I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

Gravatarbush sucks


GravatarFuck 'em all and let god sort 'em out.


GravatarBring back the stocks in the public square.


Gravatarfuck


GravatarStocks - now there's a punishment I could learn to love. Rotten tomatoes anyone?


GravatarThe notes were in her other dress.


GravatarYou seem to have an interesting way of remembering things, Ms. Miller.


Gravatar"Ohhh...you meant THAT conspiracy to commit treason. Why didn't you say so? I've got THOSE notes right here!"


GravatarInteresting that all of a sudden JUNE is being discussed.

"I will leap to the presumption that the "we were just reacting to Joe Wilson's editorial" group bullshit is falling apart faster than a cheap thong in a hot dryer."

No shit. Have to say, I like Jane Hamsher.


GravatarExcellent post, really cuts through this whole miasma.

2. Joe Wilson, in his book and elsewhere, has long maintained that the White House Iraq Group -- whose notes and records Fitzgerald has subpoenaed -- did a workup of him in March, before his editorial was ever published. As early as his October 13, 2002 article in the San Jose Mercury News, Wilson was calling 'em all a bunch of hosebags. He had been flying in their radar for a while.

I never knew that, for instance...


GravatarIt's like Rove, too. The new defense seems to be forgetting things.


GravatarC-span caller bull slams Drudge.

"So much blood on your hands . . ."
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Gravatar It's like Rove, too. The new defense seems to be forgetting things.
Echidne of the snakes


This from the BFEE, who made its bones by not ever forgetting even the most insignificant slight.


GravatarWhat happens to the NYT when their complicity in all this is fully exposed? Can't very well fire Pinch . . . can the Times ever recover from this bullshit?

Fucking neocons. Why can't I get ONE decent NY paper? Where's a man to go? The Daily News? The fucking Post? For the love of pete, the Sun?

The Times has really, really let me down over the last four years. As much as I worry about the potential for attacks on the press, I want to see Judy et al pay for this bullshit. I have to wonder, truly, if Judy and Pinch aren't on the Bush admin payroll . . . hey, Armstrong Williams got a paycheck for shilling No Child Left Behind . . . how much do ya get paid for selling a war on false pretenses?


GravatarIt's really amazing to me that writers like Jane Hamsher, Digby and Billmon aren't all hired by some liberal interest group to start writing for real in a magazine or something.


GravatarOkay, not having had time to spend on this particular Bush ClusterFuck owing to my position in the sweatshot, I am a little confused.

Where are we with this thing? If the "'we were just reacting to Joe Wilson's editorial' group bullshit is falling apart faster than a cheap thong in a hot dryer" does this mean that they are now turning on each other -- or that Fitzy is just unraveling this stuff in spite of their attempts to stick together, i.e., continue the conspiracy?


GravatarTake out some frustration on Rep. Wayne Gilchrest, who switched his vote 44 minutes into the "energy" (aka refinery subsidy) bill vote yesterday:

http://gilchrest.house.gov/ conta...ontactType=Form

Ask him if he wants to be remembered as a treasonous sonofabitch or just a sonofabitch.


GravatarWhat happens to the NYT when their complicity in all this is fully exposed? Can't very well fire Pinch . . . can the Times ever recover from this bullshit?

No, unfortunately. Although the NYT is a public co., the Sulzburger family owns a controlling interest in the stock. Would be curious to know who sits on the BOD, though.


GravatarDid anyone notice the

"(hat tip to Mrs. K"


I think she comments here sometimes. If it's the same person, I enjoy her comments immensely.


GravatarIt's really amazing to me that writers like Jane Hamsher, Digby and Billmon aren't all hired by some liberal interest group to start writing for real in a magazine or something.
Heh


I thought Billmon hooked up a gig with the LAT or something a while back.

Oh well, it may just have been another of my paranoid flashbacks. As you know, I took both the red and the blue pills.


Gravatar

shoot, I forgot about the face thingy.

Mrs. K8


GravatarNEW COMPLAINT FILED AGAINST KARL ROVE for voter fraud in Kerr County, Texas.


GravatarVelllllllllly interesting.
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GravatarThe notes were in her other dress.

The blue one.


GravatarSeriously, if this betrayal is as bad as I think it is, how can anyone ever take the Times seriously again?

The "paper of record" will be ruined. Long before "all the news that's fit to print", the Times motto was "it doesn't soil the breakfast cloth".

I wish that were still so. One day, the Times will be taught in media classes right next to Hearst when Yellow Journalism comes up.


Gravatar(btw, still no food... who knew that Western Union needed a control number in order to receive cash?!?)

(It'll be okay, though... Mom will e-mail it to me before tonight)
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GravatarPoor Queen Judy
I dont think Fitz has called her back to testify but to offer her a plea bargain.
I think Fitz has correctly identified the weakest link in the conspiracy and informing her of the possible 20 years for conspiracy, obstruction of justice, perjury unless she turns as a prosecution witness. Judy who couldn't do 85 days is going to flip when faced with 20 years.


GravatarI thought Billmon hooked up a gig with the LAT or something a while back.

Yeah, he wrote op-eds for a while. I wish Kevin Drum got a regular gig writing a print column. He's a liberal who can reach the red states.


Gravatar"And the walls
Came tumblin down..."


GravatarIt's really amazing to me that writers like Jane Hamsher, Digby and Billmon aren't all hired by some liberal interest group to start writing for real in a magazine or something.
Heh


There is a MIchael Wolff article in this month's Vanity Fair (the one with Paris Hilton on the cover) that says that the Guardian is starting a liberal weekly mag to compete with the Economist here in America. Has anyone else heard about this?

I would be a charter subscriber.


GravatarSeriously, if this betrayal is as bad as I think it is, how can anyone ever take the Times seriously again?

I don't read it anymore. I mean, after the 2000 election, Wen Ho Lee, Whitewater, Jason Blair and its atrocious complicity in the WMD fiasco, they're not worth taking seriously. I read the blogs instead.


Gravatarres ipsa - The Guardian has been saying they were going to put out an American issue for a long time. Over a year, IIRC.


GravatarThere is a MIchael Wolff article in this month's Vanity Fair (the one with Paris Hilton on the cover) that says that the Guardian is starting a liberal weekly mag to compete with the Economist here in America. Has anyone else heard about this?

That would be great, especially if they hired foreign writers who have not been cowed yet. I heard rumors earlier on that they were considering a newspaper over here but decided against it. A magazine could do better.


Gravatar the Guardian is starting a liberal weekly mag to compete with the Economist here in America. Has anyone else heard about this?

I've heard something for over a year about the Guardian either starting a weekly newspaper in America or starting a magazine. Great idea. There's a market for a quality liberal weekly.


GravatarFrom my favorite guide to these matters, H20 Man:


The Mystery Man's Secret (Karl on Ice)


Three quotes on the situation with Karl Rove that should be of interest, and clarify why he is scheduled to chat with Patrick Fitzgerald in front of the grand jury next week.

{1} "Fitzgerald is intentionally keeping reporters and everyone else guessing as to what's really going on in his head. Last week, NEWSWEEK has learned, after Time's Matthew Cooper provided grand-jury testimony on his July 11, 2003, conversation with Karl Rove, Robert Luskin, Rove's attorney, placed a call to Fitzgerald to make sure he didn't need anything more from Rove in light of Cooper's claims. Fitzgerald didn't bite: 'We'll get back to you,' the prosecutor replied curtly, and quickly got off the line."
-- "The Mystery Man"; Darman & Isikoff; Newsweek; 7-25-05; page 32.

"Apparently, according to two journalist sources of mine, when Rove learned that he might have violated the law, he turned on Cheney and Libby and made it clear that he held them responsible for the problem they had created for the administration."
-- "The Politics of Truth"; Joseph Wilson; 2004; page 444.

"(Mark Felt) gave me a little lecture about breaking a conspiracy like Watergate. 'You build convincingly from the outer edges in, you get ten times the evidence you need against the Hunts and Liddys. They feel hopelessly finished -- they may not talk right away, but the grip is on them. Then you move up and do the same thing at the next level."
--"The Secret Man"; Bob Woodward; 2005; page 91.

http:// www.democraticunderground...mesg_id=4999763


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GravatarWow. Just wow.


They are all so very fucked. I wonder if dear Judy is desperately trying to avoid a "lying to the FBI" charge herself?

As for Libby, his goose is fucking cooked.


GravatarThere's a market for a quality liberal weekly.
Heh


I think that market is huge. Reagan's "conservative movement" reached market saturation long ago.


GravatarJeffraham,

I'm so sorry; that's terrible. I wish I lived near you so I could invite you over for something to eat. Damn. Is there anything we can do?


GravatarHecate: I'm so sorry; that's terrible. I wish I lived near you so I could invite you over for something to eat. Damn. Is there anything we can do?

No, no -- it's okay, really! I was just hoping to go pick up the loan, and get some groceries. I still have a meal or two at home, so no worries.
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GravatarHecate -- But as always, thank you for your concern!
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GravatarJeez, Jeffraham - I wish you were closer. I'd be happy to feed you.

Let us know if there's anything we can do, please.


GravatarJeffraham, when do you start your new job?


GravatarTena ...

They were talking about an American edition of the newspaper. I think they chucked that idea. Now they are talking weekly magazine. Different idea. Just don't know when launch is.


Gravatar I wish Kevin Drum got a regular gig writing a print column. He's a liberal who can reach the red states.
Heh


Good point, though disagree about the "red state" bit. There has to be a liaison between the left and the Soft Chewy Center™. Someone who can calmly, quietly make him/herself understood. Otherwise, Liberals and Progressives can be shouting till they're blue(er) in the face, and the Chewies will just be scratching their heads, going "what's he saying? I don't understand...". When you desire to communicate with, and especially to convince some of the rightness of your point of view, speaking their language is the first step that makes all subsequent steps possible. Skip that step, you might as well stay home.


Gravatar(if I were in imminent danger of starving, trust me -- I would have taken my scraped-together change from last night and bought food instead of beer!)
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GravatarBack to Judy, I think she's terrified about going back to jail.


GravatarMax - Reagan's "conservative movement" reached market saturation long ago.

Oh, jes, jes it did.

I can't wait until Rush and O'Lielly and the rest are out of work. And they will be eventually.


GravatarShe's the fucking Indiana Jones of dust bunnies

Bill Shakespeare couldn't have put it better.

I hope Fitz has people on hand to round these people up quickly when they go down, especially if he gets Chimpy and Big Dick. They're batshit crazy enough to do anything if cornered.


GravatarTena, is the weather nice in Dallas today?

It's freaking gorgeous in Austin for a change. I


Gravatarre Guardian weekly ...


Check this.

Am trying to get article ... Hold please.


Gravatarres ipsa - well, I wish they'd do something. I was looking forward to their publication.


GravatarAs for Libby, his goose is fucking cooked.
fourlegsgood


Fitz appears to me, from the appropriately scant grand jury news, to be the perfect prosecutor.

Cheerfully provide the brush, paint, and corner to the witnesses. Then marvel at their handiwork.


Gravatarfourlegsgood: Jeffraham, when do you start your new job?

This Tuesday and Thursday are "orientation" days, then the regular schedule starts on the following Monday.

Assuming, of course, that I passed the pee-pee test (which, again, I definitely should have). I haven't heard back from them, but they can't call me on Monday. T-Mobile has this thing about bill payment, silly bastiges.
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GravatarJeffraham,

When you get the loan, pasta and dried beans are still really cheap and fill you up. If you can get a ham bone or some veggies great, but if not, even plain water will turn both of them into a meal. I learned to love bean soup when I was a struggling single mom!


GravatarYou would think as a mobster's daughter, Judy would be better prepared for some quality jail time. Wimping out after 85 days, her father would be ashamed.
But now she is probably facing 20 years, as Fitz will explain on Tuesday. Will she break the code of silence and sing like a bird.
Going to be real good.


GravatarI hope Fitz has people on hand to round these people up quickly when they go down, especially if he gets Chimpy and Big Dick. They're batshit crazy enough to do anything if cornered.

I love that quote above about how Rove blames Cheney and Libby. I'm sure he'll turn on them in a second to save his pathetic skin.


GravatarWell done, Jane.

Judy^3

I believe Todd Haynes should make a movie about dear Judy^3 and JFM's New York Times.


GravatarBut now she is probably facing 20 years, as Fitz will explain on Tuesday. Will she break the code of silence and sing like a bird.


She will be singing like a chickadee in nesting season.


GravatarAfternoon, all.

Can't get the link to work --
can anybody give me the short
version?


Gravatar I think they chucked that idea. Now they are talking weekly magazine. Different idea. Just don't know when launch is.


By sheer coincidence, I received a thing in the mail today asking me to subscribe to Guardian Weekly.

However, at $119 for the year, it seems a bit too much for me.


GravatarAround 7:30 on Wednesday morning, Mr. Cooper had said goodbye to his son, resigned to his fate. His lawyer, Mr. Sauber, called to alert him to a statement from Mr. Luskin in The Wall Street Journal.

"If Matt Cooper is going to jail to protect a source," Mr. Luskin told The Journal, "it's not Karl he's protecting."

That provided an opening, Mr. Cooper said. "I was not looking for a waiver," he said, "but on Wednesday morning my lawyer called and said, 'Look at The Wall Street Journal. I think we should take a shot.' And I said, 'Yes, it's an invitation.' "

In court shortly after 2, he told Judge Thomas F. Hogan of the Federal District Court in Washington that he had received "an express personal release from my source."

That statement surprised Mr. Luskin, Mr. Rove's lawyer. Mr. Luskin said he had only reaffirmed the blanket waiver, in response to a request from Mr. Fitzgerald.


LINK

So after Cooper suddenly announces he's testifying, Rove "volunteers" to testify for a fourth time. Right. He knew he had to cover his ass, because he never thought Cooper would talk.

But it wasn't until Miller testified that Fitzgerald took Rove up on the offer. Very interesting.

This is really getting good!


GravatarMore on the Guardian coming to America.


GravatarCan't get the link to work --
can anybody give me the short
version?



Sure- Fitzpatrick is getting ready to fuck all of them big time.

Especially Miss Judy, who is apparently looking at jail time since Fitzpatrick already knew that she'd talked to Libby before July.


GravatarThere has to be a liaison between the left and the Soft Chewy Center™. Someone who can calmly, quietly make him/herself understood.

Yeah, that's Kevin Drum. I mean, he gets sort of annoying when he doesn't jump on the firebreathing liberal bandwagon right away but I think he more than makes up for it with his graphs and original analyses. It's good to have a, well, square or two on our side. "Moderate" conservatives and middle of the road types seem to like him: Tacitus before he went off the res, the Washington Post editors, the TNR crew and so on.


GravatarWhat is the song of the chickenbeaver native to the U.S. Northeast?


GravatarHecate: When you get the loan, pasta and dried beans are still really cheap and fill you up. If you can get a ham bone or some veggies great, but if not, even plain water will turn both of them into a meal. I learned to love bean soup when I was a struggling single mom!

Oh, definitely -- I'm a big pasta-head, anyway. I eat it allatime, even when I'm not destitute.

Really, I can make $10 last a week or more for meals. It'll be cool when I don't have to do that, but I've managed really well -- with a LOT of help from my Atriot friends, of course!
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GravatarKeystone criminals

cooper got a personal waiver from libby a year ago but didn't get one from rove until cooper was about to be sent to jail.

judy didn't get a personal waiver from libby until after fitz sent a thinly veiled threat to libby.

Either miller and her lawyers and cooper and his lawyers are the dumbest fucks ever or else libby and rove didn't want them testifying.


GravatarWhen you get the loan, pasta and dried beans are still really cheap and fill you up. If you can get a ham bone or some veggies great, but if not, even plain water will turn both of them into a meal. I learned to love bean soup when I was a struggling single mom!

I've been thinking that knowing how to cook so that you are eating as well as you can on a limited budget may become a useful skill soon.


GravatarYahoo Headline
Senate Dems Defend Miers on Top Court Nod

Need I say more. Dems are defending her more than the Repukes. Bush and Karl must be having a good laugh? How do you defend a totally unqualified appointee and a known Bush crony and evangelical pro-life nut. Thank you Harry Reid for your "leadership".


GravatarAny guesses as to why Fitzgerald hasn't subpoenaed Bolton and Fleitz yet? I think it's safe to assume his visit to Judy in the slammer wasn't a social call.

This is an old link (9/20/2005), but I think it suggests ample reasons why Bolton and Fleitz should be persons of interest in the investigation.

Plamegate: The John Bolton Connection


GravatarSure- Fitzpatrick is getting ready to fuck all of them big time.

Especially Miss Judy, who is apparently looking at jail time since Fitzpatrick
already knew that she'd talked to Libby before July.
fourlegsgood | Email | 10.08.05 - 3:18 pm | #


How much you wanna bet that a
certain little sociopath who trolls
here will go into complete denial
about it?


Gravatarfourlegsgood - yeah, it is. It was down in the upper 40's last night. Sun just came out here - so I know the temp will go back up.

But another front is forecast for next week, according to the NOAA. (or at least the last time I looked it was.)


GravatarYou would think as a mobster's daughter, Judy would be better prepared for some quality jail time.

Who is Miller's father?


GravatarNeed I say more. Dems are defending her more than the Repukes.

I, for one, am all for it. She's a nice, big wedge to drive through the heart of the Republican party. Keep it up, Dems.


Gravatarres ipsa loquitur: Who is Miller's father?

And, the burning question...

With TDSw/JS do up a Photoshop on the theme of Miller's Crossing?
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GravatarI, for one, am all for it. She's a nice, big wedge to drive through the heart of the Republican party. Keep it up, Dems.
Heh


Exactly. Bang, bang, bang - crack.
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GravatarCan any legal experts lay out in a simple manner, what the rights, obligations, and immunities are for a witness in a grand jury investigation. I dimly remember a constitutional law course I took decades ago mentioning some oddities about that kind of court.


GravatarI still worry that Libby is going to take the fall for this, and no-one else.

If it's just Libby who goes down, I think most people are just going to shrug and say "Who he?"


GravatarIt's good to have a, well, square or two on our side.

Yeah, perhaps. But what the left needs in this country, and is lacking, is the firebreathers. We have no Limbaughs or Coulters or Malkins or O'Reillys.

And I do not mean that we should try to compete with the right in hypocrisy and outright mendacity. But the ardor and the willingness to say things that seem outrageous but that can then enter the public discourse is what we need...


Gravatarhd - Need I say more. Dems are defending her more than the Repukes. Bush and Karl must be having a good laugh? How do you defend a totally unqualified appointee and a known Bush crony and evangelical pro-life nut. Thank you Harry Reid for your "leadership".

I agree she's unqualified, but I'd like to look a bit closer before I decide the Dems have sold us out. It could just be that Harry knows something neither you nor Bush know about her.

I know nothing, beyond what I'm told, which is that she "works very hard." I'm not the slightest bit convinced that she is all the WH has claimed she is, for the benefit of the Right.

Not at all.

In fact, I'm not sure that she is what she has pretended to be to further her career.


Gravatarsimels ...

No doubt you'll be crushed to learn that you missed The Little Sociopath, who was busy projecting his various insecurities onto various members of the Atriot community.


GravatarI can't wait until Rush and O'Lielly and the rest are out of work. And they will be eventually.
Tena


Murdoch having changed his spots before, The Falafellator (and Hannity and the rest) will be in trouble before El Rushbo. But he won't be far behind, I think. Of course, he's so rich now, he can probably stay on the air somehow, even if it's limited to 3 A.M. on a few dozen stations. There'll always be a bit of a market for the crap he sells.


GravatarNeed I say more. Dems are defending her more than the Repukes.

The Senate Democrats have the money, the public polls on abortion, and the reputation to filibuster this nomination. Remember, Shrub was forced by the Senate to use a recess appointment for Bolton.

They are keeping their powder dry at the moment for some reason. I hope the gamble works the way they plan.


GravatarNo doubt you'll be crushed to learn that you missed The Little Sociopath, who
was busy projecting his various insecurities onto various members of the Atriot
community.
res ipsa loquitur | 10.08.05 - 3:25 pm | #


Shit!

When was this?


GravatarBrown rice, beans, lentils, a little olive oil, onions and root vegetables.

Cheap and good for you. And most can be purchased in bulk to save even more.


GravatarAlso, if Fitzgerald can really get Judy to sing, it's going to be a disaster for either the NYT or the Bush administration, or both. Either Judy gets to admit that she knew the WMD party line was bullshit and printed it anyway, or she gets to explain that Rove and the boys were deliberately using the press to gin up fake excuses to invade Iraq, and she fell for it.

By itself, the Downing Street memo didn't have much in the way of legs, but in the context of a determination that top White House staffers were already engaged in a conspiracy to propagate misinformation and suppress dissent (as would be shown by conspiracy charges in the Plame case) the DSM starts to take on new significance.


GravatarI would imagine this is leading to a lowering of the boom on Wilson.

Although, what's to stop Miller from writing new entries and claiming they were from 2003?


GravatarIf Libby goes, Pork Chop Boy goes. Scooter ranks Rove on foreign policy, war, and most economics, but even a senior aide like Libby does not make the Niger play on his own - that's Cheney's devil child.

The Big Dick will not go easy, but it's him or Shrub.
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GravatarJeez, Jeffraham - I wish you were closer. I'd be happy to feed you.

Let us know if there's anything we can do, please.
Tena


If the Eschacon page, with it's Paypal button is still active, that might be a good way to get financial help to our fellow Atriots. Just an idea.


GravatarOkay

I'll give up Judy,if we can have Bolton, Scooter, Rove, Cheney and w as an unindicted co-conspirator.


GravatarThe Senate Democrats have the money, the public polls on abortion, and the reputation to filibuster this nomination. Remember, Shrub was forced by the Senate to use a recess appointment for Bolton.

They are keeping their powder dry at the moment for some reason. I hope the gamble works the way they plan.


Unless they are *positive* she's David Souter with a vagina, they should attack her as a crony pick, which I think would really resonate after Drownie exposed the folly of such appointments.


GravatarAlas, I think the Dems keep their powder dry because, well, they just like dry powder.


GravatarI would imagine this is leading to a lowering of the boom on Wilson.

I'm sure you're right. How are things on your planet, by the way?


GravatarJeffram--
One word: splitpeasoup.

OK, that is a few words. Good luck. Fuck the mobile phone company.


GravatarIf the Democrats are willing to try and obstruct Harriet Miers, then the Republicans should unleash the Constitutional Option on them and end the Filibuster forever


GravatarShe's a nice, big wedge to drive through the heart of the Republican party. Keep it up, Dems.

Plus it makes Dems look ever so less "partisan" when someone casually asks during the confirmation hearing "Oh, by the way, Ms Miers -- some people are raising questions about the August 6, 2001 PDB. What was your role in that? And some people are questioning whether or not you helped scrub the President's TANG records. Would you care to comment?"


GravatarOT...sorry...but checking in periodically on the 25th anniversary presentations on C-Span today (nothing on TV anyhow)...and watching that smug prick Drudge (not appropriate language for a retire teacher/senior grandmother, I know) it was all I could do not to throw mushy things at my tv screen...but WHY punish my TV??? He took great pains to correct a caller (from the "other side") on three misspeaks...but let the next pandering caller call him MR. JUDGE! What an idiot! After catching a bit of the fiasco with the right wing radio host and Randi Rhodes I should have been warned off...that babe (Jane somebody) just talked over Randi (who irritates me often) because she had NOTHING to come back with...so sad! Thank goodness for Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me on NPR...some weeks it provides my only laugh out loud moments...


GravatarOnce again,
Gary Ruppert provides comedy gold!


How do you it, dude?


GravatarI would imagine this is leading to a lowering of the boom on Wilson.


Put down the LSD son.

That shit ain't good for you.


GravatarIf the Democrats are willing to try and obstruct Harriet Miers, then the Republicans should unleash the Constitutional Option on them and end the Filibuster forever

You're right. They should. That would seal the REpublicans' doom forever.

Bring it.


Gravatar Alas, I think the Dems keep their powder dry because, well, they just like dry powder.
Eli


I thought that was George W...


GravatarThey are all so very fucked. I wonder if dear Judy is desperately trying to avoid a "lying to the FBI" charge herself?

I suspect, at minimum, that she fears a perjury charge. However, the WMD propagandist has been so deeply involved with these fucks that it would surprise me if she gets named as being part of the conspiracy.


GravatarUnless they are *positive* she's David Souter with a vagina, they should attack her as a crony pick, which I think would really resonate after Drownie exposed the folly of such appointments.

OMG, that's so fucked up but LOL...


GravatarPut down the LSD son.

That shit ain't good for you.
fourlegsgood


I know this is snark, but I still have to say: I disagree with that statement.


GravatarOMG, that's so fucked up but LOL...

Not mine. I personally prefer "The FEMA Impersonator", but "Drownie" is faster to type.


GravatarThe fact is that not enough Americans like the Undemocratic filibuster for it's destruction to be a big deal.

I wanna destroy the Filibuster forever, because it basically says that 41 Senators can stop the business of the Senate for no good reason.


GravatarSun just came out here - so I know the temp will go back up.


The sun is out here but it's still only about 70 degrees.


I have the windows open for a change.


Gravatarchica toxica: Good luck. Fuck the mobile phone company.

Thanks! I have no complaints with T-Mobile... they always let me go 90 days past due before they start taking away... I guess I'm a good enough customer (which is odd, as I NEVER exceed my alotted free airtime).
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GravatarI wanna destroy the Filibuster forever, because it basically says that 41 Senators can stop the business of the Senate for no good reason.

Do it.

Overturn Roe while you're at it.

You'll be relegated to the dustbin of history!


GravatarWhen Roe and the Filibuster are overturned, the Republicans will only get stronger.

Democrats on a state level have been able to claim they are "Pro-Life", but when Abortion is settled by the states, then they will be exposed and more Republicans will be elected to protect life.


GravatarRuppert.


Still too stupid to live.



Amazing.


GravatarNot mine. I personally prefer "The FEMA Impersonator", but "Drownie" is faster to type.

"Drownie" and "Chimpeach" are two of the best I've seen. Thank you, anonymous geniuses, wherever you are...


Gravatarsimels ... This morning. I saved a particularly good one:

You may think that your superior professional status entitles you to talk down to me, but that's a flaw in your character, not mine.
Toby Petzold | Email | Homepage | 10.08.05 - 12:25 pm | #


I love how he enjoys reveling in his fantasy of snobbish liberal elitists luxuriating in their decadent coastal enclaves while sneering at his little brownshirt ideas.


GravatarDo it.

Overturn Roe while you're at it.


Hell, just go ahead and overturn Brown v Board of Education!


GravatarMy favorite member of the NY Times Board of Directors is an employee of the Carlyle Group.

Small world, isn't it?


GravatarProtect life.


I guess unless it's non-christian life, eh?


GravatarNah. Brown was the right decision.

Roe was a travesty


GravatarBird flu strikes in Danube delta

Romania has reported its first bird flu cases but it is unclear if the strain found in the Danube delta is the deadly H5N1 virus which hit parts of Asia.

Scientists in Bucharest discovered flu antibodies in three domestic ducks found dead in a remote village late last month, the government said.

The exact strain is to be determined by a lab in the UK in the next few days.

According to an unconfirmed report, three more cases of bird flu have since been found and a cull has begun.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europ...ope/ 4322330.stm


Gravatarres:

He's such an idiot. It's
almost breathtaking....


GravatarYou may think that your superior professional status entitles you to talk down to me, but that's a flaw in your character, not mine.
Toby Petzold | Email | Homepage | 10.08.05 - 12:25 pm | #



What?

LOL. I guess that proves that toby really is a file clerk working for the state.


GravatarIs it possible to be too cynical about these people?

is it possible that, harry being so transparently unqualified for the job, so bereft of a relevant experience, a record or an articulated judicial philosophy, the busheviks/bush.inc expect her nomination to fail, and then to follwo up with someone who, in objective categories is better 'qualified' than harry was, but whose opinions--marginal though they most likely would be--would then be off limits?

Is it possible to be too cynical about these people?
i think not...
.


GravatarProtect life.

I guess unless it's non-christian life, eh?


Bombs awaaaaaaaaaaaaay!


GravatarThe word "perjury" is one of my favorite words in English. It really fills up one's mouth with a sexy pout followed by a sweet grin.

Ah!


GravatarDon't be so hard on Gary. On his planet, women all across the country have been waiting for the moment when they can elect public officials who will take away their right to legal abortion, and it's wrong to have made them wait so long. What he says may not have any relevance to the planet the rest of us live on, but it makes for entertaining reading. Think of it as science fiction of the L. Ron Hubbard school.


GravatarI guess unless it's non-christian life, eh?

Or, y'know, *born*.


GravatarProtect life.

I guess unless it's non-christian life, eh?


Or brown-skinned. Or just simply poor.


GravatarThe word "perjury" is one of my favorite words in English. It really fills up one's mouth with a sexy pout followed by a sweet grin.

*scribbles furiously*


GravatarOr, y'know, *born*.

Yep.


The real travesty is that gary was born. What a fucking waste of food and oxygen.


GravatarProtect life.

I guess unless it's non-christian life, eh?


Protect life.

The fact is that the 5th Amendment basically bans the Government from allowing legal Abortion


GravatarEli, you're a funny guy. Do you do improv comedy or stand up? You should think about trying out for the Groundlings or the Upright Citizens Brigade. Really, you have a quick wit and you're verbal.


GravatarShrub basically nominated the his local garage mechanic to command the next shuttle mission.

It's so wacky that it's genius!
Or, just wacky.


GravatarIt really fills up one's mouth with a sexy pout followed by a sweet grin.


Um. Okay.


I prefer the term "unindicted co-conspirator."

That has a nice, sexy ring to it.


GravatarThe fact is that the 5th Amendment basically bans the Government from allowing legal Abortion
Gary Ruppert


No.


GravatarIt's really amazing to me that writers like Jane Hamsher, Digby and Billmon aren't all hired by some liberal interest group to start writing for real in a magazine or something.
Heh


Hamsher's post was just awesome. So snarkilishes and informative at the same time.

This is going to be sooooooo much fun. My nipples are going to be horribly chafed by the middle of next week.


GravatarThe fact is that the 5th Amendment basically bans the Government from allowing legal Abortion


Now I know you're insane.


GravatarOverturn Roe while you're at it.

Hell, just go ahead and overturn Brown v Board of Education!


I know more than a few people who'd like to overturn Bush v Gore.


GravatarHe's such an idiot. It's
almost breathtaking....


I love his fantasies and insecurities. I love how he revels in his victimhood. He is a textbook repuke. Danger lurks everywhere! Everyone's trying to oppress him! He's trapped here!


Gravatarre cspan, from an hour ago when they had drudge on, had they been doing monica/impeachment all day?


GravatarProtect life.


unless it happens to stand between exxon/chevron/texaco/shell and a bucket of oil...

fuckers


GravatarArticle about Dean's plans to improve Dem Party:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ 20051...HNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

Better statement of values, better message, better ground game, better targeting.

Hope it works.


GravatarI wanna destroy the Filibuster forever, because it basically says that 41 Senators can stop the business of the Senate for no good reason.
Gary Ruppert


Why do you hate the Constitution. One time. The filabuster is especially important when, like now, you have a majority of senators representing a minority of the population.

as Washington Post columnist E. J. Dionne Jr. has pointed out. Dionne
found, based on July 2004 Census Bureau figures, that the 44 Democratic
Senators represent 148,026,027 people, while the 55 Republican Senators
represent 144,765,157. (Independent Vermont Senator Jim Jeffords, who
votes with the Democrats on such issues, represents 310,697, making the
gap even greater.)


We really have to keep this mind.


GravatarEli, you're a funny guy. Do you do improv comedy or stand up? You should think about trying out for the Groundlings or the Upright Citizens Brigade. Really, you have a quick wit and you're verbal.

Okay, I'm going to pretend this isn't sarcasm and say I suck at improv, did standup twice in college (1 success, 1 catastrophic failure), and nooo.

I lost my appetite for public performance somewhere along the line, possibly as part of my slightly-successful attempt to rein in my ego...


GravatarHow Different Groups Feel About President AWOL's Performance

The Associated Press

Published: Oct 8, 2005
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/ MG...GB7Q308KEE.html

snip

Percentage of people who strongly approve of President AWOL's job performance - in January 2005 and October 2005.

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OVERALL

January 2005: 27 percent

October 2005: 21 percent


INDEPENDENTS

January 2005: 23 percent

October 2005: 11 percent


WHITE EVANGELICALS

January 2005: 49 percent

October 2005: 33 percent


REPUBLICAN MEN

January 2005: 57 percent

October 2005: 42 percent


PROTESTANTS

January 2005: 36 percent

October 2005: 25 percent


SOUTHERNERS

January 2005: 32 percent

October 2005: 22 percent


RURAL

January 2005: 35 percent

October 2005: 26 percent

AP-ES-10-08-05 1426EDT
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GravatarThis is going to be sooooooo much fun. My nipples are going to be horribly chafed by the middle of next week.


I recommend you invest in a some aloe vera.

Or take up snoopy dancing. It's just as pleasurable and burns calories too.


Gravatar"... more Republicans will be elected to protect life."
--Gary Ruppert


Yeah right. Just like they're doing right now. Just not for people who are alive.


GravatarThe 5th Amendment:

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.


GravatarHead's up: new Wolcott.


GravatarGary - How do you know that "not enough Americans like the filibuster"?

God you say these things with no sources at all to back them up all the fucking time, Gary.

You're spouting shit.

You're so fucking useless, even as a troll you're useless.


Gravatar love his fantasies and insecurities. I love how he revels in his victimhood. He is
a textbook repuke. Danger lurks everywhere! Everyone's trying to oppress him!
He's trapped here!
res ipsa loquitur | 10.08.05 - 3:44 pm | #


The Mohammedan Menace is coming
to get him!!!!!


GravatarThis is going to be sooooooo much fun. My nipples are going to be horribly chafed by the middle of next week.
Attaturk


ho ho! I'd pay to see that!


GravatarI see that Diet Troll Classic is back.

He functions as a change-up from the usual sock puppets.


GravatarWhy do you hate the Constitution.

The Filibuster is not in the constitution.

The filabuster is especially important when, like now, you have a majority of senators representing a minority of the population.

The Senate is not supposed to be proportional


GravatarIf I were ambitious today, I'd rewrite the lyrics to "the Safety Dance" to be about the snoopy dance.


Instead, I'm going to watch the end of this most excellent football game and then go out into the beautiful afternoon to finish my photo assignment.


GravatarAttaturk is stealing Rob Corddry's bit...? Or... is it the other way 'round?


.


GravatarOkay, I'm going to pretend this isn't sarcasm and say I suck at improv, did standup twice in college (1 success, 1 catastrophic failure), and nooo

This really rather surprises me, but then writing and performing are two wholly different things.

I was part of a small comedy troupe call "The Pepperoni Milkshake" when in college, and it was great fun, and I daresay we were pretty damn funny.


GravatarArticle about Dean's plans to improve Dem Party:

Better statement of values, better message, better ground game, better targeting.

Hope it works.
jawbone


guess who allowed the ground game go to shit to begin with?


GravatarGary. Fetuses aren't people.


GravatarThis really rather surprises me, but then writing and performing are two wholly different things.

I was a bit surprised myself, but there it is.


GravatarLife begins at conception, therefore unborn children are people.

Roe is equivilent to the Dred Scott decision which said that black people were not people


GravatarThis is going to be sooooooo much fun. My nipples are going to be horribly chafed by the middle of next week.
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Dammit attaturk! I was just going to come in and lurk for a while, and now you've made me laugh out loudand start coughing again. But thanks for the visual!


GravatarRe c-span - just when Drudge was on, since that's his claim to fame.

Some of these 25 hrs of marathon call-in have been interesting - others, not so much.
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GravatarHe's such an idiot. It's
almost breathtaking....

steve simels


All Atriots are advised to keep the oxygen bottle within easy reach from the 'pooter, for just this reason. Oxygen deprivation is very difficult to detect until it's too late...


Gravatar"Drownie" and "Chimpeach" are two of the best I've seen.

I very much like "petrolsexual," which I first saw here a coupla weeks ago.


Gravatarevelhtfkflkfklfjfgj

fourlegsgood: Fetuses aren't people.

You know how you can tell? People don't need to be hooked up to another person solely in order to remain alive. Wow, it's just that simple.
.


GravatarGary. Fetuses aren't people.
fourlegsgood


"Oh, yeah."


GravatarNobody handles nipples like Bobo.


GravatarLife begins at conception, therefore unborn children are people.

Do you not even realize that this statement, which you simply posit as fact, is actually the very point of contention?

Moron.


GravatarOT: Anybody got auto-body experience?

drivin' in from the mountains last evening, i got squeezed by an 18-wheeler, and clipped a construction barrel, knockin' the driver's side mirror loose from it's moorings...

it's a 2002 Escort ZX2...

the electrics seem to be whole...

could i just load up the rim with gorilla glue and stick it back on?

what might it cost t'get it done in a shop?

any ideas?

just askin'
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GravatarRORS -

Ruppert took ALL the brown acid!


GravatarBetter statement of values, better message, better ground game, better targeting.


what we need is radio and tv.


GravatarI very much like "petrolsexual," which I first saw here a coupla weeks ago.
monica_nyc


Hee! That is hilarious!


GravatarDo you not even realize that this statement, which you simply posit as fact, is actually the very point of contention?

Life begins at contention.


GravatarLife doesn't begin when the child exits the womb, it begins at conception.

The 5th Amendment explicitally says that you cannot deprive someone of life without due process.

Unborn children have not been convicted of any crime, and they are slaughtered every day.

Over 30 million in 30 years, many of them Minorities who could have been brilliant


Gravatarthat the 44 Democratic
Senators represent 148,026,027 people, while the 55 Republican Senators
represent 144,765,157.


NOt only that, the 44 Dem senators recieved 3 million more votes than the 55 Repubs.


GravatarWoody - since you didn't mention duct tape, I'd go with the glue.


GravatarThe filibuster is a tool like any other, neither good nor bad in itself, which can be put to good or bad uses.

Rethug/Dixiecrat filibuster of civil rights in the 1960s - bad use.

Dem filibuster of unqualified/evil candidates or bad legislation in 2000s - good use. (Sadly, used too little.)

Majority rule is an American value. Preventing a "tyranny of the majority" is as well.


GravatarLife doesn't begin when the child exits the womb, it begins at conception.

Prove it.
.


GravatarThe 5th Amendment explicitally says that you cannot deprive someone of life without due process.


Go preach that at Gitmo.


GravatarLife begins at conception

I often fry up an egg and call it chicken.


GravatarAaargh! Ruprecht is the stupidest of the stupid.

He can only be cog - there can't be two people that stupid and still alive - one maybe, as long as he has a keeper to remind him to breathe.

You don't get to say when life starts, Gary. You aren't God.


Gravatarcould i just load up the rim with gorilla glue and stick it back on?

Are you talking about the mirror. If so give it a try, the urathane water activated foaming gorilla glue (as well as the after market copies of it) I've used for almost the exact same fix on my sons old buick. I've replaced the mirrors a couple of times and eventually people bumping them in parking lots make the mirrors loose again. So, I finally fixed the wobbly mirrors with gorilla glue, and haven't had to fool with them again.

tips, clamp the part to be fixed with tape, and cover anything below the part so that when the glue foams out of the joint, you won't have to pick it off the body later.


GravatarI often fry up an egg and call it chicken.


LOL.


GravatarLife begins at conception, therefore unborn children are people.

Roe is equivilent to the Dred Scott decision which said that black people were not people
Gary Ruppert


Gary--to give birth is far more medically dangerous than having an abortion. To force someone to give birth who is pregnant and doesn't want to be is effectively breaking several laws and constitutional amendments.

Besides, until the government is willing to pony up the medical and financial services required to fully support a child and a parent for several years, I do not believe the government has yet acknowledged that the newly born are humans.

It is the lack of good faith and social policies of the government which makes abortion a necessary part of this nation.


Gravatar Aaargh! Ruprecht is the stupidest of the stupid.

Its not necessarily stupid, its just your basic Troll Classic. It's just spouting bullshit to get a reaction. It probably doesn't believe half of what it spouts.


GravatarLife begins at conception: prove it Gary.

Prove it.


GravatarTalking to Gary is like talking to road kill.


Unpleasant and pointless.


GravatarGary:
it is my sincerest wish that you impregnate you own retarded daughter and get upon her a down syndrome fetus, meanwhile losing all the social services you need to maintain your child, much less your incipient grandchild, because of budget cuts necessitated by the perpetual wars you are going to be supporting from now on...

i really want for you the kind of hopelessness which you are so willing, even righteous, about inflicitng on those whose faces you have never seen...

just imagining it makes my day somehow brighter...
.


Gravatar Talking to Gary is like talking to road kill.

With all the charm of a dead armadillo.


GravatarLfie dosen't beign wehn the clhid etixs the wmob, it binegs at cinteopcon.

The 5th Anndememt eltaipillxcy syas taht you conant divrpee sneoome of lfie whiotut due psroces.

Ubronn crlehdin hvae not been cnceotivd of any cimre, and tehy are setraeghlud erevy day.

Oevr 30 miiolln in 30 yares, mnay of tehm Moiietrnis who culod hvae been bllanirit
Gray Ruerppt

here's an auto translator english to troll speak translator...
http://www.stevesachs.com/jumbler.cgi


Gravatarso, a friend sends me a cd and tells me not to glance at the the cover before playing it...

open and toss on player...kick ass big band opens up...i'm thinking harry connick, jr or maybe tony bennet...then the crooning starts..nope, not the above....good voice....but the songs are modern, not standards..when it gets to a big band version of 'black hole sun' i gotta take a look...freaking paul anka


GravatarAwright, I have the requisite info to go to WU now, so away I go. Watch my laptop, please.
.


GravatarTexas is obliterating Oklahoma.


Even you guys have got to like that.


GravatarSo RUBE-pert is back on his anti-choice shit.

When he can get pregnant, then and only then should he open his mouth!


Gravatarwhat might it cost t'get it done in a shop?

WGG-- how many children do you have to sell to the shop for slave labor?

About that much.


GravatarRe c-span - just when Drudge was on, since that's his claim to fame.

Some of these 25 hrs of marathon call-in have been interesting - others, not so much.


oh good, i got worried that rove suddenly become program manager and turned it into the all day impeachment channel.


Gravataropen and toss on player...kick ass big band opens up...i'm thinking harry connick, jr or maybe tony bennet...then the crooning starts..nope, not the above....good voice....but the songs are modern, not standards..when it gets to a big band version of 'black hole sun' i gotta take a look...freaking paul anka





Don't ya hate when that happens?


Gravatarfreaking paul anka

The General linked to Paul Anka's cover CD recently. The cover of Oasis' "Wonderwall" is pretty finger-snapping.


Gravatarwhen it gets to a big band version of 'black hole sun' i gotta take a look...freaking paul anka

Paul Anka has good management.


GravatarLife begins at conception, therefore unborn children are people

Life begins at erection.


GravatarBLOODY HELL!

PANABAJ, Guatemala (Reuters) - Around 1,400 people died under a huge mudslide in the Guatemalan village of Panabaj that was triggered by torrential rains from Hurricane Stan, the fire brigade said on Saturday.

+


BUCHAREST (Reuters) - Romania and Turkey reported new cases of avian flu on Saturday and began culling hundreds of birds to prevent the globally feared disease

+


KUTA BEACH, Indonesia (Reuters) - Police questioned more witnesses in the Bali backpack bombings on Saturday after narrowly failing to capture a key suspect in a series of blasts in Indonesia over the past several year


+


PESHAWAR, Pakistan (Reuters) - About 400 school children were killed in northwestern Pakistan when a quake struck the region on Saturday and their schools collapsed, police said.



and finaly this

Alaska Town Says Bridge Is Not Boondoggle

ANCHORAGE, Alaska - Let others sneer at Southeast Alaska's so-called "bridge to nowhere." Leaders in Ketchikan, the small port town on the receiving end of the project, call it a bridge to the future.


GravatarI actually like big band stuff from the 30s and 40s.


GravatarANCHORAGE, Alaska - Let others sneer at Southeast Alaska's so-called "bridge to nowhere." Leaders in Ketchikan, the small port town on the receiving end of the project, call it a bridge to the future.

Hooray for the future!

Who knew it was so easy to get there?


GravatarJay C.: The General linked to Paul Anka's cover CD recently. The cover of Oasis' "Wonderwall" is pretty finger-snapping.

Oh, it'll never beat Pat Boone's In A Metal Mood.

True story: I worked for a former bassist with Pat Boone's band. At the Evil Empire.

Okay, now I go to WU!
.


GravatarThere has to be a liaison between the left and the Soft Chewy Center™. Someone who can calmly, quietly make him/herself understood.






Robert F. Kennedy (for all his faults) had that quality.



and as for the post at top of this thread:re "Judy' and 'Plamegate..' this was a fascinating read...


GravatarThanks for the link CEA - Arianna puts it quite succintly, "...in the end, Plamegate isn't about the outing of Valerie Plame or the sliming of Joe Wilson. It's about Iraq and the White House's attempt to slam the door on questions about the corrupted intelligence that was used to lead us into a disastrous war."

A-ring-a-ding-ding!


GravatarI wonder if Rove will ever return from his "long planned family trip to visit colleges with his teeneage son"? Methinks he might not. Is he willing to take one for the team, or will he turn on his fellow petrolsexuals?


GravatarThe Mohammedan Menace is coming
to get him!!!!!


simels ... What is the "Mohammedan Menace" stuff? I missed that reference.


GravatarGo Horns!


GravatarTalking to Gary is like talking to road kill.

With all the charm of a dead armadillo.
Jay C


With about as much intellect!


GravatarWho knew it was so easy to get there?


Perhaps we should we just build a bridge to outspace!!


GravatarLife doesn't begin when the child exits the womb, it begins at conception.

So infertile parents (ahem *John Roberts* ahem) who try in vitro fertilization are mass murderers? It's expected to have three fertile embryos "die" for every one that "lives."


GravatarMohammedan Menace


Toby's bullshit.

That "Islamofascist" are favorites of the wingnuts.


GravatarThat AND "Islamofascist"


Gravatarpetrolsexuals?

I am SO stealing that.


Gravatar"Don't ya hate when that happens?"

the band jams...noted that the drummer played with zappa, and musta been hired for this gig because he's one of the best sightreading session drummers around...it's recorded a bit too bright for big band, but that's what they all do these days...anyway, here's a list of tunes:

it's my life, true, eye of the tiger(this works better then the original), wonderwall, blackhole sun, it's a sin, jump(!), smells like teen spirit, hello, eyes without a face, lovecats, the way you make me feel, tears in heaven.


GravatarWith all the charm of a dead armadillo.


The dead armadillo is more appealing.


GravatarI'm the goddamned Hitler and Stalin of sperm genocide.


GravatarWho knew it was so easy to get there?

I always knew the future would be a barren wasteland.


Gravatar Life begins at conception, therefore unborn children are people.

So you think that the sperm and the ova are dead?


GravatarIt is the lack of good faith and social policies of the government which makes abortion a necessary part of this nation.
chica toxica


But chica, they tried to fix that in Indiana and them evil liberals made them stop. You know, the bill that said only married women could have children (all others to the left for your quickie abortion) and children could only be born if they were the product of sexual intercourse (all others to the left for your quickie abortion).

Evil liberals just won't let anyone have some fun!


GravatarTexas is obliterating Oklahoma.

Well, it needed to be done.

Oh, you're talking football? Sorry.


Gravatarwhen it gets to a big band version of 'black hole sun' i gotta take a look...freaking paul anka

oo i wanna hear that. does it sound absurd like in a william shatner kinda way?


GravatarI always knew the future would be a barren wasteland.

I was pretty sure it would be... warmer.


Gravatar"I actually like big band stuff from the 30s and 40s.
fourlegsgood"

i'm with ya, man...one of the pleasures and fortunate things of my life to be turned onto big band before everyone died off....


GravatarSo you think that the sperm and the ova are dead?

They are *so* ova.


GravatarSo you think that the sperm and the ova are dead?

My ova are crying out for due process even as I type!


GravatarBack to the original topic.
So let me get this straight. They all go before the GJ for the first time (or two or three) with their version of the story. Then some inconvenient new facts arise from Judy's "found" notes and now they all are clamoring to go back to the GJ to revise their story in light of the new facts. This means that some or all of their original story is BS. And they just get a second chance to correct the no longer operable statements.

How is this not perjury?

Would any of us regular Americans get a second (say nothing about a third or fourth) chance in front of a Grand Jury if it became clear that we lied in our testimony?


GravatarI always knew the future would be a barren wasteland.

I was pretty sure it would be... warmer.


Exxon's working on it.


Gravatarhe $223 million, two-bridge project would connect the town's airport to Revillagigedo Island, where most of the 13,000 residents of the Ketchikan Gateway Borough live.

The airport is separated from its users by a quarter-mile-wide channel of water, forcing travelers to catch either a ferry or a water taxi.

Some Ketchikan leaders want to rename the airport after Rep. Don Young (news, bio, voting record), R-Alaska, for the all the federal money he's brought to the area, including the bridge. Young is chairman of the House Transportation Committee.


GravatarDue process of Law? What, like Roe Vs Wade? Or the legally required medical advice before offering or performing an abortion? Wait, in Ruppert-land, all that Law is evil and wrong! I DEMAND A NEW PROCESS!

In the meantime, I am currently sitting here killing billions of lives by slowly shedding skin cells onto the carpet. Someone due process of Law my murderous ass!


GravatarI am SO stealing that.


Me too. We have so many in this state.


We also have a bunch of christosexuals. Double-dog dare christosexuals.


GravatarLife begins at conception,

Says you.


GravatarANCHORAGE, Alaska - Let others sneer at Southeast Alaska's so-called "bridge to nowhere." Leaders in Ketchikan, the small port town on the receiving end of the project, call it a bridge to the future.





You can now take the Ketchikan Bridge to the Ketchikan Dollar Store!
A trip so easy you'll want to visit again and again and again!!!


GravatarGive us due process!
Give us due process!
Give us due process!

x 1,000,000


GravatarI head Anka's "Smells Like Teen Spirit" as well. Kind of reminded me of Van Morrison's "Moondance" for some reason.

Not as fun as Shatner's stuff, since at least Bill has that twinkle of irony about him.


GravatarMona Charen looks prepared for the rapture on c-span.

What, no takers?
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Gravatar petrolsexuals?

I am SO stealing that.


Gives a whole new meaning to "or-gas-m."


GravatarWhen he can get pregnant, then and only then should he open his mouth!

He's doing his part; he licks his hands after he wanks so all that life doesn't get wasted.


GravatarI was pretty sure it would be... warmer.


I was pretty sure it would involve me having a flying car.

Dreams die hard.


GravatarLife begins at conception

Then allow a dependent deduction at conception, bizatch.


GravatarI head Anka's "Smells Like Teen Spirit" as well. Kind of reminded me of Van Morrison's "Moondance" for some reason.

Heard the Nirvana edition of that song recently (played REALLY loud). It holds up nicely. Very nicely.

Got my first kiss while "Moondance" was playing.

/sighs


GravatarWe also have a bunch of christosexuals. Double-dog dare christosexuals.

Christomethsexuals?


GravatarSeriously, if this betrayal is as bad as I think it is, how can anyone ever take the Times seriously again?

I don't read it anymore. I mean, after the 2000 election, Wen Ho Lee, Whitewater, Jason Blair and its atrocious complicity in the WMD fiasco, they're not worth taking seriously. I read the blogs instead.
Heh


I don't go to any American source for news.

We don't have media in this country anymore; we have GOP whores.


Gravatar"oo i wanna hear that. does it sound absurd like in a william shatner kinda way?
jello"

it struck me as very absurd, but not in a shatner way...anka can sing, i'll give him that...it's just that i'm used to the big band standards and it's very wierd to hear the words to blackhole sun in the context of a big band...it's very surreal to me...kind of like hearing ella fitzgerald doing NIN or something...


GravatarWhen he can get pregnant, then and only then should he open his mouth!

He's doing his part; he licks his hands after he wanks so all that life doesn't get wasted.
chica toxica




GravatarChristomethsexuals?


Or something.


Gravatar"Got my first kiss while "Moondance" was playing.

/sighs
res ipsa loquitur"

sweeet!


Gravatarhe $223 million, two-bridge project would connect the town's airport to Revillagigedo Island, where most of the 13,000 residents of the Ketchikan Gateway Borough live.

Atrios made a good point. If everyone understands there's going to be pork in spending bills, why can't they make the pork projects useful? Couldn't they have built a state of the art telescope or research lab in that guy's district? Something? I mean, a stupid bridge? C'mon.


GravatarMona Charen



Nasty bitch!


GravatarWould any of us regular Americans get a second (say nothing about a third or fourth) chance in front of a Grand Jury if it became clear that we lied in our testimony?
Marchbleed


Yes, if we might possibly implicate others in the crime....or even further perjure (hmmmm!) ourselves.


Gravatar And they just get a second chance to correct the no longer operable statements.

Or, to put it another way, Fitzgerald now gets the truth from the witnesses, and can put the whole thing together.

That may mean more to him than perjury charges, but yes, lying under oath is definitely perjury.


GravatarcrystalMethodists


GravatarBTW, jdw, I have a bone to pick with you.


I saw that photo of the kitties staking out the chipmunk under the stove.

I got one thing to say.









With that kitchen floor you're raggin on me for my coffee table?????


Gravatar"Got my first kiss while "Moondance" was playing.

/sighs
res ipsa loquitur"

sweeet!


It was "Tupelo Honey" for me.


GravatarGives a whole new meaning to "or-gas-m."

Not to mention "wargasm."


GravatarI can't wait until Rush and O'Lielly and the rest are out of work. And they will be eventually.
Tena


The pendulum always swings back.

When it does, Limpdick and Falafel are going down!


Gravatarreuters
NEW ORLEANS - Mayor C. Ray Nagin hopes to attract tourists and their cash back to his ravaged city with an "out-of-the-box" plan to install Las Vegas-style gambling in the city's biggest hotels


GravatarUnless they are *positive* she's David Souter with a vagina, they should attack her as a crony pick, which I think would really resonate after Drownie exposed the folly of such appointments.
Eli


This is what grinds my teefs on this thing; here's a nominee we should be able to absolutely demolish, and the Reps will be only too happy to help, some of 'em, and if we do kill her nomination--well, if the


GravatarWow! Great reading, including the comments.

I hope we're seeing history made here and the light at the end of a tunnel.

I want them all to go down. Every single one of them.


Gravatarit's very surreal to me...kind of like hearing ella fitzgerald doing NIN or something...

You should check out Richard Cheese and Black Velvet Flag.


GravatarCOOLIO!!!


Nike has come out with non-prescription sunglass contacts.


That's what I need- I am fucking BLIND in the bright sun.


GravatarLife begins at conception



And ends at birth.


GravatarWith that kitchen floor you're raggin on me for my coffee table?????
fourlegsgood"

uh, it was early am and i wasn't using a flash, and the only light was overhead incandescent which makes everything look yellow...bad lighting and all that...i stand by my kitchen floor..


GravatarMona Charen ...

Saw her once on the span shrieking that "Stalinist MObs" were running Americas universities.

Note to admissions officers at the Ivies: REJECT THE CHAREN CHILDREN.


GravatarNot to mention "wargasm."
monica_nyc


And I guess Hummers give one "cargasms."


GravatarNike has come out with non-prescription sunglass contacts.

A few baseball players wore them during day games this year. The lenses had a red-orange tint, making them look Satanic.

It was impossibly cooler than the flip-top shades some of them wear.


GravatarIt was "Tupelo Honey" for me.

That was the song my son and daughter-in-law danced to at their wedding. He recently bought her an iPod and had "As sweet as tupelo honey" inscribed on the back. He's a sweet guy, if I do say so myself.


Gravatari stand by my kitchen floor..

That doesn't sound quite right...


GravatarUnless they are *positive* she's David Souter with a vagina, they should attack her as a crony pick, which I think would really resonate after Drownie exposed the folly of such appointments.

Eli


This is what grinds my teefs on this thing; here's a nominee we should be able to absolutely demolish, and the Reps will be only too happy to help, some of 'em, and if we do kill her nomination--well, if the


GravatarHecate:

You done raised him right!


Gravatarpie, I don't just want them to do down, I want them to pull the entire republican ediface down with them.

And then I want to salt the earth behind them.


I want every dem that ever runs for office anytime, anywhere to make the point that the republican party is the party of corruption, cronyism and traitors.


GravatarI just heard the word, "entitlements" mentioned again as a possible way to cut the budget.

What proportion of the US budget is spent on that, what are the percentages of the various parts?


Gravatar""Got my first kiss while "Moondance" was playing.

/sighs
res ipsa loquitur"

sweeet!

It was "Tupelo Honey" for me.
chica toxica"

two very, very lucky men...

sigh...


GravatarBye for now, friendly moonbats! Off for the weekly dinner with my niece. Polish food today, of the sort I know how to make from scratch but seldom bother to.

Be back later.


GravatarI wonder if Rove will ever return from his "long planned family trip to visit colleges with his teeneage son"? Methinks he might not. Is he willing to take one for the team, or will he turn on his fellow petrolsexuals?
Tow

Why does this episode of The Sopranos pop into my head?
http://tinyurl.com/d6luo


GravatarI can't wait until Rush and O'Lielly and the rest are out of work. And they will be eventually.
Tena


You mean like:

Charles Colson

Gordon Liddy

The Iran Contra Conspirators

Everybody in the Nixon Administration now working for Bush like Rumsfeld and Cheney

Falwell/Robertson/Vigerie who all arrived on the scene in the late 70s.


GravatarMona Charen ...

Saw her once on the span shrieking that "Stalinist MObs" were running Americas universities.

Note to admissions officers at the Ivies: REJECT THE CHAREN CHILDREN.
res ipsa loquitur


People like her should NOT be permitted to breed.


GravatarUnless they are *positive* she's David Souter with a vagina, they should attack her as a crony pick, which I think would really resonate after Drownie exposed the folly of such appointments.
Eli


This is what grinds my teefs on this thing; here's a nominee we should be able to absolutely demolish, and the Reps will be only too happy to help, some of 'em, and if we do kill her nomination--well, if the Republicans do it; they have the reins on this buggy ride--then whatta we got? Personally, I think we'd go from the frying pan into the fire. Someone so Fundiegelical he/she drools and breaths fire at the same time. We'd get Dobson himself, or maybe Robinson, even. The sane Reps would shake their heads and vote to accept, tha Jeezo brigade would all have simultaneous orgasms, and the Dems wouldn't know what hit 'em. I think the Dem leadership looked over the situation, and went "Fire? Frying pan? Frying pan! Right. OK, let's roll". Politics do suck, have I mentioned that?


Gravatar pie, I don't just want them to do down, I want them to pull the entire republican ediface down with them.

And then I want to salt the earth behind them.


I want every dem that ever runs for office anytime, anywhere to make the point that the republican party is the party of corruption, cronyism and traitors.


Exactly. They pretty well blew it after Nixon, though. What a missed opportunity.


GravatarA few baseball players wore them during day games this year. The lenses had a red-orange tint, making them look Satanic.


Well, that does it. I would love to freak out my local bible thumpers by looking satanic.

Or moreso than normal, anyhow.


GravatarHell-O-Scam is downright weird today...
Gee what a surprise.


GravatarExactly. They pretty well blew it after Nixon, though. What a missed opportunity.


They acted like Nixon was an aberration.


He wasn't.


GravatarWhat proportion of the US budget is spent on that, what are the percentages of the various parts?

Are we counting "entitlements" for big companies and wealthy individuals?


Gravatar"We'd get Dobson himself, or maybe Robinson, even. The sane Reps would shake their heads and vote to accept, tha Jeezo brigade would all have simultaneous orgasms, and the Dems wouldn't know what hit 'em. I think the Dem leadership looked over the situation, and went "Fire? Frying pan? Frying pan! Right. OK, let's roll". Politics do suck, have I mentioned that?
Doozer"

exactly...it sucks, but anyone the chimp appoints would suck...as choices go, to me this is a no-brainer and a brilliant move by reid..


GravatarStalinist?


Please! What Hitler and the U.S.S.R, couldn't do, this administration has in five years.


GravatarAre we counting "entitlements" for big companies and wealthy individuals?

The whole pie. I'd include as a separate catagory, tax breaks and subsidies for corps.


GravatarThey acted like Nixon was an aberration.

More like the embodiment.

This time there are so many "non-Bush" Republican scandals that it should theoretically be very easy to depict the Republicans as fundamentally corrupt.


GravatarPersonally, I think we'd go from the frying pan into the fire



Exactly!


Gravatardon't be too hard on the times...all they need is a family meeting to decide on a new publisher if that becomes necessary. the times still has an inherently decent and competent staff and there is still hope for it.


GravatarI got my first kiss to Little Surfer Girl.

Wish it had been Wild Thing instead.




GravatarThis time there are so many "non-Bush" Republican scandals that it should theoretically be very easy to depict the Republicans as fundamentally corrupt.

See, e.g., Ohio, State of.


GravatarPlease! What Hitler and the U.S.S.R, couldn't do, this administration has in five years.


Compare

And contrast.


GravatarAnd then I want to salt the earth behind them.

Yes, we don't want any *they was robbed* nonsense or *they did it for the good of the country bullshit*. Traitors, the lot of them.

They have done unbelievable damage, some of which many never be repaired.


Gravatarexactly...it sucks, but anyone the chimp appoints would suck...as choices go, to me this is a no-brainer and a brilliant move by reid..

And the next time the Democrats try to call the Bushies on their cronyism?

"You voted for it."


GravatarSee, e.g., Ohio, State of.

And Frist, and DeLay, and Abramoff and everyone in his orbit...


GravatarIslamofascists are deadly and dangerous.
The Bush Xtian crew is deadly and dangerous.
Abortion is horrific.
I support pro-choice.
Life begins before the beginning.
We are already dead and we can never die.


GravatarThe Mohammedan Menace is coming
to get him!!!!!

simels ... What is the "Mohammedan Menace" stuff? I missed that reference.
res ipsa loquitur | 10.08.05 - 4:05 pm | #


Toby coined that a couple of months
ago.
and we made merciless fun of him as
a result.


Has a nice racist ring to it,
though....kind of like the
Yellow Peril!


GravatarAnd the next time the Democrats try to call the Bushies on their cronyism?


John Paul Stevens: Born 1920

Earliest possible month Dems can appoint a successor: January 2009


GravatarLast week's Newsweek had a "Circle of Delay" graphic, which showed the Abramoff connections, etc.

A pretty simple thing that made one of my brothers stop and say "Holy shit. I thought they were corrupt, but this is, like, corrupt!

Shout it from the rooftops.


GravatarAny SCOTUS pick Bush makes is bound to be bad. The great thing about Miers is that she's really pissing off most of the Republican party. Dems should attack her as the unqualifed crony she is but draw out the process of confirmation as long as possible to do maximum damage toh Republican image.


GravatarEarliest possible month Dems can appoint a successor: January 2009

Earliest possible month Dems can block a Bush nominee: January 2007.


GravatarTalking to Gary is like talking to road kill.
Unpleasant and pointless.
fourlegsgood


[whispering]
Ssshhhhhhh.When we talk like that, we're worse than the trolls and trollfeeders combined. I read that right here in this Blat™room, so it must be true...


Gravatar Any SCOTUS pick Bush makes is bound to be bad. The great thing about Miers is that she's really pissing off most of the Republican party.

Lesson I take.

Republican base: Bush appoints a born again Christian to the court and they're in full rebellion because it's not exactly the one they wanted.

Democratic base: Democrats vote for the war. Thank you sir. May I have another.


GravatarI got my first kiss to Little Surfer Girl.

Wish it had been Wild Thing instead.



Tena





Hey at least it wasn't 'Leader of the Laundromat!' (if you recall that gem of the era!......perhaps preceeding wild thing by 3 years?


GravatarI'm not telling anybody here what
song I got my first kiss to.

I see no reason to bring the
Spanish-American war into the
discussion.


Gravatar"And the next time the Democrats try to call the Bushies on their cronyism?

"You voted for it."
Eli"

they already started that with brownie, anyway...

we are gonna get a cronie anyway, it's just a degree of seperation deal..


Gravatari didn't get music with my first kiss, which occured in the bunny shed of little mary ellen c___ when i was in 5th(?) grade...i can still smell the bunny shit...


GravatarI got my first kiss to Little Surfer Girl.

Wish it had been Wild Thing instead.


My first kiss occurred without any music. It was, however, followed a little later by my first sex...

I think I may have said too much.


Gravatarthey already started that with brownie, anyway...

Brownie was confirmed to be FEMA's Chief Counsel. Brownie was a lawyer before he was doing the horse shows... so he was slightly less unqualified for the position than when he was Director.

By the time he had the top job, FEMA was part of the bloated Department of Homeland "Security" and wasn't subject to Senate confirmation.


GravatarBrownie was confirmed to be FEMA's Chief Counsel.

I didn't know that. Why wasn't that mentioned when everyone was bitching about lieberman voting for him?


Gravatar SWR | 10.08.05 - 4:30 pm | #

I'm not saying they should vote for her, I don't think she deserves any D votes. She is an opportunity to sow dissent in the Republican ranks though and they ought to make the most of it.


GravatarWhy wasn't that mentioned when everyone was bitching about lieberman voting for him?

I'm not sure that many people realized that. It was true that Lieberman did confirm him, but no-one double checked that it was for the same job.


Gravatarwe are gonna get a cronie anyway, it's just a degree of seperation deal..
jdw


I don't mind that they are all cronies, I mind that they are all incompetent. Doesn't Chimpy have any friends with any skills?


GravatarDoesn't Chimpy have any friends with any skills?

The smart ones aren't going anywhere near him.


GravatarWhat a wonderful 3 day weekend this looks to be!

Doors is open, no a/c on, and it's almost too cool. Sunny beautiful day.

.


Gravatargravie?


GravatarI'm not telling anybody here what
song I got my first kiss to.

I see no reason to bring the
Spanish-American war into the
discussion.

steve simels






note to self: do not mention Al Jolsen


GravatarDoesn't Chimpy have any friends with any skills?



Fuck, no!

People like that make him feel bad about himself.


Gravatarsimels ... What is the "Mohammedan Menace" stuff? I missed that reference.
res ipsa loquitur | 10.08.05 - 4:05 pm | #

Toby coined that a couple of months
ago.
and we made merciless fun of him as
a result.


Has a nice racist ring to it,
though....kind of like the
Yellow Peril!
steve simels


Then he's calling a 9-11 widow a prostitute.


Gravatar"I don't mind that they are all cronies, I mind that they are all incompetent. Doesn't Chimpy have any friends with any skills?
CEA"

well, roberts was highly qualified..to me, he's much more dangerous then meirs...i'd rather take a lightly qualified toady(and one that has shown a degree of reasonableness) in this case then a brilliant fascist...


GravatarFirst kiss?

Tommy Boyce and Bobby Hart - I Wonder What She's Doin' Tonight?

Jeez, that's been a long time ago.


GravatarOld Man from Scene 54 - I like all your comments on this. I agree with you completely.

People are talking like the Democrats have already all voted in favor of Meirs. As far as I know, there hasn't been a vote yet.

There also hasn't been a hearing yet. Who knows what we might find out there?


GravatarLest anyone think I don't know this - I do know that Wild Thing came out years after Little Surfer Girl.

It was just a funny.


GravatarSWR | 10.08.05 - 4:24 pm | #




SAME....OLD....SHIT!

Learn a new tune, please!


GravatarI think I may have said too much.

Somehow I get the idea that you were about 12 or 13 at the time, too.


GravatarWhich "Wild Thing"?

The original (The Troggs, was it?)


Tone Loc did one later.


GravatarThanks, chica and Tena, for clarifying re: GJs and perjury. Let's hope Fitz goes for the jugular on every single charge.


GravatarSomehow I get the idea that you were about 12 or 13 at the time, too.
Tena


You give me too much credit. Or discredit.

16.


Gravatar"Life begins at conception, therefore unborn children are people."

Of course, didn't you know there is a miniature fully formed able to function child in every embryo immediately upon fertilization?


GravatarLuke --
I thought every sperm was sacred, whereas (unclean) women have nothing to do with the process except incubation (teaching of Holy Mother Church for centuries -- to be fair, they didn't have microscopes)


GravatarAs I recall, Wilson later reported that he published his op-ed essay finally because he was warned that the WHIG was "working him up" for a preemptive strike.

Fascinating stuff; just as entertaining as the Watergate investigation.


Gravatartherefore unborn children are people."


They're embryos.

They're fetuses.

They're NOT children until after they are born!


GravatarThe notes were in her other dress.

The blue one.
Hecate

-The one with the stains.


GravatarSetting aside the probabilities that Fitz will prosecute someone for the leak I think when it comes to the matter of the perjruy of all the players he will probably wisely just lay out the whole sordid story and leave it at that. The effort to try the cases would be massive and pardon waits in the wings.

Sadly the court of public opinion, the voting booth probably won't bring us justice. So it goes.


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