HULK SMASHED
Fristle?
Wow.
And that is pretty fucking sleazy. Which makes it par for the course.
Yes! Fire her ass! And Pinch's!
thrid?
Alec Baldwin as Joe Wilson and Phillip Seymour Hoffman as Rove. Richard Dreyfus as Cheney.
Does Dreyfus have a good sneer?
Based on Ms. Miller's account, and what she left out, everyone associated with Palme event is screwed beyond human imagination.
As my sources say:: "It's Bad."
Next, Scooter will ask to be identified as "a poor black boy from Alabama".
Atrios raises a good point: why did Arthur Sulzberger Jr. protect Little Judy Warmonger every step of the way?
The depth of his protect extended well beyond a reporter protecting his or her sources.
I wonder what ties to the Bush dynasty does Sulzberger have?
Dunno. I think he's got it in him. He's already played a sleazy right-winger in the American President. That was him right?
Happy Judy miller day at the eschaton!
it's better than hearinmg test tuesday and diorama-rama
I thought that smelled, too. She let it slide because he actually did work on the Hill at some point.
So it's factually true, but utterly dishonest.
What scum these people are!
Atrios has it right. When I worked in the MSM ethical reporters would give a source some form of cover but never deceptive cover,l which this was.
Judy is a journalistic whore. Any reporter who did that sort fo thing and was discovered should be fired.
"Does Dreyfus have a good sneer?"
Dreyfus has a great sneer. And a rosy glow.
JAne Seymour as Judy Wilson
No idea if Miller ever granted such a thing, but any reporter who ever did should be fired, along with their editors.
She never wrote a story. But she agreed to the deceptive sourcing, and for that, I suspect that Byron Calame may have already donned his hobnails to deliver a kicking.
Here's a question: have other NYT staffers engaged in similar, deceptive sourcing? Or was this a privilege granted to JFM on account of the fact that no-one told her what to do?
Scooter: Listen Judy, I have this kachina doll of anonymities. Now I would like to use the "former hill staffer" doll instead of the "senior administration official" doll.
Judy: That sounds fine. It's not like you can use all these dolls.
who the fuck is judy wilson. one of the B-52s
Alternative sourcing 101:
'A former AWOL alcoholic'
'A former defence industry CEO'
'A former swingers' club patron'
This is fun!
Now, that certainly is an interesting dodge. I mean, how would a 'former hill staffer' have access to this kind of information?
Alternative sourcing 101:
'A former AWOL alcoholic'
'A former defence industry CEO'
'A former swingers' club patron'
This is fun!
"A former figure skater and concert pianist"
The nightmare on 43rd street continues unabated.
A gay prostitute turned reporter.
'A former swingers' club patron'
This is fun!
pseudonymous in nc
'a former stanford employeee'
'a former defence secretary under ford'
'a former texas attorney'
'a former white house chief of staff'
'a former employee of the month at Arbees"
CAN I JUST RIMIND PEOPLE THAT JUDY WAS LEAKING INFORMATION THAT THE ADMISISTRATION WANTED THE PUBLIC TO HEAR.
SO ALL THIS CRAP ABOUT PROTECTING SOURSES IS BULLSHIT.
IF THIS WAS RUSSIA JUDY WOULD BE WORKING FOR PRAVDA.
Sorry to shout, but the media is so stupid you have too.
Pardons all around for WHIG. And the press will just play it as olitics as usual.
'a former iraqi dictator'
'a former bank fraud felon in jordan'
"A former figure skater and concert pianist"
A former college dropout who got his wife pregnant to avoid the Vietnam draft.
What Miller has done is turn journalistic privilege inside out. This wasn't a case where an anonymous source had to remain anonymous because a job would be jeopardized, or something else endangered.
This case involves nothing like - and it should have been completely obvious to everyone that here the ones leaking are the bosses. They stand to lose nothing. They used her as a conduit to disseminate propaganda, basically.
This really has nothing to do with the First Amendment, except in a twisted sense. It has everything to do with the way the Right inverts everything and uses it in a backwards kind of way. And that's what they're doing here with the First Amendment and journalistic privilege.
' a former Enron CEO'
Wow, USC's decision not to have instant replay may well have cost them the game. I thought it might when I heard.
' a former Iran Ayatollah'
methinks the USC/ND game is FUBARed.
Or not.
A hypothetical question:
How would things been different if Howell Raines was still the editorial page editor of The New York Times?
I thought it might when I heard.
pseudonymous in nc
and they lose to the evil notre dame
well i gotta go watch this shit
Alec Baldwin as Joe Wilson and Phillip Seymour Hoffman as Rove. Richard Dreyfus as Cheney.
Who plays the chimp?
And sorry my typing errors are so crap!
How would things been different if Howell Raines was still the editorial page editor of The New York Times?
I'm thinking... none.
The college equivalent of USSR over USA in Munich.
why is the uSC player crying?
and homer the vigilante is on!
and they lose to the evil notre dame
Guess not. I'm not even sure what just happened.
Revealing her working methods, perhaps too clearly,
As I said downstairs, anyone who has an itch and a possible basis for suing JFM's NYT over a published piece should do so. The newspaper of record clearly maintains no standards of note keeping or source tracking.
Critics have long suggested that Miller was not even working on a story about the Joseph Wilson trip to Niger when she talked to Libby and others in 2003. But the Times' article reveals that she had been assigned to write a story about the failure to find WMDs in Iraq, but this was her beat, so it's hard to understand why she would need an assignment. In any case, in talking to Libby on June 23, 2003, he wanted to talk about Wilson.
Shout out to Greg Mitchell at E&P. Thanks for your piece.
You're right sally...reporting a hot scoop that is nothing more that propoganda that the Administration wants to steer the public away from the truth.
regards
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Who plays the chimp?
?®
obviously the star of the series "hail to the chimp"
The referees have made Touchdown Jesus cry. 
Who plays the chimp?
?®
A puppet? CGI?
Guess not. I'm not even sure what just happened.
pie
clearly it is a conspiracy by Pete carrool to confuse the nation
Maybe just use actual footage of the Chimp ala "Good Night and Good Luck" with McCarthy. Or Timothy Bottoms or that guy on Jay Leno. John Stewart has the vocalisms down if not the look. ???
Didn't this game start at 3:30?
sally, are you a reincarnation of cheryl?
Who plays the chimp?
?®
J. Fred Muggs, Jr.
The referees have made Touchdown Jesus cry
Attaturk ... Are you a Domer? Sister of Res is ...
What scum these people are!
Of course, I would imagine that the response of the Richard Cohens, Andrea Mitchells and Chris Matthews of the media is that this kind of stuff goes on in Washington all the time, and therefore it is OK.
Maybe just use actual footage of the Chimp ala "Good Night and Good Luck" with McCarthy. Or Timothy Bottoms or that guy on Jay Leno. John Stewart has the vocalisms down if not the look. ???
I think Anthony LaPaglia could do a really good job, but I'm a crazy person.
Now is time for zombies!
clearly it is a conspiracy by Pete carrool to confuse the nation
Michigan wins in the last second, and USC gets a do-over to win the game.
by pretending the information was coming from somewhere.
I assume there is a missing 'else' on the end of that.
Unless some kind of personal relationship or common cause is involved, this should have resulted in the termination of the meeting. Asumming the reporter had any integrety.
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The referees have made Touchdown Jesus cry
Attaturk ... Are you a Domer? Sister of Res is ...
res ipsa loquitur
No, not at all. I have no real rooting interest other than perhaps rooting against USC because they've got such a streak going.
It was a hell of a football game.
Also, further down in the article, she granted his request that if she used his information, to refer to him as "an administration official", which would be fucking anyone of about 200,000 people.
So she, on three separate occasions, grants his request that he be named as something other than WHO is is, I Lewis Libby, and on two of those occasions, she grants his request to be identified as something other than WHAT he is, namely a senior White House official and on one occasion, she grants his request to not only be identified as something other that either who, or what he is, but even what branch of government he works for, in a deliberate attempt to perpetrate a fraud on the public.
Even though she never wrote a story about this matter, she quite clearly AGREED to grant the request he made to be identified as a former capitol hill staffer, having no problem with this whatsoever, because he once worked on the Hill. It doesn't matter that a fraud is being perpetrated here and she has now agreed to commit that fraud and participate in it.
Of course Atrios is right. She should be fucking fired.
and Toronto/Montreal
on Hockey Night in Canada
USC SUCKS FUCKING ASS!!!!!!!!
FUCK THEM
HOW CAN THE GAME END AND THEY STILL WIN.
FUCK THOSE FUCKING ASSHOLES!!!!!
NOTRE DAME WON THE FUCKING GAME!!!!!
THE REF'S WORK FOR DIEBOLD
Who plays the chimp?
?®
A puppet? CGI?
Meander
Koko?
.
Hey, Return Of The Living Dead 4: Necropolis has an IMDb rating of 9.7, which makes it quite possibly the greatest movie of all time!
Koko?
.
agave
No, wait. She's too smart!
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Who plays the chimp?
Any monkey they can find in the zoo
Who plays the chimp?
Now watch this drive...
Michigan wins in the last second, and USC gets a do-over to win the game.
pie
and the Roughriders/Emonton game went down to the last second too(strictly my team in the CFL against the Hated Edmonton Eskimoes)
OT but thought you might enjoy this strip from SF Gate:
http://tinyurl.com/dt5d2
NOTRE DAME WON THE FUCKING GAME!!!!!
They had to clear the field for the last play, because everyone else thought the game was over.
It's not a reporter's fucking job to grant their sources "plausible deniability".
And isn't a reporter supposed to report what happens? Facts, truth (small "t")? A lot of what Judy F Miller wrote, however, was untrue. If she's a reporter, so are Stephen King and John Grisham.
"Fabulist" is more like it.
If she's a reporter, so are Stephen King and John Grisham.
"Fabulist" is more like it.
Don't hate her 'cuz she's fabulist.
wow football heaven!!!
It's not a reporter's fucking job to grant their sources "plausible deniability".
She only reported one side of the story.
That makes her a propagandist.
End of discussion.
I will *pay* Donovan McNabb's mom to go away.
She only reported one side of the story.
That makes her a propagandist.
End of discussion.
Well, unless she only reported the *factual* side of the story...
"who plays the chimp?"
An animation of Alfred E. Newman.
Like I said earlier, Libby is apparently the regime's fall guy in this disaster.
Now, can Fitzgerald come up with more?
I sure hope so.
How about Pat Butrum as Cheney?
much as i hate to say it, i think both the mi and usc were rightly decided...
judy and the nyt's are scum.
Well, unless she only reported the *factual* side of the story...
I thought about that after I posted it. I have no problem with posting two sides. We saw Powell's presentation and called *bullshit*.
Ya gotta have both sides.
hey, doesn't this all mean there's a critical need for a 'blogger's ethics' symposium?
hey, doesn't this all mean there's a critical need for a 'blogger's ethics' symposium?
jdw
I thought they were biweekly
It's not a reporter's fucking job to grant their sources "plausible deniability".
It is, apparently, if that reporter works for JFM's NYT. As long as she's on the masthead, as long as they continue to stand behind JFM as an institution, she is the measure of their professionalism.
And after she's gone, she can take her NYT with her.
Can't we bring back the French Revolution style crisis resolution for at least a couple of weeks?
Please?
Daryn, Gerkin, Rush = Ewwwww.
"How about Pat Butrum as Cheney?"
For Cheney I think it would be best if we got Cloris Leachman to reprise her role as Nurse Diesel from "High Anxiety". In other words, the role of Cheney will be played by Nurse Diesel.
much as i hate to say it, i think both the mi and usc were rightly decided...
And OU beat MSU.
Sorry, Ohio State beat MSU.
And who the hell let Kenny Lofton walk out of the house dressed like that?
U
S
C
!
U
S
C
!
"How about Pat Butrum as Cheney?"
Rod Steiger *is* Viceroy HAL.
My only consolation is that USC players will end up cutting the lawns of Notre Dame players in 6 years.
Notre Dame players will have degrees, USC players will have bad knees, bad backs and a drug problem.
Poor bastards.
ohyeahfuckbush
BRAINS!!!
*ahem*
Sorry.
I must say, I'm getting a little skeptical about that 9.7 IMDb rating. This doesn't deserve better than an 8.1, tops.
When the subject turned to Mr. Wilson, Mr. Libby requested that he be identified only as a "former Hill staffer."
So much for the defense that's been floated about just wanting to give background information to reporters, rather than actually generating an article.
Candidate Sleeps In City Limits
A candidate for Glen Alpine town mayor is being challenged about whether he actually lives in the town limits...
Greer Suttlemyre, director of elections for the Burke County Board of Elections, said the town limits line runs through Suttles home that he has lived in for nearly 20 years.
Suttlemyre said, according to a general statute, the determination will be made based on where Suttles sleeps. And Suttles said his bedroom where he sleeps is located in the town limits. He said almost two-thirds of his home is located within the town limits, the town picks up his trash and a town light pole is in his yard.
Suttles said he got a letter Thursday informing him his candidacy was being challenged. But Suttles is ready for the challenge, which he believes boils down to dirty politics. Suttles has been a fireman for the town for years.
"When they ask me to do something they don't ask me where I live," Suttles said. "When I get called out of the bed in the middle of the night to put out a fire, they don't ask me where I live."
He said he wants to be mayor of the town in order to get the town on the right track. Even though his candidacy has been challenged, he has not stopped campaigning.
"I don't want to throw no dirt but if they want to play dirty I'll back my truck up," Suttles said.
Christine Abernathy and Michael Cook also are running for mayor of Glen Alpine.
http://www.morganton.com/servlet...th=%
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The fact that Miller isn't just humilliated by her WMD performance and still used Chalabi for a source and doesn't feel betrayed by Libby, can only mean one thing.
She does not care what the truth is.
She's a willing participant in disinformation/propaganda with the usual justification of a higher purpose.
In other words, she's part of an effort that is more (or less) than just being a good reporter and actually makes it irrelavant.
.
hey, doesn't this all mean there's a critical need for a 'blogger's ethics' symposium?
As linked to in the comments at FDL: Martini Republic Judith Miller, Times editors source like third-rate bloggers.
"She does not care what the truth is."
It's worse then that. The NYT's doesn't care, either. They kept her employed because of her access to power. The truth, or lack of it, was not considered important.
A former paramour of an Iraqi exile leader/CIA asset.
That makes her a propagandist.
End of discussion.
pie
Yeah, Why can't I just sum it up like that?
.
As a Duck fan I need USC to win because we have only lost to USC.
Oregon ducks never get credit they deserve.
Pac 10 Rules!!!!!
In case anybody cares...
It's canadiens 1 - 1 Maple Leafs after the first period
those new rules are saving professional hockey
respect
those new rules are saving professional hockey
respect
Plum P
indeedy
and they seem to have a more balanced sport with talent eveywhere
Sorry, Ohio State beat MSU.
pie
Yawn
"Sorry, Ohio State beat MSU."
I know, which means my wife will be pleasant to live with this evening...thank god..
Wonder if Rove asked to be identified as a "former George HW Bush administration offical"?
Buh-dump-bump.
and they seem to have a more balanced sport with talent eveywhere
Even in New York?
Although with Satan on the Islanders' side, who needs talent?
"Oregon ducks never get credit they deserve."
That's 'cuz they're not what they're quacked up to be.
I can't spell.
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...and you got your bit player spots to fill like lyin Scotty McWeasel and Jimmy/Jeff (maybe he'll get a larger role)
Ya gotta have both sides.
Oh, fuck.
There weren't two sides in the run-up to war, but there were people who insisted that war was necessary.
Exposing them, as Powell's speech was by many people, would have been a nice little education.
That's what I mwant by two sides.
You just can't shut down the opposition.
and don cherry was dressed almost sanely
...almost
Thanks, Monica. I enjoyed this tidbit in Martine Republic:
And when the prosecutor in the case asked her to explain how “Valerie Flame” appeared in the same notebook she used in interviewing Mr. Libby, Ms. Miller said she “didn’t think” she heard it from him. “I said I believed the information came from another source, whom I could not recall,” she wrote on Friday, recounting her testimony for an article that appears today.
I could leak stuff to Judy Miller and she could call me "a former elementary school student".
Wonder if Rove asked to be identified as a "former George HW Bush administration offical"?
Buh-dump-bump.
melior in France
"a former resident of a southern state"
"someone who did NOT know Jeff Gannon"
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Ya gotta have both sides.
Once you assume there are only two sides,
you've already lost half the battle.
Love,
olexicon: exactement! The talentless plumbers are staying on the bench, and the skaters with talent finally shine.
They retired Dickie Moore, Jean Béliveau and Boom Boom Geoffrion 's jerseys tonite. The Canadien will celebrate 100 years in 2009. With a LOT of hard work, they could get a 25th Stanley Cup for the anniversary? It would be brilliant!
Man.
Judy and others didn't present two sides.
Proofread.
I'm gonna leave now.
What I'm sorry about is that this country had devolved into this mess.
Thank you very much all you good republicans.
Who knows if we will be able to bring this country back from the edge. I can only hope so.
When the subject turned to Mr. Wilson, Mr. Libby requested that he be identified only as a "former Hill staffer." I agreed to the new ground rules because I knew that Mr. Libby had once worked on Capitol Hill.
This is bullshit.
Mr. Libby requested that he be identified only as a "former attendee of a Bruce Springsteen concert." I agreed to the new ground rules because I knew Mr. Libby had once seen the Boss.
ey could get a 25th Stanley Cup for the anniversary? It would be brilliant!
Plum P
hey a canadian cup winner can't hurt
Hmmm.
Sports thread.
Go Ducks. I lived in Eugene for 4 years.
USC just beat the Irish. Yum.
Go White Socks.
'a former male prostiute turned fake reporter'
Wonder if Patterson and Ruppert have seen this.
Anti-Nazi Crowd Stops Nazi March in Ohio
Go White Socks.
Cleveland Bob
it's your birthdaY!
Once you assume there are only two sides,
you've already lost half the battle.
How many other sides are there when it comes to waging war?
Mr. Libby requested that he be identified only as a "former attendee of a Bruce Springsteen concert." I agreed to the new ground rules because I knew Mr. Libby had once seen the Boss.
Not even a good comparison, as it would be merely useless rather than actively misleading.
The fact that Miller isn't just humilliated by her WMD performance and still used Chalabi for a source and doesn't feel betrayed by Libby, can only mean one thing.
She does not care what the truth is.
She's a willing participant in disinformation/propaganda with the usual justification of a higher purpose.
In other words, she's part of an effort that is more (or less) than just being a good reporter and actually makes it irrelavant.
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agave | Email | 10.15.05 - 8:01 pm | #
A-yep. She's fucking zampolit: A political officer whose job it is to ensure that the entity in which she's embedded -- in this case, the NYT -- hews to the BushCo line where it counts. And nowhere has it counted more than in the runup to invading Iraq.
Speaking of zampolit:
">BushCo hacks faked up a Commerce Department report on manufacturing
They lie about everything. EVERYTHING.
Actually Eli, your Rangers are having a good start of the season so far! Congradulations! (I always had a lot of respect for the Islanders but them fucking Rangers...grrrrr)
I checked Rev. Moon's paper: zip.
They're ignoring the Miller/Plamegate article.
I guess the WH is slow on issuing talking points since its Saturday.
Peance and Freance
.
Oh, and go Habs!
Folks, there's tasty JFM/NYT sprack over in the comments at FDL.
So....
Did Toby get banned today?
I sure hope so.
Gravatar Actually Eli, your Rangers are having a good start of the season so far! Congradulations! (I always had a lot of respect for the Islanders but them fucking Rangers...grrrrr)
Yippee. I have a hard time getting excited by either of Dolan's teams. The man makes Steinbrenner look like Robert Kraft...
Check Pat Quinn's eyes! The racoon look suits him well (he's the Maple Leafs coach for you who don't give a damn about hockey)
Say what you will about Cindy Sheehan, one thing is for sure.
She is hideously ugly.
Did Toby get banned today?
I sure hope so.
Atrios did kinda make it sound that way, didn't he...
Did Toby get banned today?
An early Christmas gift from Atrios???
Wonder if Rove asked to be identified as a "former George HW Bush administration offical"?
"According to Bill and Hillary Clinton..."
The NY Times should just start attributing every quote to "former fetus so-and-so."
It would save everyone a lot of trouble.
I guess the WH is slow on issuing talking points since its Saturday.
Dartanyon
and Ksrl is occupied and Kennny boy mehlman hasn't come back from CROBAR
The Commerce Department has responded to a half-year-old request by Manufacturing and Technology News for the release a long-awaited study on the issue of "offshore outsourcing" of IT service-sector jobs and high-tech industries. But the 12-page document represented by the agency as its final report is not what was written by its analysts. Rather, it was crafted by political appointees at Commerce and at the White House, according to those familiar with it.
At an estimated cost of $335,000 -- or $28,000 per page -- the document MTN received from the Commerce Department's Technology Administration contains no original research and forsakes its initial intent of providing a balanced view of outsourcing, according to those inside and outside the agency.
Is that what JFM was working on in the joint?
"But I said I assumed Mr. Libby did not want the White House to be seen as attacking Mr. Wilson."
ho, ho. She just said that "atrios" is a wanker.
Did Toby get banned today?
didn't he announced a few days ago he was going on a vacation?
's the Maple Leafs coach for you who don't give a damn about hockey)
Plum P |
was he in a bar fight?
I saw an intereview on TSN and wondered what the hell happened
Did Toby get banned today?
It was around here earlier today. It may still be here.
ho, ho. She just said that "atrios" is a wanker.
hat
and hat is a douchebagg
it's your birthdaY!
olexicon, Big Poppa Smurf
============================
No it's not. It's my pal, Jim Reed's b-day, today though. He's from Youngstown.
BTW: Metric is a terrific Canadian band.
Atrios did kinda make it sound that way, didn't he...
It seemed that way to me....
toby can go find another streetcorner to preach on
Atrios | Homepage | 10.15.05 - 2:21 pm | #
I hope Simels is gonna be OK.
BTW: Metric is a terrific Canadian band.
Cleveland Bob
indeedy
as are arcade fire and the new pornographer
I like mer's nick.
It's almost like a kitties purr if you say it low and slow.
Comforting.
(ooooooommmmm)
(mmmmmerrrrrr)
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IF THIS WAS RUSSIA JUDY WOULD BE WORKING FOR PRAVDA.
What do you mean, 'if'?
You'd think that security guards in a zombie research facility would be briefed about the whole shoot-'em-in-the-head thing...
Who plays the chimp?
Well I just coughed up a really sticky kind'a greenish ball of phlegm, will that do?
Rice Fails to Persuade Russia to Support U.N. Action on Iran
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By JOEL BRINKLEY
Published: October 16, 2005
MOSCOW, Oct. 15 - Russia's leaders told Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on Saturday that they did not support sending the issue of Iran's nuclear program to the United Nations Security Council, and they reaffirmed their view that Iran had the legal right to enrich uranium.
The statements, by Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and others, were a sharp setback for Ms. Rice's efforts to reach a consensus on Iran's nuclear program. The Iranians "have this right" to enrich uranium under the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, Mr. Lavrov said at joint news conference with Ms. Rice, who flew here on short notice for consultations on Iran and other issues before heading to London.
america
home of the bad diplomats
Rod Steiger *is* Viceroy HAL.
Oh, man. If only. Can we reanimate his corpse?
I think Cam'ron would make a better diplomat
Atrios did kinda make it sound that way, didn't he...
It seemed that way to me....
toby can go find another streetcorner to preach on
Atrios | Homepage | 10.15.05 - 2:21 pm | #
This is dreadful news. I can only hope I don't inherit Tobes from Atrios like I did Charlie from Drum. That would finally drive me to de-list Eschaton from my blogroll.
I like trollboy's response:
Atrios, I don't know who these people are who keep quoting me, but it's not me behind it.
Sorry.
Toby Petzold | Email | Homepage | 10.15.05 - 2:24 pm | #