Oh, how sweet. A troll is excited about posting first! on Atrios's blog. He must really like being here. You go Gary!
mer |
10.22.05 - 2:40 pm | #
Fuck you all!
Gary Ruppert | 10.22.05 - 2:28 pm | #
what he said |
10.22.05 - 2:44 pm | #
YGLESIAS SUPPORTED THE WAR!
why is he giving out any shit |
10.22.05 - 2:45 pm | #
that's the best reply to ruppert i've read in a while Stinky! Keep it up!
Plum P |
10.22.05 - 2:45 pm | #
I stole this gravatar.
V1 Pot Roast |
10.22.05 - 2:45 pm | #
Bush presidency: FIERY WRECK!
res ipsa loquitur |
10.22.05 - 2:45 pm | #
SNL tonite: the fantastiques Franz Ferdinant + the Zeta Jones hosting and the return of Tina Fey 6 weeks after giving birth. Voilà
Plum P |
10.22.05 - 2:47 pm | #
SMALL MEDIA MATT SUPPORTED THE WAR IN IRAQ
why is he giving out any shit |
10.22.05 - 2:48 pm | #
BUSH AND ARNOLD ARE THE MAN MEN PROPHECIZED BY OUR FOUNDERS AND BELEIVED BY ALL TRUE AMERICANS. YOU MUST ALLY YOURSELF WITH THE MAN MEN LEST THEY COME FOR YOU IN THE NIGHT WITHOUT ASKING FIRST.
MOVE TO FRANCE HIPPIES!
dith |
10.22.05 - 2:48 pm | #
I wonder if this one of George Packer's ancestors...
"I never knew a man who had better motives for all the trouble he caused,"
Graham Greene, The Quiet American
I just got that DVD for 5 bucks at the Fletcher General Store. Haven't watched it yet--never read the book...
NTodd the Jeanass |
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10.22.05 - 2:48 pm | #
Just the same, Yglesias is a pontificating ass who held to the Iraq Hawk line far too long. He is no better in my mind than Joementum, and only slightly less scrotal.
bodkin |
10.22.05 - 2:49 pm | #
I was just thinking about the confluenece of several important events that have occurred in 2005.
The Congress passed and the President happily signed into law both the severe limitation of both class action suit protection and bankruptcy protection.
Coincident with this, hurricanes have situated insurance companies with a heavy cash outflow.
In sum, what mechanism is left for the rank and file policyholders to obtain relief from a health insurer whose management suddenly adopts a "deny all claims" policy?
Max Planck |
10.22.05 - 2:50 pm | #
Packer does seem to pontificate a bit in his "Talk of the Town" essays in the New Yorker. Other than that, I don't know much about him.
mer |
10.22.05 - 2:50 pm | #
Friday Tai Shan (Panda Cub) blogging is finally up on my homepage a day late.
Also: Who does Tom Delay remind you of?
Arachnae |
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10.22.05 - 2:50 pm | #
Speaking of human flesh, I made soup.
NTodd the Jeanass |
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10.22.05 - 2:50 pm | #
I BACKED THE WAR IN IRAQ, UNTIL I DECIDED NOT TO. NOW I WRITE 'COLUMNS' ON THE WEB LAMBASTING THE LESS FICKLE, CALLIMG THEM STUPID, DISHONEST, OR SHORT SIGHTED.... I WONDER WHY ANYONE TAKES ME SERIOUSLY?
MATT YGKESIAS |
10.22.05 - 2:51 pm | #
Some people say that JFK was fixin' to pull our troops out of Vietnam, and that's why Jack Ruby killed him.
Lime Rickey |
10.22.05 - 2:51 pm | #
OT,
Any of you music lovers out there heard of the Latin group Mana?
ignoreland, Master Wonderer |
10.22.05 - 2:52 pm | #
Hey gary, don't forget to hang your stockings and get the Fitzmas pudding on the stove - nothing like stewed wingnut bile! Mmmmmmmm!
Now let's all sing gary a tune, Ooooooooooh, you better watch out, you better not cry, better not pout I'm telling you why... http://tinyurl.com/c8cv2
Archibald Tuttle |
10.22.05 - 2:52 pm | #
Some people say that JFK was fixin' to pull our troops out of Vietnam, and that's why Jack Ruby killed him.
Dunno if that's why, uh...Oswald killed him, but I heard that he was ready to pull advisors. Then LBJ didn't want to be the preznit who lost Vietnam. Dumbass.
NTodd the Jeanass |
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10.22.05 - 2:52 pm | #
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NTodd the Jeanass |
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10.22.05 - 2:55 pm | #
Fuck you all!
Gary Ruppert | 10.22.05 - 2:28 pm | #
what he said | 10.22.05 - 2:44 pm | #
Y'Know, it really bothers the shit outa them that they were completely wrong about Iraq and we were completely right. So this is what their arguments have been reduced to, playground taunts.
Another Bruce |
10.22.05 - 2:55 pm | #
Just the same, Yglesias is a pontificating ass who held to the Iraq Hawk line far too long. He is no better in my mind than Joementum, and only slightly less scrotal.
Oh, for God's sake, people. He thought the wrong thoughts past some imaginary expiration date? Is that it? And now he's the same as Lieberman?
Christ on a rubber crutch, can't you disagree with someone without shouting "Off with his head!"
hamletta |
10.22.05 - 2:56 pm | #
I love that article from the NYT: "the relentless Mr. Fitzgerald." Ooh, I loves the sound of that.
Tena |
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10.22.05 - 2:56 pm | #
Dumbass.
NTodd the Jeanass
I resemble that remark.
Lime Rickey |
10.22.05 - 2:56 pm | #
Some people say that JFK was fixin' to pull our troops out of Vietnam, and that's why Jack Ruby killed him.
Then "some people" are fixin' to be moranic dumasses. The US didn't surpass the failsafe point until Johnson's administration.
Lyndon Johnson was much more of a tragic Greek figure than Nixon.
I think the weight of his his fuck ups actually ended his life prematurely.
Max Planck |
10.22.05 - 2:57 pm | #
Off to alleviate personal hunger in this decade. Keep a spot open at the table for me, and I'll bring ya back a beer, later.
♥
Jeffraham Prestonian |
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10.22.05 - 2:57 pm | #
Some people say that JFK was fixin' to pull our troops out of Vietnam, and that's why Jack Ruby killed him.
Jack Ruby killed JFK?
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat |
10.22.05 - 2:58 pm | #
Dumbass.
NTodd the Jeanass
I resemble that remark.
I meant LBJ. Sorry. The Nazi Twins have gotten me a bit depressed, so I've been nipping at the firewater a little early.
Speaking of which, my podcast is 51% uploaded. Fucking satellite uploads.
NTodd the Jeanass |
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10.22.05 - 2:58 pm | #
hamletta - WRT: Yglesias - I think some people resent the shit out of the liberal hawks for supporting the murderous FUBAR that is Iraq. I'm one of them.
And the liberal hawks castigated the liberals who were against the war, so payback may be a bitch, but that's life.
Tena |
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10.22.05 - 2:58 pm | #
Y'Know, it really bothers the shit outa them that they were completely wrong about Iraq and we were completely right. So this is what their arguments have been reduced to, playground taunts.
Another Bruce
Bruce:
Their little fantasy world is melting away in the light of reality.
They can't deal with that!
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat |
10.22.05 - 2:59 pm | #
Christ on a rubber crutch, can't you disagree with someone without shouting "Off with his head!"
Oswald was the fall guy. Doncha watch the History Channel?
Lime Rickey |
10.22.05 - 3:00 pm | #
From below...
I hate to say it but... Ruppert may have a point about White Nationalists and Christianity. Not all, but many switch from Chrstianity to Atheism, like Tom Metzger, and he was photographed with those two bimbos. The reasoning behind Metzger's transformation :
Soon afterwards, Metzger changed the name of his group to "White Aryan Resistance" (or WAR). WAR worked to recruit members though prisons and regarded Christianity to be a form of Judaism.
Hatred of Jews. I can see them being pagans, Odinists.
I hate to say it but |
10.22.05 - 3:01 pm | #
the liberal hawks castigated the liberals who were against the war, so payback may be a bitch, but that's life.
Fuckin-A, Tena. Fuck them. Until they crawl to Santiago on their bloody fucking knees and prove they've seen how fucking wrong they were for support the war AND for railing against us, I am not going to fucking forgive the warmongering, goatfucking motherfuckers.
NTodd the Jeanass |
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10.22.05 - 3:01 pm | #
BUSH AND ARNOLD ARE THE MAN MEN PROPHECIZED BY OUR FOUNDERS AND BELEIVED BY ALL TRUE AMERICANS. YOU MUST ALLY YOURSELF WITH THE MAN MEN LEST THEY COME FOR YOU IN THE NIGHT WITHOUT ASKING FIRST.
MOVE TO FRANCE HIPPIES!
dith
Oh, fuck - I HOPE this is a PARODY troll ala Merkin Patriot.
If Not:
Maybe they'll come for YOU in the night.
With the white coats bearing a strait jacket.
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat |
10.22.05 - 3:01 pm | #
Jack Ruby killed JFK?
With an untraceable pistol at 400 yards.
For Jackie's sake.
Max Planck |
10.22.05 - 3:01 pm | #
Continue fucking yourselves!
Gary Ruppert
God, I love the smell of troll desperation in the afternoon.
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat |
10.22.05 - 3:02 pm | #
I think the weight of his his fuck ups actually ended his life prematurely.
Well, that and the quart of whiskey a day.
Billy B |
10.22.05 - 3:02 pm | #
Wanker of the Day:
Dumbcan Black
shitsky
Dumbcan Beer
I hate to say it but |
10.22.05 - 3:02 pm | #
What did you Liberal Elitists do to Gary Ruppert Pupkin while I was gone?
Usually he just spews rote RNC talking points. Now he's completely enraged.
res ipsa loquitur |
10.22.05 - 3:03 pm | #
More evidence of a growing divide between Bush and Cheney...
The more desperate they are, the dumber their posts are.
Pitiful, just pitiful!
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat |
10.22.05 - 3:03 pm | #
You're all wrong. Clinton whacked JFK. With Hillary's help, of course. She was behind the Grassy Knoll, Clinton was in the TBD building in the sniper's nest.
Think I'm wrong? Prove the Clintons weren't in Dallas on Nov 22, 1963, You can't, and that should tell you something...
tristero |
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10.22.05 - 3:03 pm | #
George Washington
Much of the myth of Washington's alleged Christianity came from Mason Weems influential book, "Life of Washington." The story of the cherry tree comes from this book and it has no historical basis. Weems, a Christian minister portrayed Washington as a devout Christian, yet Washington's own diaries show that he rarely attended Church.
Washington revealed almost nothing to indicate his spiritual frame of mind, hardly a mark of a devout Christian. In his thousands of letters, the name of Jesus Christ never appears. He rarely spoke about his religion, but his Freemasonry experience points to a belief in deism. Washington's initiation occurred at the Fredericksburg Lodge on 4 November 1752, later becoming a Master mason in 1799, and remained a freemason until he died.
To the United Baptist Churches in Virginia in May, 1789, Washington said that every man "ought to be protected in worshipping the Deity according to the dictates of his own conscience."
After Washington's death, Dr. Abercrombie, a friend of his, replied to a Dr. Wilson, who had interrogated him about Washington's religion replied, "Sir, Washington was a Deist."
I hate to say it, but... |
10.22.05 - 3:04 pm | #
She was behind the Grassy Knoll
I heard that Grassy Knoll is Shrub's nickname for Condi Rice.
Max Planck |
10.22.05 - 3:04 pm | #
Are you (Scooter) going to be the fall guy, the patsy, the designated chump bearing the cross of blame while Rove plays the part of injured bystander? Are you happy at the prospect that your name may soon be a national joke on the lips of every late-nite comedian? Are you going to ignore the humiliation of being hung out to dry by your colleagues and hold your head high in silent stoic resolve?
See, I'm imaging that if I'm Scooter Libby, I might be thinking that Karl and his crew overplayed their hand making me the leper, and maybe I've got some things of my own to divulge, and if I go down, maybe I won't be going down alone.
res ipsa loquitur |
10.22.05 - 3:05 pm | #
Wanker of the Day:
Dumbcan Black
shitsky | 10.22.05 - 3:00 pm | #
That wasn't me.
NTodd the Jeanass |
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10.22.05 - 3:05 pm | #
God, I love the smell of troll desperation in the afternoon.
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat
God, I love the fact that people take time out of their lives to talk to me.
troll |
10.22.05 - 3:05 pm | #
What does "more on the flip mean?"
Arabella |
10.22.05 - 3:05 pm | #
Put down the crack pipes move to France hippies where you can 'party' with your tranny hookers.
dith |
10.22.05 - 3:05 pm | #
What did you Liberal Elitists do to Gary Ruppert Pupkin while I was gone?
Usually he just spews rote RNC talking points. Now he's completely enraged.
res ipsa loquitur |
I think it was a combination of us AND AmericaBlog continually giving him the red ass.
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat |
10.22.05 - 3:06 pm | #
She was behind the Grassy Knoll
Proof that Hillary's a muff-diver...
NTodd the Jeanass |
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10.22.05 - 3:06 pm | #
Some of the Senators claimed to have supported the "war" resolution due to the potential of nukes.
Two days before the invasion, ElBardei finally got a copy of the forged Niger letter and told the world it was a phony.
But our beloved Kerry (who I worked hard for) and the rest of the "democrats" never said a friggin thing. Right?
ErinPDX |
10.22.05 - 3:06 pm | #
Put down the crack pipes move to France hippies where you can 'party' with your tranny hookers.
dith |
Yep - HAS to be a parody troll.
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat |
10.22.05 - 3:06 pm | #
God, I love the fact that people take time out of their lives to talk to me.
Rice would have been a little young to have been in on the plot to kill JFK. But I'll look into it. Thanks for the tip. Max Planck, you're a constant in this sea of relativity in which we spin.
tristero |
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10.22.05 - 3:07 pm | #
You're all wrong. Clinton whacked JFK. With Hillary's help, of course. She was behind the Grassy Knoll, Clinton was in the TBD building in the sniper's nest.
Think I'm wrong? Prove the Clintons weren't in Dallas on Nov 22, 1963, You can't, and that should tell you something...
tristero
Bill and Hillary...they was a-flyin' them that air-o-planes on 9-11.
They parachuted at the last second.
Yayah - they done that.
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat |
10.22.05 - 3:08 pm | #
bork is back, unfortunately.
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat |
10.22.05 - 3:09 pm | #
For Jackie's sake.
Max Planck
If Ruby had been a Greek shipping magnate he mighta stood a chance. Jackie was turned off by his low-class stripper dive.
Lime Rickey |
10.22.05 - 3:09 pm | #
Dance, monkey! Dance!
Where's my fucking treat, organ grinding goatfucker? I'm hungry. I want my treat.
NTodd the Jeanass |
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10.22.05 - 3:09 pm | #
Dance, monkey! Dance!
troll |
Even weirder.
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat
Well, there's no confusion about who the #1 monkey is, is there, Terry?
God, I love the fact that people take time out of their lives to talk to me.
Weird.
NTodd the Jeanass
Ah, the list grows longer...
LMFAO!
This is the kind of spontaneous publicity I need. My name in print. That really makes somebody. Things are going to start happening to me now!
NTodd the Jeanass |
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10.22.05 - 3:10 pm | #
Tena, Sallyh, and all you other classy people out there - I need Ms. Manners.
We are invited to a traditional chinese dinner tonight. What shall we bring?
It is parents of my kids' friends. They are all in a band together and we parents are having our bonding/get acquainted time. They said to dress casual and not bring anything (when I asked), but obviously I should bring something.
Crack, baby, crack,
show us your rear
Smack, baby, smack, is that all that you fear
Suck, baby, suck,
get in the bed
Before you start professing
that you're knocking me dead
Billy B |
10.22.05 - 3:11 pm | #
Until they crawl to Santiago on their bloody fucking knees and prove they've seen how fucking wrong they were for support the war AND for railing against us
See, I don't get this. First of all I don't understand the need to see people grovel for having been wrong. Where do you get the idea that Yglesias owes you something? He wised up and changed his opinion. Why isn't that enough?
Secondly, did Yglesias rail against anti-war people? I mean, I know people like Sullivan did, but did he?
hamletta |
10.22.05 - 3:11 pm | #
Dance, monkey! Dance!
Where's my fucking treat, organ grinding goatfucker? I'm hungry. I want my treat.
NTodd the Jeanass
Hilarious! I am sitting in my basement in my cheeto-stained underwear and you are taking time out of your life to respond to me!
This is so fucking easy!
troll |
10.22.05 - 3:11 pm | #
DEMS ARE SPITTLE MEN. THEY PUKE OUT SPITTLE LIES FROM THERE BRUTE FROTH HOLES.
Were you absent the day the teacher taught the kids the difference between "there," "their," and "they're?"
res ipsa loquitur |
10.22.05 - 3:12 pm | #
God, I love the fact that people take time out of their lives to talk to me.
Weird.
NTodd the Jeanass
Ah, the list grows longer...
LMFAO!
This is the kind of spontaneous publicity I need. My name in print. That really makes somebody. Things are going to start happening to me now!
NTodd the Jeanass
They said to dress casual and not bring anything (when I asked), but obviously I should bring something.
Bottle of wine?
Bunch of cut flowers?
A pound of some very nice freshy ground coffee?
res ipsa loquitur |
10.22.05 - 3:13 pm | #
Hilarious! I am sitting in my basement in my cheeto-stained underwear and you are taking time out of your life to respond to me!
Hilarious! I am sitting in my leather chair in the living room, my feet propped up on the ottoman, in my unstained underwear and you are taking time out of your life to goad me!
You just can't help yourself, can you?
Oh, great, now you're making fun of my OCD? Sheepblowing asshat.
NTodd the Jeanass |
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10.22.05 - 3:14 pm | #
Help!
ErinPDX
Just bring a bottle of wine.
No way are you gonna figure out a proper side dish.
Agreed hamletta, when someone is on your side, don't waste your time by proving how wrong they used to be.
Another Bruce |
10.22.05 - 3:15 pm | #
They said to dress casual and not bring anything (when I asked), but obviously I should bring something.
Ooh, ooh, I know, I know! Bring a preserved monkey's paw. Chinese people totally dig that. No, really...
NTodd the Jeanass |
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10.22.05 - 3:15 pm | #
Hilarious! I am sitting in my basement in my cheeto-stained underwear and you are taking time out of your life to respond to me!
Hilarious! I am sitting in my leather chair in the living room, my feet propped up on the ottoman, in my unstained underwear and you are taking time out of your life to goad me!
You just can't help yourself, can you?
Oh, great, now you're making fun of my OCD? Sheepblowing asshat.
NTodd the Jeanass
Absolutely fucking hysterical!!!
Yes, I am a sheepblowing asshat and you just can't resist me!
I totally fucking own you!
troll |
10.22.05 - 3:16 pm | #
Hey folks, between getting pwn3d and bitchslapped by trolls and being unable to ban fy because he uses SuSE linux, how can avoid hanging my head in shame?
Warren Terra |
10.22.05 - 3:17 pm | #
OT, but I didn't want to waste it on the dead thread below:
It seems as though the Judy³ caper has a traditional plot device used to good effect in sitcoms every day of the week, and in everything from "The Producers" to "Goodfellas".
The protagonist (or anti-protagonist) is a natural "operator", a person disposed to keep busy and active pursuing self-promotion. Like art movements, such dynamos progress through three stages: novel, mature, decadent.
During the plateau of Phase II, she was allowed to operate in a dim light and the soft-focus mist of unconditional positive regard. A transactional dynamic emerged between Judy³, her bosses, and the government powers and principalities.
All of the troublesome questions and considerations that the NYT brass are slowly coming to publicly-- with much apparent perplexity and trepidation-- were invisible in the mists of indulgence.
On her part, Judy³ masterfully exploited this friendly fog and was able to do her thing by telling everyone what they wanted to hear. During Phase II, the protagonist seems able to miraculously get away with all sorts of outrages that ought to trigger reprisals or at least suspicion.
(It's also possible that there was active and explicit collusion between all the parties all along, by the way. But that's another straw man.)
The investigation itself is a catalyst that triggered Phase III. The lights have come up, and the protagonist loses that sweet buoyant bubble of indulgence. Now at least some of the public, including bloggers, pundits, and NYT readers, get a closer look at Judy³. And she is suddenly subjected to a level of critical scrutiny unknown in the preceding phases. Now the long honeymoon is over. All of the unsavory and unsettling twists to her career are brought into sharper focus, and the queen's scepter turns out to be a snake studded with chancres.
She tries to rescue her situation by resorting to the same blithe and glib inconsistencies that previously sufficed to satisfy her interlocutors. Delivered, as always with panache and moxie.
But now that her statements and actions are being scrutinized and compared, her Dance of the Veils approach just ratchets up her incredibility. She's like Henry Hill in "Goodfellas", trying to tie up a million loose ends as the helicopters close in. And, like Henry, Judy³ has to grapple with the problem of not being sure who her allies are as the situation deteriorates. She's at a point where she's talking faster and faster out of both sides of her mouth and can neither trust nor be trusted. Jolly entertaining!
And now for the endgame.
Little Brøther |
10.22.05 - 3:17 pm | #
G Packer and all this wankfest - fuck you all. Go trade places with Riverbend. I mean it. Fuck you fucking assholes.
Digby is so glad Matt's come around. FUCK THIS SHIT.
This is why this country is going down fast. Privileged (unearned) assholes, all of us, sipping our genteel drinks of choice, debating the fine points of mass murder.
This whole Iraq quagmire has been one large wankfest. Which would be ok, except that people are getting killed and tortured every day as a result of the wankery.
Hecate |
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10.22.05 - 3:18 pm | #
OT, but on point: The "deferential press" and the "deferential Democrats":
Media at a Huge Crossroads, 25 Years After Reagan's Triumph
by Norman Solomon
(snip) A quarter of a century ago, conservative Republicans captured the White House. Today, a more extreme incarnation of the GOP's right wing has a firm grip on the executive branch. None of it would have been possible without a largely deferential press corps.
(snip)
For the next eight years, a "Teflon presidency" had the news media making excuses for the nation's chief executive, who often got his facts wrong while substituting folksy exclamations for documented assertions. The Democratic Party's majorities on Capitol Hill rarely challenged Reagan, and the Washington press corps used the passivity of the Democrats to justify its own. As Walter Karp wrote in Harper's magazine a few months after Reagan left office, "the private story behind every major non-story during the Reagan administration was the Democrats' tacit alliance with Reagan."
That tacit alliance included going easy on Reagan and his vice-president-turned-successor, George H.W. Bush – despite the Iran-Contra scandal that exposed their roles in the illegal funneling of aid to the Nicaraguan Contras...
(snip)
"For eight years," Karp wrote in mid-1989, "the Democratic opposition had shielded from the public a feckless, lawless president with an appalling appetite for private power. That was the story of the Reagan years, and Washington journalists evidently knew it. Yet they never turned the collusive politics of the Democratic Party into news."
Today, words like "feckless" and "lawless" seem like understatements when applied to the current president.... Yet the news media – again with notable assists from Democratic leaders in Congress – are doing much to keep the Bush regime afloat.
Like two decades ago, the absence of tough Democratic leadership on Capitol Hill – combined with an overly respectful press – enables the White House to retain extensive political leverage.
I'm not totally sure the Dems are that complicit in this goround--perhaps just ignored and totally powerless. During the Reagan/Bush I years, the Dems held the House and had investigative powers which are totally lacking now. Solomon may be a bit harsh on today's Dems, but hits it with the collusion and deference of the MSM.
jawbone |
10.22.05 - 3:18 pm | #
how can (I) avoid hanging my head in shame?
Warren Terra |
10.22.05 - 3:18 pm | #
I can understand the politicians who supported this war and shouldn't have a lot easier than I can people like Yglesias.
I can see where the Democrats were thoroughly convinced the country wanted the war, based on where Bush was polling at the time - the highest ratings of his presidency.
What I will never understand is why pundits on the left ever fell for the junta's bullshit. I just will never understand it.
Tena |
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10.22.05 - 3:18 pm | #
Hey, I own NTodd! I kept the receipt and everything, and he's still under warranty.
Everyione should own an NTodd. It's a nice addition to any home. Try to get the "pants-wearing" model, tho, even if it is pricier.
Thers |
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10.22.05 - 3:18 pm | #
I'm rooting for troll on this on. He's soooo right.
Can't go wrong with flowers for the hostess.
Hecate |
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10.22.05 - 3:19 pm | #
Agreed hamletta, when someone is on your side, don't waste your time by proving how wrong they used to be.
Every decision has consequences, particularly moral ones. Just saying, "gosh, I was wrong" doesn't cut it. You want to come back to the Light? Fucking admit your sins, then you have the moral standing to talk about what to do next. Sorry, but getting to be an arrogant prick who condemns those who are truly right, then getting off scot free and coming over to the winning team when the score is 72-0 is not the makings of somebody with the character I want on my team. PENANCE, BITCHES!
NTodd the Jeanass |
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10.22.05 - 3:19 pm | #
I agree with the poster that said that for some poeple welfare is a way of life. 5 years cap is too long. I think 18n months is sufficient. If you need more, it should be on a case by case basis.
Live Free or Die |
10.22.05 - 3:20 pm | #
troll = Gordo
It's his exact same schtick -- all except for the WHAPPIIISH!
How are things at the Delta house, Gordo? Have you dropped out of USM, yet -- or been asked to leave? Have you found another job?
Toonscribe |
10.22.05 - 3:20 pm | #
Hey, I own NTodd! I kept the receipt and everything, and he's still under warranty.
Everyione should own an NTodd. It's a nice addition to any home. Try to get the "pants-wearing" model, tho, even if it is pricier.
Thers ,/i>
Yes, I am a sheepblowing asshat and you just can't resist me!
Damn, somebody totally outed me as having a penchant for sheepblowing asshats. I hope people will understand that it's mostly a problem with my brain chemistry. Now I'm going to pour myself another glass of wine.
Hey, I own NTodd! I kept the receipt and everything, and he's still under warranty.
Need me to fetch anything whilst I'm up?
NTodd the Jeanass |
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10.22.05 - 3:21 pm | #
Oh, and some "liberal hawks" still seem terribly confused about the distinction between "a theoretical, good war in Iraq" and "the actual war proposed, sold, lied about, and botched by the Bushies."
The first one never was on the table, so arguing about it is pointless.
Thers |
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10.22.05 - 3:21 pm | #
I'm rooting for troll on this on. He's soooo right.
.
agave
The list grows, yet again....
I am the center of attraction!
troll |
10.22.05 - 3:21 pm | #
Fuckin-A, Tena. Fuck them. Until they crawl to Santiago on their bloody fucking knees and prove they've seen how fucking wrong they were for support the war AND for railing against us, I am not going to fucking forgive the warmongering, goatfucking motherfuckers.
NTodd the Jeanass |
You know I agree with the sentiment, but we have to be gracious. We need their fucking votes. No gloating.
ql in ny |
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10.22.05 - 3:21 pm | #
Yes, I am a sheepblowing asshat and you just can't resist me!
Damn, somebody totally outed me as having a penchant for sheepblowing asshats. I hope people will understand that it's mostly a problem with my brain chemistry. Now I'm going to pour myself another glass of wine.
Hey, I own NTodd! I kept the receipt and everything, and he's still under warranty.
Need me to fetch anything whilst I'm up?
NTodd the Jeanass
I just re-read that Wolcott post and it's one of his best. I wish I could write half as well as that man. The next time I see him I am going to bow, or curtsy, or something.
res ipsa loquitur |
10.22.05 - 3:23 pm | #
WAPISH! Ooh, that reminds me: need to go piss.
NTodd the pw3ned |
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10.22.05 - 3:23 pm | #
I am doubled over from laughter!
I am quadrupled over from laughter!
Monkey, respond to this!
As you wish.
NTodd the pw3ned |
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10.22.05 - 3:24 pm | #
I saw a car in the grocery store parking lot with a great bumper sticker: Loving Kindness Is My Religion. Of course, it was next to a Kerry bumper sticker.
Hecate |
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10.22.05 - 3:24 pm | #
I think all the wankers in the press owe Howard Dean a big apology. When he had the temerity to suggest that the US was not safer b/c of the invasion. I remember when Timmy, Tweety and even Margaret Carlson were hammmering Dean for saying that. Timmy also owes Dean an apology for tripping out about Dean saying that Delay is going to jail.
Live Free or Die |
10.22.05 - 3:24 pm | #
"genteel drinks of choice" What does that mean?
Arabella |
10.22.05 - 3:25 pm | #
For the next eight years, a "Teflon presidency" had the news media making excuses for the nation's chief executive, who often got his facts wrong while substituting folksy exclamations for documented assertions.
But he's the most beloved of America's presidents, and he's got a legacy too.
Lime Rickey |
10.22.05 - 3:25 pm | #
Whew, I was so distracted by my erotic dance for gordo that I almost pissed my pants. 'cept I'm not wearing pants.
NTodd the pw3ned |
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10.22.05 - 3:26 pm | #
Thers,
You nail it. No matter any theoretical justification for a theoretical war, we all knew what a half-assed clusterfuck this was going to be. That was enough reason for me. I wouldn't want Bush and his gang taking out my garbage, they'd find a way to fuck that up too.
Warren Terra |
10.22.05 - 3:26 pm | #
I am doubled over from laughter!
I am quadrupled over from laughter!
Monkey, respond to this!
As you wish.
NTodd the pw3ned
I have such a well-trained pet!
Monkey, respond to this, I command you!
troll |
10.22.05 - 3:26 pm | #
I think all the wankers in the press owe Howard Dean a big apology.
A lot of people owe Howard Dean apologies.
A LOT of apologies.
But Dean is twice the man any of them will ever be, which means he's not sitting around waiting for apologies.
Fuck the press.
res ipsa loquitur |
10.22.05 - 3:26 pm | #
But he's the most beloved of America's presidents, and he's got a legacy too.
Lime Rickey
"I don't care about history. I'll be dead by then."
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat |
10.22.05 - 3:26 pm | #
(when I asked), but obviously I should bring something.
shao sin wine, should be served warm.
ql in ny |
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10.22.05 - 3:27 pm | #
I wonder how things are going for Gordon down at Fidelity in Charlotte, NC?
res ipsa loquitur |
10.22.05 - 3:27 pm | #
Monkey, respond to this, I command you!
How wouldst thou liketh I respond, oh master? Dost thou want to touch thine monkey?
NTodd the pw3ned |
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10.22.05 - 3:28 pm | #
During my third "trip" to Iraq, I threw myself on a grenade for gordo. It was a dud. So was the grenade.
NTodd the pw3ned |
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10.22.05 - 3:29 pm | #
bodkin -- "Just the same, Yglesias is a pontificating ass" -- agreed. Shallow and callow.
Beyond that, I parted ways with an especially dear friend over arguments similar to those in the linked post. My friend, a skeptic when he left, came back from Vietnam with that unalterable need to believe that he'd done the right thing. I could accept that as his reality, but when I wouldn't change my position in opposing the war, he didn't want anything more to do with me.
cs |
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10.22.05 - 3:29 pm | #
Jeebus....
Haven't been able to access
Haloscan since early this morning.
Somebody give me the short version
of what I missed.
Where the hell were you at about 2 PM. I was outside your house, doing the "Romeo and Juliet" thing (in reverse) again.
What floor are you on, anyway?
res ipsa loquitur |
10.22.05 - 3:31 pm | #
BTW:
Over at his piece of shit blog
that nobody ever posts a comment
at, the Little Sociopath (TM)
is advocating bombing Damascus.
You can't make this shit up.
steve simels |
10.22.05 - 3:31 pm | #
Oh dear. I've just heard from the WalterNeff whom I thought was Our WalterNeff - and he says he's not....
Our WalterNeff is still missing from our cadre.
Very sorry, really did think I had him.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar |
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10.22.05 - 3:32 pm | #
Fuck you all!
Gary Ruppert
man, that is so much better than first, or fluffit or...
most intellingent ruppert post yet.
i try never to argue on the net.
one could postulate good reasons for taking out saddam, maybe even have done it effectively over time. wrong war, at the wrong time, in the wrong way.
hey, read billmon. i hope both he and dean are wrong. but i think billmon calls it.
charley |
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10.22.05 - 3:32 pm | #
cs,
It's sad. I've lost friends over this war who wouldn't let up on the "we're at war, arabs want to kill us all" crap. I miss them, but they reminded me of someone who's been brainwashed and just can't accept any reality. Or members of a cult.
Hecate |
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10.22.05 - 3:32 pm | #
"Everyione should own an NTodd. It's a nice addition to any home. Try to get the "pants-wearing" model, tho, even if it is pricier." -- Thers
I don't see the benefit of an NTodd with pants myself. I always go for the pants-free model.
Marcia Brady,NowWithIntegrity |
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10.22.05 - 3:32 pm | #
Somebody give me the short version
of what I missed.
Sad, but oh so true.
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat |
10.22.05 - 3:34 pm | #
This is hilarious! NTODD has no self-restarint and is allowing me to dominate his afternoon!
I absolutely have no self-restarint. I also have no restaurant. Nor do I have a PECTOPAH.
I do have a pecker. It's made of wood. I'm holding it right now.
Oops, glass is empty. Gotta go refill. And check on my soup. Back in a moment, then I'll kick my legs on the ottoman (not the Turk) and continue to watch Fantasia whilst providing flypap, er...monkeypaper for gordo.
Duncan! Gogogo! Post some cleansheets! Save yourself and the others! Tell my mom I love her...
NTodd the pw3ned |
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10.22.05 - 3:34 pm | #
Fuck the press.
res ipsa loquitur
They're all bent out of shape because Dean said "Hide the salami."
Is this anti-Italianism?
Lime Rickey |
10.22.05 - 3:34 pm | #
Over at his piece of shit blog
that nobody ever posts a comment
at, the Little Sociopath (TM)
is advocating bombing Damascus.
He, of course, is STILL not running off to enlist.
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat |
10.22.05 - 3:35 pm | #
Having read much more than I would ever want to of the 'liberal' imperialists it is striking how much of their stuff focuses on the hearts and minds battle being waged among the insider and would be insider punditocracy. Here they are, having supported the biggest disaster in American foreign policy since Vietnam, if not ever, and they are gassing on about it, clawing at each other's eyes and they say next to nothing about the dead bodies all over the place and the vast numbers of people who want revenge on ALL OF US.
It's the theme song of the American intellectual class (sois disant), it's really all about us. Not only in the end but at the beginning middle and the aftermath too.
I've got no use for any of them, penitant or petulant.
EPT |
10.22.05 - 3:35 pm | #
I don't see the benefit of an NTodd with pants myself. I always go for the pants-free model.
Now there's somebody who reads Consumer Reports! The pants-free model has a lot of extra features and attachments for very little extra...
NTodd the pw3ned |
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10.22.05 - 3:35 pm | #
Please!
steve simels
I'm listening to your Dylan CD. It is grand.
ql in ny |
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10.22.05 - 3:35 pm | #
It's sad. I've lost friends over this war who wouldn't let up on the "we're at war, arabs want to kill us all" crap.
Me, too. I just took a long walk with one of them. We can't talk about anything substantive anymore. He knows that if anything related to Bush or the war comes up that I will crush him. And now that even he has to admit that it's a giant Clusterfuck he wouldn't dare.
So we stick to challenging topics like Madonna's new Farrah Fawcett hairdo and all the new restaurants popping up in our 'hood.
res ipsa loquitur |
10.22.05 - 3:36 pm | #
I'm listening to your Dylan CD. It is grand.
ql in ny | Email | Homepage | 10.22.05 - 3:35 pm | #
Totally forgot I sent it to you...
glad you're enjoying it, though.
Isn't the original Visions of
Johanna absolutely awesome?
steve simels |
10.22.05 - 3:37 pm | #
I don't see the benefit of an NTodd with pants myself. I always go for the pants-free model.
Marcia Brady,NowWithIntegrity
Yes indeedy. If I had been 25 years younger and unattached, Eschacon would have been a whole different experience.
ql in ny |
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10.22.05 - 3:37 pm | #
A lot of people owe Howard Dean apologies.
A LOT of apologies.
This is why when Dean goes on This Week tommorrow, He should jump on the table flip George Steph off with both hands, and chant, " I was right-kis my ass, I was right my ass". Then he should take a dump on the table and proclaim, "Apologize bitches!".
Live Free or Die |
10.22.05 - 3:38 pm | #
Excessive Bastard: what do they have to say? Don't wanna registerat the slimes!
jdw |
10.22.05 - 3:38 pm | #
This is hilarious! NTODD has no self-restarint and is allowing me to dominate his afternoon!
I absolutely have no self-restarint. I also have no restaurant. Nor do I have a PECTOPAH.
I do have a pecker. It's made of wood. I'm holding it right now.
Oops, glass is empty. Gotta go refill. And check on my soup. Back in a moment, then I'll kick my legs on the ottoman (not the Turk) and continue to watch Fantasia whilst providing flypap, er...monkeypaper for gordo.
Duncan! Gogogo! Post some cleansheets! Save yourself and the others! Tell my mom I love her...
NTodd the pw3ned
Fucking priceless!
Ntodd, you are an obediant monkey! Dance some more, monkey!
Respond to this, my pet!
troll |
10.22.05 - 3:38 pm | #
Dims are traitors they puke out spittle lies for their brute froth holes...
MOVE TO FRANCE HIPPIES!
dith |
10.22.05 - 3:39 pm | #
I just wanna say as an incredibly
old person that I love my new
MP3 player.
Damn, it's the size of a box of
Chiclets.
And it tells you the name of the
song.
My Walkman never did that!!!!!
steve simels |
10.22.05 - 3:39 pm | #
Excuse me, troll, but inducing someone to make a 15 second smartass reply to your lame trolls does not constitute 'pwnage' and do try to get your terms right.
Gary Frazier |
10.22.05 - 3:39 pm | #
This is why when Dean goes on This Week tommorrow, He should jump on the table flip George Steph off with both hands, and chant, " I was right-kis my ass, I was right my ass". Then he should take a dump on the table and proclaim, "Apologize bitches!".
I'd pay to see that.
Toonscribe |
10.22.05 - 3:39 pm | #
NTodd, your declaration of manwood certainly puts a whole new light on your relationship with Michele Malkin.
EPT |
10.22.05 - 3:40 pm | #
"This is why when Dean goes on This Week tommorrow, He should jump on the table flip George Steph off with both hands, and chant, " I was right-kis my ass, I was right my ass". Then he should take a dump on the table and proclaim, "Apologize bitches!". -- Live Free or Die
That would certainly capture the caprophiliac vote, which I understand is a growing sector of the electorate.
Marcia Brady,NowWithIntegrity |
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10.22.05 - 3:40 pm | #
Well, it's all so very in and kuhl and angst-ridden - and about a quarter of a step behind the performance of Missy Judy and her ilk.
Debating who was most rightfully right about the nuance of INVADING A SOVREIGN STATE WHICH HAD PRESENTED NO CASUS BELLI is a little too close to navel gazing. For me, anyway. Just saying.
mer! Got your envelopes here. Stop over. Sallyh! Your stuff's out in the car.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar |
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10.22.05 - 3:40 pm | #
They're all bent out of shape because Dean said "Hide the salami."
Is this anti-Italianism?
I believe this means to insert one's penis into a vagina/asshole. But more power too him. Bush was talking about OBGYNs practicing LOVE with women
Live Free or Die |
10.22.05 - 3:41 pm | #
steve simels -- We named our daughter for that song.
cs |
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10.22.05 - 3:42 pm | #
PREDICTION 'troll' will soon be going after Tena, pie or one of the other women who post here.
See you in the state where the nutmeg doesn't bloom soon, 't'.
EPT |
10.22.05 - 3:42 pm | #
I can't believe people are engaging
the trolls and I haven't been here
to participate.
steve simels |
10.22.05 - 3:42 pm | #
Totally forgot I sent it to you...
glad you're enjoying it, though.
Uhm, you didn't. :LOL: :LOL:
DWD did. It is absolutely smashing.
ql in ny |
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10.22.05 - 3:42 pm | #
"Bush was talking about OBGYNs practicing LOVE with women" --
Live Free or Die
And that creeped me the hell out for months.
Marcia Brady,NowWithIntegrity |
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10.22.05 - 3:42 pm | #
NTodd, your declaration of manwood certainly puts a whole new light on your relationship with Michele Malkin.
What can I say? Nasty, big, pointy teeth get me emotionally...erect.
NTodd the pw3ned |
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10.22.05 - 3:42 pm | #
Me love troll long time. Give him anyting he want for 5 dollah.
NTodd the pw3ned |
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10.22.05 - 3:44 pm | #
"What can I say? Nasty, big, pointy teeth get me emotionally...erect." --
NTodd the pw3ned
I knew I never had a chance...
Marcia Brady,NowWithIntegrity |
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10.22.05 - 3:44 pm | #
Dean was sooo right. Not one thing that he said was wrong. This must drive the press insane. He needs to point that out to George Steph.
Live Free or Die |
10.22.05 - 3:45 pm | #
ErinPDX --
Got me -- why don't ouy ask some traditional Chinese?
Prior Aelred |
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10.22.05 - 3:45 pm | #
Aaaargh!
Just getting ready to watch the UT vs Alabama game and CBS had to show that Condi's at the game. She's a Bama supporter. Just another reason to say -- "Go Vols!"
Toonscribe |
10.22.05 - 3:45 pm | #
Catch you all later!
all this pw3ning and moaning has worn me out...
Warren Terra |
10.22.05 - 3:46 pm | #
jdw, allow me to introduce you to my dear friend http://www.bugmenot.com, which provides this nytimes.com login:
Sweetie, have you ever seen Dumb and Dumber? If you have, you'll get my reference. If you haven't, you'll think I'm insulting you. That is not my intention. :-*
NTodd the pw3ned |
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10.22.05 - 3:46 pm | #
Haloscan is back to its "separator colon" crap.
Any word on what the problem is?
jawbone |
10.22.05 - 3:46 pm | #
The rightwingnuts, led by Scaife, made a concerted effort to own, operate or influence the MSM after the Goldwater defeat in 1964.
And they succeeded beyond their wildest dreams.
The MSM today is a craven, fawning, corporate whore, that sells out to it's sponsors, owners and the Gooper party with disgusting regularity.
Ray-gun was moron who was unfit for the office and Bushboy is, unbelievably, far worse - and neither has been given the adverse coverage by the media they deserved. Ergo: the mess America is in today!
THE FREE PRESS IN AMERICA: RIP
Rudy |
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10.22.05 - 3:47 pm | #
I can't believe people are engaging
the trolls and I haven't been here
to participate.
Don't worry, nobody has gotten a blowjob out of it yet.
NTodd the pw3ned |
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10.22.05 - 3:47 pm | #
Then he should take a dump on the table and proclaim, "Apologize bitches!".
Live Free or Die
at this point i frankly agree. tho in many ways, it's what he's done all along.
sometimes reality is a turd.
one thing i've always like about dean, he's not afraid to call a turd a turd.
george bush is a turd.
charley |
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10.22.05 - 3:47 pm | #
I dunno, maybe it's just me, but I think it would help our country immensely if we elected people who get things right.
Another Bruce |
10.22.05 - 3:47 pm | #
I thought it was Mr Hilter's National Bocialist party...?
NTodd the pw3ned |
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10.22.05 - 3:50 pm | #
Haloscan is back to its "separator colon" crap.
Any word on what the problem is?
jawbone
It's talking dirty.
I've seen the inside of Katie Couric's colon. Just sayin'...
NTodd the pw3ned |
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10.22.05 - 3:50 pm | #
About WalterNeff
"Very sorry, really did think I had him."
--GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar
Oh, dammit to hell.
Does anyone live in Seattle? Could someone check the obituaries in the newspapers for the last two weeks? (Last time I remember him posting was on a Sat. or Sun. before he was going to go back into the hospital to have some tubes removed on Mon., Oct. 10.) I know he was in graphic design and had a wife, and a daugther, if I remember correctly.
I hate this. He always made me laugh and made me think the way of the world would be okay.
mer |
10.22.05 - 3:51 pm | #
About WalterNeff
"Very sorry, really did think I had him."
--GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar
update: they are being failed by a half cocked maniac. last i heard he was republican, and a turd.
charley |
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10.22.05 - 3:52 pm | #
Sweetie, have you ever seen Dumb and Dumber? If you have, you'll get my reference. If you haven't, you'll think I'm insulting you. That is not my intention. :-*
NTodd the pw3ned
Well, asking if I've actually watched Dumb and Dumber is pretty insulting in its own right.
Marcia Brady,NowWithIntegrity |
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10.22.05 - 3:52 pm | #
steve simels -- just emailed you to say I hadn't seen you posting & ask if oyu were still having problems getting on -- obviously not -- ever figure out the problem?
Dean was right -- we all knew Dean was right -- Kerry was wrong -- still is -- I voted for him anyway -- would rather have had Ho Ho ("first we have to break up the media conglomerates") Dean!
Prior Aelred |
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10.22.05 - 3:52 pm | #
Prior, any more the chances are pretty good that a 'traditional Chinese dinner' is going to be Kentucky Fried Chicken. ErinPDX needs to take a nice bouquet of gold autumnal flowers with the special ferny stuff and be surprised.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar |
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10.22.05 - 3:52 pm | #
"Bush was talking about OBGYNs practicing LOVE with women" --
Live Free or Die
And that creeped me the hell out for months.
Marcia Brady,NowWithIntegrity
Good thing for him he wasn't talking about pediatricians.
Incidentally, my Ob-Gyn said that Bar and Poppy threw out the kid and kept the afterbirth in Chimpy's case.
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat |
10.22.05 - 3:53 pm | #
Thanks everyone.
Flowers and wine it is.
ErinPDX |
10.22.05 - 3:54 pm | #
Mer, dear, all it means is that we still haven't heard from him. Although, you know that Otter was going out to Seattle about the 10th or 11th and planned to stop in.
But there's really no more need to draw fearful conclusions now than there was yesterday. I'm awfully sorry about the mistake - but really, that's all there is to it.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar |
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10.22.05 - 3:56 pm | #
I believe this means to insert one's penis into a vagina/asshole. But more power too him. Bush was talking about OBGYNs practicing LOVE with women
Live Free or Die
OK. This Italian girl I knew always said "Hide the zuchunni," but I guess it amounts to the same thing.
Lime Rickey |
10.22.05 - 3:56 pm | #
Dims want our troops to fail.
dith
Ted is sulking again. Did someone else kick his ass or is it still from the other day?
When do you put on the fishnets, Ted? It's been a while since we had a girl troll visit.
EPT |
10.22.05 - 3:56 pm | #
steve -- just got your email
Rudy -- you nailed the MSM again -- Scaife is a dangerous man -- he is one of the people funding the fundies's attempted take over of main stream Christianity (Methodists, Presbyterians & Episcopalians)
Prior Aelred |
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10.22.05 - 3:56 pm | #
hee...hee... true and yet still amusing..
wanker of yesterday - karen hughes...
Rochelle Robinson |
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10.22.05 - 3:56 pm | #
Uhm, you didn't. :LOL: :LOL:
DWD did. It is absolutely smashing.
Oh.....even better!
Honest to god, I've traded CDs
with so many people here I've
totally lost track of who and
what.
I was really paranoid at
Eschacon that I'd get busted for
not remembering who had sent me
cool stuff.
steve simels |
10.22.05 - 3:56 pm | #
Breaking News:
R. Kelly makes sex tape with stars of Prussian Blue
By WILL WEISSERT
Associated Press Writer
BAKERSVILLE, CA(AP) -- A tape surfaced that had Rap sensation R. Kelly and the underaged duo Prussian Blue having anal intercourse. A spokesman for Kelly said that his client did not know that the girls were underage. Prussian Blue, whose single "Skinhead Boy" is expected to go platinum, said that they did not know Kelly was a "n***er".
Live Free or Die |
10.22.05 - 3:56 pm | #
The MSM did it's usual character assassination work for the Goopers regarding Howard Dean's so called "outburst," which they played endlessly and spun as a man "out of control," when in fact he was simply trying to rouse his troops after a primary defeat.
The MSM did the same thing with the swiftboating of Kerry, as they regurgitated the lies of the Swiftboat whores.
Meanwhile, Bushboy's shameful military service (or lack thereof) got a pass, except for Rather, who paid for his "transgression."
Rudy |
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10.22.05 - 3:58 pm | #
ErinPDX --
See, lots of good suggestions from the Atriots (not me -- what do I know about socializing? -- ask me about the rubrics)
res ipsa --
Wolcott link didn't work -- same hting happened to me when I tried to send a Wolcott link to someone the other day -- the site was good but the link was blank -- I sent the site url & said, "scroll down to..." -- maybe it is just my machine...
Prior Aelred |
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10.22.05 - 3:59 pm | #
Sounds like a good game of Calvinball to me. Bringing democraticy and the flowers and cheap wi-fi were not the reasons we went to Iraq.
WMDs? Remeber? Packer seems to have forgotten that and like the neo-cons is rewriting history; tis better to be noble and clueless rather then a sucker.
Galactic Dustbin |
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10.22.05 - 4:00 pm | #
A modest proposal:
We follow ql's advice and be kind to our friends and acquaintances who supported this crap and now repent. We need them.
We follow Tena's advice from the other day re: plame: that the Democrats should keep rather quiet and let the admin hang itself. But with the caveat that we are referring to the offical Democratic Party response.
We pound hard on Kerry, Hillary, Biden, Lieberass, and the rest until they repent loudly and publically. They need to be shamed into calling for impeachment and holding bush accountable. Why won't they do their damned jobs?
ErinPDX |
10.22.05 - 4:00 pm | #
Thanks GWPDA. I hope WalterNeff is okay, even if he doesn't want to post here anymore. He is one special person.
mer |
10.22.05 - 4:00 pm | #
The MSM did it's usual character assassination work for the Goopers regarding Howard Dean's so called "outburst," which they played endlessly and spun as a man "out of control," when in fact he was simply trying to rouse his troops after a primary defeat.
The people there didn't hear it as it was replayed because of all the background noise.
From Calame's Miller article (thanks for linking, Excessive Bastard):
"One ethical problem emerged when Patrick Fitzgerald, the special prosecutor, asked Ms. Miller if she had pursued an article about Valerie Plame, the C.I.A. operative, or her husband, Joseph C. Wilson IV. Ms. Miller said in an interview for the retrospective that she "made a strong recommendation to my editor" that a story be pursued. "I was told no."
But Jill Abramson, now a managing editor and the Washington bureau chief in 2003, would have known about such a request. Ms. Abramson, to whom Ms. Miller reported, strongly asserted to me that Ms. Miller never asked to pursue an article about the operative. Ms. Abramson said that she did not recall Ms. Miller ever mentioning the confidential conversations she had with I. Lewis Libby, the vice president's chief of staff, who appears to be in the middle of the leak investigation. When I asked her, Ms. Miller declined to identify the editor she dealt with.
If Ms. Abramson is to be believed, and I do believe her, this raises clear issues of trust and credibility. It also means that because Ms. Miller didn't let an editor know what she knew, Times readers were deprived of a potentially exclusive look into an apparent administration effort to undercut Mr. Wilson and other critics of the Iraq war."
Shorter Calame: Judith Miller was proved fucking LIAR!
Louis Lapham had an excellent analysis in Harper's Magazine about a year ago about the Scaife machinations and the vast rightwingnut conspiracy that sought the takeover of the Media and was instrumental in the constant smearing of Clinton from the inane "Whitewater" to Travelgate anon.....
Rudy |
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10.22.05 - 4:01 pm | #
The MSM did it's usual character assassination work for the Goopers regarding Howard Dean's so called "outburst," which they played endlessly and spun as a man "out of control," when in fact he was simply trying to rouse his troops after a primary defeat.
The MSM did the same thing with the swiftboating of Kerry, as they regurgitated the lies of the Swiftboat whores.
This is why the dems, through Dean, need to start hammering on the press the way the repubs have done for the last 15 years, while it is still fresh in their memories. If the dems start asking hard questions from the press, e.g. "everybody was ridculing me while they were being misled b y Judy Miller", the dems will be in a better positions going into the '06 elctions-when the press will try the same shit.
Live Free or Die |
10.22.05 - 4:02 pm | #
We pound hard on Kerry, Hillary, Biden, Lieberass, and the rest until they repent
loudly and publically. They need to be shamed into calling for impeachment and
holding bush accountable. Why won't they do their damned jobs?
ErinPDX | 10.22.05 - 4:00 pm | #
I've been saying this for the last
couple of weeks, but I feel behooved
to repeat it:
Regardless of who the
Dem candidate is in 2008,
if both Clintons aren't unambiguously
against the war, we will lose.
steve simels |
10.22.05 - 4:03 pm | #
NTodd, I'm listening to your podcast and so far there is no you. It keeps stopping and then when I press play again it goes to another excerpt of Rush or music. It's about halfway through.
ql in ny |
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10.22.05 - 4:03 pm | #
I suspect that Live Free or Die (who I hope is from New Hampshire) is reporting from the Judy^3 school of journalismess
Prior Aelred |
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10.22.05 - 4:03 pm | #
Well, asking if I've actually watched Dumb and Dumber is pretty insulting in its own right.
Sorry, I was just checking. I never want to assume anybody is as low-brow as I...
NTodd the pw3ned |
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10.22.05 - 4:04 pm | #
NYT has new article up on Scooter-Powell/CIA feuds.
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10.22.05 - 4:04 pm | #
NTodd, I'm listening to your podcast and so far there is no you. It keeps stopping and then when I press play again it goes to another excerpt of Rush or music. It's about halfway through.
Yes, all part of my clever design. Oooh, I'm so clever.
Oh, I should note that the stopping isn't part of the design. That's just an issue with listening whilst downloading.
NTodd the pw3ned |
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10.22.05 - 4:05 pm | #
The DEAN SCREAM
The television crews recording the event plug into an audio source picking up Dean's microphone, not the sound of the room. The cameras focus in to a tight shot of the candidate, not the rest of the room.
What you are not hearing is a room with thousands of people screaming and cheering.
What you are not seeing are hundreds upon hundreds of American flags waving.
What you are not hearing are members of the audience shouting out state names urging Dean to list more.
What you are not seeing is the way Dean's supporters were lifted out of their slump by the speech.
I can't get to my blog at all, just a blank page. Several people here tried and got the same thing. Then somebody else said they went and had no problem. I can post entries, but when I reload, it is blank again. Eventually, I'm sure everything will get worked out.
ql in ny |
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10.22.05 - 4:05 pm | #
Good lord...a New York Times
reporter was working for the
administration?
How in God's name could that
be possible?
steve simels |
10.22.05 - 4:06 pm | #
"Sorry, I was just checking. I never want to assume anybody is as low-brow as I..." -- NTodd the pw3ned
Marshall McLuhan once said, "The media is the message."
And when the media reflects groveling before the Goopers, while covering up for their lies, the people get the message that people like Bushboy deserve respect, when instead they deserve condemnation and they also get the message that Bushboy & the Goopers know what they're doing, when all evidence is to the contrary!
If and when we ever get out from under the Gooper/fascist jackboots the MSM has a lot to answer for!
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10.22.05 - 4:09 pm | #
Mr. Keller acknowledged to me last week that his tendency to act slowly in response to criticisms about prewar coverage might have contributed to the dismay among readers and in the newsroom with the way The Times dealt with protecting Ms. Miller's confidential sources in the leak investigation.
No, mr dumbfuck NYT "ombudsman," it contributed to 2000 dead US servicemembers, *literally* uncounted thousands of Iraqi dead, the debasement of the US political process and the handing over of the government to the BushCo organized crime family in seeming perpetuity.
But nice to see that as "the reader's representative" you've got your priorities in order.
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10.22.05 - 4:09 pm | #
res ipsa --
checked out the Wolcott -- I hope he is right that Scooter isn't willing to be the fall guy
Rudy --
was at your blog & was going to leave a comment but I can't since there is no non-Blogger option -- let me point out here that your Republican questionnaire sounds like a parody of a push poll
What does the future hold for Ms. Miller? She told me Thursday that she hopes to return to the paper after taking some time off. Mr. Sulzberger offered this measured response: "She and I have acknowledged that there are new limits on what she can do next." It seems to me that whatever the limits put on her, the problems facing her inside and outside the newsroom will make it difficult for her to return to the paper as a reporter.--Byran Calame, NYTimes Public Editor
I know somebody named Owen.
NTodd the pwn3d |
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10.22.05 - 4:12 pm | #
I think now is the time to start destroying the "conservative" brand the way they have destroyed "liberal."
"Unpopular conservative president, George W. Bush."
"Conservative leader Tom DeLay began serving his jail term today..."
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10.22.05 - 4:12 pm | #
ql in ny, I just clicked on your homepage, came up blank. When I hit the reload button, it appeared. I don't know what this means, except you are still there.
mer |
10.22.05 - 4:12 pm | #
I don't know if it has been discussed yet, but while Tom DeLay was bitching about a Judge having donated to MoveOn, he was flying to Texas in R.J. Reynold's corporate jet.
Oh yes, but see, MoveOn was allegedly selling t-shirts with DeLay's mugshot on them. 'cept it wasn't them. And I don't know what the hell that has to do with the judge anyway.
Now if you'll excuse me, I've got to cash in my Marlboro Man Points so I can get that leather jacket with the RJR logo on it...
NTodd the pwn3d |
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10.22.05 - 4:14 pm | #
Shit, Philip Morris owns Marlboro. I am SO cut off...
NTodd the pwn3d |
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10.22.05 - 4:15 pm | #
"I know somebody named Owen."
--NTodd the pwn3d
I do too. My Owen was not a pleasant experience.
Then there is always Owen Meany.
mer |
10.22.05 - 4:15 pm | #
That great Canadian actually said, "The medium is the message" which is the reason why people say things like, "I liked the book better."
ql in ny --
odd -- I had no problem -- I thought about leaving a comment, but I figured either you would see it or there was no problem -- like the church secretary who included in the regular mailing, "Please let us know if you are not getting a copy of the bulletin."
Prior Aelred |
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10.22.05 - 4:15 pm | #
So much for putting the lawn movers away for the season. I was proved fucking right. Gonna have to mow again.
ErinPDX |
10.22.05 - 4:15 pm | #
Prior:
I love Lapham. He's in that tiny pantheon of perceptive and brave people who actually deserve to be called JOURNALISTS!!!!
The television crews recording the event plug into an audio source picking up Dean's microphone, not the sound of the room. The cameras focus in to a tight shot of the candidate, not the rest of the room.
What you are not hearing is a room with thousands of people screaming and cheering.
What you are not seeing are hundreds upon hundreds of American flags waving.
agave,
Like I said dude, Dena needs to hammer on these guys, and make them cry uncle. He has all the quotes. The media needs to be softened up NOW, so that when in '06 the dems come with their contract with america-it will not be ridiculed by the media.
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10.22.05 - 4:16 pm | #
ql in ny, I just clicked on your homepage, came up blank. When I hit the reload button, it appeared. I don't know what this means, except you are still there.
Weird: I can get into individual posts that were in my history, but not the front page. A template issue?
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10.22.05 - 4:17 pm | #
I do too. My Owen was not a pleasant experience.
Sorry.
My Owen was cool.
NTodd the pwn3d |
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10.22.05 - 4:18 pm | #
but I feel behooved
to repeat it:
Now that I think of it, that's
a really odd phrase.
Behooved.
It sounds like I've had hooves
surgically grafted onto me.
Of course, there's always "forewarned
is forearmed."
I'd look really weird with four
arms.
steve simels |
10.22.05 - 4:19 pm | #
The MSM did it's usual character assassination work for the Goopers regarding Howard Dean's so called "outburst," which they played endlessly and spun as a man "out of control," when in fact he was simply trying to rouse his troops after a primary defeat.
Because someone showing emotion during a speech, after all, is SO much worse than sounding thousands to their death in an illegal war and trashing civil liberties to please fundie nuts.
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat |
10.22.05 - 4:20 pm | #
The Laphams and Krugmans are the Edward R. Murrows of today.
Rudy |
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I'd look really weird with four
arms.
You could put the extra arms under your screwtop...
NTodd the pwn3d |
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10.22.05 - 4:22 pm | #
I don't know if it has been discussed yet, but while Tom DeLay was bitching about a Judge having donated to MoveOn, he was flying to Texas in R.J. Reynold's corporate jet.
Delay is psychotic. Nothing shames him. He really thinks he is going to get away with it. I have to give him props , though, for having he ability to hold that psychotic smile for over 40 min.
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10.22.05 - 4:22 pm | #
I think now is the time to start destroying the "conservative" brand the way they have destroyed "liberal."
Well, the last 5 years have proven to us what a sham conservatism is. This is their government, and it is an unmitigated failure.
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10.22.05 - 4:22 pm | #
Brady Quinn must be a Brady clone.
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10.22.05 - 4:28 pm | #
Interesting - just got my mail and found one of my credit cards had increased my credit limit considerably, utterly unprovoked by me. Why it's almost as though they're inviting me to borrow money from them.
Hmm, I wonder what law could possibly have gone into effect this week to encourage such largesse on their part? Wankers.
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10.22.05 - 4:28 pm | #
ErinPDX - We pound hard on Kerry, Hillary, Biden, Lieberass, and the rest until they repent loudly and publically
I agree. Kerry fucked up, Hillary fucked up, Biden fucked up (but really, what else is new there? Biden is such a whore; total lost cause IMO) I think they should publicly say they fucked up by supporting the war.
I don't think they could have stopped the war. But you know, if the liberals against the war hadn't been drowned out by the liberal hawks, who did their best to make us look like ninnies in the process, the Democrats might have been more willing to take a stand. I don't think they thought anyone would support them if they were against it. That's not a good reason to roll over, but it is understandable. They are just politicians. The pundits don't have that excuse, and they were helpful to the Democrats who decided to support the murderous enterprise.
GWPDA - I'm missing something - why doesn't WalterNeff want to post here anymore?
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10.22.05 - 4:28 pm | #
Screw ND. THey get preferential treatment on TV even when they are losers.
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10.22.05 - 4:30 pm | #
GWPDA - I'm missing something - why doesn't WalterNeff want to post here anymore?
Oh Tena, we don't know that at all. Only that the WalterNeff I found was not in fact Our WalterNeff. So we know nothing more today than we did yesterday. Mer's just sad 'cause she thinks WalterNeff doesn't love us. I keep saying we don't know anything at all!
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10.22.05 - 4:31 pm | #
Tena --
I forwarded a petition asking the Dems to admit that they were wrong to support the war & DAS pointed out that Americans don't like epople who admit they were wrong -- he may well be right -- see THIS MODERN PORLD
Thanks for the link to Calame's column, Excessive B.
Regardless of the what happens with the indictments, one excellent outcome that we can celebrate is that Judith Miller's career has completely self-destructed. And the NYT, with slime all over itself, may yet boot Keller and possibly even Sulzberger out onto the street.
Why does disagreeing make him a wanker? Shame on you.
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10.22.05 - 5:01 pm | #
GWPDA - Thanks. I just didn't know from the few comments what exactly was going on.
I'm not drawing any conclusions at all about WalterNeff right now.
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10.22.05 - 5:01 pm | #
Prior - I actually couldn't disagree more. I think Americans will accept it when people admit mistakes. It's only Commander CooCoo Bananas and the other who have his mental illness who think something is wrong with that.
I think Americans will respond to candor, but that doesn't meant that you have to be apologetic. There are ways to admit fault that don't sound weak.
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10.22.05 - 5:04 pm | #
Tena, like Richard Cohen.
The few who didn't abandon us got little air time.
So many of them are based out of DC and NY that maybe they inhaled some sort of fear gas that made them crazy?
ErinPDX |
10.22.05 - 5:05 pm | #
WMDs? Remeber? Packer seems to have forgotten that and like the neo-cons is rewriting history; tis better to be noble and clueless rather then a sucker.
Cmdr. Cuckoo Bananas and crew don't admit mistakes because, in their black & white world, to admit they are wrong is to admit the Democrats are right about something. And that is something they will never, ever do.
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10.22.05 - 5:15 pm | #
Prior A: Thanks for the Tom Tomorrow link, I shamelessly stole it for correntewire. Well, the link anyway cuz I haven't figured out how to post pix at the new place yet and Working for Change always deserves some extra hits anyway.
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10.22.05 - 5:19 pm | #
That great Canadian actually said, "The medium is the message" which is the reason why people say things like, "I liked the book better."
The media is the mensonge.
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10.22.05 - 5:31 pm | #
Oh, for God's sake, people. He thought the wrong thoughts past some imaginary expiration date? Is that it? And now he's the same as Lieberman?
Yes, that's exactly what I mean. They both spout the same absurd excuses for backing this stupid war with the same grating condescension. Joe is more sanctimonious, Matt is more pretentious.
So Matt is now choking on his own vomit, and we should kiss and make up? Fuck that. The stench is going to linger on his breath for a long time.
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10.22.05 - 5:34 pm | #
I love Lapham. He's in that tiny pantheon of perceptive and brave people who actually deserve to be called JOURNALISTS!!!!
Lapham is a laughingstock.
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10.22.05 - 6:04 pm | #
The paranoid-reductionist formula goes like this: People connected by money, greed, and ideology are building institutions to foist their self-centered agendas—and corrupt ideas—on the easily hoodwinked masses. These people are so unscrupulous and cunning that they're willing to present the most outrageous untruths as fact. The Republican message machine, Stein tells Lapham (and the New York Times Magazine in the same words), is "perhaps the most potent, independent institutionalized apparatus ever assembled in a democracy to promote one belief system."
come to think of it, this also chracterises perfectly the eschaton mindset.
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10.22.05 - 6:08 pm | #
What does the future hold for Ms. Miller? She told me Thursday that she hopes to return to the paper after taking some time off. Mr. Sulzberger offered this measured response: "She and I have acknowledged that there are new limits on what she can do next." It seems to me that whatever the limits put on her, the problems facing her inside and outside the newsroom will make it difficult for her to return to the paper as a reporter.--Byran Calame, NYTimes Public Editor
Wow. Heavy, man.
jawbone - 4:12 pm
They're giving her Keller's job! Didn't see that coming.
Little Brøther |
10.22.05 - 6:52 pm | #
i was looking through this guy's autobio the other day: blood of liberals.
smacks of a self-loathing liberal. where do these people come from?
jello |
10.22.05 - 8:42 pm | #
They're giving her Keller's job! Didn't see that coming.
Little Brøther |
anybody else would have been fired. what, does she have blackmail material on sulzberger? claims that she's really a covert intel agent looks more and more plausible everyday. but then again, maybe she's just a whore.
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