I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
hoo yeah!
they must contact our trolls for reassurance. see, its wilson that will be indicted.
nice squid!
damn
Haven't read the link...
A gift from the Great Giftie!
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goodbye ruppert, well goodbye ruppert
Come to Southweschacon in Austin, next Friday. There's... drink tickets? Although I'm not sure what they are. There will be alcohol... I believe.
Bush presidency: FIERY WRECK!
Everyone in prison's innocent, right?
4Leggers--Maxx will be home safe and sound soon. I'll light a blue candle to protect him.
I swear, the very sentence I had highlighted, ready to post. And then there's the new Syrian border clashes.
Oh well.
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JAIL ROVE NOW!
JAIL FRIST NOW!
JAIL DELAY YESTERDAY!
Come to Southweschacon in Austin, next Friday. There's... drink tickets? Although I'm not sure what they are. There will be alcohol... I believe.
photos. we demand photos.
Fuck that motherfucker!
Rove, I mean.
Well, I'll have photos. I just... may not have participants. 
A truth that's told with bad intent
Beats all the lies you can invent
William Blake
+++
There's no real reason to go to war in Iraq, but in the next few weeks I anticipate we will dive into a humongous clusterfuck.
Is this hope that I'm feelng?
Why, yes. Yes it is.
There's no real reason to go to war in Iraq, but in the next few weeks I anticipate we will dive into a humongous clusterfuck.
Thers, Do you mean Syria? NYT has a headline up about "clashes along the border."
There's no real reason to go to war in Iraq, but in the next few weeks I anticipate we will dive into a humongous clusterfuck.
Have I gone back in time? Is it still not too late to change things?
What is that picture? A footprint of a very thin person?
What is that picture? A footprint of a very thin person?
It might be a frog's foot.
What is that picture? A footprint of a very thin person?
I thought it kinda looked like a frog's foot, myself. But then, I've had way too much wine and am very tired.
yuk..why not send us directly to the WP? screw the drumster..
The key graph: "Rove's defense team asserts that President Bush's deputy chief of staff has not committed a crime but nevertheless anticipates that special prosecutor Patrick J. Fitzgerald could find a way to bring charges in the next two weeks, the source said.
"The special counsel has not advised Mr. Rove that he is a target of the investigation and affirmed that he has made no decision concerning charges," Robert Luskin, Rove's attorney, said in a statement."
ribbit ribbit...
Is that your gravitar? What is it? the crop from a cartoon turkey?
I think everyone is on the same page in DC and in the big media now. No crime was committed even though there will be indictments.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
will there be a perp walk, with a mug shot and fingerprinting?
please say yes.
please say yes.
please say yes.
Jaguar? Celica?
Who cares? You can't drive either one when your ass is sitting in jail.
Drive-by New-Layout Whore: I moved my blog to a new host and set up new software this week. Now when A links to me (once I blog something good), my damn server won't crash.
Come and admire the bloggy stylishness!
hmm if were going back in time, can we go back to that fake riot. i want to kick some republican staffer ass.
the bad news is, it looks like judyjudy isn't gonna be charged...guess she'll get hers in hell...
Come to Southweschacon in Austin, next Friday. There's... drink tickets? Although I'm not sure what they are. There will be alcohol... I believe.
That's the spirit!
"What is the problem with Iraq getting yellow cake? Cake is one of the basic food groups, so why can't Iraqis have any?
What? Oh...
Never mind..."
- Emily Litella
I think everyone is on the same page in DC and in the big media now. No crime was committed even though there will be indictments.
The jury may differ.
If you come to Southweschacon, you can follow up the next day and come with me and Majikthise to take pictures of Tom DeLay either in handcuffs or walking with a bunch of people booing and taking pictures! And alcohol.
id rather see novak charged than judy, just barely.
Everyone in prison's innocent, right?
I'm just a simple songwriter.
Heh. The stinking GOP is fucked!
Those clowns stand for nothing!!!!
Rove indicted will be a beautiful thing - lets get on with it. A show trial, and then straight to the gallows. Put his head on a pike on the Francis Scott Key Bridge as warning to others who dare defile our great country.
Everyone in prison's innocent, right?
I'm just a simple songwriter.
Charlie Manson | Email | 10.15.05 - 12:27 am | #
And I a mere struggling law student.
Hiya stranger!
mmmmmmmmmm....alcohol......
id rather see novak charged than judy, just barely.
pretzelattack
Oh, don't make me choose.
Heh. The stinking GOP is fucked!
My son and I were watching the news earlier. They were running down the list of the current "troubles" being experienced by the GOP: Delay, Frist, Rove/Libby, the Katrina mess, yesterday's botched PR stunt... My son asked me, "Mom, does this mean that the Republicans are fucked?" "Yes, son, yes it does," I replied. "Good," he said, "about fucking time." I love that boy.
Hiya, NYMary!
Outside of this damn rain, I gotta say it's been a good week.
Might stop raining tomorrow. That'd be nice.
Hey, SYRIA!!! Yea boy, a brand new invasion will certainly take up all of the press' attention for the next month or two. Wasn't much going on in news anyway since they didn't get the 10K dead people they were hoping, I mean, expecting to find in NO. Have we build our smart bomb arsenal back up enough for another 'Rreally big shoe-w' yet?
"Coming Wednesday night, here on NBC"
This is preposterous! There was no crime committed. And even if there was, Karl Rove had NOTHING to do with it.
This is preposterous! She wasn't undercover. And even if there was, Karl Rove had NOTHING to do with it.
This is preposterous! This is how things are done in DC, simply playing hardball. And even if it was, Karl Rove had NOTHING to do with it.
This is preposterous! If there were violations of the Espionage Act, then there's your problem, we thought Toensig's IIPA superceded that law. And even if it didn't, Karl Rove had NOTHING to do with it.
This is preposterous! An out of control prosecutor is punch drunk, mad with power, making a mountain out of a molehill. And even if there are felonies, Karl Rove had NOTHING to do with it.
(Graveyard Whistle Blues, words and lyrics by Robert Luskin)
It always comes back to cake.
And Monsieur is willing to share his German chocolate birthday cake with all of you.
Why, I don't know 
If Rove's indicted I think they will dispense with the standard fake terror warnings and set off an actual bomb.
hmm, i wonder if Rove ever met Ted Bundy when Bundy was a young republican?
My son asked me, "Mom, does this mean that the Republicans are fucked?" "Yes, son, yes it does," I replied. "Good," he said, "about fucking time." I love that boy.
Ya gotta raise 'em right....
hmm, i wonder if Rove ever met Ted Bundy when Bundy was a young republican?
Who do you think wrapped my wrist in all those fake casts I used to score those chicks?
My son asked me, "Mom, does this mean that the Republicans are fucked?" "Yes, son, yes it does," I replied. "Good," he said, "about fucking time." I love that boy.
sounds like the young man has a level head on his shoulders.
the bad news is, it looks like judyjudy isn't gonna be charged...guess she'll get hers in hell...
jdw
She's already ruint, and will be publicly soiled even further I'd guess. And then there's Wilson & Plame's civil action to follow the criminal feast. Actual malice is a gimme with Damn Judith.
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Follow all the Karl Rove fun and frolic at:
The Rove/PlameGate Scandal Resource Center.
My son asked me, "Mom, does this mean that the Republicans are fucked?" "Yes, son, yes it does," I replied. "Good," he said, "about fucking time." I love that boy.
Is this what the youth of America has come to?
There may be hope for the future after all.
Is that Michigan J. Frog's cute little foot?
Mrs. I,
If that doesn't work, they'll try the "We never really liked him anyway, he's not that important, the president barely knows him" line.
When is DeLay (R-Indicted) going to have his mug shot taken? I want a large poster of it.
German Chocolate Cake?
Heaven, I'm in heaven....
Hate to have to say it, but "We Don't Get Fooled Again!"
Been a depressing evening, folks.
they'll claim that Clinton let Rove sleep in the Lincoln bedroom 12 times.
Nite, 'bats. Must have sleep to battle the wingnuts another day.
Peace out!
German Chocolate Cake
Where is the milk, there must be milk, cold and fresh. And about 12 hours to sleep off the effects afterward.
nite bigvic
I want to see the whole WHIG go down.
xmas in october!!
i shall be karl rove in an orange jumpsuit for halloween!!
i'm going to put a crash test dummy with scooter libby's face on it on the front porch!!
this is going to be the best holiday EVARRR
EkCenTrik--will 2% do?
hmm no trolls telling us about the plame indictment.
i shall be karl rove in an orange jumpsuit for halloween!!
If I were in DC this Halloween (where my bro lives) I'd go as a Federal Prosecutor wil a briefcase full of indictments to hand out & really scare the shit out of (some) people in his neighborhood.
My son and I were watching the news earlier. They were running down the list of the current "troubles" being experienced by the GOP: Delay, Frist, Rove/Libby, the Katrina mess, yesterday's botched PR stunt... My son asked me, "Mom, does this mean that the Republicans are fucked?" "Yes, son, yes it does," I replied. "Good," he said, "about fucking time." I love that boy.
I heart him too!
WaPo jump:
Instead, the lawyers, who based their opinions on the kinds of questions Fitzgerald is asking and not on firsthand knowledge, think the special prosecutor may be headed in a different direction. They said Fitzgerald could be trying to establish that a group of White House officials violated the Espionage Act, which prohibits the disclosure of classified material, or that they engaged in a conspiracy to discredit Wilson in part by identifying Plame.
break out the Evelyn "Champagne" King singles!
hmm no trolls telling us about the plame indictment.
Next week, when the indictments come down, will all of their heads explode simultaneously, or in sequence? Inquiring minds want to know.
Thinly Veiled--at any rate, I've got plenty of plastic sheeting in the event of a simultaneous explosion.
thus the cry from the Republican supporters, quislings and others who have thrown their lot in with the liard --
liars such timmydee and tweetydummer
who are spouting the myth of it was just politics they were just supporting their team....their team of liars
How is it that they just don't get it. It's not about the game here -it's about a president who lied to gain support for his policies and when challenged kills his opponents.
But he's a macho man....
"Rove's defense team asserts that President Bush's deputy chief of staff has not committed a crime"
That's because it is just politics as usual, and that's not a crime! You people are criminalizing politics.
Didn't ya'll get the freaking talking points! Ruppert, would you PLEAZ talk to these people!
ribit . . . ribit . . . ribit . . .
If I were in DC this Halloween (where my bro lives) I'd go as a Federal Prosecutor wil a briefcase full of indictments to hand out & really scare the shit out of (some) people in his neighborhood.
The Old Man From Scene 24 | Email | 10.15.05
LOL
Has Limpballs piped in yet about the race of the Grand Jury members?
That will be one of the spins of the Little Green Snotball folks. "indicted by a black jury of Democrats"
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2% will be just fine.
The wife won't let me have anything else.
or that they engaged in a conspiracy to discredit Wilson in part by identifying Plame.
My God! You mean, they might just be prosecuted for the thing they obviously really did?
Shocking.
Smootch!!!!!
Mrs. Ibrahim al-jafaari
You make this late night blog honest. Thanks for that.
There are a few trolls on the Washington Monthyly thread, including some achingly familiar names. *cough*ruppert*cough*
"Rove's defense team asserts that President Bush's deputy chief of staff has not committed a crime"
Argument 101: An assertion without evidence is merely opinion.
EkCenTrik--married a long time? You sound well trained.
Sallyh
That I am, 25 years in November.
There are a few trolls on the Washington Monthyly thread, including some achingly familiar names. *cough*ruppert*cough*
Like Savoir Faire, Gary Ruppert Pupkin is everywhere ...
Next week, when the indictments come down, will all of their heads explode simultaneously, or in sequence?
I suspect we'll get an influx of new Desperation Trolls going on about Clinton & Chappaquiddick.
If Rove's indicted, I think the fallback spin will be that an indictment is not a conviction and doesn't really prove anything.
Like Savoir Faire, Gary Ruppert Pupkin is everywhere ...
I shall always picture trolls as small Francophonic mice from now on, res.
I shall always picture trolls as small Francophonic mice from now on, res.
Um, is that good or bad?
Um, is that good or bad?
I was wondering that myself.
I see a victory in this investigation even if nobody ends up indicted. It's the first time when Rove's way of politics has been openly, and I mean openly, criticized and exposed to a legal scrutiny. The first time when he can't just manipulate things from his backroom position. It makes me believe in the future a little again.
"If Rove's indicted, I think the fallback spin will be that an indictment is not a conviction and doesn't really prove anything."
Eli, I think by then the damage has been done though. Unless it is shown to the public that all charges were completely baseless, the deal is sealed. Getting off on a technicality will not do it.
Just watched George Clooney on the Charlie Rose Show. First time I've seen him do a serious interview. He's quite articulate.
EkCenTrik--how large a slice will Mrs. EkCenTrik permit you to have?
I suspect we'll get an influx of new Desperation Trolls going on about Clinton & Chappaquiddick.
The Old Man From Scene 24
Maybe they'll even drag out the political corpses of Gary Hart and Michael Dukakis, just for kicks.
Eli, I think by then the damage has been done though. Unless it is shown to the public that all charges were completely baseless, the deal is sealed. Getting off on a technicality will not do it.
Innocent until proven guilty! Innocent until proven guilty! Squawrk!!!
Would it be "smart" for Chimpy to pardon them all right now rather than wait for the trial?
BTW If Rove is really Bush's brain, wouldn't he be pardoning himself?
just wonderin'
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Sallyh
Whatever the market will bear She isn't watching. She may control the milk, but I draw the line at dessert.
Just watched George Clooney on the Charlie Rose Show. First time I've seen him do a serious interview. He's quite articulate.
I was watching that too. He was quite good. He'd kick the shit out of that pompous windbag O'Really if he had the courage to show up.
Say, Seebach, how do I get in on some of that hot SouthwEschaCon action?
He's quite articulate.
Racist!
EkCenTrik--Monsieur, who is also very well trained, says that as long as Mrs. E is not looking, go for the gusto.
Geoge Clooney vs. Ron Silver
Now that would be an interesting debate.
If all the trolls' heads explode will the ensuing Cheetos cloud raise the terra threat to orange?
If all the trolls' heads explode will the ensuing Cheetos cloud raise the terra threat to orange?
I'd be a lot more worried about a global warming situation.
Or the dreaded "Cheeto Winter".
Well, I'm fucking stoked.
Wally's about to kill Eddie.
Eli--maybe we need duct tape to go with the plastic sheeting.
If all the trolls' heads explode will the ensuing Cheetos cloud raise the terra threat to orange?
it will certainly play havoc with Frito Lays quarterly profits.
He'd kick the shit out of that pompous windbag O'Really
I was ROFL when Cloonet said An Coulter did something that he would never to to her, and that's question her masculinity.
Or the dreaded "Cheeto Winter".
Eli
Orange snow? I'd like that.
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Innocent until proven guilty! Innocent until proven guilty! Squawrk!!!
In a normal Administration (R or D) an indictment would mean resignation, but with these fascist scum I would not be surprised if they just brush it off, ot even see the Chimperor pardon Rove and/or Libby and/or Dick before they were convicted of anything.
(Didn't Bush the Elder pardon Casper Wienberger even though he hadn't been convicted of anything?)
i recommend that you wait until the fat lady sings.......
distinct possibility that fitz is running a charade - you are watching him, and missing another pic, the invasion of syria and iran.
i could be wrong, but i think fitz is just a large bit of flatulence. all theater.
Central--are you watching 'Leave it to Beaver' again?!
Can't you just watch porn like normal guys?
What a terrible typing job I just did.
...question her masculinity.
Yeah that was a good one 
I think Jello Biafra said it best:
Punk ain't no religious cult
Punk means thinking for yourself
You ain't hardcore cos you spike your hair
When a jock still lives inside your head
Nazi punks
Nazi punks
Nazi punks-Fuck Off!
Nazi punks
Nazi punks
Nazi punks-Fuck Off!
If you've come to fight, get outa here
You ain't no better than the bouncers
We ain't trying to be police
When you ape the cops it ain't anarchy
Nazi punks
Nazi punks
Nazi punks-Fuck Off!
Nazi punks
Nazi punks
Nazi punks-Fuck Off!
Ten guys jump one, what a man
You fight each other, the police state wins
Stab your backs when you trash our halls
Trash a bank if you've got real balls
You still think swastikas look cool
The real nazis run your schools
They're coaches, businessmen and cops
In a real fourth reich you'll be the first to go
Nazi punks
Nazi punks
Nazi punks-Fuck Off!
Nazi punks
Nazi punks
Nazi punks-Fuck Off!
You'll be the first to go
You'll be the first to go
You'll be the first to go
Unless you think
Hmmm. I guess some indictments are just like winning an election.
286-251, bitches.
In a normal Administration (R or D) an indictment would mean resignation, but with these fascist scum I would not be surprised if they just brush it off
Remember when for a split-second, Bush declared that he would fire anyone who was *indicted*?
Then he moved the goalposts farther away and raised the crossbar.
the invasion of syria and iran.
With what Army?
Max--but it's the thought that counts
Sallyh,
Unlike Ward, I'm never hard on the beaver.
What a terrible typing job I just did.
Max Planck
Type, Preview, Read, Correct, Preview, Publish.
With what Army?
The New Model Army. kate moss has signed up, and the new Mrs. Trump is gonna be the drill instructor.
The White House thinks that it would be improper to comment on Karl's status until after his execution.
Then he moved the goalposts farther away and raised the crossbar.
There was a good cartoon recently with some goal posts next to an igloo & two Eskimo looking a the posts. The caption was "I don't know what it means, but I suspect there has been a subtle shift in White House policy".
Type, Preview, Read, Correct, Preview, Publish.
Agent Orange
Too bad everyday conversation doesn't work that way.
"The White House thinks that it would be improper to comment on Karl's status until after his execution."
And oh, wait, how could I forget?
DEAN SCREAMED!
C'mon, trolls--lay into us real good like that!
Bwaaaa!
Guess what? Even when your pasty pig hero gets pardoned--nobody's gonna forget what a fucking traitor piece of scum he is. Ever.
Oh, I almost fogot: Bwaahaahaa!
I'm getting the idea that SouthwEschCon is really just going to be hanging out at Seebach's efficiency drinking beer until the neighbors call the cops.
There was a good cartoon recently with some goal posts next to an igloo & two Eskimo looking a the posts. The caption was "I don't know what it means, but I suspect there has been a subtle shift in White House policy".
saw that too. laughed and laughed. pardoning a traitor ain't gonna play very well in Peoria.
4Leggers--Maxx will be home safe and sound soon. I'll light a blue candle to protect him.
He's back. He let me walk around for an hour looking for him- the whole time he was hiding out on the third floor balcony.
I come back and he's sitting on the doormat.
A moment ago he was sitting in my lap purring like nothing ever happened. Little brat.
There was a good cartoon recently with some goal posts next to an igloo & two Eskimo looking a the posts.
Totally irrelevant, but you do know how Eskimos make babies, right?
They rub their noses together until the little boogers come out!
286-251, bitches.
Toby, this is for you.
Rove's a traitor because he talked to a reporter about some woman who deliberately exposed herself as an agent of the CIA through her husband's staged indiscretion?
The consequence of any indictments against Rove will be a government culture where no clear answers are ever given to the press for fear of the "law."
Congratulate yourselves: you may be rooting for the demise of an informed press. That would be the precursor to totalitarianism, you wretched turds.
"The special prosecutor is conducting a very serious investigation," President Bush said this week. "He's doing it in a very dignified way, by the way.
Read it and weep, oh ye apologists for treason.
And, yes, I can argue one or more circumstances of fact that are treason in this case. Evidence of damage to the nation's security, benefiting our enemies, is yet to be shown and may be highly classified. What man can classify, man can declassify.
Or is the crime of treason never to be charged again, and, like declaring war, left behind with the fuddy-duddy founding fathers?
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Nazi punks-Fuck Off!
After all that Hall & Oates claptrap earlier today, this warms my heart. Fuck Hall & Oates. And the Eagles? I'm with Mojo Nixon: Don Henley Must Die.
Have you heard Jello's collaboration with the Melvins, where he meditates on the kind of person who takes a job as a TSA baggage screener? Comedy gold.
¿Y cómo están todos los murcielagos de la luna?
Sorry, res. I don't patronize traitors.
Sorry, res. I don't patronize traitors.
You patronize *everybody*.
"He's back. He let me walk around for an hour looking for him- the whole time he was hiding out on the third floor balcony."
You passed the test. Cat's periodically do a "(Do you care) check. Coronaries and massive angst are a small price to pay to prove to your pet you have his or her best interests at heart.
res--keep that sofa warm; I may need to crash on it sometime
286-251, bitches.
Is that trollboy's phone number?
Nazi punks-Fuck Off!
I'm barely conscious and read this as "Nazi pants-Fuck Off"...
Why are you guys talking to Toby Roadkill?
After all that Hall & Oates claptrap earlier today, this warms my heart. Fuck Hall & Oates. And the Eagles? I'm with Mojo Nixon: Don Henley Must Die.
Have you heard Jello's collaboration with the Melvins, where he meditates on the kind of person who takes a job as a TSA baggage screener? Comedy gold.
You do know that Jello also collaborated with Mojo, right?
4Leggers--what's happening on the Maxx front?
You passed the test. Cat's periodically do a "(Do you care) check. Coronaries and massive angst are a small price to pay to prove to your pet you have his or her best interests at heart.
Okay.
I shall diminish and go into the west. And remain four legs, mastermind.
Jeebus, just look at Karl Rove's history of tawdry political stunts dating back two decades.
He's the last guy I would trust with state secrets. It's all fucking amusement with that guy.
Remember with Clinton it wasn't the blowjob but the fact that "he lied under oath". So that even if the violation of the Espionage act is "business as usual" the fact remains that Rove most likely lied under oath.
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4Leggers--what's happening on the Maxx front?
He's laying on the couch, cleaning his paws and reveling in his plushiness.
Little bastard.
res--keep that sofa warm; I may need to crash on it sometime
Anytime, Mi'lady. Anytime.
Little brat.?????
Is that trollboy's phone number?
Nope. He thinks he's being crafty by making you do the math. 286 - 251 = trollboy's IQ. Or his Preznitwit's approval rating. Your choice.
I shall diminish and go into the west.
I love that phrase and that scene (in the book & the movie) for some reason.
Eli:
You patronize *everybody*.
I don't think I've been to your site yet. Anything there worth reading?
Don Henley Must Die.
"This is the last
worthless evening...."
Yikes. Didn't notice the new thread. Your indulgence, please, as I repost.
Ha-ha! Negroponte caught with his panties down.
He tried a little black-ops bingo by apparently forging a letter from Ayman al-Zawahri, the No.2 man at al-Qaeda, to guerrilla leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.
Except he forgot to fix the cut-and-paste bloopers.
1. He used a Shi'ite greeting to a Sunni radical!
2. Writing to al-Zarqawi, he tells al-Zarqawi to say "hello" to himself! "And especially, by Allah, if by chance you're going to Falluja, send greetings to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi."
Oopsie!
Remember with Clinton it wasn't the blowjob but the fact that "he lied under oath". So that even if the violation of the Espionage act is "business as usual" the fact remains that Rove most likely lied under oath.
Lying under oath is the quintessential IOKIYAR offense.
4Legs--so how will Maxx be punished? This is, after all, the equivalent of Arthur running off with the Jeep.
I'm barely conscious and read this as "Nazi pants-Fuck Off"...
I don't want to see any Nazis without pants.
Hi bats.
Max Cleland did a good job on Maher tonight. Was he a blue dog? If so, I sure doesn't sound like it now. Bring the troops home!
Toby Petzold
Stuff a sock in it Toby. You are becoming obsolete and quickly might I add.
My dog Hank might end up a three-legged dog if she is lucky. I have to wait another two weeks to know the answer to that one.
Pets do ask for the payment at the end of their lives, don't they?
Little brat.?????
Okay, big plushy brat.
it
286-251, bitches.
Is that trollboy's phone number?
286 - 251 = 35 (the average IQ of those who still support Bush)
4Legs--and of course Maxx is utterly nonchalant.
Do not resuscitate the trolls.
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4legs,
I'm glad to see that Max made it in.
Kids these days. (shrugs)
Don't count your chickens before they hatch... this IS Rove, after all. There's always the pardons... aah, the pardons. I hate being cynical.
Sorry, res. I don't patronize traitors.
You "patronized" by clicking.
Too late, Toby.
In 30 years, when you show up for Eschacon XXX, you'll try to make us all believe that you never supported Bush, that our memories are foggy, that you're the other Toby Petzhold. But we'll never ever forget -- or let you forget -- that you supported the idiot Boy King.
Max, if it could be proved to you that Valerie Plame's employment with the CIA was not a "state secret," would you concede that this whole fiasco is a crock of shit and that no one should be prosecuted?
I wish Paul Lukasiak would start his research on AWOL/Bush again. Now would be the perfect time.... Does anyone know if he's working on it?
4Legs--so how will Maxx be punished? This is, after all, the equivalent of Arthur running off with the Jeep.
I don't know yet. He's certainly not very repentent.
Res, you don't have to click on anything to know that Ted Rall is a piece of shit and a traitor.
Whazzup? RoveHICA!
Happy, drunk, and satisfied!
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Lying under oath is the quintessential IOKIYAR offense.
Eli
Oops, I forgot. Republicans lie for good patriotic reasons - Democrats lie for selfish reasons.
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Central--and aren't you glad that your kids are all the 4 legged variety?
1. He used a Shi'ite greeting to a Sunni radical!
2. Writing to al-Zarqawi, he tells al-Zarqawi to say "hello" to himself! "And especially, by Allah, if by chance you're going to Falluja, send greetings to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi."
DOH!
JP
You started a new job right? How is it going/
Lying under oath is the quintessential IOKIYAR offense.
Eli
Shrub has perfected the corollary to that rule: Fuck the oath.
Here comes the trollboy meltdown....
Oops, I forgot. Republicans lie for good patriotic reasons - Democrats lie for selfish reasons.
Yes - Republicans lie to protect the greater truths.
Max, if it could be proved to you that Valerie Plame's employment with the CIA was not a "state secret," would you concede that this whole fiasco is a crock of shit and that no one should be prosecuted?
Jeffraham--a night out with the ladyfriend?
ese guero,
MELVINS!
but the Nazi Punks, Fuck Off reference is to the scumbag racist troll on this thread. His writings about sterilization and how "those people" don't understand the true meaning of the Stars and Bars, etc... just a fascist scumbag, so whenever he shows up I like to tell him to Fuck Off.
why argue with a Nazi when you can just as easily punch him in the face?
Eli --
Will the feeeetus be abooorted...
Come on, sing along, everyone!
[crickets]
Harrumph.
Or his Preznitwit's approval rating. Your choice.
Yeah that too! 35% Bitches!
Jeffraham, what is HICA?
4Legs--not penitent? Well, he is a cat...
TOBY! You actually VOTED for this guy?
What were you thinking?
"Traitor." BWHAHHAHAHHAHAHAH!
It's you who's the traitor, pal.
But we'll never ever forget -- or let you forget -- that you supported the idiot Boy King.
and wrote glowingly in favor of mass sterilizations for black women. here on eschacon, and at the daily texan. racist scumbag, the Putz is.
DOH!
The Old Man From Scene 24
"I'm gonna sit right down
and write myself a letter.
and make believe
it came from you!"
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Max, if it could be proved to you that Valerie Plame's employment with the CIA was not a "state secret," would you concede that this whole fiasco is a crock of shit and that no one should be prosecuted?
fourlegsgood
Not only that, I would concede that namestealing trolls are clever.
aren't you glad that your kids are all the 4 legged variety?
Indeed!
"Max, if it could be proved to you that Valerie Plame's employment with the CIA was not a "state secret," would you concede that this whole fiasco is a crock of shit and that no one should be prosecuted?"
Then why did the administration allow this to spin so far out of control? If it was not a secret, why didn't the President step up and say something directly, providing clarity and resolving things before we have spent so much time and money on it? If it ain't a secret, there isn't much reason to avoid answering questions.
The answer is there is either enough meat to at least warrant the investigation or the President and his people are complete incompetents in managing the truth.
Or both.
On Weeds :
"How can you be so blithely pro Bush?"
"His wife Laura, I used to buy weed from her at SMU, some good shit."
EkCenTriK: You started a new job right? How is it going/
Thanks for askin'; not bad!
Sallyh: Jeffraham--a night out with the ladyfriend?
Indeed! Had to rush away from the car, tonight, to eliminate the possibility of an indecent exposure charge. I'm such a tease.
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Not only that, I would concede that namestealing trolls are clever.
Max, that was me, screwing up my tags.
That'll teach me to not respond to roadkill.
fourlegsgood: Jeffraham, what is HICA?
HICA = Here It Comes Again
(the more polite forme of the military acronym, "BOHICA," which is "Bend Over...")
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Or both.
EkCenTriK
Both!
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That'll teach me to not respond to roadkill.
Just don't do it. They're stupid, they're ugly, they smell and nobody likes them.
Rock the vote and knock out the power.
Iraqi insurgents knock out power to Baghdad and Basrah and set the Khor al-Zoubaïr oil terminal on fire.
Mrs. I. al-J.
In fact, when I read certain under-bridge-dwelling goat molesters, I don't hear that "zzzzzzzzz" sound that so many other Atriots hear. I hear "Nazi Punks Fuck Off." Weird.
And yes, MELVINS. Zodiac. Anaconda. Mmm-hmm.
Iraqi insurgents knock out power to Baghdad and Basrah and set the Khor al-Zoubaïr oil terminal on fire.
Situation Normal: All Fucked Up.
caught this over at FireDogLake yesterday, but even the bookies have turned on Rove. sportsbook.com is taking bets on when Rove will leave the White House.I wonder what the odds will be in the morning?
Iraqi insurgents knock out power to Baghdad and Basrah and set the Khor al-Zoubaïr oil terminal on fire.
Nur al-Cubicle
Good news for Halliburton stockholders.
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I ask you, is this a face of a cat who looks the least bit sorry?
I'm beginning to think the ladyfriend is past her experimental/rebound stage. Still, playing it close, building a friend relationship...
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So far, you people have been quite deferential to Fitzgerald and unquestioning with respect to his integrity. But, if he were to come back with only a report and no indictments, the viciousness around here would be astounding.
Jeffraham--obviously there's an element of attraction...
So they've held off on smearing Fitzgerald until now, but I imagine with indictments possibly looking imminent that there's gonna be a whole lot of interns preparing a whole lot of blast faxes this weekend for the Wurlitzer, ready for release at a moment's notice.
What they're gonna start doing if/when the indictments hit is gonna make the "Ronnie Earle's playing partisan politics" charade look like the smallest potatoes you've ever seen ...
Good news for Halliburton stockholders.
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Agent Orange
Isn't that the truth. They must giddily announce at the annual stockholders' meeting that "The planet's on fire, special dividends for everyone!"
That'll teach me to not respond to roadkill.
WWJD: What Would Jello Do?
Nazi Punks
Nazi Punks
Nazi Punks
Fuck Off
works really well on Toby Putz, as there is nothing figurative about his fascist tendencies.
Iraqi insurgents knock out power to Baghdad and Basrah and set the Khor al-Zoubaïr oil terminal on fire.
Oh, that's not good. I had heard about the power outage, but not the fire. Ya' know, after all that those poor people have been through....ahh, never mind. My son asked me today why, since they are able to vote now, why they don't just have a referendum asking whether they want the US to stay or go. That would be too obvious, I told him.
4Legs--are you kidding? He looks downright smug!
And the post-patriotic anti-American Left cheer on the savages.
News flash, assholes: your value to the enemy drops as soon as he's got you on your knees with a sword at your necks.
I wonder what Iraq would be like today if it had been invaded by a rational competent leadership? Would it be stable with things like jobs, security, electricty and qdequate gasoline supplies? Would it really be nacent democracy?
But of course if we'd had a competent rational leadership they wouldn't have invaded a country that was no threat in the first place. My bad.
". . . you wretched turds."
I think someone needs to work on their "people skills."
News flash, assholes: your value to the enemy drops as soon as he's got you on your knees with a sword at your necks.
which enemy is the Putz talking about, the Poles, the Jews, the Slavs, or the Africans?
ECT:
Then why did the administration allow this to spin so far out of control?
Because even ratfucking calls for some foreplay.
The enemy is the Republican regime.
But, if he were to come back with only a report and no indictments, the viciousness around here would be astounding.
Toby Petzold
At least a report would exist. BTW, Tobes, link me to a PDF copy of the report of the White House's internal investigation of the matter. You do, I trust, recall that the WH immediately announced that they were undertaking said investigation when the story first broke?
Man, it's SO going to suck to be a Bush supporting troll next week... Almost makes me want to feel sorry for them. Almost.
4Legs--are you kidding? He looks downright smug!
It's infuriating.
Heh. Check
The Village Voice is reporting that a public affairs officer was part of the group of soldiers that President Bush talked to. Her name is Corine Lombardo who works for the military as spokesperson to the media.
Via Crooks & Liars.
which enemy ... the Poles, the Jews, the Slavs, or the Africans?
The Judean People's Front!
Marty:
I think someone needs to work on their "people skills."
Heh, heh. This is mud wrestling, friend. I'm a total sweetheart in person.
4LG...I'm so glad Maxx is back home
4lg
is your cat on heroin? it looks pretty zonked out. canine codeine? fess up.
Sallyh: Jeffraham--obviously there's an element of attraction...
Absolutely, no question o' that. It's just that she's just coming away from a divorce, used to date a friend of mine (before the divorce, btw), and I, of course, have not been in the best "selling position," y'know. It's looking very promising, though. No one has expectations, and we talked about that, tonight (she insisted that I write her a letter, and so I did; much better with the written word, I am, methinks, so we had all that to discuss).
I'm kinda happy about the whole thing, really. Not irrationally exuberant, though. Just happy.
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4LG
Yes, I know that look well. Walk on. It is all you can do. I usually make my standard threat though of getting a dog though. That does seem to arose some concern. One day, heh and the lil cusses will be hip deep in Dacshunds. One day...
Man, it's SO going to suck to be a Bush supporting troll next week... Almost makes me want to feel sorry for them. Almost.
I'm hoping they all spontaneously combust.
Scout--care for some elitist Chardonnay?
Re pardons:
If Bush were to pardon Rove immediately, wouldn't Rove have to be on his bestest behavior for the remainder of Chimpy's term. Or would Rove quit the biz?
If Bush pardons him on his last day in office, that doesn't do much good to Rove, who'll be in jail by then.
Max:
You do, I trust, recall that the WH immediately announced that they were undertaking said investigation when the story first broke?
Yes. Turns out, the answer lies somewhere in the world of Faye Resnick.
One day, heh and the lil cusses will be hip deep in Dacshunds. One day...
Not dacshunds!! those little beast are wiley little troublemakers.
And the post-patriotic anti-American Left cheer on the savages.
Toby, The "traitor," "anti-American left" shit is soooooooooo 2001.
Let your little David-Horowitz-inspired fantasies go and join the ranks of the thinking people.
"Because even ratfucking calls for some foreplay."
Is that the best you can come up with? Or did somebody name steal Toby?
QUIT TALKING TO THE ROADKILL!!
Thank you.
res, there was/is a recommended diary about Lombardo up over at Kos earlier that quoted much of the Village Voice piece. Some folks went digging and apparently she's been a PR person for some time; may have even met Bush at some point.
Propaganda techniques taken straight from the Brezhnev era CPSU ...
This assholes stuff is getting stale. I need new and interesting insults from the trolls.
4Legs--tell Maxx he'll have to share digs with Arthur if he's not careful.
Man, it's SO going to suck to be a Bush supporting troll next week... Almost makes me want to feel sorry for them. Almost.
ThinlyVeiled
I'm going to revel in it all.
And trolls and wingers are going to be Very nasty. They will attack Wilson, Plame, Fitzgerald, and anyone else involved. They will spew the most crazy conspiracy bullshit we have seen. It will be Swiftboating on the high Seas in a typhoon.
And I say fuck 'em
4lg
is your cat on heroin? it looks pretty zonked out. canine codeine? fess up.
He's merely napping after his exhausting jailbreak.
A thing that bothers me about these sham elections in Eyerack is that US troops have to do security for every goddam polling place in the Sunni provinces. The Shia areas do their own mostly, the Kurds don't need us unless Turkey stomps them.
That means thousands of our soldiers and Marines spend 24 hrs of minor hell tied down to known positions, in generally thin groups, under- and un-armored, cat and mousing against mortars and VBIEDs and snipers and shit because the little man in the White House lied the world into folly and death.
His supporters should be lined up against a wall and pissed on.
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Sallyh...well don't mind if I do. I'll just set aside my coca cola
scout prime: And trolls and wingers are going to be Very nasty. They will attack Wilson, Plame, Fitzgerald, and anyone else involved. They will spew the most crazy conspiracy bullshit we have seen. It will be Swiftboating on the high Seas in a typhoon.
And I say fuck 'em
Hear, hear!
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4Legs--tell Maxx he'll have to share digs with Arthur if he's not careful.
Maxx likes dogs.
For real.
I saw a newly released photograph of Valerie Plame on CBS Evening News tonight and she's just a very pretty lady.
Propaganda techniques taken straight from the Brezhnev era CPSU ...
sdf (Stu)
Boy ain't that the truth.
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This assholes stuff is getting stale. I need new and interesting insults from the trolls.
well "heh" seems to be taking up some of the troll slack, now that Gordo is on the job hunt. But Putz is like a broken record, though at least he doesn't degenerate into calling people "cunts" anymore.
We're not the Judean's Peoples Front.
We're the People's Front of Judea
scout prime, as I said above, what they'll launch into the Wurlitzer against Fitzgerald the moment indictments are announced ...
... well, we can imagine, can't we?
4LG
The Longhaired Standards are some of the smartest dogs I have had the pleasure to meet. I have had two in my lifetime and they were simply amazing. They are a bit bossy I admit, but both responded to voice commands like they had a complete grasp of the english language. Now the Shorthaired standard we had was hell on wheels but that was simply because he loved to run. Lived on Misawa AFB when we had him and there were periodic alerts with AP's, enlisted and neighborhood kids doing a dragnet for him. He would run us ragged. Heh.
Well I'm off. Time to catch up on the Formula One qualifying from China which my TiVo is watching for me right now & then to bed to sleep till the crack of noon.
A Good Night to all Liberals on the thread!
may have even met Bush at some point.
Didn't the dumbass give that away in the fake event? She blathered something about "starting the war on terror at 'Ground Zero'" and meeting BUsh there?
Stupid bitch still linking 9/11 and Iraq for Fredo & Co.
I HATE IT when people call the WTC site "Ground Zero." Losers.
I'm going to revel in it all.
Oh, I will, too. I did say "almost."
Heh, heh. This is mud wrestling, friend. I'm a total sweetheart in person.
You're a pig?
We're not the Judean's Peoples Front.
We're the People's Front of Judea
Splitters.
... well, we can imagine, can't we?
I can imagine a lot of things. One of my favorites is the thought of Rove bankrupt and ruined, sitting in a federal pen.
Fourlegs:
I'm hoping they all spontaneously combust.
It's a good thing you weren't talking about dogs. The Witch from PETA would have to bark at you.
Totally OT, but who do you think the biggest entertainment impresario of the 1950's was? I'd heard of the guy before, but when I read recently how completely he ruled the industry, I was floored.
He was making millions per year when the average salary was in the 5K range.
I saw a newly released photograph of Valerie Plame on CBS Evening News tonight and she's just a very pretty lady.
Did you know she was first in her class at the Farm in handling AK-47s?
Karma is slow but sure.
Heh, heh. This is mud wrestling, friend. I'm a total sweetheart in person.
I believe that. I have a friend who just spent a month in Texas. He is Arab and looks it. I thought they'd slaughter him. But he said they were th e nicest, friendliest people he ever met -- until they began to talk religion and/or politics -- which point they turned into rabid, foaming-at-the-mouth sociopaths.
Despotism, a 1946 school film from Encyclopedia Brittanica.
30 MB or so. Safe for work... unless you work for Fox News Channel, that is.
Toby pretzel, I'm talking about you.
res ipsa loquitur: Didn't the dumbass give that away in the fake event? She blathered something about "starting the war on terror at 'Ground Zero'" and meeting BUsh there?
She said something about "north central NY," I think, and Chimpy was the one that originally popped off with, "I thought I recognized you," or some such paraphrase, then making a lame joke about her recognizing him. Yeah, I recognize you -- your face is on the toilet paper my folx have been sending me!
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Shadenfruede is so unbecoming when you guys do it. Stop it now or I'll feign indignation!
And I was not wrong about... my testicles!? Oh my God! My beautiful testicles are shrinking!? Shrinkimg! Nooooooooo!!!
And trolls and wingers are going to be Very nasty. They will attack Wilson, Plame, Fitzgerald, and anyone else involved. They will spew the most crazy conspiracy bullshit we have seen. It will be Swiftboating on the high Seas in a typhoon.
you are right. hell, we get a taste of it every night here. the local Nazi is always telling us about how Joe Wilson outed his own wife. soon we'll be hearing about Fitzgerald could have gotten John Gotti sooner, or how he let him cop to a lesser plea.
but yeah, fuck them. scumbag traitors and their stupid scumbag supporters are in for a world of hurt when Fitzgerald issues his indictments.
and there is always the Abramoff indictmnets to add happy happy joy joy to our hearts.
DeLay in the BugHouse, and Ralph Reed's political career stillborn down in Georgia. '06, baby!
al-Jafaari:
But Putz is like a broken record, though at least he doesn't degenerate into calling people "cunts" anymore.
I think I've done that a total of one time, but good job of lying, tool.
I HATE IT when people call the WTC site "Ground Zero." Losers.
res ipsa loquitur
Add "Homeland Security" to that. I saw a police vehicle around the corner from Independence Hall today labeled "Homeland Security". I hate that term.
4Legs--how about a warthog?
res, my new hire started this week.
Turns out he's a dem through and through. And his family owns ponies.
Ponies!!
Heh:
Did you know she was first in her class at the Farm in handling AK-47s?
Yeah, I heard she was good with the power tools.
Add "Homeland Security" to that. I saw a police vehicle around the corner from Independence Hall today labeled "Homeland Security". I hate that term.
Yeah, the word "homeland" is very fascist.
But Putz is like a broken record, though at least he doesn't degenerate into calling people "cunts" anymore.
Gordo used to do that right after the kickoff.
4Legs--how about a warthog?
He wouldn't believe me.
Right after he came in he had a snack and then came and jumped in my lap and started purring.
Cheeky little bastard.
Frog March .mp3
http://www.1010kxxt.com/audio/
FR...0COMMENTARY.mp3
fourlegs ...
I'm not following you. Were we talking about your new hire? I'm confused...
I think I've done that a total of one time, but good job of lying, tool.
Fek off, ye feculent cunt.
4Legs--they have no shame whatsoever.
Toby pretzel, I'm talking about you.
Duh?
Add "Homeland Security" to that. I saw a police vehicle around the corner from Independence Hall today labeled "Homeland Security". I hate that term.
I hate it too. The homeland? fuck that. Why couldn't they just have called it domestic security or something?
"I thought I recognized you,"
Bwha ha ha. 140,000 troops in Iraq and Bush "happens" to recognize one. Oh fuck I'd love to see a tape of him rehearsing his phony image.
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Jeffraham ... The dumb wench was blathering about "Ground Zero," though, too. She totally linked Iraq and 9/11. Some shit about "Starting the war on terror at Ground Zero."
Did you know she was first in her class at the Farm in handling AK-47s?
Yeah, I heard she was good with the power tools.
Yeah, it's a real shame that a quality spy like that got burned by a fat pigfaced fuck like Karl Rove.
Here's to hoping he's repeatedly and mercilessly anally raped in prison!
Cheers, asshole!
Add "Homeland Security" to that.
The first time I heard that after 9/11 I winced and groaned. Made me think of Nazis. I thought for sure they'd drop it for that reason. Nope.
Damn Nazis that they are
I'm not following you. Were we talking about your new hire? I'm confused...
No, we weren't. I was just pointing out my rare good luck to find a bright young man who isn't a little republican shit.
So not everyone here is a foaming at the mouth fundie. (just way too many)
Been thinking, I am not going to get my hopes up fir indictments. That would be sweet. But I think the important process so far is the pulling back of the curtain on the doings of this Administration. There is just as much wrong in breaking the spirit of the law as there is in breaking the law. But you have think to think in greyscale to understand that. Hopefully, as Clinton said "When people think, we win"
Add "Homeland Security" to that. I saw a police vehicle around the corner from Independence Hall today labeled "Homeland Security". I hate that term.
Yah, always thought it sounded more than a bit totalitarian-esque.
res ipsa loquitur: Jeffraham ... The dumb wench was blathering about "Ground Zero," though, too. She totally linked Iraq and 9/11. Some shit about "Starting the war on terror at Ground Zero."
Admittedly, I saw what I saw via Crooks & Liars. I have no cable, so I depend on the kindness of strangers, and it isn't always complete.
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The homeland? fuck that.
Before the Bushista Junta arrived, did you ever once in your life hear the word homeland refering to the US. Never, I dare say.
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Res:
until they began to talk religion and/or politics -- which point they turned into rabid, foaming-at-the-mouth sociopaths.
I'm not surprised that you would confuse political engagement and intellectual honesty with sociopathy. After all, your discomfort with ideas that clash with your own is pretty obvious.
Deeeliverance!
Grunt.
But I think the important process so far is the pulling back of the curtain on the doings of this Administration.
No. We need them to go to jail. There needs to be some accountability or they'll just do it some more.
fourlegs ... Gotcha. Pardon me, it's late, and I'm exhausted and not processing everything ... What kind of work do you do?
Course we'll really know we're fucked if/when they announce the creation of the Department of Internal Security.
So, how is Sallyh tonight?
How is Mikey?
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Heh, your outrage at Plame's "exposure" is a total joke. Please give us more credit than that.
Agent Orange
these thugs have corrupted the very idea of the United States. it's nauseating, but fascism usually is.
I'm not surprised that you would confuse political engagement and intellectual honesty with sociopathy. After all, your discomfort with ideas that clash with your own is pretty obvious.
Toby, I told you not to project all your little insecurities onto me.
You voted for BUSH, you fool! How are you going to explain that to your kids in 30 years?
Hiya scout prime.
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fourlegs ... Gotcha. Pardon me, it's late, and I'm exhausted and not processing everything ... What kind of work do you do?
I'm supposed to be a writer and an editor. Lately I don't do much of either. Mostly because my boss is an idiot so I have to pretty much do everything. (I swear he thinks little elves do things)
But young ponyboy is going to change all that.
Agent Orange...Hello there. How's it going?
The CIA rank and file, the frontline folks, must hate this Administration with the heat of 1,000 suns.
Not only were they the first to be vilified when the Excellent Adventure went south, it's now become "no big thang" for WH gnomes to be Chatty Cathys about secret identities.
Yes, this will help national defense.
Fucking putzes.
Jeffraham--I'm fine, and Mikey is furry and hot. He wants pets but then he realizes he's hot, which makes him run off, meowing all the while, as if I had something to do with the weather
And trolls and wingers are going to be Very nasty. They will attack Wilson, Plame, Fitzgerald, and anyone else involved. They will spew the most crazy conspiracy bullshit we have seen. It will be Swiftboating on the high Seas in a typhoon
Yeah! Kinda' scary. Maybe we could head them off at the path by predicting it in e-mails and letters to the media and everyone else we know. I mean as far as lies and propaganda go, it's no exagerration to say these guys would do Goebels proud!
Was there ever a final word or accounting of the Swift Boat lies?
but then again, we have fascist thugs like the Putz right here to give us evidence that not all Nazi's wear black uniforms and swastikas. eugenics, racism, misogyny, the kids got the whole package.
Heh, your outrage at Plame's "exposure" is a total joke. Please give us more credit than that.
Yeah, so what if this "spy" who "specialized" in "WMD proliferation" was "burned" by a "pigheaded Republican sack of shit" for "petty politics."
BFD.
I whipped up a petition that I'd like to get a lot of people to sign. It calls for the DNC, and any party opposing the current leadership, to hold a special mid-term convention that will outline their plan as "America's New Leadership," as Walter Cronkite wrote to the NYT.
Check it out here:
http://new.petitiononline.com/Mi...m/
petition.html
Text is as follows:
To: Howard Dean, the DNC, Congress, All 3rd Parties, Anyone wishing to read and learn from it.
We the People of the United States, in Order to restore the original purpose and luster of the United States Constitution--namely to "form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity..."--do ordain and establish this petition in order to speak directly to those elected and potentially elect-able politicians belonging to the Democratic National Party and any other person or party which chooses to call itself an "opposition," "alternative," or "independent" choice in comparison to the current national situation.
We have noticed an evident power vacuum in the positions of national leadership and representation which we, as the public, have such eternal faith and confidence in as our means of freedom and self-governance.
The current leadership has collapsed into the hollow recesses of its own self-interest. We see everyday, evidence of what has become known as the "Culture of Corruption." It has become so prevalent, so encompassing, that we see this dark narcissism reaching from the top authorities in Washington, across the nation into every state in the union; and from there, into our homes and our schools. We oppose this silent revolution! We see now that a large majority of Americans will not stand for such reckless disregard of our trust! We will not stand by and let this immoral majority represent us any longer. As a majority, we oppose it, and we call for an opposition party!
...But opposition power is not our only desire. It is not enough for a group of representatives to merely offer itself as an alternative to current leaders. Those who wish to rightfully represent the people of the United States of America must present themselves as a clear and viable choice, appealing for reasons wholly independent of current leadership. None will rise to power with any substantial support from America at large as a simple opposition movement.
Replacement must be the all-defining goal of America's next leaders. Not merely physical, not only in name, but the new leadership must be a replacement in ideas, morals
Max Planck..What was the answer to the big enternainer in the 50's? I think I missed it
Agent Orange...Hello there. How's it going?
scout prime
AO is AOK.
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He wants pets but then he realizes he's hot, which makes him run off, meowing all the while, as if I had something to do with the weather
That's hilarious.
Maxx does that. By the way, I just realized last night that his fur is only half grown in.
He's going to be EVEN plushier. If you can imagine that.
Res, your preoccupation with the future is interesting. Why do you think that your vindication lies there? The present is the only place where your self-righteousness is at home. Because History will judge this President correctly and give him the credit he deserves for beginning the necessary changes that must come for the Mohammedan menace.
Sallyh: Jeffraham--I'm fine, and Mikey is furry and hot. He wants pets but then he realizes he's hot, which makes him run off, meowing all the while, as if I had something to do with the weather
You can always FedEx him here -- we're having nighttime lows in the 50s, but later in my first week at work (Ba'al willing!) we'll climb back to the 80s during the day.
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You voted for BUSH, you fool! How are you going to explain that to your kids in 30 years?
Res,
Without some form of artificial fertilization or out and out rape, that ain't ever gonna happen.
So what if her "front company" was "dismantled" and American "intelligence assets" with knowledge about "WMD proliferation" might have been "brutally murdered" after Rove "outed" this "NOC" that America spents hundreds of thousands of dollars to train and equip.
BFD.
Jeffraham---NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
I'd miss my Mikey too much. Even if he does have the habit of meowing and scratching half an hour before the alarm goes off.
Because History will judge this President correctly and give him the credit he deserves for beginning the necessary changes that must come for the Mohammedan menace.
Toby, you really don't have to prove to us every night that you are too stupid to live.
AO is AOK.
Agent Orange
Good to hear. Same here
Mohammedan menace.
It's gotta be a joke cause I just keep on laughing.
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I'd miss my Mikey too much. Even if he does have the habit of meowing and scratching half an hour before the alarm goes off.
He's warning you that it's about to go off.
He's just trying to be helpful. Kitties enjoy being helpful.
Because History will judge this President correctly and give him the credit he deserves for beginning the necessary changes that must come for the Mohammedan menace.
No, no, I'm pretty sure that it was Pope Urban II who first recognized that particular threat ...
Again, Max, there are some of us in this country who recognize the absurdity ---indeed, the utter fucking insult to reason and honesty that it is--- of Leftists bemoaning the losses that the Central Intelligence Agency has suffered.
Get the fuck out of here with that phony shit!
Sallyh: I'd miss my Mikey too much. Even if he does have the habit of meowing and scratching half an hour before the alarm goes off.
Well, it was just a suggestion.
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Okay, bed time for me.
Trolls, give it up already. Your side had a good run but the salad days are over. Your guys are just gonna keep crashing and burning as their disastrous policies continue to fail. Jump ship now and help us throw the bastards you elected out of office. You'll be heroes for admitting you were wrong.
I promise not to say "I told you so."
Toby petzoid:
observations:
This man can describe his own prostate by taste,smell,color and texture he can also provide comparison data from his dog.
Conservatives are corrupt to the point of disease. Toby is a symptom of such much like a chancre.
Max Planck..What was the answer to the big enternainer in the 50's? I think I missed it
scout prime
Arthur Godfrey. His totalitarian backstage behavior was contemporaneously documented in two films, The Great Man, and A Face In The Crowd, starring a young Andy Griffith, delivering what many critics feel was his finest performance in any role.
Okay, bed time for me.
fourlegsgood
Sleep tight!
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Again, Max, there are some of us in this country who recognize the absurdity ---indeed, the utter fucking insult to reason and honesty that it is--- of Leftists bemoaning the losses that the Central Intelligence Agency has suffered.
The inference here is that "Leftists" really want Middle Eastern countries to gain WMD capability, and vaporize Americans.
Get out of here with that phony shit.
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It's gotta be a joke cause I just keep on laughing.
thre Putz is no joke, he's genuine. a genuine Nazi. have you read his rants about sterilization? or the Stars and Bars? should I go dig them up? the guys a fucking Nazi, without a doubt.
Arthur godfrey. That makes sense.
Again, Max, there are some of us in this country who recognize the absurdity of Leftists bemoaning the losses that the Central Intelligence Agency has suffered.
Are you one of those Tom Clancy reading idiots who thinks only Republicans work at the CIA?
Bon soir, Liberal Elitists (and Toby)!
Toby: Your president is a treasonous, lying, undercover agent outing sack of shit who should hang for his crimes.
Hope that helps.
yeah, bedtime for this bonzo. Sallyh, will send you an email in the am about getting together next week for a drink, if you can fit it in your schedule.
Fuck you Toby.
For once, for fucking once, look beyond politics.
Why don't "liberal" women ever speak out on behalf of women's rights in the Muslim Middle East and Asia? Because it would mean that they have to admit that the War for Iraq and Afghanistan was right?
Why don't "liberal" women ever speak out on behalf of women's rights in the Muslim Middle East and Asia?
Quitr changing the goddamned subject, you fucking worm.
Why don't "liberal" women ever speak out on behalf of women's rights in the Muslim Middle East and Asia? Because it would mean that they have to admit that the War for Iraq and Afghanistan was right?
How is a vacuum measured? Millibars?
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If these socialist rectal thermometers could dig up Che Guevara and hang a medal around his neck, they'd do it with moist eyes and starched pants. They just gave the anti-American Mohammed el-Baradei their little peace prize for no apparent reason, just as they gave the worst President of my lifetime his own medal a few years ago ---as an explicit rebuke to his own country. And the wretched bastard took it, too.
Fuck a bunch of cracker-assed commies. Sweden stopped mattering centuries ago. The Nobel is a concoction of Leftist conceit and self-delusion. Fuck 'em all.
Jeffraham:
The inference here is that "Leftists" really want Middle Eastern countries to gain WMD capability, and vaporize Americans.
Well, well, well! Must be on your mind to infer such a thing!
Gosh! Intellectual honesty ---of a sort. Must be closing time.
Why don't "liberal" women ever speak out on behalf of women's rights in the Muslim Middle East and Asia?
Yep, too fucking stupid to live.
I hope you stroke out in your sleep tonight, you ignorant fucknozzle.
Uh, oh. Here comes old flat-top. See y'all later.
"Why don't "liberal" women ever speak out on behalf of women's rights in the Muslim Middle East and Asia? Because it would mean that they have to admit that the War for Iraq and Afghanistan was right?"
Right, because there's no way the super-special purple finger Iraqi elections will result in a stone-age theocracy being installed, right? Women's rights in Iraq are about to go down the toilet faster than a Guantanamo Koran.
Dumbshit.
The FACT is that Wilson was WRONG about the Saddamites' attempts at procuring uranium in Africa ---and the United States Senate as well as an independent governmental inquiry in Britain said so.
Wilson is the single best example I can think of to demonstrate the old totalitarian strategem of repeating a lie often enough until it becomes the truth. Big Media has absolutely misreported what Wilson found out on his Nigerien vacation ---and nobody seems willing to point this out. Why?
For some reason I feel like quoting Larry Johnson's recent post again right about now:
Here are some of the facts that will come out when Fitzgerald ends his investigation:
Valerie Plame was still a non-official cover officer in July 2003 when her identity was revealed by colostomy bag Bob Novak.
Valerie Plame had traveled overseas on secret missions using that cover as required under the statute in question.
Valerie Plame's exposure also almost compromised the identity of other non-official cover officers.
Valerie Plame did not have the authority to send her husband on the Niger mission and in fact did not make the decision.
Other mental midgets like Cohen, such as Victoria Toensing, continue to insist that no crime could have been committed because Valerie Plame, "worked at a desk job". Newsflash for these so-called Washington insiders who have proven they know nothing about the intelligence community--at least 40% of the people working at CIA Headquarters are working undercover. Just because they may physically go to the CIA building in McLean, Virginia everyday does not mean that their relationship with the CIA is acknowledged.
During my four years of sitting at a desk at CIA I was undercover. My position with the CIA was not even known by my own parents. Only my wife was privy to that secret. Many of the undercover folks still working at CIA are at headquarters on a temporary basis. Some travel overseas on temporary assignments that last less than a month. Others await a semi-permanent posting for a two or three year stint overseas.
The point that Cohen and the other White House hacks have missed is that protecting the identities of intelligence officers, whether they are working under official or non-official cover, is part of national defense. To compromise these identities is to commit an act of treason.
That pretty much gets it all.
Supporters of the Bush administration = supporters of tratiorous scumbags.
Bill Maher any good tonight?
I think Toby must be fucked up on ripple or amyl nitrate or something. It is Friday night, after all.
We've discussed this before, but it's at least as fitting that Joe Wilson or David Corn or even someone in the CIA itself should be indicted for the very alleged outing of Valerie Plame as anyone in the White House.
After all, the CIA itself confirmed to Bob Novak and other reporters that Plame worked for the Company. And it was Wilson who fed background information to Corn ---which almost certainly included his wife's position--- in an effort to get their mutual propaganda ball rolling.
As I warned a few ninnies last night, if Rove is indicted, Joe and Valerie Rosenberg are going to get more attention than they ever dreamed of.
Why don't "liberal" women ever speak out on behalf of women's rights in the Muslim Middle East and Asia? Because it would mean that they have to admit that the War for Iraq and Afghanistan was right?
First, liberal women do speak out on behalf of women's rights in Middle East and Asia, all the time. I have probably hundred posts on this topic on my blog.
Second, there is no connection from that to saying that the war in Iraq or the war in Afghanistan were right. Also, the two wars can't be lumped together like this because they had very different justifications.
But whatever the justifications were, the wars were never about women's rights, never. This was just added on as a lipstick to pretend. And the wars are not necessarily going to leave the women who survive them any better off. Maybe in Afghanistan but maybe not. Iraq looks even less likely given the fundamentalist trend there.
without a doubt.
Mrs. Ibrahim al-jafaari
Yea, I know. I just can't stop laughing. "Mohameden Menace!"
Heh, your outrage at Plame's "exposure" is a total joke. Please give us more credit than that.
Toby Petzold
The right's lack of outrage and pragmatism is stunning. Party before country every damn time! Treason no matter how you parse it, and it was out of spite?! How weak-kneed is that? Not able to stand up to criticism they do anything to get their way.
i.e. They arm twisted big time on the bankruptcy bill. I guarantee that bankruptcy bill will bite you or someone very close to you on the ass in the near future and you'll be able to recall that you supported these rich war mongering guys day in and day out.
Good job.
They just gave the anti-American Mohammed el-Baradei their little peace prize for no apparent reason
Shrub gets to shit in the White House lavatory for no apparent reason.
Wilson is the single best example I can think of to demonstrate the old totalitarian strategem of repeating a lie often enough until it becomes the truth.
Irony busted its last nut on that one.
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"Wilson is the single best example I can think of to demonstrate the old totalitarian strategem of repeating a lie often enough until it becomes the truth."
No, that would have to be "Saddam had ties with Al-Qaeda."
As I warned a few ninnies last night, if Rove is indicted, Joe and Valerie Rosenberg are going to get more attention than they ever dreamed of.
And then... he woke up!
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With great thanks to Glenn Reynolds, go have a look at the fantastic post at Sir Humphrey's wherein the BBC are exposed as a bunch of goddamned liars and propagandists for the fashionably al-Qaedist amongst us.
There's no point in trying to explain this blow by blow. Just go and see how the anti-Western Left operates.
"mutual propaganda ball"
Christ. It's like the hiccups, I can't stop laughing.
Bill Maher any good tonight?
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Yes.
Not as many belly laughs as usual, but Max Cleland did a good job.
Wilson wasn't wrong you moron. You're supposed to say he deliberately lied! I hate it when trolls get sloppy. Toby, go do your homework.
Irony busted its last nut on that one.
Indeed.
Toby, fear not, 37% of the country have your back.
That fishing vid over there --->
is hilarious, I mean not what it's saying, the RENO911 cop is.
"Do I even need to get out the scale?"
Anti-American Left? Bush has fuckin' 38% approval. Are you telling my 62% of the country is the Anti-American Left?
Don't think so. Mr. and Mrs. Sixpack can't stand Bush now either. So give the "Anti-American Left" shit a rest already. Bush is a miserable failure. He sucks at government. Deal with it.
The degree to which bush's daddy complex is on display is stunning.
Down to the fact that dad thought the absolute world of Joe Wilson.
And when it all finally crashes down on poor georgie it will be his daddy's buddies who bail him out in the end. Just like always.
Kissinger will put his arm around little G and tell him the time has come to resign.
Dr. Franklin--I confess. I like Reno 911. It's just so...wrong
yeah Toby, the war on formerly secular Iraq has freed women there to live in fear of being stoned for not wearing burqa. To be once again confined to their homes by religious fanatics who threaten their lives for wearing make-up or not covering their heads. The impending theocracy will indeed be a big bold step forward for women in Iraq
bite me, putzhole
Don't malign SouthweschaCon. It's legit.
I am dearly loving all this but I'm seriously pissed about the timing.
Damn them. I'm off to the backwoods of Arkansas for 10 days away from everything but a fuzzy CNN feed that only works once and awhile. I've had the bubbly in the fridge for a week. No go.
Now, not only to I have to take an extra ice chest, I'm going to have to make a trip into civilization every day to find out whether I can crack the champagne I'm packing.
Don't counsel patience. I'm tired of waiting. This is going to my first serious bubble hangover since 1992.
Toby, fear not, 37% of the country have your back.
Max Planck
Can "political capital" be charged to a credit card under the new bankruptcy bill. I think the Bushita Junta is having trouble making ends meet.
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Jeffraham--I hope when you were in imminent danger of becoming a public nuisance that the 6 year old was not present
Dr. Franklin--I confess. I like Reno 911. It's just so...wrong
Sallyh
Sallyh,
I'm sort of mesmerized by it too.
Are we Communists?
Can "political capital" be charged to a credit card under the new bankruptcy bill. I think the Bushita Junta is having trouble making ends meet.
The late fees are Killing them
First let me say that bringing charges is exactly what Pat Fitz should do and should have done last year, before elections. He's plainly wise to the whole conspiracy fraud of Iraq as a threat--the aluminum tubes, the deadly drones, the mobile bioweapons vans, etc.
Bring charges for the greater conspiracy, not just Plame
Dr. Franklin--I confess. I like Reno 911.
What's that?
He should have done it last year, but the traitor media was holding out.
Toby, can we agree to march on the media strongholds with pitchforks and torches?
Sallyh: Jeffraham--I hope when you were in imminent danger of becoming a public nuisance that the 6 year old was not present
Oh, hell no. If she's here at nighttime, it's Daddy's weekend. She won't even have me come up unless it's Daddy's weekend (even though the daughter loves me, and I, her; I respect her wishes in this, of course).
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In October [2002], the Intelligence Community (IC) produced a classified, 90 page National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) on Iraq's WMD programs. There is a lengthy section in which most agencies of the Intelligence Community judged that Iraq was reconstituting its nuclear weapons program. Let me emphasize, the NIE's Key Judgments cited six reasons for this assessment; the African uranium issue was not one of them.
This is the statement in which Tenet said that the inclusion of the infamous "sixteen words" in President Bush's 2003 State of the Union Address regarding Great Britain's intelligence that Iraq had, in fact, attempted to purchase uranium from Niger, was a mistake. But it was only a mistake because it did not meet the CIA's standard of certainty, not because it was factually untrue to say that the British had evidence of such Iraqi activity.
We now know that the British were right. We now know that what the President said could have been said even more strongly. And we also know that the people who are trying to defend Joe Wilson are defending a liar with an axe to grind.
Iraq was trying to keep its nuclear weapons program alive. Remember that when you think it was a mistake for us to have invaded Iraq and removed Saddam.
Reno 911 is a Comedy Central spoof on Cops. It really gets, well, weird.
Toby,
My browser only displayed 37% of your post.
WTF?
Dr. Franklin--I confess. I like Reno 911.
What's that?
Central Scrutinizer
You mean you havent had the joy of watching Sgt. Dangle and the rest?!
They are the shizz!
Reno 911 is a Comedy Central spoof on Cops. It really gets, well, weird.
Thanks Max.
I always tought Cops was weird enough.
the fashionably al-Qaedist amongst us.
words of wisdom from the tobster - it's tobarama!
You couldn't be a bigger idiot if you spent all day hitting yourself with a hammer. Your ignorance is really a putrid thing to behold.
You really don't read anything that might make you change your mind do you chickenhawkshit?
We now know that the British were right.
And we have the forged documents to prove it. Case closed!
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Sallyh, I wish the NBA players still wore shorts like Dangle's.
History will judge this President correctly and give him the credit he deserves.
This is entirely true....but why would any Bush "supporter" take any comfort whatsoever from it?
It would be nice to think that, from wherever he is observing the present scene, Ulysses S. Grant can be aware he's about to get a major reputation upgrade.
This is the statement in which Tenet said that the inclusion of the infamous "sixteen words" in President Bush's 2003 State of the Union Address regarding Great Britain's intelligence that Iraq had, in fact, attempted to purchase uranium from Niger, was a mistake. But it was only a mistake because it did not meet the CIA's standard of certainty, not because it was factually untrue to say that the British had evidence of such Iraqi activity.
Okay, so set me straight, here. The fact that Iraq had 550+ tons of known uranium ore ("yellowcake") on the ground BEFORE Hans Blix ever set foot in the country means... what?
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See that "Big Problem" ad on the right column on Eschaton?
That man plays one of the cops on Reno 911.
Dr. Franklin--I confess. I like I'm sort of mesmerized by it too.
Are we Communists?
Max Planck
I'm something of a socialist, but I think being attracted by Reno 911 simply marks us as twisted.
We now know that the British were right.
No they weren't.
Christ
The Niger documents were forgeries. Probably a WHIG project.
But believe the bullshit if you want.
Night all
In the face of an enemy that has already done us harm on a scale greater than that which the Soviet Union itself did, we will not survive the liberal fetish with civil rights and legalities. That does not mean that we should forever abandon those basic principles that distinguish us from the great mass of humanity, but it will be necessary for us to safeguard them a while ---much like a man who wears glasses putting them aside while he gets into a fistfight with a worthless drunk.
I can't read the posts anymore because I am all out of popcorn. I might have to start eating the cheeze wiz.
Erin--but without the pantyhose.
Sallyh: I'm something of a socialist, but I think being attracted by Reno 911 simply marks us as twisted.
I'm more concerned about the interest in Jerry Springer, truth be told...
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In the face of an enemy that has already done us harm on a scale greater than that which the Soviet Union itself did
America's already dead. It just doesn't know it yet.
British never even sited their source fool. It was thought to be Italian documents that were an even bigger joke than the CIA's. Not admitting you're wrong doesn't mean you have special knowledge.
(I luv this Bluetooth shit!)
I still rock the short shorts and my high-top Chucks on the court. Headband, goggles and my light blue,tucked in wife-beater.
Ulysses S. Grant can be aware he's about to get a major reputation upgrade.
Xan
At least his book about the Rebellion was a best seller.
Central--I think if you watch enough 'Cops' you start thinking everyone in trailer parks is drunk and derelict.
In the face of an enemy tha.... ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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In the face of an enemy that has already done us harm on a scale greater than that which the Soviet Union itself did...
Who might that enemy be? Tobe, go to bed.
Jeffraham--Jerry doesn't do much for me, but Steve? Steve is someone I'd like to have around when people start annoying me
I hope Italy becomes the new superpower. Lasagna and chesthair exported everywhere.
Dr. Franklin--hey, I was looking for my light blue wife beater!
we will not survive the liberal fetish with civil rights and legalities.
Somebody's hitting the sauce pretty hard. Try biting your bottom lip. If you can't feel anything it's time to quit drinking.
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Second, and OT, are there any Q Tarantino fans around? He's only directed 3 movies prior to Kill Bill, yet I think he's a great director. If nothing else, he's inspired a generation of QT imitators.
What I love about QT is his affectless postmodernism, by which I mean that he steals from many sources and mixes everything up, then encourages the actors, with rehearsal, to play things normally.
You wind up with totally stylized movies where the actors play their roles casually, or tensely as the situation demands. QT seems a master of combining precise direction/editing with naturalistic acting.
Compare to the Coen Bros, also great, but where the actors always seem to be acting, and aware of hitting their marks to conform with the overdone storyboarding.
I wish Reno 911 was a little less three's company.
Sallyh: Jeffraham--Jerry doesn't do much for me, but Steve? Steve is someone I'd like to have around when people start annoying me
Steves, I know, aplenty, but not the one of which you speak, I feel certain!
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Arthur Godfrey. His totalitarian backstage behavior was contemporaneously documented in two films, The Great Man, and A Face In The Crowd, starring a young Andy Griffith, delivering what many critics feel was his finest performance in any role.
Both fine movies IMHO. While "A Face In the Crowd" is the legendary one, I still remember, about 9-10 years back, when they showed "The Great Man" on AMC, and the before and after commentary was made by Gene Klavan, who had been a famous radio guy here in NYC. Klavan and Nick Clooney (yes, George's dad) had been brought in because AMC seemed to be trying to phase out Bob Dorian, who had been AMC's guy for a number of years.
Anyway, after the movie, Klavan talked about how the rumor had always been that "The Great Man" was based on Arthur Godfrey, but then segued into this riff about how today's version of this kind of guy is none other than Rush Limbaugh.
Obviously, it need not be said that Klavan was soon disappeared from AMC's airways.
But it was only a mistake because it did not meet the CIA's standard of certainty, not because it was factually untrue to say that the British had evidence of such Iraqi activity.
Why do I stay awake long enough to read this inanity?
This has got to be the single stupidest thing that I've yet read written to try and justify the16 words and the other hours upon hours of unforgivable lies that spewed from of this administration in an attempt to justify the invasion of Iraq.
Toby, I almost always ignore trolls. But, as I mentioned, I'm going away for awhile.
DO THE SAME. Crimeny, don't you ever tire of being flat out fucking wrong.
G'night sane people.
Tons of rocks are waiting to be placed in a pleasing pattern on the morrow.
Be well.
I wish Reno 911 was a little less three's company.
SSquirell
The female black deputy has got some back on her. In one episode, a suspect remarked that you could set a drink on it, while she's standing.
I'm about to yodel.
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"Dr. Franklin--hey, I was looking for my light blue wife beater!"
Sallyh
You mean this one with the Miss Piggy iron-on decal? I thought it was mine!
we will not survive the liberal fetish with civil rights and legalities.
Funny, I thought those were the only things that would save us!
Draco
huge tarantino fan over here. Kill Bill volumes 1 and 2 were a nice amalgamation of Hong Kong and John Ford.
and you remarks about acting seem apt, though I thought Uma tended to be a little over the top in volume two, a little too stiff, or maybe just overly stylized.
Tons of rocks are waiting to be placed in a pleasing pattern on the morrow.
Be well.
Central Scrutinizer
Building walls is fun.
Dr. Franklin--no! no Miss Piggy!
What did you do to my wifebeater?!
btw, draco el gato negro was looking for you earlier. just saying...
I see there are many fast posters about, and many are taking up time and space with reactions to the Toby troll. Guess people like to blow off steam. But refuting Toby is a bad way to use Eschaton.
Awright, I am thinking, "I cannot possibly improve on this evening." So... I bid thee adieu!
♥
Toby will not rest until the country is destroyed. And his might cannot be resisted by the likes of us.
Mrs. Ibrahim!
Monsieur saved you a large slice of German chocolate cake.
I'm not sure if it has anything to do with catching that Sha'ria spirit, but he says it's delicious.
"That does not mean that we should forever abandon those basic principles that distinguish us from the great mass of humanity, but it will be necessary for us to safeguard them a while."
That's right, kids, no civil liberties until we catch all the terrorists. We'll have them all rounded up soon, then we can go back to being the freest Freedom Lovers in the history of freedom.
And we'll all say how right Toby was once all the terrorists are gone and they build George W. Bush square in Bagdhad. It could happen! And Natalie Portman could walk in the room right now and sit on my face for about an hour.
Draco--as a lifestyle, beating up Toby gets old, but at times, it's quite therapeutic.
Yup, Agent O. Still regarded as the best-written memoir of any US president (while Samuel Clemens published it, claims that he was the ghostwriter are not given credence), written under sentence of imminent death, never been out of print from that day to this.
Try to imagine any of those descriptions applying to a hypothetical memoir of GWB. ::snort::
He should call it My Pet Presidency, but by that time I doubt even Regnery would be willing to put paper into the project.
It was either the Miss Piggy decal or this "Hang in there kitty" decal and I had to make a judgement call as a man.
Mrs I Al-J--
I tried to contact El Gato when I saw his summons offering to show me something scary. But Atrios posted two new threads and contact was lost. Do you have access to El Gato's scary whatever?
Dr. Franklin--you can keep the wifebeater. I like the baby pink one better, anyway
Mrs. Ibrahim--I consider 'Pulp Fiction' among my favorite movies.
Creepiest character in the movie was Christopher Walken's
"and you remarks about acting seem apt, though I thought Uma tended to be a little over the top in volume two, a little too stiff, or maybe just overly stylized."
I thought Uma was amazing in both movies. Really the thing was filmed as one movie-- the decision to break it into two parts was made during the editing phase. I can't think of any other actress that could have played "The Bride." Of course Tarantino created the character specifically for Uma.
Tarantino is a great director, and he's also very savvy about his career. After "Jackie Brown" it became apparent that a bit of a backlash was setting in, so he took a few years off. When the "Kill Bill" movies came out the world was ready for more Tarantino and those movies put him right back at the top of the game.
Xan
Besides dying of throat cancer didn't he have financial problems. I recall a big incentive to Grant was his wife would get the proceeds.???
Cool,keep it real my homies,I'm off to have an "unscripted" discussion with my pillow.Peace.
Pulp Fiction really was exceptional...
Forget Grant. Warren G. Harding is going to be grateful for Bush's screwup.
And to quote Stephen Colbert, of the Colbert Report,
"Warren G. Harding's presidency was a taint. Not on the office of the presidency. A literal taint. The area of skin on the body between the scrotum and anus."
I leave the bar to the insomniacs and the youthful. And my cat has no realization that sleeping in on weekends is important.
Keep the screen door shut--keeps the trolls out.
DLurker--I have little to add to your comments, other than in all the analysis I've read of A Face in the Crowd, I've not heard that the Andy Griffith character was based on Arthur Godfrey.
That still doesn't quite make sense, as Arthur G was never a political demagogue, except maybe indirectly.
I do know that Arthur G was widely disliked by his proteges, of whom he was highly possessive
Draco, wasn't El Gato's something scary Googling Brigitte Bardot + fascism?
I'm glad to see Tarantino fans around--he gets major flack from critics who dislike his affected coolness, his affected macho, his affected black-simpatico, and his stylistic mannerisms, showing off everything he's seen from Thai chop-socky to Swedish comic book porn. All of it valid criticism.
But he has talent out the ears, and actors line up to work with him. Jackie Brown, fine as it was, was a mistake--he was deferring to the Elmore Leonard book when he should have been making a QT movie
Echidne--I'm not sure why El Gato wanted my attention, though El Gato's is hard to get, as with most cats. He's elusive and I'll wait for his scary link. Ms. Bardot is a plus, if that's what's happening.
Besides dying of throat cancer didn't he have financial problems. I recall a big incentive to Grant was his wife would get the proceeds.
Yeah...not much in the way of pensions in those days, either for military or political service; and what money he did have, iirc, was lost to a large extent in bad investments and the instability in the banking system in those glorious days of pure capitalism unfettered by regulatory agencies.
Grant's military genius was in logistics--making sure food, ammo, etc., and army all got to the same place at the same time--but this did not translate into any capability of handling money. A tendency with which, alas, I entirely sympathize.
The book did, under S. Clemens' promotion, make plenty to keep Julia comfortable for the remainder of her life.
You know what comes after the indictments?
A trial.
A public trial.
You're sitting in a wet spot, aren't you?
Where did the Toby fascist apologist come from? Cheney's war room, I think. Ignore the fuck.
I love "Jackie Brown" and think it's very underrated. At the time many people felt that Steven Soderbergh's "Out of Sight" was the superior film, but I just can't see that at all. I said at the time that "Jackie Brown" would be the more admired film in the long run and I think that has proven to be the case.
My two cents, not being a master of military logistics: Grant was a lousy general, willing to sacrifice many Union lives for trivial advantage. Perhaps those little plusses added up to victory, but he was no strategist--he used numbers and brutish attrition tactics.
Tarantino's next two projects are:
"Grind House"-- a double feature with two seperate 60 minute horror films, one directed by Tarantino and one directed by Robert Rodriguez. Rodriguez' film is some kind of zombie thing while Tarantino's is supposedly a slasher movie.
"Inglorious Bastards"-- a "Dirty Dozen" style ensemble movie set in WWII about a group of misfits escaping a Nazi prison camp. This one's apparently an epic that Tarantino has been working on since before the "Kill Bill" movies.
gryp, I just can't see that long drawn out public trial thing happening. They can't let that happen. Whoever is indicted will resign and plead guilty to whatever can be negotiated--NOT including public confessions of any sort, since that would "violate national security and embolden the turreenists"--and go forth into the desert bearing the sins of the people upon their little caprine heads like good scapegoats should.
As should I. Night all.
JK47--I liked both Jackie Brown and Out of Sight and see no reason to rate them against each other.
The reason I mentioned Jackie B was that when it came out, many Quentin T fans were expecting Pulp Fiction and then some.
Instead they got a halfway normal good movie where QT subdued some of his impulses in deference to the book. QT shouldn't work from books--they're not his art form.
I miss Ruppert so much that I had to go over to Drum's place to beat him up. Imagine the mixture of joy and sorrow I had to go through to experience that.
Grant was a lousy general, willing to sacrifice many Union lives for trivial advantage. Perhaps those little plusses added up to victory, but he was no strategist--he used numbers and brutish attrition tactics.
Draco
Draco, this is a common misconception based largely on what Grant himself acknowledged as his worst mistake, the frontal assault in the battle of Petersburg known as the Battle of the Crater.
No Union general was as wasteful of troops (exception being Burnside at Fredericksburg) as Lee was at Gettysburg or Hood at Franklin.
Really gone this time.
¡Draco!
After that peecture of Weelliam Katt,
I went and found a scarier peecture, now google weel no speet eet out for me,
however...
¡BOO!
so.
I confess. I am indicted.
Jes, Draco that ees jour former love, Connie Selleca...
¡Marrying John Tesh!
¡Dunh dunh Daaaaaah!
so.
Draco, this is a common misconception based largely on what Grant himself acknowledged as his worst mistake, the frontal assault in the battle of Petersburg known as the Battle of the Crater.
Xan, Cold Harbor was Grant's "Gettysburg". His own line officers were refusing orders after the second futile wave. Frontal assaults were in high and astoundingly bloody fashion back then.
What distinguished Grant from his contemporaries is that he didn't back up after slaughter.
In the face of an enemy that has already done us harm on a scale greater than that which the Soviet Union itself did
Not really, since the Communist Party of the Soviet Union has given the Republican Party of the U.S.A. the template on how to rule.
OK El Gato, I can't imagine as you do the depravity that goes on in Hollywood.
But I will defend Senor Katt's late 70s hair as a survival of classic Greek statue hair, all pumped up and curly.
There are a few guys who really have such natural hair. They don't necessarily marry right.
I'm unqualified to get into a debate about Civil war tactics/strategies, and I know this is a contentious issue.
I do know that Grant's victories were gained at the cost of many more lives than the Confederates suffered. As a NYer descened from Brooklyn Irish, I know that Grant's casualty toll was huge, and he didn't care much.
It's easy to be a good general when you have more resources and lives to waste than does the enemy.
Draco,
No argument needed. Grant's inexorable moves forward chewed up thousands of men, as he knew it would.
He early on realized that the destruction of the rebellion meant not holding the same ground every couple of years.
It meant the destruction of the enemy, whatever the cost.
And Lee knew that and feared him the most.
Regardless, I cannot wait to read Doctorow's latest: "The March."
Simony is very applicable to this administration.
Very applicable.
www.correntewire.com
has a freaking brilliant post about the somewhat known fact that the NYT has never mentioned the WHIG. Never. Leading to this conclusion:
>The Times hasn’t mentioned the W.H.I.G. because they were part of the W.H.I.G. disinformation campaign.
Yes, it's all more or less public information but it's still freaking brilliant.
WHIG OUT! (Now _there's_ a bumbersticker.)
I don't know correntwire from Jesus General but damn, that's some shrill shit: Never. That's the number of mentions of the WHIG in the NYT. Never. Didn't exist. Doesn't exist. (Think they'll mention WHIG in the mea culpa dump on Sunday?)
How much money did WHIG spend? 10 million? 200 million? On what? What government work did the WHIG do?
What else is there to say but this?
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