I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Ah, Saturday morning. Yea.
third?
Morning Mer. And isn't it a lovely Morning?
Fourth, and it's good to be alive.
See, posting fiction is the threadkiller.
Oh well, back to work.
Morning, freethinkers
Via Americablog, Salon is asking if Gannon's involved in the Plame investigation. Happy Saturday, eh?
Saturday's are nice even if I have to get some work done. Phone doesn't ring, no meetings to attend. I think I'm becoming a hermit.
Rain all weekend here in the northeast, Red Sox back to form. Summer's over now...
I was thinking of Gannon yesterday, and when he's going to be swept up in this sea of investigations. He'll probably like prison.
DWD - Frankly, I'm not so sure that that is fiction.
GWPDA, congrats on your job!
I checked his site - he hasn't updated since 10/5. I wonder if he's been busy with something...probably a big, breaking news story or some such thing...
Well, looking on the bright side of this Pakistan earthquake, I think it is possible that it might have succeeded where Bush has failed. If he was living underground, perhaps Osama has gone to Allah.
We can only hope.
You see? Bush didn't go after Osama because God told him it was all taken care of...
ql - 'Enkew. It's going to be interesting to discover if I can do it any more. On the other hand, I've already made arrangements to get the boys back over here to put up the ramada on the west side of the house and begin the various other modifications I couldn't quite pay for.... So, I guess I gotta do it!
A good morning smiling baby!
Happy Saturday, all. I know, I've mentioned this pic on earlier threads, but I'm still in full doting uncle mode, so sue me.
GWPDA--I second ql's congrats!
You deserve all the good things that come your way...
New job, GW? Congrats!
rorscharh, that is one happy looking baby. Cute too.
hmmm... looking at the saturday news it seems that Rove is claiming his innocence or at least claiming that he told Guitar George he was innocent in an attempt to put distance between Rove and George.
And why would ANYONE bother to terra-ize a K-State-Oklahoma football game when the OU-Texas game is the next week? We're talking guppies and whales, when it comes to attention.
Rory, who is that handsome devil?
rorscharh, that is one happy looking baby. Cute too.
mer
Indeed! I just saw her again last week. And she lets me fulfill my first, best destiny--"crazy uncle."
Holden needs 30% for a new pony? Well the erosion may have started towards 30
"""The number of people who strongly approve of Bush's job performance has eroded over the last year, most notably among key groups like evangelical voters, down from 49 percent who strongly approved in January to 33 percent now; Republican men, down from 57 percent to 42 percent; Protestants, down from 36 percent to 25 percent; and Southerners, down from 32 percent to 22 percent.
While four of five Republicans say they approve of Bush's job performance, enthusiasm in that support has dipped over the last year."""
uh oh... what happens when the base starts quakin' and shakin'?
Sorry, 'gorgeous young lady', I should say. I'm terrible at recognizing babies' gender.
Rory, who is that handsome devil?
Ripley
Wife's brother's daughter. Hurray!
AP has a "report" today on its news site that Rove told Bush a long time ago that Rove had nothing to do with the Plame Affair.
This does not seem to be news, but rather more likely it's an attempt to try to distance Bush from the Plame blame game--portraying him as the blameless spouse whose husband has lied to her.
You deserve all the good things that come your way...
rorschach
Ssshhhhhhh - kenahorah...
Baby, you've got to see the baby!
What a cutie.
Meanwhile, October 8, 2005, central Iowa's first frost.
Well, she's a cutie. She looks brand spankin' new, yes? What's the birthday?
AP has a "report" today on its news site that Rove told Bush a long time ago that Rove had nothing to do with the Plame Affair.
This does not seem to be news, but rather more likely it's an attempt to try to distance Bush from the Plame blame game--portraying him as the blameless spouse whose husband has lied to her.
Longview
Yep, it is all spin to put yet another layer of protective bubble around Bush's protective bubble.
Ripley--
July 8th. She's still very new, and adorable.
Ripley--
July 8th. She's still very new, and adorable.
rorschach
Oh, so she has that "new baby" smell. Very powerful around men & women of all ages.
I'd take her to a singles bar if I were you. 
Is John Roberts gunning for Roe already?
I'm terrible at recognizing babies' gender.
Babies actually only have one gender. Cuddly.
Yep, it is all spin to put yet another layer of protective bubble around Bush's protective bubble.
Attaturk
I seem to remember the undeniably implausible unremembering of St. Ronnie during Iran-Contra. Though the distance from Ronnie to Ollie and Poindexter was a helluva lot farther than from Guitar George to Unka Karl.
Like, oh my God!!! Did you hear? Harry likes mens. Really. She's totally straight. You can take it to the bank. Really. She's "very European".
The LA Times presents the proof:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nati...-home-
headlines
GWPDA, you do realize that personally signed,cutting-edge,political fiction make wonderful Christmas gifts? (BWSEG)
QL, fiction is merely hyper-reality, you know?
Here's the source. if anyone needs it.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/sto...LT&
SECTION=HOME
Oct 8, 7:39 AM EDT
Rove Says He Wasn't Involved in CIA Leak
By PETE YOST
Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Senior aide Karl Rove denied to President Bush that he engaged in an effort to disclose the identity of a covert CIA operative to discredit her husband's criticism of Iraq policy, say people familiar with Rove's statements in a criminal investigation.
Rove's brief discussion with Bush has been a mystery for two years because the White House publicly referred to it but refuses to say anything about it.
There's a lot more verbiage following.
GWPDA, you do realize that personally signed,cutting-edge,political fiction make wonderful Christmas gifts?
Why yes, indeed it does. Thanks for reminding me. However, right now the plan is that everybody gets pickles.
Attaturk, wonderfully clear night last night, eh? I was amazed at the clarity of the stars early this morning. Three planets in the Southeastern sky?
(Back to work)
Yep, it is all spin to put yet another layer of protective bubble around Bush's protective bubble.
Attaturk
I seem to remember the undeniably implausible unremembering of St. Ronnie during Iran-Contra. Though the distance from Ronnie to Ollie and Poindexter was a helluva lot farther than from Guitar George to Unka Karl.
Tom - Daai Tou Laam
All very true. But Karl's about to get indicted, Bush has to try to pretend to be the betrayed spouse, rather than someone who at the very least winked while it happened.
But we know Bush loves dirty politics, if Rove is caught on more than perjury or certain types of obstruction, Bush is in even big trouble -- Prezidentin' ending kind of trouble.
Really. She's "very European".
The LA Times presents the proof:
sean
What? Someone's got photos of Harriet topless at the beach?
Oh... and whomever here said that the hoo haw from Blair and the Busheviks about Iran was really going to target Hezbollah in Lebanon deserves a pony.
I'd take her to a singles bar if I were you.
Attaturk
Miriam might not approve. Nor would Gita (Palomi's mother). Plus she lives in San Francisco.
morning batpeople
morning batpeople
I don't know what's more, um, creepy: the Stepford family of John Roberts, carefully assembled from thawed 50s parts, or the attempt to cast Church Lady Harry as Catherine Deneuve.
Attaturk, wonderfully clear night last night, eh? I was amazed at the clarity of the stars early this morning. Three planets in the Southeastern sky?
(Back to work)
DWD
Very chilly, but really fantastic. I have a fairly big scope, but without a lot of bells & whistles. Last night was one of those nights when I got it all aligned and found what I wanted in fairly short order.
Ring Nebula, Andromeda, Whirlpool Galaxy, Hercules Cluster, Crab Nebula, Orion Nebula, I even got the Cat's Eye.
And, of course, Mars Bitches!
here's a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing:
from WaPo:
DeLay Accuses Earle of Misconduct
Lawyers for former House majority leader Tom DeLay (R-Tex.) asked a Texas court yesterday to quash his indictment on Oct. 3 for money laundering in the 2002 election on the grounds that the charge resulted from misconduct by the Texas prosecutor overseeing the case.
The Texas prosecutor promptly disputed the claim..........
The motion asserted that the jurors' answers to this question constituted the "additional information" that Earle said this week he had obtained last weekend and presented to a third grand jury on Monday, which in response voted to indict DeLay on the money-laundering charges. According to the motion, the views of former grand jurors are "not evidence" and using them before a grand jury violates the Texas criminal procedures code.
Earle's office, asked to respond to the new DeLay motion, issued a written statement saying that "these claims have no merit."
"Because of the laws protecting grand jury secrecy, no other comments can be made," the statement said. "The investigation is continuing."
Earle's spokesman, Rudy Magallanes, nonetheless went further, saying flatly that "there is no truth to these claims."
Atta, what was the planet just to the right of la Lune just a bit after sunset? It was a nice set.
Atta, what was the planet just to the right of la Lune just a bit after sunset? It was a nice set.
GWPDA
Venus
Shiny!
G'day Americans,
I've written an article at my Blog about James Dobson and other Christian "Culture Warriors".
Basically I accuse them of being hypocrites for being selective about their moral outrage - the fact that they don't seem to worry about things like Torturing prisoners of war and other things.
If you know any evangelicals, you might like to point them at the article:
http://one-salient-oversight.blo...-
hypocrisy.html
"Because of the laws protecting grand jury secrecy, no other comments can be made," the statement said. "The investigation is continuing."
Keep digging, buggy. China's a long way down there.
Morning all. The fog horns on the harbor woke me up today. Hadn't hear them in a while, now I'm guessing I'll hear them every morning til June.
Delay better shut his fucking mouth, or Erle will come up with a few more charges.
I've got a couple extra shovels to throw Delay.... as long as it expedites his digging.
So far, Ruppert-free. It's a good Saturday morning.
Just checking in. I'll be away from a computer today and tomorrow, so somebody else may have to pick up the "Gary's as useless as ..." duties.
any good subversive pumpkin carvings sighted yet?
I wonder where our host is. If he were in Europe there would twenty threads by now. Must have gone in the other direction.
More great news about the safety of the world:
The determination of countries across the Middle East and Asia to develop nuclear arsenals and other weapons of mass destruction is laid bare by a secret British intelligence document which has been seen by the Guardian.
More than 360 private companies, university departments and government organisations in eight countries, including the Pakistan high commission in London, are identified as having procured goods or technology for use in weapons programmes.
The length of the list, compiled by MI5, suggests that the arms trade supermarket is bigger than has so far been publicly realised.
Moe, we no longer have fog horns: just a pinging sound I hear occasionally. But the ME -OHHH of the fog horn does infect my childhood memories.
End of Challenge
Book II
Last segment to go!
I've got a couple extra shovels to throw Delay.... as long as it expedites his digging.
Barndog
Nuh uh! Y'all are keeping the bug man.
No getting anywhere near China for that bastard.
Looks like we'd better get busy bombing then. It's going to be a long three years...
Toles.
pseudonymous in nc
I don't know what's causing long-term interest rates to diverge from short-term rate hikes and I can't prevent market bubbles, so I guess I'm qualified to be Greenspin's replacement.
rorschach-- while I can't exactly say the spread of nuclear weapons is a good thing, I do think that if Iran tested a few out in the desert, it would give at least some of the American military machine pause when considering expanding their war-- and that would be a good thing indeed.
Peace through atoms!
Good morning
Lazy rainy day here in Metro NY. Now that I have my new laptop I can blog in bed. This is great.
Not great - the fucking New York Times, except for the puzzles.
Peace through atoms!
Moe Szyslak
That's MAD I say. Absolutely MAD!
One Salient Observer - Fabulous website. I've added it to my favorite. Have you ever heard of the Quiverful Movement? That's some scary shit.
Moe--
Good or bad, it is going to happen. And yes, as North Korea has shown, it does deter naked American agression. The negatives, on the other hand, are scary to contemplate.
I've long believed that the fact that humans figured out how to split the atom before figuring out that there is no Big Daddy in the Sky is a massive evolutionary blunder, perhaps a fatal one...
"Mornin', Ralph..."
Wolf at the door?
ask yourself: in what kind of a political universe do these behaviors, far from being erratic, and mindless, actually make sense; what conditions need to be in place for this shit to be rational?
Arabella - Since I seem to have a cold, and we have a wonderful three day, rainy weekend, I propose to spend the bulk of my time napping.
Rupert is icing his hands to take down the swelling. I keep warning him about carpal tunnel syndrome, but he never listens.
WGG, in case you missed it: I posted the entire Aesop's Fable of the Boy Who Cried Wolf the other day. (Received no comments, but the implication is obvious)
Now that I have my new laptop I can blog in bed. This is great.
It'll change your life!
Good or bad, it is going to happen. And yes, as North Korea has shown, it does deter naked American agression. The negatives, on the other hand, are scary to contemplate.
In the end, nuclear proliferation will be seen as Bush's greatest failure.
I've long believed that the fact that humans figured out how to split the atom before figuring out that there is no Big Daddy in the Sky is a massive evolutionary blunder, perhaps a fatal one...
I agree, completely. It's pretty obvious that lots of Americans actually want the end of the world to come, and soon, so they can have their slice of Pie in the Sky. It's the new moralty- ah, the Bush administration, putting the "pro-life" into proliferation....
ql in ny - Yes. Let's have a nap-a-thon. Perfect weather for it.
Is there a Rupert bot? And what happened to Gordon, is he in jail or did he choke on his stupidity?
Some of the younger people at work asked me if I thought it was safe to take subway home. And of course, all trains ran into delays because people were imagining bombs out of Shasta cans. If only for the heightened terror alerts I pray daily for these guys to roast in hell.
I *may* have told Gordon to fuck off and die.
He *may* have taken me literally.
That would be a bonus.
all trains ran into delays
Ah, trains running into DeLay...
so I guess I'm qualified to be Greenspin's replacement.
Tom - Daai Tou Laam - 8:36 am
in the Nation, a couple of weeks ago, William Greider deleivered merciless deconstruction of the Greenspan years at Fed. There is nothing too despicable to be said about the fucking shitheel and his 'policies," no charge to lewd, no accusation unfounded...
Heres Wm Greider from a year ago, for continuity...
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If only for the heightened terror alerts I pray daily for these guys to roast in hell.
ql - It boggles the mind how these bastards have, at least until now, successfully gamed the system to levels I would never have thought possible.
Nasty bastards, these are.
Cower in terror before THE SODA CAN OF DOOM!!!
Let's have a nap-a-thon
As long as I don't get caught (I'm at work this morning)
And I saw that beautiful starry sky too when I left home. One of the things I like about autumn.
Morning, rational people.
Any new indictments?
One Greenspan's most heartless actions was advising people to get variable rate mortgages just a few months before he started uping the interest rate. The fact that people's lives will be completely ruined means absolutely nothing to these shitheels.
It's pretty obvious that lots of Americans actually want the end of the world to come, and soon, so they can have their slice of Pie in the Sky.
'Personal responsibility' is a weird one, isn't it?
"Why did you fuck everything up, my people?"
"Well, we expected you to return, O Lord."
"Oh, thanks a fucking bundle."
Now that I have my new laptop I can blog in bed. This is great.
It'll change your life!
NyMary- Yeah, in only three days it has changed my life. I'm a late adapter, so laptops are new territory. I just got a new cell phone too. The one I used to have was as big as a shoe.
Would that be the 'eternal roasting in hell', or a 'roasting in hell until done', ql?
Inquiring minds need to know.
No nap-a-thon here. But we *are* going to see Curse of the Were-Rabbit this afternoon...
If there's an afterlife, I hope that Greenspan has to share a bed with Ayn Rand and listen to her without interruption for eternity.
I'll answer your Toles with a Luckovich.
Re: Greenspan
economic downturns occur for reasons havig nothing to do with the legends and myths we normally propogate about them.
their one real purpose is to dispossess the poor and working class of the properties for which they have fought and suffered, and to return those properties to the hands and care of their 'rightful' owners, the rich, the elites and the oligarchs...
the bankruptcy bill will help a lot in that process...
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"Why did you fuck everything up, my people?"
"Well, we expected you to return, O Lord."
"Oh, thanks a fucking bundle."
pseudonymous in nc
It doesn't even make sense within the fundie worldview, does it?
I mean, we're all going to die anyway, so I guess we just kind of sit around in the ground all maggotty until Rapture happens, then it's harps and, well, I don't think fundie heaven has sex, but maybe servile black people, or whatever.
So what possible difference could it make whether Rapture happens tomorrow at 2 in the afternoon, or a billion years from now? Or is there some sort of bonus prize for meeting the Four Horsemen in person? Maybe you get two servile black people instead of one, if you're alive when it all falls apart.
anyone now where a cheapskate like me can find Mo Dowd's column this morning? Right kindly of yuh!
I see that Abramoff's stink is spreading as a crony nominee decides to fold the tent. From the NY Times:
President Bush's pick for the second-ranking position at the Justice Department abruptly withdrew his nomination Friday after facing weeks of questions over his ties to the lobbyist Jack Abramoff as well as his role in formulating policies for the treatment of suspected terrorists.
And Mr. Flannigan was supposed to be a shoe-in.
hmmmm...not sure what to make of this story coming out on an early Saturday morning...why now?
Rove Says He Wasn't Involved in CIA Leak
By PETE YOST, Associated Press Writer
55 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - Senior aide Karl Rove denied to President Bush that he engaged in an effort to disclose the identity of a covert CIA operative to discredit her husband's criticism of Iraq policy, say people familiar with Rove's statements in a criminal investigation.
Rove's brief discussion with Bush has been a mystery for two years because the White House publicly referred to it but refuses to say anything about it.
Beginning two years ago, the White House flatly denied that Rove had been involved in unlawfully leaking the identity of covert CIA officer Valerie Plame, the wife of former U.S. Ambassador Joseph Wilson.....
Bush asked Rove in the fall of 2003 to assure him he was not involved in an effort to divulge Plame's identity and punish Wilson, and the longtime confidant assured the president so, people familiar with Rove's account say.
Rove, the deputy White House chief of staff, answered similarly when press secretary Scott McClellan asked him a similar question.
Those with direct knowledge of evidence gathered in the criminal investigation spoke to The Associated Press only on condition of anonymity because of grand jury secrecy.
hmmmmm....It looks like the prez and scotty are distancing themselves from Uncle Karl.
mornin blogkins!
Maureen Dowd's column is about Harriet Miers and cronyism, and that's all you need to know. Pure drivel as usual.
Dowd is the high school bitch who smokes in the girls' room and makes catty remarks about the people who just want to pee.
Now that I have my new laptop I can blog in bed. This is great.
It'll change your life!
NYMary
It'll turn you back into a lapbaby.
No nap-a-thon here. But we *are* going to see Curse of the Were-Rabbit this afternoon...
NYMary
Don't be sayin' that on the Isle of Portland!
It's "underground mutton" or "furry things" there...
Morning batties. Weren't the moon and Venus and Mercury together in the sky this past week? There was a conjunction of some kind, I remember hearing about it on NPR or the weather.
wgg - thanks for the tip on The Nation piece on Greenspin.
and makes catty remarks about the people who just want to pee.
Arabella
Yeah, but she does it so well!
NY Mary, how ya feeling?
Greenspan and Ayn Rand in bed:
"I wanna come first"
"No,I wanna come first"
"Alan,I invented this philosophy,Im gonna come first"
"Why dont we come together?"
"What are you,some kinda commie?"
"Get your own horsey toy, leech!!"
Ayn Rand - age 6
notch, you are one funny and sick motherfucker.
Atrios
Accoring to the Grensboro news-record, Atrios is in greensboro, nc at a blog conference. There was a article in the print edition this morning.
Arabella,
Is the Quiverfull movement those weirdos who argue that God says we should have at least 3 or more kids?
*Sigh* The irony of modern evangelicals is that they DON"T ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND THE BIBLE.
malkintent -
anyone now where a cheapskate like me can find Mo Dowd's column this morning? Right kindly of yuh!
Her column sucks today, I know that surprises you. I get Times Select for free, but I don't think the Tough Shit stuff is e-mailable, or I'd share.
Nuh uh! Y'all are keeping the bug man.
No getting anywhere near China for that bastard.
we take the shovels away when he gets to the core, that's where hell is. that's where he belongs.
heavean and hell, i don't know, but if so these bastards better be saying there prayers.
or hitt'n the jim beam bottle. that would be my choice.
CBS POLL:
Country On Wrong Track: 69%...
Bush Job Approval: 37%...
Approve Of Iraq Handling: 32%...
What did Boosh say about the amount of political capital at his press conference this week?
"plenty,plenty"
Add to that Boosh's remarks on the Iraq war where he said things are going "very, very well..."
And you've got a crazy, crazy guy heading the US government.
Goddess help us.
Accoring to the Grensboro news-record, Atrios is in greensboro, nc at a blog conference
All of those ethics conferences must get tiring.
Don't know what to think:
Police Were Investigating Student Who Blew Self Up
NORMAN, Okla. -- A University of Oklahoma student tried to buy fertilizer of the type used in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing two days before he committed suicide using explosives outside a packed football stadium.
Police said Thursday that the attempted purchase raised the suspicions of an off-duty officer who happened to be in the feed store at the time. But though an investigation was begun, authorities were not able to act swiftly enough to stop the student from taking his own life.
Joel Henry Hinrichs III died Saturday when explosives -- made of hydrogen peroxide, not fertilizer -- strapped to his body detonated while he sat on a park bench about 100 yards from the stadium.
Nobody else was injured, and FBI and university officials have said there was no indication he tried to get in the stadium or that he had any links to terrorism.
Lt. J.D. Younger said Hinrichs tried to buy the ammonium nitrate fertilizer at the Ellison Feed and Seed store on Sept. 29. The store no longer carries that type of fertilizer.
The off-duty officer, whose name has not been released, followed Hinrichs from the store and wrote down his tag number, Younger said.
From there, police identified Hinrichs as an OU student and determined his address. A police bomb squad was also contacted, and the off-duty officer was planning to submit a written report Monday.
"Unfortunately the incident that occurred Saturday was before the information could be forwarded," Younger said.
Hinrichs' father, Joel Hinrichs Jr., said the FBI told him the bomb his son had was made of hydrogen peroxide. He said the FBI told him more high-density hydrogen peroxide was found in the apartment. He said he thinks his son wanted to commit suicide and didn't want to harm others.
Meanwhile, OU president David Boren released a letter Thursday cautioning the news media and community from jumping to any hasty conclusions about the case.
"We believe that we should not judge others ... on the basis of color, race, gender, economic status or freely exercised religious beliefs," the statement read. "To rush to judge others or make assumptions about them on that basis is nothing short of prejudice."
It was not clear what Boren was referring to, but the statement went on to note that some people incorrectly concluded early on that the Oklahoma City bombing was the work of a Middle Eastern terrorist.
"As we all now know, the person responsible was not someone from the Middle East but was Timothy McVeigh and at least one other American who assisted him," the statement read.
Police led Hinrichs' roommate and three other Muslim students from a party after Saturday's explosion, Ashraf Hussein, president of the Muslim Student Association, has said. All were later released.
'US woefully prepared for pandemics such as bird flu'
'new refinery bill gives pork to exxon and squeezes the consumer'
...what ARE we prepared for? nukular holocaust? what does this country stand for - making the rich, richer? the republic, as it stands now, is shit!
And you've got a crazy, crazy guy heading the US government.
Goddess help us.
Shaw Kenawe
Amen, sister!
And the people he's appointed are beginning to be an embarrassment for us world wide.
[blogwhore]
Accoring to the Grensboro news-record, Atrios is in greensboro, nc at a blog conference
All of those ethics conferences must get tiring.
I feel bad for Atrios. He was already on the best moderated blog panel he will ever be invited to attend. It must all be a sad, grey, downward descent into mediocrity for him, henceforth.
gWPDA - I love the term "lapbaby." I haven't heard that expression in over 30 years. I was an au pair for a family with a summer home in Maine. The people in Maine had many great expressions, including "lapbaby" for a child too young to crawl, and "yardbaby" for toddlers. "Yard" meant "door yard."
I feel bad for Atrios. He was already on the best moderated blog panel he will ever be invited to attend. It must all be a sad, grey, downward descent into mediocrity for him, henceforth.
Thers
Not to blow your own horn or anything.
Diane,
link didn't work. what was it?
gWPDA - I love the term "lapbaby."
Me too. It reminds me of Absolutely Fabulous, when Bubbles mistakenly buys a lapdog when she's told to buy a laptop...
Arabella - you just haven't lived until you have a full-figured doggie, like Arthur for example, decide that he wants to be a lapbaby.... We all need to be, a little bit.
Nancy Reagan: "Ronnie did more for education than any president in history. Kids would look at him on TV and say, 'Christ! There's no fucking way I want to grow up that stupid.' "
Not to blow your own horn or anything.
ql in ny
Wow. Thers is limber!
Random comment: I just read Octavia Butler's latest, "Fledgling," and it is very very good.
Highly recommended.
Accoring to the Grensboro news-record, Atrios is in greensboro, nc at a blog conference
Yeppy. And Dave Winer's there, one assumes, simultaneously slagging off 'BigCos' while counting the $5m he got from flogging weblogs.com to Verisign.
Greensboro. No wonder everyone has a blog.
Jesus H. Christ ... Those fuckers in the House voted in another oil executive giveaway yesterday?
How many seats do we need to win next year to take over that chamber? And if we do take over and those bastards do not impeach my head will explode.
Not to blow your own horn or anything.
Just being compassionate.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar- 9:26 am
my 65 lb pink-nose pit-bull, Buddy, is a wannabe lapbaby...
difficult to deny him, too...
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Yeppy. And Dave Winer's there, one assumes, simultaneously slagging off 'BigCos' while counting the $5m he got from flogging weblogs.com to Verisign.
Dave Winer! At a blog conference! What are the odds?
Hey, good news!
Congress has appropriated $50 billion more for the war on terra.
I feel certain that that will do the trick.
Unfortunately the wifi situation at the ConvergeSouth conference is spotty so today will be another no-blogging day for Uncle Dave.
Meaning that we're stuck with threadbot today. Or, y'know, we can go out.
jooc:
my grav's still black on my screen
is it visible to y'all?
Diane,
link didn't work. what was it?
Shaw Kenawe
Teach me to blogwhore on decaf only.
click on my home page, Shaw.
Atrios is up now, in fact, talking about 'policing the media', whatever that is.
one salient oversight- The Quiverful Movement is a lunatic fundie cult - the type that thrives in the USA. Shit, a country that comes up with Mormanism is weird.
I wish a blogger would take up the Quiverful Movement as a point of discussion. The QM is a racist cult that believes that white people should reproduce as much as possible to ensure that America stays white. They don't say this overtly.
John Lennon: "If they shoot men like Lincoln, what fucking chance do I stand?"
click on my home page, Shaw.
Diane
I clicked on your homepage after I posted. I'm slow until the caffeine kicks in.
Good post on the Hughes embarrassment.
Meaning that we're stuck with threadbot today. Or, y'know, we can go out.
pseudonymous in nc=9:32 am
i'll be goin soon...gotta buncha stuff to do, and miles to go (diesel at $3.35/gal, average, here in ABQ...)
fuck
one salient point - More on the Quiverful Movement
The QM does not believe in birth control. A married couple should always be "open to God's gift" of a baby. Women should always be pregnant. There's one family who has 16 children.
Arabella - Google "Jim Bob Duggar" and look at what turns up.
Cold and rainy in far nny.
Even if Bush is the "injured spouse", doesn't that take some of the credibility from his choices for important positions? I mean, hey, if we can't trust him on his closest advisor pick, why trust on anyone else? Not that Brownie et. al. were that great. Perhaps it's time to play this meme.
Any official read on Delay's blatherings?
Atrios is up now, in fact, talking about 'policing the media', whatever that is.
pseudonymous in nc
I'm pretty certain it doesn't involve cats.
Did y'all know - I didn't - that the special prosecutor who investigated Henry Cisneros and ultimately caused him to be fined $10,000 for lying about his mistress, is still investigating?
According to the Dallas paper, he's on a search to turn up something damaging to Hillary. Again.
It has cost us $21 million so far, and there's no end in sight.
wow. so this is what it's like to turn the alarm off and just sleep.
*yawn*
That greensboro conference sounds pretty excruciating, actually. Blog blog bloggity blog media blah.
The neo-cons are still trying to even the score with those that did not go along with the "pack of lies"...
http://katrinamemo.blogspot.com/...-give-
boot.html
The QM does not believe in birth control. A married couple should always be "open to God's gift" of a baby. Women should always be pregnant. There's one family who has 16 children.
Oy. Then again, "true" Catholics don't believe in birth control either. This is why I have 15 aunts and uncles... and countless cousins.
i checked out the quiverful movement web site. weird shit. apparently there is a population implosion happening! they pointed out if you drive across the country you will see lots of space with no people...their objective seems to be coast to coast 60'x100' lots with houses and familys of 10 kids on each one. this would make the population of the usa around 40 trillion or so. this is the kind of movement that makes me hope the chinese will take over and use us as household pets...after spaying and neutering of course....
Congress has appropriated $50 billion more for the war on terra.
Well I certainly feel safer...
Woody - I see your grav just fine.
I'm pretty certain it doesn't involve cats.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar
Biofuels, maybe?
That greensboro conference sounds pretty excruciating, actually. Blog blog bloggity blog media blah.
Thers
Same here. Sounds mind-numbing.
wow. so this is what it's like to turn the alarm off and just sleep.
Close, unless you're posting in your sleep...
"Then again, "true" Catholics don't believe in birth control either. This is why I have 15 aunts and uncles... and countless cousins.
rorschach"
aactually natural birth control is absolutely ok with the catholic church as far as i know
oooh, Preznit Bush is going to defend Harriet Miers in his weekly radio address.
Let's see: "I know her heart, she's not going to change in 20 years' time, she's fantastic!"
"Quivering Movement"? Any fletching going on there? Or just large blocks of gelatin, slowly, slowly, slip sliding away? Why are such things named so oddly? Why not call it the White People Making Many Babies 'Cause They Can association?
thers,
heh. i just realized how little sense that made.
aactually natural birth control is absolutely ok with the catholic church as far as i know
tchange
Yeah, in fact, I owe my existence to the "rhythm method."
heh. i just realized how little sense that made.
watertiger
See? This is what happens when you have a laptop!
Go back to sleep watertiger, you need your rest.
"Yeah, in fact, I owe my existence to the "rhythm method."
rorschach"
you are not alone lol
"Yeah, in fact, I owe my existence to the "rhythm method."
rorschach"
you are not alone lol
Meet the Duggars!
See this, one salient point? A woman with 16 children is not a woman, she's a gerbil. Just google the following: "Quiverfull" "Prairie Muffin" "Prairie Manifesto" and learn more.
Somebody in the blogosphere, please take up this subject. The Quiverfull movement says a lot about American culture. It's also interesting to compare the Quiverfull Movement to the Nazi's stance on women as procreating incubators.
Wow, that's some lousy writing.
George Armstrong Custer: "Once these Indians see our firepower, they'll shit their fucking pants. They'll be throwing flowers and whatever that shit they make that tastes something like candy at our feet."
Sioux Nation: Custer had it coming.
Speaking of cats, it's finally started to dip into the 50s and 40s here at night...but I'm resisting turning on the heat because I'm not looking forward to being raped by Reliant Energy. So far I've been using my electric radiator to keep things warm.
So last night when I'm getting ready to go to bed, I can't find the cat. I checked all the usual sleep spots - my bed, guest bed, dining room table, side of the whirlpool - and finally conclude she must have gone out, though I didn't remember letting her out. I get in bed, lean over to adjust the radiator...and there she is, sprawled out luxuriantly on the floor about 6 inches from it.
Cats just know how to live.
Jennifer - I could have spent a lovely day, napping, sewing, blogging. And you had to direct me to Jim Bob Duggar.
Now how can I nap with a picture of that asshole in my head. Huh?
Go back to sleep watertiger, you need your rest.
Ach, the construction across the way is kinda loud, and there are things to do today.
But I sloughed off the movie festival tix (except for the remake of "The Passenger" with Jack Nicholson) so that I can get things done that have gone undone for the past couple of weeks.
From the Duggars' FAQ:
"Child Training Tip-With 6 little boys age 5 and under we’ve enjoyed much more peace, harmony, & order in our home since a friend shared with us about ‘blanket time’. We began this training four years ago, when our second set of twins were 17 months old. They started learning self-control & obedience by sitting quietly on a blanket playing with a few toys. The key words are ‘sit’ & ‘quiet’! At first, we practiced 5 minutes, 2-3 times a day, & worked up to 10-20 minutes at a time. This one tip has changed the atmosphere of our home tremendously."
Arthur? Any comments?
WGG
Your gravatar is amazing. Details, please.
You know those courtesy buses that take you to the airport hotel? The Duggars use one.
Watching Maher: mAnn Coulter really is just a fucking Ruppert.
Memo: NYC Attack Was Scheduled for Sunday
Well, that wouldn't have been very . . . productive . . . now, would it? Not that many people on the trains on the weekends.
The key words are ‘sit’ & ‘quiet’!
"Roll over! Play dead!"
In case anyone conceivably cares, Arthur has postponed his pedicure until Tuesday. He wants to sit on his blanket instead.
The Quiver metaphor is from the Bible:
Psalm 127:4-6 (King James Version)
As arrows are in the hand of a mighty man; so are children of the youth.
Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them: they shall not be ashamed, but they shall speak with the enemies in the gate.
http://bible.gospelcom.net/
passa...context=context
Basically it is a passage of the Bible that says "Kids are wonderful". It does NOT, however, have any command to have 10-15 kids.
Which is why the Quiverfull movement are a bunch of loonies.
It's amazing isn't it - the sheer stupidity of some religious people is almost enough to make anyone think twice about freedom of religion.
...Almost.
re: the Duggars - they actually had some "report" on them on the Discovery Channel or something like that - I think the husband was a congress man at one point
I wonder if all the quivers are going to move to S. Carolina?
i am all for freedom of religion. i just am against freedom to talk about religion.
It occurred to me yesterday while driving (alot) that Miers has the TANG papers which mysteriously disappeared. This may have already been speculated; I haven't had time to follow all the comments. She was invovled in the cover-up for sure. I think she stashed the goods for future use.
Also, Sullivan's accent is hovering somewhere over the Cayman Islands right now.
noblejoanie:
according to the photog, the shape in the wave is a porpoise...he promises...
the surfer ain't convinced, though, by the way his feet are curled up over top of his board...
i dunno, frankly...but, as a surfer, myself, the ambiguity of the moment is compelling...
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MoDo on "The trouble with Harry"
Check it OUT
So-so column.
I wonder how long these women live after having 15 kids. It just can't be good for one's body.
According to the Dallas paper, he's on a search to turn up something damaging to Hillary. Again.
Tena ... Is this testament to my exasperation or lack of sanity? The other night, get out of work at 11 PM, hail a cab. Driver is a Sikh. He has local repuke radio BLASTING. I ask him to turn it down. He asks if I don't like Bush.
Me: "It's too loud."
Him: "I was a democrat until Hillary and all her scandals."
Me: "What scandals are those?"
Him: "Oh she has been involved in a lot of scandals."
Me: "Which scandals are those, sir?"
He laughs, "You didn't hear about her scandals?"
Me: "No, but I am interested in hearing about the ones you've heard about. Would you please tell me?"
Him: "Everyone knows about her scandals."
This goes on for approximately 30 blocks until finally he says, "I just don't think it's right. I drive through Chelsea and those homosexuals are kissing on the street. My daughter should have to see that."
Me: "What do homosexuals have to do with Hillary Clinton? And why is your daughter in your cab when you are working?"
Him: "Who do they think they are? My daugther should have to see that!"
Me: "So about those scandals and Hillary Clinton. Are you going to name them?"
Him: "Ah, I see, you don't like George Bush."
Needless to say: NO TIP.
Meanwhile, spending the weekend in the autumnal northwoods, catching the peak of full color. Rainy morning, mist over the lake, the world aglow in yellow. A perfect day for soupmaking, napping and being grateful for the gift of this all. The stars were spectacular last night, shooting star watching accompanied by a barred owl's short symphony.
Add to the list of things to be grateful for today---my fellow moonbats. And it's not just the caffeine talking here. You guys keep me sane.
according to the photog, the shape in the wave is a porpoise...he promises...
Hey! We argued about this for a long time, and you never gave an inch to my insistence that it's not a shark...
Asshole
Enjoy!
Have a great day y'all.
Jennifer Yikes! I've been tracking the Duggars for a while now. You too?
Quiverfull Investigators: Here's another link for you -Lovely Clothing for Christian Women
"Rove denied to Bush he was the source of the leak" looks like Bush is getting ready to save his own ass.
aactually natural birth control is absolutely ok with the catholic church as far as i know
tchange - 9:44 am
Ah... Vatican Roulette.
-Lovely Clothing for Christian Women - you got to see the modest swimwear !
Him: "Ah, I see, you don't like George Bush."
Needless to say: NO TIP.
res ipsa loquitur
Hahahahaha. Typical wingnut. Pissed as hell but they can't name the source of their anger/hate. Limpball's great contribution to the public ill.
It occurred to me yesterday while driving (alot) that Miers has the TANG papers which mysteriously disappeared.
Yep:
'Newsweek (July 9, 2000) reported that the Bush campaign "launched a secretive research operation designed to scour all records relating to his Vietnam-era service" while preparing for Bush's 1998 re-election campaign. They paid Dallas lawyer Harriet Miers $19,000 to review the records.'
And she may well have also been behind the new drivers license that Bush received in 1995, thus wiping his Texas record.
tchange - Duggar was a state representative who ran for Congress and got beaten like a red-headed stepchild.
Those of you who are disturbed by just seeing photos or reading about the Duggars can't imagine what it's like to actually meet him, as I did when lobbying the state legislature. He's a completely goofy motherfucker. He's not just as dumb as a rock; he's as dumb as a whole box of rocks. And he was fond of bringing the entire brood down to the state capitol - all dressed in matching outfits. The girls all wear dresses and don't cut their hair. The mom's hair is a scraggly mess with the few unbroken strands reaching down past her ass.
Seriously, seriously fucked up.
sewn by a truly modest Christian Seamstress
Presumably this means the stitching is done in tiny increments? Or perhaps the sempstress is only modestly skilled?
Beats the hell out of me.
"Rove denied to Bush he was the source of the leak" looks like Bush is getting ready to save his own ass.
If Bush is jettisoning Rove, then will Rove ratfuck Bush?
Memo: NYC Attack Was Scheduled for Sunday
Well, that wouldn't have been very . . . productive . . . now, would it? Not that many people on the trains on the weekends.
Scheduled on Sunday, but they call a terror alert on the day of Bush's terra, terra, terra speech. Politically motivated? Nah!
Needless to say: NO TIP.
res ipsa loquitur
Thoroughly unpleasant, that. I had a similar experience back in New Orleans with a racist cabbie. I got his number and called in a complaint; the manager, by her reaction, was clearly an African-American woman. I hope that asshole got his ass fired.
Yeech, the Duggans are probably very nice people but they read the Bible as though it was an instruction manual for their dishwasher.
Yes - kids are a blessing from God. But it is a HUGE step to then use that Bible verse as a command to just keep having children. It's actually a misreading of the text.
Structuralism is the basic literary theory behind traditional Evangelical Bible interpretation - one which I hold. These guys don't do that - for them the Bible becomes a sort of lucky dip to hang all sorts of weird stuff. The technical term for this is "Reader-centered eisegesis". The layman's term is "Making the Bible say what you want it to say".
Small child, after spotting Jonah Goldberg at the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade: "A parade balloon has fallen into the crowd! A parade balloon has fallen into the crowd!"
WGG
Looks like a dolphin to me and I've been lucky enough to dive around them. But I'll admit the general silouhette is unsettling at first glance. They do love to play, though, and my bet is that this critter is a surfer, too.
"actually natural birth control is absolutely ok with the catholic church as far as i know
tchange - 9:44 am
Ah... Vatican Roulette."
I still think it works, depending. my sister for example uses this computer thingy; but then, I have never seen it sold in the US.
Jennifer - Oy. That is some seriously fucked up shit.
Fourteen babies and another on the way. Yikes.
Hey bigvic
Thanks again for the pic you sent me!
NobleJ:
Here's a larger version
folks say it's a porpoise, cuz of the shape of the dorsal fin...true... but look at the tail...a dolphin has a horizontal tail, the shark a vertical one...
it's really ambiguous, but it curls my toes when i think of it...
i had a big porpoise surface near me in the line-up once, and he/she scared me shitless...cuz the only rason i even knew the animal was there was because it didn't care if i knew it was there...
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good morning GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar
we never learned what is the reason for Saint-Pierre et Miquelon last night. Moe tried an explanation but i never saw yours. I,m too lazy to go to my books and i drempt about this last night!
Also, Gaia is pissed off bad this year. natural disasters again, after years of war, Kasmir did not need this earthwake. It's so tragic to wake up to this.
That's it Arabella, no more lazy days. Let's us get our asses in gear and shop for some of those berkas,er, xtian outfits.
American Taliban indeed.
"tchange - Duggar was a state representative who ran for Congress and got beaten like a red-headed stepchild."
yes I wasn't sure what he was, but state or congress, somebody voted for him, highly disturbing
Drunk US Soldier Shoots and Kills Rare Tiger in Iraq Zoo
You all see this?
http://tinyurl.com/888nf
Needless to say: NO TIP.
It's official: res ipsa loquitur RULES!
WGG
Crickey, I see what you mean. Consider my toes curled!
How long has the Cisneros special prosecutor been in business? It's like a lifelong career - and we're paying for it.
I don't want to pay for a fishing expedition to find shit on Hillary.
Jesus - $21 million that could be used to reconstruct NOLA, or put into education or social security or Medicare.
How do we stop this? How do we demand that the special prosecutor close this decades long witchhunt?
Drunk US Soldier Shoots and Kills Rare Tiger in Iraq Zoo
I am so not opening that link. 
Women should always be pregnant. There's one family who has 16 children.
"Moooooo!"
Plum P - good morning!
It is the responsibility of the scholar to foster investigation and study. If I just -tell- you the Miquelon/St. Pierre/French&Indian War/Carribbean connexion how does that benefit you? That would just be wrong and irresponsible on my part.
Etudiez-vous!
WGG,
I don't think I told you - that coffee is INSANELY good! I'm savoring a cup right now.
Natural Family planning stuff:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Fer...ility_awareness
I am so not opening that link
Me neither. There's nothing that can be done and I don't want to be that disgusted this early.
Papal bull: war makes you go sick in the head. This is awful.The tiger had nothing to do with this war and still paid for it. Bring the GIs home and give them some brain drugs!
Woody,
What do you mean "surface near me in the line-up"?
What is the line-up?
I just can't get over this:
"Modest SwimWear
Around 1901, swim wear was modest and stylish. Featuring a knee-length dress over matching bloomers, i.e. Modest Swimwear. The swim-dress has elastic in the sleeves to prevent them from floating up; there is also elastic in the waist to hold this down; the bloomers can be any length you want. Some of my daughters prefer to have the bloomers just below the knees and others like them a little longer. The belt is optional, it is mainly for looks. We don't use it, but would be happy to make one for you."
Tena - Actually, I think the latest count is 16. That 14 number would have been from a couple of years ago. She pops them out at the rate of one or two per year.
clean sheets.
I don't blame you for not opening the link. It's only a 2-line news story, but pretty awful.
rorschach I'm an AbFab fan too.
I come from a large Irish Catholic Family. Like you, I have numerous neices, nephews, cousins, sub-cousins etc. It's too much.
I'm reading the new Zaidie Smith now. I'll check out "Fledglings" after I catch up with my readings for my book group - Trollope in teeny weeny print.
I have to exit the cocoon and do errands. Thanks for the conversation, atriots.
folks say it's a porpoise, cuz of the shape of the dorsal fin...true... but look at the tail...a dolphin has a horizontal tail, the shark a vertical one...
To be honest, the tail looks more horizontal than vertical to me.
Etudiez-vous!
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar
i spent 7 years at University, i'm tired of studying!
and it's éduquez-vous by the way
Asshole
Enjoy!
Have a great day y'all.
Central Scrutinizer
Hoot! That was a great filmstrip. It was well worth the wait on my dial-up. Poor gerbils must be exhausted.
I don't think I told you - that coffee is INSANELY good! I'm savoring a cup right now.
watertiger =10:08 am
WT: i'm happy you enjoy it...lemme know when/if you want more...
btw, do you want any pinion nuts? they're now available, though not cheap..
raw or roasted, either way...
but they'sll also soon be gone for this year...
justa sayin...
I'm sorry watertiger, I should have checked to see if you were here before posting that. I didn't think.
What is the line-up?
The Papal Bull - 10:09 am
it's that part of the seascape near the beach where the waves take shape and form up, to break, and where surfers hang around waiting for their next ride...
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12.08am Sunday Morning in Australia.
Got to get to bed.
See you later Americans - maybe tomorrow morning.
Woody!
Woodya grab me up some of those roasted piñon nuts? The ones without the Hanta virus, please?
Women should always be pregnant. There's one family who has 16 children.
My mother was one of 19 children. Her mother started having babies at age 14, finished at age 42, and died at age 46. French Canadian catholic.
and it's éduquez-vous by the way
Plum P
Wahl, not according to Mme. Odile Paget de Paris, my instructor.... 
WGG - I'll take some pinons, if the offer is general.
Unroasted - I can roast them myself.
Email me - I'll send you my addy here, if you want to do that.
GWPDA; no, you can say étudiez by itself, but not with the vous after. If you do, it would be like to study itself not to study about something. Éduquez vous is to teach yourself something.
I notice that the dateline on the tiger story is Saturday, September 20, 2003.
Doesn't make it any less horrible, but why dredge it up from the Atrocity Archives?
Just another alcohol-soaked Bad Apple; don't suppose any serious discipline was imposed.
Too bad the zookeepers didn't toss him in the cage for an hour or so.
French Canadian catholic.
Richard
and the weirdest thing is that french catholic canadians went from the highest birth rate in north america in the early 1900 to the lowest in the continent at the end of the century! Less than 2 per family now, the pill saved us from being productive like cats
I'm reading the new Zaidie Smith now. I'll check out "Fledglings" after I catch up with my readings for my book group - Trollope in teeny weeny print.
Cool.
While my wife was in New Zealand, Zadie Smith came and did a reading (with Dave Eggers) here in Austin. They both were smart and witty and funny, and I scored signed copies of White Teeth and Autograph Man for Miriam...
Arabella-
cut n paste bonita.
thees gato needs hees Krugman.
so.
aactually natural birth control is absolutely ok with the catholic church as far as i know
tchange
Do you mean the kind Ruppert uses?
aactually natural birth control is absolutely ok with the catholic church as far as i know
tchange
VATICAN ROULETTE!
"Women should always be pregnant. There's one family who has 16 children."
Well, most of us don't want to be pregnant all time.
I wanted two kids. I had two kids.
Every woman is entitled to that choice.
And if she doesn't want ANY kids, that choice should be respected, too!
DeLay Accuses Earle of Misconduct
P-R-O-J-E-C-T-I-O-N!
Nancy Reagan: "Ronnie did more for education than any president in history. Kids would look at him on TV and say, 'Christ! There's no fucking way I want to grow up that stupid.' "
Lime Rickey
Reagan was a genius compared to preznit fuckwit!
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