I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

GravatarFrist?


GravatarFrist sucks!


GravatarI won't drink to that! (But I'll agree with you)


GravatarThis is a "frist" for me, guys! Is there anyone else out there?


Gravatarwhat's going on?


GravatarHi, strawhat. Love your gravatar!


Gravatartop ten?


Gravatar38%


Gravataryup. (a first for me)


GravatarIt feels funny being here with so few posters. Anyone joining yet from the previous thread?


GravatarWell, well, well. Here we are again.


GravatarHi, so glad you could join us.


GravatarHi, so glad you could join us.


GravatarWe need something to pleasant to reflect on.


GravatarI'm going to the Gulf coast to help re-build

That's cool, Rip.

but I swear I'll leave for Canada if they keep pushing this agenda of restricting personal freedom.

Not me. I'm not leaving -- and I know they'll keep pushing that agenda; it's what they exist for.


GravatarI spent the afternoon at Roxbury Park near Century City -- little kids taking their first shaky steps with parents trying to let them go on their own. Trivial Pursuit 90's with good friends. A perfect day.


GravatarOthers will join us eventually. We're a relaxed, flexible group.

Let's enjoy that fresh from the dryer smell on our clean sheets while it lasts.


Gravataryour heart, dear...???


GravatarFrist will lose to Casey. He's behind in every poll.

Buh bye asshole.


GravatarI waver between wanting desperately to flee to Greece, and being too pissed at what they're trying to do to MY country to be able to do it...


GravatarTheOtherWA: I always love to read the posts, but often feel slightly intimidated by the Atriot superstars. Love the humer, though!


GravatarThis is a "frist" for me, guys! Is there anyone else out there?

I've had 3 today, purely luck.

Mena has the record, with somewhere around 10.

(Bows to Mena)


GravatarThis is a "frist" for me, guys! Is there anyone else out there?

I've had 3 today, purely luck.

Mena has the record, with somewhere around 10.

(Bows to Mena)


GravatarSo how does one turn gravatars back on?

Pleaant reflection?

Ummmmm. Carnitas. Margaritas. Fajitas. Frijoles Borrachos. Tortillas y cebollas grilladas, guacamole y salsa fresca.


Gravatarkelly b. cites a NYT article by Dr Lisa Randall, Professor of Theoretical Physics at Harvard.

http://physics.harvard.edu/randall.htm

Physics. Mmmmmm


GravatarThinly

I struggle with the same on a daily basis.


GravatarLet's enjoy that fresh from the dryer smell on our clean sheets while it lasts.

TOW, there's a stock stuck to your butt.

Where's that damned Snuggle bear when you need him?


Gravatar TheOtherWA: I always love to read the posts, but often feel slightly intimidated by the Atriot superstars.

Pretty sure I'm one of the Atriot character actors. Or humorous sidekicks.


GravatarThanks, Central Scrutinizer. It was oddly exciting to be "frist".


Gravatareli... aka robin


GravatarThat reminds me, one of my "firsts" today was a haloscan induced double.

Yes, I'm blaming haloscan.


GravatarFirefox, Sarah?


Gravatar eli... aka robin

I said humorous, not crypto-gay.

Not that there's anything *wrong* with that...


GravatarOldest "Buffalo Soldier" to be buried at Arlington:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/17...dier/ index.html


GravatarTOW, there's a stock stuck to your butt.
One of life's embarrassing moments: Going to work one day (late, as usual) with a pair of underwear static-clinging out of the bottom of my pantleg. Of course, no one said anything....


Gravatarkelly b. cites a NYT article by Dr Lisa Randall, Professor of Theoretical Physics at Harvard.

I missed that link. Will you repost it, por favor?


GravatarNo, No, Eli! You're definitely one of the superstars! I love your posts. Just took a stroll through some of the Eschacon photos. So great to put faces with handles.


GravatarFrist will lose to Casey. He's behind in every poll.

Buh bye asshole.
Dartanyon | Email | Homepage | 09.18.05 - 12:03 am | #


Oh please oh please oh please.


Or as the poet said,


"A conummation devoutly to be
wished."


GravatarTheOtherWA: I always love to read the posts, but often feel slightly intimidated by the Atriot superstars.

Pretty sure I'm one of the Atriot character actors. Or humorous sidekicks.
Eli

Beats being the fluffer!


GravatarHere's something pleasant - at least if you take pleasure in schadenfreude:

mer said on the last thread something to the effect of pitying her (his)? kids, and others agreed. I do, too. I think today's kids have at least a 50/50 chance that the America of their adulthood will bear a striking resemblance to the slums of Rio or Mexico City.

It's one of the reasons I decided finally not to have kids. For all their talk about "family values", the
GOP has created a future that is toxic for the children they are so concerned about safeguarding into the world.

The bit of schadenfreude is: the fundies are breeding like rabbits. Which means every fundie couple will, in their old age, have a much larger contingent of children and grandchildren who hate their guts for bringing them into a world of shit that the parents/grandparents themselves created.

I'm sorry that everyone else's kids will have to live in that world of shit as well, and worry endlessly for my niece and nephew. But at least they'll understand that I didn't support turning everything to crap.


Gravatar... i'm listening to "Confrontation" in his honor...


GravatarHeh. I'm glad to get the "Chill Wills" roles.

Life being a Tommy Lee Jones movie, and all.

And yeah, how'd you know it was Firefox?


GravatarNo, No, Eli! You're definitely one of the superstars! I love your posts. Just took a stroll through some of the Eschacon photos. So great to put faces with handles.

Thanks, but I can't be a superstar *and* a paparazzi at the same time, you know...


GravatarSantorum v. Casey.


GravatarHere's the article that kelly b. posted-- it was on the old thread.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/1.../ 18randall.html


GravatarUmmmmm. Carnitas. Margaritas. Fajitas. Frijoles Borrachos. Tortillas y cebollas grilladas, guacamole y salsa fresca.
The Other Sarah

I hear you.
(Melissa interpted some what)

What's Frijoles Borrachos?

.


Gravatareli...
not one of the Ambiguously Gay Duo


GravatarPretty sure I'm one of the Atriot character actors. Or humorous sidekicks.
Eli


Pshaw....

The king of puns.

And softball maestro....


Gravatarmer said on the last thread something to the effect of pitying her (his)? kids, and others agreed. I do, too. I think today's kids have at least a 50/50 chance that the America of their adulthood will bear a striking resemblance to the slums of Rio or Mexico City.

Absolutely. The Republicans are running this country exactly like a banana republic. Argentina seems to be their blueprint.


GravatarJust guessing, Sarah.

Go to your File menu > Tools > Options > Web Features. You'll see 'Load Images', 3rd item down. Click the 'Exceptions' button and take gravatar.com off the list.



GravatarGreece is lovely. Italy is stupendous. Jeez, I'd settle for Montreal.


GravatarAnd I see that Blogger's status page says nothing about Blogger being intermittently completely unavailable...


GravatarA good snack?
A green chili with garlic in a tortilla.

.


GravatarBeats being the fluffer!

I think I count as a "hitchhiker" on Eschaton.

On AmericaBlog, I'd say I was more of a cheerleader...


GravatarI could always use the proper handle to match the grav.


GravatarThe king of puns.

Indeed.

The "Mir image" comment from last thread was absolutely breathtaking.

I don't know how he does it.


GravatarI don't know how he does it.

I figured the more salient question would be *why*...


GravatarOh, well....


night all.....




I'm just tired.


GravatarThe king of puns

Also immortalized on a T-shirt


Gravatarvia huffingtonpost:

Karl Rove, President Bush's top political advisor and Deputy Chief of Staff, spoke at businessman Teddy Forstmann's annual off the record gathering in Aspen, Colorado this weekend. Here is what Rove had to say that the press wasn't allowed to report on.

On Katrina: The only mistake we made with Katrina was not overriding the local government...

On The Anti-War Movement: Cindy Sheehan is a clown. There is no real anti-war movement. No serious politician, with anything to do with anything, would show his face at an anti-war rally...

On Bush's Low Poll Numbers: We have not been good at explaining the success in Iraq. Polls go up and down and don't mean anything...

On Iraq: There has been a big difference in the region. Iraq will transform the Middle East...

On Judy Miller And Plamegate: Judy Miller is in jail for reasons I don't really understand...

On Joe Wilson: Joe Wilson and I attend the same church but Joe goes to the wacky mass...

In attendance at the conference, among others were: Harvey Weinstein, Brad Grey, Michael Eisner, Les Moonves, Tom Freston, Tom Friedman, Bob Novak, Barry Diller, Martha Stewart, Margaret Carlson, Alan Greenspan, Andrea Mitchell, Norman Pearlstein and Walter Isaacson.


GravatarEli & Jennifer -

I know it sometimes seems hopeless, but the internet and blogs create some of the overwhelm, but also are going to be part of the solution -- the better informed we are -- and I know I am much better informed than ever in my life -- the less we can be bamboozled. I think there's lots of room for optimism, and I hope I don't sound Pollyannaish.


GravatarArgentina seems to be their blueprint.

Cry for me Argentina.


GravatarNight steve


*blows kisses*


GravatarThe king of puns.

Indeed.


Eli is the Michael Vick of puns.


GravatarAlso immortalized on a T-shirt

"Shirt happens."

Heh.


Gravatar Greece is lovely. Italy is stupendous. Jeez, I'd settle for Montreal.
My old man is from Greece; his family still owns a house there, and one of his sisters lives there, along with various other family. We've talked about it, seriously, over the past year or so. Ever since the election, the talk has gotten a lot more serious... I don't know, though; something in me tells me that I need to stay and fight these fuckers, so, we stay. I just wonder, how long is too long to wait? For my son's sake, if nothing else, I don't want to be here after it's too late. I struggle.


GravatarGuess my role here is to be a cranky prig who just happens to post more often than the others of my ilk, such as Gary Frazier and Seraphiel (both of whom are most excellent cranks and prigs, BTW).


GravatarI don't know how he does it.
Central Scrutinizer


an advanced prototype pun generation konfabulator...lets just hope it doesn't become self-aware and take over


Gravatarsorry if I missed this -- but is Otter's blog still available?

I've not been able to access it tonight, but my dial-up can be pretty horrid about connecting.

Thanks.


GravatarI get the Zogby e-poll-questions every once in a while, and I've gotten the same one twice now (probably so they can do a tracking poll on the same question). It's about the Illinois gubernatorial race. If the race were today, they ask, would you vote for Blagojevich (incumbent, Dem, grandstanding airhead) or (Republican who's been making noises)? And they plug in the names of all the likely R's and one who I don't think is that likely -- former governor Jim Edgar. He was a good gov, the last effective one we've had, and very popular. Thing is, he's had a series of heart attacks. I think he could beat Blagojevich without ruffling his distinguished silver hair, but I'd hate to see him die in office.

Any Illinoisians out there have any thoughts?


GravatarI figured the more salient question would be *why*...

Because it was there?

It's about being aware of the "there" there.


Gravatarnice...i've been watching too...but not with too much luck, coz i didn't give it much time i think..

Thanks for the site


GravatarI figured the more salient question would be *why*...
Eli


OCD?


Gravatar

I had a little bird,
It's name was Enza.
I opened the window,
And in flew Enza.


Gravatar sorry if I missed this -- but is Otter's blog still available?

Blogspot as a whole appears to be messed up tonight.


GravatarOn Iraq: There has been a big difference in the region. Iraq will transform the Middle East...

No fucking joke, Brain Warrior!

I can't understand why Rove hates America so much. It's mindboggling.


GravatarHere is what Rove had to say that the press wasn't allowed to report on.

"We're are now completely out of touch with reality".


GravatarEli is the Michael Vick of puns.

Lots of running around and incomplete passes?


OCD?

As good a reason as any...


GravatarWasn't someone posting as "Zardoz" in the past couple of days? Here's something he can use for his gravatar...


GravatarThanks for the link to the Randall article.

Einstein's theory of relativity is really about finding an invariant description of physical phenomena. Indeed, Einstein agreed with the suggestion that his theory would have been better named "Invariantentheorie." But the term "relativity" was already too entrenched at the time for him to change.

This is the age of "Invariance."

The very different uses of the word "theory" provide a field day for advocates of "intelligent design." By conflating a scientific theory with the colloquial use of the word, creationists instantly diminish the significance of science in general and evolution's supporting scientific evidence in particular. Admittedly, the debate is complicated by the less precise nature of evolutionary theory and our inability to perform experiments to test the progression of a particular species. Moreover, evolution is by no means a complete theory. We have yet to learn how the initial conditions for evolution came about - why we have 23 pairs of chromosomes and at which level evolution operates are only two of the things we don't understand. But such gaps should serve as incentives for questions and further scientific advances, not for abandoning the scientific enterprise.

This debate might be tamed if scientists clearly acknowledged both the successes and limitations of the current theory, so that the indisputable elements are clearly isolated. But skeptics have to acknowledge that the way to progress is by scientifically addressing the missing elements, not by ignoring evidence. The current controversy over what to teach is just embarrassing.

Good for Randall, though she doesn't take on directly the failure of the media.


GravatarI was able to see Otter's blog this evening.


GravatarRipley

I bow in your direction.


Agave:

Literally, "drunk beans."

You chop some smoked pork, some chorizo, a little cilantro, some onion, garlic, tomato and chiles and throw it in a pot with beans, then cook it all in beer.


GravatarThis is the dawning of the age of invariance, the age of invariance, the age of invariance.

Invariance...


Gravatarmy team squeaked out a win tonight against Boston College


GravatarThe Other Sarah:

"You chop some smoked pork, some chorizo, a little cilantro, some onion, garlic, tomato and chiles and throw it in a pot with beans, then cook it all in beer."

Do you have a recipe?

Also, does anyone know what's happening with the Eschacon recipe book?


GravatarI haven't really been following it, strawhat, but I think Edgar would be ok. Blago has really run down the popularity slide.

I think IL is inherently corrupt at the Chicago and state gov't level. You wouldn't think anyone would be that stupid in 2005, but there they are, trying to rip off the system.


Gravatargrav check...


Gravatarseems the check's in the mail.


Gravatarotter's blog is still up, but he's away for now and not posting until tomorrow night...

g'night moonbats...

fuck bush and all gooper scumsuckers..


GravatarAlso, does anyone know what's happening with the Eschacon recipe book?
Sandy-L.A., 90034


Its done. email sallyh. I think they're $12 each.


GravatarAlso, does anyone know what's happening with the Eschacon recipe book?
You can order it at Sallyh's blog:

http://lapoissoniere.blogspot.com/

which, for some reason, I don't seem to be able to connect to at the moment.


GravatarIn attendance at the conference, among others were:

The ruling class. Hope they enjoyed Aspen.


Gravatar my team squeaked out a win tonight against Boston College
matthew


ACC's looking tough this year.
And I'm not bitter at all that Wake Forest is now precluded from ever having another decent football season...


Gravatarwhich, for some reason, I don't seem to be able to connect to at the moment.

Blogger is hosed. Hosed, I say!


GravatarInvariance...
Eli


*snort*

but it's funny OCD!


GravatarHenry, did you clear your cookies?


Gravatarbut it's funny OCD!

Definitely time for Wapner. Yeah, Wapner, definitely Wapner. Yeah.


GravatarFlory and Thinly Veiled:

Muchas gracias!


GravatarHenry, did you clear your cookies?
Ripley


I don't know about cookies, but he's got the cake


GravatarBlogger is hosed. Hosed, I say!
Yeah, I had trouble connecting here, earlier, come to think of it. I thought it was just me.


Gravatarhey, Jay C. did you happen to see Timlin pitch the 9th tonight? vicious.


Gravatarmost excellent cranks and prigs

A breed apart, and a necessary ingredient for any successful party.


GravatarHenry, did you clear your cookies?
Ripley


Getting a little personal, aren't we?


GravatarBlogger is hosed. Hosed, I say!

Game over, man!


GravatarHenry, did you clear your cookies?

Wasn't that the name of one of those early rock 'n roll novelty records?


GravatarIn attendance at the conference, among others were: Harvey Weinstein, Brad Grey, Michael Eisner, Les Moonves, Tom Freston, Tom Friedman, Bob Novak, Barry Diller, Martha Stewart, Margaret Carlson, Alan Greenspan, Andrea Mitchell, Norman Pearlstein and Walter Isaacson.
bkny | 09.18.05 - 12:15 am | #
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channeling Mike Malloy....Have I mentioned tonite ,how much I hate these people?life is just peachy aint it Andrea the economist


Gravatar hey, Jay C. did you happen to see Timlin pitch the 9th tonight? vicious.
deluxe sampo


Papelbon/Timlin could be the Guys to keep this thing moving along.

Since the rest of the 'pen smells like burnt toast. Can smell 'em from here....


GravatarI can get to Sally's but Otter's site is a busy tone.


GravatarWasn't that the name of one of those early rock 'n roll novelty records?

Johnnie Are You Qwerty?


Gravatar I can get to Sally's but Otter's site is a busy tone.

I can't get to either, but Blogger does have occasional brief lucid moments.


GravatarWell kids -- I was gonna hang around and watch Dracula 3000, but the liveblog was rather disheartening...so I'm gonna go read for awhile.

Til tomorrow...


Gravatar" Can smell 'em from here....
Jay C. | Email | Homepage | 09.18.05 - 12:26 am | #

yeah, burnt toast with smuckers carrion spread. numtious.


GravatarJohnnie Are You Qwerty?
Ripley


Work With Me Annie.


GravatarWasn't that the name of one of those early rock 'n roll novelty records?

Johnnie Are You Qwerty?


I have an MP3 of a novelty calypso song about a transsexual, sung by Louis Farrakhan.


GravatarBut that said, I still plan on raising my first child to be a crap-flinging lefty reliever. Guaranteed employment well past 40!


GravatarI have an MP3 of a novelty calypso song about a transsexual, sung by Louis Farrakhan.
Eli


Why?


GravatarI have an MP3 of a novelty calypso song about a transsexual, sung by Louis Farrakhan.
Eli

Why?


9.99!!


GravatarWhy?

Good Lord, man! Why *not*???


Gravataryou haven't really lived until you illegally download the hamster dance mp3 for your 8 year old niece...oh and also that barbie girl song by Aqua. And this is like the only band I can think of from Denmark


Gravatar"Guaranteed employment well past 40!"

of course, there is that little matter of moving every year.


GravatarSo the Chimp was recently asked his opinion on Roe vs Wade. He scratched his knoggin and then stated firmly that both were reasonable options for exiting New Orleans.


GravatarAnyone here familiar with Sujan Stevens? They've been playing his stuff a lot on the web-radio station I've been listening to.


GravatarSandy,
I cheat. I start with a big can of red kidney beans, a big can of pintos, and a can of black beans. Open 'em, stick 'em in a colander and rinse well under hot water.

Meanwhile in a skillet I'll put 1/2 a cup of diced onion, a couple cloves of crushed garlic, a rough-chopped ancho chile and a tablespoon of chopped cilantro on to cook; once the onions turn clear I'll add a good big double handful of chopped pork and a link of diced chorizo and a couple of cans of beer; bring it to a boil, add the rinsed beans, turn it back down to a simmer and heat through.

Good over Mexican cornbread -- buy the mix, make the batter like it says on the back of the package; drain a can of whole kernel corn and a can of green chiles and put 'em in the batter, pour it in one of those fold-over omelet pans and cook it on top of the stove while the beans simmer. If you like the flavor of comino you can add that to the cornbread too.

You can make the beans vegetarian if ou leave out the meat(s) and put in some smoke flavor.


Gravatarcats are frikkin nuts tonight, must be the moon


Gravataryou haven't really lived until you illegally download the hamster dance mp3 for your 8 year old niece...oh and also that barbie girl song by Aqua. And this is like the only band I can think of from Denmark

The techno remix? I have that. Also a German techno version of the Rubber Ducky song.

I passed on the Aqua song, but I do have "All Around The World" by ATC, and "Ooo Aah, Just A Little Bit" by Gina G.



I've said too much.


Gravatarnite flory..sleep tight


Gravatar..oh and also that barbie girl song by Aqua. And this is like the only band I can think of from Denmark

I was tickled to learn that the Barbie Girl song provoked an important case in the area of trademark law. We spent days studying the thing, and of course bopping along to the demonic Europop.

The next big "song" case?
"Rosa Parks," by OutKast.


GravatarSufjan Stevens, sorry


Gravatar cats are frikkin nuts tonight, must be the moon

We like the moon.


Gravatar"So the Chimp was recently asked his opinion on Roe vs Wade. He scratched his knoggin and then stated firmly that both were reasonable options for exiting New Orleans."

My headaches, trying to figure out the chimperor's logic.

And with that -- I'm taking a tylenol -- Have a good evening all.

It was fun playing in the Atriots galaxy tonight.


Gravatareli,

I found the original? and also one labeled rednex mix...had some techno banjo in it


GravatarAnybody else find it more than a bit creepy to have Colin Powell publicly channeling the Village People while we are in a hot war largely of his doing?


GravatarI found the original? and also one labeled rednex mix...had some techno banjo in it

Schwee-eet. I miss that site.


Gravatar cats are frikkin nuts tonight, must be the moon

I should be fishing.

It's like daytime out there.


Gravatareli,

you need to let us know that a speaker check is in order before going there...I just woke up the whole house


GravatarIt's a full moon, bats. Enjoy the evening and goodnight.


Gravatar
I should be fishing.

It's like daytime out there.
Central Scrutinizer


Lousy tropical storm weather, holding me down up here. The bluefish are *everywhere*, I tell you, like jumping out of the closet and stuff.


Gravatarhi


Gravataryou need to let us know that a speaker check is in order before going there...I just woke up the whole house

Oops, sorry. This stuff never even occurs to me...


Gravatarok, that's enough for one day. been a pleasure watching today's installment of the apocalypse with all y'all. i commend frank rich's latest to you. faites des beaux reves, and fuck bush.


Gravataryour being watched ripley


Gravatarby a dog with a freaky eye


GravatarI hate Christmas.


GravatarDamn your dog's eyes, doug!

hehehe


Gravatar"TOW, there's a stock stuck to your butt."

So that's what's making that crinkly sound. Looks like some shares of Google. Cool.

Cuz a sock would be so mundane. Real life like and all.


Gravatar I hate Christmas.

Me too. I think it goes back to the time we went to the North Pole and an elf killed my dad.


Gravatarlater deluxe sampo.

Don't think about Keith Foulke, if you ignore him he'll go away...


Gravatarhell, they were just hoping that you'd scratch their head or feed them a snack.


Gravatar I hate Christmas.

You mean Xmas? Or 'the season'? Or the 'happy holiday'?

You and Bill O'Reilly, both.


GravatarHey, I got to bring some appetizers to a party tomorrow, anybody know some quick to prepare appetizers that don't include aspic?


GravatarI think it goes back to the time we went to the North Pole and an elf killed my dad.
Eli


I thought you said earlier that a clown killed your dad.


Gravatar
Me too. I think it goes back to the time we went to the North Pole and an elf killed my dad.


Jack Handey was Jewish?


GravatarAnyway, this time of year, I really start to hate Christmas.


GravatarI thought you said earlier that a clown killed your dad.

It was an elf clown. It's a whole self-contained little world up there, they have elf everything, even hookers.

Er, so I've heard.


GravatarHey, I got to bring some appetizers to a party tomorrow, anybody know some quick to prepare appetizers that don't include aspic?

Triscuits. Cheeze Whiz.

Start the party and step back!


GravatarHey, I got to bring some appetizers to a party tomorrow, anybody know some quick to prepare appetizers that don't include aspic?

a 12 pack of beer


GravatarI think it goes back to the time we went to the North Pole and an elf killed my dad.

Plagiarist!

Jack Handy will do you for that, pun boy!


GravatarWow, wonder away from the computer for a few minutes and the conversation goes all over the place! Weeee!

Good night, batses. Sleep well and see you tomorrow.


GravatarHey, I got to bring some appetizers to a party tomorrow, anybody know some quick to prepare appetizers that don't include aspic?

What about the drugs?

As in, "who brought the drugs?"


GravatarPlagiarist!

Jack Handy will do you for that, pun boy!


It's parody! Fair use!


GravatarA elf clown killed your dad at the north pole?


GravatarArbor Day also sucks major ass.


GravatarHey, I got to bring some appetizers to a party tomorrow, anybody know some quick to prepare appetizers that don't include aspic?

a 12 pack of beer


Or a 9 pack, if it's a long drive.


GravatarDon't think about Keith Foulke, if you ignore him he'll go away...

promise?


Gravatarwonder=wander

but you knew that.


Gravatar A elf clown killed your dad at the north pole?

Do I hafta draw you a picture?



'Cuz I really suck at that. Photography is more my thing.


GravatarHey, I got to bring some appetizers to a party tomorrow, anybody know some quick to prepare appetizers that don't include aspic?

a 12 pack of beer


Bag of chips optional.

Bring them to my place.


Gravatargod dial up sucks.


GravatarA elf clown killed your dad at the north pole?

I just flew in from Chicago, and boy are my tiny elf arms tired.



Tough room.


Gravatar Don't think about Keith Foulke, if you ignore him he'll go away...

promise?


Is it too late for the Sawx to get Arthur Rhodes?


GravatarOr a 9 pack, if it's a long drive.

That's never happened to me.


GravatarBag of chips optional.

Just don't forget all that.


Gravatarpersonally, I hate groundhog day

and chiuauas, I can't stand chiuauas


GravatarIs it too late for the Sawx to get Arthur Rhodes?

I'm eagerly anticipating a Heathcliff Slocumb return...

Or Dennis "Oil Can" Boyd.

.


Gravatar A elf clown killed your dad at the north pole?

Where else would you find an elf clown?


Gravatar god dial up sucks.

Beats praying.


GravatarOr Dennis "Oil Can" Boyd.

He's still pitching - some low-minor or semi-pro league, I think.

(Please don't ask me what "semi-pro" is supposed to mean)


GravatarWhere else would you find an elf clown?

Powerline.


Gravatar god dial up sucks.

Beats praying.


Cheaper, too...


GravatarI've got to admit that I've never found an elf clown anywhere, I must not get out to the polar icecap much.


Gravatargod dial up sucks.

Beats praying.
Thers


thersites is another word for zen master of perspective optimization


GravatarMe too. I think it goes back to the time we went to the North Pole and an elf killed my dad.
My Dad died on Christmas Day, 1974. No shit. But don't worry, I'm not overly sensitive about it. Still hate Christmas, though.


Gravatarand chiuauas, I can't stand chiuauas

oh, they're pretty good, fried up nice and crispy on a tortilla, with a nice green chili.


Gravatar god dial up sucks.

Beats praying.


I'm holding out for JeSusL.


GravatarWell, I should have seen this one coming.

My daughter doesn't want to see my husband or me. Well, at least according to her bf.

So now, I have no daughter.

This is like losing a child to death, I swear.


Gravatar(Please don't ask me what "semi-pro" is supposed to mean)

Maybe the analogy is to our trolls are "professional" political pundits.

.


GravatarOh. Fuck.

SATELLITE IMAGERY AND NEARBY BUOY AND SHIP OBSERVATIONS INDICATE THE
TROPICAL DISTURBANCE LOCATED EAST OF THE TURKS AND CAICOS HAS
ACQUIRED ENOUGH CONVECTIVE ORGANIZATION TO BE CLASSIFIED AS A
TROPICAL DEPRESSION....TD-18 IS EXPECTED TO MOVEWEST-NORTHWESTWARD FOR THE NEXT 48 HOURS...THE GLOBAL MODELS AND THE GFDL MODEL KEEP
THE SYSTEM OVER OR SOUTH OF THE FLORIDA KEYS. .. ALL INTERESTS IN THE BAHAMAS...SOUTH
FLORIDA...THE FLORIDA KEYS...AND CENTRAL AND WESTERN CUBA SHOULD
PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THIS SYSTEM OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS...THE VERTICAL SHEAR IS FORECAST TO DECREASE TO LESS THAN 10 KT IN THE 36-60 HOUR TIME FRAME...WHILE THE CYCLONE IS OVER 30C AND WARMER SSTS. THIS WOULD FAVOR RAPID INTENSIFICATION ...THE GFS-BASED SHIPS INTENSITY MODEL ...LEVELS OFF THE INTENSITY AT
73 KT. HOWEVER...THE NOGAPS...UKMET...AND CANADIAN MODELS ... SUGGESTS THAT THIS TROPICAL CYCLONE COULD BE MUCH
STRONGER BY 72 HOURS THAN WHAT IS CURRENTLY FORECAST BY THE SHIPS
MODEL. THE 18Z GFDL MODEL RAPIDLY INTENSIFIES THE SYSTEM INTO A
120-KT HURRICANE IN 72 HOURS.



The last one, now called tropical storm Phillipe, looks like it will turn north before it hits the US mainland, maybe slamming Bermuda.


This one, unfortunately, looks like it's headed for the Gulf.....


GravatarMy older brother was born on Christmas. Not taking up the family franchise though. Don't want to be on a stick.


GravatarAnd worst of all, I missed Dracula 3000.


GravatarI'm so sorry Sally

I "lost" most of my family for a year or so, and it sucked


GravatarI'm so sorry Sally

I "lost" most of my family for a year or so, and it sucked


Gravataraccording to her bf.

So now, I have no daughter.

It's the "bf" that makes me disbelieve that it's necesarily true or even if it's true, it will be final.


GravatarBruce
Evidently it's my night.

Chimichangas: heat a cast-iron skillet with a little butter. Toast a tortilla; add a couple generous tablespoons of this mixture:

1 big can white chicken, drained;
1 small can Ro-Tel Fiesta;
I can black beans, rinsed and drained;
1 small package 4-cheese Mexican blend.

Top with 2nd tortilla and flip to brown lid. Slice and serve like pizza.


GravatarMy Dad died on Christmas Day, 1974. No shit. But don't worry, I'm not overly sensitive about it. Still hate Christmas, though.

Fuck. I am sorry; that's pretty awful.


My daughter doesn't want to see my husband or me. Well, at least according to her bf.

So now, I have no daughter.

This is like losing a child to death, I swear.


Jesus. That's awful, too. And kinda inexplicable. I can understand her wanting to be on her own, but this seems irrational.

Stay strong, Sallyh. She'll come to her senses eventually.


GravatarOh, Sally, that sucks. I'm so sorry. Don't know what to say...


GravatarThat's awful Sallyh, I hope things turn around real soon.


Gravatar(or find a way through the BF-BS firewall)


GravatarGoddess, I loathe and despise Rethuglicans/

Is there no relief?

Please, some baslance, or we'll be at the point where "biology alone prevailsd" and cockroaches inherit the Earth.


GravatarOther Sarah--with your consent, that's going into Cooking Liberally II.


GravatarI believe that God does hear our prayers, just so he can laugh his almighty ass off.


Gravataroh, they're pretty good, fried up nice and crispy on a tortilla, with a nice green chili.

JJ Audoubon said that dog was the best meat he'd ever eaten. And he's eaten every critter that flys, swims or walks on this continent.



Hey Sallyh, we missed you tonight.


GravatarDon't let SWR see that recipe. We'll never hear the end of it.


GravatarPlease, some baslance, or we'll be at the point where "biology alone prevailsd" and cockroaches inherit the Earth.

Um, I hate to break it to you...


GravatarChavez rocked the UN but the mindless idiots who seem to write a lot for the Daily Show will just do a stupid cheap "crazy foreigner" joke with it, if they notice at all.


GravatarCentral--I seem to be missing a lot lately.


GravatarActually, I think Dracula 3000 is rerunning right now. Will it give me some cheap laughs?

I could use some cheap laughs.


GravatarMy daughter doesn't want to see my husband or me. Well, at least according to her bf.


sallyh, god-DAMN hormones, which fuck so many of us up so terribly in our young years.

Please accept from me good, strong hugs. Arms around you, dearheart.


Gravatar Actually, I think Dracula 3000 is rerunning right now. Will it give me some cheap laughs?

I could use some cheap laughs.


Ohhh yes.


GravatarSallyh, is it possible that the bf is full of shit? I know my ex-husband used to tell my family/friends that I didn't want to talk to them, part of the control thing...


Gravatarthere is no other dracula than tanmaster hamilton


GravatarSallyh,

She'll be back, mark my words. The "impetuousness of youth" and all that.

{{{hugs}}}}


GravatarThanks guys. Monsieur says leave her be. He says don't talk to her.

In the meantime, my guts are totally ripped to shreds.


Gravatar Sallyh, is it possible that the bf is full of shit?

He didn't sound like a real high-character guy, being a criminal and all...


GravatarThanks other Sarah, the place I'm going to might have a busy kitchen. But your recipe is making me hungry now.


GravatarThinlyVeiled--he was the one that told me.

Monsieur says he's lying.

Me, I have lost all capacity to be my rational self.


GravatarAll you can do at this point, is to be there for her when she's ready to talk to you again.

And try to not be a "jewish" mother in law, even if you have to grit to teeth to do so.


GravatarI could use some cheap laughs.

One sec, my dear, while I get a few more of these cheap beers in me. And I'll give you a laugh that will Zzzzzzzzzzzz




What??!? I'm awake! I am! What did I miss? What happened?


GravatarMonsieur says he's lying.

Is there anyway to reach her somewhere away from him?


GravatarSally

I know a guy who knows a guy...if you know what I mean


GravatarSallyh,
cool by me. Get the carnitas one off the monster thread below too, though. They're kinda like a set.


Gravatardumb question. what add on software such as AV (though I've already got one of those) that would be considered as necessary and required? This is on an XP system.


GravatarMonsieur says he's lying.

Well, I don't know Monsieur, but if your taste in men is as good as I think it is, he's probably right. What are the chances of you being able to get in touch with your daughter when the bf is not around? Like I said, my ex kept me cut off from my kin, against my will, for a good long time with shit like that.


Gravatardoug, a non-microsoft firewall and anti-spyware and maybe some music software other than WM


GravatarThinly Veiled--they live with his grandma (who is really a nice lady), but I've been told I am not allowed to call there. The only way I'm allowed to get in touch with her is via the bf's cell phone.

Not likely.


Gravatardumb question. what add on software such as AV (though I've already got one of those) that would be considered as necessary and required? This is on an XP system.

PornMeister 2005. Indispensable!

Why do you ask?


GravatarOne of the more transparent aspects of President Bush's speech from New Orleans last night was its cynical outreach to African-Americans. Trying to break the stereotype of his administration and his party as modern day Confederates, Bush spoke eloquently of race and poverty in the Katrina disaster. Unfortunately, Bush's makeover as born-again racial healer simply isn’t credible, given his own penchant for racial stereotypes...

For the full story, see:

"The Bush Speech in Black and White."


GravatarI think that I would be renaming the bf to the fbf.


GravatarMatthew--my da had friends in the Westies and friends of their friends...and he'd hire them for clients that stiffed him


GravatarThe only way I'm allowed to get in touch with her is via the bf's cell phone.

Very dodgy. Does she not have an e-mail address?


GravatarOh and Bruce -- you can make 'em ahead -- carry 'em on a cookie sheet with foil over the top; if traveling very far, insulate with the Sunday paper.


GravatarThe only way I'm allowed to get in touch with her is via the bf's cell phone.

Oh, BULLMOTHERFUCKINGSHIT. Come on, we're going over there right now. I'll drive. Seriously, fuck that.


GravatarI believe that God does hear our prayers, just so he can laugh his almighty ass off.
Another Bruce | 09.18.05 - 12:51 am | #

That reminds me of the comic with God sitting up on a cloud, with prayers as thought balloons all around him, all with some version of the "please don't let her be pregnant" plea


GravatarWhen is bill clinton going to get the wanker of the year award he so richly deserves.

The former US president, who held his conference to coincide with the United Nations summit in New York, agreed that the BBC's coverage was lacking.

While the BBC's reports on the hurricane were factually accurate, its presentation was "stacked up" to criticize President George W Bush's handling of the disaster, Clinton said.

"There is nothing factually inaccurate. But ... it was designed to be almost exclusively a hit on the federal response, without showing what anybody at any level was doing that was also miraculous, going on simultaneously in a positive way," Clinton said.


The whole piece: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/ 2005...HNlYwMlJVRPUCUl


GravatarThe Other Sarah

God-DAMN, woman, you cook. Well. Deliciously.

You like to eat, you have taste buds.

Hat's off to you.


Gravatardoug-

Microsoft AntiSpyware
SpywareBlaster
SpyeareGuard
Spybot Search&Destroy
Ad-Aware

All are freeware


Gravatar When is bill clinton going to get the wanker of the year award he so richly deserves.

There's a whole cityful of water to carry...


GravatarPornMeister 2005. Indispensable!

for my wife?


GravatarDamn fingers
SpyWareGuard


GravatarIs the current occupant in the White House aware of the The Posse Comitatus Act of 1878?

SEC. 15. From and after the passage of this act it shall not be lawful to employ any part of the Army of the United States, as a posse comitatus, or otherwise, for the purpose of executing the laws, except in such cases and under such circumstances as such employment of said force may be expressly authorized by the Constitution or by act of Congress; and no money appropriated by this act shall be used to pay any of the expenses incurred in the employment of any troops in violation of this section And any person willfully violating the provisions of this section shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor and on conviction thereof shall be punished by fine not exceeding ten thousand dollars or imprisonment not exceeding two years or by both such fine and imprisonment


GravatarSallyh,

It is entirely possible that she is doind this of her own volition. However, to hear that she is not permitted to have a cell phone, and the are living with the guys grandma, who forbids you from calling?

Up until you said all that, I would have sided with Monseiur.

No longer. Ass kickin' time has arrived.


GravatarI'm with TV, Sally. Driver over there and talk to the g/mother. Tell her what her darling boy is up to. Then sit quietly in the parlor, enjoy a tall, cool lemonade with her and wait for the daughter to show up.

Slap the boyfriend (hard) and tell him if he ever tries that shit again, you'll burn his pubes off while he's still wearing 'em.

Tell your daughter you love her, she needs to think straight, and that you're always there for her. Tell her to come home and get some real love and caring.

Then slap the boyfriend again. What is this punk doing for work, btw? And is your daughter working?


Gravatar PornMeister 2005. Indispensable!

It's kind of like that little paper clip character from MS Word, but not quite...

"You like you're enjoying some porn. Do you need any assistance? Yes/No"


GravatarWill 'Prince of Darkness' provide any good chuckles?


GravatarI'm about to have a "Terry Fox" moment.

Bear with me people....


GravatarNo longer. Ass kickin' time has arrived.
That's what I'm saying. I wouldn't believe a word of it until I heard directly from her, with him nowhere near. Been there, done that, have the healed fractures to fucking prove it.


GravatarRipley, David--I'm not very big (as David can attest to). How much does it cost to hire you guys for ass kicking?


Gravatarhealed fractures?
` `
raised eyebrows.


GravatarDoug,

In addition to AV software.

A linksys, netgear, or some other hardware firewall.

Plus:

Spybot S&D

Ad Aware

Microsoft Anti-Spy


Run all three of those programs regularly to keep spyware, tracking cookies, and other malicious items off of your PC.

Also, run the AV scan weekly.


GravatarI've been walking around outside for awhile tonight and all I can say is:


Oh, I’m bein’ followed by a moonshadow, moonshadow, moonshadow
Leapin and hoppin’ on a moonshadow, moonshadow, moonshadow

And if I ever lose my hands, lose my plough, lose my land,
Oh if I ever lose my hands, oh if.... I won’t have to work no more.
And if I ever lose my eyes, if my colours all run dry,
Yes if I ever lose my eyes, oh if.... I won’t have to cry no more.

And if I ever lose my legs, I won’t moan, and I won’t beg,
Yes if I ever lose my legs, oh if.... I won’t have to walk no more.
And if I ever lose my mouth, all my teeth, north and south,
Yes if I ever lose my mouth, oh if.... I won’t have to talk...

Did it take long to find me? I asked the faithful light.
Did it take long to find me? and are you gonna stay the night?
Cat Stevens


Gravatar Ripley, David--I'm not very big (as David can attest to). How much does it cost to hire you guys for ass kicking?
Can't speak for anyone else, but I'll do it for free. This guy sounds like a real twatlint, and I've got a mean strak a mile long.


Gravatar Sarah Deere | Email | 09.18.05 - 1:04 am | #

[blushes furiously]
Thanks.


GravatarEli, guys--there's one problem. I don't know her address. And she won't give it to me. I asked if I could visit her. Dead silence.


Gravatar healed fractures?
My ex-husband was (is) a mean drunk.


GravatarOh and Bruce -- you can make 'em ahead

I was hoping you would say that, thanks.


Gravatar Will 'Prince of Darkness' provide any good chuckles?

Not too many, although there are some wisecracks. It's actually not too bad, and has some genuinely creepy moments.


GravatarAnd he wasn't any too pleasant sober, either.


GravatarEli, guys--there's one problem. I don't know her address. And she won't give it to me. I asked if I could visit her. Dead silence.

That ain't good. Do you mean her physical address or her e-mail address, or both?


GravatarOther Sarah is bound to become a legend in Eschaton cookery.


GravatarSallyh,

Sounds like ThinlyVeiled would be more than a match for the twat.


GravatarWell, it seems like a dumb question about the software, but I've been in the nix world so long that I've almost forgotten about the windows stuff.

Av software for me is just something to look hard at binaries that have come over the ethernet link to the net. (and that's got redundant dedicated firewalls. Cisco, + a small BSD box)


GravatarWhen is bill clinton going to get the wanker of the year award he so richly deserves.

Man, What is the guy supposed to do. Beat Bush over the head with a Lousiville Slugger in the Oval Office?

Clinton is trying to help. Clinton doesn't need to do this. Maybe he's a genuine human being with feelings and is smart enough to know when to keep his mouth shut. Lets focus on the problem (Bush and his cronies) and not Clinton.


GravatarSallyh:

Granny got a name?

http://zabasearch.com/


GravatarNow if I can just learn to turn off tags ....


GravatarSallyh, that really stinks. I'm so sorry to hear about all this crap you're going through. I tend to agree with those who think that the fbf is trying to isolate your daughter from you and her dad. Until you hear the stuff from her lips when the fbd is nowhere around at all, I'd be very skeptical. He sounds like a controller to me.

But if it really is her I also think that this too will pass. Youth can be thoughtless, too.


GravatarThinly Veiled--found her on there.

I knew the basic neighborhood. Now I've got an address.

I was told that I was not allowed to call there or come over, however.


GravatarSome late night fun with google:

http://www.google.com/search?cli...=UTF-8&oe=UTF- 8


GravatarI was told that I was not allowed to call there or come over, however.

Doesn't specify any of us/


Gravatar...they live with his grandma (who is really a nice lady), but I've been told I am not allowed to call there. The only way I'm allowed to get in touch with her is via the bf's cell phone.

Fuck that shit. Show up. Make a scene. A big fucking scene. BTW, is BF still using? If so, bring a cop. If your daughter gets caught in the net, too fucking bad.

The boyfriend is a typical controlling criminal. Your daughter, forgive my saying so, is stupid. If she's determined to fuck up her life, that's her perogative. But don't be intimidated by this prick into staying silent. Get in his fucking face. For your own piece of mind.


GravatarBTW, the best time to really fuck with drug-using criminal types is between 6 and 7 am on a Sunday morning.

Just saying...


GravatarIncog, Carefull when you hum that song. Big Brother may be listening. You know how dangerous old Yusuf is now. All of that Peace Train stuff can get you thrown in the slammer.


GravatarSally - call the cops, give them the cell phone number, tell them you haven't heard from your daughter in X days and this is is the last contact number you had. Ask them if they'll give you the address after they talk to him.

When he calls up screaming, you can very politely remind him that she was your daughter before he met her and you'd like to speak to her. Tell her to call from a payphone, whatever, but she needs to contact you.


Gravatar Thinly Veiled--found her on there.

I knew the basic neighborhood. Now I've got an address.

I was told that I was not allowed to call there or come over, however.


What are they gonna do, beat you up? I'd show up with Monsieur, if he's willing, and/or a couple of large, healthy male "friends" and ask to speak to my daughter. Alone. From experience, once faced with another male, the puke will back down. Guaranteed. Where are you located? Maybe I know someone... When I used to work at the shelter, we had a couple of guys who would go with the women to their homes to retrieve their belongings; might be able to put you in touch with someone who could help.


GravatarI was told that I was not allowed to call there or come over, however.

It's a free country and LA has many lovely streets to drive down. Also, you're older than he is, you can drive wtf you want to.

What's he gonna do about it?


Gravatardoug--that's true. She didn't say you guys couldn't come over


Gravatardave--I don't think either of them are using. But he is an ex con. And a recent one. (released from prison 6/2005)

And yes, my daughter is an idiot.


Gravatarsallyh,
yep -- dave's got it square-d nailed.
y'all need any help?


GravatarAnybody hear what Bill Cosby had to say at the Jazz Benefit at the Lincoln Center tonight?

It's playing again and I'm recording it.

The transcript of his statements must be widely diseminated.

If this get major media attention, the Rove administration is toast!


Gravatar Anybody hear what Bill Cosby had to say at the Jazz Benefit at the Lincoln Center tonight?

What's the gist of it? I assume it's not that BushCo. are wonderful, hard-working people....


GravatarWe had to switch to 'Volcano.' 'Prince of Darkness' wasn't funny.


Gravatar Anybody hear what Bill Cosby had to say at the Jazz Benefit at the Lincoln Center tonight?

I missed it. Good stuff, eh?


GravatarT-bones cooked and eaten. Too big but, yum. (4.99/lb)

Philly Cheese steak Samwitches soon to come.

Nite all.

(gonna sit out with the cat and see how drunk I can get, life is good, on a Sat nite)

.


GravatarSallyh if you can get it "Shall we Dance" is good.


GravatarAnybody hear what Bill Cosby had to say at the Jazz Benefit at the Lincoln Center tonight?

Was it on PBS?


GravatarT-bones cooked and eaten. Too big but, yum. (4.99/lb)

I'm avoiding the kitchen right now.

Most of it is stacked and the dishwasher has ran twice, but there's still a huge pile of stuff to be washed.


GravatarActually, he didn't have to mention any names. He just talked about "The People" and those other people whose job it is to serve "The People." And about those people who don't vote.

And about doing the reconstruction "Right" - "For the People"

I doubt if he memorized anything... but he nailed it, and them.


GravatarSallyh, oh, sharper than a serpent's tooth, our children, sometimes.

Get her away from the ex-con.

Jesus. How much pain can a parent be expected to endure? Children.

Again, big hugs to you, dear one.


Gravatar"There is nothing factually inaccurate. But ... it was designed to be almost exclusively a hit on the federal response, without showing what anybody at any level was doing that was also miraculous, going on simultaneously in a positive way," Clinton said.

This is keeping his mouth shut? This is carrying water for the bush crime family.


GravatarNot political, but interesting...


GravatarI'm just tired of being blamed for all my daughter's misery. Bf said, listen, we had a great day, we got a TV and a computer today, and then she talks to you and she's all upset. She doesn't want to see you because every time you talk to her, you browbeat her.


GravatarAnd yes, my daughter is an idiot.

Well, we know she didn't get it from your side of the family!


GravatarYes PBS

I'll hope my old vcr still records. I haven't used it in years.

Cosby's segment is near the end, so if you tune in now, it will be an hour or longer before he comes on in the re-run of the show,


GravatarRobin Williams riff from the Higher Ground benefit today

Hehehe

Scroll down a bit - under Highlights of the Night


GravatarGood night moonbats. My pillow is beckoning me.

We'll meet again, don't know where, don't know when
But I'm sure we'll meet again some sunny day
Keep smiling through, just the way you used to do
Till the blue skies chase the dark clouds far away


GravatarSallyh, you can't do anything until your daughter lets you. She's an adult, legally. Keep your dignity, hang tough, and be ready if and when she changes.

Sorry I can't be more encouraging. Be strong.


GravatarBf said, listen, we had a great day, we got a TV and a computer today, and then she talks to you and she's all upset.

Your daughter isn't stupid then.

She'll figure it out soon.


GravatarBf said, listen, we had a great day, we got a TV and a computer today, and then she talks to you and she's all upset. She doesn't want to see you because every time you talk to her, you browbeat her.

That's classic abuser patter. Classic technique, too: isolate the woman, intercept all communications, make her feel dependent on him.

Show up and make a scene. Your daughter will side with him, but don't let him think you don't have him pegged. Contact a woman's shelter for professional guidance.


GravatarJesus Sallyh, this fucker is a serial liar. Abusive people are experts at making other people feel worthless.


GravatarFrom way way upthread...
>TOW, there's a stock stuck to your butt.
One of life's embarrassing moments: Going to work one day (late, as usual) with a pair of underwear static-clinging out of the bottom of my pantleg. Of course, no one said anything....<

I used to tell people if they had a booger in their nose....but I worked with engineers who always resented my comment. So I adopted a new practice. I would instead tell everyone around so that they would be watching when the asshole discovered it...and they would see what he did with it. Delicious!


GravatarNo. 6 Florida held fifth-ranked Tennessee scoreless in the second half, took advantage of three special teams errors and won 16-7 Saturday night to give Meyer a resounding victory in his Southeastern Conference debut.

Meyer was hired by Florida for his innovative offensive mind, but maybe his defense and special teams should have been getting all the hype.

"That was two sledgehammers swinging at each other all night," Meyer said of a game controlled by the defenses.

The Gators had lost three of the last four against the Volunteers, including two in a row at Florida Field. They ended that streak and got an early edge in the Eastern Division race.


GravatarThat's classic abuser patter. Classic technique, too: isolate the woman, intercept all communications, make her feel dependent on him.

Show up and make a scene. Your daughter will side with him, but don't let him think you don't have him pegged. Contact a woman's shelter for professional guidance.

Yep. I lived with one like that for ten fucking years. I sat and prayed for my mother to show up and do just that...


GravatarThe Robin Williams clip... I couldn't find "Highlights of the Night"

Maybe it was scrubbed?


GravatarBf said, listen, we had a great day, we got a TV and a computer today, and then she talks to you and she's all upset. She doesn't want to see you because every time you talk to her, you browbeat her.

It's not his place to do this. If she is an adult she should tell you herself. That he intervenes is not healthy. The average boyfriend might feel awkward if the girlfriend's mother and the girlfriend were arguing and he might take sides but he wouldn't be the gatekeeper this way.


GravatarAnd after I got out of there, I volunteered at a woman's shelter for several years. First piece of advice they'd give is: Don't let him cut you off from her.


GravatarI think the real issue is that she isn't ready to hear us yet.


GravatarI found it. On the left... I was scrolling down and missed it.


GravatarYour mileage may vary, sallyh, but if I were in your situation I'd contact some people who are experts in this kind of stuff. I'd also get someone to talk to about everything. It's a big burden for you, and talking about what to do and how to act and so on could be helpful in staying strong.


GravatarNo. 6 Florida held fifth-ranked Tennessee scoreless in the second half, took advantage of three special teams errors and won 16-7 Saturday night to give Meyer a resounding victory in his Southeastern Conference debut.

That's very interesting, but Miami beat Clemson in triple OT. Florida has not beaten Miami since 1763.


GravatarSally, I guarantee you that if he's sitting there telling you she doesn't want to talk to you, he's turning right around and telling her the same thing about you. "See, no one cares about you but me. Your mother never calls, she doesn't come to see you. I'm the only thing you've got." Believe me, I've seen and heard it all before...


GravatarI think the real issue is that she isn't ready to hear us yet.

*Yet*.


She will.


Gravatar The Robin Williams clip... I couldn't find "Highlights of the Night"

Maybe it was scrubbed?


Highlights from Higher Ground Benefit

Under Norah Jones' face it should say Highlights of the Night. 6th link down in that column. "A Robin Williams Riff"


GravatarSallyh, talk to some people at a womens shelter. There are people there who'd be able to tell you what you could or could not do.


GravatarSorry, BS, didn't see your follow up post.


GravatarThat's very interesting, but Miami beat Clemson in triple OT. Florida has not beaten Miami since 1763.

how dare you lie, sir!


GravatarI will talk to a woman's shelter and get advice from them. Clearly I am out of my depth here. I appreciate everyone's love and support while I bore you all to death with my misery.

Thinly Veiled, your RL experience is deeply appreciated.


GravatarSallyh,

My heart goes out to you.



Tomorrow is another day.


GravatarClearly I am out of my depth here.

No, it's your daughter.

This guy is nothing to you. Not a damned thing. He's meaningless. His wishes and his wants are farts in a summer breeze, as far as you're concerned. What self-respecting bf wouldn't tell a girl to at least talk to her mother.

Fuck him. Fuck him and his little games and his ego. Go see your daughter because she's Your daughter, not his pet.


GravatarSallyh,

Please listen to what I believe ius the excellent advice you have gotten today from people who have Been There w/abusive relationships.

IUt's so easy to fall into, even the sanest of u s - because we can;t imagine the lengths to which the fucking nuts will go to hard someone else.

Stick in there. Get the advice others have suggested from groups who asre in the know about this stuff.

It's like (imagine this) she's gotten sucked in by GW Bush, who I see as the biggest and baddest serial abuser of them all.

Get her back. You can do it!! But you will need help, which you know how to seek and use.

Hugs - and my very best wishes.


GravatarGot it. Williams pretty funny as usual, but not as powerful as "The Cos'" words.

I gotta get a transcript and send it to my servants... those "People" whose job it is to serve "The People." And send a copy to all the local radio stations and TV stations... newspapers etc.

Late here... in the morning....


GravatarSally, if there is anything at all that I can do, please email me. Seriously, I worked at a shelter here for several years, I'm sure I can still get in touch with people. The people at these places are all very experienced, compassionate, and willing to do whatever it takes to help someone out of a bad situation.

And please know, I haven't said what I've said to try to scare you at all, but when you mentioned the thing about him speaking for her, etc., all the red flags went up. I've been through it myself, and I've tried to help other women through it, and these characters all follow the same sick pattern. It really is like a disease; easily diagnosed. I just don't want to see your daughter have to go through what I went through before she gets help. ((((Hugs))))


Gravatarand,darn it!!! my wretched typos!!! apologies!!!


Gravatar"In the meantime, my guts are totally ripped to shreds.
Sallyh"

Go easy on yourself, Sallyh. It ain't over. Why trust the bf? Create a picture, a vision, of both of you happy and at peace together.

Of authenticity...


Gravatarand,darn it!!! my wretched typos!!! apologies!!!

Oh, really.

We're all friends here.


GravatarWe're all friends here.

Sure, bring that up, ya bastard!


GravatarThrough all this, Monsieur seems to be able to stay rational.

so why can't I?

Usually I'm the one that stays calm, but something about my daughter pushes my buttons.


GravatarOr not....



GravatarYeah, we're all fiends here.


GravatarUsually I'm the one that stays calm, but something about my daughter pushes my buttons.
Sallyh |

Because she is the heart of your heart, perhaps?

SD


Gravatar(((salllyh)))

Good night, moonbats.


GravatarRipley

That's all right ripley. I'm at the end of your block with the ***dogs***. They'll be staring at you all night.

not really, sitting in a warm home on a rainy night. I have no intention of leaving it.


GravatarUsually I'm the one that stays calm, but something about my daughter pushes my buttons.
Because you're a Good Mom, and you know your kid's in trouble, you know things aren't right, and you feel compelled to jump to her aid. Completely normal.


GravatarFUCK BUSH!


GravatarThat's very interesting, but Miami beat Clemson in triple OT. Florida has not beaten Miami since 1763.

how dare you lie, sir!


Well, 1985. Miami is 6-0 against Florida since then.


GravatarGoogle "failure".



GravatarSallyh,

She's your only child, right?


My mother's dealt with six of us, and sometimes I'm amazed that she's still alive, let alone sane.


GravatarThat's all right ripley. I'm at the end of your block with the ***dogs***. They'll be staring at you all night.

I'd kill for a couple dogs right now. I miss the ex-gf's dogs.

I'd kill for a couple hot dogs, too. I might have to run next door and see what the Quikee Mart has burning.


GravatarWe're all friends here.
Central Scrutinizer

thank you, dear. That makes me teary-eyed. Why? Because I know it's true, even though you guys don't know me from a jar of Vicks, I know you extend trust and the hand of friendship, and I am both humbled and honored by that gesture.

Thank you ALL.


Gravatarthank you, dear. That makes me teary-eyed. Why? Because I know it's true, even though you guys don't know me from a jar of Vicks, I know you extend trust and the hand of friendship, and I am both humbled and honored by that gesture.

Mmm... Vicks...

Or a jar of bigvics, for that matter.

Mmm... bigvics...


GravatarThank you ALL.

Peace and love to you.

We're all in this together.


GravatarWell, all, it's been swell, but it's getting really late. The old man's in the living room, watching *ack* the History Channel. I feel it's my duty to go distract him. Sally, seriously, if you need anything, let me know; happy to help any way I can.


Gravatareven though you guys don't know me from a jar of Vicks

OOOOUCH!

Too true...

Man that stings.


GravatarI meant that we're all frieds, not fiends. Damned typos!


Gravatareven though you guys don't know me from a jar of Vicks

OOOOUCH!

Too true...

Man that stings.


I'm sure she menthol of that in a very positive way.


GravatarCentral--she is my only baby.


GravatarSallyh, Yes do consult with us. Sometimes just having someone to talk things over with can change the circumstance from like BEING in a horror movie, to a place where you've just got to go through some necessary steps. Tedious, but not near as frightning.


GravatarIf Nagin and the other morons weren't going to respond to the facts on the ground and recognize that people were not coming prepared to the Superdome, then they should be strung up. People want to bitch about governmental incompetence? Let them start with the dumbasses in New Orleans and Baton Rouge.


Gravatar I meant that we're all frieds, not fiends. Damned typos!

Eli is a boileds. Ripley is a steweds.


GravatarFunny line from AP story:

"The Wal-Mart store in uptown New Orleans, built within the last year, survived the storm but was destroyed by looters.

"They took everything - all the electronics, the food, the bikes," said John Stonaker, a Wal-Mart security officer. "People left their old clothes on the floor when they took new ones. The only thing left are the country-and-western CDs. You can still get a Shania Twain album."


GravatarI'm sure she menthol of that in a very positive way.
Eli

hee hee...not even gonna try to pun my way outta that one. Not my forte.

But, yeah, I did menthol that in a very positive way! :-D


GravatarDrink bleach, Toby, you absolute fucking moron.


Gravatartalking about creatures from a horror show, one of Wes Craven's early ones.


GravatarSallyh,

I made my mom crazy, I probably still do.

She'll be back, and much wiser.


GravatarEli is a boileds. Ripley is a steweds

Finally, the respect we deserve!


GravatarI'm thinking of mailing Mademoiselle her cell phone. We took it from her, but I'm tempted to send it to her, with a note to stay safe and to let us know if she changes her number, and to call us if she needs us.


GravatarThe only thing left are the country-and-western CDs. You can still get a Shania Twain album."
Steve J. |

HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABWAHAHAHAHAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


Gravatarhee hee...not even gonna try to pun my way outta that one. Not my forte.

Just as well. Trying to pun on "eucalyptus" probably would have given me a mild stroke.


GravatarEli is a boileds. Ripley is a steweds

Finally, the respect we deserve!


Zere vere drei peanuts, valking down ze strasse. And vun vas assaulted... peanut.


GravatarSallyh, Remember there is always hope. Always.

"Hope" is the thing with feathers –
That perches in the soul –
And sings the tune without the words –
And never stops – at all –
And sweetest – in the Gale – is heard –
And sore must be the storm –
That could abash the little Bird
That kept so many warm –

I've heard it in the chillest land –
And on the strangest Sea –
Yet, never, in Extremity,
It asked a crumb – of Me.

Emily Dickinson


GravatarHey Toby, is something bothering you?


GravatarNagin and Blanco should be charged criminally for causing the deaths and chaos in New Orleans.


GravatarEucalyptus in the parking lot but it's just a scratch. No need to koala the police and get the insurance companies involved.


GravatarTrying to pun on "eucalyptus" probably would have given me a mild stroke.

Ahhh, "eucalyptus" is as kryptonite to the pun-king.

Noted.


GravatarHey, y'all,

I posted this at the very end of that long, long open thread below, but I figure I'll repeat it here.

I decided to kill Blah3's members-only comments and hack the code to use Haloscan. So if you guys want to come to my place and yell at me, now you can!

Okay, that's it. Gonna finish my can of Pepsi and go to sleep. I'm all boob-eyed from looking at php crap all night.


GravatarThe only thing left are the country-and-western CDs. You can still get a Shania Twain album."

Well, the bargain hunters of New Orleans certainly have impeccable taste.


Gravatar Nagin and Blanco should be charged criminally for causing the deaths and chaos in New Orleans.

Bush should take more guitar lessons and watch his carbs.


GravatarBush and cabinet should be charged criminally for the deaths and chaos in NOLA.


GravatarIt's funny how they show up in teams.....

Is Gary Toby's "significant other"?


Gravatar Bush and cabinet should be charged criminally for the deaths and chaos in NOLA.

Whoa, let's not be hasty now!

These are *Republicans* you're talking about. Christians, too!


GravatarThe only thing left are the country-and-western CDs. You can still get a Shania Twain album."

Well, the bargain hunters of New Orleans certainly have impeccable taste.


It certainly does seem to present a pricing dilemma for the store manager...


GravatarQuikee Mart hot dogs are calling my name. Back in a few.


GravatarThese are *Republicans* you're talking about. Christians, too!

Ok, we'll read them a nice bedtime story from "Readers Digest" just before we throw them to the lions.


GravatarWhen Fascism Comes to America it will look like Toby Petzold


GravatarI can't tell you how much I'm starting to hate abusive controllers like Rupert who think they know it all and are entitled to tell the fucking planet how to behave. What's your fucking problem? Do you not get that one of the functions of government is to provide for the general welfare? What part of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness do you not understand?


GravatarI hereby denounce Ripley for crimes against the National Day of Prayer.


GravatarWhat part of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness do you not understand?

All of it, except maybe "and" and "of".


GravatarBlanco says feds pledged buses
By MICHELLE MILLHOLLON
mmillhollon@theadvocate.com
Capitol news bureau
http://www.2theadvocate.com/ stor...blanco001.shtml

Nearly three weeks after Hurricane Katrina raged ashore, Gov. Kathleen Blanco still wants one question answered.

Where were the buses?

Hours after the hurricane hit Aug. 29, the Federal Emergency Management Agency announced a plan to send 500 commercial buses into New Orleans to rescue thousands of people left stranded on highways, overpasses and in shelters, hospitals and homes.

On the day of the storm, or perhaps the day after, FEMA turned down the state's suggestion to use school buses because they are not air conditioned, Blanco said Friday in an interview.

Even after levees broke and residents were crowding the Louisiana Superdome, then-FEMA Director Mike Brown was bent on using his own buses to evacuate New Orleans, Blanco said.

During the delay, misery and mayhem mounted in the Dome, thousands gathered in desperation at the nearby convention center, and Americans watched in shock as dead and dying New Orleans residents were broadcast on national television.

The state had sent 68 school buses into the city on Monday.

Blanco took over more buses from Louisiana school systems and sent them in on Wednesday, two days after the storm. She tapped the National Guard to drive them. Each time the buses emptied an area, more people would appear, she said.

The buses took 15,728 people to safety, a Blanco aide said. But the state's fleet of school buses wasn't enough. On Wednesday, with the FEMA buses still not in sight, Blanco called the White House to talk to Bush and ended up speaking to Chief of Staff Andy Card.

"I said, 'Even if we had 500 buses, they've underestimated the magnitude of this situation, and I think I need 5,000 buses, not 500,'" Blanco recounted.

"'But, Andy, those 500 are not here,'" the governor said.

Card promised to get Blanco more buses.

Later Wednesday night, Blanco walked into the State Police Communications Center and asked if anyone knew anything about the buses.

An officer told her the buses were just entering the state.

"I said, 'Do you mean as in North Louisiana, which is another six hours from New Orleans?,'" Blanco recalled in the interview. "He said, 'Yes, m'am.'"

It was at that point, Blanco said, that she realized she had made a critical error.

"I assumed that FEMA had staged their buses in near proximity," she said. "I expected them to be out of the storm's way but accessible in one day's time."

It was late Wednesday. The buses wouldn't get to New Orleans until Thursday. By then, many of the sickest and the weakest were dead or dying.

The buses weren't the only resource to arrive late, Blanco said.

It took days to get a communications system and outside troops. In the first days after the hurricane hit, Louisiana National Guard communicated by sending text messages on cell phones.

etc.
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Gravatar I hereby denounce Ripley for crimes against the National Day of Prayer.

Are you, like, the Papal Denuncio or something?


GravatarI hereby denounce Ripley for crimes against the National Day of Prayer.

I pray that the selfish bastard pays for this, he did say he was going to get hot dogs, right?


GravatarIt was at that point, Blanco said, that she realized she had made a critical error.

Trusting the Bush administration is *always* a critical error.


GravatarHave some nice tasty berries, Toby and Gary Ruppert. They are very sweet.
http://static.flickr.com/21/ 3112..._3624615643.jpg


GravatarIf right wingers want to live their lives in a certain way, fine. But get the fuck out of mine!


Gravatar Have some nice tasty berries, Toby and Gary Ruppert. They are very sweet.

They're all red and everything!


GravatarI love you people almost as much as I love sleep.

Almost.

G'night ya'll moonbats.


GravatarThanks Central, hugs.


GravatarI hereby announce that I denounce Eli for crimes against my right to announce that I denounce Ripley for crimes against the National Day of Prayer.


GravatarIf right wingers want to live their lives in a certain way, fine. But get the fuck out of mine!

No, right wingers want everybody to live a certain way. Minding their own business is the one thing they cannot do.


GravatarOn the day of the storm, or perhaps the day after, FEMA turned down the state's suggestion to use school buses because they are not air conditioned, Blanco said Friday in an interview

Quick someone give Hannity a call. He's all fired up about the busses. Just wait till he hears that FEMA fucked up that one as well.


GravatarThe National Day of Prayer--for evangelical Protestants who want to further the theofascistic agenda only.

What a fucking farce.


Gravatar The National Day of Prayer--for evangelical Protestants who want to further the theofascistic agenda only.

Yep. If the founders were told that the prseident would someday announce a national day of Prayer, they would have just chucked the whole democracy thing right there and then.


Gravatar I hereby denounce Ripley for crimes against the National Day of Prayer.

I've returned. And in the name of God, I denounce your denunciation!


err.. in the name of dogs, and what have you...


GravatarYep. If the founders were told that the prseident would someday announce a national day of Prayer, they would have just chucked the whole democracy thing right there and then.
Thers


Amen.


GravatarI announce that I denounce the announcement of my denunciation.


GravatarRipley--what's new at the Quickee Mart? Apu working the late shift?


GravatarI'm thinking of mailing Mademoiselle her cell phone. We took it from her, but I'm tempted to send it to her, with a note to stay safe and to let us know if she changes her number, and to call us if she needs us.
Sallyh

Not a bad idea, IMHO.

SD


Gravatar Ripley--what's new at the Quickee Mart? Apu working the late shift?

"Who needs the Quickee Mart?"

"The floors are sticky, Bart."

"The Quickee Mart is really- D'oh!"


Gravatar Ripley--what's new at the Quickee Mart? Apu working the late shift?

Three of them. One I know and two strangers. I was a little surprised to see so many people working at this hour when suddenly two attractive Polish girls walked in and I forgot all about Apu and his colleagues.

I think I was pretty subtle, though.


GravatarI think I was pretty subtle, though.

Tex Avery subtle?


GravatarThe National Day of Prayer

oh, fucking puh-leeze.

And, on that sour note, g'night 'bats.

Fuck these people and their fucking "prayers". They seem to be mostlt self-serving, eh?

PIDDLY-SQUAT.


GravatarLet me rephrase - did your eyeballs stay inside their sockets, or did they fly out and make A-oogah noises?


Gravatarjust home from the bars- would someone be kind enough to summarize the evening's events?

(strange that my incipient deafness impairs my ability to read, but there you go...)

thanks


GravatarTex Avery subtle?

Well, somewhere between I didn't get their numbers but no stun guns were pulled from their purses.

And lord, were they cute. It's not right, it's just not right.


GravatarSarah--certainly they had nothing to do with those in NOLA, many of whom I'll bet have prayed and prayed and for those that went down, were praying with all their might.


GravatarI'm just a simple paperboy,
No romance do I seek.
I want only fifty cents
For my deliveries this week.
Can this bewitching floozie
Seduce this humble newsie?

Oh, what's a paperboy to...

Doooooooooooooooo?


Gravatarnick--Monsieur, who is deaf in one ear, has complained of the same thing.


GravatarWho designed Oregon's uniforms? And why did he hate humanity so very much?


Gravatar Let me rephrase - did your eyeballs stay inside their sockets

Barely. They were wearing little... well, they were enjoying the warm Autumn evening and looked quite fetching. They seemed quite proud of their tans.


GravatarOh, what's a paperboy to...

Doooooooooooooooo?


Sillyboy.


I'm really leaving now, check out my "Ted Smith" saunter.

Be well.


GravatarInteresting thing about that 'Natioanl Day Of Prayer' - seems a lot of louisiana churches had already done a day of prayer like a week earlier, and refused to participate in Bush's little God Show.

Some church people are smarter than others.


GravatarWell, at least we have our books.


GravatarSallyh,

Hugs, g'night. I haven't one fucking clue what human beans are up to tonight, though I suspect it is "no good" and, for balance, much good.

In the meantime, inbetween time, not only do we got fun, but we will prevail.

Hang tight, dear one.


GravatarStooopit Haloscan. 'National.'

Hey, look! A preview button! What's that for?


Gravatarwell the question is...

is it a real prayer,
or is it,
a sears prayer?


GravatarStranger--NOLA is a city rooted in the Catholic tradition, which is meaningless to Bush. (He's okay with Opus Dei types, but I don't even consider them Catholic)


GravatarThanks, Sarah. Much love.


Gravatarsally: oh hell now you're scaring me... right now my head is pounding because I'm tooo old to be in the bars that draw crowds... & on the other hand, if you're going to town to see people, you have to go where they are, right?


GravatarWho designed Oregon's uniforms? And why did he hate humanity so very much?
Thers


A kind and loving God would never had let that happen.


GravatarNOLA is a city rooted in the Catholic tradition

Yep. My wife hit me with some statistic about there being a very high number of RC churches within the NOLA city limits the other day.

That woman knows all kindsa stuff.


Gravatar well the question is...

is it a real prayer,
or is it,
a sears prayer?


As long as they rebuild New Orleans to remember the troops, I'm good with it.

And it should commemorate something. It's important that people be allowed to commemorate. And remember. And honor.

But mostly commemorate.


GravatarWho designed Oregon's uniforms? And why did he hate humanity so very much?

The color of their uniforms suggest the contents a twenty year old can of spinach.


Gravatarnick--you're probably younger than Monsieur (he's 50). Being in a bar is a good excuse for being unable to see, hear, or otherwise get any senses working.


Gravatarnick--you're probably younger than Monsieur (he's 50). Being in a bar is a good excuse for being unable to see, hear, or otherwise get any senses working.

I have to bring earplugs to Drinking Liberally.

Jukeboxes suck.


GravatarEli--I find loud noise wearying. I can't handle too much of it before I need a quiet spot.


GravatarI'm going to bed. Ripley... sing me out, yo!


GravatarI have to bring earplugs to Drinking Liberally.

Jukeboxes suck.


You're not drinking liberally enough, maybe.


GravatarYou're not drinking liberally enough, maybe.

Well, for one thing, my left eardrum is shot enough that loud noise is physically uncomfortable and aggravates my tinnitus, and for another, it kinda defeats the whole purpose of gathering to BS about stuff when you can't hear anyone who's not either yelling or sitting right next to you.


GravatarThere once was a boy named Thers
A dirty stayout thru and thru
And when his Mum said come back home
He'd go home like a good boy and make his Mum proud

But he'd be muttering under his breath
And all the boys knew it
And they called him Dirty Muttering Thers
And then he went to college and forgot all about them


I think it needs more bass.


GravatarI'm going to try and get some sleep.

thank you all, so very much.


GravatarI was at a wedding dance earlier, and as the dance slowed down the dj cranked the tunes (probably to clear the house). Then I went uptown & in a packed bar with a tin ceiling the jukebox was running about 11.25...from the beginning I only heard about half what was said to me, about an hour in my voice started to go... but I did maintain my ability to subtly ogle the chicks (all of whom seemed to be born about the time I graduated high school)...


Gravatarbut I did maintain my ability to subtly ogle the chicks (all of whom seemed to be born about the time I graduated high school)...

I feel your pain, brother. And man, do I hate wedding receptions. Unless it's open bar, which makes it generally worth the time.


GravatarI'm heading to bed, as well.

Keep merging Left!


GravatarI find loud noise wearying. I can't handle too much of it before I need a quiet spot.

Me, I thrive on noise.

And I'm knocking wood furiously while I say my ears are actually still in pretty good shape.


Gravatargo and read Barbara in Bogalusa at Kos,if you want be even more angry,depressed or just happen to have a spot on the wall you haven't smashed your head into yet.
Good bit: a lot of folks are helping.


GravatarI didn't pray once yesterday.


Just on general principal.


Gravatar4lg --

aisle dew it 4U


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