Go away, fuckwad!
Terry C |
11.12.05 - 12:37 pm | #
A Knight-Ridder guy on TV this am wasn't willing to
bolster A.Witt's pathetic 'good times' fantasies, but instead firmly refuted every wish she spewed.
Good on him.
plantsman |
Homepage |
11.12.05 - 12:37 pm | #
Maybe the administration has not provided the necessary assistance as 'terrorists' here and abroad have been brought to trial because for the administration to have to tell what it knows would be tantamount to admitting they allowed it to happen. Not only allowed it, but actually planned it. Let that sink in before you ask me to take off my tin foil hat. Find me another explanation that accounts for this administration's behavior, my friends.
You can't.
WtF |
11.12.05 - 12:37 pm | #
A good day to all batses everywhere and Fuck Bush!
my friends call me karl
Archibald Tuttle |
11.12.05 - 12:38 pm | #
And your piont?
TexasChiliBean
I believe that you do not see the piont (sic).
xegar |
Homepage |
11.12.05 - 12:39 pm | #
Reposted from thread below:
OT, but excellent Ellen Goodman column shrilling out on the HPV vaccine issue:
I mean, sending the wrong message about sex by preventing cancer? The country is awash in messages about sex that are a hell of a lot more on point. Hell, you can portray forced sex in a cage between a girl and a bear and be the vice president's chief of staff. There are, it must be faced, those who want some of our daughters to die, needlessly--and make no mistake, that would happen if HPV vaccine were withheld--because their ethics and religion demand it. This is nothing short of obscene, and has nothing to do with any Jesus worth believing in. This cannot in the slightest be accepted or compromised with.
ProfWombat |
11.12.05 - 12:39 pm | #
Remember that Knight Ridder is under a lot or pressure from right wing investors angry with their truth telling past.
Alice Marshall |
Homepage |
11.12.05 - 12:39 pm | #
Hey, Athenae:
Was that Fox or Stripe in yesterdays ferret blogging?
flory |
11.12.05 - 12:40 pm | #
For what it's worth Wayne Madsen Reports is reporting that Brewster-Jennings (Valerie Plames cover company for anti-proliferation activities) intercepted shipments of binary VX which were to be used to "salt" Iraq and provide the damning evidence of WMDs. (Scroll down to Nov. 11th)
Administration ire at this interception was the motivation for outing Valerie Plame.
Mooser |
Homepage |
11.12.05 - 12:41 pm | #
Incidentally, where's Osama?
By the way, name one 'terrorist' we've assisted the prosecution with.
Out of all the WTC debris, we found one of the "terrorist's" passports?
Chimpy actually sits with the children and waits for the rest of the plan to unfold.
Oil companies making record profits.
You know, at some point you have to stop mocking the conspiracy theorists and accept the cold, ugly truth.
WtF |
11.12.05 - 12:41 pm | #
None have ever been found.
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, and shit happens.
Lime Rickey |
11.12.05 - 12:41 pm | #
What's a "piont"?
Is it "nuke-que-lar"?
Terry C |
11.12.05 - 12:43 pm | #
There really isn't all that much solace in being right about things back then.
Pentimenti |
11.12.05 - 12:44 pm | #
Do wingtards EVER watch things other than fox spews? I was watching the PBS version of the news yesterday and they closed with pics of this week's fallen Americans. Looking at the pics of dead 19 year olds made my 17 year old daughter cry.
what makes a wingtard cry?
my friends call me karl
Archibald Tuttle |
11.12.05 - 12:45 pm | #
Anytime you want to think that journalism is dead, remember that Knight Ridder has been doing yeoman's work the past four years.
They deserve our thanks.
Plus it has the added bonus of pissing off the freepers.
fourlegsgood |
11.12.05 - 12:45 pm | #
Yankee come home.
Cub Fan |
Homepage |
11.12.05 - 12:46 pm | #
The point is on your head.
37% That says it all.
Kid Charlemagne |
11.12.05 - 12:46 pm | #
You know, at some point you have to stop mocking the conspiracy theorists and accept the cold, ugly truth.
WtF
I've been saying that since it happened.
Terry C |
11.12.05 - 12:46 pm | #
what makes a wingtard cry?
Tanking stock prices.
Their favorite driver losing at Nascar.
The thought of enlisting.
That's all that comes to mind.
fourlegsgood |
11.12.05 - 12:46 pm | #
shipments of binary VX which were to be used to "salt" Iraq and provide the damning evidence of WMDs.
I have no idea how credible Wayne Madsen Reports is, but, depending on the timing, that just has a wicked sense of possibility.
flory |
11.12.05 - 12:47 pm | #
what makes a wingtard cry?
Bush going down in flames.
Terry C |
11.12.05 - 12:47 pm | #
Look, it's start. In fact, I'm shocked to see these paragraphs hidden at the bottom of the craker jack box.
The media trajectory goes from showing/publishing unflattering photos to tiny bits of critical writing, to larger bits of critical writing. Then in 2 years the NY Times catches on.
Has anyone ever explained why on occasion new threads can only be accessed by going through the Archives page?
I wouldn't be able to comprehend highly technical explanations, but I'm just curious whether anyone understands why this happens, and could dumb it down for non-technical users. Thanks.
Little Brøther |
11.12.05 - 12:50 pm | #
flory:
Openly gay folks.
Unlike the closeted Repug cases.
Terry C |
11.12.05 - 12:50 pm | #
Is the MSM ever going to get it right? The intelligence was flawed because the junta wouldn't accept the truth.
Surprisingly enough, guess who gets that point?
Chris Matthews. Not only does he get it, but he's tied it into how they manipulated the major media outlets into going along.
It's gotta be a sign of the end times.
fourlegsgood |
11.12.05 - 12:50 pm | #
Jeez, even by October 2002 it was a done deal. The troops were already pretty much in-place and ready to rumble. I ditinctly remember the press saying the military was pisse because the window of opportunity in the Fall for good invadin weather was passing. That INTEL Report was just written up /made up to help get things going before winter set in. ANd As I have said a million times here before, I worked with a guy who was going to retire from the Navy in September 2002 and join us full time who had his retirement plans cancelled in the SPRING of 2002 because the military was planning to be going to war with Iraq in the Fall of 2002.
Bad Art |
11.12.05 - 12:50 pm | #
Bush ain't selling it anymore-the wonder is that he ever did.
Eleanor Clift has a column at MSNBC-the gist is that we are saddled with a dangerous "man child" president, whom we must coddle and cajole for another three years, or face the consequences.
Why is the American electorate always a dollar short and a year late?
Sweet Sue |
11.12.05 - 12:50 pm | #
tena, they will get it right eventually. If you read the newspapers during Watergate, you get an idea of how long it takes. I pulled out my journal for that year, hoping to find accounts of how Watergate unfolded. What I found was small nuggets of history imbedded in a lot of crappy poetry and adolescent angst. Time to burn the journals.
On the night Nixon resigned I wrote about a fight I had with my boyfriend.
Do wingtards EVER watch things other than fox spews?
Surely you jest!
Why FUX, MSGOP and CNN tell them what they WANT to hear!
Terry C |
11.12.05 - 12:53 pm | #
what makes a wingtard cry?
lion kitty sinking his razor-sharp claws into their balls.
fourlegsgood |
11.12.05 - 12:54 pm | #
One gleaming factoid from recent polling: 80% of Americans distrust Dick Cheney
plantsman |
Homepage |
11.12.05 - 12:54 pm | #
Where's mr Popularity these days (cheneytard)?
Archibald Tuttle |
11.12.05 - 12:54 pm | #
Well at least Pincus and Milbank did post that fact that Bush's lies even if they don't outright say Bush is lying. This is unlike the media use to do and post everything that Bush said as nothing other then the holy, unquestionable truth.
Why was the media doing that? Acting as if the Bush word is the holy word of God and beyond reproach?
The press and media were NOT doing their jobs - end of story.
They can't tell us there was nothing wrong with the press and media - even independent voters had to wonder why the press feared to question the Bush administration - and they still fear to question Bush.
The press won't ask Bush ANYTHING. I like to see Pincus and Milbank ask Bush why he lied outright - because Bush is lying.
Cheryl |
11.12.05 - 12:54 pm | #
The key to finding the WMDs is like that Citizen Caine Mutiny movie:
The Rosebush ... The Rosebush.
Lime Rickey |
11.12.05 - 12:55 pm | #
One gleaming factoid from recent polling:
80% of Americans distrust Dick Cheney
Just who are the insane 20%?
fourlegsgood |
11.12.05 - 12:55 pm | #
For a great photo of Cheney, check out watertiger's blog.
The intelligence was flawed because the junta wouldn't accept the truth.
Morning Tena.
The junta didn't care about the truth. They were building a marketing campaign, not an intelligence dossier.
You don't put the bad news in a marketing campaign.
flory |
11.12.05 - 12:55 pm | #
Before the war, the President and his aides contended Hussein was concealing nuclear, biological and chemical warfare programs in violation of a U.N. ban. None have ever been found.
Will somebody tell this to Sean Hannity, please?
Becuase just this week he did a segment on his radio show claiming that WMD were found in Iraq.
Vicki |
Homepage |
11.12.05 - 12:56 pm | #
The story could have epressed more in factual rebuttal to Bush's idotic speech. It was good, but no perfect.
You don't put the bad news in a marketing campaign.
That kind of explains their approach to everything.
And why they do such a shitty job of governing.
fourlegsgood |
11.12.05 - 12:56 pm | #
Barney Bear is tired and is going to take his nap.
Tim Finnegan |
Homepage |
11.12.05 - 12:57 pm | #
Becuase just this week he did a segment on his radio show claiming that WMD were found in Iraq.
What?
The idiot is certifiable.
fourlegsgood |
11.12.05 - 12:57 pm | #
Tweety seems to have awakened from his 'Bush-Love' slumber lately. He's giving it (especially to Cheney) almost every night. He still lets Mrs. Greenspan and Horah go on too long with their WH
Talking Points, but I pretty sure he senses blood in the water.
plantsman |
Homepage |
11.12.05 - 12:57 pm | #
It's gotta be a sign of the end times.
fourlegsgood
Rapture Index is at 158. Only 3 points below its high for the year.
flory |
11.12.05 - 12:57 pm | #
I just returned from the potters guild show.
I have mad lust for many inanimate pieces of clay. Colors, textures, shapes...God, artists are amazing.
Vicki |
Homepage |
11.12.05 - 12:59 pm | #
Just who are the insane 20%?
You sure you really wanna know?
plantsman |
Homepage |
11.12.05 - 12:59 pm | #
And why they do such a shitty job of governing.
fourlegsgood
Governing? What's that? We don't have a government. We have a crime syndicate that does nothing but campaign and commit felonies.
Tena |
Homepage |
11.12.05 - 12:59 pm | #
And why they do such a shitty job of governing.
fourlegsgood
Governing is for losers like Clinton and Gore - they're strictly into looting the US Treasury.
my friends call me karl
Archibald Tuttle |
11.12.05 - 1:00 pm | #
Tweety seems to have awakened from his 'Bush-Love' slumber lately.
Tweety's fickle. One hitch of Chimpy's jeans might reignite the fervor.
Lime Rickey |
11.12.05 - 1:01 pm | #
Yeah, Hannity actually had a list of weapons and munitions found in Iraq.
However, when I got home, I researched it, and found zero information available on the Intermets about his allegations.
He is certifiable. Bat. Shit. Crazy.
Vicki |
Homepage |
11.12.05 - 1:02 pm | #
Tweety's fickle. One hitch of Chimpy's jeans might reignite the fervor.
There is the "sunny nobility" factor, after all.
Marwood |
Homepage |
11.12.05 - 1:02 pm | #
what makes a wingtard cry?
Paying their fair share?
Honest political discussion that doesn't rely on bullying, distortion, or hate speech?
Damn, I wants me some Congressional elections. I hoping those who are blissed out on soma laced kool-aid won't see the "point" until they're reduced 37 percent backbenchers.
Loved news that bigtime dick has be demoted to warm bucket of spit status and that Condi is ascendent with Bush "more confident" of his handling of foreign affairs.
Out of step with the people again.
stencil |
11.12.05 - 1:03 pm | #
Thank God we've still got good Republican editors and publishers in charge who know how to bury the lede and leaden the writing. There's nothing to fear here. TV Libruls Timmy Russert and Chris Matthews told me they don't read beyond the first three or four paragrpahs of any story. And "presidential scholar" Doris Kerns Goodwin can't read beyond phrases like "rewriting history" because she get panicked that someone is going to accuse her pof plagiarism again.
We're safe baby. Saffffeeeeeee
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William H. Rehnquist |
11.12.05 - 1:03 pm | #
Maybe I should have shortened that and said Hannity is "Guano Crazy."
Governing? What's that? We don't have a government. We have a crime syndicate that does nothing but campaign and commit felonies.
For proof, check out the 'Medicare Drug Benefit'
"Doughnut Hole" and the fact you can't buy insurance coverage to plug it!
plantsman |
Homepage |
11.12.05 - 1:03 pm | #
Even if all of that adolescent quotidian minutiae seems exasperatingly meaningless and repugnant as political history, it's still valuable as a record of who you were and are.
And even if you are no longer fascinated by it, some descendant may be.
I say this because I regret that my father eventually threw out a sagging cardboard box filled with his WWII correspondence to and from various siblings and relatives.
Neither he nor his correspondents were particularly eloquent or well-educated, but I'm sure there would've been items of interest to me. Unfortunately, no one took an interest until after he'd tossed the stuff.
Just a suggestion from an admitted packrat.
Little Brøther |
11.12.05 - 1:05 pm | #
So's I can cockpunch them.
fourlegsgood |
11.12.05 - 1:06 pm | #
Bush says we're rewriting the history of the lead-up to war. Agreed! The narrative we were all fed by the MSN during the lead-up to the war was full of Neo-Con propaganda. Why not go back and re-write this history --- set the record straight.
eddeevy |
Homepage |
11.12.05 - 1:06 pm | #
I'm having a craving for pancakes.
fourlegsgood |
11.12.05 - 1:07 pm | #
There is the "sunny nobility" factor, after all.
Marwood
Yeah. What the fuck does that mean? Tweety has his own special language. Maybe a literal translation of Latin or something.
Lime Rickey |
11.12.05 - 1:07 pm | #
You guys are right about Tweety's fickleness and "sunny nobility" fetish -- but he so much more fun to watch when he's got Administration Bullshit in his sights.
plantsman |
Homepage |
11.12.05 - 1:08 pm | #
So's I can cockpunch them.
I hereby declare cockpunching to be unconstitutional because each said cockpunch kills millions of unborn fetus children.
I hope Holden's cleaning out some more stalls in his stable.
flory |
11.12.05 - 1:08 pm | #
we had to go to war, or else we would look weak.
I wish wingnuts and hawks would fear looking stupid as much as they fear looking weak.
Another Bruce |
11.12.05 - 1:08 pm | #
You guys are right about Tweety's fickleness and "sunny nobility" fetish -- but he so much more fun to watch when he's got Administration Bullshit in his sights.
True.
He's really pissed at how Cheney and co planted stories in the NYTimes and then used those same stories to bolster their case.
fourlegsgood |
11.12.05 - 1:09 pm | #
plantsman - ou can't buy insurance coverage to plug it!
Another in a long-ass list of outrages.
I mean a long-ass list. God I hate these people. I'm still in shock from the phosphorus and from the fight to keep the cancer vaccine from being used.
What can you say? There be monsters in charge these days.
Tena |
Homepage |
11.12.05 - 1:09 pm | #
I say this because I regret that my father eventually threw out a sagging cardboard box filled with his WWII correspondence to and from various siblings and relatives.
My mother had all her WWII correspondence with my dad in storage at my grandparents.
Grandma decided to throw it all out when they moved.
The key to finding the WMDs is like that Citizen Caine Mutiny movie:
The Rosebush ... The Rosebush.
Lime Rickey - 12:55 pm
Lime, did you forget to change into your MERKIN PATRIOT costume before you posted? Because this comment reads like a storyboard version of an MP production, before the full misspelling effects and labored sarcasm are added.
Little Brøther |
11.12.05 - 1:12 pm | #
flory,
I have an Achilles heel for artists, to start with. And then to see their work...mmmm, lusty.
If only I could have afforded this one certain piece of wall art...Don't have $ 750 on this day in history to do it, though.
Hmmm, just received a call from a friend asking me if I want to burn one. I think I might ~ it's such a beautiful day.
Burn one and walk the dog.
Vicki |
Homepage |
11.12.05 - 1:13 pm | #
we had to go to war, or else we would look weak.
And we ended looking like a nation of bullies.
Didn't we hear the "looking weak" shit about Viet Nam, too/
Terry C |
11.12.05 - 1:13 pm | #
Sounds to me like Holden gets a pony. 32% hooboy. He's even pissing off his base now.
And let me say, the only good thing about having gum treatments is that you don't have to think about it again for six months.
ql in ny |
11.12.05 - 1:13 pm | #
There is the "sunny nobility" factor, after all.
Marwood
Yeah. What the fuck does that mean?
I picture an inbred, smarmy foppish twit with an idiotic grin.
Another Bruce |
11.12.05 - 1:13 pm | #
Maybe we need a new Eschaton Civil War bet.
When does he go below 30%?
The first week of December.
flory |
11.12.05 - 1:14 pm | #
MEWSWEEK - 32%
I know Poppy hit that low in '92. Is DimSon that low now, too?
Max Planck |
11.12.05 - 1:15 pm | #
As Our Blessed Lady of the Extra-Dry Martini (patron saint of all good Episcopalians) once said: "Don't let the door hitcha where the Good Lord splitcha!"
dave™ |
Homepage |
11.12.05 - 1:16 pm | #
I believe that George Bush is not honest or ethical.
Mohandas Ghandi |
11.12.05 - 1:16 pm | #
MEWSWEEK - 32%
Gotta get my copy from my cat...
dave™ |
Homepage |
11.12.05 - 1:16 pm | #
And let me say, the only good thing about having gum treatments is that you don't have to think about it again for six months.
ql in ny
I hear ya. I'm grateful that I have a very high pain threshold. The shit they do to me doesn't bother me that much because of it.
Tena |
Homepage |
11.12.05 - 1:17 pm | #
Lookin' weak, yeah, whereas now we appear a Colossus astride the globe.
stencil |
11.12.05 - 1:17 pm | #
Will somebody tell this to Sean Hannity, please?
Becuase just this week he did a segment on his radio show claiming that WMD were found in Iraq.
Vicki
Hannity just keeps on getting dumber and dumber.
Terry C |
11.12.05 - 1:18 pm | #
I'm grateful that I have a very high pain threshold. The shit they do to me doesn't bother me that much because of it.
Honey, you are so butch!
(And that's a good thing!)
dave™ |
Homepage |
11.12.05 - 1:19 pm | #
OT, but Gilliard's got some good coverage on the impending departure of moronic brownshirt fucks from the Episcopal Church.
Never happen. As the article points out -- the Church owns the property. The new 'parishes' would be holding services in empty strip malls.
Not the kind of ambiance likely to hold onto good Episcopalians for very long.
flory |
11.12.05 - 1:20 pm | #
Lime, did you forget to change into your MERKIN PATRIOT costume before you posted? Because this comment reads like a storyboard version of an MP production, before the full misspelling effects and labored sarcasm are added.
Little Brøther
No. MERKIN PATRIOT is in a class of his own. I doubt that his true identity will ever be revealed.
Who was that masked stranger?
Lime Rickey |
11.12.05 - 1:20 pm | #
Lookin' weak, yeah, whereas now we appear a Colossus astride the globe.
stencil
And everyone has a colossal hatred of us.
Yeah, that's real great.
Terry C |
11.12.05 - 1:20 pm | #
I wish wingnuts and hawks would fear looking stupid as much as they fear looking weak.
Another Bruce
Meanwhile, if you're in the Flagstaff area, you might want to check this out tomorrow:
Native American artist Larry Ashkie lives on the Navajo reservation just outside the little town of Pinon, Ariz. His house is more than 100 miles from Flagstaff, the closest town of any size, and he has to drive 15 miles just to fill his water tanks so he can flush his toilet. Luckily, he says, "we are right at the end of the power line,'' so he has electricity, even if some of his neighbors do not.
It is safe to say that Ashkie lives square in the middle of nowhere. But even there, in his corner of the Navajo Nation, there is an outpost of the Raider Nation where fans like Ashkie are as devout as any you'd find in the Black Hole.
"They were always kind of a goofy team,'' he says, "but I like them.''
And so it is that the Silver and Black will establish a milestone on Sunday as they play the Denver Broncos in what will be the first Raiders game ever broadcast to the Navajo Nation.
In Navajo.
"Raider Nation and Navajo Nation unite,'' says Patty Herrera, director of multicultural initiatives for the Raiders. "It couldn't be more perfect.''
We could treat this as a quirk, a bit of offbeat NFL trivia, but that's not how they see it in Window Rock, Ariz., the tribe's capital. The game will be broadcast on KTNN, a 50,000-watt AM station owned and operated by the Navajo Nation with the goal of keeping a dying language alive in an era when the young people are abandoning their heritage.
"That is a part of the mission, to keep the language alive,'' says Ernie Manuelito, who will be in the press box at McAfee Coliseum doing play-by-play with KTNN "sports and rodeo director'' L.A. Williams.
Sometimes it seems like uphill work. The elders speak Navajo, but not the kids. But there's been a commitment to the language, both in the schools -- Navajo children often sing the National Anthem and recite the Pledge of Allegiance in Navajo -- and on KTNN, which broadcasts almost entirely in Navajo. ..
dave™ |
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11.12.05 - 1:21 pm | #
Gilliard's got some good coverage on the impending departure of moronic brownshirt fucks from the Episcopal Church.
Their places will be taken by those dissatisfied by the Catholic Church's present management.
Terry C |
11.12.05 - 1:22 pm | #
Hannity's just buttering his toast. The 20 percent that aren't terrified with Cheney will parrot the nonsense before the turkey is served in two weeks.
stencil |
11.12.05 - 1:22 pm | #
Now I want waffles with real maple syrup.
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b: d,r f
Arabella |
11.12.05 - 1:23 pm | #
Not the kind of ambiance likely to hold onto good Episcopalians for very long.
Well, this isn't about the "good Episcopalians" - this is about the fundamentalist brownshirts who have been trying to drag the church back to the good old days in Germany circa 1942.
One of the players in this is/was (I have no way of knowing if he's still around) the bishop of the San Joaquin Diocese, which my mother was part of. She hated that prick with a white-hot passion, but wouldn't leave for the much-friendly diocese of nearby San Francisco (where they allowed women priests - and gays! Horrors!!!) because she wanted to fight the bastard every step of the way.
The wingnuts, as usual, have a martyr complex, so being forced to meet in strip malls would give them a real charge...
dave™ |
Homepage |
11.12.05 - 1:25 pm | #
We don't have a government. We have a crime syndicate that does nothing but campaign and commit felonies.
This should go up on every billboard across the country.
sister of ye |
11.12.05 - 1:25 pm | #
BTW, you know the definition of a "good Episcopalian"?
One who goes to church on Christmas and Easter.
And the definition of a "devout Episcopalian"?
They skip Easter.
Thank you! I'll be here all week!
dave™ |
Homepage |
11.12.05 - 1:27 pm | #
Another dick-brained Repug economist was just on CNN saying how wonderful it is that gas prices have gone down 30 cents in the last few weeks. No mention of the fact that they went up over $1 in the last year and are still well above the price of a year ago.
bob |
11.12.05 - 1:29 pm | #
I want wine, cheese & bread, and something crunchy. But, I'd have to put on pants.
1watt.Secret Squirrel |
11.12.05 - 1:30 pm | #
No mention of the fact that they went up over $1 in the last year and are still well above the price of a year ago.
A year ago, they were approaching $1.99 a gallon here in the outer Bay Area - already over two bucks in SF proper.
People were livid!
dave™ |
Homepage |
11.12.05 - 1:30 pm | #
No mention of the fact that they went up over $1 in the last year and are still well above the price of a year ago.
bob
George Will is always glad to point out that gas was the current equivalent of about $276/gal. in 1980.
Max Planck |
11.12.05 - 1:31 pm | #
Gas has been 1.99 here for the past week.
1watt.Secret Squirrel |
11.12.05 - 1:33 pm | #
A year ago, they were approaching $1.99 a gallon here in the outer Bay Area - already over two bucks in SF proper.
People were livid!
dave™ | Email | Homepage | 11.12.05 - 1:30 pm
I remember driving by a station in the city a couple of months ago where the posted price was over $5/gallon. We wondered whether it was a joke.
bob |
11.12.05 - 1:33 pm | #
A year ago, they were approaching $1.99 a gallon here in the outer Bay Area - already over two bucks in SF proper.
People were livid!
dave™ | Email | Homepage | 11.12.05 - 1:30 pm
I remember driving by a station in the city a couple of months ago where the posted price was over $5/gallon. We wondered whether it was a joke.
bob |
11.12.05 - 1:33 pm | #
Another dick-brained Repug economist was just on CNN saying how wonderful it is that gas prices have gone down 30 cents in the last few weeks. No mention of the fact that they went up over $1 in the last year and are still well above the price of a year ago.
bob
They say nothing, I gather, about the SUVs no longer selling and people with them are trying to unload them.
Terry C |
11.12.05 - 1:33 pm | #
The wingnuts, as usual, have a martyr complex, so being forced to meet in strip malls would give them a real charge...
dave™
Most of the strip malls in Jersey have been abandoned, to add to the eyesoreness of the landscape.
Lime Rickey |
11.12.05 - 1:33 pm | #
(32% was economy, not job approval)
I'm always puzzled as to how the secondary poll results for Shrub are always lower than the job approval number.
Max Planck |
11.12.05 - 1:35 pm | #
Had the same intel?
Reminder: In October 2001, President AWOL limited access to classified intel to only eight members of Congress (three or four of which would kiss his ass and lie for him on cue). http://www.thinkprogress.org/200...pulls-security/
Reminder footnote: that executive power grab was precipitated by the egregious indiscretion of an R Senator, either Hatch or Shelby or both.
Karl Rove, future chairman of the Christian Felonship Committee, still has his security clearance.
Freedom of the press is an enumerated right under our Constitution.
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QuentinCompson |
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11.12.05 - 1:35 pm | #
It was a serious error on the Bushies' part to piss off the Agency. I think that Patrick Fitzgerald has a whole squadron of Deep Throats helping him out, and their three little initials ain't F.B.I.
If the polls continue to fall, even the Republicans may start talking about impeachment, to save their own hides.
It is becoming increasingly obvious to the country (even a majority of those who voted for these idiots) that we dare not have Three More Years at the hands of Dubya. New York, Washington, New Orleans and every town that has lost a son or daughter to his murderous invasion, all damaged beyond repair by his administration's willful disregard of warnings.
I think America has had just about enough.
David Derbes |
11.12.05 - 1:39 pm | #
In the meantime, this lies-based, misbegotten war is bleeding our economy to the point where our mortgage is held by such countries as China.
And this regime hasn't a clue as to how to get us out of this mess, even though there are some people making suggestions as to how to start.
I blogged on a Milton Viorst op-ed piece in the NY Times this morning.
Diane |
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11.12.05 - 1:39 pm | #
I think America has had just about enough.
It appears that you are correct, David.
The Dems need to wake up and get to work. And show up real pissed off.
Billy B |
11.12.05 - 1:42 pm | #
The Laptop
Relying on Computer, U.S. Seeks to Prove Iran's Nuclear Aims
In mid-July, senior American intelligence officials called the leaders of the international atomic inspection agency to the top of a skyscraper overlooking the Danube in Vienna and unveiled the contents of what they said was a stolen Iranian laptop computer.
The Americans flashed on a screen and spread over a conference table selections from more than a thousand pages of Iranian computer simulations and accounts of experiments, saying they showed a long effort to design a nuclear warhead, according to a half-dozen European and American participants in the meeting.
res ipsa loquitur |
11.12.05 - 1:42 pm | #
"I wish President Bush knew better than to dishonour America's veterans by playing the politics of fear and smear on Veterans Day," said Democratic Senator John Kerry, who ran unsuccessfully against Bush last year. Kerry is also a veteran of the Vietnam War.
is commander coward even smart enough to be considered a scoundrel?
billie |
11.12.05 - 1:43 pm | #
Now this is interesting. It appears the Philadelphia Inquirer rewrote much of the Buffer & Landay article to make it more favorable (or at least, less unfavorable) to Bush. The version on K-R's on web site is here and is much harder-hitting. For instance, it reads...
But the administration's assertions about Iraq's ties to al-Qaida weren't supported by U.S. intelligence agencies. In fact, prewar CIA reports found no operational cooperation between Iraq and al-Qaida, a conclusion also reached by the independent 9/11 commission. Moreover, CIA reports discounted the possibility that Saddam would turn chemical or biological weapons over to terrorists.
The White House also relied on bogus and exaggerated information from Iraqi defectors supplied by the Iraqi National Congress, a former exile group with close ties to Cheney and senior Pentagon hawks, even after U.S. intelligence officials had rejected their claims.
and ends with
Bush's speech coincided with a new poll that found that six out of 10 Americans don't believe that the president is honest or that his administration has high ethical standards. The Associated Press-Ipsos poll pegged Bush's popularity at 37 percent.
I was at my parent's place along with most of the rest of my family a couple of weeks ago, and we were all sitting around watching TV when one of the local news talking heads came on and chirped "Cheap Gas is Back!" with a picture of a gas station behind her selling regular for $2.56. The entire room erupted in a blast of derision.
I wonder what TV news anchors do to occupy their minds while they talk?
Doc |
11.12.05 - 1:47 pm | #
Wait - George Bush is President? I thought everybody was kidding! I need to watch tv more . . .
The descriptions this year of the Assministration have gone from "mandate" to "political miscalculation" to "puzzling series of misfires" to "adrift" to "bunker mentality" to "serious trouble".
The Rove "magic" is not only not working for them anymore, it's quite effectively working against them now, and they don't know what to do about it.
Max Planck |
11.12.05 - 1:48 pm | #
She hated that prick with a white-hot passion, but wouldn't leave for the much-friendly diocese of nearby San Francisco (where they allowed women priests - and gays! Horrors!!!) because she wanted to fight the bastard every step of the way.
That's my point. The wingnut pastors and bishops might want to secede but good chunks of their congregations are like your mother. If the pastor leaves, they'll find a new pastor/bishop and keep on keeping on -- cuz they'll still have the church facilties.
The wingnut will be in the strip mall with the 25% of the congregations thats as nutty as he.
flory |
11.12.05 - 1:48 pm | #
Remember that State Department map which showed all of the countries AQ had operations? The only country in the ME that didn't have ties was Iraq.
1watt.Secret Squirrel |
11.12.05 - 1:49 pm | #
It appears I was in error:
36%
Oh.
Well, I guess Holden can put off the stable clean-up til next week then.
flory |
11.12.05 - 1:51 pm | #
Sheesh, two-thirds of the electorate don't believe the president is honest or ethical.
Some mandate to be "governing" with, eh?
Diane |
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11.12.05 - 1:53 pm | #
The Rove "magic" is not only not working for them anymore, it's quite effectively working against them now, and they don't know what to do about it.
Max Planck
Been wondering if this was related to the GAO's findings that BuschCo. couldn't pay jounalists to spout off for them?
1watt.Secret Squirrel |
11.12.05 - 1:54 pm | #
its more snakes than ladders for the Bush Junta.
Moonbootica, Honourable Friend |
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11.12.05 - 1:56 pm | #
Baseless attacks? Not when you're talking about the chimp in chief. That man is a spectacular fuck up.
doug, |
11.12.05 - 1:57 pm | #
Every "leader" on the subject, including Clinton, Chirac, Bush I, Berger, etc. stated they beleived Saddam had WMD.
The fact that we found none tells me two things:
1. Bush is trustworthy enough to tell us this fact and not "plant" weapons, like Bubba no doubt would've done.
Bush deserves only the most nastiest and withering insults.
he deserves no respect or mercy.
fuck Bush and fuck his Junta.
Moonbootica, Honourable Friend |
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11.12.05 - 1:58 pm | #
why doesn't the media pick up again on early stories, before bush was even inaugurated for his first term, that he already had intentions to invade iraq? there were references in several places, including, I believe, richard clarke's book.
samlex |
11.12.05 - 1:59 pm | #
(Well, mostly Paul Craig Roberts, but a bit 'o Wolcott, too.)
res ipsa loquitur |
11.12.05 - 2:00 pm | #
Gee I can't help but notice that you are ignoring the recent 19 page essay by physics proffesor Jones at BYU stating that the WTC was obviously taken down by prepositioned explosives and had to be an inside job. Looks like your just as bad as the MSM Atrios. You PUSSY
HEh |
11.12.05 - 2:00 pm | #
Whoops, and now for number two:
Second, if the whole WORLD beleived them to be there, they likely WERE there. Funny how not one of y'all has raised the possibility of them being in Syria.
TexasChiliBean |
11.12.05 - 2:00 pm | #
What I don't understand Is the recurring willingness
among some journalists to continue carrying water
for the RETHUGS after they see the results of 5 years of BushWorld. When Scottie said "we have a proud record of accomplishment" the other day
I waited for the White House press corps to drown him out laughing, but they're still too cowed to do it.
plantsman |
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11.12.05 - 2:01 pm | #
The fact that we found no WMD's tells us one thing -- THERE WERE NONE.
And if Fredo had let the weapons inspectors finish their job, we could have proven that fact beyond any doubt without 2200 Americans and countless Iraqis having to die.
flory |
11.12.05 - 2:02 pm | #
Get your head out of your ass texaschilibean. Saddam's brother inlaw admitted in 1996 that the WMD were destroyed. Stop trying to justify president bitch's hard on for killing arabs
HEh |
11.12.05 - 2:02 pm | #
I'm always puzzled as to how the secondary poll results for Shrub are always lower than the job approval number.
The respondents cut him slack because he's such a loveable goofball(/snark)
nsr |
11.12.05 - 2:02 pm | #
ummm so how could saddam shipped wmds to Syria without the spy satellites knowing?
surely somebody would of notice?
why would Syria want the hassle of Saddam's supposed WMDs?
Saddam bluffed, he had no WMDs but decided to puff up his chest and boast to stave off attack. its all he could do, he was a tin pot dictator in some run down third world country. he pose no threat to the west, for all intents and purposes he was mayor of Baghdad.
Moonbootica, Honourable Friend |
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11.12.05 - 2:03 pm | #
the only wmds are in the wingnuts minds.
Moonbootica, Honourable Friend |
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11.12.05 - 2:03 pm | #
"we have a proud record of accomplishment"
Like a baby who smiles when he shits his diapers. "look what I did".
Cute when a baby does this, but adults?
doug, |
11.12.05 - 2:04 pm | #
I know Poppy hit that low in '92. Is DimSon that low now, too?
My coffee went all over the screen with that one...time for windex and paper towels...but I did miss the keyboard. Hilarious...I had not heard the term dimson before...
elroy |
11.12.05 - 2:04 pm | #
Gee I can't help but notice that you are ignoring the recent 19 page essay by physics proffesor Jones at BYU stating that the WTC was obviously taken down by prepositioned explosives and had to be an inside job. Looks like your just as bad as the MSM Atrios. You PUSSY
HEh |
11.12.05 - 2:04 pm | #
the only wmds are in the wingnuts minds.
Moonbootica, Honourable Friend
Certain wingnut minds (Cheney, Dumsfeld, Feith, Perle, Wolfowitz) actually qualify as WMDs.
flory |
11.12.05 - 2:05 pm | #
"Saddam's brother inlaw admitted in 1996 that the WMD were destroyed."
So, Saddam's brother in law is your primary source now?
Jeesus H.
I guess France and the UN were wrong when they authorized sanctions for Saddam's failure to comply with resolutions to disarm WMD programs after 1996.
TexasChiliBean |
11.12.05 - 2:05 pm | #
Every "leader" on the subject, including Clinton, Chirac, Bush I, Berger, etc. stated they beleived Saddam had WMD.
The fact that we found none tells me two things:
1. Bush is trustworthy enough to tell us this fact and not "plant" weapons, like Bubba no doubt would've done
It's the Clenis™ I tells ya, the Clenis™ did it. It wasn't Bush's fault - it's the Democrats' fault for not stopping him.
What a crock of unmitigated shit. And no one is buying it anymore, Chiliass.
Tena |
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11.12.05 - 2:06 pm | #
Every "leader" on the subject, including Clinton, Chirac, Bush I, Berger, etc. stated they beleived Saddam had WMD.
None of these folks got over 2000 US citizens killed.
The fact that we found none tells me two things:
1. Bush is trustworthy enough to tell us this fact and not "plant" weapons, like Bubba no doubt would've done.
58% of the American electorate do not share the sentiment that Little Boots if "trustworthy". That number is rising with a bullet.
The CLinton BS you were about to mention is just that.
You ain't got nuthin' better than that? Amateur.
Billy B |
11.12.05 - 2:06 pm | #
That fucker Chalabi is on C-SPAN.
Don't turn it on, or his death rays will come straight out of the teevee and next thing you know, you too will be arguing for the suspension of habeas corpus.
res ipsa loquitur |
11.12.05 - 2:06 pm | #
The tipping point, and it occurred one year too late, is that the American electorate, gullible as it is, has finally become fucking sick and tired of being afraid.
Losing the fear gravy train is fatal to fascism.
Max Planck |
11.12.05 - 2:07 pm | #
Labour MPs plan to defy Tony Blair by voting to outlaw smoking in all pubs despite the Government backing away from a total ban. Senior ministers believe the Health Bill, which would allow smoking in pubs that do not serve food, will be beefed up during its passage through Parliament.
Anti-smoking MPs will table amendments calling for a ban in all pubs, and ministers have been warned they face possible defeat in the Commons and the Lords. Mr Blair opposes a total ban and, after suffering his first Commons defeat on the Terrorism Bill on Wednesday, the looming rebellion could be seen as another sign that he is losing his authority.
Moonbootica, Honourable Friend |
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11.12.05 - 2:07 pm | #
Saddam's brother inlaw was incharge of Saddam's WMD's and was executed by Saddam after being tricked into returning to Iraq. But ofcorse being from Texas I fully understand why you are ignorant of any real facts.
HEh |
11.12.05 - 2:07 pm | #
Every "leader" on the subject, including Clinton, Chirac, Bush I, Berger, etc. stated they beleived Saddam had WMD.
The fact that we found none tells me two things:
1. Bush is trustworthy enough to tell us this fact and not "plant" weapons, like Bubba no doubt would've done.
2.
TexasChiliBean | 11.12.05 - 1:58 pm
What else does the COSMOS tell you, beanhead?
no bs |
11.12.05 - 2:07 pm | #
Every "leader" on the subject, including Clinton, Chirac, Bush I, Berger, etc. stated they beleived Saddam had WMD.
The fact that we found none tells me two things:
1. Bush is trustworthy enough to tell us this fact and not "plant" weapons, like Bubba no doubt would've done.
2.
TexasChiliBean | 11.12.05 - 1:58 pm
What else does the COSMOS tell you, beanhead?
no bs |
11.12.05 - 2:07 pm | #
I guess France and the UN were wrong when they authorized sanctions for Saddam's failure to comply with resolutions to disarm WMD programs after 1996.
I thought you wingnuts thought the French were wrong on everything?
Now the wingnuts are using the French to bolster their arguments?
res ipsa loquitur |
11.12.05 - 2:07 pm | #
Will somebody tell this to Sean Hannity, please?
Becuase just this week he did a segment on his radio show claiming that WMD were found in Iraq.
Vicki
With W as low as 32% approval and the extremist wingnuts bringing down the GOP with their exposed looniness, I picture these hate radio/tv freaks as crocodiles during the Kalahari dry season, fighting for dominance and space in ever shrinking mud puddles.
Let's face it, the hate-mongers hate each other as much as the rest of us do. They are in direct competition in a world where talent has no significance, and their insecurity over the arbitrary nature of success in that field pits them against each other when the prey (wingnut listeners/viewers) gets lean in times of drought.
Darwinian forces will prevail and the biggest and meanest (and wackiest) will finally settle in the thick muddy soup of late night weekend time slots that hate radio will shrink to in the pending years, awaiting a new deluge of fascism to spawn anew.
cole the Younger |
11.12.05 - 2:07 pm | #
That fucker Chalabi is on C-SPAN.
That knocking sound you hear is Judy's head against the podium.
(apologies to 'Turk and WT)
Jay C. |
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11.12.05 - 2:07 pm | #
Jay C. i think i might need a brain bleach.
horrible image you just created there!
Moonbootica, Honourable Friend |
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11.12.05 - 2:08 pm | #
Khaled Hosseini, author of "The Kite Runner", is on c-span2/BookTV.
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QuentinCompson |
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11.12.05 - 2:10 pm | #
"And 2..." You are an irredeemable asshole.
It's A Wonderful Lie |
11.12.05 - 2:10 pm | #
Second, if the whole WORLD beleived them to be there, they likely WERE there. Funny how not one of y'all has raised the possibility of them being in Syria.
The whole WORLD was against the US invading Iraq. At least the large majority that count were.
Where's your proof about WMDs?
Kind of fucks up your story that we've been there for 2 1/2 years and none have been found,eh?
Let's have ourselves an action from the grassroots: Let's just CALL it, say this administration is done, eighty-sixed, off the menu and demand resignations across the board from the executive and the leaders of the majority in Congress. Nothing in the Constitution prohibits it, and when 68% of the public think we're going in the wrong direction, upheaval sure beats one year or three years of dissolution.
brain blob |
11.12.05 - 2:11 pm | #
Second, if the whole WORLD beleived them to be there, they likely WERE there. Funny how not one of y'all has raised the possibility of them being in Syria.
They are definitely in Syria.
And Iran.
Tell me, will you be enlisting to go help find them and save us all from certain death?
res ipsa loquitur |
11.12.05 - 2:11 pm | #
i thought Saddam had a base on the moon where he stored his wmds!
Moonbootica, Honourable Friend |
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11.12.05 - 2:12 pm | #
I know where the WMDs have been hidden, in Rush Limbaugh's anal cyst.
doug, |
11.12.05 - 2:13 pm | #
Second, if the whole WORLD beleived them to be there, they likely WERE there. Funny how not one of y'all has raised the possibility of them being in Syria.
TexasChiliBean | 11.12.05 - 2:00 pm | #
(hand up) Actually, I wonder why no one has raised the possibility that they were smuggled into Pellucidar by the Mahar.
cole the Younger |
11.12.05 - 2:13 pm | #
I guess if the WHOLE WORLD believes that the sky is made of paper and the stars are just a light on the other side shining though pinholes in the paper, that makes it true, eh, chiliass?
That's the sum total of your argument.
It's time for you to go.
Tena |
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11.12.05 - 2:14 pm | #
Don't worry, Shrillary CLintoon will save you in 2008.
That's when I'LL BE BUYING THE POPCORN!!
I gotta run now. Don't turn them light off and do anything weird...
TexasChiliBean |
11.12.05 - 2:14 pm | #
too bad the electronic media keeps trying to promote the Bush theme the Democrats are unpatriotic of course..if one did vote against or speak against the war in the past --then they were attacked by Busho for being inleague with the enemy --let's not forget their performance against Patty Murrary for suggesting that we might want to think about why some people don't appreciate the policies of the US --
Nora ODonnell from MSGOP practically gave Bushco a blowjob on air -and every hance she gets she asks some Democrat .."well what is your plan"
the plan is to try to undo all the damage done by Bush you stupid wnna be Maureen Down -a few more botox shots and you will be there
Liars for Bush |
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11.12.05 - 2:14 pm | #
ummm so how could saddam shipped wmds to Syria without the spy satellites knowing? surely somebody would of notice?
He built a tunnel. That's right, a real long tunnel. All the way from Baghdad to Damascus. Yeah, Baghdad to Damascus, that's the ticket. [/Tommy Flanagan]
sister of ye |
11.12.05 - 2:15 pm | #
(hand up) Actually, I wonder why no one has raised the possibility that they were smuggled into Pellucidar by the Mahar.
Maybe they're in Texas!
Maybe Fredo should McFlightSuit up again and wipe the whole fucking state clean off the map!
Texas Atriots will be alerted first, of course.
res ipsa loquitur |
11.12.05 - 2:16 pm | #
I'm serious. Let's call for mass resignations in the government. We don't need the MSM for that.
brain blob |
11.12.05 - 2:16 pm | #
I guess France and the UN were wrong when they authorized sanctions for Saddam's failure to comply with resolutions to disarm WMD programs after 1996.
TexasChiliBean
Now the troll is arguing with itself. Note to troll: Sanctions do not equal invasion.
To correct a quote from your boy Rummy:
Absence of evidence is proof of non-existence.
Billy B |
11.12.05 - 2:16 pm | #
Run away, Chiliass, Run away!
Brave young Chiliass, got his chiliass handed to him and he's running away like the scared little piece of shit he is.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out, you chickenshit.
Tena |
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11.12.05 - 2:18 pm | #
Of course, the invasion of Syria is next. Some will try pulling the old WMD three card monte trick again, some will use the Harrari assasination as the pretext, there may be some new "incident" that makes air strikes by dawn an A-1 priority and the cry will go up from the bunker "Shut Up! Shut Up!"
catalexis |
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11.12.05 - 2:18 pm | #
Nora ODonnell from MSGOP practically gave Bushco a blowjob on air -and every hance she gets she asks some Democrat .."well what is your plan"
Why can't Dean, or Reid, or somebody answer that tired ass distraction question with "These people are a clear and present danger to humanity. My plan is to get them out of power as soon as is possible."
Max Planck |
11.12.05 - 2:18 pm | #
Syria? Please. Those folks aren't stupid.
Didn't help Saddam much.
Anal Roberts |
11.12.05 - 2:18 pm | #
Gotta run. Mom needs the computer back to find those pictures she uses before we go down in the basement.
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TexasChiliBean |
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11.12.05 - 2:19 pm | #
ALERT: I'm in barnes & noble, having cracked Malkin's book, looking for King Leopold.
I haven't yet got past the back cover and the iundex, but have alread uncovered some amazing malkin hypocrisy!
See my homepage.
The King Leopold hunt continues...
Thers |
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11.12.05 - 2:19 pm | #
Brave young Chiliass, got his chiliass handed to him and he's running away like the scared little piece of shit he is.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out, you chickenshit.
Damn, girlfriend. That's impressive. Proud of you.
Billy B |
11.12.05 - 2:19 pm | #
catalexis - and what pray tell is Bush going to use for an army to invade Syria and hold it?
I don't think so.
Tena |
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11.12.05 - 2:20 pm | #
Now now, "Tena," Old Uncle TCB is still watching you. Better be nice or I'll go back and show how inane your "logic" really is to all these fine people.
Don't mess with Texas, or TCB.
TexasChiliBean |
11.12.05 - 2:21 pm | #
For idjit trolls to argue that the WMD don't matter because they THOUGHT there were some and it was better to be safe than sorry..blah, blah, blah, while totally ignorant of the evidence of history and human motivation, at least shows some basic attempt to reason.
For total assholes like Mr. Bean, arguing that Hussein outfoxed, outsmarted, and fooled the combined intelligence agencies and militarys of the US, UK and coalition forces kinda makes him look, well, pathetic.
I hope he has no dogs at home to kick. Life around this frustrated fuck is going to be rough for his family. Shame.
cole the Younger |
11.12.05 - 2:22 pm | #
These trolls are as dumb as their shitforbrains president and could not follow the logic of their positions if you gave them a map and an endless supply of bread crumbs.
So do not feed them. Enjoy their death by starvation.
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QuentinCompson |
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11.12.05 - 2:25 pm | #
Brave young chiliass - you do that sweetie. But it's going to be a bit difficult to prove something while running away as fast as your chickenshit little legs can carry you.
You're over. Bush is over. The Bush Cult is dead. The right is over.
I'll never in my lifetime forget or forgive a United States President getting up in front of group of reporters and performing a clumsy Borsht Belt standup routine concerning the whereabouts of the WMD that sent 2,100 trusting kids to their gory death.
The shame is unspeakable, in my estimation.
Max Planck |
11.12.05 - 2:26 pm | #
Don't mess with Texas, or TCB.
TexasChiliBean | 11.12.05 - 2:21 pm | #
How pathetic. This nobody freak equates himself with the state of Texas? I'm not from Texas, but have done much training there. I didn't find anything to match the idiocy of this guy/gal.
Someone from Texas wanna disuade him of the notion that he represents y'all?
cole the Younger |
11.12.05 - 2:26 pm | #
Sister of ye - yeah, I could have gone all "That's the Way the Girls are in Texas" on him, but fuck him - he isn't worth it.
Born here, chiliass?
Where do you live? I'm in Dallas, asshole.
Don't mess with Texas, indeed.
Tena |
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11.12.05 - 2:27 pm | #
Blair is equally deserving of shame and disgust with the way he backed Bush on this illegal and ammoral fuck up.
Moonbootica, Honourable Friend |
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11.12.05 - 2:27 pm | #
Blair sucks. I wish him bloody nightmares.
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QuentinCompson |
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11.12.05 - 2:28 pm | #
I'll never in my lifetime forget or forgive a United States President getting up in front of group of reporters and performing a clumsy Borsht Belt standup routine concerning the whereabouts of the WMD that sent 2,100 trusting kids to their gory death.
The shame is unspeakable, in my estimation.
Max Planck
exactamundo!
"Bring 'em on!" was just as callous, I'd like to add.
trools?
my friends call me karl
Archibald Tuttle |
11.12.05 - 2:29 pm | #
Police in the French city of Lyon have fired tear gas to break up groups of youths who hurled stones and bins hours before a curfew was due to begin.
Police on the city's famous Place Bellecour square made two arrests in what state news agency AFP says is the first rioting in a major city centre.
Lyon has imposed a curfew for the first time in two weeks of nationwide unrest.
Thousands of police are patrolling Paris to enforce a ban on all public meetings likely to provoke rioting.
Moonbootica, Honourable Friend |
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11.12.05 - 2:30 pm | #
Blair sucks. I wish him bloody nightmares.
I wish him a bloody flux.
Tena |
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11.12.05 - 2:30 pm | #
So do not feed them. Enjoy their death by starvation.
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QuentinCompson | Homepage | 11.12.05 - 2:25 pm | #
Sorry, QC--while I appreciate that you are quite probably correct about the masochistic nature of these attention hounds, I am so disgusted and angered at the rape of my nation and dignity that I don't mind feeding them their own teeth once in awhile.
I'd gladly leave this fuck broken in a corner smiling his toothless, bloody grin of pain/pleasure after beating him half to death.
cole the Younger |
11.12.05 - 2:30 pm | #
Don't mess with Texas
You'd better be careful beanbag, some Texans are armed.
Texas Ranger |
11.12.05 - 2:30 pm | #
Better be nice or I'll go back and show how inane your "logic" really is to all these fine people.
Funny. There's not the least bit of "logic", not to mention "truth", in anything the troll has posted on this thread.
Billy B |
11.12.05 - 2:30 pm | #
i wish Blair the pox!
Moonbootica, Honourable Friend |
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11.12.05 - 2:31 pm | #
When the real history of these years is written, by real historians doing real research -- and that may take decades, because Bush will put all of his records under SUPER TOP SEEKRIT seal until he's dead -- any wingnuts who still cling to the Faux News spin may well be sent to their own graves.
pseudonymous in nc |
11.12.05 - 2:31 pm | #
Thersites, if you're still out there ~ Fabulous post over at metacomments!
Woo Hoo! I loved reading it, and the way you put it together. Thanks.
Vicki |
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11.12.05 - 2:32 pm | #
those in the future will have the benefit of hindsight thats for sure.
Moonbootica, Honourable Friend |
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11.12.05 - 2:32 pm | #
This nobody freak equates himself with the state of Texas?
He's busily trying to get fat enough to spread himself across the state map.
pseudonymous in nc |
11.12.05 - 2:32 pm | #
I should say that I appreciated Blair speaking well in the immediate 9/11 aftermath when Shrub was too scared and untalented to rub two sentences together without sounding like the weak doofus he is. But the Poodle exhausted that gratitude long, long ago as the principal enabler of the ensueing atrocities committed against US national security.
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QuentinCompson |
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11.12.05 - 2:33 pm | #
It was all bullshit anyway. Dubya/Cheney Crime, Inc were gonna get their war/s going come what may.
For corporate profits, oil revenue, imperialism, cronyism(Carlyle Group, etc.), and all their other evil little reasons. The Downing Street memo alone proved all this. Millions of us knew it before the war. Blatent war mongering our corporate news whores ignored along with everything else.
They're war criminals the whole lot of them. GRRRrrr!!
rondea, ghost |
11.12.05 - 2:34 pm | #
Blair is guilty of domestic crimes as well.
his horrendos plans to privatise health and education.
and the wasteful spending and support of fucking PPP/PFI.
Fuck Nu Labour! bunch of ex-Trots runing my country.
Moonbootica, Honourable Friend |
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11.12.05 - 2:34 pm | #
not to mention the government obession with creating headlines, locking people up without any trial and thinking new laws will solve everything.
Moonbootica, Honourable Friend |
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11.12.05 - 2:36 pm | #
Thers - I left you comment. Basically, I just said I hoped you would let me know if you run into my comments in Maglagulag's book. I'm going to be terribly disappointed if my truly awful Maglagulag comments haven't made the cut.
Tena |
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11.12.05 - 2:36 pm | #
Becuase just this week he did a segment on his radio show claiming that WMD were found in Iraq.
Yeah, there's a book from the Human Events nutjobs who stretches these finds into 'WMD! WMD!'
* uranium at Tuwaitha that was under IAEA seal, remained under seal until the invasion, was then abandoned and left unsecured by the invading US troops
* a few old (1990ish), defunct chem shells from the weapons dumps looted by insurgents and used, unsuccessfully, in IEDs.
Actually, I think that Saddam smuggled his WMD caches up TexasBeanDip's fat ass.
pseudonymous in nc |
11.12.05 - 2:38 pm | #
I'll never in my lifetime forget or forgive a United States President getting up in front of group of reporters and performing a clumsy Borsht Belt standup routine concerning the whereabouts of the WMD that sent 2,100 trusting kids to their gory death.
The shame is unspeakable, in my estimation.
That episode sums up Bush as a person better than any other that I can think of.
Marwood |
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11.12.05 - 2:38 pm | #
Tena,
Your magalangagong comments were, indeed, truly awful, but they were absolutely hilarious, and she deserved everything you said.
Not to be a bitch or anything...
Vicki |
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11.12.05 - 2:39 pm | #
I also understand Blair is destroying the British military almost as effectively as President AWOL is doing over here. He and the despicable Shrub are truly soul mates.
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QuentinCompson |
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11.12.05 - 2:39 pm | #
Hey, pseudonymous in nc, I gather from past comments that you are a Brit living in Western NC.
Coincidentally, I just relocated from north of Asheville to Norwich this past summer.
cole the Younger |
11.12.05 - 2:39 pm | #
Idiot America is a bad place for crazy notions. Its indolent tolerance of them causes the classic American crank to drift slowly and dangerously into the mainstream, wherein the crank loses all of his charm and the country loses another piece of its mind. The best thing about American crackpots used to be that they would stand proudly aloof from a country that, by their peculiar lights, had gone mad. Not today. Today, they all have book deals, TV shows, and cases pending in federal court.
Once, it was very hard to get into the public square and very easy to fall out of it. One ill-timed word, even a whiff of public scandal, and all the hard work you did in the grange hall on all those winter nights was for nothing. No longer. You can be Bill Bennett, gambling with both fists, but if your books still sell, you can continue to scold the nation about its sins. You can be Bill O'Reilly, calling up subordinates to proposition them both luridly and comically—loofahs? falafels?—and if more people tune in to watch you than tune in to watch some other blowhard, you can keep your job lecturing America about the dangers of its secular culture. Just don't be boring. And keep the ratings up. Idiot America wants to be entertained.
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11.12.05 - 2:41 pm | #
Vicki - that's why I'm counting on at least the worst of them making the cut.
I fucking want to be in that cunt's book as an example of a terrible liberal. When it comes to Maglagulag, there isn't anything that is really bad enough for her.
I've never felt such deep scorn for someone in my life. She's filth. She's garbage.
Tena |
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11.12.05 - 2:42 pm | #
Nu Lab are more close to the Neocons, its linked to their ex-trot background you see.
the cling onto the belief of 'world revolution'.
a seriously perverted fucked up ideology.
Moonbootica, Honourable Friend |
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11.12.05 - 2:42 pm | #
Coincidentally, I just relocated from north of Asheville to Norwich this past summer.
Wow. That's quite a change of scenery. It's a bit... flatter over there.
(Though Norwich is handier for flights to Amsterdam.)
pseudonymous in nc |
11.12.05 - 2:42 pm | #
I don't know about invading and holding, I'm guessing airstrikes. Really, what kind of army does Syria have? There hasn't been even a whisper of Syria developing weapons just these nutball assertions that Saddam got his weapons over to there somehow. If we really want to stretch the imagination a little bit we could see maybe the Peshmerga going so far as al-Hasakha.
catalexis |
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11.12.05 - 2:43 pm | #
We're about to see exactly how strong cognitive dissonance can be, as a tool of public policy.
I'm guessing perception of the President's integrity in the crapper, this "rewriting history" stuff won't fly. The polls show people making up their minds. Trying to rally support by pretending it's 2004, and the question of the war is still open, isn't going to win him any converts.
Seems more likely that his continued pigheadedness and inability to come up with a, you know, plan, will make the slide in public support accelerate.
nsr |
11.12.05 - 2:43 pm | #
Wow. That's quite a change of scenery. It's a bit... flatter over there.
(Though Norwich is handier for flights to Amsterdam.)
pseudonymous in nc | 11.12.05 - 2:42 pm | #
yeah--I'm already missing the mountains, but it's cool. Came through Amsterdam, but didn't have time to explore. Plan on going over this spring for a month or so. We'll see.
Gotta run. Y'all take care.
cole the Younger |
11.12.05 - 2:44 pm | #
I fucking want to be in that cunt's book as an example of a terrible liberal. When it comes to Maglagulag, there isn't anything that is really bad enough for her.
Given that La Maglalang prints the email addresses of her critics, you may have been overlooked. Perhaps it stung her just a bit too much to look in that mirror.
King Leopold, however, may well have made it past the galleys.
pseudonymous in nc |
11.12.05 - 2:44 pm | #
Having to use the ol' Archives backdoor action trick to see new posts, again, harumph!
Well, I'm gettin' my gotdamned french toast today, come hell or high water.
Defending his decision to go to war today, President Bush appeared in ruffled panties and Mary Janes pounding the point home that he must be trusted because he is cute and precocious. He then sang "I'm a little teapot, short and stout", beaming his winning smile and smirk at the crowd. His supporters gave him a thunderous standing ovation. Meanwhile, anti-american critics of the war said"What the fuck?". VicePresident Cheney addressed these critics by noting how they were cynical and unable to see the veracity and talent of this President. President Bush gave his own response by tossing his cookies in front of his audience revealing he had over indulged in all American Cotton Candy, Juju beads and orange crush. He received another round of applause from the crowd and a good many young men and women stepped forward to sign up for active duty and pledge their loayalty to the President, who had also changed his name to Shirley Temple Bush during the speech.
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11.12.05 - 2:46 pm | #
Really, what kind of army does Syria have?
They'll get an International Brigade. Seriously. There are enough people who don't like the Assads, but like the Syrians and their country.
It boggles my mind that the fundies seem happy to bomb one of the oldest continuous Christian communities.
But, y'know, they're not the right Christians. They speak Aramaic, not English like Jesus did.
pseudonymous in nc |
11.12.05 - 2:47 pm | #
pseudonymous - Well shit, if I am just going to be relegated to being taken to task by Ted fucking Rall for saying I want Maglagulag's head on a pike, then I've been robbed.
Goddamn it.
Ted Rall is not even 2d string nuts. He's the bottom of the barrel.
Tena |
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11.12.05 - 2:47 pm | #
The President of Syria is commander in chief of the Syrian armed forces, comprising some 320,000 troops upon mobilization. The military is a conscripted force; males serve 24 months in the military upon reaching the age of 18. About 14,000 Syrian soldiers were deployed in Lebanon until April 27, 2005, when the last of Syria's troops left the country after three decades
Moonbootica, Honourable Friend |
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11.12.05 - 2:47 pm | #
i think i would cry if Damascus was bombed, damaged and looted.
being a student of ancient history i just weep at the destruction of ancient sites!
Moonbootica, Honourable Friend |
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11.12.05 - 2:48 pm | #
Police are called upon for help as hurricane victims grow angry
By Jean-Paul Renaud
and Gregory Lewis Staff Writer
As desperation climbs and confusion spreads in the drawn-out aftermath of Hurricane Wilma, crowds encircling relief trucks and threatening its workers have forced police to escort supply vans out of hard-hit neighborhoods.
For three straight days, Red Cross relief vans trying to visit victims of Hurricane Wilma have been confronted by unruly crowds.
etc.
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Time to send in Brownie.
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QuentinCompson |
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11.12.05 - 2:49 pm | #
Tena: I'm taking my cameraphone to the bookshop today. If Maglagulag does mention you, there will be pictures.
pseudonymous in nc |
11.12.05 - 2:49 pm | #
Archaeologists have demonstrated that Syria was the center of one of the most ancient civilizations on earth. Around the excavated city of Ebla in north-eastern Syria, discovered in 1975, a great Semitic empire spread from the Red Sea north to Turkey and east to Mesopotamia from 2500 to 2400 B.C. The city of Ebla alone during that time had a population estimated at 260,000. Scholars believe the language of Ebla to be the oldest Semitic language. Other notable cities excavated include Mari, Ugarit and Dura Europos.
Moonbootica, Honourable Friend |
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11.12.05 - 2:50 pm | #
It boggles my mind that the fundies seem happy to bomb one of the oldest continuous Christian communities.
Did they ride dinosaurs to church?
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QuentinCompson |
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11.12.05 - 2:51 pm | #
The breakup of the Soviet Union — long the principal source of training, material, and credit for the Syrian forces — may have slowed Syria's ability to acquire modern military equipment. It is one of the most advanced of the Arab countries in developing non-conventional weapons, maintaining a chemical and biological stockpile. According to Eyal Zisser of Tel Aviv University, Syria has concentrated on the development of Sarin and VX gas, and has weaponized the gases with the development of chemical warheads. It also has an arsenal of advanced surface-to-surface missiles, capable of reaching most of the populated areas of Israel, Syria's longstanding enemy in the region. In the early 1990s, Scud-C missiles with a 500-kilometer range were procured from North Korea, and Scud-D, with a range of up to 700 kilometers, is being developed by Syria with the help of North Korea and Iran, according to Zisser.
Moonbootica, Honourable Friend |
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11.12.05 - 2:52 pm | #
Hmmmm -- OK, the Peshmerga invasion scenario is right out then. Thanks Moonbootica, Wiki is indeed our friend. The only way this could go down then is the "incident" followed by a draft thing and I know I'm tempting fate to say this but, no, they wouldn't do that. I guess I feel a little better now.
catalexis |
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11.12.05 - 2:52 pm | #
i think i would cry if Damascus was bombed, damaged and looted.
Many of my friends would get very very fucking angry. Aleppo, Palmyra, Damascus itself...
Iraq is steeped in a history that's somewhat shielded from the West; Syria's history is not shielded that way.
Americans have been dissuaded from travelling to Syria for ages, but when they do visit, they get treated like valuable curiousities.
pseudonymous in nc |
11.12.05 - 2:53 pm | #
Syria was occupied successively by Canaanites, Hebrews, Arameans, Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, Greeks, Romans, Nabataeans, Byzantines, Arabs, and, in part, Crusaders before finally coming under the control of the Ottoman Turks. Syria is significant in the history of Christianity; Paul was converted on the road to Damascus and established the first organized Christian Church at Antioch in ancient Syria, from which he left on many of his missionary journeys.
Damascus, the city that has been inhabited as early as 8,000 to 10,000 BC is known to be the oldest continuously inhabited city in the world. It came under Muslim rule in A.D. 636. Immediately thereafter, the city's power and prestige reached its peak, and it became the capital of the Omayyad Empire, which extended from Spain to the borders of China from A.D. 661 to A.D. 750, when the Abbasid caliphate was established at Baghdad, Iraq.
Moonbootica, Honourable Friend |
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11.12.05 - 2:53 pm | #
fucking haloscan is acting up, eating posts.
Tena |
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11.12.05 - 2:53 pm | #
But, y'know, they're not the right Christians. They speak Aramaic, not English like Jesus did.
As the General points out, the KJV was written to enable pious Americans to sound more "Jesusy" on their church marquees.
Jay C. |
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11.12.05 - 2:55 pm | #
Iraq is steeped in a history that's somewhat shielded from the West; Syria's history is not shielded that way
Well, I try not to dwell on what we've done to archaeological sites in Iraq, but there's now American graffiti on the Lion's Gate.
It's a nightmare.
Tena |
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11.12.05 - 2:56 pm | #
my mother is currently in Cairo, as part of a Scout trip.
she is meeting the regional heads of Arab scouting.
They will have a week of activities, networking and sightseeing.
a muslim pack from Birmigham and one from Bristol are also on the trip (in an they are off for the Hajj, their pilgmiage is being funded by the Saudi Government.
Moonbootica, Honourable Friend |
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11.12.05 - 2:56 pm | #
Is there anyone in the Gooper group that isn't gaga?
I mean when you look or listen to Magalung or O'Lielly or Flush or Anntrhax, you know that if given a full psyche exam, they would all be certified!
Is it the Gooper ideology that drives them mad or is the madness congenital???
Rudy |
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11.12.05 - 2:56 pm | #
that should be *In Jan.
Moonbootica, Honourable Friend |
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11.12.05 - 2:57 pm | #
pseudonymous in nc - Thank you and I anxiously await your return from the book store.
Tena |
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11.12.05 - 2:57 pm | #
*A Muslim Scout Group one from Bristol and one from Birmigham are doing a Hajj in Jan (which is being funded by the Saudi Government).
that is what i have been trying to say!
Moonbootica, Honourable Friend |
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11.12.05 - 2:58 pm | #
One of my Latin classes in college required us to visit an exhibit of Roman art from Syria when it made its way to Boston.
Very interesting stuff.
Jay C. |
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11.12.05 - 2:58 pm | #
Dang Moonbootica, it has been a dream of mine to visit Egypt ever since I was about 8 years old.
I really envy (and envy is bad) people who've been.
Tena |
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11.12.05 - 2:58 pm | #
Tena:
Besides the archeological sites we've ruined think about the Museum that was looted of some of the world's oldest artifacts, while US troops and tanks only guarded the Baghdad oil institute!!!
As Rumdum said, "We go to war with the army we have....." and they can't be expected to protect ancient treasures when there is oil information to be protected!!!
Rudy |
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11.12.05 - 2:59 pm | #
I went to Cairo last year Tena.
my friend who actually lives in Qatar has an apartment there, they holiday there for a monthi in the summer because Qatar is like too hot!
Amazing experience, busy city and a bit dusty but has a certain charm.
was a fufillment of a childhood dream to see the pyramids and the Egyptian Museum.
The Citadel was also a excellent place to visit!
Moonbootica, Honourable Friend |
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11.12.05 - 3:01 pm | #
I'm sure someone has already posted this here, but I find it highly amusing.
Anal Roberts |
11.12.05 - 3:02 pm | #
when i was in Tunisia we visited the Bardo Museum which has a huge collection of Mosacis.
the museum is based in an old Turkish Bey's palace.
Moonbootica, Honourable Friend |
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11.12.05 - 3:02 pm | #
Hey watertiger,
Did you notice the church bulletin photo The General has posted? Sure does verify your conclusion on the other one.
bill |
11.12.05 - 3:02 pm | #
During the second millennium BC, Syria was occupied successively by Canaanites, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Arameans as part of the general disruptions associated with the Sea Peoples. The Hebrews eventually settled south of Damascus, in the areas later known as Israel and Palestine; the Phoenicians settled along the coastline of these areas as well as in the west, in the area (Lebanon) already known for its cedars. Egyptians, Sumerians, Assyrians, Babylonians, and Hittites variously occupied the strategic ground of Syria during this period, as it was a marchland between their various empires. Eventually the Persians took control of Syria as part of their general control of Southwest Asia; this control transferred to the Greeks after Alexander the Great's conquests and thence to the Romans and the Byzantines.
Moonbootica, Honourable Friend |
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11.12.05 - 3:03 pm | #
*A Muslim Scout Group one from Bristol and one from Birmigham are doing a Hajj in Jan (which is being funded by the Saudi Government).
Kuhl. What badges are they working on?
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar |
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11.12.05 - 3:03 pm | #
GWPDA I don't know lol
my mum mentioned it in passing.
because of the atmosphere after 7/7 it has been kept pretty quiet.
Moonbootica, Honourable Friend |
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11.12.05 - 3:04 pm | #
being a student of ancient history i just weep at the destruction of ancient sites!
That's why I cried when Strom's penis fell off.
-Liddy Dole
bebe rebozo |
11.12.05 - 3:05 pm | #
the Musilm Scout Troop started off with less than 20 memebers, but ended up with 80.
the leaders beside doing the normal scout training take a special course tailored to muslim scout leaders.
Moonbootica, Honourable Friend |
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11.12.05 - 3:05 pm | #
God, I despise these fuckers.
patriotboy |
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11.12.05 - 3:06 pm | #
One of the interesting things about the art from Damascus was how the "new" deities were basically Photoshopped in with the old. Lots of Tyches mixed in.
Jay C. |
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11.12.05 - 3:06 pm | #
another "trust us" you're personal information is well secured.
Stolen Computer Has Credit Data for 3,600
Fri Nov 11, 7:46 PM ET
CHICAGO - A desktop computer stolen last month from one of the nation's three major credit bureaus contained
Social Security numbers and other credit information for as many as 3,600 people, the company confirmed Friday.
TransUnion LLC, which along with Equifax Inc. and Experian Information Solutions checks consumers' credit on behalf of banks and other lenders, acknowledged the security breach after it was first reported this week by the Privacy Times newsletter.
(CBS 5) Conservative Broadcaster Bill O’Reilly is making no apologies for his inflammatory comments about San Francisco.
"I'm from New York,” O’Reilly said on the radio Friday. “There are dozens of people in my neighborhood, on Long Island, who are dead because of 9/11, and you people are telling me you're not going to allow military recruiting out there. Hey, it's serious, and I think you guys need a wake-up call."
Moonbootica, Honourable Friend |
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11.12.05 - 3:16 pm | #
GWPDA will do
i shall ask her when she next texts me or happens to be online
Moonbootica, Honourable Friend |
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11.12.05 - 3:16 pm | #
The federal government should strengthen the health care system for veterans, retired Marine Gen. Joseph P. Hoar said Saturday in the Democratic Party's weekly radio address.
Speaking on the Veterans Day weekend, the former U.S. military commander in the Middle East said "President Bush has consistently refused to provide enough" money for veterans' health care.
"Earlier this year, his administration admitted that they were $1 billion short in funding for critical health care services," he said. "They also repeatedly tried to increase the cost of prescription drugs and health care services for veterans nationwide."
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Hoar also said, "Thousands of veterans returning from Iraq and Afghanistan will require mental health care, yet the Bush administration has not taken action to deal with this emerging problem."
In contrast, Democrats are working to improve the current health care system and strengthen mental health care services, he said.
"As a veteran and a former commander of U.S. forces in the Middle East, I have seen first hand the kind of sacrifices they are making for us. It's a debt we will never be able to repay," he said. "But we have a special duty to make sure our veterans receive the benefits they have earned and deserve when they return home."
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President AWOL, destroyer of worlds.
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QuentinCompson |
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11.12.05 - 3:16 pm | #
Oh my, looks like my alma mater is going up against Thers' later today.
Better put on my crash helmet.
Jay C., Demon Deacon |
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11.12.05 - 3:16 pm | #
O'Reilly is an idiot.
San Fransisco didn't ban military recruiting in the whole city. Just public schools.
HoneyBearKelly |
11.12.05 - 3:18 pm | #
Resume yer yapping about stuff...
Zap Rowsdower |
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11.12.05 - 3:19 pm | #
you people are telling me you're not going to allow military recruiting out there. Hey, it's serious, and I think you guys need a wake-up call."
This is so ignorant and so irritating on so many levels that all I can think to do is find some way to beat the fool about the head and shoulders until he springs multiple leaks.
But that's just me.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar |
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11.12.05 - 3:19 pm | #
Zap? Why have you put a hat on your cat?
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar |
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11.12.05 - 3:20 pm | #
Hey, O'Reilly! I got your Coit Tower right here. Suck it.
Who ya gonna believe, Quentin-- the Leader of the Free(p) World or some obscure retired Hoar?
Little Brøther |
11.12.05 - 3:23 pm | #
Zap? Why have you put a hat on your cat?
I swear...she doesn't wear it all of the time.
Zap Rowsdower |
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11.12.05 - 3:24 pm | #
San Fransisco didn't ban military recruiting in the whole city. Just public schools.
A lot of school districts that had extra funding with soda pop companies finally realised promoting bad health was not cool. I hope other districts follow SF's plan regarding miltary.
footlooseandfancyfree |
11.12.05 - 3:25 pm | #
Hey chickenbeavers ^_^
On the road again this weekend...so please clean out the troll stables and get W impeached while I'm away, k?
And NO PARTIES. The neighbors will be watching.
Nim |
11.12.05 - 3:28 pm | #
the rest of my search for King leopold in malkin's idiotic book is up. At my homepage.
No KL, no Tena (that I can find, anyway), but some pretty schweet hypocrisy!
Thers |
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11.12.05 - 3:31 pm | #
This morning I woke up with a revelation (NOT from the book).
If Bushco is telling the truth, why do they have to viciously attack those who question them, make them accountable?
This is the basic delusion of the American people, for not questioning.
If Bushco were innocent, there would not be a need for constant damage control via attacking the accusers.
Pitchforks and Torches |
11.12.05 - 3:31 pm | #
There are dozens of people in my neighborhood, on Long Island, who are dead
Longview |
11.12.05 - 3:33 pm | #
GWPDA - boy, no kidding. First of all, 9/11 and Iraq have nothing to do with each other beyond the junta's using 9/11 as an excuse.
It just goes on from there.
Tena |
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11.12.05 - 3:37 pm | #
i wonder if the Bush Junta will try and link 9/11 to Syria?
Moonbootica, Honourable Friend |
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11.12.05 - 3:37 pm | #
Well dammit, that ruined my whole weekend - I didn't make it into Maglagulag's book.
What does a person have to do? I called her a cunt, said I wanted her head on a pike, have told her to fuck herself sideways with a rusty chainsaw about 50 times. Sheesh.
Tena |
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11.12.05 - 3:38 pm | #
What does a person have to do? I called her a cunt, said I wanted her head on a pike, have told her to fuck herself sideways with a rusty chainsaw about 50 times. Sheesh.
Tena
Happens to the best of us.
There's always Jonah's new book...
Jay C. |
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11.12.05 - 3:40 pm | #
I wonder if the Bush junta will CREATE another 9/11, then blame Syria.
They're cornered, who knows what to expect.
Pitchforks and Torches |
11.12.05 - 3:40 pm | #
Tena perhaps she got a secrete thrill reading your posts about rusty chainsaws etc.......
Moonbootica, Honourable Friend |
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11.12.05 - 3:40 pm | #
Thers, where are you?
NYMary |
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11.12.05 - 3:41 pm | #
"None have ever been found."
Ricin? Nerve agents?
Granted they were not found in large quantities, but it seems to me if you are going to call Bush a liar, you should get your facts right.
The thought of giving that creaturet a secret thrill - ick ick ick
Tena |
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11.12.05 - 3:42 pm | #
I'm guessing perception of the President's integrity in the crapper, this "rewriting history" stuff won't fly. The polls show people making up their minds. Trying to rally support by pretending it's 2004, and the question of the war is still open, isn't going to win him any converts.
Seems more likely that his continued pigheadedness and inability to come up with a, you know, plan, will make the slide in public support accelerate.
I agree 100%. Indeed, in the last couple of months, his support has fallen after each one of his "major" we must stay the bullshit speeches. His "letting the propaganda sink in" strategy is having the opposite effect than what he had intended, but he is too blind to see it (obviously, he learned nothing from the dismal failure of his Social Security propaganda tour).
Needless to say, I hope he keeps it up.
Richard |
11.12.05 - 3:43 pm | #
According to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, Iraq had no involvement in 9-11, Iraq did have ties to Al Qaeda.
Thank you, that is all. Now you can get back to your torture humor, and calling people liars.
Cog |
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11.12.05 - 3:43 pm | #
Cog = Pure hatred.
Pitchforks and Torches |
11.12.05 - 3:44 pm | #
cog - stop now before you make any other totally fuckwitted statements.
you're out of your little bitty mind.
Tena |
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11.12.05 - 3:44 pm | #
so what?
still does not prove Iraq had anything to do with 9/11.
cog fails to realise that Bin Laden disliked Saddam, Saddam was a secular dictator, Bin Laden was a fundementalists.
Bin Laden even offered the Saudi Royal family to send his mujahdeen into Iraq to fight aganist this secular power.
Moonbootica, Honourable Friend |
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11.12.05 - 3:47 pm | #
Dearest Michelle:
You are a woman of uncommon beauty and intellect. Your writings take my breath away. I pledge to you that I will forever and always vote a straight Republican ticket. And I mean straight, no gays will ever have my chad. You have changed me and my worldview in significant and fundamental ways. I renounce liberalism and progressive thought. I am yours.
Remember that Knight Ridder is under a lot or pressure from right wing investors angry with their truth telling past.
And this is why KR will be bought out by wingnut-fucktards, vivisected by Bill Frist, then fucked like a dog by Rick Santorum.
Zappatero |
11.12.05 - 4:35 pm | #
"I'm from New York,” O’Reilly said on the radio Friday. “There are dozens of people in my neighborhood, on Long Island, who are dead because of 9/11, and you people are telling me you're not going to allow military recruiting out there. Hey, it's serious, and I think you guys need a wake-up call."
Moonbootica, Honourable Friend
None of that makes sense.
Terry C |
11.12.05 - 5:31 pm | #
Remember what I said about Hannity getting dumber and dumber:
Well, here's ANOTHER wingtard who becomes gradually stupider:
Every "leader" on the subject, including Clinton, Chirac, Bush I, Berger, etc. stated they beleived Saddam had WMD.
The fact that we found none tells me two things:
1. Bush is trustworthy enough to tell us this fact and not "plant" weapons, like Bubba no doubt would've done.
2.
TexasChiliBean
Terry C |
11.12.05 - 5:33 pm | #
Granted they were not found in large quantities, but it seems to me if you are going to call Bush a liar, you should get your facts right.
LMFAO!
Cog
Bush IS a liar, moron!
Terry C |
11.12.05 - 5:34 pm | #
Sure Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden had "ties."
If, by "ties," you mean they disliked each other intensely, and never formed anything resembling a working relationship.
Seraphiel |
11.12.05 - 5:35 pm | #
Thank you, that is all. Now you can get back to your torture humor, and calling people liars.
Cog
Another fucktard Bush supporter growing stupider by the minute.
Terry C |
11.12.05 - 5:35 pm | #
"Another fucktard Bush supporter growing stupider by the minute."
I voted against him ahole.
"cog - stop now before you make any other totally fuckwitted statements."
If by fuckwitted you mean honest and accurate, I think I will not stop. Thanks for your advice Moonbat.
"Cog = Pure hatred."
And Atrios's torture humor and Nazi Stalin comparisons are nothing but expressions of love? Riiiight.
"so what? still does not prove Iraq had anything to do with 9/11."
Nothing to do with 9/11. True. Nothing to do with Al Qaeda. False. Killed almost 100,000 more Iraqis than prewar estimates. True. The numbers of those tortured and still missing is mind boggling. Don't hold your breath for Atrios to "report" the truth on those abuses.
Bottom line is Bush f'd up removing him from power and Clinton, Annan and the UN f'd up sanctions and any political solutions.
"Another fucktard Bush supporter growing stupider by the minute."
Nice vocabulary. Anyone looking to "growing" more intelligent would not be on Atrios. This is a place to fling shit, plain and simple.
Someone thank Atrios for 2004 for me. Not because Bush won, but because he helped make the Democratic party, of which I am a member, a laughingstock. Pat yourself on the back, at least Boxer has yours.
Cog |
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11.12.05 - 6:01 pm | #
Cog lies for a living. Not a Dem, not a patriot, no truth whatsoever. Another parsing pig wingnut. "This is a place to fling shit, plain and simple." That's his only truth.
Go fling your shit at Hannity and your other johns, puke.
ronjazz |
11.12.05 - 6:27 pm | #
No cites, no facts from the cog. Pull some more shit out of your ass, fuckwit. Nothing you have stated has anything but your fevered imagination to back it up. And when are you enlisting? After you and yours have lost the war you wouldn't fight? Cowardice and ignorance, the new american right.
ronjazz |
11.12.05 - 6:30 pm | #
One thing for sure shrub's policy of Premptive Strikes has been shown to be a total failure.
Another thing for sure, too much has happened in too short of a time period for people to have forgotten what the "original" truth was.
Another thing, those pesky offices of WHIG and OSP are being exposed for what they are. One for propaganda selling the war, the other for cherry picking information, exagerating information and discarding information to make a claim for war.
Shrubs replay of pre invasion Nazi propaganda is as phony as when he first made his phony claims. The only diffrence between now and then there were alot more people alive.
pigboy |
11.12.05 - 6:54 pm | #
"No cites, no facts from the cog. Pull some more shit out of your ass, fuckwit."
Look them up for yourself. If you want me to cite publications dates and page numbers, pay me and I will do it for you. Nice vocabulary. Slightly funny after your first sentence.
"Nothing you have stated has anything but your fevered imagination to back it up."
Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, the 9-11 Commission, the Duelfer report for starters... lots of good reading. Do yourself a favor and read it instead of having Atrios copy and paste someone else's characterization of it for you.
"And when are you enlisting?"
Here is a fun game. Name that logical fallacy.
"After you and yours have lost the war you wouldn't fight? Cowardice and ignorance, the new american right."
A lot of assumptions in that entire paragraph. No cites, no facts? Pull some more shit out of your ass.
As others have noted, Knight Ridder is indeed under pressure to sell. If they get chopped up and/or bought out by some "News McNuggets" coporate robber baron, then we can forget about this kind of reporting for good.
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11.12.05 - 7:39 pm | #
This is for that cog fella:
What a sorry, sorry, unfortunate president -- caught in his lies, his half-truths, his reckless disregard ... caught with, well ... caught with time. Time has finally caught up to him. And now he doesn't have the popularity to beat back all the people trying to call him to account. He could; but now he can't. So he's caught. And his best play is to accuse his critics of rewriting history, of playing fast and loose with the truth -- a sad, pathetic man.
Chronicling the full measure of the Bush administration's mendacity with regards to the war is a difficult task -- not because of a dearth of evidence for it but because of its so many layers, all its multidimensionality. It's almost like one of those Russian egg novelties in which each layer opened reveals another layer beneath it. Hard as it may be, in the interests of getting Mr. Bush past the phases of denial and anger, let's just hit on some of the main themes.
1. Longstanding effort to convince the American people that Iraq maintained ties to al Qaida and may have played a role in 9/11. This was always just a plain old lie. (And if you want to see where the real fights with the Intelligence Community came up, it was always on the terror tie angle and much less on WMD.) The president and his chief advisors tried to leverage Americans' horror over 9/11 to gain support for attacking Iraq. Simple: lying to the public the president was sworn to protect.
2. Repeated efforts to jam purported evidence about an Iraqi nuclear weapons program (the Niger canard) into major presidential speeches despite the fact the CIA believed the claim was not credible and tried to prevent the president from doing so. What's the explanation for that? At best a reckless disregard for the truth in making the case war to the American public.
3. Consistent and longstanding effort to elide the distinction between chem-bio-weapons (which are terrible but no immediate threat to American security) and nuclear weapons (which are). For better or worse, there was a strong consensus within the foreign policy establishmnet that Iraq continued to stockpile WMDs. Nor was it an improbable assumption since Saddam had stockpiled and used such weapons before and, by 2002, had been free of on-site weapons inspections for almost four years. But what most observers meant by this was chemical and possibly biological weapons, not nuclear weapons. Big difference! The White House knew that this wasn't enough to get the country into war, so they pushed the threat of a nuclear-armed Saddam for which there was much, much less evidence.
4. The fact that the administration's push for war wasn't even about WMD in the first place. Scarcely a week goes by when I don't get an email from a reader who writes, "I always knew that Saddam didn't have WMDs. How is that you, with all your access and reporting, didn't know that too?" Good question. They were right. And I was wrong. But like many things in this rea
pigboy |
11.12.05 - 8:03 pm | #
reality-based universe of ours, this was a question subject to empirical inquiry. No one really knew what Saddam was doing between 1998 and 2002. And US intelligence made a lot of very poor assumptions based on sketchy hints and clues. But the solution, at least the first part of it, was to get inspectors in on the ground and actually find out. That is what President Bush's very credible threat of force had done by the Fall of 2002. But once there the inspectors began making pretty steady progress in showing that many of our suspicions about reconstituted WMD programs didn't bear out, the White House response was to begin trying to discredit the inspectors themselves. By early 2003, inspections had shown that there was no serious nuclear weapons effort underway -- the only sort of operation which could have represented a serious or imminent threat. From January of 2003 the administration went to work trying to insure that the war could be started before the rationale for war was entirely discredited. They wanted to create fait accomplis, facts on the ground that no subsequent information or developments could alter. The whole thing was a con. It wasn't about WMD.
Beneath these top-line points of dishonesty, there were second order ones, to be sure -- claims that the entire war would cost a mere $50 billion, insistence that the whole operation could be managed by only a fraction of the number of troops most experts believed it would take. Of course, these may be categorized as willful self-deceptions or gross irresponsibiity. And thus they are properly assigned to different sections of the Bush-Iraq Lies and Deceptions (BILD) bestiary than the cynical exploitation of lies and attempts to confuse proper.
In the president's new angle that his critics are trying to 'rewrite history', those critics might want to point out that his charge would be more timely after he stopped putting so much effort into obstructing any independent inquiry that could allow an accurate first draft of the history to be written. In any case, he must sense now that he's blowing into a fierce wind. The judgement of history hangs over this guy like a sharp, heavy knife. His desperation betrays him. He knows it too.
My parents always said I was only good for two things as far as they were concerned: pestering them and anilingus.
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11.13.05 - 12:22 am | #
"My parents always said I was only good for two things as far as they were concerned: pestering them and anilingus.: - Fake Cog
Thanks for the support Fake Cog. Just curious, were you one of the fake Cogs from last week, one of the 2 that f'd up trying to use my name to post, or were you the lone fake Cog supporter?
Cog |
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