I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
GFGF
Can't be frist?
The Minute Waltz?
man I was still back at the cats
Meow, man. Totally meow.
What's with the blank gravatars?
Fucking scary bitch!
...what we need to do is get Ann Richards and Condoleeza Rice together.
was that dual pianos or dueling banjos?
Well, I say God bless Mr. Rosen, trying to spread a little happiness in the world.
Heaven knows Ms. Rice could use a little relaxation....
Huh?
Matthew--watching this Regime, I think of the inbred hillbillies in Deliverance.
what are the kids calling it these days?
And maybe even playing dual piano sometime.
*Nudge nudge*
Say No More!
huh. well, that explains the mullet.
Does everyone in this administration say "My goodness"? Oh yeah, not Cheney.
Heaven knows Ms. Rice could use a little relaxation....
Marcia Brady,SaneByComparison
That cunt spent more on shoes than I took home last check, and she needs relaxation?!
Holy.
Fucking.
Shit.
Fox News trying to fix a date for Condi? What the hell is this perverse country of yours!
WTF?
OK, who slipped the acid in my beer?
Speaking of sexuality, I'm watching Mask of Zorro.
Catherine Zeta-Jones is just amazingly hot.
If Rosen was trying to set them up, then, well, he's an idiot. You just don't try to set your friend up with the secretary of state during an interview.
Beyond that, do we really need to gossip about this?
I see the 'Deliverance' jokes are already made... too weird. The whole Condoleeza thing is too weird for me.
Speaking of 'Deliverance', anyone remember a band called the Connells? They redid it for one of their videos.
They're made for each other!
Chris Tucker--Monsieur concurs.
Fox News trying to fix a date for Condi? What the hell is this perverse country of yours!
Plum P
A: fucked
Sheesh, it finally hit me as to why all those driver's ed cars had two steering wheels.
Well, I just want to say that if Condi Rice aborted the black key etude, then the crime rate among pianists would drop. But, that would be wrong. Do not take me out of context.
-William Bennett
Trying to deflect the Condi and Bush rumors?
I've already used up my El Topo reference.
-
nick
Connells is in my top five
Speaking of sexuality, I'm watching Mask of Zorro.
I'm partial to Zorro the Gay Blade myself.
[singing] Ebony and ivory...
Oh comon Krusty, Bush is in on it. How do you think he gets the booze past Laura and his handlers...
I think of the inbred hillbillies in Deliverance.
I like to go on canoe float trip in southern MO and/or northern AR... when I mention that to people they inevetiably say "ever see that movie Deliverance?" Hah hah.
There was a funny SUV ad a while ago where a bunch of guys go camping in the woods. The unload all their camping gear and are sitting round the fire when the dueling bajos thing starts up in the distance... the guys look at each other and exeunt post haste!
where is Condi in the bell curve anyway?
Seriously, if she is a lesbian...
I'm somewhat conflicted about outing
her.
On the one hand, I think it's
imperative that Dems out every
prominent Repug operative/legislator
who's voted for an anti-gay agenda
(which is most of them).
They're disgusting hypocrites and
they deserve to be publically shamed.
But Rice?
You know what? She works for an
anti-gay administartion.
If she is gay....on sober reflection,
she's a disgrace too and she forfeits
her privacy.
Out her if she is.
Anybody disagree?
Steve,
Really! You have mail.
The Bu$hCo opperation has me dazed and confused.
But gossip is so much fun on Friday night... when I'm drunk.
I'm partial to Zorro the Gay Blade myself.
Sallyh
ahhh, Tanmaster Hamilton
matthew-- are they still going? I hadn't thought of them in years...
Matthew--I like George. He knows he's not a great actor, and he doesn't pretend to be.
rice = carpet muncher
( Not that there is anything wrong with that )
So Bush is Condi's beard - uh, so to speak?
Without benefit of the written transcript, it must have sounded to Condi like "Her name is Lorne Greene." No wonder she said "My goodness."
...I had hoped that CZJ would marry somebody as young and beautiful as she. Alas, money and power won out... again.
Atrios:
For the record, I have no idea what Rice's sexuality is and in her case find it almost entirely irrelevant (if she is a lesbian, and I have no reason to believe she is, there is an issue regarding contradictions with how the media treats the private lives of public figures, but that's really a separate issue and not about her per se).
Is this what they're calling circumspection these days?
nick
last I heard they were partially together...Ring is the last album I really like
it must have sounded to Condi like "Her name is Lorne Greene." No wonder she said "My goodness."
Condi wants to discipline her Little Joe.
where is Condi in the bell curve anyway?
the clapper
steve - whether or not she is gay, she is most certainly a lying whore. Nuff said.
it must have sounded to Condi like "Her name is Lorne Greene."
So Cheney is Hoss? If you need an emetic, try this website (I warned you!)
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/...11/
bonanza.html
sallyh
the au pair made rice pudding today and put almonds in it, is that done? Is it a danish thing?
For the safety of all women, I hope Condi is not gay.
Where would this leave Gwen?
Is it a danish thing?
They grow almonds in Denmark?
Hey Toby:
Still wanna deny you're a liar
about asking Atrios to re-instate
you?
Got the link this time!!!!
Anybody disagree?
Somewhat. If she took a publicaly anti-gay stance then, yes, she'd be fair game. I think there is a double standard out there in Red America when it comes to male vs. female homosexuality. Not that they are exactly tolerant of lesbians, but they are more threatened by gay men.
If this admistration's Sec. of State were a gay man I would be in favor of outing him no matter what just becuase it would undermine the Adminstration amongst its surporters much more than outing Condi (assuming she is gay).
Obvioulsy that position is not equal treatment which I do beleive all people male, female, gay or straight deserve, but it is far past time fucking around with these fascists...
Condi is definitely a dyke. She used to cunt munch with one of the lezzie Stanford Women's basktball coaches. I have a friend who saw them kissing.
if she is gay, it kind of blows the whole "women in comfortable shoes" thing
As Vizzini said, "I've hired you to help me start a war. That's a prestigious line of work with a long and glorious tradition."
Max Planck:
Your gravatar -- is that Buster Keaton in "The General"?
Simels:
You know what? She works for an
anti-gay administartion.
If she is gay....on sober reflection,
she's a disgrace too and she forfeits
her privacy.
Out her if she is.
Don't go to bed tonight thinking that you aren't a slimy sack of it, okay? Partisan hackery trumps a person's right to his personal dignity? Disgusting.
Matthew--I'm not sure. I know the Danes use almonds--marzipan is evidence of that.
from the bbc, condi wants to show us her balls
Rice warns against quitting Iraq
The US Secretary of State, Condoleezza Rice, has said that America must not abandon its mission in Iraq.
She said the American public had to realise the consequences of ceding the country to "barbaric killers".
She warned that such a move would embolden every enemy of liberty and democracy across the Middle East.
BBC state department correspondent Jonathan Beale says the speech is part of a concerted effort to halt the US public's sliding support for the war.
Where would this leave Gwen?
Gwen who?
Anybody disagree?
Yeah, I guess I do. Look, if she gets outed, I'm not gonna shed a tear for her. She knew the risks when she got in this game.
But I still feel that using sexual preference as a weapon and outing people to damage them, even in the damage comes from the side, doesn't ultimately help the cause for tolerance, whatever the short-term gain may be. I don't certainly don't think threads like this help.
It might be a little different if she was personally pushing anti-gay legislation, but as far as I know, she hasn't.
Maybe I don't have the stomach to go for the jugular the way they do, but frankly, I'd like to hold on to my humanity.
spinoza: I had to bail on that link when the cheeeeeesy theme kicked in... o boy.
Paste it on, bitch.
Condi is the consummate liar, numero uno, the best ever. She's perfect for this admalistration, even moreso if she is a lesbian, as that accentuates the general hypocrisy that seems required in Bushworld. Besides which, W is a drunk.
Despite her incompetence and her association with this corrupt fascist regime, I just can't make myself hate Condi the way I do the rest of them.
Your gravatar -- is that Buster Keaton in "The General"?
prof fate
Yes. But he's been shy lately.
Robert Plant in about 30 minutes on the scottish guy show on CBS, and Toni Collette too
OK kids, I got dragged out -again- after arriving home before. Is everyone around, and happy, and entertaining?
It's too early to turn in.
Despite her incompetence and her association with this corrupt fascist regime, I just can't make myself hate Condi
If it was only a comic opera I'd agree.
This administrations actions kills people.
When Hillary gets the Democratic nomination in '08, this sort of stuff is going to bubble up again. It's pretty dirty all the way around.
They would make a lovely couple. I hope it works out for them:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/
0,2...33,1241,00.html
Toby: Is this what they're calling circumspection these days?
Me: No. The word is castration. And for what it's worth, I think sterilizing yourself is your patriotic duty.
Hi Toby:
Just exposed you as a liar.
Here -- I'll repeat it.
For those coming in late, here's
the context.
Earlier I wrote:
Hey Tobes:
First time you got banned here,
you called it "a badge of honor."
Last time you got banned, you
entreated Atrios to reinstate you
because you liked the arguing.
Which is it?
To which the little sociopath
replied:
Simulacrum, I've never asked the proprietor of this site to reinstate my
commenting privileges.
And now the conclusion.....
WRONG!!!
LIAR!!!
Here's the quote -- and the link.
I sure wish Duncan Black would stop kicking me out of Eschaton. He knows how much
I enjoy going there to argue with his
regulars ---and a good argument is what that place needs. Without a little irritation,
how can you expect any pearls to throw
before the swine, Duncan? Come on! Get serious! That place is a circle-jerk.
Posted by Toby Petzold at 1:58 PM CDT | post your comment (0) | link to this post
http://eliwallach.tripod.com/blo...g? from=20050925
I just can't make myself hate Condi the way I do the rest of them.
The Old Man From Scene 24
you're lucky, i hate her almost as much as i hated thatcher. i dont like women who do politics like dicks
Condi's sex life is her problem. Her being Secretary of State is all of ours.
Simels:
You know what? She works for an
anti-gay administartion.
If she is gay....on sober reflection,
she's a disgrace too and she forfeits
her privacy.
Out her if she is. ----
Don't go to bed tonight thinking that you aren't a slimy sack of it, okay? Partisan hackery trumps a person's right to his personal dignity? Disgusting.
I agree with simels and Toby. Odd, that...
On the other hand, she's a lying wench who helped push an immoral invasion and death on a scale the world thought they'd forgotten.
Gay or not, she can roast in Hell, for all I care...
Hi Tobes, you lying sack of shit:
If Rice is gay, and is working
for sn anti-gay administration...
what's the difference between
her and a jew working for Nazis?
Nim--left coast shift just came on about an hour ago! We're quite awake
(AP) The release of a picture of Sec of State Rice with a strap-on penetrating the new Chief Justice Robert's rectum has so far been downplayed by the MSM. For example, Brit Hume said that this was a growing sign of the cooperation between the judicial and excutive branch. Bob Schieffer was troubled by the fact that Justice Roberts had a ball gag in his mouth. But he admitted he did not know all the facts. Karen Hughes explained to Arabic populations that the important thing was for Arabic women to be able to drive cars. So they could run down their boy friends, a la Laura Bush.
Question: Remember the 6 "snipers" who were shot dead by troops on the bridge in NO about Friday or Saturday after the storm? What really happened there? You would think that there would be SOME sort of follow-up story about it in the press, but after that afternoon I never heard a peep about it again. I mean, now everyone is claiming that there was NO crime or violence going on, but that's a pretty weird story don't you think? Who were they and why did they get into a gun battle with troops?
Oh my word......
This administrations actions kills people.
Yeah I know. Morally I should have as much contempt for her as the rest of these disgusting anti-American bastards, but for some reason I can't quite do it.
She's obviously out her depth in her position just like the rest of them & she's just as complicit in their crimes, but for some reason she doesn't elicit the same disgust in me, not sure why.
"Anybody disagree?" -- steve simels
I'm just tired of it being an issue. If a woman came forward and said, "I am Condi Rice's lover," the people who don't care would believe her, the people who care wouldn't. If her lying and her incompetence isn't enough to hang her, I think it would be counterproductive trying to get the right to dump her because she's a lesbian. We aren't looking to foster intolerance.
Plus, I think if you want to talk about your private life, you can. If you don't want to, you don't have to. That's what makes it a private life.
Evening Bats!
I'm partial to Zorro the Gay Blade myself.
Sallyh | Email | Homepage | 10.01.05 - 12:45 am | #
Just passing through but had to drop these links for Sallyh
http://www.geocities.com/
thezorr...rogayblade.html
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/
Zor...o_the_Gay_Blade
Night All, have a great weekend.
Resist the Trolls.
Bill Clinton's sex life became the air that the Republican breathed for a long long time. They destroyed the effectiveness of a presidency over a witchhunt on the basis of a simple affair. When they brought this down on the country, they made the backside story of every public figure's sexual life of interest to the public. If they wish to stop scrutiny of their members, they need to figure out how to put that genie back in the bottle and heal the rift that was generated. They set the standard. So be it.
" Nim--left coast shift just came on about an hour ago! We're quite awake
Sallyh | Email | Homepage | 10.01.05 - 12:59 am | # "
Good news then
I'm a left coaster at heart anyway. Simels is too, even if he won't admit it.
good point EkCenTriK
Personal dignity, that ineffable something that sends our SoS shoe-shopping during a national emergency that brings forth international concern. Yeah, poor, picked-on Condi, another example of the Chimperor's amazing appointments of ignorant hacks to top positions. Only surpassed by Karen Huge being sent to educate the brown folks about America's kindness in bombing them into democracy.
"what's the difference between
her and a jew working for Nazis?"
Or a French Collaborator?
you're lucky, i hate her almost as much as i hated thatcher.
Thatcher is a different story. Ugh.
I don't want revenge, I just want these crooks out of office and separated from public influence.
My, it's really guyworld here tonight, complete with stupid comments fueled by predictably juvenile, 'heh-heh' type comments and/or flat-out homophobic ones. Think about it..
So what if Rice is a lesbian?
Really. So what?
Is that bad?
Really. Why do you/would you care if she is a lesbian?
Does that somehow make you a better Democrat or something? Does it empower you?
Really. I'm listening.
She's obviously out her depth in her position just like the rest of them & she's just as complicit in their crimes, but for some reason she doesn't elicit the same disgust in me, not sure why.
Watch her clip in Farenheit 9/11 and ask yourself if you'd let a child lie to you so blatantly.
She's an accomplice to murder. And a very, very bad liar.
Old Man From Scene 24--yeah. I think it's because she doesn't look like she's enjoying herself the way Rumsfeld et al do (or did)... gives you the impression she might have a conscience.
Condi's on c-span. She looks different now.
-
I'm a left coaster at heart anyway. Simels is too, even if he won't admit it.
Nim | Email | 10.01.05 - 1:01 am | #
Nim, kiddo -- I'm not sure what
this means!
I'm all for exposing hypocricy.
It's what they are, it's what they do.
That is a really weird exchange, even for fox news. I mean, wtf, seriously?
"Condi's on c-span. She looks different now." --
-
QuentinCompson Killing Rats
Happier? Glowing? More fulfilled?
Simels, I read your hysterical little comments on the previous thread and you're simply wrong. I have never asked Atrios to reinstate my privileges. He just does it because there's no reason to even host comments if all it's going to be is a bunch of wankers going, "Frist!" and talking about their goddamned animals.
In fact, I've written the man a total of one time ---and that was probably a year or more ago when I told him he was a hypocrite for banning me when people here were openly threatening me with violence and posting my physical address. He wouldn't let me defend myself, but let people like you say some truly evil shit.
Otherwise, I don't bug him unless he actually shows up to make fun.
"Remember my people, there is no shame in being poor, only in dressing poorly."
Sayeth Zorro the Gay Blade.
When they brought this down on the country, they made the backside story of every public figure's sexual life of interest to the public.
Absolutley. They have made every peccadillo, every misstep, every poorly phrased utterance fair game.
If anyone deserves to get hoist on their own petard it is a Republican public figure. Any or all of them.
I don't buy the "They started it" argument. Liberals have an interest in promoting tolerance for gays. Fanning the flames of hatred isn't going to help that, regardless of what they did to Bill Clinton.
As for the nazi argument, well, sure, but would outing a jewish nazi really have stopped the genocide?
Bill Clinton's sex life became the air that the Republican breathed for a long long time.
Yet, Gingrich is considered a contender for 08.
America, we hardly knew thee....
Dual Piano!
Heh. That worthless twit has spent all her creds working for the Worst. Admin. Ever.
I fail to see how her race or gender has advanced a thing in the world of politics or womens rights.
Karen, *man hands* is mocked the world over.
These losers don't know or respect the *real world* Fuck 'em!
gives you the impression she might have a conscience.
Maybe that's it. That would certainly differentiate her from the George W. Bush and Tom Delays of the world.
Didn't her drag queen cousin, Vaginal Davis, already out her?
Gingrich is considered a contender for 08.
The details of his personal life make interesting reading.
Think about it..
So what if Rice is a lesbian?
Really. So what?
Is that bad?
Really. Why do you/would you care if she is a lesbian?
Because if she is she's a
disgusting hypocrite working for
an anti-gay administration. She's
using her closeted privacy to
hurt other gays.
Stop pretending to be naive.
That's sick and worth exposing.
Really. I'm listening.
I told ya.. gay or not, she can roast in hell.
I think Simels has talked himself into a big hole. Let's watch him crawl out. Assuming that he even wants to.
but would outing a jewish nazi really have
stopped the genocide?
Royko | Email | 10.01.05 - 1:06 am |
No, but as a Jew it would have made
me feel a lot better.
Karma!
condi deserves a seat at the hague next to the rest of The Shrubery...
that should be the mission, not outing her
Yet, Gingrich is considered a contender for 08.
Hahahahahahaha. Shit, are we gonna contract ON America agsin?
I think Simels has talked himself into a big hole. Let's watch him crawl out.
Assuming that he even wants to.
Toby Petzold | Email | Homepage | 10.01.05 - 1:09 am | #
Oh yeah?
Ripley: agh, Gingrich isn't going anywhere... I don't know which lying sack of shit they'll run, but it has to have *plausible* likability & at least an *appearance* of humanity.
"Nim, kiddo -- I'm not sure what
this means!
steve simels | Email | 10.01.05 - 1:05 am | # "
It just means I've lived on both coasts, and yer a left coast person. It's ok, it's treatable with prescription medication ^_^
What party would it be, Simels, that you agree with on every single point without exception?
You can call it what you want, but it's some sort of fascism. I know that much.
Well, I don't care who's gay or not. I do care who leads our country, and those who lie daily and who live as lifelong hypocrites are lacking a moral center, and don't belong leading the nation, because they are weak and have learned to justify lies as policy. It's a character thing, not a sex thing. They ran on character, and their chief weapon is character assassination. It is merely being turned against them, and deservedly. Whatever it takes to bring them down is what we're left with, and it's their own damn fault.
it doesn't even really matter whether she's a lesbian or not. the rightists really only have a problem with butch lesbians anyway, so they wouldn't care. it was kind of a weird interview, though. a serious journalist would never use an interview with the sec of state as an opportunity to plug his friend's piano cd. it would have been disrespectful to rice if she were an authentic sec of state.
Karma!
Polo!
"That's sick and worth exposing." --
steve simels
But how does a closeted gay Sec of State affect the lives of gay Americans, other than holding up her existence to say, "Look, a gay Republican. George likes her. If you like her, you have to accept gays"?
Go for it, Toby!
I don't know which lying sack of shit they'll run, but it has to have *plausible* likability & at least an *appearance* of humanity.
Sorry, we're fresh out!
Really. So what?
Is that bad?
No it isn't and I don't care. But if you beleive that Bush was fairly elected in 2004, you'd have to accept that his election was made possible by the homophobia of the Bush base.
Rove bragged that he got 3,000,000+ more evangelicals to vote for Bush than voted for him in 2000, and what got them to the polling station? The prospect of gay marriage, thats what.
That fact alone makes prominent Republicans' sexuality very relevant.
Sorry, we're fresh out!
They'll run Bennett?
" if all it's going to be is a bunch of wankers going, "Frist!" and talking about their goddamned animals."
Wait just a minute Bub!, those are exactly the reasons I come here. The rest of it is all icing on the cake, glazing on the doughnut, the pads on the brakes, the letters on the keyboard, the grass on the lawn, the meow on the cat, the numbers on the check, the wings on the fly, the channels on the TV, the carpet on hte floor, wind beneath my wings...
This is exhausting. Hold on I have to catch my breath.
Condi is definitely a dyke. She used to cunt munch with one of the lezzie Stanford Women's basktball coaches. I have a friend who saw them kissing.
booshit
thanks atrios, you really brought out the best in your comments section with this stupid fucking pointless post.
It just means I've lived on both coasts, and yer a left coast person. It's ok, it's treatable with prescription medication ^_^
Nim
Or 300 days of sunshine a year.
But how does a closeted gay Sec of State affect the lives of gay Americans,
other than holding up her existence to say, "Look, a gay Republican. George
likes her. If you like her, you have to accept gays"?
Marcia Brady,SaneByComparison | Email | Homepage | 10.01.05 - 1:11 am |
#
I get your point, kiddo, but
I think the more relevant question
is how does having a closeted gay
in an anti-gay administration
validate the anti-gay administration.
I think the answer's obvious...
she's a Jew working for Nazis.
Not helpful.
I don't buy the "They started it" argument. Liberals have an interest in promoting tolerance for gays.
Of course we do. The hypocrisy is doing our head in. They just got a conservative chief supreme court this week, we know what might happen. But Condi is fair game, she's partly responsible for the deaths of thousands of irakians and americans. We're not bitching her cause she might be gay, we're biching her cause she's part of the gov that wants to kill gay rights, and if she is indeed gay, she's even more of a bitch to be a part of that.
Happier? Glowing? More fulfilled?
I was kidding of course. But she does look sort of - wan yet ditzy. Tularemia?
-
I for one am glad Lyin' Leezie is a lesbian, so she will not pollute future generations with her genes.
rc, go back to boobs.com
Liberals license themselves to out homosexuals who disagree with them on ideological grounds. This license includes insinuation, which can be repackaged as ironic detachment and moral superiority.
EkCenTriK --
We're the sauce on your steak,
We're the cheese in your cake,
We put the spring in Springfield.
We're the lace on the nightgown,
The point after touchdown,
Yes we put the spring in Springfield
Some of you might think, like I did, that bigvic is a big burly cigar-chomping shitkicking doughy alpha male.
You would be wrong.
I don't get it. What is there about that exchange that suggests Condi's gay? Not that I care, and I wouldn't be surprised, but I don't see it.
Maybe I'm just thickish at the moment. I've been out in public, drinking (Liberally!).
"Or 300 days of sunshine a year.
Sallyh | Email | Homepage | 10.01.05 - 1:13 am | # "
Don't rub it in, you cruel woman =(
Your ass is owned, Simulacrum. And everyone here knows it. Tell me how you're doing the right thing by slagging an accomplished woman for her sexual identity just because you don't like her political views.
But how does a closeted gay Sec of State affect the lives of gay Americans,
She's selling 'hearts and minds' to the Iraqis.
"We embrace homosexuals, as long as we don't know they're homosexual and don't get cooties from them. Who wants some Democracy pie? No, dear, that burka doesn't make your ass look fat. It's fetching!"
Hi Tobes:
Coming after me for outing you
as a liar?
thanks atrios, you really brought out the best in your comments section with this stupid fucking pointless post.
rc
Hmm...
He seems to have drawn all the late-night trolls out from under the bridge.
Turn the lights back on Atrios and shoo them back under there.!
"We're the lace on the nightgown,"
Good one...
Wheezing.... Pant.....
I am almost there....
Hang on a sec, I need a cig.
where is Condi in the bell curve anyway?
the clapper
Ouch. That is sweet!
Rosen: "So, Secretary Rice. Do you put your groceries in bags?"
Rice: "Why, yes. I do. It helps me carry them."
Rosen: "My follow-up to that: Do you prefer paper or plastic? [pause] You totally don't have to answer if you don't want to."
Rice: "Paper is great, but plastic is good, too."
Rosen: "Oh, me too! But with you. Paper and plastic are both pretty great."
Rice: "Yeah."
[simultaneously] :: awkward sighs
Happier? Glowing? More fulfilled?
I was kidding of course. But she does look sort of - wan yet ditzy. Tularemia?
Botox
For those coming in late:
First time Toby got banned here,
he bragged that it was "a badge
of honor."
Last time Toby got banned, he
entreated Atrios to reinstate
him because he missed the arguments.
Wimp or shameless sell-out?
YOU make the call!!!!!!!
On Numb3rs, I want to know how this guy always has chalk.
Q. What are the signs and symptoms of tularemia?
A. The signs and symptoms people develop depend on how they are exposed to tularemia. Possible symptoms include skin ulcers, swollen and painful lymph glands, inflamed eyes, sore throat, mouth sores, diarrhea or pneumonia. If the bacteria are inhaled, symptoms can include abrupt onset of fever, chills, headache, muscle aches, joint pain, dry cough, and progressive weakness. People with pneumonia can develop chest pain, difficulty breathing, bloody sputum, and respiratory failure. Tularemia can be fatal if the person is not treated with appropriate antibiotics.
Liberals license themselves to out homosexuals who disagree with them on ideological grounds.
"Conservatives" license themselves to publicly despise homosexuals, while privately accepting their donations, employing them as staff, and supporting the political careers of those few who are willing to keep their heads down and contribute to the oppression of people like them.
Who's a fucking hypocrite?
Biohazard Sensors Triggered
Mall Germ Levels Not Likely a Threat
By Martin Weil and Susan Levine
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, October 1, 2005; B01
Biohazard sensors showed the presence of small amounts of potentially dangerous tularemia bacteria in the Mall area last weekend as huge crowds assembled, but health officials said they believed the levels were too low to be a threat.
Health authorities in the Washington area were notified last night that the bacteria were found in and near the area between the U.S. Capitol and the Lincoln Memorial, where crowds gathered Saturday for an antiwar rally and a book festival.
The notification, which came from federal health officials through the Metropolitan Washington Council of Governments, said that after the initial detection, subsequent tests "supported the presence of low levels" of the bacteria. However, officials also said they did not believe the findings posed a health problem.
"We pretty much feel there is no public health threat here," said Von Roebuck, a spokesman for the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, noting that there have been no reports of tularemia, the disease that is caused by the bacteria. "We just wanted to alert the medical community to watch out for cases."
Health officials said the usual incubation period for tularemia is less than a week.
Roebuck said people who were on the Mall but who do not have symptoms need not be concerned.
Symptoms include fever, chills, headache, muscle ache, joint pain, dry cough and conjunctivitis.
Officials said the quantities detected were too small for an attack.
In nature, the bacteria are found in rodents and small animals, and "the working hypothesis" is that something in the environment got stirred up, D.C. Public Health Director Gregg A. Pane said.
But he said it was puzzling that the finding was from a day when the Mall was packed with people.
"Why that day? That's what is not explained," Pane said. "It was just this 24-hour period and none since."
At least one official suggested that so many people on the Mall might have triggered the alert, since dry conditions would have made it easier to raise dust.
Tularemia is not spread from person to person. It can be contracted by direct contact with the bacteria that cause it -- by swallowing them or, if they have been suspended in air, through inhalation.
The germ that causes tularemia is considered a biohazard because it is highly infectious and was tested in the 1960s by the United States as a biological weapon. The disease is treatable by antibiotics but, if left untreated, can be fatal.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
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in case you missed it earlier
http://www.shootfirstlaw.org/
"Not helpful." -- steve simels
I agree, except 5 minutes at FreeRepublic shows that there is no backflip too daring that these true believers wouldn't perform to be able to continue justifying this administration.
Support the troops, except for body armor, freedom from forced reenlistment, health care, trashing an actual soldier to support a chickenhawk and his chickenhawk VP.
No nation-building, except when we feel like it.
The list goes on.
I just think using a persons' sexual orientation causes more loss than gain.
And remember that besmirched Clinton went out with higher approval ratings than St. Ronald of Reagan.
Tell me how you're
doing the right thing by slagging an accomplished woman for her sexual identity
just because you don't like her political views.
Toby Petzold | Email | Homepage | 10.01.05 - 1:16 am | #
Justify a closeted gay working for
an anti-gay administration.
Steve, the comments are rolling by too fast, but maybe you don't get that I was posting some disappointment with Atrios' original post...that it is somehow interesting or (god forbid, Important) to continue to speculate whether Rice is a lesbian. As a lesbian and a Democrat, I don't give a shit if she is, but I don't like the suggestion that if she is, that that somehow 'means' something. I don't like it when politicians (and I don't know that she "is", and don't care) are judged by their sexuality. I care more about who in government (at all levels) is taking big money from whom, dig?
Q. What are the signs and symptoms of tularemia?
I don't know... but it's a long way to Tipperary!
Wimp or shameless sell-out?
YOU make the call!!!!!!!
Ummmm . . . waste of oxygen a human could be breathing?
Justify a closeted gay working for
an anti-gay administration.
Post administration book deals.
toby, you referred to rice as an "accomplished woman". granted, she earned a phd (in soviet politics or some other cold war related specialty, i believe). good for her. but lots of people have phds. what did she accomplish as nsa, and what has she accomplished as sec of state? i can't think of anything.
I, ‘El Gato Negro! have no read thees thrrread all the way through.
I am here to say that thees wankerrrita, thees frotacionado named how-joo-say "Yglesias"...
She can mamiento my culo un-teel eet jumps off my leetle Gato body and goes to find a more sympathetic host.
Thees theeng that Bennet said, eet was unmeestakably Race-eest.
Thees how-joo-say "thought-experiment", she ees how-joo-say "immoral" no matter how-joo-say "how joo slice eet".
Thees leetle wankerrita, "Yglesias" (‘ackhkh pthooie!) can no attempt to explain thees matter away weeth-out breengeeng up the hairballs, (een any normal person or gato).
Yglesias = Wankerrr
so.
Officials said the quantities detected were too small for an attack.
Horse shit. according to the CDC (the recognized authority in this area)
10-50 organisms is enough to cause an infection.
http://www.bt.cdc.gov/agent/tula...laremia/
faq.asp
Please, please, please, Condi can't be playing on my team.
After all, isn't Bushco her "husband???"
Interesting that the troll thinks we're down on Condi (so to speak) because of her political views, when it's actually because she aids and abets mass murder and ethnic cleansing. As I see it, we're merely using the weapons that the other side brought to the fight. It's as if the loser in a duel chose pistols and then complained that it wasn't fair because the other guy was a better shot. The hateful homophobia of the right has come home to roost; it's a tool they have provided time and again. Since my country is in danger from them and their psycho policies, a little judo technique is in order.
I know I like to play my organ 
Liberals license themselves to out homosexuals who disagree with them on ideological grounds.
Virginia:
"Conservatives" license themselves to publicly despise homosexuals, while privately accepting their donations, employing them as staff, and supporting the political careers of those few who are willing to keep their heads down and contribute to the oppression of people like them.
Who's a fucking hypocrite?
The liberal. Because tolerance of gays is a principle with him, openly stated and practiced. But to use it deliberately to hurt or impugn is worse than a conservative who condemns homosexuality while giving individual homosexuals the chance to work and succeed, anyway.
doug--haven't read the WaPo article; was the concentraion used revealed in it?
"After all, isn't Bushco her "husband???" -- Dartanyon
I think she meant it as "He beats the crap out of me when he gets drunk" kind of husband.
El Gato Negro--chicken with mint leaves and chiles?
It's simply an expression meaning a piano duet. Why is this being interpreted as sexual?
Toby:
"[A]ccomplished?" You've got to be kidding!
Name one positive accomplishment of this woman's career in the Bush administration.
Toby:
"[A]ccomplished?" You've got to be kidding!
Name one positive accomplishment of this woman's career in the Bush administration.
Steve, the comments are rolling by too fast, but maybe you don't get that I was posting some disappointment with Atrios' original post...
-peggy
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the original post was just a transcript of a characteristically bizarre fox interview. he didn't write it himself.
Sallyh
10 bacteria needed to cause and infection is near the minimal limits to even detect their presense.
Simulacrum of Truth:
Last time Toby got banned, he
entreated Atrios to reinstate
him because he missed the arguments.
Wimp or shameless sell-out?
You're a weaselly craphound. Never mind the chimerical part of that; just know it.
It's as if the loser in a duel chose pistols and then complained that it wasn't fair because the other guy was a better shot.
Exactly. They use homophobia to gain paoer, so using the issue against them is fair game.
Toby, it's the hypocrisy, not the homosexuality.
I don't care either way. She'll roast in Hell for her part in the war crimes.
A slot at the Hoover Institute is not emblematic of being accomplished.
Rice was universally reviled at Stanford.
Perhaps someone already mentioned this in the mass of comments above, but I didn't see it:
We're talking about Fox News, right? Well, it's populated with idiots and bigots. Hence the Fox reporter is so amazed that two black women were able master classical piano that both of these freaks need to meet each other. After all, they must be the only ones in the whole wide world and would have so much to talk to each other about.
I can appreciate various facets to the arguements on this. But I cannot abide any notion of being fair to these murderous thugs.
That's a sucker play.
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paoer?
power.
Fate:
Name one positive accomplishment of this woman's career in the Bush administration.
Well, she's well-spoken.
arguments
Doesn't it say enough about what a fucknut she is that she's a black, female, possibly lesbian REPUBLICAN?
Does she burn herself with cigarrette butts? Cut herself with a razor knife? Bang her head on watertiger's desk? How much less self-respect could a human have?
"Name one positive accomplishment of this woman's career in the Bush administration.
prof fate | 10.01.05 - 1:26 am | # "
Well, she's been promoted a lot, and risen to positions of power and influence.
So, um...QED. Right?
Oh wait...
doug--ouch.
(goes off to learn about tularemia)
I mean, she's shown that she can be articulate.
No, Toby. She's simply shown that she can lie with a straight face.
As I said before, her sex life is her own problem. Her being secretary of state is all of ours.
Sallyh, guess what I'm listening to..
'Only the Lonely' - The Motels
Are you back in 1982 like I am?
Well, I don't remember
All I know is it makes me feel good now
As a lesbian and a Democrat, I don't give a shit if she is, but I don't like the suggestion that if she is, that that somehow 'means' something.
peggy, I'm a lesbian and I'm a democrat, and i do give a shit if she or anyone else in this gay-obliterating, gay-marginalizing, gay-hating, gay-depisping, gay-hurting administration is. Powerful and sheltered, closeted gay politicians who make and carry out policies that systematically subjugate gays-- this "means something" to me, as a lesbian, and as democrat, and as a human.
I care more about who in government (at all levels) is
taking big money from whom, dig?
peggy | Email | Homepage | 10.01.05 - 1:20 am | #
Wow....
In a better world, I would agree
with you.
But I think gays that collude with
the worst homophobes in the world
need to be called on it.
If Condi is or isn't isn't the issue.
It's that gays like Dreier who
push anti-gay agendas don't get
called on it.
And they should.
They're disgraceful hypocrites who
degrade our discourse and should
be publically shamed.
It's not their sexuality that's
the issue.
It's their Machiavlllian duplicity.
Sorry if I'm sounding angry.
But as a Jew, I can't shake
the Nazi collaborator comparisons.
Am I wrong?
Olaf, I actually know that, and if you read my earlier comment you'd know it too. Glad to see the comments are actually shifting to Rice's egregious politics, as opposed to her questionable sexuality (which is really no one's business), and was my original point.
Condi is pathetic, that's all.
Good Goddess, look who she's working for! Talk about working for the enemy!
Seems to me girlfriend's been in deep, deep denial about who and what she is for waaaay too long.
Anyway, there seems to be a lot of liberal-Left abuse of people's sexual identities for partisan reasons at this blog.
Ripley--wherever you go, there you are. And I'm happy to join you
Exactly. They use homophobia to gain paoer, so using the issue against them is fair game.
Using homophobia is only going to perpetuate homophobia.
The liberal. Because tolerance of gays is a principle with him, openly stated and practiced. But to use it deliberately to hurt or impugn is worse than a conservative who condemns homosexuality while giving individual homosexuals the chance to work and succeed, anyway.
Toby Petzold
I've read this about four times, and I still don't know what the fuck it's supposed to mean.
If a person who is a pastor goes about his community judging others and prescribing an Old Testament morality to people is found with his dick in the mouth of a 13-year old hooker, Christians should decry him.
If a gay person allies him/herself with a movement that seeks to make life difficult for people like him/her in order to increase his/her own power or wealth, that person should be decried by people who oppose this philosophy. He/she should be pointed out for hypocrisy.
It's not their sexuality that's
the issue.
It's their Machiavlllian duplicity.
Simels gets it.
yup.
Don't fool yourselves, Condi has no conscience. Chevron's employee of the year lied us into war to get Chevron cheap mineral rights. Her so-called expertise in Russia has almost single handedly restarted the Cold War.
I'm not a lesbian, but I'll subscribe to lavalamp's newsletter...
Well, I don't care if she fucks mules, the fact remains that she's a liar, an incompetent and is hurting the USA.
Well, she's well-spoken.
Toby Petzold | Email | Homepage | 10.01.05 - 1:28 am | #
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I mean, she's shown that she can be articulate.
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she's the fucking secretary of state. well spoken? can be articulate? what the fuck are you talking about? that's not an accomplishment, that's just the most basic prerequisite.
Hey Toby:
Why did you drop the argument about
whether or not you're a lying sack
of shit in re: if you asked
Atrios to reinstate you?
Was the Condi argument a better
rhetorical tack?
The other issue to bring up is the security clearance problem with a closeted gay.
If they are out of the closet, (are publicly gay) they can not be blackmailed. If they are closeted, and worried about the public revelation of their gayness, then they can be blackmailed.
"After all, isn't Bushco her "husband???" -- Dartanyon
I think she meant it as "He beats the crap out of me when he gets drunk" kind of husband.
Marcia Brady,SaneByComparison
Or when M4M Military Stud for Hire, AKA, Jeff Gannon, isn't available for him to milk and he resents Condi not having a phat cock to milk.
Steve, I agree with you about Dreier and other closet cases. They make me sick too. And hello, fellow citizens?! We must find a way to expose their hypocrisy, whatever side of the 'aisle' they claim to represent.
Well, she's well-spoken.
Toby Petzold
So unusual in those of her race. Therefore . . . oh. Never mind.
Robert Plant on CBS: very wrinkly but the voice is still there
"Am I wrong?" -- steve simels
You're counting on people to be logical. My father was a raging anti-semite, but he bent over backward for the one Jewish guy he liked. Kind of his pet Jew. Same for African-Americans and women.
If Rice were gay, and she were outed, she would be the Andy Sullivan of the State Department. Untill she broke ranks, and then the knives would come out.
I just think the danger of promoting private "flaws" is a losing proposition.
I already believe there is no way she would win if she chooses to run for president.
Simels, your Jew collaborator analogy is offensive crap because Republicans aren't rounding up and gassing gays. Got that? You can throw a fit and imagine that you are on a short list of dissidents just waiting to be rubbed out by the State, but, in fact, you are an hysterical old queen who missed out on Stonewall.
They ain't comin' for you, boy. They just don't want you to get married.
Get married, anyway.
Using homophobia is only going to perpetuate homophobia.
How would pointing out to homophobes that a prominent Republican is gay in order to undermine an anti-gay Administration perpetuate homophobia?
If by doing so we can negate the value of using homophobia in politics surely we are advancing the cause of equal rights.
I can understand why FUX News would be reduced to doing bullshit softball interviews with Rice. I mean, what are you going to ask someone who is probably the most ineffective Secretary of State in at least the last century? What does whe have to say these days? The usual bullshit about staying the course in Iraq?? Nobody really has any respect for her, in my opinion. Oh yeah, when she goes overseas, leaders pay lip service to her, but the minute she gets back on a plane, they give her a resounding "FUCK YOU!" and get back down to business as usual. Nobody gives a fuck about Condi Rice except Condi Rice and her ass-kissers on FOX.
doug, repig gays blackmail themselves voluntarily, and the result is more repression for their fellow gays. Machiavellian behavior is the perfect description.
Robert Plant on CBS: very wrinkly but the voice is still there
Plum P
He looks like his own father.
Damn. seeing him now makes me feel old.
because Republicans aren't rounding up and gassing gays.
But many in their base would like to.
Ah, Jesus, Virginia, don't depress the IQ around here, please.
Let's consider some pragmatics about Rice. If she is sheltering a lesbian lifestyle, she is then in a situation that means she can be coerced. There are many people who have held some form of security rating only to have it removed because they were susceptible to extortion. It was not the fact they had an aspect that was unpopular, but the fact it was unknown and deliberately hidden that opened them up to manipulation. Second, if she is part of a segment that is frequently discriminated against, open to hate crimes and is actively campaigned against, her condoning even by omission of these actions on others is reprehensible unless she has a stated reason for allowing it.
It doesn't matter what her specific trait is, it could be anything that under the circumstances generates questions on her ability to work in a highly classified position and her integrity.
"I already believe there is no way she would win if she chooses to run for president."
Marcia Brady,
I agree with you, especially after the shopping for shoes debacle while Hurricane Kristina was taking its toll. She won't be allowed to forget that.
Speaking of "abuse of people's sexual identities for partisan reasons," isn't that why David Dreier was passed over for Roy Blunt?
The GOP can't have too many fags that close to Bush or he might not get any work done the 46% of the time he's actually on the job.
Name one positive accomplishment of this woman's career in the Bush administration.Well, she's well-spoken
Toby Petzold 10.01.05 - 1:28 am
Joo race-eest, peeg-fuck-eeng, culo-mamiento, son-of-a-beetch.
So, een jour esteemed opinion-theengy, her best feature ees that she ees articulate?
Trollita, joo better do jour best to make sure joo do no come back as a mouse.
just how-joo-say "say-eeng".
Using homophobia is only going to perpetuate homophobia.
Royko | Email | 10.01.05 - 1:32 am | #
I don't agree, but even if you're
right, it still gives the bastards
a tactical advantage they don't
deserve.
Well, she's well-spoken.
Toby Petzold | Email | Homepage | 10.01.05 - 1:28 am | #
I mean, she's shown that she can be articulate.
Toby Petzold | Email | Homepage | 10.01.05 - 1:29 am | #
Y'know, fer a nigger.
because Republicans aren't rounding up and gassing gays.
Old Man:
But many in their base would like to.
But the fact is that they ARE NOT ROUNDING UP AND GASSING GAYS.
But they like to stone 'em to death in Saudi Arabia. Maybe y'all would prefer Muslim views of gay rights, hmm?
Dartanyon--he's on the job 46 percent of the time? That sounds way too high.
"They ain't comin' for you, boy. They just don't want you to get married."
You damn well know the GOP isn't content with keeping gays from being married. They don't want gay people to exist. They don't want them to be employed, to live with or love someone of the same sex, to be "out," to share the same basic human rights as the rest of the world. YOU may not have a problem with any of this, but the GOP milks the homophobe agenda for all it's worth.
Dartanyon--he's on the job 46 percent of the time? That sounds way too high.
Sallyh
Yeah, it's probably 26% of the time.
Meanwhile, I'm off to bed. Nite all, sweet dream, and I hope Atrios sprays for trolls.
This latest infestation is annoying.
Oh hell.
Can't you see how *noble* it is for Dick Cheney to work for a President who denies his hardworking lesbian daughter the same right the President's party animals have to be 'married'?
Can't you see how uplifting sacrifice is, when a Republican hides his or her true self in order to promote tax cuts for the wealthiest 1% of the country or to close the borders to brown people with hedge trimmers?
God Damn It- this is America- selling yourself out for the Greater Good is what we're all about!!!
Why did you drop the argument about
whether or not you're a lying sack
of shit in re: if you asked
Atrios to reinstate you?
I already proved that you're a liar on that.
Was the Condi argument a better
rhetorical tack?
Oh ho! You have to ask?
Atriotistas, 'sta luego.
so.
gene214, right the fuck on. This whole administration is populated from top to bottom with losers and nitwits, and there is no respect anywhere in the world for any of them. Rumsfeld is nuts, Cheny is invisible, W can't speak English, Condi is brainless, Frist is a crook, Delay is a crook, Hastert is a tool, and Karen Hughes is out there fixing it all. I can't think of a single thing that they've accomplished that is a positive for us.
bubbles are fun
goodnight bats
Tularemia is not spread from person to person. It can be contracted by direct contact with the bacteria that cause it -- by swallowing them or, if they have been suspended in air, through inhalation.
The germ that causes tularemia is considered a biohazard because it is highly infectious and was tested in the 1960s by the United States as a biological weapon. The disease is treatable with antibiotics but, if left untreated, can be fatal.
The country has spent more than $200 million to install the sensor system known as BioWatch in more than 30 U.S. cities. Samples from sensors are collected daily to check for pathogens such as those that cause anthrax, smallpox or plague.
More than a half-dozen sensors operating from 10 a.m. Saturday to 10 a.m. Sunday -- at sites including the Lincoln Memorial, Fort McNair and Judiciary Square -- detected the bacteria, Pane said he was told.
He said the CDC expected to notify hospitals nationwide as a precaution because so many people came from out of town to the Mall last weekend.
Similarly, he said, he expected area health officials to watch for symptoms into next week.
Authorities recommend that people who visited the Mall between 10 a.m. Sept. 24 and 10 a.m. Sept. 25 should see a physician if they experience symptoms.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...3001775_pf.html
awwwww, fuck!
Simels, your Jew collaborator analogy is offensive crap because Republicans aren't rounding up and gassing gays. Got that? You can throw a fit and imagine that you are on a short list of dissidents just waiting to be rubbed out by the State, but, in fact, you are an hysterical old queen who missed out on Stonewall.
They ain't comin' for you, boy. They just don't want you to get married.
Get married, anyway.
What the fuck... what the motherfucking fuck?!?
You go from 'don't judge her if she might be gay' to that???
You are not right, friend...
"I agree with you, especially after the shopping for shoes debacle while Hurricane Kristina was taking its toll. She won't be allowed to forget that." -- Sandy-L.A., 90034
It is just instinctual, but if the core of their base is the manly-man, white-pride, truck-driving guy, is there any way he's going to take orders from a black, shiney-stiletto-boot-wearing woman? I mean, outside the bedroom?
Hey Toby:
Simels, your Jew collaborator analogy is offensive crap because Republicans
aren't rounding up and gassing gays. Got that? You can throw a fit and imagine
that you are on a short list of dissidents just waiting to be rubbed out by the
State, but, in fact, you are an hysterical old queen who missed out on Stonewall.
Yeah, it's probably 26% of the time.
I doubt it's even that.
the shopping for shoes debacle: that will follow her for ever. A silly vanity thing hurt her more than other atrocities she's been part of
the shopping for shoes debacle: that will follow her for ever. A silly vanity thing hurt her more than other atrocities she's been part of
But they like to stone 'em to death in Saudi Arabia. Maybe y'all would prefer Muslim views of gay rights, hmm?
Toby Petzold
Hilarious. You talk to me about lowering the local IQ?
You're not this fucking stupid. You're also, I'm betting, not this much of a bigot.
But the fact is that they ARE NOT ROUNDING UP AND GASSING GAYS.
Again they'd like to, its only that damn godless Constitution that prevents them. Another Bush SCOTUS appointee and maybe "y'all" will get your wish.
But they like to stone 'em to death in Saudi Arabia.
Ah yes Saudi, the same repressive dictatorship that Bush routinely gives a pass too thereby encouraging MORE THAN ANY OTHER COUNTRY ON THE PLANET the likes of Osama bin fucking Laden, remember him?
It's a well known fact that blacks are the cause of most violent crime in America. Further, blacks graduating from prison move on to commit more heinous violent crimes. This suggests three clear and self evident policy prescriptions.
A.)Longer sentences for black encarceree's.
B.)Build more prisons exclusive for blacks.C.)Criminalize abortion except for poor black welfare mothers.
stupid tags. I blame Nagin & Blanco. And the scotch.
Authorities recommend that people who visited the Mall between 10 a.m. Sept. 24 and 10 a.m. Sept. 25 should see a physician if they experience symptoms.
Jesus. Fucking. Christ.
"I blame Nagin & Blanco. And the scotch.
The Old Man From Scene 24 | Email | 10.01.05 - 1:44 am | # "
I reject the idea that anybody would post at Eschaton after having drinks on a weekend night.
" stupid tags. I blame Nagin & Blanco. And the scotch." --
The Old Man From Scene 24
Damnit, never blame the scotch!
Marcia Brady - You have a way with words - I salute you!
As much as I hate the Administration and Faux News, for once I have to grant that they were speaking straight (as it were). Apparently Our Girl Condi is an aspiring concert pianist who has played with Yo-Yo Ma (musically, at least).
stupid tags. I blame Nagin & Blanco. And the scotch
must have been a blend, no single malt would do that to you
tularemia Treatment
Victims with tularemia who do not receive appropriate antibiotics may have a prolonged illness with weakness and weight loss. Treated properly, very few people with tularemia die. A 14-day course of streptomycin is effective treatment for tularemia. Gentamicin is also effective. Although tetracycline and chloramphenicol have also been found effective, they are associated with significant relapse rates.
Although laboratory-related infections with this organism are common, human-to-human spread is unusual. Victims do not need to be isolated from others.
http://www.emedicinehealth.com/a...les/15704-
3.asp
But they like to stone 'em to death in Saudi Arabia. Maybe y'all would prefer Muslim views of gay rights, hmm?
Toby Petzold | Email | Homepage | 10.01.05 - 1:39 am | #
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toby, you don't make sense. the choice isn't between living under a regime which has granted itself the right to persecute gays to it's heart's content or one who would likem to persecute gays more, but can't quite get enough support for it. we want to live under a regime that doesn't want to persecute gays at all.
Simels, it's hardly necessary to point out Toby's repeated lies and excuses. He's shown his true racist, bigotted nature enough times for his verbal diarrhea to be scrolled right past. He has about as much to contribute here as Bill Bennett has to improved race relations.
Nim, you know what happened after USC beat Alabama in 1970? Bear Bryant went and personally asked the governor to integrate his school so that they could get some of them talented negroes on their own team.
That wasn't very long ago, was it? But it may as well have been 500 years ago.
With the rampant partisanship from the Democrats, if a Republican hasn't done enough to get an indictment from a Democrat DA, then he's obviously not working hard enough
"As much as I hate the Administration and Faux News, for once I have to grant that they were speaking straight (as it were). Apparently Our Girl Condi is an aspiring concert pianist"
Well, we already knew that. However, if your goal was simply to set up a duet between musicians, I doubt you would sell it this way:
"She is brilliant, she's beautiful, she's African American, she's single and she's a concert pianist in her spare time. "
I don't care what he says, simels, you'll always be my special old queen. umm, whatever that means...
Write that down on a napkin or something.
,i>must have been a blend, no single malt would do that to you
you are correct I have unopened bottles of Laphroaig and Balvenie, but i'm polishing off a bottle of Johnnie Walker Black Label.
Marcia B--and let's face it, only certain individuals can pull off black stiletto boots.
Just sayin'
JAMA article on tularemia as a biological weapon -
http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/con...ull/285/21/
2763
Can't trust the government; can't trust the press. Guess that leaves the cats.
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I earned that one, Ripley. Keep your breeches on.
I reject the idea that anybody would post at Eschaton after having drinks on a weekend night
After careful consideration, the council rejects your rejection. You may, however, hang one potted plant and an American flag from your balcony.
Regards,
The Council
Even if Condi isn't gay, she is black, grew up in the segregated south, in a family of fairly modest means.
And after the shame and disgrace of what happened in NEw Orleans, she had the audacity to carry water for the adminstration, deny as preposterous that race and poverty had anything to do with the delay of aid, and further, the dauther of a minister, she stood up in church and told people that they if they just kept waiting, Jesus would come and help them.
This, after she had done her shoe shopping.
Mathew: Devon is supercute
Goodnight to you all
in a rose tinted leftist world, Rice sexuality would not even be mentioned. In the reality based world, the bitch need to be put down
Her so-called expertise in Russia has almost single handedly restarted the Cold War.
George Johnston | Homepage | 10.01.05 - 1:33 am
Ahem.
Can we please get over this idea that Condi has expertise in anything about the USSR/Russia/Evil Empire?
She neither reads nor speaks fluently Russian or any other Slavic language. She therefore has not met the very most basic requirement for a grad degree in any aspect of Russian Studies at my old alma mater of University of Maryland, College Park.
And that was way back in 1979.
(They've toughened up since then.)
"and let's face it, only certain individuals can pull off black stiletto boots."
Sallyh,
But does the black stiletto boot image go over well with repugs?
Hi Tobes:
Still not ready to admit you're
a liar?
Simulacrum, I've never asked the proprietor of this site to reinstate my
commenting privileges.
WRONG!!!
LIAR!!!
Here's the quote -- and the link.
I sure wish Duncan Black would stop kicking me out of Eschaton. He knows how much
I enjoy going there to argue with his
regulars ---and a good argument is what that place needs. Without a little irritation,
how can you expect any pearls to throw
before the swine, Duncan? Come on! Get serious! That place is a circle-jerk.
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In nature, the bacteria are found in rodents and small animals, and "the working hypothesis" is that something in the environment got stirred up, D.C. Public Health Director Gregg A. Pane said.
But he said it was puzzling that the finding was from a day when the Mall was packed with people.
"Why that day? That's what is not explained," Pane said. "It was just this 24-hour period and none since."
Probably the darkies.
By the late 1960s, F tularensis was one of several biological weapons stockpiled by the US military.10 According to Alibeck, a large parallel effort by the Soviet Union continued into the early 1990s and resulted in weapons production of F tularensis strains engineered to be resistant to antibiotics and vaccines.
And the bastards at Ft. Dietrick were some of those who made it into a weapon.
Why are you guys talking to toby?
What ever is the fucking point?
Authorities recommend that people who visited the Mall between 10 a.m. Sept. 24 and 10 a.m. Sept. 25 should see a physician if they experience symptoms.
Sounds like the Moonbat Plague
Shit, if she were in the least bit qualified she wouldn't even have access to the Bushco inner circle. Pure window dressing, and even more of a tool than Powell. Even Rod Paige got out, and he's a dim fucker.
Mathew: Devon is supercute
Goodnight to you all
in a rose tinted leftist world, Rice sexuality would not even be mentioned. In the reality based world, the bitch need to be put down
Plum P | Email | 10.01.05 - 1:51 am | #
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no. it isn't even a good tactic. the right doesn't care about lesbians. they are offended by gay men.
Apparently Our Girl Condi is an aspiring concert pianist who has played with Yo-Yo Ma (musically, at least).
Bruce is correct.
And the "dual piano" is the correct term for a piece involving two pianos.
Here's another article that discusses Rice and music.
The bit about Rice singing "Amazing Grace" while Ashcroft played the piano when they were bunkered up after 9/11 is also in Richard Clarke's Against All Enemies.
Now that's the tableau that creeps me out!
I earned that one, Ripley. Keep your breeches on.
They're lederhosen, damn it!
Mein Hut der hat drei ecken!
especially after the shopping for shoes debacle while Hurricane Kristina was taking its toll. " -- Sandy-L.A., 90034
did I miss a hurricane?
"And after the shame and disgrace of what happened in NEw Orleans, she had the audacity to carry water for the adminstration, deny as preposterous that race and poverty had anything to do with the delay of aid, and further, the dauther of a minister, she stood up in church and told people that they if they just kept waiting, Jesus would come and help them.
This, after she had done her shoe shopping." -- lavalamp
And if this isn't enough (plus a plethora of other mendacities) to indict her in the court of public opinion, a little girl-on-girl action will?
And the bastards at Ft. Dietrick were some of those who made it into a weapon.
Unbelievable.
Anything to squash dissent, eh? word gets around that congregating on the Mall could be dangerous and people won't go there for a march anymore.
Ingenious. There isn't a place hot enough in hell for these bastards.
I don't care what he says, simels, you'll always be my special old queen. umm,
whatever that means...
Write that down on a napkin or something.
Ripley | Email | Homepage | 10.01.05 - 1:48 am | #
Thanks, kiddo!
did I miss a hurricane?
I dunno, but your new gravatar is cool.
"Nim, you know what happened after USC beat Alabama in 1970? Bear Bryant went and personally asked the governor to integrate his school so that they could get some of them talented negroes on their own team."
I guess I've had a few too many elitist wines to follow the point here....are you saying that the GOP bigotry is disposable, soon to be anachronistic? Maybe, but it is doesn't make it any less despicable now.
Under the current GOP platform, it's hypocritical for party to be keeping gay members and employees closeted while promoting them to the highest echelons. Some might say it's a crass ploy to get votes by deceiving the electorate and pandering to its basest hateful instincts.
"Now that's the tableau that creeps me out!" -- Uncle Smokes
That's almost enough to crowd Shatner singing Common People out of my brain.
Well, there's certainly plenty of time left for Bushco to surpass the Reagan reign's record of 138 indictments. they may reach that by Christmas. Genocide W Bush, America's shame.
So apparently the Government is now unleashing bioweapons close to the White House.
Riiiiight...
...and Karen Hughes is out there fixing it all.
Ronjazz, think about how scary that is; the very thought that a mindless party apparatchik like Hughes is actually being sent out to "fix" things The GOP is so much like the Soviet Politburo of old: everyone is an ignorant, corrupt party hack. Nothing matters except towing the Party line. This shit keeps up, the USA's will be bankrupt, and Osama's gonna be making video tapes taking credit for defeating capitalism.
fourlegs. It isn't even that tularemia is that hard to treat.
(A 14-day course of streptomycin is effective treatment)
It's the terror that it engenders in the public.
and the chicken flu
"After careful consideration, the council rejects your rejection. You may, however, hang one potted plant and an American flag from your balcony."
Dang =(
So I guess I can come clean I'm posting after a few fine elitist drinks.
Hello everyone...my "name," sort of, is "Nim." I'm an Atriot, and I post after drinking elitist wine =(
The first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem, right?
Maybe some Texans brought it up with them.
http://www.watchfarscape.com/for...hp/t-
17250.html
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"But does the black stiletto boot image go over well with repugs?
Sandy-L.A., 90034 | Email | 10.01.05 - 1:52 am | # "
And how. Usually they pay up to $300/hour for it.
So apparently the Government is now unleashing bioweapons close to the White House.
Riiiiight...
It was either that or balance the budget and work for world peace.
Crazy times... who wants a Halliburton Martini? I'm buyin'...
Yeah, well, if you can't get Rice on her supposedly hypocritical shilling for a gay-hating Republican admininstration, the whitest group of degenerate vegans and ponytails in all the blogosphere (i.e., y'all) can always say that she's a race traitor.
Ha, ha. You guys are fucking absurd.
Well, if little Georgie is going to let Osama run around free making videos, then I would guess that capitalism is dead, overtaken by corporatism combined with statism, known as fascism. Wolf Blitzer is the spokeperson for the fascist states of murka. Condi Rice is the progressive face of the repig party.
Tony, where's your cheetoh?
You can worry yourself sick by obsessing about things like tularemia, or anthrax. However. we are living in a cloud of passing micro-organisms, some pathogenetic, some not. Mostly we do not get sick with them.
Sorry, I meant Toby about the curiously absent cheetoh.
I see black gravitars. No white ones.
Condoleeza Rice> Tokyo Rose
the girl on girl action wasn't the point, Marcia. The [earlier] point was was about closeted gay politicians that make policy that harms gays.
However, we don't have any solid evidence Condi is gay. I was just offering the other parallel, of which we do have recent, ample, evidence.
"And how. Usually they pay up to $300/hour for it."
Nim,
Yeah, but after they've antied up the $300 they wouldn't be willing to cast a vote for President, would they?
Ha, ha. You guys are fucking absurd.
Toby Petzold | Email | Homepage | 10.01.05 - 2:01 am | #
What should you say about a closeted
gay working for a virulently anti-
gay administration?
Just hypothetically.....
BTW -- that's the Bush administration.
It might not be Condi.
PS: Try not to be a disingenuous
dickhead.
Is there a video clip of the Rice piano tickling interview?
It's the terror that it engenders in the public.
That's my point exactly. Release just enough to show up on the detectors and then leak word about it.
The whole point is to cause terror.
Yeah, well, if you can't get Rice on her supposedly hypocritical shilling for a gay-hating Republican admininstration, the whitest group of degenerate vegans and ponytails in all the blogosphere (i.e., y'all) can always say that she's a race traitor.
-toby petzold
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whatever. i personally have never said that she is anything other than an absurdly bad nsa and sec of state and a shameless liar. maybe she is gay too. if she is she is also a hypocrite, but hypocrisy is just a normal human characteristic.
Rupert Murdoch apparently has designs on buying Match.com.
Nim, you know what happened after USC beat Alabama in 1970? Bear Bryant went and personally asked the governor to integrate his school so that they could get some of them talented negroes on their own team.
I guess I've had a few too many elitist wines to follow the point here....are you saying that the GOP bigotry is disposable, soon to be anachronistic?
On the issue of gays? Yes. If you had told me in the late 1980s that ten years after, there would be no more Soviet Union, a reunified Germany, and Baltic members of NATO, I would have asked you if I could score a little bit of whatever you were on.
Maybe, but it is doesn't make it any less despicable now.
Deal with it. Nobody's guaranteed absolute acceptance in all things.
Hey Toby: Exactly *what* is so special about you?
Really.
Why should I give a fuck *what* you have to say about *anything*?
4Legs!!!
What's Maxx the Lion Kitty up to?
Mostly we do not get sick with them.
I wonder if the overuse of antibiotics and "anti-bacterial" products have rendered at least one generation susceptible to the mildest of infections.
I think of George Carlin's bit:
"The Hudson River was loaded with raw sewage. That's right, we swam in raw sewage. You know, to cool off. And back then the big fear was polio. Thousands of kids every year were dying of polio. But you know what, in my neighborhood, nobody ever got polio. No one. Ever. You know why? BECAUSE WE SWAM IN RAW SEWAGE. It strengthened our immune system. The polio never had a chance. We were tempered in raw shit."
Toby Shithole thinks he's on Squeaky Johnson's site.
" Yeah, well, if you can't get Rice on her supposedly hypocritical shilling for a gay-hating Republican admininstration, the whitest group of degenerate vegans and ponytails in all the blogosphere (i.e., y'all) can always say that she's a race traitor."
Strawmen, ad hominems, and stereotypes....
ya know, I realize it's frustrating arguing with 20 different people at once, but you can still do better than this.
My problem with condi isn't that she's gay or anything else.
It's that she's fucking incompetent and WRONG about everything.
She should have stuck to playing the piano and ice skating. She was a lousy scholar and she's a crappy diplomat. And she sucked ass as a national security advisory.
just because you don't like her political views.
This is a rhetorical move that I'm really tired of. They say "you just don't like our politics," as if we were just being intolerant of their belief system, oh poor downtrodden Republicans. This is horseshit. Politics is things we disagree about, hopefully compromise on, work something out. Something for everybody, everything for nobody. That's the process of politics. Invading another country based on a steaming pile of lies, killing tens or hundreds of thousands of people, and then instituting a policy that encourages, defends, and leads directly to systematic torture isn't politics, it's war crime. Ms. Rice was complicit in that crime. None of that has anything to do with her private life. (And if anyone makes some stupid Bosnia-what-about-the-clenis reference, they deserve to be whacked in the face with a frozen mole.)
Out of control brush fire in Burbank.
4Legs,
Sallyh just asked about Max the Lion Kitty -- is that the gorgeous cat with weirdly green eyes?
Do women take it personally when a man can't get it up?
What's Maxx the Lion Kitty up to?
At this very instant he is sitting in my lap purring.
Something he excells at.
" the girl on girl action wasn't the point, Marcia. The [earlier] point was was about closeted gay politicians that make policy that harms gays." -- lavalamp
I understand the hypocracy angle, I'm just saying I don't think it would do us much good to out her. I don't think the damage to the administration would be that high in their base, and I think that the people who care if a lesbian is in a position of power will not care about the fine point of her being a hypocrite, they will just care that she's gay.
Like with Clinton, supposedly it wasn't about the sex, it was about the lying. But the play it got on TV was all about the sex.
Sallyh,
Is that Burbank fire near you?
Sallyh just asked about Max the Lion Kitty -- is that the gorgeous cat with weirdly green eyes?
It's this kitty:
http://img.photobucket.com/album...ris/
plushy2.jpg
Those gravatars of the AC/DC Back in black album covers are awesome.
Hey fellow bats what's up? What's going on tonight?
Out of control brush fire in Burbank.
Good, the rich can always use a lesson in bad fortune.
Anyone know where to find a clip of Condi playing the piano? I'd like to make a critical evaluation of her playing skills to see if she's mastered one thing in her life.
Here he is again:
http://img.photobucket.com/album...sofparis/
mr.jpg
Hey Toby:
Why did you drop arguing about
your lies vs a vs petitioning
Atrios in favor of this
racist crap?
4Legs,
That's some kind of cat! Looks pretty big -- a purring cat on the lap ready to rock the sofa with its vibrations?
your new gravatar is cool.
the black cube?
very rudy gernreich, dont you think?
I know emtpying the cache is supposed to clear the whole gravatar problem up, and it did on my other machine with Safari, but it doesn't seem to work reliably on Firefox. I'm still seeing mostly squares.
"Nim,
Yeah, but after they've antied up the $300 they wouldn't be willing to cast a vote for President, would they?
Sandy-L.A., 90034 | Email | 10.01.05 - 2:04 am | # "
Haha, of course not. Their vote costs a lot more than their avowed "morals."
fourlegs. I can almost hear him purring.
My big dog has taken to doing the dog form of that now. When happy, he rumbles continously.
4Legs,
Second photo -- that's more like what I remembered -- he looks like he's a little cranky with the world. He looks like a lovely chunky hunk.
"I'm still seeing mostly squares." --
lavalamp
They're having some sort of trouble with the site. Silleigh posted a link earlier.
That's some kind of cat! Looks pretty big -- a purring cat on the lap ready to rock the sofa with its vibrations?
He's getting pretty large. He actually has woken me up in bed with his purring. From the end of the bed.
Here he is again
"This enormous cat will destroy us all!"
Leaps out window...
[/Simpson]
Anyone know where to find a clip of Condi playing the piano? I'd like to make a critical evaluation of her playing skills to see if she's mastered one thing in her life.
doug | Email | Homepage | 10.01.05 - 2:11 am | #
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condi is a very good pianist. not concert quality, but an extremely accomplished amateur, from what i hear.
she was an extraordinarily bad national security advisor (9/11). and is an embarassment as sec of state.
You know, this gravatar thing is annoying me.
I could see my gravatar, and most others. So I cleared my cache and now I can't see mine.
What the fuck?
Out of control brush fire in Burbank.
Sallyh | Email | Homepage | 10.01.05 - 2:08 am | #
And you are......okay?
Sandy--closer than the last one, but still not problematic.
fred
No. I figured Toby had bad circulation.
Out of control brush fire in Burbank.
Isn't that a B-52s song?
Where's the geek contingent? (Robotroll doesn't count)- I've got a TV dilemma between SCTV on TvLand and an Ensign Ro episode of STNG on Spike. Funny vs. futuristic woman in tight uniform with hot nasal ridges. What to do, what to do.
Perhaps I've said too much.
Okay, now it's back.
I don't get it. So I'm going to bed, since lion kitty finally got too warm and jumped off my lap.
In the spirit of full disclosure, I should let you guys know that I did go to Band Camp. twice...
But let's get back on topic here, people!
Naw, there are some serious glitches with either halloscam or gravatar.
I just loaded this page with a browser that has the cache turned off, and only some of the gravatars displayed.
4Legs,
I had two Siamese cats for about 17 years. I envy you -- I had asthma for years (my doc didn't believe in allergists)and only found out after they died, that I was very allergic to cats. But even so, I loved them -- especially having them cuddled close on the bed.
So no more cats for me, but recently I've discovered cat blogging and that seems to satisfy my need a little. Your cat makes me laugh out loud. A real beauty!
okay, got it Marcia.
yeah, something tells me the base doesn't really give a crucified rat's ass about hypocrisy in and of itself. For if they did, well, this adminstration- led by the lying evil scumbag Connecticut born faux cowboy living in a fake ranch- would be in quite a pickle.
i would go with sctv, jeffco.
Ripley--'and one time, when we were at band camp...'
I think this whole thread started with whether Rice is or is not a lesbian, based on that stupid FOX thing, right?
So...call me crazy, but can we not be obsessed with (in my view) irrelevant speculation about her, and get back to Iraq?
lavalamp, now I can see your gravatar again.
It has three lavalamps. I might just have to get a lava lamp for my desk.
Sallyh
are the fires burning through any houses yet?
And on that note....to bed!
See you all on the morrow!
there are a bunch of stray cats in my neighborhood. i would adopt one, but they all hate me. they appear to be thriving anyway.
I've discovered cat blogging and that seems to satisfy my need a little. Your cat makes me laugh out loud.
I'm glad you enjoy him.
I'd say fuck the doctors and get you some kitties.
Steve--so far, just fine. It's in the Verdugo Hills.
Sallyh,
Hope and pray your area is safe and sound!
Good night everyone.
doug--no, but the danger is that it exploded out of control after being mostly contained.
Sallyh,
Make sure all burnable stuff outside is removed from your property, and keep the vegetation well watered.
Sallyh,
I know! Believe me, since I've been clicking on all these sweet cats (I started with Atrios' Wiley and Gizmo, then went on to NTodd's Sam, etc.) I've been considering allergy shots!
she was an extraordinarily bad national security advisor (9/11). and is an embarassment as sec of state.
She probably would have done okay in 1955, since her thinking about national security strategy is geared toward Cold War tactics.
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chickenhawks sure did miss their old red nemesis
you can't teach cold warriors new tactics
once upon a time they could do any crime
just say "communist" we got in line
the cold war is over what have we won
the killers we trained turned around their guns
you know that wingnuts called it the third world war
they should wear foil so we know who they are
" In the spirit of full disclosure, I should let you guys know that I did go to Band Camp. twice..." -- Ripley
Okay. And I once kissed a girl in a school play.
Okay, it wasn't a play.
And technically, it was outside the school. 
I went to band camp many times. But sadly, it was long ago, possibly before Alyson Hannigan was even born, much less made that line famous....
JeffCO--I'd go with SCTV, but I never had the Ensign Ro thing going on.
To complicate matters, Monsieur says, Ensign Ro! You need to ask?
Sorry -- Sallyh -- meant 4Legs!
Blair on CSPAN and he looks a bit unhinged. To animated.
"I'd say fuck the doctors and get you some kitties." -- fourlegsgood
I hear if you bathe them once a month, then no allergies.
Great line from AmericaBlog:
"Hell even when I was in vegas I always bet on BLACK......."
B. Bennettt
simeon wolf | 09.30.05 - 5:25 pm | #
Yes, yes, I'm a whore.. but if you haven't heard any of my podcasts, here's a good starter.
Karl Rove's Livin la vida Lockup
Or whatever... I'm cool...
bathe them once a month, then no allergies.
No you get 40 stiches every bath.
doug--lawn is watered. Tomorrow is supposed to be hazardous waste pickup--I'm not sure how that's going to proceed.
Sorry to Burst the Bubble...
Empty Bubble
You may have heard buzz about a documentary called Inside the Bubble, which, according to the films press release, reveals the Democrats worst fears about the Kerry Campaign a disorganized, contensious [sic], self-aborbed [sic] team that thought that they could win by not making mistakes and keeping their candidate in the public eye without every clarifiying [sic] a position on anything.
Other than needing a better spell-check device, the writer of this release needs a serious clue. Ive seen the film, which is yet to find a distributor, and its hardly what the release purports it to be.
http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.c...aily.com/?
p=737
"No you get 40 stiches every bath."
-- doug
Hey, life's a series of little trade-offs...
but they all hate me.
They're just playing hard to get [/petzold]
"I'd say fuck the doctors and get you some kitties." -- fourlegsgood
I hear if you bathe them once a month, then no allergies.
Marcia Brady,SaneByComparison | Email | Homepage | 10.01.05 - 2:23 am | #
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no. just get a dog. if you are allergic to dogs too, get one that doesn't shed. many breeds don't and people who are allergic to dog hair can live with them without any problems.
Another trick for fire season, (one thing that California shares with Montana.) that some Montanians have done when the fires get too close.
Mount some rainbird sprinklers at the peak of your roof, and also in the yard to be able to hit the sides of your house. Normally this is not a good idea, it will make you have to paint your house more often. But if there is a fire storm, it might save your house from burning.
Sallyh, if I lived there, I don't think I could sleep. I'd be nuts.
I played "Seven in Heaven," a spin-the-bottle type game, at Baptist Bible camp.
Unfortunately, being good repressed Christians kids, we merely went into the next room and made kissy sounds.
"Unfortunately, being good repressed Christians kids, we merely went into the next room and made kissy sounds."
-- Uncle Smokes
That's so sad.
Oh, apropos of earlier trolling, here's a bit I just went over with my students from the official APA style guide on reducing biased language in scientific writing:
Problems of Evaluation
Problems of implicit or explicit evaluation of racial/ethnic difference arise from a number of sources. Bias may occur when the writer uses one group (usually the writer's own group) as the standard against which others are evaluated. The term culturally deprived, for example, implies that one culture is the accepted standard against which others are judged. Authors should recognize that differences arising from racial/ethnic comparisons do not imply deficits.
More subtle forms of implicit group comparisons may occur by the use of adjectives (i.e., stereotypes) to apply to most or all members of a group. Stereotypes may be positive (e.g., intelligent, industrious, superior, attractive) or negative (e.g., sinister, violent, lazy, superstitious). Qualifying adjectives, even when positive, may communicate bias (whether intentional or unintentional). For example, the phrase "the intelligent Black student" may imply that this student is an "exception to the rule."
I got an unexpected raise at work today. Haven't had one since the terrorist attacks on 911.
This interview is bizarre on so many levels. Forget about the question of lesbianism for the moment. Just look at the plain old fashioned sexism in it. Imagine how it would sound if this interview were conducted with a male secretary of State, say Colin Powell.
My predictions for October:
Red Sox and Braves in the World Series
Neocons have a VERY bad month
and my ex-girlfriend realizes what a cheating, worthless shmuck she is and go's for a long drive off a short pier(my fingers crossed on this one)
"Unfortunately, being good repressed Christians kids, we merely went into the next room and made kissy sounds."
-- Uncle Smokes
That's so sad.
Marcia Brady
Come to think of it, that's also the time I went over big at the camp's talent show playing "Somewhere My Love" on the piano.
The Baptists obviously failed to indoctrinate me properly from queerosity.
If only that girl had kissed me, and a counselor kept me from playing the piano, I might have become Chief Justice of the Supreme Court!
I've need a pay increase since the price of energy has been going up. It's been murder payiing it, murder I say.
I got an unexpected raise at work today. Haven't had one since the terrorist attacks on 911.
ΤΏΤ
Congrats on the raise. At my company we're training Indians to take our jobs. Our company can get five Indian workers for the price they pay for one US worker. Everything is going over to India. In the next 5 years if there is a call center in the United States I'll be very surprised.
Damn...
That there is one hellava inside joke. Condi and the mysterious pianist know each other... Rosen is the mutual friend...
scandalous...
This exchange is priceless.
-mf
I feel like warmed over uglies tonight, though.
Is this what they are calling circumcision these days?
Sorry to [hear] that UF.
Is there any way to read Krugman and Rich online without having to pay?
Imagine how it would sound if this interview were conducted with a male secretary of State, say Colin Powell.
MR. ROSEN: I close with a gift for you. You met this person once, I believe. His name is James Brown. He is brilliant, he's beautiful, he's African American, he's single and he's the Godfather of Soul.
POWELL: My goodness.
MR. ROSEN: And he asked me to give you his CD and I promised him that I would.
POWELL: That's perfect.
MR. ROSEN: And here's him doing a number of different classical pieces.
POWELL: You've got to kidding...
Deal with it. Nobody's guaranteed absolute acceptance in all things.
Toby Petzold
I bet you say that to all the Bush boys.
Imagine how it would sound if this interview were conducted with a male secretary of State, say Colin Powell.
So, General Powell, have I got the guy for you! He was a very senior VP at Enron who stood by and watched as they destroyed their company and screwed their stockholders. Why, on occasion he even went on TV and flat-out lied to the world for them! He made me promise to give you this little vial of talc - doesn't it look just like anthrax? By the way, he has a son who's a rat bastard too! You two should really get together.
Sorry to [hear] that UF.
ΤΏΤ
It's not my job that going, well not yet, but it feels very weird training people who you know are going to take others jobs.
What I was looking for. A fire retardent gell to spray on house that are in the immediate path of a firestorm, that can't be protected in other ways.
http://www.precision.rotor.com/t...alpgs/
gel.shtml
lavalamp--every area has its potential disasters. We just pretend they don't exist--not because we think it will make them go away, but speaking for myself, I can't live in a state of hyperalertness all the time.
sometimes denial is a protective mechanism.
On the other hand, we do have plans for what to do if something happened and we become separated.
First order of business: get the animals in the car.
Night dear bats
because Republicans aren't rounding up and gassing gays.
Old Man:
But many in their base would like to.
But the fact is that they ARE NOT ROUNDING UP AND GASSING GAYS.
But they like to stone 'em to death in Saudi Arabia. Maybe y'all would prefer Muslim views of gay rights, hmm?
Toby Petzold
Can anyone really be as stupid as this sounds?
because Republicans aren't rounding up and gassing gays.
Old Man:
But many in their base would like to.
But the fact is that they ARE NOT ROUNDING UP AND GASSING GAYS.
But they like to stone 'em to death in Saudi Arabia. Maybe y'all would prefer Muslim views of gay rights, hmm?
Toby Petzold
Can anyone really be as stupid as this sounds?
Yes.
BS detector, you wouldn't believe how many times I've heard that. It's like, quit your bitching, you could be in Saudi Arabia.
HUD chief foresees a 'whiter' Big Easy
By Brian DeBose
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
September 30, 2005
A Bush Cabinet officer predicted this week that New Orleans likely will never again be a majority black city, and several black officials are outraged.
Alphonso R. Jackson, secretary of housing and urban development, during a visit with hurricane victims in Houston, said New Orleans would not reach its pre-Katrina population of "500,000 people for a long time," and "it's not going to be as black as it was for a long time, if ever again."
http://www.washingtontimes.com/n...14710-
8545r.htm
Toby is just an insignificant eater. There's absolutely nothing worthwhile or interesting about him.
HUD chief foresees a 'whiter' Big Easy
...and Ashcroft and Rice break into "Happy Days Are Here Again" on dual piano.
That's good news Incognito. It probably means a lot to a gay man who was systematically shut out of educational opportunities, job opportunities and equal pay with heteros. It's real tough being gay in America.
I got an unexpected raise at work today. Haven't had one since the terrorist attacks on 911.
ΤΏΤ
Congrads.
So, now String dines on caviar each day?
ordinarily, i am a live and let live kind of guy.
chacun a son gout.
until i reflect upon the contemporary republican/democrat parties.
what a bunch of hypocrites.
and for that reason, i advocate "outing" all the homosexuals in those parties.
take off the gloves. a scorched earth program[or is that pogrom] is the only avenue for defeating the fascist bastids.
and don't you forget it.
the republicans[and the democrat fascist lites] will have no hesitation to send you to the camps. you can be meek and be murdered wihout a whimper.
or you can stand up and fight back.
i have said this many times, but i shall say it again.....these ruling reps and dems are nazis. they have no hesitation in murdering you and your families.
and today, it isn't a anti-jewish fetish. it is an anti-poverty fetish.
since there is no god, no one will help you escape the rep/dem jackboots.
germany revitalized in amerika. we be killing you soon. are you happy about your future?
i thought so.
So, now String dines on caviar each day?
Elitest cats!
You've got a real pretty face.
*geesh* Toby is back but he's still stupid, ugly and nobody likes him.
And for the record, Toby... NOBODY in the blogosphere thinks your comments add a cent or any sense to the conversation here.
If anybody did, then you would have a successful blog of your own. Instead yours can't even touch my third-tier blog, because your addition to the conversation is NADA!
And the fact that you lie incessantly and inanely throw around adjectives that you can't support explains why your blog and your life is A FAILURE to the point that the highlight of your life is being a troll. *pathetic*
I wish someone would try to fix me up.
String is just a regular kinda cat. She doesn't go for all the high falutin cuisine.
African watering hole webcam
http://www9.nationalgeographic.c...ca/
wildcam.html
Dual piano, is that what the kids are calling it these days? Well, maybe afterwards they could give Ann Coulter a rusty trombone.
That's pretty cool, doug. There are some zebras at it right now and I hear birds in the background. String is tripping out here with the bird sounds from my computer.
Doug,
That is really disturbing news on New Orleans. But it's not surprising that there are Busheviks who are looking to ca-ching on Reconstruction and hoping that their efforts can also effect a political change a la DeLay's redistricting.
For anyone who's had doubts about santa claus being a nice elf. Look at this gif animation.
http://www.hauntedmemories.com/s....com/
sc_gif.gif
Tom - Daai Tou Laam
The amazing part is that the Bush HUD secretary let us see the real face behind his mask.
OH MY GAWD, A LION JUST LEAPED ON THE BACK OF ONE OF THOSE ZEBRAS!!
>Speaking of 'Deliverance', anyone remember a band called the Connells?
I remember the Connells but I think the Connells I owned was a bootleg tape, perhaps of their first lp. They were okay, kind of Smiths does Chapel Hill with guest stints and samples in and from REM, dbs, Jason and the Scorchers, Magnetic Fields, and Oh Okay.
Just saying.
I don't care if Rice is gay or not. She _seems_ like one of the less destructive Team Bush members but it's so fucking hard to tell. Even if she's _trying_ to be a good SoS, her behavoir is criminal. And there are highlights of her career that she doesn't brag about--kind of a reverse Brownie resume--the oil tanker named after her, her corporate board memberships, and the terms of her employment, for example.
NOTES ON JASS.......
imagine my surprise to notice that during my escape from metro-houston, my sojourn in LA, jim hall was going to be doing a gig at the jazz bakery.
i couldn't find anyone to join me to listen to one of the maestro's of jass guitar, so i did it solo.
it had been a long time since i had done the bakery.
let me tell you, it is a sweet venue.
what i have always liked about it is that it is a small concert hall. up close and personal. no clinking drinks. no loud conversation.
a shrine to the performers and their music.
what i particularly enjoy is how one can hear and see how the music is assembled.
i have some favorite moments at this venue...
the best was bill evans, reunited with chuck israels and larry bunker. what a great performance. my girl friend at the time knew nothing about this thing called jass. that performance blew her away. hell, it blew me away.
we caught kenny rankin some years back. another platinum performance.
and then there were my favorite memories...taking my mom and the rest of my family to experience blossom dearie and annie ross.
if you live in LA. if you travel to LA. if you have any affection for america's chamber music, if you just have an interest in how music gets made and are visiting LA, put the jazz bakery on your itinerary.
‘Despida el Chimperador y todos los culos!
so.
I tried to hit on a guy this evening but it didn't work out. Might know more tomorrow, though. He seemed really interested a few days ago but for some reason, he didn't call back tonight. So I don't know what the deal is....
I'm a trained pianist but nobody's trying to set me up. Rice's piano skills suck. Women just don't have the smooth effortless style on the piano gay men have.
He's a doll, too, so I'll try again--maybe tomorrow.
Look, the true test if you think it is irrelevant is not to mention it. The left blogosphere has got to stop this juvenile bullsh*t tactic of making a big deal out of the sexual orientation of people it doesn't like--like DD or JG--then passing it off as just an interesting sidelight. And bad as that is for folks who are out or nearly out, it is even worse when it comes to rumors of this sort.
I can hear the Barney Frank argument, complete with the Kapo analogy, being offered up to justify this. So this is how you're going to fight for gay rights--by using the stigma attached to being gay or lesbian in the minds of most of the public to humiliate your opponents? Who's the homophobe?
And please don't tell me that the impeachment makes everyone's private life fair game. If that's your excuse then why not go all the way and start spreading lies that Rick Santorum adopted a black child?--after all the Rove forces did that to McCain in SC in 2000. Anyone willing to set any limits here?
And pardon me for seeming prudish, but when did people who consider themselves left start referring to Rice as a c*nt? Why stop there?
This thread makes an average Fark board look thoughtful. I've never read LGF, but it sure looks like some of the excerpts I've seen.
Frankly, I don't know what the problem is. I'm good-looking, intelligent, a pianist and a great cook with a great cat.
I'm also informed and up to date on current issues.
But I've been told I have an arrogant aloof air about me.
It may be true that I'm an overly proud and haughty man.
Strong statement from one who appears to be revealing an email address, but has an email address pointing to a mail server domain, that netcraft knows nothing about. Kind of strange to be doing that.
Nope ssdslaw.com does not exist.
Look, the true test if you think...
It's true that you're a complete dingus....so you've got that goin for ya'..which is...nice.
Late at night, long week. Got a grant in today, though, which counts for something, within minutes of FedEx cut-off time, up where I work.
Grants are like beating your head against a wall, it fells so good when you stop (having to work on them)!!
Now, no BIG fed deadlines til Feb 1.
Ahhhhhh.................takes another drink of elitist chardonnay. (Actually, sauvignon blanc)
Am doing NOTHING tomorrow except dtr-in-law birthday dinner at 5.
Will feed birds and squirrels, have a little Hair of the Dog (I am richly earning that this evening!) - otherwise, nothing, nothng, nothing, and happier for it,
Grant writer? Whew, you've got my sympathies.
SD, glad to [hear] it. I had an increase in fortunes today, too.
The left blogosphere has got to stop this ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz...
Oh sorry, what were you saying about exposing hypocrisy of murderous failures like the incompetent Ms. Rice?
Ya mean that doesn't come with exposed boobies and cheap thrills like Fark or the racist rants of the Little Green Raelians? So sorry we aren't as entertaining.
ya know the way back to life beneath the bridge, young troll.
This thread makes an average Fark board look thoughtful. I've never read LGF, but it sure looks like some of the excerpts I've seen.
Henry |
Y'know, Henry, I don'tknow you from a jar of Vicks, nor you me.
But as a little old geriatric, I can tell you that I have seen a WHOLE lot of vitriol slung from the Right toward the Left, and I, for one, am ready to fight back.
And, actually, Condolizzard IS a cunt AND a House Nigger.
Might as well call it as it is.
The time for politeness is long, long past.
How come you never have a concern troll at LGF about their racism and homophobia? It really gets old.
Doug, I know, I'm insane. I actually like it, I confess, I am a deadline-driven sort of person, so that works out nicely, eh?
Incog, what is your good fortune of the day??
SD
I think it makes some of the left angrier at closeted gays who actively work to support the GOP when the left takes so many punches for their support of gay rights after the GOP's efforts at whipping up bigotry against them. I don't blame them for being angry.
Henry as I was pointing out quietly before, is fucking coward, posting with his bogus email address.
SD, I got an unexpected raise out of the blue. I've been doing a great job but didn't expect this.
Goof Lord.
Fuck these people.
For the thousandth time: fuck these people.
The steadman band, who used to be signed with the now defunct label Electra, just put their who portfolio up for downloading.
http://www.steadmanband.com/main.html
okay, you guys have gone to bed, probably. I'm going to stagger around the house and annoy the sleeping cats for a bit, pour one more glass of wine and go onto the front porch and suck nicotine into my poor, ruined lungs.
Then I'm gonna come back here, then prolly go to bed. I need to build up my sleep bank account!
I just finished an amazing DVD of Roscoe Holcomb on Peter Seeger's old TV show "Rainbow Crest."
Holy crap.
A certain species of white people has gone extinct.
Then I'm gonna come back here, then prolly go to bed. I need to build up my sleep bank account!
Sarah Deere
Premature withdrawals from the sleep bank account will lead to heavy penalties.
A certain species of white people has gone extinct.
Stunt Woman
Say what?
Incog, good on you!!! In this fucking economy, such things are rare and precious. I have no doubt you deserve it, so...hug it close, and take it as your rightful due.
Congrats!!
A black man would have never seen that raise. Gays need to step off the political stage so the poor and blacks can re-enter. I hate these fucking cultural issues with a vengeance. I want government programs that take direct action and are class based.
The cultural issues are what destroyed the Democratic Party.
Either drop the identity politics or you will never see another New Deal again.
Tom DTL, don't I know it!!
Yet tomorrow, I will sit on the front porch at some point, bag o' peanuts in hand, feed birds and squirrels, after a good night's rest, and feel ... well, just goddamned grand. I have pushed myself to the limit, finally (and again) today.
Tonight, ultimately, I will sleep, once the adrenalin rush is through with me, and I will - I hope!! - pay the fewest and the lightest of penalties. Goddess willing and the creek don't rise.
Nah, I like being on-stage, drama queen that I am.
Nah, nah, nah-nah, nah.
Shake shake shake, shake shake shake, shake your boody, shake your boody...
Goof Lord.
Stunt Woman
10.01.05 - 4:22 am | #
SW, I have to say that I agree w/this.
SD
jon...go away.......
We.are.family. I got all my sistahs with me.
The cultural issues are what are destroying the Republican Party...
Culture of Corruption.
Old Man:
Gwen Ifill/PBS
On a very similar line of thought...Several people mentioned, in recent conversations, a Diane Sawyer/ABC tour of George Clooney's Italian villa this past week. I didn't see the broadcast but diverse people seperately mentioned curious elements in it.
In the interview, Clooney said "he would never have a child from his loins" and other star fluff such as the typical fan mag question involving preference for female blonds, brunettes or redheads.
While these questions might be iffy, everyone wondered why ABC chose a particular Edward R. Morrow Person to Person interview for the Clooney interview. Clooney was hyping his latest movie about Murrow but ABC only used portions of a Person to Person interview with Liberace. They even asked Clooney the very questions Murrow was posing to the sparkling "Lee". Was Diane just being mean or was she being some strange morning TV version of subtle.
Clooney is wonderful and even if he lusted after fish as did Troy McClure on The Simpson's it wouldn't affect me opinion of him.
Should my already low opinion of Nixon's favorite intern be lower???
My Goodness...
http://www.bright.net/~spike3/fox6.htm
And a former 3rd runner-up for Miss America. If I were Condi I'd be making the call.
Dual pianos indeed.
Oh, I don't know. This might've been a deal done by Fox to show their viewers the human side of individuals. I think it was harmless banter. Not something that men -- particularly straight -- would do, but women are a different breed.
The upshot is that I wouldn't read too much into this little episode. I'll admit that rumors have been flying around DC for some time. If she's a lesbian, then she's mighty quiet about it, because she sure as shit doesn't show up at lesbo bars.
The big problem with this town is that everyone automatically assume shit without any proof. Can't a straight person be single and unattached?
Normally Fox news reporters lie about everything, but in this case I can attest that Ms. Green is very beautiful indeed.
It is a very strange thing to say on the air, though.
Maybe they could grab a quick snatch, er, snack?
My Goodness...
http://www.bright.net/~spike3/fox6.htm
And a former 3rd runner-up for Miss America. If I were Condi I'd be making the call.
Dual pianos indeed.
Fleur de merde
A FOX double token.
Either drop the identity politics or you will never see another New Deal again.
jon
Who are YOU ordering around?
Who is this "jon" and why is he such a total asswipe?
People? The exchange with Rice was vacuous, trivial and innocuous. Come on - there's a whole lot going on, including, - oh, I don't know, - the world blowing up and stuff, without spending time thigh-rubbing over Fox's latest idiotic bid at sucking up.
Atrios, Atrios, Atrios.
Condi is a Big Ol' Dyke and everybody knows it. Her affair with Gwen Ifill
is an open secret (semi-inadvertent plug) in the Beltway and the rest of the fourth estate. And considering the fact that BushCo. has declared open war on glbt Americans it's PERFECTLY VALID TO BRING IT UP !!!!!
Because it was the least embarrassing question he could ask the Secy of State --anything about actual policy would have been far more ridiculous
And for the record the Fox on air staff pimps each other's stuff all the time although this "sistah" moment does seem to cross some line
Rosen is a twit anyway and in his real life wants to be a standup comice
"(if she is a lesbian, and I have no reason to believe she is, there is an issue regarding contradictions with how the media treats the private lives of public figures, but that's really a separate issue and not about her per se)."
Pure class from Atrios. You do the Democratic party proud.
Thanks for 2004.
Pure class from Atrios. You do the Democratic party proud.
Thanks for 2004.
Cog
Yes, thank you. Now FOAD!
Why not a concerto in C Spot Major
Or maybe in Labia minor?
I don't know why he would've phrased it that way, either, because um, I know Lauren Green, and she's not gay. She's also too talented to be cheapened on tv that way.
Match maker, match maker
make me a match
PERFECTLY VALID TO BRING IT UP !!!!!
Fiddle playing I've heard of. Dual piano, this is the first time. And what's with the shoe fetish?
Personally I think she might hook up with Bill Bennett, dressed in her boots, kicking his fat lilly white ass. A picture too wonderfull or terrible in equal measure to comtemplate, almost.
Cog-
Why thank us for 2004 when you deserve all the credit? We didn't vote for the dumbass. Thanks to you, the country is fucked. Don't pin that shit on us, it's your doing, fuck-nut.
Well, if it were a choice between her and Lorne Green - who would you pick?
Toby: the whitest group of degenerate vegans and ponytails in all the blogosphere (i.e., y'all) can always say that she's a race traitor.
I don't know what kind of Black friends you hang out with, but I hang out with playahs, most of them 20-25 years younger than I am. A few weeks ago I was the only white person out of 50-60 people invited to a birthday party. One white guy there. Me.
Condi's name didn't come up.
I don't see what the problem is.
Dems outing gay Republicans is hardly
unfortunate, intolerant, or disagreeable.
It was said upthread that the justification amounts to a "They did it first!" defense. Not so. This is not tit-for-tat.
Republicans merely expanded the acceptable bounds of public discourse. If you wanna curl up in the fetal position and let Karl Rove go a-gay-bashin' every four years, be my guest. But don't pretend to be my victim. And don't expect the rest of the country to be your co-(bashed)victim, either.
The point is, you're expecting the rest of the country to absorb the political damages from not responding in kind. And I don't mean "everyone's fair game" as if this were a hunting party.
Rather, this is a "what's saucy for the goose, is saucy for the gander" situation.
Republicans have no compunction about tarring Dems with every lie in sight, and to self-limit your tactics -- even by merely and neutrally levelling the playing field -- is to choose defeat, victimhood, and disempowerment.
Plus -- politically, it's win-win for Dems. If there's no shame in being gay, then Dems should celebrate each newly-gay public persona -- and will gain politically from those 'out-comes.'
If Repubs are really bigoted, then the homophobe base will peel away or fragment. It also exposes the lie of the party of moral values meme -- critical work!
But mostly, after the Repugs damaged this country by dragging us through 8 years of gossip, 'horror,' and personal attacks about the Clinton's personal life, then the least our gay and/or easily-outraged ideologically-ossified Dem compatriots could do is shut up and fight back.
Rather than stupidly clinging to a misperceived standard of purity. The Repubs won't stop gay- and Dem-bashing just because liberals are bleating about some tepidly-held principles that no one cares about, that do not make a political difference, and that they didn't bother to defend during the previous Administration's trials/travails.
So level the playing field by simply making as many truths public as possible, let the facts fall where they may, and be proud of it.
It's called WINNING.
As long as your average contemptible Beltway Insider continues smugly pretending they're one up on the rest of us, anything's fair, and just.
Buncha nambys-pambys.
How disappointing; a woman in power who is unmarried isn't called down for her politics, but for her supposedly fair game for comment sexuality. So when the right calls Hillary a lesbian, do you guys get upset or do you join in?
Condi is a liar and will sell her soul for power. People in Iraq are dying everyday in great numbers and she helps keep that going. That is the point.
Clean up this crap so I can keep reading here without being embarrassed. Please.
Condoleeza Rice has indeed been called on her politics. She has also been called on the integrity she possesses none of, and which she will not have impugned.
More to the point, Rice has done zero to clean Republican house, or hold them accountable for a) lies or b) attacks on the personal lives of Dems.
Kitty, it's Orwellian you would accuse Dems of hypocrisy. You forget the Repubs lied about Hillary, (and as far as I know, and not that I care) the Dems have been outing folks truthfully. Just for once I'd like the goody-two-shoes, "responsible," "high-road" Dems to choose unity and victory instead of losing and selfish special-interest concerns.
Face it: the Repubs widened the scope of acceptable coarse discourse. The Dems supinely let them. Exposing the truth is not the same as a personal attack; it merely levels the playing field and uses the same tools instead of unilaterally disarming for the sake of false principles.
What's saucy for the goose, is saucy for the gander.
This is hardly a feminist issue. If anything, Dems would out Rice and promptly celebrate her sexual orientation -- not attack it.
That she has no integrity, and will not have that lack impugned -- that they will and should attack. That, and her hypocrisy, is what they do attack. Not the fact that she's a single woman; even her orientation is really irrelevant here.
Gives all new meaning to tickling the ivories.
And did Rice actually say, "Well, that's special"?? Oh, that's just perfect. Ha!
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