I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Jail DeLay WITHOUT delay!
And why not throw Bush in there with him, too?
And while you're at it, might as well let Rove go along, seeing as he's headed there anyway.
Judy Miller could go (back), too. She can show them the ropes.
Oh Christ! Almost forgot CHENEY! Jail his ass, too.
How you holding up res?
nicely done ril.
QL ....
I'm tired. I gotta get out of there. I found out that there are other firms that pay 50% more for the kind of crap I'm doing. Going to try to make that happen pronto. If I'm going to do this sort of crap I need to be getting the best money possible for it.
How're you?
jail 'em all. let barbara boxer take the reins!
morning, y'all.
Morning all.
One day closer to seeing them ALL in jail!
I'm tired. I gotta get out of there. I found out that there are other firms that pay 50% more for the kind of crap I'm doing. Going to try to make that happen pronto. If I'm going to do this sort of crap I need to be getting the best money possible for it.
sorry to butt in, but that sucks.
I'm outta here. Thanks for the conversation, atrios.
watertiger ...
Is it insanity to fight with a cab driver like that?
Is it insanity to fight with a cab driver like that?
you're asking the wrong person. I get into fights with cab drivers who don't follow the route I specify. 
French toasts anyone?
Not too late? FUCK BUSH AND EVERYONE WHO HAS EVER SAID SOMETHING NICE ABOUT THE DICKWAD
Not too late? FUCK BUSH AND EVERYONE WHO HAS EVER SAID SOMETHING NICE ABOUT THE DICKWAD
indeed.
I'm tired. I gotta get out of there. I found out that there are other firms that pay 50% more for the kind of crap I'm doing. Going to try to make that happen pronto. If I'm going to do this sort of crap I need to be getting the best money possible for it.
How're you?
res ipsa loquitur
Res--
Already met the joy of getting screwed by law firms?
You have my sympathies.
Back later. Going down to the pier to look for otters--saw 8 last time. Speaking of, any word on otter?
Watertiger, I have never ridden in a taxicab.
French toasts anyone?
mmmmmm... yummy...
and here i was, gonna make some migas.
seaxneat ... Indeed. How long do you think I have to do this shit before I can say I have experience doing it? One month? Two months? (Please don't say more than two months!)
French toasts anyone?
A votre sante!
Threadbot's back on normal, i guess?
You all do know the "pro Bush" sentiment is down, even among the "true believers"?
It's not an indictment; it's even better.
A votre sante!
Or as we Philistines say "Vote for Santa"
Good morning, all!
A rainy day in the Big Apple and a handful of "new" MSTs makes for a happy bj family. We know what we're doing today.
A fun note: I must have pissed off Ruppert last night -- I called him twollie-wollie and asked if he needed his nap. This morning I find an email from an unfamiliar name and a one-line message: "I hope you get caught in the trains"
Feels like I've "arrived"
Watertiger, I have never ridden in a taxicab.
I bought my Australian b-i-l a t-shirt that reads "I survived a NYC cab ride" after his first one.
Everyone should try it, at least once. My favorites are the guys who mistake the gas pedal for a drum pedal and are trying to keep time with the music on the radio.
Res, I was in a similar position at an old job, got fired for being insubordinate. (I told the boss I did his job better than he did.)
After three weeks of soul searching, I managed to pull down a better job that paid me a lot more than I was making at the previous one.
French toasts anyone?
A votre sante!
watertiger
Fetchez les cafes!
watertiger ...
Ordered breakfast in (like a rock star) this morning. Figure with the hours I'm working I freaking deserve it.
seaxneat ... Indeed. How long do you think I have to do this shit before I can say I have experience doing it? One month? Two months? (Please don't say more than two months!)
that's a good question. i think certainly no less than a month, but i'm not so sure that you need more than 2 months, since the nature of what you're doing, some assignments don't last longer than that, ya know?
i know when i worked at a publisher for 6 months, that was considered enough experience for my current job. now i hope that 6 months of this is enough experience to get a different job.
i don't know how NYC works, but down here, whatever work i did while in law school counted for something too.
I've got a feeling THIS is going to be THE WEEK
Fitzgerald: don't dissapoint us!
Well, he's finally done it. By nominating White House lawyer Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court, George Bush has managed to accomplish what Al Gore, John Kerry, Tom Daschle and any number of Democratic heavyweights have been unable to do: He has cracked the Republican monolith. Split his own party activists. And how.
Is mass suicide too much to hope for?
res --
Hope the job situation gets better.
We order in all the time -- hell, it's one of the indulgences of living in New York.
Jessica Biel is the sexiest woman alive? Huh. I wondered what happened to her after Flashdance.
French toasts anyone?
A votre sante!
watertiger
Fetchez les cafes!
hehehe!
Bon voyage!
Bon Chance!
Viv la France!
Lime Rickey --
Great quote! Link?
Fetchez les cafes!
Rmj, Wandering Aengus -10:18 am
speaking of which, do you need some more cafe?
.
oy. perhaps i should have feteched some coffee before trying to type "vive"
"Already met the joy of getting screwed by law firms?"
how is it getting screwed? she interviewed for a job, they discussed salary, she accepted.
Already met the joy of getting screwed by law firms?
RMJ ... Yep. But this a temp gig. I would NEVER work for a place like this permanently.
Check this ... the other night, someone tried to unionize our "shop." When the supervisors were at dinner, he came around and said we were all going to make an agreement not to do more than X docs/hour so as not to make each other look bad. Apparently he is psychologically stuck in law school and was infuriated because someone was blowing the curve.
or fetched, apparently, too.
Is mass suicide too much to hope for?
whoa, that is so weird! i was just reading that article!
I'm not a lawyer but I work in a law firm. It's interesting to observe the different young lawyers -- some obviously love it no matter how arduous, and others look like they're toiling in the shit mines.
All a matter of temprament?
It's not an indictment; it's even better.
Rmj, Wandering Aengus
Great post on your blog, rmj.
The thing we should keep in mind is that it's not just Americans who are watching those falling numbers.
Other governments are now in a position of saying, "And we should go along with you for what reason? You don't even have the support of your own citizens."
It's time for the Dems to start building a shadow government
Best Bush/Booze column yet!
"...Other creepy traits of our commander-in-chief make sense when seen in the light of his unacknowledged alcoholism. There is his adolescent habit, for instance, of conferring nicknames on all who come within his ken. We all know drunks who, deep in the throes of inebriated bonhomie, bestow terms of affection on friend and foe alike.
One can almost feel Bush’s sticky breath and his humid embrace as he christens his confederates, immortalizing them with his own special brand of corny wit: Turd Blossom (Karl Rove), Lima Green Bean (Karen Hughes), Number One (Barbara Bush, who is no doubt relieved that Junior did not name her Number Two), Guru (Condoleezza Rice), Big Time (Dick Cheney), Balloon Foot (Colin Powell), Ali (Barbara Boxer), Big O (Olympia Snow, who may or may not wonder at the cheekiness of Little G’s presumption regarding the magnitude of her orgasms), and last but not least, Pootie Poot (Vladimir Putin, who in times past might have launched the Doomsday Machine upon receiving a moniker with connotations of the female genitalia)..."
Fetchez la vache!
Y'know, I've never ordered in brekkie. I usually just rummage around my cupboard and find something that, while not typically "breakfast," is edible.
Apparently he is psychologically stuck in law school and was infuriated because someone was blowing the curve.
Yeah, that's going to work.
Sorry it's not a better position, res, especially since I told you to go ahead and take the job.
I've got a feeling THIS is going to be THE WEEK
Fitzgerald: don't dissapoint us!
Plum P"
me, too...the news of rove and judy having to go back, plus judy 'finding' her notes plus stories being leaked distancing rove from the chimp are making me very enthusiastic..
The rain falls hard on a humdrum town, this town can drag you down...
Morning in Gramercy Park, rainy and the street fair on Park Avenue is getting drenched. But, the right's monolithic facade is cracking. Hope is better than sunshine sometimes.
We order in all the time -- hell, it's one of the indulgences of living in New York.
bj
I am the take out queen, the first six months in this apartment, I didn't even have the gas turned on. But honestly, it just never occurred to me order breakfast or lunch in. That is a real luxury.
Ah, found the quotes over at rmj's site -- thank you, Mr. J.
In case it matters, seven more American soldiers were killed in Iraq yesterday...
http://katrinamemo.blogspot.com/...-from-
iraq.html
Check this ... the other night, someone tried to unionize our "shop." When the supervisors were at dinner, he came around and said we were all going to make an agreement not to do more than X docs/hour so as not to make each other look bad. Apparently he is psychologically stuck in law school and was infuriated because someone was blowing the curve.
res ipsa loquitur
Reminds me of an Eyebeam cartoon, from Austin days. Sam Hurt (cartoonist) went to UT Law School (met him in a movie theater once; closest brush with fame I can claim).
Anyway, Eyebeam is sitting amid a stack of books (he's a law student) looking pained: "I want my old brain back!"
Law school is brain-warping experience. Some never recover.
How is it getting screwed? she interviewed for a job, they discussed salary, she accepted.
I think he meant in terms of me finding out that other firms were paying 50% more for the same type of work.
BTW ... I'm not on salary. It's a temp job: hourly rate.
I have an announcement: I am removing Atrios from my blogroll since this place has become "all open threads, all the time." Pathetic.
And I have another announcement: I will arrogantly make this announcement on every thread.
This Weekend in Irony
After a serious discussion of superficial news reporting centering on the "reporting" of alleged facts spoken by a figure in the news or by other people Scott Simon followed up with a serious report on duck pin bowling lanes, the discovery of a "lost" Avengers episode (Shouldn't there be a limit of how many times NPR will repeat a fluff story in a single year? On the same program? ) and other equally weighty subjects.
If NPR would do the world a favor and cut it's alleged news programs by even a half hour and devote the resources spent on empty filler to checking their facts on actual news they could be come legends in facts instead of only in the emptied minds of themselves and the overly prone to sobbing sentimentally.
Big O (Olympia Snow, who may or may not wonder at the cheekiness of Little G’s presumption regarding the magnitude of her orgasms)
I take offense at that.
it just never occurred to me order breakfast or lunch in. That is a real luxury.
It is, but it's a cheap luxury -- we have a diner nearby that has a $4 dollar delivery minimum.
Can't beat that.
I'm not a lawyer but I work in a law firm. It's interesting to observe the different young lawyers -- some obviously love it no matter how arduous, and others look like they're toiling in the shit mines.
yeah, it is a matter of temperment. in part, anyway.
some of us went to law school, as cheesy as it sounds, out of some idealistic fervor. the idea of helping people who need it, and just having a nice life doing good things.
those jobs are almost non-existant, and unless you open your own firm, which you are not trained to do, you won't make any money.
for me, any way, it's about control and a desire to play in realms that interest me. that's why i'm always pissy.
"Already met the joy of getting screwed by law firms?"
how is it getting screwed? she interviewed for a job, they discussed salary, she accepted.
jdw
Never worked in a law firm, have you?
And don't bother repeating my father's old line about "You accepted the job, son!" I learned long ago life was a great deal more complicated than that, and so are employment issues.
I usually just rummage around my cupboard and find something that, while not typically "breakfast," is edible.
watertiger
To men (and some women I suppose) this is known as last nights left-over pizza. Almost always better than it was the night before.
that's why i'm always pissy.
seaxneat (fka PoppieProng)
Oh, I thought it was watching your country devolve into a third-rate banana republic that made you that way.
And not even a COMPETENT banana republic.
Great quote! Link?
bj
It's from an article in the WP by Edward Morrissey.
Anyone know if Atrios is all right? Is he sick or have some kind of family emergency? Or is he just taking time to avoid burnout.
I still like coming here to the Forum, obviously.
some of us went to law school, as cheesy as it sounds, out of some idealistic fervor. the idea of helping people who need it, and just having a nice life doing good things.
Why I gave up law for the ministry, in a nutshell.
Family law was the closest I got to helping people, but between losing the wrong cases too often and blaming myself, and having to fight the wrong cases too often, and blaming the clients, I finally gave up.
In that article about Jennifer Biel:
"Youth isn't the automatic turn-on it used to be."
Oh right - yeah I've noticed that myself; I'm beating the guys off with a stick now that I'm of a certain age. Is this guy from Europe? Because I'm told that there they actually do appreciate women my age. In the US - not so much.
Who thinks up this shit?
The rain falls hard on a humdrum town, this town can drag you down...
yes it can.
oh, you weren't talking about houston?
and it's not raining here... donc...
i love the smiths.
I have an announcement: I am removing Atrios from my blogroll since this place has become "all open threads, all the time." Pathetic.
somebody's hurt that he wasn't invited to Greensboro to participate in a blogger ethics conference.
To men (and some women I suppose) this is known as last nights left-over pizza. Almost always better than it was the night before.
Mmm...breakfast of champeeens!
Who thinks up this shit?
25 year-old women.
I don't think it probable that Olympia Snowe has ever had the experience you are speculating about.
"Check this ... the other night, someone tried to unionize our "shop." When the supervisors were at dinner, he came around and said we were all going to make an agreement not to do more than X docs/hour so as not to make each other look bad."
the summer before i went to college i worked in a factory making metal furniture...cabinets, doors and such...union.
worked the door line, where about 6 of us would assemble steel panels into doors...spot weld the panels, grind/sand the welds, etc. every day we'd make exactly 40 doors....
we coulda made hundreds, but we'd make a door then sit...time went slow, but you couldn't even read, but these guys would still make only 40...
what it came down to was that if they made 100, then every day the boss would expect that...if he got pissy, then they'd only make 30, which put him in the position of trying to defend to his boss why production was down...
all very childish and boring and soul killing...good $, tho...
I wonder if all those who are continuing to proclaim that the White House flunkies are innocent of charges that they outted Plame realize that Joseph Wilson was right when he accused Bushco of deliberately exaggerating intelligence in the run-up to war.
I'm tired. I gotta get out of there. I found out that there are other firms that pay 50% more for the kind of crap I'm doing. Going to try to make that happen pronto. If I'm going to do this sort of crap I need to be getting the best money possible for it.
res ipsa loquitur
Ahhh. But think of the prestige you have working for Wolfram and Hart.
Not many leave for other law firms.
Why I gave up law for the ministry, in a nutshell.
Family law was the closest I got to helping people, but between losing the wrong cases too often and blaming myself, and having to fight the wrong cases too often, and blaming the clients, I finally gave up.
that's my big fear. i haven't had the "luxury" of having my own cases, though i have been approached by people who want/need my help. it's a big kerfluffle. in any case, i know i certainly don't want someone's life in my hand until i have much much much more experience. i marvel at people who are fresh out of lawschool and take criminal cases.
Oh, damn. They're playing clips from "Dr. Strangelove" on NPR's "Studio 360".
Freakin' timely.
John Dean (yes, THAT John Dean!) discusses the Earle grand juries.
Short version: DeGuerin screwed up, but even if he hadn't DeLay's doomed anyway.
It's not an indictment; it's even better.
Rmj, Wandering Aengus
This is the best point I've seen in days. It will make me feel better for a while.
some of us went to law school, as cheesy as it sounds, out of some idealistic fervor. the idea of helping people who need it, and just having a nice life doing good things.
That's why I did it. By the time I had passed the bar exam, however, I had already been disabused of a lot of that idealism.
"And don't bother repeating my father's old line about "You accepted the job, son!" I learned long ago life was a great deal more complicated than that, and so are employment issues."
never worked in a law firm, but every job i've ever taken involves a decision to take it for x amount of $ or no...in my current gig, i've screwed myself many a time by bidding too low, can't blame anyone but me for that...
Henriette (my cat) was licking the maple syrup on my french toast while i was getting un café! Naughty cat
Oh, man. I gotta dig out the "Dr. Strangelove" DVD.
We can rub our hands in glee at Bush's loss of support on the freakazoid-fanatic right, but I'm just afraid he's going to dip into the real wingnut pool now for his appointments, just to win them back.
"Youth isn't the automatic turn-on it used to be."
Oh.
somebody's hurt that he wasn't invited to Greensboro to participate in a blogger ethics conference.
That's another thing: Atrios has never ever ever said "I was maybe incorrect"--I know, because I googled it--but Instapundit did once. Ethics? [snort!]
"It's easy to appreciate womanhood without any consideration of age," Granger says. "Youth isn't the automatic turn-on it used to be."
And yet there are age brackets. How nice.
Watertiger: Yesterday afternoon, NPR did a piece on Luis Palau, the latest fashionable evangelist targeting the youth market. The closing bumper music was the opening horn riff from "Godless" by the Dandy Warhols.
what it came down to was that if they made 100, then every day the boss would expect that...if he got pissy, then they'd only make 30, which put him in the position of trying to defend to his boss why production was down...
my biggest mistake at my current job, was to go like gangbusters right out of the gate, trying to prove my mettle.
should've gone at 9 or 10, rather than at 11.
Sorry it's not a better position, res, especially since I told you to go ahead and take the job.
Tena ... Don't be sorry. I am getting paid. I needed money. It could be worse. And it's NOT permanent. I can deal with it (but I reserve the right to bitch about it).
realize that Joseph Wilson was right when he accused Bushco of deliberately exaggerating intelligence in the run-up to war.
pie
Who's stupider? Doug Feith or the folks who put faith in Doug Feith's crap?
Phoenix Woman --
So was that ignorance or an attempt to show how hiply ironic they are?
Mmm...breakfast of champeeens!
I love leftover, cold pizza, but always feel that it's a guilty pleasure. Best not to order it in the first place.
I hate the weekends. Weekends mean no indictments.
I have an announcement: I am removing Atrios from my blogroll since this place has become "all open threads, all the time."
Is that Threadbot's jealous ex?
EPT: i think Atrios was traveling yesterday hence the lack of him on his blog
We can rub our hands in glee at Bush's loss of support on the freakazoid-fanatic right, but I'm just afraid he's going to dip into the real wingnut pool now for his appointments, just to win them back.
the fact that he is losing support among evangelicals tells you that the country is not getting better. because if this president isn't wacked out enough, then who DO they want?
*rhetorical, i know*
Who's stupider? Doug Feith or the folks who put faith in Doug Feith's crap?
The chicken or the egg scenario.
Is that Threadbot's jealous ex?
Naughty Henriette Kitty!
I love leftover, cold pizza, but always feel that it's a guilty pleasure. Best not to order it in the first place.
Guilty pleasure? Maybe every day -- but otherwise, save your guilt for something more worthy!
Mmmmm, leftover pizza.
Henriette (my cat) was licking the maple
I'm a bit bleary eyed and read this as " Henriette (my cat) was licking my nipple."
Yet another reason I'm removing Atrios from my blogroll. And all you losers who sit here talking about breakfast are such...losers!
cute watertiger, but i suspect you would eat that thing in just one bite!
Oh, man. I gotta dig out the "Dr. Strangelove" DVD.
watertiger |
"Shoot, a feller could have a pretty good time in Vegas with all this!"
(If inaccurate, blame a faulty memory).
Still my favorite movie line, ever.
That's why I did it. By the time I had passed the bar exam, however, I had already been disabused of a lot of that idealism.
Tena
I went to law school after figuring out I hated statistical analysis in grad school (poli sci).
I have the idealism in the area of law I practice (civil rights)...but it comes with huge doses of bitterness and cynicism. You don't get rich, and you run into wall after wall.
...Calgon take me away!
Just because.
hahahahahaha! it's nice to be here when i'm not at work; i can actually laugh out loud!
Marco Polo invented spaghetti. Meatballs, however, were developed by Chistopher Columbus, after he discovered that the world was round.
if this president isn't wacked out enough, then who DO they want?
I wonder about this occasionally, and it scares the crap outta me.
Because there is a sizably chunk of this country that wants a theological autocracy -- Jesus with a whip.
"my biggest mistake at my current job, was to go like gangbusters right out of the gate, trying to prove my mettle."
yup.
I can deal with it (but I reserve the right to bitch about it).
You go right ahead and do that. Good therapy.
BJ: I think they were trying to be ironic, and figuring that the Luis Palau fan base is highly unlikely to be listening to NPR (or if they're Dandy Warhols fans, would love it).
I have the idealism in the area of law I practice (civil rights)...but it comes with huge doses of bitterness and cynicism. You don't get rich, and you run into wall after wall.
...Calgon take me away!,
isn't cynicism the logical extension of idealism?
Attention NYers: If the Starbucks/ Dunkin' Donuts assault on NYC's (dwindling) uniqueness isn't bad enough, a fucking 7-11 (could there be anything more redundant in a 24 hr. town?) has opened at 3rd Ave and 82nd, with many more to come throughout Manhattan. The suburbs have arrived for good; big corporate chains are the only businesses that can afford the rent. Too depressing...
Hey, our Gravatars are back!!!!!
Of Mice and Pizza.
Still my favorite movie line, ever.
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room!"
I have an announcement: I am removing Atrios from my blogroll since this place has become "all open threads, all the time."
I'm overwhelmed with raging, uncontrollable indifference.
Barbara Boxer and Olympia Snowe National Unity Ticket!
The suburbs have arrived for good; big corporate chains are the only businesses that can afford the rent. Too depressing...
That's it. I'm buying a place out in the middle of nowhere.
Now if I can only find nowhere.
Because there is a sizably chunk of this country that wants a theological autocracy -- Jesus with a whip.
bj
Well, my febrile imagination did not stop with the moneylenders in the Temple.
That description brought up images that were wrong on so many levels. All of 'em Freudian.
"Happiness is the maximum agreement of reality and desire"--- arkady renko
Who's stupider? Doug Feith or the folks who put faith in Doug Feith's crap?
Tom - Daai Tou Laam
Doug Feith is operating at his highest capacity. He is indeed stupid. The people who keep buying his stupidity may or may not be able to function at a higher level than Feith but we cannot know under the present circumstances. In other words, if they're smarter they're even stupider.
I have an announcement: I am removing Atrios from my blogroll since this place has become "all open threads, all the time."
I'll alert the media.
/sniff
Olympia Snow can kiss my murine ass.
Hey, our Gravatars are back!!!!!
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yours isn't. I don't yet understand the gravatar appearance hierarchy
"my biggest mistake at my current job, was to go like gangbusters right out of the gate, trying to prove my mettle."
yup.
even my parents, who have the most puritan work ethic i have ever encountered, told me that was the dumbest thing i could have done. from a work perspective, anyway. if i had decided to kill my boss or something, obviously that would have been a bit worse.
Oh right - yeah I've noticed that myself; I'm beating the guys off with a stick now that I'm of a certain age. Is this guy from Europe? Because I'm told that there they actually do appreciate women my age. In the US - not so much.
Isn't it amazing how after you reach a certain age, men don't even see you. I mean, it's like I'm not even there sometimes.
I went to law school after figuring out I hated statistical analysis in grad school (poli sci).
Statistics (shudder). Had to take it for my psych minor. All I remember is chi squares.
Marco Polo invented spaghetti. Meatballs, however, were developed by Chistopher Columbus, after he discovered that the world was round.
Who invented tomato sauce? Amerigo Vespucci?
isn't cynicism the logical extension of idealism?
seaxneat (fka PoppieProng)
Figures somebody would point that out.
res - being underpaid sucks. Sad truth is that there are more bad jobs (in all the variety of ways jobs can be bad) than there are good ones. Sounds like you have the right attitude about it, i.e. "it's just a job and I'll get out of it what I can before moving on." I think that's the best attitude to have about jobs these days.
My new gig is in start-up mode. I'm still working at the old place, but I'm "phasing in" to the new job by taking on a couple of projects and managing them on my time. So far I have two running and two getting ready to start.
Pros: I'm getting to do what I was always interested in doing (residential design), working with people I've known for years, being paid well with opportunity to make extra on each project, get the first week of deer season (no kidding) and a couple of weeks at Christmas off, and I get to wear jeans, workboots, t-shirt and sweaters as my "uniform".
Cons: When I go full-time, I'll need to be at work by 7:30 each morning and I'm not a "morning person", and I'll be managing construction crews - who almost universally have an aversion to hearing a woman tell them how to do a job.
It promises to be quite interesting.
I saw someone on tv this week cooking a hamburger but instead of bread buns, they used 2 halves of a Krispy Kream donut. And they called it a Luther Vandross. No wonder he died so young!
yours isn't. I don't yet understand the gravatar appearance hierarchy
it's weird. i've even cleared my cache, and it's still hit or miss on my end.
Because there is a sizably chunk of this country that wants a theological autocracy -- Jesus with a whip.
Well, when they get around to wanting a kitten with a whip, let me know. I'll make myself available.
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room!"
watertiger
"Mr. President, we cannot allow! a mine! shaft! gap!" (Trying to get George C's intonation in there)
Barbara Boxer and Olympia Snowe National Unity Ticket!
plantsman
Olympia Snowe is a piece of crud. She is a Republican who has to run from a largly Democratic state so she once in a while has to put up the appearance of being "moderate" but she's a pretty reliable vote for the worst of Republican-fascism. She's been my senator for way too long already.
but otherwise, save your guilt for something more worthy!
Actually, I like to eat healthy. Just don't put a plate of freshly fried chicken near me.
You all are bacteria. I made soup.
Lindy --
It actually started with the Disneyfication of Times Square.
It's been all downhill from there.
rmj --
Yeah, I amused myself with that image.
The people who keep buying his stupidity may or may not be able to function at a higher level than Feith but we cannot know under the present circumstances.
EPT
If they buy in to the DeLay and Rove and Scooter innocence and the HUUUUUGE tracts of land separating Rove and Guitar George, then what? Deserve Time's Blog of the Year?
Who invented tomato sauce? Amerigo Vespucci?
Torquemada.
Marco Polo invented spaghetti. Meatballs, however, were developed by Chistopher Columbus, after he discovered that the world was round.
Pancakes, however, predate Columbus.
Well, when they get around to wanting a kitten with a whip, let me know. I'll make myself available.
Ann-Margaret had nothing on you!
Figures somebody would point that out.
hahahahahahaha!
Lindy McDaniel: You wouldn't happen to be THE Lindy McDaniel, would you? If so, I saw you pitch in the Stadium back in the day.
(In case you're wondering, yes, I am indeed THE Excessive Bastard.)
Damn that bastard's excessive. Geez.
and I'll be managing construction crews - who almost universally have an aversion to hearing a woman tell them how to do a job.
It promises to be quite interesting.
Oh, I'd love to see that. In a battle of wits, they won't have a chance.
EPT, you are right about Ms. Snowe. My folks are from Maine, and they like to give her the benefit of the doubt, but even they are getting sick of her going with her party almost all the time.
That description brought up images that were wrong on so many levels. All of 'em Freudian.
Of course, as a minister, you'd hold the whip...
My fundie wingnut MIL has started watching The Daily Show!
What could this mean?
Oh, there are 4 guys on horses outside the window....
some of us went to law school, as cheesy as it sounds, out of some idealistic fervor. the idea of helping people who need it, and just having a nice life doing good things.
Haha! Not me. I have no idealistic fervor.
Jennifer ... I think your job sounds cool.
Right now I keep kicking myself for thinking the grass was going to be greener. I gave up a good-paying job to go to school. I hated the work, but the job was easy and I was well paid. Now I hate the work, the job is easy, and am paid lousy.
Well, when they get around to wanting a kitten with a whip, let me know. I'll make myself available.
watertiger
Kitten with a whip? Ann-Margret, meow!
Tom - Daai Tou Laam, talk about a point that clinches the argument.
You all are bacteria. I made soup.
NTodd
Are the Christian hetero pukes still oppressing String?
From CBS: President George W. Bush's overall job approval rating has reached the lowest ever measured in this poll, and evaluations of his handling of Iraq, the economy and even his signature issue, terrorism, are also at all-time lows.
You have to wonder why nodbody is talking impeachment - clearly Bush is a very unpopular president - even more so than Nixon.
Oh, there are 4 guys on horses outside the window....
hahaha!
I'll be managing construction crews - who almost universally have an aversion to hearing a woman tell them how to do a job.
I left professional theater for two reasons: (1) our local union wouldn't let me in, since I was a girl and not in costuming and not fucking any of them, and (2) my employer would not let me travel with sets (the primary bonus-arning opportunity) since, I was assured, no out-of-town crew would ever, ever listen to me.
Good morning spaghetti lovers
What would it take to prove Rove had *intent to punish* Wilson? And is that the only way Fitz can nail him? I'd think: hard to prove THAT. Not hard to prove what he did and said.
Morning, Moonbats!
(She says, as she sports her Moonbat tee shirt with pride!)
NYMary ROCKS!
Jessica Biel is the sexiest woman alive? Huh. I wondered what happened to her after Flashdance.
mosh momken abadan
That was Jennifer Beals.
Jessica Biel is the sexiest woman alive? Huh. I wondered what happened to her after Flashdance.
mosh momken abadan
That was Jennifer Beals.
Condi can play the melody to "You Are My Sunshine" on the piano with her left tit.
It could be worse. And it's NOT permanent. I can deal with it (but I reserve the right to bitch about it).
Oh anyone who is working has the right to bitch about it as far as I'm concerned. And because it was temporary, I didn't feel quite so much responsibility as I would have otherwise.
I had just hoped it would work out better for you; I'd hoped it would be interesting.
Are the Christian hetero pukes still oppressing String?
You just don't understand what String and I have to put up with. And I want everybody to notice who started this shit.
You all are bacteria. I made soup.
NTodd"
good day for soup here...second in a row, grey cold rainy...cats are restless having slept waay beyond their normal 22 hours yesterday...
courtesy of my brother:
cartoonist ann telnaes.
clearly Bush is a very unpopular president - even more so than Nixon.
No, Nixon hit the mid-20s.
What would it take to prove Rove had *intent to punish* Wilson? And is that the only way Fitz can nail him? I'd think: hard to prove THAT. Not hard to prove what he did and said.
well, unless there's a new statute being bandied about, i don't think a desire to punish Wilson is relevant. but, i haven't been following too closely this week.
You just don't understand what String and I have to put up with. And I want everybody to notice who started this shit.
Have I ever been proved wrong?
Oh, there are 4 guys on horses outside the window....
Keep a close eye on the one on the pale horse.
Morning to you all, hetero scum!!
Have I ever been proved wrong?
You have never falsified anything I've said. Instead you just oppress me.
"I'll do it, but you'll have to answer to the Coca-Cola corporation."
"You Commie preverts and your Commie prevert ways!"
NYMary --
Um, speaking of "moonbat" t-shirts...
No, Nixon hit the mid-20s.
All in good time, my pretty, all in good time.
(/Margaret Hamilton)
Hiya Vicki!
Excessive Bastard -- yeah, it's me. I hang out these days with Jim Ray Hart and Duke Simms. And we all are appalled and distressed by what's happening to New York Starbucks Dunkin' Donuts 7-11 Fucking City. Late capitalism sucks.
if this president isn't wacked out enough, then who DO they want?
The way they have turned on w is breathtaking. I'm convinced they will never be satisfied. They love feeling abused. They will just make shit up to turn themselves into martyrs. I bet that Dugger woman hates being pregnant and kids, but is willing to do it so can feel like she is actually somebody doing something important. What else does she have that makes anything more than a pathetic know nothing?
Morning to you all, hetero scum!!
Stop making fun of me, you hetero PUKE. Only SWR has ever tried to be nice to me.
oh my... it seems a certain someone... has... well...
Have I ever been proved wrong?
NYMary
You're just threatened because I falsify Christianity.
NYMary --
To follow up on last evening's discussion:
The MSTs are fuckin' fantastic quality -- we will definitely be in touch with this guy again!
Hiya bj! I, er, looked at a padded envelope yesterday, thought "I should really deal with this" and then, well, didn't. But this week for sure!
Wait a moment...is NTodd channelling Incog?
Oh. My.
Or is Incog stealing NTodd's name?
I am soooooo confused.
The way they have turned on w is breathtaking. I'm convinced they will never be satisfied. They love feeling abused. They will just make shit up to turn themselves into martyrs. I
and i think that you are exactly right!
"Good shooting, soldier!"
Oh, there are 4 guys on horses outside the window....
Keep a close eye on the one on the pale horse.
rorschach
Is he named Knute? Odds on to win the Heisman this year?
But I'd be more worried about the humoungous pecan tree.
but I'm just afraid he's going to dip into the real wingnut pool now for his appointments, just to win them back.
Fuck him - he doesn't have any more SCOTUS spots to fill.
That was Jennifer Beals.
Oh yeah - I thought she was prettier before her nosejob, you know, the way she looked in Dirty Dancing.
I am soooooo confused.
So am I!
Just wait until I start doing gordo...
BJ, NYMary:
MSTs? As in Joel and the 'bots?
NYM --
As long as I haven't been forgotten.
Well, wifey is wooing me away from the computer with the MST of "Amazing Transparent Man" so....
I had just hoped it would work out better for you; I'd hoped it would be interesting.
Tena ... It was interesting for a few days -- reading the complaints, realizing that the work we are doing is really for the benefit of the opposition (which secretly pleases me), seeing how big firms handle big messes like this ... but now it's just volume.
It will be fine, b/c it will be over. I just have to struggle not to get depressed. I keep kicking myself and wondering why I did this (as do the other 99 people in the room).
That was Jennifer Beals.
Oh yeah - I thought she was prettier before her nosejob, you know, the way she looked in Dirty Dancing.
LOL!
Just wait until I start doing gordo...
please don't. it wouldn't be healthy.
You have to wonder why nodbody is talking impeachment - clearly Bush is a very unpopular president - even more so than Nixon.
Cheryl - 10:48 am
Not relevant to the current topic of discussion, but I watched the first two episodes of "SCTV network 90" last night.
They had a sketch on G. Gordon Liddy that was hilarious and captured all the nonsense that is the essence of Liddy for the years that have followed.
Just wait until I start doing gordo...
call me a "cunt" and I'll hunt you down and kill you. I'm only a 4-hour drive away, y'know.
WAPIISSHH!!
You just don't understand what String and I have to put up with. And I want everybody to notice who started this shit.
Have I ever been proved wrong?
It's bad enough when he is here. Don't!
please don't. it wouldn't be healthy.
But I just cleaned my lightsabre and everything!
WAPIISSHH!!
HAHAHAHAHAH! and with your gravatar saying it! hahahahahah!
I OWN THIS THREAD, FUCKERS!!
Or before she did "Jenny from the Block," right? lol
Anyone like a pretty white cat with orange tiger stripes on the face and tail?
The little whiffet just knocked a huge glass of water off of my desk, shattering the glass into shards.
He thinks my drinks are *his* drinks.
Thank God I don't drink out of the toilet.
bj,
Very cool! I bought Thers a complete season 5 a year or so ago, and the quality was.... not good. So we definitely need another source.
please don't. it wouldn't be healthy.
But I just cleaned my lightsabre and everything!
hahahahahahahah! hahahahahahah! hahahahahahhha!
Oh my. There must have been some words I missed exchanged on old and contentious subjects.
Must avoid the temptation. Remember that fragment from Sappho, "The squeamish shouldn't prod the beach rubble,".
VOTE GREEN
NOT "stay in Iraq" DEAN
and the other Bush enablers
Jennifer - and I'll be managing construction crews - who almost universally have an aversion to hearing a woman tell them how to do a job.
No shit. I'll be interested to hear how this goes. I bet you win them over.
Phoenix Woman --
Is there any other?
We found a source for help filling out our collection, and the quality is excellent.
You can email me for an address if you're interested.
Yes, it's even better when you hear in in Master Shake's voice. Moe's grav is good like that too.
I want a Kitten with a Whip, I've been a naughty boy!
The MSTs are fuckin' fantastic quality -- we will definitely be in touch with this guy again!
bj
BJ, tell us who it is. I need 60 some to complete my library...its very important that I have each and every bit of SOL goodness!
Okay, I'll stop. I really need to get out of bed, but it's cold and rainy outside (I have the window open), Sam's curled up on my feet, and Cairo is nestled right next to me. Sigh.
All right, y'all, i gotta get cleaned up, and ready for UT-BlowU at noon my time.
Hook Em!
VOTE GREEN
NOT "stay in Iraq" DEAN
and the other Bush enablers
Shut the fuck up. Unless you're somebody picking up on the fake troll gig, in which case, you're doing a fantastic job.
I wonder if one of the side effects of bush's popularity slide into the basement might be a new willingness on the part of disenchanted bush voters to re-examine the theft of the last two presidential elections. The possible reasoning going something like this; "Sure I voted for the lout but he lied and cheated, I'm not really responsible for this swirling commode of an administration"
Condi can play the melody to "You Are My Sunshine" on the piano with her left tit.
Lime Rickey
Now that is just sick. So sick it needed to be repeated.
Not relevant to the current topic of discussion, but I watched the first two episodes of "SCTV network 90" last night.
Does it have the "Leave it to Beaver 20th Anniversary Special"?
One of the funniest skits ever written.
Anyways.
Just wait until I start doing gordo
He hasn't been seen in his old haunts, at least not by my friend and he would almost certainly have seen him.
I've got a stong suspicion that he wasn't fired but was told that if he associates the company with his best efforts that he will have a lot to answer for.
All right, y'all, i gotta get cleaned up, and ready for UT-BlowU at noon my time.
Hook Em!
seaxneat (fka PoppieProng)
BlowU? I thought after the K-State game all the wingnuts was callin' 'em BlowEmALLUp U?
res - I think you just have to find an area of the law that you like and stick with it. There are so many options. Don't let this one experience sour you on the whole profession.
NYMary, Attaturk --
You have mail....
BJ, tell us who it is. I need 60 some to complete my library...its very important that I have each and every bit of SOL goodness!
please! share the love, man!
I just have to say, Irish literature sucks.
EPT - such sad news!
[does happy dance]
Condi can play the melody to "You Are My Sunshine" on the piano with her left tit.
Lime Rickey"
she can also put a piece of metal inbetween her front teeth and turn her mouth into a jew's harp...she often plays dixie for bush, so i hear...
pie - that's the problem, if I get into matching wits with them, they'll be humiliated and either quit or perform poorly. I think I'm going to take the approach of just saying to them, right on the front end, "Look, I'm not full of it, but I don't know it all either. If I ask you to do something that doesn't make sense according to your experience of how things should be done, tell me about it and explain why it should be done a different way." Hopefully that will smooth things a bit at the beginning. With the crew that did the addition and remodel here at my place, by the end of the job, they knew that I had some sense and good reasons for having things done certain ways. There was only one guy who was unreasonable and there's some of those everywhere anyway. So hopefully after doing a job or two together it will be easy.
I just have to say, Irish literature sucks.
Is Thers even awake yet?
VOTE GREEN
NOT "stay in Iraq" DEAN
and the other Bush enablers
hd
Vote Green again,
Eight years' hell turn to ten.
Keep up the trend,
Fascism will never end.
Does it have the "Leave it to Beaver 20th Anniversary Special"?
One of the funniest skits ever written.
Attaturk - 10:59 am
Yes.
[does happy dance]
So you got out of bed finally?
That is good news, however.
BJ, tell us who it is. I need 60 some to complete my library...its very important that I have each and every bit of SOL goodness!
please! share the love, man!
watertiger
The master would not be pleased.
Ah, college football. So glad I'm no longer married.
And the prof, believe it or not, does not follow sports. He's an artist, could care less about some big lunks cracking heads on a field.
I don't want to post the address because of the grey market status, but I've emailed you guys with the link.
So you got out of bed finally?
Um...not yet. I have a lot to do, but I just hate the idea of disturbing the animals.
Does it have the "Leave it to Beaver 20th Anniversary Special"?
One of the funniest skits ever written.
Attaturk - 10:59 am
Yes.
Gimlet
Oh man, must have. Which DVD in particular?
So you got out of bed finally?
Um...not yet. I have a lot to do, but I just hate the idea of disturbing the animals.
Not relevant to the current topic of discussion, but I watched the first two episodes of "SCTV network 90" last night.
Does it have the "Leave it to Beaver 20th Anniversary Special"?
One of the funniest skits ever written.
I vote for Night School High Q. Probably the first time I peed my pants laughing.
I'm tired. I gotta get out of there. I found out that there are other firms that pay 50% more for the kind of crap I'm doing. Going to try to make that happen pronto. If I'm going to do this sort of crap I need to be getting the best money possible for it.
How're you?
You Law folks ever thought about forming a UNION?
res ipsa loquitu
Lindy, pleased to "meet" you. I grew up in NYC (Queens). Don't live in the area anymore but have to say I find it hard to believe that NYC of all places could fall victim to that kind of corporate homogenization ... although, thinking about the economics of the situation, I guess I'm not surprised. Sad.
Atriotistas
Sangria y Cat-neep, bad combination.
anyone have keety-aspirin?
bj,
oh, that I had $750 to spare!!! thanks for the link!
So hopefully after doing a job or two together it will be easy.
I hope so. You've got the right attitude. No one likes to be bossed by a know-it-all who is averse to listening others' opinions.
Once you earn their respect, you're all set, no matter what disagreements might later occur.
I just have to say, Irish literature sucks.
rorschach
And here I was, all ready to buy you a drink in DC. *sigh*
Is Thers even awake yet?
NTodd
He was. He's back to sleep now.
I have a lot to do, but I just hate the idea of disturbing the animals.
They can stay in bed.
lookee here, found on NYT archive page:
"Take me to your leaker. Express yourself with a Karl Rove pinata. Strike a blow for justice."
pinata@democracynaction.com
The link opened off the site (don't know if this will) and it is DEFINITELY a great activity for eschacon next year (altho Karl might be in jail by then)
GWPDA has a new job?
No one likes to be bossed by a know-it-all who is averse to listening others' opinions.
pie
Is this Dick Cheney or Donald Rumsfeld?
Hey Vicki - How's your dancin' shoes?
Saturday mornings still feel wrong without MST3K, I have to say.
Is that Threadbot's jealous ex?
It seems that somebody had been namestealing NTodd of late. Either that or he's had a brain aneurism that has changes his personality.....
could care less about some big lunks cracking heads on a field.
I like him already.
As a born loser and quitter, one wonders how this will all end for The Boy Blunder. I'm guessing a tear-filled resignation and blaming of others. And, of course, full pardons for all.
NTodd - If I were you, I'd turn off the computer and go back to sleep.
I actually welcome 7-11 to NYC if for no other reason than they're now a Japanese company and the 7-11s in Japan have random pots of boiling mystery oden 24-7. If we could get that in New Fuckin' York, I'm down with that.
I don't want to post the address because of the grey market status, but I've emailed you guys with the link.
bj
Thanks BJ.
Keep cycling the tapes.
she can also put a piece of metal inbetween her front teeth and turn her mouth into a jew's harp...she often plays dixie for bush, so i hear...
jdw
Careful. They're now called "jaw harps."
I vote for Night School High Q. Probably the first time I peed my pants laughing.
edub - 11:04 am
It has it if that's the quiz show hosted by Eugene Levy where Catherine O'Hara and the rest answer the questions before Levy's finished.
It's called "SCTV Network 90" Volume 1. Got the first two discs from the local Library.
It seems that somebody had been namestealing NTodd of late.
Nah, that was me, trollstealing. Uh, trademarkstealing? Whatever. I've stopped now. And I am really getting out of bed.
Feral,
My dancing shoes retired after you danced the night away with me!
Saturday mornings still feel wrong without MST3K, I have to say.
NYMary
Yes they do.
There are so many of us who love them. We should have like a "tape club" and take advantage of the thread bot to all watch the same EP together sometime.
It would be like the saddest orgy ever.
I thought a 7-11 opened [and closed] on the Upper East Side in the early '90s. No?
Vote Green?
Who's their school board candidate? City Council? They running anyone for the state leg?
Didn't think so.
And here I was, all ready to buy you a drink in DC. *sigh*
I was just checking to see if Thers was hereabouts. You've heard my paeans on Joyce, I am sure...
Careful. They're now called "jaw harps."
Lime Rickey - 11:10 am
Or "Israeli mouth organs".
OOOOO! Rhino is apparently releasing one of my fave MST's right around my birthday! Woo-hoo!
(That would be "Hobgoblins," for those playing along at home.)
How are all you extras this morning?
My dancing shoes retired
one wonders how this will all end for The Boy Blunder.
Oh, the joy of seeing that moron wave one last time as he gets on the plane ala Nixon.
Eh, I enjoyed "portrait of the artist" okay enough. It didn't blow me away or anything, but it was nice.
Is this Dick Cheney or Donald Rumsfeld?
I thought that as I typed it. I feel sorry for those who have vehemntly disagreed with Bush policies, especially since 9/11.
I read that Susan Wood finally quit her post as Asst. Commissioner at the FDA after the Commissioner again delayed a decision about the morning-after pill for purely political reasons, ignoring all scientific findings.
How can anyone work in that type of environment? Afraid to quit because change might still occur, but too angry and disgusted to stay.
(That would be "Hobgoblins," for those playing along at home.)
NYMary
Oh that one is painful...and funny.
"Werewolf" was about that time too, I love the way they close the credits to that one by singing all manner of songs along with "Tusk". I believe I wet 'em when I first saw that.
Jaw harps, eh? I hear they're marketing today's Texas-OU game as the "Red River Rivalry" instead of the "Red River Shoout-Out" because it sets a bad example for the kids in Dallas who might join gangs.
Wusses.
p.s. Lindy, I was at the last game at the "old" Stadium in '73. Sorry you took the L (retrosheet can be a bitch, heh) but you had a fine year that year ... I was 10 and my dad let me run on the field after the game. One of the great thrills of my young life.
[/fanboy]
take care.
Ironically, the only harp player most people can name off the top of their heads was Jewish: Adolph/Arthur Marx.
BlakNo1 ~
He's high intensity, though. This week, he has been comletely wrapped up in grading papers and projects...it has been all he has done ~ all week. Has barely written me, let alone called.
The intensity is intriguing, but God, I think he needs a Franklin Planner or something because he doesn't have a good sense of time management, near as I can tell.
Could be the artist in him.
I haven't written him for a couple of days, and last night he sent me three e-mails. "Where are you? Can I see you when I get the school work done?"
I'll write him back today or tomorrow, but I'm chilling because I need to process his all or nothing approach to things.
If that makes any sense. I still really like him though.
It has it if that's the quiz show hosted by Eugene Levy where Catherine O'Hara and the rest answer the questions before Levy's finished.
Yeah, that's it. Sorta looked like Hollywood Squares, but the contestants were dumber than dirt.
Don't live in the area anymore but have to say I find it hard to believe that NYC of all places could fall victim to that kind of corporate homogenization
Sorry to tell you that there are chain stores and malls (strings of chain stores in the same block) all over Manhattan now. It's vile.
Eh, I enjoyed "portrait of the artist" okay enough. It didn't blow me away or anything, but it was nice.
Yeah, but Ulysses is among the greatest works in the English language. Brilliant, every line of it.
So, I finally catch up a bit here and what do I find? NTodd, pantsless again of course, channeling Incog on one of his bad days. I'm headed outside to finish painting a friend's porch. When I get back, I want to see somebody try a credible Merkin. (S)he's beyond my abilities and this little plan will finally reveal who this elusive punster is!
(Did I say that out loud?)
VOTE GREEN
NOT "stay in Iraq" DEAN
and the other Bush enablers
Yes, indeed: Hook 'em. Hook 'em all.
NYmary
Hobgoblins who travel in the easy 'pop' open spacecraft.
Many laughs at stick girl and fancy boy.
Great one!
Who's their school board candidate? City Council? They running anyone for the state leg?
Didn't think so.
Moe Szyslak
I really wish the sane Greens well. I do. If there was a viable third party on the left it would force Democrats to pay more attention to the left. But unless they gain traction on at least the state level it is absolute folly for them to do anything on the federal level.
Nader's Nutters are another story. They are Lyndon Larooooooosh's zombis without the comedy value. They are deluded cultists. Ed Cox used to be a Nader's Raider, if I remember correctly. And see how well he's turned out.
it is hilarious to watch republican senators try to support Miers...
I noticed Sully got all pissy last night....funny watching him slag off Coulter
Ulysses is among the greatest works in the English language. Brilliant, every line of it.
Derivative tripe.
EPT,
The nutty Christians started at the school-board level and worked their way up. So should the Greens.
I wonder if all those who are continuing to proclaim that the White House flunkies are innocent of charges that they outted Plame realize that Joseph Wilson was right when he accused Bushco of deliberately exaggerating intelligence in the run-up to war.
pie
oh the war hillary clinton and the other crypto-fascist 'democrats' support.
My favorite bit from SCTV is any time Dave Thomas does Walter Cronkite. Especially the $Dialing for Dollar$ movie/telethon thing. Hysterical.
Who's their school board candidate? City Council? They running anyone for the state leg?
FOR President, silly
Feral, I'd add to that that NYMary is a saint for putting up with my spastic body movements that night at the club. And you are a saint, too, for dancing with me in spite of my limitations to trip the light fantastic, as it were.
And the prof, believe it or not, does not follow sports. He's an artist, could care less about some big lunks cracking heads on a field.
Don't knock big lunks (on or off the field) or the women who love them. They come in handy from time to time, e.g., my apartment is a better place for my big lunk and his capacity for fixing stuff.
Ulysses is among the greatest works in the English language. Brilliant, every line of it.
Derivative tripe.
wow that's that then...
There are so many of us who love them. We should have like a "tape club" and take advantage of the thread bot to all watch the same EP together sometime.
It would be like the saddest orgy ever.
The first rule of Geek Club is "Never talk about Geek Club."
Harriet Miers buried Bush's preferential treatment getting into the TX Guard.
And the phony Greens we get here are just RNC bot trolls. They've got money to burn up in these petty irritating ratfucking efforts that have no evidence of effecting anything. Remember how they showed up the fall before the last election?
attaturk, watertiger, et al.
If you're familiar with Usenet try alt.binaries.multimedia.mst3k.
I got all the CC eps there. It may take awhile but you'll get what you're looking for.
.
Athenae has a post up about make-up and fragrances at First Draft.
It reminded me of
Make-Up Arts Cosmetics of Toronto, ONT.
Their products are supurb, all hypo-allergenic, and cruelty-free. In my years as a designer in the Theatre, I've often done complex make-up designs.
It's amazing how many folks have allergies to make-up ingredients... I found these folks while in Toronto, one summer, and use their products exclusively.
Their perfumes and colognes are awe-inspiring, non-alcohol based and positively unique...
M·A·C is currently providing makeup support to the following music tours:
Lee Ann Womack
Terri Clark
Black Eyed Peas
Tori Amos
Eighteen Visions
Pretty impressive, I'd say!
cheers!
-mf
Ulysses is among the greatest works in the English language. Brilliant, every line of it.
Worked great as a Porn too. Annie Sprinkle was fantastic...and only peed a little.
When I get back, I want to see somebody try a credible Merkin. (S)he's beyond my abilities and this little plan will finally reveal who this elusive punster is!
(Did I say that out loud?)
catalexis
Merkin revealed him/herself already.
Pie:
I wonder if all those who are continuing to proclaim that the White House flunkies are innocent of charges that they outted Plame realize that Joseph Wilson was right when he accused Bushco of deliberately exaggerating intelligence in the run-up to war.
You can't out someone who's already been outed by her husband (with the help of the usual Leftist suspects).
Worked great as a Porn too. Annie Sprinkle was fantastic...and only peed a little.
Was amazed how she worked the speculum into the plot.
if you will.
It would be like the saddest orgy ever.
The first rule of Geek Club is "Never talk about Geek Club."
We;re geeks. We can't help it.
Italians make the best mandolin players; whereas, Hawaiians excel at the ukulele.
The nutty Christians started at the school-board level and worked their way up. So should the Greens.
NYMary
The Libertarians are going the same route through local planning boards. And it has the benefit of allowing them to break every planning law for fun and profit.
No, wait. That was Karen Finley.
no...those were yams.
Merkin revealed him/herself already.
Details!!
Merkin revealed him/herself already.
Who is it? Dish!
res,
Not knocking big lunks (I was married to one, except that he wasn't handy)...although I do think the fact that professional football players and the like make big bucks is disturbing when people like you and are are making less than before...
The intensity is intriguing, but God, I think he needs a Franklin Planner or something because he doesn't have a good sense of time management, near as I can tell.
Could be the artist in him.
I know this story. yes a daily planner. and post-it notes inside the daily planner. and positive affirmations having to do with focus.
The first rule of Geek Club is "Never talk about Geek Club."
watertiger
LOL, I and my "Space Ghost Coast to Coast" DVD salute you.
Monkeyfister
Yeah, but did M*A*C have to design their lipstick cases to look like suppositories/little vibrators? It's really disturbing.
I have no need to defend Ulysses. When you've topped the achievement, call me.
(Maybe Salman Rushdie. Maybe.)
You can't out someone who's already been outed by her husband (with the help of the usual Leftist suspects).
Wilson. Did. Not. Out. Plame. You. Fucking. Stupid. Lying. Ass-spittle.
I have no need to defend Ulysses. When you've topped the achievement, call me.
I can't call you until then?
[pouts]
Who's their school board candidate? City Council? They running anyone for the state leg?
New York Green candidates.
New Jersey Green candidates.
Connecticut Green Candidates.
The nutty Christians started at the school-board level and worked their way up. So should the Greens.
NYMary
The Libertarians are going the same route through local planning boards. And it has the benefit of allowing them to break every planning law for fun and profit.
EPT | 10.08.05 - 11:22 am
All Republicans are stealth wingnuts. It's a cult.
You can't out someone who's...
Speaking of needing help. Delusional twit.
See you guys later.
Well, I'm out of bed, am wearing pants, and I guess I'd better go out and run my errands. See all y'all in a little while.
PS--You know I was kidding about Ulysses, right?
Who's their school board candidate? City Council? They running anyone for the state leg?
FOR President, silly
fy
Well, the original post was this:
VOTE GREEN
NOT "stay in Iraq" DEAN
and the other Bush enablers
I assume "bush enablers" means Dean on the DNC, senators and congressmen and women. So, who are the Greens running for congress? For Senate?
But more to the point, love 'em or hate 'em, the Dms have a national organization, at the grassroots. It's often at cross-purposes with its leadership, to be sure, but it's that grassroots organization that gets the vote out and wins elections.
How do you get a grassroots organization so you can win elections? You organize around local zoning issues, against corruption in city hall, for better county policies on the environment, and so forth. Talk to me in 20 years, after you do that.
Ulysses is among the greatest works in the English language. Brilliant, every line of it.
Derivative tripe.
I am compelled to ask:
derivitive of __________________?
NYMary - Rushdie indeed surpasses Joyce IMHO.
Plus, he's a lot easier to follow.
They are sanding away the thin
veneer of civilization.
Act by act,atrocity by atrocity,
they make it easier to hate and abuse those who are different.
It is by how we treat each other
that our civilization will be measured.In the long run technology
advancements are just bells and
whistles.These people call themselves
Christians,and they should know better.Our civilization will in the
long run be measured by our humanity.
Every case of torture,denial of civil
rights,and abandonment of our fellows
diminishes our humanity.
They are sanding away the thin veneer of Civilization,one layer at a time.
What will become "O.K." this week?
The thing about Bush's popularity being low is that all it really does for us is lower the enthusiasm of Congress for the worst of his lame-brained ideas.I guess this is OK, but so much damage has already been done that that's kind of cold comfort to me.
IF the end result of this is just that some Repug leaders will distance themselves from him and then push their own, perhaps slightly toned down version of the agenda of oligarchy, then we really haven't won anything here.
What we need to do is to take control of one house of Congress in 2006. If we can't do that, then we have completely lost, even if we end up with the presidency and the congress in 2008. Without a majority in one house in 2006, all we will get in 2008, even if we sweep the gov't, is the thankless task of cleaning up the devastation from the Bush years, with the Republican spin machine cranking full tilt to shift the blame on us as every one of those diseased chickens they have hatched comes home to roost. By the time we have gotten the country back on its feet again, they will be ready to take over again and do another mafia blowout on it. It is just too depressing.
If we can get just one house of congress in 2006, though, it's a whole different ballgame. Then, while these slimeballs are still in power, we can call them to account for all their crimes. We can demonstrate clearly that it is not just Dim Son, but the whole fucking Republican establishment that is rotten to the core. We can force the MSM to bear witness to the crimes, by launching one congressional investigation after another, which they will have no choice but to cover. We can force the Chimperor to veto one good, popular piece of legislation after another. In the end, he will be a broken shell of a man, and his whole movement will have been thoroughly discredited. Then, any later attempts by the Wurlitzer to pin all the trouble we're headed for because of their malfeasance will ring hollow, and perhaps people will start to really see that our way is the best way.
Well, that took a while to write, and I actually read the thread first, so I expect Threadbottie will have buried me by now, but there it is anyway....
Worked great as a Porn too. Annie Sprinkle was fantastic...and only peed a little.
Attaturk
And on that note, here's a humorous offering for this Saturday morn.
When you've topped the achievement, call me.
Perhaps "Patterson"? Not the sock troll, the work by Wm. Carlos Williams.
But it's a mighty high bar you've set there. The often pointed out point that the hero of the greatest piece of Irish literature is named Bloom is worth pointing out.
Merkin revealed him/herself already.
Who is it? Dish!
NTodd
Maybe they were lying...
I'll give you a hint... and it's a good one, the handle started with the letter "I"
I have no need to defend Ulysses. When you've topped the achievement, call me.
I can't call you until then?
[pouts]
NTodd
good morning laugh!
Ironically, the only harp player most people can name off the top of their heads was Jewish: Adolph/Arthur Marx.
NYMary
It takes longer to tune a harp than it does to tune a guitar.
PS--You know I was kidding about Ulysses, right?
I was counting on it.
We actually discussed this in one of my classes this week, and my kids wanted to know the other great novels. I offered them Heller, Faulkner, Rushdie, Robert Penn Warren.
Morning, Moonbats!
Speaking of needing help. Delusional twit.
See you guys later.
pie
Hey... at least he didn't join a gang. Instead he's addicted to trolling this board and deluding himself in to believing he adds something to all the boards he whines on.
SWR-- in the entire state of New York, the greens have 20 candidates for office. What's that, .0001% of the offices in the state?
(Maybe Salman Rushdie. Maybe.)
Rushdie is brilliant. Midnight's Children is amazing. But Joyce has historical awareness and linguistic pyrotechnics to boot...
I'd say "Maybe Thomas Pynchon."
BJ,
This site for MST3K goodies is fantastic, thank you so much.
My supplier went out of business about 3 years ago.
I'm holding out for Ulysses. But I'm of that generation that would. Patterson too.
Yes, but who is the Scary Vagina?
Worked great as a Porn too.
The judge disagreed. "Emetic, not aphrodisiac," he said.
I assume "bush enablers" means Dean on the DNC, senators and congressmen and women. So, who are the Greens running for congress? For Senate?
Maybe if the Democraic Party stopped supporting(almost overwhelming) the Bush agenda, would be a welcome start. Look at the major votes in the Senate the last 5 years and tell me it isn't true.
NYMary - Rushdie indeed surpasses Joyce IMHO.
Plus, he's a lot easier to follow.
Jennifer
that's a bit like comparing The Travelling Willburys to The Bulgarian Women's Choir I think..........the ol' apples & oranges argument........
De Kooning to Giotto, etc....
I was thinking Merkin was Walter Neff. But I have no idea who Walter Neff is.
I'd say "Maybe Thomas Pynchon."
rorschach
That's it! Good guess. I told you it started with an "I".
I'd say "Maybe Thomas Pynchon" is Merkin.
It takes longer to tune a harp than it does to tune a guitar.
Reminds me- you can tune a guitar but you can't tune a fish.
I'd say "Maybe Thomas Pynchon."
Well, Pynchon and Joyce sure have something in common. Their narratives are both incomprehensible.
Personally, I don't really want to work that hard to be told a story.....
Andrea Mitchell was talking to Loudmouth Matthews or Tim Russert or one of those guys when she basically copped to knowing who Valerie Plame was without Bob Novak's help.
It's all small-town gossip in D.C. I'm told.
Dang, I forgot Pynchon. Though I did tell the to Google "Greatest novels of the twenrtieth century," and I'm sure he's there.
I offered them Heller, Faulkner, Rushdie, Robert Penn Warren.
...Sidney Sheldon, Harold Robbins, Barbara Cartland, Danielle Steel...
Well, this argument about Greens is kinda pointless. I wish you all the luck in the world, seriously.
...Sidney Sheldon, Harold Robbins, Barbara Cartland, Danielle Steel...
Ah, the giants...
SWR-- in the entire state of New York, the greens have 20 candidates for office. What's that, .0001% of the offices in the state?
Moe Szyslak | Email | Homepage | 10.08.05 - 11:30 am | #
The Greens are only a small part of a potential third party movement.
You see it's core in DC last month.
The last time I checked, the Democrats never got a quarter of a million people in one place. True, some of the people there were Democrats, but it's also true, as you say, that the Democratic leadership is completely out of touch with its grassroots and small, radicalized groups can have an influence disproportionate to their numbers.
How do I know this?
Why didn't the Democrats acknowledge the anti-war march?
Because a small, radicalized group (International Answer) organized it.
okay n todd was kidding about ulysses being derivitive.........
but i thought I'd have some fun with the idea of 'derivitive' anyway.........
this morning's sunset was so 'derivitive'........
okay sunset is wrong but is the use of 'derivitive?'
I was thinking Merkin was Walter Neff. But I have no idea who Walter Neff is.
Moe Szyslak
Their breaks did coincide....
Who's King Leopold? We always thought it was Ba'al.
And, anyway, Wilson was feeding Corn this information as soon as Wilson and Plame decided to destroy their careers for the sake of their [patriotism].
Go out in a blaze of glory, Julius and Ethel!
Yes, but who is the Scary Vagina?
Scary Vagina
A frumpy housefrau in Hoboken named Gina Denton.
Thomas Pynchon?
meh...
I, ¡El Gato Negro! soured on Pynchon 300 pages eento "gravity's rainbow, at the coprophagic scene.
What a load of keety-leeter.
so.
I'm going to buy "Lost Continent" from this guy.
I need the "Hi Keeba" episode.
Reminds me- you can tune a guitar but you can't tune a fish.
Make sure to add sweet pickle and you can.
However, I've just had to write FIVE extremely cross and irate e-mails to people with websites who thought it was just jolly to lift great chunks of GWPDA and stick them onto their ratty old sites. I'm talking no acknowledgement at all, and not even vague attempts to pretend they did the work. And all of them presenting whole lists of Great War sites and -not bothering to include the one where they stole the information-. I mean Lord, to steal a link is one thing - to steal ten pages of carefully documented and acknowledged links AND the font coding????
No wonder I'm irate.
Personally, I don't really want to work that hard to be told a story.....
Well, we who pursue doctorates in literature are a weird bunch, I'll give you that...
Having a viable left-liberal 3rd party would be great for all of us. The dems would actually have to start caring about their liberal base because of the competition.
However, I don't see it happening anytime soon.
Toby,
Did you see my note the other night re your opposition to paying for IVF treatments for poor women and my opposition to paying for your obesity-related health care?
There's more to Irish literature than James Joyce.
But y'all know that already.
I offered them Heller, Faulkner, Rushdie, Robert Penn Warren.
...Sidney Sheldon, Harold Robbins, Barbara Cartland, Danielle Steel...
watertiger
anything with a glossy cover of a busty windswept heroine does it for me!
Well, Pynchon and Joyce sure have something in common. Their narratives are both incomprehensible.
Nah. Dubliners isn't. Nor are The Crying of Lot 49 or Mason & Dixon.
Go out in a blaze of glory, Julius and Ethel!
Here's the little sociopath talking about blazes again. Toby, tell everyone how funny you think it is to pour lighter fluid on dogs and set them on fire. Then, ESAD.
I will say, however, one good thing about Howard Dean. Remember when I got slammed by Pie and a couple of others for bringing up that Mexican immigrant massacre story.
Dean's issued a statement on it. None of the left leaning blogs have even mentioned it.
"Our thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families of the recent attacks against Hispanic immigrants in Georgia, as they cope with the senseless violence. No one, undocumented or otherwise, should ever have to fear for their safety because of their ethnicity or economic status. Democrats are committed to taking affirmative steps to promoting tolerance and understanding in America.
"I call on President Bush to use his photo-op with Hispanics today to condemn anti-immigrant violence, and to call on extremist members of his own party to end their anti-immigrant rhetoric and support for the Minutemen vigilante group, both of which are helping spread fear and hatred in America.
"The attacks are a sad reminder of how unconscionable it is that 8-11 million people are forced to live in the shadows in America, often abused and targeted for hate crimes, and too often lacking basic protections most of us take for granted. For tens of thousands of hard working immigrants who lost everything to Hurricane Katrina six weeks ago, that reality has also meant that they have received little or no relief in the wake of the storm.
"The Bush Administration can't celebrate Hispanic Heritage Month without making a legitimate attempt to pass a sound immigration reform policy for the Hispanic immigrants of today. President Bush has failed to enforce our immigration laws and continues to pass the buck to local and state officials. Real reform will now have to address how we bring those millions out of the shadows to end the violence, and to strengthen our national security. Hispanics know that America can do better. The onus is on President Bush."
No wonder I'm irate.
I'm sure if you could get a gander at term papers across this great nation, it'd piss you off even more.
Continuing in the series...
GWPDA,
I don't blame you for being angry. That sucks.
Reminds me- you can tune a guitar but you can't tune a fish.
Make sure to add sweet pickle and you can.
morning chuckle #2 !
PEOPLE THOUGHT MERKIN PATRIOT WAS ME, BUT I'M TOO STUBBLE TO WRITE SO LUSADLY LET ATONE SO HUBROUSLY.
There's more to Irish literature than James Joyce.
But y'all know that already.
Tena
Thers says that Irish lit without whiskey is transcendentalism. Emerson, specifically.
Tena,
My personal hobbyhorse is Irish women's lit. But that'll never get me hired, so.....
I need the "Hi Keeba" episode.
For weeksafter I saw that episode, I went around yelling "Hi Keeba!" at people.
Having a viable left-liberal 3rd party would be great for all of us. The dems would actually have to start caring about their liberal base because of the competition.
However, I don't see it happening anytime soon.
BlakNo1 | Email | Homepage | 10.08.05 - 11:37 am | #
The (obvious) problem is the winner take all system. There is a core for a third party here that resembles the Canadian NDP.
But the rules prevent it from gaining any traction in the electoral process.
SWR-- well, I've been to ANSWER marches, and I vote for Greens ocassionally.
And what you say about small radicalized parties is absolutely right.
I have nothing against the Greens. I just get the feeling that a great many people who call themselves Green don't want to do the hard work of organizing on the local level. It's as if a lot of these people think they should get elected simply because they have a nice platform, or say pretty things. It might be nice if the world worked that way, but it doesn't-- people want to see you in action, doing political work, governing. They want to trust you before putting more authority in your hands. And, alas, the Greens have a reputation, some of it greatly earned, for flakiness.
going thru my MST vids, and found a tape that has:
Godzilla v. Megalon
Gamera
Gamera v. Barugon
Thank GOD it's gonna rain tomorrow, too.
Where the Hell is Atrios?
I know there was a rumor he was going to spend Columbus day with the troops in Baghdad, maybe serve a fake meal at a messhall, but this is ridiculous.
Maybe if the Democraic Party stopped supporting the Bush agenda...Look at the major votes in the Senate the last 5 years and tell me it isn't true.
Ok, it isn't true. In fact, it's just plain bullshit. In 2002, we had some Senators caving, after their arms were about twisted out of their sockets in the face of looming midterm elections, on the war resolution and on the Patriot act. Since then, we have had a handful of our congresspeople cave in on things like the bankruptcty bill, NCLB, the medicare bill, and some trade legislation. but they got some concessions in return for their support.ANd a couple of those bills actually have good things in them, although we appear to have gotten punk'd on the enforcement of those provisions.
But in practically every other area of the vast body of legislation that has rolled through the congress in the last 5 years, we have held the line. That is a lot of bills, buddy. What about social security? What about the environment? What about those enregy bills, and ANWAR?
See, you are just plain full of shit. Maybe you don't know it, and maybe you are a troll. Personally, I don't care. Just shut the hell up please unless you have clear examples of what you are saying.
And, alas, the Greens have a reputation, some of it greatly earned, for flakiness.
That's what they get for running Nader.
It's as if a lot of these people think they should get elected simply because they have a nice platform, or say pretty things.
True and the opposite side of the coin is the way the Democrats are saying "we don't have to have a platform, just trust us and put us in power."
It points to a sickness in American politics.
I don't blame you for being angry. That sucks.
Hecate
Yes it does - cause it suggests that nobody has a clue any more about why plagiarism is a bad thing and why it ought not be done. We went to a lot of trouble in the beginning to set up the deal where you -asked- to set a link and you -gave- permission to do that, and the principle was that of the academic and footnoted world. I tell you, I was less irate when the silly man in the Philippines wrote and asked permission to copy the entire site and present it as his - at least he asked. I was less irate when I discovered the boys school in NZ had mirrored the site without permission - that was at least enterprising and they never pretended the material was theirs. Jeeze. This is just so tacky - and now I'm going to feel compelled to run the whole damn net to locate and then be irate at everybody doing it.
I wanted to go shopping today!
" I mean Lord, to steal a link is one thing - to steal ten pages of carefully documented and acknowledged links AND the font coding????
No wonder I'm irate.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar"
cool, very uncool.
PEOPLE THOUGHT MERKIN PATRIOT WAS ME, BUT I'M TOO STUBBLE TO WRITE SO LUSADLY LET ATONE SO HUBROUSLY.
Attaturk
We are all MERKIN. MERKIN is EVERYMAN and WOMAN, except Toby.
I know there was a rumor he was going to spend Columbus day with the troops in Baghdad, maybe serve a fake meal at a messhall, but this is ridiculous.
A stunned British Airways crew reported- can it be?- that Atrios' plane is en route for a surprise visit...
Tena,
My personal hobbyhorse is Irish women's lit. But that'll never get me hired, so.....
NYMary
One of my best friends is writing her diss on gender and the construction of the Irish nation, and she has a heartbreaking chapter on the Magdalene Asylums.
And she also does Irish dance at a nearly professional level.
Quite a woman.
watertiger --
One of our best "combo" tapes has
Agent from H.A.R.M.
Space Mutiny
Squirm
back-to-back. That's pretty much a greatest hits right there!
Godzilla v. Megalon
Gamera
Gamera v. Barugon
Thank GOD it's gonna rain tomorrow, too.
watertiger
Godzilla vs. Megalon is my favorite MST3k of all time. The movie, the skits (the Orville Popcorn skit) from start to finish the best one they made IMO -- and that's saying something.
...it also has the tradition little japanese boy dressed up like Jack Roberts so you should like it, "very much"
Good Morning Moonbats.
Rainy morning--had a lovely sleep in. Having a four year old, it's something I never get to do anymore.
*Ny Mary is nodding her head in complete understanding right now*
to steal ten pages of carefully documented and acknowledged links AND the font coding????
GWPDA- My wife has the same problem, so now she posts everything in PDF. You might give that a whirl-- they'd at least have to link to you.
rorschach,
Nifty. Tell er you know Mary Lavin scholar and watch her ask "Who's Mary Lavin?"
Where the Hell is Atrios?
Greensboro. Blogger ethics panel.
Goodbye Gamera!!!
I'm sure if you could get a gander at term papers across this great nation, it'd piss you off even more.
NYMary
nymary
my sister teaches high school
i called her one night and she was on a fruitless search to find the actual author of a paper one of her students submitted
Frank Sinatra married Harpo's widow. No one knows why.
That's what they get for running Nader.
Tena | Email | Homepage | 10.08.05 - 11:43 am | #
The Greens didn't run Nader in 2004.
2000 yes.
Oh, btw, who did the Democrats run in 2000 (as their VP canidate)?
What does that say about them?
Attaturk,
Which is the one where the weird kid in the Jack Roberts shorts rides that freaky blow-up water toy? I think it's the one with the alien Oscar Wilde and Jet Jaguar, too.
Frank Sinatra married Harpo's widow. No one knows why.
Lime Rickey
Every time he touched her right, she honked a horn.
NY Mary, I am very ashamed to say that I have never read any Irish women's lit. Could you recommend a starting place?
(sadly, I know in my heart that collected works of one Maeve Binchey doesn't count)
PEOPLE THOUGHT MERKIN PATRIOT WAS ME, BUT I'M TOO STUBBLE TO WRITE SO LUSADLY LET ATONE SO HUBROUSLY.
Attaturk
But you might have to be TURKAN PATRIOT...
Attaturk,
Which is the one where the weird kid in the Jack Roberts shorts rides that freaky blow-up water toy? I think it's the one with the alien Oscar Wilde and Jet Jaguar, too.
NYMary
Same one NYMary, Godzilla vs. Megalon.
It's a classic.
It stinks!
Nah. Dubliners isn't. Nor are The Crying of Lot 49 or Mason & Dixon.
Aight, then. How about their most famous and celebrated narratives are incomprehensible? You know what I mean!
Every time he touched her right, she honked a horn.
Every tmie he touched her right, she honked his horn.
Hey, everyone, CHALLENGE is finished (fanfare in the distance and the writer takes a small bow I just hope some people buy it and like it.)
GWPDA, the problem with stealing from the internet is that the venues are so strange it might be hard to prosecute. But I would suggest pointed letters to the ISPs.
I think it's the one with the alien Oscar Wilde and Jet Jaguar, too.
Isn't that Megalon?
But the rules prevent it from gaining any traction in the electoral process.
Not entirely, withholding our votes from the Democrats will continue to hurt them in State and National elections. maybe they will finally get the message. I think in many states 5-10% are not going to vote Democratic ever again. Are you people serious about candidates like Biden, Bayh and Clinton?
Every time he touched her right, she honked a horn.
Precedent for the upcoming Anna Nicole SCOTUS case.
"his is just so tacky - and now I'm going to feel compelled to run the whole damn net to locate and then be irate at everybody doing it."
had a dealer approach us about carrying some of our company's products...sent him some lit and assumed he'd use it to build into his website...instead, he just cut and pasted everything we had on our site...no authorship cite, copyright, photo cerdits, nothing...
earl,
Most students don't do more than cut and paste from websites, so a Google search of a suspicious phrase or sentence is likely to get her what she wants.
It's also useful to remember that the onus is on the student. One of my fave tactics is to choose sentences at random, take out crucial words, and ask students to fill them in. That works pretty well.
Condi can play the melody to "You Are My Sunshine" on the piano with her left tit.
Lime Rickey
I bet her right one's jealous.
It stinks!
Channeling Jay Sherman?
rorschach,
Nifty. Tell er you know Mary Lavin scholar and watch her ask "Who's Mary Lavin?"
NYMary
I shall, but I cannot guarantee that result. She's very, very smart and well-read.
Moe Szyslak - alas, no. All that happens is that you copy the .pdf to your site - no external link necessary. Yes, you can tag them - but damn, 9/10s of the stuff on GWPDA are text or images that are cited very clearly, so if somebody's stealing they're going to steal anyway. It's not as tho I've ever denied a link to anybody. It's just so shabby.
And the matter of plagiarism within the academic community is almost certainly infinitely worse than it was when I did that stuff - at least then when anybody plagiarised British Empire stuff it was pretty apparent. It's very hard to pretend that you, as a junior, write with quite the same style as AJP Taylor or Robinson and Gallagher...
genoasail,
Try the Country Girls trilogy by Edna O'Brien. Or anything by Edna O'Brien, really. I love her.
GWPDA?
GHERKIN PATRIOT.
I'm off to the races.
Godzilla vs. Megalon..
...and that was just a tiny piece of fingernail!
One of my best friends is writing her diss on gender and the construction of the Irish nation, and she has a heartbreaking chapter on the Magdalene Asylums.
I went to an interesting reading/performance at the 'Huron County Gaol' in Goderich, Ontario last summer.
The last surviving (now a historical site)1800's era prison in Ont.
A poet wrote a book about an Irish immigrant (based on county and asylum archives) who went 'insane' and was the first woman incarcerated in Huron County.
they left hunger to find more hunger, exhaustion and poverty in canada. the woman fell in the river in january washing clothes and fell ill; also with a deep depression--
the poet's boyfriend is an ambient musician and he and his co-creator played their laptops in the gloom of the jailyard as sun fell and the bats swooped. They were joined by a cello player as the poet read.
very interesting night.
Not entirely, withholding our votes from the Democrats will continue to hurt them in State and National elections.
I'm not in favor of withholding votes from the Democrats. I'm going to get my ass out and vote for Corzine this year. And I'll probably vote for Hillary or Biden or Edwards or whatever pro-war Democrat they put up in 2008.
What I am in favor of is withholding grassroots support and fundraising from the Democrats. Kerry has no clue that he came as close as he did in 2004 because of his grassroots, not himself. It's better to put money and resources into single issue campaigns, anti-war campaigns, Naral, groups like that.
Now I suppose this does make me a troll and I could get banned for it since it's opposed to the mission of this site. If so, so be it. But that's really the way I feel about it.
I'm going to vote for Biden or Hillary in 2008. But they won't get a dime from me or any time above the time I take to vote.
That was Jennifer Beals.
Who is now one of the stars of Showtime's lesbian soap opera, "The L Word."
Oh Merkin, PI, stop gherkin me around. I'm irate!
If you really start to analyze the Green platform, it's actually kind of scary. I mean, I can get with them on issues of foreign policy, but as far as the rest goes, the are more like the Reds than the Greens. The party is laden with Watermelons -- green on the outside, red on the inside.
I really, really don't want to have a cultural revolution here in the USA, you know? I'm sorry, but there is a strong strain of anti-technology sentiment in that party that makes me think about Pol Pot. I don't want to go to jail for splicing DNA molecules......
Frank Sinatra married Harpo's widow.
Wasn't it Zeppo's widow?
GWPDA,
Yes and no. Had a funny conversation with a colleague yesterday who said a student plagiarized a personal essay in a freshman writing class. Weird. How did she know? He used the word "inveigle."
But they mostly steal from the same sources, and so it's pretty easy to find.
In 1976, Frankie weds again, to Barbara Marx, former wife of Marx Brother Zeppo. The fourth time was the charm: The couple remained together until Sinatra's death more than two decades later.
And, IIRC, she was still married to Zeppo while Frank was romancing her.
I don't know-- this Merkin, PI fellow comes around saying he knows who Merkin Patriot is, then leaves without saying. Did in fact Merkin reveal himself? If so, when, and who is he?
Democrats in the house should cry shame everyday
Death of Rats!
Haven't seen you in a long time. "Death of Rats" and "mmmm...sultry" are my two favorite Atriot names.
And, IIRC, she was still married to Zeppo while Frank was romancing her.
I'm sure that was true of a lot of the women Frank romanced.
I really, really don't want to have a cultural revolution here in the USA, you know? I'm sorry, but there is a strong strain of anti-technology sentiment in that party that makes me think about Pol Pot.
You went from legitimate criticism to David Horowitz in one paragraph.
What about social security? What about the environment? What about those enregy bills
There hasn't been a vote on Social Security.
The environment- you must be kidding me.
Check out what has been done. Clean Air bill and the Healthy forest bills.
The energy bill backed by Bush, Cheney,and Delay passed with over 90 votes in the Senate. Please!
Frank Sinatra married Harpo's widow.
Wasn't it Zeppo's widow?
footlooseandfancyfree
Zeppo's widow?
Isn't that like marrying "and the Rest"?
And with that, fortunately for all of you, I'm off to actually work for a while.
Good day and Ba'al Bless.
You can't out someone who's already been outed by her husband (with the help of the usual Leftist suspects).
What utter bullshit, who does your research, lunchbox?
Democrats in the house should cry shame everyday
you mean like they just did as the latest oil refinery giveaway bill was passed without them being able to do a damn thing about it?
They are really not that spineless, people! Give them a fucking break! Save your ruthless criticisms for when they actually have some power!
Amerasian Guy,
Toby gets his research from LGF. Best to ignore it, really.
If you really start to analyze the Green platform, it's actually kind of scary.
Democrats:
War: F
Economic Issues: C
Environment: C
Cultural Issues: B last year. C- this year.
Civil Liberties: D+
Okay, I'm off to take Young Thersites to see the anxiouslt awaited Wallace and Gromit: Curse of the Were-Rabbit. Later, my beloved 'bats!
Save your ruthless criticisms for when they actually have some power!
I largely do. They controlled the Senate when they voted for the war.
I'm sure that was true of a lot of the women Frank romanced.
NYMary
As Marilyn Monroe once said about Frank Sinatra, "He's no Joe DiMaggio!"
.
speaking of ''appropriation'
I once wrote a poem about roy lichenstein and 'appropriated' other obits from the same day his ran...
so you had this very unique character with quite the varied 'career(s)'
the only review of the book referred to how I wrote about Roy Lichenstein's fabulous and varied life..........
!!!!!! the reviewer didn't get it!!!
Amerasian Guy: so what if 7-11 is "Japanese-owned?" Corporations know no nationality; they are nations unto themselves. And Lindy's right: NYC is fast becoming just another suburban strip mall, losing all its character to the big chains.
Oh, and take some well-meant advice: we'll never, never be pure enough for SWR, so there's not a lot of point in that either, unless you enjoy it.
Bye!
One of the big problems re: Democrats is the almost complete media blackout on their actions.
The right-wing media has almost single-handedly created a one-party state with their calculated coverage.
I would never have even known about the Conyers Downing St. Memo hearing, let alone watched it, if not for this board. And then I had to find CSPAN Umpteen on my cable before I could even see it.
Were-rabbits?
Frank Sinatra married Harpo's widow.
Wasn't it Zeppo's widow?
footlooseandfancyfree
Did Zeppo play the harp too?
Death of Rats? You still hanging around with Quoth?
(no small notes of congratulations? 
)
Oh, and take some well-meant advice: we'll never, never be pure enough for SWR, so there's not a lot of point in that either, unless you enjoy it.
Actually it's the other way around.
The anti-war march in DC two weeks ago wasn't "pure" enough for the Democrats.
Had they purified it by purging the Communists and ultra leftists, we might have got a visit by Dean or Feingold or one of them.
But they mostly steal from the same sources, and so it's pretty easy to find.
NYMary
Apologies for butting in (but it's a public forum, so...), but it always amazes me that they don't figure out:
If they can find it via Google, you can, too. And about as easily.
Like my Crim Law professor always said: They don't catch the smart ones.
If so, when, and who is he?
Moe Szyslak
Once revealed by a name change slip up. Those who know are sworn not to name names!
"They are really not that spineless, people! Give them a fucking break! Save your ruthless criticisms for when they actually have some power!"
Yes they are spineless and unprincipled. Why was the principle for the dems who passed the bankrupcy bill, confirmed Gonzolez, Rice, Roberts. Where is the democratic spine when Bush let Rove,who is being investigated run Katrina Fund. If the tables were turned, repubs would not support anything dems did and would be howling for impeachment hearings. They would have use the fact that Face the Nation had 3 republicans and 0 dems to scream about the imbalance of the media. Dems are too wimpy for that.
One of the big problems re: Democrats is the almost complete media blackout on their actions.
Speaking in front of 300,000 people would have gotten them a shitload of media attention.
For those of us who missed it, DWD, please explain your recent accomplishment...?
Plagiarism: My favorite story is that a friend of mine retrieved a term paper from the fraternity's archives and turned it in: he was busted. The professor whom he turned it into, wrote the paper as an undergraduate.
Apologies for butting in (but it's a public forum, so...), but it always amazes me that they don't figure out:
If they can find it via Google, you can, too. And about as easily.
Most hilarious attempt at plagiarism I've encountered: The student ordered a paper from some online service, and turned it in...
With the fax cover sheet still on it.
Speaking in front of 300,000 people would have gotten them a shitload of media attention.
Hey, I'm not excusing a total lack of cojones. Just sayin'.
Once revealed by a name change slip up. Those who know are sworn not to name names!
A Fellow Atriot
Ah, you with the fake e-mail address. Please e-mail me, I have something to show you...
rorschach,
Overheard from a colleagues' office: "The paper can't be plagiarized! I paid good money for it!"
And just before heading out:The Were-Rabbit.
(no small notes of congratulations? )
DWD
HUGE note of congrats DWD.
I meant to say it earlier.
congratulations on finishing the book.
I wish you well with it.
Had they purified it by purging the Communists and ultra leftists, we might have got a visit by Dean or Feingold or one of them.
Had they focused it by declining to waste valuable podium time on Communists and ultra leftists, we might have got a visit by Dean or Feingold or one of them.
Crap!
My local NBC outlet is reporting that over 1,000 people have died in the earthquake in the Pakistani part of Kashmir.
The preliminary AP story is here
NYMary
did you see my post re: Lichenstein?
I thought you'd appreciate that.
Capital J, In 1994 I wrote a book called CHALLENGE. My agent assured me it would be an international best-seller. The book is intriguing and hard to put down. It languished for years while my agent went on to bigger and better things: Reality TV shows and the like.
With the publication of my book, SILENT SCREAMS OF A SURVIVOR a year or so ago, the publisher assured me that she would consider some of my fiction. CHALLENGE was submitted and accepted. For the last eight weeks I have been going through the book for the first time in three years.
This morning I finished the rewrite. I will submit it to the publisher later this day. It is a good feeling.
(My rewrite from two years ago includes many many very pointed references to the evils of the current administration)
Thanks for asking. Rewriting (and adding 3000 words) 96,000 words is a large task
If Condi knew how to play the guitar, she could teach Chimpy how to play his new guitar, and they could play together in their downtime.
Pfui on the whole lot of them. I tell you, we used to steal code from each other all the time - do you remember the first time you made an HTML table? - but stealing information and not having enough common sense to strip out the < H 4 > and < / i > stuff is just beyond stupid. It's also an indicator of such extreme laziness and shamelessness as to be a little scary.
I'm going to go buy me a double wide ironing board. That'll show 'em.
NYMary
From the still in that article alone it looks like fun.
Plagiarism: My favorite story is
Junior High Book Reports. The stupidiest girl in class is in front reading her book report..."The story is about Johnny and continued on back flap his dog who went on a ...."
Abso effin lutely true. Naturally we all started laughing our asses off. Kids can be cruel. Priceless.
Congrats DWD!!
But I am a bit disappointed,
nobody managed to summon up a
There Rabbit!!!!
DWD -- !!!!!
res:
Did you see my note the other night re your opposition to paying for IVF treatments for poor women and my opposition to paying for your obesity-related health care?
Yes. It was very thoughtful. Turns out, though, that I am employed and productive. My proposal was intended for those who are not and probably never will be.
But thanks for the effort.
"Just Because"
Watertiger! Too funny. Rush Limbaugh never looked so good!
(no small notes of congratulations? )
DWD
A big note of congratulations from here, DWD.
As a writer who hates revising, I know what an accomplishment that is.
When is the tentative publication date?
Actually I agree with SWR about the democrats.
actually I'm surprised more Democrats didn't rush to join the national guard and volunteered for Iraq after Hillary said we 'needed' more troops.....
however I also note that SWR said he'd vote for a Democrat.........
I suppose I would too...
with a grim expression...
unless it was barbara lee or someone like that...
SWR - I don't equate Lieberman's particular brand of lunacy with Nader's.
And i wasn't specific as to when the Greens ran Nader, I just that's what they get for doing it. At any time.
If you're saying that somehow Nader is preferable to Lieberman, I'd say that's pretty much a wash.
And goddamn - since when did VP 's exercise the kind of crushing power the preznit does? Lieberman would have been more harmless as VP than he is as a senator.
Did Zeppo play the harp too?
That I do not know but checking him out says that he and Barbara were married from '59-73 and then divorced. He died in 79. How is she considered the widow?
Congrats, DWD! I greatly admire (and envy) anyone who writes and publishes a book. I know it takes a lot of hard work and dedication.
Thanks everyone, it is a labor of love: trust me. (Getting a chance to sharpen my dirk and inserting it gleefully into the lying son of a bitches is as good as it gets)
A, had a kid steal the teachers' manual for the workbook. He turned his workbook in with "ANSWERS WILL VARY" inserted into the appropriate places.
Plagiarism: My favorite story is
Junior High Book Reports. The stupidiest girl in class is in front reading her book report..."The story is about Johnny and continued on back flap his dog who went on a ...."
aw....I feel kind of sorry for her......who said thousands of hours of tv can't produce independent thinkers anyway?
Thanks, res!
This post, as always, 100% content free!
Are these people just flat out determined to eradicate any and every hope of a democratic society? Or are they just so g-d bone ignorant that they can't figure out the connexion between home ownership and a shot at a better, more stable, middle class life?
"http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-
taxbreak8oct08,0,1112971.story?coll=la-home-
headlines
Tax Reformers Eye Breaks for Housing
Mortgage deductions and other benefits are costing more than forecast. With a rising federal budget deficit, they may be scaled back.
By David Streitfeld
Times Staff Writer
October 8, 2005
Just as the nation's housing boom appears to be slowing, debate is starting among policymakers about reining in one of the most sacred cows of American public policy: the mortgage-interest deduction and other generous tax benefits granted to homeowners.
A presidential commission on tax reform will take up the subject for the first time Tuesday. "Everything's on the table," said Charles Rossotti, a panel member who was commissioner of internal revenue from 1997 to 2002.
The mortgage-interest deduction saved homeowners $61.5 billion last year. No one expects the commission to recommend its elimination.
Instead, the panel may consider scaling back the deduction for mortgage interest on second homes or home-equity loans, and changing the deduction for property taxes, among other things.
The stakes in such a discussion are huge.
Changing the tax benefits for homeowners, even if done slowly, could cause short-term convulsions in the market as buyers recalculate what they can afford. The tumult could be most pronounced for homeowners in states with the highest home prices, such as California. In the long term, housing could become more affordable as some of the stimulus that has sent prices soaring is removed.
..."
SQUEAK.
DWD What a marvelous accomplishment. Congratulations.
Diane, I am hoping the book will be available for holiday giving. (at least that is the plan. The publisher now has to edit: and, unfortunately, I need editing. Damned mistakes procreate prodigiously while lying in unpublished text)
more troops are needed in iraq
your kids not mine-
hillary clinton
My local NBC outlet is reporting that over 1,000 people have died in the earthquake in the Pakistani part of Kashmir.
I question the timing. After all, at some point in the next few weeks, Fitzgerald may or may not hand down indictments against Karl Rove. But it's a two-fer, see: it also allows the International Jew Conspiracy to deflect attention away from their dynamiting of the levees in New Orleans.
Thanks, NY Mary. It's a good weekend to stay in and read.
In college I once copied someone else's work for an assignment I was totally clueless on. The teacher called me on it and I insisted it was my own work. That was decades ago and I still feel bad about it.
That I do not know but checking him out says that he and Barbara were married from '59-73 and then divorced. He died in 79. How is she considered the widow?
footlooseandfancyfree
I don't make the rules.
But I am a bit disappointed,
nobody managed to summon up a
There Rabbit!!!!
EkCenTriK
Hey Ek, you did see that one English community prevented the advertising of the film because they have a taboo against saying "rabbit" or "bunny"?
SWR - I don't equate Lieberman's particular brand of lunacy with Nader's.
I don't either.
Nader's a egotistical flake.
Lieberman's an apologist for mass murder and ethnic cleansing.
No comparison.
I'm going to go buy me a double wide ironing board. That'll show 'em.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar
morning chuckle #3
And goddamn - since when did VP 's exercise the kind of crushing power the preznit does?
Uh, Cheney?
Well, now Thers has decided to go to the later show. Poo.
Another wacky cheating story. Pop quiz. First question: Who is that narrator of story X?
Answer: the name of the girl sitting in front of him. Apparently, that's the first thing *she* wrote down.
But thanks for the effort.
Trust me, Toby. Even if you are employed and productive at this moment, your medical expenses will turn out to be my problem as soon as you become disabled or turn 65, whichever is first.
"Employed and productive." LOL!
What an incredible coincidence!
http://today.reuters.com/news/ne...S-BUSH-
LEAK.xml
One man's trash is another man's treasure.
Hey Ek, you did see that one English community prevented the advertising of the film because they have a taboo against saying "rabbit" or "bunny"?
rorschach
Pour quoi? Or is this a "The Spy Who Shagged Me" sort of thing?
That I do not know but checking him out says that he and Barbara were married from '59-73 and then divorced. He died in 79. How is she considered the widow?
footlooseandfancyfree
I don't make the rules.
Lime Rickey
"We're gonna need a squad of top-notch investigators to get on this marx widow sinatra link thing pronto'
'gotcha chief'
SWR - oh come on - Cheney and Bush are the exception and everyone knows it.
Jesus - that was really too much...
DWD,
congratulations. that is a huge accomplishment. i look forward to seeing it and the stores and buying it.
'gotcha chief'
earl in
"Right, McCloud."
We still doing the MST thing?
I heard Harry Connick, Jr. complaining last night on the TV about how he doesn't want "all these illegal immigrants" coming into New Orleans to take the reconstruction jobs.
As if the crackheads and Oprah-watchers lying around waiting for the next check from Uncle Sucker are going to get up and start hammering up some boards!
He died in 79. How is she considered the widow?
Grass.
That was decades ago and I still feel bad about it.
I 'made up' books to review in high school. some of them were zingers. teacher graded paper. never asked to see book.
As if the crackheads and Oprah-watchers lying around waiting for the next check from Uncle Sucker are going to get up and start hammering up some boards!
Toby Petzold
Kill yourself, racist scum.
Cue A Mighty Wind...
Happy weekend everyone. Late last night someone posted this on one of the open threads, related to the House's shame shame shame moment:
I swear, Pelosi should call a news conference and run some of that for the cameras. She must still be able to pull a favor or two from one of the networks.
My answer to that: after seeing how CNN and the networks ignored Pelosi's response to Bush's Alpah Male War Monger speech last week, I don't hold out any hope of that. Pelosi gave a very articiulate, pointed rebuttal to Bush's speech on the Iraq war and CNN aired ONE SENTENCE of it. The NBC Nightly News aired ONE SENTENCE of it (albeit a different sentence so lucky me, I got to see to sentences).
When the corporate media ignores the voices of Democrats in such a blatant, obvious way, we have no hope of getting the truth out to the American people about anything.
The fairness doctrine is dead, the "liberal" media doesn't exist, Nancy Pelosi could dance naked on a table top and CNN would refuse to cover it.
I had held out a small hope that Howard Dean's "controversial" image would interest the media enough to where he wouild get a little coverage in the MSM but that's dead, too.
We've been muzzled, no one wants to hear from us. So fuck them, you get your war, your tax cuts, your broken levees, your Bushvilles courtesy of FEMA.
I always wonder about the humanity of someone who would use the fact of a huge tragedy to make a snarky remark.
:::shudder:::
Pour quoi? Or is this a "The Spy Who Shagged Me" sort of thing?
NYMary
I blogged on it here, but here's the gist:
EVEN the fertile imagination of Nick Park, the creator of Wallace and Gromit, would have difficulty making this up.
Posters for his new animated feature film Wallace & Gromit: The Curse of the Were Rabbit have been banned from the Isle of Portland, Dorset, because of a local superstition.
For more than 100 years the word “rabbit” has been considered taboo and locals refer instead to “underground mutton” or just “furry things”.
What, no cats?
"underground mutton"?!?
I heard Harry Connick, Jr. complaining last night on the TV about how he doesn't want "all these illegal immigrants" coming into New Orleans to take the reconstruction jobs.
What program was this on, Toby? I liked to see the transcript to make sure you didn't miscontrue...oh hell...make this up. You neo cons have been known to do this. Just in case you were wondering, it seems that you may be implying that minorities take up the greatest share of welfare. That's untrue. The greatest recipients of welfare are poor whites. Thought I let you know.
Media/election reform.
Without these, everything else is just cloud talk.
I 'made up' books to review in high school. some of them were zingers.
Ah yes, "Clifftop Tragedy" by Eileen Dover, that was my favorite ...
I'm not going to get into the particulars of my life to demonstrate to you why you are wrong, madam, but the issue of my health is of no concern to you, financial or otherwise.
You may think that your superior professional status entitles you to talk down to me, but that's a flaw in your character, not mine.
He died in 79. How is she considered the widow?
Grass.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar
"Dano after you check the court papers I'd like you to investigate the time-space thing.... then you can 'book' somebody....'
SWR - oh come on - Cheney and Bush are the exception and everyone knows it.
Jesus - that was really too much...
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I think that Lieberman's views on Israel and the war are largely the views of most of the Democrats.
Remember, Gore's early mentor at Harvard was Marty Peretz. In some ways, Gore's a neocon who went off the reservation.
True, Gore isn't as bad as Lieberman and we don't know how he would have voted on the war. But we do know how Kerry and Edwards and Hillary Clinton did. And it was the same as Lieberman.
Anyway, the issue stays the same. Calling Nader ineffectual is fine. Calling him crazy is a bit off when you compare him to the craziness of voting for the war in Iraq.
Shits, y'all.
Please ignore fuckhead Toby.
Thank you.
I 'made up' books to review in high school
Wow. That is truly creative (no snark intended).
For more than 100 years the word “rabbit” has been considered taboo and locals refer instead to “underground mutton” or just “furry things”.
Is that like "long pig?"
Without the prevailing wage law, no one but illegals can afford to take those reconstruction jobs.
I guess FEMA thinks people who lost everything should be happy earning $4.50 an hour, but the poverty rate is $8 an hour.
Just more ways Bush has created to screw the working people while giving handouts to corporate america.
Curse Of The Underground Mutton, what a cool title!
I am almost certain he was talking to Loudmouth Matthews, Monica.
Not incidentally, I'm getting a little tired of people calling me a liar. You may not like what I say, but I don't deliberately lie. I don't say things without considering them. Maybe that's a novelty among you, but at least pretend that you are familiar with honorable discourse.
Is that like "long pig?"
Or "the Scottish play"?
Chris Rock to Ann Coulter: "You just make shit up doncha?
We can apply this statement to Toby as well. I'm finished with my troll appetizer. Take it away!
And I present (character counter limited) the first portion of CHALLENGE.
“Class, remember always that the perception of reality is as important as reality itself. This need for either reality, or a presumed reality, becomes self-perpetuating and self-fulfilling. It isn't that something is or is not real – for in the end that doesn't matter as long as we believe it to be accurate. As we go through our day to day existence, we constantly create reality through our perceptions: interpretive actions based upon our own experiences.” The old man brushed his white hair from his forehead, re-seated his glasses, and studied the lecture hall intensely. He noted the students were simply a passive audience bent over their laptop computers, scribbling madly in their notebooks, and a few with recording devices listening. These were his favorites, at least they were capable of listening. He continued, “Let me repeat that. I said our perceptions of our individual experiences are the important thing.
“We see these experiences through an interpretive action that is ours and ours alone. The truth is: there is no one reality – there are only interpretations of reality. Given that there are nearly 200 people in this room, I assume that what I have just said, has been interpreted at least 200 different ways. I say at least, because I too have to couch what I perceive within the realm my own peculiar experiences.
“Given another day, another lecture hall, and another group of students; I would probably not say the same thing. I don't know that I would not. In fact, it would be my task to address you in the same way. But I am not sure this is possible . . . or even desirable. At any given moment there is a nexus of our lives and experiences. Once that moment has passed, it is simply not possible to bring it back again.
“But, and this is important, just because we do not see things exactly in the same way, there is adequate commonality to allow us to function as a society. The problem comes when we‘re led to conclusions that are either in error or foregone conclusions desired by someone else choosing to manipulate information for their own purposes. In the end, less and less of our world is subject to our interpretation and instead is controlled for us. Who would do such a thing? If you ask yourself this question honestly, you will know. The answer is that obvious. This realization is the reality I speak of: the rest is bullshit.” The expletive reverberated around the room absorbing whatever noise was present until there was complete silence.
The old man placed his glasses on the lectern and continued. “Who controls what we see? What we hear? And last of all what our reaction to that information should be? We venture each day into territory that is unexplored. We base our reactions to such ventures on a reality we presume to be our own. But is it? The truth is that this reality may be one chosen for us since we were children.
At least everyone knows who and what Lieberman is - there is no attempt to seem otherwise.'
With Nader, you have someone who pretends to be progressive, but who lives off his enormous portfolio and does things like show up at the Schiavo debacle to stand in support of Tom Delay.
I have to go get dressed. I have some errands.
Ah yes, "Clifftop Tragedy" by Eileen Dover, that was my favorite ...
Litz
" As I stared at the alien paratroopers coming down like rain i couldn't help but reflect on my chance meeting with Rene Magritte years earlier..."
pg.43-Clifftop Tragedy
by Eileen Dover
...but the issue of my health is of no concern to you, financial or otherwise.
Ah, but it will be, Toby. It will be. And because it will be in the future, it is now.
(continued)
“Our parents contribute to the assumption that we were of free will, as their parents did. Our teachers perpetuate the idea, because they know no other way. Finally, in our lives those people who employ us enforce the strictures of their acceptable version of reality until we become blinded to both its nature and the ramifications of its existence. But is this correct?
“Now, we are damned with a media that constantly parrots the talking points of the current administration without regard to either the worthiness or the truthfulness of these points. In essence, they have muddied the waters of reality until we are left searching for truth without a framework for judging this same truth.
“For the past year I have been away from this fine institution examining the ramifications of the loss of our collective memories. It is a fascinating study as it appears that – with the help of our corporate controlled media – we may have irrevocably lost our ability to discern truth from fiction. Truth is, we seem to have lost our ability to place information into the equation that differentiates from reality and wishful thinking. Information that we need to tell fact from fiction has been lost or kept hidden from us for purposes that are clear to some and an enigma to most..
“If we only believe what we want to believe, or what someone tells us to believe – whether it is truthful or not – we are doomed. I do not say such things lightly. In fact, I think this particular moment in our collective history is the most dangerous of all that we have faced before this time. We are in supreme danger of losing not only our freedom, but the concept of individualism that is the basis for freedom.
“Certainly an attack like the one on September 11th was a major blow to our collective psyches, but should this relatively minor incident result in a grievous wound to our national identity? Not in my estimation. But apparently it has and we have no qualms about condemning and killing in the name of freedom – with the heinous methods of a tyrant.
You may think that your superior professional status entitles you to talk down to me, but that's a flaw in your character, not mine.
P.S. Do not project all your little insecurities on to me, Toby.
...I don't deliberately lie. I don't say things without considering them. Maybe that's a novelty among you, but at least pretend that you are familiar with honorable discourse.
Toby Petzold
Lying scum.
Monica:
Just in case you were wondering, it seems that you may be implying that minorities take up the greatest share of welfare. That's untrue. The greatest recipients of welfare are poor whites. Thought I let you know.
Share? If, by share, you mean proportion, then you are wrong. Racial minorities are disproportionately aided by the Government. The only way in which you would be right would be in terms of absolute numbers.
Just thought you should know.
Not incidentally, I'm getting a little tired of people calling me a liar.
And you are forced to stay here and be called "liar" by whom, exactly?
"honorable discourse" in this context = "underground mutton."
fresh sheets
Now, now, Monica A. Toby's a white, Southern, male adherent to the party of racism, homophobia, and theocracy. You're, well, not any of those things.
Go get him a cup of coffee, dollface.
Toady,
same goes for the single malt whiskey alcoholics. so... what's your point?
-J.T.
Oh wait! There's a little bit more meat on the bone. Toby, the difference between your party and mine is that your party talks about honorable discourse while my party actively engages in it. In case it has slipped your mind as to all the lies your compadres have told, let me give you a greatest hits:
1. Bill Clinton was part of a cocaine cartel that ordered the murders of federal agents.
2. Bill Clinton raped Hillary Rodham-Clinton, thus Chelsea's conception.
3. Bill Clinton raped Broderick and attempted to rape Wiley.
4. John Kerry beat his first wife.
5. If elected, John Kerry will ban sales of the Bible
The list goes on and on and on, but needless to say, Toby, it's a proven fact that the people you choose to align yourself with politically are known to bend the truth. So you will have to forgive me if I don't automatically take your word as the God's honest truth.
...but the issue of my health is of no concern to you, financial or otherwise.
Res:
Ah, but it will be, Toby. It will be. And because it will be in the future, it is now.
Well, if you're so keen for my health, then I got a few kinks you can come and work out right now.
(Don't worry, you'll get a receipt for your bookkeeper.)
fy,
You really are a a fucking twit!
RE:
There hasn't been a vote on Social Security.
Ah-Duuuh! That's because the Dems killed it before it ever got to a floor vote!
RE:
The environment- you must be kidding me.
Check out what has been done. Clean Air bill and the Healthy forest bills.
After successfully staving off this legislation in 2002, the Senate Dems worked out a compromise that they were willing to support. It was much toned-down from the egregiously bad bill proposed by the Bushies. I think the House strill had like 180 votes against.
The energy bill backed by Bush, Cheney,and Delay passed with over 90 votes in the Senate. Please!
Please? You're a lying sack of shit! The energy bill backed by Bush and Cheney bore little resemblance to the bill that passed 84-12, not by over 90 votes (you liar) in the Senate. The conference version, which was still pretty far from what got proposed by the Bushies, passed by 74-26 (you liar). Again, the House had 183 nay votes on this legislation.
You clearly have no understanding whatsoever of how government in this country works. So FOAD now, K?
Share? If, by share, you mean proportion, then you are wrong. Racial minorities are disproportionately aided by the Government. The only way in which you would be right would be in terms of absolute numbers.
This is what passes for "honorable discourse." Has it occurred to you, Toby, that if they are indeed "disproportionately aided" it might be because they are "disproportionately poor" and the government aids the poor?
Not incidentally, I'm getting a little tired of people calling me a liar.
And you are forced to stay here and be called "liar" by whom, exactly?
res ipsa loquitur
bingo.
Hi bats.
I saw the new Wallace and Gromit yesterday. It didn't disappoint.
I was watching the PBS evening news with Jim Lehrer (who I think is a Gooper) and he had Mark Shields (an alleged liberal) and Bobo (a documented wanker) on discussing the disappointment and anger that the "conservatives" now feel toward Bushboy.
It seems they liked the tax cuts but they don't like the out-of-control deficits. They don't blame Bushboy for Katrina's piss poor planning but they are furious that he would propose bailing out those rednecks & spades left devastated on the gulf coast. But most of all they are outraged with his Miers nomination for the USSC. They wanted another Roberts, not some female lawyer they don't know that much about.
Bushboy has taken these conservo's just like he's taken the other dupes in the country. He promises everything, delivers nothing but says he did deliver and then questions the patriotism of anyone who doesn't believe him!!!
I'm going out for some Starbucks.
Well, if you're so keen for my health, then I got a few kinks you can come and work out right now.
Toby, Why would you want anyone who you fantasizes holds you in such terrible contempt near you Toby?
My goats are tired of all this rain, they've got goat shack fever.
Next week: The Week Fitzgerald Saved America. Yeah baby!
The old man placed his glasses on the lectern and continued. “Who controls what we see? What we hear? And last of all what our reaction to that information should be? We venture each day into territory that is unexplored. We base our reactions to such ventures on a reality we presume to be our own. But is it? The truth is that this reality may be one chosen for us since we were children.
DWD: you are concerned with thought, the individual, and experience (from what I see).
best wishes with your material.
Bushboy's approval rating dropped to 37% last week.
It seems that even the rightwing is beginning to realize that Bushboy is in way over his meathead.
And we who have been saying that Bushboy was an incompetent, a liar and a depraved moron for the past 5 years and always will be, get little consolation from the fact that his rightwing dupes are now seeing the WH buffoon for the first time.
"honorable discourse" in this context = "underground mutton."
NYMary
You owe me a keyboard!
Hilarious, NYMary!
Go off and take care of the laundry and come back and see this:
"Hey Ek, you did see that one English community prevented the advertising of the film because they have a taboo against saying "rabbit" or "bunny"?"
Now I have to read a lot of thread to follow up.
Sheesh!
Next week: The Week Fitzgerald Saved America. Yeah baby!
Sharkbabe | Email | 10.08.05 - 12:39 pm | #
And there we have it.
The wish for the "man on the horse", the real underlying assumption behind the Democratic "let's do nothing and let the Republicans self-destruct" line.
The wish for the "man on the horse",
Is that like "man on dog" or "man on box turtle"?
DWD:
Your piece about perception and reality is right on target. It reminds me of the German philosopher (can't think of his name) who was the protoge' of Bertrand Russell, who said that reality is a function of language and thus as we grow and are taught the meaning of words and as media uses words our sense of a reality becomes virtually dictated and without questioning reality, it becomes putty in the hands of tyrants, advertisers and those who would control our behavior.
Good luck with your book.
they said 'give em hell harry' and harry reid said 'yeah baby' before serving a big plate of milktoast to his angry poodle puppies...
The Curse of the Welsh Rarebit.
NYC is fast becoming just another suburban strip mall, losing all its character to the big chains.
Fast becoming? Always has been, at least as long as I've been here, and that's going on 30 years now. The corporate crap comes and goes, but the true New Yorkers still know where to go for the good shit.
Last time 7-11 tried to make inroads here was in the early 90s. That effort petered out inside two years, once the novelty is gone, this too shall pass.
We'll still go to the local bodegas for our sodas and chips 'cause it's cheaper there and a lot of us still patronize our local coffee shops despite the fact that there's a Fourbucks on every other corner.
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