member of the upper middle class.
a |


Well, there's a hint that maybe evolution isn't surefire.

Doesn't help ID much, either.


Gravatar38% is probably higher than Chairman Dean's approval rating.

Could be, but Dean's not king. He's not responsible for, to mention but one thing, ensuring the safety of the populace.


GravatarIf your parents were alcoholics, you must have come from the lower middle class. The higher strata of society represent the perfection of virtue.


GravatarThat's also why the regime keeps the king in a potemkin-country bubble.
monica_nyc |

That and the fact that they don't feel like listening to his temper tantrums.


Gravatar KAREN HUGHES FREE TO WORK ON HURRICANE SPIN AFTER MAKING ALL MUSLIMS FRIENDS OF U.S.

Details after the game


Reminds me of this Tom the Dancing Bug toon (in particular the next to the last panel).


GravatarOh yea, I got 2 degrees from there.

me too

(but I don't give a crap about sports of any kind)


Gravatar 38% is probably higher than Chairman Dean's approval rating.

1 - Dean isn't President - not that Bush is really a 'President' but... you know...

2 - You're still here? Man, you Fritos Fighters have staying power... Say Hi to Col. Major Commander Goldberg for us.


GravatarWhy not monica? It handed the Congress to the Republicans. The difference would be that we would keep our promises.


Gravatar"Recent biblical scholarship has demonstrated that Jesus was actually a member of the upper middle class."

True, I have seen a lot of those folks wearing simple robes and sandals, yakking on the phone while driving their Hummers.





Sorry, trophy wives. Easy mistake. .


GravatarBack in the pool, gENe.


GravatarIf your parents were alcoholics, you must have come from the lower middle class. The higher strata of society represent the perfection of virtue.
frank


Really? Like the Bush Family Evil Empire?


Gravatar38% is probably higher than Chairman Dean's approval rating.



Bwhahahahaahahahahahhhhahahahahahaha

Snort



Hahhahahahahahahahaahahahh


Damn, not thats some stretching.

Hahahahahahahahahahaa


GravatarBTW, if I have to look at that dog one more time, I'll swallow lye.


GravatarScout--skip the thread 2 down. Pretty rancorous.


GravatarKAREN HUGHES FREE TO WORK ON HURRICANE SPIN AFTER MAKING ALL MUSLIMS FRIENDS OF U.S.


Karen Hughes: what Bigfoot looks like without all that hair!


GravatarRecent biblical scholarship has demonstrated that Jesus was actually a member of the upper middle class.


"I was walking through the woods, thinking about Christ. If he was a carpenter, I wondered what he charged for bookshelves."

-- Boris (Woody Allen), Love and Death


GravatarSallyh, I've contemplated it myself, actually, still contemplating (as she sips her cheap Sangria). I guess it's true, we don't learn from our parents' mistakes. I have four brothers who are alcoholics, as well; guess it runs in the family. I think I do drink too much for someone with that family history, but, I must say, I never did until November 2000...


GravatarEkCenTrik--trophy wives are normally seen in the passenger seat, anyway.


Gravatar 'night moonbats especially those I've now met Flory, bigvic and Sallyh. And I hope to meet the rest some day.
BTW Austin for Eschacon II works for me.

Agent Orange,


Nite, dear one. You are a prince!


GravatarMake that November, 1999. See, I told you I drink too much!


GravatarThinly Veiled--I'm not a heavy drinker. But I seem to need it more in the Dark Times of the Emperor.


GravatarSallyh, so you are saying those wives are the runner ups? The honorable mention wives.


GravatarWTF?

The federal disaster response plan hinges on transportation and communication, but National Guard officials in Louisiana and Mississippi had no contingency plan if they were disrupted; they had only one satellite phone for the entire Mississippi coast, because the others were in Iraq.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp...91001529_5.html
jillian | Email | Homepage | 09.11.05 - 12:08 am | #
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I got the tar...jilly,You good for the feathers?!!!!!!!!


Gravatarfrank--are you being snarky or are you a parody troll?

For what it's worth, my da was very, very successful.


Gravatarsnip)
sittenpretty 12:16 am


hey, katy....
warm regards from the Grrrrls (Mischief caught fleas on the way home, in oklahoma...Dix is fine)

from earlier--fwiw, re: birthdays

4/20 also was my mother's birthday, and it is the birthday of my brother's wife

and hitler, too?


GravatarKaren Hughes: what Bigfoot looks like without all that hair!
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat


Well, except that he got the looks in that family.


GravatarWWJD? (What Would Jesus Drive?)


GravatarThe Invisible Woman is what I am this evening. Some days/nights, it's like that. No matter. I'm not especially interesting, and this is NOT manipulative whining. Well, maybe a little!

Just sort of wistful.

Night you guys.

Best,

SD


GravatarEkCenTrik--well, unless you've got a LOT of money by LA standards, you have to start settling for second tier.


GravatarOh, I meant to ask jillian if she's the jillian from dKos but she's probably gone already.

So, I guess this whole post is kind of pointless. Hmm.. fancy that...

I'll be over here if you need me.


GravatarThinly Veiled--my daughter is also an alcoholic. I won't go into the stories tonight.


Gravatar"I was walking through the woods, thinking about Christ. If he was a carpenter, I wondered what he charged for bookshelves."

-- Boris (Woody Allen), Love and Death
Uncle Smokes


One of my all time fave flicks!


GravatarWhen I'm ignored, I just take it that everybody agrees with my righteous comments.


GravatarNight, Sarah!


Gravatarronjazz--the 92 Tercel that's curbstoned right outside my subdivision?


GravatarNight SD.


GravatarWhy not monica? It handed the Congress to the Republicans. The difference would be that we would keep our promises.

The Republicans were and are ruthless in getting out their message; the Democrats weren't and aren't. I think the media would ridicule a Democratic Party "Covenant With America" as derivative of Gingrich's plan and as pandering to perceived religous voters. And I don't think the Democrats know how to deal with the media when it's in its usual, pro-status-quo form.

I think the rank and file among all people who oppose the regime have to push an agenda, not wait for the Democratic Party to lead.

Citizens. We will be satisfied: let us be satisfied.


GravatarI bid thee a goodly night, Sarah Deere. May flights of angels sing thee to thy rest...and don't let the bedbugs bite....


Gravatarisn't it high time that the Democratic Congresspersons gather on the steps of the Capitol and pledge a Covenant With America?

Well, I'm not the least bit eager to see such a Gingrichian move by the Democrats.
monica_nyc


Whatever it takes!


Gravatarronjazz

Here you go...
http://www.highrock.com/personal/WWJD/


GravatarRipley--did you grab me a Slurpee while you were out getting beer + cigarettes?


GravatarRecent scholarship has demonstrated that alcoholism is not really an addiction. It's simply an indulgence, as common sense long suspected.


GravatarMy Dad drank ALOT. Scotch.

Yet he was always up at 6am.

Still managed to be one of the most well read people I've ever met.
A true intellectual.
With no Degree, he did well in electronics (microwave), and managed to leave my Mom with no money worries.

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GravatarWe don't know what Jesus would drive but we know that God drove a Plymouth because it says in the bible, "God drove Adam and Eve out of the Garden of Eden in a Fury."


Gravatar When I'm ignored, I just take it that everybody agrees with my righteous comments.

I just assume it's a weird Haloscan glitch that makes all my posts invisible to everyone but me.


GravatarSD - I sympathize; I get the same thing a lot of times too.

Then I figure, why the hell should it be any different online than it is in real life?

See, I outwhined ya!


GravatarWhen I'm ignored, I'll just start poking people. You'd be surprised how quickly they'll notice you. Sometimes the police will even show up to join the hilaria.

Good times, man... good times...


GravatarThanks, RealTexan--that was great!


GravatarWhen I'm being ignored, I consider it status quo


Gravatarfrank

Yeah frank with a little f, tell that to a friend of mine who has lost a father, an uncle and a brother to it and is now watching her son deal with it as well.


GravatarSee, I outwhined ya!

I so love to be on the whining team.


Gravatar I won't go into the stories tonight.

's all right, you don't have to... Sadly, and from experience, I've found the stories to be frighteningly similar. Even repeated a few of them myself - married an alcoholic (divorced over ten years now) after swearing up and down after the alcholic father and stepfather that that would never happen to me.... Don't know what the situation is with you and your daughter, but you have all my heartfelt sympathy. It's not easy when it's someone you love.


GravatarI'm assuming frank's 'scholarship' is coming from the Family Research Institute.


GravatarSome alcoholics are functional, others spiral towards the wrong side of the law.
frank | 09.11.05 - 12:19 am


i'm a high-functioning alcoholic (though i haven't had a drink today, after a serious bender last night at fiestas)...

both my parents drank a lot...in their class/generation, everyone drank like fish...it is seriously astonishing that so many of 'em got home safely from their soirees...

dad rubbed my gums with scotch when i was teething...

hell, once the dachshunds got into some sherry...it was pretty funny...

but mostly these folks were 'genteel' drunks; i never saw women with black eyes or bruises...
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GravatarSally, if, by Slurpee, you mean cigarettes, beer and rotisserie hot dogs, then yes - yes, I did grab you a Slurpee.

Suddenly, I feel naughty... delightfully naughty!


GravatarThinly Veiled--she's been sober for 13 months. For that I'm unbelievably grateful.


GravatarI mostly only read my own posts anyways.


GravatarRipley--a red Slurpee. Red is a flavor. I want my red Slurpee.


GravatarWhen I'm ignored, I know that my fiendish plan is coming to fruition.

Soon you will all pay!


GravatarRecent scholarship has demonstrated that alcoholism is not really an addiction. It's simply an indulgence, as common sense long suspected.


CIte?

Liar.


Cite now you stupid fuck..

NOW!


GravatarHi Batsies, my digestion is too out of sorts for a Lemmondrop,but hot cocoa with vanilla ice cram and Baileys sounds good. Anybody else join me? hey woody missing your furry girls


GravatarI so love to be on the whining team

Whinge you join the team?


GravatarI mostly only read my own posts anyways.




GravatarUncle Smokes--now how could I ignore a man as lovely and charming as you?


Gravatar Joycamp--Otter's d'otter from his first marriage is attending Goucher. He's got all d'otters and he loves it.
Sallyh, La Poissoniere


Thanks, Sally. You know I got the girly thing going on here too. After attending a child's birthday party this afternoon and hearing other parents' comments, I shall henceforth call my girls Granny & Priss. No, I'm just joking. In the Daddy way.


GravatarI don't worry about being ignored, because I can dictate the content of these threads at will.


GravatarAnd what the hell is 'recent scholarship'? From this person we should take our drinking advice?

My empties are spinning in the recycling bin!


GravatarKatie!!!

Hugs!

And yes, hot cocoa with Bailey's sounds really nice! It'll be a nice counterpoint to the Red Slurpee that Ripley was supposed to bring back for me...


Gravatar When I'm ignored, I know that my fiendish plan is coming to fruition.

Soon you will all pay!


9.99!!


GravatarDear God, the government is about to adopt the policy of nuclear pre-emptive strikes to protect its "friends."

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/...r- Doctrine.html


GravatarRecent scholarship has demonstrated that alcoholism is not really an addiction. It's simply an indulgence, as common sense long suspected.
frank

Makes sense to me.
I drink alot, more than most probably, and have wondered, what does it take to get addicted?

I have just stopped for weeks at a time with no ill effects.

Maybe you have to drink more than I can imagine. I never drink in the morning, to 'cure' a hangover, eg.

I wonder tho. Are the DTs a myth?

.


GravatarJoycamp--despite the miseries she sometimes brings upon me, I do love having a daughter.


GravatarAgave--DTs are not a myth, and withdrawal from alcohol is physically among the most dangerous of withdrawals and needs medical monitoring.


Gravatarthanks, all. WWJD sure is a fun question.

Alcoholism is expensive.


Gravatarsimels says to tell you to worship harder!

What the...??? I was't going to say that!

Damn you, simels! Daaaaaaamn you!!


But now that I look at that post, it's not very simels-esque... huh...


GravatarDropping a nuke on "WMDs" is perfect for these people. No evidence that there were ever WMDs? No lame "they're in Syria" excuses needed! It'll be "we vaporized them! of course there's no evidence they ever existed!"


GravatarDear God, the government is about to adopt the policy of nuclear pre-emptive strikes to protect its "friends."

Bush is Greg Stillson.


Gravatarhey Uncle smokes


GravatarDear God, the government is about to adopt the policy of nuclear pre-emptive strikes to protect its "friends."

Bush is Greg Stillson.


GravatarCovenants

i think monica's right...

it would be seen for what it was, a derivative stunt.

also she's right about the message part and party discipline...

and what she didn't say, but she's right about too is the effect of the right-wing echo machine, like which there is absolutely NOTHING in the armory of the left...especially with the decline of organized labor's presence...


Gravatarronjazz--no shit. I compiled the figures from the various disasters encountered by the kid while using.

Then I really needed a drink.


GravatarSally: it sounds like it still wears on you though.

My dad's dad was a drunk, I guess. It never got talked about. Even when he wasn't 'lit', he was still hard on dad & his sister. (F'r what it's worth, my dad could not stand Humphrey Bogart). He died when my dad was in his early thirties, and dad told me once he was never not scared of his father.

My dad was a very controlled drinker. One beer in the evening, maybe two if it was a hard day, maybe a couple of '7 & 7s' at Christmas.

But when I was a little kid, he was, to be vague, kinda rough on me. Not my brother, not my mom. Just me. It scared her, because she could see him turning into his dad (she'd grown up down the road, his dad was sort of a legend) and she didn't know what to do about it.

And then he let go of whatever it was, like a light switched on. We got on pretty well & farmed together for 17 years. Dad wasn't a great man by any standard, but I always thought the fact that he could stop history in the middle of its repeating was a tremendous feat in it's way.

We never talked about it. I don't know what happened to make him change. The only reason I tell the story is to say sometimes things change without your pushing them, and maybe you will get your daughter back sometime soon, out of the blue.

but you know that already...


GravatarBomb Iran for New Orleans!

Because you're either with us or with the weather...


GravatarRecent scholarship has demonstrated that alcoholism is not really an addiction. It's simply an indulgence, as common sense long suspected.
frank


sites?
cites?
linkee?


Gravatarnick--all this is gonna be wearing for a time. i think one signs on for it when one decides to have kids.


GravatarI drink alot, more than most probably, and have wondered, what does it take to get addicted?


You cannot "catch acoholism.

You are born with the disease. It is carried(somehow) in your genes. THere has been much research and no conclusions. It is a disease, that much has been proven, reguardless of what the troll says.


GravatarCite? Ever read Ivan Illich? You people are so ignorant.


GravatarPost-WWII Americans drank like fishes, with party houses and hide-aways on every rural highway, at least in the northeast. The age of the martini lunch and pre-dinner cocktail.

Even watching films from that era--a drink poured in every living room scene, from Bogart, to Grant to Stewart to Milland. Just watched "Dial M for Murder". At least a dozen cocktails served.


GravatarWhen I'm ignored, I just take it that everybody agrees with my righteous comments.
Incog


Always works for me. Eschateers tend to agree with pretty much everything I say...


GravatarAlcoholism is not a fucking disease.


GravatarSallyh, La Poissoniere

I hear ya.

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GravatarWGG - The Dems need to deploy a bunch of political tent-revivalists. Real Huey Long fire-and-brimstone breathers. They don't have to be politicians or political candidates; they just have to speak with conviction and animation - on a common theme and message.


GravatarMy final encounter with Demon Rum several years ago cost me a very good BMW 2002 and about $8000.

But waking up in a cell (again!) was it. No more.

Haven't missed anything about it for a second.


Gravatar Bomb Iran for New Orleans!

Because you're either with us or with the weather...


Ain't it the truth, though? These fucktard simply cannot function unless there's an enemy.... they must be SO empty inside.


GravatarHey, "Brokeback Mountain" won the Golden Lion.

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A Pentagon planning document being updated to reflect the doctrine of pre-emption declared by President Bush in 2002 envisions the use of nuclear weapons to deter terrorists from using weapons of mass destruction against the United States or its allies. ...

... The Senate voted 53-43 to include $4 million for research into the feasibility of a bunker-buster nuclear warhead. Earlier this year, the House refused to provide the money, so a final decision will have to be worked out between the two chambers.

That is fucking insane.


GravatarSo, does anyone think Timmah will continue tearing new assholes tomorrow on Press the Meat, or will he revert back to GOP talking points?


GravatarI think the media would ridicule a Democratic Party "Covenant With America" as derivative of Gingrich's plan and as pandering to perceived religous voters.
monica, it's been my experience that the media ridicules the Democratic Party no matter what it does.
Try anything. Going over the head(s) of the Media directly to the people-ala Clinton-is the only hope we have.


Gravatar Alcoholism is not a fucking disease.

Yes, it is, twatlint. And so are you. Now go away.


Gravatarthanks, all. WWJD sure is a fun question.

Alcoholism is expensive.
ronjazz, troll resistant | Email | 09.11.05 - 12:40 am | #
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just existing in merka these days is spensive...hugs back at ya sall,and a oatmeal/pecan cookie to dunk


GravatarAlways works for me. Eschateers tend to agree with pretty much everything I say...

I was gonna say...


GravatarI so love to be on the whining team

Whinge you join the team?


I'll bitch if you'll kvetch.


GravatarYou people are so ignorant.

Flatter.

Just watched "Dial M for Murder". At least a dozen cocktails served.

Yeah. I love that movie.


Gravatarhey, frank, shut up. You don't know what you're on about.


Gravatarmonica_nyc

What does Brokeback Mountain have to do with nuclear pre-emption?


GravatarAlcoholism is not a fucking disease.
frank


I thinking this is part of the personal responsibility/ownership society repub spin.

.


GravatarY'all been mighty fine tonight, but I must attempt sleep.

Take care of your good selves, now...


[and a virtual foot massage goes to sweet Sallyh]


GravatarI'm waiting and waiting and waiting for Atrios to post this one for an open thread:

I'M NOT THREAD YET!

BECAUSE I'M NOT YET THREAD!


GravatarEvening Champs!


GravatarAtrios have mercy. I've given to PETA and I've given to the ASPCA-from the bowels of Christ, I beseech thee to erase the picture of the NOLA dog.


GravatarSo, does anyone think Timmah will continue tearing new assholes tomorrow on Press the Meat, or will he revert back to GOP talking points?

I'm thinking the talking points will make a remarkable "September the Eleventh" comeback.


GravatarCite? Ever read Ivan Illich? You people are so ignorant.


Who the fuck is that?


Have you ever read Bill W.?

Have you ever known an alcoholic?

Have you ever been to a fucking meeting?

If not, then STF.

Alcoholism is a deadly disease that affects MILLIONS. Get a grip.

Your president happens to be one of those millions.


GravatarI'M NOT THREAD YET!

BECAUSE I'M NOT YET THREAD!


Bring out your thread!

Bring out your thread!


GravatarLSU just scored a touchdown!~

LSU 35
ASU 31

Geaux Tigers!


GravatarWere we nicer people when we drank, smoked and dressed more stylishly?


Gravatar. The Senate voted 53-43 to include $4 million for research into the feasibility of a bunker-buster nuclear warhead

Cuz, see, even though it's in an impenetrable bunker, we know it's there. That's why we need a bunker buster to get it. Cuz it's so far down we can't find it.

C'mon, people, I'm the damned President and I need to bomb my numbers up a little! What? No, I said nudge. Why would I say bomb? That's crazy! Bomb... who would say that? eheh! eheh!


GravatarWhat does Brokeback Mountain have to do with nuclear pre-emption?

Nothing, that I know of. Guess I shouldn't have put the two thoughts in a single post.


GravatarSeveral studies using birds and rats have shown conclusively that neither gambling or alcoholism is a disease.


GravatarAlcoholism is not a fucking disease.
frank- 12:44 am


you're right frank

AIDS is a fucking disease; syphillis is a fucking disease...based on current evidence, it seems you may also be a fucking disease...

alcoholism, however, is a DRINKING disease...


Gravataralcohol does raise your hdl though, in moderation


Gravatar Were we nicer people when we drank, smoked and dressed more stylishly?
Maybe, maybe not. But, in any case, we sure seemed a lot nicer...


GravatarOld Kinderhook... there's THIS:

I work in the comic book field, and I would just like to direct everyone's attention to THIS auction on Ebay. Pretty cool.
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Gravatarsmalfish - I read something once that the rates of alchoholism are highest in those populations with the shortest history with alchohol. E.g., alchoholism is fairly uncommon in people of Middle Eastern and Mediterranean heritage, and very common in Native American people. The hypothesis was that somehow those populations that have had alchohol for many thousands of years have genetically adapted/selected against alcholism.

I've wondered since reading that if there is a correlation between rates of diabetes and alchoholism, given the very high rate of both in Native Americans.


Gravatarmonica

Just joking with you


GravatarWhy not just have a bunch of dems register as republican candidates and spout the party line. Then after they get elected they can switch parties. Seems to work for the republican cabal.


GravatarWere we nicer people when we drank, smoked and dressed more stylishly?

Who remembers?

But, for the record, I have never been what might be generally recognized as a stylish dresser.

So I have that going for me ...


GravatarThe first experiments on hyperbolic discounting using the necessary discrete trial design showed that some pigeons would peck a key, the only effect of which was to commit them not to peck a later key to get an immediate but inferior grain reward.


GravatarCite? Ever read Ivan Illich?

i knew ivan illich...i still want a fucking cite...your word alone dont cut it, cully...


GravatarSeveral studies using birds and rats have shown conclusively that neither gambling or alcoholism is a disease.

Neither has the test shown conclusivley that you fucking your own mother makes her cry ceaselessly


GravatarThinking that Bush is fit to be President is a mental disease.


GravatarChamps!
Sloth


That's nice, dear.
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GravatarChamps!
Sloth


That's nice, dear.
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GravatarIvan Illich wrote all those weird books. I have read one, I think. He argued that there is no such thing as a mental illness etcetera.


Gravatar"studies using birds and rats"

I dunno... always seemed like the RoadRunner was adddicted to high-risk situations. I could see him losing his house to ACME Finance at the local riverboat casino (which I guess would have to be in drydock).


GravatarBirds and rats?

WTF!


GravatarJust joking with you

Sorry. In addition to being ant-stylish, I seem to be tone deaf in some threads.

Comes and goes ...


Gravatar Several studies using birds and rats have shown conclusively that neither gambling or alcoholism is a disease.

Sweet Jeebus, somebody tell me he didn't say that a study of birds and rats proved gambling wasn't a disease.

Best. parody. troll. ever


GravatarThe Western World revolves around alcohol. Compared to what Ben Franklin recounts in his autobiography, the West drinks a hell of a lot less than it used to. Course the water supply doesn't kill us anymore. How anybody make it out of the 1700s, I'll never know.


GravatarHe argued that there is no such thing as a mental illness etcetera.
Echidne of the snakes


Was HE a scientologist, too?


GravatarHe argued that there is no such thing as a mental illness etcetera

Sumbitch obviously never met my ex-husband...


Gravataralcoholism, however, is a DRINKING disease...

You should hear what people call Me when I'm drinking...


Gravatar"I got an annoying call from John Kerry's people today, wanting $110.
Bad timing, dumb solicitor....
Missouri Bird"


heh. it worked.


GravatarGood night, folks. Enjoy the "September the Eleventh" military parade. Wave to the king, if ya see him.


GravatarIllich argued no such thing.


GravatarWas HE a scientologist, too?

I have no idea. But I remember that he argued for the segregation of the sexes based on, among other things, the fact that women cut bread with a different technique than men.


GravatarI've wondered since reading that if there is a correlation between rates of diabetes and alchoholism, given the very high rate of both in Native Americans.

I really don't know the science behind addiction. THere has never been a real conclusion as to what causes it. Science does not know enough about the brain and the nervous system to come to any conclusions.

SOmeday, maybe the world will get serious about solving that riddle. Untill then, millions and possibly billions will suffer.


GravatarI've wondered since reading that if there is a correlation between rates of diabetes and alchoholism, given the very high rate of both in Native Americans.

I really don't know the science behind addiction. THere has never been a real conclusion as to what causes it. Science does not know enough about the brain and the nervous system to come to any conclusions.

SOmeday, maybe the world will get serious about solving that riddle. Untill then, millions and possibly billions will suffer.


GravatarIs anyone else getting the impression that our troll on the night shift, frank, is a college freshman with a low GPA?


GravatarBut waking up in a cell (again!) was it. No more.

Oy. No BMW, and only a grand or so, but that's my story too.
They said it took 4 cops to get me in the squad car, and I wasn't fighting. I was just...loose.


GravatarBest. parody. troll. ever

I know Merkin Patriot. Merkin Patriot is a friend of mine. This troll is no Merkin Patriot.


GravatarWould you trust a guy with a martini...or with a Bible?


GravatarI'm glad I quit drinking a decade ago. No particular reason other than I lost a taste for alcohol. And feeling tipsey or drunk.

Also, I've never liked wine. Always gave me headaches.


GravatarI'm glad I quit drinking a decade ago. No particular reason other than I lost a taste for alcohol. And feeling tipsey or drunk.

Also, I've never liked wine. Always gave me headaches.


Gravatarsmalfish--funding into the causes of addiction--brain research, etc.--has been severely defunded in the past 5 years.


GravatarAtrios have mercy. I've given to PETA and I've given to the ASPCA-from the bowels of Christ, I beseech thee to erase the picture of the NOLA dog.
Sweet Sue | 09.11.05 - 12:49 am |
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please NO...i need it to stay angry and to shore up my RESOLVE!!!!!!!i hate the bastards for this tragedy


Gravatar Is anyone else getting the impression that our troll on the night shift, frank, is a college freshman with a low GPA?

I was thinking more like high school freshman, but if you think it's that mature...


GravatarOoh! Ooh! 6 minutes until everything is changed in Chicago!

God, I wish I had a video camera. Ok, who wants to hold hands? Looking for hands to hold here...


GravatarYou people are so ignorant.
frank


There's that projection again.


GravatarNur-al--empirical research suggests a higher probability of truthfulness from the person with the martini.


GravatarIf alcoholism is a disease it’s the only one you get yelled at for having.



Damn - really meant to take credit for that but I must admit I heard it on comedy central last night. Funny though, eh? or maybe its just late...


Gravatarparody of a scholar, maybe.


GravatarIs anyone else getting the impression that our troll on the night shift, frank, is a college freshman with a low GPA?

Me thinks he's Psychology 101 and just discovered Thomas Szasz


GravatarI recently heard someone talk about alcoholism studies on the radio. One of the arguments they presented was that the genetic basis for alcoholism may not be quite as simple as we might have thought. According to one study done in Asia, the gene or genes can turn themselves on or off depending on how much drinking is done. I can't remember the exact details, but the study was offered as one example of the idea that nurture and nature interact in ways we don't even understand yet.


GravatarThinly Veiled--having taught college freshmen, I can assure you that some of them are that seriously immature.


GravatarWould you trust a guy with a martini...or with a Bible?


Oh jeebus. Do I have to choose?

Martinis are for the elitests!


GravatarAlso, I've never liked wine. Always gave me headaches.

Why do you hate Jesus, remek? He likes to make wine. It's what he does. Why do you want to take that away from him?


GravatarI have always relied on the kindness of martoonies.
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GravatarRipley

Changes?


GravatarLSU wins!!!

And although Texas won today over the Buckeyes, I just...can't...pull for the horns. I just can't. Don't know why.


Gravatar*Urrp*

Marteenies.
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GravatarEchidne--since it is a complex disease, there would have to be a large number of genetic + environmental factors that would have to converge in order for the disease to manifest. It would be unlikely that a specific gene would be associated with alcoholism.


GravatarMister X--and your martooni was featured in Cooking Liberally.

How are Mrs., Master and Missy X?


GravatarSallyh,

I can't sleep! Damn.

But, re: your daughter.

Last night, I went to a Peoples' Bithrday Party (all but one of us has bdays in Aug/Sept) and the dtr of us of us attended. We have been her Auntie Elephants for lo, these many (she is now 40).

She now makes her own glass beads and jewelry, has an Af-American lover, and is saner than she has ever been.t was SUCH a pleasure to see her so calm, peaceful, and happy.

Your dtr will return to you. Not necessarily in the way of my friend's dtr, but...I know you believe in your child, as my friend has in hers.

Very best wishes to you,

SD


GravatarBTW, we have both chocolate cake and pumpkin loaf. Dig in.

Echidne, a big slice on your altar, and the smaller plates of pumpkin loaf are for the dogs.


Gravatar2 minutes to 9/11 in Chicago, Ek.

Tomorrow changed everything! And I was here for it tonite!


GravatarAll I know about addiction is, I carry the disease. And thnkfully I realise it.


GravatarEchidne--since it is a complex disease, there would have to be a large number of genetic + environmental factors that would have to converge in order for the disease to manifest. It would be unlikely that a specific gene would be associated with alcoholism.

I am certainly no scholar, but, coming from a family with so many (maternal grandmother, maternal/paternal grandfathers, father, four brothers) alchoholics, I've always been of the opinion that a large part of it, anyway, almost HAD to be genetic.


GravatarSallyh,

I want a slice of each. Thanks.


GravatarSarah--thank you so much.

We have spoken every day. She doesn't seem to want us out of her life. Seems this is something she feels she must do at this time, though.


GravatarPumpkin loaf?!

Oh mah gawd. My favorite!

Pumpkin loaf, pumpkin cheesecake, pumpkin pie, pumpkin soup, pumpkin yummmmmm.


Gravatar"Jesus liked to make wine, see? That was what he did. He was a wine-maker."

-- George W. Bush


GravatarIs anyone else getting the impression that our troll on the night shift, frank, is a college freshman with a low GPA?
Sallyh, La Poissoniere


I'm thinking that it's unlikely that he's going to become a college sophomore, so yes.


GravatarEchidne--since it is a complex disease, there would have to be a large number of genetic + environmental factors that would have to converge in order for the disease to manifest. It would be unlikely that a specific gene would be associated with alcoholism.

Yes. What I was trying to convey was the idea that the genes themselves may be affected by the environment. In other words, nature and nurture may be interlaced in ways which makes it impossible to talk about them as two separate influences.


Gravatar"Jesus likes to make wine. It's what he does"

don't forget Dionysus...or was he really Jim Morrison?


Gravatar9/11 circle jerks aren't going to help Bush anymore.

George W. Bush: Keepin' America Safe Since 2001...


GravatarWould you trust a guy with a martini...or with a Bible?
Nûr al-Cubicle | Email | Homepage | 09.11.05 - 12:58 am | #
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they are not mutually exclusive...au contraire, nitey NITE you lovelies


GravatarThank you Uncle Smokes, for your earlier offering. You made me laugh, right down here. Bless.


GravatarEchidne--you're right to point out the complex interplay.

There are very few Mendelian disorders such as CF, sickle cell, etc., relative to complex diseases.


GravatarWhy do you hate Jesus, remek? He likes to make wine. It's what he does. Why do you want to take that away from him?

He made furniture, too. I use furniture. Isn't that enough?


Gravatardon't forget Dionysus

How can I? He's sitting in my living room... Well, Dionysios, actually, which means a worshipper/follower of Dionysus...


GravatarMy sister, who was married on 9/11/82, says she wants a new anniversary.


Gravatar*burp*

Wouldn't alcohol kill the "alcoholism" gene? Why hasn't alcoholism "bred itself" out of the gene pool by now?

How are Mrs., Master and Missy X?
Sallyh, La Poissoniere


All of the Xs are well, thank you.

We are considering buying a few cords of wood and some whiskey for the approaching Apocalypse™...

what do YOU think the Currency of the Future™ will be, Sallyh?
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Gravatarnature and nurture may be interlaced in ways which makes it impossible to talk about them as two separate influences.


It's a very possible likelyhood.

I have to say tho tht my mother (primary caregiver) never suffered from addiction. My real father may have ( I have not seen or spoken to him in over thirty years). That kind of leaves nurture out of my equasion. But many people I know do have parents that suffer from the disease.


GravatarThinlyVeiled - As long as there's no dithyramb, everything's cool.


GravatarHe argued that there is no such thing as a mental illness etcetera

Sumbitch obviously never met my ex-husband...
ThinlyVeiled


Or MINE


GravatarSan Antone Rose--it's gotten cool here the past 2 days, and it's September, so I felt as if it was a good time to break out the pumpkin. Cinnamon...cloves...nutmeg...


GravatarI have a cold! How dare it. Good night, everyone, and thanks for the cakes, sallyh.


GravatarEvening all (or should I say, good morning).

To any Buckeye's here, Hook 'em horns!


Did anyone see that new looting that is going on in La and Ms?


GravatarGood evening, fellow moonbats! How's your world?


GravatarThe Apostles used to complain about Jesus whacking away at them with his square when he was loaded...and when a chair had one leg shorter than the other three, they said That must be a Monday chair...


GravatarMisterX--bottled water, breakfast bars and Pampers?


Gravatar ThinlyVeiled - As long as there's no dithyramb, everything's cool.

No, my son is out for the evening, so I haven't nearly enough young men around for all of that... ha ha.


GravatarWould you trust a guy with a martini...or with a Bible?

Bible. I mean, what are they odds I'd get that mertini back, hmmm?
Or put another way, I'd trust a guy with a Bible with my martini, as opposed to a guy without a Bible.


Gravatarpumpkin yummmmmm.
san antone rose


Don't forget:

PUMPKIN WHOOPIE PIES!
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GravatarBush:

The Genocide Preznit.

Both here AND abroad.


GravatarEchidne! Blast. Just missed her. A Goddess must always be on the run, I suppose.


GravatarDoozer--but Fruny would only trust someone if they had fresh tuna. Maybe.


GravatarWould you trust a guy with a martini...or with a Bible?
Nûr al-Cubicle

martini, hands down.

But that would be the originasl martini, not the weird ones they have these days (e.g.,appletini, chocolate martini, etc)


Gravatarhmmm...
how do you post and then get back to where you left off?


GravatarNever been married. Gets me wondering, though. People who marry someone who turns out to be a jerk (or a monster) - don't they get a hint of the monster-ism beforehand, or is love truly blind?


GravatarDesi--the goddess is, alas, under the weather. But we have plenty of chocolate cake and pumpkin loaf.

Cool weather breeds mad baking.


GravatarHiya, Desi! How's MI treating you?


GravatarMisterX--bottled water, breakfast bars and Pampers?
Sallyh, La Poissoniere


Yes, that makes sense. However, there's a LOT to be said for "Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms", as it were...

And gasoline/kerosene/heating oil...

OK, now I'm bummed.
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GravatarMister X--my favorite pumpkins are the ones they dip in liquid nitrogen and drop from the top of the Millikin Library at Caltech every Halloween.


GravatarDid anyone see that new looting that is going on in La and Ms?
David (Austin Tx)

This is obscene.

Period.

How fucking dare they.

But, of course, they do most certainly dare.


Gravatarillich was one of the first important critics of technology and of its implantation in the heart of schools.

his first important work was probably 'deschooling society.' in it he argued that the structure of sholls and schooling, based upon the model of efficiency in business championed earlier by the so-called taylorites and others functioned, in practice to disempower children in their education; that is, to actively prevent them from learning.

i read through the abstract at picoeconomics, and i can see nothing in the literature or the discourse of that site which redounds with the influence of illich, unless it is in the apparent underlying premise that diseases are socially constructed, which is effectively what Foucault was saying about mental illness in france in the birth of th clinic, which i now suspect illich of having read in french...

the picoeconometricians seem to me to be ideologically committed to the notion of radical individual responsibility, and opposed to the notion of the effects of social structures and discourses in shaping lives and habits...which would be quite the opposite side on which illich would land in that dispute...

just sayin
/pedantry


Gravatarhow do you post and then get back to where you left off?

Good question. My browser used to do that, untill haloscan went and upgraded (as it were).


GravatarI have cool new 'annoy a conservative' products at my homepage. (/pimp...)


Gravatar hmmm...
how do you post and then get back to where you left off?


I open two HolaScan windows. Post in one, reload the other for reading.

Post, hit 'end' key to get back to the publish box. Read the other window, reload to read the latest posts.


GravatarSallyh, I've got one helluva cold, too, and it sucks making your own chicken soup. lol

Ripley! Michigan's been pretty good to me. How are you?


GravatarI've long thought there must be a genetic thread to alcoholism -- or to a predisposition to alcoholism, anyway. I'm of Irish-American heritage, and we've tracked the descendants of the immigrant great-great-grandmother (1848, Sligo to Boston to Wisconsin, with ten children, mind you), and there's at least one alcoholic in every branch in every generation. Some branches have more. Some have less.

Andrew Greeley says God made liquor to keep the Irish from taking over the world.


GravatarY'all might get a kick out of this. A post I wrote for the General got read on Air America last night. If you want to hear it:

http://greatscat.blogspot.com/20...-m-g- files.html

I think that goes beyond blogwhoring, into shameless blogslutting.


Gravatarremek: it's the ultimate example of 'trying to make a difference' in someone's life.

Alternatively, 'the road to hell is paved with good intentions'

eye of the beholder, I guess...


GravatarPost, hit 'end' key to get back to the publish box. Read the other window, reload to read the latest posts.

No that is either too logical or just plain insane.

I can't figure out which.


Gravatartwo open haloscans...

I hear dueling banjos in the distance...


GravatarMaybe I will try some pumpkin loaf w/my tea . . .


GravatarDesi--shameless blogwhoring in your case is greatly deserved!


GravatarDoozer--but Fruny would only trust someone if they had fresh tuna. Maybe.
Sallyh, La Poissoniere


Strange as it may seem, tuna won't do it around Chez Doozer. I bought 6 cans of tuna catfood, and 4 of them are rusting on the shelf. They won't touch it. I tried some Starkist, to see if it was just the catfood, and they spurned that, too. I ate the rest of the Starkist, but I aint touching the other...


GravatarDesi!

You're a star!


Gravatardo I smell cake?


GravatarWell, folks, you've all been real swell, but The Greek has finally put down the guitar, and if I'm to have any "luck" at all this eve, I'd best get while the gettin's good. Sweet dreams, all.


GravatarDesi--if you were nearby, I'd deliver chicken soup, and tea, and People magazine.

Monsieur and Mademoiselle claim People Magazine is amazingly fun to read when ill. I'll take their word for it.


GravatarHello, folks.

What's new? Is Bush in jail yet? Or better yet, Hell?


GravatarHello, folks.

What's new? Is Bush in jail yet? Or better yet, Hell?


Gravatarup2late--you're in the room, aren't you?

Cake being served.


GravatarI've long thought there must be a genetic thread to alcoholism --

what did ever happen to Drinkee O'Magnon?


GravatarSo, WGG, whatever the individual suffers from is the inherent fault of the individual, and societal influences are irrelevant...???

Every person for themselves.

Sounds like Repug philosophy to me.


GravatarDoozer--with the exception of one kitty, most of mine reject any kind of moist cat food. These are Cat Chow fans.


Gravatarmy favorite pumpkins are the ones they dip in liquid nitrogen and drop from the top of the Millikin Library at Caltech every Halloween.

Now that sounds cool! In Detroit, they dip 'em in gasoline, light 'em up and toss through your living room window on Halloween. AKA Devil's night.


Gravatarmmffph

that "thank you" with a mouth full of cake.
mmmmm, love pumpkin loaf!


GravatarSep 11, 12:23 AM (ET)

By DOUG SIMPSON

(AP) Blues musician Clarence 'Gatemouth' Brown, 72, plays the fiddle during his performance at the...
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BATON ROUGE, La. (AP) - Clarence "Gatemouth" Brown, the singer and guitarist who built a 50-year career playing blues, country, jazz and Cajun music, died Saturday in his hometown of Orange, Texas, where he had gone to escape Hurricane Katrina. He was 81.


GravatarSallyh,
I'm already trying to run through how I would deal with some of the teenage situations that will inevitably come up, but the next day I always feel foolish for trying to predict what will come (so far in advance, anyway).

Say, does 3 1/2 sound early to you for wanting to know how real babies get into mommies' tummies to you? Damn, I was sweating bullets on that one today. Finally had to defer to my wife, the teacher with the Early Childhood/Psyche background. (Me: Well, mommies and dadies show their love for each other in a way that only big people can--social custom...My Daughter: "no, I want to know how...). I informed my wife, of course, in case my child remembers to ask her. Probably 75/25%, in favor of that possibility.

*BTW--anyone with a toddler stuck in the "why's" might want to try that "social custom" thing. Like, "Friend, you've got to put your pants on. But why? Social custom."*

Night, Batatses!


GravatarIt's a lot easier than trying to read and post in one window. And you can size them for your personal visual comfort.

I make the posting window just a little bigger than the Publish box and the reading window just big enough so I don't have to use the scroll bar.

But I'm Norwegian.


GravatarFrom the Strange But True Files:


Prior to 911,bush gets plenty of warning about an attack in the US,but does nothing.

Four years later he gets plenty of warning of a dangerous hurricane,yet does nothing.Strange But True.

This has been an announcement from the office of Strange But True.


GravatarOn Sunday the President will have a moment of silence. Although, this one won't last 3 days.

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GravatarJoycamp--I answered my kid's query re that when she was about your daughter's age. She said, oh, okay. Can I have some Goldfish crackers now?


Gravatare.g.,appletini, chocolate martini, etc)

Looks like I quit drinking just in time...


GravatarRIP, Mr Brown.

I had read that he'd suffered a heart attack as he was being evacuated by family members


GravatarGatemouth Brown link
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/ MG...GBLEP2SGDE.html


GravatarDesi--if you were nearby, I'd deliver chicken soup, and tea, and People magazine.

I'm sure you would darlin' . . . what's People magazine? Mmmm, this pumpkin loaf is *good*!


GravatarDesi, it's well earned shameless blogslutting! Congratulations.


GravatarI'm using the 'over-lap' method myself.
That would be both haloscan windows and the 'lap'-top

-ha.


GravatarSarah Deere,

Isn't it though.


GravatarI've been down on the lower thread reading the liveblog while I watched Screaming Brain.

What's going on up here?


GravatarDesi--I prefer the Weekly World News myself, but only when they've got Batboy on the cover.


GravatarMusic anyone?

http://www.warnerreprise.com/qt-...s- video_ref.mov

I can't get enough of this cd, it doesn't have a single song on it I don't love.


GravatarFlory--chocolate cake and pumpkin loaf. Desi's famous now. Ripley is still Norwegian


Gravatarfruit frappe/milkshakes

tonight's flavor, sour cherries, strawberries, mango, bananna.

Want a tall glass?


GravatarSo, WGG, whatever the individual suffers from is the inherent fault of the individual, and societal influences are irrelevant...???

Every person for themselves.

Sounds like Repug philosophy to me.
Sarah Deere -- 1:24 am


well, the guys frank's citing--behavioral psychologists-- are saying that people's actual behaviors are governed through psychological mechanisms rather than chemical stimuli (i.e., alcohol)...

they would argue that behavior finally is the result of choices made on a very silent, very intimate level between the interests of the various component parts of an individual psyche/self (and there are multiple selves in every personality)...behavior is the result of bargains made and 'game theory' games played abetween and among the competing 'interests' in the self...
i think...


Gravatardoug--pretty please for a sour cherry one?

We have pumpkin loaf and chocolate cake to accompany these delicious concoctions.


GravatarThis has been an announcement from the office of Strange But True.
notch


Boy, THAT was strange. But true.
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GravatarDarn, I wish they'd approve my new gravatar already. How hard is it to decide what rating to give tinkerbell for god's sake?


Gravatar-pretty please for a sour cherry one?

with or without sugar, honey, icecream?

(pick one or all) we can even just top the frappe with vanilla ice cream.


Gravatarwell, the guys frank's citing--behavioral psychologists-- are saying that people's actual behaviors are governed through psychological mechanisms rather than chemical stimuli (i.e., alcohol)...

I'm skeptical. There've been some studies done that pretty well confirm the chemical/genetic side of alcoholism, IMO. And coming from 8 generations of 'em, I've looked into it fairly carefully.

Though Lord knows I've been wrong before.


GravatarOffice of Dancers?


...

WTF?
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GravatarWell, it's saturday night and I changed my gravatar again. It's one of my dogs again.


GravatarThe WWN is my favorite trash tabloid. I never buy one, but I cackle at the headlines waiting at the checkout. Has anyone ever admitted to taking that thing seriously? I mean besides Bush's base...


GravatarDoug--ice cream, no sugar or honey, thanks


GravatarOff to bed with this body. It will fail otherwise.

Goodnight all you freedom loving moonbats.

If you should find someway to oust the bastards in office whilst I sleep, good on you and don't wait on me.


Just do it.


GravatarMmmfhhmmmmgmm? I mean, where'd everybody go? Love the pumpkin loaf.


GravatarThe WWN is my favorite trash tabloid. I never buy one, but I cackle at the headlines waiting at the checkout. Has anyone ever admitted to taking that thing seriously? I mean besides Bush's base...

I used to have a subscription. The Sun, too. I used them to make giant weirdness collages that scared women.


GravatarDoozer--who said anything about buying it?

Then again, you have to wonder why anyone would choose to read it in a brightly lit, densely populated Safeway instead of in the privacy of one's own washroom.


GravatarHow hard is it to decide what rating to give tinkerbell for god's sake?

Weekends aren't a great time for new gravatars.

Tinkerbell?


Gravatardoug

Glad to see the pooch back but I still liked the one with his nose on the lens.

Fine looking dog.


GravatarI used to have a subscription. The Sun, too. I used them to make giant weirdness collages that scared women.
Eli


You're saying they has a collagin' objection?


GravatarNever been married. Gets me wondering, though. People who marry someone who turns out to be a jerk (or a monster) - don't they get a hint of the monster-ism beforehand, or is love truly blind?
remek


Some people are real good at hiding it!


GravatarDamn you, Doug! Daaaaamn you!!


GravatarYou're saying they has a collagin' objection?

Well, they were certainly resistant to a collage education.


GravatarSally's disposition is a bit on the serious side. Others have picked up on this also, if you guage the post-eschacon reactions to her.


GravatarThe Office of Strange but True

busiest place on the planet

later' bats, 's been another one of those nights...


GravatarYes, tinkerbell. I do believe in fairies. I do. I do.


Gravatarthey would argue that behavior finally is the result of choices made on a very silent, very intimate level between the interests of the various component parts of an individual psyche/self (and there are multiple selves in every personality)

And they attach no importance to the idea that one or more of the components might be drunk at the time?


GravatarYou're saying they has a collagin' objection?
Phila | Homepage | 09.11.05 - 1:37 am | #

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I thought this was a pun free thread?


GravatarPhil--how are you?

I'll admit I never lit up a party.


GravatarSome people are real good at bringing out the monster in others.


GravatarWhoops... One more for the road...


"I don't mind the negative press (well, actually, I do, but I try to ignore it) but it is really wearing out the family," Brown wrote. "No wonder people don't go into public service. This country is devouring itself, the 24-hour news cycle is numbing our ability to think for ourselves," the Rocky Mountain News reported Saturday. - Michael Brown



Discuss amongst yourselves.


Gravatar"FUCK ALL YOU LIBERALS. YOU'RE DESTROYING THE NATION AND UNDERMINING THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE WITH YOUR CONSTANT CRITICISM.
GENE"

Gorsh, if it wasn't having a profound effect, you prolly wouldn't care, woodja?

Is it politics, or reality? You decide, dipshit!


GravatarWow. It's 1:30 where most of you all are.

Its only 10:30 here and I pretty-much need to go to bed now. It's Saturday. Damn. I suck.


GravatarThere's a monster in my pants
And it does a nasty dance
When it moves in and out
Everybody starts to shout

Monster, aaaah monster, aaaah
Get outta here monster!
Monster! Monster!
Get outta here monster!


GravatarSallyh--just the headlines! Out of the corner of my eye...


Gravatar"It's damned near midnight, and you want pith from a tired old broad like me? Pshaw."

Hey. It's just a drug test for employment...


Gravatar` just saw this bit in the NYT...


At the Oval Office meeting, the president also expressed support for Mr. Chertoff, said an aide, who paraphrased Mr. Bush as saying, "I will support you in whatever decision you make." On Saturday, several administration officials said it was unclear to them whether Mr. Bush's response had been intended to make it clear to Mr. Chertoff that he had finally understood the president's desires or whether the president was really leaving the decision to the cabinet secretary responsible for the relief effort.

WTF... is this an example of " the fog of war "
Jesus, I think were in more trouble than we thought here !


GravatarI thought this was a pun free thread?
up2late


You thought wrong!


GravatarDoozer--not me. I'm not about to miss the latest on Batboy!


Gravatar "It's damned near midnight, and you want pith from a tired old broad like me? Pshaw."

Pith and vinegar, ideally.


Gravataryup, 1:38, watching HGTV...


GravatarWhat's on tv right now?


GravatarSome people are real good at bringing out the monster in others.
phil


Or they drive you crazy, and then blame you for being nuts.

.


Gravatar. This country is devouring itself, the 24-hour news cycle is numbing our ability to think for ourselves," the Rocky Mountain News reported Saturday. - Michael Brown



Discuss amongst yourselves.
smalfish


Oh, we are pretty discuscted, among ourselves.


Gravatarup2late--10.39 here. Monsieur is making me endure 'The Rock.' I think this is payback for 'Alien Apocalypse' and 'The Man with the Screaming Brain.'


GravatarThen again, some people are just fucking crazy


GravatarI do believe in fairies. I do. I do.


Desi,

Are you familiar with this?


GravatarOr they drive you crazy, and then blame you for being nuts.

agave accidental texan


That's a classic, alright. I've run afoul of that one more times than I can count.


GravatarDid someone say BATBOY?
http://www.batboy.ca/


GravatarreDesign - they're tearing up a tiny bathroom...

which is exactly what we get to do soon, since hubby had an altercation with the hammer in the lavatory...


GravatarLife as a manic depressive....


GravatarWow.

Something just let out.

Later 'gators.
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Gravatardiscuscted....oh well, wtf.


GravatarReal Texan--I would so love to see that!


GravatarThere's a lion in my pocket
And, baby, he's ready to roar


Which is especially creepy, coming from Prince.


Gravatar Life as a manic depressive....
dazz


I've managed to cut the manic side way, way down in the last few years. Who needs giddy, extravagant self-confidence when you can have crushing suicidal depression?


GravatarI was a birthday party for a friend tonight- late 20 to early 30 somethings (most all married couples).

Now, here's a question. Is it common for suburbanite couples to talk sex constantly? Is there some sorta deviant undercurrent in suburbia?

Every "couples" party I have been to- main subject of the night is sex.

It's like there is a huge build-up of repressed sexual energy out there in suburb-land. Everyone wants to sleep with the neighbor...

No wonder that damn disparate housewives is so popular.

Of course, there's nothing wrong with talking sex- but more action, less talk...

.


Gravatar"Phil--how are you?

I'll admit I never lit up a party."
-- Sallyh, La Poissoniere

I'll admit to being lit at a couple of parties.


Gravatardieselcreek--most of the parties I attend, on the rare occasions that I do, we seem to end up talking about politics.

But I run with a bad crowd.


GravatarIt's like there is a huge build-up of repressed sexual energy out there in suburb-land. Everyone wants to sleep with the neighbor...

'Twas ever thus, I believe. In my experience, though, if you want a good time, hook up with the person who's not talking about sex nonstop...


GravatarHmm. I don't know WWN either. I'm gonna have to pay more attention at the checkout lanes.


Gravatar Then again, some people are just fucking crazy

That's me. But not crazy enough to vote for Bush. I like breathing air and drinking water and.. what's the other thing... Living!!

Today changed everything!!! (4 years ago.... )


GravatarI've managed to cut the manic side way, way down in the last few years. Who needs giddy, extravagant self-confidence when you can have crushing suicidal depression?

9.99!!


GravatarToday changed everything!!! (4 years ago.... )
Ripley


Among other things, it's been four years since I went a day without hearing the words "9/11."


GravatarHmmm, good point phila.


Gravatar" There's a monster in my pants
And it does a nasty dance
When it moves in and out
Everybody starts to shout" -- Eli

I've been away for a while....Do I want to know the cause of this outburst?


GravatarRipley--are you trying to tell me my Slurpee cost 9.99?


GravatarSallyh-
Me too but I doubt it would ever make it down here.


Gravatar"I'm honored to shake the hand of a brave Iraqi citizen who had his hand cut off by Saddam Hussein."
—Bush, meeting with Iraqi citizens who received medical care in the U.S., May 25, 2004


And with that I say, Good Night. (There really is a change a comin. I believe.)


GravatarBTW, going out didn't work out so well.

We passed the Club and in the process of turning around, Melisa got so pissed at me, she just headed home. I don't think I said or did anything wrong. The truth may be, it was dark, foggy and late. She was up early, worked all day till 11:30 pm, and just the drive up there was stressful.

I think both of us was thinking this was a bad idea.

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Gravatardieselcreek,

I see a lot of repressed sexual energy amongst many of the people I know out here in suburban hell, but the crowd I run with does not have such hangups, so therefore the conversation does not drift in that direction.

However, some friends I used to know, before they moved away, inevitably with them (particularly the woman), sex and sexual positions, etc. became her topic of choice.


GravatarI've been away for a while....Do I want to know the cause of this outburst?

Well, there was some conversation about living with or marrying monsters.


At least, I *think* there was...


GravatarNight dear bats. Food on the counter. Don't share with the trolls.


GravatarCS,
the song yes. Love Freddie Mercury, may he rip.

I wonder how that pic would look on a gravatar?


Gravatar9.99

that's not the new price for a gallon of gas, I hope?


GravatarI've been away for a while....Do I want to know the cause of this outburst?

I believe Phila nailed it with giddy, extravagant self-confidence.

But I'm merely an observer on Eli's planet.


Gravatar"It's like there is a huge build-up of repressed sexual energy out there in suburb-land. Everyone wants to sleep with the neighbor..."

"'Twas ever thus, I believe." -- Phila

In my old suburb of Lancaster, CA, my neighbors (cops and cop-families all) threw a birthday party for their 4-yr-old, which devolved into a wife swapping deal.

I believe the children were asleep at that point, but not being there I can't vouch for it.


GravatarHas anyone told the stiffy joke yet?


GravatarBut I'm merely an observer on Eli's planet.

"I don't think God put me on this planet to judge others. I think he put me on this planet to gather specimens and take them back to my home planet."


GravatarI wonder how that pic would look on a gravatar?
Desi

Very, very difficult to see...
like little dots...
.........
.......
......


GravatarWell HELL, now I'm starting to think all the couples I know have really bad sex lives!



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Gravatar Ripley--are you trying to tell me my Slurpee cost 9.99?

Crap! I only brought one bag back from the store!

I'm guessing it's pink goo on the floor by now, Sally. If it hasn't been recycled into the Slurpee machine.

Tomorrow a happy child may be drinking your Slurpee, Sally. Drinking it for FREEDOM!!


Gravatarwoof!


GravatarI'm going with Ripley's interpretation.


GravatarI believe the children were asleep at that point, but not being there I can't vouch for it.
Marcia Brady,SaneByComparison


I think the basic deal is that this stuff's going on absolutely everywhere...but folks in big cities tend to be a lot more show-offy about it.


GravatarI believe the children were asleep at that point, but not being there I can't vouch for it.
Marcia Brady,SaneByComparison

I think the basic deal is that this stuff's going on absolutely everywhere...but folks in big cities tend to be a lot more show-offy about it.


My life is so fucking dull...


GravatarIs that all you can think about compassionate conservative? Penises?

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Gravatardarn sallyH you drank a sour cherry frappe (in an 24 oz glass filled to the top.) now you want a slurpee. Where do you put it?


Gravatar Well HELL, now I'm starting to think all the couples I know have really bad sex lives!

Well, the people I've known who were the most obsessively garrulous about sex were either inept, or tragically insecure.


GravatarPendejo bush @ Kos


GravatarIs that all you can think about compassionate conservative? Penises

hrumph. pretty good description of them.

Penises with lust for more, more and still more,

but no heart or brain.


Gravatarcold medicine kicking in . . . fading fast. G'nite lovely people.


GravatarMy life is so fucking dull...
Eli


Maybe you should post a picture of your penis on Craigslist's "casual encounters." You could have Jeff Gannon at your place within hours!


Gravatar"I think the basic deal is that this stuff's going on absolutely everywhere...but folks in big cities tend to be a lot more show-offy about it." --
Phila

And there are so many layered worlds that bump around in a city, barely touching. My daughter's dear friend used to be a male escort.

It's weird thinking that the person ahead of you in the checkout line may be a sex worker, or a drug dealer, or a fire fighter, or an artist.

Although the firefighters tend to go grocery shopping in a big herd, wearing those big boots.


GravatarAlcoholism as a disease: Don't know or have any experience, thankfully. Seems logical; but I was thinking about Republicanism- is that a disease? I know some who claim they are Repubs by choice, but when you gauge the impact of Republicanism on our society, on our health, on the environment, on the world in general, sure seems to fit the description of a disease, or at least of a malignancy. If Republicanism is a disease, what do you think the cure could be? Besides the Rapture, that is.


GravatarWell, the people I've known who were the most obsessively garrulous about sex were either inept, or tragically insecure.
Like yourself?


GravatarI think the basic deal is that this stuff's going on absolutely everywhere

I'm in the NW Chicago burbs. NW burbs people, and I'm lookin. Who's got some love for Daddy?

C'moooon... tall, skinny Norwegian boy right here. Pain/Self-esteem threshold negotiable. I'll buy the booze. Anyone?


GravatarMaybe you should post a picture of your penis on Craigslist's "casual encounters." You could have Jeff Gannon at your place within hours!

Dull is looking better and better...


GravatarI wonder how that pic would look on a gravatar?

I'm afraid the detail would be lost.

Ever read "Shardik" by Richard Adams, the guy who wrote "Watership Down"?

I read it when I was a teenager, about the same time the Queen II album came out, and I can't think of one without remembering the other.

Funny that.


Gravatar2am - even I need to get to bed at some point
and I left a bunch of papers all over the bed, so I get to move those first.
Joy.

Good nite all...


GravatarYummy.

Looks like I came back up just in time for drinks and dessert.

Chocolate cake and mango frappe, por favor.


GravatarMy life is so fucking dull...
Eli


Change your shorts
Change your life
Change into a 9 year old Hindu boy
Get rid ou your wife

and call me in the morning.


GravatarIt's weird thinking that the person ahead of you in the checkout line may be a sex worker, or a drug dealer...

Or, more disturbingly, the line for the salad bar. Did you ever see that studiy of what was found on different surfaces in NYC? Subway poles tended to have vaginal secretions, while ATM pads tended to have saliva. Elevator buttons, IIRC, tended to have fecal bacteria.

(Spesaking of elevator buttons...oh, never mind.)


Gravatar"Who's got some love for Daddy?" -- Ripley

Really, Craig's List.


GravatarLike yourself?
phil


Nah. I'm tragically insecure, but not about that.


GravatarATM pads tended to have saliva. Elevator buttons, IIRC, tended to have fecal bacteria.

Bubble Boy has it better than I thought.

Moops.


Gravatar"Or, more disturbingly, the line for the salad bar." -- Phila

If you're going to think that way...

Walking behind a smoker, you always get a breath of smoke. But, really, you're getting the same thing from everyone else, except, without the smoke, you don't notice.

We all live in this big soup, sharing moist breath and body secretions with total strangers.


GravatarOH GREAT- now I'm gonna be that guy with the surgical gloves on, walking down the street.

thanks!

By the way, vaginal secretions? How?....I'm just a small town boy.

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GravatarShameless Pandering: Those with DailyKos accounts, please recommend this post Top 10 Reasons Bush Strummed A Guitar While New Orleans Needed His Help


GravatarSeems logical; but I was thinking about Republicanism- is that a disease?

I wouldn't call it a disease...but if you read "The Tea-Room Trade," "The Mass Psychology of Fascism," and "The Authoritarian Personality," you can definitely see a pattern, to say the least.

But we were also talking the other day about the stages of morality, and the notion that Repubs get stuck at the level of moral awareness appropriate to five-year-olds, which most people grow out of in their teen years.


GravatarDon't know if it's a disease, but I read that tendency for Religiousity may be genetic. Maybe being a wingnut has the the same basis.

I mean, how else do you splain it?

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GravatarWas this some kind of FEMA drill?

http://www.idiots-guide.org/badday.htm


Gravatar"By the way, vaginal secretions? How?....I'm just a small town boy."

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-- dieselcreek

I'm going to guess men (and women, I suppose) who don't wash their hands.


GravatarBy the way, vaginal secretions? How?....I'm just a small town boy.

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dieselcreek


Use your imagination.


Gravatarremek : People who marry someone who turns out to be a jerk (or a monster) - don't they get a hint of the monster-ism beforehand, or is love truly blind?

Psychotics and sociopaths have a gift for self-camophlage. They don't ever LOOK crazy until it's too late for you to run.

Funny thing is, after you escape, your psycho radar is WAY pegged for years. Unless, of course, you're looking for that sort of thing.

Central Scrutinizer : I read it when I was a teenager, about the same time the Queen II album came out, and I can't think of one without remembering the other.
Funny that.


Brothers Johnson - Strawberry Letter 23. I always see the Battle of Helm's Deep.


GravatarI bet the remaining public telephones have microbes from the Reagan era on them.


GravatarUS to terrorists: We Will Nuke You.


GravatarWe all live in this big soup, sharing moist breath and body secretions with total strangers.

You disgust me and yet I want you.

Curse this unbridled libido of mine! No, wait - curse my fear of germs. No, my libido!


Aaaghhh!! What about Bob?!?


GravatarSubway poles tended to have vaginal secretions, while ATM pads tended to have saliva. Elevator buttons, IIRC, tended to have fecal bacteria.

I could have happily lived my entire life without knowing any of that.



(gets out the Purell and scrubs furiously)


GravatarPsychotics and sociopaths have a gift for self-camophlage. They don't ever LOOK crazy until it's too late for you to run.

In my case, what would always happen is people would say, "I'm completely insane, I talk to ghosts, I'm a nymphomaniac, I masturbate to highway safety films, I'm an insomniac, and I resent men. I'd only make you miserable."

At which point I'd say, "That's OK...love conquers all!"


GravatarSubway poles tended to have vaginal secretions

Commuting strippers???


GravatarCommuting strippers???
RealTexan


My guess would be people having sex, and then running to catch the train.


GravatarOk, the Screaming Brain is over and I've finished my last glass of wine.

Bedtime.

Night all.


GravatarBush is Greg Stillson.

I said that back in 2000.


GravatarUS to terrorists: We Will Nuke You.

On the positive side, it removes any possible embarrassment over not finding WMD.


GravatarUS to terrorists: We Will Nuke You.

great, considering the pretexts that were used for the war in Iraq, we'll be bombing Malaysia next for some attack on Tulsa OK, done by some American crypto-nazi skin heads.


GravatarIn my case, what would always happen is people would say, "I'm completely insane, I talk to ghosts, I'm a nymphomaniac, I masturbate to highway safety films, I'm an insomniac, and I resent men. I'd only make you miserable."

At which point I'd say, "That's OK...love conquers all!"


I would probably just hear, "Blah blah blah blah blah nymphomaniac blah blah blah blah blah blah..."


GravatarAlso, I've never liked wine. Always gave me headaches.

I get a headache when I don't get any wine.


Gravataror crazy drunk prostitutes poll riding for the next X-games.

OK, that was uncalled for...


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GravatarPsychotics and sociopaths have a gift for self-camophlage. They don't ever LOOK crazy until it's too late for you to run.

That's right, Meander. Please, stop over for a beer. There's no crazy here... just cool, cool beer. Not crazy beer, either. Just regular old beer. C'mon over for a craz...errr... ice cold beer.


GravatarMy essay for the day:

Four Years Out. Where The Hell Are We?


GravatarSubway poles tended to have vaginal secretions

Commuting strippers???

Pole dancers.

You must have rode the wrong subways last time you were in NY.


GravatarI said that back in 2000.

You and me both, brother.


GravatarI said that back in 2000.

You and me both, brother.


GravatarBrothers Johnson - Strawberry Letter 23. I always see the Battle of Helm's Deep.

That will forever be tied to the death scene in the "Ecotone" episode of "Six Feet Under" in my mind... and I've got 30 years of memories to go with that song!


Gravatar"You disgust me and yet I want you." -- Ripley

You'd be surprised how often I've heard that....


GravatarI would probably just hear, "Blah blah blah blah blah nymphomaniac blah blah blah blah blah blah..."
Eli


That's about the size of it, I think.


GravatarI would probably just hear, "Blah blah blah blah blah nymphomaniac blah blah blah blah blah blah..."
Eli


That's about the size of it, I think.


GravatarGoddamn Haloscan.


GravatarIn the center
of the night
waiting for you
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GravatarAlright moonbats

vaginal secretions, and fecal matter make for interesting thoughts when one is as tired as I am.

So, rather than contemplate such things, I must bid you all adieu.


GravatarCommuting strippers???

Pole dancers.

You must have rode the wrong subways last time you were in NY.


Don't ride the wrong pole dancer. Just sayin...


GravatarOne positive thing to be said for talking about sex, though: it always seems to scare the trolls away.


GravatarYou must have rode the wrong subways last time you were in NY.
doug

Now that you mention it... I think it was 1977 or so.


GravatarSo, anyone interesting on the pundit shows this Sunday morning?

Brown with Margarita in hand? Bush with acoustic guitar? Hell, it's a party.


GravatarAt which point I'd say, "That's OK...love conquers all!"
Phila

Been there. Believed it. Now know it's BS.

No shit. Was warned by a female that she would be bad for me, she would drag me down. But no, I LOVED her, and it would be OK. Men fall for this crap of taking care of and helping the poor helpless woman. They think they can 'fix it'.

FUCK THAT SHIT!

RUN!

I did. It's why I left Ohio.

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GravatarNow that I've disgusted everyone, I believe I'll finish up my bottle of wine and hit the hay.

Cheers!


GravatarThere are a lot of good reasons to leave Ohio.

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GravatarSorry if someone already pointed this out, but there's a very interesting diary over at Kos regarding a townhall meeting in Texas yesterday with Lamar Smith and his constituents, who weren't too happy with the way things are going in these here United States...


Gravatar" A man without property deserves NO measure of integrity."

Can you imagine a world in which a man without property deserves just as much respect and integrity as you, a man WITH property, does? What kind of sweet and beautiful justice would that be? Perhaps not to your liking at this time, but the times, they are a'changin.'

The twenty-sixth and final chapter of the Lotus Sutra reads in part, " If you see someone approaching, rise up and greet him, as if greeting the Buddha himself."

Quite frankly, my friend, that means that EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US deserves the respect one would accord to the Buddha himself, and that is because we all have that nature, inherently, within. That is perhaps a bit hard for you to swallow at this time, but that's ok. You will find yourself obliged to accept it in the future.

And that will cure you of the suffering you now accept as real from the Dark Side of yourself...


GravatarBeen there. Believed it. Now know it's BS.

You and me both. "Don't get fixer-uppers" is my credo nowadays.

Thankfully, it's not my wife's.


Gravatar"Now that I've disgusted everyone, I believe I'll finish up my bottle of wine and hit the hay.

Cheers!" --
Phila

Have you heard how many bug thoraxes are allowed per bottle of wine?


GravatarFUCK THAT SHIT!

RUN!

I did. It's why I left Ohio.

dunno, if you have the freedom to run when you need to it can be an amusing dalliance.


Gravatar In the center
of the night
waiting for you


That's fine. But true patriots like Pat Benetar and myself are Running with the Shadows of the Night.

So, baby, take my hand - you'll be all right!


GravatarDark Side of yourself



What if both sides are dark? And I'm playing Darkside of the Moon?


GravatarDesi, god-damn. Good work.

SD


GravatarBTW, if you want a press secretary, < a href="http://www.blah3.com/">Stranger is the best. Of course, he might want to be paid for it now.


GravatarThere are a lot of good reasons to leave Ohio.

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dieselcreek


The winter of 20 below and blizzards might have something to do with it.

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Gravatarbah - blew the hyperlink - one would suppose I am an amateur at this stuff...


GravatarYou and me both, brother.

The other personage Dear Leader has reminded me of since 9/11 is the character James Whitmore played in an episode of "The Twilight Zone"... he's the captain of a colonizing mission to outer space that crash lands on an unknown planet. The frightened survivors look to him as a messiahnic figure who can keep them safe, and Whitmore relishes the part. Then, one day, a rescue mission arrives and Whitmore turns from savior to nutty would-be tyrant in the eyes of his charges overnight. I always figured that's how "President" Tipsy McStagger would end up...


GravatarHave you heard how many bug thoraxes are allowed per bottle of wine?
Marcia Brady,SaneByComparison


I actually have a CD called "Insect Noises in Stored Foodstuffs"...they used supersensitive mics, and put 'em against boxes of cereal in warehouses, etc. It's bloodcurdling.

I'm actually drinking vegan wine, so I'm at least not getting blood or fish scales in my tipple. Probably some thoraxes though. And some vaginal secretions. And maybe the odd toenail.


GravatarYer killin' me here, Phila.

Killin me!

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Gravatar"And maybe the odd toenail." --
Phila

If it's crescent-shaped, I think it means you're an islamofascist.

When did we become German, just hooking up words to make other words?


Gravatardoug : dunno, if you have the freedom to run when you need to it can be an amusing dalliance.

That way lies madness.


GravatarI always figured that's how "President" Tipsy McStagger would end up...

I'm nervously waiting for the rescue mission....


GravatarYer killin' me here, Phila.

Killin me!


My apologies! I'll cart my drunk ass outta here, as promised, and let the discussion return to sunshine, lollipops, and rainbows...

G'night, all.


GravatarLife is messy. Thank the gods.


GravatarMadness may be centralized in Chillicothe Ohio.

NASCAR anyone?

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Gravatar"I don't mind the negative press (well, actually, I do, but I try to ignore it) but it is really wearing out the family," Brown wrote. "No wonder people don't go into public service. This country is devouring itself, the 24-hour news cycle is numbing our ability to think for ourselves," the Rocky Mountain News reported Saturday. - Michael Brown

translation - "Lots of people, including the press aren't buying our BS excuses, and we're having trouble trying to spin our way clear."


GravatarLife is messy. Thank the gods.

it's the messiness that allows for the serendipitous and wondrous things to happen.


GravatarThat and genetic mutations. That Jesus for genetic mutations.

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Gravatardave™©®,

That diary is wild. Let's hope that sentiment is being felt in Repub districts all over this country. I've got the feeling it is.

And bravo to the atendees of that town meeting. Renews my faith in the belief that ture conservatives are going to start kicking neo-con ass any day now.


Gravatar"WTF... is this an example of " the fog of war "
Jesus, I think were in more trouble than we thought here !
Pat"

We should'nt misunderestimate the amount of chaos, disunity and flat-out drama that now pervades Bush's private meetings with anyone. He's lost it. Which means, for real, WE'VE WON IT. Now, what'cha wanna do?


GravatarRipley,

Love is a Battleship.


Gravatarit's the messiness that allows for the serendipitous and wondrous things to happen.

Like pencils!


Sorry, had a Ralph Wiggum moment there...


GravatarDammit. 'True' conservatives. I blame Haloscan.


GravatarI don't mind the negative press (well, actually, I do, but I try to ignore it) but it is really wearing out the family

Reminds me of JimmyJeff's lamenting how the bloggers' scorn was devastating to his family.


Gravatardave™©®,

That diary

Which diary? I missed it.

dave™©® can I have the link for it?


GravatarThe swine are on the defense. They cannot get ahead of reality.

As has been said many times, those who align themselves with the Bush family always seems to get screwed in the end.



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GravatarStranger, are you still playing? I haven't touched my bass in far too long, now.


GravatarHowever, some friends I used to know, before they moved away, inevitably with them (particularly the woman), sex and sexual positions, etc. became her topic of choice.

Wishful thinking on her part, or just a big ego?


GravatarAnd, oh, yeah, sex. From my advanced years, I can say that I am so grateful to be out of heat. Much trouble, those fertile years.

Now, I may proceed from choice, not from compulsion.

Much better.

Just wish I still had the 20/30 yr old body!!

SD


GravatarStranger, are you still playing?

Hell, yeah! I'm goiong to keep going until my fingers tell me to forget it.

No great shakes, really. Playing local gigs in NY and NE and trying to find time to write and record stuff.

Spent all day moving rack gear between two racks and re-wiring wedge monitors. Everybody needs a hobby.


GravatarWhat is this 'sex' you all speak of?


Gravatardunno, if you have the freedom to run when you need to it can be an amusing dalliance.
doug


From Ohio to Connecticut to NM to TX.
Amusing? More like I'm glad it happened.

Ask Woody how many places he's lived.

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GravatarLII (Legal Information Institute at Cornell) Backgrounder on Impeachment
http://www.law.cornell.edu/backg...ach/ impeach.htm


GravatarPat Robertson says Ellen DeGeneres caused 9-11. And Katrina. And she ruined the fun of Gulf War II.

http://datelinehollywood.com/arc...s-to-host- emmys

Did she shoot down Flight 93? Somebody did. I have proof.


Gravatar" gauge the impact of Republicanism on our society, on our health, on the environment, on the world in general, sure seems to fit the description of a disease, or at least of a malignancy. If Republicanism is a disease, what do you think the cure could be? Besides the Rapture, that is.
Dumass Libural"

How about calling it what it really is, conservatism? Isn't that the mindset that opposes progress, which when you think about it, is the natural course of nature? Doesn't it adapt creatively to the realities of life, like we all do to survive? Isn't that basically what Darwin was talking about?

Opposing it is the mindset of the Good Ol' Boys, who want to keep women barefoot and pregnant, and black folk in their place, etc. They have become the dinosaurs now.

Trick is, DON'T LOOK BACK.


GravatarWhich diary? I missed it.


here Good stuff.


GravatarLet me catch up:

1:

George W. Bush: Keepin' America Safe Since 2001...

And right up up until September 2005.

2:

The Weekly World News is great. I don't think even they take themselves seriously.

3:

I, too, loved Shardik. Read the prequel (Maia) not too long ago. Didn't love it as much.

Okay. As you were.


GravatarThat way lies madness.
Meander

This explains much.

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Gravatar"I'm honored to shake the hand of a brave Iraqi citizen who had his hand cut off by Saddam Hussein."
—Bush, meeting with Iraqi citizens who received medical care in the U.S., May 25, 2004

was the citizen there?


Gravatar Pat Robertson says Ellen DeGeneres caused 9-11. And Katrina. And she ruined the fun of Gulf War II.

Sweet lord, Robertson is another world. That is just pitiful...


Gravatar>Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your thread; I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him.

he is what say doing?
im not understand.
eazy english plz...


GravatarThe other hand, apparently.


GravatarFriends, Romans, Countrymen, lend me your ears. I come to sodomize Chimpy with a rusty post-hole digger, not to praise him.


GravatarSisu

You funny man.

.


GravatarOh, yeah--and it's 9/11. So stop saying bad things about our fearless leader. Remember: you're either with us, or against us.


GravatarRead Otter's blog.

http://otterside.blogspot.com/

They rescued someone today, and fed trapped dogs and a cat.


GravatarCEA

OK. I'm against you.

are you Happy now?


GravatarCan you imagine a world in which a man without property deserves just as much respect and integrity as you, a man WITH property, does?

Of course, John Locke said 'Every man is a Property in his own Person', and that notion of self-possession, of being one's own proprietor, is critical to the thinking that went into the new American state.

(Albeit a principle not extended to women, slaves, etc.)

'Liberty' is the right of self-possession. It's on the money, and has been for much longer than 'God'.


Gravatar"was the citizen there?" --
pretzelattack

It was much more cost-effective to just bring the hand.


GravatarBy the way, the dog bites republicans.


smart dog.


GravatarEliiiiiii. Eliiiiii. Where are you Eli?


GravatarLove is a Battleship.

Yamato or Musashi?


GravatarLove is a Battleship.

Yamato or Musashi?


Gravatari love Yamato!


GravatarKnow what you get when you cross a midget and a nimphomaniac?

Short lil' fucker about this big....


GravatarA few days after Freddie Mercury died, I dug some clay from a creekbed and made a crude slab out of it, inscribing my best wishes to him in the afterlife. I fired it to red heat in a campfire, then buried it at the base of a huge bur oak tree.

When bush dies, I'm just going to piss all over his grave.

The Asparagus and beer tour.


GravatarDamn, 3:00.

Goodnight, kids. Don't let the thetans bite.


Gravatar" now, watcha wanna do ?"

I asked my legislative reps. to work on something NOW.... demand for resignations, impeachment, whatever.
I doubt the country can stand 3 more yrs. of this ongoing clusterfuck.


GravatarBy the way, calling Chimpy & Co. conservatives is like calling Scientology a religion. Gutting environmental protections by denying universally accepted sceience, starting a war based on fraudulent intelligence, engaging in reckless and unjustifiable deficit spending, slashing taxes for the rich during a time of war, and handing out key security posts to clueless frat-boy paper pushers--anyone who voted for the Chimpster should not be allowed to call themselves a conservative, a libertarian, an American, or anything else other than a certifiable blithering idiot.


GravatarShoop maybe?

.


GravatarThe Asparagus and beer tour.

Can I also recommend Sonny Bono's grave.

Was the a-hole who extended copywrite to darned near forever.


Gravatar i love Yamato!

Great design - the Japanese didn't have to worry about fitting it through the Panama canal.


Gravatar"
When bush dies, I'm just going to piss all over his grave."

What? No wine? No party? WHen Bush dies I'll raise the American flag again. The death of one our worst enemies needs more than just grave-pissing...


GravatarAww, come on. You know Tom Cruise will be overlord.

.


GravatarWhen bush dies

Stop getting my hopes up.


GravatarWhen bush dies

Stop getting my hopes up.

bush is accident prone. He'll probobly die in a drunken accident leaving a gay strip bar in Houston Tx on Xmas eve 2008.


GravatarWhile on the tour with top administration officials from Washington, including U.S. Secretary of Labor Elaine L. Chao and U.S. Treasury Secretary John W. Snow, DeLay stopped to chat with three young boys resting on cots. The congressman likened their stay to being at camp and asked, "Now tell me the truth boys, is this kind of fun?"

They nodded yes, but looked perplexed.

(...) "You are becoming famous all over this country and even the world," he said.


Gravatar(...) "You are becoming famous all over this country and even the world," he said.


GravatarAnd I said, "He IS the government!"


Fuck YOU haloscan.


GravatarWell just looking at Delay makes one perplexed.

.


GravatarWhen it comes to gravatars, doug has skills that others lack


GravatarDidja know?

Atrios has his own entry in Wikipedia.


I happen to garner a footnote in Wikipedia.


GravatarWhen it comes to gravatars, doug has skills that others lack

Well, of course he does.


GravatarFucking Madison UW students have this obsession with fireworks. Every god-damn night i hear firecrackers and bottle rockets.

You would think it would get old after a while.

I just may have to counter-attack.

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GravatarCrooks take anti-forensic countermeasures
CSI-watching crooks are taking anti-forensic countermeasures to confuse their evidence trails, including throwing dumpster-dived cig butts in stolen-car ashtrays to create a welter of DNA profiles. Next up: ecommerce stores specialized in retailing small vials of DNA-bearing schmutz from the world's public transit systems.

There is an increasing trend for criminals to use plastic gloves during break-ins and condoms during rapes to avoid leaving their DNA at the scene. Dostie describes a murder case in which the assailant tried to wash away his DNA using shampoo. Police in Manchester in the UK say that car thieves there have started to dump cigarette butts from bins in stolen cars before they abandon them. "Suddenly the police have 20 potential people in the car," says Rutty

http://www.newscientist.com/chan.../ mg18725163.800


GravatarThey've given the order to start shooting dogs this morning in NO. Probably because they don't want more inevitable images of dogs eating corpses to get out.


GravatarI happen to garner a footnote in Wikipedia.

Pretty cool.


GravatarI don't have a link. Heard it on the radio.


GravatarBTW, should Diebold ever let a Democrat win the White House again, Stranger makes an excellent press secretary.


GravatarNo shit!:

According to Black, the name "Atrios" is actually a (misspelled) reference to a character named Antrios in the play Art, who paints the central "white painting on white canvas" in the play.


I saw that play in London. Laughed my ass off.

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GravatarI happen to garner a footnote in Wikipedia.


I'm a big fan.

Seriously.


GravatarThanks, Central! Not only am I a huge Zappa fan, but I always enjoy your comments here.


GravatarKerry Bashes Bush at Corzine Rally

Saying it bordered on “criminal negligence,” U.S. Sen. John Kerry blasted the Bush administration’s response to Hurricane Katrina yesterday and urged New Jersey voters to express their own dissatisfaction by electing Democrat Jon Corzine governor.

http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.c...y.c...aily.com/ ? p=498


Gravatarhttp://www.pasadosafehaven.org/N...g/NEWS/ NEWS.htm

Urgent need for people to foster pets rescued. From the Pasado's Safe Haven rescue site:

9/10 6:47pm PST ASCENSION PARISH SHERIFF STOPS RESCUERS FROM SHELTER - ARMED GUARDS OUTSIDE WON'T LET RESCUERS IN Apparently because the Louisiana State Veterinarian refuses to lift the 15 day quarantine hold period, the Gonzales state-designated shelter, is now considered full by the local sheriff. The Parish Sheriff is holding rescuers back with armed guards, despite the fact that we have full vans, loaded with animals - the result of a 19-hour-day of rescue. You need to speak out - call local media, whoever you can, the state vet needs to cut the bureaucracy and allow foster families, from around the country, to take these animals.
Latest need: 12- cots for rescuers to sleep on. Their days are long and they're sleeping on the floor.
Drontal plus (dogs) and drontal (cats) for flea control


GravatarNot only am I a huge Zappa fan, but I always enjoy your comments here.

Thanks friend.

Seriously, Miserable Failure is classic.


Kudos!


Gravatarwho paints the central "white painting on white canvas"

Hey! That's my Gravatar!


Gravatarwho paints the central "white painting on white canvas"

Hey! That's my Gravatar!


ROTFLMAO!


GravatarAl Gore blasts Bush; personally airlifted Katrina victims
By TERENCE CHEA, Associated Press Writer

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - Former Vice President Al Gore urged Americans on Friday to hold the Bush administration accountable for failing to adequately prepare for and respond to Hurricane Katrina.

"When the corpses of American citizens are floating in toxic flood waters five days after a hurricane struck, it is time not only to respond directly to the victims of the catastrophe, but to hold ... the leaders of our nation accountable," Gore told environmentalists at the Sierra Club's national convention.
http://www.fresnobee.com/state_w...- 11949438c.html


GravatarMask of Sanity is a must read if you want an insight into the psychology of social/psych paths. Google it. It's long out of print but a PDF is online.



Yummy Pumpkin season... Blue Moon Pumpkin Ale, Pumpkin Bagels with pumpkin cream cheese and savory pumpkin pies...

Savory Pumpkin pie. chop an onion and fry in olive oil with several chopped cloves of garlic until golden brown. Add can of pumpkin. Add cup of cooked rice (I smash mine up to almost pulp and tend to use jasmine or glutenous rice) add 1/2 to 1 cup of hard cheese (I prefer Gruyère but often use Parmesan in a pinch) add a couple tablespoons of chopped tarragon. Add an egg or two mix well and put in pie crust. I prefer an olive oil crust. Bake the crust before filling. The pie is usually set and done in 15 minutes at 325.


GravatarPlease, God. Someone. Anyone. Damn me before I rise from the dead.


Gravatarsquid696 - thanks for that. I was aware Texas A&M is a dittohead school for cowboy flunkies, nice to know they hate Univ of Texas; now I can embrace something other than Austin in TX --


GravatarI am NOT watching that "freedom walk".

I consider it a symbolic blowjob for Bush.

I find it offensive that the victims of 9-11 are being used to cheerlead for a sickening in-your-face brand of patriotism, an illegal war and a failed presidency!

The only walk I want to see is Bush and his cronies' perp walks.


GravatarRove will be indicted on October 13. The proof can be found at roveindictment.com
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GravatarDem Bengals!
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