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GravatarSeconde!
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GravatarWhy is my keyboard all FU?
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GravatarBut -- but Atrios!

It's OK to Lie, Smear, and Wallow in the Mud -- IF You're a Republican!


GravatarThis thread.... is clean!!


GravatarYeah, but lying is back off the table as a discussable offense. Funny how that happens just when it's becoming clear that every word Bush, Cheney,
Rove, and the NYT have said is a lie, including "and" and "the," isn't it???


GravatarLook, this sex stuff is IMPORTANT, not like that trivial bullshit about like who told what lies that led to what war.


GravatarNo, I have never had sex. I have never thought about having sex. No one in my family has ever had sex.


GravatarRedneck Ring around the country

Bill in congress to block off Southern Border of the US.


GravatarI was downstairs trying to be relevant for once, and then I get the sheets pulled out from under me.

OK.

So what do the Republicans have at this point?

Consider:

1. A war going badly
2. Inept response to natural disasters
3. Free spending of monumental proportions
4. A tax "plan" that proposes to take away the middle class' two main breaks
5. A war going very badly
6. A dead Social Security plan
7. A House majority leader under indictment
8. A Senate majority leader under investigation for insider trading
9. A top White House aide under indictment for perjuring himself about whether he revealed the name of a covert agent.
10 A second top White House aide under investigation for the same

I don't get it. What will the Republicans really be able to offer America in 2006? That they're not liberal?


GravatarIt won't matter in the end. Corzine by at least 5 points.


GravatarDrudge fulfills a very useful function for the right--he prints the salacious stuff, and then other outlets get around the whole "we shouldn't report this" by not reporting on the allegation itself, but reporting on Drudge's reporting of the allegation. So they end up printing dirt, but claim to only be reporting on other members of the media.

I'm sure to this day you could find members of the media who would say "hey, we didn't report that Kerry had an affair--we just reported that Drudge was claiming he had an affair." Of course it's all bullshit because the casual observer only hears that Kerry might have had an affair.


GravatarIt's only about the sex or the lying when it comes to Democrats.

The past year, I've learned that it doesn't matter when Republicans have known male prostitutes in the White House on clandestine overnight visits...Gannon deserves his privacy!

I've also learned that lying a country into war doesn't matter...it was the right thing to do anyway!

The Republicans have found some truly scumass candidates for governor this year. Between this and Kilgore's disgusting ads against Kaine in VA...what a bunch of slimeball hacks.


GravatarRepost from below
What will the Republicans really be able to offer America in 2006?
Intelligent design, bird flu, gay marriage, activist judges, illegal immigration....


GravatarI don't get it. What will the Republicans really be able to offer America in 2006? That they're not liberal?

Easy, they are resolute.


Gravatar Look, this sex stuff is IMPORTANT, not like that trivial bullshit about like who told what lies that led to what war.

That whole 'war' story is just a liberal smear against our mighty and forthright Commander in Chief, who's been spreading democracy and profits across the land.


GravatarEwwww, Drugde. Yuck.


Gravatar“The press is interested right now in personal conduct...


lalalalalala


GravatarRedneck Ring around the country

Bill in congress to block off Southern Border of the US.
doug, w tumbrels & guillotines


"Can't we just wall of Texas?"
-Jack Cafferty on Wednesday


GravatarI don't get it. What will the Republicans really be able to offer America in 2006? That they're not liberal?

You don't think that'll be enough?

Look! Immigrant gay marriage!!!


GravatarOne wishes Americans would find it within themselves to GROW THE FUCK UP ABOUT SEX. Because when you hurt yourselves, one will laugh.

Just sayin'


GravatarSmitty-
Don't forget the new Republican plan to eliminate mortgage interest as a tax deduction.

That oughta make some heads explode.


GravatarThat they're not liberal

Sadly, that seems to have worked pretty well for the past 25 years or so.


GravatarWall off

I hate it when I mess up a punch line.


GravatarNobody who wants to run for office should ever have sex, not even by accident.

If the fundies are so numerous, why are liquor, gambling, prostitution, smoking and doctor shopping so popular? If we elimated these the economy would grind to a halt.


GravatarLook! Immigrant gay marriage!!!

And..and... taxes!!!


GravatarI don't get it. What will the Republicans really be able to offer America in 2006? That they're not liberal?


They'll bring honor and dignity back to the Oval Office. Surely that's worth giving up all our civil rights for, losing the home mortgage interest exemption for, having our water poisoned, and going back to Gilhead???


GravatarWell, as long as the Dems won’t fight back, this will continue.

It should have been the Dems out their on the news shows hounding Hyde and his pals for his hypocrisy.

I really do believe that if Bush pardons Libby, the Dems will just sit there, and not point out that Ford Pardoned Nixon, and Bush 1 pardoned Iran contra, and that the Chimp pardoning Libby is just the same old Republican corruption.


GravatarWhen David Brooks, on Friday's "The Newshour with Jim Lehrer", described Shield's description of how Bush & Co. lied us into Iraq as "McCarthyism", I nearly threw a beer bottle at the TV. This is the same David Brooks who "satirized", at some length on the Op-Ed page of the New York Times, Harry Reid as a tinfoil-hat wearing paranoic ("The Harry da Reid Code".)

Brooks calls Reid delusional, that's fine. Shields calls Bush a liar, that's McCarthyism.

Now that's fair and balanced. And remember, this was on PBS.


GravatarForrester lives a couple of doors away from the most annoying coworker I have ever had. She is under the delusion that if he's elected she'll get some nice government "appointment". She'd be NJ's very own Michael Brown.

So dumb that 10 years out of law school she has apparently never prepared a motion, and she ran around one afternoon trying to figure out what she'd have to file to "squash" a subpoena.

Alas, no, she wasn't kidding.


GravatarI know capitol hill blue is not the most reliable, but this story was funny:

Bush, however, has dug his heels in on Rove. When a GOP strategist suggested last weekend that the President fire Rove, Bush exploded.

"You go to hell," he screamed at the strategist. "You can leave and you can take the rest of these lily-livered motherfuckers with you!" The President then stormed out of the room and refused to meet further with any other party leaders or strategists.


http://www.capitolhillblue.com/ a...icle_7617.shtml


GravatarPheonix Woman got there first, it is only Democrats who are smeared with sex scandals. Ronald Reagan was almost certainly a rapist, Old George Bush an adulterer, young George Bush has even more of a history.

It is TV that drives most of it, everything from FOX to C-SPAN. Brian Lamb's fraudulant operation was one of the big Drudge promoters during the Clinton years.

I sort of wish we could go back to when they couldn't say hell or show a double bed on TV.


GravatarNobody who wants to run for office should ever have sex, not even by accident...- Arabella

Not even by accident? As in, I just happened to fall on that thing?


GravatarIs sally back ready to bash Democrats? The cliche' is becoming so nice.


GravatarNow that's fair and balanced. And remember, this was on PBS.
David Derbes

PBS is as much a fraud as FOX. Dump it. Dump NPR along with it.


Gravatarshe ran around one afternoon trying to figure out what she'd have to file to "squash" a subpoena.

I think that might involve brown sugar and butter, but I'm not sure.


GravatarThis is all entirely out of hand. It degrades the whole culture to constantly delve into people's private lives like this. Fucking Rupert Murdoch - he has turned everything into Page 3. And the religious right eats it up! Loves it. Jumps into it with both feet and runs around in it.

We aren't all so much Larry Flynt now as we are Jim and Tammy Bakker.


GravatarThank god. I've been trying to get on for the last hour.

My husband was raised in France, and he is continually amazed at how simultaneously obsessed and repulsed with sex this country is.


GravatarBush twins carry on with cigarettes and long neck beers in there hands and that's OK. It's not a rumor, don't try that excuse. There a photographs.

There are no photos of either girl having sex, so let it pass.


GravatarI say this to New Jersey Republicans:
Keep pussy out of Tuesday's election.
It unsettles my morals.


GravatarThe President then stormed out of the room and refused to meet further with any other party leaders or strategists.

I wish it was true, if the chimp had a total meltdown, then the executive branch would not cluster fuck up anything else.

There nothing that can't be made worse by having a chimp touch it.


GravatarWhere is our good friend,Larry Flynt, when we need him?


Gravatarlily-livered motherfuckers with you!" The President then stormed out of the room

who you callin' lily-livered - yella bellie? (see viet-nam, cindy sheeehan, and AA)


GravatarDavid Brooks really got it backwards, didn't he? I supposse there are conservatives in the administration too incompetent or too ideologically driven to read intelligence materials correctly, but it's become obvious that the Niger/Iraq story and several others are sheer fabrications. Perhaps Brooks should remember that McCarthy would wave a piece of paper claiming he had names and it was all nonsense.

When it came to aluminum tubes and the Niger/Iraq claims, it was the Bush administration that was playing the McCarthyite fear game and waving false documents.


GravatarI almost like how the Republicans have set themselves up on the moral pedestal. It is so much easier to knock them down that way.


GravatarThere are no photos of either girl having sex, so let it pass.

Yet.


Gravatar1st - Who else is afraid to refresh and lose blogger.

2d - Sometimes I think people are catching and that this kind of thing just isn't going to work anymore. Other times not. Who the fuck knows. As Clinton said in Austin, they will keep on with these ugly, divisive tactics as long as they work. And dems can't sit by saying please, be nice to me. Hasn't worked yet, and isn't gonna work now.

And just for good measure, now Kerry believes the election was stolen. Bob Shrum advised him not to put up too much of a fight at the time because Kerry would've beeen tagged as a sore loser. Apparently Edwards wanted to fight. So Kerry didn't fight because he was afraid of being called names, and Gore didn't fight for the good of the country.

Certainly has done us a lot of fucking good.

Fuckers.


GravatarAnd the religious right eats it up! Loves it. Jumps into it with both feet and runs around in it.

Well, of course. They have to have something to think about during their bouts of hushed, missionary style 2 minute lovemaking sessions.


Gravatarsimultaneously obsessed and repulsed with sex this country is.
TJ


Isn't Fetish a French word?


GravatarTena,

I agree. The Puritans didn't do us any favors when they made pleasure such a big scary no-no. Americans are more juvenile about sex, and thus, more sex-obsessed than almost any other Western culture. Good grief. People have sex. Always have. Always will. If they don't scare the horses in the street, why should the rest of us care what other people are doing with their errogenous zones??? It affects me far, far less than when the president lies the country into a war.


GravatarThere are no photos of either girl having sex, so let it pass.

I'm working on it! Patience.


GravatarBill in congress to block off Southern Border of the US.
doug, w tumbrels & guillotines


That's funny coming from someone who lives in Montana.

Can't tell me you don't have rednecks in Montana.


GravatarMore funnies from the capital hill blue site:

The war erupted into full-blown shout fests at Camp David this past weekend where decorum broke down in staff meetings and longtime aides threatened to quit unless Rove goes. Insiders say Chief of Staff Andrew Card now leads the anti-Rove legions and has told Bush that he wants out of the high-pressure job.

White House staff members say the White House is “like a wartime bunker” where shell-shocked aides hide from those who disagree with their actions and office pools speculate on how long certain senior aides will last.

Bush, whose obscenity-laced temper tantrums increase with each new setback and scandal, abruptly ended one Camp David meeting by telling everyone in the room to “go fuck yourselves” before he stalked out of the room.

Senior aides describe Bush as increasingly “edgy” or “nervous” or “unfocused.” They say the President goes from apparent coherent thought one moment to aimless rambles about political enemies and those who are “out to get me.”


GravatarFetish, can be a good thing with two consenting adults.


GravatarI almost like how the Republicans have set themselves up on the moral pedestal. It is so much easier to knock them down that way.

In theory, you'd think so. But they've had an absolutely staggering number of sex and corruption scandals, and it's only just *beginning* to sink in that the "G" in GOP does *not* stand for Galahad.


GravatarWhere is our good friend,Larry Flynt, when we need him?

He's playing draw poker in Gardena.


GravatarCan't tell me you don't have rednecks in Montana.

Oh, gawd, we've got the Montana Freemen, who are about as wacko as they come.

Plus Republicans, various shack churches, crazy back to the earth people with unsustainable plans. I could go on and on.


GravatarAnd just for good measure, now Kerry believes the election was stolen. Bob Shrum advised him not to put up too much of a fight at the time because Kerry would've beeen tagged as a sore loser. Apparently Edwards wanted to fight. So Kerry didn't fight because he was afraid of being called names, and Gore didn't fight for the good of the country.

Shrum. Must. Die.


That is all.


GravatarPheonix Woman got there first, it is only Democrats who are smeared with sex scandals. Ronald Reagan was almost certainly a rapist, Old George Bush an adulterer, young George Bush has even more of a history.

The hypocrisy is truly breathtaking. But, what is the explanation? If, as they say, sex sells, then surely it would sell just as well no matter which political party the adulterer belonged to. Short a conspiracy on the part of the media...oh. wait. never mind. I get it now.


GravatarIsn't Fetish a French word?

Just don't get fromage and frottage mixed up in a cheese shop.


GravatarShrum. Must. Die.


That is all.


He has to be a Republican plant. There's no other explanation. I'd love to see his financial records.


Gravatarit's only just *beginning* to sink in that the "G" in GOP does *not* stand for Galahad.

Well, that purest of pure knights did sleep with his best friend's wife....


GravatarKeep pussy out of Tuesday's election.
Clark Gobble | Email | 11.05.05 - 5:16 pm | #


But put it back in the Oval Office.


GravatarOK, so a different rant:
What is up with Bill Mahr? Recently, all the conservatives he has on the show are rude to the audience. They shout down the other guests. Last night Scarborough shouted down a woman, a past president of Ireland. And when the audience jeers said conservatives, Mahr shuushes the audience!!! WTF? Plus he stacks the guest lists with weenie liberals and overpowering loudmouth conservatives (I know, I know, are there any other kind??)


GravatarJust don't get fromage and frottage mixed up in a cheese shop.



GravatarSo glad Kerry has joined the reality-based. Only one year and three days too late.

Fuck him. Let him run in '08. I'll stay home if he's the candidate - might as well; they'll still count the votes their way, and he'll just go home quietly when they announce he's lost.


Gravatar2 words: Jeff Gannon


GravatarHe has to be a Republican plant. There's no other explanation. I'd love to see his financial records.

I agree. I hate him more than most Republicans.


Well, that purest of pure knights did sleep with his best friend's wife....

I thought that was Lancelot?


Gravatarql, non-penis American,

I was able to refresh and not lose blogger, although I did hesitate.


I don't have the time or inclination to compare and contrast the sex lives of Demos vs Repubs, but I'm sure they're comparable.


GravatarBut the Dems have to fight fire with fire. And then they have TO STAND THEIR GROUND.

Look how the rethugs hated it when Kerry pointed out that Cheney's daughter was gay. They got their knickers in a twist, but that is what you have to do.

Look what happened the other day when someone called Dick Morris on his visits to prostitutes. He shut up straight away. Morris has been out there spewing the right wing crap for years, and he needed to be taken down a peg or two.

All it needed was a few Dems to point out Dicks love of toe sucking.


GravatarBut the Dems have to fight fire with fire. And then they have TO STAND THEIR GROUND.

Look how the rethugs hated it when Kerry pointed out that Cheney's daughter was gay. They got their knickers in a twist, but that is what you have to do.

Look what happened the other day when someone called Dick Morris on his visits to prostitutes. He shut up straight away. Morris has been out there spewing the right wing crap for years, and he needed to be taken down a peg or two.

All it needed was a few Dems to point out Dicks love of toe sucking.


Gravatarshe ran around one afternoon trying to figure out what she'd have to file to "squash" a subpoena.

Easy, you just lay it down in the parking lot and back the pickup over it 2,3 times.


GravatarHecate - By making everything sensual into something totally sexual, the Puritans set the stage for almost 300 years of people seeing sex by way of double entendres. That has kept us at about 13, 14 years old in regard to the body, in cultural terms in America.

But what I'm talking about is the lack of politesse that runs through everything now. There used to be "gentlemen's agreements" about some things. That spawned abuses, I'm sure. But now that no such thing exists, we have this opposite abuse.

It's killing us - no one who isn't already crooked and used to this - like a jake leg televangelist - is going to want to run for office anymore.


GravatarI wouldn't advocate killing Shrum, but several patriots need to kidnap him and hold him incommunicado throughout the next election.


GravatarAlthough Shrum being a Republican plant *still* doesn't explain how he was allowed to fuck up, what, *eight* presidential campaigns?



At what point do you think it might, y'know, sink in that he's not very good?


GravatarIf everyone lived off the grid with shot guns at the ready the economy would collapse. If everyone lived like the Duggars locked together in a three bedroom house with their 16 children the economy would collapse.

The lunatics who want private citizens to pay for their won road-paving and garbage removal? If they had their way there would be mayhem.

I notice that Colorado voted to get rid of the restricions on public spending. I bet that the Duggars are living off the government in some way. The pave-your-road people are not denying themselves of municipal roads.

And nobody can have sex but there are all these kids running around. What a fucked up country,


GravatarGalahad was Lancelot's son, IIRC. Lancelot got it on with Guinevere.


GravatarAnd just for good measure, now Kerry believes the election was stolen. Bob Shrum advised him not to put up too much of a fight at the time because Kerry would've beeen tagged as a sore loser. Apparently Edwards wanted to fight. So Kerry didn't fight because he was afraid of being called names, and Gore didn't fight for the good of the country.

Shrum. Must. Die.


That is all.
Eli |


I knew it was over the day Kerry hired Shrum. Has he ever worked for anyone who actually won the election?


GravatarAt what point do you think it might, y'know, sink in that he's not very good?

I have no idea. He will always be one of the great unexplained mysterys of politics to me.


GravatarWe aren't all so much Larry Flynt now as we are Jim and Tammy Bakker.
Tena

oh man Tena always nails it. (wait that didn't come out right).

anyway i could give a fly'n fuck about sex unless it involves me, and it doesn't.

BoBo called mark sheilds a McCarthyite? i swear to god i'd like to rip some of these mutherfuckers heads off and piss down their necks.


GravatarI've been trying to find Krugman's "the emperor's new suit".

Which atriots blog posts Krugman's articles in full? Thought it was spork, but nothing there.


GravatarI knew it was over the day Kerry hired Shrum. Has he ever worked for anyone who actually won the election?

No.

Not preznitial, anyway. I think he engineered an upset in a Senate campaign once or something, and has been living off that ever since.


GravatarI wondered where everybody was. Had to go through the archives back door to find the thread.

Many of the rethugs don't look like they are likely to get laid without paying, so it offends them if anyone else does./snark

Actually I think it's mostly common hypocrisy on the right.


GravatarSex is natural, sex is good
Not everbody does it
But everybody shooooouuuuld

The Bard - George Michael


GravatarShrum. Must. Die.


That is all.


Mark Crispin Miller discussed this at the "Morning Sedition" live show on Friday AM. When he said that Kerry believed it was stolen, people started yelling, "Then why the hell didn't he fight?

Don't know if that came through over the radio.


Gravatarbob shrum got a comfy spot at nyu to train the next generation of 'how to get rich while losing' apparachiks. it worked for him.


GravatarI knew it was over the day Kerry hired Shrum. Has he ever worked for anyone who actually won the election?

Nope, never. Not once. I believe he's like 0 for 9.

Keep in mind Shrum was the guy who couldn't get Bob Casey, Jr.--the most popular politician in the state of PA, mind you--elected governor.

He was the guy who couldn't a legitimate war hero elected over a cowardly fuckup last November.

If he's not a Republican plant, then h e's some hideous science experiment gone horribly awry.


Gravatarres -- kerry's camp is denying miller's claim.


GravatarJust saw a "I'm a democrat and I'm for Bloomberg" commercial w/(among others) Magic JOhnson, Kathleen Turner, and Koch.


GravatarShrum has to be a double agent.


GravatarKeep pussy out of Tuesday's election.
Clark Gobble | Email | 11.05.05 - 5:16 pm | #

But put it back in the Oval Office.
Philip Marlowe


Yes please. Maybe if w were getting a few blow jobs, or playing around with cigars, he woouldn't need to be stratergizing new wars.


Gravatarchris/tx:

http://oconeedemocratsnews.blogs...ial- nudity.html

and for future reference, goto

http://www.technorati.com/search/krugman


Gravatarres -- kerry's camp is denying miller's claim.

bkny: I believe Miller.


Gravatar I've been trying to find Krugman's "the emperor's new suit".

Which atriots blog posts Krugman's articles in full? Thought it was spork, but nothing there.
chris/tx | 11.05.05 - 5:26 pm


It's here


Gravatar I've been trying to find Krugman's "the emperor's new suit".

Which atriots blog posts Krugman's articles in full? Thought it was spork, but nothing there.
chris/tx | 11.05.05 - 5:26 pm


It's here


GravatarAh, my bad. It is spork, just did not scroll down far enough.

http://sporkinthedrawer.blogspot...iday- usual.html


GravatarSenior aides describe Bush as increasingly “edgy” or “nervous” or “unfocused.”
Sounds like someone needs a little drinky-poo


GravatarYes please. Maybe if w were getting a few blow jobs, or playing around with cigars, he woouldn't need to be stratergizing new wars.

W having more sex will not help (look at Mao). W's problem is at the other end of his body.


GravatarThere's a section of the Krugman column quoted in the Media Matters column that Atrios linked to this morning
(10:11 AM thread)


GravatarWere the elections stolen? Or did they go to the ones who paid the most? It's an interesting free market question...

On the adultery, abortion... and so on statement of Atriot, we could make up a dictionary of allowed topics, starting with these and continuing with boobs, balls (withered)....


GravatarI opened a second Eschaton page and refreshed it a minute ago - no problem at all.

(that's how I avoid the non-access problem - it's simple, I just open a new window/page, see if it works. If not, I close it and I still have the working page. If that helps anyone.)


GravatarThe Republicans play off the need for people to have scapegoats. It's fun to hate Democrats, and it uses up energy that could be spent fighting for better health care etc. Every moron thinks he can be a millionaire. And don't forget, if you go to church every Sunday you can be forgiven for any sins you might have committed Monday through Saturday.

It's OK for Republicans because they're not the enemy godless Democrats. If a Republican strays it's not a problem because the blood of the lamb washes him as clean as snow.


GravatarI don't have the time or inclination to compare and contrast the sex lives of Demos vs Repubs, but I'm sure they're comparable.
mer


I'm willing to be good money that repukes are pre-mature ejaculators who don't give a rat's ass about satisfying their partners. Wham bam,thank yer ma'am.

Dems, on the other hand, tend to very considerate, patient people. Plus they play instruments that require their fingers to be strong and untiring.

Just saying.


GravatarSenior aides describe Bush as increasingly “edgy” or “nervous” or “unfocused.”
Sounds like someone needs a little drinky-poo


I'd sit down and have a beer with him.


If it would keep him out of the White House and making decisions that affect the nation.


GravatarW having more sex will not help (look at Mao). W's problem is at the other end of his body.

Mao had a lot of sex?


Gravatarbkny/JT - Thanks guys. I'll bookmark now so I don't have to ask again.


Gravatarres -- me too. and it again goes to show what a friggin jerk i was to think kerry had any integrity. what happened to the young man of 1970s


Gravatarres -- kerry's camp is denying miller's claim.

Kerry voted to say he said it, but then voted to say he didn't say it.


GravatarBoBo called mark sheilds a McCarthyite? i swear to god i'd like to rip some of these mutherfuckers heads off and piss down their necks.

If you need to blow off a bit of steam re Bobo, Driftglass takes him to the woodshed here.

Best comment over there re Bobo:

Clinton, no matter how much of a jizz-hydrant he was, wasn't stupid enough nor viagra-deprived enough to pull the trigger on Iraq.

And George Bush was.

Bobo, can you sort that out?


Laughed myself silly.


GravatarRepugs think affairs are important, most others don't ... that's why their's are the most fun to out.


GravatarAt what point do you think it might, y'know, sink in that he's not very good?
Eli


I really wish my clients were as understanding. Fuckers want results before they'll pay me or hire me back.

What's his secret, anyhoo?


GravatarBlogger was down for maintenance for two hours, so that is why there was nothing here.


GravatarShrum. Must. Die.


That is all.

Eli

i second that. didn't know much about shrum until i started seeing him show up aside his repuke "counterballance" on "hardnuts" he's awful. the opposition needs someone with balls, big balls, and intelligence. they are out there. i'm glad dean is the chairman, i wish he had more power.

really i wish i could just rip of some of these repuke mutherfuckers heads. i'm fed up. as an american, i repudiate this human trash, George Bush.


Gravatar
What's his secret, anyhoo?


No gag reflex?


GravatarMao had a lot of sex?
Withnail


Four wives and a lot of affairs!


GravatarUm, Arabella, who do you think pays for garbage removal? I got my bill for that and water/sewage fees a couple days ago, have to pay by the 15th.


GravatarW's problem is at the other end of his body

both ends, whats in between, and his soul, his mind, his person.

It's 100% chimp product.


GravatarDon't know how long I can stay -- Toshi-San is acting quite strangely... intermittant freakies. Apparently, letting the fan blow on it overnight didn't get all the water out! Right now, I've got an external keyboard plugged into the bitch.

To answer Rip's earlier question: I'm not working today, because the TQ schedule was Sun (Mon off), then Tue-Fri. Now I'm on my manager's schedule, and through the end of the year, that'll be 3p-midnight, Sun-Thu.
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GravatarI hope people are becoming aware that lying about sex is not as bad as lying about reasons for waging war.

They are certainly two different things. I'm sick to death of what is now deemed important in politics as human beings suffer because the focus is on bullshit. Stop the madness.


I'm watching Captain Newman, M.D. Haven't seen it in several years. Am in a lousy mood.


GravatarI'm willing to be good money that repukes are pre-mature ejaculators who don't give a rat's ass about satisfying their partners. Wham bam,thank yer ma'am.

I don't have a big enough sample to be scientific, but I've only been to bed with one repuke and he was the only guy I've ever been with who couldn't get it up. Was really prudish about sex.

That was the end of that non-relationship.


GravatarRedneck Ring around the country

Bill in congress to block off Southern Border of the US.
doug, w tumbrels & guillotines


How about if we moved all the Bush supporters into certain areas and then fenced that off?


Gravatar I hope people are becoming aware that lying about sex is not as bad as lying about reasons for waging war.

I dunno. No-one ever seems to have a problem with violence and killing in movies or on TV, but flash *one* nipple...


GravatarI hope people are becoming aware that lying about sex is not as bad as lying about reasons for waging war.

Don't bet the ranch on it. Not-Mister, his sister, and I had a knock-down-drag-out w/Not-Mister's B-I-L recently about this. The B-I-L thinks the lie about the blow job is waaaaaay worse than the lie about the war.

I'm serious.


GravatarSenior aides describe Bush as increasingly “edgy” or “nervous” or “unfocused.”
Ripley


"Chief, I can't hold her. She's breaking up! She's breaking up!"


GravatarI have never had a Republican in my bed, never. I may be bad but I'm not stupid.


GravatarIt won't matter in the end. Corzine by at least 5 points.
njpineygal |11.05.05 - 5:06 pm

Let it be so.


GravatarMy bad, Lancelot slept w/ Guennivere, not Galahad. Geez, getting old is hard work.


Gravatar• Tena, regarding a comment you posted prior to the service interruption: I like the term "threadlice".

• As far as the topic, it does really seem to be the case that sexual scandal-- or perhaps I should say sexual matters that can trigger a scandal-- are a clear indication of media bias.

As noted above, in recent years the media has ratcheted up coverage of salacious stuff by stovepiping half-baked stories from dubious fringe sources, then easing the story into mainstream media by allowing respectable institutions to report the story about sources are peddling half-baked stuff. The beauty part is that the half-baked stuff comes in during the process, thus reinforcing its legitimacy and permitting still more outlets to circulate the sleaze.

The media would have it that a story grows its own legs, and reporters follow. It generally denies that it has the capability to screw the legs on, or even build a Trojan Horse.

And I guarantee that no ombudsman, spokesperson, or investigation will ever meaningfully confront the question of how the major media built more Trojan Horses during the Clinton/Starr era, but can't even bring a Trojan Sparkle Pony to the Gannon case.


Gravatarres ipsa loquitur

thanx, i'll check it out, driftglass has a way with words. i of course was thinking of something a little more immediately visceral.

seriously, i think it's gonna take an argentinian style revolt. bush is not backing down, ever.

ethics classes, give me an f'n break.


GravatarIt's bad enough that Kerry didn't fight the election fraud in Ohio, it's his assuming the position during the whole Swift Boat thing that drove me insane. Whatever genius decided that it was better to not reply and say "These are lies, funded by BushCo." 24/7--fuck policy wonkiness--that should have been his campaign until they shut the fuck up. Instead, it dominated the news for a solid month.

Idiots.


GravatarHow about if we moved all the Bush supporters into certain areas and then fenced that off?

Don't move them here. We've got enough immigrants from the other Red States.
note, Montana used to be liberal, and not that long ago


GravatarBush is probably as lousy in the sack as he is at everything else.

MISERABLE FAILURE!


Gravatarthe opposition needs someone with balls, big balls, and intelligence. they are out there

the infuriating thing is, they are out there. have you ever seen rep maurice hinchey -- he's terrific. no bullshit, direct. i guess the reason he was so good is, since he's not a regular guest on tv, hasn't been coached to drabness by the dlc. check the lineup for tomorrow's program. i can tell you right now what the commentary is going to be.

if you really can stand it, read arianna's latest on how hillary's gonna sit tight, hoping all those dead americans will help boost her vote count. i really detest these people.


GravatarSenior aides describe Bush as increasingly “edgy” or “nervous” or “unfocused.”
Sounds like someone needs a little drinky-poo

I'd sit down and have a beer with him.

If it would keep him out of the White House and making decisions that affect the nation.
Ripley


Never let it be said that Atriots will not volunteer for unpleasant and probably dangerous missions.


GravatarI once had a republican mother-in-law. She was batshit crazy (actually she still is AFAIK).


GravatarI have never had a Republican in my bed, never. I may be bad but I'm not stupid.

I'm not stupid.

I was horny.


GravatarIt won't matter in the end. Corzine by at least 5 points.
njpineygal |11.05.05 - 5:06 pm

Let it be so.
jawbone


Story here in the local paper says Corzine's lead has widened.

A lot of people were really pissed off about the Repugs' bringing the guys' ex-wife into it.

And that bitch should be ashamed of herself!


Gravatarand whatever cellar we lock Shrum in for the duration, let's make sure to get Donna Brazille in there to keep him company.


GravatarIf you want to read the source, I've copied the whole thing here, Drudge doesn't deserve our hits.


GravatarIf you want to read the source, I've copied the whole thing here, Drudge doesn't deserve our hits.


Gravatarres ipsa loquitur: I was horny.

Was BOB unavailable...?


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GravatarSenior aides describe Bush as increasingly “edgy” or “nervous” or “unfocused.”
Sounds like someone needs a little drinky-poo

I'd sit down and have a beer with him.

If it would keep him out of the White House and making decisions that affect the nation.
Ripley



Friend of mine is a drug counselor.

Swears Chimpy is back on coke.


Gravatarres ipsa loquitur, sorry, didn't mean to insinuate anything there. That is what happens when I try to make a joke. Hangs head in despair and shame.


Gravatar I have never had a Republican in my bed, never. I may be bad but I'm not stupid.

We kind of wish you would, then strike them with a venomous bite.


GravatarWas BOB unavailable...?

I know I'm going to regret asking, but what is "BOB?"


GravatarDrudge doesn't deserve to breathe the same air as we do.


GravatarAnd I guarantee that no ombudsman, spokesperson, or investigation will ever meaningfully confront the question of how the major media built more Trojan Horses during the Clinton/Starr era, but can't even bring a Trojan Sparkle Pony to the Gannon case.
Little Brøther


Good one. Did you ever post under a different nom de blog?


Gravatarres ipsa loquitur: I know I'm going to regret asking, but what is "BOB?"

Battery-Operated Boyfriend.
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GravatarI love Mo Hinchey. I knew him back in the day. He helped a group of us save an ecologically sensitive property that is part of an historic district. (13 acres, 60 condos and a Greek Revival house destroyed.)

He was a State rep at the time. His office in Kingston was weloming and funky. He had a poster of Theodore Roosevelt on the wall. He should run for higher office. Mo's a man with moral fiber.


GravatarHangs head in despair and shame.

Okay, you are forgiven provided you do the following penance: write the following words on a piece of paper, fold it over once, and put it under the windshield wiper of the next parked SUV you encounter:

HE'S LYING.


GravatarI'm not stupid.

I was horny.



As guys use to tell me in foreign countries, it does not matter if you speak the language, because everyone understands one language.


GravatarI'm not stupid.

I was horny.


and then you were both horny and frustrated.


GravatarFriend of mine is a drug counselor.

Swears Chimpy is back on coke.


Who scores it for him, now that Guckert doesn't have a pass to the WH?


GravatarBattery-Operated Boyfriend.

No comment.


Gravatar"I'm not stupid.

I was horny.
res ipsa loquitur"

and no hot liberal guy was around?


GravatarThe B-I-L thinks the lie about the blow job is waaaaaay worse than the lie about the war.



What is he, fucking retarded?????????


Gravatarres ipsa - I wish you were kidding. Breaking marriage vows is worse than breaking international law and getting tens, maybe hundreds, of thousands of people killed? Your b-i-l needs a brain transplant; or maybe your sister could get a husbandectomy.


GravatarWho scores it for him, now that Guckert doesn't have a pass to the WH?
Hecate Malificent


Karl, perhaps?


Gravatarand whatever cellar we lock Shrum in for the duration, let's make sure to get Donna Brazille in there to keep him company.

You might as well include Carville in that group.


Gravatar"We're All Larry Flynt Now"

Can we get that on a Cafe Press t-shirt?


Gravatarres ipsa - what's the b i l's reasoning? What's his justification for believing that the one lie was more important?


GravatarOkay, you are forgiven provided you do the following penance: write the following words on a piece of paper, fold it over once, and put it under the windshield wiper of the next parked SUV you encounter:

HE'S LYING.


Done. Done. Done. Need to do all these three times.


GravatarOh, indeed - someone please shut James Carville up.

Please.


Gravatar res ipsa - what's the b i l's reasoning? What's his justification for believing that the one lie was more important?

Yes, I'm curious to hear how IOKIYAR is articulated.


GravatarWhat is he, fucking retarded?????????

Your b-i-l needs a brain transplant; or maybe your sister could get a husbandectomy.


He's actually Not-Mister's B-I-L. But yeah, he lives in bizarro-land. Comes from a family of super-Catholics. Maybe that's it. Not-Mister made us leave that night b/c he knows I can get really mean when people say this stupid shit.


GravatarOops, misreading. Not-Mister's sister & bro-i-l. Still needs a brain transplant.


GravatarA cellar large enough to contain every incompetent Democratic strategist would jeopardize Mammoth Cave's place in the Guinness Book.


GravatarI'd go so far as to say Montana was radical, not liberal.
I remember Jeannette Rankin and the Wobblies.


Gravatar"I hope people are becoming aware that lying about sex is not as bad as lying about reasons for waging war."

let's hope so....

although i think people that have affairs should be stigmatized...


GravatarArabella-

Mo Hinchey is a wonderful politician. I am unfortunately on the other side of the Hudson and stuck with Sweeney, a Ken doll who took some of Delay's $$$.


GravatarThe B-I-L thinks the lie about the blow job is waaaaaay worse than the lie about the war.

Your brother-in-law has obviously not suffered because of Bush's policies.

I got mine. Screw you.


GravatarDid you ever post under a different nom de blog?
ql, non-penis American - 5:43 pm


No, ql. Once in a long while I'll post with a fake handle, e.g. "Queen Victoria" commenting "we are not amused" yesterday.

But my trademark verbose personal maundering has generally been signed by Your Humble Narrator and servant: Little Brøther


GravatarHe's actually Not-Mister's B-I-L. But yeah, he lives in bizarro-land.

And a super-Catholic. An altar boy?

One of the lucky ones?


GravatarI have a blogwhore for the American Street. A little fairy tale on elections.


Gravatarres ipsa - what's the b i l's reasoning? What's his justification for believing that the one lie was more important?

I did try to elicit this information. He is not very articulate. He said something like, "The lie about the blow job is PERSONAL." The best I could make of his "logic" was that in his brain, it was worse to tell a lie that would hurt one's wife, kid, etc. than it was to tell one that would hurt millions of strangers.


Gravatar"I'm not stupid.

I was horny."
--res ipsa loquitur


To be honest, in my youth, I didn't ask. Hell, the subject never came up.


GravatarElections 2006?

To add a linky and so on.


GravatarThe best I could make of his "logic" was that in his brain, it was worse to tell a lie that would hurt one's wife, kid, etc. than it was to tell one that would hurt millions of strangers.

And there was a penis involved. Bill Clinton's penis!!


GravatarI'd go so far as to say Montana was radical, not liberal.
I remember Jeannette Rankin and the Wobblies.

Sen, Mike Mansfield - liberal
UMW - Pretty radical, during some of the labor disputes in Butte, explosives were used.


Gravatar Powerful Government Accounting Office report confirms key 2004 stolen election findings

As a legal noose appears to be tightening around the Bush/Cheney/Rove inner circle, a shocking government report shows the floor under the legitimacy of their alleged election to the White House is crumbling.

The latest critical confirmation of key indicators that the election of 2004 was stolen comes in an extremely powerful, penetrating report from the General Accounting Office that has gotten virtually no mainstream media coverage.

The full GAO report is available here:


GravatarThe SUV comment reminds me, last weekend in NJ I'm behind this Hummer H3. Looked brand new, right off the showroom floor. I heard of H2 but I didn't even know there was an H3. It's got a NJ Senate vanity plate, JP2. I'd love to know which idiot in the NJ Senate is driving it.


Gravatarand no hot liberal guy was around?

Not during that particular drought. I think I was kind of dazzled b/c he'd gone to Harvard Law School. That was before I went to law school and found out that Harvard doesn't even give grades, for crissakes.

He's probably still impotent.


GravatarLB - Your posts are generally worth reading, at least I think so. Keep them coming.


GravatarThe best I could make of his "logic" was that in his brain, it was worse to tell a lie that would hurt one's wife, kid, etc. than it was to tell one that would hurt millions of strangers.

Hell, given the Right's hatred of them, I would think anything that hurt "Hitlery" and Chelsea would be a *good* thing...


Gravatar Powerful Government Accounting Office report confirms key 2004 stolen election findings

Gee, that sounds like the kind of thing that might end up before the Supreme Court. Oh, right... nevermind...


GravatarHell, the subject never came up.
mer |


No shit.


GravatarWhat ever happened to the Larry Flint story about Dubya procuring an abortion for a coed he knocked up when he was a drunken student ?


GravatarYour brother-in-law has obviously not suffered because of Bush's policies.

The thing is, pie, he's a very middle class guy who has to do extra work beyond his 9-to-5 gig to make ends meet. Very average fellow: three bedroom house on 1/2-acre lot, 3 kids, mows his own lawn, plays a little golf when he can. Not out of the woods financially by any stretch of the imagination. I suspect that he's one of those, "As long as they don't give my tax dollars to negroes" types.


GravatarHe's probably still impotent.
res ipsa loquitur"

ouch!


Gravatarit was worse to tell a lie that would hurt one's wife, kid, etc. than it was to tell one that would hurt millions of strangers.

Jesus Christ! How many wives and children have been hurt far more because their loved ones are dead or maimed, physically, mentally, or both?

We can't let them get away with this shit!!


GravatarArabella -- he appeared on some program recently, and i admit i had no idea who he was. why in the hell aren't people like him out in front of the cameras more often is my question.


GravatarWhat ever happened to the Larry Flint story about Dubya procuring an abortion for a coed he knocked up when he was a drunken student ?

I think it was an underage maid or something, although I might be confusing him with Ol' Strom.

In any case, the woman refused to go public, and Flynt didn't have enough to go public without her.


GravatarWhen sex is outlawed, only outlaws will have sex.


GravatarDone. Done. Done. Need to do all these three times.

Okay, you're forgiven.

BTW, I'm not saying that I do that. Nope, no siree, not me, would never do anything like that.


Gravatarres ipsa - We can hope so. Leastways, if he's still a rethug.


GravatarRes Ipsa - the wingnut I sat next to on the plane finally went completely chameleon on a kilt crazy over Clinton and Monica. He started yelling "He Lied!" over and and over, and I finally shut him up by saying that the 16 words in the SOTU were a lie, too, and impeachable.

I do not for the life of me get what it is about Clinton and Monica that makes them so fucking nuts. Or nutsier, perhaps I should say.


Gravatar" I suspect that he's one of those, "As long as they don't give my tax dollars to negroes" types.
res ipsa loquitur"

got a friend in Nj just like that...a really nice guy otherwise...in the katrina aftermath he sent me an editorial by george will that basically placed the blame on the mess in NO on the 'welfare state'...reamed him good for that shit...


Gravatarouch!

Well, jdw, I certainly don't think it was me.

I gave it the old (not Harvard) college try. Believe me, I did.


GravatarThe thing is, pie, he's a very middle class guy who has to do extra work beyond his 9-to-5 gig to make ends meet. Very average fellow: three bedroom house on 1/2-acre lot, 3 kids, mows his own lawn, plays a little golf when he can. Not out of the woods financially by any stretch of the imagination. I suspect that he's one of those, "As long as they don't give my tax dollars to negroes" types.

I have relatives like this, too. It's as if they have closed whatever opening they once had to their heads, and nothing now gets through. Most of them have FOX on 24/7 and even though nobody really watches it it's in the background like some sort of a message from Dr. Mesmer.


GravatarWhen sex is outlawed, only outlaws will have sex.
Roddy McCorley

Then brand me an outlaw


GravatarTena ...

Did he STFU after you told him about the 16 words?

Good christ, imagine being trapped on one's aircraft w/such a maroon.


GravatarMulling over this while doing the eveneing chores, I wonder if the reason might be that Democrats have infintely more interesting sex lives than Republicans.

Who do you imagine has more "it", Bill Clinton or George W. Bush?


GravatarI do not for the life of me get what it is about Clinton and Monica that makes them so fucking nuts. Or nutsier, perhaps I should say.
Tena |



|Chris rock
Syas it because who would offer arlen specter a blowjob


GravatarSo are y'all saying there are no rednecks in Montana?

'Cause if that's what y'all are saying, all I can say is that makes it unique among mountain west states.


GravatarI suspect that he's one of those, "As long as they don't give my tax dollars to negroes" types.

Does he understand what's happening to health insurance and retirement benefits?

His tax dollars are going to Iraq, the dumb fuck. Or that bridge to nowhere in Alaska, or any number of stupid pork barrel crap.


GravatarThat use of the word "McCarthyism" in particular deserves a thorough going-over. What the hell is it imagined to mean? Real McCarthyism was a smaller American Bolshevism in which your thoughts were subject to review for loyalty to the most mudslinghappy and conservative standards, which even in the Clinton era would make the Rethugs the McCarthyites. The teeth of McCarthyism was the total social and employment shunning that ruined many lives; what danger were any Republicans in memory in, even a self-destructive moron like Lott, of poverty?


Gravatar"Well, jdw, I certainly don't think it was me.

I gave it the old (not Harvard) college try. Believe me, I did.
res ipsa loquitur"

i'm certain it wasn't you...i get wood just reading the posts of the women here...if i had 'em nekkid in the sack it would be like xmas...


GravatarI thought Flynt had been replaced with a Beelzebublican clone, who was now just holding pat.
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GravatarDon't forget those cowboys. Cowboys are real welfare queens. And I do mean queens.


GravatarNot out of the woods financially by any stretch of the imagination. I suspect that he's one of those, "As long as they don't give my tax dollars to negroes" types.

I think some people take pride in the 'I'm not rich, I'm hard-working' attitude. They resent the wealthy, they resent the poor - hell, they resent everybody, frankly, as though They're the only people with 'real American work ethics and values'.

'There's welfare queens, Hollywood faggy liberal elitists, and then there's ME'. I don't get it...


GravatarWhen sex is outlawed, only outlaws will have sex.

I know that you're joking, but this really is the point. If they can find something you are going to do and make you feel guilty for doing it, they can control you.


GravatarI gave it the old (not Harvard) college try. Believe me, I did.

It's those damned orals!


Gravatar"Does he understand what's happening to health insurance and retirement benefits?

His tax dollars are going to Iraq, the dumb fuck. Or that bridge to nowhere in Alaska, or any number of stupid pork barrel crap.
pie"

I'm certain that when BC ran the first time, talking about welfare reform, it was to target yahoos just like this..asking them about stuff like massive corporate welfare and they just go blank....


GravatarDoes he understand what's happening to health insurance and retirement benefits?

When I bring stuff like this up he thinks I'm advocating socialism or something. He says, "These companies create jobs! The usual crap.

Once he was giving one of his "Danger! Danger! Danger!" speeches and I mentioned that cars were far more dangerous than any terra that might come to his little suburb and he started yelling, "Are you advocating that we give up CARS? You're talking about OUR ENTIRE WAY OF LIFE!"

I think he can only think one step at a time.


GravatarSo did they ever find out who JimmyJeff was cleared into the WH to service?


Gravatarres ipsa - it was on a flight from here to Seattle, too. That's not a short flight. He wanted to talk. I told where I was coming from.

He was momentarily halted in his onslaught when I brought up those 16 words. He didn't argue about it, for some reason.

I finally shut him down later. He started changing the subject to science fiction. Seems he was a fan - which I do not get. I finally asked him if he believed in evolution. He really didn't want to have to say it, but he finally stammered out that he believed the Bible was the literal truth. I looked at him in disgust and wouldn't talk to him anymore. He was not a stupid guy. He knows better, but he lies to himself and everyone else about it. Sucker.


GravatarThe teeth of McCarthyism was the total social and employment shunning that ruined many lives; what danger were any Republicans in memory in, even a self-destructive moron like Lott, of poverty?
kei & yuri

None. Like all other words, they can mean whatever the corporate state and their media whores choose for them to mean at any given time.

What is really funny is that this runs directly into the latest in the eternal series of attemtps of Republican-fascists to rehabilitate Joseph McCarthy (Much to my shame a distant relation, we never mention him in the family.)


Gravatar'Cause if that's what y'all are saying, all I can say is that makes it unique among mountain west states.

Tena Montana has it's own flavor of rednecks.


Gravatarjdw-TMI.


Gravatar'There's welfare queens, Hollywood faggy liberal elitists, and then there's ME'. I don't get it...

IMO it's the whole cult thing, wanting to feel part of something bigger than themselves. And of course the racism that is couched in "them people" or some such vernacular.


GravatarEEEEEEEEEK!

Karen HUGE is on CSPAN.

Don't turn it on! I beg of you.

(BTW >.. she appears to be wearing some sort of magenta colored faux-velvet tunic.)


Gravatarjdw-TMI.
spinoza"

three mile island?


GravatarDon't forget the new Republican plan to eliminate mortgage interest as a tax deduction.

Encompassed under no. 4, the other tax break being the employers' tax break for offering health insurance.

Yeah, I know that kind of does some screwy things to health care, but dammit, it's better than the alternative.


GravatarWhen sex is outlawed, only outlaws will have sex.

How does that old thing go?

If you would have fair nights and pleasant dinners,
You must dine with saints and bed with sinners.


GravatarThat use of the word "McCarthyism" in particular deserves a thorough going-over. What the hell is it imagined to mean? Real McCarthyism was a smaller American Bolshevism in which your thoughts were subject to review for loyalty to the most mudslinghappy and conservative standards, which even in the Clinton era would make the Rethugs the McCarthyites. The teeth of McCarthyism was the total social and employment shunning that ruined many lives; what danger were any Republicans in memory in, even a self-destructive moron like Lott, of poverty?

Well, they've also compared Democrats to Nazis.

They're basically just trolls, with a strategy of making statements so bald-facedly outrageous and batshit insane, that Democrats are either stunned into silence, or spluttering in incoherent rage, or just assume that the statement is so clearly nuts that it requires no rebuttal at all.


GravatarI think some people take pride in the 'I'm not rich, I'm hard-working' attitude. They resent the wealthy, they resent the poor - hell, they resent everybody, frankly, as though They're the only people with 'real American work ethics and values'

Ripley, I think you're right.


GravatarFriend of mine is a drug counselor.

Swears Chimpy is back on coke.
Terry C


FWIW, my dad has been an addict for about 20 years. I think Shrub's back on it, too. He's definitely on something, though, whether prescribed, alcoholic, or of the white lady variety.


GravatarHere's another question: When will the fundies wake up and realize they've been had?

Seriously: Tom DeLay "born again"?

And Ralph Reed? What a miserably corrupt toad that motherfucker turned out to be.

How 'bout Pat Robertson and some of his overseas business dealings? Christian? More like Stalin-like ...


GravatarThey have to shoot Bush up with horse tranquilizers.


GravatarI finally shut him down later. He started changing the subject to science fiction. Seems he was a fan - which I do not get.

What don't you get? I would think a love for science fiction would almost be a prerequisite for Republicanism...


GravatarWhat don't you get? I would think a love for science fiction would almost be a prerequisite for Republicanism...

Except for that science part...


GravatarDid anyone read the profile of Peter Viereck in the NYer about two weeks ago? It was called "The First Conservative."

(M)ann Coulter was quoted in it. She is quite the admirer of McCarthy. Said something about "angry ethnics like Joe McCarthy" making the "best Americans."

(The profile was very interesting, too.)


GravatarSince N-M's BIL is too incoherent or inarticulate to offer a developed flawed dumb-ass rationale, I'll help the poor bastard out.

He could have said, "Well, Clinton's lie was really wrong because it arose from a despicable personal failing and wantonly damaged the very fabric of his family life.

But Dubya lied because he knew that he needed to take out Saddam-- that man killed his daddy-- to keep all of us safe. And yeah, maybe he couldn't justify his reasons as clearly as we'd like, but I'm sure there are a whole hell of a lot of reasons more than we'll ever know.

He's the President, and we have to trust and support him when he's doing his job and fighting terrorism and evil. Ours not to reason why.

Anyway, right or wrong, Dubya lied for unselfish Presidential reasons, but Slick Willie lied for selfish petty personal reasons.

It don't matter what the consequences are-- how bad the lie is depends on when it was told, and the reasons it was told. People dying and such don't come into it. Dubya comes out way ahead on this score."

Print this out for the BIL or have him write it on his palm if he can't memorize it. It's a little long, I guess-- but you know me. It's foolproof; I made it up as I went along but it's clear that my trollshunning ideals haven't shielded me from getting their drift.


GravatarTena Montana has it's own flavor of rednecks.
doug, w tumbrels & guillotines


mesquite?


GravatarDon't forget the new Republican plan to eliminate mortgage interest as a tax deduction.

I'm in favor of it. I can't think of a measure that the Republican-fascists can take to hasten the explosion of the housing bubble, piss off the middle class, end the phony recovery and lead to a Republican blood bath at the polls.


Gravatarchameleon on a kilt crazy


Gravatarwhether prescribed, alcoholic, or of the white lady variety

My guess is that the chimp is being medicated by his WH doctors, and maybe getting into his stash occasionaly, when Laura hasn't flushed it down the toilet.


GravatarHey, looks like Toshi-San has achieved a semi-stable state.
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GravatarI was talking to this annoying wingnut the other day. I ended up duct-taping his eyelashes to a doorknob.


GravatarToshi-San has achieved a semi-stable state.
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Jeffraham Prestonian


maine?


GravatarWhen I bring stuff like this up he thinks I'm advocating socialism or something. He says, "These companies create jobs! The usual crap.

I have been citing Kiplinger lately. I don't like at all what he claims:

The steady erosion in retiree health benefits will accelerate in the next year or soas more employers cut back to cope with costs. Millions more current and future retirees will lose their benefits. Already, only about 25% of firms offer them. A bare third of companies with 200 or more workers now provide health benefits to current retirees. Since 2002, 33% of big firms have scrapped benefits for future retirees. And many employers that have resisted the trend have upped the ante for retirees, dramatically boosting copay, deductibles, and premiums.


Good luck, 'Murka.


GravatarHey Thers! Finally done here. You want I should get anything on the way home?


Gravatar(M)ann Coulter was quoted in it. She is quite the admirer of McCarthy. Said something about "angry ethnics like Joe McCarthy" making the "best Americans."

(The profile was very interesting, too.)
res ipsa loquitur

She has a thing for drunken closet cases if Brock's book is representative, and I believe it is.


Gravatarmesquite?, no

more of a piney flavor.


GravatarDid anyone read the profile of Peter Viereck in the NYer about two weeks ago? It was called "The First Conservative."

I figured there must be something valuable about him due to a number of his comments. The best I remember was from the 1950s, his saying to William F. Buckley that Adlai Stevenson was a true conservative. I am sure that if we could put Viereck on one side of Buckley and Gore Vidal on the other, we could pop Buckley like a zit.


GravatarTena Montana has it's own flavor of rednecks.

This I readily believe.



My little corner of Colorado got a whole bunch of rednecks who immigrated in from around Blythe and Needles. I guess they followed the rich Californians who came in and bought property.

Of course, there have always been the homegrown good ol' boys.


Gravatar"Just saw a "I'm a democrat and I'm for Bloomberg" commercial w/(among others) Magic Johnson, Kathleen Turner, and Koch."

"I'm rich, and I'm for the rich guy."


GravatarIn the Metro NY area, all housing is ridiculousy expensive. Eliminating the interest deduction would impact everybody and take away one of the few tax deductions the middle class has. It's a Blue State tax because of the gigantic difference in housing costs.

I hear that Texas is agin it though.


GravatarGood luck, 'Murka.

Is it too early to start shopping for ice floes?


Gravatarmaine?
olexicon, with SPALLS

Not if the Maine Klux Klan overturns gay rights next Tuesday it isn't.


Gravatar"You go to hell," he screamed at the strategist. "You can leave and you can take the rest of these lily-livered motherfuckers with you!" The President then stormed out of the room and refused to meet further with any other party leaders or strategists.


That's quite amusing. Chimpy is possessed by Mr. Garrison.


Gravatarno

more of a piney flavor.
doug, w tumbrels & guillotines


Old hickory?


GravatarGWPDA - everyone else is upstairs. I had to go through Archives to get there.
Ahianne


I know. I'm outside working in the garden, myself.

On the internets nobody know where anybody is.


GravatarPie,

It gets worse. All the companies are looking at these "consumer directed health plans," which is a nice way of saying your cost sharing goes up, and the more choice you want, the more you pay.

Or those stupid-ass MSAs, which only work for the rich and the healthy.


GravatarEli - SF fen come in all political stripes, but I suspect liberals may outnumber cons. I do not get a fundy SF fan though.


GravatarIn the Metro NY area, all housing is ridiculousy expensive. Eliminating the interest deduction would impact everybody and take away one of the few tax deductions the middle class has.

You know what's really irritating me? The "liberal" NYT keeps writing that this tax benefit "accrues disproportionately to the affluent." It does not. Not at all.


GravatarNot if the Maine Klux Klan overturns gay rights next Tuesday it isn't.
EPT


Masachucetts?


Gravatar no

more of a piney flavor.
doug, w tumbrels & guillotines


Old hickory?


Old Spice?


GravatarMy guess is that the chimp is being medicated by his WH doctors, and maybe getting into his stash occasionaly, when Laura hasn't flushed it down the toilet.

My guess is that the chimp is being medicated by his WH doctors, and maybe getting into his stash occasionaly, when Laura hasn't flushed it down the toilet.

Yeah, I'd guess he's a combo kind of guy.

The girl Kerry was supposed to have had an affair with was a journalism student--Columbia, maybe?--and was dating one of his staffers. Thus, she sometimes flew to where the campaign was and stayed in the same hotel. She was out of the country when the story broke, and it took her a while to figure out what they were saying about her.


GravatarWhat's the matter with pussy in the oval office?


Gravatar Eli - SF fen come in all political stripes, but I suspect liberals may outnumber cons. I do not get a fundy SF fan though.

I certainly hope so, speaking as a sci-fi fan myself...


GravatarExcept for that science part...
Ripley


Ripley beat me to it.


GravatarHey Thers! Finally done here. You want I should get anything on the way home?
NYMary


Can't you guys call each other?


GravatarOld hickory?

Old Spice?
Ripley |


Really old spice


GravatarI'm gonna start posting under the handle "Ethel the Dumkatt," if Lion Kitty Maxx can post ...


GravatarI don't understand the "archives secret password" speakeasy type deal with blogspot.

I think the problem transcends browser technology.


Gravatar"Just saw a "I'm a democrat and I'm for Bloomberg" commercial w/(among others) Magic Johnson, Kathleen Turner, and Koch."


Koch. A "Democrat" who never saw a Democrat he liked or a Republican-fascist he didn't. Or whatever it is that he does to pretend he likes someone. He's a hateful, twisted, closet case. Get him drunk and Ann Coulter would probably try to fuck him.


Gravatarspinoza ... Did you read it? It talks about Buckley as someone who "ruined" a burgeoning conservative movement. Viereck apparently wrote about the potential for Texas oil money to co-opt and corrupt the movement. He was especially worried about the radicalism that would come by harnessing the power of the "gullible mass base."


Gravatarsmitty,
There's a teen in the house, the phone is usually busy.


GravatarGorgeous crescent moon out there, with what I think is Venus just to the right of it.


GravatarI'm gonna start posting under the handle "Ethel the Dumkatt," if Lion Kitty Maxx can post ...


I can post cause I'm really smart and I got big paws and all.


GravatarNYMary, get stuff to make nachos. Also red wine, milk, diet coke, stiletto heels, and a trapeze.


GravatarI'm even more overt than the yayor ed koch
I got sactosted in the bowery at a quarter to 4
cause we ain't goknna work on maggie's farm no more


Gravatar"Tena Montana has it's own flavor of rednecks."

I've got acquiantances thru business in WY...funny as hell, they are.

They all left eastern states to get away from 'welfare people'. They overlook they get fed subsidized electricity, water, grazing, mineral rights, crop subsidies, highway subsidies, federally built dams, etc.etc.

yeah, thank god they got away from them 'freeloaders'.


GravatarShit, of course I meant to write "that man tried to kill his daddy..."

Please insert correction.


GravatarI can post cause I'm really smart and I got big paws and all.

You type remarkably well for someone whose paws are the size of a Palm Pilot.


GravatarNYMary, get stuff to make nachos. Also red wine, milk, diet coke, stiletto heels, and a trapeze.
Thers


Dammit, man, you forgot the whoopie cushion!


GravatarCan't you guys call each other?

Oh, and Indian food!


GravatarI scoot my ass in your general direction, Maxx.


GravatarNYMary, get stuff to make nachos. Also red wine, milk, diet coke, stiletto heels, and a trapeze.


Nachos are delicious!! make sure you put lots of jalepenos on them.


GravatarIt's the "liberal media." The NYTs printed quotes from Corzines ex-wife. She said he let her down and she thinks he'll let NJ down. Why would the NYTs print that. She didn't say: He beat me and sodomized me with a loaded double barreled shotgun every tuesday. Here's the police reports and pictures.

The paper of record, the old gray lady, an American icon printed an angry ex-wife's bitter statements days before an election.

Why? Because the "liberal media" is controlled by criminals that will do whatever it takes to further their own interests. It doesn't matter that rove told them to or whoever might have. It's the fact the "liberal media" thinks any dem, anywhere, any time is "fair game." And if slamming a dem gets them something good in return they are more than happy to do it.

What about judy? What about the highest level executives at the times covering her blood soaked butt. They aren't running a paper. That's a criminal enterprise.

It's not just the executives, it's also the editors and reporters. How in the world could gannon/guckert sit in the middle of the white house press corps for 2 years and nobody says a word? Not one member of the "liberal media" made a peep. They knew something was up. Maybe not exactly what, but they knew something was rotten in the briefing room. They said not a word.

As long as the "liberal media" can do what they want this is not a free country. It's a corporate controlled banana republic.


GravatarThe guy also went off on Christmas and got vehement about it.

He spent a lot of his time listening to the radio hate screamers. All of them. Even Michael the Savage Weiner.

I would be so damned glad to see hatefulness go out of style. I'm beyond worn out with it.


GravatarOh, and Indian food!

Maize?


Gravatar"I have been citing Kiplinger lately. I don't like at all what he claims..."
--pie


Unless the elite change their thinking, America is down the tube. Sad days ahead for America.

With that, I am hooking up with friends of thirty years for dinner out. Might be the last time because of funds, but I plan on having a good time. See ya later.


GravatarI can post cause I'm really smart and I got big paws and all.

I don't, and I defy the Man!

I'm a rebel without any paws.


GravatarYou type remarkably well for someone whose paws are the size of a Palm Pilot.


What do you think the claws are for?


GravatarI'm never gonna live down the Food Hell, am I?


GravatarThe Red Staters feed off the federal teat big time. What do they give us in return? Grain and suject matter for Court TV.


Gravatar Shit, of course I meant to write "that man tried to kill his daddy..."

Please insert correction.


I thought that was intentional, and that it worked quite well.


Dammit, man, you forgot the whoopie cushion!

They do have a bed...


GravatarLittle Brøther ... That's about it, but I have a better idea. You come and tell that to the B-I-L. I am sick of him.


GravatarI would be so damned glad to see hatefulness go out of style. I'm beyond worn out with it.


Unfortunately hatefulness is part of humanity.


I saw a bunch of it on display this afternoon.


GravatarI'm so smart I can make the pink gorilla type for me.


GravatarWhat does Brock's book say about (M)ann's taste for gay men?

I just read that she's been engaged four times. But no weddings. I wonder why? Who do you think called it off -- her or the groom(s)?


Gravatar I'm never gonna live down the Food Hell, am I?

Hee hee. We is jes' messin'.


GravatarUnfortunately hatefulness is part of humanity.


I saw a bunch of it on display this afternoon.
lion kitty Maxx


an anti-pusscy cat rally?


GravatarKarin (manhands) Hughes telling stories on cspan.

The Saudis love us apparently.

Of course they do.

They have all of our money.


GravatarNew Jersey Public Radio & Television aired a report Friday night in which New Jersey Democratic Candidate for Governor Jon Corzine was grilled about whether a staffer he allegedly had an affair with -- had an abortion.

Wow, an abortion? If only those were legal to obtain, this wouldn't be a story at all.


GravatarRes-Yes, I found it remarkable that the conservative movement may have actually been kidnapped in the 1950s.


GravatarAnd the kind of redneck you have depends on where you are. The driving distance between town is so large, and getting larger with higher gas costs, that the state is not that homogeneous.

The regional areas that are populated with different types, are the

big college towns Missoula and Boseman (beginning to fill up with xtian facists according to one of my son's friends who goes there).

the Mountain areas, some that are pretty remote from anywhere. Lincoln Montana comes to mind here.

The eastern areas with Billings dominating things except for the Ranchers who also live in Eastern Montana. They are in their entirely own catagory.

Then there is Great Falls and the towns to the North of it on the "high line".

Northern Mountain towns around Flathead, Kalispell.


Gravatarwhat hadenough said. If the Times wants to rehabilitate itself, it's certainly starting off on the wrong foot. What possible newsworthyness could the ex-Mrs. Corzines's comments have?


GravatarHey...Tomorrow is the NYC marathon. If you're in NYC a sort of cool thing to do is go sit on the steps of the Museum of Natural History. It's right by the area where the runners re-unite with families and friends. It's fun to watch everyone who's just achieved this HUGE thing and to see them all happy and getting congratulations from from their loved ones (and all the strangers sitting there, too).


GravatarYou have to admit, Maxx spells better than your average troll.

Smells better too, I bet.


Gravatarres -- hughes is speaking before the women's foreign policy assn. it will be interesting to see if there are informed questions; or will they be content to share vacation tales to foreign lands.

her speech is so fucking shallow -- it's shameful.


GravatarI tried to take pictures at the Klan rally this afternoon, but the cops had city hall sealed off.


No one without press credentials could get in.



I did photograph some neo-Nazi types though.


GravatarI, for one, welcome our new asian poultry overlords


GravatarYou have to admit, Maxx spells better than your average troll.

Smells better too, I bet.



Plus he's plushy.

He doesn't have a lot to say, but he is good natured.


GravatarI was thinking about that story early on in the Kerry campaign (during primaries?) that a blonde woman was seen at his home late at night, and the tabs pointed to Alexandra Pollier (sp?).

What are the chances it was actually his daughter seen leaving his home, and the tabs just saw what they wanted to see.


Gravatarnot to be confused with our typing feline overlords


GravatarI'll bet not a single one of the trolls are plushy.


Not one bit.


GravatarI know Watertiger's not here, but how about some http://www.clivebarker.com/images/gallery/weird/ 500/theredshoes.jpg>shoe porn?

(NSFW for anybody who's at work. No, really!)


GravatarIf the interest deduction goes away the value of the houses many people hold as their only form of wealth will go down. That can be a problem, though I agree that the interest deduction does help the middle income and more people, rather than the poor.


GravatarKarin (manhands) Hughes telling stories on cspan.

Eek! Seeing my name next to manhands gave me a turn.
She's Karen, I'm Karin.


Gravatarnope -- no questions for karen.


Gravatar" It's fun to watch everyone who's just achieved this HUGE thing and to see them all happy and getting congratulations from from their loved ones (and all the strangers sitting there, too)."

at one point i coulda run it, but now i'd be content to sit there with a smoke and watch


GravatarOr those stupid-ass MSAs, which only work for the rich and the healthy.

We're partly in this mess because my dumbass s-i-l used to take her kids to the high-end docs when any one of them had a sniffle, which was about every five days. Her youngest was on the strongest cold medication when she was about four.


We would get pissed off because of the waste of money. They both vote republican still.


GravatarSex spreads Avian Flu, so stop having sex.

If you're married you can have sex, but wash your hands afterward.
.


Gravatar*sigh*

I know, tags.

Let's try it again.

I know Watertiger's not here, but how about some shoe porn?

(NSFW for anybody who's at work. No, really!)


GravatarMarcia,
That's the journalism student. She ended up doing a Master's project on Drudge and her experience, as I recall.

Story here: http://newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/.../features/9221/


Gravatarshouldn't we hire Lionel Hutz as Lewis libby's attorney?


GravatarIf you're married you can have sex, but wash your hands afterward.
.
Arabella


during?


GravatarOK, one more time:

shoe porn.


GravatarI tried to take pictures at the Klan rally this afternoon, but the cops had city hall sealed off.

4lg,

You had a fucking Klan rally nearby today? Good Lord.


GravatarI would be so damned glad to see hatefulness go out of style. I'm beyond worn out with it.
Tena - 6:19 pm


me, too...weary to the bone of it...

it makes ya feel all hollow inside sometimes...

extraspecially when one is the object of the animus...

and i guess it may be said that i've inscribed some pretty hateful sentiments, myself, viewed 'objectively.'

i'll stop tomorrow, first thing as i notice a parallel cessation...

drive-by


GravatarI'll bet not a single one of the trolls are plushy.
Not one bit.


Doughy's not the same as plushy, is it?


Gravatar shouldn't we hire Lionel Hutz as Lewis libby's attorney?

Or nominate him to the SC


GravatarSorry Karin.
I'm a (whatever the female version is) wanker.

Of course it's Karen (manhands) Hughes.

It's safe now though.
She's done.


Gravatar(.)(.)
 


Gravataroohh, robert mitchum in thunder road is on tcm. one of the coolest guys ever.


GravatarDoughy's not the same as plushy, is it?


Not even close.


This is plushy. In a bedheaded sort of way.


I won't damage anyone's retinas by giving an example of doughyness. Just remember it's horrible beyond belief.


GravatarDoughy's not the same as plushy, is it?
NYMary


i always thought they were mnore pasty white?


Gravatar"I would be so damned glad to see hatefulness go out of style. I'm beyond worn out with it."

i'll stop hating when the goopers/fundies stop destroying my country...


GravatarBirds spread Avian Flu, but only to sexually active people. In addition, migrating birds cross our borders at will and take away jobs and use up social services.


GravatarMany of the Moslem migrants, who began to appear in large numbers four decades ago, have not assimilated. Europe has long tolerated this, partly because of a belief in “Multiculturalism” and partly because Europe does not have a tradition of assimilation. This is in stark contrast to the United States, where the “melting pot,” while often operating more like a salad bowl, still results in far less ghettoization than is found in Europe. Another advantage America has is that, in many parts of the country, there are so many migrants that “everyone is a minority.” In Europe, homogeneity is preferred, and those who do not conform, are simply tolerated (and sometimes not) as “outsiders in residence.” That’s where the concept of “ghetto” came from in the first place. The ghetto is quite common the world over, but much less so in America. . . .


GravatarI'm a (whatever the female version is) wanker.

Wankette?


GravatarOr nominate him to the SC
Ripley


but Judge Snyder has more experience on the bench
and Judge Constance Harm is clearly a republican


Gravatarblue-footed boobies!


GravatarI'll bet not a single one of the trolls are plushy.

Trolls are sort of icky squishy and smell real real bad when they get squeezed and pop. The gunk is supposed to be real hard to wash off.


Gravatar4lg,

You had a fucking Klan rally nearby today? Good Lord.


Yes.

They came to rally for the anti-gay marriage amendment that's on the ballot this weekend.

Apparently there were only 10 of them, and the cops wouldn't let anyone get close, so they yelled their hatred to no one and then escaped.


GravatarIn the 60's Europeans looked down at the US because of our intergration problems. The Europeans have never had to deal with a diverse population until recently.


GravatarWankette?
Eli


Wankess?


GravatarSpeaking of the New York City Marathon, my friend Rod Dixon won it some years ago - I'll be talking to Rod on my upcoming NZ video podcast about the massacre of the Israeli athletes at the Munich Olympics (where Rod won the bronze in the 1500m) - the NZ athletes were housed in the same block at the Olympic village: This interview will be timely as Spielberg's film about the aftermath, Munich, will be released in December.

As they say: Be There.


GravatarCan't you guys call each other?


I love it when these two love birds communicate here. Kind of makes the whole virtual thingy a little more real.


GravatarWankette?
Honey Bear is NOT a wanker or wankette.


GravatarI see the trolls are cutting and pasting tonight. That changes so many people's minds.


Gravatar Wankette?
Eli


Wankess?


Wankinatrix?


GravatarWalter,

You're friends with Rod Dixon? Wow.


GravatarI was disappointed.


I wanted some pictures of the fools.


I did get lots of pictures of the other various weirdos floating about and lots of walls of cops with assault rifles and nightsticks.


GravatarI love it when these two love birds communicate here. Kind of makes the whole virtual thingy a little more real.

Toby and Gordo? shudder....


GravatarWankette?
Eli


Wankess?

Wankinatrix?
Ripley |


wank-a-lanka-ding-dong


GravatarI would be so damned glad to see hatefulness go out of style. I'm beyond worn out with it.
Tena - 6:19 pm

me, too...weary to the bone of it...


Me, three. I'm working with someone who is the most hate-filled person I've ever encountered. This woman spews venom nearly every hour of the day. It's not just politics -- it's everything. It's exhausting. It's made me take a look at myself and try to monitor how much hate I'm


GravatarwÒÓ†'s latest birdfeet look a lot like the Bluecorn chips so prevalent on my grocer's shelves.


GravatarWhat a riding mower looks like in my hood.

http://static.flickr.com/32/ 5997..._80b95fb645.jpg


Gravatarsmitty werbenmanjensen:

Yes, we competed together on the same NZ track team: I was a high jumper.


GravatarThe Europeans have never had to deal with a diverse population until recently.

There is a lot more racism in Western Europe than many realize.


Gravatarfourlegs,

Sounds like the Klan rally here in Dayton about 8 years ago. They rallied downtown, but the city sealed off the area, so no counter-protests, or even pro-Klan. My librarian called it The Rush Limbaugh Family Reunion.


GravatarIn addition, migrating birds cross our borders at will and take away jobs and use up social services.

I would bet that birds don't go to the doctor unless it's serious.

Unlike my rich s-i-l who pays the minimum for every single visit.


GravatarUNHINGED

Hundreds of threatening e-mails have been sent to Sacramento City Council members since Tuesday, when the council passed a highly controversial, anti-war resolution.

...comments that are made in the e-mails include: "you should be hanged" and "hope your children are beheaded."

"They talk about cutting our heads off, my head off. They say some very vile, dirty things," [council member Ray] Tretheway [said].

The e-mails were sparked by a resolution -- passed by the council -- that calls on President George W. Bush to withdraw troops from Iraq....

--KCRA


Gravatarlion kitty Maxx - I know hatefulness is part of mankind, but it hasn't always been the dominant cultural meme. It seems to me you used to have to go looking for it. Now you can't escape it.


GravatarWanky Doodle in my Handy


GravatarThere is a lot more racism in Western Europe than many realize.

Sigh, just pick the enemy du jour.


GravatarI also had a funny conversation with a black cop on a motorcycle.

I said to him, "have you ever noticed that these KKK types and white supremicists are some of the ugliest motherfuckers you've ever seen?"

He roared with laughter. He said, "my partner gets pissed when I say that. Says I'm stereotyping."

I sez, "I can say it cause it's true and besides, I'm whiter than casper."


GravatarWankelist


GravatarKarin you're a sweetie.


Being a wanker kind of implies you have something to wank.


GravatarLocal NBC affiliate: Newark Star Ledger is reporting that Forrester's campaign manager is responsible for spreading rumors about Corzine's sex life.


GravatarThere is a lot more racism in Western Europe than many realize.

Only if many never heard of WWII.


GravatarWanktegenarian
(eg Paul Harvey or Irving kristol)


Gravatarfourlegs,

Sounds like the Klan rally here in Dayton about 8 years ago. They rallied downtown, but the city sealed off the area, so no counter-protests, or even pro-Klan. My librarian called it The Rush Limbaugh Family Reunion.


There was a counter rally of gay/lesbian types. I couldn't get to that either. The city was worried about violence breaking out. I think they were right, people were pretty worked up.


GravatarThis nitwit anchor on CNN is so excited about the cruise ship pirates. I don't think she realizes this happens often in the. as Melville would say, "watery part of the world".


GravatarNewark Star Ledger is reporting that Forrester's campaign manager is responsible for spreading rumors about Corzine's sex life.
res ipsa loquitur


That has just been a fun campaign all the way around. Although the ads Corzine ran linking Forrester to Bush were funny.


Gravatarthe dominant cultural meme. It seems to me you used to have to go looking for it. Now you can't escape it.

I felt the strutting and hate speech in Amerika post 911, did fan the fires of hate world wide. Humanity has always been on the brink of hatred, madness, and war. Now I'm very afraid we've gone over that precipice.


Gravatar Newark Star Ledger is reporting that Forrester's campaign manager is responsible for spreading rumors about Corzine's sex life.

These assholes need to get a different playbook.


GravatarThis nitwit anchor on CNN is so excited about the cruise ship pirates. I don't think she realizes this happens often in the. as Melville would say, "watery part of the world".

There are cruise ship pirates?


Excellent!!


Gravatar"Local NBC affiliate: Newark Star Ledger is reporting that Forrester's campaign manager is responsible for spreading rumors about Corzine's sex life.
res ipsa loquitur | 11.05.05 - 6:37 pm | #
"

If he's gonna use the Karl Rove playbook, he's gotta make sure some low-level nobody takes the fall. Clearly not ready for the big time!


GravatarWanktegenarian

Bill Safire?


GravatarWanktegenarian
(eg Paul Harvey or Irving kristol)
olexicon, with SPALLS


Um, eww.


GravatarI am off to enjoy an evening repast with my saintly wife, but before that,I must take a moment to point out that WalterNeff is an Eschaton treasure.


GravatarI keep getting robo-calls from Hillary Clinton urging me to vote for every Democrat from County Executive to dog catcher. Let Tuesday come and go soon.


GravatarWoody - and everyone else - I wasn't ascribing that hatefulness to us. Sillies. We're in defensive mode. I'm talking about the people where this originated - Rush Limbaugh, O'Lielly, Coulter - you know.

I was talking about the hate screamers on radio and that's what I was referring to when I said I was tired of it.

I think we are just tired of being kicked around. We did not start this. I do not blame us.


GravatarTena, lion kitty maxx got bored and went outside to look for co-eds.


GravatarWanktegenarian
(eg Paul Harvey or Irving kristol)


They're wanktankerous old SOBs.


GravatarWanKs for coming out!


GravatarTopic: Why are wingnuts wingnuts? This has bugged me for a while now. Everyone knows people like this, neighbor, in laws, cubicle mates, etc. No matter how badly Republican policies screw them, they vote for them anyway. I have decided these people are republicans the way I'm a red sox fan. The sox have tormented me for years and I keep going back. One disastrous season after another, one disastrous coach after another. Bring back Theo for crying out loud. They'll trade Manny too and I'll still count the days til pitchers and catchers report. The republicans are their team. That's it. It's unthinking and unreasoning and when you have crap coming from Fox News and whores like Deborah Orrin helping you justify your irrationality it's even easier for them.


Gravatari have a confession to make.

i still love john kerry. before this election i never voted, and i had told myself i never would unless john kerry ran. well, this year i would have voted for any one who wasn't a repuke, come to think of it i'd have voted for a repuke, long as it wasn't the idiot king.

i'd vote for john kerry again too. i don't much care about politics, except for the game it is, but i want a reasonable sane man (or woman, not hillary) in the office.

i also want tom feeney out of office. i'm voting in that election.


GravatarI keep getting robo-calls from Hillary Clinton urging me to vote for every Democrat from County Executive to dog catcher. Let Tuesday come and go soon.
Arabella


I just keep getting them from Bloomberg's people. Why is he still spending so much money? Doesn't he have a rediculously huge lead?


GravatarWhy are wingnuts wingnuts?


I think they're crazy.


And stupid.


GravatarOkay, local NBC affiliate doing the usual rundown of local crime stories ... Put's up a suspect's mug shot. Guy's name is "Efrem Zimbalist Russell." Who the hell names their kid after a third-rate actor?


GravatarWankoopolis


Gravatari have a confession to make.

i still love john kerry.



Me too.


Gravatar"I keep getting robo-calls from Hillary Clinton"

i'm constantly getting her fundraising mailings...got another today..i gave $25 to her for her first run, just cause i like how she makes wingnut head explode, but not a penny since.

wouldn't give her another .10, she's got enuf and i think it's dangerous for her to have so much $ and the power it brings...plus, i can't recall offhand her doing anything that i've really yipped it up about...


GravatarI think they're crazy.


And stupid.
fourlegsgood


and they have bad breath


GravatarGuy's name is "Efrem Zimbalist Russell." Who the hell names their kid after a third-rate actor?

Stephanie or Kurt?


Gravatar"Guy's name is "Efrem Zimbalist Russell." Who the hell names their kid after a third-rate actor?
res ipsa loquitur | 11.05.05 - 6:42 pm | #
"

Maybe Nipsy Russell Russell would have been a better choice?


GravatarI have decided these people are republicans the way I'm a red sox fan.

I think you're right. It's like "W" is a brand or a team, like you say. And that's the wingnuts's team.

I think a lot of people find it easier to process information on a superficial level like that. Short attention spans, etc.

Not that rooting for the Sox is superficial. I'm a Sox fan, too.


GravatarGuy's name is "Efrem Zimbalist Russell." Who the hell names their kid after a third-rate actor? res ipsa loquitur

Well they sure weren't gonna name him Bertrand.


GravatarI have decided these people are republicans the way I'm a red sox fan.

Big difference, if you pick the wrong sports team, not much happens.

When the wrong politicians are picked the four horsemen of the apocalypse accompany them.


GravatarI know a guy who named his kid after a third-rate basketball ster: Xavier McDaniels [LastName]


GravatarI'm not a Hillary fan either. She does have major star power though. Whenever I've seen her in person, she looks terrific. Very charismatic. I still don't understand why the wingnuts hate her so much. It's pretty silly.


GravatarGuy's name is "Efrem Zimbalist Russell." Who the hell names their kid after a third-rate actor?



Fred the hammer williamson Russell


Gravatar"i have a confession to make.

i still love john kerry."

he wasn't my man, but i worked my ass off for him...the night before the election I shook his hand at the end of a rally, and was just so hopeful this nightmare would end...


GravatarHmmm, Eli seems to keep leaving whenever I show up. I'll try not to take it personally [sniff].

Well, he can come back because I'm going out, so....

Later, kids.


Gravatarcharley - I totally fell in love with John Kerry during the campaign.

I'll tell y'all what, if Kerry would stand up now, talk about the evidence of the stolen election, and raise enough hell about it that something would start to change, I'd forgive him for not fighting it before. I need for someone in power to get serious about this.


GravatarAt least John Kerry read, thought, actually liked people, and was said to be warm and engaging in private. He is a rational man, and while I did disagree with him on many things, I think he would have led, not ruled, and used something other than his gut instincts to guide him.


GravatarWanks for the memories.....

Or, as the mother cat sang while weaning her kittens - Fangs in the mammaries.....


GravatarLocal news just announced upcoming segment on "Operation Steel Curtain," our offensive along the Syrian border in western Iraq.

Oooooookay. Does no one at the Pentagon see any problem giving an operation that name? Something so, uh, simlar to, you know, the Iron Curtain?

No one?

(Sound of crickets.)


GravatarThere are cruise ship pirates?


Excellent!!


Hadn't heart that. It's sort of funny. Just read The Pirate Hunter. Captain Kidd -- now that was a guy who really got jammed up.


GravatarGood evening bats!!

One of my cats is wagging her bald ass at me right now (she's got anxiety issues, and like to bite all the fur off of her butt...she's on medication).

What's new??


GravatarWalterNeff--and you were named for a most interesting character...


GravatarWank N' Roll


Gravatar" (she's got anxiety issues, "

i'd say so...


GravatarHillary... I still don't understand why the wingnuts hate her so much.

They fear the Cluterus™?


Gravatar Local news just announced upcoming segment on "Operation Steel Curtain," our offensive along the Syrian border in western Iraq.

That's plain stupid. Why not just call it Operation Fence? God, these people are brainless...


GravatarI think you're right. It's like "W" is a brand or a team, like you say. And that's the wingnuts's team.
But the big difference(and Matt Taibbi pointed this out long before I did), is that when your team fucks up, fans get angry, they want to fire the coach, the manager, whatever player caused the fuckup.
And sports reporters are much more brutally honest than political reporters. If the home team did bad, they tell 'em about it.


Gravatar"I think he would have led, not ruled, and used something other than his gut instincts to guide him.
sallyh,Madame Poissonniere | Email | Homepage | 11.05.05 - 6:47 pm | #
"

The contrast between Clinton's wonks who based their policies on data and reason, versus Little Boots, who mulls something over for 5 seconds and then issues a fiat, is pretty striking, isn't it?

Sane Americans don't accept "faith-based" surgery or airline flights, why is it suddenly a good thing for -running the entire government-...?


GravatarHillary... I still don't understand why the wingnuts hate her so much.

They have cliteous envy?


GravatarHillary... I still don't understand why the wingnuts hate her so much.

They fear the Cluterus™?

JeffCO |


or Clagina


GravatarI fear any plan we come up with.


GravatarOooooo, trailer for my boyfriend George Clooney's new movie, "Syriana." Manola Dargis says it's very tough on the gov't.

Bring it on!


Gravatarupcoming segment on "Operation Steel Curtain,"


Chuck Noll can sue their ass


GravatarThe Europeans have never had to deal with a diverse population until recently.

Well, there was that holocaust thing.


Gravatar my boyfriend George Clooney

Ahem. Get in line, lady!


GravatarI fear any plan we come up with.
sallyh,Madame Poissonniere


and they plan every fear


GravatarI fear any plan we come up with.

go to costco, buy a gift case of booze and have it sent to the WH to chimpy as a present.


GravatarNovember 6, 2005
Report Warned Bush Team About Intelligence Suspicions
By DOUGLAS JEHL

WASHINGTON, Nov. 5 - A high Qaeda official in American custody was identified as a likely fabricator months before the Bush administration began to use his statements as the foundation for its claims that Iraq trained Al Qaeda members to use biological and chemical weapons, according to newly declassified portions of a Defense Intelligence Agency document.

The document, an intelligence report from February 2002, said it was probable that the prisoner, Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi, "was intentionally misleading the debriefers" in making claims about Iraqi support for Al Qaeda's work with illicit weapons.

The document provides the earliest and strongest indication of doubts voiced by American intelligence agencies about Mr. Libi's credibility. Without mentioning him by name, President Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, Colin L. Powell, then secretary of state, and other administration officials repeatedly cited Mr. Libi's information as "credible" evidence that Iraq was training Al Qaeda members in the use of explosives and illicit weapons.


GravatarNovember 6, 2005
Report Warned Bush Team About Intelligence Suspicions
By DOUGLAS JEHL

WASHINGTON, Nov. 5 - A high Qaeda official in American custody was identified as a likely fabricator months before the Bush administration began to use his statements as the foundation for its claims that Iraq trained Al Qaeda members to use biological and chemical weapons, according to newly declassified portions of a Defense Intelligence Agency document.

The document, an intelligence report from February 2002, said it was probable that the prisoner, Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi, "was intentionally misleading the debriefers" in making claims about Iraqi support for Al Qaeda's work with illicit weapons.

The document provides the earliest and strongest indication of doubts voiced by American intelligence agencies about Mr. Libi's credibility. Without mentioning him by name, President Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, Colin L. Powell, then secretary of state, and other administration officials repeatedly cited Mr. Libi's information as "credible" evidence that Iraq was training Al Qaeda members in the use of explosives and illicit weapons.


Gravatar"One of my cats is wagging her bald ass at me right now (she's got anxiety issues, and like to bite all the fur off of her butt...she's on medication)."

Man, I didn't know I could get drugs for that....


GravatarHmmmm...just saw the Forrester commercial w/the words of Corzine's ex-wife. Curious that there was no audio. Just type with her words about him letting NJ down. Then ... NY TIMES logo (I guess the "liberal" NYT quoted this and they got it up toute suite.


Gravatarjawbone - Historically illiterate (anhistorical?) and tone-deaf?


Gravatar"Hillary... I still don't understand why the wingnuts hate her so much."

i could never understand how they could hate bc so much...but since they elected the chimp i've come to understand political hate...

however, i don't hate pickles like they hate hrc..


GravatarWell, I'm off to take my nonegenarian dad to a chamber music concert. Enjoy the rest of your evening.


GravatarAre there any good sci-fi movies on tonight?


GravatarI think we are just tired of being kicked around. We did not start this. I do not blame us.
Tena

or as stated in the only sylvester stalone movie i could stand.

"they drew first blood."

ps: michelle malkin is an odious bitch. makes a lot of money at it too.


Gravatar"Hillary... I still don't understand why the wingnuts hate her so much"

She's an educated, opinionated, outspoken woman who at one point in her life could have been mistaken for an actual progressive.

So of course they want her head on a pike.


GravatarWe're All Larry Flynt Now


i'd rather be Al Goldstein


GravatarWhy do they hate Hillary?


they hate and fear smart women.


GravatarAl Goldstein

Of SCREW magazine.


GravatarOooooo, trailer for my boyfriend George Clooney's new movie, "Syriana." Manola Dargis says it's very tough on the gov't.

Bring it on!
res ipsa loquitur


I used to date a guy who looked just like Clooney. Broke my heart into a million tiny little pieces, he did. So now I have a hard time watching Clooney flicks, which is a shame, because I really want to see Good Night, and Good Luck. And now Syriana. I'm going to have to get past this, I guess.


GravatarAnyone want to come over for roast turkey and butternut squash?
(my recipe not what'shername)



Gravatartime to make the republicans dance:
http://www.politicaldanceparty.com/


GravatarAhem. Get in line, lady!

I was in line while you were still wearing pigtails, wench. Do not f$%& w/me or I will bury you! He is MINE. ALL MINE.


GravatarBut the big difference(and Matt Taibbi pointed this out long before I did), is that when your team fucks up, fans get angry, they want to fire the coach, the manager, whatever player caused the fuckup.

True, but they're even more eager to tear down the other team. A Cleveland Browns tailgate is a good example. They criticize the hell out of their own team, but will start a fight with someone wearing another team's jersey. It's stupid, but it happens on a weekly basis. And defending Bush is about a higher purpose, in a wingnut's mind. That cult of personality bullshit. Criticism is not tolerated. So you get fanatics - like sports fans, but worse.


GravatarLadies, if I wake up gay tomorrow - and you never know - will I want to have wild monkey sex with Clooney or Brosnan; 'cause I'm leaning Brosnan.


GravatarOf SCREW magazine.
doug, w tumbrels & guillotines



the very same
JUst the first pronographer to jump into my fevered imagination


GravatarI remember seeing Michael Moore during his Stupid White Men book tour I think - he had a giant poster of Hillary and spent a good 15 minutes waxing rhapsodic about what a total package babe she is. I've only seen her in person once, during the '92 campaign, and she was plenty charismatic. Got a handshake and everything - well, more like a hand grab as Secret Service hustled her along the crowd.


GravatarBill in congress to block off Southern Border of the US.

!
I was excited there for a minute -- I thought we were going to wall off the South and let them secede off to their own redneck uneducated cheap-labor Walmart theocracy.

But I guess you meant Mexico.


GravatarOkay, local NBC affiliate doing the usual rundown of local crime stories ... Put's up a suspect's mug shot. Guy's name is "Efrem Zimbalist Russell." Who the hell names their kid after a third-rate actor?
res ipsa loquitur


Maybe the kid was named after the third-rate actor's dad, a great musician (violinist?)


Gravatar"One of my cats is wagging her bald ass at me right now (she's got anxiety issues, and like to bite all the fur off of her butt...she's on medication)."

Man, I didn't know I could get drugs for that....


Apparently several of you have already eaten.


GravatarOkay, local NBC affiliate doing the usual rundown of local crime stories ... Put's up a suspect's mug shot. Guy's name is "Efrem Zimbalist Russell." Who the hell names their kid after a third-rate actor?

Maybe they named him after his father? He was a pretty good classical violinist IIRC.


GravatarOh, it's the hate the smart and powerful woman idea. Well, if I were her opponent I'd hate her too. She is quite a presense. I mean, she walks into a room and she's overpowers you. Really she does.

You'd never see Hillary fumble around looking for page three of her speech. (Hello, Jeanne Pirro.)


GravatarLadies, if I wake up gay tomorrow - and you never know - will I want to have wild monkey sex with Clooney or Brosnan; 'cause I'm leaning Brosnan.
WalterNeff


Clooney has more s.a. in his little pinkie finger than Brosnan has in his entire bod. This is not even a debatable question.


GravatarThis nitwit anchor on CNN is so excited

that's carol lin. i can't even watch when she's hosting; her singsong and 'hey guys' anchorette delivery is so friggin distracting.


GravatarMaybe the kid was named after the third-rate actor's dad, a great musician (violinist?)
Diane


And his sister was in Remington STEELe


GravatarStephine Miller has uncovered Operation: "Look Over There" and it will be in full force by the time elections come around. Designed by Republicans to keep Americans looking every where but at Republicans terrible legislative records.


Gravatar'cause I'm leaning Brosnan

Naw, he's too skinny. Anyway, George has got that voice...


GravatarLadies, if I wake up gay tomorrow - and you never know - will I want to have wild monkey sex with Clooney or Brosnan; 'cause I'm leaning Brosnan.

Brosnan is aging quite nicely. But so is Clooney. And we know that Clooney is liberal. So I'd go with Clooney if I was you, Walter.


GravatarGuy's name is "Efrem Zimbalist Russell." Who the hell names their kid after a third-rate actor?
res ipsa loquitur


Because Adrian Zmed Russell was already taken?


GravatarThe document provides the earliest and strongest indication of doubts voiced by American intelligence agencies about Mr. Libi's credibility.

Libi, Libby, but you know "what's the difference."

i distinctly remember cussing my ass off during the 16 words because i knew attribution to british intelligence was a cop out. and then the way he ends all breathy "from africa". fuck that human piece of trash.


GravatarRes, Capital J--I was willing to share George Clooney, but since you two are being so greedy, I'm keeping him for myself.


GravatarNo discussion of Colin Firth?


GravatarBecause Adrian Zmed Russell was already taken?
Ick |


David soul russell?


GravatarWalterNeff--George Clooney. Doesn't have the Irish thing going on the way Brosnan does, which, where I come from, is a good thing.


GravatarSo I'd go with Clooney if I was you, Walter.
res ipsa loquitur


Wait a minute - you'd share him with Walter but not with me?!


Gravatarthe first pronographer

Do pronographers make their money off foot fetishists?


GravatarLadies, if I wake up gay tomorrow - and you never know - will I want to have wild monkey sex with Clooney or Brosnan; 'cause I'm leaning Brosnan.
WalterNeff

Clooney has more s.a. in his little pinkie finger than Brosnan has in his entire bod. This is not even a debatable question.
TJ | Email | Homepage | 11.05.05 - 6:59 pm


Clooney gets my vote.


GravatarLadies, if I wake up gay tomorrow - and you never know - will I want to have wild monkey sex with Clooney or Brosnan; 'cause I'm leaning Brosnan.
WalterNeff

Clooney has more s.a. in his little pinkie finger than Brosnan has in his entire bod. This is not even a debatable question.
TJ | Email | Homepage | 11.05.05 - 6:59 pm


Clooney gets my vote.


GravatarAdrian Zmed
host of "Solid Gold"


GravatarOkay, then, it'll be Clooney: I'd better send Pierce a note.


GravatarDo pronographers make their money off foot fetishists?
JeffCO


Dick Morris?


GravatarCapital J--odds of WalterNeff waking up gay tomorrow are, well, remote.


Gravatar'cause I'm leaning Brosnan.

better than Charles Bronson.


GravatarWalterNeff--send him a nice case of Pinot Noir with the note. He'll think lovingly of you.


GravatarSteve Guttenberg Russell.

I win.


GravatarIn real life I have a history of dating more of the shall we say Danny DeVito types.


GravatarSteve Guttenberg Russell. I win. WalterNeff

Please report to the courtesy desk to claim your copy of Three Men and a Little Lady.


GravatarAdrian Zmed
host of "Solid Gold"


I thought that was Marilyn McCoo.


GravatarRichard Perle on C-Span2. My cat just vomited again.


Gravatar"Pierce, can we still be friends?" - W

.


GravatarMarilyn McCoo - ooh, lovely woman.


GravatarOkay, then, it'll be Clooney: I'd better send Pierce a note.

Just send him some of your underwear.


GravatarIn real life I have a history of dating more of the shall we say Danny DeVito types. Capital J

Three words: Taxi Zum Clo.


GravatarI think Clive Owen is the business.
Colin Firth is up there too.

But like somebody said (I think Carrie Bradshaw)
Clooney is like Chanel, a classic.


GravatarIn real life I have a history of dating more of the shall we say Danny DeVito types.

With the exception of one, all my beaux have been very average-looking (one was even kind of below-average). But those guys often get what I call the "Avis Award." Because they are not the best looking guys in the pack, they try a little harder in other key areas (wink-wink).

Their efforts are always greatly appreciated.


GravatarEfram Zimbalist, Junior.
Shrub would have snapped many towels on that kid's ass in school.


Gravatarand wouldn;t a pronographer be more into Sea Food


GravatarWhile you all are sharing Clooney, could I have Bronson? I loved him in the Thomas Crowne Affair remake.


Gravatar Hmmm, Eli seems to keep leaving whenever I show up. I'll try not to take it personally [sniff].

Well, crap. I just stepped out for a moment to post some loot...


GravatarWait a minute - you'd share him with Walter but not with me?!

You didn't say anything about sharing.

We can share. But I'm not waiting in line behind you. (I guess that makes me a liberal, but a big baby.)


GravatarJeffCo - explain please?


GravatarTed Kennedy out representing for J. Corzine in Joisy today.


GravatarI stand corrected

here is a list of Solid Gold's hosts
Credited cast:
Dionne Warwick .... Herself (Hostess) (1980-1981, 1985-1986)
Marilyn McCoo .... Herself (Hostess) (1981-1984, 1986-198
Andy Gibb .... Himself (Host) (1981-1982)
Rex Smith .... Himself (Host) (1982-1983)
Rick Dees .... Himself (Host) (1984-1985)


GravatarWhile you all are sharing Clooney, could I have Bronson?

Then Came Bronson?


GravatarWhile you all are sharing Clooney, could I have Bronson? I loved him in the Thomas Crowne Affair remake.

I would be a damned fool not to let a witch have Brosnan.

HoneyBear ... I am down with your list. Firth ... Owen ... Clooney the Classic -- yummy!


GravatarOk, I am watching the NJ gov. debate. What is up with Forrester's hair? That has to be a wig.


GravatarMsNeff has just checked in with her If I Turn Gay Tomorrow lover: Charlize Theron. However, she said it with such enthusiasm I don't think turning gay was part of her calculus.


GravatarAdrian Zmed
hosted
# "Dance Fever" (1979) TV Series .... Host (1985-1987)


GravatarBecause they are not the best looking guys in the pack, they try a little harder in other key areas (wink-wink).

My problem with the good-looking guys I've dated and lived with is not their bedroom skills, but their inability to confine said skills to one bed.

It took me a lotta years and a lotta tear-stained pillows to finally understand that.


Gravatarah sweet unregulated capitalism reduces everything to what sells...its so refreshing to be free of decency, taste, modesty, fairness....now we are all on the street selling what we have to the highest bidder...remember that great scene in "the handmaidens tale" when we find out all the cocktail waitresses and sex toys used to be social workers and teachers and so on....too bad the republicans didn't realize their daughters and sons and families would be put out on the street to "earn" with everyone else...


GravatarOooh. The Time-Life infomercial of the 70's country/western music is on.

Dolly Parton when she was singing "Jolene".

Beautiful song/beautiful wig!!!


GravatarMsNeff has just checked in with her If I Turn Gay Tomorrow lover: Charlize Theron. However, she said it with such enthusiasm I don't think turning gay was part of her calculus.

Did she ask if it hurt?


GravatarDolly Parton when she was singing "Jolene".

The woman is seriously talented. And her new disc is pretty anti-war.


GravatarJeffCo - explain please? Capital J

Just a little obscure film joke.


GravatarWith the exception of one, all my beaux have been very average-looking

I was briefly involved with a head-turningly gorgeous (and rich) guy who was about as much fun as a department store mannequin. He wasn't vain or obnoxious, just extremely bland.


GravatarTed Kennedy out representing for J. Corzine in Joisy today.

I sure haven't noticed Lame Ducky out campaigning for anyone. Think they've figure out he's radioactive and stopped inviting him?


GravatarProof I'm not Republican: I have never cheated on a spouse or girlfriend. Not once.

I HATE when people do that. Keep a promise, folks.


GravatarOooh. The Time-Life infomercial of the 70's country/western music is on.

Dolly Parton when she was singing "Jolene".

Beautiful song/beautiful wig!!!
Zap Rowsdower |


the one hosted by Kenny Rogers and Lorianne crook?


GravatarWell, crap. I just stepped out for a moment to post some loot...

Eli,

In a word....CREEPY!!


GravatarMsNeff has just checked in with her If I Turn Gay Tomorrow lover:

My If I Turn Gay Tomorrow choice would be Catherine Zeta Jones. She is smoking!


GravatarSigh! At least it's not Clooney in a Panda Suit...


GravatarEvening, all.



Don't have anything else to say,
but what the heck.


GravatarWhile you all are sharing Clooney, could I have Bronson? I loved him in the Thomas Crowne Affair remake.

do you want to dance or do you want to dance??????????????????///


GravatarI sure haven't noticed Lame Ducky out campaigning for anyone. Think they've figure out he's radioactive and stopped inviting him?

He was supposed to help Kilgore; Kilgore declined, last minute, then changed his mond. I don't know if Bush will be showing up or not, at this point.


Gravatarhecate, lame ducky was in latin america lending a hand to castro and chavez...turns out he is a socialist after all!


Gravatar Proof I'm not Republican: I have never cheated on a spouse or girlfriend. Not once.

Hell, I have enough trouble just getting *one* woman...


Gravatarthe one hosted by Kenny Rogers and Lorianne crook?

The very same.


GravatarIn a word....CREEPY!!

Thank you. Thankyouvermuch.


Gravatardo you want to dance or do you want to dance

Honestly, that scene was one of the sexiest scenes I've seen in any movie in a long time. And I loved the sex they had afterwards because they were laughing and having such a great time.


GravatarI sure haven't noticed Lame Ducky out campaigning for anyone. Think they've figure out he's radioactive and stopped inviting him?

Hecate ... There is a radio commercial running for some local NJ race wherein the Repuke candidates get a call from Dumbya offering to show up and they try to figure out ways to thwart his appearnce. At one point the Repuke candidate says, "Oh God, he'll come and bring that FEMA guy Heck-ofa-job Brownie" with him!"


GravatarI'm On The Story in The Situation Room with my Reporter's Notebook. I'm so happy I think I'll turn a 360.


GravatarThe very same.
Zap Rowsdower


I tend to see it at 1 an oin the CTv
It is my new facvorite infomercial
Just for the precence of the gambler


GravatarI'm On The Story in The Situation Room with my Reporter's Notebook. I'm so happy I think I'll turn a 360.
WalterNeff |


on NEwsNight with Paula ZAhn NOw


Gravatarstop having sex


Gravatarbecause they were laughing.

That happens here - but I don't think in a good way.


Gravatar stop having sex

...as a weapon?


Gravatar stop having sex

Wasn't this a Talking Heads album?


Gravatarbecause they were laughing.

That happens here - but I don't think in a good way.


Laughing is always good.


GravatarWell, sexy beasts, I'm off to the Saw Mill Cafe for a burger and a coke: those dishes better be hospital clean or there'll be Hell to pay.


GravatarAl Kamen told me Dana Bash has a great walk.


GravatarWell, see, I get laughing and pointing.


GravatarWasn't this a Talking Heads album?



GravatarSaturday, November 05, 2005
Wrong

I know. Its about time to do a new post about how The Iraq War was wrong. I think the problem is there's just to much information about there about the The Iraq War's wrongness. It's overwehlming at times(kind of swamped you know?). I do my diligence(web news search about Iraq news stories is good because its always a treasure trove of news stories that, each one of them in its own ways, prove The Iraq War was wrong) and look on blogs(Pangadon- always good), but sometimes the posts just doesn't come out. This is one of those sometimes.

Its like in Happenstance(French title: Le battingment du ailles de pappillon i.e. Bullet with butterfly wings (in French) where that one guy who's a liar all the time just sits and watches the bomsch fall on him in the metro. Its wrong and he knows it's wrong but he can't do to stop it(while the Algerian criminal guy is with rightous disbelief). Then later when he tells him mom excuse he pretends like he saved the day while a another guy was the one who really just sat there. But instead its him and in result, he can't get cafe with the Asain girl for some reason(didn't relly understand that part).

Well I"M not gonna to be like that guy. Maybe alittle more like Audrey Tataou character. She is sweet(as always) but a little rough edge due to how events transpire against her. I don't understand why she didn't just go for the restaruant guy at the beginning and then the whole movie would never have to happen. But I guess thats the magic of French cinema.

I'm just going off on a tangent here but there was one time I was in a situation like that(the liar guy). I was walking back home and this old guy (Gentleman) was on the sidewalk wanted help getting up. BOY didn't know what I to do. I started to help him (though rather heavy to pick all by myself) but then can you believe- this guy came along (twenty somethings- tan) and he was a actual paramedics already . He knew waht to do and stuffs( isn't that amazing!) so it all worked out. (I hi tailed out of there actuelly- wanted to get home in time to watch Rosie- OH Rosie we miss you. Waht other venue on TV is there nowadays for Broadways. It's just, a shame is all).

On that note I learned some AMAZING news last weekend. So I was there at the matiney with Dorit (Cyrus and I- Kind of on the out and outs on account I wouldn't help him paint. But seriously waht kind of favor is that). I've mentioned Dorit before- also in Lohanim, ect. Anyways we wanted to go see Prime (Merrill Streep helarious BWT- no joke). It was pretty good although rather hard to picture Uma as 37 (still looks fabulous). But anwyays. Guess waht was one of the previews?

I'll set the stage for you. Ok so the preview starts and its New York(guessing). Lots of multi cultural people. Furniture. Music. So, you know in the back of my head I'm already thinking "OGM- this is almost like the setting for Rent". And lo the behold(cut a long story short) the unmesta


GravatarWell, see, I get laughing and pointing. WalterNeff

Depends on who's doing the laughing and who's doing the pointing.


GravatarWell, sexy beasts, I'm off to the Saw Mill Cafe for a burger and a coke: those dishes better be hospital clean or there'll be Hell to pay.

MONKEY HATE CLEAN!!!


Gravatari gotta go with Pierce. never understood the attraction to George (either one) well, actually the actor was pretty charming on jon stewart the other nite.

woke up listening to neil last nite on conan. he ain't a beauty, but what an awesome musician. Dolly is holding up well, i'd hit it. ohh, and emmy lou was on with neil, what a babe.

bob refused to be on her new album. but that's no surprise. mr. enigma. "come all ye masters of war..." i'd like to here some of his thoughts on the current crop of asshats.


GravatarI'll set the stage for you. Ok so the preview starts and its New York(guessing). Lots of multi cultural people. Furniture. Music. So, you know in the back of my head I'm already thinking "OGM- this is almost like the setting for Rent". And lo the behold(cut a long story short) the unmestakable chorus "no day like to-day" starts up and we rellize THATS WAHT IT IS. A movie version of Rent! MAN were lucky to live in this day and age. I never dreamed in a million years it would get to the big screen(to much bureacratic red tape, plus I figured the stolid/staid mainstream movie big business would NEVER go for it). Dorit and I just looked at each other and hi-fives. We are SO there opening night.

Waht a time!

P.S. Don't forget, (as some tend to forget), the Iraq War was wrong. Kinda down today about it actually so go easy.


GravatarAl Kamen told me Dana Bash has a great walk.
SSquirrel


my dad says her face looks like a yield sign


GravatarUmm- who invited Wordy Rappinghood?


GravatarDepends on who's doing the laughing and who's doing the pointing.

And what they're pointing *with*.


GravatarWednesday, November 02, 2005
Indightment timing- the crime? OR part of the coverup?

Hav eyou noticed taht nobody seems to be talking about the wrongness of The Iraq War lately. Its like ``to quiet'' out there to paraphrase that movie were they said that. This got me to thinking. You know that indightment thing with Liddy. Why did the indightments happen NOW. Waht kind of timing is that. Could it be is possible, that it's was all a setup from the beginning? They get their man Fitzgerard(maybe he's a dhinger or maybe they just have somethiing on him) to indight someone at the right calculated time to destract everyone from the wrongness of The Iraq War. Boom, he does, and what do you know. The Iraq War's wrongness off the radar screen . Its Macavellan (and menadacious) but that's how they operate is it not? Would you put it past them? I'm almost think Libby is the mastermind of the whole thing. Think about it nothing else make's sense. (Also helps explain why not Rove- Rove was the mastermind o fthe whole thing probably)

I think we got to get this out there.

UPDATE: OGM I just thought about this post in the bathroom and realized how stupid a post is this. Sorry folks this was not one of my betters. I was looking at the indightments from the indightments side of things (only) as if they don't prove The Iraq War was wrong in there own right. But DUH they do(duh). Gad how could I miss that Somehow I just plumb forgot to connect the indightments to the wrong war side of things(like how they ultimately come from Joe Wilson who proved the Teh Iraq War was wrong- I just forgot to make that connection in my mind). RELLY stupid of me. Speaking of Joe Wilson proving the Iraq war was wrong, can you believe that was over two years ago now(his editoral). Man how time flies. LOTS of changes in my life since then(I was still eating lots of dairy back then for one, which now seems almost unbelieavble to me)

But anwyays guys about the forgetting about the (mind numingly obvious) link between Libby lieing about waht he told Matt Copper(STILL steamed about htat BWT) and The Iraq War being was wrong, sorry cuz usuelly I'm more on the ball about these thing's. Just goes to show you got to stay on your toes to keep up a bonaphide blog like this and probably to get to full-on pundit status I'm going to need to learn to take the research/analyses side more seriously(I'm still learning- only been at this alittle over 1.5 years- its a process so bare with me pls). Missing something obvious like that, its a rookie mistake and I should be past that by now. Just goes to show were all fallable I guess. Been a humbling day all the around actuelly(traffic court- the judge didn't overturn my ticket dispite even though I made a EXECALLENT argument against it. Probalby a dhinger ``law an order`` type. Gees we can't get away from them nowadays).


Gravatarneil last nite on conan. he ain't a beauty, but what an awesome musician. Dolly is holding up well, i'd hit it. ohh, and emmy lou was on with neil, what a babe.

Emmylou is a babe. Another huge talent. I saw her live on the "At the Ryman" tour about 12 or 13 years ago. Fantastic.


GravatarWhew boy!!

Gram Parsons was theee best country and western singer of the 70's.

And he's not on the Time Life collection.

It's on my iPod right now. I don't know how I'll recharge said iPod, since the burglar stole it.


GravatarDepends on who's doing the laughing and who's doing the pointing

We can all agree that laughing and pointing beats sobbing and clenched fists.


GravatarGee, thank you so much for cutting and pasting. That's great. No, really. We all appreciate it very much. Ass.


GravatarIt's on my iPod right now. I don't know how I'll recharge said iPod, since the burglar stole it.

I'm pretty sure iPods can draw power from the Firewire cord that connects them to the PC. If you still have it.


GravatarA member of the familiy moves up ward

A BIG congradulations to are very own IWNR who apperently has been invited to join the Team Kos. If you look here they've set up with his own functionaing Kos URL and everything. This is a BIG step up for any blogger and I'm extreamly proud but also alittle jealous(why no invite for me? anyways. I guess I'm ok with staying put in my humble origins). Speaking of, IWNR not resting on his laureals already has a poll going so, go precipitate, we GOT to have are voices heard on this Kos poll to insure about the outcome(like what if it's stuffed by dhingers? Shudder the thought)


GravatarI think "RaDICK-L Man" is my new favorite atriot.


GravatarIt's on my iPod right now. I don't know how I'll recharge said iPod, since the burglar stole it.

Biofuel !


GravatarDepends on who's doing the laughing and who's doing the pointing.
-And what they're pointing *with*. Eli


Never let it be said you never said what needn't be said.


GravatarSomething awful's happened, and I need to tell NTodd about it. I never thought I'd be writing this, but yet.... I need to tell NTodd....


GravatarUmm- who invited Wordy Rappinghood?
JeffCO


Chesty LaRue?


GravatarHecate, what's the latest word on the governor's race in VA? I spoke with my sister today. She lives in a little town outside Charlottesville, and she's hopeful.


Gravatar"RaDICK-L Man" cut-and-pastes truth to power.


GravatarI, for one, welcome our new cutting and pasting overlords


GravatarI'm pretty sure iPods can draw power from the Firewire cord that connects them to the PC. If you still have it.

They can, but they can't recharge them. I've got to go buy a new recharger.

You think that I could include that in my renters insurance claim (it's 20 bucks)?


GravatarGearing up for '008

Did you guys catch how Albirght nailed it the other day. Which is bittersweet in a way because it just makes you think, dang, waht if the Democrats were in charge instead of the current crop of corruptions we got there now? Are troops would be home in beds safe and sound and Iraq free from are obnoxious meddling, The Iraq War nothing but a bad memory, everything back as it was(if only).

Anyways, I got inspired alittle by Albright's forcefulness on the issues(DANG shes good on the issue) because by the time '008 rolls around (sooner then you think) we gotta be ready. Its about putting are IDEAS (which the dhingers have none) in front of the Americans people. So here's the bumber sticker which is the winner if you ask me(this is assuming the current trend as is looks now, which is Hillery on the top of the ticket and Brock O'Bannon for Veep; can change for other name(for Veep) if necessary):


GravatarNever let it be said you never said what needn't be said.

I *always* say what needn't be said.

It's my way.


GravatarWithnail,

It's close, but recent polls show Kaine, the Dem, ahead by a few points. It's all going to come down to GOTV, esp. in northern VA. They've been doing a good job w/ mail and door hangers.


GravatarAh,Emmylou.

Gorgeous doesn't get any more
gorgeous.


And what a singer.


GravatarWHSILF ("White House Staffers I'd Like to Fuck"). The verdict: Pickings are slim

Scott McLellan? "He would just cry afterwards."
~Wonkette




GravatarThey can, but they can't recharge them. I've got to go buy a new recharger.

You sure about that? I'm pretty sure they can; it's just a lot slower. I keep my iPod at work, so I can't really confirm that right now...


GravatarSomething awful's happened, and I need to tell NTodd about it. I never thought I'd be writing this, but yet.... I need to tell NTodd....

Your souffle fell?


GravatarThanks, Hecate. My sister described Kilgore as a real idiot. Afraid to debate Kaine.


GravatarI never thought I'd be writing this, but yet.... I need to tell NTodd....

"Dear NTodd Forum..."


GravatarI never thought I'd be writing this, but yet

She was visiting her brother, my roommate, and while he was at the liquor store, picking up a keg for tonite's frat party, we were sitting on the couch and the talk naturally turned to sex...

That kind of "never thought I'd be writing this"?


Gravatar"RaDICK-L Man" cut-and-pastes truth to power

Um, no.


But it's Saturday night, and the dateless are spending time here.


Gravatarevening, all! raise a glass and toast my mom's new faculty job, our new house, and my fabulous dinner that i cooked in celebration. shepard's pie is pretty good, for such a simple rec.

do we have a new troll, or just someone doing some really good drugs?


GravatarAh,Emmylou.

Gorgeous doesn't get any more
gorgeous.


Mr. Simels,

You are my new best friend!!!


GravatarYou think that I could include that in my renters insurance claim (it's 20 bucks)?

It's 'contents', so yes, you can - assuming you're filing a claim for other items? Are you over the deductible?


GravatarIf you press me, I will share, but I, I really, really need to speak to NTodd first....


Gravatarreally good drugs?

Bad drugs, Kalispell meth or just huffing gasoline.


GravatarWithnail,

Yeah, he was horrible in the debates and then he ran some really nasty ads saying that Kaine wouldn't enforce the death penalty on Hitler. He's now beating up on immigrants.


GravatarYou sure about that? I'm pretty sure they can; it's just a lot slower.

I'll try it...

Thank you, my fellow owl hooter.

(see a few threads below)


GravatarShare!


GravatarKalispell meth? Chuy, boy, you are localising yourself something awful! You think somebody here outside of Kalispell even knows where Kalispell is? I mean, let's talk about Sweetgrass instead, or Dillon! There are people here who've never been farther north than Houston!


Gravatar. He's now beating up on immigrants.
Hecate Malificent


the Quimby Gambit


GravatarI'll try it...

Thank you, my fellow owl hooter.


No problem. You should know right away; the power icon will do its little recharging animation.



Fight the power!!!


Gravatarchidyke,

Congrats! Two trolls, one pretending to be GWPDA and another who's so clever he can cut and paste.


GravatarMy sister lived in Polson for a few years. I didn't make it out there to visit, though, which bummed me out.


Gravatarevening, all! raise a glass and toast my mom's new faculty job, our new house, and my fabulous dinner that i cooked in celebration. shepard's pie is pretty good, for such a simple rec.

Hurrah! Hurrah! Hurrah!

And make sure you make some extra gravy 'cause tomorrow that shepherd's pie is gonna want it!


GravatarYeah, he was horrible in the debates and then he ran some really nasty ads saying that Kaine wouldn't enforce the death penalty on Hitler. He's now beating up on immigrants.

Sounds like a heckuva guy. I'm surprised he decided at the last minute to have Bush appear with him. I'm not sure who that's going to win over.


GravatarOK. Cincinnatti meth, same difference. Made by mouth breating fundy skinheads, in any case.


GravatarCongrats! Two trolls, one pretending to be GWPDA and another who's so clever he can cut and paste.

Pretty sure that *is* GWPDA, and she's just being chuy, er, coy.


Gravatarmy fellow owl hooter

(perks up) Owls?


GravatarIf it was a troll, it'd be all, "Arthur got hit by a truck and I have cancer! Gotta go!"


GravatarAre you over the deductible?

Not by a long shot.


GravatarGWPDA,

OK, I'll bite. What's going on? I can tell you're just dying to tell this story to someone.

What's going on, or what giant event happened?


Gravatari think kalispell is in montana.


Gravatarthe Quimby Gambit -olexicon

Isn't that I'm Quimby, Gambit!


GravatarGWDPA
Tell me about Bible Bill Aberhart

(this is my fake or real GWDPA test)


GravatarDinner time here; see y'all later.


Gravatar i think kalispell is in montana.

Yes. I know this because someone hot at my college was from there.


Gravatargood night moonbats
sweet dreams


GravatarTo quote Lou Reed's T-shirt:

Buck Fush

Lou Reed's T-shirt. How cool is that?


GravatarIsn't that I'm Quimby, Gambit!
JeffCO


I believe you are correct


GravatarBill Kristol, 11/14/2005: "After all, the bipartisan Silberman-Robb commission found no evidence of political manufacture and manipulation of intelligence."

Silberman-Robb Commission Report, 3/31/05: "[W]e were not authorized to investigate how policymakers used the intelligence assessments they received from the Intelligence Community. Accordingly, while we interviewed a host of current and former policymakers during the course of our investigation, the purpose of those interviews was to learn about how the Intelligence Community reached and communicated its judgments about Iraq's weapons programs--not to review how policymakers subsequently used that information."

Bill ... Bill, Bill, Bill ...
-- Josh Marshall


Gravatar one pretending to be GWPDA and another who's so clever he can cut and paste.

No, no! Black iris bulbs, black iris bulbs, it's me!

It's just....

Well.

I was outside in the side yard, pulling out some old bolted lettuce and cleaning up some iris, tidying up things generally. I'd watered the new little yellow crook neck squash which are blossoming very nicely, and pulled some fresh green onions - then planted a bunch more lettuce seed.

And my pants fell off.

I took a step toward the orange tree, and, like my Grandmama during her fateful championship basketball game in 1910, when the elastic to her bloomers broke, in front of the entire Salem High School audience, there went my pants. Slid all the way down.

It was - shocking....


GravatarEli--are we going to test drive 'Avalanche'?


Gravatar To quote Lou Reed's T-shirt:

Buck Fush

Lou Reed's T-shirt. How cool is that?


I liked Jill "Kissed A Girl" Sobule's t-shirt: "*My* Bush would make a better president".


GravatarLou Reed's T-shirt. How cool is that? Hudson

Depends - short or long sleeve? 100% Cotton or poly blend?


Gravatarfuxhaloscan't!!!!!!
Well, Toshi-San flaked on me for a frustrating number of times, so since I was planning to drop off a check to the landlord anyway, I asked him if I could borrow his awesome Dell Inspiron 6000 with widescreen display (product placement plug, heh). He rarely uses it, so he turned it right over. In return, I'll be giving him a notebook bag that I won as swag at work this week. Sweet deal, eh?
.


GravatarOwls?

Oh, I got dissed by some clod (who chose to ban himself, again). And he used some stink that I should join the GOP cause I question the Dem party as a whole.


Gravatar Eli--are we going to test drive 'Avalanche'?

I suppose so. I don't have high hopes, but you never know.


It was - shocking....

Oh my.


GravatarEli--are we going to test drive 'Avalanche'?
sallyh,Madame Poissonniere


that sounds dirty


Gravatargood night moonbats
sweet dreams


heh. busted.


GravatarIt was - shocking....

Now you know how NTodd feels most of the time.


GravatarGWPDA,

OK, it's really you. But this is what happens when you come home from work and don't eat. I think you need to go get a ruben right away. And some fries. And a malted milk shake. We can't have you withering away to nothing!


GravatarIt was - shocking....

Was this photoblogged, or could we get a re-enactment?


GravatarI asked him if I could borrow his awesome Dell Inspiron 6000 with widescreen display (product placement plug, heh).

I have an Inspiron 9100 - I deliberately got an old one from the Outlet so it would have a *real* processor (3.2GHz), not one of those wimpy powersaver ones.


Gravatari apologize for questioning tha authenticity of GWDPA


Gravatar600th!!!!


Gravatari have an idea that i want to develop further. peeps: tell me your stories of the movie remake. like, "the thing" or "the blog" or "cape fear."

what rocks, what sucks, and why?


Gravatari got my motorcycle to run. took me all day and it's only running on one cylinder. it's a good thing i am not a professional mechanic. i would earn about $5 a year.


GravatarI should join the GOP cause I question the Dem party as a whole.

Why have that toothache looked at when you can just get dentures?


Gravatarlike, "the thing" or "the blog" or "cape fear."

Heh heh heh...


GravatarEli sez:

I liked Jill "Kissed A Girl" Sobule's t-shirt: "*My* Bush would make a better president".

The divine watertiger has the t-shirt. And I have the photos to prove it.


.


GravatarThe divine watertiger has the t-shirt. And I have the photos to prove it.

Ooo, where? And how did I miss this?
(Or did I just forget somehow?)


GravatarWell, it could happen to you.


Gravatar Well, it could happen to you.

It could happen to me.
It could happen to everyone eventually.


Gravatarwhat rocks, what sucks, and why?

One rule to avoid is doing a shot by shot remake, e.g., Psycho.