I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

first on a driveby?


Gravatarwhy not?


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Gravataryikes!

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GravatarFoist!


GravatarSooner than many.


GravatarFresh air!


GravatarLovely fresh sheets


GravatarNew thread! I've been so out of the loop, I hadn't heard about the earthquake in China.


GravatarWhat's wrong with Ann Coulter?


GravatarNew thread! I've been so out of the loop, I hadn't heard about the earthquake in China.


What earthquake?


I guess I'm out of the loop too.


GravatarFour legs good:

"The owl hoots at midnight!"

Fabulous!

Thanks, 'cuz some of those folks downstairs were obnoxious to the point of me not wanting to comment.


Gravatar4LG,

There was a 5.5 earthquake in China, according to CNN.


GravatarIt was a 5.7 earthquake in China.


GravatarI'm a lumberjack and I'm okay...

(and fuck haloscan with a rusty chainsaw and a twist of lemon)


GravatarThat's a pretty stiff temblor - 5.7.

When did it happen?


GravatarDamn - that was a long thread!


GravatarOh, hell - doc is talking about David Duke.

What a schmuck. Looks like a weasel.


GravatarFabulous!


hee hee.


GravatarI don't feel like doing much of anything today. Again.


GravatarWoooooooHooooooooooo!!


GravatarWhat's wrong with Ann Coulter?
Blue Wind


That cunt is calling us "the abortion party."

Shame HER mother didn't have one.


Gravatarflg got the memo!


finally. better late than never.


GravatarI don't feel like doing much of anything today. Again.
four legs good


I got quite a bit done today, so it feels good. Thank God. I've been in a funk for a couple of weeks, at least.

I'll probably go for an early supper soon.


GravatarHey, Fun Seekers


GravatarI'm a lumberjack and I'm okay...

My nextdoor neighbor is having a huge old oak tree taken down; it was about eight stories high before it died this summer. Watching the guys from the tree company taking it down in sections has been fascinating. They've now got it down to about three stories. Lots of oak firewood being burned on my street this winter!!


GravatarOOO! I just sold 2 Condi for prez beer steins an 2 Laura Bush for Prez shirts. I luv it when Repugs send me money!!!!


GravatarHey DWD!

Cold enough for you?


GravatarWell, the good news is that I've been able to resist buying my new camera so far.


GravatarI don't feel like doing much of anything today. Again.
four legs good


I haven't crawled out of bed till 11:00 for the last three days.


Gravatar That's a pretty stiff temblor - 5.7.

Must not say "cut", must not say "cut"...



D'OH!!!


Gravatar I don't feel like doing much of anything today. Again.

Yeah, me too. the siren song of the couch has kept me from the plans I had.


GravatarOOO! I just sold 2 Condi for prez beer steins an 2 Laura Bush for Prez shirts. I luv it when Repugs send me money!!!!

S(ophomore)Squirrel


You SO bad!


Gravatar Well, the good news is that I've been able to resist buying my new camera so far.

Hey, me too!


Of course, it won't be available for another month yet...


GravatarWoooooooHooooooooooo!!

Hi, Kent! Now that you're here, I think it's time for martinis, don't you?


Gravatar Lots of oak firewood being burned on my street this winter!!

It's neither cold enough for a fire here, nor do I have a fireplace.




GravatarHappy Holidays from Union Square!


GravatarLoved this!

Bill and Betty's Bird Flu Defense System: http://images.ucomics.com/comics...05/ nq051126.gif




GravatarOf course, it won't be available for another month yet...


What camera are you getting?


GravatarTalk about wankers....


GravatarI'd like to get the Canon 5D, but at $3200 I just can't justify it.


Gravatarbetter late than never.

Better Nate than lever.


GravatarI wasn't answering my own question, that was for Eli.


Gravatardave ~

That's a cool tree!


Gravatarcory:

That IS funny.


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Hi, Kent! Now that you're here, I think it's time for martinis, don't you?


Hiya Hecate!!

I'm gonna have to wait for awhile, there is a late BBall game that i want to take in.

But that shouldn't stop you, Salut!!


GravatarCoulter has gotten about all the mileage she's going to out of her "wingnut woman" schtick. Now she
has to keep coming up with more and more outrageous things to say, or people will lose interest. I doubt she believes most of the crap she spews any more than Rush does--if it sells hemorrhoid cream and Stairmasters, she'll say it.


GravatarWhat camera are you getting?

Nikon D200.

I hope. Depends on funds availability, and high-ISO performance (I read something somewhere where the number of CCD sensors was a concern for that).


GravatarVicki, a pretty nice day here except for the foot or so of snow that I (and me boys) just removed from the driveway. Nice to have one back from college and one from Florida. (What a bummer for him. We pick him up at the airport and hand him a shovel)


GravatarDWD ~

I let the shoveling go. With the rain and 50 degree temps the next few days, it'll all be melted.

We still need to rake!


GravatarI don't feel like doing much of anything today. Again.

Yeah, me too. the siren song of the couch has kept me from the plans I had.
UppityNegro™Embigulator


I haven't felt like doing anything worthwhile all week. I never even got out of my jammies yesterday.

I have braved the outdoors today though....


GravatarHecate Malificent

We've had 4 trees taken down in the last year from lightening strikes. 3 were huge. So sad to see those big pines die, but the wood peckers love it.
Insurance pays $250 a tree, no questions asked, which pretty much covers it.

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Gravatarfiredoglake has an interesting post about the Scanlon investigation:

Clearly, Santa has decided that I have been a very good girl this year. Thw WaPo is reporting that Tom Delay, Conrad Burns, and John Doolittle, among many others, are under increased scrutiny, along with members of the Administration.

The greed gets them in the end, but it takes so long.

popcorn?


Gravatar (What a bummer for him. We pick him up at the airport and hand him a shovel)



Poor kid.


GravatarVicki, I was not sure that all 12 inches would dissipate. Five or six would have remained unshoveled.


GravatarNikon D200.


Sweeeeeeeet Camera- I've used em. But don't own one...


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GravatarFIRST!!!
oh, well, maybe next time


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I have braved the outdoors today though....



Me too,

had to have donuts. Since then, slacking, slacking and more slacking.

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GravatarSweeeeeeeet Camera- I've used em. But don't own one...

You sure? They're not actually out yet. You know someone with a preview model?


GravatarDWD ~

I think you got a few more inches than we did. It was beautiful last night, but the driving was scary.

True confession, though: I, Vicki, Who Loves AL Gore, am a SHITTY driver. I have terrible depth perception.


GravatarYou know the problem with anti-abortion people is the black and white nature of their argument. If you are against the government telling an individual what they must do, you are a baby killer? WTF?

Let's just return fire:

Illicit killers
Executioners of children
Rich and could give a fuck
Racists
Sexists
Misogynists
assholes


GravatarNikon D200.

I hope. Depends on funds availability, and high-ISO performance (I read something somewhere where the number of CCD sensors was a concern for that).


Dude, amortize out the D70 a bit longer. I haven't even had mine for two years yet!

BTW, I'm working on a deal with NTodd's Pa to give him my current printer in exchange for his "investment" in a large format HP or Canon. More to come...


GravatarNikon D200.

I hope. Depends on funds availability, and high-ISO performance (I read something somewhere where the number of CCD sensors was a concern for that).


Dude, amortize out the D70 a bit longer. I haven't even had mine for two years yet!

BTW, I'm working on a deal with NTodd's Pa to give him my current printer in exchange for his "investment" in a large format HP or Canon. More to come...


Gravatar I think it's time for martinis, don't you?
Hecate Malificent


If you've been raking leaves all day, you are probably due.

I saw the Arthur movie a while back. I read a synopsis of it and the folks that made it were trying to do a "historical" take on Arthur and remove the mythological aspect of the story.
I love the myth, but I quite liked the movie.

I agree on Knightley's Guinnivere.

I also liked Lancelot's line about him visiting Arthur and his wife after they all got out of the Roman army and Arthur having the good fortune of having all his kids look like Lancelot.


GravatarIt's neither cold enough for a fire here, nor do I have a fireplace.



four legs good


I actually turned on the A/C, it was so damp and muggy in here. Slept out in the tent last night, now it's all wet.

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GravatarYou sure? They're not actually out yet. You know someone with a preview model?


A pro-photographer showed me. Used to be outta New York.

Don't ask me how he got it.
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GravatarTalk about wankers....
cory | Email | Homepage | 11.26.05 - 3:55 pm | #


i cum in peace? ha ha ha
love the posters, too.


GravatarSaturdayOffHICA, ever-body!
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GravatarEli, what camera are you using right now, pre-D200?


GravatarDude, amortize out the D70 a bit longer. I haven't even had mine for two years yet!

You're not the boss of me!

It's pretty much going to come down to when I feel like I have enough money saved up. Maybe a nice birthday present for myself or something. I definitely want the 18-200 VR zoom as soon as it's out, though.

BTW, I'm working on a deal with NTodd's Pa to give him my current printer in exchange for his "investment" in a large format HP or Canon. More to come...

Define "large format". Also, HPs are supposed to be the best for B&W prints, which is why I eventually went with the 8750.


GravatarI went from 22F last night, and having my scrotum gently spatula'd off the wrought iron chair outside my landlord's house, to 68F today, short sleeves and iced tea...

Gotta love Nashville in November.
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GravatarBTW, I'm working on a deal with NTodd's Pa to give him my current printer in exchange for his "investment" in a large format HP or Canon. More to come...



That must be one hell of a "Printer".

By the way, isn't that bastard the one who is spending your inheritance like it's going out of style?

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Gravatar Eli, what camera are you using right now, pre-D200?

D70.



Where ya been?


GravatarThat must be one hell of a "Printer".

By the way, isn't that bastard the one who is spending your inheritance like it's going out of style?


That's why he's trying to get an advance...


Gravatarsure there are sheets and already 51 comments, but what's the topic?

fuckit, i hate writing out my needless thoughts on the thread below.

can't cheney and bush just admit they are moral fuckwits and abdicate? turn the admininstration over to kerry and edwards, which are probably the accurate results anyway.


GravatarIf anyone wants to see some great entertainment turn on the Grambling-Southern game on NBC. Halftime is the battle of the bands


GravatarReddHedd thinks that Scalon's case will be "the straw that breaks the camel's back for a lot of law makers."

Scanlon flipping opens the door wide to the possibility of a lot of felony prosecutions, by providing the investigators a direct link and testimony on pre-legislation deals, bribes and other improper conduct.

Can't happen too soon.


GravatarBush to announce Iraq pull out plan within the week... click on homepage for details.


Gravatar'sup, JP?

I'd love a little 68 degree action. Here in NE MD, it's 42 and has been colder than a well digger's ass here for several days.


GravatarI've got a large format (13x infinity) edge to edge Epson Photo 1280. Not bad- get's pretty crisp images, color tuning can be a pain in the ass! And if the heads are not clean, banding occurs more often than I like.

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Gravatar
Gotta love Nashville in November.


Jeffraham, i hope the spatula was gently heated.
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GravatarI'd love a little 68 degree action. Here in NE MD, it's 42 and has been colder than a well digger's ass here for several days.
Billy B


75F. Just planting some asparagus, some chiles. Picking some Early Girl tomatoes for dinner.


GravatarEli, sounds nice.

I've already invested in Canon lenses, so I'll stick with that.


GravatarGeez, Vicki, you made me so cold I went and made some cinammon enhanced hot cider. Mmmm (Want some? Here.)


GravatarI saw the Arthur movie a while back. I read a synopsis of it and the folks that made it were trying to do a "historical" take on Arthur and remove the mythological aspect of the story.
I love the myth, but I quite liked the movie.


OH. You didn't mean my movie.

Sorry.


GravatarLet's just return fire:

Illicit killers
Executioners of children
Rich and could give a fuck
Racists
Sexists
Misogynists
assholes


I like "The Torture Party."


GravatarWell, the good news is that I've been able to resist buying my new camera so far.
four legs good


I'm not a camera geek, but I just traded in my two year old 2 mega pixal for a 5 mega pixal. The best thing, it has a lithium battery that stays charged for three hours. Man that rocks. Click my homepage to see the difference in sharpness. I love this camera.


GravatarWhy did the Dim cross the road?

- to surrender

What did the Dim do then?

- move to France

What did the Dim do while there?

- smoke crack at the UN


GravatarI've got a large format (13x infinity) edge to edge Epson Photo 1280. Not bad- get's pretty crisp images, color tuning can be a pain in the ass! And if the heads are not clean, banding occurs more often than I like.

I liked the R1800 (IIRC), similar size, but the prospect of losing the whole $500 printer to a clogged head was more than I could take.

I do have some quibbles with the 8750, but they're more to do with the print software for it, which is just awful.


GravatarMarines don't cut and run, dirty stinking rotten demo-maggots do.


GravatarYou're not the boss of me!

Hey, that's MY line!

Define "large format". Also, HPs are supposed to be the best for B&W prints, which is why I eventually went with the 8750.

Depends on which printer I can con the old man into. At least twice as large as the HP Photosmart series (I've got the 8400), but if I go with one of the Epsons (I accidentally typed Canon above), it might be larger and accept roll paper, not to mention be capable of giclee output.

isn't that bastard the one who is spending your inheritance like it's going out of style?

The same. And I've told him he'd better get me this fucking printer, or I'll not only put him in a bad home, I'll make him room with mom.

(Actually, NTodd's Pa proposed the deal. It's rather touching that he and NTodd's Pa's Wife are looking for ways to support me without being overly pushy.)


GravatarDims traffic in filth.


GravatarI have to buy 2 cameras this year for my publication so I'm thinking 2 D70s or maybe even 2 D50s, plus extra lenses. We have made it for 5 years with Nikon Coolpix models. May the goddess bless digital cameras, couldn't have made it without them.


Gravatar"OOO! I just sold 2 Condi for prez beer steins an 2 Laura Bush for Prez shirts. I luv it when Repugs send me money!!!!

S(ophomore)Squirrel"

I can't begin to describe the joy i get when i take money from goopers....


GravatarThis is worth repeating.

Total electoral vote of states where Mr. Bush approval rating is 46% or above
42

Total electoral vote of states where Mr. Bush approval rating is below 46%
496

Total needed to elect a president
270


GravatarDims are spittle men. Dims puke out spittle lies from there round puck holes.


GravatarCan't happen too soon.
Arabella


Justice plans on dragging it out. Said invetigation will take "years"
Aaa..Aaa..Assholes!...Gesundheit


GravatarI've already invested in Canon lenses, so I'll stick with that.

Yeah, I think once you make the Canon-vs-Nikon choice, you're pretty much locked into it, unless you've got money to burn.


Gravatar75F. Just planting some asparagus, some chiles. Picking some Early Girl tomatoes for dinner.

(sticks tongue out at GWPDA)


Gravatar"Fresh air!
four legs good"

Times square!


GravatarOkay, so it belongs down on a couple of threads, but would Anderson Cooper 360 get better ratings if they called it Anderson Cooper sits on it and spins?


GravatarThe biggest problem I've had with digital is burnt pixels. I had to return my Canon XL1-S for repairs the same day I got it. Burnt Pixels. Same with the digital camera I use (Nikon 5700) AND with my Mac laptop.

Pixels can really suck.

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GravatarWell, it's a new camera for me, from myself, for chistmas.

And a nice new long lens.


GravatarEli sez:

D70.

Get a real camera, ya mook.


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GravatarDim dum dems.


Gravatar"Yeah, I think once you make the Canon-vs-Nikon choice, you're pretty much locked into it, unless you've got money to burn.
Eli"

iirc, lenses from 35 mm cameras ain't compatable with digital, right? couldn't they design them so they were?


GravatarWhere's the crazy, left-wing equivalent of Coulter? Y'know, how come there's no incendiary, inflammatory below-the-belt Liberal on all the pundit shows?

I'd love just once for someone to get on one of these pundit shows and say, "Shut the fuck up, Coulter, you fucking Nazi cunt, before I come over there and kick you in the balls." She gets treated with kid gloves.


Gravatar Dims are spittle men. Dims puke out spittle lies from there round puck holes.

I'm not entirely sure what it means, but I find it entirely hysterical.


GravatarDepends on which printer I can con the old man into. At least twice as large as the HP Photosmart series (I've got the 8400), but if I go with one of the Epsons (I accidentally typed Canon above), it might be larger and accept roll paper, not to mention be capable of giclee output.

Epson might not be so bad for you, since you'll presumably be using it enough to keep the heads from drying out, but I know if I had one the heads would be dried and clogged *right now*.

Giclee?


GravatarLook! In The Sky! It's a Bird! It's a Plane No!!! it's dith the dimwit


GravatarSorry.
Arthur J. GWPDA




GravatarGWPDA, Next summer, when the cool breezes waft into my room off Lake Michigan and the summer sun is blazing: I promise to write everyday how nice it is here. Promise.


GravatarBeautiful quilt, QL.

Where did you trade your camera in?


GravatarYeah, I think once you make the Canon-vs-Nikon choice, you're pretty much locked into it, unless you've got money to burn.


It's okay. I'm happy with my choice- I spent a fair amount of time making it.

To be honest, the 5D is more camera than I need right now.


GravatarI liked the Arthur movie as well. It was fun to watch.


GravatarI've already invested in Canon lenses, so I'll stick with that.

Yeah, I think once you make the Canon-vs-Nikon choice, you're pretty much locked into it, unless you've got money to burn.


Totally. Which is why I can't wait until Soros sends me that first paycheck. Shit, I might even light that one on fire.


Gravatardiesel what on earth are burnt pixels? I have used and abused Macs and Nikons intensely and never heard the term!


Gravataras an old nikon guy, i hate to say it, but you shouda gone with the cannon. i can't afford this digital crap, though i've been researching. but since you are nikon guys. a great pro level camera, which takes nikon lenses, is the fuji fine pix S3. and it's half the price of the nikon pro level cameras. (2100-2500$)

i am currently debating with my self about the cannon 20D or the fine pix (which is significant, because of the lenses, and upgrading latter) i'd definitely go with the fuji if my nikon lenses were up to date.

also if you can afford it, as much as possible avoid zooms. they don't have the clarity of fixed lenses. some are better than others, but you already knew that.


Gravatar Marines don't cut and run, dirty stinking rotten demo-maggots do.
dith | 11.26.05 - 4:12 pm | #


yup. from the Texas Air National Guard.


Gravataror I'll not only put him in a bad home, I'll make him room with mom.

the last xmas mother was alive, she and dad ended up in the same hospital simultaneously...

on christmas eve, the nurses asked mother if she'd like to have dad moved into her room so they could be together...

she refused, loudly...

just sayin.
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GravatarBush and Arnold are the man-men who burn the democraps with the truth.


GravatarI got to the bakery too late for eclairs or pumpkin pie. How do chocolate walnut scones sound? And I broke down and bought a frozen Mrs. Smith's, so there will be pumpkin pie later.


GravatarI have to buy 2 cameras this year for my publication so I'm thinking 2 D70s or maybe even 2 D50s, plus extra lenses. We have made it for 5 years with Nikon Coolpix models. May the goddess bless digital cameras, couldn't have made it without them.

You *have* to buy 2 cameras a year? How terrible! I got the impression there wasn't a whole lot of difference between the 50s and 70s, just some feature/functionality stuff.


iirc, lenses from 35 mm cameras ain't compatable with digital, right? couldn't they design them so they were?

They are, but there's a multiplication factor because of the smaller sensor size. So if I get the 18-200 zoom lens, it's actually the equivalent of a 24-300 for a 35mm camera.


GravatarIf any of you wants to explain this to me, I'd appreciate it. I guess I don't understand how troop withdrawals work. If you don't have enough troops, what do you do? Don't we get to a point where we have to draft people? If you draft people it takes time to train them.

Gilliard disagrees with Atrios:
about troop withdrawal. Bush must have a plan to save his ass before the midterm elections. What is it?


Gravatarlooks like one troll opted for drinking the sterno for Thanksgiving instead of heating the spam, tragic.


GravatarWhy are Dims such worthless maggots?


Gravatariirc, lenses from 35 mm cameras ain't compatable with digital, right? couldn't they design them so they were?

Depends on the maker. The lenses from my very old hand-me-down AE-1 aren't, but my other film camera is an EOS canon, so all of my EOS and EF lenses work on both it AND the digital.

Which is most excellent.


Gravatardiesel what on earth are burnt pixels? I have used and abused Macs and Nikons intensely and never heard the term!



One of the pixels on the screen, or the final image is purple, or white. The pixel just stops working.


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Gravatarwhew. synthetic division. rational polynomial roots. quadratic equations.

amazingly, i was able to relearn it and actually help her. whether she'll remember it by the time of the chapter test, i can't say.


GravatarThe same. And I've told him he'd better get me this fucking printer, or I'll not only put him in a bad home, I'll make him room with mom.

Y'know, NTodd's Pa could take the whole inheritance, invest it in a Continuing Care Retirment Facility and take the whole question of 'the home' out of your hands. Not to mention the inheritance.

Just sayin.....


Gravatar75F. Just planting some asparagus, some chiles. Picking some Early Girl tomatoes for dinner.

(sticks tongue out at GWPDA)
Billy B


It needed to be said.
It is untowardly beautiful here at the moment, honest. Terracotta walls, brilliant blue sky, fat white clouds, Chinese pistache turning flame red, oranges on the tree.... I've got me a Lisbon lemon picked out for planting next month - already 14', bearing heavily, en route to 25' within four or five more years.... Wind's come up tho, will probably drop the temperature down to a nice fireinthefireplace level by tonight.


GravatarEpson might not be so bad for you, since you'll presumably be using it enough to keep the heads from drying out, but I know if I had one the heads would be dried and clogged *right now*.

I had good luck with the Epson I used before the Photosmart. I'm actually impressed with both vendors--my friend flameape is more keen to go Epson, but that's mostly because he's worked with them more than the HPs.

Giclee?

Expensive archival shit. I'm thinking of not only charging a premium for our own products in that format, but also offering services to visual artists who can't afford to invest in their own high-end printer. There's a lot of local demand for sure, and from my recon, national as well.


GravatarI become weary of Ann Coulter. I am tired of her. The words "Ann Coulter" make me fall asl zzzzz zzz


Gravatar"They are, but there's a multiplication factor because of the smaller sensor size. So if I get the 18-200 zoom lens, it's actually the equivalent of a 24-300 for a 35mm camera.
Eli"

thanks...i remembed asking that in a cmarea store, figuring hey i got some decent lenses, if i upgraded i got just buy a body...but was told otherwise...seemed like a plot to sell lenses...


GravatarMusic discussion and political interpretation. go here.

http://majikthise.typepad.com/ ma...random_1_1.html


Gravatariirc, lenses from 35 mm cameras ain't compatable with digital, right? couldn't they design them so they were?
jdw

There are some out now that are compatible with 35mm lenses.
Not cheap.
(Cannon?)

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Gravatari have an old ricoh 5000. it was hot stuff for a consumer camera when i bought it.

i'll shut up now. i'm obviously out of my depth (only 2.5megapixel).


GravatarTruth, Lies, and Flawed Intelligence
http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.c...ily.com/? p=1246


Gravatari have an old ricoh 5000. it was hot stuff for a consumer camera when i bought it.

i'll shut up now. i'm obviously out of my depth (only 2.5megapixel).


Gravatar"Bush must have a plan to save his ass before the midterm elections. What is it?"

Terrorist attack in NYC.
Tactical nuclear weapons used in Syria and Iran.
Resign.
Move to the Hague.


Gravatar Marines don't cut and run, dirty stinking rotten demo-maggots do.

Oh yes, I remember you. And here's my same response:

Murtha's a Marine. Ergo, his plan isn't cutting and running.

QED


GravatarSo, who let the contents of the sewer truck (dith)in here?

Any, why in the fuck is it talking about my Marine Corps? Why are you not pounding dith's fucking skull in with a sledgehammer for talking about my Marine Corps in my absense like that?

Why, WHY?? DAMMIT!!!!!!


GravatarContinuing Care Retirment Facility....

Hmmmmm. Are there any tax benefits to starting one of those at, oh, say, my house? There'd be me and Arthur....


GravatarThe fun thing about Scanlon. He's been cooperating since July. Heehee. I bet there are two dozen or so law makers, at this very minute, trying to reconstruct every conversation, email, letter, etc. they exchanged with Abramoff and/or Scanlon.

And doesn't Abramoff look kinda whiney?


Gravataralso if you can afford it, as much as possible avoid zooms. they don't have the clarity of fixed lenses. some are better than others, but you already knew that.

True, and zoom lenses are slower.


But there are times when you need the flexibility because there just isn't time to change your lens that quickly.


Gravatarith-day is unk-dray

I think


Gravatar Why are you not pounding dith's fucking skull in with a sledgehammer for talking about my Marine Corps in my absense like that?


Because I do not speak to time wasting trolls.


Gravatar iirc, lenses from 35 mm cameras ain't compatable with digital, right? couldn't they design them so they were?
jdw


Not really true. The Nikon and Canon digitals will work with legacy lenses. The old ones don't have the "CPU features", but will fit the standard SLR body of both the analog and digital models.


Gravataras an old nikon guy, i hate to say it, but you shouda gone with the cannon.




I've got a few older cameras which I still LOVE:

Minolta XE-7
Minolta SRT-101

Easy to use, fully manual. LOVE EM.

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GravatarIt needed to be said.

I've got me a Lisbon lemon picked out for planting next month - already 14'


Yes, it did. I am just funnin'. We have friends that live in Corpus Christi that called the other night from an oyster bar and were in shorts and flip-flops. It was 28 degrees here.

They too have a lemon tree.


Gravatarthanks...i remembed asking that in a cmarea store, figuring hey i got some decent lenses, if i upgraded i got just buy a body...but was told otherwise...seemed like a plot to sell lenses...

It basically depends on the age and make of the camera and the lenses. Might want to do some research on the particulars. Generally speaking, they at least have to be for the same type of camera, as, say, Nikon & Canon have different sized lenses.


Gravatar The old ones don't have the "CPU features", but will fit the standard SLR body of both the analog and digital models.


The older lenses don't support TTL.


Gravatar(Actually, NTodd's Pa proposed the deal. It's rather touching that he and NTodd's Pa's Wife are looking for ways to support me without being overly pushy.)
NTodd |


Well, that is the nicest thing I have read all day.


GravatarY'know, NTodd's Pa could take the whole inheritance, invest it in a Continuing Care Retirment Facility and take the whole question of 'the home' out of your hands. Not to mention the inheritance.

I know where they hide the family silver. And the combination to the door lock. Not to mention the fact that NTodd's Pa's Ma doesn't run very fast with her cane, so I think I'll be able to catch them (unless NTodd's Pa uses the "outrun a bear" principle).


GravatarBush must have a plan to save his ass before the midterm elections. What is it? - Arabella
Deckchair feng shui.


GravatarShoot, crazy people are back...


GravatarFucking hetero digital camera bacteria.

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Aw, well, I might as well get used to the future.


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GravatarDims are spittle men. Dims puke out spittle lies from there round puck holes.

Hard to disagree with such an eloquent argument.

Is this the guy who devised the Time Cube?


GravatarDims gag out choke lies from there worhtless puke holes.

Move to France hippie scum!


GravatarGently heated spatulas... ah, I knew we forgot something.
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GravatarDims are subhuman filth traffickers.


Gravatar(Actually, NTodd's Pa proposed the deal. It's rather touching that he and NTodd's Pa's Wife are looking for ways to support me without being overly pushy.)
NTodd |



That is nice. My father swore he wasn't leaving us a penny.

And he didn't.


GravatarMarines don't cut and run, dirty stinking rotten demo-maggots do.
dith- 4:12 pm


wonder why d'it'h don't deliver those sentiments in person to Col. Murtha?

probably a dirty, stinking, rotten demo-maggot...there likely ARE a couple of them, somewhere...

though ya gotta admit the description does seem better to fit the chickenshit-chickenhawk contingent of the GOPhascist outfit...


GravatarSo, if I was to say I have a Canon sure shot I got on QVC for about a hundred bucks, would that be like showing up to a Harley Davidson gathering riding a moped?


Gravatar "Bush must have a plan to save his ass before the midterm elections. What is it?"


armeggedon followed by the rapture.

honest to god, that's his plan.


Gravatarshawk-

Terrorist attack in NYC.
Tactical nuclear weapons used in Syria and Iran.
Resign.
Move to the Hague


I believe that item 1 and item 2 are Bush's agenda. What I can't understand is how the neocons are allowing bush to ruin their plan for a 1000 reich. I think that they will find a face-saving way for Bush to resign. But when?

bush - retire


GravatarYes, it did. I am just funnin'. We have friends that live in Corpus Christi that called the other night from an oyster bar and were in shorts and flip-flops. It was 28 degrees here.


It was cool enough this morning for me to put on a sweater to go over to the nursery. By the time I'd finished with them I realised that everybody else around were wearing shorts and t-shirts - altho some people had these Sandy Claws hats to signify solidarity with the rest of the country's time...


GravatarWhere's the crazy, left-wing equivalent of Coulter? Y'know, how come there's no incendiary, inflammatory below-the-belt Liberal on all the pundit shows?

I'd love just once for someone to get on one of these pundit shows and say, "Shut the fuck up, Coulter, you fucking Nazi cunt, before I come over there and kick you in the balls." She gets treated with kid gloves.

JK47

flory colvin? but i don't see the above scenario play'n out. look, ann's just batshit crazy, i remember seeing her on geraldo oh so many years ago. she was not always so crazy. i think Terry called it. she methed up. and it's an act, much like rush. i predict after the fiery wreck of the bush admin. her kind will be the way of the past. god, i hope i'm right.


GravatarThe older lenses don't support TTL.

Yeah, that's what I mean: none of the fancy features will work with the old lenses, but hey, you've got a sunk investment, at least you can still use 'em!

Well, that is the nicest thing I have read all day.

They're good peeps, despite all the hell I've given them for 36 years.


Gravatar" Generally speaking, they at least have to be for the same type of camera, as, say, Nikon & Canon have different sized lenses."

thanks...I have no idea about this stuff...my 35 mm is a Minolta X-GM the old lady bought me, and the macro lens I use a lot is a minolta 50mm 1:35

i really don't have a reason or $ to upgrade from my 4 mpix coolpix, but that hasn't stopped me from buying shit in the past....


Gravatar"They are, but there's a multiplication factor because of the smaller sensor size. So if I get the 18-200 zoom lens, it's actually the equivalent of a 24-300 for a 35mm camera.
Eli"


now i know how people feel when i go one about linux utilities.


GravatarOOOOH, the part where a Vegas hotel gets blown up is up (in the movie Mars Attacks on Fox)

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GravatarHmmmmm. Are there any tax benefits to starting one of those at, oh, say, my house? There'd be me and Arthur....
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar


Well you could always try incorporating as a not-for-profit and see what happens.


GravatarBears repeating.

All of our trolls remind me of little kids who are being punished.

They're powerless to change the situation, but they'll run in and yell stuff at their parents like "I hate you" and "You're so mean."

They may even throw tantrums.

These actions don't change a damn thing, but it makes them feel better (somehow).


Gravatar Fucking hetero digital camera bacteria.

Why, I oughta modernoize ya!


Gravataryep


Gravatar Bush and Arnold are the man-men who burn the democraps with the truth.



Brevity is the soul of wit.

I like the cut of this one's gib.
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GravatarWhat to make of a workplace that hands out demerits for being one minute late, and yet consistently manages to short one's paycheck by 3-10 hrs. each and every week, without fail...
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Gravatar"(Actually, NTodd's Pa proposed the deal. It's rather touching that he and NTodd's Pa's Wife are looking for ways to support me without being overly pushy.)
NTodd |"

could i convince your parents to adopt me?


GravatarI'll move to France when you start eating the peanuts out of my shit.

Fascist asshole.


GravatarDims are powerless to stop the man-men.


Gravatarql - And doesn't Abramoff look kinda whiney?

It's great, isn't it?

Fabulous quilt. I can see why you got the new camera.

bush = fwx drf


Gravatar"Where's the crazy, left-wing equivalent of Coulter?"

If I had a vote, it would be for William S. Burroughs or Hunter S. Thompson.
But they're dead.


GravatarWhat I can't understand is how the neocons are allowing bush to ruin their plan for a 1000 reich. I think that they will find a face-saving way for Bush to resign. But when?

bush - retire
Arabella


Ya think Chimpy's own party would "Wellstone" him?


GravatarWell you could always try incorporating as a not-for-profit and see what happens.
flory, keeper of the VIP keys


i've been not for profit for years.

didn't plan it that way.....


GravatarGWPDA, Next summer, when the cool breezes waft into my room off Lake Michigan and the summer sun is blazing: I promise to write everyday how nice it is here. Promise.
DWD - Ego Driven


So, I'm not the only one thinks GWPDA is a weather troll. And did I mention standing on the train platform yesterday when it was 22 degrees, and the windchill made it feel like 5?

Why am I still debating Portland, OR and Philly?


Gravatarflip-flops


What is it with Texans and flip-flops?

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GravatarWhat to make of a workplace that hands out demerits for being one minute late, and yet consistently manages to short one's paycheck by 3-10 hrs. each and every week, without fail...


That's fucked up.


GravatarSo, if I was to say I have a Canon sure shot I got on QVC for about a hundred bucks, would that be like showing up to a Harley Davidson gathering riding a moped?

Much like with music and movies, one should not be judged by one's camera. Does it do what you want? Then it's perfect.

Really, I get so sick of the swinging dick syndrome, whether it's photog or war or anything.


Gravatarman-men?

Now, the trolls are really talking retarded.


GravatarYou might be a demo-maggot if you would spit on the baby Jesus if you could.


GravatarBush and Arnold are the man-men who burn the democraps with the truth.

Guckert is the man-man who burns Bush's rectum with 8 1/2" cut.


GravatarWhy, I oughta modernoize ya!

Would it involve shirtless oil wrestling? 'Cuz I'm busy that day.

Anyway, All decent Nikon cameras use FD lenses. Don't know about Canons.


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GravatarDims make my computer's memory bigger.

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Gravatarhahaha ...that's what I got a Cannon sure-shot ...it's about 20 years old if not more


GravatarMove to France hippie scum!
dith


And YOU are a poopy head.


Gravatar Dims gag out choke lies from there worhtless puke holes.

Move to France hippie scum!
dith


15 years old, tops.


GravatarDims are spittle men. Dims puke out spittle lies from there round puck holes.

it's got a certain, remote similarity with some of Gregory Corso's drug-crazed, booze-haunted looniness...without the underlying intelligence...

or eliot with tourette's on meth???


GravatarI know where they hide the family silver.

Can be moved to a safe deposit box.

And the combination to the door lock.

Which can be changed.

Not to mention the fact that NTodd's Pa's Ma doesn't run very fast with her cane, so I think I'll be able to catch them (unless NTodd's Pa uses the "outrun a bear" principle).

Motorized wheelchair...turbocharged.


Gravatari believe i can speak for all of us when i say that dith's well-reasoned and inarguable points have converted me. i now love gw bush and the entire republican regime.

his work here is done, now he can go somewhere else and make more converts.


Gravatari>Well you could always try incorporating as a not-for-profit and see what happens.
flory

But I AM! In the State of AZ, fully incorporated....

Oh boy - this is going to be fun! (NB: remember to pay $10 annual incorporation fee.)


GravatarYou might be a demo-maggot if you would spit on the baby Jesus if you could.

I would spit on baby Jesus. And he would just turn the other cheek! Ha! I'd spit on that one too.


GravatarYou might be a demo-maggot if you would spit on the baby Jesus if you could.


Fuck em! He was a commie anyway!

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GravatarGuckert is the man-man who burns Bush's rectum with 8 1/2" cut.
JK47



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You might be a demo-maggot if you would spit on the baby Jesus if you could.
dith


Big Baby Jesus is dead.


Gravatar Dims make my computer's memory bigger.

Sum dims are for breakfast.


GravatarWhere did you trade your camera in?
flory,


My daughter. She mentioned that her last camera was stolen, and that she would love to have mine. It was all the incentive I needed.

I use Mozilla as my main browser. But lately haloscum seems to eat every other post, or I can't access Eschaton at all.


Gravatarcould i convince your parents to adopt me?

You'll have to get in line. They've already adopted 657 "grandkids" and one of my coworkers.

You might be a demo-maggot if you would spit on the baby Jesus if you could.

I wouldn't spit on baby Jesus. I might cook him on a spit, though.

And no, I'm not a Democrat. Or a dirty, evil jewy Jew.


GravatarDims are spittle men. Dims puke out spittle lies from there round puck holes.

it's got a certain, remote similarity with some of Gregory Corso's drug-crazed, booze-haunted looniness...without the underlying intelligence...

or eliot with tourette's on meth???
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar(aka


It's Trannie Annie - doing meth.


GravatarGWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar,

Any notions on a good resting place for my Grandfather's WWI memorabilia? This is aways off yet, but my family has various and sundry military stuff that goes back into the post-Civil War era. I don't see anyone in my generation wanting to hang on to it, and I'm dead certain the sentiments the same for the next generation of prospective heirs.


Gravatarone should not be judged by one's camera.

[blank look]

Okay, okay, I give up.


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Gravatardith is reaching out to us. He's listening and learning and understanding and all that shit. How can we resist his logic?


GravatarFor your average photographer, a 3 megapixel digital will record terrific images.


GravatarDims are powerless to stop the man-men.
dith


I wonder if dith would get better results from Freud or Skinner.


Gravatar"You might be a demo-maggot if you would spit on the baby Jesus if you could.
dith"

I like the cut of this guy's gibberish.

Breathe deeply dith.
Complete English sentences.
Study Floyd Alvis Cooper.

Cooper!
Now, there's a troll!


GravatarMotorized wheelchair...turbocharged.

Heh, we were just talking about that yesterday. Fucking Medicare has decided that she doesn't qualify for an electric wheelchair because she's "mobile".


GravatarWhat to make of a workplace that hands out demerits for being one minute late, and yet consistently manages to short one's paycheck by 3-10 hrs. each and every week, without fail...

wal-mart?

a law suit?

labor action?

all the above...

i hate fuckers who'll stiff ya for a nickel...


Gravatarone should not be judged by one's camera.

No, one should be judged by the pictures one takes.


GravatarMove to France subhuman demo-maggots with your UN trannys and you're crack festooned dreams.


GravatarI'll move to France when you start eating the peanuts out of my shit.

Fascist asshole.
Barndog


Don't you just love how these trolls think they have power to make us do anything?


GravatarBig Baby Jesus is dead.

Now, I would never, ever spit on Big Baby Jesus, AKA Dirt McGirt, AKA Ol' Dirty Bastard. That would just be disrespectful.


Gravatar
So, I'm not the only one thinks GWPDA is a weather troll.


I'm just trying to share. You guys show no sympathy at all for us when it's August and then you whine like the little dickensians you are this time of year and think I'm sposed to be understanding and stuff. I WAS BORN IN CALGARY DAMMIT! I KNOW WHAT COLD IS.

Phoenix is lots nicer.


GravatarWhat to make of a workplace that hands out demerits for being one minute late, and yet consistently manages to short one's paycheck by 3-10 hrs. each and every week, without fail...
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Jeffraham Prestonian


Cheap ass corporate pigs?


Gravatarone should not be judged by one's camera.

[blank look]

Okay, okay, I give up.


Fucking Helgaroid photogs. The most smug of all...


GravatarPlease do not ruin the holidays by talking to the fucking trolls.


thank you.


GravatarCoulter is one of the ‘storm troopers ‘ of the right.

She’s regarded as expendable by the machine. Her job is to push the shit as far as possible.

If she goes too far, the machine will say..."she is not a Republican, she is a free agent"


GravatarCoulter is one of the ‘storm troopers ‘ of the right.

She’s regarded as expendable by the machine. Her job is to push the shit as far as possible.

If she goes too far, the machine will say..."she is not a Republican, she is a free agent"


Gravatarcould i convince your parents to adopt me?
jdw


NTodd share the inheritance?

Hee.


GravatarDims puke out spittle lies from there round puck holes.

It's canadian! "Puck hole" is hockey-speak for mouth....


GravatarI have to buy 2 cameras this year for my publication so I'm thinking 2 D70s or maybe even 2 D50s, plus extra lenses. We have made it for 5 years with Nikon Coolpix models. May the goddess bless digital cameras, couldn't have made it without them.

and this is why digital is evil. in the old days you'd have had to hire someone who actually knew how to operate a camera, process film, etc...

but i guess it's relative, now all the old guys are try'n to catch up to the computer geeks.

the best artists don't know fuck about technology. but technology covers for their ass any way.

fuckit, i'm goin' alternative and making glass plates.


GravatarPhoenix is lots nicer.


I couldn't take your summers.


I can't even take ours.


GravatarDim dum Dems.


Gravatarone should not be judged by one's camera.

No, one should be judged by the pictures one takes.


The camera's not judged, but how much it loves, but how much it's loved by others?

I'll move to France when you start eating the peanuts out of my shit.

Fascist asshole.


It never is a good idea to piss off a Marine, dith. Just a word of advice, unless you want Barndog to cram some SOS down your gaping maw.


GravatarMove to France subhuman demo-maggots with your UN trannys and you're crack festooned dreams.



Bravo....actually, what the hell does that mean?

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GravatarGood afternoon, peeps! What's the good word?


Gravatarfour legs good: That's fucked up.

Yes, it is. It's the grunts' responsibility (during 12 hrs. of non-stop calls) to verify the accuracy of the "timecard" app (keyed off the login time on the phone), while having no ability to edit the app's numbers, etc., and to send an e-mail to the Spherion idiots to let them know about innaccuracies -- which I have somehow managed to do, each time (often, by staying off-the-clock in order to verify and do the e-mailing).

My manager said he didn't ever want to hear a complaint without a solution. Our entire team got dinged a couple of weeks ago because of call auditing -- we apparently weren't reading the new service script... which we never received. I told the manager, look -- the supposedly integrated software we use doesn't contain this language -- why is that? I mean, the whole fuckin' thing is done in Micro$oft's .NET framework, and the text of the scripts is simple HTML or XML (which I can do in my sleep). I offered to help the developers get it implemented, and the manager says, "no way -- it takes an act of Congress." I told him that I was sending him an e-mail, outlining the complaint and solution, regardless.

I figure I needn't be the only one expected to do the job right.
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GravatarDid anybody else read the article in harpers' this month about the thomas gospel?

jesus without miracles...

really, really, really good...

don't miss it...it won't be on the net yet, i doubt...but it's worth the price of the mag...and lapham i again right on target...
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GravatarReal Americans don't cough up froth lies like spittle men. Dims are spittle men.


GravatarSTOP TALKING TO THE IDIOT.



Please.


GravatarNTodd share the inheritance?

Hee.


Why do you think I killed my twin in the womb?


GravatarLive video & audio from an African waterhole!

http://play.rbn.com/ngm/ngm/live/live.rm

I just spent 30 min utes watching elephants and gazelle drinking and feeding.


GravatarHeh, we were just talking about that yesterday. Fucking Medicare has decided that she doesn't qualify for an electric wheelchair because she's "mobile".

Well, you could fix that.


Gravatar"NTodd share the inheritance?

Hee.
flory, keeper of the VIP keys"

how about you, Flory?


GravatarPlease do not ruin the holidays by talking to the fucking trolls.

Today's troll is highly entertaining. In fact, I don't think he's even worthy of earning the epithet "troll." He's more like a mascot. "Dith, the Mad Dog 20/20-addled Teenage Fascist."


Gravatar Real Americans don't cough up froth lies like spittle men. Dims are spittle men.

I swallowed a fly once. Coughed that fucker up, but good.


GravatarI just spent 30 minutes watching elephants and gazelle drinking and feeding.



Gazelles eating elephants!

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GravatarSo, if I was to say I have a Canon sure shot I got on QVC for about a hundred bucks, would that be like showing up to a Harley Davidson gathering riding a moped?
chris/tx


You'd be in good company. Here I was bragging bout my little ole power shot.


GravatarBut I AM! In the State of AZ, fully incorporated....

Oh boy - this is going to be fun! (NB: remember to pay $10 annual incorporation fee.)
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar


You might have to revise the articles of incorporation...they prolly say things like 'educational and research purposes' and nothing about healthcare.
You should look into that.


Gravatarbo - It really depends on where you are. If your people have been in much the same place for a great length of time, then your best local donation group is going to be whoever the Historical Society is - assuming it's legit and functional. After that, you should take a look around at City respositories - some concentrate on local history quite heavily - and at state level archives. For example, a dear friend of mine who was old Arizona was able to donate her son's groundbreaking photography to the UofA - on the basis of his excellence and on the family location. State historical societies are very good at accepting material and taking good care of it, despite being under more or less constant financial duress. Whichever you choose tho, you should make sure that the matter is entirely businesslike. Get things appraised - you'll be able to find an independent appraiser thru your local reference librarian. Make the proper legal arrangements.


Gravatar I told the manager, look -- the supposedly integrated software we use doesn't contain this language -- why is that? I mean, the whole fuckin' thing is done in Micro$oft's .NET framework, and the text of the scripts is simple HTML or XML (which I can do in my sleep).


I think you need to stay at that job long enough to clean up your resume, then move on.

Sounds like a sweat shop to me. If I were the boss I'd be screaming bloody murder that my employees were being fucked.


GravatarFucking Helgaroid photogs

A-HEM. Holgaroid.

And I'm not smug; just arrogant.

So there.


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GravatarFucking Helgaroid photogs

A-HEM. Holgaroid.

And I'm not smug; just arrogant.

So there.


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GravatarDith:
Get with the program!
It's:
Dim de dum Dems.

Amateurs.
Where did all the craft go?
Where's the pride?
These squirts couldn't shit on a thread with major metropolitan sewage treatment plant connected directly to their keyboard.


Gravatarthe best artists don't know fuck about technology. but technology covers for their ass any way.

fuckit, i'm goin' alternative and making glass plates.
charley | Email | Homepage | 11.26.05 - 4:38 pm | #
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my experience is different. the best artists i have met have mastered the technology used in their art. whether that is paint, or film, or music or ceramics, or whatever.


GravatarCanon sure shot I got on QVC for about a hundred bucks, would that be like showing up to a Harley Davidson gathering riding a moped?

He laughs insanely while casually whipping out his Kodak Instamatic...WITH Flashbar, maggots!


Gravatarthey prolly say things like 'educational and research purposes' and nothing about healthcare.

But that's what I'm ALL about. I am research! That's what my health depends on! See what I just told bo? How much more not-for-profit can I get?


GravatarHeh, we were just talking about that yesterday. Fucking Medicare has decided that she doesn't qualify for an electric wheelchair because she's "mobile".

Well, you could fix that.


We Quakers don't believe in Hobbling.


GravatarOutsourced to Bangelore, I warned you. But I hate to insult the good people of Bangelore.


GravatarToday's troll is highly entertaining.

i must disagree. it is tedious ad boring. just random syllables spewn from a cesspool pump. nothing clever, nothing infuriating, nothing at all.


GravatarOkay, if you guys want to play with the vomit covered idiot, I'm going to go make an omelet.


GravatarDims hearts shrivel into dark depths where filthy elephant seals gorge. Dims traffic in the filth of a godless world.

Move to France with the rest of the scum.


GravatarJeffraham,
Start logging this bullcrap. If you have semisentient coworkers, have them do the same. This has got the makings of a law suit.


Gravatar"fuckit, i'm goin' alternative and making glass plates.
charley"

i met a guy a few years ago that makes these huge format pics, and he told me he used this ancient-style view camera...mahagany frame, leather(i think) bellows, sheet over the head-type deal...he told me there are still a few people out there making them in little one-man businesses, which made me feel real good as i make outdated technology for a living...it's nice to know people like that are out there, imo...


GravatarHolga Enlargers $99!!!!!

Wow, I might need me a new enlarger! nice.

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GravatarHe laughs insanely while casually whipping out his Kodak Instamatic...WITH Flashbar, maggots!



But do you remember flashcubes?


GravatarWho is the troll of the day? Just so I can avoid stepping in it.


Gravatar"He laughs insanely while casually whipping out his Kodak Instamatic...WITH Flashbar, maggots!
cory"

ha! i got my brownie in the attic somewhere!


GravatarI WAS BORN IN CALGARY DAMMIT! I KNOW WHAT COLD IS.

Phoenix is lots nicer.


i've been to both on photo expeditions. talk about contrast.

i never believed you could fry an egg on a sidewalk, till i went to phoenix.

but calgary had MOOSES! in the street!


GravatarA-HEM. Holgaroid.

And I'm not smug; just arrogant.

So there.


Man, I have GOT to watch my Vowel Movements. Sorry, man, you know I live you.


Gravatarthe best artists i have met have mastered the technology used in their art.

John Lennon knew nothing at all about recording technology. During the Beatles' middle years, 1966-67, they got into recording stuff through direct injection-- taking the guitar plug and plugging it straight into the board without using a microphone to mic the amp. Lennon asked George Martin if his voice could be recorded using direct injection. George Martin replies, "Yes, but it would involve getting a jack plug installed in your neck!"

So there are exceptions to every rule.


Gravatardith is the troll of the day


GravatarBut do you remember flashcubes?

I do. Not sure if I ever used 'em, tho.

Never much cared for flash.


Gravatarflashcubes nothing. i have a brownie, and i don't mean a fema fuckup.


GravatarDemo-maggots cut and run like panty hose.


GravatarHeh, we were just talking about that yesterday. Fucking Medicare has decided that she doesn't qualify for an electric wheelchair because she's "mobile".
NTodd


We better all get used to decisions like that. If there's one thing that'll happen for sure when we finally have national health insurance, its that a lot of end-of-life care we've taken for granted will not be available...or will only be available if you can pay for it. Healthcare is already about 17% of GDP...and that's with 15% of the population uninsured. It's gonna cost a lot of money to get them insured. Rationing will happen.


GravatarDims traffic in the filth of a godless world.


Mmmmmm, godless world.


GravatarNever much cared for flash.



ON the camera- but grab yerself a hand held flash!


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Gravatar dith is the troll of the day
Arabella | Email | 11.26.05 - 4:46 pm | #


that's just sad. someone should exercise better quality control.


GravatarPhoenix is lots nicer.


I couldn't take your summers.


I can't even take ours.
four legs good


Swimming pool! Floating, drifting.... Lovely.

Six More Months! Tops!


Gravatarbut calgary had MOOSES! in the street!

Don't you mean Meese?
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GravatarI do. Not sure if I ever used 'em, tho.

Never much cared for flash.


Me neither, I just remember those from a camera my mom had when I was a kid.


I prefer to shoot with available light.


Gravatardith. Fred Eper, at least the one who was here yesterday, is Ted. By the way. Ted namesteals other trolls though, so it's hard to tell.


GravatarAtrios is a torpid place, stuck in the heat and stench of demo-maggot spew.


Gravatar Okay, if you guys want to play with the vomit covered idiot, I'm going to go make an omelet.

Make me one, too, dear.

But do you remember flashcubes?

Oh yeah, used to get them by the box. I felt like such the photog with my Instamatic, even though it was sissier than my Diana.


GravatarCharley, Charley, digital meant I could live through a start-up of a local magazine, stay alive through the perilous first five years, and then HIRE a photographer! I've created a place for graphics pros, writers, photographers from scratch. I'd much rather be in a consortium of people who are great at what they do than to dog it myself.


GravatarGWPDA,
Thankee. The stuff tends to be overseas related. One of the things that relates to local history is a post Spanish-American WAR note written by the CO of the Presidio authorizing passage for my Great Grandmother and children on a military transport bound for the Philippines.


GravatarON the camera- but grab yerself a hand held flash!

The on-the-camera-ness isn't really the problem. Actually, I kinda like the convenience of having a camera with a built-in flash. But I still prefer natural light, and do about 99% of my shooting outdoors.


Gravatarfuckit, i'm goin' alternative and making glass plates.
charley | Email | Homepage | 11.26.05 - 4:38 pm
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it's nice to know people like that are out there, imo...
jdw | Email | 11.26.05 - 4:44 pm


there was a dude on the set of Into The West shooting set-pieces with a glass-plate negative. he shot the golden spike reproduction (i'm the last guy on the top of the UP loco, right by the cab)

just sayin.


GravatarHe laughs insanely while casually whipping out his Kodak Instamatic...WITH Flashbar, maggots!

Oh man, I wish I still had my Instamatic (110 film-size!). Really!

I love old cameras. Getting film for them can be a chore, though.


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GravatarDon't you mean Meese?
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UppityNegro™Embigulator |


Edwin?


GravatarOh yeah, used to get them by the box. I felt like such the photog with my Instamatic, even though it was sissier than my Diana.


I remember how they smelled after they fired.

Strange, the stuff you remember from your childhood.


GravatarBush will not be in office much longer. He'll resign. I just can't think when. As soon as Cheney steps down because of ill health, you'll know that Bush is on the way out.

However it all happens, it will surprise us.


Gravatar Dims hearts shrivel into dark depths where filthy elephant seals gorge. Dims traffic in the filth of a godless world.

Hate to say it, but there is a certain Lovecraft cum haiku poetry to this one.....


GravatarDay 14 bitches.


Gravatar"fuckit, i'm goin' alternative and making glass plates.
charley"

i met a guy a few years ago that makes these huge format pics, and he told me he used this ancient-style view camera...mahagany frame, leather(i think) bellows, sheet over the head-type deal...he told me there are still a few people out there making them in little one-man businesses, which made me feel real good as i make outdated technology for a living...it's nice to know people like that are out there, imo...
jdw | Email | 11.26.05 - 4:44 pm | #
*******************

you can get a view camera kit, and build one yourself. i don't have a link. just google "view camera kit". i know they are out there.


GravatarDid anybody else read the article in harpers' this month about the thomas gospel?
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar



Not that particular one. Elaine Pagels' "Beyond Belief" is pretty good. It compares the Gospel of Thomas with the Gospel of John (and the other three as well), and reading it one ponders how different Christianity could have been.


Gravatardon't miss it...it won't be on the net yet, i doubt...but it's worth the price of the mag...and lapham i again right on target...
/
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar(aka


Following Woody's advice I went ahead and took out the subscription. Excellent value for 12.99/year. there is always something worth reading. And it almost never shows up on the net.


GravatarWhy do you think I killed my twin in the womb?
NTodd


Eeewww.


GravatarI prefer to shoot with available light.


I shot many many weddings, video and pictures. The flash is mandatory. But there are good tricks you can use to stop the flattening that happens with an on-camera flash. Redirecting flash with white cover stock paper for instance.

But handheld flashes rule. It's a whole extra dimension to artist expression.

Ok enough hoidy toidy artsy fartsy talk.

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Gravataryou can get a view camera kit, and build one yourself. i don't have a link. just google "view camera kit". i know they are out there.

Just as long as I don't have to grind my own lenses...


GravatarAtrios is a torpid place, stuck in the heat and stench of demo-maggot spew.
dith - 4:48 pm


another haggis hater, i'm guessin

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GravatarI agree, cory.


Gravatarhow about you, Flory?
jdw


I'm adopted meself.

Echidne adopted me. 4lg was kind enough to agree to it...but I didn't get the big bedroom.


GravatarDims hearts shrivel into dark depths where filthy elephant seals gorge. Dims traffic in the filth of a godless world.



Drug induced comes mind.

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GravatarCastro criticizes Cuban baseball player defectors.

Um, fuck you, commie swine.


GravatarWhy do you think I killed my twin in the womb?
NTodd

Who you think you are? The queen bee?


GravatarJohn Lennon knew nothing at all about recording technology

Wasn't it Lennon who also didn't know musical notation?


Gravatar
Just as long as I don't have to grind my own lenses...



Pussy!!!
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Gravataranother haggis hater, i'm guessin



Not to mention head cheese.


GravatarLurk...


Gravatarmy experience is different. the best artists i have met have mastered the technology used in their art. whether that is paint, or film, or music or ceramics, or whatever.
Olaf glad and big (elitist for

well, of course you are right. i'm just bitter about having to change gears.

one my favorite painters rider(?} used tobbaco juice and coffee for pigment.

and the technological developments in film have been amazing in the last 20 years. but i didn't make them, just learned how to use them. artists use what science makes.

these days i just try to make my martin hum. great guitar, not a great guitar player.


Gravatarbut calgary had MOOSES! in the street!

Don't you mean Meese?
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UppityNegro™Embigulato


Ahem. It had mooses on the golf course of the Calgary Country Club. On the 9th green to be specific.

On the other hand, the Albuquerque Country Club has beavers on the 9th green. Woody, did you see the article in NM Magazine this month about re-introducing otters into NM? Too kuhl. I think they really meant furry otters, but if Otter and d'Otters wanted to introduce themselves into Albuq. I bet that would work too.


GravatarVote Green not Blue
I will never be banned and censored.
HaHa Wankers.


Freedom of Speech forever
Not the Democratic party orthodoxy that is required to post here.

I think Dean is an idiot not a genius.
The Democrats were and are about as guilty for the Iraq war as Bush










Vote Green not Blue
I will never be banned and censored.
HaHa Wankers.


Freedom of Speech forever
Not the Democratic party orthodoxy that is required to post here.

I think Dean is an idiot not a genius.
The Democrats were and are about as guilty for the Iraq war as Bush










Vote Green not Blue
I will never be banned and censored.
HaHa Wankers.


Freedom of Speech forever
Not the Democratic party orthodoxy that is required to post here.

I think Dean is an idiot not a genius.
The Democrats were and are about as guilty for the Iraq war as Bush










Vote Green not Blue
I will never be banned and censored.
HaHa Wankers.


Freedom of Speech forever
Not the Democratic party orthodoxy that is required to post here.

I think Dean is an idiot not a genius.
The Democrats were and are about as guilty for the Iraq war as Bush











Vote Green not Blue
I will never be banned and censored.
HaHa Wankers.


Freedom of Speech forever
Not the Democratic party orthodoxy that is required to post here.

I think Dean is an idiot not a genius.
The Democrats were and are about as guilty for the Iraq war as Bush










Vote Green not Blue
I will never be banned and censored.
HaHa Wankers.


Freedom of Speech forever
Not the Democratic party orthodoxy that is required to post here.

I think Dean is an idiot not a genius.
The Democrats were and are about as guilty for the Iraq war as Bush










Vote Green not Blue
I will never be banned and censored.
HaHa Wankers.


Freedom of Speech forever
Not the Democratic party orthodoxy that is required to post here.

I think Dean is an idiot not a genius.
The Democrats were and are about as guilty for the Iraq war as Bush





































Vote Green not Blue
I will never be banned and censored.
HaHa Wankers.


Freedom of Speech forever
Not the Democratic party orthodoxy that is required to post here.

I think Dean is an idiot not a genius.
The Democrats were and are about as guilty for the Iraq war as Bush


Gravatar Day 14 bitches.
HEh | 11.26.05 - 4:50 pm | #


Has it really been 14 days since you jerked off? Good for you! And without the patch, too. That's just great discipline on your part.


GravatarI see what you mean about the dith wit. Slim pickings on hustler row, eh, troll master.


GravatarRedirecting flash with white cover stock paper for instance.

Hee. The ol' white paper with rubber band trick. I know it well.


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GravatarI've been on a Buzzcocks, Waylon Jennings kick for a few days now.


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GravatarThe Democrats were and are about as guilty for the Iraq war as Bush

We are all guilty, fuckwit.


Gravatar Day 14 bitches.
HEh | 11.26.05 - 4:50 pm | #

Has it really been 14 days since you jerked off?


All he had in the house was aftershave lotion, next stop was the Emergency Room...


GravatarOkay, if you guys want to play with the vomit covered idiot, I'm going to go make an omelet.
four legs good


I generally agree with you, but lately the feeding has gotten so bad, the threads are unreadable.


GravatarJohn Lennon knew nothing at all about recording technology.

Those musicians who believe they're a valued part of society should take a lesson from the sinking of the Titanic. The musicians on board were forced -- at gunpoint -- to continue playing while the ship was sinking. After the rising water shorted out their sound system, and silenced their electronical guitars, they were shot in the head and fed to the hammerhead sharks wich were circling the ship.

So all you musicians should disembark from your high horses.


GravatarWasn't it Lennon who also didn't know musical notation?
NTodd


Neither does McCartney, Mick, or Keef.


GravatarFreedom is a fragile force buffed with blood red - thinly waving slowly - atop a heros' grave.

Dims walk along and spit on it all. Dims take freedom and wipe there asse's with it.


GravatarHee. The ol' white paper with rubber band trick. I know it well.


Don't you know it. Ya do whatever it takes since no one sees behind the camera, only the final results.

You should see my studio lighting- jimmy-rigged doesn't even begin to describe it.

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GravatarHe laughs insanely while casually whipping out his Kodak Instamatic...WITH Flashbar, maggots!
cory


The flashbar was a Polaroid SX70 accessory.

pwn3d


GravatarVote Green!
And you'll get a submarine!


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GravatarI think Dean is an idiot not a genius.
fy

Anyone else feeling better than ever about Howard Dean just now?


GravatarWe are all guilty, fuckwit.
NTodd


Ah, NTodd, the Green Mountain Moon Calf.


GravatarDims cut and run like panty hose.


GravatarI've been on a Buzzcocks, Waylon Jennings kick for a few days now.

I'm more partial to Gang of Four and Merle Haggard myself.

Have you heard anything by Waylon's son, Shooter? I won't listen to him because of his first name.

-Pricipaled Leftist


GravatarVote Green!
And you'll get a submarine!


A yellow one.


GravatarBut that's what I'm ALL about. I am research! That's what my health depends on! See what I just told bo? How much more not-for-profit can I get?
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar


Don't think it'll cover opening up a CCRC. Better to be safe.
You don't want the IRS taking Arthur's inheritance.


GravatarAnyone else feeling better than ever about Howard Dean just now?
EPT | 11.26.05 - 4:57 pm | #


well, as it turned out, he was right about everything.

lots of us knew it at the time.


GravatarWasn't it Lennon who also didn't know musical notation?

I've used a vibrator for decades, and have no idea how it works.
-Liddy Dole


GravatarVote Libertarian and get an aquarium!


GravatarI can't help myself, i'm reading a lively discussion on OSM. They are going to change the internet, mark my words.

Jesus, my head still hurts.


GravatarHave you heard anything by Waylon's son, Shooter? I won't listen to him because of his first name.



Just listened to him for the first time last night. OK at best.

I've been a Waylon fan since I was a little kid. Even did security at a country music festival (puke...) just to see him up close. It was worth it.

.


GravatarSo all you musicians should disembark from your high horses.
Lime Rickey


Eat much Veetamin A back in the 60's. LR?



GravatarBut handheld flashes rule. It's a whole extra dimension to artist expression.
dieselcreek



Handheld Flash, You Say?

(Lit with a mix of no. 11, no. 2 and no. 25 flash bulbs)


Gravatar Vote Libertarian and get an aquarium!

Vote Reform and get ringworm!

Vote Natural Law and get some cole slaw!




...I got nothin'.


GravatarWasn't it Lennon who also didn't know musical notation?
NTodd

Given a good ear innocence of notation isn't fatal in a pop or jazz musician. Ella Fitzgerald, Louis Armstrong, anyone who was blind, didn't use it. It's when you have to reproduce exactly the notes the composer intended or to convey those to someone else that you need notation.
Never hurts to learn it, though.
Gardner Reed, the great expert on standard notation died recently. Not a bad composer either.


GravatarThe flashbar was a Polaroid SX70 accessory.

For mere mortals, maybe....


Gravatar Vote Libertarian and get an aquarium!
Jay C. | Email | Homepage | 11.26.05 - 4:59 pm | #


vote commie and get a salami!


GravatarAtrios is a torpid place, stuck in the heat and stench of demo-maggot spew.
dith - 4:48 pm


Ah, just in time for the Vogon Poetry contest. Lucky me...


GravatarArabella: I can't help myself, i'm reading a lively discussion on OSM.

a/k/a "Pantload Media?"
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GravatarAnyone here surprised that Duncan is running ads for a guy who praises cold-blooded child murderers? I'm not.


Gravatarmorans.


GravatarJeebus. If anyone thinks any politican is a hero, then we've got problems.

Admire? Yes.

Worship? No.


Gravatar

The guy on TV just told me to ask my doctor about Crestor.

Anyone around here a Doctor?

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Gravatar Vote Green!
And you'll get a submarine!


I'd like to have a submarine.


Gravatarhello moonbats


Gravatari still have an sx70. haven't clicke a picture on it for years, though.


GravatarDims cut and run like panty hose.
dith


Why would I want to cut my panty hose?
Ruin a perfectly good pair.


GravatarI'd like to have a submarine.
NTodd | Email | Homepage | 11.26.05 - 5:01 pm | #


you want the hot peppers on that sub?


GravatarVote Libertarian and get an aquarium!

Vote Republican and get fucked up the ass against your will.


GravatarAnyone else feeling better than ever about Howard Dean just now?

Yes, yes,yes. He's the man.

give 'em hell, harry


GravatarWhy would I want to cut my panty hose?


its all about the acc....

sorry. never mind.


Gravatar"The guy on TV just told me to ask my doctor about Crestor."

I invent products for doctors.
Do not brush your teeth with Crestor.

Thank you. Try the veal.


Gravatarcharley you got mail


GravatarDigital or film?

Democrat or faux-Green?

Mac or PC?

These are the questions.


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GravatarWe make holes in teeth...


GravatarHark!

Is that SNPA calling my name, softly, on the wind?

Why, yes -- yes it is!
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Gravatar If anyone thinks any politican is a hero, then we've got problems.

they do, and we have.


GravatarAh, just in time for the Vogon Poetry contest. Lucky me...

That was beautiful, you magnificent geek.

Anyone here surprised that Duncan is running ads for a guy who praises cold-blooded child murderers? I'm not.

I must've missed the Megele ad.


GravatarYou don't want the IRS taking Arthur's inheritance.
flory, keeper of the VIP keys


Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! The GWPDA Family Trust must be protected!


GravatarThe guy on TV just told me to ask my doctor about Crestor.

Anyone around here a Doctor?


I'd like to help you, but I'm about to fall asleep, thanks to my Lunesta prescription.


Gravatar"you can get a view camera kit, and build one yourself. i don't have a link. just google "view camera kit". i know they are out there.
Olaf glad and big (elitist for "

googled it...you bastard! It's in line now after i build :

a ceder strip canoe

a chippendale highboy

a theremin

a windsor chair

a guitar

blahblah...


GravatarAnd you'll get a submarine!

A yellow one.


I, for one, think it's high time we called out the Blue Meanies to reckon with fy.


GravatarAzerbaijan police charge election protest

BAKU (AFP) - Police used water cannons and tear gas to disperse thousands of demonstrators protesting against results of parliamentary elections won in a landslide by President Ilham Aliyev's ruling party.

Hundreds of police mounted a baton charge and fired tear gas at the retreating crowd, before using truncheons and two water cannons against the protestors as they fled into nearby streets of the capital, Baku.

Up to 10,000 people had gathered in the city's Victory Square days after election officials confirmed the victory of Aliyev's party.

The United States embassy condemned the police action, saying: "We deplore the unjustified and unprovoked use of force against citizens peacefully exercising their right to freedom of assembly."


GravatarVote Republican and get fucked up the ass against your will.
watertiger -5:02 pm


wouldn't voting GOPhascist be prima facie evidence of implied consent?


Gravatarmorans.
watertiger


I thought the new, official Eschaton term of art was 'bafoons'?

Did I miss a memo?


Gravatarwatertiger -

Bad mood?


.


Gravataryou want the hot peppers on that sub?

I only like peppers on my hoagie.


Gravatar i still have an sx70. haven't clicke a picture on it for years, though.
dirk gently


Digital or film?
spork_incident



I'm still using a circa-1960 Speed Graphic and a pair Nikon F2s (one 1972, the other 1974). You simply can't kill these bricks.

Debating buying the D200 or the D2x next year, though. They're amazing cameras.


GravatarMac or PC?


linux, you ludite.


Gravatar
The guy on TV just told me to ask my doctor about Crestor.

Anyone around here a Doctor?


Yes. Don't take that stuff. Instead, read two books and call me in the morning.

/Doctor GWPDA


GravatarBtw, has Sallyh been here today?
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GravatarI, for one, think it's high time we called out the Blue Meanies to reckon with fy.

I thought we *were* the Blue Meanies?

Or at least the Blue Anti-Feminists.


GravatarWe make holes in teeth...

Is it safe?


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Gravatarcurrently drinking a Chilean Pinot Noir.


GravatarI agree with Dith.


GravatarI only like peppers on my hoagie.
NTodd | Email | Homepage | 11.26.05 - 5:05 pm | #


do you like mayo on your hero?


GravatarI mean really, NTodd, don't you have anything better to do with your life than to sit around trading daily affirmations with a bunch of leftist retards? Aren't you the least bit ashamed? I thought not.


GravatarNTodd:
You want a submarine?
This is a submarine.
http://tinyurl.com/6toqt


Gravatardo you like mayo on your hero?

Watertiger's my hero, so I'd prefer whipped cream.


Gravatar
you want the hot peppers on that sub?
dirk gently, sociopathetic


Italian, oil, hots, sweets, lettuce, tomatoes, hold the opion and pickles.


Gravatari loved Yellow Submarine as a kid (and still do now)

my brother got the album soundtrack for a christmas parents many moons ago.

I loved it indeed.


Gravatar"Given a good ear innocence of notation isn't fatal in a pop or jazz musician. Ella Fitzgerald, Louis Armstrong, anyone who was blind, didn't use it. "

art tatum, i believe..


Gravatargoogled it...you bastard! It's in line now after i build :

a ceder strip canoe

a chippendale highboy

a theremin

a windsor chair

a guitar

blahblah...


I see I am not the only one around here with such a list. Of course the camera just got stuck on mine.


.


GravatarAnyone around here a Doctor?

.
UppityNegro™Embigulator


No, but I played one as a kid...


GravatarAfternoon, Batsies - what's going on?


Gravatar Digital or film?
spork_incident


film.

ricoh digital, but i've moved on to a sony mini-dv now.

i likes it when the pictures move.


GravatarVote for Green,

Ah, the wonderful world of pure ideals. Vote for someone who doesn't have a chance of winning and get the worst of all evils. Just like when Nixon won in '68 and Reagan won in '80 and Bush won in '00. So what if they slaughtered peasants, impoverished hundreds of millions, destroyed social services,... Those upper class supporters of guaranteed losers can feel oh, so good about voting their ideals.

No skin of their noses.


GravatarBush and Arnold are the man-men prophecized by our founders and beleived by all TRUE AMERICANS.

You must ally yourself with the man-men lest they come for you in the nite without asking first.


Gravataryou can get a view camera kit, and build one yourself. i don't have a link. just google "view camera kit". i know they are out there.

goddamit i have a fuck'n sinar.

but i ain't grinding my own lenses.

a view camera, like any camera is just a box with a lens. hell, i've made pics. with an oatmeal box and a piece of tinfoil.

but them new cameras are computers on the fly. quite amazing really. tho no less EVIL!


GravatarI thought the new, official Eschaton term of art was 'bafoons'?

Oooh, my bad!

spork, nope. tres relaxed, in fact. Just got back from a pedicure/foot massage. Just no silly pictures to poke fun at. Bush is in hiding.


GravatarDay 14 bitches. - HEh
Without a bath.


GravatarNTodd, did you tell your Mummy where you were?


GravatarDims cut and run like panty hose.
dith


a pedestrian after all...

too bad...

i had some hopes, but alas...

how lame

(how do ya make the freanch accent grav, so i can make a pun out of 'lame' and make it 'lamay' too?)

just askin


Gravatargood afternoon fellow moonbats...its good to be home. A curious thing happened today. The mailperson arrived bearing a box for my 17year old son.
The box contained a brand-new Koran. Now my son is an atheist, and I asked him why he had ordered it...he said, "because it was free, and I wanted to read it". Perfectly legitimate reasons to my mind. Then I got to thinking about it...El Esposo and I came to the same conclusion, we wondered if it was bait put out by "homeland security". Too paranoid? what do you all think?


GravatarAnyone around here a Doctor?

i am a time lord. does that count?


GravatarBush is in hiding.
watertiger


And the world rejoices.


Gravatardo you like mayo on your hero?

Watertiger's my hero, so I'd prefer whipped cream.
Eli


Can't. Be. Trusted.


GravatarYes, Sally was here earlier. Mid afternoon i think.

my head hurrts


GravatarVote for Ralph
Get a George W. Bush


GravatarVote Republican and get fucked up the ass against your will.
watertiger


Vote Republican and everybody gets cornholed.
The theft that keeps on taking...


GravatarWould you like a jelly baby?


GravatarWatertiger's my hero, so I'd prefer whipped cream.

hee hee hee! gotta promise to wear that special t-shirt, 'kay?


Gravatarbut them new cameras are computers on the fly. quite amazing really. tho no less EVIL!

At least with my old Pentax Spotmatic, I figured I didn't have to wait for them to give permission to use electronic devices on the plane...


GravatarYou must ally yourself with the man-men lest they come for you in the nite without asking first.
dith | 11.26.05 - 5:07 pm | #


that is so gay.

just sayin'


Gravatarjac sez:

I'm still using a circa-1960 Speed Graphic and a pair Nikon F2s (one 1972, the other 1974). You simply can't kill these bricks.

I think I'm in love with you.

1954 Crown Graphic.


.


GravatarI'd like to help you, but I'm about to fall asleep, thanks to my Lunesta prescription.
watertiger



Being a rich white woman who lives in Manhattan, it makes life very difficult.

I sympathize with you, you need to take drugs.


GravatarWGG ...

Isn't today "Not one damn dime" Day?

If so, I made it! In for the night now!


GravatarAfternoon, Batsies - what's going on?
Tena


If you like discussions of photography equipment...this is your thread.

Otherwise -- we have trolls.


Gravatarmy house contains no less than 4 Qu'ran's.

my brother even brought one of those book stands for the Qu'ran he brought back from Birmingham when he was training to be a RS teacher (but he did not enjoy it).


Gravatar Would you like a jelly baby?

and a stalk of celery, please.


GravatarI must've missed the Megele ad.

Mengele, I meant. But everybody knew that, 'cept the trolls, who have no sense of history.


Gravatar
No, but I played one as a kid...


I guess we can all heal ourselves then.

NT,

that period guy is trying to eat yer lunch.

.


GravatarWoody!
http://home.earthlink.net/ ~awink..._shortcuts.html

é é é


GravatarAfternoon, Batsies - what's going on?
Tena - 5:07 pm


there's a trool which shows flashes of wit, but unfortunately cannot sustain them past meth-induced polysyllabifications...

try typing that stoned...


GravatarI only like peppers on my hoagie.
NTodd

Thought they were Grinders up there.

.


GravatarI only like peppers on my hoagie.
NTodd

Thought they were Grinders up there.

.


Gravatarone of my school trips was to the Birmingham mosque.


Gravatarhee hee hee! gotta promise to wear that special t-shirt, 'kay?

Anything you say. Which t-shirt, the shooting-myself-in-the-head-like-a-rock-star one?


Gravatarwatertiger -

Glad to hear your massaged and relaxed.


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Gravataroh, dith grasshopper. Learn from the sifu. You are young as yet. Here is a koan "what is the sound of electrons clapping?"


Gravatarwe wondered if it was bait put out by "homeland security". Too paranoid? what do you all think?
SHG have stickhorse will trave


A good question. I certainly couldn't dismiss it out of hand.


Gravatar"I see I am not the only one around here with such a list. Of course the camera just got stuck on mine.


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UppityNegro™Embigulator"

glad i ain't alone, i'm a sucker for this stuff...ain't enuf lifetimes...


GravatarBeing a rich white woman who lives in Manhattan, it makes life very difficult.

hey, blkgrl! How you doin'?


GravatarI mean really, NTodd, don't you have anything better to do with your life than to sit around trading daily affirmations with a bunch of leftist retards?

No, why? Aren't you ashamed of hanging out all day with a bunch of leftist retards?

Aren't you the least bit ashamed?

Didn't I just answer that question?

I thought not.

That much is apparent.


GravatarDear Frank Rich:

If you're out there, I sure would enjoy reading your column called "Everyone's a Critic," to which there is a link at NYTimes.com

Happy Thanksgiving!

xxx...res


GravatarIf you like discussions of photography equipment...this is your thread.

Otherwise -- we have trolls.


We could liveblog Code Red: The Rubicon Conspiracy on Sci-Fi.

Pretty promising so far.


GravatarI sympathize with you, you need to take drugs.
blkgrl


Jackass. You are no more a 'black girl' than my Aunt Wiggie. You are a fool. Probably around 15. At 'home'. Being cute.

You're not. Go away. The grownups are speaking to one another. We don't like you.


Gravatar Which t-shirt, the shooting-myself-in-the-head-like-a-rock-star one?

The rainbow one.


Gravatar NTodd, did you tell your Mummy where you were?
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar |


that was cryptic.


Gravatar"Just wanted to make sure you really understood what was about to crawl up your pants."


GravatarWatertiger's my hero, so I'd prefer whipped cream.

I fucking hate competition.


GravatarShawk -- "Bush must have a plan to save his ass before the midterm elections. What is it?"

You left out trumpet the great success Iraq is having in taking over its own security, justifying troop withdrawals in numbers that will impress the electorate. Meanwhile remaining troops hunker down in the 14 military bases we've built -- which won't get much attention, reducing casualties and getting war off the front page.

All this while while claiming Dems are cowards who would have had us cut-'n-run before all this marvelous success would have had time to work.


GravatarThe rainbow one.

Done, and done.


And the scruffy burned-out hero just used the phrase "Reptilian PMS".


GravatarHundreds cross through Gaza terminal

Palestinians asserted control for the first time over an international frontier as hundreds of Gazans moved across a newly opened terminal at Rafah into neighbouring Egypt.

Travellers on Saturday exchanged embraces and some flashed victory signs, happy to be freer to travel and to be processed by Palestinian police rather than Israeli soldiers who occupied the Gaza Strip for 38 years before they withdrew in September.

"I feel free and happy as a bird with 10 wings," said Jihad Zanoun, 29, the first Palestinian to have his passport stamped at the Rafah terminal formally opened a day earlier. Israel had barred Zanoun from leaving Gaza for three years, citing security concerns.


Gravatar I agree with Dith.
flossy | 11.26.05 - 5:06 pm | #


God I love it when they talk to themselves.

BWAAAHAHAHAHAHahahahahahahaha!!!

maroons
morans
bafoons
whatever


GravatarI fucking hate competition.

No, wait...I hate fucking competition.


GravatarThat's the beauty part, NTodd: I didn't really care what you had to say, because you're such a nitwit.


Gravatarflory sez:

Can't. Be. Trusted.


watertiger? Eli? Whipped cream?


.


Gravatar"Anyone around here a Doctor?"

i'm a pskiatrist, and also give advice to the lovelorn...


GravatarThought they were Grinders up there.

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agave | Email | 11.26.05 - 5:11 pm | #


grinders are for lenses. focus, please.


GravatarSHG, who offered the free Koran? Officially, I mean.


GravatarAnd the scruffy burned-out hero just used the phrase "Reptilian PMS".

He'll clean up real good. Watching along with you.


GravatarWhy are dims so afraid of the sun of truth?


GravatarI agree with BlakNo1.


Gravatarhey, blkgrl! How you doin'?
watertiger


Not too bad. Your blog doesn't suck as much as I said it did either.


Gravatarwatertiger? Eli? Whipped cream?


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spork_incident


Eli.

He broke Marcia's heart last night.

Now he's moving on to WT.


Gravatar That's the beauty part, NTodd: I didn't really care what you had to say, because you're such a nitwit.

AWESOME! I'M FREEEEEEEEEEEEEE!


Gravatari likes it when the pictures move.



Damn straight! This is my baby:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/ eBayISAPI...ssPageName=WDVW

Of course I paid $4 fucking thousand for it...

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GravatarHe broke Marcia's heart last night.

Now he's moving on to WT.


Pfft. Watertiger would break *my* heart. And my arms.


Gravatar
lamè

Woody if this is what you are looking for, the code would be such: & e grave ;.

I'm sure you can get there from here.


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GravatarNo, wait...I hate fucking competition.
NTodd


But without competition, there is no drive for improvement.


GravatarNow he's moving on to WT.

We've literally shared a bed, Eli and I. He knows what he's in for.


GravatarArthur wants to go have walkies. I'm involved cause I know where the necklace is.

Would somebody please beat the trolls into the ground and then cover them over with hot asphalt and then run one of those neato heavy roller things over the whole mess? 'Enkew.


Gravatar"Of course I paid $4 fucking thousand for it..."

ain't it always the way?


Gravatardo you suppose 'dith' is a combination of 'darth' and 'sith'? how many action figures do you suppose adorn its basement lair?

SWE-II was on last night. man, did that suck. glad i didn't wast 8 bucks at the theater.


Gravatar
Beaten to the punch once again by GWPDA!!! /shakes fist

(she probably didn't have to look it up.)


Gravatarfianlly took a lunesta. Maybe I can sleep this headache off. OSM media is hysterica.


Gravatarfianlly took a lunesta. Maybe I can sleep this headache off. OSM media is hysterica.


GravatarWe've literally shared a bed, Eli and I. He knows what he's in for.

*happy wistful sigh*


Gravatar I only like peppers on my hoagie.
NTodd

Thought they were Grinders up there.


Yes, but I was born in PA.


GravatarHe's cleaned up, tigre. What's the verdict?


GravatarYou must ally yourself with the man-men lest they come for you in the nite without asking first.
dith


Comment, Mr Freud?


GravatarI think Dean is an idiot not a genius.
fy

Anyone else feeling better than ever about Howard Dean just now?
EPT


There is no better proof of the effectness of Howard Dean and his ideas than the howling of the trools.

Give 'em hell, Howard!


GravatarBeaten to the punch once again by GWPDA!!! /shakes fist

MWah!

Walkies!


GravatarNTodd...10# softshell pecans are heading your direction Monday.


Gravatar"Of course I paid $4 fucking thousand for it..."
ain't it always the way?


Yep. I've sorta come to terms with it. Sorta, since I have to buy new computers and other digital shit yearly.

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GravatarI think I'm in love with you.
1954 Crown Graphic
spork_incident


I've got a 1963 or so Crown, but for much of what I shoot the focal plane shutter is preferable.

As for the declaration of affection, my lovely bride is rather territorial


GravatarOoo, statistical mathematics!


GravatarEli,

Not my type. Looks too sulky.


GravatarPat Boone: "I can't read music, but my pitch is perfect."


GravatarBut without competition, there is no drive for improvement.

Improve on perfection? Pshaw.


Gravatar"You must ally yourself with the man-men lest they come for you in the nite without asking first.
dith"

"Comment, Mr Freud?"

The fruits of free internet access for the institutionalized and incarcerated.


GravatarEli.

He broke Marcia's heart last night.


Bastard.

He lives ten minutes from me. I'll go smack him around for Marcia.

On the other hand, Marcia wanted me to go shirtless and get oiled-up. So she might not have the best judgement.

I need to think about this...


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GravatarEli,

no he diiiiin't just say "my way or the highway."


GravatarBeing a rich white woman who lives in Manhattan, it makes life very difficult.

B-B-B-But I read on Ann Althouse's blog that watertiger was a man!


GravatarI think Dean is an idiot not a genius.
fy



I think the folks who didn't vote for him are idiots.


Gravatargrinders are for lenses. focus, please.
dirk gently, sociopathetic


Focus!
Ha!

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GravatarOxfam: Free trade may drain Arabs

Oxfam, the global anti-poverty organisation, has cautioned the EU against seeking rapid free trade in agriculture with Arab nations around the Mediterranean, saying it will drive people there deeper into poverty.

Oxfam said on Saturday that Europe must not force Mediterranean countries to open their agricultural markets too fast under any Euro-Mediterranean free trade agreement but urged them to accept more goods from northern Africa and the Middle East.

The group staged a small protest in downtown Barcelona early on Saturday, depicting a scene in which a few activists dressed like African farmers are stopped by a European Union (EU) customs barrier.


Gravatar NTodd...10# softshell pecans are heading your direction Monday.

SHG - 2 qts of maple syrup, full of love, heading your way Monday!


GravatarWe've literally shared a bed, Eli and I

[pout]


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Gravatar"Yep. I've sorta come to terms with it. Sorta, since I have to buy new computers and other digital shit yearly."

and if you don't mind me asking, what do you shoot with that?


Gravatarno he diiiiin't just say "my way or the highway."

I liked his "Gasp! A... Woman!" expression when Cueball introduced his co-commander.

I'm a little behind, because I rewound trying to make sense of Piss-Boy's mission briefing.


GravatarCharley, Charley, digital meant I could live through a start-up of a local magazine, stay alive through the perilous first five years, and then HIRE a photographer! I've created a place for graphics pros, writers, photographers from scratch. I'd much rather be in a consortium of people who are great at what they do than to dog it myself.
mag

hey, i was not criticizing (don't criticize what you can't understand) just lamenting. if you made it happen, word on you.

jebus, for a guy who's been nowhere i've been around, i'm fairly familiar with Albuquerque too. beavers on the 9 the hole? we got gators down here. and i've seen otters. what an awesome animal. when i was a kid i wanted to come back as a buffalo, but now that i'm grown up it's river otter all the way.


Gravatar
SWE-II was on last night. man, did that suck. glad i didn't wast 8 bucks at the theater.


Agreed. Unwatchable. The kid they got to play Anniken has got no acting skill.
None.


GravatarB-B-B-But I read on Ann Althouse's blog that watertiger was a man!

She's no man, man!


GravatarWould you like a jelly baby?

Is it a Xtian baby?


GravatarPat Boone: "I can't read music, but my pitch is perfect."
Lime Rickey


I figured Pat Boone for a catcher, not a pitcher.


GravatarSHG, who offered the free Koran? Officially, I mean.
TheOtherWA | Email | 11.26.05 - 5:14 pm | #

The Council on American-Islamic Relations
453 New Jersey Ave SE
Washington, DC.

It is a very large and quality publication...not a cheap item at all. I'd say it weighs about 5 pounds.


GravatarVideo prompts inquiry into 'abuse' of detainee

Malaysian officials scrambled to repair the nation's image yesterday after it was tarnished by a minute-long video clip showing a naked woman of Chinese origin being compelled to do squats while holding her ears in front of an ethnic Malay policewoman.

The police are investigating the grainy footage that looks like it was shot in a police station, and prime minister Abdullah Badawi insisted there should be no cover-up if the mobile phone recording is found to be authentic.

Chinese women have made many complaints about their treatment while in detention.


Gravatarand if you don't mind me asking, what do you shoot with that?


I run a design company:

http://www.therefinerygroup.com/


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GravatarThe title of this thread should have been "When Trolls Drink."


GravatarHe lives ten minutes from me. I'll go smack him around for Marcia.

spork_incident

Spork is such a gentleman...


GravatarDims puke out spittle lies choking and frothing out there round puck holes.


GravatarWould you like a jelly baby?

Is it a Xtian baby?


Xtian babies with jelly are okay, but I prefer chocolate sauce. OR whipped cream.


GravatarB-B-B-But I read on Ann Althouse's blog that watertiger was a man!

just a misogynist.


GravatarWe've literally shared a bed, Eli and I

[pout]


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spork_incident


Well, you only live 10 minutes away.

You could prolly share a bed with Eli anytime....


GravatarSpork is such a gentleman...

I'm a gentleman. Never gets me anywhere.


GravatarI think Dean is an idiot not a genius.
fy


It's surprising you can type while you've got Ralph Nader's shriveled balls in your mouth.


GravatarIs it a Xtian baby?

I'll have to ask The Doctor about that.


GravatarI'm a gentleman. Never gets me anywhere.

That's why I gave it up.


GravatarYou could prolly share a bed with Eli anytime....

Spork, just talk to him about zoom lenses, and Eli will put out.


GravatarWe've literally shared a bed, Eli and I

It's the banging on the desk I am jealous of.


GravatarThe Knicks are in the NBA finals?

This *is* science fiction.


GravatarI'm a gentleman. Never gets me anywhere.
NTodd


I already told you I love you. What more do you want?


Gravatar
I'm a gentleman. Never gets me anywhere.
NTodd


Me nee-ver.

I always got the "but we're just friends" line.

The kiss of death, that.


Gravatarglad i ain't alone, i'm a sucker for this stuff...ain't enuf lifetimes...


I was just sayin' the same thing yesterday or T-day. Ain't it true.


Gravatara ceder strip canoe

a chippendale highboy

a theremin

a windsor chair

a guitar

blahblah...


that's a bloody wonder to me, lists like that (olaf i saw the bike at Kev's whilst walkin buddy...you made it home?)...i'm just not a project-oriented guy, i guess

my brother-in-law (the one whom i like) says i was born with less of the protestant ethic than anyone he's ever known, and he's been a federal bureaucrat...
i'd really rather just sit around and think...

still: i mean, i got a call today from an add i run on-line from somebody about 100 miles north of here, up by abiquiu (that's georgia o'keefe country, if the name means anything)...
a lady up there has had trouble getting handyfolk to either show up or finish their jobs (she's not from around here)...

so i said i'd drive up next week and take a look around and fix a couple of things for her...

i said i'd normally not charge for an estimate, but the mileage (about 100 mi, one way), but i'd have to charge for gas...

she was fine with it...

so i'll get paid to drive up to my old stomping grounds, mebbe stop in at the old homestead (if anybody's there; it's out of the family now) in nambe...i'll take a dog or two...

but driving provides thinkin' time, and this time of year i wanna go through that country again...


GravatarSpork, just talk to him about zoom lenses, and Eli will put out.

Who's zoomin' who?



Man, this is some really shite acting here.


GravatarYou could prolly share a bed with Eli anytime....



I (heart) flory!!!


Gravatarjust talk to him about zoom lenses, and Eli will put out.


Is that a full extended zoom lens in your pocket?

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GravatarI'm thinking about taking some online writing courses through the local community college here in St. Paul. Has anyone hear taken anything online before? Is it helpful/worth it?

I don't like being around a lot of people.


GravatarEli,

the screenplay is . . . riveting.


Gravatarjust a misogynist.
watertiger


Is that anything like a massage therapist, 'cause I've got this twinge in my shoulder...


GravatarI already told you I love you. What more do you want?

Oh, sure, he's *married* and everything's cool, but I just have a girlfriend and it's a big scandal.


GravatarI already told you I love you. What more do you want?

[turns head, coughs, sheds a single tear]


GravatarXtian babies with jelly are okay, but I prefer chocolate sauce. OR whipped cream.
NTodd | Email | Homepage | 11.26.05 - 5:24 pm | #

or stuffed with prunes, wrapped in bacon and grilled over a low flame.


Gravatar
It's surprising you can type while you've got Ralph Nader's shriveled balls in your mouth.
JK47



Thanks to Ralph Nader George Bush became president. He is despicable.


GravatarXtian babies with jelly are okay, but I prefer chocolate sauce. OR whipped cream.
NTodd



Don't waste whipped cream that way.

Save it for Watertiger.


GravatarAgreed. Unwatchable. The kid they got to play Anniken has got no acting skill.
None.
Billy B | Email | 11.26.05 - 5:22 pm | #


although how would you know? the dialog and directing was so bad, sam jackson and ewan mcgreggor were pretty shitty, too.


GravatarMarcia B -

Caught you on a Brady Reunion last night on the tube. Have to say, you're still lookin' fine, girlfriend.

Real fine.


GravatarYou could prolly share a bed with Eli anytime....

There's a thought.

Wait...I'm supposed to be smacking Eli around.

I am in Hell!!!

[/mel gibson in The Bounty]


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GravatarI already told you I love you. What more do you want?
Marcia Brady


Well, bein' as its NTodd an' all....prolly whipped cream, leather and shoe porn....


Gravataralthough how would you know? the dialog and directing was so bad, sam jackson and ewan mcgreggor were pretty shitty, too.

I like Samuel J, but I thought he was pretty woefully miscast there.


GravatarIs that anything like a massage therapist, 'cause I've got this twinge in my shoulder...
Marcia Brady ∞ | 11.26.05 - 5:28 pm | #


my wife is a massage therapist.

she's wonderful.


GravatarDims puke out spittle lies choking and frothing out there round puck holes.
dith | 11.26.05 - 5:24 pm

the bot-like repetition

hhhmmmmmm


GravatarMan, there is some heavy sarcasm going on here today. Keep up the good work.


GravatarIs that a full extended zoom lens in your pocket?

Nah, I'm just happy to see you.

Oh, sure, he's *married* and everything's cool, but I just have a girlfriend and it's a big scandal.

Married guys are expected to fool around. You young, unattached types need to be faithful because otherwise you ain't gettin' any (something the aforementioned married guys long ago gave up on).


Gravatarmy wife is a massage therapist.

she's wonderful.


My mother used to be. Sigourney Weaver was one of her regulars.


GravatarI figured Pat Boone for a catcher, not a pitcher.
jac


Pat and John Asscrack are collaborating on a new album: "I Love the Touch of the Big Guy's Hand."


Gravatarthe bot-like repetition

hhhmmmmmm


The same thing just crossed my mind.
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GravatarMmm... Kiss the lucky boar's hoof...


GravatarFor any academics out there (I'm looking at you GWPDA):

Is Ruy Teixeira a respectable cite?


Gravataralthough how would you know? the dialog and directing was so bad, sam jackson and ewan mcgreggor were pretty shitty, too.
dirk gently, sociopathetic


Lucas really effed up the prequels, IMHO. While a lot of the dialogue, story line, etc in the original were a little goofy, it couldn't hold a candle to the idiocy of the latter.

Jar Jar Binks? Please.


GravatarHey, where can I get one of those spiffy universal translator thingies?


GravatarGetting a crap performance out of Samuel L Jackson is an achievement in itself.


Gravatar Xtian babies with jelly are okay, but I prefer chocolate sauce. OR whipped cream.
NTodd | Email | Homepage | 11.26.05 - 5:24 pm | #

or stuffed with prunes, wrapped in bacon and grilled over a low flame.


No way. That stuff goes right through me, and I'll be on the can for hours.

Don't waste whipped cream that way.

Save it for Watertiger.


Who are you who are so wise in the ways of science?

Well, bein' as its NTodd an' all....prolly whipped cream, leather and shoe porn....

For the record, it's softcore shoe porn.


Gravatarmy wife is a massage therapist.

she's wonderful.
dirk gently, sociopathetic


I'll send you my address...


GravatarSigourney Weaver was one of her regulars.

Mine, too.









Sooooo...how 'bout them Stillers?


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GravatarIs that anything like a massage therapist, 'cause I've got this twinge in my shoulder...

I do have very strong hands.




I'll come in again.


GravatarLucas really effed up the prequels, IMHO. While a lot of the dialogue, story line, etc in the original were a little goofy, it couldn't hold a candle to the idiocy of the latter.

Jar Jar Binks? Please.


The first two were dogawful, but I thought the third was a genuine Star Wars movie. Yeah, the dialogue was hokey and the wipes were cheesy, but that's part of what being a Star Wars movie is all about.


GravatarI (heart) flory!!!
watertiger


(aw shucks)

I (heart) WT, too.


GravatarIs Ruy Teixeira a respectable cite?


I think so- he wrote a good book "The Emerging Democratic Majority"


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Gravatardo you like mayo on your hero?

Spelling, spelling...Gyro. tsk tsk.

First time I ever encountered the Gyro-Jet pistol in a story, I immediately wondered if it fired amall Greek sammiches, or if it was really huge, and fired full sized ones... The ultimate food-fight weapon!


Gravatardieselcreek: very nice portolio! hope you do well at what you do..

"i'd really rather just sit around and think..."

well, then there's that, too....i just like to make shit, and i got so many thing that interest me peripherally that i could fill 10 lifetimes...

so many cool possibilites..


GravatarOoh, I dunno, that man men coming for you in the night thing is kind of interesting. I like the way it spells night - n*i*t*e.

This is the same troll who was posting those nonsensical comments yesterday - can't remember what it called itself - but they were the same kind of comments. Out in the ozone schtick like "man men coming for you in the nite."


GravatarPat and John Asscrack are collaborating on a new album: "I Love the Touch of the Big Guy's Hand."
Lime Rickey








Married guys are expected to fool around.
NTodd


Wha? What page is that on in the handbook?


gettin' any (something the aforementioned married guys long ago gave up on).
NTodd


Again, what page? I DEFINITELY am not following THAT guideline . . . in fact, I didn't follow that one several times this week, including this afternoon.


Gravatar*Yawn*

What up everybody?


GravatarThe same thing just crossed my mind.
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UppityNegro™Embigulator | Email | Homepage | 11.26.05 - 5:31 pm


jolly holidays amigo...

sorry we couldn't connect as we flew low through indianapolis either eastward or westward...

that was a journey the accomplishment of which was greater than the sum of the anticipated ends.

best to you and yrs...


GravatarLucas really effed up the prequels, IMHO. While a lot of the dialogue, story line, etc in the original were a little goofy, it couldn't hold a candle to the idiocy of the latter.

The original trilogy had kind of cheesy dialogue, but Lucas actually allowed his actors to put some personality into the roles. Luke Skywalker started off kind of like a whiny, bored teenager, Princess Leia was always pissed off, Han Solo had the rakish charm. The second trilogy was all about trade federations and the worst love story ever committed to film. Everybody is so goddamned serious. Revenge of the Sith is the only watchable movie of the second trilogy, and just barely.


GravatarI just reloaded the main Eschaton page...I think we need to have an "open thread" quotation contest. Any takers?


GravatarGoing to the store, what does everybody need?


GravatarThe OSM stuff is so so so funny. They have a high idea of themselves. And they are all sharp as marbles when they talk like this:

"PJM is going to be what is was meant to be: a blogger driven undertakinf shaped to the greatest possible extent by the interests and preferences of bloggers themselves."

Shit, why didn't anybody think about this before.


GravatarLucas really effed up the prequels, IMHO.

That's not opinion. That's objective fact.

But I gotta say that I liked Epi III to a certain extent. Give me that, cut the stupid "I'm knocked up dialog" and add a summary of Epis I and II, and it's exactly what was necessary.

I mean, really, Epi IV is a great movie with the shittiest dialog ever, but it had spunk. Mebbe some of that's because I watch it with my 7yo eyes, but man, it was full of soul and that organically shitty FX that CGI just can't compare to.


Gravatardo you like mayo on your hero?

Spelling, spelling...Gyro. tsk tsk.


Unless you're gay and kinky.


GravatarGWPDA - I do wish you would consider mini-eschacon on 12/27. I'd love to meet you.


Gravatarjdw, much thanks- it's an obsession. Long hours, constant close dealines, BUT it's all about creating something from nothing! That's the best part, constantly creating.

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GravatarFor the record, it's softcore shoe porn.
NTodd


So, the Red Shoe Diaries - the story lines are really about shoes?


Gravatarbut I thought the third was a genuine Star Wars movie. Yeah, the dialogue was hokey and the wipes were cheesy, but that's part of what being a Star Wars movie is all about.
Eli


I just couldn't get past all Natalie Portman's hair and costume changes, during what was supposed to be an incredibly tumultuous time. Any Ewan MacGregor movie that makes me sleepy rather than perky is doing something wrong (ie Rogue Trader).


GravatarThe OSM stuff is so so so funny. They have a high idea of themselves. And they are all sharp as marbles when they talk like this:

Operation Schadenfreude Media.


Gravatar Lucas really effed up the prequels, IMHO. While a lot of the dialogue, story line, etc in the original were a little goofy, it couldn't hold a candle to the idiocy of the latter.

I kind of agree with Eli - the 3d one was not as bad as the other two. It had the feel of the originals, more than the other two did.

Lucas cannot direct people to save his life. The reason the characters were more developed in the first one is because Spielberg was involved. Ever since then, the effects have taken over. That's all Lucas ever really did - effects.

That's my opinion, anyway.


GravatarOut in the ozone schtick like "man men coming for you in the nite."
Tena


Its really sad what meth is doing to our young children, isn't it?


GravatarAttaturk asks:

What up everybody?

Film is better than digital and everybody is flirting with everyone else.

In other words: the same ol' same ol'.


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GravatarFirst time I ever encountered the Gyro-Jet pistol in a story, I immediately wondered if it fired amall Greek sammiches, or if it was really huge, and fired full sized ones... The ultimate food-fight weapon!
Doozer, (truncated)


Now that's what I call fast food! Yummy too. Haven't had a gyro in years.


GravatarThe OSM stuff is so so so funny. They have a high idea of themselves. And they are all sharp as marbles when they talk like this:



LOL- whatever.

TPM is where it's at. That could be a huge true newsbreaking/reporting website.

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GravatarThe Muslim liquor store, around the corner from the kosher pork butcher.


GravatarBut I gotta say that I liked Epi III to a certain extent. Give me that, cut the stupid "I'm knocked up dialog" and add a summary of Epis I and II, and it's exactly what was necessary.

Yes, Episode III was what everyone was hoping and expecting the whole prequel trilogy to be. Who gives a shit about the fucking Parliament or Trade Federation???


Gravatarjac - the rules in question are in footnotes, so it's no wonder you missed them. I'll send you a PDF of my copy, with the requisite text highlighted for your convenience.


GravatarFilm is better than digital and everybody is flirting with everyone else.

and i somehow wound up covered in whipped cream.

so yeah, same old...


Gravatarsorry we couldn't connect as we flew low through indianapolis either eastward or westward...

No worries, I am sure there will be another time, another place.

Glad to see that you and yers are doing well.

.i just like to make shit, and i got so many thing that interest me peripherally that i could fill 10 lifetimes...


I happen to possess precisely this affliction.

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GravatarWe've literally shared a bed, Eli and I. He knows what he's in for.
watertiger


Oooooooooooooooooh! I'm telllllling.











Who, I don't know.


Gravatar
Film is better than digital and everybody is flirting with everyone else.

In other words: the same ol' same ol'.


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spork_incident



Oh, so who's my "wife" hittin' on now and vice versa?

I stay out of the A/V debates, I'm a different category of geekdom.


Gravatar Going to the store, what does everybody need?

Beer. It would save my lazy ass a trip.

Thanks!
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GravatarOh, so who's my "wife" hittin' on now and vice versa?

Just Eli, and it was before I met you.

I'm a one-guy kinda woman.


GravatarOmlettes are delicious!!


I'm watching food channel- some show about a dessert show in los vegas.


Yummmmmmmmm!!!!


GravatarI'll send you a PDF of my copy, with the requisite text highlighted for your convenience.
NTodd



"See, honey? It says RIGHT HERE - I'm EXPECTED to fool around! And Watertiger is COVERED IN WHIPPED CREA - OUCH! That really hurt!"


GravatarFor the record, it's softcore shoe porn.
NTodd

So, the Red Shoe Diaries - the story lines are really about shoes?


Oh, sorry, that was a typo. Should've read "softshoe porn". And apple cores.

Film is better than digital and everybody is flirting with everyone else.

and i somehow wound up covered in whipped cream.


Digital is better than film. And...wait, what was that about whipped cream?

I, uh...have to go post some pics. BRB.


GravatarAny Ewan MacGregor movie that makes me sleepy rather than perky is doing something wrong (ie Rogue Trader).

Watch out! He's trading roguishly!


Lucas cannot direct people to save his life. The reason the characters were more developed in the first one is because Spielberg was involved. Ever since then, the effects have taken over. That's all Lucas ever really did - effects.

Stephen Hunter, one of the WaPo critics, observed after Epi II that the American actors all seemed lost, while the British actors seemed to be having a grand old scenery-chewing time.

He theorized that it was because of the Americans' reliance on method acting, where they try to get inside the characters, and Lucas didn't give them fully-fleshed characters to try to inhabit.


Gravatar"jdw, much thanks- it's an obsession. Long hours, constant close dealines, BUT it's all about creating something from nothing! That's the best part, constantly creating."

yup, know the feeling....sent ya an email.


GravatarWhy do you insist on trying to ban and censor me? Are you liberals afraid of the free speech that you supposedly advocate?
I support the EFF a lot more than you do as I use their tools for privacy and pevention of censorship like is done routinely here.

VOTE GrEeN nOt BlUe
And the idiotic Chairman Howie










Why do you insist on trying to ban and censor me? Are you liberals afraid of the free speech that you supposedly advocate?
I support the EFF a lot more than you do as I use their tools for privacy and pevention of censorship like is done routinely here.

VOTE GrEeN nOt BlUe
And the idiotic Chairman Howie










Why do you insist on trying to ban and censor me? Are you liberals afraid of the free speech that you supposedly advocate?
I support the EFF a lot more than you do as I use their tools for privacy and pevention of censorship like is done routinely here.

VOTE GrEeN nOt BlUe
And the idiotic Chairman Howie










Why do you insist on trying to ban and censor me? Are you liberals afraid of the free speech that you supposedly advocate?
I support the EFF a lot more than you do as I use their tools for privacy and pevention of censorship like is done routinely here.

VOTE GrEeN nOt BlUe
And the idiotic Chairman Howie


























Why do you insist on trying to ban and censor me? Are you liberals afraid of the free speech that you supposedly advocate?
I support the EFF a lot more than you do as I use their tools for privacy and pevention of censorship like is done routinely here.

VOTE GrEeN nOt BlUe
And the idiotic Chairman Howie

















Why do you insist on trying to ban and censor me? Are you liberals afraid of the free speech that you supposedly advocate?
I support the EFF a lot more than you do as I use their tools for privacy and pevention of censorship like is done routinely here.

VOTE GrEeN nOt BlUe
And the idiotic Chairman Howie













Why do you insist on trying to ban and censor me? Are you liberals afraid of the free speech that you supposedly advocate?
I support the EFF a lot more than you do as I use their tools for privacy and pevention of censorship like is done routinely here.

VOTE GrEeN nOt BlUe
And the idiotic Chairman Howie


GravatarLucas cannot direct people to save his life.

American Graffiti?


GravatarOh, so who's my "wife" hittin' on now and vice versa?

Just Eli, and it was before I met you.

I'm a one-guy kinda woman.
watertiger


LOL,

We all know...

You cannot stop Watertiger, You can only hope to Contain her.


Gravatarand i somehow wound up covered in whipped cream.

I'll be in my bunk.

[/Jayne]

See y'all in a few.


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GravatarSpeaking of Red Shoes. What is it with that hunky secretary that the Rat has with him all the time. When a pope has such a gorgeous hunk of priest with him all the time, well, you know.


GravatarGood thing they had that universal translator thingy, eh?


GravatarYou cannot stop Watertiger, You can only hope to Contain her.

I AM SADDAM HUSSEIN!!!


GravatarDigital vs. Film

It depends on who is shooting. Most mags and newspapers are digital and you can tell. They haven't figured out proper exposure yet. You will see a lot of washed out areas.

I tend to love film grain more than pixel grain.
But digital is instant gratification and save lots of money if done properly.

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Gravatar"See, honey? It says RIGHT HERE - I'm EXPECTED to fool around! And Watertiger is COVERED IN WHIPPED CREA - OUCH! That really hurt!"

Dude, read the footnotes to the footnotes: never mention WATERTIGER and WHIPPED CREAM. Geesh, do I have to tell you everything?

Just Eli, and it was before I met you.

I'm a one-guy kinda woman.


You met me before you met Eli. Just sayin'.


GravatarMe so happy!

'Nother CA 'Thuglican has Eau de Abramoff all over him!

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Former House majority leader Tom DeLay (R), now facing separate campaign finance charges in his home state of Texas, is one of the members under scrutiny, the sources said. Sen. Conrad Burns (R-Mont.), Rep. John T. Doolittle (R-Calif.) and other members of Congress involved with Indian affairs, one of Abramoff's key areas of interest, are also said to be among them.
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GravatarThank you, dieselcreek.


GravatarOk, fy. I send a dollar to the DNC every time you post here from now on. And I write another letter to a real Green encouraging them to make common cause with the left wing of the Democratic party, etc.


GravatarMost mags and newspapers are digital and you can tell. They haven't figured out proper exposure yet.


I don't think that's the problem.


GravatarLucas cannot direct people to save his life. The reason the characters were more developed in the first one is because Spielberg was involved. Ever since then, the effects have taken over. That's all Lucas ever really did - effects.

At the risk of being cast out of this particular Saturday evening Atriot love-fest can I just say that I hate -- hate -- "Star Wars" and all sci-fi in general?

I just don't get it. Or like it.

I don't know if I've ever seen a sci-fi -- or sci-fi lite -- movie that I've liked.

Okay. Let the pillory-ing begin.


GravatarI AM SADDAM HUSSEIN!!!

THE STUDIO IS IN A PANIC!!!





I'll come in again.

Is anyone else still watching the Rubicon movie? It sucks both literally *and* figuratively!


GravatarVote pink
you'll look good in mink!





Um, I got nuthin. Do I get points for trying?


GravatarYou cannot stop Watertiger, You can only hope to Contain her.

I AM SADDAM HUSSEIN!!!
watertiger


I'll let you have the underneath stuff that keeps the clock running, but we must stop you from going deep.


*Wow, football is just full of double entendres*


Gravatar
fy | 11.26.05 - 5:43 pm


beforre you there was already enough shit in the world. you're just another random piece of it, and i'm rapidly growing sick of it. be very glad that your physical being should not pass within my range to damage it, for i would, without a single twinge of remorse...


GravatarIs it okay to wear overalls to a new wave/goth show?


GravatarI must depart these pixelated shores for a bit.

Later, batsies.


GravatarI AM SADDAM HUSSEIN!!!
watertiger



Perfect. Go find George Bush and give him a blow job.

Surely the Republican Congress will impeach the SOB then.


GravatarWhy do you insist on trying to ban and censor me? Are you liberals afraid of the free speech that you supposedly advocate?

Hey fuckstick, if you want to come on here and try to make a case for the Greens, be our guest. Disrupting things with your scrolling bullshit is not political discourse. You are a jackass, plain and simple and in need of several hard COCKPUNCHES. No one is afraid of you. We are, however, annoyed with you.

Shorter fy: "Look at me! Me! Me Me Me Me Me Me!"


GravatarStar Wars is NOT sci-fi.


GravatarIs it okay to wear overalls to a new wave/goth show?


he he. If in Vermont, yes.

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GravatarRep. John T. Doolittle (R-Calif.) and other members of Congress involved with Indian affairs, one of Abramoff's key areas of interest, are also said to be among them.

Yeah, Doolittle is an esp. nasty moronic brownshirt fuck. If we're lucky, they'll unearth some photos of him with a few little boys, as well!


GravatarJesus watches over all.


Gravatar Is it okay to wear overalls to a new wave/goth show?

I think it depends on the color and material.


GravatarI just don't get it. Or like it.


That's okay.


We're tolerant of those with disabilities.


GravatarStar Wars is NOT sci-fi.

Fine.

I still HATE IT.


GravatarWhy do you insist o--

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...


Gravatarres,

I, for one, agree. I've only watched the Star Wars movies.

Too escapist for me.


GravatarJust clarifying is all...


GravatarLadyfriend is heading this-a-ways, so I better go get a load worked up... of laundry, you guttersnipes!

There are clean sheets, and then there are clean sheets, Juno?


GravatarVOTE GrEeN nOt BlUe
And the idiotic Chairman Howie


Okay, I promise. Now will you shut the fuck up.

Lucas cannot direct people to save his life.

American Graffiti?


I'd say he can't direct action (see his lightsabre (heehee!) scenes). And generally he's been blessed with a talented, energetic cast and a script that doesn't suck much worse than my eating Alphebet Soup and taking a crap on some paper.

You cannot stop Watertiger, You can only hope to Contain her.

I am willing to invade her, since containment is a Failed Policy.


GravatarWe're tolerant of those with disabilities.
four legs good


That's good, 'cause I just whacked my head good on the irrigation well roof and am pretty darned disabled just now.


GravatarToo escapist for me.

So you're saying Lucas is an escapist from LA?


GravatarI don't think that's the problem.



That's what people at the Wisconsin State Journal, Capitol Times, The Isthmus, Core Weekly, many a pro-photographer have told me.

So, I'm stickin' with it.

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GravatarToo escapist for me.


That's the point.


Gravatar Is it okay to wear overalls to a new wave/goth show?
Zap Rowsdower, Mail Boy


If you are a lesbian and you also wear a flannel shirt.

The Doc Martens are optional.


GravatarOh, Arabella already found that waaaaay up thread. ;^(
But still.


Gravatarres, I date the death of serious, American studio movie making from the release of Star Wars. I hated it, I didn't see the sequels I absolutely despise the music, hate it with a white hot passion. John Williams music is stupid and bombastic. His music for the Harry Potter movies is the worst part of them, after the violence they did to the books.


Gravatar*Wow, football is just full of double entendres*

Oh.



My.

(fans self)


Gravatarmore OSM. Question: how to set up comments section:

Glenn, regarding feedback and comments, we've been discussing that internally. We obviously want to avoid spam and junk comments, if that's possible. One proposal is have everyone register for a nominal fee (say three bucks) with a credit card payment to one of several charities (not to Pajamas). That way people have identified themselves as real human beings... and given some money to something worthwhile. Our thought is they would be less likely to spew hate from whatever angle. What do you think?"

Yes, and we will make the real credit card holding human beings behave. And this way we will discourage trolls. We need to control the emotions. Those bloggere are not our sort, you know.

Asshats - who is going to pay to comment? Oh, I see. Only your friends will pay to post. Hmm. What kind of comments will you get from your friend.


Gravatargoing to go outside, have a G&T, watch the sunset and enjoy the curious feeling of 75* on 11/27. Later batties. Love you much.


GravatarThat's good, 'cause I just whacked my head good on the irrigation well roof and am pretty darned disabled just now.


I'm sorry to hear that.

May Arthur will lick the injury and make it all better.


Gravatar Star Wars is NOT sci-fi.

Yes, it is. And fantasy.

Let's not get into a snobby genre debate.


Gravatarres, I date the death of serious, American studio movie making from the release of Star Wars.

Others date it to "Jaws." I actually liked "Jaws."

John Williams music is stupid and bombastic. His music for the Harry Potter movies is the worst part of them, after the violence they did to the books.

You want to talk annoying movie music? Let's talk Danny Elfman.


Gravatar75* on 11/27



Bastard.


GravatarStar Wars is NOT sci-fi.

Fine.

I still HATE IT.


I can see why people hate the Star Wars movies. I was born in 1972, just the right age. That shit blew my mind when I was six years old.


GravatarGwpda, have Arthur make you some tea and bring you aspirin.


GravatarDude, read the footnotes to the footnotes: never mention WATERTIGER and WHIPPED CREAM. Geesh, do I have to tell you everything?
NTodd



Watertiger - whipped cream.

Watertiger - whipped cream.

Watertiger - whipped cream.

Watertiger - whipped cream.


Sorry, dude - rules or no rules, there is no way I'm giving up THAT mental image


GravatarIs it okay to wear overalls to a new wave/goth show?
Zap Rowsdower, Mail Boy


You can wear anything you want. What, a goth is going to kick your ass?


GravatarSW is an adventure that happens to take place in space.

Are you kidding me? I live for snobby genre debates!!


Gravatar
Let's not get into a snobby genre debate.


Ooooooooh, I loooove those. Why are you being such a party pooper.
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GravatarIf Danny Elfman is worse than John Williams I'm glad you warned me, res.


GravatarThat's good, 'cause I just whacked my head good on the irrigation well roof and am pretty darned disabled just now.

OW! Ice ice baby!


GravatarI think it's perfectly possible to like both sci-fi big budget films and serious film.

It doesn't have to be one or the other.


GravatarThat's the point.
four legs good


For me, it's the same as stuff like D & D. It's a control thing.

If you are a lesbian and you also wear a flannel shirt.

The Doc Martens are optional.
jac


I wear a lot of flannel as it is. No problems there.


GravatarYes, it is. And fantasy.

Let's not get into a snobby genre debate.


I hate both. I hated "Lord of the Rings."

/ducks


GravatarWatertiger - whipped cream.

Watertiger - whipped cream.

Watertiger - whipped cream.

Watertiger - whipped cream.


NO, NO, NO!

Watertiger - floor wax.

Watertiger - floor wax.

Watertiger - floor wax.

Watertiger - floor wax.


She's more than capable of multitasking.


GravatarI am willing to invade her, since containment is a Failed Policy.

What ARE you drinking?


GravatarI hate both. I hated "Lord of the Rings."

Okay, now hold up.

(grabs attaturk's arm)

Now say that again.


GravatarYou can wear anything you want. What, a goth is going to kick your ass?
JK47


Gravatarobserved after Epi II that the American actors all seemed lost, while the British actors seemed to be having a grand old scenery-chewing time.

Seeming lost is absolutely what Samuel Jackson did. He just strolled through that part. I don't think he had a clue what it was about. The best actor on the whole Jedi counsel was Yoda.


GravatarEPT: The Elfman Ouvre.


GravatarShe's more than capable of multitasking.

Whilst wearing crinolines.


GravatarI hate both. I hated "Lord of the Rings."

/ducks
res ipsa loquitur



Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!

(deep breaths)


oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!


Gravatar
You can wear anything you want. What, a goth is going to kick your ass?


'

Now that's funny!
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GravatarWatertiger - floor wax.
Attaturk



Attaturk, you ignorant slut


GravatarOkay, now hold up.

(grabs attaturk's arm)

Now say that again.


SNORE CITY! And I think Viggo is hot stuff!


GravatarSpeaking of the film vs. digital debate, a serious photographer told me recently that he, and many other serious BW photographers and film makers think that digital BW doesn't begin to approach BW film and they're not sure it ever will.


I'm not sure I'm qualified to venture an opinion on that but I thought that was interesting.


Gravatarres, I date the death of serious, American studio movie making from the release of Star Wars.

Others date it to "Jaws." I actually liked "Jaws."


Jaws and Star Wars just broke the mold. It wasn't their fault that other Hollywood fucks and beancounters tried to duplicate their success with cookiecutter shit.

John Williams music is stupid and bombastic. His music for the Harry Potter movies is the worst part of them, after the violence they did to the books.

You want to talk annoying movie music? Let's talk Danny Elfman.


JW is derivative and repetitive, but he captures the right mood. Danny Elfman (god I love Oingo and his sound overall), is more easily identify than mountain lion scat in a Vermont forest. Bum-bum-bumbumbumbum-bum-bum...

Whether it's a movie or a preview, I can name his shit in 2 notes.

SW is an adventure that happens to take place in space.

In my dimension, that counts as SciFi. How many SciFi books/movies go beyond Space Opera shit? Few of the good ones.

Watertiger - whipped cream.

Sorry, dude - rules or no rules, there is no way I'm giving up THAT mental image


You're going to miss me when I kill myself.


GravatarWG'sG
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ALT+130 through 143. The easy way...


GravatarRuy Teixeira a respectable cite?
Marcia Brady ∞


Si! Absolutamente! Verdad!

Good as gold.


Gravatarres, I have copied it and will use it well.


GravatarI hate both. I hated "Lord of the Rings."

Okay, them's fighting words.


GravatarOk, fy. I send a dollar to the DNC every time you post here from now on. And I write another letter to a real Green encouraging them to make common cause with the left wing of the Democratic party, etc.

You will be broke soon. Another dollar please!!


GravatarSW is an adventure that happens to take place in space.

BlakNo1


According to Joseph Campbell, the original trilogy modernized themes of the father-quest, as in the Odessey.


Gravatarfour legs good - not to worry. Right now scientists are genetically engineering E. coli to take photographs. Shit bacteria B&W - it's the wave of the future.


Gravatarwhat the hell is going on in this stoopit movie on Sci-Fi?


GravatarWhy are you being such a party pooper.

Because I'm full of shit?

I am willing to invade her, since containment is a Failed Policy.

What ARE you drinking?


Whatever you're having.


GravatarGood as gold.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar


Thank you. It's for Prof. Bunny's class.


GravatarAhhhh, I knew there were many fellow AD&Ders here.

Sold my books, but still have the dice. Wait... I think there is a monsters compendium around here somewhere...


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GravatarWhen I think of sci-fi movies, I tend to think more along the lines of 2001 & Blade Runner.


GravatarFriend of mine from university went to school with Hayden Christiansen. Said, and I quote, "I'm not surprised he became an actor."

Ow! Go away, headache...


Gravatarwhat the hell is going on in this stoopit movie on Sci-Fi?


Who care? food channel has desserts on.


GravatarThe 5-pound Quoran is safe. Watch out for the 3-pound version. And make sure it doesn't smell like piss.

Howard Dean is the scariest mofo these rightards have ever seen. It's why they are literally hysterical.

But let's all bow down to W and Ahhnold, whose combined approval ratings are approaching the Clenis's lowest ones.


Gravatardo you like mayo on your hero?

Spelling, spelling...Gyro. tsk tsk.


i'm back. and if i'd meant 'gyro' i'd have said 'gyro'.

hero is another way of saying 'hoagie', but we call them 'subs'.


GravatarBlade runner is a great film.


Gravatar"Star Wars is NOT sci-fi."

Ain't theat the truth!

Star Wars was and still is nothing more than a hokey spaghetti western set in space. What makes it stand out in people's mind are the special effects.

I remember the first movie when everyone was when oohhing and aahhhing over the laser shots and the jump to lightspeed. But in the second movie everyone was in rapture over the laser shots in daylight. And as the movies progressed, Yoda was no longer a puppet...he became animated.

regards

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Gravatar what the hell is going on in this stoopit movie on Sci-Fi?

I *think* we've got bloodsucking lizards with lasers and rocketpacks, but I'm not 100% sure.


GravatarOh, well. fy, I guess I'd better take on some more students. I'm also going to disfigure a picture of your god, Ralph Nader. I'm going to do horrible things to it, fy. And I'm going to compose derrisive songs on the BVR. You will figure in them. Your god won't be pleased. He hates being ridiculed.


GravatarAhhhh, I knew there were many fellow AD&Ders here.

I still have original Player's Handbooks and DM Guides hiding in a closet. I think I still have at least one MM as well.


GravatarMoonbats! What's going on?


GravatarSpeaking of the film vs. digital debate, a serious photographer told me recently that he, and many other serious BW photographers and film makers think that digital BW doesn't begin to approach BW film and they're not sure it ever will.




Sounds right. B/W grain in film is very important to the overall tone. Shooting with 100 speed can't be easily copied with digital.

.


Gravatara serious photographer told me recently that he, and many other serious BW photographers and film makers think that digital BW doesn't begin to approach BW film and they're not sure it ever will.
four legs good


Yawn . . . every time there is a technology shift, the old guard takes this position.

When wet plates were replaced with dry, Matthew Brady said this to William Henry Jackson.

When Eastman came up with orthochromatic film, Jackson turned his nose up.

When panchromatic replaced ortho, same argument.

Dye transfer prints vs. silver prints vs. gelatin prints.


It's a bogus argument. Each medium is different, and the goal is not simply to mimic the previous one.

Digital IS different. It has different strengths, and different weaknesses.

Use whatever medium allows you to express what's in your mind.


Gravatari'm not going to go back and read the whole thread, so i'll just assume that everyone agrees the trolls are getting dumber, film beats digital, watertiger looks great in whipped cream, and marcia is flirting with me.

well, i can dream, can't i?


GravatarDid anyone mention that Ralph Nader is a goat-blowing assclown?


Gravatar'Enkew.
The hurtingness is slowly resolving into soreness. Irish is a good remedy. Arthur was better this time than the last time he did something like this to me. He actually let us go back into the house without resistence.

Can I please retire now? I'm pretty obviously not safe out any more.

Or at least somebody bring me a couple of Subway subs with everything on them?


Gravatarres ipsa loquitur is a troll, not a real lawyer, is a 15yo boy, and really just a mean, mean gunky.


Gravataroh, and sci-fi movies have sucked ever since 'dune' came out on the big screen.


GravatarPity the Greens: they have the worst spokesman on earth, fy.
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GravatarLedeen:
The exciting thing about Pajamas is that the blogosphere will, for the first time, come pre-filtered. Blogs will come to people, and they’ll have a high degree of reliability. It’s obvious that in some period of time, the good blogs are going to compel the mainstream media to change the way they do business. And my heart goes out to people who think they can beat this. You can’t beat it. You have to be in it. So I’m delighted to be involved in this thing.

You hear that? You can't beat PJM's filtering process. Make a note you guys -you have to be in it.


GravatarOkay. Let the pillory-ing begin.
res ipsa loquitur






T'would be the very definition of boring if we were all the same. I love it, but it has to be a certain quality. I don't like a lot of sci-fi because it's strictly formula genre fiction. But quality science fiction/fantasy literature is where some of the best fiction being written today can be found, IMO.

I'm amazed at the quality of the writing in a number of graphic novels, too.

Tell me what you like, Res.


GravatarAhhhh, I knew there were many fellow AD&Ders here.


Now THAT was my area of Geekdom in the ol' days.

I was always the Dungeon Master -- never really got to play, did all the frickin' work.


GravatarOkay...it's established. I'm going to the show dressed like a lumberjack/bindlestiff/lesbian. Maybe I should put on some eyeliner, just in case.

Or too much?


GravatarAnd speaking of money. It's time for me to put on my tuxedo and toil playing awful music for two hours. I hate holiday party season.

Don't let the Lie-fy annoy you too much. Friends.


GravatarBush Administration Laying Groundwork for Significant Troop Pullout From Iraq
November 26th, 2005

The pressure has been on for the Bush administration to begin drawing down the troops from Iraq. From John Kerry’s speech at Georgetown late last month, to the fracas the ensued from Murtha’s plan in the House, to Biden’s OP/ED in today’s WaPO, it’s becoming increasing difficult for the Bush administration to ignore the calls.

The L.A. Times reports that “President Bush will give a major speech Wednesday at the U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis, Md., in which aides say he is expected to herald the improved readiness of Iraqi troops, which he has identified as the key condition for pulling out U.S. forces.”

http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.c...ily.com/? p=1249


Gravatar"Star Wars is NOT sci-fi."

It, along w/Tolkein, may be myth for a myth-starved culture, though.


GravatarDid anyone mention that Ralph Nader is a goat-blowing assclown?




GravatarAccording to Joseph Campbell, the original trilogy modernized themes of the father-quest, as in the Odessey.
Marcia Brady ∞ | 11.26.05 - 5:58 pm | #

Wasn't it an update of the Hero's quest?


GravatarAs long as Sci Fi Channel has Battlestar Galactica on Friday night, they can run any stupid "B" movie they wish.
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GravatarWhen I think of sci-fi movies, I tend to think more along the lines of 2001 & Blade Runner.

I have never seen "Blade Runner," but "2001" made me want to shoot myself in the head. And it's not a Kubrick thing, because I like "Strangelove," "The Shining," "Barry Lyndon," "Lolita," and "Full Metal Jacket"* a lot.

*First half of "Full Metal Jacket."


Gravatar"I hate both. I hated "Lord of the Rings."

/ducks
res ipsa loquitur"

i thought the scenery was very nice, and the costumes and sound...but sci-fi i just don't get...


Gravatar Ahhhh, I knew there were many fellow AD&Ders here.

Sold my books, but still have the dice. Wait... I think there is a monsters compendium around here somewhere...


I still have all my 1st Ed. books, which actually makes me popular with the teens I sometimes battle with. They think the "old shit" is cool.

I never got many dates in HS or college.


Gravatardude where's my car is on.

we met david herman, and when my daughter brought up this film, he offered to refund her ticket price. says he does that for anyone who has seen it.

she's seen it about 30 times, though, he wouldn't cough up that much. i actually kinda like it.


GravatarHecate! Great new seed catalogue - www.heriloomacresseeds.com I get a lot of stuff from them, very good stuff.


GravatarAhhhh, I knew there were many fellow AD&Ders here.

I still have original Player's Handbooks and DM Guides hiding in a closet. I think I still have at least one MM as well.
BlakNo1


I still have many of those things and my never finished Epic campaign that felt like a doctoral thesis.

Look at all the crinkly yellowed graph paper!


GravatarI was always the Dungeon Master -- never really got to play, did all the frickin' work.



Cool. Each group I knew seemed to have one person who was a natural DM. Not so with me, I liked to cause trouble as a thief-

Playing evil adventures as a thief was a fucking riot.

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Gravatarres ipsa loquitur is a troll, not a real lawyer, is a 15yo boy, and really just a mean, mean gunky.

Well, that's one less guest at YOUR dinner, friend.


GravatarDanny Elfman (god I love Oingo and his sound overall)

Was listening to "Wait Wait Don't Tell Me" today - they used "Weird Science" as a segue. It's been YEARS.


You're going to miss me when I kill myself.
NTodd


Don't make me choose, man. It's not a competition you can win.


GravatarIt, along w/Tolkien, may be myth for a myth-starved culture, though.

Oh yes, for sure.


Gravatar Blade runner is a great film.
four legs good


Oh man, yeah, it is.


GravatarYou can’t beat it. You have to be in it. So I’m delighted to be involved in this thing.

At least they stopped jerking off.


Gravatarmarcia is flirting with me.

well, i can dream, can't i?
dirk gently, sociopathetic


All these married men.
Damn my luck.


Gravatari met a guy a few years ago that makes these huge format pics, and he told me he used this ancient-style view camera...mahagany frame, leather(i think) bellows, sheet over the head-type deal...he told me there are still a few people out there making them in little one-man businesses, which made me feel real good as i make outdated technology for a living...it's nice to know people like that are out there, imo...i met a guy a few years ago that makes these huge format pics, and he told me he used this ancient-style view camera...mahagany frame, leather(i think) bellows, sheet over the head-type deal...he told me there are still a few people out there making them in little one-man businesses, which made me feel real good as i make outdated technology for a living...it's nice to know people like that are out there, imo...

Reading that makes me feel real old. I remember watching a local photographer take group photos with that equipment.


GravatarDid anyone mention that Ralph Nader is a goat-blowing assclown?

Ralph Trader took $1 million from the RNC to run against Gore in 2000.

Avian flu is too good for Ralph.
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GravatarI actually get where you're coming from, res. I don't *hate* all sci-fi, but find most of it so insulting to intelligence that I pass it by.


GravatarOOOHHHhhh, GWPDA, I'll have to check it out. I love seed catalogs.


GravatarAmerican Graffiti?
flory,


Damn, flory, I totally forgot that he directed that. You're right - I love that movie. Something happened along the way.


Gravatar oh, and sci-fi movies have sucked ever since 'dune' came out on the big screen.

Well, 'cept for the concrete interpretation of The Weirding Way, the Lynch stuff was fun. I love how the Guild ships move.

Funny, I just watched the SFC mini, Children of Dune, which a reader got me on DVD. I liked it, and hope they make a God Emperor mini. That was the last Dune book worth caring about, though I generally make it through the whole cycle ever few years.


GravatarAll these married men.
Damn my luck.


Yoohoo! Remember me?


GravatarWasn't it an update of the Hero's quest?
SHG have stickhorse will trave


Yeah. Campbell specifically likened Luke to Telemachus, to whom Athena said, "Go find your father."


GravatarI'm out. I'll write my review of Echo and the Bunnymen tomorrow.

Love y'all.


GravatarAs long as Sci Fi Channel has Battlestar Galactica on Friday night, they can run any stupid "B" movie they wish.

Indeed.

And yes, Full Metal Jacket would've been a great short if they ended it "right there".


GravatarYawn . . . every time there is a technology shift, the old guard takes this position.


No, the two film makers who were saying this have fully embraced digital.

It was a serious discussion about BW photography.


GravatarDon't make me choose, man. It's not a competition you can win.

(inspects fingernails, buffs them on shirt, reinspects them)

do you prefer plain or flavored whipped cream, jac?


Gravatarntodd, i found the sci-fi channel version of 'dune' far superior to the big film.

likewise 'the shining'.

haven't seen children of dune.


GravatarJar Jar Binks? Please.

But Jar Jar was the star of the show! That's how friggin' bad it was...
That's where I swore off Star Wars.


GravatarCiao, Zap!


Gravatar...when my daughter brought up this film, he offered to refund her ticket price. says he does that for anyone who has seen it.

I want a buck each from Robin Williams, Twiggy, Peter O'toole and some SCTV person chosen at random. For Club Paradise. I was ready to leave within 15 minutes so I could get my money back but my ride had hope for it, until about 15 minutes later.


GravatarGood as gold.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar

Thank you. It's for Prof. Bunny's class.
Marcia Brady ∞


Figured. Wanta have fun? Find something relevant (I know you can) in gwpda.org and cite according to MLA standards. Hell, cite me.

The fear of my dotage - that Bunny-Bunny's babies will decide that ASU is a fine, fine school and they'll just save a bit of money by 'staying with Auntie GWPDA.' I do not share my street address.


GravatarAll these married men.
Damn my luck.
Marcia Brady


Yeah, but NTodd says we're expected to fool around.


GravatarI think it's perfectly possible to like both sci-fi big budget films and serious film.

Indeed. People who act like they should be handed a medal for disliking a film that happens to be a popular success are simply being pretentious. Looking down on the likes of a Lucas or a Spielberg doesn't automatically make you a person of respectable taste.


GravatarHas anyone seen "Me and You and Everyone We Know"?


GravatarSpeaking of sci-fi, the actor that played Dr. Bashir on Deep Space Nine is in Syriana and is very, very good.


GravatarI have never seen "Blade Runner," but "2001" made me want to shoot myself in the head.

Precisely what I liked about it.

But then, I agree with Johannes Climacus: "A thinker without paradox is like a lover without feeling -- a paltry mediocrity."


GravatarTell me what you like, Res.

Here are 10 movies I like a lot. Not my 10 faves, just ones I can think of off the top of my head:

1) The Godfather I & II
2) Dr. Strangelove
3) The Searchers
4) The Third Man
5) Jaws
6) Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid
7) A Room with a View
Goodfellas
9) The Shining
10) Lawrence of Arabia


GravatarYoohoo! Remember me?
Eli


Umm, vaguely. Refresh my memory? Are you the one with the girlfriend? Or the one who picks times to come to NY when I'll be conveniently out of state...


Gravatari found the sci-fi channel version of 'dune' far superior to the big film.

If you liked it, you'll like "children" as well.


Gravatar"I still have all my 1st Ed. books, which actually makes me popular with the teens I sometimes battle with. They think the "old shit" is cool.

I never got many dates in HS or college.
NTodd'

yeah, go figure...


GravatarAnn Althouse is rumored to have written a sci fi script she's whoring to cable.

Working title is: Martian Feminists Have 3 Tits.
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GravatarIt, along w/Tolkein, may be myth for a myth-starved culture, though.
Hecate Malificent


Oh, my God. Beautifully said.


GravatarFootie pj media can blow me.


What a bunch of pretentious, idiotic wankers.


GravatarThat was the last Dune book worth caring about, though I generally make it through the whole cycle ever few years.
NTodd | Email | Homepage | 11.26.05 - 6:07 pm | #


As do I. But I was always sorry that he never really got around to developing the dark witches as well as he did the Bene Gesserit. The "Bene" in their name kind of gave it away. Which version was it that shows the Bene Gesserit Mother Superior in a cage turning over those very interesting tarot-like cards just before she's executed? That always haunted me.


GravatarIt, along w/Tolkein, may be myth for a myth-starved culture, though.

We're not myth-starved. That's a myth. No, really. We create our own myths, and Lucas, Tolkien, et alia, simply provided the fodder.

I have never seen "Blade Runner,"

Lovely film, even the much-derided theatrical release. Moody. I dig post-apocalyptic, dystopian shit, though.

"2001" made me want to shoot myself in the head. And it's not a Kubrick thing, because I like "Strangelove," "The Shining," "Barry Lyndon," "Lolita," and "Full Metal Jacket"* a lot.

*First half of "Full Metal Jacket."


2001 wasn't really Kubrick so much as Clarke, though it had Stanley's obsessive attention to detail. But really, what's wrong with FMJ second half?


GravatarHas anyone seen "Me and You and Everyone We Know"?

I will have seen in by 11 PM tonight, as it is sitting right here next to me waiting to be popped in the DVD player.


GravatarAll these married men.
Damn my luck.
Marcia Brady ∞ | 11.26.05 - 6:05 pm | #


yeah, me too

if only i were a lying cad, you'd never have to know!

but then i'd have to vote republican, so you wouldn't be interested anyway.


GravatarIi>do you prefer plain or flavored whipped cream, jac?
watertiger

I'd like aTaste test. In situ, as it were.



GravatarWell, anyway...


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GravatarFigured. Wanta have fun? Find something relevant (I know you can) in gwpda.org and cite according to MLA standards. Hell, cite me.

GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar


That is too perfect. This will happen.


GravatarBut then, I agree with Johannes Climacus: "A thinker without paradox is like a lover without feeling -- a paltry mediocrity."

RJM,

Where do you find these gems? That one's going in my journal.


Gravatar I do not share my street address.


Not even with me and lion kitty?


What if Mr. Plushy wants to visit Arthur? or are you afraid they'll run off with the jeep again?


GravatarFuck Haloscan.

Just sayin'.

(And I got a flashback of "Kissing Jessica Stein" as I typed that last sentence. As it were, per se.)


GravatarUmm, vaguely. Refresh my memory? Are you the one with the girlfriend? Or the one who picks times to come to NY when I'll be conveniently out of state...

Hey, we picked the date before we knew when you were out of town...


Gravatarres ipsa loquitur is a troll, not a real lawyer, is a 15yo boy, and really just a mean, mean gunky.

'Cos I don't like sci-fi/fantasy?

No soup for you!


Gravatarres ipsa based on what you like can I recommend 2 movies?

Gangster #1 with Malcolm McDowell and Persuasion with Ciaran Hinds.


Gravatar1) The Godfather I & II
2) Dr. Strangelove
3) The Searchers
4) The Third Man
5) Jaws
6) Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid
7) A Room with a View
Goodfellas
9) The Shining
10) Lawrence of Arabia


All excellent, don't know about "room" which I've not seen and, I don't care who he's directed by, I'd sooner have a migraine than sit through anything with John Wayne.


GravatarWhere do you find these gems? That one's going in my journal.
Hecate Malificent


I read too damned much.


Gravatar ntodd, i found the sci-fi channel version of 'dune' far superior to the big film.

Oh, absolutely, because they got 6 hours to play with it, and had CGI that expanded their capabilities. But ya gotta respect Lynch's crew using condoms to show the worms innards...


GravatarI will have seen in by 11 PM tonight, as it is sitting right here next to me waiting to be popped in the DVD player.

Mebbe I'll pick it up at Kim's tonight.


GravatarSpeaking of films, a few years back I did some work for the Wisconsin Film Festival and got free tickets. Went to see the original "Meet the Parents"

This was about 7 years before the Stiller version. VERY midwestern and dark-humored.

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GravatarSymptoms of bird flu:

High fever
Body aches
Chills
Headache
Nausea
Vomiting

and










an uncontrollable urge to go outside and shit on someone's windshield.


GravatarBut really, what's wrong with FMJ second half?

Not really anyting wrong with it, I just really liked the first half, i.e., the dehumanization of Pvt. Pyle at the hands of the drill seargant and his fellow soldiers. I thought it was very well done.


GravatarHecate - Oh I think it is myth for a myth-starved culture.

I remember vividly seeing the first one when it came out. I saw it in a theater in Fort Worth, and I was blown away. It hit all the right buttons for me.

And it seemed to have come out of nowhere.


GravatarIt, along w/Tolkein, may be myth for a myth-starved culture, though.
Hecate Malificent


Campbell thought that, too. Along with gangs (ritual and clan-membership).


GravatarI've never understood why anyone would find the made-for-TV version of the Shining preferable to the Kubrick version.

Sure, the Kubrick version doesn't make any sense in a lot of places, and Nicholson plays a charicature. But the movie as a whole succeeds in its creepy atmospherics. The music, the mood, etc.

The TV version just pissed me off - it had all the suspense and timing of a Lifetime movie. I just kept imagining some twit saying, "I can make that movie better than Kubrick did!" No. No, you can't. And you didn't.


Gravatar"Blade runner is a great film"

You forgot to mention the music, dude...it was awesome!

regards

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Gravatardamn, just found out my music teacher at bennington died. gunnar schonbeck, he was 88. i took a dulcimer-building class with him.

fascinating guy. high school graduate only, he taught clarinet at smith college when he was 16. he was well known for building giant instruments, like a 9 foot banjo, and a grand piano made with only one gauge of wire.

the year i was there, he finished "stringing" on of the dance recital halls so that a harmonic hum accompanied the dancers, and built a calliope on the back of a vw beetle.

he was 88. a true eccentric and genius.


GravatarEli,

Here's the exposition.


GravatarThe original Meet the Parents was executive produced by Emo Philips.

http:// www.associatedcontent.com...nt_type_id=4894


GravatarHey, guess what I'm doing?

Something VERY un-Murkin.

I'm repairing a pair of gloves with a tear in the seam, i.e., I am not throwing them away and buying new ones because they were cheap.

I bet I get an FBI file just for admitting to this on a blog.


GravatarSo my daighter asked if her friend, Holly, could spend the night.

To which I answered, "of course."

However, apparently, I am not up to par with Holly's Catholic parents' standards, because they called and asked my some questions about my values, etc. I was honest. [Dumb me.] I am pro-choice, not anti-choice. I am a liberal, not a conservative. Stuff like that.

{I inhale! They didn't ask me that, but they bloody well should have.)

And now, Audrey is asking if she can spend the night at Holly's, because they won't let Holly stay here. "They are more comfortable with her at home."

Stigma for believing in true freedom abounds.


Gravatar OOOHHHhhh, GWPDA, I'll have to check it out. I love seed catalogs.
Hecate Malificent


I order from them online all the time - this is actually a surprise hardcopy. They'll send you one if you ask. Lots of stuff you'll never see in Burpee's. Oooooh! I snagged Martha Washington asparagus at the nursery today, in full asparagusness. Will put them in tomorrow. After my head doesnt hurt. Also, the calla lillies are in bloom again.


GravatarYou forgot to mention the music, dude...it was awesome!

Yes it was.

And I like both versions of the film.


GravatarHere's the exposition.

Wow. Aliens.

Never would have guessed that.


GravatarBack to film ... 2 questions: has anyone ever made a good film about:

a) The American revolution?
b) Napoleon?


GravatarI heard someone on AA say that bird flu needed a new name, and suggested chirpes instead.


Gravatar2001 wasn't really Kubrick so much as Clarke, though it had Stanley's obsessive attention to detail.

It struck me the other day that Clarke has a fascination with apocalypse that is almost, well, mythological.

If not deeply Christian, somehow.

"2001." "Childhood's End." Dial 'F' for Frankenstein." "The Nine Billion Names of God." Even "The Star."

Several others, as well. The guy's got a real "thing" for endings, usually on an almost cosmic scale.


Gravatarwatertiger -

You've got mail.

(Nothing important.)


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GravatarExcuse those typos in the last post.

I don't know what has come over my fingers...


GravatarNTodd,

I think many people fail to create their own myths. Like so many other things, some people are great at creating (perhaps a better word is channeling) myths than others. Modern America has one myth which is that if you get on tv, you'll be famous and happy and rich. People can't relate to Hercules or Persophone or Psyche, so, unless they can create/channel myths on their own, they get only what America gives them. Tolkein and Lucas at least found ways to tap into mythical archetypes in ways that many people can find worth exploring.


Gravatar"I still have all my 1st Ed. books, which actually makes me popular with the teens I sometimes battle with. They think the "old shit" is cool.

I never got many dates in HS or college.
NTodd'



In college I allowed myself to be seduced by a 8th level Elf Illusionist.

Until she was a 12th Level Elf Illusionist.

I should have known better, she was Chaotic/Nuetral.


GravatarHowever, apparently, I am not up to par with Holly's Catholic parents' standards, because they called and asked my some questions about my values, etc. I was honest. [Dumb me.] I am pro-choice, not anti-choice. I am a liberal, not a conservative. Stuff like that.


Are you fucking kidding me? the kids parents called and quizzed you about your fucking "values"?

I'd have said "NONE OF YOUR FUCKING BUSINESS"


GravatarI've never understood why anyone would find the made-for-TV version of the Shining preferable to the Kubrick version.

Apparently big Stephen King fans find the teevee version truer to the book.


Gravatarkubrick also directed eyes wide shut, which may be what killed him.

the reason i liked the sci-fi shining better is simply that i loved the book, and was able to replay it in my head to the movie. plus both nicholson and duvall were highly annoying.


GravatarI don't know what has come over my fingers...

probably just whipped cream.


GravatarAnd now, Audrey is asking if she can spend the night at Holly's, because they won't let Holly stay here. "They are more comfortable with her at home."

Stigma for believing in true freedom abounds.
Vicki


Oh. My. Fucking. GOD.

I'm packing my 14-year-old's things right now and sending her to your house. You would be good for her.


GravatarApparently big Stephen King fans find the teevee version truer to the book.
res ipsa loquitur | 11.26.05 - 6:18 pm | #


see?


GravatarAll these married men.
Damn my luck.
Marcia Brady

Yeah, but NTodd says we're expected to fool around.


I'm not fooling around with you! I meant that NTodd gets to fool around, since he has a copy of the memo. You go fetch us some punch.

I never got many dates in HS or college.
NTodd'

yeah, go figure...


Well, there's another person scratched off my Xmas card list.

Which version was it that shows the Bene Gesserit Mother Superior in a cage turning over those very interesting tarot-like cards just before she's executed? That always haunted me.

Children of Dune.

I like the stuff after God Emperor, in that it shows the logical progression of the Universe, and the vacuum left when you destroy a prescient ruler, but it all left me feeling empty. Perhaps the way people would feel in eras after those which were great, but it was sort of the Pathetic Fallacy.

Ann Althouse is rumored to have written a sci fi script she's whoring to cable.

Working title is: Martian Feminists Have 3 Tits.


I'm recommending to NASA that we send Annie to Mars to search for oxygen.


GravatarTPM is where it's at. That could be a huge true newsbreaking/reporting website.

I think that's what Josh has in mind, hiring a reporter, and opening up yet another TPM blog. TPM is truly becoming the blog that ate Chicago. Or new York...


GravatarBeautiful night here in flyover country. I"m eschewing the movies to get the telescope out.

Anybody up for viewing Mars or the Pliades in about a half hour?


GravatarWorking title is: Martian Feminists Have 3 Tits.
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Dartanyon

Is one on the back for dancing?


Gravatarspork,

mail back!


GravatarMebbe I'll pick it up at Kim's tonight.

I just got it from Kim's! I think it was the only one they had.


GravatarI think many people fail to create their own myths. Like so many other things, some people are great at creating (perhaps a better word is channeling) myths than others. Modern America has one myth which is that if you get on tv, you'll be famous and happy and rich. People can't relate to Hercules or Persophone or Psyche, so, unless they can create/channel myths on their own, they get only what America gives them. Tolkein and Lucas at least found ways to tap into mythical archetypes in ways that many people can find worth exploring.

My observation is that most people have a personal mythology in which they're the hero. No matter how lame or despicable they may be. And they act accordingly, which is why there are so many assholes.


GravatarUm Robert Mitchum and Cape Fear are on TCM.


GravatarMichael Baron weighs in:

Another reason I welcome this is that I am dismayed over a mainstream media whose people are about 90% Democrats. That is just plain asymmetrical! Most try to do a fair job, yet their coverage has an obvious tilt. We hear all these pretensions about being objective? Come on! Liberals and conservatives just don't see the world working the same way, and journalists tend to find the stories where they look for them. And frankly, not all journalists try their darndest.

Wow I can't wait to read a "Blog consolidator" who wants to correct the liberal slant of the media.


GravatarMichael Baron weighs in:

Another reason I welcome this is that I am dismayed over a mainstream media whose people are about 90% Democrats. That is just plain asymmetrical! Most try to do a fair job, yet their coverage has an obvious tilt. We hear all these pretensions about being objective? Come on! Liberals and conservatives just don't see the world working the same way, and journalists tend to find the stories where they look for them. And frankly, not all journalists try their darndest.

Wow I can't wait to read a "Blog consolidator" who wants to correct the liberal slant of the media.


GravatarAnybody up for viewing Mars or the Pliades in about a half hour?

I'll get the hot cocoa and blankets.


Gravatarbig Stephen King fans find the teevee version truer to the book.

It is. However, it still sucks.

The Kubrick version, although it's not the real deal by any means, is still way better. Gee, I wonder why.


Gravatarres ipsa asks:

Back to film ... 2 questions: has anyone ever made a good film about:

a) The American revolution?
b) Napoleon?


a) Does 1776 count? It's fun.

b) Yes. Abel Gance. Napoleon. Brilliant French silent flick.


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GravatarApparently big Stephen King fans find the teevee version truer to the book.
res ipsa loquitur


Which is not a recommendation for the TV version, IMHO.


GravatarUmm, vaguely. Refresh my memory? Are you the one with the girlfriend? Or the one who picks times to come to NY when I'll be conveniently out of state...

Hey, we picked the date before we knew when you were out of town...


I wonder if Marcia's around when I visit the week of 12/12...


GravatarAnybody up for viewing Mars or the Pliades in about a half hour?

I'll get the hot cocoa and blankets.
watertiger


Oh cool, we'll make smores and take pictures of each others feet!


GravatarI just got it from Kim's! I think it was the only one they had.

Hah! Guess I'll get Season 2 of "Cracker."


GravatarModern America has one myth which is that if you get on tv, you'll be famous and happy and rich.
Hecate Malificent


Another enduring myth is that we are a classless society (as in socially mobile, not just tacky) from the time of Tocqueville through Hartz.

Powerful and often dangerous. Also the "we don't like war" myth that allows us to believe that, any time we make war, we are doing so as a last resort.


GravatarLiberals and conservatives just don't see the world working the same way, and journalists tend to find the stories where they look for them.

So, conservatives are from Mars, liberals are from....

why am I even paying attention to someone this stupid?


GravatarStephen King put Maine on the map, which was really uncalled for.


Gravatarreally GOOD sci-fi flick?

"dark star"

super low budget, john carpenter's first film. i think he did it in college.

hard to find.


GravatarVicki,

You have GOT to be shitting me!


GravatarAnd now, Audrey is asking if she can spend the night at Holly's, because they won't let Holly stay here. "They are more comfortable with her at home."

wow, those parents sound more than just catholics.


GravatarI met Stephen King once, really nice guy.


Gravatar
Anybody up for viewing Mars or the Pliades in about a half hour?



I am!

Mars has been looking pretty lately, I might have to check on Venus as well.

You gonna put up some pictures?

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Gravatara) The American revolution?
b) Napoleon?
res ipsa loquitur | 11.26.05 - 6:16 pm | #

I saw Abel Gance's Napoleon (silent) back in the early 80's at the Shrine Auditorium with a live orchestra. What a wonderful experience. That was a truly good film.

Does anyone think that The Usual Suspects was a great movie?


GravatarAttaturk sez:

Beautiful night here in flyover country. I"m eschewing the movies to get the telescope out.

Cooool. Up in my attic I have a Celestron 5". Haven't used it in a long while. Into my teens I fancied myself quite the astronomer.


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GravatarOh cool, we'll make smores and take pictures of each others feet!

Toes are freshly painted, too.


Gravatar Beautiful night here in flyover country. I"m eschewing the movies to get the telescope out.

if you have to eschew them, you haven't boiled them long enough.


GravatarStigma for believing in true freedom abounds.

Motherfuckers. Holy shit.


GravatarAll these married men.
Damn my luck.
Marcia Brady



HERE!!! OVER HERE!!!!
(waving frantically...pauses/considers...disrobes...grasps pants...waves same enthusiastically...)


Gravatar"dark star"

Truly, a bomb that is too smart for it's own good. Nice HAL parody.


GravatarWell, y'all could have poor Holly's parents.

I answered the questions because I'm honest. Fuck them if they don't get it.

I have never liked that kid all that well, either.

Audrey knows why, too. But I still share the love like the good socialist that I am...


GravatarmY dad is a big fan of Alien yet i still cannot watch the movie.


Gravatarsuper low budget, john carpenter's first film. i think he did it in college.

hard to find.


Have it. Wasn't that hard, really...


GravatarAnybody up for viewing Mars or the Pliades in about a half hour?

I'll get the hot cocoa and blankets.


Oh, me, me, me, me, me! I'll bring hot buttered rum and wooly socks!


GravatarI wonder if Marcia's around when I visit the week of 12/12...
NTodd


Yes, but you guys are killing me with all this December stuff.

I have a 7,000 word paper due in my "Democracy and Inequality in Latin America" class, and I don't speak Spanish and I'm not an economist. I'm beginning to get a little stressed.

Is anything happening after the New Year?


GravatarYou will be broke soon. Another dollar please!!
fy


You can't break me, you simp. I'm in on the $ to the DNC also.

Jizz boy.


Gravatardirk - yeah, the TV version IS closer to the book, but so what? When I want something closer to the book I ....READ THE BOOK. It's an overall failure as a movie. I'm sure part of the reason I'm not real hung up on how closely the Kubrick version followed the book is that I saw the movie before reading the book. So I had the Kubrick image of the dead woman in the bathtub to inform my later reading of the book. And you know how much damn creepier that was in the Kubrick film. So as far as I'm concerned, Stan's still the Man when it comes to "who made the better movie?"


GravatarToes are freshly painted, too.
watertiger | Email | Homepage | 11.26.05 - 6:23 pm | #


you always know what to say to prevent me from sleeping all night.


GravatarDoes anyone think that The Usual Suspects was a great movie?

I do, I do!


Gravatarexcuse the mispelling just have drunke a botte an a half of red wine

i know it is bad but it is such yummmy vinto tinto.


GravatarI'm not fooling around with you!
NTodd



And there was MUCH rejoicing.


(yay . . .)


Unless your name is Zoot or Dingo.


GravatarToes are freshly painted, too.

Mine, too! But I've said too much...


GravatarHoo boy. The lizard alien is going to get the universal translator to speak Lizard Alien.


GravatarVicki, that's just weird. Making sure you don't do drugs in front of (or with) their child, sure. Did they think the girls would get pregnant tonight and you'd drive them to a clinic for a Sat night abortion?

Are you sure you want your daughter around those people?


Gravatar
Cooool. Up in my attic I have a Celestron 5". Haven't used it in a long while. Into my teens I fancied myself quite the astronomer.


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spork_incident


You should get that sucker out Spork, those are great little scopes, especially if it is the old table top model.


Gravatari love you all!


GravatarDoes anyone think that The Usual Suspects was a great movie?

I think watertiger may be Keyser Soze.


Gravatar(waving frantically...pauses/considers...disrobes...grasps pants...waves same enthusiastically...)
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar


What's the hurry? How about a nice kiss on the cheek?


GravatarAnd now, Audrey is asking if she can spend the night at Holly's, because they won't let Holly stay here. "They are more comfortable with her at home."


Who wants to bet that they'll make Holly feel uncomfortable.

Though I have a feeling that Holly can stand up for herself.

Jeepers H Xmas.
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GravatarThey are more comfortable with her at home."


Yeah, cuz you might give her an abortion whether she needed it or not.

Just wait until this chick turns 18. It's always the most repressed kids who rebel the hardest.


GravatarStigma for believing in true freedom abounds.
Vicki


Jesus fucking Christ. The only questions I ever asked is will there be grownups present and what time should I pick her up. That is really, really sick. I don't know if I would let my kid spend the night there. They will probably try and convert her.


Gravatarfucking hell - these OSM people are hysterical. I can't stay away from them.


GravatarAnd you know how much damn creepier that was in the Kubrick film. So as far as I'm concerned, Stan's still the Man when it comes to "who made the better movie?"

oh, yes, the effects and direction on that sort of thing were great. pieces of the movie were genius.

but he totally wasted the talent of every principal actor in the film. nicholson was awful. shelly was awful. scatman was totally wasted. the kid was totally forgettable.

he's done better.


GravatarMine, too! But I've said too much...
NTodd


If you're wearing eyeliner, I'm catching the next train to Vermont...


Gravatarwatertiger, I wish I were shitting you. This is Grand Rapids. "Morality" knows no bounds.


Gravatari am a big fan of the Usual Suspects, an excellemt movie!


GravatarIs anything happening after the New Year?

I think there's some kind of MST3K thing up on Liberal Mountain, but they haven't set a date yet, so I'm probably going to have to skip it (I need lead time for plane tix and all). Not that you'd mind.


GravatarToes are freshly painted, too.
watertiger



You know your public DEMANDS you submit a pic by Tuesday morning to Dr. Atta J. Turk, Podiatrist to the Stars.


GravatarStigma for believing in true freedom abounds.
Vicki


My best friend from the age of 4 until I was about 13, lived two doors down from me. Her parents were fundies - Church of Christ. They didn't approve of my parents, either. My friend's mother sent her down to my house one day to tell me my mom and dad were going to hell; I can't remember now what precipitated that.

Anyway, I suppose for your daughter's sake, you didn't feel like telling the woman to go to hell, it was none of her business. But it sure would be tempting. My parents pretty much ignored my friend's parents altogether and they did likewise.


GravatarJust wait until this chick turns 18. It's always the most repressed kids who rebel the hardest.
Hecate Malificent


I was just thinking "Most Likely To Be Pregnant Before College".

And/or busted for possession.

Can't hide her from the world forever.


GravatarI hated the ending of the Usual Suspects.
Felt like I was cheated.

The Devil's Disciple was a very good movie about the Revolutionary War.


GravatarDoes anyone think that The Usual Suspects was a great movie?
SHG have stickhorse will trave | 11.26.05 - 6:23 pm


that Napoleon! incroyable!

the usual suspects a 'great movie'?

a masterpiece of a genre? it's great on tv, so that sensibility probably informs it at a foundational level. that it is so taut and seemingly plausible uninterrupted is testament to its internal coherence and cohesion...
i liked it a lot...
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Gravatar i love you all!
Moonbootica | Email | Homepage | 11.26.05 - 6:26 pm | #


even the married ones? we seem to have a stigma attached....


GravatarKubrick could've made a Cheech Y Chong-esque stoner comedy, titled it "The Shining", and it still would've been a great movie.


GravatarIf you're wearing eyeliner, I'm catching the next train to Vermont...

Gimme a minute, dear.


GravatarIt's all cloudy and damp here. I don't even wanna go out cause then I'll have to bring the tent in and deal with the charcoal grill I knocked over in the dark last night.

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GravatarIt's all cloudy and damp here. I don't even wanna go out cause then I'll have to bring the tent in and deal with the charcoal grill I knocked over in the dark last night.

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GravatarOh, me, me, me, me, me! I'll bring hot buttered rum and wooly socks!

YAY! And then we can take pictures of Hecate's feet!


Gravatarfucking hell - these OSM people are hysterical. I can't stay away from them.

You read OSM, so we don't have to.


GravatarDoes anyone think that The Usual Suspects was a great movie?

I didn't like the "miracle" ending, where the crippled guy gets well all of a sudden.


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Oh, me, me, me, me, me! I'll bring hot buttered rum and wooly socks!
Hecate Malificent


Mmmmmmmmm, buttered rum and two babes.


GravatarJust wait until this chick turns 18. It's always the most repressed kids who rebel the hardest.
Hecate Malificent


This kid has not been able to go without a boyfriend since she was 14. There is some weird shit there. My daughter and I have discussed it.

I'm sure people back whisper about me because I'm vocally liberal. I'm published locally. I have a mouth and I use it. I don't care. Proud of it.


GravatarDoes anyone think that The Usual Suspects was a great movie?
SHG



*hand raised*


Swimming Pool. Well worth your time.


Gravatar{{{Vicki}}}


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GravatarI don't know if I would let my kid spend the night there. They will probably try and convert her.
QL in NY | Email | Homepage | 11.26.05 - 6:27 pm | #


that's why i would let mine go. she'd put them in their place!


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Hooly=Audrey in last post.

feh.
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Gravatareven the married ones? we seem to have a stigma attached....

the married ones'll just break your heart, Moonbotica. Best to go for the ones that aren't already attached.


GravatarThanks, HoneyBear!

How're you doing?


GravatarOh, me, me, me, me, me! I'll bring hot buttered rum and wooly socks!

YAY! And then we can take pictures of Hecate's feet!
watertiger


In socks and then a racy, sockless shot.


Gravatar I hated the ending of the Usual Suspects.
Felt like I was cheated.


I like twists. Even if they don't quite make sense based on what the film deigned to show me. Film is inherently a conceit, so why should I be offended?


Gravatari brought Mr and Mrs Smith on DVD today.

which is why i drifted off earlier to watch.

not a bad movie and i must admit angelina jolie is HOT!


GravatarWell Vicki, I found an empty condom wrapper on my bed when I came home from 10 days away at work. Son has a GF now.
I raised an eyebrow at him and said, "so, vee are no longer weergin are vee?".
I don't think I have to ask him to keep his romps to his own room. He's not sure what to make of the lack of screaming.


GravatarMmmmmmmmm, buttered rum and two babes.

it's the fez, darlin.


Gravatar Kubrick could've made a Cheech Y Chong-esque stoner comedy, titled it "The Shining", and it still would've been a great movie.
BlakNo1 | Email | Homepage | 11.26.05 - 6:29 pm | #


ahem.

eyes wide shut.

and i love most of kubrick's work. dr strangelove and clockwork orange are two of my favorites of all time.


GravatarYAY! And then we can take pictures of Hecate's feet!

Hecate has feet?

Huh. I always imagined her floating.


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Gravatareven the married ones? we seem to have a stigma attached....
dirk gently, sociopathetic


Oh, THAT's what you call that...a "stigma"...


GravatarVicki - I think if I were in your shoes, I'd be calling that woman and informing her that my daughter isn't allowed to come to her home, because I can't think of anything more harmful for my child than to be in the presence of people who believe - and have communicated - that I am not a responsible adult and fit parent for her, simply because I don't share all of their beliefs.

Seriously. That's exactly the reason I'd give.


Gravatareven the married ones? we seem to have a stigma attached....
dirk gently


Getting it removed is an outpatient procedure these days.

Prolly get Botoxed at the same time.


Gravatareyes wide shut.

Crap beginning, crap ending, good middle.


Gravatarres ipsa I'm gonna go all cliché and say I'm just taking it one day at a time.

And yourself?

Aren't the bar exam grades coming out soon?


GravatarKubrick could've made a Cheech Y Chong-esque stoner comedy, titled it "The Shining", and it still would've been a great movie.
BlakNo1


That's pretty much my take on Kubrick.

He could have put out bad home movies, and I'd still find them fascinating.

I mean, I even liked "Barry Lyndon."


GravatarEli,

WTF is going on? I completely lost track of the plot of this POS.


GravatarI loved the Usual Suspects.


GravatarIn socks and then a racy, sockless shot.
Attaturk


Oooh, and videotape for the shedding-of-the-socks...


Gravatar"Memento"

excellent flick.


GravatarTHose who liked The Usual Suspects ALSO

REALLY like "Sexy Beast" with Ben Kingsley...

or izzat just me?


GravatarI found an empty condom wrapper on my bed


LOL!!!!!

Not to sneaky, that one.

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GravatarTime for avocado salad and Jamaican meat patties, and red wine.

See ya'll tomorrow.


GravatarPardon me, your fez is familiar.

(Sorry but it's a classic.)


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Gravatar i bought Mr and Mrs Smith on DVD today.
Moonbootica



Fun movie. We really enjoyed it.


GravatarI mean, I even liked "Barry Lyndon."

I'll probably see it again someday.


GravatarHecate has feet?

Huh. I always imagined her floating.


She does have that ethereal quality about her. But I think she has her feet FIRMLY planted on the ground.


GravatarWTF is going on? I completely lost track of the plot of this POS.

Apparently the Predator alien is a good alien and just wants to go home. But the slimy bloodsucking aliens are still bad.

And there's some kind of secret alien research facility where one of the bad aliens just escaped and then got blowed up. And Our Hero is stressed.


GravatarWell Vicki, I found an empty condom wrapper on my bed when I came home from 10 days away at work. Son has a GF now.
I raised an eyebrow at him and said, "so, vee are no longer weergin are vee?".
I don't think I have to ask him to keep his romps to his own room. He's not sure what to make of the lack of screaming.


I think I've told this story before, but when my son reached puberty, I showed him the box under the bed, said, "This is where we keep the condoms and we don't count them."

He's 32 and expecting his first child this March.

Americans need to grow up about sex. People have sex. Always have. Given modern nutrition and the hormones they shoot into our food, people mature sexually very early. They need to know how to prevent pregnancy until they are ready to have children. Period.


GravatarWoodyGuthrie'sGuitar i liked it also

awesom seeing Gahandi saty cunt is all i can say!!


GravatarKubrick's Lolita isn't much like the book, either. But even Nabokov liked the it, though he said it was not a movie of his book.

I love the movie, too. I think James Mason is a delicious Humbert Humbert, but it's Sellers who makes that movie for me. He's not the Clare Quilty of the book - he's an invention right out of Sellers' and Kubrick's heads. He's a great character.


GravatarWGG,

I loved "Sexy Beast." Friend I went to see it with fell asleep about 5 minutes in.

then again, I suspect he's narcoleptic.


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Is BlakNo1 back from the store yet, I haven't seen my beer!!

/tapping foot nervously
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GravatarOooh, and videotape for the shedding-of-the-socks...
Marcia Brady ∞ | 11.26.05 - 6:33 pm | #


you know, i was born married. more or less. back then i figured i better grab the first one who didn't run screaming.

not that i regret our choice, but ....

*sigh*

the shedding of the socks?


GravatarWhat's up everyone? From the Apple Store in SF!


Gravatarres,

Repairing a tear in the seam of a glove ain't nothing.

I have a special harness set-up for a sportsbottle complete with carabiner. Unfortunately here in Europe I can't find a sportsbottle to fit it. So I've had to improvise.

The "bottle" I found is a tad bit too thick so I looped a coil of climbing rope around a concrete post and with a little soapy water and constant pressure I slipped the harness onto the bottle.

Everyone thinks I'm crazy for trying to fit bottle to the hardness. Someone told me I should go out and buy another harness with a bottle.

Sad fact is Americans have become too at ease with purchasing ready-to-wear, ready-to-eat, and ready-to-use. We seem to have forgotten how to repair what's broken and improvise when the need arises.

Enjoy your needlework.

regards

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GravatarI mean, I even liked "Barry Lyndon."

yup...


GravatarIs BlakNo1 back from the store yet, I haven't seen my beer!!

Are you kidding? I haven't even gone yet!!!


GravatarRMJ - Kubrick had the best sound tracks to his movies of any director ever. The soundtrack to Barry Lyndon is one of my favorites. The Women of Ireland could break my heart.

I really liked that movie, too. I need to see it again.


Gravatarso I'm probably going to have to skip it (I need lead time for plane tix and all). Not that you'd mind.
Eli


Huh?


GravatarI saw Abel Gance's Napoleon (silent) back in the early 80's at the Shrine Auditorium with a live orchestra. What a wonderful experience. That was a truly good film.

spork & SHG ... Believe it or not, Netflix actually carries two Abel Gance films ("Louise" and "LUcrezia Borgia"), but not "Napoleon." My local video place may have it, though. They have a pretty good selection of stuff like that.

I will check. Thanks.

You know Kubrick was planning one on Napoleon? Apparently, he died w/thousands of index cards cataloging events of Napoloen's life in his office.


GravatarOkay, could everybody please stop posting for about 10 minutes?

BRB.


GravatarFor those who haven't seen it:

Reefer Madness: The Movie Musical.

Funny beyond words and at the end a bit political. At the beginning, too.

Anyway, brilliant satire on the "War on Drugs."

And I can't get the songs out of my head!


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GravatarAtrios is buying an Apple?


GravatarSheetses, batses.


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Gravatar What's up everyone? From the Apple Store in SF!
Atriot | 11.26.05 - 6:36 pm | #


could you pick me up an ipod while you are there?

call it a xmas gift.


GravatarKubrick's Lolita isn't much like the book, either. But even Nabokov liked the it, though he said it was not a movie of his book.

I love the movie, too. I think James Mason is a delicious Humbert Humbert, but it's Sellers who makes that movie for me. He's not the Clare Quilty of the book - he's an invention right out of Sellers' and Kubrick's heads. He's a great character.
Tena


Been teaching plays (tragedy, comedy) to Freshman, and have come up with an elaborate (overly so, for here) conceit about the lack of a narrator in plays.

It explains why the best movies based on books, "change" the book. The narrator must be replaced by the director and the actors.

The Kiera Knightley "Pride & Prejudice," for example, nicely "updates" the book in many subtle ways (including a nod to P.G. Wodehouse).

As someone else said here: if you want to "see" the book, READ IT!


GravatarCount me as another fan of Barry Lyndon and all things Kubrick. Though he lost me on Eyes Wide Shut, here's the thing no one ever talks about when they talk about how much they hated that movie: they watched the whole thing. Yes, I hated it too; but like everything else Kubrick, it was too compelling to look away. Which is quite a paradox, considering its laborious pacing and other issues.


GravatarNight all - been fun.


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Are you kidding? I haven't even gone yet!!!




Allrighty then,

Can I get you something from the liquor store?
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GravatarYes, I hated it too; but like everything else Kubrick, it was too compelling to look away. Which is quite a paradox, considering its laborious pacing and other issues.
Jennifer


My fascination with Kubrick, in a nutshell. His work is always compelling, but I can't always tell why.

At least, I haven't cared to. I just enjoy his work.


GravatarYes, I hated it too; but like everything else Kubrick, it was too compelling to look away

so kubrick can make bad movies that you want to watch.

i'm watching dude wheres my car.


GravatarIt has been a wierd holiday. I'm now listening to Mozart's Requiem for the first time. Things get wierder.


Gravatarlet the owl soar!


GravatarHuh?

I need 4 weeks lead time to get plane tix, and was hoping to combine it with my Christmas trip. But unless it's right *at* New Year's, I don't think I can stretch my vacation that long. And I really have to cut bait on my plane tix NOW.


GravatarLOL!!!!!

Not to sneaky, that one.

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dieselcreek | Email | Homepage | 11.26.05 - 6:34 pm | #


Sneak isn't really something that we encourage in our household. He's on orders that if he can't drive, he doesn't...no questions asked. We know what he does and with whom. His safety is far more important to us than a curfew or unprotected sex.


GravatarSexy Beast was creepy and scary and I liked it a lot.
I can't stand formula generated predictable movies. Boring.

Speaking of whipped cream, I hadn't realized how many of you were single men. Hmmm. Good to know.


Gravatar I'm now listening to Mozart's Requiem for the first time.



One of my favorite pieces of music.

Of to the store.

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GravatarI need 4 weeks lead time to get plane tix, and was hoping to combine it with my Christmas trip. But unless it's right *at* New Year's, I don't think I can stretch my vacation that long. And I really have to cut bait on my plane tix NOW.
Eli


Nooo, I meant the "not that you'd mind" part.


GravatarWGG - Mr. Tena and I both saw and loved Usual Suspects and Sexy Beast.

I think we both prefer Usual Suspects; I know I do.


GravatarSexy Beast/Usual Suspects(Reservoir Dogs, too)//Ocean's Eleven/Twelve

it one end of the genre there's the crook/buddy war-movie wherein everybody gets rich and laid...kelly's heroes?

atr the other end, there's the crook/buddy war-movie wherein everybody gets it, in bad ways, but after gettin laid, usually...

the common feature is the war movie leitmotif


GravatarI mean, I even liked "Barry Lyndon."

yup...
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar(aka | Email | 11.26.05 - 6:36 pm | #

me too....


Gravatari whipped double cream to go with my Marks and Spencers Meringue nests

and it was delcious


GravatarNooo, I meant the "not that you'd mind" part.

'Cause I'm all persona non grata now.


GravatarFuck! Went out and dealt with the tent and grill. The tent was full of water like a little indoor swimming pool and the sleeping bags were soaked. Oh, well they proably need a washing anyway.

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GravatarI mean, I even liked "Barry Lyndon."

yup...
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar(aka | Email | 11.26.05 - 6:36 pm | #

me too....
SHG have


Me, three.


Gravatar'Cause I'm all persona non grata now.
Eli


You're always persona to me. [kiss!]


GravatarYou're always persona to me. [kiss!]

Aw, shucks. I think. [mmm...]


GravatarBeehtoven's fifth is the greatest piece of music ever written. It is cliche, but there it is.


GravatarBack from the store, now who ordered the zig zags?


Gravatari love Mozart's Don Giovanni.


Gravatar Beehtoven's fifth is the greatest piece of music ever written. It is cliche, but there it is.


It certainly is and it is surprising how few people have ever listened to it.


Gravatari am currently listening to Tchaikovsky Sleeping Beauty Opp. 66

my fav ballet.

i also love Don Quiote, Giselle and Romeo and Juilet.


Gravatar Beehtoven's fifth is the greatest piece of music ever written. It is cliche, but there it is.

'Cliched'. And the Fifth isn't the greatest in my world.


GravatarThe greatest piece of music ever written is the 8th symphony of BRUCKNER.


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