I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Fristle?
~~~~~~~~~pssshhhht~~~~~~~~~
18-one-thousand, 19-one-thousand, 20-one-thousand...
Boo yah!
I got nuthin'.
booshaaaa!!!
So did anyone set the mous traps?
not first, and loving it!
how goes things @ here? is the antiwar movement working today?
Gee, Eli, two firsts in a row...you're on fire!
I'll bet he's a Republican
A Hollywood producer who claimed to be making a TV show about the U.S. Department of Homeland Security with the approval of President George W. Bush was arrested on Friday and charged with bilking investors out of more than $5.5 million.
Ahhhhh. Fresh air!
Gee, Eli, two firsts in a row...you're on fire!
AAAAIIIIEEEEE!!!!
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Our king, unfortunately, has no conscience to be caught.
how goes things @ here? is the antiwar movement working today?
Mrs. Ibrahim al-jafaari
Why, yes, yes I believe it is.
cheeba,
That's a lovely gravatar you're sporting there.
Cindy Sheehan calls out Hillary:
While in New York, Mrs Sheehan directly signaled out Hillary Clinton and accused here of opportunism. "She knows that the war is a lie but she is waiting for the right moment to say it. Mrs. Clinton, if you don't say it now, you risk losing your job."
Cheeba
Blink blink...
Your gravatar is...um...working. Yes, that's it: it's working.
I guess all the kewl kids are down below? making us the extra-kewl-kids.
Uberkewl.
The Left, being nice people, try to find an explanation for Bush's behavior. Alcohol, drugs, fetal alcohol syndrome. But in fact, he's just an evil son-of-a-bitch!
from der Times:
Speakers at the rally included a newcomer to the modern antiwar movement, Cindy Sheehan, the California mother whose son was killed last year fighting in Iraq. Ms. Sheehan has become the face of the movement because of her efforts over the summer, encamping near Mr. Bush's ranch in Crawford, Tex. Her appearance and brief remarks drew a thunderous response.
"I really haven't had a chance to digest all this," she said in an interview after her speech, referring to the attention she has received. "I hope I'm a catalyst for change, but I don't want to be the focus of change."
But the crowd also heard from old lions of the antiwar movement, like the Rev. Jesse Jackson, the actress Jessica Lange, Ralph Nader and former Attorney General Ramsey Clark, who has endorsed impeaching Mr. Bush.
Mr. Jackson reminded the crowd that the war proceeded without proof that Iraq had unconventional weapons or a connection to Al Qaeda, saying, "We deserve another way and better leadership."
He urged the audience to stay involved in the movement, saying: "When you march, things happen. We'll change the Congress in 2006 and take back the White House in 2008."
ahh...lovely and *working*...
Now, who is it?
bilking investors out of more than $5.5 million.
You have got
to be shittin' me.
Mrs. I a-j,
The folks below are poking at a Randian troll for our benefit here.
Now, who is it?
Kinda hard to tell at that size.
Charisma Carpenter?
ok, i'm tired. i thought we moved fast over here. cheeba- i'm all for female assertiveness, just make sure you're email and hpage links are...um, protected or something. toby makes phone calls.
You have got
to be shittin' me.
Remember what PT Barnum said...
The Left, being nice people, try to find an explanation for Bush's behavior. Alcohol, drugs, fetal alcohol syndrome. But in fact, he's just an evil son-of-a-bitch!
Nûr al-Cubicle
Word!
Mother fucker is a born sociopath.
Then again, look at the family he's from!
I really don't care *why* Dubya is evil. I just want him to go away and take all his little helpers with him.
Terry C--recall the unholy trinity in childhood of sociopathy: firestarting, cruelty to animals, bedwetting. We know Bush engaged in the first 2; I'd bet money he hit the trifecta.
Terry C--recall the unholy trinity in childhood of sociopathy: firestarting, cruelty to animals, bedwetting. We know Bush engaged in the first 2; I'd bet money he hit the trifecta.
Well, we know he's still actively bedshitting...
A Hollywood producer who claimed to be making a TV show about the U.S. Department of Homeland Security with the approval of President George W. Bush was arrested on Friday and charged with bilking investors out of more than $5.5 million.
Central Scrutinizer
He may have thought he was working for Paul Bremer's Iraqi provisional authority, which makes stealing OK.
I would be delighted if Sharpton were elected to Congress...Every day we'd get a colorful disrespectin' put-down of Bushie!
(one might even say that he's... bedshit insane)
Gee, Eli, two firsts in a row...you're on fire!
AAAAIIIIEEEEE!!!!
Eli
The Magic 8 Ball says "10:20 PM veeery likely"
just countin'
.
Oh, sallyh:
You know it.
He's putting firecrackers in frogs and blowing them up?
Didn't anyone SEE this or hear about it? Or didn't they give a fuck?
I guess Bar was too busy!
The Magic 8 Ball says "10:20 PM veeery likely"
just countin'
No doubt. I suspect I'll be too distracted, though.
Mrs. Ibrahim--how are you, Ibrahim and Maxine Bodine? What is the status of the beatings?
and how are you doing with 4-4?
nice post chi dyke.
amen, sister!
Well, we know he's still actively bedshitting...
Eli
Yo Steve S.
What's up?
Check out my new gravatar. Recognize it?
Also, Rhino has released the Chicago catalog. I just got the 3rd album.
Back in the day, before they turned into a wedding band, they were the shit.
Terry Kath baby.
Terry C--Bar probably thought it was cute.
Biofeuls, dude. Stop ignoring them!
cheeba, demi moore? pre GI Jane?
ahh...lovely and *working*...
Now, who is it?
cheeba, 24601 | Email | 09.24.05 - 8:15 pm | #
***************
it's not jean valjean.
A Hollywood producer who claimed to be making a TV show about the U.S. Department of Homeland Security with the approval of President George W. Bush was arrested on Friday and charged with bilking investors out of more than $5.5 million.
Central Scrutinizer
Can't beat those Repug values, can ya?
All that morality!
Good grief , I needed a machete in the thread below to wade through the jungle of trolls.
Why are they all coming on here, When they could be in Texas helping people?
Oh right, of course, trolls believe in helping themselves.
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September 25, 2005
Bring Back Warren Harding
By FRANK RICH
THERE are no coincidences. On Monday, as L. Dennis Kozlowski was slapped with 8 to 25 years in jail for looting Tyco International of some $150 million, the feds were making their first arrest of a high-ranking member of the Bush administration. The official was David Safavian, the chief of White House federal procurement policy who once worked for Jack Abramoff, the sleazy Republican lobbyist whose disreputable client list, in another noncoincidence, included Tyco. While it's an accident of timing that Mr. Safavian was collared at his suburban Virginia home just as Mr. Kozlowski was sent to the slammer in New York, the two events could not better bracket a corrupt era worthy of the Gilded Age.
Ours will be remembered as the Enron era. Enron itself is a distant memory - much like all that circa 2000 talk of a smoothly efficient C.E.O. presidency led by a Harvard M.B.A. and a former chief executive of Halliburton. But even as American business has since been purged by prosecutions and reforms, the mutant Enron version of the C.E.O. culture still rules in Washington: uninhibited cronyism, cooked books, special-favors networks, the banishment of whistle-blowers and accountability. More than ideology, this ethos has sabotaged even the best of American intentions, whether in Iraq or New Orleans. Unchecked, it promises greater disasters to come.
As recently as 10 days ago, when he resigned before his arrest, Mr. Safavian was the man who set purchasing policy for the entire federal government, including that related to Hurricane Katrina relief. The White House might as well have appointed a contestant from "The Apprentice." Before entering public service, Mr. Safavian's main claim to fame was as a lobbyist whose clients included Indian gaming interests and thuggish African regimes. Mr. Safavian now faces charges of lying and obstructing the investigation of Mr. Abramoff, the Tom DeLay-Ralph Reed-Grover Norquist pal who is being investigated by more agencies than looked into 9/11. Mr. Abramoff's greasy K Street influence-peddling network makes the Warren Harding gang, which operated out of its own infamous "little green house on K Street," look like selfless stewards of the public good.
You know that the arrest of Mr. Safavian, one of three known Abramoff alumni to migrate into the administration, is the start of something big. Alberto Gonzales's Justice Department announced it only after Mr. Safavian had appeared in court and had been released without bail. The gambit was clearly intended to keep the story off television, and it worked.
It won't for long. The Enron odor emanating from Mr. Safavian is of a piece with the rest of the cronyism in the Katrina preparedness package. The handing off of FEMA from President Bush's 2000 campaign manager, Joe Allbaugh, to Mr. Allbaugh's even less qualified buddy, M
Also, Rhino has released the Chicago catalog. I just got the 3rd album.
Back in the day, before they turned into a wedding band, they were the shit.
Terry Kath baby.
Billy B
An example of why you should not play with guns.
A Hollywood producer who claimed to be making a TV show about the U.S. Department of Homeland Security with the approval of President George W. Bush was arrested on Friday and charged with bilking investors out of more than $5.5 million.
Was it Michael Chertoff?
sallyh,
maxine just hada bath, Ibrahim is cooking chicken and asparagus, and the 5-5 is kicking my ass.
we stood on the main street today, our local anti war demo was cool. every major cross street (university, 8th, 16th, and 23rd and 39th) all had antiwar folks. there was @ 2 dozen at our intersection. lots of honking, very few fingers.
bring the troops home!
She's English...
Oh, those fucking trolls
And that stupid-ass Anonymous, lecturing to everyone.
Why so sad herr doktor kitty mengele? Did a little kitty scratch you?
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cheeba, 24601
good test.
Sallyh, bedwetting has nothing to do with psychology or sociology. It's physiological. Talk about cruel. No wonder your daughter is so screwed up.
Eli--38 minutes to go!
Why so sad herr doktor kitty mengele? Did a little kitty scratch you?
Springtime4Hitler
Frist has all the fucking charisma of a corpse, doesn't he?
I just got back from DC.
I'm so discouraged that not only is the media ignoring the massive protest in DC today, and not only did the Democratic "leadership" run from it (I expected that from both) but the liberal bloggers seem to have declared a news blackout as well.
I'm disgusted.
She's English...
Liz Hurley?
dinner is served.
beatings will recomence later!
Keira Knightley?
Sallyh, bedwetting has nothing to do with psychology or sociology. It's physiological. Talk about cruel. No wonder your daughter is so screwed up.
jon
Dude, that was a low blow about Sally's daughter, okay?
And bedwetting, firestarting and cruelty to animals HAVE been cited as signs of a budding serial killer.
Hey, speaking of Tyco...
'Timothy Flanigan
Deputy Attorney General (designate)
If Flanigan is confirmed as the No. 2 at Justice, it will be his second time as Gonzales’s deputy. Flanigan, 51, was White House deputy counsel from 2001 to 2002 when Gonzales was counsel to the president. He helped Gonzales and the administration craft major national security initiatives after 9/11. Flanigan, who has a bachelor’s degree from Brigham Young University and a law degree from the University of Virginia, currently serves as senior vice president and counsel of corporate and international law at Tyco International. “He has no prosecutorial experience,” says a Senate Democratic aide. But Flanigan’s stint at Tyco, a company that has recently faced serious ethics scandals, has prepared him well for managing a large agency focused on law enforcement. At Tyco since 2002, Flanigan has been responsible for overseeing new ethics compliance policies. And as the father of 14 children, Flanigan is familiar with the role of shepherd. '
That's only the beginning.
Now, who is it?
fernandez tavares? it's a little scrunched. but in my imagination it's fernandez tavares.
An example of why you should not play with guns.
Terry C, Feminazi Moonba
Oh yes, my sweet.
Losing Kath was a real blow.
Jimi, upon catching Chicago at the Whiskey in 68, told Walt Parazaider that Kath could do shit on the axe that he couldn't do.
ding ding ding!!!
WTF was Hugh Grant thinking?
to Mr. Allbaugh's even less qualified buddy, M
Gollum
to be continued please.
Yay!
What do I win?
He's putting firecrackers in frogs and blowing them up?
And like other sociopaths and psycopaths, his complete lack of empathy and his enjoyment of inflicting deliberate acts of cruelty on defenceless creatures only grew boring until he could find bigger targets - like mentally retarded prisoners, American soldiers in wars he started for no reason except his own entertainment and most recently poor African American women and children and elderly people in nursing homes who died needlessly in a natural disaster.
Now Bush is effectively putting a firecracker up the ass of the middle class and enjoying watching it blow up and destroy their childrens' future.
He is a sick, sick man.
Any sex jokes please?
I need some good ones for a sex-type party next wk.
the liberal bloggers seem to have declared a news blackout as well.
NOTHING on AmericaBlog!
She's English...
Liz Hurley by Steven Meisel?
BushCo denies Robert Fisk entry into the US.
How Stalinist of BushCo.
jon--make a comment about my daughter again, and I will find your ISP, your IP address, and I will hunt you down and make you wish you'd never been born.
Gollum? More? Please?
had a good time at the nm state fair today with woody guthrie's guitar, gwpda, and nm red. then i went and donated $30 to the nm racing commission.
I heard Bush used to pick on Jeb when they were kids.
Till Jeb wound up bigger than he was and started kicking his ass.
bedwetting has nothing to do with psychology or sociology. It's physiological. jontroll
May I direct you to DSM code 307.6 Enuresis (Not Due to a General Medical Condition). As usual, not only a jerk but factually wrong.
And that stupid-ass Anonymous, lecturing to everyone.
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat
Me and The Lurking Mast fed anonypuss its little gherkin all day.
I was sad that it left because it thought it was cranking on us.
But, it was deluded.
bedwetting, firestarting and cruelty to animals
Meaningless. You people are supposed to be scientists but when it comes to anger and low blows you lose your minds like the worst wingnut.
jon--make a comment about my daughter again, and I will find your ISP, your IP address, and I will hunt you down and make you wish you'd never been born.
Sallyh
Really.
What a fucking asshole!
Ignore the trools, please.
Thank you.
"I need some good ones for a sex-type party next wk." -- ecoast
Sex-type? That sounds like something that I'd like clarified before deciding what to wear.
bedwetting, firestarting and cruelty to animals
Meaningless. You people are supposed to be scientists but when it comes to anger and low blows you lose your minds like the worst wingnut.
jon
Please show where we claimed to be scientists.
(Fuck, I am SO tired of these trolls!)
Why are they all coming on here, When they could be in Texas helping people?
because even the trolls have finally realized gw is a moral fuckwit. evidence, william kristol.
cognitive dissonance is a bitch.
Wow, Chicago Dyke--look at all those comments on your post at Kos. You hit a nerve--apparently quite a few readers over there aren't too keen on the proferred notion that some people shouldn't be allowed at a rally in order to enhance its "effectiveness."
Count me as one of those who not only like the so-called "freaks," but understand that they are necessary.
As Molly Ivins puts it:
"So keep fightin' for freedom and justice, beloveds, but don't you forget to have fun doin' it. Lord, let your laughter ring forth. Be outrageous, ridicule the fraidy-cats, rejoice in all the oddities that freedom can produce. And when you get through kickin' ass and celebratin' the sheer joy of a good fight, be sure to tell those who come after how much fun it was."
Hmm, the music for the end of JFK sounds like the slow movement of Shostakovitch's 5th symphony. Happy birthday Shostakovitch tomorrow!
Hmm, the music for the end of JFK sounds like the slow movement of Shostakovitch's 5th symphony. Happy birthday Shostakovitch tomorrow!
(Fuck, I am SO tired of these trolls!)
Stop feeding them and they'll go away.
bedwetting has nothing to do with psychology or sociology. It's physiological.
Jon, not all bedwetters are serial killers, but all serial killers are bedwetters. The connection is there and too prevalent to be ignored. Look it up - it is a statistic quoted regularly by FBI profilers.
because even the trolls have finally realized gw is a moral fuckwit. evidence, william kristol.
KRISTOL is busting on DUMBya now?
he is a sick, sick man.
He's not sick. He's an asshole and must be removed from power.
Meaningless. You people are supposed to be scientists but when it comes to anger and low blows you lose your minds like the worst wingnut.
Uh, you want to try that again there, incoherent fuckstick?
it is a statistic quoted regularly by FBI profilers.
Stinky
Robert Ressler, for one.
He's worked on many cases of serial killers.
Robert Fisk kept out of US by "jon"'s best friend, the Neo-Nazi Bush.
to Mr. Allbaugh's even less qualified buddy, M
Gollum
to be continued please.
There was an M Gollum at FEMA?
Explains a lot...
BTW jontrollbot, try looking up Schadenfreude and see if your picture is there.
You will hunt me down because I stated what everyone already knows, straight from your mouth, that your daughter is having problems. That is not a threat on my part, but if I'm not mistaken, you did just threaten me.
'We cannont afford the luxury of continual war', from an elderly gentleman (Biloxi, MS) at the protest in DC.
'You can't support the troops if you don't support their mission', from a pro-war demonstrator. And evidently, they feel that we 'dominated the discussion about freedom' in America. I must have missed that day.
Terry C--I am one. Not a psychologist, but familiar enough to understand the statistical correlation between enuresis, animal cruelty, pyrophilia and sociopathy.
The Komissars at Kos hate ANSWER.
jon--I certainly did threaten you, and I meant it.
Tired of ranting online? Sick of waiting for the media to start doing their job? Why not help spread the word yourself?
It's easy: just print and distribute a few pages like:
http://psstpsstpsst1.blogspot.co...ptember-
24.html
BLACKOUT!! Washington DC, September 24, 2005 by William Rivers Pitt
http://psstpsstpsst1.blogspot.co...ic-
dissent.html
Patriotic Dissent by Cindy Sheehan
http://psstpsstpsst1.blogspot.co...ver-
ending.html
War! What Is It Good For? Never-Ending Profits! by Chris Floyd
There's a lot more where these came from... so Please visit http://psstpsstpsst.blogspot.com and Be The Media! ... because somebody's gonna have to do it!!
KRISTOL is busting on DUMBya now?
For real?!
Kristol's one of the big wheels in PNAC, if I recall correctly.
piss off, jon. we don't like your kind.
The Komissars at Kos hate ANSWER.
Nûr al-Cubicle
Same w/ AmericaBlog. Most rancorous thread I've read over there, a few weeks ago.
M
Gollum
aka Brownie!
.
"I'm disgusted."
semper fubar
When the neo cons finally fall from power, I hope there will be a investigation into the media’s role in supporting the junta.
I want to see a massive trial, like Nuremberg, with the Wolfs, Cokies, Timmy’s all in the dock with headphones on. (I was only obeying orders, will not be permitted as a defence.)
'You can't support the troops if you don't support their mission', from a pro-war demonstrator.
Why isn't HE over there then?
but all serial killers are bedwetters
Stinky, do you know the difference between deductive and inductive logic?
Jon, stop it with the slander. You are attacking the wrong person. You don't know Sally or her daughter.
USmokes- i'm going to have one. i'm worn out. tee hee, that was my first (that i left up for more than 2 mins) post at Kos. they are a sensitve bunch, fer sure.
Mmm...waiter! Can I get some coffee with this troll?
'We cannont afford the luxury of continual war', from an elderly gentleman (Biloxi, MS) at the protest in DC.
"Luxury" is kind of an odd choice of words...
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September 25, 2005
Bring Back Warren Harding
By FRANK RICH
THERE
are no coincidences. On Monday, as L. Dennis Kozlowski was slapped with
8 to 25 years in jail for looting Tyco International of some $150
million, the feds were making their first arrest of a high-ranking
member of the Bush administration. The official was David Safavian, the
chief of White House federal procurement policy who once worked for
Jack Abramoff, the sleazy Republican lobbyist whose disreputable client
list, in another noncoincidence, included Tyco. While it's an accident
of timing that Mr. Safavian was collared at his suburban Virginia home
just as Mr. Kozlowski was sent to the slammer in New York, the two
events could not better bracket a corrupt era worthy of the Gilded Age.
Ours will be remembered as the Enron era. Enron itself is a
distant memory - much like all that circa 2000 talk of a smoothly
efficient C.E.O. presidency led by a Harvard M.B.A. and a former chief
executive of Halliburton. But even as American business has since been
purged by prosecutions and reforms, the mutant Enron version of the
C.E.O. culture still rules in Washington: uninhibited cronyism, cooked
books, special-favors networks, the banishment of whistle-blowers and
accountability. More than ideology, this ethos has sabotaged even the
best of American intentions, whether in Iraq or New Orleans. Unchecked,
it promises greater disasters to come.
As recently as 10 days
ago, when he resigned before his arrest, Mr. Safavian was the man who
set purchasing policy for the entire federal government, including that
related to Hurricane Katrina relief. The White House might as well have
appointed a contestant from "The Apprentice." Before entering public
service, Mr. Safavian's main claim to fame was as a lobbyist whose
clients included Indian gaming interests and thuggish African regimes.
Mr. Safavian now faces charges of lying and obstructing the
investigation of Mr. Abramoff, the Tom DeLay-Ralph Reed-Grover Norquist
pal who is being investigated by more agencies than looked into 9/11.
Mr. Abramoff's greasy K Street influence-peddling network makes the
Warren Harding gang, which operated out of its own infamous "little
green house on K Street," look like selfless stewards of the public
good.
You know that the arrest of Mr. Safavian, one of three
known Abramoff alumni to migrate into the administration, is the start
of something big. Alberto Gonzales's Justice Department announced it
only after Mr. Safavian had appeared in court and had been released
without bail. The gambit was clearly intended to keep the story off
television, and it worked.
It won't for long. The Enron odor
emanating from Mr. Safavian is of a piece with the rest of the cronyism
in the Katrina preparedness package. The handing off of FEMA from
President Bush's 2000 campaign manager, Joe Allbaugh, to Mr. A
I would love to have seen the signs the pro-murder...er, pro-war chickenhawk brigade was carrying.
The spelling mistakes alone would probably be good for a laugh.
some people shouldn't be allowed at a rally in order to enhance its "effectiveness."
People who think this need to be smacked the fuck up until the wingnuttiness departs from their possessed souls.
They always have the dumbest trolls here. It's sad really.
G-O-O-G-L-E-.-C-O-M
I love that joke
Hmm, the music for the end of JFK sounds like the slow movement of Shostakovitch's 5th symphony. Happy birthday Shostakovitch tomorrow!
A very brave man, and surprisingly quite patriotic. I re-read his autobiography and shared some of it with one of my classes and it was really scary how much of it could have been written today, right here in the good ol' US of A. The slow movement of that symphony that Stalin liked, the one that saved Shostakovich's ass, was written as a memorial to all of Stalin's victims.
(I was only obeying orders, will not be permitted as a defence.)
sally
more likely "I did it for the wealth, prestige and celebrity status it gave me. You see it was just business."
.
'You can't support the troops if you don't support their mission', from a pro-war demonstrator.
Why isn't HE over there then?
No shit. Plus that's just a stupid, illogical thing to say. He also failed to realize that you can support the mission and not support the troops.
Hey, that sounds really, really familiar!
"Frist has all the fucking charisma of a corpse, doesn't he?"
I thought he was a corpse.
if I'm not mistaken, you did just threaten me.
The Great Cornholio everyone! Let's all give him some TP for his bunghole. As usual our unAmerican liar trolls love nothing more than to dig deep into the backs of their drawers and pull out a steaming personal opinion.
BTW troll, we call that Encopresis (DSM codes 787.6 or 307.7). Feel free to seek treatment. Email me and I'd be happy to find you a referral.
after building my own brewery, i am happy to report i have beer.
tomorrow, i'll build a refinery.
next week, i'll found my own country.
There's a reason that I don't even bother reading kos...
Such subtle and sophisticated analysis and critique on this board of the genetic theory of intelligence. Then, some halfwit nonsense about bedwetting and what the FBI already knows.
Oh, Jon?
Did you know that Atrios has had guest bloggers in the past? And that they all have access to his blog's dashboard?
And that they all can read your IP address?
Just thought you should know that, before you continue slandering Sally.
You know that the arrest of Mr. Safavian, one of three known Abramoff alumni to migrate into the administration, is the start of something big.
i don't know how long they can keep getting away with it, but this keeps up and the cronyism and corruption ot the bush regime may make the ignominy of nixon's tenure look like candy stealing.
people have soured on the iraq adventure. zaharwi puts a video out every 3 months, and mother nature is clearly pissed. the gloss is gone.
That is not a threat on my part, but if I'm not mistaken, you did just threaten me.
jon
Fuck you. If you do not have enough sense or class to refrain from commenting on people's children, then all is fair game.
I will personally accompany Sallyh in her hunt for you. When we find you, I'll tear your nuts off with my bare hand.
That is not a threat. It is a promise.
Book it.
How come we keep getting the first half of that Frank Rich piece?
'You can't support the troops if you don't support their mission', from a pro-war demonstrator. And evidently, they feel that we 'dominated the discussion about freedom' in America. I must have missed that day.
Ripley
I guess the 100 of them "cancelled out" the quarter of a million anti-war people.
Stupid and delusional - that's why they love DUMBya so much and continue to support his shipwreck of a preznit-cy.
"next week, i'll found my own country." -- seaxneat (fka PoppieProng)
I hear the name Petoria is taken.
"Frist has all the fucking charisma of a corpse, doesn't he?"
I thought he was a corpse.
he reminds me of frankenstein's son.
which, by the way, i have an argument how you can call frankenstein's son "frankenstein" and still be correct.
"Luxury" is kind of an odd choice of words...
Eli
No doubt someone not used to speaking or even thinking.
.
jon | 09.24.05 - 8:35 pm | #
Get a fucking life.
Hey, that sounds really, really familiar!
Observe as that same idiot clams up when the conversation turns to Kosovo.
Well Seaxnet, not owning a brewery to start with was your own choice!
I hear the name Petoria is taken.
damn. well, i'll call it poppieprongia and call it a day. 
Stinky, do you know the difference between deductive and inductive logic?
jon
Is what I said factually wrong? If it is, by all means, give me some new stats that disprove there is any prevalent correlation between bedwetting and serial killers.
Such subtle and sophisticated analysis and critique on this board of the genetic theory of intelligence.
Bush supporter!
Big antiwar rally just breaking up in SF and Oakland....
I have spoken here about my daughter because I am among friends, trusted ones, who have given me solace and good advice.
No matter what, she is still my daughter, I love her, and I will do whatever she needs me to do to help her.
Jon, coming in after me shows that you are a coward and a fool. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.
Such subtle and sophisticated analysis and critique on this board of the genetic theory of intelligence.
Uh oh.
We gots ourselves a live one, folks.
Well Seaxnet, not owning a brewery to start with was your own choice!
it was, and i suffered greatly for it. but 'twas my fault.
i have now corrected it, because subsistence survivalism is what life is all about.
especially in the free market.
For the Googley-challenged, here's the MacDonald Triad, and other ideas about serial killer psychology.
Frist has all the fucking charisma of a corpse, doesn't he?"
I thought he was a corpse.
he reminds me of frankenstein's son.
which, by the way, i have an argument how you can call frankenstein's son "frankenstein" and still be correct.
seaxneat (fka PoppieProng)
Frist, Rumsfeld, Santorum, Cheney, and Perry.
They all look like Dr, Frankenstein's FAILED experiments.
Evening, occasionally rational people!
Kudos to all you peace marchers -- you were in my prayers -- glad things went to well
In reference to the posts below about monks getting attacked by Vikings -- I have always thouhgt that there is something archetypal about monks grabbing the church's valuables and running off to escape the fury of the Norsemen -- believe it or not, one of the reasons for celibacy is that it makes it easier to rely on non-violent resistance (to not resort to violence when spouse or children are threatened requires unnatural heroism) -- AND why were you even reading that troll, much less feeding him? If you want to suffer like that, go read Ayn Rand!
How come we keep getting the first half of that Frank Rich piece?
The Kenosha Kid
Haloscan can't count past 3000.
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i was at the march today. there were a ton of poeple and a really good vibe. i haven't read any comments about it yet (and of course none on tv) -- what's the word on the number of people there?
i don't know how long they can keep getting away with it
Only until the corporate media stops fluffing them, or they get so sloppy that they not only neglect to cover their tracks, they neglect to payoff/frighten the people in the criminal justice system who can take them down.
The corporate media love the GOP. They not only got lovely corporate tax cuts and other breaks, but also the gutting of the FCC's anti-trust regulations.
This is why growing our own media is so critical to America's survival.
disprove there is any prevalent correlation between bedwetting and serial killers.
So now you've dropped the conjuction with cruelty and firestarting?
Such subtle and sophisticated analysis and critique on this board of the genetic theory of intelligence.
Uh oh.
We gots ourselves a live one, folks.
And yes, he *is* a psychiatrist.
mmmmm MacDonald Triad....
No doubt someone not used to speaking or even thinking.
He was just an elderly man. I think he was using 'luxury' with a bit of irony.
He also failed to realize that you can support the mission and not support the troops.
i know one thing, i don't support fuck'n or smoke'n PUC's. but i generally see that as a gross failure of leadership, brought about by the torture policy memos.
you don't need to have been a psycholoigist to have known that was the inevitable consequence.
bite me albert.
Uh oh.
We gots ourselves a live one, folks.
pie
You tickle the shit out of me, pie.
Uh oh.
We gots ourselves a live one, folks.
pie
Or at least someone who discovered Kettel Red Bull and Socrates while doing his Philosophy 101 homework.
I discuss the number of people at the march on my blog.
"May I direct you to DSM code 307.6 Enuresis (Not Due to a General Medical Condition)."
Would you expect the DSM to report that enuresis was an obstetrical problem?
Besides, mental disorders ARE physiological disorders and general medical disorders.
You ought to be ashamed of yourself.
Well, I used to talk about hell and snowballs...
Ignore him, darling. He's so freaking clueless, it's pathetic.
This is why growing our own media is so critical to America's survival.
i agree. even my benefit-of-the-doubt mother was stunned at the orwellian language- and reality-control that happened in houston these past few days.
Why is it that when we talked of Bush sharing the three traits seen in serial killers our troll got all pissy?
Must be a supporter of preznit fuckwit!
Well, it's pretty much turned into a 'rain event' here. So everbody relax if you were uptight about it all. Right before I went to sleep this morning the power lines were apparently knocked off-line but the generator immediately kicked in and when I woke up a little while ago, it was still running. I've been wanting the rain for months now and this is perfect. Now I don't have to stand out in the yard anymore this year and water with a water hose.
"disprove there is any prevalent correlation between bedwetting and serial killers."
"So now you've dropped the conjuction with cruelty and firestarting?"
You guys know I killed because of Playboy, right?
what's the word on the number of people there?
fat sam
Even the FOXNEWS AP story says "tens of thousands".
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Feels good, real good...
Don’t worry about it Sallyh.
The troll is a moron, and that is why he is wasting his life on a board of opinions he does not understand, or respect.
Like all trolls, they are big and loud on their bar stools, but not very prominent at the army recruiting offices.
Glad you're OK, Incog.
Speaking of the anti-war rally:
George Galloway speaks.
Here's a partial transcript (done on the fly, so treat this as a rush transcript):
There is an absolute need for your country and my country to stand shoulder to shoulder against the war criminals Tony Blair and George W. Bush, and to thus demonstrate to the people of the world and particularly the people of the occupied world that these criminals are not acting in our name.
This is not any clash of civilizations. This is not a war between the people of the West and the people of the East. This is not a war between the religions of Christianity and Islam.
George Bush doesn't represent any civilization. George Bush and Tony Blair certainly don't represent Jesus Christ and the great religion of Christianity. Christianity believes in the prophets, peace be upon them. Tony Blair and George Bush believe in profits and how to get a piece of them. Mammon, that's what they worship.
None of us is the enemy of the soldiers in the British and American forces. We love our troops. In fact, we love our troops so much we want to bring them home before any more of them are killed, before any more of them are maimed.
Our soldiers, conscripted by unemployment and poor prospects and hopelessness, are our sons and daughters. It's George Bush, who's sending them to be killed on a pack of lies, who hates our troops.
"This is why growing our own media is so critical to America's survival." --
Phoenix Woman
I have the "Keith Olbermann Chia Pet" on my Christmas list already.
You tickle the shit out of me, pie.
Who, me?
Gosh.
So OK, the mous traps evidenyly got set. Now we need to flush the jon.
Back later, batses. Gotta dump the litter box and have supper. Thorough handwashing between said items.
Frist, Rumsfeld, Santorum, Cheney, and Perry.
They all look like Dr, Frankenstein's FAILED experiments.
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat
ROFL!!!
you were in my prayers
Thank you, Prior! It was a perfect day for marching, cool and overcast.
I look at Bush and there is no there there. Without Karl Rove to tell him what to do, he would be nothing. Beyond his own selfish needs, he stands for nothing, believes in nothing, and cares about nothing. All is artifice. If Karl gets taken out by the Plame affair or some other legal entanglement, the power vacuum in the White House will resemble the giant black hole at the center of our galaxy.
I suggested in a previous thread that under such circumstances, that I could see him actually committing suicide. Unlike previous instances where he got in trouble and simply bailed out (with help, usually from Daddy's friends) I don't think that's an option this time. Resigning and thus in effect admitting he's a failure (particularly to his father) would simply be too humiliating for the arrogant prick. On the other hand, actually being president (as opposed to just pretending to be one) is way beyond his capabilities. He's more in over his head than Brownie ever was. With that, his situation may become untenable. At the very minimum, I would expect to see obvious signs of emotional instability. It will be interesting to see how media suckups like Wolf Blitzer will try to spin them away.
Incog! You're OK!
(((hug)))
"This is why growing our own media is so critical to America's survival." --
Phoenix Woman
I have the "Keith Olbermann Chia Pet" on my Christmas list already.
Marcia Brady,SaneByComparison
I think I found some Bill O'Reilly growing in the back of my fridge...
i was at the march today. there were a ton of poeple and a really good vibe. i haven't read any comments about it yet (and of course none on tv) -- what's the word on the number of people there?
fat sam
I heard 250,000-300,000 in DC (as opposed to 100-150 of Fuckwads for Bush).
You know, of course, that the media will lowball it. That's their job, after all; must serve their Repug masters.
I was stressing this morning but it's cool now. There are tons of small limbs all over the yard but nothing the lawn-mower can't handle.
I think I found some Bill O'Reilly growing in the back of my fridge...
Jay C.
{{{{Incog}}}}
what could be more all-american than beating arabs with baseball bats?
nice place you got there, kenosha!
Incog, I'm glad to hear that you and yours are fine. I hope String is doing well.
Daily Kos declares "Bush is selling Katrina victims into sex slavery"
Source
"On Wedneday, Bush issued a waiver exempting the Saudis from financial penalties associated with the child sex trade, prostitution, etc.
There are many missing children in the wake of Katrina.
After the tsunami there was great concern that many of the children left without families due to that disaster had disappeared into Asian, Middle Eastern sex trade rings.
I know there must be an easy explanation why Bush did what he did yesterday. But I'm sure it must have something to do with oil, but in Bushworld we can't take anything for granted, can we?"
Yeah.. this site is pretty much the core of the party, and they think Bush is selling Katrina victims to the Saudis
I suggested in a previous thread that under such circumstances, that I could see him actually committing suicide
Richard, Bush wouldn't kill the only person in the world he cares about.
incog, were you in danger? were you in rita, or was there some other big storm in the deep south?
(sorry, local news took a local focus on EVERYTHING this weekend.)
"On Wedneday, Bush issued a waiver exempting the Saudis from financial penalties associated with the child sex trade, prostitution, etc.
There are many missing children in the wake of Katrina.
After the tsunami there was great concern that many of the children left without families due to that disaster had disappeared into Asian, Middle Eastern sex trade rings."
Oh, shit! I never thought of that
I have the "Keith Olbermann Chia Pet" on my Christmas list already.
There's also the Paul Krugman, Joe Conason and Gene Lyons editions.
Oh, and here's Amy Goodman's telephone interview with that dangerous man Robert Fisk, the guy that BushCo won't let into the US. He's another Media Chia Pet candidate.
"I was stressing this morning but it's cool now. There are tons of small limbs all over the yard but nothing the lawn-mower can't handle." -- Incog
How did String handle everything?
If the religious right believes in so-called Intelligent Design, then explain how it skipped the Bush family, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Harris, Frist and Perry?
String handled it better than me. She never broke a sweat.
At least 100,000 demonstrators jammed the streets of Washington to protest both the war and globalism. Thousands of other pacifists turned out in London, San Francisco and Los Angeles. It will take a popular movement to stop this war, declared Cindy Sheehan. We are going to be the counterweight to this criminal government, which is out of control.
By the end of the afternoon march organizers estimated that there were 300,000 demonstrators.
"BUSH, CATEGORY 5 CATASTROPHE". Small groups of up to 3,000 people demonstrated in front of the World Bank protesting the abolition of import duties, saying it is the ruin of fragile econonmies.
A cruel wind is blowing across America, from Texas to Montana, right through the heart of our country, said US Representative Cynthia McKinney (Dem).
Besides pacifists and social forum demonstators, the march on Washington attracted anarchists, communists and ecology activists, who called for the lifting of the embargo on Cuba and shouted their solidarity with Hugo Chavez.
In London, 10,000 Stop the War demonstrators marched. There were no incidents.
In Paris, 120 ANSWER members marches in the Place de la Concorde.
Richard--Bush wants to kill everyone else, not himself. He's the universe to himself. Nothing else matters.
Here's some actual research, from a study of over 800 firesetters:
Title: ENURESIS, FIRESETTING, AND CRUELTY TO ANIMALS: DOES THE EGO TRIAD SHOW PREDICTIVE VALIDITY? , By: Slavkin, Michael Lawrence, Adolescence, 0001-8449, September 1, 2001, Vol. 36, Issue 143
The relevant results: No relationship was found between firesetting recidivism and the presence of enuresis, X2 (1) = .16, p = .82. However, juveniles who were identified as being cruel to animals were more likely than those who were not cruel to animals to engage in recidivistic firesetting, X2 (1) = 25.88, p = .001. When the ego triad was assessed using an analysis of variance (the presence of enuresis and cruelty to animals as relating to recidivistic behaviors), the two-way interaction was not statistically significant, F = 1.69, df = 1, p = .23. Interestingly, the level of enuresis in the firesetters was significantly higher than in a normative sample of juveniles, t = 6.41, p = .02 (Health Examination Survey Cycle III, 1978 ).
And some discussion: The hypothesis tested in this study was that the presence of enuresis and cruelty to animals in juvenile firesetters would be significantly related to recidivistic firesetting. This hypothesis emerged from Yarnell's belief that there is an ego triad among juvenile firesetters, which links the occurrence of enuresis, cruelty to animals and others, and firesetting in youth.
No differences were found in firesetting recidivism based on the presence of enuresis. However, juveniles who were identified as being cruel to animals were more likely than those who were not cruel to animals to engage in recidivistic firesetting behaviors. Further, the incidence of enuresis was elevated in the present sample when compared with a normative sample.
Although cruelty to animals seems to hold potential as a predictor of recidivistic firesetting, it is most likely an externalizing behavior that correlates highly with delinquency. Justice, Justice, and Kraft (1974) have asserted that the ego triad largely occurs simultaneously with factors that may be better predictors of violent adult behaviors.
While enuresis may not be an indicator of recidivistic firesetting, it would appear to be an effective marker of the problematic behaviors that are comorbid with firesetting in juveniles. In addition, the significant difference in enuresis between a normative population and the present sample is noteworthy.
What you got, trollboy?
they think Bush is selling Katrina victims to the Saudis
Gary Ruppert
Oh, great - we get rid of one troll and another tags in!
Hey, Gary - prove that he isn't.
Yeah.. this site is pretty much the core of the party, and they think Bush is selling Katrina victims to the Saudis
Gary Ruppert
Yes. And we believe Bush is selling them as sex slaves. Yes. And we believe Bush was responsible for the two Gulf hurricanes. Yes. And we believe Bush is a monumental blight on the American landscape.
Which one of these three statements is true?
Yeah.. this site is pretty much the core of the party, and they think Bush is selling Katrina victims to the Saudis
Gary Ruppert
Yes. And we believe Bush is selling them as sex slaves. Yes. And we believe Bush was responsible for the two Gulf hurricanes. Yes. And we believe Bush is a monumental blight on the American landscape.
Which one of these three statements is true?
The sandbags were overdoing it but better safe than sorry and the river sand we used to fill them will go great in the garden this spring.
Richard--Bush wants to kill everyone else, not himself. He's the universe to himself. Nothing else matters.
Sallyh
The textbook sociopath.
Incog--glad to hear that String made it through well. And you.
You tickle the shit out of me, pie.
Who, me?
Gosh.
pie
Yes, baby-doll you do. You are a funny lady, my dear.
TC's a hoot too. She's got that Joisey thang going.
" If the religious right believes in so-called Intelligent Design, then explain how it skipped the Bush family, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Harris, Frist and Perry?" --
Dartanyon
Rough drafts?
Incog,
I'm glad you and String made it through the storm ok. Been thinking about getting a generator of my own. What kind do you have?
Wasn't it nice of W to get out of town so that his presence would not impede the effort?
Katrina Missing Children, The Saudis & Bush: A Link?
Jeez, even Bushco couldn't be that evil? Could he?
Ignore and they'll go away.
If the religious right believes in so-called Intelligent Design, then explain how it skipped the Bush family, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Harris, Frist and Perry?
Dartanyon
Yeah, really!
Bush wants to kill everyone else
And Bush has made you homicidal.
Hey, Gary - prove that he isn't.
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat
When did you stop beating your wife?
"Yes. And we believe Bush is selling them as sex slaves. Yes. And we believe Bush was responsible for the two Gulf hurricanes. Yes. And we believe Bush is a monumental blight on the American landscape.
Which one of these three statements is true?" -- Shaw Kenawe
I heard Bush is going to marry a carrot.
Katrina Missing Children, The Saudis & Bush: A Link?
Jeez, even Bushco couldn't be that evil? Could he?
Dartanyon
Yep!
At least 100,000 demonstrators jammed the streets of Washington
I stayed home blearily clutching my box of Kleenex, but saw nothing about the protest on the news. They did find time to show Bush shaking hands somewhere damp in Texas.
"If the religious right believes in so-called Intelligent Design, then explain how it skipped the Bush family, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Harris, Frist and Perry?" --
Dartanyon
Rough drafts?
Marcia Brady, SaneByComparison
That would explain it.
well, the saudis did require IDs for their camel jockeys so that no children would be trafficked for the camel races.
not kidding.
Hecate, I don't know what kind it is. It's a unit that sits behind where I live in a little shed. This morning, the electricity failed and it was like, boom, it kicked in. I'll find out for you. It runs off natural gas.
When did you stop beating your wife?
Gary Ruppert
You have NO idea how thoroughly STUPID that question IS, do you?
They did find time to show Bush shaking hands somewhere damp in Texas.
ah, so he did get down here after not being down here even though he was down here.
Bianca? Bianca Ruppert, is that you?
I was stressing this morning but it's cool now. There are tons of small limbs all over the yard but nothing the lawn-mower can't handle.
Collect them up and store them for your next camping trip. That way you won't have to cut down trees (or buy pre-cut logs) for firewood while camping.
And boy, I'm glad you're OK!
Besides, mental disorders ARE physiological disorders and general medical disorders. Luke
Can't decide on a persona, trollboy? May I direct you further to criterion D: The behavior is not due exclusively to the direct physiological effect of a substance (e.g., a diuretic) or a general medical condition (e.g., diabetes, spina bifida, a seizure disorder).
Why do you think we call you dopes?
Kinda kewl never having to worry about the power going off.
Boy are you people quick to psychoanalyze everyone. Wait till someone turns these tools on you. Then, you adopt the position that these are ungrounded and controversial sciences.
It's George Bush, who's sending them to be killed on a pack of lies, who hates our troops.
Phoenix Woman |
This whole thing really makes me furious. It's the Bush junta who are responsible for the stop loss orders that keep these poor people in perpetual slavery to the DOD.
It's the Bush Junta who failed to arm them properly. Who sent them on a fool's mission, who got them stuck in hell, and then cut their benefits to the fucking bone.
I am sick to fucking death of being told that those of us who want peace and justice "don't support the troops." It's an empty, meaningless nothing - because we care about people, we want the killing and the maiming to end. Now what the fucking goddamned hell - That is supposed to be the way it is when you care about people. Wasn't that the message of all those goddamned WWII movies? Get the war over with? We love our families? Jayzuz - They are saying the only way to support our military is by getting them killed in a perpetual fucking war. Goddamn it.
At least a majority of Americans now see that, too.
Bush wants to kill everyone else
And Bush has made you homicidal.
jon
You mean you DISAGREE that Bush wants to kill everyone else?
Jeez, even Bushco couldn't be that evil? Could he?
Yes.
not due exclusively
Need a logic lesson jeff?
I've been tuning into CNN & MSNBC all day and it's all "Rita" all the time.
Wasn't there a massive demonstration against Bushboy's war for oil in Washington today or is the media just to chicken to show it???
Tena: :
+:
When did you stop beating your wife?
Gary Ruppert
Uh, ruppeepee, TC is a lady.
Yes I realize the cliche is a cliche, but you are a fool.
Flick that Bic, dog dick. You'll thank me.
Kinda kewl never having to worry about the power going off.
so how does it work? i've been interested in that. do you hook appliances up to it, or does it connect to your house where the line from the grid comes in?
Terry C,
Would you please stop feeding it?
On Wedneday, Bush issued a waiver exempting the Saudis from financial penalties associated with the child sex trade, prostitution, etc.
Ahem.
I'm not saying one way or another on the veracity of the claims, just wanted to toss a bit of of the past into the mix.
Anybody heard from agave?
I am amazed that Ruppert has the nerve to keep coming back here, such is the humiliation he has received.
Why bother, when you keep getting your ass handed to you.
Jeez, even Bushco couldn't be that evil? Could he?
Yes.
BlakNo1
Yep, if it would make Bushco money, they'd do it!
"So keep fightin' for freedom and justice, beloveds, but don't you forget to have fun doin' it. Lord, let your laughter ring forth. Be outrageous, ridicule the fraidy-cats, rejoice in all the oddities that freedom can produce. And when you get through kickin' ass and celebratin' the sheer joy of a good fight, be sure to tell those who come after how much fun it was."
Uncle Smokes
I am of the opinion that Molly Ivins should be required reading in all civics classes in America.
Tena,
Well put. How mean and brutish our country has become when simple humanity and compassion are considered unacceptable by so many people.
Ok Terry C..
When did you stop beating your husband?
Terry C,
Would you please stop feeding it?
Central Scrutinizer
Okay!
Kinda kewl never having to worry about the power going off.
oh, man, agave. wasn't he somewhere between conroe and houston or something? that area got it pretty bad. i feel so bad for the people who evacuated to the east, to places like beaumont, lake charles, and up toward dallas.
Anybody heard from agave?
Oh hell, that reminds me...been gone for a day or so...is Walter Neff okay? I thought his surgery was happening this week.
By the way:
New torture allegations against US troops in Afghanistan.
It looks like, just as with the previous allegations, the troops knew full well that most of the people they were torturing were innocent of the charges that got them imprisioned in the first place.
Okay!
Thanks dear!
I have no idea what I ever did to jon to get a sucker punch like I did, but Monsieur is home, and he's going to be sorry.
Poppy Bush and Henry Kissinger are members of the Jason Society.
So I guess child sex slavery brokered by Little Boots isn't such a stretch.
And Bush has made you homicidal.
Hilarious.
What's incredibly sad is that he has made an awful lot of people, who enjoyed a relatively peaceful existence, homicides or homicidal.
Wow.
They did find time to show Bush shaking hands somewhere damp in Texas.
Did they find him some negroes to hug?
I believe it was Thurs., Uncle S, but I haven't heard anything yet.
"Yes. And we believe Bush is selling them as sex slaves. Yes. And we believe Bush was responsible for the two Gulf hurricanes. Yes. And we believe Bush is a monumental blight on the American landscape." --
Shaw Kenawe
I heard Bush is being jumped into a gang this weekend, but first he has to drive around with his headlights off and kill the first person that courtesy-flashes him.
BTW --
My comments above abuot non-violence had nothing to do with sallyh's understandable response to to the troll -- I jumped to the end of the thread to post & then skim-scrolled up
Sallyh -- You & your family remain in my prayers
The numbers in DC must have been immense -- certainly compared to Rumsfeld's joke march where the turnout was was so embarrassingly paltry that they pulled down the website!
CNN is talking about how the hurricane Rita might impact your life.
Did you know that your home owner's insurance might rise, even if you don't live in TX or LA?
How about the war in Iraq? Do they think that will effect our lives? Or is just those poor bastards that "volunteered" for the military or the reserves/national guard???
Does "news" get more cowardly or more sycophantic?
I am sick to fucking death of being told that those of us who want peace and justice "don't support the troops."
Tena,
Part of the BushCo.'s "offset" to help pay for the hurricane catastrophe will be to decrease health benefits for the military. Reported in the Navy newspaper.
The BushCo. does NOT support the troops.
They are a blight on the American landscape.
Hey, CS, I have to ask:
Which MST3K host do you prefer, Joel or Mike?
Sallyh, please ignore the asshole.
He's sick.
It looks like, just as with the previous allegations, the troops knew full well that most of the people they were torturing were innocent of the charges that got them imprisioned in the first place.
and surely, surely no one in the chain of command knew that it was happening, right?
so which is it? malfeasance or misfeasance? both are grounds for dismissal for a CEO.
"So keep fightin' for freedom and justice, beloveds, but don't you forget to have fun doin' it. Lord, let your laughter ring forth. Be outrageous, ridicule the fraidy-cats, rejoice in all the oddities that freedom can produce. And when you get through kickin' ass and celebratin' the sheer joy of a good fight, be sure to tell those who come after how much fun it was."
Uncle Smokes
I am of the opinion that Molly Ivins should be required reading in all civics classes in America.
Diane
I (heart) Molly Ivins.
I heard Bush is being jumped into a gang this weekend, but first he has to drive around with his headlights off and kill the first person that courtesy-flashes him.
Incog - I'm glad every thing is ok. I guess it's more than ok - you found you how nifty your generator is. That is very kewl.
Hurricane Rita is so last week.
Come on cable news, get off the teet and turn the page.
Prior A--we're not homicidal. But we do believe in lawyers.
Which MST3K host do you prefer, Joel or Mike?
Phoenix Woman
I liked Joel.
Another trait of the homicidal. Takes internet chat boards too seriously. Does the FBI have a study of that?
Hey, my aunt & uncle just got power back in Houston a few minutes ago. Good news there at least...
Eli--your dream girl, Danica McKellar, is on 
Which MST3K host do you prefer, Joel or Mike?
Joel, hands down.
Mike's OK, I suppose, but he just doesn't do it for me.
Did you know that your home owner's insurance might rise, even if you don't live in TX or LA?
of course it will. because large corporations never suffer for screwing people over. just like large tort rewards--they just raise prices to cover it.
punitive damages are supposed to be punitive and they are supposed to dissuade people from doing bad things. true tort reform would but caps on the ability of a mal-doer to raise rates to cover its losses.
and insurance companies are hardly insurance.
I heard Bush is being jumped into a gang this weekend, but first he has to drive around with his headlights off and kill the first person that courtesy-flashes him.
...and when they found the bodies, "Stairway To Heaven" was still playing on the stereo!
While we're at it, Bubble yum is made from spider eggs.
Now, who is it?
cheeba, 24601
Son of a bitch. How did you get a picture of my girlfriend?
Jay C--good news indeed.
Eli--your dream girl, Danica McKellar, is on
I actually didn't watch much Wonder Years, and when I did, I was paying a lot more attention to Olivia d'Abo.
Wow. Least. Convincing. Oil. Rig. Worker. Ever.
I saw another picture of the rally on the Ellipse a while ago (at Jeff Goldstein's place, as a matter of fact) and it looked like a much bigger turnout that what I was seeing on C-SPAN. How could a single event (if that's what it was) generate two such different impressions?
Was the C-SPAN coverage dedicated to some sideshow or was that the main stage?
I heard Bush is being jumped into a gang this weekend, but first he has to drive around with his headlights off and kill the first person that courtesy-flashes him.
The variation we heard on this in middle-school D.A.R.E. classes in San Diego? To get into the gang, he also has to sleep with a girl who has AIDS.
Oh hell, that reminds me...been gone for a day or so...is Walter Neff okay? I thought his surgery was happening this week.
Uncle Smokes
I've been thinking about him, too. Have we heard from Walter since the surgery, or am I being naive about his ability to do much for quite some after the operation?
"Wow. Least. Convincing. Oil. Rig. Worker. Ever" -- Eli
Olivia d'Abo?
not due exclusively...Need a logic lesson jeff? jon
That doesn't even make sense. Not that it's surprising. Yes, trollboy, that means that although there may be a medical condition or physiological issue that contributes to the behavior, there is in any case something more going on. So what's your point exactly? Aside from wasting my time.
BTW, ruleout criteria for medical conditions are applicable to most mental disorders. Either you're thick as some of the undergrads I've known or you're just being deliberately obtuse, troll strategy #7.
D'oh!
C-Span showing the anti-war demonstration.
I guess that means the rest of the media can milk the Rita story for all the profits they can, while not displeasing the ruler, Bushboy, and incurring his awful wrath!
Eli--yes, but it's all about the red tank top.
But we do believe in lawyers.
Lawyers for what Sallyh? Maybe George Bush believes in lawyers also? What exactly is your lawyer going to do Sallyh?
Oh, okay, she's a Crusading Female Reporter.
*Much* more plausible.
Hey, my aunt & uncle just got power back in Houston a few minutes ago. Good news there at least.
woohoo! this is how big houston is: i live within the unicorporated area of houston (thus i cannot vote for mayor) and we lost power for a total of 25 minutes last night. someone who lives closer to downtown didn't lose power until this afternoon. strange.
that didn't really show the size of houston...
um, lets say that my office building downtown lost windows and at my house, we didn't even have a broken branch. (though my neighbors lost one).
http://citypaper.net/articles/20...09-22/
cb2.shtml
The war is "over" for them now?
WTF!
I'm sorry they lost their family member, but their attitude is pretty fucking selfish.
Now that I think about it, WalterNeff, World's Handsomest Man, said he'd be back in October.
Eli--your dream girl, Danica McKellar, is on
Is she the one from the Wonder Years?
Eli, she's a doll.
Hey, does anyone know what happened to Mellish? He wasn't in NOLA, was he?
Tena--I'm guessing he doesn't have computer access. I expect that he will be hospitalized for nearly a week.
That is some world-class acting going on there in the control room...
Why is this troll obssessed with Sallyh?
It's disturbing.
Because when the little Filipino girl was up there yelling at no one, there was maybe 30 or 40 people on the grounds around the stage. It was laughable.
Marcia,
Since you have the Keith Olbermann chia pet that means you don't need the real thing, right? (asking hopefully)
Because when the little Filipino girl was up there yelling at no one, there was maybe 30 or 40 people on the grounds around the stage. It was laughable.
Toby Petzold
Was Michelle Malkin there?
" It looks like, just as with the previous allegations, the troops knew full well that most of the people they were torturing were innocent of the charges that got them imprisioned in the first place."
but we Support the Troops!
Which MST3K host do you prefer, Joel or Mike?
Joel, hands down.
Mike's OK, I suppose, but he just doesn't do it for me.
Central Scrutinizer
My favorite character was Crow.
Sorry for all the tyops -- late nights & rushing on dialup are bad for me!
Hecate --
The only type of electric generator worth having is an Onan (yes, that is the name & can you guess why they chose it? -- it generates its own power! -- no kidding)
Fr Wm loaned me his copy of "The Rebirth of Witchcraft" by Doreen Valiente -- comments?
Central--trolls normally don't disturb me a whole lot. But taking a blow at my family? I'm not about to excuse that.
I believe in Marigolds...
"Since you have the Keith Olbermann chia pet that means you don't need the real thing, right? (asking hopefully)" --
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
You would think so, but I'm very selfish.
Why is this troll obssessed with Sallyh?
It's disturbing.
I think the bedwetting thing really hit a nerve.
I've never been to the Ellipse. Do a lot of different groups hang out there at once? Is it like a big flea market?
Love how these trolls are trying to downplay the demonstration.
Maybe they'd like to explain why only 100-150 were on the OTHER side.
My favorite character was Crow.
Oh, yeah. Crow's uberkewl.
Oh no! The nanobots are escaping!
And they ate my baby!!!
"Can't decide on a persona, trollboy? May I direct you further to criterion D: The behavior is not due exclusively to the direct physiological effect of a substance (e.g., a diuretic) or a general medical condition (e.g., diabetes, spina bifida, a seizure disorder)."
I'm not a troll boy or a troll old man but I don't believe everything I read either--not even in the DSM. You should read what it said in the DSM I. Just because no medical condition has been identified doesn't mean that something isn't medical or physiological. Most medical conditions have not as yet been identified. Medical claims do seem to change. Medicine often blames things exclusively on the psychological. Not too many years ago schizophrenia was blamed on the mothers.
"Why do you think we call you dopes?"
Your incipient insanity??
Hecate --
The only type of electric generator worth having is an Onan (yes, that is the name & can you guess why they chose it? -- it generates its own power! -- no kidding)
hehehehe! prolly made in good ole Indianapolis where Onan Industries always made me giggle on the way to Circle Center Mall!
Marcia--you need to comfort Keith, you know. He has to be back at work on Monday.
Danica has a website at which she helps kids with their homework. I read some interview with her a few months ago - quite the good person as well as being pretty sharp.
And when I was 10 I'd have been riding my bike past Winnie Cooper's house every day.
Remember the other fuckwad who had the Tena obsession?
Just tuned into SciFi--you know, it's hard to make looking at a computer monitor action-packed.
woohoo! this is how big houston is: i live within the unicorporated area of houston (thus i cannot vote for mayor) and we lost power for a total of 25 minutes last night. someone who lives closer to downtown didn't lose power until this afternoon. strange.
Yeah, my fam lives out towards Tomball, they basically lost some leaves and power. Weird how disparate the effects are in a huge city.
Any programing wonks here with text and IE experience? Seems that we need to create some bots to answer the trolls.
or am I one that someone has created already?
Maybe George Bush believes in lawyers also?
And why not? They've gotten him out a whole buncha trouble.
georgie believes in his lawyer more than he believes in God, because he doesn't...
Hope he has a good one.
This is why growing our own media is so critical to America's survival.
.......
i agree. even my benefit-of-the-doubt mother was stunned at the orwellian language- and reality-control that happened in houston these past few days.
seaxneat (fka PoppieProng)
i also agree, but i don't see that happening. blogs is all we got to inspire the revolution. increasingly i'm thinking that's what it will take. jebus, there is only so much you can take of hurricane coverage (fuck you wolf, you screeching pansy), glad your ok incog. and it was just a rain event, something i figured out last nite. i don't mind being made aware of significant nat. disasters, but it's hard to believe i have to snort around all day on the net to figure out how deeply this government is fuck'n me in the ass. and by me i mean you , goes for you too, trolls.
"I think the bedwetting thing really hit a nerve." -- Eli
Please come to the courtesy booth to pick up your prize.
Danica has a website at which she helps kids with their homework. I read some interview with her a few months ago - quite the good person as well as being pretty sharp.
I actually have a post on my blog about how she's actually some kind of brilliant math genius. I'd blogwhore more specifically, but I'm too enthralled to look it up.
Yes, I think Malkin was there, but the little girl I'm referring to was one of the loud speakers.
Y'all should check out Malkin's photo diary from today's rally. I'm pretty sure it was in DC, but don't quote me on that.
Prior,
Are you pulling my leg about the generator?
I haven't read The Rebirth of Witchcraft by Doreen Valiente, but she's a grand old lady of the early (sixties and seventies) Wiccan revival. Hung around with Gerald Gardner, etc.
Right now I'm reading Starhawk's latest book The Earth Path, which I'll loan to you and Fr. William when I'm done.
IE=AI
"you need to comfort Keith, you know. He has to be back at work on Monday." -- Sallyh
I can type and comfort at the same time. I'm very talented.
I think the bedwetting thing really hit a nerve.
I recall he had a thing about diapers.
Just tuned into SciFi--you know, it's hard to make looking at a computer monitor action-packed.
Dude! The amorphous nano cloud is eating seagulls and *everything*!
Not to mention a whole oil rig.
Don't worry, Winnie jumped off just in time, smart resourceful intrepid reporter that she is.
Because when the little Filipino girl was up there yelling at no one, there was maybe 30 or 40 people on the grounds around the stage. It was laughable.
Tobes. It's time to admit you are wrong.
There were multitudes at the demonstration. You know it. Drop the pretense.
IE=AI
Except after C.
On Wedneday, Bush issued a waiver exempting the Saudis from financial penalties associated with the child sex trade, prostitution, etc.
it's what jesus would want of course
BTW, I posted on this in the thread below, but the Star Tribune has an article up on the marches and rallies.
Fr Wm loaned me his copy of "The Rebirth of Witchcraft" by Doreen Valiente -- comments?
Prior Aelred |
That's a great book. Read it about 6 years ago
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Y'all should check out Malkin's photo diary from today's rally. I'm pretty sure it was in DC, but don't quote me on that.
The Rabid Pekingese's ranting are SO tiresome.
I can type and comfort at the same time. I'm very talented.
I may require proof.
That girl from The Wonder Years? She had a great photo layout in one of them soft-core men's magazines a while back.
She's quite lovely.
"Right now I'm reading Starhawk's latest book The Earth Path, which I'll loan to you and Fr. William when I'm done." -- Hecate
Woohoo. Starhawke and Z. Budapest are my favorites. The Holy Book of Women's Mysteriessaved my sanity on a camping trip to hell.
Torture is terribly evil -- you will alomst certinaly get information -- but it is typically whatever the victim thinks you want to hear so you will stop
We have resorted to it in every war with "cruel necessity" being the rationalization
We have never had to stop it because of a shortage of peopel willing to do it
Violence degrades everyone it touches -- we all become its victims
It was laughable.
No, the way the trolls are trying to downplay the demonstration is pretty laughable.
Pathetic, really.
Like Bush - "we don't want it to be that way, so we say it wasn't that way."
So the SciFi "original" feature looks like merely a geeky twist on the good old killer bees tale.
I apologize to the room for sneaking scraps of information to trollboy under the table. Based on his fairly uninformed and hostile reaction to research-validated facts and long-established diagnostic criteria, I think I will just congratulate him on his upcoming nuptials with Ms. Holmes and leave it at that.
Now then, on more important issues, Joel had it all over Mike.
Eli--Danica would be an asset to our profession.
Woohoo. Starhawke and Z. Budapest are my favorites. The Holy Book of Women's Mysteriessaved my sanity on a camping trip to hell.
On a camping trip to Hell, they run out of hot dogs just before it's your turn to eat. And they only serve German potato salad.
Ah, here it is.
Thank Ba'al for commercials.
"I may require proof.' -- Eli
I'm sorry, but you already picked up your prize....
So the SciFi "original" feature looks like merely a geeky twist on the good old killer bees tale.
No! You fool!
They're NANO bees! It's *entirely* different!!!
Now then, on more important issues, Joel had it all over Mike.
I really lost interest in Mike when I found out he's a wingnut.
She had a great photo layout in one of them soft-core men's magazines a while back.
Time Magazine or Sports Illustrated?
"And they only serve German potato salad." -- Jay C.
Made with pineapple?
Marcia, I think you should share more!
And from last night's thread concerning your school books, your fees should cover any ILL you might want. Also check out the sites www.bestbookbuys.com and bookfinders.us for comparison shopping if you have to buy.
Hey, I think this movie may have set a new record for killing-off-the-black-guy time. Like, 10-12 minutes?
Time Magazine or Sports Illustrated?
Weekly Reader.
I believe in Marigolds... seaxneat (fka PoppieProng)
Where ya from, you sexy thang (sexy thang you)?
Charles McKay's 1841 work, Extraordinary Popular Delusions And The Madness Of Crowds is just as relevant today as then.
" Ah, here it is.
Thank Ba'al for commercials." -- Eli
Cute, smart, AND she has a jaw.
Does no one sympathize with Charlie Gipson? He had to match his socks in the dark this morning.
Eli--14 minutes.
I really lost interest in Mike when I found out he's a wingnut.
Central Scrutinizer
Oh shit - really?
Eli--does the guy who asked if anyone was hungry remind you of Chertoff with a ponytail?
the iraqis fighting and dying against bushco are the real heroes.
"Anybody hungry? Anybody?"
WTF was *that* about?
And why is Chertoff on Sci-Fi channel?
i also agree, but i don't see that happening. blogs is all we got to inspire the revolution. increasingly i'm thinking that's what it will take. jebus, there is only so much you can take of hurricane coverage (fuck you wolf, you screeching pansy), glad your ok incog. and it was just a rain event, something i figured out last nite. i don't mind being made aware of significant nat. disasters, but it's hard to believe i have to snort around all day on the net to figure out how deeply this government is fuck'n me in the ass. and by me i mean you , goes for you too, trolls.
i agree with everything you just said. news channels are damn hard to buy.
and you know, i went through the hurricane, but until i could get back on the internet, i knew very little about what was going on in the world because all the local channels were wall-to-wall rita. but i suppose that is my fault for not wanting to pay to get cable right now. so i should go and investigate the world by myself.
Weekly Reader.
Darn those public schools.
dave--that's why one has socks in only one color.
Starhawke and Z. Budapest are my favorites. The Holy Book of Women's Mysteries saved my sanity on a camping trip to hell.
Marcia Brady,SaneByComparison
The Spiral Dance
Thank you, Hecate and everyone else who marched today.
I just read Billmon's "Heart of Darkness" post, and all I can saw is "Wow!". Great piece of writing.
Eli--14 minutes.
14 minutes for confirmation - but he actually died when the rig went down.
Hey, I think this movie may have set a new record for killing-off-the-black-guy time. Like, 10-12 minutes?
I'll fucking say.
I suppose we're sci-fi blogging this evening.
i can't believe they killed that guy off so quickly.
Eli--I asked you why Chertoff was on the Scifi channel.
the iraqis fighting and dying against bushco are the real heroes.
*yawn*
the iraqis fighting and dying against bushco are the real heroes.
gary in fl
Would you like someone invading YOUR country?
Cute, smart, AND she has a jaw.
I think that was a hidden dig at The Divine Ms. JLH!
Whew!
It's Great to see our Texas Atriots back with us!
Glad you all are OK...
The Rita Rain is just starting here in Memphis. Tornado watches and warnings popping up all over the area.
Tony B.
Where ya from, you sexy thang (sexy thang you)?
YES!!!!!!!! Someone got it!!!!!!!!! that makes me so freaking happy!!! i sing that to t-cho from time to time!
man, my day is made!!!!!!
*dances*
Eli--that was about 10 minutes in. Okay, okay, you win!
Oh shit - really?
Yes.
"Also check out the sites www.bestbookbuys.com and bookfinders.us for comparison shopping if you have to buy." --
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
I actually bought a book today from the evil Barnes & Noble because I have to read it by Monday. I think I'll do a fact finding trip to the NY Public Library on Tuesday. They aren't the Library of Congress, but so few things are these days.
Tena--I'm guessing he doesn't have computer access. I expect that he will be hospitalized for nearly a week.
Sallyh
Yah, i knew when I hit publish that I was being foolish. I knew there was no way he could be in any position to be online or much of anything else yet - though they do make you get up pretty quickly now.
Thank you, Hecate and everyone else who marched today.
Thank you from me too.
I marched today too. All over Austin looking for photographs in the FUCKING INSANE HEAT FROM HELL.
Holy god, when will it end?
Eli--I asked you why Chertoff was on the Scifi channel.
Likewise - but I had to type some other shit too.
Oh shit - really?
Yes.
Central Scrutinizer
Damn.
Tena--I'm sure they've gotten him up, but computers interfere with cardiac monitoring equipment.
I don't think David Keith is a very nice man in this one.
The Rita Rain is just starting here in Memphis. Tornado watches and warnings popping up all over the area.
I am fucking pissed.
We didn't get a SINGLE drop of rain. And it's going to be 101 again tomorrow.
It's just not natural.
I'm so over-worked I don't know if anyone has said this already or not - I hope they have - but think Zimbabwe and ECONOMIC cleansing... Is that what we're going to see now in NOLA+ ???
Hecate --
To quote the Soviet agricultural expert on WKRP in Cincinnati, "Communists don't kidding!"
Onan
Terry C -- thanx for the word on Valiente -- just stared it -- clearly written -- interesting & informative so far
Violence degrades everyone it touches -- we all become its victims
Prior Aelred | Email | Homepage | 09.24.05 - 9:18 pm
"we are the prisoners of the prisoners we have taken..."
padre? you ever get into johnny clegg, a white s.a. singer and guitarplayer who earned the respect and admiration of the Zulu gumbooters, wrote and recorded some fabulous tracks with black african bands even during aparteid...you'd dig it, imho...revolutionary love-songs, some of 'em, but poignant, and heart-felt, compassionate kick-ass dance music, too...
Eli--ya think?
BTW, I want to see Danica's math proof.
You can have Danica's...other parts.
I don't think David Keith is a very nice man in this one.
He appears to have woken up on the wrong side of the cold front.
"The Spiral Dance" --
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat
Exactly. I love The Grandmother of Time by Z, although I'm a terribly lazy neo-pagan, so I don't celebrate much.
Ohjeez.
That's Flounder. I forgot he was in this...
Where's Colorful Rabbi Tom Bosley when you need him?
"Froot Loops and G-strings"???
though they do make you get up pretty quickly now.
Yes, the faster, the better.
Sending good thoughts...
"I don't care what you care to swallow; you've got to start thinking outside the box."
I know, I know...picking on the dialogue in a SciFi original feature is a fish/barrel/gun affair.
So is everybody hating the antiwar rally or what? Boo hoo hoo. Nobody else but ANSWER organizes these fucking things. The left couldn't organize a bunch of lemmings into jumping off a cliff...
Holy god, when will it end?
on behalf of the rita-evacuees, i apologize that it didn't follow some of them to austin like it di those who fled to beaumont; it's actually been quite pretty down here today.
but when will it end? it's those damn high pressure areas, the eastern most one which moved off to the east pulling rita to louisiana that is doing it to us. (yup, chris has been watching too much weather news)
hey alaska!! will you brew up a cold front already???
"I think that was a hidden dig at The Divine Ms. JLH!" -- Eli
Jen isn't smart?
Linnea--I think that's already happening.
BTW, I want to see Danica's math proof.
You can have Danica's...other parts.
That seems fair. But would you happen to have an Olivia d'Abo lying around anywhere?
Hey, shouldn't nano-hail be a lot smaller?
"Froot Loops and G-strings"???
Hey, breakfast and babes in one fell swoop!
What could be better?
To quote the Soviet agricultural expert on WKRP in Cincinnati, "Communists don't kidding!"
Ah yes, Ivan Papasonoviski.
He had great taste in women.
Billy:
There were multitudes at the demonstration.
"Multitudes" is a weasel word. And you know it.
They're replaying it on C-SPAN right now.
"Can't afford the luxury of..." is a common phrase, not all that unusual. I'd say the guy's point was war is unnecessary, which we all agree with, and that it's a wasteful expensse, which we also agree with, in term of lives and money.
Maybe it's unsophisticated and trite phrasing, and makes a limited point - it doesn't cover the just plain moral wrongness of continual war - but just from a sound bite, we can't assume he doesn't doesn't feel/think more.
"I don't care what you care to swallow; you've got to start thinking outside the box."
I know, I know...picking on the dialogue in a SciFi original feature is a fish/barrel/gun affair.
"What you need is a *real* woman who can blow 45 miles per hour, if you catch my wind drift..."
Okay, I may be directing this at the wrong guy...
hey alaska!! will you brew up a cold front already???
I wish someone would.
Everything is all dried up here. It sucks.
Hey, breakfast and babes in one fell swoop!
What could be better?
the babe making you breakfast?
*ducks*
What's with these fucking GM commercials with kids putting on the guilt trip?
Fuck that.
So is everybody hating the antiwar rally or what? Boo hoo hoo. Nobody else but ANSWER organizes these fucking things. The left couldn't organize a bunch of lemmings into jumping off a cliff...
Seebach
A quarter of a million people are a helluva lot of lemmings!
I wish someone would.
Everything is all dried up here. It sucks.
texas's crazy heat makes me reconsider whether i want my next job to be in austin or somewhere else where i might have to take the bar. it's that bad.
"Can't afford the luxury of..." is a common phrase, not all that unusual. I'd say the guy's point was war is unnecessary, which we all agree with, and that it's a wasteful expensse, which we also agree with, in term of lives and money.
Maybe it's unsophisticated and trite phrasing, and makes a limited point - it doesn't cover the just plain moral wrongness of continual war - but just from a sound bite, we can't assume he doesn't doesn't feel/think more.
I understand all that, and I have no problem with his choice of words. I just thought it came out as a rather bizarre juxtaposition - the English language has a way of doing that...
Hey, breakfast and babes in one fell swoop!
What could be better?
Protocol forces me to mention once again the "Legs 'n Eggs" buffet at the Foxy Lady in Providence. Stay classy, Rhode Island...
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4Legs--Alaska may well have brewed up a cold front and shipped it to SoCal.
September is never this cold, wet and cloudy.
"Everything is all dried up here. It sucks.' -- fourlegsgood
Not to gloat or anything, but it was a perfect day here, the first fallish one.
I may be able to take my AC out of the window next week.
texas's crazy heat makes me reconsider whether i want my next job to be in austin or somewhere else where i might have to take the bar. it's that bad.
Yep, I'm looking out of state. I can't take it anymore.
So is everybody hating the antiwar rally or what?
You're spending way too much time here, dearest.
Go forth and educate, like some of us do on a daily basis.
Protocol forces me to mention once again the "Legs 'n Eggs" buffet at the Foxy Lady in Providence. Stay classy, Rhode Island...
We haven't nailed down the site for EschaCon II yet, right?
Hey, Tobes?
howzit feel to look like an asshole trying to shit a face?
just askin'
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Thanks for the link to that McKay book, Uncle Smokes. I'd always heard about it.
" Police Chief Charles H. Ramsey, noting that organizers had hoped to draw 100,000 people, said, 'I think they probably hit that.' "
Huge rally against Iraq war
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/24...r.ap/
index.html
At the risk of sounding dumb, what is this ANSWER thing?
Hi, Toby, did you get some meds?
OK -- it's late for monks & I am tired & I'm not wathcing the sci-fi channel & am going to turn in
Best to all! (& conversion to the trolls!)
4Legs--Alaska may well have brewed up a cold front and shipped it to SoCal.
Would you guys quit fucking hogging the cold weather?
Winnie is on the move!
man, my day is made!!!!!! *dances* seaxneat (fka PoppieProng)
Just doin' muh job. And here's a li'l something to make Eli dance. Oh heck, here's a li'l more.
Integrate that, calculus-boy!
His socks. In the dark. He had to match them. He said so this morning, and he said so just now. He had to match his socks in the dark. I'm not making this up. Charlie Gipson. Poor bastard. Won't anyone help?
"As you can tell by these photos, she's really small-time."
Wha?
Marcia, my understanding is the B&N actually leans blue, but I could be misinformed. And if any public library would be of help to you, it would be the one you've got(our libary is very good, but most public libraries don't do the college stuff. But for humanities you might be in luck).
Eli, is that David Keith or Keith David?
4Legs--I'd be more than happy to exchange 100 F weather with you. I hate this crap.
Not to gloat or anything, but it was a perfect day here, the first fallish one.
Shut up, shut up, shut up!!
The hurricane totally fizzled on us. Instead of my house being destroyed, my family lost power for about 8 hours.
So I can't understand why my precious lake of serotonin and norepinephrine has dried up...
Paul Rutherford, 60, of Vandalia, Michigan, said he is a Republican who supported Bush in the last election and still does -- except for the war.
I don't understand how you can support someone who has looted the treasury and made us hated worldwide.
What does it take for some people to get it?
"September is never this cold, wet and cloudy." -- Sallyh
Sounds like "June Gloom." But in September, so much harder to rhyme.
"Why don't you leave your ex-wife alone?"
"Not 'till I wipe that alimony smile off her face!"
Pure gold!
Jeff, you're arguing with two different people. At least one other person in here sees through your nonsense. Now tell me the logical difference between thumbnail criteria the FBI might use to do an initial search and what would count as a scientific explanation of a medical condition.
Eli, is that David Keith or Keith David?
David Keith. Both are cool, and it's a damn shame they've never made a movie together.
4Legs--I'd be more than happy to exchange 100 F weather with you. I hate this crap.
I think if you lived here you might rethink that.
It's brutal.
Hey, I don't hate the antiwar rally. Just half the people at Kos do. Communists help organize every rally ever. It's just a fact.
I wonder if David Keith's pet weasel has caught some nano-flu or something...
I believe Keith David is the fellow narrating "City Confidential."
He replaced the late, great Paul Winfield.
My, that Danica is a naughty, jawful minx!
I still have a headache from the heat today.
My, that Danica is a naughty, jawful minx!
I suddenly have a lot more respect for her, um, math skills.
4Legs--we don't get the humidity you do.
My tabby boy is watching Scifi with me...what's yours up to?
Jeff, you're argui.. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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man, my day is made!!!!!! *dances* seaxneat (fka PoppieProng)
Just doin' muh job. And here's a li'l something to make Eli dance. Oh heck, here's a li'l more.
Integrate that, calculus-boy!
my oh my! she's all growed up!
I found the quote at the end of the CNN article funny(strange funny, not ha-ha funny).
Supporters of Bush's policy in Iraq assembled in smaller numbers to get their voice heard in the day's anti-war din. About 150 of them rallied at the U.S. Navy Memorial.
Gary Qualls, 48, of Temple, Texas, whose Marine reservist son, Louis, died last year in the insurgent stronghold of Fallujah, asked: "If you bring them home now, who's going to be responsible for all the atrocities that are fixing to happen over there? Cindy Sheehan?"
Yes, let's stay in Iraq so we can be responsible for the atrocities.
David Keith, was he in Officer and A Gentleman?
They're trying to frame Winnie!
You bastards!!!
"I suddenly have a lot more respect for her, um, math skills." -- Eli
Apparently, she was unaware that a photographer was coming over and neglected to put on her clothes.
I hate it when that happens.
my oh my! she's all growed up!
Makes Kevin finally hitting a round-tripper in the series finale of "The Wonder Years" all the more bittersweet...
"Multitudes" is a weasel word. And you know it.
Toby Petzold
I thought you had a better sense of humor than that, my friend.
The facts is the facts. They was upwards of 100K folks there today.
Documented.
Strange how the Conspiracy theorists are running the show at Kos, despite that while "No Conspiracies" thing from Kos a month or so ago
When were Frist, McCain and Warner informed?
http://tinyurl.com/bzpn9
Human Rights Watch report here-
http://hrw.org/reports/2005/us0905/
Found at Digby,,, the Time report, not the answer to the question-
That was one hell of a docile girl that guy just grabbed by accident. Maybe it happens to her a lot?
I will hunt you down and make you wish you'd never been born
Sallyh,
We'll be right there with you. Tar and feathers is too good for nasty creeps like this one.
Here's my latest theory: We should have let Clinton be impeached and convicted.
Consider this: Gore would have been president, and could have perhaps successfully escaped the tarnish. He might not have had to nominate the soulless scum Lieberman as his VP. And as the incumbent, he might have scraped enough votes to have made the Supreme Court coup impossible. Plus, the Republicans would have looked scummy.
Think about it.
OMFG, was that unconvincing getup or not???
Gary Qualls, 48, of Temple, Texas, whose Marine reservist son, Louis, died last year in the insurgent stronghold of Fallujah, asked: "If you bring them home now, who's going to be responsible for all the atrocities that are fixing to happen over there? Cindy Sheehan?"
Yes, let's stay in Iraq so we can be responsible for the atrocities.
Karin
Gary Qualls is such an asshole!
Apparently, she was unaware that a photographer was coming over and neglected to put on her clothes.
I hate it when that happens.
This happen a lot?
URL?
We should have let Clinton be impeached and convicted.
Oh, give me a break!!!!!!!!!!
Here's my latest theory: We should have let Clinton be impeached and convicted.
Umm, no.
Yep, I'm looking out of state. I can't take it anymore.
i hear you. the 3 years i spent in Indiana spoiled me. four distinct seasons! good lord, what will they think of next?
it struck me as surprising that hurricane rita came pretty much on the first day of fall. as i was outside moving the potted plants inside so they wouldn't smash windows. as sweat dripped off my body.
i lost 9 pounds in 2 days, entirely due to sweat.
OMFG, was that unconvincing getup or not???
Yes... unconvincing...
Winnie, the character, reminded me of my first neighborhood love, even if mine was in the '50s and she was a '70s girl...their demeanors and the tenor of her relation with kivin, reminded me of her...
her name was 'Shannie', and she was kind of a tomboy, and her mother either fell or was pushed down the stairs of their house one day, and landed on the concrete floor by washingmachine, and shattered her skull and died while we were all at school...and we found her mom, Shannie and a couple other kids who all sort of ran together...lakewood ohio, 1956...
long times ago
"What you need is a *real* woman who can blow 45 miles per hour, if you catch my wind drift..."
Okay, I may be directing this at the wrong guy...
That's okay...philosophical inquiry requires that I contemplate the image thoroughly.
As for "fruit loops and g-strings..."
I'm a big queer, and I'm looking for a big cereal!
Here's my latest theory: We should have let Clinton be impeached and convicted.
Seebach, that makes no sense whatsoever.
Catch some zzz's.
David Keith, was he in Officer and A Gentleman?
He was.
He killed himself when his ho dumped him.
Woody: Eep.
Strange how the Conspiracy theorists are running the show at KosZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
Gary Ruppert | Homepage | 09.24.05 - 9:41 pm | #
There's a few more Danica here. Just thought I'd make it easy with a couple direct links.
In case that's not enough, here's some of her interview:
Fine, if I must: What can a guy do to win you over?
I love surprises. So, champagne and strawberries, all that pampering, romantic stuff. Guys ought to know how to pamper their women.
What about the delicate maneuver of a man buying you lingerie?
I’m not sure I’ve ever had a guy buy me lingerie when we weren’t at the store together trying stuff on.
You mean you don’t make the guy wait outside on the pink ottoman?
Well, I haven’t had sex in the changing room, but I’ve had the guy come with me while I tried stuff on.
Don’t men see lingerie as just pretty Christmas wrapping?
With the guy I’m with now, the goal is: “How fast can we get that off?”
Around the house, are you carefree or careful?
If it’s just me and my boyfriend, then anything goes. I’m not shy about walking around with nothing on. There’s nothing unclassy about being naked, if it’s appropriate.
Do you consider yourself a serial monogamist, or do you dig a tryst?
I am definitely a serial monogamist. I can count on one hand the number of guys I’ve been with. For whatever reason, I’m just more private. It takes longer to get on the inside.
Do you get a complex living in L.A., being surrounded by all the store-bought boobs?
If I want bigger breasts, that’s what the Wonderbra is for. But my boyfriend, luckily, is an ass man.
And you didn’t even know that going in.
Look, if a guy really wants big, big breasts, I’m not the one. I’m more of the slim, small-framed person.
And if he wants love and devotion?
If he wants love and devotion, look no further.
those ANSWER people are just so icky, let's get back to catblogging.
"The left couldn't organize a bunch of lemmings into jumping off a cliff..."
Interestingly, the only time lemming mass suicide happened was organized: a Disney documentary filmmaker drove some locally collected pets who weren't even truly lemmings to their deaths to shoot an urban legend.
"Think about it." -- Seebach
Which is why I pray daily for Bush's and Cheney's physical well-being. Imagine if Cheney "retired" and Bush appointed Frist or DeLay or even Condi. They would be in a better position for '08.
Soprano--in our experience, lawsuits are so much more irritating
He killed himself when his ho dumped him.
Damn those hoes! Will their perfidy never end!!!
*shakes fist impo- ineffectively*
Interestingly, the only time lemming mass suicide happened was organized: a Disney documentary filmmaker drove some locally collected pets who weren't even truly lemmings to their deaths to shoot an urban legend.
Yeah, actually I heard that. Although I thought they were really lemmings.
*shakes fist impo- ineffectively*
Eli
You were going to say "impolitely," of course. But that would have been uncouth.
I think if you lived here you might rethink that.
It's brutal.
fourlegsgood
That it is.
And supposed to be 102 degrees tomorrow...
David Keith, was he in Officer and A Gentleman?
They are ruining gardens everywhere.
Apparently, she was unaware that a photographer was coming over and neglected to put on her clothes.
I hate it when that happens.
you know, i want to know where I am when all this accidental nudity happens? i mean, i'm an astute guy, but i have never seen so much as a bare breast in public. ever. what the fuck?
That it is.
And supposed to be 102 degrees tomorrow...
fall my left asscheek. we're not so hot only because we had a hurrican blow through. what is god trying to say about texas?
Damn those hoes! Will their perfidy never end!!!
Let me try again.
Those damned hoes are ruining gardens everywhere.
i mean, i'm an astute guy, but i have never seen so much as a bare breast in public. ever. what the fuck?
On the way back in shore from a fishing trip the other day, we passed by some isolated sandbars, only reachable by boat.
Were there young vacationers frolicking nude there?
Yes there were, Kent.
Yanno, I don't really give a rat's ass who organized the marches and rallies today. I also don't care that some of the speakers at the various venues talked about the Palestinian question, or Leonard Pelletier, or Mumma.
What I do care about is that upwards of a quarter of a million Americans all over the country got off their asses and actually showed their disgust for the war in Iraq.
As far as I'm concerned, today was an important day, the first in what I hope will be many.
Okay, Clinton could have resigned. That way, the right couldn't have legitimated a coup.
That's an interesting alternate history, Seebach.
Thanks for the inquiry, Marcia. I am feeling better than before, but I've been living with a head all day that feels like it's in a presurized airplane cabin. Everything is deafeningly quiet and ringy. Jesus! I'm so sick of being sick.
those ANSWER people are just so icky, let's get back to catblogging.
gary in fl | 09.24.05 - 9:45 pm | #
You don't like CATS, either????
Okay, Clinton could have resigned. That way, the right couldn't have legitimated a coup.
Why should he have?
That's exactly what they wanted him to do.
seaxneat--plenty of barebreasted action in Corsica. However, you have to take that with fat guys in really small Speedos.
i mean, i'm an astute guy, but i have never seen so much as a bare breast in public. ever. what the fuck?
On the way back in shore from a fishing trip the other day, we passed by some isolated sandbars, only reachable by boat.
Were there young vacationers frolicking nude there?
Yes there were, Kent.
ah, i don't spend enough time by the water. that explains it!
WGG - How was the fair?
Okay, I'm actively looking *forward* to these assclowns getting eaten...
Okay, Clinton could have resigned. That way, the right couldn't have legitimated a coup.
Seebach
Errr.....??????
Resigned for what?
A blow job?
The discriminating taste of N'awlins Looters.
Folks, I hate to keep jumping in here with my smaller and smaller druynken voice, but Charlie gipso0n hadda cange his socks in the dark. Boo-hoo, doncha think?
Okay, nano creatures are going to attack Seattle.
"You're a terrorist???"
The discriminating taste of N'awlins Looters.
Eli--you aren't the only one.
However, you have to take that with fat guys in really small Speedos.
Sallyh
(Gag, barf, puke!)
hello, children. How was the march in DC?
Okay, I'm actively looking *forward* to these assclowns getting eaten...
Me too.
Okay, so, I think Stephen Furst is going for... Cajun Woody Allen.
You all still prattling on about how helpless we all are? Or have you taken a break and focused on simple whining about Bush?
four legs, that's who I thought it was. I hated that movie, even though I've only seen about 10 minutes total. And the damn song Up Where We Belong, or whatever crap it was.
Move north!It's humid here during summer in SW Ohio, but we do have 4 seasons, sometimes all in one day. And it's been cooler here than in Chicago or Wisconsin, which is damn weird. And even though it's 'cooler' it is still several degrees above normal: We're supposed to be at 74, and we're in the 80's.
Leave the dog dish empty.
Looks like the Badgers beat Michigan tonight.
Will state street riot?
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What I do care about is that upwards of a quarter of a million Americans all over the country got off their asses and actually showed their disgust for the war in Iraq.
As far as I'm concerned, today was an important day, the first in what I hope will be many.
Diane
Here's my latest theory: We should have let Clinton be impeached and convicted.
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how could we have done that? he wasn't guilty of anything.
This scene says: Take a cigarette break.
Resigned for what? A blow job?
I don't know any guys who would ever say "I guess I'll have to resign myself to the blowjob."
"Everything is deafeningly quiet and ringy. Jesus! I'm so sick of being sick." -- Toby Petzold
I have the headcold now, so everytime I go under the East River, it's agony. But most of the rest of the time, I'm just tired and annoyed.
The girls are pretty much all better.
"You're a terrorist???"
No, an eco-terrorist!!
"We gotta go!"
"Where?"
"Anywhere that's not here!"
seaxneat--plenty of barebreasted action in Corsica. However, you have to take that with fat guys in really small Speedos.
fat guys in speedos? well, i can handle that. as long as they aren't aroused. because then the proportions are all off!
hehehe. when i was 19 or 20, i went to mardi gras in galveston. i averted my eyes to an exchanging of beads. i was being a gentleman. that was my one shot at nudity where it didn't belong!
i guess i could always go to hippie hollow, but they're supposed to be naked there.
am i letting my psychoses get too rampant?
Technically he would have resigned for a blow job.
Realistically he would have resigned to save the Democratic party from this.
but i have never seen so much as a bare breast in public. ever. what the fuck?
Seriously?
Maybe I've been lucky, but I've seen quite a few women in various states of undress, both intentional and unplanned. The naked girl on the bus trip to see The Stones was the most entertaining.
but i suppose that is my fault for not wanting to pay to get cable right now. so i should go and investigate the world by myself.
seaxneat
what are you kidding? (yes, i know)
you fuckers go too fast. i am specifically pissed at not being able to find the origen of this remark.he had a great photo layout in one of them soft-core men's magazines a while back.
take it back, thanx jeff CO. a picture is worth a thousand words.
hehehe. when i was 19 or 20, i went to mardi gras in galveston. i averted my eyes to an exchanging of beads. i was being a gentleman. that was my one shot at nudity where it didn't belong!
You, sir, are an idiot.
seaxneat--plenty of barebreasted action in Corsica. However, you have to take that with fat guys in really small Speedos.
Sallyh
We went to St. Lucia on our honeymoon. It was before St. Lucia had any big resorts besides one that was on the other end of the island. Where we were, there were smallish resorts mostly owned by Canadians and Europeans. We were at Anse Chastenet. It has its own little beach and most of the guests were Europeans. Teeny tiny Speedos on large men was a prominent feature.
Looks like the Badgers beat Michigan tonight.
Will state street riot?
woo hoo! go wisconsin! hey, is USC still losing? cuz if they do, hook em horns!! (not that we're really the #1 team!)
Looks like the Badgers beat Michigan tonight.
My neighbors are killing thmselves as we speak.
no, USC beating tye crap out of Oregon.
"ah, i don't spend enough time by the water. that explains it!" --
seaxneat (fka PoppieProng)
For some reason I have a vision of you walking blithely down the street, while just behind you (unbeknownst to you), it's breasts a-poppin.
I amuse myself more than I amuse anyone else.
Technically he would have resigned for a blow job.
Realistically he would have resigned to save the Democratic party from this.
I'm sorry, but that's just dumb. They would have just gone after Gore afterwards.
Technically he would have resigned for a blow job.
Realistically he would have resigned to save the Democratic party from this.
Seebach
I don't agree.
Wow. The bad guy just *kicked* at Winnie's escaping car. That was effective.
Teeny tiny Speedos on large men was a prominent feature.
see, i don't understand speedos. you have to be like, mark spitz (or whatever his name is) to do a speedo. men, just wear shorts. it's better that way. (i would never wear a speedo because i would never want to offend anyone!)
You, sir, are an idiot.
I agree.
Girls that bare their breasts in public at mardi-gras celebrations want you to look.
It's rude not to.
Gore also could have ended up president under other scenarios. For instance if he had used Clinton, who was well loved, more in his campaign.
Or if he had not picked that scumbag Loserman as veep.
Maybe I've been lucky, but I've seen quite a few women in various states of undress, both intentional and unplanned.
A few weekends ago, I was out drinking downtown with some old friends. When the bar closed, we walked back to the sidestreet where I had parked. On the way out, we went by a completely naked college-aged girl standing in somebody's front yard, talking on her cell phone and holding her shoes in the other hand.
Her boyfriend was standing in the doorway, probably worried about her phone minutes or something.
"Maybe I've been lucky, but I've seen quite a few women in various states of undress, both intentional and unplanned. The naked girl on the bus trip to see The Stones was the most entertaining." --
Central Scrutinizer
Ooh, become a cop. My ex was always getting flashed.
Realistically he would have resigned to save the Democratic party from this.
I'm sorry, but that's just dumb. They would have just gone after Gore afterwards.
And Gore would have been painted with the Clinton brush by the media.
I encountered a great deal of public nudity during my years in NYC. Also a fair amount in Austin.
For some reason I have a vision of you walking blithely down the street, while just behind you (unbeknownst to you), it's breasts a-poppin.
I amuse myself more than I amuse anyone else.
hahahahahahahaha! no, you amuse me! i have actually thought the same thing! blame it on the popularity of things like "pdpme" Voyeurweb and the like!
Gore also could have ended up president under other scenarios. For instance if he had used Clinton, who was well loved, more in his campaign.
Or if he had not picked that scumbag Loserman as veep.
Karin
Exactly!
Realistically he would have resigned to save the Democratic party from this.
It was a blowjob.
No one got raped.
No one got murdered.
No one suffered.
Sarah D--my apologies about USC.
That's Monsieur's alma mater, not mine
I wonder if a pizza would cure my headache?
I don't agree.
That's fair. I'm just wondering if Clinton has made himself useful lately.
It was a blowjob.
No one got raped.
No one got murdered.
No one suffered.
Which is exactly what made it criminal.
"Maybe I've been lucky, but I've seen quite a few women in various states of undress, both intentional and unplanned. The naked girl on the bus trip to see The Stones was the most entertaining." --
Central Scrutinizer
Ooh, become a cop. My ex was always getting flashed.
should i have become a pizza-delivery-guy instead of a lawyer? because, while there are all sorts of "inappropriately" dressed young women at the chase tower, there is no boobage.
Fat Guys in Speedos isn't that a Sinead song?
England's not the mythical land of Madame George and roses
It's the home of police who kill fat guys in Speedos...
I wonder if a pizza would cure my headache?
Couldn't hurt!
The Isthmus forum had a post from some guy who was on his way home last week. Gets outta the car and SWOOOSH- a group of 10-speed bikers shot past him. They were all naked.
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when i was 19 or 20, i went to mardi gras in galveston. i averted my eyes to an exchanging of beads. i was being a gentleman. that was my one shot at nudity where it didn't belong
When I was a lad of 10 at summer camp, we would ride inner-tubes down a river in New Mexico.
I was the last in the train of tubes, and I looked at the river back to see a genuine, old-fashioned hippy couple hanging out.
When I caught up with the rest of the kids, they had a good laugh at my expense--I had kept staring at the man and woman, but I hadn't even noticed that they were naked.
"(i would never wear a speedo because i would never want to offend anyone!)" --
seaxneat (fka PoppieProng)
May I remind everyone of a certain Ed Helms and the ball cam? Blue speedos for everyone!
4Legs--pizza always cures a headache.
Realistically he would have resigned to save the Democratic party from this.
Seebach | Email | 09.24.05 - 9:54 pm | #
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yeah. the best thing any political party can do for its well being is to allow itself to be badgered out of office by its opposition.
That's fair. I'm just wondering if Clinton has made himself useful lately.
Tqlk to me when the 2006 is heating up, doll.
Gotta blunt for that headache?
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No one got raped.
No one got murdered.
No one suffered.
Right. But four years, 8 months of rape, murder, and suffering down, three years, 4 months of rape, murder and suffering to go.
It was a blowjob.
No one got raped.
No one got murdered.
No one suffered.
pie
Well, America had to suffer - for these Repug scumbags and their vendetta against Clinton.
It's okay, Sallyh. Mr Deere loves his USC, and I'm n ot especially a football fan.
About the only thing I enjoy are Aggies' games, but that's just because I love the very dramatic Aggie War Song that the band plays when they take the field at half-time. Makes the hair rise on the back of my neck every time, and makes me resent the HELL out the major networks who choose to run ad after ad after ad instead of letting us hear the bands, which are so often quite wonderful.
I'm just wondering if Clinton has made himself useful lately.
Do you not read the news at all?
He just raised several billion dollars for projects all over the world.
Plus his foundation has raised hundreds of millions for AIDS in africa.
Meanwhile, Poppy spent his post-presidency serving on boards and hanging out with the world's most ugly woman.
eli: yes, this i understand now as i have aged! (oh the tortures of being raised by a spirtual-northeastern-feminist!!!)
sarah deere: damn! they were losing after one quarter!
hey, how's IU doing? they beat Kentucky last week!
WGG - How was the fair?
Tena | Email | Homepage | 09.24.05 - 9:50 pm
fair...
lots of people. lots of retail. lots of fried food (Olaf had mutton stew, NM Red had fried bread). Most of the competitions were long since past...they were showing alpacas, laamas, and such...there was a western pleasure competition for arabians...but the cattle, and the hogs, wnd the fowl were all already gone back to the farm or into the pot...
a remarkable potpouri of faces, and costumes, and sights, sounds and smells...watched some dancing at the Native center. the colors and the movement and the sounds of the singers and the drums made me wish, as i whispered to my comanions, that i was in about hour two or three of a good acid trip...it was the sort of composition that looked, from a ceertain angle, as if someone had animated colorful flowers and huge butterflys and put some of them in dignified-looking pillbox hats and set them all a'spinning to wonderfuly complex, atavistic rhythms...
and i was straight...
missed you...jane's a gas--as you might have guessed--and red's funny, lovely, and widely travelld and read...we had a fun time...got in a bit before 11 am, left about 3:30... i'd say a satisfactory--nay, superlative--time was had by all...
next year we'll do it a week earlier...jane got her stock of Lotaburgers, finally...
i was serious if you're passin thru next weekend, lemme know...we'll imbibe something...
wished you'd been here, too...
It was a blowjob.
No one got raped.
No one got murdered.
No one suffered.
pie
Gee, no kidding.
Another vapid comment for pie.
Seebach--I fail to see how we've suffered under Bush ties into your argument for Clinton's resignation.
Or maybe it's the margarita.
Which is exactly what made it criminal.
Poor, poor America.
"We're dealing with Pac-Man... on steroids."
"Multitudes" is a weasel word. And you know it.
Toby Petzold
Multitudes is a weasel word? Feeding of the multitudes, multitudes of stars, etc. Who died and made you Strunk and White?
I wonder if a pizza would cure my headache?
Maybe an iced coffee. So cool, so caffeinated.
Did I miss something? Are you people arguing that George Bush is a serial killer?
Would you please close your legs, pie, it stinks in here.
i feel bad for the ex-coach of the IU football team, Gerry DiNardo. His family opened a franchise of his favorite italian restaurant from New Orleans in Bloomington (which was quite tasty) and then got canned this year after only like 2 years. what the hell? and mike davis still has his job? what's up is down, and what's right is wrong!!!!
"We're dealing with Pac-Man... on steroids."
Isn't that Miss Pac-Man?
yeah. the best thing any political party can do for its well being is to allow itself to be badgered out of office by its opposition.
Olaf glad and big
Especially since Clinton's approval numbers were STILL in the high 60s..and most of the American public was pissed off with the Repug congress for that impeachment BS!
Talk to me when the 2006 is heating up, doll.
How nice for the left's Ronald Reagan to deign to come down from yachting with Bush Sr. and show up and fight the facists during an election season.
Her boyfriend was standing in the doorway, probably worried about her phone minutes or something.
Jay C. |
Well? What was he wearing?
that sounds like fun, WGG. I sometimes get to a certain upstate NY fair, where they have draft horse competitions, and Bessie bingo.
Well, so much for Flounder.
*Now* who will we rely on for craptacular dialogue?
Winnie is awfully flirty, given the circumstances...
Speaking of the inner tube story I just told:
Hey Woody Guthries Guitar, were you by any chance hanging out on a river bank in New Mexico, a few miles outside of Taos, in 1976?
Would you please close your legs, pie, it stinks in here.
paison | 09.24.05 - 10:04 pm | #
It didn't till YOU came in.
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Did I miss something? Are you people arguing that George Bush is a serial killer?
jon | 09.24.05 - 10:04 pm | #
Are you saying he isn't?
I'm proud to tears for all of you good people that are ignoring the trools.
Hey, if I post twice quickly under two different names do you think anyone will think I'm two people? Identical cousins maybe?
paison | 09.24.05 - 10:03 pm | #
*yawn*
You think you can do better with your stuff?
Good luck. Don't bitch at people who are on your side, asshole.
When I was a lad of 10 at summer camp, we would ride inner-tubes down a river in New Mexico.
I was the last in the train of tubes, and I looked at the river back to see a genuine, old-fashioned hippy couple hanging out.
When I caught up with the rest of the kids, they had a good laugh at my expense--I had kept staring at the man and woman, but I hadn't even noticed that they were naked.
riding innertubes is great fun. and i notice a lot of "river-boobs" on the internet... maybe that's the place to be! all about the water, right?
if i were european, would i like boobs so much?
"Really? Global security?"
Well, you've got me convinced!
How nice for the left's Ronald Reagan to deign to come down from yachting with Bush Sr. and show up and fight the facists during an election season.
Seebach
Oh, great.
The trolls aren't bad enough. Now we have to have Clinton-bashing!
"robogerm" - I like it!
"(oh the tortures of being raised by a spirtual-northeastern-feminist!!!)"
Yeah, us south-western feminists would have just said, "Son, did you see those boobs?"
Well? What was he wearing?
Why, jeans and a v-neck t-shirt. Obviously just came back from a night on the town.
He seemed perturbed when one of my companions asked his ladyfriend if she had the time.
No watch, you see.
My most recent encounter with public nudity was on my wedding night, on the balcony outside of our hotel room.
Seebach: Clinton resigning would have made things *worse*.
Well? What was he wearing?
a blue speedo, hopefully!
Identical cousins maybe?
Kissing cousins perhaps?
I'm proud to tears for all of you good people that are ignoring the trools.
There are trolls?
All I see are giant hailstones and robogerms.
And leopard print...
I'm proud to tears for all of you good people that are ignoring the trools.
Central Scrutinizer
Oops - forgot!
Sorry!
I can't be silent anymore, Central Scrutinizer, that is the illest avatar you've got there.
Is that you? Either way, bad-ass.
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My most recent encounter with public nudity was on my wedding night, on the balcony outside of our hotel room.
damn!! that's cool! i had sex... naw, mi esposa wouldn't like it if i told that story.
Night, Moonbats. America's poets stood up Laura Bush this weekend, but there was poetry in the streets:
It's bullshit.
Get off it.
This war is for profit.
It's bullshit.
Get off it.
Violence and occupation cannot lead to liberation.
Tha'ts bullshit.
Get off it.
This war is for profit.
My most recent encounter with public nudity was on my wedding night, on the balcony outside of our hotel room.
It doesn't count if it was you.
WGG, mescalin was always my fave. Watched a desert flower open once over vthe course of at least one hour, and it was a once-a-year event. Gorgeous.
I did love me some mescalin on many wunnerful occasions.
Speed + grass = poor man's acid.
A thousand years ago.
if i were european, would i like boobs so much?
Yes...but you'd riddled with existential ennui.
How nice for the left's Ronald Reagan to deign to come down from yachting with Bush Sr. and show up and fight the facists during an election season.
Oh please.
Come back and talk to me when you graduate from college.
Hey Woody Guthries Guitar, were you by any chance hanging out on a river bank in New Mexico, a few miles outside of Taos, in 1976?
Uncle Smokes | Email | Homepage | 09.24.05 - 10:06 pm
i coulda been, had a lady friend in Ranchos about that time...so, fer sher...
My most recent encounter with public nudity was on my wedding night, on the balcony outside of our hotel room.
Mine was at the Dyke March in June.
Oh, and I hear that I missed "Saturday Night Fever" on the WB tonight.
How's the reality-based community doing tonight?
Still, they're trollbots,
Identical trollbots and you'll find,
They laugh alike, they walk alike,
At times they even talk alike --
You can lose your mind,
When trollbooooots are two of a kiiiiiiind
Ok, back to the nanoagents. Wait, wasn't Mork a nanu agent? Hmmm.
Hecate, you are my heroine.
Seriously.
Mike Nelson's a wingnut? DAMN.
Then again, that would explain why he wasn't as funny as Joel. Mike also couldn't do the Invention Exchanges properly, so he stopped those shortly after he took over.
Eli--and now, we see the Grey Goo Theory in action.
"It's getting ready to attack."
Attack? It's a cloud of robogerms - I really don't think it has a plan...
dieselcreek,
Joel Robinson, MST3K, from the "Teenagers From Outer Space" episode.
I made it myself.
wished you'd been here, too...
WoodyGuthriesGuit
Thanks.
I sure I wish I could have. Next year - I'll just make that happen. A week earlier would be great. I could come down, go the fair, come back up here for another week or so. It would be easy - that early I know I can get someone to look after the cat, so I'm not driving around with him in the car, or putting him in strange rooms and shit. He's young still and not exactly a sedate creature.
Yeah, us south-western feminists would have just said, "Son, did you see those boobs?"
hahahaha! see, that's the deal with those puritan-types. my mother is great, but a bit puritanical. totally didn't want us looking at women as sexual objects. which is cool.
actually, i don't think she had much to do with breastage-liking. they're just so pretty!
i've probably said too much.
The trolls aren't bad enough. Now we have to have Clinton-bashing!
This is exactly what I was looking for. What exactly makes Clinton so unquestionable? Because the right hated him so? And there's an emotional identification with him because he's a symbol of reason in response to visceral hatred?
How's the reality-based community doing tonight?
I have a wicked headache from no-pizza syndrome.
I plan to apply pizza to the problem shortly.
Sentient nanobot hivemind. Shya.
And some really spectacular acting, to boot.
Nim--how's the cold?
Before the lady godiva-in-the-alley event, my last public nudity encounter was when the Red Sox won the series.
Did a few laps around the apartment complex dumping champagne on things.
(I know, doesn't count if it was you...)
Hey, Check out the pics and story from todays Anti-War march and rally in L.A. on
The Hollywood Liberal
Thanks.
The robo-germs killed the space needle!!
Damn you robo-germs!!
Damn you!!
Bush sucks.
Worst. president. Ever.
Cheney/Rumsfeld= shudders, Rice= laughable.
The rest of the administration=OY! Incompetent assholes.
I'd take Clinton back in a heartbeat.
Mine was at the Dyke March in June.
see? i live in the wrong city. houston's craziest thing is the art-car parade, which is a family friendly event, pastied-breasts notwithstanding.
it really is all about the nipple. oddly.
Ah, and the requisite "explosion-leap" shot...
Joel Robinson! OF COURSE! do'h, how could I be so blind...
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Seebach--it's not that Clinton is untouchable. But resigning over a blow job? That's not a logical followup.
I'd take Clinton back in a heartbeat.
yup. i had my qualms with him, even refused to say the pledge in highschool over his don't ask don't tell policy, but he's better than the asshole we have now.
What exactly makes Clinton so unquestionable? Because the right hated him so?
Jebus.
How stupid are you?
38-13, USC over Oregon.
How embarrassing.
And OSU went down in shame last week as well.
Horrible.
Even for a person who's not a football fan. 
hahahaha! see, that's the deal with those puritan-types. my mother is great, but a bit puritanical. totally didn't want us looking at women as sexual objects. which is cool.
Mine brought me dirty magazines.
Maybe she just didn't want to have to give me "the talk"...
Uh, don't look now but Jon is our most deranged troll (Gary Ruppert being him too). Note the OC and sadistic harping on a woman, the circular questioning that will never get to a point.
These alone would make the identification of Ted probable. I will throw in that he's been here all day long in various guises. Has he been namestealing too?
Hey Ted, your little friend gordon was guilty of racial sterotyping the other night, an Asian woman, really racist, really vulgar. But I forget. She wasn't a criminal, psycho, megafascist, auto-deified, KCIA, dog-eating, Republican promoting, Nixon-loving, nutcase so it's all right with you, isn't it.
How much you money you paying them?
" Nim--how's the cold?
Sallyh | Email | Homepage | 09.24.05 - 10:12 pm | # "
Not great, unfortunately. Been resting all day. Probably shouldn't be smoking though =x
Have you been keeping the Atriots in line today? Not letting em feed the trools?
Did I miss something? Are you people arguing that George Bush is a serial killer?
jon
George Bush: The LTK Presidency
Lie.
Torture.
Kill.
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i coulda been, had a lady friend in Ranchos about that time...so, fer sher...
Then I shall from now on entertain the notion that it was you I completely failed to notice was naked on that river bank.
It doesn't count if it was you.
Central Scrutinizer
But it was also her!
Night, Moonbats. America's poets stood up...
Leaving already? Had your fill for one day of saying "you don't know the fuck what you're talking about but I do - why? - 'cause I say so"?
Such a shame. I was really impressed with that.
Before the lady godiva-in-the-alley event, my last public nudity encounter was when the Red Sox won the series.
Did a few laps around the apartment complex dumping champagne on things.
(I know, doesn't count if it was you...)
well, hey, when the red sox win, how can you not go naked?!?!?!?
And OSU went down in shame last week as well.
No, that's a good thing.
this is just too funny to not share; from "Fundies Say the Darndest Things" http://users.rcn.com/rostmd/wina...winace/fundies/
[Replying to "After surveying the true horrible nature of YHWh through the scriptures and the implications it held, I could no longer maintain belief. what kind of madman uses 2 bears to murder 42 children for mocking a prophets [Elisha's] bald head?"]
WHAT?! thats horrible! thats just sick! who did that? I never heard anything as such. Some really sick, perverted people out there. Do you have a link? What is YHWh? Is it some cult with a few references to Christianity?"
- JesusFreakGuy, POD Warrior Forum
I'd take Clinton back in a heartbeat.
This is obvious. I'd rather take FDR back in a heartbeat, personally.
How stupid are you?
Not an answer.
This is exactly what I was looking for. What exactly makes Clinton so unquestionable? Because the right hated him so? And there's an emotional identification with him because he's a symbol of reason in response to visceral hatred?
Seebach | Email | 09.24.05 - 10:12 pm | #
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i wasn't a big fan of clinton when he was in office, but i didn't think he deserved impeachment. never really understood why the right wing hated him so much either, since he pretty much did whatever they wanted as far as policy went.
Okay, burger king actually managed to come up with a worse campaign than the "plastic creepy king" campaign.
They need to fire their fucking ad agency.
Would have thrown in a lot of other things too but I'm short of breath.
It's time to bring back streaking (without Ray Stevens, though).
rorschach,
nice!
Hecate, You'd love a picture I took last August in NY during the convention. A woman standing on the sidewalk in Manhattan holding up a sign that says "Bush can kiss my black ass".
Mine brought me dirty magazines.
Maybe she just didn't want to have to give me "the talk"...
heheheh! my mom asked during dinner at a restaurant once, if i had condoms. someone else at the table had mentioned using Norton Antivirus on his computer, so she thought it appropriate, since we were on the subject of protection.
This is exactly what I was looking for. What exactly makes Clinton so unquestionable? Because the right hated him so?
You got it. Just take one of two sides and defend it, no matter how absurd the antics nor how many lies need to be said.
You're catching on.
Staggering in late.
Chicago Dyke - if you're still here - loved your Kos essay.
Cheeba - I demand to know where you got that photo of my wife.
I'd take Clinton back in a heartbeat.
pie
I'm wondering if the Clintons are the only people around who can fix the mess we're in.
Bush the elder left them a mess, and it's like deja vu with the younger now. Damn oligarchies.
I really want Wesley Clark now, he'll throw the bastards (Bushco)in Gitmo and put them on trial.
"Mine brought me dirty magazines.
Maybe she just didn't want to have to give me "the talk"..." --
Eli
My much older sister (really a second mother) had The Joy of Sex available for my perusal. I was more fascinated by the woman's hairy armpits than anything else. Well, pretty much anything else.
How's the reality-based community doing tonight?
Don't know. Where are they?
It's time to bring back streaking (without Ray Stevens, though).
Uncle Smokes
It never really went out of style, did it. Let's see, we streaked on the night of the first snowfall in college, we streaked the library during exam week, or whenever there was no particularly evil stuff to do. Try it wearing a storm trooper mask...
I miss those days.
What have I missed?
I AM JERUSALEM.
And U of O goes down in flames.
I was more fascinated by the woman's hairy armpits than anything else. Well, pretty much anything else.
My reaction was... similar.
Woody -- How awful for her mother, your friend, all of you . . .
even refused to say the pledge in highschool over his don't ask don't tell policy
It's amazing how people reacted to that.
Did you expect that he could change that policy? At that time? And supposedly, the military *hated* him, becaue he didn't serve, blah fucking, blah.
So now they've got aWol, who's screwed them good and proper.
Be careful what you wish for.
Wasn't gonna happen.
What have I missed?
nudity0in0public, whether clinton should have resigned, and i found some beer at a convenience store! god bless the free market!
This is exactly what I was looking for. What exactly makes Clinton so unquestionable? Because the right hated him so?
Because he told the truth as long as the old bitties with cameras weren't outside his bedroom window.
The plain and simple truth, the government worked well. Look what we have now. Pinocchio and company.
Nim--I've been doing a crappy ass job of keeping the kids in line. Of course, I got really pissed when one little loser started jabbing on my daughter. That was low.
Monsieur has his IP address.
I really want Wesley Clark now, he'll throw the bastards (Bushco)in Gitmo and put them on trial.
Has he really said this?
Wasn't the couuple in JoS the hairiest you ever saw? That was part of this whole body hair thing in the seventies that included a beard fad...
The left couldn't organize a bunch of lemmings into jumping off a cliff...
You Disney faked that scene in that famous documentary where they show the lemmings, well, jumpin off a cliff? Turns out lemmings don't really do that, so the producer chased them until they ran over the cliff.
but we do have 4 seasons, sometimes all in one day.
Sounds a lot like life in SE Mich.
Republibot strategy #5: whatever you're doing, loudly and persistently accuse everyone else of doing, with as much smug satisfaction as possible. Cf. sex, drugs, media manipulation, porkbarrel spending, degradation of culture, etc.
Clinton could have been a *great* President. He wasn't- some of which was his fault and some of which was just the times. In a lot of ways he really disappointed me ('course, it isn't his job to cater to my every wish).
On the whole, though, compared to what came before and what came after, he looks damn good.
They need to fire their fucking ad agency.
fourlegsgood
Agreed.
They should just try to buy the spongemonkeys away from Subway.
Hey, Check out the pics and story from todays Anti-War march and rally in L.A. on
The Hollywood Liberal
Thanks.
HL
What, you're not gonna flog your "political cartoons" today?
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the problem with clinton was he allowed the right to sell the country off to the corporations. there is no third way.
reagan ruined this country, gw is the finishing touch. that will show up in the history books. dead or alive.
It's amazing how people reacted to that.
yeah, but i also quit the scouts over their policies on gays and atheists. i just figured that by 1992 or 93 we'd be beyond that whole "gays are icky" thing.
i was wrong, and now that i am 28 i see that he did pretty much he could with the congress that he had.
I really want Wesley Clark now, he'll throw the bastards (Bushco)in Gitmo and put them on trial.
I'm not sure what Wesley can do.
I'm not sure what anyone can do.
Hey, weren't those nanobots in The Matrix?
in clinton's defense, he was the lesser of two evils.
"Try it wearing a storm trooper mask...
I miss those days." --
Jay C.
Or a fencer's mask.
What have I missed?
A few trolls starving for lack of attention and pictures of Danika McKellar
They should just try to buy the spongemonkeys away from Subway.
tales of the blode, baby! it's marmot mayhem!!!!
If you offered me the choice between jerky and steak, or between having a finger cut off, and having two fingers cut off, I'd pick the steak and the one finger.
The fact that Clinton is better than Bush really does not answer why Clinton was supposedly excessively successful. Since Bush is the worst president ever, Warren G. Harding would be a more able replacement. This does not, however, explain any of Harding's exceptional qualities.
in the seventies that included a beard fad...
It's back baby. Downtown Madison is full of 20 something bearded anti-metrosexual metrosexuals.
I have a beard too- but more of the Don Johnson type. No white suits though...
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They should just try to buy the spongemonkeys away from Subway.
Quizno's. They totally rule, though.
in clinton's defense, he was the lesser of two evils.
lesser of three. you forgot the blessed h. ross perot who made 8 years of fiscal success possible.
i was wrong, and now that i am 28 i see that he did pretty much he could with the congress that he had.
The Congress and the media and religion.
All three suck.
Seebach - what is your gravatar? it seems vaguely familiar to me.
Clinton could have been a *great* President. He wasn't- some of which was his fault and some of which was just the times. In a lot of ways he really disappointed me ('course, it isn't his job to cater to my every wish).
Same here, but as I always say, I miss being irritated and frustrated, rather than horrified and appalled.
The fact that Clinton is better than Bush really does not answer why Clinton was supposedly excessively successful.
You must get flamed a lot. You seem like a voice of reason.
The fact that Clinton is better than Bush really does not answer why Clinton was supposedly excessively successful.
You must be kidding.
It's back baby. Downtown Madison is full of 20 something bearded anti-metrosexual metrosexuals.
I have a beard too- but more of the Don Johnson type. No white suits though...
i have been growing a hurricane beard this weekend. i'll have to shave for monday, but it's quite fun. kinda george michael-ish.
um....
Any sex jokes please?
I need some good ones for a sex-type party next wk.
ecoast | Email | 09.24.05 - 8:29 pm | #
This was from WAY upthread, but here goes:
What's the square root of 69?
8 something.
Get it?
pie | Email | Homepage | 09.24.05 - 10:26 pm | #
I was right.
Same here, but as I always say, I miss being irritated and frustrated, rather than horrified and appalled.
That's the perfect way to put it. Remember the conservative handwringing and flag-waving over sending our boys in harm's way in Kosovo? All that about wasting precious American lives?
Kee-rist....
I was more fascinated by the woman's hairy armpits than anything else. Well, pretty much anything else.
My reaction was... similar.
When it was still new, I found The Joy of Sex at a bookstore--several copies just sitting there within easy reach of my little hands.
I recall the intensity of looking at "forbidden material," but more importantly an almost scientific detachment.
Something like: So that's the big secret? Oh well.
Has he really said this?
Seebach
No, but his character is such and his social position such that he'd be predisposed to it, though that's speculation on my part.
The troll's Word of the Day seems to be "insane" and variations on it.
Tomorrow's Word will be "when".
democrats.com and afterdowningstreet.org have pics of the march up
Quiznos may have good sandwiches, but they are running a Ponzi scheme with their franchises.
Anonymous | 09.24.05 - 10:27 pm | #
You don't like Clinton? Why?
I know this will give great excitement to many here:
there is a new thread.
That Quizno's baby is a little disturbing...
You must be kidding.
Still not an answer.
Seebach - what is your gravatar? it seems vaguely familiar to me.
It's Schwarzwald. A ranting and raving maniac of ambiguous moral character.
Quizno's. They totally rule, though.
Eli |
D'oh!
"Turns out lemmings don't really do that, so the producer chased them until they ran over the cliff."
I just do not understand how they convinced the Lemmings to be stand-ins for Republicans. Amazing feat of animal training.
When it was still new, I found The Joy of Sex at a bookstore--several copies just sitting there within easy reach of my little hands.
when i was 14-17, i was astounded that the joy of sex said that many adolescent boys liked to go in the woods and masturbate together. or maybe it was everything you wanted to know about sex.
but that never happened for me. not that it would have been bad if it had, because the book assured me that was perfectly normal, but that never happened. and there were even woods where i grew up.
Well, "excessively successful" is definitely a stretch.
He was able to get elected President *twice* without the aid of either the Supreme Court or Diebold- that's gotta count for *something*.
Actually, looks like its http://www.afterdowningstreet.org , not democrats.com.
Clinton at the very least left this country with a surplus.
I was not particularly fond of him because he was such a centrist, and he was no Wellstone.
On the other hand, maybe we need to have a leader who goes with the average rather than the median. Hell, I don't know.
I DO know that Bush (and Raygun, and Nixon and Bush the Elder) has (have) been catastrophic for this country.
I got pissed at Clinton for many things - but when I see what the BFEE have done, he's a fucking saint by comparison.
And, the Repugs showed their colors by their attempt at impeachment over his sex life. Yeah, I was imcredibkly pissed at him for having done that becxause the stupid fuck KNEW it was exactly what they were looking for to b ribng himn down with, but he did it anyway.
BUT - I could have lived my entire life without hearing about the cigar incident, and, frankly, in a b etter age, that sort of detail would never have b een foisted on the US public.
That was much, much more shameful than whatever Clinton did. And so incredibly hypocritical that it still rankles.
And, oh, yeah, 45-13, with 5 minutes still left in the game......
What's the square root of 69?
8 something.
Get it?
Ugh...I'll remember that one!
By the way, is 96 when they've had an argument?
Tomorrow's Word will be "when".
I bet you have several spreadsheets open right now, along with post it notes all over your desk and computer.
I also bet your hygiene isn't too good.
Am I right?
I like some facial hair on a man, depending. Dark hair, fair skin...
Although that Ewan McGregor looks fine with some stubble.
He was able to get elected President *twice* without the aid of either the Supreme Court or Diebold- that's gotta count for *something*.
He also had a legitimate third party right-leaning candidate in both races against him.
I like that Clark met with Sheehan and the Congressional Black Caucus and spoke straight to them about what he thinks the ant-war movement should call for.
I also like that Kerry reminded students at Brown that environmental policies were birthed by a million people in the streets.
Olaf and Seebach:
The right wing hates any Democrat. Period. Clinton drew their especial ire because he tried to be nice to them, something they viewed as a sign of weakness -- which gave them another reason to hate him.
Now, somebody like Howard Dean, they'd leave alone after he made it perfectly fucking clear that not only was he not going to cave to them, he was either going to ignore them or give them a knuckles sandwich, whichever would hurt them the most. (This is one reason why the Republicans working for Bush in Florida were so glad that Kerry beat out Dean for the nomination.)
By the way:
CNN: Anti-War Rally "Huge"
Still not an answer.
Why don't you like Clinton?
He was able to get elected President *twice* without the aid of either the Supreme Court or Diebold- that's gotta count for *something*.
Well, technically the first time he owed his success to Ross Perot, taking a big chunk out of Bush's base. And the second time he was running against Bob Dole. Bob DOLE for crying out loud.
But Clinton was to the right of Jimmy Carter. The DLC's poster child. Surely this is obvious.
If our criterion for 2006 and 2008 is "America, do better. Stop smashing yourself in the head with a hammer" how exactly are we going to clean up the messes Bush has made?
clinton didn't fuck everything up.
He also had a legitimate third party right-leaning candidate in both races against him.
Who couldn't garner enough votes to make a difference.
clinton didn't fuck everything up.
You all keep bitching about Clinton.
What did he do that you didn't like?
Put up or shut the fuck up!
Our boys and girls are dying for Likud and Cheney and his pals.
Dan Daugherty Jul 8 1999, 3:00 am show options
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bj-1000 and ted7000 are same person, same person who wrote the book, the
book that apparently won't sell. No one will buy it, and the author is
desperately spamming usenet to try to get some sales.
The author has even gone so far as to write his own reviews at Amazon.
Reviews that contain the same spelling and typographical errors in bj's
spam posts here.
The average person sees these posts and concludes the spammer is a
moron, therefore not credible, and the book is probably a waste of time
and money. In fact, we see NO ONE else recommending this book. It
apparently has sold NO copies. Either that or the people who bought it
are too embarrassed to admit they wasted money on it.
Go away spammer. You've needlessly murdered trees in publishing a book
no one wants to buy. Now you are sending poor innocent electrons to
their deaths in your spam posts.
Poor Ted, he's given up at Amazon. It's the judgment of your sacred marketplace. Your ideas are rejected and your life's work is thrown on the ash heap of hackery.
No reason to take it out on women who have had the good fortune of never having met you in the flesh.
Who couldn't garner enough votes to make a difference.
Kind of like Ralph Nader. So obviously Nader has absolutely no responsibility for the atrocity now foisted upon us.
Seebach | Email | 09.24.05 - 10:33 pm | #
Nothing there.
Every thing I learned about sex I learned from my mom's subscription to early-to-mid 1970s COSMO! The things I gleaned from those pages were to serve me well later when I came to hone my talents in real-world situations... I kid you not.
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Kind of like Ralph Nader. So obviously Nader has absolutely no responsibility for the atrocity now foisted upon us.
You're pitiful. After all this time, you're still here doing that.
Who couldn't garner enough votes to make a difference.
1992
Clinton - 43.01
Bush - 37.45
Perot - 18.91
Perot + Bush > Clinton
1996
Clinton - 49.23
Dole - 40.72
Perot - 8.40
Perot + Bush = Clinton
As always, you're wrong.
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any intelligent comments here at all
Dan Daugherty Jul 9 1999, 3:00 am show options
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Bje1000 wrote:
> is reading a phds life work intefering with your searh for understanding and
> emotional support?? Didn't the church grow to be the most successful
> institution on earth from constant preaching? Maybe your petty resentments are
> preventing you from understanding. Maybe you resist help from those who can
> give it to you?
> >individual searches for understanding and emotional support.
bJ,
If Jesus Christ himself employed your methods to spread the word,
there would be no Christianity. If you want to sell your book, go to
a PR firm, pay them and then you just stand by and let the
professionals do it. You are screwing it up and alienating potential
customers. If you are this clueless about sales (showing you have no
understanding of human nature), one has to imagine you are also
equally clueless in the realm of marriage relationships. It is not
wise to take advice from fools. That is why no one wants to hear what
you have to say.
-- Dan Daugherty
clinton didn't fuck everything up.
You all keep bitching about Clinton.
What did he do that you didn't like?
Put up or shut the fuck up!
pie | Email | Homepage | 09.24.05 - 10:36 pm | #
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saying that he didn't fuck everything up isn't really bitching, but since you asked:
he destroyed afdc.
he allowed an enormous ammount of media consolidation.
he continued and extended the "war on drugs".
After all this time, you're still here doing that.
No. I hold Nader responsible. I'm merely pointing out a flaw in your logic.
I would say Clinton's flaw was shifting the Democratic party to the right. Which doesn't look to be rectified anytime soon.
He also didn't do anything meaningful about our oil dependence or global warming.
He also had a legitimate third party right-leaning candidate in both races against him.
Actually, Clinton probably would have done better in both 1992 and 1996 if there weren't any third-party candidates.
Exit polling showed clearly that Perot didn't affect the outcome of the race, but the "Clinton only won because of Perot" myth is beloved by both Republicans and certain lefties. Here's an excerpt:
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Let’s start with some actual data. If Perot hadn’t been in the 92 race, would Bush the elder have beaten Clinton? The exit polling was abundantly clear, and it was widely reported. On November 8, 1992—five days after the election—E. J. Dionne penned a first report in the Post. Headline: “Perot Seen Not Affecting Vote Outcome:”
DIONNE (11/8/92): Ross Perot's presence on the 1992 presidential ballot did not change the outcome of the election, according to an analysis of the second choices of Perot supporters.
The analysis, based on exit polls conducted by Voter Research & Surveys (VRS) for the major news organizations, indicated that in Perot's absence, only Ohio would have have shifted from the Clinton column to the Bush column. This would still have left Clinton with a healthy 349-to-189 majority in the electoral college.
And even in Ohio, the hypothetical Bush "margin" without Perot in the race was so small that given the normal margin of error in polls, the state still might have stuck with Clinton absent the Texas billionaire.
The VRS polled more than 15,000 voters. On November 12, Dionne provided more details about Perot voters:
DIONNE (11/12/92): In House races, Perot voters split down the middle: 51 percent said they backed Republicans, 49 percent backed Democrats. In the presidential contest, 38 percent of Perot supporters said they would have supported Clinton if Perot had not been on the ballot and 37 percent said they would have supported Bush.
An additional 6 percent of Perot voters said they would have sought another third-party candidate, while 14 percent said they would not have voted if Perot had not run.
We all know exit polls are imperfect. But these are the actual available data about the preferences of Perot voters. Nor was this exit poll kept secret. One day after the election, the AP sent the news far and wide. (Headline: “Perot's Voters Would Have Split In a Two-Way Race”):
ASSOCIATED PRESS (11/4/92): Exit polls suggest Ross Perot hurt George Bush and Bill Clinton about equally.
The Voter Research and Surveys poll, a joint project of the four major television networks, found 38 percent of Perot voters would have voted for Clinton and 37 percent would have voted for Bush if Perot had not been on the ballot. Fifteen percent said they would not have voted, and 6 percent listed other candidates.
I would say Clinton's flaw was shifting the Democratic party to the right.
How did he do that?
saying that he didn't fuck everything up isn't really bitching, but since you asked:
he destroyed afdc.
he allowed an enormous ammount of media consolidation.
he continued and extended the "war on drugs".
Olaf glad and big
Yep. Plus, the four word idiocy:
Don't ask, don't tell.
8.4% of the vote makes you a "legitimate" candidate?
He also didn't do anything meaningful about our oil dependence or global warming.
Tell me what he did do.
And then tell me how he could have successfully achieved more.
I'll be waiting.
8.4% of the vote makes you a "legitimate" candidate?
If the winner of the election doesn't get a majority, it surely does.
I of course meant "legitimate" in terms of impact. Every candidate is legitimate.
Perot Seen Not Affecting Vote Outcome
I stand corrected, then.
I'll be waiting.
And no one will be caring.
Yep. Plus, the four word idiocy:
Don't ask, don't tell.
Idiocy?
You expected one man to change a lifetime of military prejudice (despite the fact that gays are alive and well there)?
And no one will be caring.
I sure as hell don't care, because you can't back up anything you say.
That popcorn image is fitting for you - light, fluffy, flavorless, empty. Gets stale quickly, usually ends up underfoot on a sticky floor. Cheap.
Monsieur has his IP address.
Sallyh
As my dear late mother used to say, "Use it in good health."
Lawsuits irritate--but tar and feathers satisfy.
You expected one man to change a lifetime of military prejudice (despite the fact that gays are alive and well there)?
pie
Well, yes. I mean, one man integrated blacks and whites in the military.
And Clinton did claim that he would end the military's ban on gays.
So, yes, I did expect it, and Clinton failed.
Clinton also signed orders closing wilderness areas to roads, expanded the number of protected National Heritage sites, got us in and out of Kosova without a casualty --
But most of all it usually felt like he actually wanted to please Americans. He really seemed to give a shit about how we felt about what he was doing.
George W Bush: "Why would I care what you think?"
So, yes, I did expect it
Why? Did Clinton try to do that?
If it had been up to him alone, would it have happened?
I don't understand your anger.
Anonymous | 09.24.05 - 10:54 pm | #
You haven't added any of substance to the conversation.
Say something!
I'm not angry.
And I think Clinton was a great president. But he did fail in that regard.
That popcorn image is fitting for you - light, fluffy, flavorless, empty. Gets stale quickly, usually ends up underfoot on a sticky floor. Cheap.
Anonymous
You know, this is how people argue who do not have the intelligence to debate honestly, with facts. It is also lazy.
You got a point to make? Make it. Leave the bullshit at home. Don;t bring adolescent - and utterly pointless! - insults to an adult discussion.
SD
But he did fail in that regard.
Was he on your side? Yes.
Could he have changed the minds of ignorant people singlehandedly?
Doubtful, dearest.
Clinton, like most presidents, did some things right and some things wrong (my personal favorite among the latter being NAFTA and failing to make good on his pledge to raise or eliminate the cap on earnings subject to FICA). That said, he was working against a horrifically hostile Congress and a corporate-dominated whore press. On the whole, I would say that Clinton did better than most others who have held the office (with a few notable exceptions) and amazingly well given the political situation. I also wish Clinton had kept his winkie in his pants--he must have been influenced by the ghost of Warren Harding who was caught by his wife bonking his secretary in an Oval Office closet.
Dubya has broken the mold of the office he desecrates: he hasn't got one thing right yet. Not one. Even Millard Fillmore and James Buchanan weren't that bad.
You know, this is how people argue who do not have the intelligence to debate honestly, with facts. It is also lazy.
You got a point to make? Make it. Leave the bullshit at home. Don;t bring adolescent - and utterly pointless! - insults to an adult discussion.
You have GOT to be kidding.
The person I was referring to essentially posts like this:
"What the hell do you know?
Asshole."
Every time.
Save your sanctimony, mkay?
Did they find him some negroes to hug?
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat
-Probably not. Bar wouldn't like it.
Anonymous | 09.24.05 - 11:08 pm | #
I asked you to back up your assertions, and you resorted to ad hominems.
Sad.
Here is the post that drove Sallyh to gode, threaten and work the board into lawsuits and supposedly seek my IP address.........Sallyh, bedwetting has nothing to do with psychology or sociology. It's physiological. Talk about cruel. No wonder your daughter is so screwed up.
Somebody tell this woman to chill. I restate in other words. If Sallyh explains human behavior, the behavior of any human including George Bush, in terms of these crude, unscientific, generalizations, she has no hope of ever understanding her daughters problems. If you have my IP address, then prove it and post my hometown and state. You are digging yourself a bigger and bigger hole. Stalking is not justified by the moral equivalent of saying 'your momma'. Stop it.
Was he on your side? Yes.
Could he have changed the minds of ignorant people singlehandedly?
Doubtful, dearest.
In this regard, he really was not on my side.
And I never expected him to change people's minds. I did expect him to do what he could. I. e. an executive order permitting gays to serve in the military.
Dubya has broken the mold of the office he desecrates: he hasn't got one thing right yet. Not one. Even Millard Fillmore and James Buchanan weren't that bad.
Soprano
I was trying to think of any great pieces of legislation that future generations will remember Bush for...
I got nothing.
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I did expect him to do what he could. I. e. an executive order permitting gays to serve in the military.
OMG. I can't even believe you would want that, given what we know about stuff that happens in the military among the unenlightened.
Wow.
Sallyh is the most uncouth person on this board in handling 'trolls.' Could you ever in a million years see someone like Phila, who never loses his good humor, handle a troll like this. You people have some serious problems, you better unplug from politics for awhile. It would also be advisable not to seek advise about personal problems on a political and very public website.
jon, you're slime.
Save your sanctimony, mkay?
Anonymous
Dear, leave yours at home, and I will, too.
There's enough nastiness (rather than reasoned arguments) around as it is.
And saying, well, She/He said this to me, called Me this/that/or the other is no excuse. If you want higher discourse, then don't get down in what you perceive to the gutter of someone who argues against you unfairly.
This is pretty basic, eh?
SD
Jon, you're an ass. Sallyh is one of the classiest and most tolerant people on this board. If you've pissed her off you've clearly crossed a line.
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