I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

Yeeehaw


Gravatarsecond?


Gravatarholy cats, second? no way!


GravatarAhhhhhhhhhhhh. Snifff.


GravatarAre you ready for some... raking?


GravatarBokachoda GOP!


GravatarI guess someone should tell the folks downstairs. We've shaken the trolls so far this afternoon, right?


GravatarTenth?


GravatarAnybody else listening to the discussion of "The Kite Runner" on CSPAN 2?


GravatarFuck Cog

Oh, and Fuck Bush too. With a rusty chainsaw. Sideways.

Worst. Boypresident. Ever.


Gravatar I guess someone should tell the folks downstairs. We've shaken the trolls so far this afternoon, right?

Shaking is a bad idea - you don't want troll puke all over the walls, believe me.


GravatarSomethingnth!


Gravatarcatalexis, we managed to beat Toby to his knees late last night. He just disappeared. 'Twas fun.


GravatarSo I've been thinking lately....perhaps the Bush administration hasn't really been doing as good a job at running the country as it can.

Gonna hafta think on this one some more, it's a little troubling.


GravatarDoesn't work anymore?


Gravatar catalexis, we managed to beat Toby to his knees late last night. He just disappeared. 'Twas fun.

Oh man, I missed it!


Gravatarhttp://www.lewrockwell.com/orig3...- socialism.html

can bush survive w/out big business ??

can big business survive w/out government ??


GravatarDid anyone else notice? Cheney forgot to wear his ski parka to yesterday's memorial services.


GravatarMy need for Freedom Toast has been sated!
.


GravatarNim - you might be right.


GravatarOh Cooooooooggy! We're up here!


GravatarI guess not, I see Cog, or as some would suggest Mangalagagulag, is back.


GravatarSo I've been thinking lately....perhaps the Bush administration hasn't really been doing as good a job at running the country as it can.

Oh, I think it has. The keyword being "can."


GravatarDearest Michelle:

You are a woman of uncommon beauty and intellect. Your writings take my breath away. I pledge to you that I will forever and always vote a straight Republican ticket. And I mean straight, no gays will ever have my chad. You have changed me and my worldview in significant and fundamental ways. I renounce liberalism and progressive thought. I am yours.

always,

WalterNeff

I am SO in her next book

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GravatarOutcry over diplomatic memoirs

Ambassadors told secrecy is vital


The head of the diplomatic corps has ordered ambassadors and senior officials to keep their silence after leaving office, warning that tell-all books such as the one published this week by the former ambassador to Washington, Sir Christopher Meyer, will damage British foreign policy.

Sir Michael Jay's private memo was issued to all British ambassadors, high commissioners and consul generals around the world after extracts of Sir Christopher's book, DC Confidential, were serialised in the Guardian.


GravatarToby's just not the same without that gravatar of the hairy anus shitting out a face.

I guess its just an association thing.


GravatarSo... what fresh hell awaits us tomorrow morning?
.


GravatarOh man, I missed it!
NTodd, Homoe Bitch | Email | Homepage | 11.12.05 - 3:47 pm | #

It wasn't too hard, just start telling him that his arguments are solopcist and
then mention Kenneth Burke...didn't hear much from him after that.


GravatarToby Putzolds clear rascism upsets me quite a bit.

i have never met such a arsehole but jeez he is full of shit, a cowardly tosser.


GravatarBtw, anyone jonesing for cat video can go watch Curly, trying to get the arm of the chair to play with him...
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GravatarI pledge to you that I will forever and always vote a straight Republican ticket. And I mean straight, no gays will ever have my chad.

Well, I guess that means you can NEVER, EVER live in Tucson, the 8th congressional district.

(R)-Jim Kolbe was outed years ago, he's in the house of reps.


GravatarI've got cats at my blog...

(and a weird picture of dubya that looks like it's been photoshopped. real thing , I swear).


GravatarIt wasn't too hard, just start telling him that his arguments are solopcist and
then mention Kenneth Burke...didn't hear much from him after that.


Oh, that doesn't sound as much fun as calling him a frogfucking donkey's ass.


GravatarI am SO in her next book

whore!


GravatarI miss the Cheeto in Toby's Beard gravatar.


GravatarOh, that doesn't sound as much fun as calling him a frogfucking donkey's ass.
NTodd, Homoe Bitch


FUn, schmun. As long as it works.


GravatarI know NTodd, As much fun as it is to kick the shit out of him sometimes...it was late, I was tired and you were nowhere to be found.


GravatarMichele wants to set up an internment camp/sex farm for Walter Neff and the other handsomest men in thwe world.


Gravatar" I Thought This Was a Cartoon"

Damn, that is a fruity looking guy.


GravatarI'm also a fan of the openly mocking "King of the Trolls" approach.


GravatarI am SO in her next book

Man, if my lightsabre gag doesn't make it in there, I'm going to become mightily unhinged.


GravatarYou scared it off with Kenneth Burke? Did it grasp the implication that the manipulation of language angle isn't working as well as it once did?


GravatarChyron antics from Bill O'Reilly's secret admirer at Faux Noose?

I report, you deride.
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GravatarMay the Almighty Lord destroy the sodomites of Tucson with his heavenly thunder, then send the bill to Pat Robertson.

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Gravatari have never met such a arsehole but jeez he is full of shit, a cowardly tosser.

Love the sound of that - "cowardly tosser." I had to look up "tosser." Wordreference.com gives the following definitions:

(1) someone who throws lightly (as with the palm upward); (2) tosser, jerk-off, wanker (terms of abuse for a masturbator)


Gravatar May the Almighty Lord destroy the sodomites of Tucson with his heavenly thunder, then send the bill to Pat Robertson.

Or vice versa.


GravatarMichele wants to set up an internment camp/sex farm for Walter Neff and the other handsomest men in thwe world.
NYMary, Hetero Puke


My luck, I'll get the Lyndie England role.


Gravatar(1) someone who throws lightly (as with the palm upward); (2) tosser, jerk-off, wanker (terms of abuse for a masturbator)

Wait... Their definition of "tosser" is... "tosser"?


Gravatardoes Michelle Malkin have a prision guard uniform hung up in her cupboard?


GravatarMy luck, I'll get the Lyndie England role.

This is why I don't smoke.


GravatarI also don't fuck sadistic prison-guard MPs.



At least, not yet.


GravatarWell, it's not my district, and I don't think I qualify as a sodomite, but I am in Tucson for the time being and this whole smiting thing has a history of being shall we say inexact.


Gravatartosser [tóssər] (plural tossers)
n
an offensive term for a person, especially a man, regarded as unintelligent or contemptible (slang)


[Mid-20th century. From toss off .]
Microsoft® Encarta® Premium Suite 2003. © 1993-2002 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.


GravatarWait... Their definition of "tosser" is... "tosser"?

It threw me, too.


Gravatar does Michelle Malkin have a prision guard uniform hung up in her cupboard?

Nope, SS.

Look ma, I'm in a book!


GravatarWhat is w wearing? Bicycle pants. Man he looks horrid. Look at his gut. Don't tell he works out all the time. That's the kind of gut you get when you're a quart a day man. I bet he has to sleep off his morning drunk when they tell us he is exercising. He also looks horribly hungover.


GravatarEli: This is why I don't smoke.

Yeah, but you drink Dr. Pepper.
.


GravatarThanks, moonbootica.


GravatarWhich is better? Cheney's heart vs. Busted toilet.


GravatarYeah, but you drink Dr. Pepper.

Yes, which is perfectly fine, and not to be confused with that Dr Raper stuff they serve at the Abu Ghraib PX.


GravatarWait... Their definition of "tosser" is... "tosser"?

It threw me, too.


Tossed me for a loop.


GravatarYou scared it off with Kenneth Burke? Did it grasp the implication that the manipulation of language angle isn't working as well as it once did?
catalexis | Email | Homepage | 11.12.05 - 3:56 pm | #

not in the least.


GravatarWhat is w wearing? Bicycle pants. Man he looks horrid.

ql, are you referring to the Newsweek photo? He's got some sort of muscular dystropgy action going with one of his legs.


GravatarIt threw me, too.

Tossed me for a loop.


It just didn't seem very hurlpful.


GravatarHey Nim ~

How goes it?

Had a bit of a hangover today. Nice to see you, though.

Thanks for so graciously putting up with the video of my daughter...


GravatarTossed me for a loop.

I thought it was a little underhanded.


GravatarNYMaary - Did you get a package. It should have arrived yesterday, but since yesterday was a holiday, I figured it would arrive today.


GravatarI just made a bulk purchase of Michelle's book. I intend to set up a girl scout cookie stand outside my local Safeway and give them away free to the liberal wackos - they will be easy to recognize: anyone who buys French wine, French bread, or French's mustard.

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Gravataromg ql, Bush needs to be arrested for crimes aganist fashion.

he looks very flabby..


GravatarI just shot this off my front porch.

http://static.flickr.com/32/ 6254...54293a2ea_b.jpg


Gravatar I intend to set up a girl scout cookie stand outside my local Safeway and give them away free to the liberal wackos - they will be easy to recognize: anyone who buys French wine, French bread, or French's mustard.

I bought green beans and called them "haricots verts." You'll never take me alive!


Gravatardarn it i'm drinking Chilean wine

guess i am not part of the liberal wacko crowd!


GravatarI thought it was a little underhanded.

Hey, now wank just a minute!


GravatarPlus the related Newsweek poll has Dems over 'Thugs 80-16. Of course, those numbers will cause the DLC to shift further right.


GravatarNTodd, was it you who wanted pecans this fall? the crop is in...I can get them in the shell or cracked. Wanna trade for some syrup?


GravatarFrench's mustard.

I prefer Grey Poupon.

I just shot this off my front porch.

In the context of 'tossing', I think I won't check it out...


Gravatar I just shot this off my front porch.

Well, crap. I can't compete with that.

I, uh, just shot this in my room...


GravatarNim, are you the Nim that called in to Ed Schultz's show this week?


GravatarNTodd, was it you who wanted pecans this fall? the crop is in...I can get them in the shell or cracked. Wanna trade for some syrup?

I'm totally there!


GravatarTena,

You may not have made it into nutcase's book, but those comments you made about the cunt will forever be scorched into my mind. They were full on righteous and hilarious.

Heh. I used the word "cunt." I don't ever use that word.


Gravatargot totally bummed out, went to wine store, just as I pulled out of the driveway, I spotted the neighborhood bobcat crossing the road. When I got back I heard two gun shots in the direction the bobcat went. It's deer season, so I've been hearing shots for a week. Hope the 'cat's safe.


GravatarI'm totally there!
NTodd, Homoe Bitch | Email | Homepage | 11.12.05 - 4:08 pm | #

how much do you want, and shall we make it an even swap?


GravatarSorry, I was referring to pix over Jeffraham's blog.


GravatarSomeone in the Left Blogosphere loves me. I suspect a blogroll or a plug in a very big place has been given to me because ever since I made my last blog entry, my hit count has skyrocketed. Any ideas? I usually don't get this kind of a response just by posting a few captioned pictures and spreading a few comments.


GravatarWhen I got back I heard two gun shots in the direction the bobcat went.

ugggh, drunken hunters, I won't be able to go to many of my favorite places till after deer season.


GravatarAfternoon, Batties.

What did I miss while I was away from the screen?


Gravatar"The neighborhood bobcat"?


GravatarThers has all the names of all the Atriots in Malkin's book.

Here.


GravatarWhen the liberal hoodlums spirit me away during a hemp rally at which I am protesting, I will not bend to their attempts at mind control. They can put me naked at the top of a progressive prisoner pyramid and I will fear not - after all, I once understudied for The Flying Wallendas.

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GravatarOh, and ql, it arrived just about an hour ago. Lovely!


GravatarPlus the related Newsweek poll has Dems over 'Thugs 80-16. Of course, those numbers will cause the DLC to shift further right.

Yes,

Now is the time to stand behind the president in a time when he is struggling to gain the trust of the American people. If America does not trust the prez, then Al Qaida wins.

Joe Lieberman


GravatarNYMary, Since when did you become a "Hetero Puke"?


GravatarWalter Neff,
One just doesn't see Flying Wallenda jokes very often. Kudos to you.

(I was obsessed with them when I was about 8. Just after my Hudson Brothers phase, as I recall.)


GravatarUS wants to deploy spy planes in Kyrgyzstan

ALMA-ATA, Nov. 11 (Xinhuanet) -- Former Kyrgyz Foreign Minister Askar Aytmatov said Friday that the United States and NATO had previously required to deploy AWACS surveillance spy planes in Kyrgyzstan, which was rejected by the Kyrgyz government.

The Kyrgyz Foreign Ministry still keeps the note submitted by the US embassy as well as a letter from NATO to the Kyrgyz government, asking to deploy the spy planes, Aytmatov told a press conference in Bishkek, capital of Kyrgyzstan.

It was misunderstandable that a former US ambassador to Kyrgyzstan had fully denied having made such a requirement, he noted.

Washington and NATO had twice asked -- between February and April this year -- to deploy AWACS surveillance spy planes in Kyrgyzstan, but all the requests were rejected by the Kyrgyz government, the Kyrgyz media reported.


GravatarI am enjoying my new life as Malkin's Manbitch. My new favorite song is "Red Rubber Ball."

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GravatarMy new favorite song is "Red Rubber Ball."

Now you're talking in cyrkles.


GravatarLos Malvinos son Argentinos


Gravatarhow much do you want, and shall we make it an even swap?

Good question. E-mail and we can chat offline?


Gravatar NYMary, Since when did you become a "Hetero Puke"?
Vicki


I thought NTodd the Homoe Bitch meeded some company. Though I guess it should really be "Hetereoe Puke," but that looked like entirely too many E's.


GravatarNow there's something you don't see every day, Chauncey.
How's that Edgar?
A flu-ing squirrel!
Oh, I don't know, Edgar...


Gravatar I am enjoying my new life as Malkin's Manbitch. My new favorite song is "Red Rubber Ball."

Do you have one taped in your mouth?


Gravatarciao for now moonbats gonna drink some more wine and watch a DVD

keep beating the right up!


GravatarAthenae should be "Hetereoe Puke."

All those vowels.

/Holden Caulfield


GravatarMy new favorite song is "Red Rubber Ball."

Wait'll you hear "Turn Down Day"...

Cyrkle rules!


GravatarWhy's everyone so pukey?


Gravatar"Hey Nim ~

How goes it?

Had a bit of a hangover today. Nice to see you, though.

Thanks for so graciously putting up with the video of my daughter...
Vicki | Email | Homepage | 11.12.05 - 4:03 pm | #
"

Had a hangover of my own, surprise surprise ^_^ Feeling fine now though, making tonight's plans...

No need to thank for me seeing the video, it was fun. Your daughter is tres talented.


GravatarIt will surprise no one to hear that I am objectively pro-Cyrkle.


GravatarLet the Christmas shopping begin!


GravatarFelt heartened this morning after seeing this: Asterisks Dot White House's Iraq Argument

"President Bush and his national security adviser have answered critics of the Iraq war in recent days with a two-pronged argument: that Congress saw the same intelligence the administration did before the war, and that independent commissions have determined that the administration did not misrepresent the intelligence.

Neither assertion is wholly accurate.

The administration's overarching point is true: Intelligence agencies overwhelmingly believed that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, and very few members of Congress from either party were skeptical about this belief before the war began in 2003. Indeed, top lawmakers in both parties were emphatic and certain in their public statements.

But Bush and his aides had access to much more voluminous intelligence information than did lawmakers, who were dependent on the administration to provide the material. And the commissions cited by officials, though concluding that the administration did not pressure intelligence analysts to change their conclusions, were not authorized to determine whether the administration exaggerated or distorted those conclusions."

The byline: Dana Milbank and Walter Pincus.

huh.


Gravatar It will surprise no one to hear that I am objectively pro-Cyrkle.

Where do you stand on the Sunrays?

Be careful...!


GravatarI saw The Flying Wallendas in 1959 when I was five. I think Lynndie England's grandparents were there.

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GravatarWhat's Lieberman's problem? Seriously. Is it that he's a Zionist? (oy, that's going to get me in trouble...) I just can't quite figure out why he truly stays over in the Republican Club all the time now. It's weird.

I wish we could ditch him, but I don't think there's any way to do that.


GravatarLet the Christmas shopping begin! - dave™
What? No Fritzmas buttons?


GravatarGood question. E-mail and we can chat offline?
NTodd, Homoe Bitch | Email | Homepage | 11.12.05 - 4:14 pm | #

will do


Gravatar"Fuck Haloscan with hot death" sorta goes without saying. Sometimes, though, we just like the sound of it...


GravatarWhere do you stand on the Sunrays?

Be careful...!


I don't know them well, though I have a somewhat ingrained resistance to beach music generally.


GravatarI wish we could ditch him, but I don't think there's any way to do that.

I suggest the same strategy I advocate for getting rid of Republicans: Tie Bushie around his ankle like an anchor. I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that CT is not what you'd call pro-Bush.


Gravatar It will surprise no one to hear that I am objectively pro-Cyrkle.

I'm objectively pro-Urkel.


Gravatar(of course, the Democratics might have to actually *support* a primary challenger, which I don't see happening because Schumer is a weenie)


GravatarI'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that CT is not what you'd call pro-Bush.

He's at 32% according to SurveyUSA.


GravatarI'm thinking a nap is in order. Any snugglers in the hizzy?
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GravatarI don't know them well, though I have a somewhat ingrained resistance to beach music generally.

What about Dick Dale? When you pare away the surfin'-and-cars Jan-and-Dean crap, the Angry Guitar stuff like Misrlou is just awesome.


GravatarWEli,
What would Schumer have to do with the CT primary?


Gravatar"The neighborhood bobcat"?
Eli

yea, there's five houses along about a mile of road.


GravatarWhat? No Fitzmas buttons?

Too trendy... we're all about the classics!


GravatarI'm thinking a nap is in order. Any snugglers in the hizzy?
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Jeffraham Prestonian


Sorry, man -- I just got up from my own nap.

Thank for the offer... I guess?


GravatarIt's a turn down day, and I dig it.


GravatarWho the hell is WEli?

Preview, Mary, preview.


GravatarHe's at 32% according to SurveyUSA.

Exactly. Send up a primary challenger armed with *every* key vote where Joe stood with the president on some terrible and now-discredited policy, as well as overall percentages on when he voted with the Republicans, and any quotes they can dig up where Lieberman praises Dubya's resolve, character, or all-around bloodthirstiness.


GravatarI actually like some Beach Boys and even some Jan and Dean. But the genre never spoke to me enough to really explore it in detail.


GravatarToo trendy... we're all about the classics! - dave™
I'll just have to go with the Bush Lies!


GravatarI don't know them well, though I have a somewhat ingrained resistance to beach music generally.

Well, after Brian and the band threw his abusive ass off their gravy train, Murry Wilson attempted to show the world that he was the "brains" behind the Beach Boys' success by taking over the Sunrays. They had one hit - "I Live for the Sun" - and faded into obscurity.

Sorta like Murry...


GravatarWhat would Schumer have to do with the CT primary?

He's head of the DSCC, ain't he?


GravatarI'm thinking a nap is in order. Any snugglers in the hizzy?
.
Jeffraham Prestonian
yep, you want the 85 lb. lab or 55 lb. poodle?


GravatarWhat would Schumer have to do with the CT primary?

Schumer is the chair of the Senate campaign committee, whatever it's called, and he calls the shots on who is and is not The Anointed Democratic Candidate in the Senate races. He's spurned Penacchio in PA and Hackett in OH in favor of more conventional (and less confrontational) candidates.

I don't have a problem with not backing Penacchio or Hackett, but actively trying to push them aside is not cool. Let them duke it out in the primaries, then back the winner to the hilt.


Gravatar Who the hell is WEli?

The Eli who lives in Cleveland?


Gravatar Who the hell is WEli?

The Eli who lives in Cleveland?


I figured it was either a radio station or some kind of new wi-fi standard.


GravatarI am making a list of ways to show my love to Michelle. I have already filled 27 spiral-bound notebooks with tiny, tiny handwriting and no punctuation. I have included hundreds of ink drawings of Michelle and me in love - they are very beautiful, particularly the one's that show us making babies. Our babies will be so special and they will be so angelic that I plan to send them all to Heaven early soon after they are born. Michelle and I will live forever in my little house in the country, though I'm not yet sure which country that will be. One thing is for sure, that country will be in America where people are free to make everyone believe in the baby Jesus or else.

Now I'm going to go outside and gaze at the heavenly light of God's blazing sun.

Has anyone seen my mittens?

.


GravatarI hope whoever writes the formal indictment of Chicken Caesar has enough of a sense of irony to use several phrases from CC's speach yesterday when framing the charges.


GravatarI'll just have to go with the Bush Lies!

It's a tradition... the public's come to expect it!


GravatarWho the hell is WEli?

Google says it's Southern Connecticut's #1 News Station.


GravatarOh, I guess he is. (Schumer, I mean, not the newly christened WEli.)

Thers has promised me a new laptop, so we're off pricing. Woo-hoo!


Gravatar"OnAir now -- The Sean Hannity Show!"


GravatarThers has promised me a new laptop, so we're off pricing. Woo-hoo!

Think about a Mac!


Gravatar(of course, the Democratics might have to actually *support* a primary challenger, which I don't see happening because Schumer is a weenie)
Eli


Which side of this you think Dr Dean would be on, and could he have a little...talk...with Schumer?


GravatarHas anyone seen my mittens?

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WalterNeff, Malkin's Manbitch | Email | Homepage | 11.12.05 - 4:28 pm | #

Walter, will those babies have tails?


GravatarWho the hell is WEli?

Google says it's Southern Connecticut's #1 News Station.


Woohoo!!!

Attention, Southern Connecticut! I have a news flash for you:

LIEBERMAN SUCKS!!!!


GravatarOperation Falafel is underway!


GravatarWalterNeff,
What is going on with you? Is related to the abuse of post-operative drugs or an insufficiency of drugs to abuse?


GravatarWhat's Lieberman's problem? Seriously. Is it that he's a Zionist? (oy, that's going to get me in trouble...) I just can't quite figure out why he truly stays over in the Republican Club all the time now. It's weird.

I am going to throw out a theory here. Lieberman is a repub mole who, while generally votes with the dems, votes with repubs when key issues come up. Remember how when Gore wanted to fight the election, he sabaotoged him by saying we should count the oversees ballots of people who voted after the election, and how Gore should stop contesting the election and let Bush win in the mood of national unity. People like Lieberman vote with dems, when they are clearly either going to win or lose the vote. But when it is close, Lieberman will always vote with the repubs.


GravatarEli - Oh I think Lieberman can be beaten in an election. When I said "ditch him" I meant, I wish the Democratic party could throw him out. And I don't think that's possible. The voters will have to do it - as you said.


GravatarThink about a Mac!

Prepare for the sticker shock...


GravatarWhich side of this you think Dr Dean would be on, and could he have a little...talk...with Schumer?

I would be pretty surprised if Dean was a Joementum fan - not just because of his DLC politics (Dean's politics are a bit... odd), but because he's an arch-pussy.

Unfortunately, PA and OH give me the impression that Dean is giving Shrummer, er, Schumer pretty much a free hand to mastermind senate races as he sees fit.


GravatarThink about a Mac!
Marwood | Email | Homepage | 11.12.05 - 4:30 pm | #

I have been wanting a powerbook for a looong time. Saving my shekels and hoping they come down in price. I am currently trapped in pcland and hoping for a way out.


GravatarOT, but tomorrow on TCM 11:30 am PST: "The Incredible Shrinking Man."

One of the true greats...


GravatarOT, but tomorrow on TCM 11:30 am PST: "The Incredible Shrinking Man."

"I was in the pool! I was in the pool!"


Gravatarguess that Jayhawk win last wk was a fluke. TX 28 KU 0


GravatarLieberman is Zell Miller on quaaludes.


GravatarLive Free or Die...

My husband has long proposed just that theory. He believes that the Democrats have a number of moles who are there to do what you are suggesting.


GravatarThe end of a love affair?

Santorum blames media, White House for war's unpopularity

http://story.europesun.com/p.x/c...f615140c663f6c/

By KATHY MATHESON
The Associated Press
PHILADELPHIA - Sen. Rick Santorum took a rare swing Friday at President Bush, saying the war in Iraq has been less than optimal and that some blame for that lies with the White House.

Santorum, a conservative Republican and usually a strong Bush ally, said the unpopularity of the war should be shared between the White House and the media.

"Certainly, mistakes were made," Santorum said of the war's conduct. "But that's a criticism you can make of every conflict."

The comments, made after a Veterans Day speech at the Union League in Philadelphia, came at the same time the Pennsylvania senator stressed he wasn't trying to distance himself from the president, who spoke moments earlier about 80 miles away at the Tobyhanna Army Depot.

Bush's poll numbers are the lowest of any time during his presidency, in part due to the climbing death toll in Iraq.

He is also blamed by some for the loss of the Virginia governor's race, in which he appeared with Republican candidate Jerry Kilgore the day before the election. Kilgore lost.

Santorum, facing an uphill re-election fight next year, said missing the president's appearance was nothing more than a scheduling conflict; he had already committed to the Philadelphia event when the president made plans to speak at Tobyhanna at the same time.


"the war in Iraq has been less than optimal"--understatement of the week?


GravatarSquirrelucopia!

now I'm just waiting for a few choice specimens to attack the pumpkins I put out back..


GravatarWhen I said "ditch him" I meant, I wish the Democratic party could throw him out.

I can't think of any examples of someone actually being expelled from a party. But he could be effectively kicked out by backing his opponent.

But given that it's almost 2006 (I think filing deadlines are approaching soon?) and I haven't heard any buzz about a primary opponent, I don't think it's gonna happen. And I have no idea why. In what sense is Lieberman an asset? Even if he lost a primary, and that Dem then lost the general election, wouldn't we just end up with (another) moderate Republican in his spot?

The only purpose that Lieberman serves is to inflate the number of Dems in the senate, so they have one less new seat to win to attain a majority. He is a Republican in every other way imaginable, and I wonder if the Republicans are actively courting him to switch sides (maybe right after he gets re-elected?).


GravatarOddly enough, it is in the near environs of Alma-Ata where the first rose is said to have grown, also (and not coincidentally since they're all rose progeny) the first apples, pears etc.


GravatarI am in the iron grip of cockeyed optimism over President Bush's godly plans for our great nation as relayed to me through Michelle's holy writings.

Also, I had 17 snickerdoodles today and I forgot to wash them down with liebfraumilch; so, there's that.

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GravatarSHG

I've had a G4 17in 1.5 gig for a year now. The thing is a workhorse.

It gets constant use and never gets turned off. No worries.

LOVE IT.

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GravatarIt's worth noting that the headlines about Bush's speech say, "Bush Attacks Critics..." rather than "Bush Defends Iraq War Decision". The Freudian projection of his accusations of "rewriting history" is patently obvious.


GravatarMy husband has long proposed just that theory. He believes that the Democrats have a number of moles who are there to do what you are suggesting.

Biden.
Shrum.
Brazile.

To name a few that I'm absolutely certain of. I have suspicions about a bunch of others.


GravatarLive Free or Die...

My husband has long proposed just that theory. He believes that the Democrats have a number of moles who are there to do what you are suggesting.


Biden also. When the dems are putting on the full court pressure against Alito last Sunday, what does Biden do? He says that dems will not filibuster. Repubs even if they disagree with the leadership dont go on the Sunday talkshows to diss the republican leaders liek some dems do their own.


GravatarIt's worth noting that the headlines about Bush's speech say, "Bush Attacks Critics..." rather than "Bush Defends Iraq War Decision". The Freudian projection of his accusations of "rewriting history" is patently obvious.

Bush doesn't *have* a defense. That's why he has to attack. It's not even a conscious choice - he really has no other option. Not that he wouldn't choose attack anyway, of course.


GravatarSquirrelucopia!

That little guy seems to have a broken or dislocated digit on his left front paw.

Or, he was flipping you off.

Squirrels are funny that way.


GravatarI urge a Mac, too. My love writings at iwillhaveyoumichelleordie.com and here at the devil's playground have been carefully composed on a 17" Powerbook. So, not only does Michelle love me completely, totally, and fully - mine is bigger than yours. Neener.

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GravatarI can't think of any examples of someone actually being expelled from a party. But he could be effectively kicked out by backing his opponent.

Dems are too much wussies to do something like that. When Zell Miller was trashing the dems at the repubs convention, the dems stood there like little woosies and said that Zell should not be critisized. Even Carville did not critisize him.


GravatarDems are too much wussies to do something like that. When Zell Miller was trashing the dems at the repubs convention, the dems stood there like little woosies and said that Zell should not be critisized. Even Carville did not critisize him.

That's a big part of the problem. Dems are just so grateful to have *anyone* nominally on their side, that they never seem to threaten anyone who sides with the enemy. The Republicans, on the other hand, have no compunction about funding primary challenges or threatening loss of chairmanships (i.e., Specter).


GravatarHere in New England I've a getting first (I saw one) and second hand (a good friend in Conn.) sightings of Gray Wolves in Western MA and Conn. Wildlife managers deny there are any wolves in this area and say we've seen dogs or coyotes. But I have seen lots of coyotes and I worked for a vet for 5 years and damn well know a dog from a wolf. The one I saw was near the Quabbin Reservoir. This was an absolutely spectacular wolf who was standing in the middle of a dirt road ahead of me as I rounded a curve in a car (with my family). I stopped and we stared at each othr until he loped (and that is the correct term for it's gait) off. I thought I was looking at my old Cub Scout handbook. My friend has a farm west of Hartford and has seen (a) wolves twice in the past year. Each time he spoke to the town's game control office and got a curt cutoff that there are no wolves in Conn.


GravatarPrepare for the sticker shock...
dave™


Sometimes you get what you pay for. I'll never go back to a PC.


Gravatarguess that Jayhawk win last wk was a fluke. TX 28 KU 0

Nah, Texas is just about 50,000 times better than Nebraska


GravatarRepubs even if they disagree with the leadership dont go on the Sunday talkshows to diss the republican leaders liek some dems do their own.
Live Free or Die | 11.12.05 - 4:42 pm | #


that's because they know they will be committing seppuku on Monday if they do.


GravatarThe squirrels in my neighborhood have become quite spoiled. No birdseed or corn for them, once they discovered gardens. This summer they dined on strawberries, tomatoes and now the mushrooms growing in the yard.

Little furry bastards.


Gravatardieselcreek, how heavy is that thing?
I was thinking that the 15" might be better for me.


GravatarSquirrelucopia!

Straight to the desktop! Now, to see how the cats respond. If at all...


GravatarEach time he spoke to the town's game control office and got a curt cutoff that there are no wolves in Conn.

Hey, if there are moose in New Zealand, anything's possible.


GravatarOur bird feeder is like the Star Wars cantina: you get your finches, your bluejays, your crows, and squirrels. And every now and then a Hawk will come in and spoil the party.


GravatarHey! Right after Zell pulled all that shit, Jimmy Carter wrote him an open letter. I used to have it bookmarked, but it's gone now. Carter quietly took Zell apart for appearing at the Repug convention.

Y'all should get your facts together when you go Democrat bashing.


GravatarI take it the moose were escorted, originally? I mean, they didn't buy their own tickets and emigrate?


GravatarMoose are pretty good swimmers, but that sounds like a brilliant college fraternity prank.


GravatarRepubs even if they disagree with the leadership dont go on the Sunday talkshows to diss the republican leaders liek some dems do their own.
Live Free or Die | 11.12.05 - 4:42 pm | #


that's because they know they will be committing seppuku on Monday if they do.


Dems have to learn how to spew talking points or say nothing. But his shit about Dems stopping thier own momentup has got to stop. Let me put it this way: If the repubs had us in the same situation that the dems have the repubs in now, every repub would be on the same page and they would literally cruise to victory next year. They would not have the Biden's out there fucking things up, and other dems voting with repubs to give them ANY victories. All the repubs would be voting down a liberal Alito. But dems cant close the deal and drive the steak in


GravatarThe squirrels in my neighborhood have become quite spoiled.

The squirrels in my neighborhood occasionally fall from the trees. I never remember that happening as a kid.

Several times I've been in the house and I hear a big splat on the deck. I go out and find a knocked out squirrel, who wakes up after a few seconds and woozily climbs back up a tree. Fortunately I've got there all but once before the dogs.


Gravatar The Republicans, on the other hand, have no compunction about funding primary challenges or threatening loss of chairmanships (i.e., Specter).
Eli


One of the more important differences between an organized political party and...the Democrats. *sigh*


GravatarJust about 7 lbs.

Ya need a decent sized briefcase or backpack to fit this monster. It's really skinny though...

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GravatarSometimes you get what you pay for.

Sometimes you make do with what you can afford.


GravatarY'all should get your facts together when you go Democrat bashing.

Do they ever fund primary challengers against the disloyal? Do they threaten their committee memberships or chairmanships?


GravatarHey! Right after Zell pulled all that shit, Jimmy Carter wrote him an open letter. I used to have it bookmarked, but it's gone now. Carter quietly took Zell apart for appearing at the Repug convention.

Y'all should get your facts together when you go Democrat bashing.


Tina,
Carter is not elected. He is not relevant as far as the media goes. Gary Hart does the same thing, but if Daschle or Gephardt, or DNC Chair said something that would be more newsworthy.


GravatarI take it the moose were escorted, originally? I mean, they didn't buy their own tickets and emigrate?

There was an attempt to introduce them in 1910. Ten moose released into Fjordland, which (it was thought) was unsuccessful.

But maybe not?


GravatarGary Hart does the same thing, but if Daschle or Gephardt, or DNC Chair said something that would be more newsworthy.

Don't you mean Reid or Pelosi?


Gravatarand now the mushrooms growing in the yard.
TheOtherWA | Email | 11.12.05 - 4:49 pm | #

the only wild mushrooms in our yard are those where we remember seeing the deer taking a piss. So in essence the squirrels are eating pisshrooms.
But in our yard they tend to go after the woodpecker bars we have set up hanging from the trees and below our upstairs deck. They also like to go through our storm gutters which is great because they usually end up pulling a lot of the leaves out to get at the seeds and other stuff that gets stuck in there. It makes my life so much better because I honestly do think their contributing at least 80% of the storm gutter cleaning on my home.

MYOB'
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Gravatar"We do not torture", is a lie that ought to get Bush impeached.


GravatarFor how long has Fux news being sticking a registered trademark symbol over their "fair and balanced" on-screen bar?


Gravatar For how long has Fux news being sticking a registered trademark symbol over their "fair and balanced" on-screen bar?

I'm betting there's a rough correlation with Franken's book of a... similar name.


Gravatarlink to Carter's letter.


Gravatar"Hey! Right after Zell pulled all that shit, Jimmy Carter wrote him an open letter. I used to have it bookmarked, but it's gone now. Carter quietly took Zell apart for appearing at the Repug convention."

I'd like to see someone get a hold of Zell and see just how he feals knowing he supported a lying sack of shit? I'd also like to know how he feals knowing that this is exactly how democrats were portraying him years ago of which he felt so dedicated in protecting at the rethug convention.
What Zell needs is to talk a walk in the wrong all-black neighborhood cause a name like 'Zell' just smacks of 'Klan'. You don't get anymore southern than that. When was the last time you heard of someone in Boston, NYC, or LA being named 'Zell'?

MYOB'
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GravatarGary Hart does the same thing, but if Daschle or Gephardt, or DNC Chair said something that would be more newsworthy.

Don't you mean Reid or Pelosi?


No back when Zell did his crap, Daschle was leader. Reid is generally doing a good job, but other dems need to get with the program. Biden always creates negative headlines for dems. First with Bashing Dean, and then saying Alito wont be filibustered.


GravatarThe squirrels in my neighborhood occasionally fall from the trees. I never remember that happening as a kid.

They musta been watching Rocky & Bullwinkle through the window, and thought they'd try it out. Squirrels are NTFB. Well, all but Rocky...


GravatarSO is that a Burt Rattan look-alike on the history channel?

And if so, where do you find a Burt Rattan look-alike?


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Gravatar41 to 0 TX


GravatarThe mid 30s don't seem to be providing a very solid floor for W's numbers.

Wonder if we'll have to worry about stepping in new pony pucks next week.


GravatarBack in the Seventies, my uncle swore that he'd seen wolves on his property in the mountains near Logan, UT many times. He kept quiet about it saying that it would cause problems if the public knew about it.

I always took that to mean that he was worried that they'd be harmed, that is until just a few months ago when I realized that my uncle, the sheep rancher, was probably shooting them.


GravatarThey also like to go through our storm gutters which is great because they usually end up pulling a lot of the leaves out to get at the seeds and other stuff that gets stuck in there.

So how'd you train them? I wonder if they're doing that with my gutters too. They're always running on the roof to get from one tree to the other. Probably should check the gutters soon.


GravatarLForD - Whatever.

I say Carter is a more than relevant figure and was the perfect one at the time to make the statement. Otherwise, it would have just been standard campaign backbiting from the Democrats. This way, a Democratic statesmen with lots of goodwill with people let everyone know that Miller had betrayed the people who had gotten him where he was.

It wouldn't have mattered to you in the least if every Democrat had stood up and yelled. You would have found something to bitch about.


GravatarFrank Rich is supposed to have a killer column tomorrow morning (something about W's 33% honesty rating). Free links, as always, will be greatly appreciated!


GravatarHey Rocky--

Watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat!


GravatarNo back when Zell did his crap, Daschle was leader. Reid is generally doing a good job, but...

And didn't I read that it was Daschle that came up with the "rule 21" gambit?


Gravatarstatesman. I had more fucking trouble typing that damn word and still made a mistake.


GravatarIf Michelle and our heavensent baby ever get stuck boarding a subway I will lift the train onto my mighty shoulders and save them. I will sell a tape (Betamax - I'm an early adopter) of the incident to CNN for five million dollars so that our child can attend Oral Roberts University for half price. When our child is elected President of the USA I will pass out sugarless cigars (as I am health conscious).

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GravatarI want some of what Walter is smoking...maybe.


GravatarI say Carter is a more than relevant figure and was the perfect one at the time to make the statement. Otherwise, it would have just been standard campaign backbiting from the Democrats. This way, a Democratic statesmen with lots of goodwill with people let everyone know that Miller had betrayed the people who had gotten him where he was.

What bothers me is that there are simply no tangible consequences for disloyalty in the Democratic party, none. A well-written letter is still just... a well-written letter. It doesn't carry any clout, it doesn't threaten their senatorial standing or clout in any way. Losers like the Joes simply have no incentive to help their party.


GravatarOoooooooooooral...

Ooooooooooooooooooooooooral...


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Gravatar"Projects like Carnivore and TIA are going ahead in the private sector whether we like it or not. In fact, I am part of that effort."

Paul Deignan

http://tinyurl.com/c8aj8


GravatarAnother relevant point of Carter taking Zell to the wood shed is that they are both from Georgia (right?).


GravatarI love it! "Man-Dog" Santorum is turning on Bush in order to get a boost in his election race! The rats are now fleeing the sinking ship...


GravatarMYOB - as far as I'm concerned, nothing is too bad for Zell. The only saving grace is that Zell Miller is batshit crazy and just about everyone knows it. Doesn't really make the Repugs look that good, ya know? This batshit crazy old racist jumping over to their side is more than a bit of a joke.


Gravatarsugarless cigars



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GravatarIn the upcoming national championship game between USC and UT, I would like or you guys to consider rooting for UT. I realize the tendency would be to root for the team from the blue state team over the team from the red state, but UT is far more liberal than USC. USC is a Republican stronghold, while UT is hated by the right-wingers here in Texas (who prefer A&M).


GravatarI hereby challenge Joe Bieden to a fight.


GravatarAnd Zell Miller and Joe Liebernman too.


GravatarFrankly, the Repugs are welcome to Zell, and I think he did us a favor.

I think your big jumping up and down over it, LForD, is much ado about nothing.


GravatarLeonard Pitts nails it:

... In the name of fighting terror, we have terrorized, and in the name of defending our values, we have betrayed them. We have imprisoned Muslims in America and refused to say if we had them, why we had them, or even to provide them attorneys. We have passed laws making it easier for government to snoop into what you read, who you talk to, where you go. We have equated dissent with lack of patriotism, disagreement with treason. And we have tortured.

Yes, Bush says we don't do that kind of thing but, to paraphrase Groucho Marx, who you going to believe, him or your lying eyes?

We ignore our lying eyes, I think, because we are afraid, because we saw what happened Sept. 11 and we never want to see it again. I'd never suggest we ought not fear terrorism. But we should also fear the nation we are becoming in response. We should fear the fact that we have abrogated moral authority, retreated from moral high ground, become like those we once chastised.

"We do not torture," says the president. I can remember when that went without saying.


GravatarWalterNeff, Malkin's Manbitch | Email | Homepage | 11.12.05 - 5:04 pm | #
I'll have what he's having.


GravatarI'll kick all of their asses.


Gravatar"Projects like Carnivore and TIA are going ahead in the private sector whether we like it or not. In fact, I am part of that effort."

Paul Deignan


He's certainly a big enough scumbag that I can see him being only too happy to participate, but I wonder if maybe he's just saying that to sound more important than he really is. The only post of his I read was the one where he talked about how much he loves paying lawyers to rip people's shit, and I got kind of a Jon Lovitz Pathological Liar vibe off him.


GravatarUSC is a Republican stronghold, while UT is hated by the right-wingers here in Texas (who prefer A&M).
squid696 | Email | Homepage | 11.12.05 - 5:06 pm | #


dead on Squid. Where are you in TX?


GravatarHi, all. I'm back.

Didja miss me?



The Republicans, on the other hand, have no compunction about funding primary challenges or threatening loss of chairmanships (i.e., Specter).
Eli

One of the more important differences between an organized political party and...the Democrats. *sigh*
Doozer (truncated)


That may just change with Harry - when he's majority leader. We'll have to wait and see.


GravatarWe have denied habeus corpus to an American citizen. Why isn't that as important as a missing whitye woman?


GravatarI'll kick all of their asses.
patriotboy | Email | Homepage | 11.12.05 - 5:08 pm | #

We know that but do they?


GravatarThat may just change with Harry - when he's majority leader. We'll have to wait and see.

I hope so. I'm satisfied that Reid and Dean are nobody's patsies, but I'm not yet sure how much clout they wield in their own party.


Gravatar Les Documents du Niger

Well, well folks it seems the interest in this paper trail is picking up amongst the Establishment types! You bet 43 is feeling the heat. It may not be safe!

Left Coaster posts based on Italian reporting that Rocco had some help within SISMI in getting his hands on forged documents to peddle. Named is Antonio Nucera, a SISMI deputy chief in charge of the section that handles counterproliferation in the Middle East. Apparently he put Rocco, who was short on cash, in touch with the SISMI contract agent known as La Signora . She and Rocco recruited Niger embassy first counselor Zakaria Maiga. Some stationary and rubber stamps went missing after a possibly staged burglery at Niger's Rome embassy on New Year's Eve 2001. Rocco sold the documents first to the French for whom he was a paid source. Knowing their former colony, French intelligence trashed the forgeries. The enterpising Rocco also sold them to the British, and even attempted to sell them to the CIA in Rome in the fall of 2001 His offer was rejected by the Rome station chief.

There are denials all round. General Pollari denies that Italian intelligence was involved in creating the documents, but its now clear that SISMI reports to the CIA were based on the contents of the forged documents . In a wierd synergy the SISMI reports gave the documents more credibility than they would have had otherwise. In turn the forgeries gave the neocons the amunition they needed to instigate their war plans.

Its clear that the forged documents existed contemporaneously with the three SISMI reports between October 2001 and March 2002. The documents contain outdated intelligence from the 1980s allegedly obtained from SISMI's archives. Who actually put the dossier together is a question still not answered, but the INC cannot be eliminated nor for that matter domestic "ratfuckers".


GravatarI realize the tendency would be to root for the team from the blue state team over the team from the red state

If people actually do that, it's pretty fucking stupid IMO.

Leave politics out of sports. The reason to root against a team is when they have a bunch of arrogant assholes on the team, like the old OK teams under Switzer. Or teams that showboat.


GravatarI realize the tendency would be to root for the team from the blue state team over the team from the red state

If people actually do that, it's pretty fucking stupid IMO.

Leave politics out of sports. The reason to root against a team is when they have a bunch of arrogant assholes on the team, like the old OK teams under Switzer. Or teams that showboat.


GravatarThe state gov. says that mountain lions have been extinct around here since the 30's. I remember camping on granddad's place in the late 50's, had a half collie half st. bernard I had to tie to a tree trying to get him to stay overnite with me. He always broke the twine and went home. In the mornings I would go down to the pond to catch a fish for breakfast and find cat tracks bigger than my hand.


GravatarTheOtherWA
I wish we could train them. We have as many as 7 or more squirrels in our yard at any one time for several months of the year going through the bird feeders and eating the woodpecker bars. It really doesn't hurt too much because they only go through the sunflower seeds and end up tossing the other seeds in the feeder mix on the ground, spreading them out for the other birds to get at.
But in regards to the storm gutters we have two acorn trees right next to our home. One on each side of the house. These are the sides they go to the most digging for nuts. Because there are no trees close to the other sides the gutters are usually clear but those sides where the nuts are have the most leaves which in turn get pulled out by the squirrles digging for the acorns. What's also nice is the fact they will continue to forage for nuts and such well into December when the trees are just dumping the last of their leaves and acorns.

MYOB'
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Gravatarhi flory, how ya doing?


GravatarLeonard Pitts nails it:

"...him or your lyin' eyes?"...
Nice one. Now let's see that in the Big Three op-ed pages. Three-out-of-four; fuck the WSJ...


GravatarI realize the tendency would be to root for the team from the blue state team over the team from the red state...

Everyone hates University of Spoiled Children.

And, BTW, they may be located in a blue state, but that campus is red Red RED!


GravatarSo is Cog Michelle Malkin? There was rumblings of that here last night.

She was on C-Span complaining about this blog. Possibly a regular. Probably a lurker?

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GravatarThe reason to root against a team is when they have a bunch of arrogant assholes on the team, like the old OK teams under Switzer. Or teams that showboat.
chris/tx


Ohio State under Woody Hayes?

Indiana under Bobby Knight?


GravatarPaul Deignan's father is a prominent bankruptcy attorney as I recall. Guess that gave Paul the impetus to begin his ridiculous vendetta.

Message to Paul's Dad:

Run away! Run away!


GravatarLeonard Pitts is just some leftist hack


GravatarShe was on C-Span complaining about this blog.

ROFL!!!
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Gravatarre: backyard critters. We have two raccoons who come up on our deck every night to clean up the catfood. They are named Stanley and SOL. Stanley usually gets to the food first and since she's the mom she usually gets her way. It is interesting to observe them up close since they have gotten used to us I can call Stanley up to the deck. Our cats don't seem to mind them in the least and tend to leave them enough food to get by.


GravatarSo is Cog Michelle Malkin? There was rumblings of that here last night.

She was on C-Span complaining about this blog. Possibly a regular. Probably a lurker?

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dieselcreek


Gee, you would think the Rabid Pekingese would have more things to say than the usual crap Cog posts here.


GravatarEli - Well, what can I say? I think party membership is voluntary - you decide what you want to be, and you say you are and that's that.

I'm reasonably sure, that if Zell ever tried to run again as a Democrat, he would be shunned by the party - no help, etc. I hope anyway. Other than that, I don't see what can be done. It's not like a private club you can expel someone from. And we aren't fascists, so we don't demand everyone be alike. In the big picture, I don't think Zell has hurt us. Lieberman has - but if he won't cooperate, I don't know what can be done. Reid or Dean could talk to Lieberman til they were blue in the face. Lieberman still gets to do what he wants. He obviously doesn't care what the party thinks. So what do you do?


Gravatarso what's the current trend in conversation? so far i'm getting wishy washy dems, mooses, and mushroom eating squirrels. bullwinkle?


GravatarReid is generally doing a good job, but other dems need to get with the program. Biden always creates negative headlines for dems. First with Bashing Dean, and then saying Alito wont be filibustered.
Live Free or Die


The problem with the Bidens, Millers and Liebermans of the world is that they don't think they need the party. They think the party needs them -- to give it gravitas and "moderate" street cred.

And in an off year, as the minority party, the party really doesn't have any leverage over them. Reid can't withold chairmanships and the DINO's all have pretty good sized campaign chests. So they can pretty much do and say whatever they want without fear of reprisal.

Until Harry is Majority Leader, that is. Then their little DINO chickens may just come home to roost.

We'll see.


GravatarGee, you would think the Rabid Pekingese would have more things to say than the usual crap Cog posts here. Terry C

Ah, are you sure about that?
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GravatarLeonard Pitts is just some leftist hack
Fred Eper



Awwwwww!

And what does he write to offend you?

That he thinks Bush is asshole?

How is the truth offensive?


GravatarBoris!

Time to kill Moose and Squirrel.


Gravatar squid696

Good lord, are we now choosing which football teams to cheer on based on how the state voted?


GravatarGee, you would think the Rabid Pekingese would have more things to say than the usual crap Cog posts here. Terry C

Ah, are you sure about that?
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Dartanyon


Well, if Cog is MaglaGaglaDingDong, how come she doesn't demand that we all be interned?


Gravatar Leonard Pitts is just some leftist hack

Fred Eper is just some goatfucking rightwing nutjob.


GravatarWhat bothers me is that there are simply no tangible consequences for disloyalty in the Democratic party, none. A well-written letter is still just... a well-written letter. It doesn't carry any clout, it doesn't threaten their senatorial standing or clout in any way. Losers like the Joes simply have no incentive to help their party.

Exactly. When Biden was trashing Dean, what was going through his mind? That he was helping the party? Likewise, when Biden said that dems would not filibuster Alito, why was he speaking for the party? Didnt he know that he alon, would b making it harder for dems to filibuster?


GravatarI am smoking Gruntie's Latvian Sugarless Cigars, I like the leathery taste and they keep my teeth sparkling white, though the tongue cancer stings a bit. Gruntie's supports local faith-based charities, and 87% of all proceeds go to administrative costs - we are more than pleased to help Mr. Bush's administration in any way we can.

So, when you are looking for a sugarless cigar, look no further than Gruntie's. Well, certainly no further than Latvia.

Gruntie's, for that great taste and tongue cancer.

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GravatarFred Eper is just some goatfucking rightwing nutjob.
NTodd, Homoe Bitch | Email | Homepage | 11.12.05 - 5:19 pm | #

and he sucks coyote dicks


GravatarShe was on C-Span complaining about this blog.

ROFL!!!
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Dartanyon


But I thought we were so unimportant and irrelevant.

The trolls keep telling us that we are.


GravatarReid or Dean could talk to Lieberman til they were blue in the face. Lieberman still gets to do what he wants. He obviously doesn't care what the party thinks. So what do you do?

Again, you can't expel them from the party. But you can make it clear that if they don't behave, you'll throw the full weight of the Democratic party behind their primary challenger the next time they're up for re-election (I seriously doubt that El Medico Dean would have any problem backing them up on that). And if they're on any committees, or if they're in line to chair any committes if the Dems get control back, then they can say buh-bye to those as well.

I would also say that DINOs from blue states (cough cough Joementum cough) deserve a *much* shorter leash than DINOs from red states, because they can't use the excuse that they need to pander to their electorate. Also, the threat of backing a liberal primary challenger would be kind of laughable.


GravatarOhio State under Woody Hayes?

Indiana under Bobby Knight?


While I did not like either of those coaches, I at times liked both of there teams.

I root for teams based on the players, and how they handle themselves on and off the field. I try to keep coaches/owners and other stuff out of it. Players don't have any control over that stuff.


Gravatarand he sucks coyote dicks

Well, everybody needs a hobby!


GravatarChris Cillizza, idiot
The way I read this, 1) Dean's fund raising is 30% better than the Dems did in the last cylce, 2) Rapeublican fund raising has remained the same.


GravatarSHG have stickhorse will travel,
I live in Houston, but attended UT and lived in Auston for about 10 years.


GravatarI'm reasonably sure, that if Zell ever tried to run again as a Democrat, he would be shunned by the party - no help, etc. I hope anyway. Other than that, I don't see what can be done.

They could hve said that Zell was batshit crazy. This would have been confirmed when he challenged Tweety to a duel. They did not have to stand back and take it. They could have said something-anything!


GravatarThus far I've spent the day making Thanksgiving gravy ahead to freeze ( a little labor intensive and far more time consuming than you could manage on the day itself) and two pumpkin pies that are cheesecakes at heart. Don't know what got into me, but it's been fun.


GravatarMake that 40%.


GravatarAnother relevant point of Carter taking Zell to the wood shed is that they are both from Georgia (right?).
chris/tx


Right. Especially for the Georgian voters. Be nice if CT and GA could throw out their fake Dems and put in a couple real ones next time around. It's pretty much up to them, in the end.


GravatarAlso, if you're sending out spam claiming to be the "National Sereal Survey", then "I Like Cherrio's" in your subject line does not exactly enhance your credibility.

Just sayin'.


GravatarSHG:
I just got back from the gym -- I'm feeling very virtuous.

How's by you?


Gravatarcatalexis, we managed to beat Toby to his knees late last night. He just disappeared. 'Twas fun.




I'm glad to have missed that loser completely last night


Gravatarsquid696 | Email | Homepage | 11.12.05 - 5:22 pm | #

Ever been to Wimberley?


GravatarNever forget that 4 yrs after 9/11 this was cuckoo bananas level of readiness for a domestic disaster http://tinyurl.com/ab3wy and he is responsible
he stayed on vacation golfed played guitar blamed OBL and the dems

my friends call me karl


GravatarAcorns. That explains it, MYOB. I have no acorn trees. Damn, I'll just have the clean the gutters myself.


GravatarTerry C,

Are 'Cog' and 'Incog' the same poster?
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Gravatarbut the INC cannot be eliminated nor for that matter domestic "ratfuckers".
US PERSON

wow, niger docs. the zaharwi letter, not to mention the TANG docs. i can't remeber how the moose would have said it but "Rocky, sumth'n is stink'n in denmark"

no tinfoil required...


GravatarI would also say that DINOs from blue states (cough cough Joementum cough) deserve a *much* shorter leash than DINOs from red states, because they can't use the excuse that they need to pander to their electorate. Also, the threat of backing a liberal primary challenger would be kind of laughable.

Exactly. REid is from a red state. Why is he showing more balls than Lieberman. His so-called moderation is getting him 0 point in that blue state that he is in. Lieberman is on a committee. Strip that shit from him. Biden is on the foreign relations committee.-strip that shit from him, and make it known that you will make his life hell when he runs for prez. That is what Frist/Delay did.


Gravatardave - I love Leonard Pitts. The Dallas Morning News used to run his column regularly. They've cut back on the number they run. I miss him.


GravatarI am so tired of all this dem bashing. Yes it would be nice if the party was more coherent, but I'm not sure I want to belong to a party marches in lockstep with its leaders.


GravatarI am so tired of all this dem bashing. Yes it would be nice if the party was more coherent, but I'm not sure I want to belong to a party marches in lockstep with its leaders.


Gravatar Also, the threat of backing a liberal primary challenger would be kind of laughable.
Eli


'specially for ol' Zell baby.
But, then again, they did elect Jimmeh...


GravatarAre 'Cog' and 'Incog' the same poster?

oh no, incog. can be a pain, but he's pretty cool. not the same can be said about that odious asshole, Cog.


Gravatarflory,

I slept late, paid bills, and now am pursuing my favorite hobby...being here.

Fortunately, football, nascar and cowboy novels keep el esposo occupied until cocktail hour. I do have to leave soon to make leek & tater soup I had heard rumors that he was going to shell some pecans for a pie, but that hasn't happened yet.


GravatarToby Putzold's clear rascism upsets me quite a bit.

i have never met such a arsehole but jeez he is full of shit, a cowardly tosser.
Moonbootica, Honourable Friend


He doesn't much like women either.


GravatarWell, if Cog is MaglaGaglaDingDong, how come she doesn't demand that we all be interned?
Terry C


Malabangabanga's fixation in interning liberals, progressives and her legions of critics reminds me of that other radical, rightwing nut, William Buckley, who said back at the beginning of the AIDS epidemic that everyone with HIV should be tatooed, a la, Hitler tatooing the Jews.

She's a very troubled and tiresome wingnut.
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GravatarYes it would be nice if the party was more coherent, but I'm not sure I want to belong to a party marches in lockstep with its leaders.

I hear you, and I admit I have some qualms about it as well, but I just don't think we can afford to tolerate Dems who march in lockstep with the other party's leaders.


GravatarEli - You're right about what can be done - threaten to run a challenger.

Maybe they hope Lieberman can pull in more conservative voters.

I do not know. Lieberman makes me crazy.


GravatarLeonard Pitts Is so damn reasonable, and writes so well that I love when our paper runs his stuff, which isn't often enough.


GravatarDems are too much wussies to do something like that. ...

That's a big part of the problem. Dems are just so grateful to have *anyone* nominally on their side...


Comparing the Dems and Reps can get to sound a bit like George Carlin comparing football and baseball...


GravatarAre 'Cog' and 'Incog' the same poster?

No. Cog is a fucking doofus. Incog is just an angry queer.


GravatarHe doesn't much like women either.
Terry C


Translation: Women scare the piss outta him....


GravatarIn a secret memo to all vice-presidential aides today, it was noted that a concern for Dick Cheney's health is high. In the last day, after reviewing the declining numbers for both President Bush and himself, the Vice President has become apoplectic. Those in the know indicate he has become enraged frequently with a foul odor emanating from his shorts. At one point the EMT's were called in when the vice president was heard to shout NO, NO NO! and then turned blue. The EMT's argued for precious minutes, attempting to prevent further damage to Cheney's brain, asking him to stop holding his breath and turning blue. They had to fool him by saying the war was the fault of the democrats and liberals. Cheney responded That's Right!, then realized his error and began holding his breath again. More on this as the situation develops.


GravatarLieberman makes me crazy.

Me too. He's narcolepsy on a stick.


GravatarSpeaking of Italy and the CIA-

ROME (AP) - Italian prosecutors have requested the extradition of 22 purported CIA operatives in the alleged kidnapping of an Egyptian cleric in 2003, prosecutors said Friday.

The request was sent to Italy's Justice Ministry in Rome, which will decide whether to pass it on to the United States.


Guardian

This ain't going away. (Apologies if this was brought up earlier, I haven't been online much today.)


GravatarI do have to leave soon to make leek & tater soup

I think that's my second favorite soup -- right after New England clam chowder


GravatarIt isn't easy to get rid of Lieberman or Biden because they hold elected offices, but the party should dump Shrum and Brazile. Shrum has got to be the worst campaign manager ever, and Brazile is just plain dumb.


Gravatar
Fred Eper is just some goatfucking rightwing nutjob.


GoatSUCKER.


Gravatarshit. and my bitch didn't give me nothin'!


GravatarMaybe they hope Lieberman can pull in more conservative voters.

I would have thought that his 2004 presidential campaign would have put any ideas of his crossover appeal to rest...


GravatarI just don't think we can afford to tolerate Dems who march in lockstep with the other party's leaders.

Being a non-Dem, I have to go with Eli (aka WEli). There's marching in lockstep, and then there's, you know, being able to rely on somebody when your party's principles and future is at stake. Fuck Lieberman.


GravatarShe's a very troubled and tiresome wingnut.

Which gives her a very bright future with Faux and Regnery.


GravatarNo. Cog is a fucking doofus. Incog is just an angry queer.
NTodd, Homoe Bitch


Ah yes, the 'O[O' poster is Incog who is always advising me that everyone here is a raving, raging homophobe.
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Gravatarafternoon, battsies. i'm having a "difficult" moment with my roomies, so i'm hiding here in my room with the computer.

are there any mental health experts here today? i could use some advice.


Gravatarplantsman - how can you make turkey gravy without any turkey juices from the pan?


GravatarYeah, the right has managed to cultivate a brand of celebrity all their own.

By sheer audacity the wingers get the attention that fills their bank accounts.

Hard to imagine even being able to stand yourself after using ignorance and human- reptilian brain response to become rich.

As has been said before, it's easy to be a Republican. Just give into desire and selfishness. Being a Dem, on the other hand, is a pain in the ass! Always worrying about someone and looking to find compromise.

...I'm really going nowhere with this, just a thought.


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GravatarSHG have stickhorse will travel,
I have been through there, but I don't think I have ever spent any time there. Is that where the Blue Hole is? I have been there.


Gravatar Incog is just an angry queer

Methinks Incog may have a touch of manic-depression. Or at least a damn good act of a manic-depressive.


GravatarI do have to leave soon to make leek & tater soup

I think that's my second favorite soup -- right after New England clam chowder
flory


Mmmm, potato soup...


GravatarAh yes, the 'O[O' poster is Incog who is always advising me that everyone here is a raving, raging homophobe.

The same. And he also accuses you of being the house fag. Now, fetch me some soup!


Gravatarare there any mental health experts here today? i could use some advice.

Mental health? I'm for it.


Within limits.


GravatarLieberman makes me crazy.

Lieberman is the kosher Zell Miller.
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GravatarMaybe they hope Lieberman can pull in more conservative voters.

This is clearly what Lieberman thinks, which is why he's convinced the party needs him more than he needs it.

I think a couple primary challengers, well funded by the grassroots, may be just the wakeup call the DINO's need.

And Harry letting them know he'll be reviewing public commentary when deciding on committee chairmanships after he's majority leader next year.


GravatarThe same. And he also accuses you of being the house fag. Now, fetch me some soup!

Hey, *is* there a gay equivalent to "Uncle Tom"?


GravatarAcorns. That explains it, MYOB. I have no acorn trees. Damn, I'll just have the clean the gutters myself.
TheOtherWA
want some hickory trees? all of my white oaks are safely on the back 2/3's of the place. I can't even use my back deck now, went out early the morning to watch the ground squirrels and birds, just as I opened the door and stepped out, I twisted my ankle on a hickory nut and was hit on the head with another.


GravatarOtherWA, I saw that in the Express News this morning and thought, "oh boy the next round has been fired".

This is going to be fun to watch.

52 to 0 almost at the half.


Gravatarare there any mental health experts here today?

To the best of my knowledge, this joint is overrun by sykiatrists.


GravatarMethinks Incog may have a touch of manic-depression. Or at least a damn good act of a manic-depressive.

You just don't understand what he's been through, stank-assed hetero!


GravatarLieberman is the kosher Zell Miller.

No, no no. He's not nearly as passionate and fiery in his defense of the Republican party.


GravatarHey, *is* there a gay equivalent to "Uncle Tom"?

Ken Mehlman?


GravatarThe same. And he also accuses you of being the house fag. Now, fetch me some soup!

Tomato Bisque or Minestrone?
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GravatarHe doesn't much like women either.
Terry C

Translation: Women scare the piss outta him....
flory |


I'm wondering if the TexasChiliBean troll is Tobes under another name.

He's as dumb as Toby.


GravatarNo, no no. He's not nearly as passionate and fiery in his defense of the Republican party.
Eli


It might be mildly entertaining to watch Old mild Joe get worked up enough about anything to burst a vein in his temple.


GravatarMaglagulag update:

Page 118-9 of her POS book features comments from here. On page 119... I think it's Tena's comment. And then?

King Leopold.

Oh yes.

The formatting is shot -- Regnery has shitty proofreaders, obviously -- but King Leopold (not attributed, natch) is indeed there.

God loves Atrios.

I couldn't grab a phonecam pic -- B&N don't like the practice, for obvious reasons -- but it's there in black and white.


GravatarSo is Cog Michelle Malkin? There was rumblings of that here last night.

She was on C-Span complaining about this blog. Possibly a regular. Probably a lurker?


Well, we're all pretty much nuts here, so we'll at least know what you're talking about, even if we can't fix it...


GravatarTomato Bisque or Minestrone?

Oh...[waves hand airily]...surprise me.


GravatarESPNews anchor just called a South Carolina D-lineman "buxom". Oh dear.


Gravatar"To the best of my knowledge, this joint is overrun by sykiatrists.
SteveNS"

you're projecting again...


Gravatar Think about a Mac!

Prepare for the sticker shock...
dave™ | Email | Homepage | 11.12.05 - 4:33 pm | #


ok i'm sure this has been covered, but macs aren't prohibatively expensive.

look here


GravatarHey, *is* there a gay equivalent to "Uncle Tom"?

Ken Mehlman?
SteveNS


Log Cabinet Repugs.


GravatarHey, *is* there a gay equivalent to "Uncle Tom"?

I call them 'Aunty Toms.'

But I'm the house fag and can get away with it.

Hahahahahahaha!
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GravatarAnd the copyright page?

"©2005 Michelle Maglalang"

Quite.


Gravatarare there any mental health experts here today?

To the best of my knowledge, this joint is overrun by sykiatrists.
SteveNS


Mental health, however, is conspicuously absent.


GravatarOoops....Log CABIN


GravatarIt might be mildly entertaining to watch Old mild Joe get worked up enough about anything to burst a vein in his temple.

I think Scanning him would be the only way to make that happen.


GravatarThe formatting is shot -- Regnery has shitty proofreaders, obviously

Check the kerning.


GravatarMetal health experts say stay away from lead; zinc is a great substitute for the weight conscious and goes great with Tasmanian bumblebee soup.

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GravatarHey, *is* there a gay equivalent to "Uncle Tom"?
Log Cabin Repugs?


Gravatarplantsman - how can you make turkey gravy without any turkey juices from the pan?

You can't. If you're real lucky this close to the holiday, a decent store will have some turkey wings.
My recipe starts by roasting four for 75 min at 400-
Plenty of pan juices and browned crispies result and are incorporated into the gravy. I'm totally sold on this recipe.


GravatarIs that where the Blue Hole is? I have been there.
squid696 | Email | Homepage | 11.12.05 - 5:34 pm | #

yep, it just became a city park. I live not too far from Jacob's Well.


GravatarHey, can I be the house hetero puke? Are there any perks?



I can't make soup.


GravatarTomato Bisque or Minestrone?

Oh...[waves hand airily]...surprise me.
NTodd, Homoe Bitch


I'm having my own creation -- it's a sort of beef and broccoli soup.


GravatarI'm wondering if the TexasChiliBean troll is Tobes under another name.

He's as dumb as Toby.
Terry C


Possible. But let's face it -- there's no lack of dumb on the wingnut side of the aisle.


Gravatar"ESPNews anchor just called a South Carolina D-lineman "buxom". Oh dear"

But the guy really does have big tits.


GravatarWait a minute -

You're serious?

The Rabid Pekingese is bitching about people here on Eschaton in her shitty book.

The one NO one is going to buy/read?


Gravatarzinc. Is there anything it can't do?

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Gravatar"plantsman - how can you make turkey gravy without any turkey juices from the pan?"

water, flour, some turkey bullion and liquid smoke...


GravatarMental health, however, is conspicuously absent.


Speak for yourself, sis.


I am eminently sane, in spite of appearances.


GravatarJ. Edgar Hoover was an 'Aunty Tom.'

Jeff Gannon is an 'Aunty Tom.'

Drudge too.
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GravatarBoris!

Time to kill Moose and Squirrel.
Natasha


thankyou. just what i was trying to recall. i'm sure it has political connotation that even now i'm unaware of. but as a kid that phrase both frightened the hell of me and made me laugh out loud.


GravatarI think it's Tena's comment. And then?

King Leopold.


Tena's famous!!!

And the King Leopold shit is just too fucking funny for words.


GravatarBut the guy really does have big tits.

If I'm that anchor, I'm looking into Witness Protection *right now*.


GravatarPossible. But let's face it -- there's no lack of dumb on the wingnut side of the aisle.


Nope. It's someone else. The voice is different.


Though equally retarded.


GravatarHey, *is* there a gay equivalent to "Uncle Tom"?

Wax fruit?


GravatarI'm having my own creation -- it's a sort of beef and broccoli soup.

Oooh, oooh! House Fag! Fetch me some of Marcia's soup. AND STOP SUCKING MY COCK! Geesh, how many times do I need to tell you that...


GravatarBut the guy really does have big tits.
mike in pr


Enh.

Fake.


GravatarMaybe they hope Lieberman can pull in more conservative voters.

This is clearly what Lieberman thinks, which is why he's convinced the party needs him more than he needs it.

I think a couple primary challengers, well funded by the grassroots, may be just the wakeup call the DINO's need.

And Harry letting them know he'll be reviewing public commentary when deciding on committee chairmanships after he's majority leader next year.


One of my main problems with Joementum, was he was out in front critisizing the ethics of Clinton for getting a BJ. Now when there are ethics charges about repubs for something that is actually serious, where is he. He is silent. So he goes out of his way to critize a Dem prez, but is silent on Delay, Fist, Bush, Rove ,Cheney?


Gravatar zinc. Is there anything it can't do?

Zinc! Come back zinc!


Gravatardamn you stevens for beating me to it! /shakes fist/

are we talking about incog? 'cause there's a woman in my current housing situation that's reminding me a lot of him just now.

seriously, mental instability is no joke. it sucks, to have it and to have to put up with it. i sincerely wish we had a real mental health initiative in this country and could fucking talk about it, openly and with the understanding that it's a medical problem, not a moral issue.

all i have is pity for incog. i'll never yell at him, and only gently joke with him. i know far too many queers driven to real, ugly insanity by the world around them, and the lack of support that could alleviate the pressures that cause them to crack, like he does so often.

you don't want to live his life, trust me.


GravatarSo he goes out of his way to critize a Dem prez, but is silent on Delay, Fist, Bush, Rove ,Cheney?


So true. He needs a good cockpunch.


GravatarI'm having my own creation -- it's a sort of beef and broccoli soup.

Yummy.

We're making impossibly big deli sandwiches with peppercorn roasted turkey and swiss cheese, potato salad and watching movies.
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GravatarI am eminently sane, in spite of appearances.
fourlegsgood


I am technically sane and have several court orders to prove it. You people are just speculating.



GravatarI think Scanning him would be the only way to make that happen.
Eli


If you're going to bring up Scientology stuff, I may have to leave...itchy thetans, you know...


GravatarChi-Dyke - I'm not a mental health expert, but I am mental. What's the matter?


GravatarI am eminently sane, in spite of appearances.
fourlegsgood


Methinks you doth protest too much....


GravatarPlenty of pan juices and browned crispies result and are incorporated into the gravy. I'm totally sold on this recipe.
plantsman

only use the giblets to make mine.


GravatarOne of my main problems with Joementum, was he was out in front critisizing the ethics of Clinton for getting a BJ. Now when there are ethics charges about repubs for something that is actually serious, where is he. He is silent. So he goes out of his way to critize a Dem prez, but is silent on Delay, Fist, Bush, Rove ,Cheney?

Every once in a while, I have a fleeting thought that maybe the Joes just suck up to whichever party is in power (much like the media supposedly does); and then I remember shit like this.


Gravatarall i have is pity for incog.

I had pity, still do to a certain extent, but after 2-3 years of his shit, I can't abide it any more.


Gravatar damn you stevens for beating me to it! /shakes fist/


Sorry.

I'll behave.


GravatarFetch me some of Marcia's soup.
NTodd, Homoe Bitch


I don't think you'd like it much.


GravatarO'Wanker:

"I'm from New York,” O’Reilly said on the radio Friday. “There are dozens of people in my neighborhood, on Long Island, who are dead because of 9/11, and you people are telling me you're not going to allow military recruiting out there. Hey, it's serious, and I think you guys need a wake-up call."


He has dozens of people in his neighborhood who are dead?

If anyone needs a wake-up call, he does.

He doesn't even make sense.


GravatarWe're making impossibly big deli sandwiches

Could God make a sandwich so big that he couldn't lift it?


GravatarOops - cross posted and mine looks terribly crass after reading Chicago Dyke's further comment.

Sorry.


GravatarI don't think you'd like it much.

Why? I love beef. I love broc. If you put some lovin' in it, I'm sure I'd love it!


GravatarMethinks you doth protest too much....


You're probably right.


GravatarIf you're going to bring up Scientology stuff, I may have to leave...itchy thetans, you know...

Scientology?


GravatarI love it when Atriots talk about food.

It must be a night for beef broth. We're having a stew, requested by teenage daughter with flu.


Gravataryou don't want to live his life, trust me.


Good Lord! Move to Madison. I'm hetero and feel like the minority here on the East side.

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Gravatarzinc. Is there anything it can't do?

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dieselcreek


You can't weld it for shit. Try it.


GravatarActually, I may need to correct myself.

I think the featured is Big Daddy Mars' quotation of King Leopold. The comments in this post are reprinted verbatim in the book, sans the first King Leopold one.

So Tena doesn't make it, alas. And she may have been slightly self-aware enough to cut out the most obvious Belgian colonial parody.

In fact, it looks like Maglalalaland's book is a hastily assembled set of blog posts, which in turn are copied and pasted out of context from other blogs. No shit, Sherlock, says I.


Gravatar>i>Page 118-9 of her POS book features comments from here. On page 119... I think it's Tena's comment. And then?

Tena really made Malkin's book? Hilarious!



Not gonna entice anyone here to buy the piece o' trash though.


GravatarHey, *is* there a gay equivalent to "Uncle Tom"?

Wax fruit?
catalexis


Bendadick Ah-nold?


GravatarHe has dozens of people in his neighborhood who are dead?


What an idiot.


Gravatarall i have is pity for incog.



He can go from lucid to insane in minutes, can't he?


GravatarEvery once in a while, I have a fleeting thought that maybe the Joes just suck up to whichever party is in power (much like the media supposedly does); and then I remember shit like this.

Where is Holy JOe. The one who critisizes Clinton. He stands silent and kisses Bush. If Joe was a quaterback on a football team, nobody woudl block for him.


GravatarCould God make a sandwich so big that he couldn't lift it?

Pfah. The real question is -- would he put mayo or mustard on it?


GravatarBut I'm the house fag and can get away with it.

Hahahahahahaha!
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Dartanyon |


ahem. sez who? i want to see you Queer Credentials. how much did your last pair of shoes cost? how many nights this week have you gone out dancing? when was your last 3-way? what french dish do you make best?

and where's my mimosa? seriously, i need one.


GravatarWhy? I love beef. I love broc. If you put some lovin' in it, I'm sure I'd love it!
NTodd, Homoe Bitch


It's pretend beef. But it is spicy. And the lovin' is on the side.


GravatarIt's too hot here to make soup.


GravatarHahahahahahaha!
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Dartanyon


I work with a Log Cabin repuke. As much as possible I ignore him.


GravatarSomething I have had a big hankering for lately is a damn fine Margarita, but triple sec and Cointreau aren't things I keep around. Anybody got a vote on a good mix?


GravatarI'm wondering if the TexasChiliBean troll is Tobes under another name.

He's as dumb as Toby.
Terry C

Challenge him to defend George W. Bush, after more than fifty years of Republican scare propaganda about the yellow menace of the "Red Chinese" selling the Chinese Communists America's future at interest so he could finance his tax givaways and graft for the richest of the richest.

If he doesn't answer it's quite possible that he's Toby.


GravatarHe has dozens of people in his neighborhood who are dead?




Does he think that putting recruiting shit in San Francisco is going to bring back the people in his neighborhood?


GravatarPfah. The real question is -- would he put mayo or mustard on it?


jalapeno mustard.


Gravatar"ESPNews anchor just called a South Carolina D-lineman "buxom". Oh dear"

When one player was kicking another players ass over and over in a game, they use to say,"so-n-so is having his way with him!"

Always made me snicker, because I remember when I would go pick up a girl in HS, the mother would occasionally tell there daughter, "don't you let that boy have his way with you".


Gravatar"ESPNews anchor just called a South Carolina D-lineman "buxom". Oh dear"

When one player was kicking another players ass over and over in a game, they use to say,"so-n-so is having his way with him!"

Always made me snicker, because I remember when I would go pick up a girl in HS, the mother would occasionally tell there daughter, "don't you let that boy have his way with you".


GravatarA good mix?


'Kine bud and chocolate.


GravatarScientology?
Eli


It called me a naughty nellie. Which actually doesn't freak me out as much as you may think it would.


Gravataryou don't want to live his life, trust me.
chicago dyke


No, I wouldn't. And I do have sympathy for him and I never argue with him -- I just ignore him when he goes off.

And I agree 100% with your comments on the shamefull dearth of mental health care in this country. And moreso the shamefull lack of understanding of what mental illness is.

But I can see where some people here get tired of being the targets of his rants when this is probably the single biggest concentration of friends and supporters he's ever had.


GravatarPfah. The real question is -- would he put mayo or mustard on it?

Depends. If it's roast beef, mustard is the Prime Condiment, but mayo (or Miracle Whip, sorry NYMary) is not Satanic. Turkey must have mayo/MC. Ham must have mustard.

It's all in Leviticus.


GravatarWhere is Holy JOe. The one who critisizes Clinton. He stands silent and kisses Bush.

Ah, but Bush is a Godly Man, and I guess that's all that matters.

Fundies is fundies, I guess.


GravatarFor some reason I think texas chili bean is a woman.


GravatarPlease excuse the extreme vulgarity of these excerpts, but they demonstrate a point about unhinged liberal hatred that I will continue to expose:

My God. She doesn't get it, does she.

Poor deranged thing. I hope they're not too harsh with her at the loony bin when she finally loses it completely.


GravatarHe can go from lucid to insane in minutes, can't he?

It normally takes minutes plus a six-pack, alas.


GravatarIt called me a naughty nellie. Which actually doesn't freak me out as much as you may think it would.

Try copying and pasting the link, Nellie.


Gravatarjalapeno mustard.
fourlegsgood


And it was good.


GravatarTena really made Malkin's book? Hilarious!



Not gonna entice anyone here to buy the piece o' trash though.
pie


I was hoping to get a signed copy online(wingnuts like to do that) write "I am truly an offensive asshole" above her name and post it on ebay, but then I often forget my medication.


GravatarFor some reason I think texas chili bean is a woman.

Manhands, no doubt.


GravatarI hate ring tones on cell phones.


GravatarI work with a Log Cabin repuke. As much as possible I ignore him.

Much like his own party.


Gravatarzinc. Is there anything it can't do?

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dieselcreek

read something a while back. Using a solar furnace & a small amt. of coal, zinc was used to produce pure hydrogen.


GravatarMaglalalaland's book is a hastily assembled set of blog posts, which in turn are copied and pasted out of context from other blogs. No shit, Sherlock, says I.
pseudonymous in nc


She really has her little panties in a twist, doesn't she?


GravatarOne of my main problems with Joementum, was he was out in front critisizing the ethics of Clinton for getting a BJ. Now when there are ethics charges about repubs for something that is actually serious, where is he. He is silent.

Which is what tells you he's a Republican at heart, but doesn't want to leave CT for Redder climes. For these people, it really is the sex-and-gender, not the lies.


GravatarManhands, no doubt.


The tone reminds me of a couple of winger women I know.


GravatarI hate ring tones on cell phones.


RIng tone commercials are even worse.

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GravatarBush is a Godly Man, and I guess that's all that matters.

You misspelled "Girly".


Gravatartena- no worries, not everyone is a simpering bleeding heart like me.

one of my roomies is...stressed. her answer is to throw things and shout at the walls and cry. she needs medication. that's clear. but she won't take any, won't go see a mental health professional, and won't admit she has a problem. she's smart enough, and mean enough, that i'm afraid at times to cross her. i need this housing gig, and i can't upset her too much or i'm in a world of hurt. so i'm in a bind.

i tried to offer an ear. i tried to say, "i want to listen, and to help you." she told me to fuck off. she's one of those asexual professionals with no real life outside her job, and i think that's the main source of her problems, but she also has issues (haha like me) with her mother. her mother called this afternoon. the result: broken dishes.

so i'm hiding with you all.


GravatarCould God make a sandwich so big that he couldn't lift it?

So God needs Weight Watchers too?
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GravatarI call Log Cabin Republicans Future Kapos of Amerika.

A gay Republican during the past twenty-five years makes about as much sense as a Jewish Nazi in 1939.

Yes, I mean it. I know what I'm saying, I don't care about Foxman and Republicans can bite me with a dental dam.


GravatarChiDyke, in re Incog... Many of us have tried to be supportive of him and understanding of his situation, but even the simplest request that he refrain from the blanket condemnation of all of us 'hetero pukes' for his lot in life is ignored and we get snarled at even more. I feel sorry for the guy and I hope his cat String brings him some joy but I wind up having to ignore him when he gets down because he morphs into a troll. It's really sad but I just feel embarrased for him and find myself wishing that he'd just go away until he feels better if all he's going to do is piss all over any kind word anyone offers him.


GravatarPlease excuse the extreme vulgarity of these excerpts, but they demonstrate a point about unhinged liberal hatred that I will continue to expose:



Er, that's called PROJECTION.

The wingtards are SO good at it, aren't they?


GravatarIt's pretend beef. But it is spicy. And the lovin' is on the side.

I like pretend beef, 'specially if it's firm and spicy. And, of course, the lovin'.


Gravatarso i'm hiding with you all.
chicago dyke



Try to get her to take vitamin B-6, at least 200 mgs a day.

It might mellow her out.


GravatarI hate ring tones on cell phones.
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dieselcreek


In general, I tend to agree.

But a buddy of mine has a "clucking chickens" ringtone that cracks me up everytime I hear it.

*snicker*

Chickens.


GravatarBush is a Godly Man, and I guess that's all that matters.





That's like calling him brave and/or smart.


GravatarSSquirrel...you ought to have some of whatever Walter Neff is consuming...he's been on a roll all day.


GravatarAnnthrax Coulter is speaking in Tyler, TX (where ever that is), so there's an opportunity to greet her with a pie.
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Gravatarpseudonymous - My comment isn't attributed?

Is it the one where I said I wanted her head on a pike?

That's the one ether picked up and sent to Ralls.


GravatarSo, lemme summarise:

No Tena, alas. And no outright King Leopold, but definitely Big Daddy Mars' in-character quote and reply to King Leopold. (If I remember rightly, when King L. arrived on that thread, people joined in the joke.) And no attribution in the book, natch.

That section is followed by the weasliest justification of the Malkin nom de plume ever. Especially given that she's still 'Michelle Maglalang' in real life. 'Malkin' is as much a pseudonym as 'Atrios'.


Gravatar1watt.Secret Squirrel

Very interesting. I spend the summer working on animation projects for Rayovac's new hearing aid batteries. Zinc air stuff. They thinned the rubber gasket and annode metal to fit more zinc.

I know shit about real science, just a design jack-ass, but it was real interesting to learn about the process science behind it all.

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Gravatar"He [O'Lielly} has dozens of people in his neighborhood who are dead?"

I think he was referring to his brain-dead republican friends.


GravatarAnnthrax Coulter is speaking in Tyler, TX (where ever that is)


East tx, about an hour and a half east of Dallas.


Gravatarhe's a Republican at heart, but doesn't want to leave CT for Redder climes. For these people, it really is the sex-and-gender, not the lies.
Doozer (truncated)


Lieberman can't do that.

He's Jewish - they're not popular in Jebusland.


GravatarI like pretend beef, 'specially if it's firm and spicy. And, of course, the lovin'.

Firm, spicy beef is best for lovin.'
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GravatarNevermind - I just saw the comment where you said I wasn't in the book.

Goddamn it.


GravatarWhere is Holy JOe. The one who critisizes Clinton. He stands silent and kisses Bush. If Joe was a quaterback on a football team, nobody woudl block for him.
Live Free or Die


This is actually a good criticism, but I don't think the individual gets to choose who is going to be the spokesman on a given issue. I've also heard that the Sunday shows don't put congresscritters on, just senators.


Gravatarso i'm hiding with you all.
chicago dyke


Feed her a tasty dinner. It's really hard to stay angry when your belly is full.

I don't have any longer lasting answers though.


Gravatar "He [O'Lielly} has dozens of people in his neighborhood who are dead?"

I think he was referring to his brain-dead republican friends.


In my neighborhood, both are true.
Empty summer houses owned by Republicans.

Good stars in winter, though.


GravatarNap, good!

Ladyfriend interrupting nap, better!
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GravatarChiDyke,
I totally fail your queer test these days, but I'm old.
Don't do roomates anymore, 'cept my Scotty girl.
And I still wanna know a good margarita mix.
You have my sympathies aon the Mad Roomie.


GravatarSo God needs Weight Watchers too?

BLASPHEMER!


GravatarTena really made Malkin's book? Hilarious!

What an honor! It should encourage the rest of us to new peaks of Michele Malkin abuse.

"ESPNews anchor just called a South Carolina D-lineman "buxom". Oh dear"

Rubenesque is what I ususally say, or used to. Now I use that for baseball players. Football is group sumo adapted for a cooler climate.


GravatarThat's like calling him brave and/or smart.

All you have to do is self-identify as a Godly Man, and get the religious right's stamp of approval.

Any actual Jesuslike views would just get in the way of the Godliness.

Actually, come to think of it, *God* is a vengeful, sadistic bastard, so Bush and all the fundies *are* Godly - they're just not Christly.


GravatarIn general, I tend to agree.

But a buddy of mine has a "clucking chickens" ringtone that cracks me up everytime I hear it.



I don't mind animal sounds. It's the stupid fucking songs that make me crazy.

A friend of mine has one that sounds like a flock of chirping birds. I want that.


Gravatarpseudonymous - My comment isn't attributed?

You're not in print, alas.

Since none of the quotes are attributed, I misremembered which verbal pounding of Maglagulag was yours... damn B&N and their camphone-banning staff!

Funnily enough, the book fell open at the comments section. I didn't have to look for more than, oh, 10 seconds. Regnery is really a Grub Street operation, though: cheap, badly proofed, badly typeset and made for bulk sales and the remainder bin.


GravatarActually, come to think of it, *God* is a vengeful, sadistic bastard, so Bush and all the fundies *are* Godly - they're just not Christly.


I'll say. I hates him. He's a dick.


GravatarI thought incog was still here, just posting under yet another name.

*shrugs*


Gravatarbeing able to rely on somebody when your party's principles and future is at stake. Fuck Lieberman.

same goes for mccain, except change party to nation. of course i respect his position on torture, where was he in 2004? kiss'n george torturing bush's ass. he is a pandering asshole.

i guess i'm a dem. i registered so i could vote for kerry in the primaries, but really i just want the batshit insane criminals out of the whitehouse. oh well, america, love it or leave it?

i'd feel so ashamed if i was one of those Proud to be an American types.


GravatarMy God. She doesn't get it, does she.

Poor deranged thing.


She gets it. She knows full well what snark is.

She also knows that her (very limited) readership loves that kind of 'proof' of what lunatics we moonbats are.

So she prints the excerpts as fact.

Works for her.


Gravatarchicago dyke - You are in a bind, love, and I'm worried about you. If she's that prone to acting out violently - it could get worse. Are you sure there isn't someplace else you can go, even for awhile?


GravatarHey, *is* there a gay equivalent to "Uncle Tom"?

Uncle Arthur.

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GravatarI don't mind animal sounds. It's the stupid fucking songs that make me crazy.

I especially love when the sound quality is staggeringly bad. Have they no shame at all???


Gravatarso i'm hiding with you all.
chicago dyke

finding the right meds is probably the most difficult thing to do. I seem to be a magnet for deranged people, I've tried to help but unless they find the right combo, they feel totally out of sorts and weird, therefore would rather not take anything but alcohol.(I'm hiding from a couple of them now)


GravatarBush is a Godly Man

The liar Bush only plays one on TV, for public consumption.


GravatarI'd like to see the deranged pekinese reduced to working behind the counter at a chick fillet.


Gravatarpseudonymous - My comment isn't attributed?

Heh heh. Tena must have hit too close to home.


GravatarUncle Arthur.

The center square!


Gravataryou don't want to live his life, trust me.


Good Lord! Move to Madison. I'm hetero and feel like the minority here on the East side.

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dieselcreek | Ho


that's kinda the point. not all of us can. i like madison a lot, and i'm considering it as a place to apply to for long term employment. but what about folks like incog, stuck in the middle of bible belt hell, with few opportunties to get the fuck out? if you're poor or uneducated, or have "issues" and no support services, moving to a happy, accepting town can be more than tough.

i know the same thing is true for minorities and political dissidents, but all i'm saying is that i 'get' why he's a crazy drunk. i've met a lot, i mean a whole lot, of beautiful, intelligent, otherwise desireable queers who are "twisted" like he is, most from years and years of some kind of combination of oppression, abuse, and no support.

....ah suka. if only, if only. i could tell you all some real horror stories about the Only Woman i've ever met who was that compatible with me in certain ways, but dangerously batshit crazy. the bottom line: the state took everything away from her when she was coming out, scarring her for life. seriously: sometimes incog is right: you "hetero pukes" just don't understand what it can be like to be queer in our fucked up society.


GravatarFrom ThinkProgress:

Appearing yesterday on a conservative San Francisco radio show, Bill O’Reilly offered his first public comments since being criticized for saying he would approve of an al Qaeda terrorist attack on the California city.

O’Reilly not only stood by his comments, but claimed they “needed to be said.”


COCKPUNCH x 10,000
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GravatarI especially love when the sound quality is staggeringly bad. Have they no shame at all???


That's my point. It's like muzak from hell.


GravatarShe also knows that her (very limited) readership loves that kind of 'proof' of what lunatics we moonbats are.

For the record, I AM A FUCKING DERANGED LIBERAL LUNATIC WHO IS FULL OF HATE!


Gravatarall i have is pity for incog. i'll never yell at him, and only gently joke with him. i know far too many queers driven to real, ugly insanity by the world around them, and the lack of support that could alleviate the pressures that cause them to crack, like he does so often.

To be honest, I've never thought being queer had anything to do with it. It's booze. He reminds me of a friend of mine - nice guy, quiet, salt of the earth. Starts hitting the booze and there's absolutely no dealing with him.


GravatarSomething I have had a big hankering for lately is a damn fine Margarita, but triple sec and Cointreau aren't things I keep around. Anybody got a vote on a good mix?
plantsman


No. Double No. Roses,orange juice, ice.


Gravatarflory, I think she's deranged.

She needs help, really.


Gravatarso i'm hiding with you all.
chicago dyke


Hey, we have soup, and booze (Irish? Scotch? Martini?), good discussions and the occasional troll to kick around.

This is a great place to hide.


Gravatar If it's roast beef, mustard is the Prime Condiment, but mayo (or Miracle Whip, sorry NYMary) is not Satanic. Turkey must have mayo/MC. Ham must have mustard.

It's all in Leviticus.
NTodd, Homoe Bitch


You left out the "Thou shalt not put ketchup on a hot dog" bit. Might not be Leviticus, though. I always felt it was more of a Commandment.
And Merkle Whup is so Satanic! Anything that...wrong has to be. Miracle Whip pizza? Nuff said...


Gravatar but what about folks like incog, stuck in the middle of bible belt hell, with few opportunties to get the fuck out? if you're poor or uneducated, or have "issues" and no support services, moving to a happy, accepting town can be more than tough.


I agree. Plus he has family and a twin where he is.

You guys can't even imagine what a hell it is to be gay in a not-so-big town in the south. And remember he's a gulf war I vet. No telling what fucking chemicals he was exposed to.


GravatarIt's quite clear by now that Malkin is Merkin Patriot.

And she means every word, bless her malapropin' heart.


Gravatarif you're poor or uneducated, or have "issues" and no support services, moving to a happy, accepting town can be more than tough.




I hear ya, but people gotta be tough sometimes. It's either their own well-being or continuing in a cycle of bad habits.


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Gravatar"Hey, *is* there a gay equivalent to 'Uncle Tom'?"

Uncle Arthur.


I think Uncle Arthur was the exact opposite of "Uncle Tom."


GravatarI wanna see her 'manning' the Lumpia booth at a crappy county fair.


GravatarSo God needs Weight Watchers too?

BLASPHEMER!


BLASPHEMERETTE!
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GravatarThe problem with centre right Dems like Joementum, is that they really do believe that they will be treated well by the the Right wing media.

When the right was trying to bring down Clinton, Joe was blinded by the talking heads, and the nuts. He thought it was a chance to jump on the ‘people’ bandwagon. He got a taste for it, so he he ended up supporting a right wing idiot as President. But now Bush has turned to shit and Joe has burned his bridges with his own side.

Oh, and Joe……If you had become the Dem nomination to take on Bush, the Right wing media would have torn you apart.


Gravatarchicago dyke, I don't know what to say except please take care of yourself. Even if it means getting out.


GravatarYou have my sympathies aon the Mad Roomie.
plantsman | Email | Homepage | 11.12.05 - 5:58 pm | #

you might try making a 1:1 sugar syrup then cut it with key lime juice. I haven't found any of the foundry 'rita mixes to be worth using. Unfortunately, triple sec is pretty necessary to a decent 'rita.


GravatarA&E has a show on about the weather, and of course they have to include all the batshit fundie Apocalypse garbage.

I remember when that crap never got credence from TV documentaries.


Gravatarhey moonbats


GravatarI think Uncle Arthur was the exact opposite of "Uncle Tom."

Heh heh heh...

One of the great voices of all time. I totally dig that the alien on American Dad sounds just like him.


GravatarYou left out the "Thou shalt not put ketchup on a hot dog" bit. Might not be Leviticus, though.

That must be in the Dead Sea Scrolls.


GravatarI think Uncle Arthur was the exact opposite of "Uncle Tom."
dave™


Maybe he meant Bea Arthur?
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GravatarShe gets it. She knows full well what snark is.

I agree with flory. It's a book she was able to phone in, knowing her little fans will love it.


GravatarO’Reilly not only stood by his comments, but claimed they “needed to be said.”

Not the World Champeen backer-downer, is he?


Gravatarhey're always running on the roof to get from one tree to the other. Probably should check the gutters soon.

What are gutters?


GravatarWTF? Texas up 52-7 early in the third.

Re Incog, hard for me to feel sorry for anybody that is a stone cold racist and proud of it. Plus his badgering of RMJ is just plain bullshit.


Gravatar Kennedy enters police terror row

Charles Kennedy has said Met Police chief Sir Ian Blair "overstepped the mark" with his support for proposals to hold terrorist suspects for 90 days.

The Liberal Democrat leader will enter the row on BBC One's The Politics Show.

Defence Secretary John Reid has denied Tory claims police were "politicised" in the run-up to last week's vote.

Meanwhile, Michael Howard has written to Tony Blair asking if police need the minister's permission to appear in the media, following remarks by Mr Reid.


Gravatarplantsman - that sounds like a wonderful recipe for turkey gravy.


GravatarWhoa! 468 posts troll-free!

I like it.
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GravatarPlus his badgering of RMJ is just plain bullshit.

Or rorschach, for his Insufficient Queer Purity.


GravatarWelcome back, Moonb.


GravatarRe Incog, hard for me to feel sorry for anybody that is a stone cold racist and proud of it. Plus his badgering of RMJ is just plain bullshit.

Plus his anti-Semitic rants from out of nowhere...


GravatarI've just learnt to channel incog out when i read commentds.

Talabani sees timetable for troop exit in 2006

ROME (Reuters) - Iraqi President Jalal Talabani said on Saturday that it may be possible to reach an agreement by the end of 2006 on the withdrawal of foreign troops from his country.

Speaking to reporters in Rome at the end of a week-long visit to Italy, Talabani said the Iraqis were training their police and soldiers to try to create the conditions for foreign troops to be able to leave.

"We are looking forward to the day we can say goodbye to the forces of the coalition," he said. "If things continue as they are I think by the end of 2006 we can discuss the end of the presence of foreign troops."


GravatarHey, *is* there a gay equivalent to "Uncle Tom"?
Uncle Arthur.
WalterNeff, Malkin's Manbitch |

In the book Uncle Tom was actually a postitive character. It was in popularizations and dramatizations that he turned into "Uncle Tom".

There isn't A gay equivalent to "Uncle Tom" there are many. Andrew Sullivan, Dreier, Melman, Mary Cheney, Lindsay Graham,..... the entire Log Cabin Kapos Klub.


GravatarYou guys can't even imagine what a hell it is to be gay in a not-so-big town in the south



I had a gay friend in my hometown of 360 people in Northern WI. It was not a good experience for the kid. The only option he ended up with was to escape the town that was eventually gonna kill him (mentally, if not physically in some sorta bar fight or chance attack)

It's a bitch. No easy answers. I'll never completely understand the mentality of hate things that are different.

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GravatarO’Reilly not only stood by his comments, but claimed they “needed to be said.”


Like Bush, the right-tards are never, ever wrong.


Gravatarplantsman thanks


Gravatarhard for me to feel sorry for anybody that is a stone cold racist and proud of it

Yeah, that pretty much sucks, frankly. And his attacks on some of the posters, like rmj, leaves one definitely unsympathetic.


GravatarFor the record, I AM A FUCKING DERANGED LIBERAL LUNATIC WHO IS FULL OF HATE!
NTodd, Homoe Bitch


Calm down.

Annthrax already has you in her next book.

Something about traitorous Quakers...


GravatarMiracle Whip is Satanic.


GravatarOr rorschach, for his Insufficient Queer Purity

True, but rorschach never misses an opportunity to egg him on or to say something nasty to him.

I find that equally obnoxious.


GravatarResolute Leadership


GravatarThat must be in the Dead Sea Scrolls.
NTodd, Homoe Bitch


Nah, the Dead Seafood Scrolls dealt mainly with tartar sause vs lemon butter. The argument became so heated they ripped eachother's scrolls to bits, and that's what was found in the caves in Qumran...


GravatarTurkey must have mayo

One of my favorite parts of Thanksgiving is the turkey sandwiches.

White bread, mayo (Duke's if available), copious quantities of turkey, sliced kosher dills, lettuce, and lotso pepper.


GravatarGood Lord! Move to Madison. I'm hetero and feel like the minority here on the East side.

I know you didn't mean anything by this, but think about it. Why should any person have their freedom of movement denied just because they are gay. I've tried to order my daughter not to go to any red states because I don't want to see her beaten to death by a bunch of hillbilly yahoos. Now why should she be prohibited, upon fear of death, from living exactly where she wants to live?


GravatarNtodd is a liar! Deranged liberal lunatics are incapable of coherant framing. Ntodd is a passable hack photographer who can demonstrably frame things. Ergo he is not deranged.


GravatarMiracle Whip is Satanic.


Maybe. But I like it. I can't abide mayonnaise.


Gravatar"God hates me"

"Hate him back, it works for me"


The wingnuts are losing it completely, I think it's a plot to get all my Xanax and Lithium, but I'm on to their little tricks. I'm gonna take twice as many, that way, they'll last twice as long.


GravatarWho needs mayo or mustard when there's horseradish?


GravatarThere isn't A gay equivalent to "Uncle Tom" there are many. Andrew Sullivan, Dreier, Melman, Mary Cheney, Lindsay Graham,..... the entire Log Cabin Kapos Klub.
EPT


All the high-ranking members of the Catholic hierarchy who think the answer to the priest pedophilia problem is to bar gays from the priesthood?


GravatarI hate to get into this Incog discussion, but he lost me totally with his badgering of Robert Jeffers and his insufferable treatment of rorschach, who is my friend.


GravatarYou guys can't even imagine what a hell it is to be gay in a not-so-big town in the south

That's why the Flying Spaghetti Monster invented big cities.
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GravatarYou left out the "Thou shalt not put ketchup on a hot dog" bit.

There are commies on this blog.

That is all.


GravatarWell, that was unpleasant, but it's over now...


Gravatarchicago dyke

If ya ever need a place to stay in Madison for a day or two, my girlfriend and I live in a house right in the center of town.

Liberals are always welcome.

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GravatarTrue, but rorschach never misses an opportunity to egg him on or to say something nasty to him.

My recollection is that Incog usually starts it, but I could be wrong.

I have him pretty much categorized as a troll, and ignore him accordingly.


GravatarThat's why the Flying Spaghetti Monster invented big cities.


True. I think incog would be happier in a big city.


GravatarWith any luck, Ranch dressing will phase out Mayo by this time next year.


GravatarPlus his badgering of RMJ is just plain bullshit.

Or rorschach, for his Insufficient Queer Purity.


*THAT'S* the shit that really pisses me off. The taunting of RMJ and subsequent refusal to listen to his thoughtful, passionate answers. And projecting this "fag spokesperson" shit onto Rory, the "beard" shit, and claiming he doesn't qualify as gay, all at the same time.

I actually talk about this stuff with my shrink. One of the things that gets me the most upset/angry in life is patently false/wrong stuff, whether it's charges of homophobia or people claiming 2+2=5. I can't stand it. And, of course, when it comes to the Incog stuff, there's no even proving anything (at least mathematically you've got something to stand on). First time Incog lit into me for being a homophobe (must've been, what, over 2 years ago now), I was physically shaking and hot.


Gravatarchicago dyke, try waiting for her to be in a calmer mood, then suggest counseling. She absolutely doesn't have to take meds (she may need then, but that's not for me to say). Just point out that she doesn't seem happy. Screaming, throwing things and broken dishes do not say "happy times." Maybe talking to a professional would help.

Most therapists and counselors these days are used to seeing people opposed to meds, and (I assume) will work with them to see how far talk therapy can help. Maybe in a few months, the counselor can bring it up again, if needed.

The calm moment may be when she drops from exhaustion after a full blown fit. If she gets to that point she may be able to hear you without being too defensive. Good luck.


GravatarScientology?
Eli


Still less freaky than scientology. Those galvanic cans repulse me.


GravatarMiracle Whip is Satanic.

Yeah, and what's the big fucking "miracle" anyway? That they get people to pay for that shit?

I guess "Black Mass Whip" wouldn't fly off the shelves.


GravatarThe O'Riley thing is a distration. When the Right is in trouble, they pick a fight with a straw man.

SF is the straw man. O'Riley is just trying to start a fight that he knows the red state morons will rally behind.


GravatarAll the high-ranking members of the Catholic hierarchy who think the answer to the priest pedophilia problem is to bar gays from the priesthood?
Terry C

And all of those fundamentalists who spend more time thinking about gay sex in the past ten years than I have in,.... let's just say a long life.


GravatarOf course Robert Jeffers is my friend too. Incog just hasn't insulted Robert in quite the same way that he has insulted rorschach.

That one went all over me and I can't let it go.


GravatarI'm still trying to puzzle out why a dude accosted me at the Crack 'Ho Barrel cashier station, to let me know, quite enthusiastically, that UK was winning their football game. Yeah, I'm from Kentucky... but I wasn't wearing anything UK-related (I'm pretty sure I don't own any college-branded clothing, actually).

WTF??
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GravatarI still think Incog is Sumwon, but that's just my opinion.


GravatarAnnthrax already has you in her next book.

Something about traitorous Quakers...


WHOOHOO! That's just the kind of spontaneous publicity I need!

Nah, the Dead Seafood Scrolls dealt mainly with tartar sause vs lemon butter.

Look, I'm a hack Biblical scholar, and I think you're in league with Lucifer.

My recollection is that Incog usually starts it, but I could be wrong.

He does, but much like BushCo, he accuses other people of starting it.


Gravatarql in ny

I understand what you are saying. But when you want to feel most at home, you find friends and family no matter where they are located.

I don't visit my hometown anymore, mainly because of the fucking asshole red-necks. Madison offered the right atmosphere and family feel that the north woods never would.

So I give up one thing for another.

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GravatarBoy, Brandi Swindell looks like a tightassed bitch!

She and Condi must frequent the same hairdresser.


GravatarI deal with Mr Nosenglass in a simple manner; while he can still convey, fine, but as soon as he goes into Hetero Puke Overdrive, he just isn't there anymore. You can talk to a TrOoL easier than him, so what's the use? He'll always be better tomorrow. For a while...


GravatarDue to the responses to my margarita query, I fear I may just have to buy all the real stuff plus some good tequila and get REALLY plastered.
I'm game.


GravatarI guess "Black Mass Whip" wouldn't fly off the shelves.

Dunno. You'd get the Black Sabbath crowd...


Gravatar Yeah, I'm from Kentucky... but I wasn't wearing anything UK-related (I'm pretty sure I don't own any college-branded clothing, actually).

WTF??


He must have KY-dar finely honed...

I assume it would be pronunciation or something?


GravatarI just don't get the opposition to meds. It's all about chemistry. Welbutrin saved my life.


GravatarMy recollection is that Incog usually starts it, but I could be wrong.


I think it's about equal.

And you know what? I see his point, even if I don't agree with him.

If you're out and trying to live in american society these days you have to put up with all the bullshit that goes along with it. I can't even imagine what that must be like.

Incog thinks rorschach is "passing."

I'm not agreeing, I'm just saying that's the argument.


GravatarSF is the straw man. O'Riley is just trying to start a fight that he knows the red state morons will rally behind.

SF should change the name of Coit Tower to "Christmas Tower" or "The North Pole", just to make his head explode.


GravatarIn Amsterdam they serve mayo on French Fries. It's so delicious.
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GravatarWho needs mayo or mustard when there's horseradish?
mike in pr


Mustard is essential for roast beast and cream cheese on a cinnamon raisin bagel. BTW, I make most excellent roast beast.


GravatarNow why should she be prohibited, upon fear of death, from living exactly where she wants to live?
ql in ny


She shouldn't. And in a just world, she wouldn't.

But in this world -- why would she want to live in one of those hellholes anyhoo. There's a reason only illiterate inbred wingnuts populate those places.


GravatarSpeaking of Uncle Arthur, when I was a kid, him and Dr. Bombay ("Calling Dr. Bombay! Calling Dr. Bombay!") were the two reasons I watched "Bewitched" every week. If they weren't on, I'd usually drift away.

And yes, kids, I turned out to be a hetero puke!


GravatarI like incognito but I've given up trying to talk to him. He seems like someone who has had to put up with a lot of shit from right wing "christians" and who blames people who would be on his side if he didn't drive them nuts.


GravatarPeretz threatens to topple Sharon government

JERUSALEM (Reuters) - New Labor party chief Amir Peretz threatened on Sunday to bring down Ariel Sharon's coalition government next week unless the prime minister meets him quickly to agree on a date for an early election.

"If a meeting with Sharon does not take place at the beginning of the week, we may act to topple the government on Wednesday," said Peretz, surprise winner over elder statesman Shimon Peres of Labor's leadership election on Thursday.

Israel's parliament is expected to vote on several no-confidence motions on Wednesday. Support from Labor, Sharon's biggest coalition partners, is crucial if the government is to survive the votes.

An election must be held within 90 days if parliament passes a no-confidence vote.


GravatarPeretz threatens to topple Sharon government

JERUSALEM (Reuters) - New Labor party chief Amir Peretz threatened on Sunday to bring down Ariel Sharon's coalition government next week unless the prime minister meets him quickly to agree on a date for an early election.

"If a meeting with Sharon does not take place at the beginning of the week, we may act to topple the government on Wednesday," said Peretz, surprise winner over elder statesman Shimon Peres of Labor's leadership election on Thursday.

Israel's parliament is expected to vote on several no-confidence motions on Wednesday. Support from Labor, Sharon's biggest coalition partners, is crucial if the government is to survive the votes.

An election must be held within 90 days if parliament passes a no-confidence vote.


GravatarI still think Incog is Sumwon, but that's just my opinion.

No, I don't think so.


The voice is wrong.


GravatarMiracle Whip is Satanic.
Tena


There's no miracle in Miracle Whip.

Tonight's menu for dinner for 4:


Starters:

baba ganoush
soprasetta sausage
drunken goat cheese
assorted olives
farinata

Main course:

Stuffed baked whole red snapper, Basque style. Oh, Goddess. it is yummy.

green salad

Dessert:

Lemon tart
coffee

amusements.


Gravatar In Amsterdam they serve mayo on French Fries. It's so delicious.

To the best of my recollection, everything there was delicious...


GravatarWith any luck, Ranch dressing will phase out Mayo by this time next year.
Jay C.


Ewwww!

Not bloody likely.

I hate Ranch dressing AND Miracle Whip.

They will have to pry the jar of Hellmann's out of my cold, dead hands.


GravatarTena, I guess. I am always reluctant to completely judge people for outbursts. Sometimes the demons win, you know?

A caution for us all: we are all pilgrims on a journey to understanding. Our task is to keep moving or suffer the consequences. When we decide we know everything, we have lost.

Religions, sensation, pretention, hatred, love: are all way stations on our way. We just have to keep moving.

And though Incog can be a classless asshole, he can also be very kind and caring.


GravatarOh, lazy-assed blogwhore: I've got some stuff about the latest Newsweek poll (in the context of other polls), and a not-at-all-disturbing picture of my still-alive-but-mostly-dead cat. Click on the Homepage, you hetero and homo pukes!


GravatarI like incognito but I've given up trying to talk to him. He seems like someone who has had to put up with a lot of shit from right wing "christians" and who blames people who would be on his side if he didn't drive them nuts.


Just ignore him when he gets in his moods.


Gravatartriple sec and Cointreau aren't things I keep around. Anybody got a vote on a good mix?
plantsman

triple sec & Cointreau serve the same purpose.
Fresh lime juice, powdered sugar, orange concentrate (frozen), blend or shake w/ice. And Andrasas (sp) tequila runs 14.00 a bottle, almost as good as any 35.00 kind. Cuervo is a blended tequila and tastes like kerosene to me.


GravatarTerryC: word. Miracle Whip is something you might use if you needed a sandwich and it was Christmas and the little emergency packets of Mayo in the drawer have all been used up. . . .


GravatarIf you're out and trying to live in american society these days you have to put up with all the bullshit that goes along with it. I can't even imagine what that must be like.

And I don't disbelieve that for a second. But he keeps putting it on us like we're to blame, when *we're* the ones who are opposed to it. That gets old real fast.


GravatarNtodd, is saffie still eating and drinking? or is she just hanging out and sleeping?


Gravatar In Amsterdam they serve mayo on French Fries. It's so delicious.

Great, now I'm gonna have to pop Pulp Fiction in the player...

Just ignore him when he gets in his moods.

I am incapable of that.


GravatarIn Amsterdam they serve mayo on French Fries. It's so delicious.
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Dartanyon


My eldest just got back from London, where they put vinegar on chips (heh, chips) and then dip them in mayo.

Wacky Brits.


GravatarNow why should she be prohibited, upon fear of death, from living exactly where she wants to live?

Because reality bites? And people deserve happiness.

I suppose you can either stay and tough it out and hope things get better and do what you can to help them get better, or you go somewhere else.

But life's too short, and if you feel you're constantly running into a brick wall...


It's not going to change overnight, but progress is being made. At least, the public is talking about it. Would have been unheard of in the fairly recent past.


GravatarI'm still reading up the blog, Malkin really complained about Eschatonians being mean to her on C-Span?

Atrios, you have not lived in vain. None of us has.


GravatarI have him pretty much categorized as a troll, and ignore him accordingly. Eli

Me too. His "vile, hetero puke" shtick grew tired in about 3 minutes.
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GravatarLeonard Pitts nails it

Him and Carl Hiassen make it worth registering for the Miami Herald.

So, when Mangalangadindong talked about us on CSPAN, did she mention the correct website address? Can we expect new visitors soon?


GravatarBut in this world -- why would she want to live in one of those hellholes anyhoo. There's a reason only illiterate inbred wingnuts populate those places.
flory


Kind of like BartCop.com's take on Israel.

He says "Why would you want to live in the middle of a desert surrounded by MILLIONS of people who want to kill you? Doesn't make sense."

I don't agree with Bart all the time, but he's right on target there!


GravatarTo the best of my recollection, everything there was delicious...
Jay C.


I laugh.


GravatarThat gets old real fast.


I understand.


I just think he's like one of my friends who is the nicest guy imaginable, but becomes a raging crazy man when he drinks.

All the rage, frustration, and fear come pouring out.

Scroll past. That's all I'm saying.


GravatarWe love our fish & chips with lots of salt and Vinegar.


GravatarI just don't get the opposition to meds. It's all about chemistry. Welbutrin saved my life.




Welbutrin gave me hives. D'oh. I'm stuck with Zoloft. Sucks, but without it, "You would not like me when I am anrgy." takes over.


I actually turn green.

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GravatarDurkee's Dressing.

Handmade mustard.

Horseradish.

These three things are what mayonnaise would like to be when it grows up.


GravatarI am incapable of that.
NTodd, Homoe Bitch


Just think of soup....


GravatarAtrios, you have not lived in vain. None of us has.
EPT

I have wondered at the identity of some of the posters. My feelings are that Jon Stewart frequents us as well as extreme asshats like Malkin. You never know . . .


GravatarIncog thinks rorschach is "passing."

I'm not agreeing, I'm just saying that's the argument.
fourlegsgood


Well I think that's deeply disturbing because if there's one thing gay people should understand, it's tolerance for someone's sexuality when it's different than yours.

Furthermore, that's deeply insulting.


GravatarMy eldest just got back from London, where they put vinegar on chips (heh, chips) and then dip them in mayo.

In certain corners of New England, you'll find diners with malt vinegar, but no ketchup, on the tables. It's outstanding.


GravatarI'm not a big mayo fan, but I'm pretty certain I've never, knowingly, had Miracle Whip... guess I'll have to put that on my "to-do" list this holiday season!


GravatarI'm still reading up the blog, Malkin really complained about Eschatonians being mean to her on C-Span?

Atrios, you have not lived in vain. None of us has.
EPT


Has it every occurred to her that she ASKS for it by being a delusional, racist bitch?


GravatarAnyhoo, on to happier topics.


Like how chimpy sucks ass and the world knows it.


GravatarTo the best of my recollection, everything there was delicious...
Jay C.
duh


GravatarSF should change the name of Coit Tower to "Christmas Tower" or "The North Pole", just to make his head explode.
Eli


What Coit Tower is, is the Dead Firefighters Memorial Tower.

Wingnut heads exploding yet?


GravatarScroll past. That's all I'm saying.

That's what I do, and why.


GravatarIn Amsterdam they serve mayo on French Fries. It's so delicious.

And the Canadians.

I didn't know until recently that parts of Canada have chip trucks (like TX has taco trucks) with several kinds of delicious dipping sauces.


GravatarIf you're out and trying to live in american society these days you have to put up with all the bullshit that goes along with it. I can't even imagine what that must be like.

And I don't disbelieve that for a second. But he keeps putting it on us like we're to blame, when *we're* the ones who are opposed to it. That gets old real fast.


Bingo. He tells us we don't care about him (or the House Fags), we're to blame for it all (mostly RMJ because he, like, knows about the Bible and shit), and won't listen to a goddamn thing that ANYBODY has to say. He's as bad as a winger.

Ntodd, is saffie still eating and drinking? or is she just hanging out and sleeping?

Well, she stopped eating this weekend, but started back up again on Wednesday after I thought she'd taken The Long Walk. Basically sleeping all day, occassionally getting up to drink. Alas, the living room smells like pee, so she's clearly having bladder control issues now. Thank god for incense.

I've been feeling guilty lately because I kinda want her to just die. I don't like the rollercoaster ride, but I can rush her and am a pussy (heh) when it comes to making the Final Decision. I've never had to do that--all my animals have died on their own.


GravatarMy feelings are that Jon Stewart frequents us as well as extreme asshats like Malkin. You never know . . .
DWD - Ego Driven


If Keith Olbermann ever drops in, I have a very special message I would like to deliver to him...


GravatarMichelle has contacted me. I'm on Cloud Nine - just across the way from where Jesus lives. Here is her reply to my 137 messages:

| STOP LOVING ME YOU MUST STOP PLEASE STOP IT |

That's a very confusing telegram. I think she's saying she will love me forever. The telegram using the word "stop" instead of a period is so charming and quaint. I will save this telegram forever and ever. Really. It's funny, though, I didn't realize Western Union used armed law enforcement personnel when they delivered messages. I'm so happy I could hide in the back of Chevrolet Caprice with a rifle.

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GravatarIncog was Mars Spirit Rover, and I don't remember him ever going off when he posted under that name.


GravatarI think that's deeply disturbing because if there's one thing gay people should understand, it's tolerance for someone's sexuality when it's different than yours.

Oh, boy... you've obviously never been around a whole lot of gays.

The queers vs. bi's battles are incendiary!

Almost as bad as the homos vs. dykes contretemps...


GravatarI'm not a big mayo fan, but I'm pretty certain I've never, knowingly, had Miracle Whip... guess I'll have to put that on my "to-do" list this holiday season!
dave™


You're probably healthier for not eating mayo -- it's like 100% fat, but man, I gots ta' have it on left over turkey sandwiches and to mix chicken salad.
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GravatarDWD - No way. If there is nothing else, I'll take butter over Miracle Whip.

There's just no excuse for that stuff. ick


GravatarI'm stuck with Zoloft. Sucks, but without it, "You would not like me when I am angry." takes over.


I actually turn green.

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dieselcreek


I was on that for six months after my fuckface ex left in 1998.

Kept me functioning. I had 2 jobs at the time and I needed something to keep me going.


GravatarIn Amsterdam they serve mayo on French Fries. It's so delicious.

To the best of my recollection, everything there was delicious...
Jay C.



Maybe if you stay out of the "coffee" shops, Smoke enough of that shit and the lid on the jar tastes good.


Gravatarciao again gonna watch another DVD then possibly go to bed.

c u whenever!


GravatarHas it every occurred to her that she ASKS for it by being a delusional, racist bitch?
Terry C

I have to admit that I hope she read the gordon the magnificent wallpaper that I posted back in his hey day. The one where I accused twenty thousand liberals of raping Michele Malkin since lunch time. Or something like that.


GravatarI didn't know until recently that parts of Canada have chip trucks (like TX has taco trucks) with several kinds of delicious dipping sauces.

Chip wagons.... *gurrggglle*


GravatarWell I think that's deeply disturbing because if there's one thing gay people should understand, it's tolerance for someone's sexuality when it's different than yours.

Furthermore, that's deeply insulting.



That's not the point. Rorschact talked quite a bit about being bi- to the point where I thought he was a gay woman.

There are still lots of closeted gays who marry women and pretend to be straight for appearances sake. (most of them are republican)

Do they have an easier time in society than an openly gay man? of course they do.


GravatarWhat Coit Tower is, is the Dead Firefighters Memorial Tower.

Legend has it Lillie Coit's admiration for fireman had less to do with their official duties and more to do with duties of a, shall we say, more personal nature.

And that ain't a firehose the tower looks like!


GravatarNTodd:
Is Saff holding her own?


GravatarMe too. His "vile, hetero puke" shtick grew tired in about 3 minutes.

Isn't that just because you're the House Fag?

We love our fish & chips with lots of salt and Vinegar.

Good lord, so do I. I always ask places if they have vinegar before I order their fish'n'chips. Usually they say, "we serve it with tartar sauce," and I order my second choice.

Just think of soup....

Your soup? That might help. 'course, I might become...indisposed for a few minutes at a time...


GravatarI'm not agreeing, I'm just saying that's the argument.
fourlegsgood


Well, I saw him go after Jeffers the other day and it completely disrupted the conversation and was just plain mean. And R's life's decisions are really none of our business and absolutely have no place being criticized here.

All that being said. Two of the funniest moments on this blog was the night Incog found out String is a girl, and the morning he went stark raving mad because BD said he was gonna make some gumbo. Claimed BD culdn't possibly make gumbo because BD was from MI and not LA. My word, I've never seen anybody go off like that over gumbo.


GravatarMalt vinegar on fries IS delicious.


GravatarAnd that ain't a firehose the tower looks like!

Well, in a manner of speaking...


GravatarTerry C, tried Wellbutrin and Prozac: decided being terminally depressed was better than that shit. Did weird things to me and truly inhibited some things that I truly value. (creativity and sex, if you must know. Damned stuff makes it nearly impossible to find relief)


GravatarFirst time Incog lit into me for being a homophobe (must've been, what, over 2 years ago now), I was physically shaking and hot.

How did your psychiatrist interpret that?!?!?!?

/running away with copy of Freud.


Gravatardave - I've been around my fair share of gay people. My best friend from high school - that was a long time ago. My nephew and his spouse and various friends here.

I've heard my friends here go off on transsexuals as cop outs. I haven't heard the bi thing - I guess it never came up.


GravatarI love malt vinegar on fries. Oh, yummy yum yum.

I have it once a year, maybe. Damn calories.


GravatarThe queers vs. bi's battles are incendiary!

I had 50 bucks on the Queers in theie '82