I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

First?


GravatarPrussian Blue, heard that earlier this morning. Hmmm?


GravatarPrussian blue, titanium white, cadmium yellow...

I miss Bob Ross.


GravatarOh right, read the article. Isn't it great that we are a land of free speech? Go NAZIS!

NTodd's going to be happy, happy, joy, joy dancing.


Gravatarmer--and it's great fun when NTodd does the happy happy joy joy dance.

I'd feel as if we're in the age of Ren and Stimpy, except that Ren and Stimpy made me laugh.


GravatarIsn't this a pretty disturbing form of child abuse?


GravatarThis makes my stomach take a strong lurch, and after last nite's martini's that's almost fatal....


GravatarBakersfield. That explains a lot.


GravatarHeh, the good folks at tribalwar.com invaded their forum the other day...it involved about 1000 bannings and a lot of inter-racial gay porn. Gotta love Tdub.


GravatarThey deserve a damn good spanking.


GravatarThere goes my appetite . . .


GravatarRead that over at NTodd's earlier.

These girls will be knocked up and living in double-wides in 3 years, the latest.


GravatarThe hitler-smiley-face T-shirts were a nice feature, too. Betcha Hot Topic will sell a mil.


GravatarCole the Younger--I think it is. But that's me.

Bakersfield is 100 miles and a planet away from Los Angeles. Really weird shit happens in CA once you're outside of the metro areas.


GravatarJunior League material?


GravatarHate Skanks Uber Alles.


GravatarWe're the whitetrashiest!


GravatarWhen these kids hit their teens, they won't be able to get the heroin into their arms fast enough, after what their parents have done to them.


GravatarWow. It is amazing how some parents can take their fucked-up view and poison a young mind, or in this case, two. I am curious if they eat more than white meat chicken with mayonnaise on wonder bread, or if the girls own any of the larger sets of crayons, you know with more colors....
What is the possibility that their upbringing meets the requirements for child abuse? I am white, I live in a mostly white area, and I think of myself as open minded about race issues, but this just seems sick to me.


GravatarWatertiger--each with three kids, all by different fathers.


GravatarThey deserve a damn good spanking.

And I'm just the man for the job. Those two budding teen-Nazis are adorable!


GravatarLab Coat Larry--it's good to see you here on weekends.

I think they should devise a new game, 'Lab Coat Larry,' as a counterpart to 'Leisure Suit Larry.'


Gravatar'We want to keep on being white.'

O-kay. Stay out of the sun, use a decent SPF block, wear mittens. That should do it. Maybe learn about genetics and how someone already born can't um, morph....


GravatarWho needs PGE when you got WhitePower?


GravatarGets your whites whiter!

E-fuckin'-gad.
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Gravatar I am curious if they eat more than white meat chicken with mayonnaise on wonder bread...


Translation: I have no black friends.


Gravatarthis has to be a piss take - hitler smiley faces?

come on guys someones having you on.

- aren't they?


GravatarMaybe learn about genetics and how someone already born can't um, morph....

ID obviously doesn't address that lesson.


GravatarAuntie GWPDA--I submitted my shopping list down in the basement, but could you toss in some TP and a filter for a Dirt Devil Jaguar?


GravatarI want to keep on being white, too! Any chance L & L have undescended testicles I could suckle?


GravatarI'm thinking the only hope for the future of this country is that most of the wingnuts' kids will grow up to hate their parents.


GravatarLederhosen!


GravatarJeffraham--if they just used Tide, they'd solve that problem.


GravatarBut is it art?

Perhaps they should be guests on the Daily Show.
Better, Daily Show correspondents!


Gravatar this has to be a piss take - hitler smiley faces?

come on guys someones having you on.

- aren't they?

British Alcoholic

No, they're perfectly serious.

Welcome to George W. Bush's Ameruhkuh.


GravatarLederhosen!
"Lederhosen which means “leather pants” was traditional German dress for men and boys"

Kinky!


GravatarJeffraham--sorry, make that Tide with Bleach!


GravatarI like how they're already positioning the "pre-teen Nazi incest lesbo" marketing angle, too. Such a wide target market for enough of the buzzwords that many may overlook the uglier ones.

Look for their CDs at a NASCAR track near you!
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GravatarRiesz--nonurban CA has always been like this. The problem is that the Bush Regime has made it fashionable.


GravatarI know this isn't the most important question, but the band geek in me needs to know, how can something with that many words be sung to music? What kind of time signature does it have, anyway?


GravatarGaaaaah!

They oughtta lock those kids' parents up for that shit.

This will probably take care of itself, though. In another ten years these girls will no doubt hate their parents and be either revolutionary communist punk rockers or cokehead twin pornstars doing the "big black dick" genre. Or both.


GravatarJeffraham--one would think you have peered into the miswired brains of the advertising industry...


GravatarYou crazy crackers have all the fun: Joe Scarborough (dead girl in locked office), George Bush (where do we even begin with this one), the Clenis (extra-marital affair and still 60% popularity), and now the Prussian Blue-Aryan Twins (no matter the Prussians get their asses handed to them every 40 years or so-but they make a helluva car). Just do whatever the hell you want no matter what the consequences. I love it! I am so coming back white.


GravatarAre you fucking kidding me?

Little twin Nazis?

Lovely country we live in, eh?


Gravatarlavalamp:
3/4 time, you swine!


GravatarOh sure, link to Ntodd and not to me, Atrios.....


GravatarI once blew a Prussian. Then, he had to go in from recess


Gravatar"I'm thinking the only hope for the future of this country is that most of the wingnuts' kids will grow up to hate their parents."
--The Papal Bull


That's what I was thinking. But, then again, if they make lots of money, maybe they'll carry on the tradition.


GravatarI wonder if that's why they don't believe in evolution, cuz natural selection would turn us all black, since dark skin gives people such an advantage over light skin. Makes sense to me!


GravatarNYMary--you realize NTodd is going to be unbearable the entire day, don't you?


Gravatar"We're proud of being white, we want to keep being white," said Lynx. "We want our people to stay white … we don't want to just be, you know, a big muddle. We just want to preserve our race."

I don't foresee that being a problem for these two. There's a double-wide just waiting for these two and the Aryan "men" they marry.


GravatarNYMary--you realize NTodd is going to be unbearable the entire day, don't you?

I'm glad I'm not going to be around all that much.


GravatarThey are going to be hot little Nazi chicks, who will end up rebelling and going down on Snoop Dog. but I digress:

OT-The White House has begun making contingency plans for the withdrawal of Harriet Miers as President Bush's choice to fill a seat on the Supreme Court, conservative sources said yesterday. "White House senior staff are starting to ask outside people, saying, 'We're not discussing pulling out her nomination, but if we were to, do you have any advice as to how we should do it?' "a Conservative Republican with ties to the White House told The Washington Times.

The White House denied making such calls. "Absolutely not true," White House spokesman Trent Duffy said.

But the conservative political consultant said that he had received such a query from Sara Taylor, director of the Office of White House Political Affairs.

Miss Taylor denied making any such calls.


Gravatarwatertiger--damn, and if anyone could keep him in line, it's you.


GravatarI would say this is disturbing, but that hardly seems adequate

(Hitler Smiley Faces? -- WTF?)


GravatarI would say this is disturbing, but that hardly seems adequate

(Hitler Smiley Faces? -- WTF?)


GravatarLynx, Lamb and April. What more needs to be said?


GravatarSallyh: Jeffraham--one would think you have peered into the miswired brains of the advertising industry...

No, but I've worked closely with enough marketing types. In public, if my skin starts to crawl for no apparet reason, I know a marketing type is no more than a few meters away.
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Gravataractually the mom said bakersfield is too cosmopolitan for them and wants to find an all-white community in the northwest.

crap. they could end up near me.


GravatarLederhosen!
".....Kinky!



Man, you obviously ain't never seen a pair of lederhosen. They're about as dorky as it gets. I oughtta know, having been made to wear them as a child on several occasions.


Gravatarmer, I've got your envelopes on the list. Sallyh, you can pick up all the other stuff in about an hour or so.

And btw, Bakersfield has some of the finest Basque restaurants you'll ever find. Really! Heavy on the mutton and lamby specialties, but still....


Gravatarno matter the Prussians get their asses handed to them every 40 years or so

FTR Prussia no longer exists. It's spread out across Poland, Russia and Lithuania.
just sayin'
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GravatarSallyh: Riesz--nonurban CA has always been like this. The problem is that the Bush Regime has made it fashionable.

Yeah, I agree (although I don't pretend to understand CA).

I'm just trying to help our friends from overseas to understand Ameruhkuh. We Americans aren't suprised that those girls wearing Hitler-smiley face tee shirts are serious. It's not a parody!


GravatarJeffraham--funny, Monsieur says he recognizes their foul stench at 100 paces.


GravatarLamb must be the one that's smilin'. There's nothing funny about this riding crop, young lady.


GravatarAuntie GWPDA--it's true, there are Basque shepherds in that area. However, there's a lot of white trash to go with it.


Gravatarwatertiger--damn, and if anyone could keep him in line, it's you.

I'll do what I can, darls.


Gravatar In other words, democracy is nice — eventually — but the bigger issue is kicking over the status quo in the Middle East and forcing change. And the hawks would argue that this is happening. Slowly and fitfully, to be sure, but let's count up the successes so far: Iraq and Afghanistan are better off than before, Libya has given up its nuke program, Lebanon's Cedar Revolution is a sign of progress, Egypt has held a more open election than any before it, and the Syrian regime is under considerable pressure.

Did the invasion of Iraq precipitate these changes? I think the hawks considerably overstate their case, but at the same time they do have a case. Even if Iraq is a mess, it might all be worthwhile if it eventually produces progress toward a more open, more liberal Middle East. At the very least, it's an argument that needs to be engaged.
--Kevin Drum


Gravatar"Prussian Blue supporter Erich Gliebe, operator of one of the nation's most notorious hate music labels, Resistance Records, hopes younger performers like Lynx and Lamb will help expand the base of the White Nationalist cause."

I guess they can write off attending Princeton and Harvard, thought Bob Jones U might be a longshot.


GravatarLynx, you be on the supreme court, and I'll replace that J.O.O. on the Federal Reserve.

But Lamb, they all are J.O.O.s on the Federal Reserve.


Gravatar...Bakersfield, that explains a lot.
Bakersfield California, probably the most red area of the entire state of California. A prime example of urban sprawl anywhere, I think they have something like 9 zip codes. Realizing how Republican the whole area is, reminds me of how earth would look if the Republicans had their way with no impedments- I'm thinking of the movie Dune, and the planet Geidi Prime. The perfect world for Republicans.....


GravatarGWPDA, Thanks, it's chilly, windy and dreary here, and I didn't feel like driving all the way to Target today.


Gravataror if the girls own any of the larger sets of crayons, you know with more colors....

The little boy went first day of school
He got some crayons and started to draw
He put colors all over the paper
For colors was what he saw
And the teacher said.. What you doin' young man
I'm paintin' flowers he said
She said... It's not the time for art young man
And anyway flowers are green and red
There's a time for everything young man
And a way it should be done
You've got to show concern for everyone else
For you're not the only one

And she said...
Flowers are red young man
Green leaves are green
There's no need to see flowers any other way
Than they way they always have been seen

But the little boy said...
There are so many colors in the rainbow
So many colors in the morning sun
So many colors in the flower and I see every one

Well the teacher said.. You're sassy
There's ways that things should be
And you'll paint flowers the way they are
So repeat after me.....

And she said...
Flowers are red young man
Green leaves are green
There's no need to see flowers any other way
Than they way they always have been seen

But the little boy said...
There are so many colors in the rainbow
So many colors in the morning sun
So many colors in the flower and I see every one

The teacher put him in a corner
She said.. It's for your own good..
And you won't come out 'til you get it right
And are responding like you should
Well finally he got lonely
Frightened thoughts filled his head
And he went up to the teacher
And this is what he said.. and he said

Flowers are red, green leaves are green
There's no need to see flowers any other way
Than the way they always have been seen

Time went by like it always does
And they moved to another town
And the little boy went to another school
And this is what he found
The teacher there was smilin'
She said...Painting should be fun
And there are so many colors in a flower
So let's use every one

But that little boy painted flowers
In neat rows of green and red
And when the teacher asked him why
This is what he said.. and he said

Flowers are red, green leaves are green
There's no need to see flowers any other way
Than the way they always have been seen.


GravatarI bet Mommy Nazi finds a place on Olbermann's Worst Person In the World list.


GravatarAll they need are law degrees to be received on Chris Mathews's show.


GravatarAll they need are law degrees to be received on Chris Mathews's show.


Gravatarfucking amazing!!!

My father was a Waffen SS man during WWII and he came from Prussia - halfway between Danzig and Koenigsburg. He wasn't much of a Nazi though, just wanted to be patriotic. He wanted to follow the military tradition of his family, and was not involved in any atrocities whatsoever. Neither was his unit.

His partner after the war was Jewish, and his partner's family had been wiped out by the Nazis during the war.
My father taught us never to look down on anyone, and we were the only family on the block who played with the black kids.

So, talking as a real Prussian, with a real Prussian name let me just say: these people are fucking stupid and I volunteer to go kick their white asses back to the trailer park they crawled out of.


GravatarSo, who has the power to stop whites from being white or currupt the morals of young christian extremists? Who is the boogey man?


Gravatar(Hitler Smiley Faces? -- WTF?)
Prior Aelred


Boggles what's left of the mind, innit?

Ok, Batties, here's what is driving me crazy because I want to know why: Fitzgerald's office is in the Dept. of Counterespionage. I really really want to know.


GravatarBakersfield



In 1949, future president George Bush and George W. Bush lived in Bakersfield, on Monterrey Street just west of Mount Vernon.


Bakersfield has a large Basque population in and around the city and most of Bakersfield's oldest and most historic restaurants are Basque and a noticeable portion of the population have Basque ancestry.

As with many cities in the Central Valley of California, many Bakersfield residents have ancestors who migrated to the area from the Great Plains during the Dust Bowl. In John Steinbeck's historical novel The Grapes of Wrath, Bakersfield is one of the locations that the protagonists pass through. Jack Kerouac's On the Road deals with the conditions of migrant workers in this part of California on a later date.

In the 1950s, local country musicians such as Buck Owens, Merle Haggard and Wynn Stewart helped invent a rock and roll-influenced country music style called the Bakersfield sound. Their influence was so great that Bakersfield is second only to Nashville, Tennessee, in country music fame. Bakersfield continues to produce famous country music artists such as Gary Allan.

Despite its country music fame, Bakersfield has also turned out its fair share of hard rock, most notably KoЯn and Adema.


GravatarI concur with British alcoholic above. Just can't be.
Should sign myself Canadian alcoholic.


GravatarI listened to one of their songs, "Skinhead Boy." They're terrible singers, just awful.

You'd think that the Neo-Nazis could drum up something better than this. The only attraction is that they're 13 YO blonde hair blue eyed girls. The singing is merely incidental.

They were on ABC's Primetime on Thursday night.


GravatarThat's some fucked up parenting...


GravatarThis kind of nonsense: "I want to stay white - I don't want the country to be a big muddle."

Listen, Prussian Blue: Here is a wonderful family with at least one marriageable son.

Lovely Christian Family

You can join the Keep America White Movement

But you'll have to dress like this.

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GravatarSomeone needs to remind these morons that we're all decended from one woman back in Africa hundreds of generations ago, and she was black! So we're all black and all distantly related to one another.


GravatarSallyh: Jeffraham--funny, Monsieur says he recognizes their foul stench at 100 paces.

Yeah. If you build web sites for big-ass companies, you will get cozier with them than you'd like. Sadly, I've come to realize that in a land with so much disposable income, they truly are a necessary evil. Without them (and their 90% stupid idea rate), our economy would completely collapse.

I just can't deal with the low bar they tend to set for ethical behavior.
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GravatarI wear lederhosen with my cowboy hat and lil boots!


GravatarThat is bizarre. The mother doesn't even live with the father, yet she's bringing her daughters up on hatred. She needs a clue...or two.


GravatarBased on the history and white-male entitlement attitudes of the Klan and white supremacists, I'm wiling to bet money that these two have already been sexually abused by their father or a close male relative, and will likely continue to suffer sexual abuse throughout their careers at the hands of their managers and "fans".

Everything about this story is utterly horrifying.


GravatarIf Lynch and Lem were boys, I'd so hit that!


GravatarI wonder if that's why they don't believe in evolution, cuz natural selection would turn us all black,

Not the point of your post, I know, but the answer to that one is easy. Near the equator, where the sunlight is very intense, protection from UV is the most important issue, so people make lots of melanin in their skin to block it out.

Further from the equator, where the sunlight is quite a bit less intense, people with too much melanin in their skin cannot absorb enough UV from the sun to make sufficient vitamin D, which requires sunlight for its biosynthesis. Hence the loss of pignemtation at high latitudes. The rule holds pretty true for any population that has been indigenous to an area for several thusand years or more. For example, the dravidians of Tamil-Nadu in southern India are as dark as most Africans, and yet are caucasians from a genetic standpoint. Similarly the !kung of souther Africa have a skin tone that is typical of middle-easterners.


GravatarIs this the new stradegy of distraction
in fighting between the poor. Are they looking for some new race riots to keep
people's eyes off the ball? Republicans have used this in the past. In fact Melman of RNC apologised for it to the black community (see: southern stradegy
). Looks like ther will alway be pawns in their game.


GravatarJeffraham--Mikey says hi. I gave him an extra ear skritch for you.


GravatarI feel sorry for those kids, I watch a report on them this week and was astounded by it all.

Their options are limited severely at this point. Either they will face a huge and tragic adjustment when they are old enough to be in the real world or they will be stuck in whatever locality they are going to to maintain the purity of their isolation. If they make the leap and understand what they have been feed is pure garbage, they are going to have to contend with that for life.

The parent is an abuser as far as I am concerned. Heck the whole community that is proctoring them down this merry little nasty path are to blame as well.


GravatarAryan

Because of historical racist use of Aryan, and especially use of Aryan race in connection with the myths and propaganda of Nazism, the word is sometimes avoided as being tainted. Similarly to the swastika symbol, which, having been found in ancient Iranian archeological sites, was chosen by Hitler for its perceived Aryan significance.

As a linguistic technical term, Aryan is in continued use without any ideological implication.


They should mullah over that.


GravatarThe article just refers to Aryan eye color as the inspiration for the group name. But that's not it -- Prussian Blue is also a chemical byproduct found in the Nazi gas chambers.


GravatarI guess the Godwin Rule is suspended on this thread.


GravatarThey are SO going to be doing big black dick/bukakke porn by the end of the decade!

Or smack.

Likely both.


Gravatar I listened to one of their songs, "Skinhead Boy." They're terrible singers, just awful.


Well, at least we don't have to be sad for them because they had real talent and their careers were nipped in the bud by this shit....


GravatarEven in these dark hours there are things that cheer me up! I must say they could use some professional advice, however. Americans may be racist but in general they don't like to admit it since they know deep down that it is wrong. That is why code words are so useful. Because it is also very, very easy for average Americans to fool themselves.

They need to add some code words and have a more positive message. Admittedly that isn't easy, but if the GOP can do it, so can they!


GravatarGodwin's Rule was suspended in 2000. All comments referring to Nazi's and Neo-cons are acceptable. The front office will send a memo when Godwin's Rule is back in effect.


GravatarI would imagine these girls are against the War in Iraq. Just saying..

As for abuse.. teaching kids something idiotic and incorrect shouldn't be illegal. But I would expect the left go start creating limits on what parents can teach their children.

Today, it's Nazism
Tomorrow, it's Conservatism
And after that, it's Christianity


Gravatarmy apologies for the double post.


Gravatarmy apologies for the double post.


GravatarRuppertia is a member of the Pea Brain family.

Kingdom Plantae – Plants
Subkingdom Tracheobionta – Vascular plants
Superdivision Spermatophyta – Seed plants
Division Magnoliophyta – Flowering plants
Class Magnoliopsida – Dicotyledons
Subclass Rosidae –
Order Fabales –
Family Fabaceae – Pea family
Genus Rupertia J. Grimes – rupertia
Species Rupertia physodes (Dougl. ex Hook.) J. Grimes – forest scurfpea


GravatarGary Ruppert

You are a frickin idiot. I am sure no one has told you that here before.


GravatarYessir, ya can't beat them Repug family values!


http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/...=1231684& page=1


GravatarSallyh: Jeffraham--Mikey says hi. I gave him an extra ear skritch for you.

Curly's brother from another mother?

We gotta get you into catbloggin'.
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GravatarAt least there's no chance of these girls ever being in one of my classes.


GravatarCertain people should NOT be permitted to breed.

Their mother springs to mind.

Lamb and Lynx..............leaping lesbian lizards!


Gravatar-Big Government Spending on social programs
-Telling people what they have to do
-Controlling all education
-Taking guns

All characteristics of the Nazi Party and the current Democratic Party


GravatarAryan ...They should mullah over that.


There's probably a couple of billion Aryans in this world, and the vast majority of them, living in northern India and Pakistan, have swarthy skin and brown eyes. They are the seed group for all of the Indo-European languages.


GravatarSometimes it's hard to believe we are in the 21rst century when I see things like this.


GravatarIf the mother of these girls wants to ruin them for life, so be it.

This is America, and I'm not a big proponent of the law interfering between parents and children just because they have an objectionable ideology.

So, Ruprecht, as far as I'm concerned, there is no basis to stop these parents. But you should be careful what you advocate - these girls are going to die of shame eventually when they fully realize how they've been used and abused.


GravatarSpringtime For Hitler!

CHORUS:
Germany was having trouble
What a sad, sad story
Needed a new leader to restore
Its former glory
Where, oh, where was he?
Where could that man be?
We looked around and then we found
The man for you and me
LEAD TENOR STORMTROOPER:
And now it's...
Springtime for Hitler and Germany
Deutschland is happy and gay!
We're marching to a faster pace
Look out, here comes the master race!
Springtime for Hitler and Germany
Rhineland's a fine land once more!
Springtime for Hitler and Germany
Watch out, Europe
We're going on tour!
Springtime for Hitler and Germany...
CHORUS:
Look, it's springtime
LEAD TENOR STORMTROOPER:
Winter for Poland and France
CHORUS AND STORMTROOPER:
Springtime for Hitler and Germany!
CHORUS:
Springtime! Springtime!
Springtime! Springtime!
Springtime! Springtime!
Springtime! Springtime!
STORMTROOPER:
Come on, Germans
Go into your dance!
STORMTROOPER "ROLF":
I was born in Dusseldorf und that is why they call me Rolf.
STORMTROOPER "MEL":
Don't be stupid, be a smarty, come and join the Nazi party!
ULLA:
The Fuhrer is coming, the Fuhrer is coming, the Fuhrer is coming!
STORMTROOPER #1:
Heil Hitler!
STORMTROOPER #2:
Heil Hitler!
LEAD TENOR STORMTROOPER:
Heil Hitler!
Springtime for Hitler and Germany
ALL:
Heil Hitler!
ROGER:
Heil myself
Heil to me
I'm the kraut
Who's out to change our history
Heil myself
Raise your hand
There's no greater
Dictator in the land!
Everything I do, I do for you!
CHORUS:
Yes, you do!
ROGER:
If you're looking for a war, here's World War Two!
Heil myself
Raise your beer
CHORUS:
Jawohl!
ROGER:
Ev'ry hotsy-totsy Nazi stand and cheer
CHORUS:
Hooray!
Ev'ry hotsy-totsy Nazi...
ROGER:
Heil myself!
CHORUS:
Ev'ry hotsy-totsy Nazi...
ROGER:
Heil myself!
CHORUS:
Ev'ry hotsy-totsy Nazi...
ROGER:
...stand and cheer!
THE HEIL-LOs:
The Fuhrer is causing a furor!
He's got those Russians on the run
You gotta love that wacky hun!
The Fuhrer is causing a furor
They can't say "no" to his demands
They're freaking out in foreign lands
He's got the whole world in his hands
The Fuhrer is causing a furor!
ROGER:
I was just a paper hanger
No one more obscurer
Got a phone call from the Reichstag
Told me I was Fuhrer
Germany was blue
What, oh, what to do?
Hitched up my pants
And conquered France
Now Deutschland's smiling through!
But it wasn't always so easy...
It was 1932. Hindenburg was working the Big Room and I...
I was playing the lounge. And then I got my big break.
Somebody burned down the Reichstag. And, would you believe it?
They made me Chancellor. Chancellor!
It ain't no myst'ry
If it's politics or hist'ry
The thing you gotta know is
Ev'rything is show biz
Heil myself
Watch my show
I'm the German Ethel Merman
Dontcha know
We are crossing borders
The new world order is here
Make a great big smile
Ev'ryone sieg heil to me
Wonderful me!
And now it's.


GravatarCHORUS:
Springtime for Hitler and Germany
Goose-step's the new step today


ROGER:
Springtime!
Goose-steps!
CHORUS MEN:
Bombs falling from the skies again
CHORUS:
Deutschland is on the rise again
ROGER & CHORUS:
Springtime for Hitler and Germany
U-boats are sailing once more
Springtime for Hitler and Germany
ROGER:
Means that...
CHORUS:
Soon we'll be going...
ROGER:
We've got to be going...
CHORUS:
You know we'll be going....
ROGER:
You bet we'll be going...
ROGER & CHORUS:
You know we'll be going to war!!


GravatarI saw part of the ABC story and I was torn between utter fury/nausea and ..of all things, laughing.

How pathetic are people who think their own race is so weak that merely being around black people will turn them into mush?

But it is child abuse - no doubt about it. But the mother of these children has a crazy Nazi-bastard old fart as a father. Questioning nonsensical ideas doesn't seem to run in the family.

And a note to the nationalistic Bush worshipers ..they're crazy for American flags, too.

The nice part that I saw - these clowns boxed up supplies "for white people only" and tried to hand them out in the areas hit by Katrina - maybe Mississippi. They had no takers and I saw one white woman shouting at them to take them Nazi crap and leave.

Thank God.


GravatarThey're either going to die of shame or become serial killers - and if that's what results, I suspect they'll kill their parents first.

I'm not kidding.


GravatarTena:
The DoJ Office of Counterespionage is in an extraordinarily secure area. Thus, no leaks.
The request for documents related to the Italian Niger forgeries, something the Office of Counterespionage might be investigating, is just a coincidence.
I'm sure.
I'd love to be an uninvolved guest at Camp David this weekend.


GravatarPea Brain, that's nice dear. Use a link next time, please.


Gravatarby the way, Prussian Blue, had nothing to do with gas chambers. It's a chemical agent used in pigmentation and in treating heavy metal intoxication.


GravatarIf the mother of these girls wants to ruin them for life, so be it.

Yes, true.

The same would go for a family of devout Stalinists or anything of that sort.

This is America, and I'm not a big proponent of the law interfering between parents and children just because they have an objectionable ideology.

Especially since the people who do the work in these situations have a very questionable record.

But you should be careful what you advocate - these girls are going to die of shame eventually when they fully realize how they've been used and abused.

Well, hopefully they'll see the light and start to follow the Lord Jesus Christ.

If you wanna get technical, millions of women are being used and manipulated for evil right now. Either by racists or pornographers.


GravatarI'd love to be an uninvolved guest at Camp David this weekend.

I'd love to be a fly for this one myself.

Thanks for the answer because it has been driving me crazy since the web site went up yesterday.


GravatarTrash just wants to have fu-un!

How much you wanna bet there's an "other brother Darrel" in that fambly somewheres...


GravatarAs for abuse.. teaching kids something idiotic and incorrect shouldn't be illegal. But I would expect the left go start creating limits on what parents can teach their children.

Ummm...well, I do believe that teaching hatred of others for not reason other than their skin color or ancestry is just a bit beyond "idiotic and incorrect" and actually is IMMORAL, as well as destabilizes the foundation of a strong multicultural democracy--but maybe that's just me.

On the second point of this being a "left" thing to do--Oh My God. You must be kidding. The christian right is ALL ABOUT fucking restricting people's rights to live lives in peace, free from interference and judgement from others (whether majority or some pathetic minority). You are either a dangerously ignorant fellow, or being intentionally disingenuous for some nefarious political/philosophical reason.


GravatarA South politician preaches to the poor white man,
"You got more than the blacks, don't complain.
You're better than them, you been born with white skin," they explain.
And the Negro's name
Is used it is plain
For the politician's gain
As he rises to fame
And the poor white remains
On the caboose of the train
But it ain't him to blame
He's only a pawn in their game.

The deputy sheriffs, the soldiers, the governors get paid,
And the marshals and cops get the same,
But the poor white man's used in the hands of them all like a tool.
He's taught in his school
From the start by the rule
That the laws are with him
To protect his white skin
To keep up his hate
So he never thinks straight
'Bout the shape that he's in
But it ain't him to blame
He's only a pawn in their game.
-Dylan


GravatarAnd those green teeth bleached out real good, too, di'n they?


GravatarGary Ruppert | Homepage | 10.22.05 - 12:57 pm | #


What an absolute asswipe!


GravatarI simply must repress the appalling urge to cultivate a taste for neo-Nazi incestuous pedophilia.

The girls and the Hitler smiley faces are abominably cute, it pains me to confess.

I think about how soccer moms and dads were (and maybe still are) freaked out by the Goth look which became moderately popular during the fin-de-sičcle; it was perceived as the ultimate in decadence, corruption, and incipient unreedeemed malificence. To some people, appearance is everything.

I wonder what they would make of the Aryan Nation Doublemint Twins?

That photo reminds me of another cute Hitler-related photo (scroll down).


GravatarPea Brain, that's nice dear. Use a link next time, please.
Dumass Libural


Links don't sing. What are you, a "conservative"? I don't tell you how to post, do I, dear?


GravatarI'd love to be an uninvolved guest at Camp David this weekend.

I'd love to be able to sell Rolaids and aspirin, etc. on the grounds.


GravatarOn the second point of this being a "left" thing to do--Oh My God. You must be kidding. The christian right is ALL ABOUT fucking restricting people's rights to live lives in peace, free from interference and judgement from others (whether majority or some pathetic minority). You are either a dangerously ignorant fellow, or being intentionally disingenuous for some nefarious political/philosophical reason.
cole the Younger


cole:

Ruppert is a pathetic loser looking for attention.


Gravatarwell, I do believe that teaching hatred of others for not reason other than their skin color or ancestry is just a bit beyond "idiotic and incorrect" and actually is IMMORAL

You really want to make immorality a basis to not teach something?

You better hope that standard doesn't get used by some "dangerous Right-winger" like me.


GravatarRuprecht - I suspect the girls and their parents already worship the Nazi Jesus you love so much, you and the rest of the radical religious right.


GravatarTena, most of the White Nationalists are odinists and all that. Look it up, they disdain Christianity too. Look up Matthew Hale and the World Church of the Creator, they're not Christians either.


GravatarHow much you wanna bet there's an "other brother Darrel" in that fambly somewheres...
Doozer


To whom they've already lost their virginity.

Just sayin'!


GravatarGary Ruppert

ENLIST!!!!!!


GravatarTo whom they've already lost their virginity.



GravatarYou better hope that standard doesn't get used by some "dangerous Right-winger" like me.
Gary Ruppert | Homepage | 10.22.05 - 1:09 pm | #


Seems like that's too fucking late, eh?

You and the fuck's like you have been allowed to gaine too much influence on this once great nation. Something must be done.

Ruppert is a pathetic loser looking for attention.
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat | Email | 10.22.05 - 1:08 pm | #


thanks, Terry. Understood.


GravatarTena, most of the White Nationalists are odinists and all that. Look it up, they disdain Christianity too. Look up Matthew Hale and the World Church of the Creator, they're not Christians either.
Gary Ruppert


Ruppert:

YOU have NO idea what you are TALKING about!

You NEVER do.


GravatarListening to a local call-in radio show yesterday addressing California ballot prop 73 which would require parental notification of a minor choosing to have an abortion, and which sneaks in a definition of "life beginning at conception" , most of the winger callers were mistakenly proclaiming that they didn't want "the government interfering in their family communications", not realizing that the law would put the government squarely into the middle of that same situation. To me the irony is that they are pushing for more government intervention.


GravatarThe genetists have proven we're just distantly related cousins from one black woman presumably is Africa...goes a long way toward explaining why we're so dysfunctional with each other.


GravatarYou better hope that standard doesn't get used by some "dangerous Right-winger" like me.
Gary Ruppert


Where the hell have YOU been?

The right has been doing that for years!


Gravatarthey're not Christians either.
Gary Ruppert | Homepage | 10.22.05 - 1:11 pm | #


I don't know what fucking country you've been living in the past 10-15 years, but I know PLENTY of people who call themselves Christians who are this fucked up. None of them follow Christ. All of them think they're Christians.

Wise up, dude. you are deluded if you think these people don't believe themselves True Christians and empowered to destroy all enemies, especially Americans.


GravatarCertain people should NOT be permitted to breed.

Yes, I believe that's what it says on their shirts, right there under the cute li'l SSmileyface...


GravatarMonica:

I would lump Clinton in with those "crackers" you name.

He's smarter than all of them put together.


GravatarI mean,

I would NOT lump Clinton in with them.



(Need caffeine!)


GravatarAt least Lamb and Lynx had a handy link to a Scottish website with tartan info. Who knew there are four variations on the Carnegie tartan?


Gravatarcole:

You have to excuse Ruppert and his ilk.

Their entire fantasy world is crumbling around their ears.

They will not and cannot admit that they have backed a loser.

Sooo, they will continue to defend the indefensible.

No matter how moronic they sound!


GravatarI'd love to be an uninvolved guest at Camp David this weekend.



Bush gonna git drunk and make Karl pray with him.


GravatarPrussian blue, titanium white, cadmium yellow...

Magic White. With the Almighty Brush..

Pity live isn't a canvas, or we could just paint over these li'l muppets...of DOOM!


Gravatar"I am a Christian" = (when proclaimed in a defensive manner) I am a racist.
"I am a Born-Again Christian" = (once again when spewed out in a defensive manner) I am a racist who thinks that my brand of religion is the only "true" religion, and everybody else is going to hell.
"Support the Troops" = (when proclaimed with a bumper sticker or yellow ribbon magnet) - I trust George W. Bush/ or George W. Bush is a great man.
It's all code words with most of the Rapture Right. You have to believe in a certain way, to be "like them". Yeech.


GravatarThanks, Terry. I appreciate the support and consoling words. My family has lived in the same southern town since at least 1789, had members serve in every branch of the military and fight in every war since the revolution, and included both Baptist and Methodist ministers. I, myself have served in both the Army and Air Force as an intelligence analyst. And these creeps like ruppert who seem to think it's a big joke to mock the downfall of America and the misery of regular people suffering under the predations of corporatists and cynical church conmen, just really pisses me off.


GravatarIf their records sell some music industry whore, possibly even of jewish heritage, will promote thier venom.


GravatarI really find this story sad.
The republicans tout that they are christians meanwhile they cut funding
for programs for the poor then point at black people as the source of their woes
and their education is so bad that they believe this.

ugly


GravatarLittle dead-thread fun...

Fun Hitler/Christianity quote:

(Disclaimer: I don't post this to cast aspersions on decent Christians, only to show that just because someone says they are Christian doesn't mean they aren't also batshit crazy -- yes, I'm looking at you, Dubya! But everyone here already knows that)

"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow my self to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows . For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people." –Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)


GravatarThe lowdown on Mama April Gaede:


GravatarToday, it's Nazism
Tomorrow, it's Conservatism
And after that, it's Christianity
Gary Ruppert

Excellent idea, Gary. Those are three evils the world can do without, and I'm glad you pointed them out.


GravatarThis is disgusting. Saw it earlier over at Pam's House Blend.


Gravatar Prussian blue, titanium white, cadmium yellow...

I miss Bob Ross.


You think the twins are happy little accidents?

Anyhoo, this story certainly has spiked my traffic (sorry NYMary, but maybe my link to you will help?). I just finished a podcast on immigration in this context (including the track 'Skindhead Boy'!)--uploading now, I'll whore it later.


GravatarPrussian Blue is also a chemical byproduct found in the Nazi gas chambers. -- tom

by the way, Prussian Blue, had nothing to do with gas chambers. -- really?

No, tom's right -- google on "Prussian blue" and "gas chambers". And there's a comment in one of their interviews: "There is also the discussion of the lack of "Prussian Blue" coloring (Zyklon B residue) in the so-called gas chambers in the concentration camps. We think it might make people question some of the inaccuracies of the "Holocaust" myth."


GravatarThe lowdown on Mama April Gaede:
Roadrage




ho ho ho


GravatarBet the little twits are homeschooled.


Gravatarcole:

You have a way with words.

I admire people who can speak eloquently.


GravatarIt's fortunate they don't have any talent to give them credibility.


GravatarTerry C - Ho ho ho is right. I wouldn't be one bit surprised to see that whore turn out those girls, too, the minute some Aryan leader says he wants them.

The woman is really fucked up.


GravatarAs for abuse.. teaching kids something idiotic and incorrect shouldn't be illegal. But I would expect the left go start creating limits on what parents can teach their children.

Today, it's Nazism
Tomorrow, it's Conservatism
And after that, it's Christianity.


Then people who say stupid things on message boards in order to annoy someone else.


Gravatar Bet the little twits are homeschooled.

Yep.

Want further chills? Got this from a quick Google search from the mom. apparently before she decided Bakersfield wasn't "white" enough .

AG: Yes. A few years ago I moved to Bakersfield, and we live in town now. I still have a horse, but I don't have facilities to do training. And I decided to put a lot more energy into my children, including their schooling. And I have a new baby; she's almost nine months old -- I'm just having a lot of fun with her.

Man.

I think I need a drink.


GravatarLMAO - http://prussianbluefan.blogspot.com/

Their definition of Prussian blue (at the bottom of the page) is ripped off, word for word, from wikipedia, sans credit, btw. I became suspicious of it because while reading it, I began to doubt that there are many white supremecist chemists who would have a fan blog that focuses on two underage girls... or maybe there are.


GravatarI thought Prussian Blue was a breed of cat. Grey and fluffy, kinda squashed face.

But I might just be dumb.


GravatarRock 'N Roll Reichstag

Well I don't care about history
Rock, rock, rock 'n roll Reichstag
'Cause that's not where I wanna be
Rock, rock, rock 'n roll Reichstag
I just wanna beat the blues
I just wanna get some jews
Rock, rock, rock, rock, rock 'n roll Reichstag

Well the Aryans out there knock us out, you know
Rock, rock, rock 'n roll Reichstag
Cruisin' around in our GTO
Rock, rock, rock 'n roll Reichstag
We hate other races and the ACLU
Don't wanna be 'round no foreign tools
Rock, rock, rock, rock, rock 'n roll Reichstag

Fun fun rock 'n roll Reichstag
Fun fun rock 'n roll Reichstag
Fun fun rock 'n roll Reichstag
Fun fun, oh baby


GravatarPeter Rios (and a bunch of others) pointed this out:

"Known as "Prussian Blue" — a nod to their German heritage and bright blue eyes"-

This is wrong. Entirely wrong. This is a reference to the death camps.

Check out this search page and you'll see what I mean.

The name is a winking reference to the murder of millions of Jews, homosexuals, Slavs, Jehova's Witnesses, dissidents etc. Even just casting this as white nationalism hides how goddamn sick this is.

Posted by: peter rios | Oct 22, 2005 1:43:06 PM


By the way: A number of Nazi fucks actually left comments over NTodd's thread on this. Of course, they didn't leave e-mail addies, but who wants to do a Google search of their online handles?


GravatarI think Mann Coulter's been putting his demon seed about...


Gravatar"white supremecist chemists who would have a fan blog that focuses on two underage girls..."

What balderdash! While true that German chemists were instructed by Adolf Hitler to find a stimulant that would help his soldiers to fight around the clock, it is a big lie that anyone is 'cooking up' ways to invade Bakersfield clubs with Hitler's drug to keep our national vanguard dancing, jacked for 30 hours and beyond...

Where the hell did I leave the pseudoephed?


Gravatari'd do 'em.


GravatarYeah, these girls and her mother are most certianly the easiest of pickings. The white racist is a well cultivated boogey man/faux pas within white america. Statistically if they were raised in a so called "liberal" environment they would still breed a gang of aryan kids...kids that would do the same. Peoples aversion to what these girls speak is on par with a gang of chicks clowning their girlfriend for rocking a played out/horrible outfit.


GravatarWe got to tell goddamn ABC news what the fuck Prussian fucking Blue really stands for. It is amazing that people think the whole thing cute -- what a difference 60 years can make.


GravatarTerry C - Ho ho ho is right. I wouldn't be one bit surprised to see that whore turn out those girls, too, the minute some Aryan leader says he wants them.

Tena |


AFTER mommy dearest's various boyfriends are done with them, that is.


GravatarThe white racist is a well cultivated boogey man/faux pas within white america.



You mean the TARGETS of the white racists are the well cultivated boogey men/faux pas within White America, don't you?


GravatarOh, yeah.

These two HAVE to be in need of "Uncle Dad" cards for Father's Day.


Gravatarjeez, even I'd heard of them (and seen their pictures) before ...

ugh.


GravatarMusic to goosestep by.


GravatarHoly fucking what the fuck.

I'm not entirely certain which is the worse crime -- spending that much energy to perpetuate a bankrupt and murderous state of consciousness, or "April"'s twisting the minds of two children like that.

BTW, "April" isn't a very aryan; neither is 'Lamb' or 'Lynx'. Sounds suspiciously Englisch or Afrikanner to me, Mein Frau -- Ihren Ausweis, bitte.


GravatarDaniel Radosh was onto these vixens about a year ago:

http://www.pandagon.net/ archives...lsen_twins.html


GravatarGreetings FROM Bakersfield, fellow Kossacks.

It's not ALL bad. Yeah, it's a pretty red area, but we're recovering.

Someone actually booked Prussian Blue at the annual County Fair this year, and you should've heard the outcry forcing them to back out.

Sure, we've got more than our share of skinheads and Klan, and local talk radio fawns all over Sean Hannity (literally--I this she's got a crush on him). And our Congressman _is_ Bill Thomas, he of the SocSec privatization...

BUT...

I tried Thursday night to attend a speech by Ambassador Joseph Wilson at the local CalState campus, and couldn't get near the place. 600 fans came out to hear him speak. Favorable press, too.

Prussian Blue is the extreme end of Bakersfield as well as America. And you're right about the Basque restaurants. Pass the pickled tongue!


GravatarForgive me, Atrios. Had two websites open at the same time. Bet you can't guess whose was in the other window, can you?


Gravatarokies fleeing the dust bowl migrated and settled in bakersfield, ca. infecting the state with their conservatism taint. please send them back from whence they came.


GravatarThose girls aren't fuggin' German, they're pure American Mutt.


(*whispers*

i have a pair of lederhosen)
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GravatarAs a person of real Prussian ancestry (parents born there) let me just say that I'll be suing for defamation on Monday.


GravatarWell, the silver lining is that they are tone-deaf and talentless.


Gravatartest...


GravatarTest again....


Gravatar okies fleeing the dust bowl migrated and settled in bakersfield, ca. infecting the state with their conservatism taint.

Actually, they settled all over and some of them ended up being quite progressive.

This is such classically liberal hypocrisy it almost reads like parody.


Gravataraddendum to previous post:

many of the Okies were also Native American.


GravatarThough it's far after the Nazism for atrociousness, the twins' names are an atrocity too.

I expect they will crash and burn. I would hate to live in an America in which they could somehow whitewash their Nazi past, get an education at a good Christian university, get law degrees and emerge as. . . . the Twin Ann Coulters!

Save us!


GravatarGuano
Prussian Blue is a breed of cat. We had one when I was a kid. Bandit. She was a very dark grey, almost black.


GravatarHere's a link to a black leader on C-Span calling for the extermination of all white people: http://finalsolution88.com/Video.../ MMMhater02.wmv

Please consider:

A) It's okay to wear a shirt that says "Black Pride", "Puerto-Rican Pride", "Gay Pride", etc. You can have any kind of pride it seems. Except for one. You cannot wear a shirt that says, "White Pride." Because that would make you a racist. If you're in high school or college, you can start a Black Heritage Club, a Puerto-Rican Heritage Club, a Gay and Lesbian Teen Alliance Club, almost any kind of club you like. Except for one. You cannot start a European Heritage Club. Because that would make you a racist.

B) Immigration is out of control in this country. White birth rates keep going down, while the birth rates of non-whites keep skyrocketing. It's estimated that by the year 2050, whites will be the minority.

C) Affirmative action gives people points on tests in all kinds of fields BEFORE they even take the test. If you are black, you get points for your skin color. White people lose jobs, even though they may be more qualified for the position.

D) Rap music is rampant in our culture now. Much of it espouses drug use, the degradation of women, gang affiliations and violence against white people. It's on the radio, in films, on TV, in cartoons, in advertising. Your kids hear it all the time. Many white teens think it's cool and try to imitate gang bangers. They are imitating people who are rapping about killing them.

These are just a FEW of the issues that White Nationalism concerns itself with. I do not hate anyone. I do not worship Hitler. I do not like the Swastika and what it stands for. I simply want my culture and my heritage to stop being degraded and destroyed. I want the world to stop implying that white people must feel guilty FOREVER for events that took place long before they were born. I want my children to grow up in a world where they can be as proud of their heritage as any non-white person can be.

Please realize that the White Nationalist movement is made up of all different kinds of people. Some of them do look at Hitler as a hero. Some of them want nothing to do with Hitler. But all of us have one thing in common: we are tired of being the scapegoats for every single problem found in non-white communities. We simply want the white and the non-white communities to live apart, so that each may accept responsibility for their own successes or failures.


GravatarAh, more nonsense trying to make excuses for racism.

Nice try. But I've heard all those "arguments" before.

If there are people who want to exclude themselves from American society, in an effort to convince themselves that they are somehow purely white, then they're welcome to it.

But America is a mixture of cultures, races, and perspectives. That's what a democracy is supposed to be, and that's what makes it work. If you want to take yourself out of it, that's fine, but don't expect anyone else to play along, or to treat you as anything less than a racist lunatic.


GravatarActually, they settled all over and some of them ended up being quite progressive.

This is such classically liberal hypocrisy it almost reads like parody.
mark | 10.23.05 - 12:30 am | #

addendum to previous post:

many of the Okies were also Native American.
mark


where's the hypocrisy? i'm supposed to write out the entire history of the dust bowl exodus with all of it's minutiae or else its incomplete? jesus.

is bakersfield conservative or not? and how did it get that way?


GravatarAh, more nonsense trying to make excuses for racism.

Nice try. But I've heard all those "arguments" before.

You call my words nonsense and say you've heard these arguments before, but you failed to address even one point that I made. Reread what I said and make an argument against some of my points. Calling something "nonsense" doesn't necessarily make it so - what are YOUR arguments?

But America is a mixture of cultures, races, and perspectives. That's what a democracy is supposed to be, and that's what makes it work. If you want to take yourself out of it, that's fine, but don't expect anyone else to play along, or to treat you as anything less than a racist lunatic.
Seraphiel | 10.23.05 - 1:50 am | #

I don't expect anyone else to play along unless they value their own culture, heritage and identity. If you don't, you are welcome to live among those who care as much for your heritage as you do. Isn't it funny how Black Pride is seen as desirable, while White Pride is seen as "racial lunacy"? It is a crime to be white, and even more of a crime to be proud of being white.


Gravatarsuepeace-

Race/ethnicity has always been used to divide this country.

The idea of who is "white" has not been a fixed thing as you may think but has changed over time.

Before WW11 Irish and Italians were NOT considered white.

And today many who are jewish consider themselves white.

meaning it is not a fixed definition but the term 'white' is used to separate people from who has acess to who has not.

so be happy that you have this acess and that your ethnic group has been included. To be proud may look like gloating.


Gravatar"April, a stay-at-home mom who no longer lives with the twins' father."


What does she live on, I wonder.

Welfare?


Gravatarsuepeace | 10.23.05 - 1:35 am | #


You MUST be a Republican.


GravatarI would hate to live in an America in which they could somehow whitewash their Nazi past, get an education at a good Christian university, get law degrees and emerge as. . . . the Twin Ann Coulters!

Save us!
sara


They're being homeschooled.

By a crazy, racist bitch who doesn't even have a job.

What college will they get into?

I don't think any of the college entrance exams tests on how badly you want to "stay white."


Gravatar"I would hate to stand before God on Judgment Day and have to answer why I rejected the children He had ordained for our family."





GravatarDaniel Radosh was onto these vixens about a year ago:

http://www.pandagon.net/ archives...lsen_twins.html
Hudson


The photos of the little kids in the "God Hates Fags" t-shirt are beyond disgusting.


Gravatar) Immigration is out of control in this country. White birth rates keep going down, while the birth rates of non-whites keep skyrocketing. It's estimated that by the year 2050, whites will be the minority.

And? Are you implying that this is a negative thing? Because if you are, it sort of undermines your whole "It's just about the heritage of being white"-thing...
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Gravatar"meaning it is not a fixed definition but the term 'white' is used to separate people from who has acess to who has not.

so be happy that you have this acess and that your ethnic group has been included. To be proud may look like gloating."

When I say white I mean of European descent. It matters not how the definition of white has changed. Today it means the people who are forbidden to have pride in their own heritage. Blacks, Hispanics, Jews and Asians are all encouraged to be prideful of their heritage. White people are taught to be ashamed of theirs.

I am not gloating, and I wish all peoples of all races to have access to whatever success they can bring for themselves. In the society we live in now, all races blame the white race for any and all ills that befall them. And it always amazes me that the same people who claim that whites have made their lives a living hell are so very opposed to living apart from whites and exercising some self-determination and responsibility. Are they afraid of failing and not being able to blame whites for the failure?

“You MUST be a Republican.”

Wrong. I have never voted Republican in my life. It’s easy to place people into neat little boxes when they talk about beliefs that are different from yours, isn’t it? I see very little difference between either major party.

Immigration is out of control in this country. White birth rates keep going down, while the birth rates of non-whites keep skyrocketing. It's estimated that by the year 2050, whites will be the minority.

”And? Are you implying that this is a negative thing? Because if you are, it sort of undermines your whole "It's just about the heritage of being white"-thing...”

I would say that YES, out of control immigration, especially the illegal immigration, is a negative thing for all of us. Or perhaps you are not concerned about employment rates or the cost of health insurance, things that are directly affected by the demands put on us by illegal immigrants.

And let’s follow this to its logical conclusion. In 2050, whites will be a minority. In the years following, if birth rate trends and immigration continue at their present level, there will be fewer and fewer whites in existence. It’s not beyond the realm of belief that whites will die out. Now just how can a people celebrate their culture and heritage when they don’t exist anymore? Or when their too busy trying to fight the forces that are driving them into non-existence? Genocide, which can occur in all different kinds of ways and at many levels, is always wrong. Somehow though, the world has made genocide a horrible thing for only non-white people. Whites are not to even consider their own race and what might be happening to it. We are supposed to pretend we don’t exist, until we don’t exist anymore. I love my children too much to watch their futures disappear before my eyes.


Gravatar so - what are YOUR arguments?

If you had bothered to read, you might have seen this:

But America is a mixture of cultures, races, and perspectives. That's what a democracy is supposed to be, and that's what makes it work. If you want to take yourself out of it, that's fine, but don't expect anyone else to play along, or to treat you as anything less than a racist lunatic.


GravatarIt's estimated that by the year 2050, whites will be the minority.

Perhaps a minority.

Which means, less than 50% of the population.

That's not really such a bad thing, is it? To have a more diverse and equal society, and perhaps even more balanced representation?

Incidentally, dividing people into "white and non-white" is an inherently racist thing to do. There are many different and separate cultures that aren't actually "white" and there's no reason, apart from a racist mindset, to group them together.


GravatarThis country was built on the graves of the native population.

So for someone to pretend that European culture has brought nothing to these shores but love and sunshine, and that they're just being brought low by the brown-skinned masses, is rather stunning.


GravatarIf you had bothered to read, you might have seen this:

But America is a mixture of cultures, races, and perspectives. That's what a democracy is supposed to be, and that's what makes it work. If you want to take yourself out of it, that's fine, but don't expect anyone else to play along, or to treat you as anything less than a racist lunatic.

If this is your definition of democracy "working", you can keep it. I don't have to worry about being alone in wanting to take myself out of it. The number of people who are waking up to these things grows daily. And our numbers will continue to grow as society leans more and more toward discrimination against whites and things become less and less tolerable. Also, many people are realizing that you don't have to be a Nazi or a skinhead or a member of the KKK to be concerned about what is happening. I for one want nothing to do with any of those groups or their ideologies.


Gravatar"It's estimated that by the year 2050, whites will be the minority.

Perhaps a minority.

Which means, less than 50% of the population.

That's not really such a bad thing, is it? To have a more diverse and equal society, and perhaps even more balanced representation?"

More equal for who? Diversity and multi-culturalism have meant nothing to white people except an extermination of their rights. Do you honestly think that when whites become a minority, affirmative action will apply to them? Do you think white children will benefit as a minority when gangster culture becomes the norm (and I'm not too sure that isn't happening right now.)

"Incidentally, dividing people into "white and non-white" is an inherently racist thing to do. There are many different and separate cultures that aren't actually "white" and there's no reason, apart from a racist mindset, to group them together."

Really? When black people express Black Pride, is that not dividing people into black and non-black? Is that an inherently racist thing to do? How about Puerto Rican Pride? Why the double standard? Why do you not call black people racists for expressing the same exact thing we want to express as white people? Do you see what I'm saying here? Is is OKAY for anyone else to divide themselves from others in racist terms - they are APPLAUDED for doing so. The only group it is NOT okay for is whites.


Gravatar"This country was built on the graves of the native population."

No one argues that. The people who did those things have been dead for a long, long time. And yet somehow white people are to feel guilty FOREVER for what people did 200 and more years ago. My little boy, as a white person, should be seen as GUILTY for what people did hundreds of years ago.

This country was also built on the graves of people who killed each other in their own wars. The country was built by people who were enslaved by whites, and sold into slavery by their own black kinfolk. There is war and death and injustice on all sides. But no one holds blacks accountable for what their ancestors did in terms of slave trading. Only whites are to be held accountable, for all eternity.

"So for someone to pretend that European culture has brought nothing to these shores but love and sunshine, and that they're just being brought low by the brown-skinned masses, is rather stunning."

No one has claimed here that European culture has brought nothing but love and sunshine. We have brought much misery and suffering. But MANY races have inflicted misery and suffering on others. The white people are the ONLY people who are expected to feel guilty without end. We are the only people who feel so guilty that we have allowed mass immigration into our countries, to our own disadvantage. Take a look at what's happening now in Great Britain.

Why is there no great mass of immigrants flowing into countries populated by non-whites? Why is there no worldwide criticism of countries who choose to keep their racial lines intact by essentially closing their borders to outsiders? Why aren't Chinese people criticized as being racist because they want to keep their country Chinese? Shouldn't diversity and multi-culturalism be good for everyone?

Here is a really excellent article that talks about white guilt. It's a bit lengthy, but really eye-opening if you can get through it.

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/ ...583#post2223583


GravatarDo you honestly think that when whites become a minority, affirmative action will apply to them?

Affirmative action shouldn't be necessary at that point, since college admissions in general should have evened out.

When black people express Black Pride, is that not dividing people into black and non-black?

I have not heard them put it in such terms. Even isolationists and racists in that culture are able to differentiate between themselves, and Europeans, and Latinos, and Asians. You seem to lack that ability.

Why aren't Chinese people criticized as being racist because they want to keep their country Chinese? Shouldn't diversity and multi-culturalism be good for everyone?

They are good for everyone, but the point is that the United States, in its history and politics, has chosen to be open to almost anyone who wants to come and make a life here. That is one of the things that makes it so uniquely appealing to so many people, and one of its greatest strengths. Now, this country hasn't always treated those immigrants very well, and there have been a great number of problems from that... But: the progress toward equality has helped to make this country as good as it is, and will continue to improve it, in spite of people like yourself.

It's hardly perfect, but it's far better for all of us than an ostensibly "pure white" America.

I read your article... It's i nteresting, and not at all surprising, to find out that you hang out at that hotbed of anti-semitic conspiracy theories.

Finally, nobody said you aren't allowed to have "white pride." I don't know why you feel compelled to wave your fake martyrdom around at everyone. You can be proud about being white, and I can be proud about not being a racist lunatic.


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