I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Tis new linen!
Stupid liberal moonbat idiots.
.
I got nothin'.
That's nice David. Now go upstairs and play with your imaginary friends.
Stupid liberal moonbat idiots.
Fuck you, you pussy.
What you got for that?
A shroe, a shroe, my dingkom for a shroe.
Well, trollie's been watching the march on C-SPAN, he's probably beside himself with hate. I mean, did you see all those brown folks pronouncing their "R"s in that weird, Middle Eastern way?
It's time for ignore the troll day!
i'm watchin the feed from 9th St NW & Constitution Ave NW, and can't tell if it's the tail end at this time or the bulk of the crowd has yet to get there...
Hear, hear.
I wonder if there's much partying going on at the protest?
I used to love that part of the demonstrations. Blow a doob, swig some sangria.
Oh, and try and make a little time with the ladies.
Thirteenth.
Does anyone here think that the government's weak response to Katrina might have been a convenient excuse to attempt to suspend the posse comitatus act?
Yo BD -
Whassup, my brother?
Threadheads are very sexy.
convenient excuse to attempt to suspend the posse comitatus act
Well, given that Bush has been yapping about an "expanded role for the military", it makes me kinda nervous about what they intend...
convenient excuse to attempt to suspend the posse comitatus act
And any challenge to executive authority will eventually see its way to the Roberts court.
You can't ignore me. I have the power of God Almighty, which compels you to answer to my comments. You liberal devils will pay. The end times are at hand!!!!!
Sup Billy? Sittin' here baked like a Christmas ham onna lazy Saturday.
You?
Ya know, for the past couple of years, whenever I see Poppy Bush I have a mental picture of him being alone; with his head in his hands; saying "it was supposed to be Jeb! It was supposed to be Jeb!"
What a disappointment Junior must be to any parent.
From: http://stangoff.com/index.php?p=182
I was recently apprised by someone from Belgium of a bizarre and disturbing internet porn-swap. A porn site that is registered in Florida has offered US troops in Iraq free access to sexual pornography (ostensibly pictures of “real wives and girlfriends” a la Hustler’s “Beaver Shots”) in exchange for the more necrophilic brand of pornography — grotesque pictures of war dead, often collected as photographic “trophies” by troops in combat.
At last count, over 100 US troops were participating in this swap. Even more interesting is the fact that the Belgians who discovered this have repreatedly tried to get the US media to pick this story up, but to no avail.
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Perhaps a little more attention is all the media will need before picking this story up?
convenient excuse to attempt to suspend the posse comitatus act
Devastation in the South led to the Act in the first place. Devastation in the South will lead to its demise.
Does Shrubco do any tricks other than irony?
You cannot sit here like a Christmas ham onna lazy Saturday.
The power of Christ compels you to respond to me this very instant!!!!!!
It's spinoza's fault that I wasn't first. Damn you spinoza.
What a disappointment Junior must be to any parent.
Why? I can only imagine how much richer and more powerful they are now than they were in 2000.
Just like a liberal to invoke the name of a third-rate philosopher like Spinoza. The only philosopher that I need to know about is the risen Lord Jesus Christ Almighty (May God Bless His Holy Name).
Meanwhile, the core of the Democratic party is on CSPAN
David McCullough?
You will all burn in hell for persecuting men of God like Tom DeLay and Bill Frist.
The trolls here are pretty untalented.
I was recently apprised by someone from Belgium of a bizarre and disturbing internet porn-swap
There's an article about a similar setup at Common Dreams, about a porn site that's mutating into a war-porn site. Obviously folks have way too much free time over there...
Well, george the incompetent is flying into Austin to pretend to help with the hurricane. It's funny because on CNN they are showing a split screen with AF1 coming down the runway and the hurricane's devastation on the other screen. Like what does one have to do with the other? They might as well show the Philadelphia Mummer's Parade or dogs performing tricks on skateboards because they have as to do with the cleanup as the incompetent one.
The only philosopher that I need to know about is the risen Lord Jesus Christ Almighty (May God Bless His Holy Name).
David Patterson
Yeah? You've read all of the works that Jesus wrote?
I heard about the porn 4 bodies photo swap too. Profoundly disturbing!
is the fact that the Belgians who discovered this have repreatedly tried to get the US media to pick this story up, but to no avail.
Is that the US media making a Belgian waffle?
Well, george the incompetent is flying into Austin to pretend to help with the hurricane.
He had to take Air Force 1 'cause his super-cape is at the cleaner's.
Meanwhile, the core of the Republican party is at the laundramat, washing their sheets.
I watch CSPAN with the sound turned down and with Dark Side of the Moon on my stereo. You should see how it syncs up almost like it means something. I have to do it that way 'cause they use such big words on that goddamn CSPAN.
... Billmon's got it - via The Nation....
Former Democrat Presidential Candidate stands with one of the new idols of the anti-American left
Man with a peace symbol shaved into his chest (smooooth)
It's spinoza's fault that I wasn't first. Damn you spinoza.
I am honored.
Does anyone here think that the government's weak response to Katrina might have been a convenient excuse to attempt to suspend the posse comitatus act?
There are more people reading this sentence than were in attendance at the anti-war rally in DC a few hours ago.
Still, I question the camera angles.
Man with a peace symbol shaved into his chest (smooooth)
At least it's better than football fan face-painting.
I hooked up with our local chapter of Veterans for Peace, so I could actually DO something. We have been collecting relief supplies at a gas station in Mission Viejo and repacking them for shipment directly to hurricane victims in the gulf. Borrowed a friend's pickup to go around to high schools, collecting what the kids have donated. I tell 'em that they are the true heroes of the people.
VFP nationwide has already shipped over 1000 tons of relief supplies
to people in need, and a guy I met who just returned from driving down there said the only obstacles they met in trying to help were FEMA and the National Guard, the control freaks and fear mongers...
Now we are partnering with a black-run relief group, SOS, already there, to reach people. We'll be back up, stronger than before, after Rita settles down. Then our caravans will go back in.
David Patterson-
You calling me a third-rate philosopher? I am going to grind your little eyeballs for that.
I don't have to read the works of Jesus Christ. I've read the whole Left Behind series twice. And I've got New Testament for Dummies.
So to get the accurate count for march attendance, do we just split the organizers' estimates and the MSM estimates? I've seen 100K-300K reported from different sources...
There's more people at the protest with peace symbols shaved into their hair.
I hope.
As for the DC protest, it's probably 100 people or so. Nothing worth covering on CSPAN.
Stole this from Americablog
'George Bush has become a hurricane hunter. Like those pilots who fly into the storm, Bush has been criss-crossing the country looking for the best ways to show that he’s offering a competent and compassionate response to Hurricanes Rita and Katrina.'
Bush trying to look competent. Mission Impossible
Haloscan, you bitch -
convenient excuse to attempt to suspend the posse comitatus act
Well, I could tell in his speech in NOLA that he meant that to be nasty. The way he said it: "I'm hearing you want more federal involvement, well I'll give it to you," was a fucking threat. It really was. I knew what he meant and that was the only part of that speech in which he told the truth and revealed himself for what he is.
"It would be a lot easier if it was a dictatorship. As long as I get to be dictator."
Dream on Commander CooCoo Bananas.
ACCORDING TO THE LEFT:
Bush should have tried to micromanage before Katrina.
Bush shouldn't try to micromanaged before Rita.
Leave it to liberals to be protesting in Washington while our beloved Vice-President is having life-threatening surgery. You guys have no decency. I went to give blood today for Mr. Chaney, but they told me he didn't use the stuff. I bet he uses one of those new synthetic blends.
Haloscan, you bitch -
You have trouble accepting responsibility for your own actions, don't you?
Typical libbie.
Sup Billy? Sittin' here baked like a Christmas ham onna lazy Saturday.
You?
Ba®ndog
Been hanging out here. I puttied and primed an exterior window this am and am waiting on the primer to cure so I can paint the top coat.
NCAA football on in the background.
I'm going to head to the likker store in a few to pick up some brew and work on that buzz, also.
So getting things set up before a disaster is micromanagement. I guess for the gop incompetence is the new black.
I don't have to read the works of Jesus Christ. I've read the whole Left Behind series twice. And I've got New Testament for Dummies.
David Patterson
If this wasn't posted by one of us to make fun of Patterson, then honest to god, there is no fucking use in talking to him. He's a fucking moron.
I saw Howard Dean on television standing next to a black guy. You wouldn't catch President Bush doing something like that. Not unless he owned him. And Condaleeza, because everybody knows the President likes the dark meat.
There's more people at the protest with peace symbols shaved into their hair._
Someone's got a hair fetish.
Bush deferred to Blanco on account of the issue of posse comitatus, and not because of her actual competence.
She is a dolt. She and Nagin should be impeached.
Funny how some new open threads just pick up where the preceding one left off, and others-- like this one-- are utterly disconnected from the previous discussion.
And maggot-infested, to boot.
I won't even bother to repost my laboriously composed long-winded screed deposited below.
Trolls? Phewey. Taste like shit and leave a bad odor.
I should have known the trolls would be here today. Nothing like a major peace protest to get the reich's collective pink panties in a wad.
ACCORDING TO THE LEFT:
Bush should have tried to micromanage before Katrina.
Bush shouldn't try to micromanaged before Rita.
Gary Ruppert
There's a whole world of difference between micro management and preparation. And what we object to isn't his preparaing to respond to Rita it's his using it as a photo-op to compensate for his preious failings.
I found out I had a shop, earlier. Hey, I even started up the not-so-rusty chainsaw. Still runs like a raped ape.
Watch the fuck out, Dave. The target is locked on, and the chain is tight & rusty.
So getting things set up before a disaster is micromanagement. I guess for the gop incompetence is the new black.
sekmet
Racist!
Fucking shit bastards.
Do I fit in now?
True trolls think Spinoza is the greatest of of the antipasti.
What we have here is a pseudo-troll.
Hail.
It was a good screed, Little Brother. I've been pondering the same balance as well, going back to that rancorous Americablog thread.
I hope y'all read EMRosa's list of anti-war rally do's and don'ts over at the Daily Kos. I have a link to it at my blog, too.
Very entertaining.
ACCORDING TO THE LEFT:
Bush shouldn't have hired useless political hacks to run FEMA.
Bush shouldn't have finished the back nine before attending to Hurricane Katrina.
Typical liberals.
There were very few left-liberals there protesting today. Most Americans support Bush, want to stay the course and bring freedom, not make sacrifice of our brave soldiers in vain. And their whining is falling on def ears.
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Little Brother - I'm going to go down to the lower thread and read your long, carefully composed comment.
so there. 
It figures that a racist leftist is trying to steal my name.
"You cannot sit here like a Christmas ham onna lazy Saturday."
hey bats - is it me or is this one of the more inane things he's ever said?
Bush deferred to Blanco on account of the issue of posse comitatus, and not because of her actual competence.
Bush didn't defer to her at all. He avoided her calls, but went out of his way to coordinate with Republican governors.
ACCORDING TO THE LEFT:
Fuck Bush
Fuck Bush
and, oh yes, Fuck Bush
Well, ya know taking the people to the Superdome worked. It was a refuge of last resort and had enough supplies for two days. Only problem is that the incompetent Bush adm. then screwed the pooch. And this thing has federalized days before.
Liberal lefty moonbat bias! So funny and pathetic at the same time. Thanks for 2004, Moore-ons!
Some facts:
Gore lost.
Kerry lost.
Your fault.
Keep whining.
There were very few left-liberals there protesting today. Most Americans support Bush, want to stay the course and bring freedom, not make sacrifice of our brave soldiers in vain. And their whining is falling on def ears.
Oh really? Then why is it most polls have support for a pullout/draw-down at over 60%?
You left one out: Fuck Bush!
Worst. President. Ever.
A prediction for Georgie-Boy- if Karl Rove gets taken down by the long arm of the law, the rudderless Bush won't make it to the end of his term. Indeed, it wouldn't surprise me if the in way over his head empty suit became the first president to commit suicide while in office.
Typical asshole liberals. Can't engage me in an honest debate, so you steal my name.
Toby, let's get out of here. I just got the new Michelle Malkin calendar.
rorschach -- Every minute of every day needs to be completely-and-utterly-ignore-trolls day. Their soul damage spreads like a virus.
Who's going to be your losing candidate in 2008?
" I don't have to read the works of Jesus Christ. I've read the whole Left Behind series twice. And I've got New Testament for Dummies."
I stand corrcted.
Dems are useless. They hate the USA.
(I must be bored)
ACCORDING TO THE LEFT:
Fuck Bush
Fuck Bush
and, oh yes, Fuck Bush
millipede
Yep. The reasons are legion. Glad to see you have found acceptance that Bush is tin-horn asshole with good handlers who lie with impugnity and steal with abandon.
So, quite a crowd in DC, eh?
Nothing disgusts me more than a spineless panderer.
You trolls - you worry me. Y'all are in a very small minority in this country, and that very small minority keeps shrinking.
Y'all are going to be measured for the jackets with the extra long sleeves if you keep on this way.
35%, trolls. Eat it and die.
You're over. The Cult is over. Bush is over.
Real facts:
Gore won the popular vote.
Kerry would have won but for Diebold's machines.
stop your lying
Stop stealing my name, Moore-ons! Go wage war on the rich or something, for all the good it will do.
Trolls are people who seem to spend a great deal of time accomplishing nothing.
I have yet to see one non-troll say something like "God, I have been wrong all along, Go Bush!"
Well, ya know, you wouldn't hire a useless political hack to be your doctor or dentist or even lawyer. FEMA deals with people's lives and a professional should be in charge not a horse judge.
Everybody knows the polls are all manipulated by the Left to make the Bush look bad. I saw a poll over at Stormfront and they show Bush's approval rating being over 70%, second only to Adolph Hitler, who came in at 79%.
Give Bush another year, he'll pull ahead of the Fuhrer.
Y'all are in a very small minority in this country, and that very small minority keeps shrinking.
Great theory. Now why do you keep losing elections?
Oh, right - it's hateful idiots like you who turn people away.
David McCullough is often criticized as being a pop-historian.
But watching him speak, you can readily discern that his focus is on the unsung heroes of events.
And for that, I salute him.
Gore won the popular vote.
Kerry would have won but for Diebold's machines.
stop your lying
Pitiful...
rorschach -- Every minute of every day needs to be completely-and-utterly-ignore-trolls day. Their soul damage spreads like a virus.
cs
Yea verily, and forsooth.
Typical asshole liberals. Can't engage me in an honest debate, so you steal my name.
Ruppeepee, you don't debate. You spout lies like a little puss and expect folks to agree. You're a dildo.
Let's go over it again, Rupeepee.
Extinguish the pilot on the gas stove, crank up the burners, wait 15 minutes, and flick your Bic. BOOM.
You can do it.
OK, I changed my mind. I'm reposting after all.
I am of two minds on this.
I'm thinking of the interview in "Before Stonewall", or a similar gay rights documentary, in which one of the first public protestors to anti-gay discrimination pointed out that a conscious choice was made to wear dress clothes during their demonstration.
(Oh, and only the men wore suits and ties, and only the women wore dresses-- as far as the casual viewer could tell, at least.)
And to my sympathetic eye, those courageous pioneers, men, women and otherwise, indeed looked dignified and respectable.
Then I think of the "Queer Nation" phase, with hot video bites eagerly, even gleefully, broadcast on local news just to creep out not only Granny, but Daddy, Mommy, Bub, and Sis.
So I think, yeah, it's obvious that public demonstrations should be conducted to appeal to non-participants as far as possible, and let the solidarity and the "preaching to the choir" take care of itself.
But I also resent the pathological commoditization of culture, which dictates that life is an artifact of mass media rather than the other way around. And I can sincerely say that even intelligent people don't "get" that it's all "really" an infomercial.
It's like saying forget the heart, forget the moment, forget the natural energy of people uniting in a cause, i.e. solidarity, forget the soul, the kairos. It's all savvy product placement, clarity of "message"-- making the sale.
It's easy to claim that it's possible to craft a focused message and promote all of the above, but it's like the difference between being and acting.
I don't think that the "average" person is going to tune in to the coverage to help make up his/her mind anyway. Pro-war, pro-Bush types will tune in just long enough to confirm their prejudices.
They will scorn the yowling herd of cats.
Let's see, about three thousand showed up for Rummy's Reichstand rally. The lowest estimate for today is 50,000, and that's with no trains out of NYC and buses being diverted. Hmmmm.
Is it one troll or many that have infested.
Now was the BookTV deal on the Mall going on at the same time as the march?
Bobo could have scanned the crowd for any "real" Americans...
You guys watch. Bush will win again in '08 and then you're really gonna cry!
Now why do you keep losing elections?
Gee maybe its because the Republican party hates democracy and does everything it can to supress or engineer the vote rather then letting the people decide for them selves.
" rorschach -- Every minute of every day needs to be completely-and-utterly-ignore-trolls day. Their soul damage spreads like a virus.
cs"
Second that - as a recovering troll feeder, I cannot tell you what joy it is to step over the messes on the rug.
Try it, you'll like it.
Everybody knows the polls are all manipulated by the Left to make the Bush look bad. I saw a poll over at Stormfront and they show Bush's approval rating being over 70%, second only to Adolph Hitler, who came in at 79%.
Give Bush another year, he'll pull ahead of the Fuhrer.
Gary Ruppert
Funny as shit. Don't know who's doing it, but it's good.
Now why do you keep losing elections?
In time, You=Nation's Soul.
But the 83 people at the Freedom March were real Americans, unlike the measly hundred thousand fringe commies at today's rally. It's sickening.
I hear voices sometimes.
Gee maybe its because the Republican party hates democracy and does everything it can to supress or engineer the vote rather then letting the people decide for them selves.
You ever see how that resembles Christian "logic"?
If you actually won an election, then it would validate you. If you lose, it's a conspiracy.
Christians do something similar. They'll preach to you from the Bible. But if you turn the words of the Bible against them, they say that the Bible says that "unbelievers" were foretold to use the Bible against "believers", ergo, they're never wrong or at fault.
Woohoo!
Funny as shit. Don't know who's doing it, but it's good.
So... trolling is good?
Gotcha.
Stop stealing my name, Moore-ons!
I am Gary Ruppert
I am Gary Ruppert
I am Spartac-I- mean Gary Ruppert
Gee maybe its because the Republican party hates democracy and does everything it can to supress or engineer the vote rather then letting the people decide for them selves.
Theo
I hear the mother ship is coming, too.
You pinheads are fucking hilarious.
I assume the DC rally's still going on, which means it also has run longer than the 90-minute Freiheitmaerz the other day.
I assume the DC rally's still going on, which means it also has run longer than the 90-minute Freiheitmaerz the other day.
Gary Qualls, Asshole Extraordinaire:
"Supporters of Bush's policy in Iraq assembled in smaller numbers to get their voice heard in the day's anti-war din. About 150 of them rallied at the U.S. Navy Memorial.
Gary Qualls, 48, of Temple, Texas, whose Marine reservist son, Louis, died last year in the insurgent stronghold of Fallujah, asked: "If you bring them home now, who's going to be responsible for all the atrocities that are fixing to happen over there? Cindy Sheehan?"
Woohoo!
Anonymous
You got anything or are you just going to continue on with your tedious bullshit?
Stupid liberal moonbat idiots.
.
David Patterson
I know you are, but what am I?
Hmm. No one can give a rational answer and accept the reality that Democrats are being rejected by America.
That's a tough pill to swallow.
You pinheads are fucking hilarious.
Al Frankenstein
Not as hilarious as you trolls.
60% of America rejects the war.
Bottom line!
Give Bush another year, he'll pull ahead of the Fuehrer
Yeah, and those Nazi trading stamps will probably double in value too, so you can get your Zyklon-B
shower set!
So, my two-part observation:
1) The trolls are frantic to derail any discussion about the anti-war rally.
2) They got nothin'. Like, even less so than usual.
I'm through here for today. Consider yourselves pwned by me, weaklings.
What? Who's that?
GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!!
¿Deed joo know?
Thees pobrecita trollta, "Gary Ruppert"...
she ees also how-joo-say "Cog",
and her name, thees "gary ruppert", eet ees an anagram of "party purger"
"Cog" = "Party Purger"
just how-joo-say F.Y.I.
so.
Hey, does anyone know what happened in the Woodlands? I'm dying to hear whether someone has relatives there and what became of them.
It's an information void here about that.
Hmm. No one can give a rational answer and accept the reality that Democrats are being rejected by America.
That's a tough pill to swallow.
You seem to have a real good time making up fairy tales.
Is it fun contemplating your navel?
60% of America rejects the war.
Bottom line!
OK. So why can't Democrats capitalize on that?
ql:
The lowest estimate for today is 50,000, and that's with no trains out of NYC and buses being diverted. Hmmmm.
Now, I admit I didn't watch much of CSPAN's coverage (on account of my low nausea threshhold), but there weren't 50K anywhere near that thing. If you actually believe that, then you're hallucinating.
Whoever this is Gary's been writing to, I hope you're happy. He's crying again. I wish he'd just stay off these teen chat rooms.
sincerely,
Gary's Mom
"But the 83 people at the Freedom March were real Americans, unlike the measly hundred thousand fringe commies at today's rally. It's sickening."
Let's not forget the 150 at the pro-murder....er, pro war march today.
You seem to have a real good time making up fairy tales.
Oh, so it's a "fairytale" that the Republicans control all three branches of government and the media.
My mistake.
Hmm. No one can give a rational answer and accept the reality that Democrats are being rejected by America.
The elctions were stolen. That is a fact. It was an elaborate conspiracy.
Oops, gotts go, my neighbors cat is calling me.
ACCORDING TO THE LEFT:
Bush should have tried to micromanage before Katrina.
Bush shouldn't try to micromanaged before Rita.
Gary Ruppert
Is that you, Mr. President?
Man, the troll shit is really thick in here today.
Is it fun contemplating your navel?
Billy B
Ah, the pleasures of omphaloskepsis. The trolls revel in it.
You ever see how that resembles Christian "logic"?
Christians don't have evidence to support their logic. I'd gladly concede the last two elections to Bush if it wasn't for the exit polling in Florida and the statistical errors in Ohio. Or do you think its just coincidence that Bush came out ahead in a district that had 10,000 more people vote than were registered is a co-incidence? Or maybe you approve of conservative activists throwing Democratic voter registrations in the trash like they did in Nevada?
Hola, el gato negro.
How did you get to be such an intelligence creature?
You're absolutely right - the stooooopid sticks out all over.
Oops, gotts go, my neighbors cat is calling me.
Typical Eschatonian | 09.24.05 - 4:13 pm | #
Why does Terry want the President to die? I think that's excessive. You don't hear any Americans saying they wish Mother Sheehan were dead, do you?
Oh, so it's a "fairytale" that the Republicans control all three branches of government and the media.
And look at what you've done with it, a-puss.
How about the deficit? Proud of that?
How about Iraq? Proud of that?
How about Little Boots? Proud of him?
You are dumber than two bulls fucking.
"Christians do something similar. They'll preach to you from the Bible. But if you turn the words of the Bible against them, they say that the Bible says that "unbelievers" were foretold to use the Bible against "believers", ergo, they're never wrong or at fault."
True dat. Another ting they do is lead witht heir religion on their chin, daring you to argue with them and basing all their arguments on religion. Then when you DO argue, they claim you're attacking their faith. It's so annoying.
Yeh, anonymouse, the gop controls everything and you STILL are a pathetic little man. Something must be wrong. Why aren't you in charge of something, like maybe fifth assistant to the guy who cancels Bush photo-ops because they are 'too sunny'.
I enjoy watching the screws tighten on Jack Abramoff. His former aide, Susan Ralston was questioned, David Safavian was arrested, former partner Adam Kidan arrested, and Jack himself arrested too.
Abramoff's been on the inside for decades. He knows a LOT of dirt.
Come on, Jackie, save your soul. Sing like a little birdie for the nice federal investigators. They'll go easy on you and your family. Kind of. 
Wouldn't it be nice if he took down the entire Repuklican party? I'd bet he could.
Bush has been yapping about an "expanded role for the military"
What, here?
Who's he going to use?
Oh, so it's a "fairytale" that the Republicans control all three branches of government and the media.
And doing a bang-up job of running everything, too, it seems. Never in my life have I heard so much bellyaching from the group that supposedly has a serious lock-down on the halls of power. What a government: one "side" is incompetent and venal and the other "side" is incompetent and spineless.
your Zyklon-B shower set
Or your brand new easy-load Reichsfuerer brand oven that seats twelve! And is guaranteed for a thousand glorious years!
your Zyklon-B shower set
Or your brand new easy-load Reichsfuerer brand oven that seats twelve! And is guaranteed for a thousand glorious years!
60% of America rejects the war.
Bottom line!
OK. So why can't Democrats capitalize on that?
Anonymous
Because the military-industrial complex has launched a conspiracy to control the media. What part of that don't you understand?
I wish my neighbors cat would stop talking to me. It makes it so hard to concentrate. I think I hear the mother ship!
And look at what you've done with it, a-puss.
That's right - get aggressive when you're shown to be wrong.
I find supporters of the Administration, the Republican Party as it exists today and of the war to be basically interested in wildlife. It becomes obvious since they keep on beating dead horses, voting for weasels, listening to chickenhawks and worshipping many sacred cows. Its a whole menagerie in their midsts. The Elephant in the room it could be said.
Theo, which event traumatized you more: the 2000 Election or the atrocities of 11 September 2001?
Hi, Moonbats!
Can't even begin to estimate the size of the crowd. Absolutely huge. Just back in and am going to collapse in a tub of hot water for a while, but the march was amazing. So many people that the crowd often had to stop and stand in place for long periods of time. Walked past the WH behind an amazing group of very young kids (late high school? early college?) dancing and chanting:
"It's bullshit.
Get off it.
This war is for profit.
Violence and occupation
Cannot lead to liberation.
That's bullit.
Get off it.
This war is for profit."
They give me hope.
Also spent some time just standing and crying with an old guy whose sign said, "I didn't fight in WWII so George Bush could lie to America." My dad was in the Pacific and this guy was in Europe, but they both fought to save an America that is fast disappearing under George Bush.
An incredible range of ages, colors, sexual orientations, religions. (My group walked for a while next to the American Baptist Coalition for Peace of North America.) When people chanted, "Tell me what democracy looks like? THIS is what democracy looks like," you knew it was the truth.
Very, very few police seen and the ones that I did see were fine. Saw zero pro-war protestors, but I heard that they were a few of them down by the Navy Memorial metro stop.
I'll check back in later, my old bones get tireder than they did when I marched against the Viet Nam war.
You don't hear any Americans saying they wish Mother Sheehan were dead, do you?
Boy, someone's obviously never read through the Yahoo! message boards.
Why does Terry want the President to die? I think that's excessive. You don't hear any Americans saying they wish Mother Sheehan were dead, do you?
Toby Petzold
Cindy Sheehan hasn't destroyed the country, made it hated throughout the world and trashed the economy.
What Bush has done to this country is "excessive."
Smarter trolls, please!
You don't hear any Americans saying they wish Mother Sheehan were dead, do you?
Boy, someone's obviously never read through the Yahoo! message boards.
The Mast Lurker
Or the freeper boards.
Thanks for update, Hecate.
Looking forward to your account of the thing.
Yeh, anonymouse, the gop controls everything and you STILL are a pathetic little man.
I can't believe how many psychics post here.
Perhaps you psychics should band together and make billions off of the stock market, then buy up all the major media.
Mommie! The big bully stole my cheetos! wahhhhhhhh
Theo, which event traumatized you more: the 2000 Election or the atrocities of 11 September 2001?
Toby Petzold
One led to the other.
Now, I admit I didn't watch much of CSPAN's coverage (on account of my low nausea threshhold), but there weren't 50K anywhere near that thing. If you actually believe that, then you're hallucinating.
No Tobes, the folks were there. I saw at least 100K file by on the live traffic cam.
Facts is tough things, ain't they?
"The only philosopher that I need to know about is the risen Lord Jesus Christ Almighty (May God Bless His Holy Name).
David Patterson"
It's too bad your philosopher never helped you to understand how the natural and eternal law of cause and effect affects both you personally as well as all of us collectively.
Cause and effect (karma) is sorta skimmed over lightly in the Bible, but it's essentially how we came to be here now, universally, in spite of whatever bullshit dogma you were raised with.
You might even say that these hurricanes are the collective karmic payback for all of us having a hard time figuring out how to treat each other with respect and dignity across the board, for a very long time.
Athenae has a picture up of the protest. Better take a look, wingers - it's America and it's coming for you.
Tena, bonita, I believe eet was thees "Mrs Ibraham Al-Jaaffari" that first pointed eet out.
I looked, and "¡Gatos de Dios!", she was right!
Thees Cog, she has steel no learned how to Cogitate.
Trrr,/I>uly, a Cog weethout Cognition.
so.
A prediction for Georgie-Boy- if Karl Rove gets taken down by the long arm of the law, the rudderless Bush won't make it to the end of his term. Indeed, it wouldn't surprise me if the in way over his head empty suit became the first president to commit suicide while in office.
Richard
Yes, his paranoia, teeth-grinding, and avoidances are very obvious. Suicide? We should be so lucky.
I am a witch and I have magical powers. I also have a friend from Mars. He's a little green man and we stay up late at night talking.
That's right - get aggressive when you're shown to be wrong.
Anonymous
OK sweetheart, where did you show me to be wrong?
A-puss is getting delusional.
Better take a look, wingers - it's America and it's coming for you.
Hey, dumbass, learn how to make a proper link.
You spend your whole life here and can't learn something so simple?
Loser!
anonymouse, you constantly claim to know what people on this board think and do. And now you are whining about us being psychics. You really are a thin-skinned, defensive little twit, aren't you?
" Does anyone here think that the government's weak response to Katrina might have been a convenient excuse to attempt to suspend the posse comitatus act?
G B"
Already happened, hasn't it?
Nixon was a much savvier politician than Shrub/Karl.
He never would have put himself in the position of running from a woman who's son was gnarled up following his ventures.
Neither would Reagan.
You guys are backing not only the wrong horse, but you are backing a stupified mule.
put an extra character in the link above. Hope this fixed it.
Ooh, Sweet Honey and the Rock are going to perform at the concert on Link TV.
OK sweetheart, where did you show me to be wrong?
Me: Democrats rejected by America
You: That's a fairy tale!
Me: Points you to basic reality.
You: Ruff!
Hey, dumbass, learn how to make a proper link.
You spend your whole life here and can't learn something so simple?
Loser!
Anonymous | 09.24.05 - 4:21 pm | #
Boy, I bet you were hell in debate class. And a charmer at parties, too, I imagine.
The benediction of the Senate Commerce, Science Transportation Subcmte struck me as odd.
put an extra character in the link above. Hope this fixed it.
Good girl. You got it right on your second try.
Shall we move on to learning how to tie our shoes?
Hey, dumbass, learn how to make a proper link.
Uh, sweetheart, the link was fine.
Do you need someone to teach you how to point, click, and activate said link?
a-puss has a brain the size of a Le Sueur pea.
It's a sea of people who want this war stopped now.
It's a sea of Americans who want Bush gone.
America is talking - the Right won't listen. The Right is going to be destroyed completely at this rate.
"Police Chief Charles H. Ramsey, noting that organizers had hoped to draw 100,000 people, said, "I think they probably hit that.""
LINKY
Official estimates are always low, so we know there were more than that.
I can't believe how many psychics post here.
Perhaps you psychics should band together and make billions off of the stock market, then buy up all the major media.
The vast, right wing conspiracy has made it impossible. Diebold has rigged the stock market so liberals can't make any money.
By the way, that's common knowledge.
My goodness, what a rough playground it is at Ronald Reagan Elementary School.
david brooks on cspan 2, made an interesting comment during the q&a section. he was at the book festival. expounded on katrina and horror of seeing the same dead body floating in the water for 4 days. and that what with all the corporate scandals, the missing wmds, the war, something, something, and the inadequate federal response to the hurricane, it's all come to a head. analogized the feeling of mistrust people now have of the government to the rolling stones song: shattered. our world is in tatters.
Tena, that's just a lot of colors. Like with the cops' safety yellow jackets and the outsized banners creating the illusion of size and motion. It's a fucking sham.
I hate women because they laugh at my teeny weeny.
Boy, I bet you were hell in debate class. And a charmer at parties, too, I imagine.
Another psychic!
Get thee to Wall Street!
You spend your whole life here
Is it me or is the air getting kinda think in here?
Redolent, even.
Uh, sweetheart, the link was fine.
You're smoking the good stuff today.
Another psychic!
Get thee to Wall Street!
Um, what?
You guys are backing not only the wrong horse, but you are backing a stupified mule.
Max Planck
Quote of the day.
What say you, anonypuss?
" The end times are at hand!!!!!
David Patterson"
I reckon that means YOUR OWN PERSONAL end times, my friend. But, since I'm guessing you'll buy into any ol' fairy-tale, then it really is true.
See ya....
Hi everyone--just a drive by.
I just got back from the protest--there was a pretty huge turnout and very few counter-protesters (less than 200--w/several bullhorns, of course--most were freaks like that guy with the flag codpiece).
It was very moving.
Theo, which event traumatized you more: the 2000 Election or the atrocities of 11 September 2001?
Well Toby while 9/11 was worse for me personaly it's clear the 2000 "election" did more damage to the nation as a whole.
thick, I mean.
The Right is going to be destroyed completely at this rate.
That gets sadder every time it's said.
Will you be saying that 40 years from now, too? My guess is -- Yes.
I won't believe in reality. I won't! I won't! All those people at the march are holograms or cardboard cutouts or computer generated!
now i'm going to be late. thought of my target audience when i made up my sign- a zillion cops:
bush
anti work
anti worker
was going to go with a bumper sticker i saw:
bush deserves a fair trial!
It's a fucking sham.
Toby Petzold
check the link provided by TOW, tobes.
You are really having trouble with the facts today, Buster Brown.
I won't believe in reality. I won't! I won't! All those people at the march are holograms or cardboard cutouts or computer generated!
Millions protested the Iraq War. Did that accomplish anything?
No.
America is talking - the Right won't listen. The Right is going to be destroyed completely at this rate.
So long as they control the supreme court and the voting process the Right doesn't have to listen.
Did I tell you guys I got a new broomstick? I fly around on it at night and me and cast magic spells while my martian friend watches from his spaceship.
Chief Ramsey is about as nice to liberals and leftist demonstrators as a centipede would be, so his estimate is likely to be low.
On one occasion, he even football-tackled a hapless demonstrator himself, bringing him down on a concrete sidewalk just to keep his hand in.
Toby - is your little voice quivering while you try to persuade me and yourself that there aren't that many people? Getting worried?
It's already over, Toby. Y'all are over.
You still haven't told us what important job you have with the Bush adm., anonymoose. Stop whining about psychics and tell us your job title.
Also, thees "David Patterson",
her new-trollita (anagrammal) nick-name ees "Toddies Van Trap".
So, we have Dos trollitas
the "Party-purger", and Miss "Toddies Van Trap".
¿What fun, eh? muy divertido.
so.
Steve Earle's supposed to take the stage about 4:40 pm and Sweet Honey and the Rock at about 6:20. I'm going to go find a tv and watch . . .
That gets sadder every time it's said.
Will you be saying that 40 years from now, too? My guess is -- Yes.
Anonymous
Whew, you are a haughty little turd.
I bet you get a lot of asswhippings with that attitude, don't you. anonypussilanimous?
I won't believe in reality. I won't! I won't!
It's sad how some people can't deal with reality.
Ok, I'm going to levitate for a while and then practise some spells.
It's already over, Toby. Y'all are over.
You sound like Stuart Smalley, mumbling to himself in the mirror - "And damnit - I love myself."
"Y'all are over. Y'all are over.Y'all are over. Y'all are over. Shit - we lost again? It's a conspiracy!Y'all are over. Y'all are over. Y'all are over. Shit - we lost again? It's a conspiracy! Y'all are over. Y'all are over. Y'all are over. Y'all are over. Shit - we lost again? It's a conspiracy! Y'all are over. Y'all are over. Y'all are over. Y'all are over. Shit - we lost again? It's a conspiracy! Y'all are over."
I thought for sure I was going to miss the march--it was supposed to start at 12:30 but I knew I couldn't get down there until after 2:30. I picked up the march in the middle and when I got to the end, the "end" of the march was just getting started. IOW, the entire route was packed.
Sorry, trollsies, as I heard at the march, "This is what democracy looks like!"
Steve Earle's supposed to take the stage about 4:40 pm
aw crap, and here I am stuck at the store and TV-less.
Lots of people making bad bets here.
This is expected.
Tena:
Toby - is your little voice quivering while you try to persuade me and yourself that there aren't that many people? Getting worried?
Tena, next time you try to pass off a photo from a London anti-war rally as one from DC, you might want to crop out the bobbies.
It's already over, Toby. Y'all are over.
Your credibility? Yes. I agree.
Note they're happy they've won but never do they want to talk about the fruits of their labors, as it were - the mess in Iraq, the deficit, torture, Enron, and all that.
They "won" but can't own the result.
Yes, his paranoia, teeth-grinding, and avoidances are very obvious. Suicide? We should be so lucky.
Pitchforks and Torches
Nah, he'll never kill himself. He is way too chickenshit. Besides, he is a sociopath and .believes he is right.
I fully expect him to take his ball and go home. If we won't play by his rules, then he won't play, effectively resigning. I expect this will happen sometime within the next year to year and a half. And if it does happen, y'all remember where you heard it first.
It's sad how some people can't deal with reality.
And then there are the people who think 2000-year-old Jewish ghosts talk to them and tell them how to live their lives.
Millions protested the Iraq War. Did that accomplish anything?
No.
Anonymous | 09.24.05 - 4:29 pm | #
Oh, I don't know. I mean, it obviously showed a whole lot of people in this country from all walks of life weren't full-on gung-ho for the war as the government would like us to belive. In any event, protests in this form have rarely accomplished much beyond showing public displeasure for governmental actions. Look at the Civil Rights movement, for example. It took the Supreme Court and LBJ for the actual laws and interpretations of law to really change, but do you really think the government would do anything that's beneficial for the public at large if the public didn't express its displeasure?
Free speech, assembly and petitioning the government, the First Amendment in a nutshell.
Oh yeah? El Gato Negro is "O Lone Art Egg" So. Eat that! Ha!. That's for before.
Nixon was a much savvier politician than Shrub/Karl.
He never would have put himself in the position of running from a woman who's son was gnarled up following his ventures.
Neither would Reagan.
You guys are backing not only the wrong horse, but you are backing a stupified mule.
Max Planck
Not only that, but could you imagine an Eisenhower or a Kennedy doing the "Mission Accomplished" stunt?
Really. Can anyone imagine any world leader with an ounce of dignity or sense of statesmanship allowing him or herself to be duped by that fat fuck Rove into making oneself look like a wannabe soldier.
Bush really, really has no idea of what it means to lead.
He can only follow, and he choses to follow a cynical, unscrupulous dirty trickster who knows how to make stagecrafted photo ops, but nothing about making lives of human beings better.
Lots of people making bad bets here.
This is expected.
Anonymous
That was coherent. Apuss, you want to let us in on your little delusion?
The Mast Lurker | Homepage | 09.24.05 - 4:34 pm | #
A sane person! Egads!
Pere Ubu - I don't know who is carrying the concert, but maybe you can stream it.
It's sad how some people can't deal with reality.
So joo say, eh?
so.
I fully expect him to take his ball and go home.
Bush has never seen anything through to completion in his life. (one wonders how the Bush Twins managed to get concieved!)
He'll lose interest and walk away, like any spoiled lil' brat when things get too tough.
Notice how anonymoose still hasn't told us what his really really important job is in the imperial Bush adm.
" Does anyone here think that the government's weak response to Katrina might have been a convenient excuse to attempt to suspend the posse comitatus act?
G B"
No, I don't think they did it deliberately, but they saw their opportunity and grabbed it. Frankly, I am scared shitless that my tin foil hat wasn't as tin foily as I comforted myself.
Militant pacifists, bah.
http://www.investors.com/editori...20050923&
view=1
Notice how anonymoose still hasn't told us what his really really important job is in the imperial Bush adm.
yawn
He's Scotty McClellan's fluffer.
Notice how anonymoose still hasn't told us what his really really important job is in the imperial Bush adm.
He's the guy who hits the nuclear bombs with a little mallet to see if they're duds or not.
Notice how anonymoose still hasn't told us what his really really important job is in the imperial Bush adm.
I'm paid to troll here, just like all the other trolls here. Everyone knows that. It's common knowledge here, therefore it's true.
Silly rabbit!
Silly rabbit!
Anonymous
Is that what Scotty calls you when he squirts in your mouth?
Tambien
Shaw - Bush is sham president. He does what he's told to do.
And he's bored shitless doing it anymore, which he makes obvious.
I once remarked to Mr. Tena that I knew people who didn't think Bush would ever leave the WH. Mr. Tena said: "Are you fucking kidding me? He'll run away. He never thought he'd have to do a day's work in his life."
I think that's true.
He's Scotty McClellan's fluffer.
No Billy that's clearly Gannon's job. Apuss must fluff for Rove.
Tambien, leetle trollita,
¡El Gato Negro! he ees an anagram of "Got One Lager".
everyone knows thees.
joo pobrecito maullido renacuajo.
so.
Oh, Gato Negro - you are leaving us?
I'll miss you.
Actually, he's the man who cleans the toilets on Air Force One. Give a peasant a government job and he thinks he is part of the ruling class. How amusing the wingnut peasants are with their silly ideas that they are on the same level as us in the imperial family. hahahahaha. Peel me a grape, troll.
I wonder if the real Hecate is still here.
What intelligence agency does Ted Smith work for?
FEMA.
How did he get the job?
Brown knows.
What was his top secret job at FEMA?
Brown knows.
What’s his job there now?
Gives Chertoff blow by blow action.
What’s the 91% factor?
Blood alcohol level before a woman would sleep with Ted.
What’s the 100% factor?
How drunk Ted has to be to really please a woman.
What’s Ted’s most successful pick-up line?
Want my confirmation code?
What answer does he get?
No.
Why does Ted pretend he’s a 16-year-old twink when he’s trolling the Internet?
Can’t get dates as a 54-year-old dink.
I once remarked to Mr. Tena that I knew people who didn't think Bush would ever leave the WH. Mr. Tena said: "Are you fucking kidding me? He'll run away. He never thought he'd have to do a day's work in his life."
I think that's true.
Mr. Tena is one sharp cat, Ms. Tena. That's exactly what I think will happen. I hope we get to see the boy crack up in public, but that's wishful thinking on my part.
He's a disengaged, mean, little cocksucker that really doesn't give a shit.
GEORGE, NO!
I fully expect him to take his ball and go home. If we won't play by his rules, then he won't play, effectively resigning. I expect this will happen sometime within the next year to year and a half. And if it does happen, y'all remember where you heard it first.
ql in ny
I agree, he'll resign. Bush has a solid track record of breaking his new toys and casting them off to look for something new.
He did it with his TANG stint, with Arbusto, with Harken, with the Texas Rangers and even his governorship.
And look at his abysmal record in office - No Child Left Behind, the hunt for bin Laden, controlling the deficit, his Social Security Plan, the war in Afghanistan and now Iraq - his failures would be a joke if it didn't require someone to spend the next generation cleaning up his fuck ups.
A sane person! Egads!
Anonymous | 09.24.05 - 4:36 pm | #
In a world long since gone mad, one does what one can. I am curious, however, given your obvious superior intellect, if you actually have anything to say beyond stirring up the rather easily stirable folks here abouts. Sure, sneering's fun and satisfying, but does it truly accomplish anything positive?
Athenae has a picture up of the protest. Better take a look, wingers - it's America and it's coming for you.
As do I...
He's Scotty McClellan's fluffer.
Billy B
Now that's hard work.
I agree, he'll resign. Bush has a solid track record of breaking his new toys and casting them off to look for something new.
This is why that Bill Maher rant was so brilliant, where he encourages Dubya to walk away and try a new "fantasy job", like cowboy or spaceman.
traffic cam picture:
http://img364.imageshack.us/
my.p...e=dccam50jt.jpg
Sure, sneering's fun and satisfying, but does it truly accomplish anything positive?
From each, according to his ability...
if you actually have anything to say beyond stirring up the rather easily stirable folks here abouts.
I resemble that. I just like to fuck with the little shits.
No stirring up here.
traffic cam picture:
Obviously a biased, liberal traffic cam.
In London.
Even the Democrats are having enough of the anti-America demonstrations:
"Watching clips of the Answer Anti-War Rally, all I see are things that I want nothing to do with. I am a staunch supporter of Israel, and its fundamental right to exist. I watch this rally and see people basically supporting the Hamas, etc., and the suicide killings of innocent Israelis in cafes, on buses, etc."
"If you want to break down the coalition of people against the war, turning this into a hate the Jews/Israel party is an easy way to do it."
Even they can recognize that the anti-War movement is very very anti-Israel
rorschach - thanks for the picture.
Your post on torture is well done, too. Hard to say "good" when the subject is what it is.
Nothing hurts me worse than knowing Americans have done those things to other humans.
(grits teeth)
must not feed troll... must not feed troll...
SANCTUARY NOW!!!
Nothing hurts me worse than knowing Americans have done those things to other humans.
How about knowing that Americans have *re-elected* the people responsible for it?
(Or at least got it close enough to be stolen, depending on one's level of cynicism)
Even they can recognize that the anti-War movement is very very anti-Israel
Gary Ruppert
Nice Rupeepee. You make up cute quotes.
How many personalities do you have, Billy Milligan?
Hell, not voting them out in a fucking *landslide* is pretty disgraceful, really.
No stirring up here.
Billy B
Actually, I'm amused by them anymore. It's all so much spitting into the wind with them.
He will NEVER leave the WH - EVER. Bush requires a protective cloud of sycophants at all times. He may disengage completely, rather, more obviously, from the duties of president, but he will hold on, tooth and claw, to all the entitlements of office.
The number of Democrat politicians who have condemned ANSWER: 0
All opposition to the Iraq War is due to the efforts of the communist-front groups.
All opposition to the Iraq War is essentially treason
Actually, I'm amused by them anymore. It's all so much spitting into the wind with them.
I don't much care, but it's kind of a drag when the back-and-forth with the trolls is the *only* conversation going on, especially since I am mostly inclined to abstain.
[...] Sure, sneering's fun and satisfying, but does it truly accomplish anything positive?
The Mast Lurker - 4:45 pm
Well, sometimes it gives the sneerer an erection. Does that count?
I don't give a shit about Israel. There are friends of mine over in Iraq getting shot at and blown up for a lie. Simple as that.
.
He may disengage completely, rather, more obviously, from the duties of president, but he will hold on, tooth and claw, to all the entitlements of office.
I think that pretty much nails it. Bush is *all about* the privileges of power, but wants nothing to do with its duties and responsibilities.
Also, if America were invaded like in Red Dawn, the anti-war groups would be the ones collaborating with the enemy, like they are now
Is that what Scotty calls you when he squirts in your mouth?
No, it's what your wife says after we get done making fun of you.
Actually, I'm amused by them anymore. It's all so much spitting into the wind with them.
Tena
Yeah, my dear, I know. I should leave it alone, but I spent a lot of time playing the dozens growing up and it is almost a hobby.
Lately, they've been rather one-sided, as you say.
All opposition to the Iraq War is due to the efforts of the communist-front groups.
Does Chuck Hagel know about his Communist connections? If not, I consider it the troll's patriotic duty to inform US Senator Hagel about his Communist activities at once!
I agree, he'll resign. Bush has a solid track record of breaking his new toys and casting them off to look for something new.
I don't know if he'll resign - though I can see it happening. But I do think he'll run as fast as he can once he's out.
Eli - nope, it's the torture that I find unforgivable. I can forgive people for voting for Bush; the media has been so complicit with this criminal enterprise that it's hard to blame most voters.
There's never an excuse for torture. None none none.
George Bush is mein Gott. Er ist mein, ach! He ist my prezdent. You are all traitors! You vill be eliminated. I am the arm von George Bushes ....
So -- let me get this straight.
When someone on the Left protests war, they're told "the Sixties are over".
When someone on the right drags out the old red-baiting trope from the Fifties, it's considered perfectly valid.
Billy B,
Oh, don't get me wrong. I point no fingers nor do I lay any shame. Personally, I think those on the left side of the political spectrum have every right to be upset, even feverently so, at the state of the U.S. government, the capability of either party and just the simple frustration of being called the source of all evil in the universe by moral degenerates like Limbaugh, Savage, Coulter, DeLay, Frist and so on and so forth. And while I don't much care for the partisan mindset, I understand where it comes from and understand why folks like to have a team they can root for.
Nevertheless, I must say - and this is only one cowboy's opinion, mind you - a whole lot folks let themselves get far too discombobulated far too easy by folks who are either just trying to stir up shit or have absolutely no intention of listening to a single word anyone with even the slightest ideological difference might have to say.
But what the hell, ya know? It's just the internet; it's not for real. People need to vent in these trying times, and I like to think such venting cuts down on the Eric Rudolphs and Jim Kopps and Fred Phelpses of the world. Feverent opinions are one thing. Actions? Quite another.
but does it truly accomplish anything positive?
At the bare minimum, I get plenty of laughs. And that's a good thing.
Other than that - who knows? Maybe.
All opposition to the Iraq War is due to the efforts of the communist-front groups.
It's not even a war for fuck's sake. The Congress couldn't even be bothered to vote on the legitimacy of that shit.
Oh joy, I just can't wait until we finally get outta Iraq, after fuck-ups infinity.
Then we get to hear about how the left was the reason we lost. All the protesting musta built a gigantic army of osamas...
.
Does Chuck Hagel know about his Communist connections? If not, I consider it the troll's patriotic duty to inform US Senator Hagel about his Communist activities at once!
Hagel has been demotivated due to the efforts of the anti-America left.
The fact is that the Iraq war is a tremendous success.
Thank you, Tena. Agreed on the aversion to the word "good."
I just cannot understand how anyone would do these things to other people.
Well, I mean, I can, having been beaten to a pulp by New Orleans cops. But I don't like it.
No, it's what your wife says after we get done making fun of you.
Anonymous
Here we go with the "I know you are, but what am I" retort.
That about right PeeWee?
Nothing hurts me worse than knowing Americans have done those things to other humans.
I bet losing your Internet connection would hurt you much worse than that.
I would abide by the majority vote of Eschatonians (trolls excluded) as to whether to carry on with making fun of trolls.
I can't feel guilty about it, though.
Eli - nope, it's the torture that I find unforgivable. I can forgive people for voting for Bush; the media has been so complicit with this criminal enterprise that it's hard to blame most voters.
I think enough got through the filter that I have a hard time forgiving Bush voters. By November, everyone knew about Abu Ghraib, and I think most people knew there were no WMDs or ties to al Qaeda or 9/11.
I think the Bush voters just didn't care.
The fact is that the Iraq war is a tremendous success.
Gary Ruppert
Quick! Tell the Saudis who've just announced that the Iraq war is a clusterfuck.
Not only that, but could you imagine an Eisenhower or a Kennedy doing the "Mission Accomplished" stunt?
Bushco is representative of the Jerry Springer country we have devolved into.
Dignity, seeing at least SOME things as sacred, and maturity have been lost. The red state inbreds have taken over.
Ruppert, Putzhold:
The case that both of you are too stupid to be allowed to continue to live has been made.
We do not need further evidence from either of you to support the case.
You can go back to jacking off to war porn now.
Thank you.
Asswipes.
There's never an excuse for torture. None none none.
there hasn't been any torture in Iraq. Just a bunch of crying from the anti-American left over legitimate tactics of interrogation
I bet losing your Internet connection would hurt you much worse than that.
Anonymous | 09.24.05 - 4:58 pm | #
This the psychic abilities you mysteriously alluded to previously? Again, snark or substance, I'm genuinely curious.
Hasta luego, murcielagos...
'dios for now.
¡Despida todos los culos!
so.
I can forgive people for voting for Bush
Marginally in 2000, absolute zero in 2004.
"I can walk! Mein Fuhrer, I'm comink...oh"
Of course if the owner of this blog asked me to cut it out that would do it too.
I've got a bunch of gordon jokes too but I'm looking for a better place to post them.
"Tremendous success":
"Civil war today is closer than any time before," said Hazim Abdel Hamid al Nuaimi, a professor of politics at al-Mustansiriya University in Baghdad. "All of these explosions, the efforts by police and purging of neighborhoods is a battle to control Baghdad."
link
I wonder if the real Hecate is still here.
Pitchforks and Torches | Email | 09.24.05 - 4:43 p
She said that she was going for a hot bath. Anything posted after that sounds like trollery to me.
"Civil war today is closer than any time before," said Hazim Abdel Hamid al Nuaimi, a professor of poli-zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Just another liberal professor
I can forgive people for voting for Bush
Marginally in 2000, absolute zero in 2004.
'Zackly. You would have had to pay a little bit of attention in 2000 to know what Bush was about, but by 2004 it was all too clear.
snakes and bugs, and ravenuos animals...
Jeanne Reaserve - CNN
what the fuck? ANIMALS in a hurricane catch rabies??
Wow, I think the trolls are gone. They did have that pre-naptime crankiness I see so often in little ones...
Here we go with the "I know you are, but what am I" retort.
I think half the responses to me are that variety, including yours.
But you're so minor I'll forget you the second I depart. You need to be either perceptive or incredibly, angrily clueless to stay on my radar.
there hasn't been any torture in Iraq. Just a bunch of crying from the anti-American left over legitimate tactics of interrogation
Are you saying that the army was wrong in convicting people for these atrocities?
Why do hate America, you traitor?
All opposition to the Iraq War is essentially treason
Gary Ruppert
Do you really think so? Then this Web site is for you:
http://www.goarmy.com
Just type in your Zip code to find the recruiter nearest you. Or chat live via the Web with a recruiter right now.
Red Dawn?!? No way! When the Soviets invade Wyoming, I'll be right there with my whole high school! And you know waht? We'll beat 'em! Just like Rambo or the A-Team! Then its on to red China - and Kaddafi! Yeah! Freedom!
there hasn't been any torture in Iraq. Just a bunch of crying from the anti-American left over legitimate tactics of interrogation
Gary Ruppert
That's nice dear. Now go wash your hands and tell grampy about the nice doo-doo you just made.
Oh, don't get me wrong. I point no fingers nor do I lay any shame.
We're cool, ML.
I only meant that A-puss and crew would never get a rise out of me as they say nothing, they got nothing, and they are desparate as their little party is about to be over.
Keep up the good work as I enjoy your posts. You have been carving up A-puss all thread.
Right A-puss?
MEIN BUSH. DEZTROY SEINES ENEMIES. MIT TUNDER UND BLITZEN UND KOMET UND KUPID.....
ICH WILL IHERE TOD ZU MACHEN..... BALD O MEIN GOTT, BALD.
This the psychic abilities you mysteriously alluded to previously?
No, just a damn good guess.
Of course, the theory will never be tested, sadly.
Are you saying that the army was wrong in convicting people for these atrocities?
They're just trying to mollify the anti-American left. Lynndie England deserves a Medal of Freedom, not jail.
"Tremendous success":
Yesterday Michael Howard, the Conservative leader, said the policy being following by the United Kingdom, the US and their allies "doesn't seem to be working". He demanded that the interim government in Baghdad be told to do more to bring rebel militias to heel.
link
"He may disengage completely, rather, more obviously, from the duties of president, but he will hold on, tooth and claw, to all the entitlements of office."
agreed. he'll sleep a little later, and work even less, but the lust for power will remain.
Yesterday Michael Howard, the "Conservative" leader, said the policy being following by the United Kingdom, the US and their allies "doesn't se-zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Eli - nope, it's the torture that I find unforgivable.( I agree) I can forgive people for voting for Bush;( Yup because people are ignorant or too busy watching the OC) the media has been so complicit with this criminal enterprise that it's hard to blame most voters. ( this is just plain stupid the voters need to get educated or at the very least learn how to read and stop worrying about what fucking car they drive or there prada purses)
All opposition to the Iraq War is essentially treason
According to what law, pray tell? And if it is treason, why aren't there more trials and such, prosecuting those engaged in such obvious treason? Why, if the GOP controls the media and all three branches of the U.S. government (since treason's a federal thing), are so many people allowed to indulge in such an evil? And what are you doing about it, personally? Stomp any protestors lately? Made any citizen's arrests?
Why is it gordon the magnificat instead of Gordon, when battling the vicious Eschaton liberals?
We leave him limp.
Why does gordon hope that Atrios doesn’t enforce truth in labeling?
.,.ordon the deficient.
And if it is treason, why aren't there more trials and such, prosecuting those engaged in such obvious treason?
Lack of something happening is not proof that it shouldn't happen.
Sheehan, Kerry, Fonda, Moore, all those anti-American traitors should be in jail
The Democrats have said much about the war, deficit, and other issues, but have not been widely quoted, due to a complicit press.
Paul Wellstone and others have "disappeared." The Democrats are scared shitless, they've been hamstrung, Rove-whipped.
This is not democracy.
"Tremendous success":
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll released Thursday indicated fewer than half of Americans believe the United States will win the Iraq war, and 55 percent of those surveyed said it should speed up withdrawal plans.
Only 21 percent said the United States definitely would win the war in Iraq, which began when a U.S.-led coalition invaded in 2003 to topple Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein. Another 22 percent said they thought the United States probably would win.
link
EPT | 09.24.05 - 5:06 pm | #
I read that 3 am comment of yours this morning. That was a beaut!
How long have you been utterly insane?
Hey, I don't think he will actually resign. That would be hard work. Nope, I think he will just go on a permanent vacation.
And hey, we shouldn't be too hard on him. His five weeks vacation was ruined by that broad camping out on his doorstep. Then he was actually expected to do something about the hurricane response, to say nothing of gas prices. No, I expect him to go on a long vacay to recover from all these duties. Like maybe 3 yrs. and 3 months.
"America is talking - the Right won't listen. The Right is going to be destroyed completely at this rate.
Tena"
They will destroy their own castle from within.
Opposition to the Iraqi war is treason, huh? Howzabout outing CIA officers? Izzat treason? Huh? Hello?
No torture in Iraq? We back to that again?
Ya might wanna read this:
3 in 82nd Airborne Say Beating Iraqi Prisoners Was Routine
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/
2...KyvY0aidfZVMyKQ
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Well, Ruppert, since you argue that any opposition to the Iraq war is essentially treason, and you oppose the actions of our armed forces in convicting the torturers, you are guilty of treason.
I suggest that you exact the penalty on yourself, posthaste.
Gary Ruppert jokes tell themselves.
Opposition to the Iraqi war is treason, huh? Howzabout outing CIA officers? Izzat treason? Huh? Hello?
The fact that a leftist (David Corn) outed Valerie Plame is pretty treasonous, but not as treasonous as the anti-Americans who are aiding the enemy in the Iraq war.
Eli - nope, it's the torture that I find unforgivable.
That is the only truly American feature that ShrubCo has given back to the voters.
The freedom of choice.
Your salad bar boasts:
Torture.
Treason.
Graft.
Spicy Incompetence.
Prior Restraint.
Imperialism.
Racism.
Suspension of habeas corpus.
Don't forget the sun-dried tomatoes!
Depersonalization, fantasies, and coping behavior in clinical context.
Wolfradt U, Engelmann S.
Department of Psychology, Martin-Luther-Universitat, Halle, Germany.
The main purpose of the present study was to determine the relation between specific dissociative experiences (depersonalization, fantasies) and self-reported coping behavior in a clinical (depression, anxiety, schizophrenia) and nonclinical sample (normal adults). Dissociative experiences were assessed with the Questionnaire of Experiences of Dissociation (QED) of Riley (198 and coping behavior with the Stress-Process Questionnaire (SPQ; Janke, Erdmann, & Boucsein, 1985). A factor analysis of the QED items revealed a two-factor extraction: Factor 1 "depersonalization" and Factor 2 "fantasies/daydreams." The clinical group scored higher on the QED factor "depersonalization" and had more passive forms of coping behavior (resignation, social isolation, self-compassion, self-blame) than the normal adults. Similar correlation patterns were found for both groups: The QED factor "depersonalization" correlated highly with the coping behaviors "resignation," "social isolation," "self-blame," "self-compassion," and "rumination." No correlation between Factor 2 "fantasies/daydreams" and the coping behavior was found. Finally, correlations between depersonalization, trait anxiety, and personal need for structure were reported.
PMID: 10100823 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
How long have you been utterly insane?
Anonymous
You have no idea how reassuring your saying this is.
No, just a damn good guess.
Oh, I don't know. Seems to me you're assuming an awful lot about a person who is basically a complete and total stranger. And you really don't expect me to believe that you're doing it for any other reason than to be a pain in the ass.
Of course, the theory will never be tested, sadly.
Again, I think you're assuming too much, but frankly, I'm not really concerned with what someone else does with his/her free time. If Tena wants to spend it all on the internet, who are you or I to say she's out of bounds? And isn't it a little, well, precious to use a medium (quite a bit if my cursory glances reveal anything, which of course, they might not) to condemn someone else's use of said medium? Isn't that like having a tv show where you basically spend your time bitching about how bad television is.
What, in your opinion, should someone do rather than kill time on a blog's comments board? Or do you really care that much about someone you don't know and will probably never interact with and who's actions affect you in almost no way at all? Why?
You have no idea how reassuring your saying this is.
It's reassuring to know you're insane?
Alrighty then!
Medals for everyone!
Michael Brown gets one for Katrina. Rummie gets one for Iraq.
Rove gets one for the tax cuts.
Such successful people, I'd hire them in a moment.
Max - well, given the choice between people voting for Bush and torture, I go with torture as unforgivable.
But when other choices come up - well, I find stealing elections completely unforgivable, as I do treason. But I consider stealing elections to be treason.
I think it should be categorized as such.
Sheehan, Kerry, Fonda, Moore, all those anti-American traitors should be in jail
Gary Ruppert | Homepage | 09.24.05 - 5:06 pm | #
Well, why aren't you doing something about it? If you feel that strongly about it, why aren't you lobbying the government to, say, suspend the First Amendment (which guarantees rights to free speech, assembly and petitioning of the government)? If that's too radical, why aren't you taking a more physical interest in things?
Frankly, all you're really doing, it appears to me, is bitching because some people disagree with you.
I think half the responses to me are that variety, including yours.
heh.
That's right. You're really wheelin' and dealin' with the insults today, apuss.
Each and every one of us are in awe of your caustic wit and snappy repartee.
Now let me ask you, when you are fluffing Scotty, does he grab your ears and jam that 3" gherkin in your mouth as he screams "Silly RAbbit"?
Honey, I'm willing to play the game but not with a beginner. It wouldn't be fair.
I'm complaining because scum like Cindy Sheehan are aiding and comforting the enemy in Iraq
David Corn outted Valerie Plame? On what planet? Boy, that liberal media, always into something.
Dignity, seeing at least SOME things as sacred, and maturity have been lost. The red state inbreds have taken over.
Pitchforks and Torches
And it continues apace. While we are all rightly concerned with the war and responses to national emergencies, the right continues pull down the country by denegrating education, intelligence, the arts, and just about everything that I hold sacred. It won't stop with w. We have to get back to a place where education is valued. Where beer guzzling, cheeto eating, mean sons of a bitches aren't admired for their "common sense" approach to solving problems. Where money is not the bottom line in every decision made by corporatists.
Wo sind meine Ball Berings, Ich muss sie finden.
( this is just plain stupid the voters need to get educated or at the very least learn how to read and stop worrying about what fucking car they drive or there prada purses)
And you know that's what people are worrying about because...?
Pretty prescient there, on a pretty grand scale, I must say.
David Corn outted Valerie Plame? On what planet? Boy, that liberal media, always into something.
Corn was one of the first to say Plame was a covert CIA operative.
Although the media did argue that Plame was already outed in the 1990s, before they lost their case and claimed that Rove outed her.
Oh yeah.. it appears there's still no indictments in the Fitzgerald case.
I guess he couldn't find anything.
The 37% Presidency.
Aiight, gotta roll.
Hang loose all.
I'm complaining because scum like Cindy Sheehan are aiding and comforting the enemy in Iraq
Gary Ruppert
Somebody call a waaaaambulance!
I just can't figure out the logical conclusion people come to when they call U.S. citizens traitors when they speak out against the government.
Do they think that's the end of it? Someone's put in jail?
Is there no connection to idea that creating a one party system- is sorta..oh....Stalinist?
I'm serious here. What to the trolls really think the conclusion of silencing all dissent will be?
.
And you really don't expect me to believe that you're doing it for any other reason than to be a pain in the ass.
I'm not really concerned with what you believe or don't believe. As you said in your first sentence, "you're assuming an awful lot about a person who is basically a complete and total stranger".
Isn't that like having a tv show where you basically spend your time bitching about how bad television is.
Not really, but one connects through the medium where people congregate. It doesn't dilute any message that may be communicated.
What, in your opinion, should someone do rather than kill time on a blog's comments board?
I honestly don't care what people do, though I think it's pitiful to constantly harp about problems and indulge in impotent fantasies about revenge etc when you're really doing nothing to make that happen. It's not only not productive, it's unhealthy. And if people don't want to be exposed to critiques when they share their lavishly, then they're just childish.
Or do you really care that much about someone you don't know and will probably never interact with and who's actions affect you in almost no way at all? Why?
Does it really matter?
A world not of sight or sound
Out of mind.
You have entered the Trollight Zone
Nu, nu, noonan
nu, nu, noonan....
I'm complaining because scum like Cindy Sheehan are aiding and comforting the enemy in Iraq
Gary Ruppert | Homepage | 09.24.05 - 5:13 pm | #
So long as you're doing absolutely nothing but complaining, knock yourself right out, Junior. Whine away and continue to decidedly not strenghthen your case or try to convince people to come around to your way of thinking through logic and reason. Personally, I'm glad, thankful that I live in a country where dissent from the powers that be and status quo is not only allowed, it's woven into the cultural fabric and is a part of history.
The First Amendment...man, ya gotta love it.
I'm not really concerned with what you believe or don't believe.
And in that, Anonymous, you've rested your case.
The 37% Presidency.
The 37% Two-Term Presidency.
What in the world are you all going to do when a Republican (maybe even Jeb) wins in '08?
I can only imagine the collective inner despair and rage.
OK. So why can't Democrats capitalize on that?
Anonymous
Diebold. Central tabulator. Fascism.
Pick any two.
I'm watching the Washington anti-war demonstration on FSTV in the Boston area!
All the major channels are covering the hurricane Rita non-stop. I haven't seen any of them covering the demonstration.
While Rita deserves time and coverage, the effects of Rita will be gone in few days and it may take a year to clean up and rebuild.
The war in Iraq will go on and on so long as Bushboy & the Gooper fascists continue to mislead the American people.
And in that, Anonymous, you've rested your case.
I have?
I take it you care about what other people believe about you?
That's awfully sad.
I occasionally admire, in a fleeting and wistful way, those who pursue trolls with the festive abandon of a Whack-a-Mole™ contestant. (Try it.)
There's that dolt Ruppert: Pow! The tedious Petzold appears: Bam! The inconceivable ass Patterson peeps out: Zang! Some Anonymous supercilious dickweed surfaces: Ksssh!
But when it's this thick it's hard to tell the whackers from the whacked.
Then he was actually expected to do something about the hurricane response, to say nothing of gas prices. No, I expect him to go on a long vacay to recover from all these duties. Like maybe 3 yrs. and 3 months.
He takes after his mother. Barbara Bush said of the displaced after they were rescued from the toxic toilet known as New Orleans:
"They've never had it so good."
Yes, being ignored and left for dead, weather a category 4 hurricane with floodwaters coming up to drown them, losing all of their possessions, being robbed by looters, wading through toxic waters not knowing their fate, maybe escaping to the superdome or convention center where they were threatened with harm, then being starved and dehydrated, only to watch babies and disabled people die right in front of them, then being whisked away after many days wondering if they themselves would die...then ending up on a cot in the Astrodome.
Yeah, they never had it better. Fuck Bush. Barbara Bush.
The 37% Presidency.
Shaw Kenawe
That could be the motive of a good troll joke.
Diebold. Central tabulator. Fascism.
In other words, you are unable to accept responsibility for your part in it.
Honey, I'm willing to play the game but not with a beginner. It wouldn't be fair.
EPT
Your posts lately have been particularly good. Don't waste your breath on the inbreds.
But when it's this thick it's hard to tell the whackers from the whacked.
Little Brøther
Sometimes you just know.
I'm serious here. What to the trolls really think the conclusion of silencing all dissent will be?
.
dieselcreek | Homepage | 09.24.05 - 5:18 pm | #
these are the same people who are in favor of strict interpretation of the constitution. How they can hold two (or three) totally divergent ideas in their heads at the same time without exploding I have no idea.
I'm serious here. What to the trolls really think the conclusion of silencing all dissent will be?
.
dieselcreek
dieselcreek, my friend, first, they DON'T think. Second, they don't read, so they can't know that the shit they spew about dissent being unpatriotic, unAmerican comes from deep stupidity and ignorance.
They are the anti-Americans. They are against everything our soldiers die for.
Freedom of speech.
Freedom to redress our government.
These trolls know NOTHING about that.
They would have been in heaven in Uncle Joe's regime.
Stupid fucks, all of them.
Thank you ql.
By the way, that post was posted on a dead thread in the full knowlege that it would be read by gordon or his posse. I wanted them to know that it was thanks largly to gordon that I had that information. I've got more, though.
1 We admitted we were powerless over George W. Bush - that our lives had become unmanageable
2 Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity
3 Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood God
4 Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves
5 Admitted to God, to ourselves and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs
6 Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character
7 Humbly asked God to remove our shortcomings
8 Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all
9 Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others
10 Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it
11 Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood God, praying only for knowledge of God's will for us and the power to carry that out
12 Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to other addicts, and to practice these principles in all our affairs
President live....oh boy!
I take it you care about what other people believe about you?
That's awfully sad.
Anonymous
It's not what they believe about me, it's what the people believe about themselves, and that sacred spirit has been looted by your false idol in just as grimy a manner as the commonest of criminals.
Julian Bond gave a hell of speech.
He nailed Bushboy & the Gooepers for bankrupting the country with their tax cuts for the fatcats, with their Iraq war for oil, with their criminal negligence to protect America from hurricanes by spending money in all the wrong places (with Halliburton in Iraq) instead of on improving the levees in New Orleans or on education.
Bushboy has always been a coward, a liar and a greedy ignoramus who has a depraved indifference about the fate of the American people.
In a sane and sensible society, Bushboy would be removed from office and frog marched to prison.
Sometimes you just know.
EPT
I should think so.
Now, I admit I didn't watch much of CSPAN's coverage (on account of my low nausea threshhold), but there weren't 50K anywhere near that thing. If you actually believe that, then you're hallucinating.
Toby Petzold
CSPAN only covered the crowd at the speaker's stage, which was relatively sparse at various times of the day. The main crowd was CIRCLING THE FUCKING WHITE HOUSE. Idiot.
1 We admitted we were powerless over George W. Bush - that our lives had become unmanageable
you lost me right there.
Corn was one of the first to say Plame was a covert CIA operative.
True, true. His article came a couple days after Novak's column, which first alluded to Plame's work as an operative. Either way, Novak's column did the most damage, as it comprimised Plame's cover and the covers of associates. By the time Corn got around to writing his deal, the damage was good and done, if what I've read from CIA folks is gold.
Does it really matter?
Anonymous | 09.24.05 - 5:18 pm | #
If it doesn't, then why bother? I'm serious, why stir up shit if you don't really care about the topic at hand. Sure, things do have the tendency to get rather territorial and insular - "childish" as you say - but that's the whole point, I'd think. As I said earlier, a place to come and vent. Do you go to Free Republic or LGF and do the same thing? If not, why not?
There's something to be said for venting, allowing people to blow off steam in a safe, familiar and, above all, friendly atmosphere. This is a country with a serious anger problem, and personally, I'd rather have folks shooting off in a comments board than in a crowded room.
Still, if you don't care and you say it doesn't matter, why even bother? What do you get out of it? You're not really adding to the discourse in any way - be fair - nor do you take the hard-line opposite in ideology. What's the point?
Bush really, really has no idea of what it means to lead.
He can only follow, and he choses to follow a cynical, unscrupulous dirty trickster who knows how to make stagecrafted photo ops, but nothing about making lives of human beings better.
Shaw Kenawe
-Bush is a dumbass, gutless, son of a bitch who likes to play dress-up.
Lowest approval rate of any post war president in the history of the US.
That's George W. Bush. What a guy!
LOWEST of ANY POST WAR PRESIDENT in US HISTORY.
Lower than the Clenis! Whoa!
Bwaaahhaaaaaaa!
holy moly, is it the end of the world? i just turned on cnn and lou dobbs is working on saturday. wtf.
As well as a host of jokes that they really wouldn't want anyone in Gorham to hear.
So, what's the percentage breakdown for speakers saying "We don't like the war in Iraq" and speakers saying "We want to free Mumia and crush Israel now!"
I think it's 25/75 for the anti-semites
dieselcreek, my friend, first, they DON'T think. Second, they don't read, so they can't know that the shit they spew about dissent being unpatriotic, unAmerican comes from deep stupidity and ignorance.
They are the anti-Americans. They are against everything our soldiers die for.
Freedom of speech.
Freedom to redress our government.
These trolls know NOTHING about that.
They would have been in heaven in Uncle Joe's regime.
Stupid fucks, all of them.
Shaw Kenawe
Good enough to repeat.
They would have loved Stalin. They would have been right at home in the USSR. They really ought to be somewhere like North Korea now - it better suits their outlooks and temperaments.
Ahh, lovely liberal moonbats
Do you go to Free Republic or LGF and do the same thing? If not, why not?
Because he would be banned instantly.
I'm certain that's the only reason, though...
Sometimes you just know.
EPT
I should think so.
Tena
Indeed.
(And by the by, Gary Ruprecht is an idiot.)
EPT | 09.24.05 - 5:24 pm | #
There's an obsessed kook like you on every board.
My suggestion is you seek help now before you go completely overboard. I've seen these obsessions turn an otherwise useful life to tatters.
I remember seeing a real smart guy - great writer, perceptive, a strong sens of justice - go completely nuts when he started thinking there was some grand conspriracy to get him.
The details are vague, but I think he ended up flying to different places around the country to confront his "enemies" from the board, filing suit against some of them, taking on the provider of the message board, etc.
He ended up moving to a whole other town and trying to "disappear", having lost his job, wife, and his sanity.
Seriously, man - your sanity is at stake.
(And before you ask, yes I am a pyschiciatrist...)
Julian Bond gave a hell of speech.
Did anyone hear Sheila Jackson Lee's speech at the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation the other day. Fifteen or so of the most lucid, coherent, minutes in beautiful language spoken beautifully. And it was inspired.
Why is this woman not on anyones short list for leadership if not the Presidency?
You will all burn in hell for persecuting men of God like Tom DeLay and Bill Frist.
David Patterson
Pbbssstttfftppphhh...BWAHAHAHA!!! Stop!! Oh God, stop!! My sides, my sides!!
Did I mention that she spoke without notes?
Anon. I'm feeling better about it all the time.
Chewing on (wing)nuts...
It's not just a job, it's an adventure
Live video of the DC rally.
Psychiciatrist, rather. I knew that didn't look right...
If it doesn't, then why bother?
I'm confused. On one hand you tell me I shouldn't be concerned why people are here, then on the other hand you're very concerned with *my* motivations for being here.
Doesn't make sense.
afternoon, batties. are there trolls here again? damn, i thought we'd fumigated the place.
i've blogged on the rally and march, re this morning's c-span coverage and debate here. it's not OT blogwhoring when it's an open thread, right? a sample:
But I know I’m out of the mainstream in my reluctance to judge people by impossible, artificial standards that dominate American visual media. Many people, perhaps even most people, would look upon today’s group of “freaks” and recoil or laugh. Dreadlocks! Muslim garb! Sallow skin! Oh my God, does that faggot have gay hair or what? Did I actually see a fat person on stage? It wouldn’t matter if these people had been protesting in favor of the right to breathe; a lot of viewers would still be put off by their looks, no matter what the message.
Seriously, man - your sanity is at stake.
Anonymous | 09.24.05 - 5:31 pm | #
So, you do care. My faith in humanity is restored.
Lou Dobbs is reporting on hurricane Rita. And is giving the weather up-dates.
Why would Dobbs come in on a Saturday just for this?
I wonder if he'll say anything about the anti-war demonstration?
In a sane and sensible society, Bushboy would be removed from office and frog marched to prison.
In a sane and sensible society, Bush would have risen to the limits of his abilities, and thus would be getting fired for putting customers' eggs in the bottom of the bags, and for always going out behind the dumpsters to sneak some booze when it gets busy.
Is Sallyh here yet? its almost time for canape's and a G&T.
Anyone care to join me?
So? How many belts of Jim Beam has Little Bootsy McCokespoon had today?
erm, here's the link: linkee.
Way way lower than the Clenis™ , Shaw - after the Clenis™ was impeached.
His ratings were never as low as Bush - who has the worst numbers ever, as you pointed out.
Bush is having the worst second term in history - it's just a shame that so many people have to suffer for it.
Anon. I'm feeling better about it all the time.
Looks like you're already in too deep.
Best of luck. That guy I mentioned still hasn't recovered from his struggle with lunacy.
Eli, I'm pretty sure it's spelled "sykiatrist."
Friday, September 23
Nashville - A white Republican lawmaker from Knoxville asked about joining the Legislature's Black Caucus, saying he wants to know how the group spends its money. Campfield, who said he has black constituents, said he was just curious about how the caucus operates and also asked its Chairman, Rep. Johnny Shaw, for the bylaws. Shaw, a Democrat, denied both requests.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/sta...ates/
tnmain.htm
Let me just say that Blitzer is SUCH a Bushwhore & that Kay Bailey Hutchinson needs to be ground up and transported to a trout farm.
EPT? Are you from the Volunteer State?
Who left the door open this time?
I wish all of you could have been in D.C. today, if for no other reason that to realize what massive numbers of our fellow Americans are against this war -- against it enough to travel to Washington, D.C. and spend Saturday marching. What we see on the tv and read in the newspapers is not really America. America was in the streets today and America wants this war over now.
If I answer Anonymous again, please, some sane person tell me that he has a point.
I'm confused. On one hand you tell me I shouldn't be concerned why people are here, then on the other hand you're very concerned with *my* motivations for being here.
Well, don't be confused. I'm just curious as to why you care or don't care. Do I care about you, whoever you are? Well, no, not really, beyond a general good will for the grand scope of humanity. You say you don't care, then you got on and on about how one poster needs "help" for his/her presummed psychosis, but you also claim it "really doesn't matter". You don't seem to be making any real stands on any issue - like Mr. Ruppert, for example - just stirring up the shit for the stirable.
I'm just curious about the mindset of folks who go into chatrooms, message boards, etc. just to fuck shit up and be pains in the asses. I never said I didn't care; I just wonder if you do. About anything.
Let me just say that Blitzer is SUCH a Bushwhore & that Kay Bailey Hutchinson needs to be ground up and transported to a trout farm.
bo
What did a trout ever do to you?!!
Eli, I'm pretty sure it's spelled "sykiatrist."
I believe that is the officially accepted Kentucky variation.
Why would Dobbs come in on a Saturday just for this?
His investments aren't going so well. He needs the overtime.
.
So, you do care.
Of course I do.
It's one thing to play around for whatever reason. It's wholly another to see someone going off the deep end and not at least trying to throw them a rope.
The problem with paranoid delusions is that help is usually seen as part of the "conspiracy", so it usually just ends up strengthening their resolve rather than diminishing it.
No real way to deal with it past a certain point.
Some people can't deal with the lack of certainty and anonymity that exists on message boards. They need to KNOW.
Drives a lot of people to the funny farm.
Best of luck. That guy I mentioned still hasn't recovered from his struggle with lunacy. - Anonymous
He said, looking deep into the mirror.
Pathetic.
Go study for your driver's license, sonny.
Kay Bailey Hutchinson needs to be ground up and transported to a trout farm.
School chum?
13 Overlooked everything else that was happening around us, and didn't even notice that the 12 previous reasonings led us to delusion.
I'm a native of Maine.
(boom, boom)
The expected joke from Anonymous in this space.
Kay Bailey Hutchinson needs to be ground up and transported to a trout farm
What did the trout do to deserve that?
400th?
Bushboy's EPA trying to make it easier for chemical companies to NOT report the release of toxins into the environment.
Bushboy's EPA wants to extend their self-reporting of released toxins to 2 years instead of 1.
Why give first responders and citizens current information about toxins that could kill them?
And I thought that Bushboy was "pro-life". Corporate profits obviously trump human life! Does that also apply to fetuses???
Say, have we heard from Incog today? The weather maps show Rita dropping rain like crazy around Shreveport. That's where he is, right?
What did a trout ever do to you?!!
ZuZu's Petals
Oops! Sorry about the brainwave theft, ZuZu. Purely inadvertent.
Can we now call them SCLB; so called liberal bloggers in name only.
Seems some bloggers will only support activity they headline and fuck everthing else.
Referring to the lack of blog interest in todays anti war rally.
Can we now place some bloggers as no better than the washing whore post.
Maybe the bucks just arent there for their support. Fuck em...
I wish all of you could have been in D.C. today, if for no other reason that to realize what massive numbers of our fellow Americans are against this war -- against it enough to travel to Washington, D.C. and spend Saturday marching. What we see on the tv and read in the newspapers is not really America. America was in the streets today and America wants this war over now.
Hecate
I wish I could've been there with ya!
Oops! Sorry about the brainwave theft, ZuZu. Purely inadvertent.
SteveNS
Great minds, SteveNs, great minds!!
Eli, I'm pretty sure it's spelled "sykiatrist."
I vote for going back to "alienist".
It's easier to spell and it sounds cool.
Trout are carnivorous and will eat any thing, including the macerated guts of their freshly caught, recent compatriots. I think it's poetic justice, though, if she were to make it into the pate` for a Republican fundraiser, that would be even better.
I just wonder if you do. About anything.
Of course I do.
Explaining what someone is doing sometimes ruins what they're doing, right? It's like how explaining a joke stops the laughter and knowing how a magic trick is done makes the "magic" go away.
Would you rather I come here and just agree with everything and get along and shake my tiny fists at the world? Not sure how much point there is to that, either, so who's to say whether what I'm doing matters or not?
As I said, at least I get a lot of laughs out of it and plenty of people get their "troll" to feel superior to. Win/win.
I've got to go.
Those jokes, and they are some of the meanest I've ever written, are waiting to be unleashed to a campus town in Southern Maine at the least provocation.
I hope you have a relatively troll free evening, Friends. Gary, get help.
I've been reading at Eschaton for about two years now. I've often wondered why trolls even comment here. Mostly, I just ignore them. A couple of times I have responded to one of their comments. Do they think they will change our minds? What is their purpose?
Great minds, SteveNs, great minds!!
Whoa! I was going to say that, too!
Pathetic.
Not sure what you think is pathetic, but I was telling the truth.
Again, whether you believe it or not is immaterial. It doesn't make it untrue.
A couple of times I have responded to one of their comments. Do they think they will change our minds? What is their purpose?
I think the primary goal is more to demoralize and disrupt than to actually persuade.
college republicans
Trout are carnivorous and will eat any thing, including the macerated guts of their freshly caught, recent compatriots.
Just like Republicans!
Trout are carnivorous and will eat any thing, including the macerated guts of their freshly caught, recent compatriots.
Just like Republicans!
"Got to keep the loonies on the path..."
It's one thing to play around for whatever reason. It's wholly another to see someone going off the deep end and not at least trying to throw them a rope.
Now, that is a noble goal indeed, but can you blame someone for being skeptical of your intentions? I mean, I've just made a cursory glance of the various threads in the past little bit, and frankly, you seem to doing more of the "stirring up shit for the sake of stirring up shit" thing than any genuine concern. In regards to EPT's tome you alluded to, if you were really concerned with his/her sanity, why bring it up by basically saying "Dude, you're insane, you know that!" There are better ways of approaching the subject, in other words, if one is truly concerned with another's mental well-being.
Since I haven't read EPT's deal, I don't know if it's a sign of mental whackiness or not. Again, I am forced to assume that you're assuming way too much with way too little information. I mean, neither of us knows the details of his/her life, so it's a bit presumptuous, don't you think, to make such a sweeping declaration - and you gotta admit, "utterly insane" isn't exactly a benign-sounding diagnosis.
And why should EPT pay any attention to what you say about his/her mental stability? What credentials do you have in any area that it might pertain to? All I see from you on this matter is "Because I said so", so I just have to wonder, you know.
Of course, I could be entirely off-base, but I'm willing to run that risk.
A couple of times I have responded to one of their comments. Do they think they will change our minds? What is their purpose?
Who among us doesn't like pwning a group of libruls from time to time?
Or something like that, I dunno.
What is their purpose?
What's your purpose? What are you accomplishing?
Hecate:
My thanks to you and the hundreds of thousands of other Americans who were able to make it to Washington today to show the nation that the Iraq war is draining America of lives and money that is needed here at home and that Bushboy & the Goopers are irresponsible and incompetent and should be removed from power.
If you do not learn to master your rage...
"Say, have we heard from Incog today?"
--strawhat
He was commenting on a thread early this morning. Saying, "Rain, rain." I think he mentioned he had a generator if the electricity went out. Hoping he is okay.
What's your purpose? What are you accomplishing?
What is your favorite color? What is the average airspeed of an unladen swallow?
Hecate - Thank you so much - for going and marching and coming back here and telling us.
I so wanted to be there.
how was kerry's speech today?
Purpose? Ask Xenu
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Hecate,
Seconding Rudy & Tena.
Hecate, William Rivers Smith says around 300,000+. That's fucking amazing. Even CNN says it's the biggest anti-war march since the war began.
Would you rather I come here and just agree with everything and get along and shake my tiny fists at the world? Not sure how much point there is to that, either, so who's to say whether what I'm doing matters or not?
Oh, I have no real desire to have any sort of control of what you do, I'm just curious as to the why. Do you think insulting people and being contradictory for contradiction's sake is in any way productive?
I am genuinely curious as to the goals of your little endevour - I'm an admirer of James Randi, so I always want to know how the "magic trick" works - and, frankly, if you actually do stand for something, anything, I for one would much prefer hearing that and damn them that don't like it. You don't have to do anything you don't want to, of course - especially in this particular medium - and if any of us had something better to do, we'd be doing it.
If you do stand for something, anything, do you really think just pissing off random people is the best way to go about accomplishing those goals? Is it some sort of philosophical thing, fucking with people for no good reason, like the Discordians or Libertarians?
Again, I am forced to assume that you're assuming way too much with way too little information.
That's possible, I guess, though when I read that piece, it just reminded me of that poor sap from another board I used to go to.
There may be some truth in it, but these things can sort of snowball and turn into this really big conspiracy in someone's mind. Then they let it rule their lives. As I said, this guy I'm talking about took it to meatspace, which in my view is so reckless to defy explanation.
Maybe it's just because I have things to live for and things to lose that going to confront other nuts in meatspace, not knowing a damn thing about them in real life, seems like a very dumb thing to do.
From the looks of it, he's an old guy prowling around a college campus, convinced some fraternity is "ratfucking" this board or something more.
Could be true, I suppose, but even if it were, would it make sense to confront people who were doing that?
Most likely, it's just one illusions layered on another.
Oh, and add my thanks, Hecate for being there and giving us first hand accounts.
Kay Bailey Hutchinson needs to be ground up and transported to a trout farm.
Can we feed her to the catfish, instead, please? I can't stand the thought of catching a big old Brown trout that's been dining on Kay Bailey Hutchison.
Oh ick.
"I so wanted to be there."
Why weren't you? You obviously have abundant free time.
"What's your purpose? What are you accomplishing?"
--Anonymous
Living in a very republican area of the country, I have connected with people who think like I do. Information I have found at this site has given me the ability to respond and contribute to the causes I believe in. Plus, I like the people here. They are intelligent and have a sense of humor, which I find valuable in these troubled times.
Hecate, William Rivers Smith says around 300,000+. That's fucking amazing. Even CNN says it's the biggest anti-war march since the war began. - ZuZu's Petals
Any idiot troll want to say this is not Vietnam all over again?
Same size crowd as the DC demo in Nov. '69. I was there for that one.
Isn't the idiot Cornyn the other Senator from Texas?
Jesus! Texas has Hutchison and DeeeLay misrepresenting them and now Cornyn!!!
Texas should rename itself Bananarepublic, USA.
I'm no republican,
Now why do you think that he would feel it necessary to deny that particularly glaring truth? Could it be that he's in trouble for blowing the cover off of more than a local operation? Haven't found the public document to prove the link to an official Republican group yet but have every confidence that it is there.
Everything I have revealed about Little g. and his band of socially maladapted ratfuckers has been based on publicly available documents. All can be found online, including that police blotter item mentioned above. Using a computer that can't be linked to me I've found his own shit pile has been useful for gleaning coprolites of information about the little shit himself. Stupid, people are so careless about this kind of thing.
That is everything I've revealed about the little bedwetter SO FAR has been based on publicy available information. I've got some information not based on public documents that I am holding in reserve for the right venue.
I did see the ratfuckers' nest in person again but as it is rather difficult for someone with grey hair to mix in with college students I will have to figure out another way of observing them more closely. I know of several opportunities for this, but I will not involve students. From the stories I've heard these ratfucking thugs are not above violence and intimidation, though cowards themselves when not in a pack. I must confess that it is rather disappointing to see that this generation of greek boys is just as pointlessly puerile as those I was unfortunate enough to know closing in on forty years back. Pimp, I ask you.
If the national organization likes a partisan ratfucker operation in an official location and what tax implications that holds..... we may see.
Here's a clue Little g. when you try to play ball with the big boys, make sure you've got at least one.
That goes for you too, Ted. When I have located the line I will expose it.
Now I have imposed on the Eschaton community enough. My excuse is that I was asked to share what I found and I am more than willing to share with my friends.
Remember, ratfuckers, it's all available in public documents. Stew in that.
EPT | 09.24.05 - 3:42 am | #
I reread just to be sure. It was written for one person, actually. I'm sure that Little geoffy understood it perfectly. Compared to his stuff it looks like Morris Cohen, if not Suzanne Langer.
Now, I've got to go.
dieselcreek--
Your comment on these troll things was spot on.
Living in a very republican area of the country, I have connected with people who think like I do. Information I have found at this site has given me the ability to respond and contribute to the causes I believe in. Plus, I like the people here. They are intelligent and have a sense of humor, which I find valuable in these troubled times.
Probably the best reason I've ever heard. Makes lots of sense.
EPT | 09.24.05 - 5:58 pm | #
Yeah, that's the rant from this morning. Thanks for reposting it.
To watch CNN, you'd think that the only thing going on in America today was the hurricane Rita.
It's Rita non-stop, while a massive anti-war demonstration in Washington against Bushboy's mess in Iraq has not been mentioned.
But then it's only 57 minutes into the broadcast. Maybe they'll show American citizens disagreeing with their anti-government government in the next hour.
But I won't hold my breath.
Same size crowd as the DC demo in Nov. '69. I was there for that one.
Me, too, bo! One thing that made me cry today was seeing the signs that said "War is not healthy for children and other living things." I carried that sign in the Viet Nam protests. If I'd known it would still be necessary 35 years later....
• I was being a little too clever with my Whack-a-Mole comment, and now The Mast Lurker is compromising my principled disdain for troll intercourse. It's like watching "Nature" footage of a spider patiently spinning an elegant web around a plodding stinkbug.
• Meanwhile, chicago dyke, your comment fit in with some discussion earlier.
A lot of people were bothered by the televised pre-march presentation. Too many speakers espousing too many causes, not presenting a focused, concise message, etc. There was some frustration and impatience expressed at the Left coming off like a pathetic caricature of itself, as usual, and not achieving a style and message that would appeal to, or constructively engage and persuade, the congregation not already in the choir.
I posted this twice. I'd appreciate your input.
Your post, and Hecate's, reinforced my sense that one can't rate or value these events as essentially an infomercial. It will be interesting to see if the bobbleheads downplay or otherwise deride the event tomorrow.
One of the nagging problems I have with the stance that the primary purpose of the event is to expand the support base, necessary and desirable as that is, is that I keep sensing incipient self-hatred.
The "Left", like the Democrats, has and should have a gnarly aura and tradition. Like the Statue of Liberty, it beckons the poor, tired, huddled masses, etc. It does not always insist on being polite and well-groomed. Any Pharisee can make a good appearance, and capture the regard of the foolish and superficial.
I'm not sure all of the raucous and edgy and odd-looking people can be airbrushed or hidden sufficiently to allow the Normals to warm up to us.
But then, I felt all warm and runny inside when Joan Baez visited Cindy Sheehan in Crawford last month. Fuck carping that such actions undermine the perception of the peace movement on Main Street in Tinyburg, USA.
Fuck the Ghost of Al Capp, I say.
Maybe they'll show American citizens disagreeing with their anti-government government in the next hour.
But I won't hold my breath.
Rudy |
Of, of course they won't.
Can't criticize DUMBya & Co. Not permitted!
Nashville - A white Republican lawmaker from Knoxville asked about joining the Legislature's Black Caucus, saying he wants to know how the group spends its money.
Maybe he needs to ask his own party that question.
How about that Cardinal Rigali? What a guy!
Over 400 pages in the grand jury report describing the systematic sexual abuse of little boys and girls, and the systemic Church cover-up by cardinals and their minions, and he complains that they were too tough on Cardinal Bevalacqua! Such a pathetic and pitiful rsponse! I am sooooooo embarrassed and outraged.
Bevalacqua should be in jail!
If Christ were in His grave he would roll over. If He were around today, surely He would first console the victims (and families) of these horrific crimes, ensure that their physical, psychological and spiritual needs were tended to, fire every last sitting cardinal and weed out all the remaining perpetrators. Additionally, He would probably give the Church back to the laity to which it really belongs.
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