and a bit of good news. Fuji film after playing with my broken camera for over a month gave up and sent me a brand new replacement.
doug, curiously strange |
10.15.05 - 4:10 pm | #
Afternoon, Atriots.
While the weather may be wet out East, it is remarkably beautiful here in Michigan. Bright sun, light winds, and temperature near 60.
DWD |
Homepage |
10.15.05 - 4:11 pm | #
Is is too early to talk about dinner?
And booze?
shawk |
10.15.05 - 4:12 pm | #
I mentioned this the other day,but I just have to repeat it b/c it is so funny:
I was talking to a CIA agent on Fri. and I mentioned to him that I thought Rove should go to jail. He replied, "I hate that motherfucker".
Live Free or Die |
10.15.05 - 4:12 pm | #
Still cannot figure out how it wasn't more popular than SNL.
attaturk |
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10.15.05 - 4:12 pm | #
Just how much does the Chimpster drink?
Is it more than the wingnuts think?
When the Lump starts to bitch,
Does he pull a sex switch,
And put on her panties of pink?
Lime Rickey |
10.15.05 - 4:12 pm | #
and a bit of good news. Fuji film after playing with my broken camera for over a month gave up and sent me a brand new replacement.
Seeing that my iPod Mini is no longer made, when is Apple going to give me a Nano?
Zap Rowsdower |
Homepage |
10.15.05 - 4:12 pm | #
Mmm, minty fresh - new thread smell.
Tena |
Homepage |
10.15.05 - 4:12 pm | #
Nothing like an Eli sandwich on a rainy day. No, wait...
Still cannot figure out how it wasn't more popular than SNL
So scarrry it makes me want to . . . suck my OWN blood! Ooooooooooooh!
watertiger |
Homepage |
10.15.05 - 4:14 pm | #
an open-faced sammy?
I thought that was hand faced
doug, curiously strange |
10.15.05 - 4:14 pm | #
"We saw real black people after Katrina hit NO. They were looting stores and murdering people."
WTF is this shit? What about Karl Rove "looting" billions from the Katrinafund and "killing" the people who Valarie plame worked for? Is Rove black?
Live Free or Die |
10.15.05 - 4:14 pm | #
Got a couple of the SCTV boxed-sets last night.
Does it have that parody of a CBC movie about the people traveling to Toronto because there are "good jobs"?
Or how about Pepe Longsocks?
Johnny Big Boy??
No Dice???
Gawd, I love that show.
Zap Rowsdower |
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10.15.05 - 4:14 pm | #
And the circle jerk continues...
bored eschatonian |
10.15.05 - 4:15 pm | #
I need to get back to the Swedish issue. 1 - Ericsson has 40% of mobile network market globally - and dictates standards like Bluetooth, GPRS, EDGE, W-CDMA. Anyone using a mobile phone is directly impacted by Swedes. 2 - Max Martin created the sound of Britney and Backstreet Boys, launching the teen pop plague that ate th world. They all went to Stockholm to work with him. 3 - Ikea and Hennes & Mauritz created the "dirt cheap, but vaguely trendy" retail approach that had a huge impact over the past decade.
None of this is necessarily good and some may be just evil, but Swedes have an impact on Western Middle class consumers.
foreigner |
10.15.05 - 4:15 pm | #
WTF is this shit? What about Karl Rove "looting" billions from the Katrinafund and "killing" the people who Valarie plame worked for? Is Rove black?
It doesn't count, apparently, if the white people do it, and on a much larger scale.
watertiger |
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10.15.05 - 4:15 pm | #
Back to Dylan
I still know all the words. Damn. "It Aint Me Babe" brings tears to my eyes.
And where did I find this CD, why in with my daughter's collection, of course. I just may appropriate it. I have the vinyl but it is such a bother...
ql in ny |
Homepage |
10.15.05 - 4:15 pm | #
Is Rove black?
Just his heart and soul.
Central Scrutinizer |
10.15.05 - 4:18 pm | #
Lime Ricky, Excellent. (as always) I look forward to them.
If ya'll come by in about two hours the freshly baked bread should be out of the oven . . ..
DWD |
Homepage |
10.15.05 - 4:18 pm | #
attaturk, if you're around:
this one's yours.
I'm too spoiled and white to post it!
watertiger
Well if that's the angle people want, I can oblige.
attaturk |
Homepage |
10.15.05 - 4:18 pm | #
And the circle jerk continues...
You keep coming so fast. No wonder you're bored.
NTodd |
Homepage |
10.15.05 - 4:18 pm | #
It's a nice day here, too. It's going to get almost hot by the time the weekend's over, but so far it's quite lovely. Not overly humid, either. Prolly feels dry to people who haven't spent 4 months in Colorado.
Tena |
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10.15.05 - 4:18 pm | #
Smoke 'em if you got 'em.
-
QuentinCompson
Thanks, I decided to take you up on that.
Tena |
Homepage |
10.15.05 - 4:20 pm | #
QL, say the word and I will send a three disk set of Dylan
DWD |
Homepage |
10.15.05 - 4:20 pm | #
And the circle jerk continues...
Jealous, aren't you.
Hey, there are hundreds of blogs out there that would just love the pleasure of your company.
Well, maybe not. You're a real downer.
pie |
Homepage |
10.15.05 - 4:20 pm | #
Well if that's the angle people want, I can oblige.
Oh, DAAAAAAAAAAMN! That one got an out loud laugh from me!
watertiger |
Homepage |
10.15.05 - 4:21 pm | #
Condi has a repertoire of some of the meanest looks I've ever seen.
Tena |
Homepage |
10.15.05 - 4:21 pm | #
I am Karl Rove's mistress.
He talks in his sleep. He says Bush made him do it and hasn't yet promised a pardon. Maybe that's why Karl's also been crying a lot lately.
And too, the boy doesn't know the first thing about fucking.
LaVerne Coltrane, Big Tooth, T |
10.15.05 - 4:21 pm | #
Are all people from Staten Island assholes? I had a troll named tabi (no e-mail, IP addy 141.155.148.14 drop by and pretty much blame me for rising oil prices because I took some foliage pictures today...
NTodd |
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10.15.05 - 4:21 pm | #
I've got to go now to check out my camera. I'll be shooting up railroad creek today.
doug, curiously strange |
10.15.05 - 4:22 pm | #
How can "College Republicans" stand their own shit odor? They should take a mandatory course in toilet training.
Lime Rickey |
10.15.05 - 4:22 pm | #
All right, who do you have to blow around here to get your gravatar to work???
Left Lane |
10.15.05 - 4:22 pm | #
And the circle jerk continues...
bored eschatonian
One of my favorite 80's punk bands.
Zap Rowsdower |
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10.15.05 - 4:23 pm | #
Are all people from Staten Island assholes?
My one experience staying with a friend who lived there seemed to indicate that many sure were. Don't know if it's changed.
pie |
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10.15.05 - 4:23 pm | #
ql - Damn. I wish I still had all my Dylan vinyl - I had been collecting it since Junior High. I had every single album.
Gone. All gone. All 2500 of Mr. Tena's and my LPs. We just couldn't keep them any more - we didn't have room for them and no longer have a turntable. But I miss my records, damn it.
Tena |
Homepage |
10.15.05 - 4:23 pm | #
Are all people from Staten Island assholes?
It comes from living so close to the biggest landfill project in the world.
watertiger |
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10.15.05 - 4:23 pm | #
I'll be shooting up railroad creek today.
Is that better than shooting up heroin?
NTodd |
Homepage |
10.15.05 - 4:24 pm | #
Condi has a repertoire of some of the meanest looks I've ever seen.
Something about that last picture makes her look like she's just about to shed her human skin and start devouring puppies and small children.
Eli |
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10.15.05 - 4:24 pm | #
So scarrry it makes me want to . . . suck my OWN blood! Ooooooooooooh!
Scared Kids? OOooooooooohh. This one's really scary! I'm not kidding you this time!
Zorak |
10.15.05 - 4:24 pm | #
Well, my garage isn't going to paint itself.
Later.
Central Scrutinizer |
10.15.05 - 4:24 pm | #
I'll be shooting up railroad creek today.
That can be twisted in a number of ways.
watertiger |
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10.15.05 - 4:24 pm | #
When the Lump starts to bitch,
Does he pull a sex switch,
And put on her panties of pink?
Lime Rickey
I think he pulls a light switch, and puts on the shade of a lamp.
Somewhere there are pictures...
Doozer |
10.15.05 - 4:24 pm | #
Yes, c'mon USC! 14-7, now let's play some defense.
Henry Holland |
10.15.05 - 4:24 pm | #
It comes from living so close to the biggest landfill project in the world.
I had a troll named tabi (no e-mail, IP addy 141.155.148.14 drop by and pretty much blame me for rising oil prices because I took some foliage pictures today...
Although if it's only foliage pictures that raise oil prices, I'm probably okay...
Eli |
Homepage |
10.15.05 - 4:25 pm | #
Well, my garage isn't going to paint itself.
Too cheap to buy the self-painting model? Me too. But I'm damn good at ignoring that which needs to be done--I should be in the administration.
NTodd |
Homepage |
10.15.05 - 4:26 pm | #
Well, my garage isn't going to paint itself.
How do you know if you don't give it a chance?
Eli |
Homepage |
10.15.05 - 4:27 pm | #
Why Eli? Do you use film? or have a digital camera?
Douglas Frantz, who succeeded Mr. Engelberg as investigative editor, recalled that Ms. Miller once called herself "Miss Run Amok."
"I said, 'What does that mean?' " said Mr. Frantz, who was recently appointed managing editor at The Los Angeles Times. "And she said, 'I can do whatever I want.' "
Silleigh |
10.15.05 - 4:27 pm | #
Crap - I wonder how much crude I burned taking these...
Depends: did you drive an H2 at high speed to take each of them?
NTodd |
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10.15.05 - 4:27 pm | #
I am worried about all these leaks coming from the WH saying that they are nervous about the impending indictment. I think that it is a settup. That way if Fitzgerald doesnt have enough evidence to indict, but still think Rove is guilty, then Bush will declare it a victory
Live Free or Die |
10.15.05 - 4:28 pm | #
Ntodd, I liked your pics, the one of the sidewalk outside your hotel especially.
Left Lane |
10.15.05 - 4:28 pm | #
At least the maternal victim lived in this scenario.
LJ/Aquaria |
Homepage |
10.15.05 - 4:30 pm | #
Since the trolls have picked up the scent of this open thread, let me ask a rather troll-proof question. I saw "A History of Violence" last night and found it delightfully unnerving, though it could incite as much revulsion as enjoyment. Has anyone else seen it, and, if so, what'd you think?
Cabin Boy |
10.15.05 - 4:30 pm | #
Tena, Do not know if I have everything you want, but I think I can come close. I have about 6000 of the best on drive G. Let me know if you want something (some of them even have scratches as they were made from vinyl)
DWD |
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10.15.05 - 4:30 pm | #
It comes from living so close to the biggest landfill project in the world.
That reminds me to put on the lentils for soup. It's a big project.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar |
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10.15.05 - 4:31 pm | #
For the record, I am single-handedly responsible for rising oil prices. It has nothing to do with Bush's invasion of Iraq, his ties to the energy industry, or lack of a meaningful energy policy.
NTodd the Waster |
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10.15.05 - 4:31 pm | #
Depends: did you drive an H2 at high speed to take each of them?
Well, no.
Does that improve the color saturation?
Eli |
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10.15.05 - 4:31 pm | #
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Don't know why I haven't gone out to get the CDs. Too cheap I suppose. Plus I feel guilty not keeping up with new music and so have pretty much cut music out all together. Shame really, because it used to be a very, very big part of my life.
thanks, do you still have my address. If not email me at the opera addy and I will forward it to you again.
ql in ny |
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10.15.05 - 4:31 pm | #
Bush quoted today saying that democracy does not come through violence and terror.
Huh? So what's the latest reason for invading Iraq then?
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
10.15.05 - 4:31 pm | #
I made the little lefty get out from in front of the 'puter and take a nice bike ride on this fine, sunny afternoon. We rode through the local grove of Eucalyptus, up and down hills, then just aimlessly around the neighborhood. I love doing that. Of course, he couldn't wait to get back home and continue playing Star Wars games.
Left Lane |
10.15.05 - 4:32 pm | #
Is that all Judith Fucking Miller's New York Times is going to run about the investigation?
monica_nyc |
10.15.05 - 4:32 pm | #
From that Raw Story link: "Judy is going to take some time off until we decide what she is doing next," said Catherine Matthis, the Times' spokesperson.
Ooh, I like the "we" in that quote...
Silleigh |
10.15.05 - 4:33 pm | #
Eli - yes, the H2's headlights are super bright blue lamps, which as you know from elementary physics will dramatically increase color saturation when you shoot near the speed of light whilst traveling through a fog of fossil fuel emissions.
NTodd the Waster |
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10.15.05 - 4:33 pm | #
Are all people from Staten Island assholes?
I have been living in NYC and its environs for 55 years. In all that time, I have met one person from Staten Island that I really like. However, even she won't eat Chinese food. Still believes they cut up cats, I guess.
ql in ny |
Homepage |
10.15.05 - 4:33 pm | #
Do not look for all the answers at once. A path is formed by placing stones one in front of the other.
Giant from Twin Peaks |
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10.15.05 - 4:34 pm | #
Bush quoted today saying that democracy does not come through violence and terror.
Huh? So what's the latest reason for invading Iraq then?
We had to destroy Iraq in order to save it.
NTodd the Waster |
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10.15.05 - 4:34 pm | #
Eli - yes, the H2's headlights are super bright blue lamps, which as you know from elementary physics will dramatically increase color saturation when you shoot near the speed of light whilst traveling through a fog of fossil fuel emissions.
Well, okay then. I'm willing to sacrifice for my art.
Eli |
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10.15.05 - 4:34 pm | #
Do not look for all the answers at once. A path is formed by placing stones one in front of the other.
I want whatever David Lynch smokes.
NTodd the Waster |
Homepage |
10.15.05 - 4:35 pm | #
QuentinCompson,
Thanks for your homepage...At oh-dark-thirty Monday morning, I'm treking to see the regional Project Manager...wants to know if I'm interested in an "adventure". At least I have an good idea what the lay of the land is on the other side of the rainbow.
"Judy is going to take some time off until we decide what she is doing next," said Catherine Matthis, the Times' spokesperson.
Ooh, I like the "we" in that quote...
Me, too.
Guess she'll be leaving to spend more time on her back.
pie |
Homepage |
10.15.05 - 4:36 pm | #
Well, okay then. I'm willing to sacrifice for my art.
Me too. Even if I have to destroy the environment and the entire world all by myself to take that perfect shot. It feeds the soul.
NTodd the Waster |
Homepage |
10.15.05 - 4:36 pm | #
From the JFM's NYT link:
On Tuesday, Ms. Miller is to receive a First Amendment award from the Society of Professional Journalists. She said she thought she would write a book about her experiences in the leak case, although she added that she did not yet have a book deal. She also plans on taking some time off but says she hopes to return to the newsroom.
She said she hopes to cover "the same thing I've always covered - threats to our country."
The Times incurred millions of dollars in legal fees in Ms. Miller's case. It limited its own ability to cover aspects of one of the biggest scandals of the day. Even as the paper asked for the public's support, it was unable to answer its questions.
monica_nyc |
10.15.05 - 4:36 pm | #
Guess she'll be leaving to spend more time on her back.
Her book. More time on her book...
NTodd the Waster |
Homepage |
10.15.05 - 4:37 pm | #
Guess she'll be leaving to spend more time on her back.
Heh! Give the knees a rest, I suppose.
Left Lane |
10.15.05 - 4:37 pm | #
QL, I found it. Will make them and mail it on Monday. I will include my two best of and Simel's "lost" Dylan. That is what friends do, you know?
I just made the two cd set for Young DWD the other night. He was home from college and we sat and watched the Dylan movie (third time for me) and he really liked it. There is hope -- I thought he was truly stuck in ESPN land.
BTW, the question from the movie that really begs asking is this: why, when he had created Desolation Row, It's All Right Ma, Gates of Eden, and A Hard Rain; did he step completely away from what he was doing and begin changing direction toward an almost infantile style of music? That one I just do not get.
DWD |
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10.15.05 - 4:37 pm | #
Me too. Even if I have to destroy the environment and the entire world all by myself to take that perfect shot. It feeds the soul.
And I like to take grungy urban wasteland pictures, so it's totally win-win for me.
Eli |
Homepage |
10.15.05 - 4:37 pm | #
Huffington has a link to the NYT report. Here's the NYT link
But enough about Chalabi's pants.
attaturk |
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10.15.05 - 4:39 pm | #
Even if I have to destroy the environment and the entire world all by myself to take that perfect shot.
Spoken like a true artist.
Left Lane |
10.15.05 - 4:39 pm | #
Her book. More time on her book...
Will her back experiences be in her book?
Or will we have to read between the lines?
pie |
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10.15.05 - 4:39 pm | #
I like to take grungy urban wasteland pictures, so it's totally win-win for me.
Well that tears it then: I'll destroy the world as I record how beautiful it once was, then you can document the dark post-NTodd-alyptic world of the future!
NTodd |
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10.15.05 - 4:39 pm | #
Even if I have to destroy the environment and the entire world all by myself to take that perfect shot.
Hmmm, that's a good sum-up of Republican Post-Post-Modernism.
Well that tears it then: I'll destroy the world as I record how beautiful it once was, then you can document the dark post-NTodd-alyptic world of the future!
Symbiosis!
Plus it will totally pave the way for my cyborg overlords.
Eli |
Homepage |
10.15.05 - 4:40 pm | #
Will her back experiences be in her book?
Hopefully! Then it will sell better than Lynne Cheney's book!
NTodd |
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10.15.05 - 4:40 pm | #
She said she hopes to cover "the same thing I've always covered - threats to our country."
She's gonna write her autobiography?
pie |
Homepage |
10.15.05 - 4:40 pm | #
I hope she goes to jail.
They haven't decided on that yet.
Eli |
Homepage |
10.15.05 - 4:40 pm | #
I like how Notre Dame's uniforms blend into the landscape.
watertiger |
Homepage |
10.15.05 - 4:40 pm | #
If JFM doesn't remember who told her, then whom was she protecting as a source?
monica_nyc |
10.15.05 - 4:41 pm | #
DON'T RECALL MY ASS! LYING BITCH! RIGHT WING POLITICAL OPERATIVE!
Al Swearengen |
10.15.05 - 4:41 pm | #
Attaturk (if you're still out there)...
Got a prediction on V'queens & da Bearz tomorrow??
Seeing that MN has won 1 outdoors road game in the last 3 years, the prospects are dim.
To all others:
You can throw shit and yell at me for bringing up professional sports.
Zap Rowsdower |
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10.15.05 - 4:41 pm | #
You can throw shit and yell at me for bringing up professional sports.
We're already talking about Notre Dame-USC.
Eli |
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10.15.05 - 4:42 pm | #
Heh.
"Had a couple of Trojans break all over him."
watertiger |
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10.15.05 - 4:43 pm | #
ql in ny -- "All I Really Want to Do" is one of my favorites. I'd listen to it and cry. To me it felt like a song to the world . . .
cs |
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10.15.05 - 4:43 pm | #
How do they shoot in B&W?
Very accurately.
Eli |
Homepage |
10.15.05 - 4:43 pm | #
Zap,
I expect Cully and the Vikes to come smoking after their invigorating SEX BOAT experiences.
Honestly...they are so due to play well on the road and it seems so logical that they will not, I'm saying...
Tena -- Still have all mine. They are my treasures. I can remember which ones I listened to first in the booth at the record store, which ones were gifts, specific nights when I listened to them in my room all alone . . .
cs |
Homepage |
10.15.05 - 4:47 pm | #
In two interviews, Ms. Miller generally would not discuss her interactions with editors, elaborate on the written account of her grand jury testimony or allow reporters to review her notes.
Al Swearengen |
10.15.05 - 4:48 pm | #
Ann Fisher, thanks for the link. That took me forever to read.
mer |
10.15.05 - 4:48 pm | #
Judy comes out of this covered in shit.
The 'do not recall' defence? Please.
pseudonymous in nc |
10.15.05 - 4:48 pm | #
I'm going to have to make up for my boredom by eating some delicious nachos.
fourlegsgood |
10.15.05 - 4:48 pm | #
the list
-rory calhoun
-snoop doggy dogg
-shelley winters
-chaka khan
-Jools Holland
-mario andretti
-joe theismann
-dr. ruth westheimer
olexicon, Big Poppa Smurf |
10.15.05 - 4:49 pm | #
Artist's conception of George Bush riding a Segway...
Nah, that wasn't georgie - that's a meenkey. The meenkey is very adept at segway-riding. More evolved, don't you know.
pie |
Homepage |
10.15.05 - 4:49 pm | #
Wow:
" Asked what she regretted about The Times's handling of the matter, Jill Abramson, a managing editor, said: "The entire thing." "
That's why your best strategy is to try to spread the defense.
Eli
I prefer smashmouth offense in that situation.
Max Planck |
10.15.05 - 4:49 pm | #
Her assignment was to write an article about the failure to find unconventional weapons in Iraq. She said Mr. Libby wanted to talk about a diplomat's fact-finding trip in 2002 to the African nation of Niger to determine whether Iraq sought uranium there. The diplomat was Mr. Wilson, and his wife worked for the C.I.A.
But I don't recall who gave me her name...
Al Swearengen |
10.15.05 - 4:49 pm | #
I'm going to have to make up for my boredom by eating some delicious nachos.
Why not this delicious bass I caught you?
watertiger |
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10.15.05 - 4:50 pm | #
I'm going to have to make up for my boredom by eating some delicious nachos.
Maxx should bring them to you on a platter after his stunt last night.
NTodd |
Homepage |
10.15.05 - 4:50 pm | #
Oh, and Pinch & Keller? Covered in more shit.
Judy was a fucking renegade with a press pass.
pseudonymous in nc |
10.15.05 - 4:50 pm | #
Ack. I hate folding fitted sheets.
They are unfoldable.
So I don't bother.
fourlegsgood |
10.15.05 - 4:50 pm | #
What is sad is, that caused me to see if A-man had put up a new post.
attaturk
Me too, although I'm not dumb enough to admit it.
Max Planck |
10.15.05 - 4:52 pm | #
Why not this delicious bass I caught you?
You should give that to Attaturk. Or maybe Eli.
fourlegsgood |
10.15.05 - 4:52 pm | #
Just watch out for the nose tackle.
A quick pass to the tight end often pays off in decent yardage.
NTodd |
Homepage |
10.15.05 - 4:53 pm | #
Did they just say Reggie Bush has the moves of a ballet dancer or a belly dancer?
And which would be weirder?
Eli |
Homepage |
10.15.05 - 4:53 pm | #
"And when the prosecutor in the case asked her to explain how "Valerie Flame" appeared in the same notebook she used in interviewing Mr. Libby, Ms. Miller said she "didn't think" she heard it from him. "I said I believed the information came from another source, whom I could not recall," she wrote on Friday, recounting her testimony for an article that appears today."
lying sack of shit. but then again, we already knew that...
jdw |
10.15.05 - 4:53 pm | #
More:
Ms. Miller said that she was proud of her journalism career, including her work on Al Qaeda, biological warfare and Islamic militancy. But she acknowledged serious flaws in her articles on Iraqi weapons.
"W.M.D. - I got it totally wrong," she said. "The analysts, the experts and the journalists who covered them - we were all wrong. If your sources are wrong, you are wrong. I did the best job that I could."
...
I thought Judy had proclaimed herself "Fucking Right" on this stuff?
attaturk |
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10.15.05 - 4:53 pm | #
21 to 17 Minnesota.
Jeez...I hope that you're right.
But guess who's been implicated in the sex boat stuff??
During the breakfast, Mr. Libby provided a detail about Ms. Wilson, saying that she worked in a C.I.A. unit known as Winpac; the name stands for weapons intelligence, nonproliferation and arms control. Ms. Miller said she understood this to mean that Ms. Wilson was an analyst rather than an undercover operative.
Ms. Miller returned to the subject on July 12 in a phone call with Mr. Libby. Another variant on Valerie Wilson's name - "Victoria Wilson" - appears in the notes of that call. Ms. Miller had by then called other sources about Mr. Wilson's wife. In an interview, she would not discuss her sources.
What a shill... She's covering for them.
Al Swearengen |
10.15.05 - 4:55 pm | #
"A promise of confidentiality once made must be respected, or the journalist will lose all credibility and the public will, in the end, suffer."
Oh, what irony.
Keller's position is untenable. Pinch's, too.
pseudonymous in nc |
10.15.05 - 4:55 pm | #
"W.M.D. - I got it totally wrong," she said. "The analysts, the experts and the journalists who covered them - we were all wrong. If your sources are wrong, you are wrong. I did the best job that I could."
Might have helped to find some sources who had reached other conclusions, you dumb shit.
pie |
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10.15.05 - 4:56 pm | #
I want Judy in a witness box, under oath. Preferably on live TV.
She covering the asses of her real sources.
pseudonymous in nc |
10.15.05 - 4:56 pm | #
Maybe if they fire Miller they can avoid laying off some of the other newsroom staff.
You know, journalists who actually want to practice journalism.
fourlegsgood |
10.15.05 - 4:56 pm | #
They are unfoldable.
So I don't bother.
fourlegsgood
Pooh. None of you know the secret, that's all. I, who have been folding fitted sheets since before they had elastic, tell you that you can too fold them and fold them well.
Did I mention recently how old I am?
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar |
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10.15.05 - 4:57 pm | #
Douglas Frantz, who succeeded Mr. Engelberg as investigative editor, recalled that Ms. Miller once called herself "Miss Run Amok."
"I said, 'What does that mean?' " said Mr. Frantz, who was recently appointed managing editor at The Los Angeles Times. "And she said, 'I can do whatever I want.' "
SNIP
"W.M.D. - I got it totally wrong," she said. "The analysts, the experts and the journalists who covered them - we were all wrong. If your sources are wrong, you are wrong. I did the best job that I could."
ErinPDX |
10.15.05 - 4:57 pm | #
That one I just do not get.
DWD
Some of his best music he wrote in a matter of minutes. Then he lost that ability and writing became really hard work. I think that is when the changover began. I'm currently reading his autobiography, but I'm not at the point yet.
ql in ny |
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10.15.05 - 4:57 pm | #
Actually, none of those dapper smoothies in the Corps Diplomatique wanted to learn linguistics, leave Earth forever, or eat hair sundaes. Now there's a sentence you don't read everyday!
Left Lane |
10.15.05 - 4:57 pm | #
Mister, we could use a man like Bernie Kerik again.
Max Planck |
10.15.05 - 4:57 pm | #
The Times said it believes that attempts by prosecutors to force reporters to reveal confidential information must be resisted. Otherwise, it argues, the public would be deprived of important information about the government and other powerful institutions.
Yes, even when the media becomes the conduit for misinformation and propaganda.
Al Swearengen |
10.15.05 - 4:58 pm | #
Is it not just fucking CRAZY that we have TV shows and movies about the Iraq war, during the damn war?
I would think these actors would feel a little stupid trying to recreate reality as it is happening.
Even nachos can't make this interesting.
fourlegsgood |
10.15.05 - 4:58 pm | #
A USC player just hurt himself *not* fielding a kickoff...
Eli |
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10.15.05 - 4:58 pm | #
more from the times article on judyjudy: ""W.M.D. - I got it totally wrong," she said. "The analysts, the experts and the journalists who covered them - we were all wrong. If your sources are wrong, you are wrong. I did the best job that I could."
i thought she was fucking right?
jdw |
10.15.05 - 4:58 pm | #
I want Judy in a witness box, under oath. Preferably on live TV.
She covering the asses of her real sources.
Okay, definitely going to go out and buy more champagne.
pie |
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10.15.05 - 4:58 pm | #
A USC player just hurt himself *not* fielding a kickoff...
Eli |
noone could have foreseen that
olexicon, Big Poppa Smurf |
10.15.05 - 4:59 pm | #
Pooh. None of you know the secret, that's all. I, who have been folding fitted sheets since before they had elastic, tell you that you can too fold them and fold them well.
I just take them out of the dryer and put them back on the bed.
fourlegsgood |
10.15.05 - 4:59 pm | #
Actually, none of those dapper smoothies in the Corps Diplomatique wanted to learn linguistics, leave Earth forever, or eat hair sundaes. Now there's a sentence you don't read everyday!
Beeyotch shouldn't have spent so much time defending Miller then.
Jill Abramson was the editor that was "managing" Miller, at least in theory.
Richard |
10.15.05 - 5:00 pm | #
Ms. Miller said her notes [from the June meeting] leave open the possibility that Mr. Libby told her Mr. Wilson's wife might work at the agency.
pseudonymous in nc |
10.15.05 - 5:00 pm | #
I just take them out of the dryer and put them back on the bed.
fourlegsgood
I just leave them in the dryer. They ain't hurtin' nobody there.
Max Planck |
10.15.05 - 5:00 pm | #
I may have to start watching the Notre Dame game.
Even nachos can't make this interesting.
fourlegsgood
turn away from the dark side
olexicon, Big Poppa Smurf |
10.15.05 - 5:00 pm | #
Even nachos can't make this interesting.
Say it ain't so!
I used to like Colorado, but that was before the Neuheisel and Sexist Asshole eras.
Eli |
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10.15.05 - 5:00 pm | #
The Times said it believes that attempts by prosecutors to force reporters to reveal confidential information must be resisted. Otherwise, it argues, the public would be deprived of important information about the government and other powerful institutions.
I think there's a typo in that passage. No doubt they meant to use the words "have access to" in the place where the words "be deprived" appear in the second sentence.
res ipsa loquitur |
10.15.05 - 5:01 pm | #
I've been reading blogs for ten hours now. The best phrase is courtesy of shawk
People involved in L'affaire Plame will be "done, ruined and fucked" by Fitzgerald.
"done, ruined and fucked"
Same meter as Winken, Blinken and Nod.
Arabella |
10.15.05 - 5:01 pm | #
Here No Evil and See No Evil, stalwart editors of the NYT
Al Swearengen |
10.15.05 - 5:01 pm | #
The man, named as Walid Muhammad Farhan Juwar al-Zubaydi -- "aka 'The Barber,"' the U.S. military statement said -- was arrested in Baghdad on September 24, the day before U.S. troops caught up with and killed a militant they described as the most senior al Qaeda leader in the capital, Abu Azzam.
"'The Barber's' duties included altering senior al Qaeda in Iraq members' appearances by dying hair color, altering hairstyles and changing facial hair in their efforts to evade capture," the military said in the statement.
olexicon, Big Poppa Smurf |
10.15.05 - 5:01 pm | #
Is it not just fucking CRAZY that we have TV shows and movies about the Iraq war, during the damn war?
You have to make them during a shooting war while the myths and misinformation is all still fresh. You can't make jingoistic movies after the fact--you just end up with Deer Hunter and Platoon. and other depressing shit that shows the real costs of war, and who wants that?
NTodd |
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10.15.05 - 5:01 pm | #
Is cockpunching legal in football?
watertiger |
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10.15.05 - 5:01 pm | #
Same meter as Winken, Blinken and Nod.
Arabella
represented gy the lawfirm
of
dewey,cheatam, and howe
olexicon, Big Poppa Smurf |
10.15.05 - 5:01 pm | #
Judy, Judy, Judy:
Ms. Miller's article on the hunt for missing weapons was published on July 20, 2003. It acknowledged that the hunt could turn out to be fruitless but focused largely on the obstacles the searchers faced.
Neither that article nor any in the following months by Ms. Miller discussed Mr. Wilson or his wife.
It is not clear why. Ms. Miller said in an interview that she "made a strong recommendation to my editor" that a story be pursued. "I was told no," she said. She would not identify the editor.
Ms. Abramson, the Washington bureau chief at the time, said Ms. Miller never made any such recommendation.
In the fall of 2003, after The Washington Post reported that "two top White House officials disclosed Plame's identity to at least six Washington journalists," Philip Taubman, Ms. Abramson's successor as Washington bureau chief, asked Ms. Miller and other Times reporters whether they were among the six. Ms. Miller denied it.
attaturk |
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10.15.05 - 5:02 pm | #
Is cockpunching legal in football?
Must not be, or you'd be worth millions right now.
Eli |
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10.15.05 - 5:02 pm | #
turn away from the dark side
Now, now.
Who, I ask you, is more tireless in bashing Texas?
You must try to remember that the University of Texas is a veritable sink hole of liberalism in the state of texas.
Makes the repukes crazy.
fourlegsgood |
10.15.05 - 5:02 pm | #
Am I missing something, or does the piece on Judy say when and where that 'missing' notebook turned up?
I can't see any account or explanation.
pseudonymous in nc |
10.15.05 - 5:03 pm | #
Are all people from Staten Island assholes?
My one experience staying with a friend who lived there seemed to indicate that many sure were. Don't know if it's changed.
pie
The tramp I got dumped for in 1998 was from Skank Island.
I think the whole place smells like garbage!
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat |
10.15.05 - 5:03 pm | #
Is cockpunching legal in football?
I think you lose a timeout.
Max Planck |
10.15.05 - 5:03 pm | #
You must try to remember that the University of Texas is a veritable sink hole of liberalism in the state of texas.
Makes the repukes crazy.
fourlegsgood
i was actually refferring to watching notre dame
olexicon, Big Poppa Smurf |
10.15.05 - 5:03 pm | #
Looks like they really will get them on conspiracy, not just leaking CIA name. WHIG started their defense and attacks of Wilson behind the scenes in June, before he ever came out in public about it in the NYT.
ErinPDX |
10.15.05 - 5:03 pm | #
ql in ny -- "All I Really Want to Do" is one of my favorites. I'd listen to it and cry. To me it felt like a song to the world . . .
I always thought it was Dylan talking about his noted reluctance for a committed relationship. He wrote a number of those.
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10.15.05 - 5:04 pm | #
Mr. Abrams told Ms. Miller and the group that Mr. Tate said she was free to testify. Mr. Abrams said Mr. Tate also passed along some information about Mr. Libby's grand jury testimony: that he had not told Ms. Miller the name or undercover status of Mr. Wilson's wife.
That raised a potential conflict for Ms. Miller. Did the references in her notes to "Valerie Flame" and "Victoria Wilson" suggest that she would have to contradict Mr. Libby's account of their conversations? Ms. Miller said in an interview that she concluded that Mr. Tate was sending her a message that Mr. Libby did not want her to testify.
This spells indictment in most circumstances. She's giving him cover with the "don't recall," which may be enough to foist a plausable deniability argument.
Al Swearengen |
10.15.05 - 5:04 pm | #
"W.M.D. - I got it totally wrong," she said. "The analysts, the experts and the journalists who covered them - we were all wrong.
Aww, fucking bullshit. What about the experts and inspectors who said there were no WMD? And the analysts who agreed? Hey, how 'bout that INR bunch, hmm? Let's hear from the journalistas who ignored the fuck out of them...
**crickets**
Not sticking their heads up out of their prairie dog holes ay-tall, are they?
Doozer |
10.15.05 - 5:04 pm | #
Say it ain't so!
I used to like Colorado, but that was before the Neuheisel and Sexist Asshole eras.
I expected Colorado to make this a tough game. So far, not so much. They're acting like they've been cockpunched.
fourlegsgood |
10.15.05 - 5:04 pm | #
Has anybody heard whether or not there was an election in Iraq today? I've been too busy too learning about the white devils plots to run the blacks out of New Orleans, durn their hides.
Algonquin J. Calhoun |
10.15.05 - 5:04 pm | #
NTodd, oi, Good point. The last 5 years has seemed like the perfect storm.
Must not be resisted?
pie |
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10.15.05 - 5:05 pm | #
Philip Taubman, Ms. Abramson's successor as Washington bureau chief, asked Ms. Miller and other Times reporters whether they were among the six. Ms. Miller denied it.
Judy should be all washed up.
fourlegsgood |
10.15.05 - 5:05 pm | #
The referendum is only hours away and the final version of the constitution still hasn't reached many people. Areas with a Sunni majority are complaining that there aren't polling stations for kilometers around- many of these people don't have cars and even if they did, what good would it do while there's a curfew until Sunday? Polling stations should be easily accessible in every area.
This is like déjà vu from January when people in Mosul and other Sunni areas complained that they didn't have centers to vote in or that their ballot boxes never made it to the counting stations.
olexicon, Big Poppa Smurf |
10.15.05 - 5:06 pm | #
I just take them out of the dryer and put them back on the bed.
fourlegsgood
Someday, 4Legs, you may have more than one set of sheets. That day, you will need to know how to fold, rather than wad. Thus: Put your right hand in the right top corner of the sheet, and fold the left top corner of the sheet over your right hand.
Keep holding the sheet with your right hand and gather up a bottom corner, folding it over the right hand as well.
Take the remaining corner and fold it over your right hand.
Fold the sheet into a square, then continue folding in half until you have reached the desired size.
Remember to remove all your hands from the sheet before putting it into the linen cupboard.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar |
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10.15.05 - 5:06 pm | #
Judy should be all washed up.
Agreed, but she'd still smell icky.
Eli |
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10.15.05 - 5:06 pm | #
Holy fuck. She's absolutely shameless.
To be fair, she probably knew WAY before that.
So maybe she wasn't one of the later six.
fourlegsgood |
10.15.05 - 5:06 pm | #
Has anybody heard whether or not there was an election in Iraq today?
Yup, it went off great, the Sunnis and Shia and Kurds agree to live happily together, Bush declared Mission Accomplished and all our troops are coming home.
NTodd |
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10.15.05 - 5:06 pm | #
How many right hands do you have, GWPDA?
Eli |
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10.15.05 - 5:07 pm | #
"Judy believed Libby was afraid of her testimony," Mr. Keller said, noting that he did not know the basis for the fear. "She thought Libby had reason to be afraid of her testimony."
As so she decided to go to jail instead of testify.... I mean to protect the constitution and freedom of the press and all that other stuff.
Al Swearengen |
10.15.05 - 5:07 pm | #
"For 60 years, America basically ignored the freedom deficit in the Middle East, hoping that stability would achieve security. And as a result, as Secretary Rice has recently noted, we got neither," Hughes, a top aide to President George Bush said at a speech at the George Washington University in Washington.
"Instead we got conditions so cancerous that people were willing to fly airplanes into buildings full of innocent people."
olexicon, Big Poppa Smurf |
10.15.05 - 5:07 pm | #
Someday, 4Legs, you may have more than one set of sheets. That day, you will need to know how to fold, rather than wad.
Actually I have several sets.
But I still tend to take the one set off the bed, wash them and put them back.
Mr. Fitzgerald asked my reaction to Mr. Novak's column. I told the grand jury I was annoyed at having been beaten on a story. I said I felt that since The Times had run Mr. Wilson's original essay, it had an obligation to explore any allegation that undercut his credibility. At the same time, I added, I also believed that the newspaper needed to pursue the possibility that the White House was unfairly attacking a critic of the administration.
Wow. She can fuck *right* off.
monica_nyc |
10.15.05 - 5:07 pm | #
On July 30, 2003, Mr. Keller became executive editor after his predecessor, Howell Raines, was dismissed after a fabrication scandal involving a young reporter named Jayson Blair.
Within a few weeks, in one of his first personnel moves, Mr. Keller told Ms. Miller that she could no longer cover Iraq and weapons issues. Even so, Mr. Keller said, "she kept kind of drifting on her own back into the national security realm."
And who's fault is that? Who controls that paper, the reporters or the editors?
My head is spinning from that article.
TheOtherWA |
10.15.05 - 5:08 pm | #
Yup, it went off great, the Sunnis and Shia and Kurds agree to live happily together, Bush declared Mission Accomplished and all our troops are coming home.
But... but what about the flowers and candy?
Eli |
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10.15.05 - 5:08 pm | #
On one page of my interview notes, for example, I wrote the name "Valerie Flame." Yet, as I told Mr. Fitzgerald, I simply could not recall where that came from, when I wrote it or why the name was misspelled.
As so she decided to go to jail instead of testify
And Scooter was fucking hunky dory with that plan.
Max Planck |
10.15.05 - 5:08 pm | #
Times Editors cockpunching their reporters:
"Some reporters said editors seemed reluctant to publish articles about other aspects of the case as well, like how it was being investigated by Mr. Fitzgerald. In July, Richard W. Stevenson and other reporters in the Washington bureau wrote an article about the role of Mr. Cheney's senior aides, including Mr. Libby, in the leak case. The article, which did not disclose that Mr. Libby was Ms. Miller's source, was not published.
Mr. Stevenson said he was told by his editors that the article did not break enough new ground. "It was taken pretty clearly among us as a signal that we were cutting too close to the bone, that we were getting into an area that could complicate Judy's situation," he said."
attaturk |
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10.15.05 - 5:09 pm | #
Artist's conception of Judith Miller in jail, pining for Scooter...
Mr. Keller said that before Ms. Miller went to jail, Mr. Sulzberger, the publisher, asked him to participate in meetings on legal strategy and public statements. Mr. Keller said he then turned over the supervision of the newspaper's coverage of the case to Ms. Abramson
So reporting from the preeminent newspaper in the USA was handed over to an attorney?
Al Swearengen |
10.15.05 - 5:10 pm | #
At the same time, I added, I also believed that the newspaper needed to pursue the possibility that the White House was unfairly attacking a critic of the administration.
Oh, right.
Lying bitch. Everyone knows that she was in a rage because Wilson was undercutting her own reporting.
fourlegsgood |
10.15.05 - 5:10 pm | #
Who, I ask you, is more tireless in bashing Texas?
I can attest to this - fourlegs hates Texas.
Tena |
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10.15.05 - 5:10 pm | #
Can you imagine what would have happened if Clinton had just said that he "could not remember if he had sex with Monica?"
You see this is the difference when you control the media. Nancy Grace, Chris Mathews, Coulter, and all the others, their heads would have just exploded on air with rage.
It’s easy just say I don’t remember.
sally |
10.15.05 - 5:10 pm | #
Mr. Libby, who was known to be an avid consumer of prewar intelligence assessments
Heh. I first read that as "customer of prewar intell..."
watertiger |
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10.15.05 - 5:11 pm | #
Oops! Ms. Abramson, not Floyd Abrams.
Al Swearengen |
10.15.05 - 5:11 pm | #
But... but what about the flowers and candy?
The troops have to buy that for themselves. What, you expect them to get handouts just because they served in harm's way? Fucking leeches.
NTodd |
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10.15.05 - 5:11 pm | #
Remember to remove all your hands from the sheet before putting it into the linen cupboard.
Or, put the sheets back on the bed while still slightly damp and let them air dry on the bed.
They'll be crisp and wrinkle-free.
pie |
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10.15.05 - 5:11 pm | #
Bite me, Haloscan. One of these days, I will get you. And, when I get you, I will hurt you.
Gist of lost post: Sore and tired. Raked and planted bulbs all day long. Will be more sore in the am and the squirrels better stay the fuck away from the bulbs until I put down mulch.
Me and Miss Thing on the screen porch. Martini. TakeOut Taxi man on the way. Life is good.
What's happening with America? Is she still ailing?
Hecate |
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10.15.05 - 5:12 pm | #
This is great, this is what the movement conservatives have cultivated and it's coming home to roost:
SO HOW SERIOUSLY SHOULD I TAKE THIS? [John Podhoretz]
Over the past week, I've received some vituperative e-mails from pro-Harriet-Miers people. One of them, with the initials ct, accused me of being hostile to evangelicals -- a charge I find especially outrageous because I have spent more time arguing with more passion on behalf of evangelicals and their positive role in American politics with friends who grow almost demented about the matter than on almost any other subject I can think of.
Anyway, after a while, our exchange turned hostile and I told him to jump in the lake (though I did so a little more vituperatively than that). He e-mailed me this morning to say he had posted my e-mails on his blog. I e-mailed him back to say that was a violation of my copyright, he did not have permission to do so. He e-mailed back twice.
First he said, jovially, that maybe I was right about that but that I should admit he might be right about Miers. I told him again to take down my e-mail. At which point I received this missive:
"Dude, it WAS down, but...guess what? It's going back up. And listen, jew s**t: threaten me again and I'll track your fat a** down. Nobody threatens me over the internet and doesn't pay. You filthy f---ing witch. Go tell the devil I'm on your a** now, b---h."
I responded that by threatening me physically, he might now have committed a felony (if done so over phone lines), and that I would inform both Yahoo, his internet service provider, and Blogger, the home of his blog, of his words. His reply:
"Listen Jew s***: can it. You f----d up. It was down, now it's back up. You don't like it? Learn your manners, filth. Learn your manners. And yes, I will god d--- love - LOVE - L O V E !!! to get into your world if you should get into mine. I would god d--- love it, boy. Bring it on. I became a Christian from a world that makes you s*** your pants, and I can go back to it easily."
Yes, a lesson in manners from an anti-Semitic psychotic. Just a little glance into JPod's e-mail.
Erik |
10.15.05 - 5:12 pm | #
The troops have to buy that for themselves. What, you expect them to get handouts just because they served in harm's way? Fucking leeches.
Halliburton has a special on Mars (bitches!) Bars, 5 for a sawbuck.
Eli |
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10.15.05 - 5:12 pm | #
You know, Judy just loved being the harbinger of doom prior to the war, she liked all the TV appearances and her celebrity journalist status.
Wilson showed that she was a liar. No wonder she helped the bushistas go after him.
fourlegsgood |
10.15.05 - 5:12 pm | #
At the same time, I added, I also believed that the newspaper needed to pursue the possibility that the White House was unfairly attacking a critic of the administration.
Yup, that's so like Judy.
She's got the throwaway lines at the ready.
Al Swearengen |
10.15.05 - 5:12 pm | #
It’s easy just say I don’t remember.
sally
Especially if the country already knows that you're addled and somehow feels that it adds to your appeal.
OK, I'm done mowing the lawn now. Did I miss anything?
Lennard-Jones
Well, there's this sack of blue fescue that needs to be spread yet.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar |
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10.15.05 - 5:15 pm | #
According to JFM, Fitz wanted to ask her about the sourcing, one presumes, for her other WMD stories, and it was by limiting his questioning to Libby that she agreed to testify. Would that, perchance, be the stovepipe that Judy sucked on like a cheap whore?
he added that the C.I.A. "took it upon itself to try and figure out more" by sending a "clandestine guy" to Niger to investigate.
Ooh. That ties in to what we were discussing this morning. They didn't expect the CIA to fact-check their asses.
The Plame-watchers are going to be doing some interesting fact-checking on this. Libby's annoyance is bullshit, because Tenet struck out the yellowcake lines from the Cincinatti speech. The NIE was stovepiped.
Mr. Fitzgerald asked if I could recall discussing the Wilson-Plame connection with other sources. I said I had, though I could not recall any by name or when those conversations occurred.
Oh, hohohoho. How fucking convenient.
And yes, Fitzgerald is looking to tie Big Time Dick into all this. And it's Espionage Act stuff.
pseudonymous in nc |
10.15.05 - 5:15 pm | #
You know, Judy just loved being the harbinger of doom prior to the war, she liked all the TV appearances and her celebrity journalist status.
And she got to wear that pretty uniform in Iraq.
Just like Commander Cuckoo Bananas.
Mission Accomplished.
Uniforms ought to be all the rage at Halloween parties this year.
pie |
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10.15.05 - 5:16 pm | #
"If Ms. Miller testifies, it may be immeasurably harder in the future to persuade a frightened government employee to talk about malfeasance in high places."
Who are these people at the NYT?
Poor little Scooter. Frightened little Turdblossom. Such sympathetic characters "working hard and doin swell" as Zappa once said.
Al Swearengen |
10.15.05 - 5:16 pm | #
OK, I'm done mowing the lawn now. Did I miss anything?
Fourlegs made nachos. No word whether Incog's made soup.
NTodd |
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10.15.05 - 5:16 pm | #
OK, I'm done mowing the lawn now. Did I miss anything?
Fourlegs made nachos. No word whether Incog's made soup.
NTodd |
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10.15.05 - 5:16 pm | #
I'm sad we don't have fall here.
The closest I've gotten is photographing the outdoor pumpkin display at Whole Foods.
It was nice and orange, but the experience was ruined by the 90 degree temperature.
fourlegsgood |
10.15.05 - 5:17 pm | #
Jeez. You go away for a few minutes to read and the Trojans are down by 7.
How is Colorado doing?
Eli: You have mail.
Left Lane |
10.15.05 - 5:17 pm | #
OK, I'm done mowing the lawn now. Did I miss anything?
nachos
stripper names
and a delicious bass
olexicon, Big Poppa Smurf |
10.15.05 - 5:17 pm | #
Wow Olex, they're showing the Riders game down here. Funny things happen when baseball season ends.
Catholic Jackson |
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10.15.05 - 5:18 pm | #
They'll be crisp and wrinkle-free.
pie
And your mattress will gradually have that fresh-from-the-monsoon scent about it....
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar |
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10.15.05 - 5:18 pm | #
"I felt strongly that, one, Judy deserved the support of the paper in this cause - and the editorial page is the right place for such support, not the news pages," Mr. Sulzberger said.
These guys are single handedly destroying the credibility of the NYT.
Al Swearengen |
10.15.05 - 5:18 pm | #
Correction, four legs made *delicious* nachos.
Holy shit, Texas scored again. And it's still the first half.
fourlegsgood |
10.15.05 - 5:18 pm | #
You know, Judy just loved being the harbinger of doom prior to the war, she liked all the TV appearances and her celebrity journalist status.
Wilson showed that she was a liar. No wonder she helped the bushistas go after him.
fourlegsgood
That just about nails it. Well said.
queen crab |
10.15.05 - 5:18 pm | #
. Funny things happen when baseball season ends.
Catholic Jackson |
Riders?eskimoes for a share of second plaace baby!
olexicon, Big Poppa Smurf |
10.15.05 - 5:19 pm | #
"WHIG started their defense and attacks of Wilson behind the scenes in June, before he ever came out in public about it in the NYT.
ErinPDX, I caught that too...interesting isn't it.? Sounds like they knew in advance Wilson was up to something and they were getting the smear-gear-machine in motion anticipating what he would say.
More interesting is that I got the impression that the NYT staff and management are embarassed to realize they may have been standing on principle but for the wrong reason and person.
Rather than doing a service to the public, they were serving themselves. In the end, they lose on both counts.
Once Ms. Miller was issued a subpoena in August 2004 to testify about her conversations with Mr. Libby, she and The Times vowed to fight it. Behind the scenes, however, her lawyer made inquiries to see if Mr. Libby would release her from their confidentiality agreement. Ms. Miller said she decided not to testify in part because she thought that Mr. Libby's lawyer might be signaling to keep her quiet unless she would exonerate his client. The lawyer denies it, and Mr. Libby did not respond to requests for an interview.
It appears that Ms. Judy was protecting her ass, which is surprising, since she also apparently gave it away so often.
Does the journalsim group that will be honoring her this weekend normally give out prizes to journalists who protect their asses in such a grand and dramatic way?
Shaw Kenawe |
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10.15.05 - 5:19 pm | #
How is Colorado doing?
They've been cockpunched. 35-3 in the first half.
fourlegsgood |
10.15.05 - 5:19 pm | #
You forgot about the chin, GWDPA. When you fold you hold the middle of the top of the sheet with your chin. Then you kick the bottom of the sheet up with your knee and catch its corner. Then you fold and fold and then you wad it in a ball.
Echidne of the snakes |
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10.15.05 - 5:19 pm | #
good
game
but being a riders fan i expect dissapointment
olexicon, Big Poppa Smurf |
10.15.05 - 5:19 pm | #
And your mattress will gradually have that fresh-from-the-monsoon scent about it....
Not in this climate. I've been doing it for two years and have never had a problem.
pie |
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10.15.05 - 5:19 pm | #
Judy's 'Personal Account' is probably more useful here, because it gives a sense of what Fitzgerald is asking about.
Mr. Fitzgerald asked me to examine a series of documents. Though I could not identify them with certainty, I said that some seemed familiar, and that they might be excerpts from the National Intelligence Estimate of Iraq's weapons. Mr. Fitzgerald asked whether Mr. Libby had shown any of the documents to me. I said no, I didn't think so. I thought I remembered him at one point reading from a piece of paper he pulled from his pocket.
The prosecutor asked my reaction to those words. I replied that this portion of the letter had surprised me because it might be perceived as an effort by Mr. Libby to suggest that I, too, would say we had not discussed Ms. Plame's identity. Yet my notes suggested that we had discussed her job.
Scooter? Fucked. So, so fucked.
pseudonymous in nc |
10.15.05 - 5:19 pm | #
Someday, 4Legs, you may have more than one set of sheets. That day, you will need to know how to fold, rather than wad.
Wadding works just fine for me. What is it with all you wrinkle-o-phobes?
Doozer |
10.15.05 - 5:20 pm | #
Well this about sums it up... It's not who you know but who you blow. Judy, Judy, Judy.
On July 20, William Safire, the former longtime columnist at The Times, testified about a federal shield law on Capitol Hill. Ms. Miller read his testimony and found it "inspiring."
Al Swearengen |
10.15.05 - 5:20 pm | #
That JPOD post is awful. Anti-semetic asshole.
Although, he was kind enough not to make fun of Podhoretz's backsweater.
attaturk |
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10.15.05 - 5:20 pm | #
SASKATOON, Saskatchewan, Oct. 14 - Advocates for medical marijuana can take heart over the findings of two Canadian research teams.
A synthetic cannabinoid -- similar to the compounds found in marijuana, but substantially stronger -- causes the growth of new neurons and reduces anxiety and depression, investigators at the University of Saskatchewan here reported.
olexicon, Big Poppa Smurf |
10.15.05 - 5:20 pm | #
Got a couple of the SCTV boxed-sets last night.
Still cannot figure out how it wasn't more popular than SNL.
attaturk
i think SCTV is WAAAAYYYYYY better than SNL....so much more clever & creative, & it really has heart.
SCTV stands the test of time, they are *STILL* hilarious, maybe even funnier than before...& you can tell them did it on a fraction of the budget SNL had.
my favorite is Lola Heatherton "i LOVE you bobby bittman, i wanna BEAR YOUR CHILDREN!!! haaa HAAAA."
n69n |
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10.15.05 - 5:20 pm | #
OK, I'm done mowing the lawn now. Did I miss anything?
There's a spot next to the swingset that looks like it didn't get cut.
tutu |
10.15.05 - 5:20 pm | #
These guys are single handedly destroying the credibility of the NYT.
Al Swearengen
For some of us, the credibility of the NYT was destroyed right around the time they concocted the Whitewater "scandal." I cancelled my subscription years ago.
queen crab |
10.15.05 - 5:20 pm | #
They've been cockpunched. 35-3 in the first half.
"The Cockpunchers" would be a good fallback name for one of those teams that has to get rid of an offensive Native American mascot.
Eli |
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10.15.05 - 5:21 pm | #
this is hilarious
fromk harryfishnuts
Carolyn adds: “Is the conservative movement falling apart? Says the wishful desperate Democrats and liberal media. Stop for one minute and think of 9/11, Katrina, etc. and [yet] this economy is as strong as ever. The war and bombs are going off (but not as many) in Iraq, not New York or San Francisco. And there are conservatives that are sick to death of the bleeding hearts of liberals, and we are getting stronger every day. We are not going to just let you spew it. George Bush is a great, and I thank God he is our president.”
olexicon, Big Poppa Smurf |
10.15.05 - 5:21 pm | #
I would like to state, for the record, that I, myself, can fold fitten sheets as flat as a sheet of paper, press lavender between the layers, and put them away in the linen closet. And, that this skill, hard-won though it may be, never got me laid nor obtained me one single raise. But it does make me feel like Jo from Little Women.
Hecate |
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10.15.05 - 5:21 pm | #
Before the grand jury, Mr. Fitzgerald asked me questions about Mr. Cheney. He asked, for example, if Mr. Libby ever indicated whether Mr. Cheney had approved of his interviews with me or was aware of them. The answer was no.
pseudonymous in nc |
10.15.05 - 5:21 pm | #
Don't write "fuck" in your posts. It's offensive.
tutu |
10.15.05 - 5:22 pm | #
I would like to state, for the record, that I, myself, can fold fitten sheets as flat as a sheet of paper, press lavender between the layers, and put them away in the linen closet. And, that this skill, hard-won though it may be, never got me laid nor obtained me one single raise. But it does make me feel like Jo from Little Women.
Hecate
You and me both, sister. And I'm growing my own lavender too...
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar |
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10.15.05 - 5:23 pm | #
Wadding works just fine for me. What is it with all you wrinkle-o-phobes?
Wadding takes up too much space in the linen closet. Rolling works much better.
queen crab |
10.15.05 - 5:23 pm | #
Don't write "fuck" in your posts. It's offensive.
tutu
Don't write "fuck" in your posts. It's offensive.
tutu
((this is satire)))
Well fuck what the fuck are you fucking tlaking about we can say fuck whenevr we fucking want to for fucks sake this is a free fucking speach fucking zone
olexicon, Big Poppa Smurf |
10.15.05 - 5:24 pm | #
and in fifteen minutes the bread will be through its second rising and into the oven. That gives everyone about fifty minutes before it comes out the oven all brown and toasty and ready for butter . . . .
DWD |
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10.15.05 - 5:24 pm | #
I would like to state, for the record, that I, myself, can fold fitten sheets as flat as a sheet of paper, press lavender between the layers, and put them away in the linen closet. And, that this skill, hard-won though it may be, never got me laid nor obtained me one single raise. But it does make me feel like Jo from Little Women.
Hecate
You and me both, sister. And I'm growing my own lavender too...
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar
Oh my, have I accidently happened upon Martha Stewart's blog?
queen crab |
10.15.05 - 5:25 pm | #
If your mother taught you correctly, folding fitted sheets ain't a big deal.
mer |
10.15.05 - 5:25 pm | #
Oh my, have I accidently happened upon Martha Stewart's blog?
queen crab
It's the kind of skill that Mrs. Stewart couldn't possibly have. It requires moral perfection along with patience and art.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar |
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10.15.05 - 5:26 pm | #
Pooh. None of you know the secret, that's all. I, who have been folding fitted sheets since before they had elastic, tell you that you can too fold them and fold them well.
So, what is the secret?
____league |
10.15.05 - 5:26 pm | #
Wadding works just fine for me. What is it with all you wrinkle-o-phobes?
Wadding takes up too much space in the linen closet. Rolling works much better.
queen crab
What's wrong with throwing them in the corner?
attaturk |
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10.15.05 - 5:26 pm | #
it does make me feel like Jo from Little Women.
Isn't that the one Winona Ryder played in the movie?
So if Scooter's attorney was signalling Judy not to testify isn't that witness tampering? He vigorously denies it. Judy doesn't give a shit who she screws over.
I wonder if the breakfast meeting was their first meeting of the day. Har dee har har.
ql in ny |
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10.15.05 - 5:27 pm | #
At a gathering in the newsroom, she made a speech claiming victories for press freedom. Her colleagues responded with restrained applause, seemingly as mystified by the outcome of her case as the public.
Living in the land o makebelieve.
Time to do a Med cruise with hubby, and hug the dog.
Al Swearengen |
10.15.05 - 5:27 pm | #
Atrios,
Why don't you get out some reactions to the Weekly Standard article that Eriposte is covering over at the left coaster.
patience |
10.15.05 - 5:27 pm | #
So, what is the secret?
It seems to involve having at least three right hands.
Eli |
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10.15.05 - 5:27 pm | #
If your mother taught you correctly, folding fitted sheets ain't a big deal.
We were too poor to have fitted sheets.
NTodd |
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10.15.05 - 5:27 pm | #
getting a proper handle on the fitted sheet corners is key.
Ms. Miller said she decided not to testify in part because she thought that Mr. Libby's lawyer might be signaling to keep her quiet unless she would exonerate his client.
pretty much confirm that she knew that her testimony would not exonerate his client? Isn't that an admission of that?
sdf (Stu) |
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10.15.05 - 5:28 pm | #
Why don't you get out some reactions to the Weekly Standard article that Eriposte is covering over at the left coaster.
Bill Kristol's 'Why Do These Homosexuals Keep Sucking My Cock?' article? Too funny for words.
pseudonymous in nc |
10.15.05 - 5:28 pm | #
...and yet the Times won't fire her.
She's going down . . . if you'll pardon the visual . . . either way.
watertiger |
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10.15.05 - 5:28 pm | #
Lots of plausible deniability in those NYTimes pieces, I think.
cs |
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10.15.05 - 5:28 pm | #
"Listen Jew s***: can it. You f----d up...
Yessiree, Poddy-Pod, now you know who you're in bed with. Sleep tight...
Doozer |
10.15.05 - 5:29 pm | #
Tena, you'd like Bend/Central Oregon. High dessert pine forests in the mtns, almost no rain, a lot like Telluride. And there are a lot of folks who like to work their pretend southern accents so they'd accept you no problem.
On the other hand, there is a major no-growth movement there. Mostly Californians who moved up and now want to lock the borders behind them.
ErinPDX |
10.15.05 - 5:29 pm | #
Why don't you get out some reactions to the Weekly Standard article that Eriposte is covering over at the left coaster.
And hurry the fuck up on that biofuels post!
NTodd |
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10.15.05 - 5:29 pm | #
Tutu, there should have been a following my post.
No problemo.
I fucked up.
Hey, none of that! Every "fuck" lowers the level of this discourse. I'm sorry I wrote it. People now are copying my message (with its "fuck" included), and moreover just writing "fuck" gratuitiously.
This initiative was really counterproductive.
tutu |
10.15.05 - 5:29 pm | #
She also plans on taking some time off but says she hopes to return to the newsroom.
If they don't get a restraining order baring her from coming within 100 yards of the NYT building, they'll be the laughing stock of the profession.
Al Swearengen |
10.15.05 - 5:29 pm | #
So if Scooter's attorney was signalling Judy not to testify isn't that witness tampering?
More than that, his love-letter was basically coaching her testimony.
Scooter? So fucked.
Rove? Fucked.
Cheney? I'd bet on unindicted co-fuckee.
pseudonymous in nc |
10.15.05 - 5:29 pm | #
Another option is washing, drying sheets and putting them back on the bed. Witch I will do right now.
mer |
10.15.05 - 5:30 pm | #
Back from the gym. Also picked up the new pants at the tailors.
What's going on?
flory
NTodd. Paging NTodd. Your pants are ready.
Shaw Kenawe |
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10.15.05 - 5:31 pm | #
She also plans on taking some time off but says she hopes to return to the newsroom.
That sniper's nest being built on the newsroom floor on W 43rd St may stand in her way.
pseudonymous in nc |
10.15.05 - 5:31 pm | #
Pfui.
I am now going to go iron and starch my sheets.
I have more than enough right hands to do that too. Knife edges, people, pure heavy cotton sheets starched until they crack.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar |
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10.15.05 - 5:31 pm | #
screw wrinkles anyway. All i use a bed for is fucking and sleeping. The wrinkles are the least of my concerns.
Yeah, you pretty much fucked up the discourse with that plan. Oh well, what the fuck can ya do?
NTodd |
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10.15.05 - 5:31 pm | #
Cheney? I'd bet on unindicted co-fuckee.
pseudonymous in n
with a cherry on top!
olexicon, Big Poppa Smurf |
10.15.05 - 5:31 pm | #
And, that this skill, hard-won though it may be, never got me laid nor obtained me one single raise. But it does make me feel like Jo from Little Women.
Hecate
Well, nowhere on my epitaph will it be written that I could fold fitted sheets. I belong to school of wadding them neatly. Once you get the fitted sheet stretched out on the bed, the wrinkles magically disappear. Even when the sheets are dry.
And besides, who the fuck besides Mr. QL and I are going to see that they are wrinkled anyway.
ql in ny |
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10.15.05 - 5:31 pm | #
Nice touch by the Times, "A Personal Account" by Judith Miller.
I know we're supposed to "support" Martha Stewart, but I've met Martha and have friends in common w/ Martha, and I don't like her. She's made a fortune off of making women feel guilty that they don't work all day, care for their kids, hit the gym, and come home and bake cookies w/ antique cookie cutters in their hand-stenciled kitchens. We generally do a fine job making ourselves feel guilty w/o any help. Just sayin'
Hecate |
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10.15.05 - 5:32 pm | #
Mr. Libby also sought to explain why Mr. Bush included the disputed uranium allegation in his 2003 State of the Union address, a sentence of 16 words that his administration would later retract. Mr. Libby described it as the product of a simple miscommunication between the White House and the C.I.A.
Simple miscommunication my ass! Do these assholes ever stop lying?
who the fuck besides Mr. QL and I are going to see that they are wrinkled anyway.
I believe John Ashcroft is still looking into bedrooms at will.
Left Lane |
10.15.05 - 5:33 pm | #
Don't write "fuck" in your posts. It's offensive.
tutu
Bill Kristol's 'Why Do These Homosexuals Keep Sucking My Cock?' article? Too funny for words.
pseudonymous in nc
after all of these years when these mofos have been mocking hillary clinton, for kristol to turn around and use the 'vlwc' as criminalizing republican politics' is beyond laughable. besides, kristol was the one who came clear about the big lie -- there isn't a liberal media. anybody know where the exact quote is from him on that score?
bkny |
10.15.05 - 5:33 pm | #
Hola amigos! Inching ever closer to Mr. Fristee, looks like the cops have nabbed his little brother:
TORRANCE, Calif. - A man found operating on a pigeon that he sedated with vodka was later arrested after animal control officers raided his house and discovered about 300 living and dead birds inside.
"There's droppings everywhere," Patrick Wren, the head of Torrance's animal control department, said Wednesday. "I'm wearing a mask. That says it all."
I think Little Miss "I'm Fucking Right" is being led around by her own vanity. I think they've used her, but she thought she was getting in to to see the big boys because she is so cool.
I'm sure it's been heady, being a Repug op. I hope she goes right back inside, but in the Big Girls' Jail this time - prison.
Tena |
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10.15.05 - 5:35 pm | #
I'm having a real problem hearing that Ms Miller is having difficulty remembering specific passages from her notes. Maybe its me. Seems when I write a note to myself, its to jog my brain to remember. Normally a quick review of notes and scribbles brings back conversations and talking points. I guess I must be gifted and should have been a NYT reporter.
I like this title better. "Why I'm A Real Hero" by me Judy Miller
Al Swearengen
"I was fucking proved write"
By judith miller
with forweword by Prisoner #134576 Karl Rove
and RObert Novak
olexicon, Big Poppa Smurf |
10.15.05 - 5:35 pm | #
It requires moral perfection along with patience and art.
Well that just about rules out any chance of my learning the skill.
queen crab |
10.15.05 - 5:35 pm | #
Word Hecate!
We're supposed to hold down three jobs, drive the kids all over town for sports because they've been eliminated from schools, volunteer for all the causes, .
and still have time to tie the sheets up with pretty little color coordinated bows.
ErinPDX |
10.15.05 - 5:36 pm | #
"There's droppings everywhere," Patrick Wren, the head of Torrance's animal control department, said Wednesday.
I want to add one more fuck to that.
mer |
10.15.05 - 5:36 pm | #
Isn't Judy Miller's 15 minutes of fame up yet? Does anyone still care whether or not Valerie Plame was moonlighting as "Valerie Flame" at the Nexus Club? My word, people, there are many more important things going on that our attention.
Hugh Jaynus |
10.15.05 - 5:36 pm | #
Pie! You're kidding. THAT actually works?
Yep. The bed looks neat and tidy...
until the next morning. Cotton sheets do tend to look better longer though.
Okay, enough of that.
pie |
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10.15.05 - 5:36 pm | #
You and me both, sister. And I'm growing my own lavender too...
GWPDA
All right, all right. Can fold fitted sheets and grow the lavendar. Humph. Can you make a quilt?
ql in ny |
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10.15.05 - 5:37 pm | #
I'm sure it's been heady, being a Repug op. I hope she goes right back inside, but in the Big Girls' Jail this time - prison.
Tena | Email | Homepage | 10.15.05 - 5:35 pm | #
If not I plan to put on some great street theatre when she goes on the book tour.
ErinPDX |
10.15.05 - 5:37 pm | #
"Mr. Fitzgerald asked if I could recall discussing the Wilson-Plame connection with other sources. I said I had, though I could not recall any by name or when those conversations occurred."
judyjusy, the ace reporter, big on details, can't remember any fucking thing of substance...
the times is a fucking disgrace for swallowing her bullshit, and an even bigger disgrace for shilling for her 'principles', and is an even bigger disgrace to keep her employed.
BTW, I fucking apologize for my fucking oversight at neglecting to fucking acculturate to the thread. WTF was I thinking?
JeffCO |
10.15.05 - 5:37 pm | #
Don't write "fuck" in your posts. It's offensive.
tutu
Moah-Dib: I'm having a real problem hearing that Ms Miller is having difficulty remembering specific passages from her notes. Maybe its me. Seems when I write a note to myself, its to jog my brain to remember.
Hey, it's not like she's a real news reporter or anything.
Al Swearengen |
10.15.05 - 5:38 pm | #
"I'm not a reporter, but I play one on TV."
Left Lane |
10.15.05 - 5:39 pm | #
"The Cockpunchers" would be a good fallback name for one of those teams that has to get rid of an offensive Native American mascot.
Eli
I nominate the Washington Redskins.
flory |
10.15.05 - 5:39 pm | #
There's no quilt in me.
Eli |
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10.15.05 - 5:39 pm | #
I received a letter in the mail today from Dennis Hastert, the Speaker of the House and Gooper extra-ordinaire.
How they got my name is a mystery, but the letter says that I have been selected from a pool of 1000 names to participate in a National Policy Survey called "Ask America!"
Man, did I give them an earful!!!
Rudy |
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10.15.05 - 5:39 pm | #
ErinPDX - Ooh, that sounds just lovely. And Mr. Tena loves Oregon - he's been there a number of times; he prefers Portland to Seattle. I haven't gotten to go on any of his trips to Oregon - I haven't been there.
Maybe we could kind of sneak in. After all, the Texans didn't stop the Californians from coming in and all but ruining the western slope. Now it's the Floridians. Oy!
She's a sausage nibbler posing as a reporter.
Al Swearengen |
10.15.05 - 5:39 pm | #
TORRANCE, Calif. - A man found operating on a pigeon that he sedated with vodka was later arrested after animal control officers raided his house and discovered about 300 living and dead birds inside.
"There's droppings everywhere," Patrick Wren, the head of Torrance's animal control department, said Wednesday. "I'm wearing a mask. That says it all."
JeffCO
Mr. Wren investigates pigeongate!
Thanks, JeffCO, for the best laugh of the week.
Shaw Kenawe |
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10.15.05 - 5:40 pm | #
It comes from living so close to the biggest landfill project in the world.
What a nice sound to hear laughter and family goofiness coming from my new neighbors after listening to a raging moron five years prior.
footlooseandfancyfree |
10.15.05 - 5:40 pm | #
I'm thinking Vodka Pigeon would be a good name for an eastern European ska band.
JeffCO |
10.15.05 - 5:40 pm | #
on the house keeping: if you strip the bed, allow the bed to air while the sheets are being washed and dried, then remaking the bed...there is no need for folding.
jdw |
10.15.05 - 5:41 pm | #
on the house keeping: if you strip the bed, allow the bed to air while the sheets are being washed and dried, then remaking the bed...there is no need for folding.
jdw |
10.15.05 - 5:41 pm | #
What's wrong with throwing them in the corner?
attaturk
Sheets do not belong wadded up in the corner. Lingerie, you betcha. If it's good lingerie and has done it's job, that's where it ends up after about 5 minutes.
TheOtherWA |
10.15.05 - 5:41 pm | #
In May and in early June, Nicholas D. Kristof, a columnist at The Times, wrote of Mr. Wilson's trip to Niger without naming him. Mr. Kristof wrote that Mr. Wilson had been sent to Niger "at the behest" of Mr. Cheney's office.
My notes indicate that Mr. Libby took issue with the suggestion that his boss had had anything to do with Mr. Wilson's trip. "Veep didn't know of Joe Wilson," I wrote, referring to the vice president. "Veep never knew what he did or what was said. Agency did not report to us."
Now how did she know this, because Scooter said so?
Aren't the facts that he did know? Anyone recall?
Al Swearengen |
10.15.05 - 5:41 pm | #
That verizon DSL offer is looking more tempting all the time.
In my opinion Martha Stewart knowing how to fold fitted sheets would not be near enough to get her laid.
On the other hand I think Hecate and GWPDA would be quite sucessful even without sheet folding skill.
____league |
10.15.05 - 5:42 pm | #
Isn't it odd to writed something as fact rather than Libby said?
Al Swearengen |
10.15.05 - 5:42 pm | #
This "Ask America" is a Gooper survey (paid for I'm sure by US taxpayers) which they claim is, "The Republican Party is conducting a grass-roots project as a critical part of our efforts to strengthen our Party by getting more Americans involved!"
What a load of crap that is.
As if the Goopers really give a fuck about what is happening to Americans. If they did tax cuts wouldn't have gone to the rich and affordable healthcare coverage would be available to all - just for starters!
Rudy |
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10.15.05 - 5:43 pm | #
Pfui.
I am now going to go iron and starch my sheets.
Forget not saying Fuck...stop saying "sheets" unless Atrios has a new post up.
attaturk |
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10.15.05 - 5:43 pm | #
She's made a fortune off of making women feel guilty that they don't work all day
Even as she's worked all day and not had a particularly happy home life.
She's over the top. That's why one must pick and choose her stuff. I wouldn't trade places with her for anything.
Gotta be happy with who you are. Nothing else is as important.
pie |
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10.15.05 - 5:44 pm | #
Re: "civility" on the decline, it seems to me that in more "civil" eras, life was solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short. I'd gladly fucking trade a little rudeness for a better quality of life overall...
NTodd |
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10.15.05 - 5:44 pm | #
Hecate - I'll tell you what, Martha Stewart takes good taste so far that it is over into bad taste. She's just ruined perfectly lovely ideas and things by micromanaging them into some kind of insane perfection. It's all so good, it just caricatures itself.
I have yet to achieve the grace of being knighted or skewered by Kos or Atrios
If comparing hit rates from Ted Rall, who is of course primarily a *cartoonist* and has a rather inactive blog (so far this month he's posted on the 2nd, 8th, 9th and 12th) with mega-blogger Instapundit, isn't inane enough to get you some attention from Kos or Atrios, then don't let it get you down.
I think you're in the sweet spot here with loopy reasoning that doesn't hold up to even a tiny bit of critical analysis, a target on the nut-fringe left, and a connection to Instapundit that gives you huge visibility. It's got all the right elements to get some attention from Kos or Atrios, and I hope I can say this without getting your hopes up too much, *maybe both*.
He's trying so hard. Throwing his integrity away, making silly arguments just to suck up to the wingnuts and to try to provoke some ridicule from the left. Please, Atrios, give him a link, and the ridicule he's trying so hard to earn?
Teya |
10.15.05 - 5:44 pm | #
Do I have to buy the NYT tomorrow, or could someone summarize for a poor, sore, old woman what the NYT says about it's biggest, most prominent whore?
Hecate |
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10.15.05 - 5:44 pm | #
Oh good! It's getting kinda chilly around here...
NTodd
You canna have me new pants....
flory |
10.15.05 - 5:45 pm | #
Aren't the facts that he did know? Anyone recall?
I don't think anything says he knew. It's that wingnuts have accused Wilson of saying that Cheney knew, when Wilson has been pretty clear in saying that his mission was triggered by an inquiry from the VP's office, rather than ordered by Big Time Dick.
I'm having a real problem hearing that Ms Miller is having difficulty remembering specific passages from her notes.
Me too, given that she hasn't actually done that much reporting since her return from 'Hide The Salami' with MET Team Alpha.
pseudonymous in nc |
10.15.05 - 5:45 pm | #
Martha Stewart knowing how to fold fitted sheets would not be near enough to get her laid.
Indeed. It's the vanilla aroma that got her laid.
NTodd |
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10.15.05 - 5:45 pm | #
QL - disks are done. Will mail Monday
(Simply not a big deal)
DWD |
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10.15.05 - 5:45 pm | #
GWDPA, come on over and have at it here.
For starters I finally need photo albums before the kids go off to college.
Help!!!!!
ErinPDX |
10.15.05 - 5:45 pm | #
She's a which! Burn her! NTodd
Don't you need to compare her wait to a duct first?
JeffCO |
10.15.05 - 5:46 pm | #
Don't write "fuck" in your posts. It's offensive.
tutu
Fuck uckfay baise scopata foda cogida bumsen.
Now you can really get offended.
Dartanyon |
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10.15.05 - 5:46 pm | #
If that's the case Al, then why are they letting her get away with it? Unless, there is someone else being protected that no one knows about?
It annoys the hell out of me to hear a reporter that can't, or won't, re-read their notes and recall the conversation, talking points, and who the guest speakers were.
Do I have to buy the NYT tomorrow, or could someone summarize for a poor, sore, old woman what the NYT says about it's biggest, most prominent whore?
Shorter NYT: 'Judy won't talk to us. But she treats us like hired help anyway, so what's new?' Stonewall-tastic. Keller and Pinch basically let her roam free and do what the fuck she wanted.
Judy's piece is the interesting (and shorter) one of the two. Not for what she says, but for what Fitz asked her about.
pseudonymous in nc |
10.15.05 - 5:47 pm | #
Rudy - "The Republican Party is conducting a grass-roots project as a critical part of our efforts to strengthen our Party by getting more Americans involved!"
When you run it through the translator, what comes out is: The Republican Party is going down in flames and needs all hands on deck.
Tena |
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10.15.05 - 5:47 pm | #
A man found operating on a pigeon that he sedated with vodka
Did he use itty bitty shooters?
RealTexan |
10.15.05 - 5:48 pm | #
It annoys the hell out of me to hear a reporter that can't, or won't, re-read their notes and recall the conversation, talking points, and who the guest speakers were.
Me too. But since Judy was plainly answerable to no-one, she can use the 'I can't recall' defence, since she never had to check in with an editor.
pseudonymous in nc |
10.15.05 - 5:48 pm | #
The letter goes on to say, "The goal is to help the Leadership of the Republican Party gain an on-going and in-depth understanding of the issues which are of greatest concern to Americans like you!"
More bullshit.
From going over the questions they ask, it's apparent that what they are doing is seeing how much support there is out there for Bushboy's horrendous policy choices from the war in Iraq, to his rape of Medicare, to his attempt to sabotage Social Security.
I'm going to list the questions and my answers in my blog starting tomorrow.
una panuna banka
olexicon, Big Poppa Smurf |
10.15.05 - 5:48 pm | #
Judy should be all washed up.
fourlegsgood
deloused?
olexicon, Big Poppa Smurf
Well, the NYT itself is the one needs a good spring cleaning and disinfecting. A paint job is all we'll see, though...
Doozer |
10.15.05 - 5:48 pm | #
"Do I have to buy the NYT tomorrow, or could someone summarize for a poor, sore, old woman what the NYT says about it's biggest, most prominent whore?
Hecate"
basically, the slimes says they stood for principle and behind their reporter..
their reporter can't remember a fucking thing that implicates any chimpco official in the plame outing.
in short, the slimes stands behind lying reporters while hiding behind 'principle' and judy's rolodex.
jdw |
10.15.05 - 5:48 pm | #
Even the fitted ones? I have trouble with the fitted ones, meself.
flory
Read the thread. We've been discussing who can and who can't fold fitted sheets for waaaaaaaaaaay too long. I'm in the can't camp.
ql in ny |
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10.15.05 - 5:49 pm | #
Hecate, it's really long and I'm guessing there will be another story tomorrow. They spend pages and pages just talking about Sultzberger's stupid excuses. Supposedly he didn't even know about some of this until Thurs. They let the bitch run wild, esp after her supervisor left in 2002 to come out here to Portland to work for The Oregonian. I read it quick but posted the good stuff earlier in this thread.
To me the really new thing is the extent to which WHIG was working against Wilson well before he put out his editorial in July. They knew they were being fucked by the lack of WMD and were going to be caught.
ErinPDX |
10.15.05 - 5:49 pm | #
When you run it through the translator, what comes out is: The Republican Party is going down in flames and needs all hands on deck.
Is there an emoticon for "fuckin A"?
tutu |
10.15.05 - 5:50 pm | #
Even the fitted ones? I have trouble with the fitted ones, meself.
flory
See above. I've given instructions.
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10.15.05 - 5:50 pm | #
They knew they were being fucked by the lack of WMD and were going to be caught.
And Scooter was especially pissed off by the notion that the CIA might do fact-checking.
pseudonymous in nc |
10.15.05 - 5:50 pm | #
I have yet to achieve the grace of being knighted or skewered by Kos or Atrios
I can come up with some wacko stuff if it will get me noticed.
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10.15.05 - 5:50 pm | #
typed fuck in google and brought up
this old gem first
Exactly. There's nothing enjoyable about her little hobbies. Its an obsession with her, bordering on compulsion...maybe psychosis.
flory |
10.15.05 - 5:51 pm | #
When you run it through the translator, what comes out is: The Republican Party is going down in flames and needs all hands on deck.
It burst into flames! … It's burning and it's crashing! It's crashing, terrible! Oh, my! Get out of the way, please! It's burning, bursting into flames and is falling on the mooring mast, and all the folks between... oh, this is terrible. This is one of the worst catastrophes in the world! … It's a terrific crash, ladies and gentlemen, it's smoke and it's flames, now, and the frame is crashing to the ground, not quite to the mooring mast…Oh, the humanity, and all the passengers screaming around here!
Herbert Morrison |
10.15.05 - 5:51 pm | #
Don't you need to compare her wait to a duct first?
Who our ewe who our sew whys in the weighs of sinus?
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10.15.05 - 5:52 pm | #
"When you run it through the translator, what comes out is: The Republican Party is going down in flames and needs all hands on deck."
Usually these types of letters/surveys/invitations are basically asking for $ in the guise of wanting your views...the dnc sends them out, too, and I'm certain doesn't even tabulate or consider any results..
jdw |
10.15.05 - 5:52 pm | #
typed fuck in google and brought up this old gem first
Judy Miller is done, fucked and ruined.
Arabella |
10.15.05 - 5:55 pm | #
now that I've read the thread, I wish that I had ordered nachos instead of Greek.
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10.15.05 - 5:55 pm | #
If that's the case Al, then why are they letting her get away with it? Unless, there is someone else being protected that no one knows about?
It annoys the hell out of me to hear a reporter that can't, or won't, re-read their notes and recall the conversation, talking points, and who the guest speakers were.
Sounds completely dishonest.
Silly me, and here I thought that's why reporters take notes in the first place. I mean, she wrote that Scotter said Dickhead didn't know about the Wilson trip.
Why? because they've grown fat and comfortable where they are and don't want to rock the boat so close to retirement.
Me too. But since Judy was plainly answerable to no-one, she can use the 'I can't recall' defence, since she never had to check in with an editor.
This is outrageous, and admitted to by the editors.
Neither man asked Ms. Miller detailed questions about her conversations with Mr. Libby.
Al Swearengen |
10.15.05 - 5:55 pm | #
Can you make a quilt?
ql in ny
Yes, ma'am. 15 stitches to an inch. Also am able to turn a collar and get another few years' wear out of it, cut out a pretty good looking dress without a pattern. Did some whitework monogram the other day on some old Pequot mills pillow cases. What can I tell you, the handwork gene skipped a generation in my family. Grandmama taught me well. Mummy however, taught me light plumbing, electrical, brickwork and gardening, tax accountancy (US and Canada) and how to buy and sell property without stress.
Off to iron. Who do you think makes sure those new sheets are ready when A. puts them up?
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar |
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10.15.05 - 5:55 pm | #
Sounds completely dishonest.
regards
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Moad -Dib |
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I guess she would have us believe she never once in the two years since the brohaha started went back and referred to her notes or tried to reconstruct her conversations with Libby. I buy that.
No fucking way.
ql in ny |
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10.15.05 - 5:57 pm | #
Fitted sheets are easier than flats. You fold the corners into each other. I think GWPDA described how it's done. You hold the sheet upside down with your hand in the right pocket, fold the other half of the sheet over and nest the pockets, fold the edges together. Then you can fold it into a neat whatever.
Flat sheets are hard to hold onto, I find.
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10.15.05 - 5:58 pm | #
Flory - The pieces are linked upthread.
ql in ny |
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10.15.05 - 5:59 pm | #
I guess she would have us believe she never once in the two years since the brohaha started went back and referred to her notes or tried to reconstruct her conversations with Libby.
I'm surprised she didn't buy them [her notes] passage on a Carnival "round-the-world" cruise just to put some distance between them and herself.
Al Swearengen |
10.15.05 - 6:00 pm | #
My mom used to iron our sheets but I broke with that tradition.
?® |
10.15.05 - 6:00 pm | #
... and without a lifejacket
Al Swearengen |
10.15.05 - 6:01 pm | #
Who our ewe who our sew whys in the weighs of sinus? NTodd
Eye new u whir a homophone!
JeffCO |
10.15.05 - 6:05 pm | #
Wadding takes up too much space in the linen closet.
Doozer |
10.15.05 - 6:06 pm | #
Thanks for the Times link. Interesting article. I thought this bit was chewy:
As Ms. Miller, 57, remained resolute and moved closer to going to jail for her silence, the leadership of The Times stood squarely behind her.
"She'd given her pledge of confidentiality," said Arthur Sulzberger Jr., the publisher. "She was prepared to honor that. We were going to support her."
But Mr. Sulzberger and the paper's executive editor, Bill Keller, knew few details about Ms. Miller's conversations with her confidential source other than his name. They did not review Ms. Miller's notes. Mr. Keller said he learned about the "Valerie Flame" notation only this month. Mr. Sulzberger was told about it by Times reporters on Thursday.
Interviews show that the paper's leadership, in taking what they considered to be a principled stand, ultimately left the major decisions in the case up to Ms. Miller, an intrepid reporter whom editors found hard to control.
Sounds like they're washing their hands of her.
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10.15.05 - 6:09 pm | #
What's wrong with throwing them in the corner?
attaturk
Not a fucking thing!
And I see I fucked up the fucking tags again. The missing part was; What's a "linen closet"?
Doozer |
10.15.05 - 6:15 pm | #
She also plans on taking some time off but says she hopes to return to the newsroom.
Interesting they don't say "...taking some time off before returning to the newsroom". Kinda leaves it up in the air. Kinda dangly like. Dangle, Judy, dangle...
Dangle
Dangle
They oughtta take a rope & hangle
High from the highest treeeeeee
Fuck you and your WMD!
Doozer |
10.15.05 - 6:22 pm | #
Don't write "fuck" in your posts. It's offensive.
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