I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Moist?
Jews were "justifiably" persecuted?
Wow. Words fail me,
Who is Orrin Judd and I am better off for not knowing?
"We Do not torture." ~ George "War" Bush
Ahem, so Abu Ghraib was just fiction, you stupid asswipe???
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Not to belive in witchcraft is the greatest of all herisies.
Jews too were justifiably, though unnecessarily, persecuted for their beliefs and inability to conform to social norms
WHAT!
THE!
FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wow! now i know what to think!
Do I really want to know who the twit was who spouted this? It's grammatically coherent, but it's logic is dithworthy.
Damn!!!~!
Jews too were justifiably, though unnecessarily, persecuted for their beliefs and inability to conform to social norms
COCKPUNCH!
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Jews too were justifiably, though unnecessarily, persecuted for their beliefs and inability to conform to social norms.
Wait until he finds out about that rap music so popular in the subversive black community...
Orin Judd is a lunatic.
You can have a number of voices so long as everyone has just one hymnal. That's the essence of the protestantism that the End of History requires.
Fucktard is the word I'm looking for.
Wow.
And I thought the '50's were bad.
So, if we don't like the way Jews have been persecuted; we should deny that Jews exist. Is that the jist of it?
Blame the libs- It's out there on the blogs already.
Us libs have infected the minds of the public against the war! Ohhhh noooo.
And that press, well it's becoming more liberal, making the Iraq war unwinnable !
Bla bla bla. Not the wingers fault at all. Nope.
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Who needs Sci-Fi when you have just read theatre of the absurd?
Who is this person and where did he learn what he thinks?
Wow. Just wow.
Orin Judd is a lunatic.
or else he's sadly, dangerously misinformed.
Three posts in 6 minutes? Can't...keep...up.. *pant, pant*
OJ probably would be angry were I to approach him, give him a Koran and tell him this is the hymnbook we'll be singing from. He talks about "end of history." Sounds fundie to me. Why not convert all the christians to Muslims? Muslims already have theocracies in place.
Digby takes to his job with the diedication of the lucky pup at the pathology lab explores stool specimens for paracite cycts.
or else he's sadly, dangerously misinformed. - pie
Why not both?
denial of the basis of Western Civilization it is so transgressive that it deserved to be and was persecuted
The "basis of Western Civ" that witchcraft "transgressed," was, of course, patriarchy and it's offspring, monotheism.
I'm a witch and am more than a bit "transgressive" of patriarch and monotheism.
Wow. I don't get this guy's angle. So, Wow. Guess I haven't smoked enough "black is green" tonight to know the so called truth.
You might want to go back and brush up on your history, witchcraft was quite popular, even within the Church, for an awfully long time.
Popular, maybe. But, in the end, largely unsuccessful. Some blame it on the dearth of newt eyes, but who really knows.
Jews too were justifiably, though unnecessarily, persecuted for their beliefs and inability to conform to social norms
That's not even historically accurate. In medieval Europe, Jews fulfilled a vital function, as lenders to the court (the Church prohibition on usury being a problem if you have a crusade to fund).
Of course, once the repayments got a bit tedious, the ruling nabobs tended to persecute and kick out said Jews.
Pure politics.
Plus, there's the cultural reality that if a society doesn't have outsiders to persecute, it'll eagerly create some, so as to avoid having to look too closely at its own tensions.
Jews too were justifiably, though unnecessarily, persecuted for their beliefs and inability to conform to social norms
They couldn't fit their big, hooked noses through the necks of those varsity sweaters.
Shorter OJ:
Conform or die.
Shorter OJ:
Conform or die.
The whole point is conformity. The whole point is hierarchy. If nobody knows their place, society falls apart.
Same-sex marriage is unacceptable because, without two sexes in a marriage, there is no socially ordained inhabitor of the superior or the subordinate position.
If inequality is lessened considerably, then the residents at the top of the heap are no longer clearly superior.
If there are no heathens, then how can you pick out the Christians?
If anyone challenges the hierarchy that supports the society, then the society itself rests on a shaky or nonexistent foundation.
BBC via the local public radio station had the prefect date from Poland explaining how a gay pride march that was banned should have been banned because homosexuality was against moral law.
Is he basically saying, "conform or die?"
The folks that comb this Brothers Judd -type crap deserve a Medal O' Freedom™. Moreso even than Slam Dunk Tenet.
You can have a number of voices so long as everyone has just one hymnal. That's the essence of the protestantism that the End of History requires. It'll be easy enough to Reform Islam, just as we did Catholicism, Judaism, and the rest.
This was the part that really got me. That clown's just wistful for the glory days when Ward was a little too hard on the Beaver.
I think if one had a big enough shovel to dig deep, they'd find that Orrin has some mommy issues. Subscriptions, even.
The "basis of Western Civ" that witchcraft "transgressed," was, of course, patriarchy and it's offspring, monotheism.
And 'transgression' is so often the term for an inconvenient cultural norm. Those Sheela-na-gigs in Ireland weren't put there by accident.
That makes me want to puke.
Wonder how much kiddie porn OJ and his brother go through in a week?
Just went to the Brothers Judd (aka "BJ" but let's let that lie...) site. Hard to figure out exactly WHAT these dudes are; Millennial Wingnut Catholics? And what the hell is MLK doing on their list of "Great People" when they call FDR "malignant?"
They are as confused as they are confusing.
Blame the jews, blame the blacks, blame the gays -- the font of hatred doesn't change much from decade to decade.
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On a far, far, less disturbing note.
Distinct surface detail is detectable on Mars tonigh, good viewing up to about 200x.
Good to be alive.
Hey, tigre! If I fly back out of NYC, is there any reason I wouldn't want to fly out of La Guardia?
Eli,
Allow for delays. But no, no other reason not to. It's closer than JFK or Newark.
Good to be alive.
(hands attaturk a steaming cup of coffee)
"Jews too were justifiably, though unnecessarily, persecuted"
OK -- so I'm not the first to point this out but WTF!?
s he basically saying, "conform or die?"
It's not that clean. He's saying, "Conform or be tortured." Publically. So others can see the results of failure to conform adequately.
These xians. So full of the love of their god. When did these devotees of a desert thunder god get to be so powerful and how much longer is this going to last?
Of course, anti-Semitism only became exterminationist once you mixed in Darwinism and racial theory, by which it is necessary to kill any group outside your own discrete gene pool.
Is this supposed to be an arguement for (un)Intelligent Design? OJ thinks it's Darwin's fault the jews have been persecuted.
Riiiiight. Cuz nothing bad ever happened to the jews before 1859 when The Origin of Species was published.
WTF is he smoking?
Allow for delays. But no, no other reason not to. It's closer than JFK or Newark.
That's what I figured. Scenario B would be to return to the family home base in NJ, and go to Newark from there. Would probably make the plane tix simpler, since that's where I'd by flying in to.
you can see stars and planets and stuff?
Don't get none of that round these parts.
Jews, Witches...they're all the same. All Good Americans™ should reject them.
Catholics, too.
That damn Ellis Island!
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If I fly back out of NYC, is there any reason I wouldn't want to fly out of La Guardia? - Eli
Are your arms strong enough to gain sufficient altitude to clear Manhatten?
Are your arms strong enough to gain sufficient altitude to clear Manhatten?
Just feel these guns!
watertiger IS: Travel Agent!
(In theatres in December.)
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On to The Bone Snatcher!
Now there's a fraught title if ever I saw one.
...Jews too were justifiably, though unnecessarily, persecuted...
Gotta be the asshat statemenmt of the century. Who is this jerk?
you can see stars and planets and stuff?
Don't get none of that round these parts.
Atrios
City people.
Poor, Poor, culturally rich, City People.
My first ancestor to emigrate to the colonies was Sgt. Thomas Barnes in 1629. His wife, Mary, was epileptic; the townspeople in Farmington, CT, which he helped found, mistook her seizures for demonic possession and she was hanged as a witch, the last person to be so executed in CT. He then married the constable's daughter and I am descended from one of the many children of his second marriage. I believe witch hunts really do exist.
What exactly are the "social norms" he's alluding to? Mass on Sunday, perhaps?
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Can I stay if I promise to behave myself?
Back from the store, who ordered the zig zags?
City people.
Poor, Poor, culturally rich, City People.
My dad used to have a house in the country. Beautiful, crystal-clear skies.
And a barn. And a train set. And we could swim across the Delaware to PA.
you can see stars and planets and stuff?
Don't get none of that round these parts.
Atrios
C'mon out here, sugar. Sky's as clear and velvety as can be.
(hands attaturk a steaming cup of coffee)
watertiger
Mmmmmm, WGG's stuff. Fantastic.
Doesn't go all that well with these blue cheese stuff olives though.
you can see stars and planets and stuff?
Don't get none of that round these parts.
Atrios
Come to Blissfest next July. Right near Mackinac Island, or the teip of the lower peninsula. You can see the aurora bourealis from there, too, too.
I'm a stargazer. You all probably figured that out...
watertiger IS: Travel Agent!
Rex Dart, Eskimo Spy!
Sprenger and Kramer, two fucked-up sons of bitches for whom, one must hope, karma contained a particular kick:
Part 1
Question I
Whether the Belief that there are such Beings as Witches is so Essential a Part of the Catholic Faith that Obstinacy to maintain the Opposite Opinion manifestly savours of Heresy.
I'm pretty sure that the person who said all this, if I read all the links correctly, was Hitchens, not Orrin Judd.
Doesn't go all that well with these blue cheese stuff olives though.
Attaturk
You've been to Trader Joe's, ain't you?
Atrios sez:
you can see stars and planets and stuff?
Don't get none of that round these parts.
Thursday night I was at my Mom's farm...stars and Mars and O'Ryan (the Irish contellation).
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Back from the store, who ordered the zig zags?
BlakNo1
Actually, I did. The ones my friends gave me were a 1/16 of an inch too wide and 1/2" too long for my roller.
I need the Mama Bear papers (just right).
Brian --
You win -- my people didn't come over until 1659 -- but I am sure that your ancestor's wife's death was justifiable because ... well, just because, you know - after all, if Thomas Barnes hadn't re-married, you wouldn't be here! (See! God writes straight with crooked lines)
OK -- now I really gotta go to recreation!
The existence of gays is much more a threat to christianity than atheists and witches combined.
watertiger IS: Travel Agent!
Rex Dart, Eskimo Spy!
watertiger
DON'T TOUCH MY BAGS IF YOU PLEASE. MR. CUSTOMS MAN
I'm pretty sure that the person who said all this, if I read all the links correctly, was Hitchens, not Orrin Judd.
No, it was Judd, in comments. He's predicting that Hitchens will find Jesus. Uh, right.
And christianity isn't western civilization.
Atrios,
When I moved just one mile from Ballston, VA to my home in North Arlington, I was amazed at how many more stars I could see.
But once, years ago, I was at Omega in Rhinebeck, NY and walked back to my cabin at night. I will never forget the billions of stars I could see out there so far away from any city. Just awe=inspiring.
I really miss the skies around Lake City. There's very little light pollution and of course the air is clear and cold and you're closer to the stars there. It's incredible. The Milky Way is visible most nights.
Here I can't see a bloody thing, except trees and streetlights.
Doesn't go all that well with these blue cheese stuff olives though.
Attaturk
You've been to Trader Joe's, ain't you?
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar
Nope,
Hy-Vee -- Where there's a friendly smile in every aisle.
And christianity wasn't the basis of the Roman Empire of Greek civilization, either.
1627 - Hans Brubaker and his stalwart four sons of German Switzerland, arrived in the British Colonies.... My pippel!
1729 - John MacDonald, jumped ship off the coast of Georgia rather than return to the Scotland under English control which would have had his neck. Married, quite quickly, into local power structure - beautiful Cherokee girl WITH property.....
But once, years ago, I was at Omega in Rhinebeck, NY and walked back to my cabin at night.
It's completely feasible for me to simply sit outside at night and stare upward for hours when I'm in the country.
He's predicting that Hitchens will find Jesus.
Only if "Jesus" is the name of the bartender.
A bit of justifiable, but unnecessary persecution for you.
Crusaders preparing to follow their king against the Saracens, burgesses envious of Jewish wealth, barons indebted to the Jews, the fanatical clergy, all conspired to exterminate the Jews...
When, at daybreak, the [burning] citadel was captured, those who were still alive were put to death. . . . The mob then returned to the cathedral where the records of debts due to Jews were in safe-keeping. They compelled the guardians to turn these over to them to be burned then and there in the sanctuary. This done, the fury of the mob was spent, and the city was restored to its usual order and quiet.
Who the hell is this Orrin Judd?
He's predicting that Hitchens will find Jesus.
Only if "Jesus" is the name of the bartender.
watertiger
His favorite beverages,
"Jesus Savior, Blue Label"
"Old Messiah"
And christianity isn't western civilization.
Thank you for pointing that out, Incog. The ancient Greeks and Romans gave as much, if not more, to wetern civ, that did the xians. And, just today, I was reading how Sir Newton was an alchemist. Alchemists were privileged white men who believed what witches, who were usually poor indigenous women, believed, but had paper to write on and metals to experiment upon. And they gave birth to our modern scientific method. Which these fuckers also hate.
I'll raise you on stars: Southern Nepal.
I had a couple of summers as a kid where I had a more or less continuous shiner from looking at the stars. My Grandfather had the spotting scope from a Japanese artillery piece. Lay on my back in yard for hours with it propped on my knees, but most of the weight was on the eyepiece against my cheek bone.
I'm right next door to Boston. No stars for this kid.
My dad used to have a house in the country. Beautiful, crystal-clear skies.
And a barn. And a train set. And we could swim across the Delaware to PA.
Eli
I used to live in a big house in the high desert of LA. Clear, starry skies and very dark nights. And skinheads and wacky fundamentalists.
I'll take the light pollution.
Good evening, folks!
Well, we avoided shopping yesterday, although we had to drive past the mall at one point. It looked full, but not crazy.
Today we went to CostCo. Again, full but not overly so. It's Saturday, after all. It wasn't crazy. Crowded, but I don't know that it was anything out of the ordinary for a normal busy Saturday.
Which makes me think that all of the press today about "brisk black Friday sales" isn't a load of hooey. I woiuldn't be surprised at all to see in a week or two that sales this weekend weren't all that.
What do y'all think?
I used to live in a big house in the high desert of LA. Clear, starry skies and very dark nights. And skinheads and wacky fundamentalists.
I'll take the light pollution.
We had no crazies that I was aware of.
It's completely feasible for me to simply sit outside at night and stare upward for hours when I'm in the country.
watertiger
It is one of the things that rejuvenates my soul.
I'll never forget the night, 2 years ago, that I spent outside Jacob's Lake, AZ, at the north rim of the Grand Canyon. A cool June night, with a billion stars in the sky, twinkling and blinking at me. I sat out on the deck of our lodge for at least 6 hours, until my mom begged me to come in because it was approaching 40 degrees. I wrote poetry that night, and was mesmerized by the moment in which I was enveloping myself.
An aside, that trip to Utah with my parents in 2003 was one of the best things I have ever done for myself. I'm so glad I had that ten days with them as fully-grown adults.
The ancient Greeks and Romans gave as much, if not more, to wetern civ, that did the xians.
Hecate Malificent
They were also pretty adept at the whole hierarchy thing. Which the previously non-hierarchical christians adopted so they could become political players.
Ah, Trader Joe's has been advertising bleu cheese stuffed olives recently.....
Attaturk sez:
"Jesus Savior, Blue Label"
Again with the Blue Label!
(Attaturk likes his scotch dear.)
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Hecate, christians are always trying to inject the idea that Western Civilization was only made possible by them when history shows they fought every single advancement pissing and screaming all the way. We would be a thousands years more advanced than we are now if it wasn't for christianity. We would probably be inhabiting other planets in other solar systems by now.
I'm right next door to Boston.
Quincy? C-Town?
oh my fucking god... "justifiably, though unnecessarily"????
so, nonconformity is a good excuse for genocide?
compelled the guardians to turn these over to them to be burned then and there in the sanctuary. This done, the fury of the mob was spent, and the city was restored to its usual order and quiet. - pseudonymous in nc
Well you people who were against the bankruptcy revision bill are just as bad as these Crusaders. [/demented troll snark
“ inability to conform to social norms.”
You see right there is the whole mantra of the Republican nut jobs. A refusal to confirm, equals treason. These people do not believe in democracy and freedom. They require obedience, and any one who will not do that is against freedom.
Yes. They are that crazy.
Eli, your dad's house wasn't anywhere near a place called Dingman's Ferry, was it? I used to live there ...
Quincy? C-Town?
Somerville.
Litz,
Ran into Hermes today to pick up something they'd been holding for me. Haven't been near another store in days. If Americans are dumb enough to run up their credit cards this winter, I despair for them. It's going to be cold in January and February and heat is going to cost a fortune. But you know, I'm always going all Cassandra on this stuff and no one ever listens.
the Romans were on the whole pretty tolerant of religion has i understand.
as long as you worshipped the emperor.
You see right there is the whole mantra of the Republican nut jobs. A refusal to confirm, equals treason. --sally
Why, yes.
Ô¿Ô --
What's up with the cat and dog issues today?
They were also pretty adept at the whole hierarchy thing. Which the previously non-hierarchical christians adopted so they could become political players.
True, esp. the later Greeks and the Romans.
From the Judd site, Hitchens;
He's not just an atheist who doesn't believe in God, he says, but an "anti-theist," who actively denies the existence of same, a distinction he insists on making./i>
Um, 'scuse me, I'm an Agnostic, who doesn't believe in God. An Atheist believes in the absence of God. Hitchens is just a plain vanilla Atheist who wants to be special. He was also "raised by a Baptist father and a non-observant Jewish mother". Maybe if Mom had been paying more attention...
can you imagine if the Roman Empire had access to steam power?
they be unstoppable.
Yeah, you saw this coming, give us a minute before deleting us.
Jews too were justifiably, though unnecessarily, persecuted for their beliefs and inability to conform to social norms.
In fact in a number of cases we have found the historical record challenging the over-simplistic, dumbed-down for popular audiences story of perpetual inherent victimhood. For example, the Jews were caught in a pyramid scheme in taxation, in which they did they dirty work for feudal lords and then were stuck with the blame as if those taxes were going to them. And there are situations of exploitation comparable with the tensions of South Asian-run concessions in British colonies in Africa. Nowhere was it ever as simple as "they're Jews" or "they are different," usually it was a matter of an accusation of wildly varying credibility (as with blood libel or dual loyalty). Since the dumbed-down popular version the right has memorized always makes it a matter of "they're Jews," this strongly suggests
that there was no more research done than a half-awake viewing of the last monthly HBO Holocaust preaching if even that.
But in no case have we ever found any reason to imagine that the defining evil of intolerance was justified, let alone because of some preposterous failure to conform. Indeed, the great lesson of the witch hunts is that in conformity there is no security.
For a great example of that, check out the Devils of Loudon by Aldous Huxley, in which a rising star of the church falls to torture and immolation because of a totally unfounded accusation by a scared young woman who'd never met him. Or consider Arthur Miller's the Crucible, and its inspiring example of the Salem legal murders, where there were no Jews or conspicuous failures to conform!
But you know, I'm always going all Cassandra on this stuff and no one ever listens.
Hecate Malificent
Look, Hecate. I'm telling you what. I listen to you, and you have an excellent track record.
I'm saving several hundred dollars from my Christmas Club (which was payable in October) for my heating bill this winter.
You are so right, and we need to get frugal. Collectively. All of us. Time to commune, for real.
Thanks for being a beacon, Hecate Malificent.
can you imagine if the Roman Empire had access to steam power?
they be unstoppable.
Moonbootica
But what if Spartacus had a Piper Cub?
Who is Orrin Judd?
Condoms=Death
It is also worth pointing out that the rightist meme that recent declassifications vindicate McCarthy are categorically untrue.
His favorite beverages,
"Jesus Savior, Blue Label"
"Old Messiah"
His bourbon? JD. That's Jesus Dei.
'll raise you on stars: Southern Nepal.
pseudonymous in nc
You win. And - OOooooooh!
Hecate --
Yeah, I actually filled up at under $2 a gallon today. I'm sure this is temporary, though.
It baffles me that mainstream Americans are shocked that fuel prices are so high. I mean, DUH. You have the oil industry running our government, of course they want prices to be high.
Can you imagine if a bunch of dairy farmers took over the government and the price of milk suddenly tripled or quadrupled? I mean, why are people surprised? Hello!
There is a word that very precisely describes Orrin Judd: dipshit.
Brotherhood gains seats in Egypt polls
In a stunning result, the outlawed Muslim Brotherhood has captured at least 25 more seats in Egypt's parliament in the latest round of the country's parliamentary elections.
The Brotherhood gains in the second round of elections on Saturday came despite cordons of police that fired tear gas and rubber bullets in what appeared to be a determined government effort to block opposition voters and clamp off building momentum by the Islamic-based organisation.
Early Interior Ministry figures showed the banned but tolerated Brotherhood increasing its share in parliament to at least 72 seats, a more than fourfold jump over its representation in the outgoing parliament - with a third and final stage of voting still to go on 1 December, with a runoff likely six days after that.
Eli, your dad's house wasn't anywhere near a place called Dingman's Ferry, was it? I used to live there ...
I think we were on the other side of Port Jervis from there.
For a great example of that, check out the Devils of Loudon by Aldous Huxley, in which a rising star of the church falls to torture and immolation because of a totally unfounded accusation by a scared young woman who'd never met him.
Or you could see Ken Russell's The Devils which is the adaptation, arguably the best political movie ever made.
Condoms=Death
masculine_monica_nyc
My mom was raised in Catholic boarding school back in the 40s and 50s. She told me in health class the nuns told them that every 100 or so condoms was priced with a pin in the factory, so you could never be sure if the one you had would work or not.
Those wacky nuns, the things they told kids back then ....
Hecate -
I shouldn't say this...but I've had two dreams about you.
No, no,no, nothing naughty.
In my dreams (I swear this is true) you single-handedly defeated Enron. And gave a press-conference on the steps of the Supreme Court.
By the way, you were kinda hot.
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can you imagine if the Roman Empire had access to steam power?
they be unstoppable.
--Moonbootica
Not only would they have remained stoppable, but the things that would've stopped them would be the same: corruption and apathy at home, overconfidence and overextension, pockets of especially dedicated resistance, superstition and the occasional supremely bad commander. (Something to keep in mind for American technological fantasies.)
i must admit i have a weakness of the Ancient Romans.
i think we lost so much when the western roman empire collapsed.
Maybe, one day, a Republican will stand up and say “these people are nuts, and they are killing America and the world”
But don’t hold your breath. It would be nice to think that all this crap would put back these jerks 100 years.
'll raise you on stars: Southern Nepal.
pseudonymous in nc
You win. And - OOooooooh!
Tena
Yes, so I hear. My friend, the blogboy known as DeDurkheim went a few years ago and found the whole place exotic and the skies unbelievable.
Ah, Port Jervis, well I'd been there but it was a little further north, so we didn't go too often.
We were just south of Milford. Great ice cream there at the Milford Milk Bar. As far as I know the place is still there.
I need to go back to visit.
The world has all of a sudden gotten to complex for me.
I'm with Rodney What's His Name, why can't we all just get along?
By the way, you were kinda hot.
Were???
spork,
That's very sweet! We've settled with Enron, but I may make it to the Supreme Court steps, yet!
my dad has walked in Nepal.
and my cousin has walked up to the Everest basecamp.
I like that spork has had a dream about Hecate.
Hecate, you'd like spork. His incident is remarkable.
Yeah, I actually filled up at under $2 a gallon today.
Where?
She told me in health class the nuns told them that every 100 or so condoms was priced with a pin in the factory, so you could never be sure if the one you had would work or not.
I just heard that a number of fundie Christian students at my old college had been caught pricking the condoms kept in a basket in the student lounge. So, no more free condoms.
i think we lost so much when the western roman empire collapsed.
Vomitoriums, for one thing.
No one builds vomitoriums anymore.
Damn. That was settled with Enron
Haloscan hates me.
I've drempt about people here, too. Strange isn't it?
Yeah, I actually filled up at under $2 a gallon today.
Where?
res ipsa loquitur
$1.89 in Dez Moinz
Regular at $1.80ish in upstate South Carolina. But that's just off the main pipeline.
res,
I filled up at CostCo. $1.99. But in KY we saw gas as low as $1.96 along I-24.
but the things that would've stopped them would be the same:
and lead poisoning.
The more I hear Pat Robertson , Jerry Foolwell, and all the other Christian loons, the more I understand why the Romans fed them to the lions.
Gas is under $2 a gallon here as well.
I just heard that a number of fundie Christian students at my old college had been caught pricking the condoms kept in a basket in the student lounge. So, no more free condoms.
So... They were pro-abortion?
$1.99, Knoxville
If I could go back in time I would take some antibiotics back and give them to Alexander the Great. He would have gone on and destroyed monotheism in Israel.
Yes, so I hear. My friend, the blogboy known as DeDurkheim went a few years ago and found the whole place exotic and the skies unbelievable.
Down in Chitwan, 1992, at sea level, staying at a lodge that ran on solar power.
"Oh my god, it's full of stars."
Sorry, I'm in Nashville in case you didn't know . ... gas is $1.99 ....
The more I hear Pat Robertson , Jerry Foolwell, and all the other Christian loons, the more I understand why the Romans fed them to the lions.
They missed a spot.
Pompey's organisation of the Greek East laid the foundation for the Roman Empire's conquest of of it.
Jesus, and we were oohing and aahing that regular unleaded was $2.39/gallon.
Those wacky nuns, the things they told kids back then .... - Litz, Velour Sweatsuit Media
Seems to me I remember that back then the conjecture was that about 1 in 10 nuns had been pinned with a prick.
If I could go back in time I would take some antibiotics back and give them to Alexander the Great. He would have gone on and destroyed monotheism in Israel.
Ô¿Ô
Wait I thought Alexander was the dude who converted to Christianity and pretty much got the whole ball rolling.
And what makes you think any other religion would have been more tolerant to your issue?
Ran into Hermes today to pick up something they'd been holding for me. Haven't been near another store in days. If Americans are dumb enough to run up their credit cards this winter, I despair for them. It's going to be cold in January and February and heat is going to cost a fortune. But you know, I'm always going all Cassandra on this stuff and no one ever listens.
Hecate Malificent
You say that as tho Hermes was dawdling along the sidewalk in front of your house one morning...
But I believe! I've paid off just about everybody! And boy are they mad - they keep upping the ante so that right now, I could put a Hummer on my MBNA card.... And I've got a cord of wood here and I bullyragged APS about my last bill and then bought some more of their stock too.... I'm listening to you, sugar! You buy that suit I sent you and we'll be in good shape....
I've drempt about people here, too. Strange isn't it?
Hecate Malificent
So have I. I can't even say who...but it has always been fun and interesting.
EschaCon. Best group of people I've met in years. The karma was full on fucking exceptionally warm, intelligent, and resilient. And artistic and creative. And progresive, and genuine, and generous.
It's okay to dream about the people here...they're good folks.
Oh wait maybe I'm confusing my Alexanders with my Constantines.
Sorry.
Beethoven's fifth symphony is not the greatest piece of music ever written. La Boheme is.
Pompey's organisation of the Greek East laid the foundation for the Roman Empire's conquest of of it.
Bush's organisation of the United States laid the foundation for the Chinese Empire's conquest of of it.
He would have gone on and destroyed monotheism in Israel.
Oh brilliant idea rubbery one; you mean like the Romans did after him? Get it through your head, the Jews don't do extinction.
Were???
Well, I was speaking of my dream. Past tense.
Now, today...
.
Alexander the Great existed long before Christainity appeared.
he did establish cities and further the spread of Hellenestic civlization.
his father Philip II of Macedon laid the goundworks.
According to the news, gas could be had here at under $2 a gallon - but not in Dallas. You have to go to an outlying area.
I paid $2.11 the other day, which is as low as it's been since before Katrina. Natural gas for heating, now that's another story.
I just heard that a number of fundie Christian students at my old college had been caught pricking the condoms kept in a basket in the student lounge. So, no more free condoms.
That's SICK.
You could get a lot worse things than pregnant by using a condom with a hole in it.
Fucking assholes.
Jesus, and we were oohing and aahing that regular unleaded was $2.39/gallon.
watertiger
In the Midwest we have the subsidized "Ethanol" which sells about a dime cheaper than regular unleaded.
Thanks Mr. & Ms. American Tax Payer,
Sincerely,
The Iowa Caucuses
I saw a stretch Hummer on I-85 last night. Whoever rides in those things must have an ingrowing penis.
Well, I was speaking of my dream. Past tense.
Now, today...
.
spork_incident
Well, you're dreaming of me in my purple pajamas!
but I may make it to the Supreme Court steps, yet!
Yes!
.
Wait I thought Alexander was the dude who converted to Christianity and pretty much got the whole ball rolling.
And what makes you think any other religion would have been more tolerant to your issue? - Litz, Velour Sweatsuit Media
Umm that was Constantine.
Alexander ~ 300 bc and no tardis.
Constantine ~ 350 ad.
At Thanksgiving dinner, we were saying how, if the price of gas went up to $5/gal., and then dropped to $3, everyone would be estatic about how cheap gas was.
I've drempt about people here, too. Strange isn't it?
Hecate Malificent
I've had three -- and counting -- about WalterNeff and one about NYMary's Rosie.
That's SICK.
You could get a lot worse things than pregnant by using a condom with a hole in it.
Fucking assholes.
Should have expelled them. That's something that should not be messed with.
is "jew" a religion or a social clan?
Alexander the Great may take all the fame but modern historians seen Phillip II' reigne as a watershead in history.
his reforms had long standing conquenceses and really was the start of the Hellenestic Age.
Bush's organisation of the United States laid the foundation for the Chinese Empire's conquest of of it.
I am so afraid you may be correct. And the Chinese have a severly unbalanced population; almost overwhelmingly male. No such society has ever existed but many hypothesize that such a society would not be particularly pacifist and inward-looking. If for no other reason, . . ..
I paid $ 2.03 on Wednesday. It's back up to $ 2.15.
Granholm negotiated with someone in the oil industry...I don't have the full story, but I'll look it up.
Retiring to the "green room", back later.
an ingrowing penis.
I just heard that a number of fundie Christian students at my old college had been caught pricking the condoms kept in a basket in the student lounge.
Someone's in serious need of trepanation to let the evil spirits out. Anyone seen the obsedian blades and maul?
I saw a stretch Hummer on I-85 last night. Whoever rides in those things must have an ingrowing penis.
Whenever one of those -- or just a plain old Hummer or ex-large SUV -- passes, my friend Mike calls out, "Sorry about your dick!"
"...are akin to the Left denying there were Communists...""
Since the wingnuts are going all retro this season, maybe they can sprinkle in terms like "hippie", "long-haired", and gosh, I dunno, howabout "grass" and "peacenik" and "groovy"?
"Draft-dodger" would be good, too, but, oops..err, nevermind...
I've drempt about people here, too. Strange isn't it?
Hecate Malificent
I've had three -- and counting -- about WalterNeff and one about NYMary's Rosie.
res ipsa loquitur
I had a dream about watertiger.
I also had a dream about W. a couple nights ago.
Should have expelled them. That's something that should not be messed with.
Eli
I agree, but no doubt the fundies will say "that's the point" -- their aim is to keep people from having sex, period.
It always amuses me all of this books about sex in Christian bookstores, for married couples. Because they don't know how or what or anything. Because they've been so repressed.
All that repressing isn't a good thing.
Basically depsite everything, the fundies think sex is icky and they just don't think anyone should be doing it, married or not.
Sorry for the typos.
I just heard that a number of fundie Christian students at my old college had been caught pricking the condoms kept in a basket in the student lounge.
That's a new word:
"Duggaring"
It's not just the content, the "Jews were justifiably persecuted..." comment; it is his tone, the confidence with which he thinks he knows some history.
I very much want to hurt this person.
i've never understood the Fundie ideology about sex
they seem really repressed about it.
I also had a dream about W. a couple nights ago.
Marcia Brady
Me too! It was not a good dream, either.
I saw a stretch Hummer on I-85 last night. Whoever rides in those things must have an ingrowing penis.
I have no vehicle at all, which means that my penis size is effectively infinite.
That's a new word:
"Duggaring"
Attaturk
Oh, my fucking god! That is too insightful for words!
Whenever one of those -- or just a plain old Hummer or ex-large SUV -- passes, my friend Mike calls out, "Sorry about your dick!" - res ipsa loquitur
Por Miguel, Ole!
Mama mia! Damn!
Me too! It was not a good dream, either.
Litz, Velour Sweatsuit Media
How could it be?
I dreamed that it was my job to keep him from fucking everything up. I woke up tired.
Daryn admires?! Rush's Gerkin.
I also had a dream about W. a couple nights ago.
Marcia Brady
Me too! It was not a good dream, either.
I still haven't woken up from mine.
Sex is for procreation. Now and then, married people have to show some maturity and discipline and have sexual relations. God wants humanity to be fruitful and multiply. So no matter how "icky" sexual intercourse is, God wants you to do it. Even if you hate doing it.
Hecate ...
Could those fundie motherfuckers pricking holes in the condom be gotton on some sort of battery offense? Via transferred intent doctrine? Their mental state is reckless.
"...Because they don't know how or what or anything. Because they've been so repressed."
--Litz, Velour Sweatsuit Media
Repressed or not, put a man and woman together who are attracted to each other (or not), they will have sex, with or without contraception.
I have no vehicle at all, which means that my penis size is effectively infinite.
Eli
Of course.
I have no vehicle at all, which means that my penis size is effectively infinite.
Eli
We passed a shiny new McMansion on Franklin Pike today and the obligatory Shiny New Hummer was parked in the front. Such a cliche.
Sex is for procreation. Now and then, married people have to show some maturity and discipline and have sexual relations. God wants humanity to be fruitful and multiply. So no matter how "icky" sexual intercourse is, God wants you to do it. Even if you hate doing it.
God, what a *drag*. I wish I was sterile so I have an excuse to not subject myself to any more of those teeedious orgasms.
Now and then, married people have to show some maturity and discipline
Yep, true Bill Bennet sex here: heavy on the discipline.
That's SICK.
You could get a lot worse things than pregnant by using a condom with a hole in it.
Fucking assholes.
I think that would also count as product tampering, would it not? Given the magnitude of damage one can cause, tampering carries some pretty severe jail sentences.
If you ask me, these budding little psychopaths should spend some time in jail for what they did.
I saw a stretch Hummer on I-85 last night. Whoever rides in those things must have an ingrowing penis.
Whenever one of those -- or just a plain old Hummer or ex-large SUV -- passes, my friend Mike calls out, "Sorry about your dick!"
res ipsa loquitur
Someone with enough money to tool around in one can afford a penis enhancement.
I hit the lottery I'm voting Republican so as I can keep my money and spend it on wine women and song.
I also had a dream about W. a couple nights ago.
I'm sorry. Do you need your brain bleached now? I can offer my assistance.
Sex is for procreation. Now and then, married people have to show some maturity and discipline and have sexual relations. God wants humanity to be fruitful and multiply. So no matter how "icky" sexual intercourse is, God wants you to do it. Even if you hate doing it.
Arabella
And yet they still go to church...
Of course.
Marcia Brady ∞
I hope this doesn't mean we're related.
I had a dream about watertiger.
I also had a dream about W. a couple nights ago.
Good god, I hope we weren't in the same dream!
Unless I was kicking the crap out of him.
That's a new word:
"Duggaring"
Attaturk
Bravo!
We passed a shiny new McMansion on Franklin Pike today and the obligatory Shiny New Hummer was parked in the front. Such a cliche.
Litz, Velour Sweatsuit Media
Only to those who can't afford them.
Did I mention that not only did I rip my head open earlier today, but that prior to that I voluntarily relinquished 90% of my red blood cells in order to be a good and loving Christian?
Just wanted to check.
I'm totally ready to do my part prostituting, as OJ suggests. Amy takers? I've got a sale running this week...
SO, hubby bought me a funny book today, "The Little Book of Christmas Stress." Cuz the holiday makes me such a grump.
The funniest part is about dealing with fundie relatives. "Three men traveling together? Fabulously dressed? One with jewelry and the other two with, basically, potpourri? And they're looking for a place called The Stable? Are you getting the picture?"
res,
That's an excellent legal theory. Personally, I'd like to smack people who'd do such a thing. Hatefull.
Good god, I hope we weren't in the same dream!
Unless I was kicking the crap out of him.
*That's* the dream I want to have. And it would be really warm, so you'd work up a good sweat and-
I have to go.
Fundies are uptight about sex cuz they know they're lousy
at it and they know liberals are better at it.
Just saying........
.
Only to those who can't afford them. - Not Ntard
Okay, you've got the most toys, now go die.
Only to those who can't afford them.
Not Ntard
I can't afford them and I still say they are a cliche ...
Good god, I hope we weren't in the same dream!
Unless I was kicking the crap out of him.
watertiger
Definately different dreams. Although I could have used you for discipline in my W. dream.
I also had a dream about W. a couple nights ago.
I'm sorry. Do you need your brain bleached now? I can offer my assistance.
res ipsa loquitur
I still have some leftover from when I watched the CNN segment on fundie Christian sex toy parties. (I am so not kidding)
Fundies are uptight about sex cuz they know they're lousy
at it and they know liberals are better at it.
Right, why don't Baptists have sex standing up?
Because they don't want people to think they're dancing!
Definately different dreams. Although I could have used you for discipline in my W. dream.
Are you charging admission to your dreams? I'll send you my credit card number.
I'm totally ready to do my part prostituting
If the economy goes to hell I'll go back to stripping.
Ooof.
.
GWPDA,
What did you do to your head? My Goddess, you must be careful!
I still have some leftover from when I watched the CNN segment on fundie Christian sex toy parties.
See, now that just proves my point from earlier.
Is a clip of that on line somewhere?
I hope this doesn't mean we're related.
Eli
You're making my head hurt...
That's an excellent legal theory. Personally, I'd like to smack people who'd do such a thing. Hatefull.
I feel like I just got praise from the professor.
/smiling broadly
Are you charging admission to your dreams? I'll send you my credit card number.
Eli
Funny. I thought I remember seeing you there already, free of charge.
Must be my mistake.
And -- And douchbag goes on to mumble that the conversos -- the non-Christian residents of reconquered Spain who were given the choice of conversion, hurried exile or public painful death -- that it's a shame that they were persecuted because they were sincere converts! If he thinks you ccan be a sincere convert with a choice like that, what does he think of Coulterisms about modern nation-building? It's perfectly logical to a mind like this that bombing could give birth to democracy.
I still have some leftover from when I watched the CNN segment on fundie Christian sex toy parties.
Is anyone else picturing that scene from The Exorcist?
You're making my head hurt...
Well, you have that infinity symbol and everything...
Well.... See, there's this irrigation well at the corner of the lot, with a cute little roof over it. And Arthur and I were cutting thru the fence right there and I leant down for some reason, and he went forward and then I stood up and there was the edge of the roof and I fell down.... And it hurt. But Arthur was very, very good, he let me get back up and let us go back into the house without whinging or anything..... Didn't bleed very much. But can I please give up this stuff about going outside now? Please?
Funny. I thought I remember seeing you there already, free of charge.
Dammit, I can never remember my dreams.
Or anyone else's.
I have to go.
Eli
Was it something watertiger said?
We passed a shiny new McMansion on Franklin Pike today and the obligatory Shiny New Hummer was parked in the front. Such a cliche.
Litz, Velour Sweatsuit Media
Only to those who can't afford them.
Methinks somebody doesn't know the definition of 'cliched'.
Here's an example:
"NTodd would like a hummer (i.e., blowjob)."
That's cliched.
Are you charging admission to your dreams? I'll send you my credit card number.
Eli
Funny. I thought I remember seeing you there already, free of charge.
Must be my mistake.
Marcia Brady
Smart and savvy retort. Show us how it is done, Marcia!
It's perfectly logical to a mind like this that bombing could give birth to democracy.
First you have to blow up the absence of democracy!
Is anyone else picturing that scene from The Exorcist?
CEA
Well, I am NOW.
Fundies are uptight about sex cuz they know they're lousy at it and they know liberals are better at it.
Let me tell you! I've been with some FREAKY-DEAKY liberals ladies.
good times.
.
I used to have dreams about Madonna (the entertainer) all the time. I dream about celebrities a lot so I thought it was just me but one day I saw this book in the bookstore:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product...55&v=glance\">I Dream Of Madonna.
We are not alone.
GWPDA,
You stay inside and get Arthur to bring you lemonaide and cheese sandwiches for a day or so. Put your feet up on the comfy ottoman and an icepack on your poor noggin. I hope you feel much better soon.
In honor of Duggaring...
watertiger
Thanks for the blogwhore dear.
My favorite song:
"I had to sell Janna into White Slavery; but hey, here's a Hair Pin."
Truly the "Gift of the Magi"
GWPDA - Yes, you did mention you hurt your head, and I've been worried ever since.
so burning witches was a good thing? and the holocost? the spanish inquisition? the crusades?
i don't even know what to say about that. it makes me even more depressed than usual.
I still have some leftover from when I watched the CNN segment on fundie Christian sex toy parties. (I am so not kidding)
Stinky
Was there a lot of "Oh, God, yes! Oh, Jesus!" going on in the background?
Crap. I fucked up the link. Dammit.
Let's try this.
I Dream Of Madonna.
The last time a stretch Hummer passed me on the freeway, I just reflexively gave it the bird. Without even thinking. I just looked over at it and thought, "Awww, FUCK YOU" and flipped off whoever was in it.
OT: but to anyone's knowledge has any major religion or society every condoned suicide? ( I think the answer is no, but I am humbled by the collective knowledge here and I am trying to help Young DWD with his next to the last college paper. hip hip hooray. Youngest DWD is a brilliant writer, so at age 55 I am nearly done with papers!)
so burning witches was a good thing? and the holocost? the spanish inquisition? the crusades?
Everyone needs hobbies.
I like NTodd because he's subtle.
Just sayin'.
.
I like NTodd because he's subtle.
Just sayin'.
.
Was there a lot of "Oh, God, yes! Oh, Jesus!" going on in the background?
Was there speaking in tongues?
Snake handling?
GWPDA, please do not let the knowledge exit and get better soon.
Didn't bleed very much. But can I please give up this stuff about going outside now? Please?
GWPDA
May I suggest a handsome young yardboy to do the outside work?
OT: but to anyone's knowledge has any major religion or society every condoned suicide?
I'm pretty sure fundamentalist Christians encourage it if you're not one of them.
Hope you are feeling better GWPDA
The Romans condoned suicide.
I have no vehicle at all, which means that my penis size is effectively infinite.
Eli
one infinity is the same size as every other.
OT: but to anyone's knowledge has any major religion or society every condoned suicide?
I'm pretty sure fundamentalist Christians encourage it if you're not one of them.
Eli
Jahovah!
Jahovah!
Jahovah!
DWD.
Not sure what's a "major religion," but I've read that the Aztecs or Incas may have taken "vonunteers" to be sacrificed to the gods.
The right: making bigotry acceptable again.
Christmas butter toffee, anyone?
Eli, actually, they will just kill you. Too undependable to wait till they decide to do it themselves. Snark, however well-formed, is not all that helpful though.
one infinity is the same size as every other.
Which makes me versatile.
Enkew. I appreciate it.
I bought a bunch of croissants today. They'll be really good as turkey sammitches!
I'll be okay. It doesn't hurt very much. On the other hand, since I stipulated 65% disability pay at you know where, maybe it should hurt a lot? For awhile? Nah. THat'd be tacky.
I don't know what's worse. Is it the fake wingnuts who just play to an audience, or the crazy ones who actually believe their crap?
but to anyone's knowledge has any major religion or society every condoned suicide? ( I think the answer is no, but I am humbled by the collective knowledge here and I am trying to help Young DWD with his next to the last college paper. hip hip hooray. Youngest DWD is a brilliant writer, so at age 55 I am nearly done with papers!)
DWD - Ego Driven
Off the top of my head: Shintoist Japan?
Auntie GWPDA--have you been hit with windstorms?
Snark, however well-formed, is not all that helpful though.
"Snarky And Unhelpful" is my middle name.
Er, names.
DWD ~
Regarding religion and suicide...Islamists (what they're doing in Iraq), the kamikazes, The Branch Davidians...
See, they've got rules for everything:
Christian Sex Rules
A guide to what's allowed in the bedroom
OT: but to anyone's knowledge has any major religion or society every condoned suicide?
Starts with a "J" or an "N," depending.
Also, numerous societies condoned suicide as a matter of face-saving, (Romans).
DWD,
To the extent that suicide was (is?) an acceptable way of attonement for failure bringing dishonor, Japanese society.
There's also the coerced suicides of Romans and Nazis.
marcia, I think you might be right: out of shame and failure I think.
it makes me even more depressed than usual.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
Please don't be depressed. Have some soup.
Since when is snark unhelpful? That's how I get through the day.
To all the kiddies triflin bout your rich brethren.
"Gold Digger"
(feat. Jamie Foxx)
[Jamie Foxx]
She take my money when I'm in need
Yea she's a trifflin friend indeed
Oh she's a gold digga way over town
That dig's on me
[Chorus:]
(She takes my money)
Now I ain't sayin' she a gold digger (When I'm in Need)
But she ain't messin' wit no broke niggaz
(She takes my money)
Now I ain't sayin' she a gold digger (When I'm in need)
But she ain't messin' wit no broke niggaz
Get down girl gone head get down (I gotta leave)
Get down girl gone head get down (I gotta leave)
Get down girl gone head get down (I gotta leave)
Get down girl gone head
[Verse 1:]
Cutie the bomb
Met her at a beauty salon
With a baby louis vuitton
Under her underarm
She said I can tell you ROC
I can tell by ya charm
Far as girls you got a flock
I can tell by ya charm and ya arm
but I'm lookin for the one
have you seen her
My psychic told me she have a ass like Serena
Trina, Jennifer Lopez, four kids
An I gotta take all they bad ass to show-biz
Ok get ya kids but then they got their friends
I Pulled up in the Benz, they all got up In
We all went to Den and then I had to pay
If you fuckin with this girl then you betta be payed
You know why
It take too much to touch her
From what I heard she got a baby by Busta
My best friend say she use to fuck wit Usher
I dont care what none of yall say I still love her
[Chorus:]
(She takes my money)
Now I ain't sayin' she a gold digger (When I'm in Need)
But she ain't messin' wit no broke niggaz
(She takes my money)
Now I ain't sayin' she a gold digger (When I'm in need)
but she ain't messin' wit no broke niggaz
get down girl gone head get down (I gotta leave)
get down girl gone head get down (I gotta leave)
get down girl gone head get down (I gotta leave)
get down girl gone head
[Verse 2:]
18 years, 18 years
She got one of yo kids got you for 18 years
I know somebody payin child support for one of his kids
His baby momma's car and crib is bigger than his
You will see him on TV Any Given Sunday
Win the Superbowl and drive off in a Hyundai
She was spose to buy ya shorty TYCO with ya money
She went to the doctor got lypo with ya money
She walkin around lookin like Michael with ya money
Should of got that insured got GEICO for ya moneeey
If you aint no punk holla We Want Prenup
WE WANT PRENUP!, Yeaah
It's something that you need to have
Cause when she leave yo ass she gone leave with half
18 years, 18 years
And on her 18th birthday he found out it wasn't his
[Chorus:]
(She takes my money)
Now I ain't sayin' she a gold digger (When I'm in Need)
But she ain't messin' wit no broke niggaz
(She takes my money)
Now I ain't sayin' she a gold digger (When I'm in need)
but she ain't messin' wit no broke niggaz
get down girl gone head get down (I gotta leave)
get down girl gone head get down (I gotta leave)
get down girl gone head get down (I gotta leave)
get down girl gone head
[Verse 3:]
Now I aint sayin you a gold digger you got needs
You dont want ya du
Vicki --
Do cults count? Jim Jones, People's Temple.
Wow, and I thought *I* was unhelpful...
Crap. I fucked up the link. Dammit.
btw, if you just copy/paste the whole http://..... address, you don't need to add the <a href= tag - helloscan does it for you. but you have to include the http://.
like http://atrios.blogspot.com
Litz--velour sweatsuits are on sale at Old Navy this weekend. $20 for the whole thing.
I watched the CNN segment on fundie Christian sex toy parties. (I am so not kidding)
Did they feature one of these? (Found at Rampaging PMS)
I watched the CNN segment on fundie Christian sex toy parties. (I am so not kidding)
Did they feature one of these? (Found at Rampaging PMS)
I'd say cults are part of it, if DWD agrees.
nite moonbats
Jahovah!
Jahovah!
Jahovah!
Who?
.
Please don't be depressed. Have some soup.
Marcia Brady ∞ | 11.26.05 - 8:04 pm | #
vodka soup?
DWD, Hindus and the expectation of the widow hopping on hubby's funeral pyre.
NTodd--that's just too weird.
How was T-day and how's the boy?
I bought a bunch of croissants today.
Nothin' like a good flaky warm croissant. Yum.
.
Speaking of penises and Hummers, the last two Hummers I've seen in my neighborhood have been driven by young blondes.
What is up with that?
G'nite Moon!
Jahovah!
"The next person to say 'Jehovah'..."
(stoning commences)
Will someone here fetch the laundry? I just sat down.
From Litz's link:
Wouldn't it be nice to have a list of sexual practices categorized by "sinful" or "okay"? Is there such a list? Would everyone agree with the list? Is there a solution to this dilemma?
I've been waiting for a list. I hope it has a handy area to check off completed tasks...
Later, lovely Moonbats. I'm off to transgress the basis of Western Civ. for a bit.
This is the ultimate Christain sex toy.
Did they feature one of these? (Found at Rampaging PMS)
NTodd
Oh. my. God.
that's just wrong.
Speaking of penises and Hummers, the last two Hummers I've seen in my neighborhood have been driven by young blondes.
What is up with that?
Young blondes have notoriously small penises.
Auntie GWPDA--have you been hit with windstorms?
sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere
Breezy - was out admiring my newest Chinese pistache and estimating its strength and decided that it was sturdy enough to withstand a good wind. Now, whether or not the 100' eucalyptus is equally able, we won't know til the morning.....
Jahovah!
Who?
.
spork_incident
I'm going to have to put the Life of Brian DVD in. That "stoning" scene always makes me laugh.
Judge to the soon to be stoned person, "You're only making it worse for yourself."
Did they feature one of these? (Found at Rampaging PMS)
NTodd
That is so fundamentally wrong.
LYoung blondes have notoriously small penises.
Eli
/grimace/
Did they feature one of these? (Found at Rampaging PMS)
Lordy lordy. Who would be the target market for that?!
.
See, they've got rules for everything:
Christian Sex Rules
A guide to what's allowed in the bedroom
Litz, Velour Sweatsuit Media | Email | 11.26.05 - 8:04 pm | #
a better one is at http://www.freewayblogger.com/ab...ceonly/
home.htm
"ask dr frist" gives some good advice.
Bo, did you know that was covered in the Seven Voyages of Sinbad the Sailor? He is married to a beautiful woman, she takes sick and dies and he is thrown into the tomb with her. Since they buried their dead with their wealth he collected it all and followed a badger into its hole and out again.
BIG SLEEP ON TCM RIGHT THIS SECOND!!!!
Speaking of penises and Hummers, the last two Hummers I've seen in my neighborhood have been driven by young blondes.
What is up with that?
Penis envy?
I wish my cat would pee in her litterbox and not the towel I have at the back door for when the dogs come in with muddy feet. She has gotten so strange lately.
The it's the Baby Jesus
Butt Plug?
Oh please, people. This is getting out of hand. Stop, please.
driven by young blondes.
Must EVERYBODY be blonde? Stop it! Be yourself.
America is filled with horrible dye jobs.
.
I forgot that Eli was in the room.
from the above site's "ask the bishop" page:
All kidding aside, there's nothing "in vain" about firing your load all over your faith partner's face and tits. The bible specifically admonishes Onan for "spilling his seed upon the ground", so as long as your aim is good, you have nothing to worry about
mer,
kitty is making an editorial comment about the doggies methinks.
I wish my cat would pee in her litterbox and not the towel I have at the back door for when the dogs come in with muddy feet. She has gotten so strange lately.
mer
Might be trying to tell you something.
Has she been to the vet lately.
Maybe she has a bladder infection.
Doing only what is mutually agreeable sexually means that each partner will make sacrifices for the sake of intimacy. A wife may give herself more frequently or try a variety of sexual experiences that go beyond her comfort zone. A husband may relinquish some sexual fantasy or adjust his demands for intercourse twice a day just to show love to his mate. Those exercises in personal restraint are not easy, but help build the oneness of intimacy.
Oh, that's right. Women only make the painful sacrifice of having sex in order to show love to their mate.
Apparently God's a voyeur:
We doubt that God's surprised by the intensity of our sexual desire or of its fulfillment. Seeing us enjoy the passion and pleasure seems to fit with his creative nature.
I hope he doesn't have a camera...
Did they feature one of these? (Found at Rampaging PMS)
NTodd
"Come to Jesus"
-- Bill O'Reilly
Dirk's 8:10 is just too much.
Y'all have a good evening. Catch you tomorrow.
firing your load all over your faith partner's face
Except,maybe, that it's a little demeaning?
Ohh, now there's some fun. The next time you tangle with a winger, use the injunction against Onan as a Biblical argument for condoms and safe sex.
I wish my cat would pee in her litterbox and not the towel I have at the back door for when the dogs come in with muddy feet. She has gotten so strange lately.
Strom used to do that.
-Liddy Dole
Dirk's 8:10 is just too much.
Y'all have a good evening. Catch you tomorrow.
Litz, Velour Sweatsuit Media | Email | 11.26.05 - 8:11 pm | #
oops, didn't mean to chase anyone off. i never know when to stop.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
actually, according to the set theory of Georg Kantor, some infinities are bigger than others. For example the set of all irrational numbers is greater than the set of all integers. And the series of ever greater infinite sets continues infinitely.
"Us libs have infected the minds of the public against the war"
If that's true, then I am proud to have done my part.
A husband may relinquish some sexual fantasy or adjust his demands for intercourse twice a day just to show love to his mate.
Maybe I have underestimated these christian boys.
I'm going to go to hell for this, but it's one of those things that someone says to you that for the rest of your life you wish you'd never heard, because you can't forget it, so the best thing you can do is to make sure that as many people as possible are also saddled with it:
Jesus is coming. Will you swallow?
HOLY 70s, on the Tee Vee they are advertising the "Fry Daddy" deep fryer.
Jeebus, they still make those?
Just back in from going up my ridge and looking up at the Mysteries. Sorry so many of you live where the night isn't truly dark.
It's also good that i live far enough out from the lights that i can get away with being only surface-deep in conformity. Nobody knows that, out here, we are pagan and teach science. Best of all, the few neighbors we have have seen me shooting targets against the ridge (as they themselves do), which (1) makes me look like the locals, and (2) Reminds them not to come on the property without polite advance notice - defending the home and all that.
But about fundies and sex - some years ago, reading history, i found a thesis that showed that, given the 'parish' records, about 60% of first children born in the Puritan colonies arrived less than 9 months after marriage.
Implication: despite stocks, scarlet letters, etc, people kept a-fucking.
If the Puritans couldn't stop it then, what the Hell makes their modern counterparts theink THEY can? Hubris?
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Women only make the painful sacrifice of having sex in order to show love to their mate.
CEA
Or to make babies.
mer,
Is Ms. Kitty spayed? Maybe she's trying leave an availability message as close to the door as possible.
A husband may relinquish some sexual fantasy or adjust his demands for intercourse twice a day just to show love to his mate. Those exercises in personal restraint are not easy, but help build the oneness of intimacy.
Oh, that's right. Women only make the painful sacrifice of having sex in order to show love to their mate.
Maybe they meant twice a day wasn't enough?
Maybe I have underestimated these christian boys.
Marcia Brady ∞
It only said "twice a day." It said nothing about quality or duration.
HOLY 70s, on the Tee Vee they are advertising the "Fry Daddy" deep fryer
How many houses were set on fire this year with people trying to fry their turkeys in one of those?
Jesus is coming. Will you swallow?
Jennifer
I gave myself to Jesus.
And then he never called!
I dunno if anyone else has missed Elaine Supkis, but I certainly have. Is she okay>
But according to one of these guides, bestiality is a no no. It's good to remind Christian married couples against bestiality, in case they feek like doing it.
I have some friends who have just arrived. We'll have a nice Saturday evening visit. They never stay long; they are travelers. I plan to be back. Peace out for now.
Jeebus, they still make those?
As long as Ron Popeil is alive cheesy ads will survive.
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Except,maybe, that it's a little demeaning?
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat
Depends on how you mean it. It could be the tribute-offering of life energy by a male thrall. You're thinking like a patriarchal girl (territory marking) and not like a thelemite latex vampire bitch.
I'm going to go to hell for this, but it's one of those things
Jennifer
Thanks for sharing. If you get there first, save me a seat next to you, ok?
Attaturk--maybe fat food is fashionable again?
How many houses were set on fire this year with people trying to fry their turkeys in one of those?
watertiger
Shall I try, here? I betcha I could set fire to this joint in under ten minutes - given my inability to keep from hitting my head on things....
Ba'al--the concept of multiple infinites is a challenge at times for me to wrap my tiny brain around.
If the Puritans couldn't stop it then, what the Hell makes their modern counterparts theink THEY can? Hubris? - Cynicus
Well there's shitwitted stupidity.
GWPDA, The ONLY advantage to being 5'8"
Here's another doozer from Litz's Christian Sex Rules:
Perpetuating Genital Union
We delight in sexual playfulness and creative ways to pleasure one another, but unless it is not physically possible for a couple, we think nothing you do should completely replace genital union. The symbolism of having the embrace of vagina to penis and total giving of the erect penis to the welcoming vaginal canal is a recurring reminder that we were created for each other. The intimacy of that connectedness should awaken our most primitive desire for oneness. To enjoy sexual release in that most passionate form of embrace welds us into oneness like few other experiences.
Isn't that just a way of saying "missionary position rulez"?
Maybe they meant twice a day wasn't enough?
Eli
But there needs to be time for the cooking and the cleaning and the sewing of gingham curtains.
Sallyh, made your recipe for chocolate chip cookies today. They are excellent but I have a question: we use this really good Mexican Vanilla. Is this supposed to be diluted or are they supposed to taste so much like Vanilla and chocolate?
As long as Ron Popeil is alive cheesy ads will survive.
how many lives were made better by the creation of the Pocket Fisherman?!
actually, according to the set theory of Georg Kantor, some infinities are bigger than others. For example the set of all irrational numbers is greater than the set of all integers. And the series of ever greater infinite sets continues infinitely.
Ba'al | Homepage | 11.26.05 - 8:13 pm | #
Isn't that Cantor? And Katz disagrees, but in the wrong direction; he believes Cantor is flawed in thinking that all infinite sets of integers are the same size.
quark, quark.
Ba'al--the concept of multiple infinites is a challenge at times for me to wrap my tiny brain around.
sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere
You know what? I have no idea about this, except in the greatest concept. I understand the title of the theory in theory.
How do I learn more?
Fluffy - if you read the footnotes, you'll see that also, socks must remain on.
DWD--in my world, the distinct flavors of both vanilla and chocolate should be present, but if you don't like that much vanilla flavoring, dilute it by half. I use Bourbon vanilla at Christmas--wonderful flavor.
total giving of the erect penis to the welcoming vaginal canal
"Real Christians go balls-deep."
"Your'e concave, I'm convex, welcome to the wonderful world of sex." Steve Goodman
"Might be trying to tell you something.
Has she been to the vet lately.
Maybe she has a bladder infection."
--Terry C Sez Bush Sux
Well no, she has not been to the vet lately, because she is not a very friendly cat. Last time she was at the vet was when she was spayed, 10 years ago. I had to go back and take her out of the cage because she wouldn't let anyone else touch her. Actually, she hates almost everyone except me. She has mellowed some, but the thought of taking her to the vet makes me shudder. But I guess I should.
But there needs to be time for the cooking and the cleaning and the sewing of gingham curtains.
I would be willing to waive the gingham curtains requirement.
Although we would definitely need *some* kind of curtains...
Watertiger--what about the Veg-o-matic, the forerunner of the food processor? Were lives not immeasurably made more delicious?
Isn't that just a way of saying "missionary position rulez"?
Funny, in today's podcast I talk about Lilith and how she wouldn't "lie underneath".
Isn't that just a way of saying "missionary position rulez"?
Fluffy Halifax
I don't think that paragraph precludes girl-on-top.
My cousins had not one but TWO turkey-frying outfits for this year's Thanksgiving.
Of course, they were set up right by the swimming pool In Case Something Went Wrong.
I should note that one of the cousins had tried frying a turkey in his garage one Thanksgiving when it was raining. Oops. It's amazing he didn't burn his house down.
Fried turkey is actually pretty good.
Does anyone besides me like Steve Goodman, BTW?
how many lives were made better by the creation of the Pocket Fisherman?!
The Popeil Pocket Fisherman™ and Handy Nuclear Device!
[/robert klein]
(Dear sweet jesus I'm old.)
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DWD--I like 'The Lincoln Park Pirates.'
Were lives not immeasurably made more delicious?
You guys obviously aren't awake at 2am. Ron Popeil's cousin has these really kuhl knives!
G'night. I'm putting my head down.
sallyh ~ how can thre be multiple infinites?
how many lives were made better by the creation of the Pocket Fisherman?!
Two. And seventeen were destroyed in tragic Pocket Fisherman accidents.
I don't think that paragraph precludes girl-on-top.
Marcia Brady ∞
That might be precluded by the more general biblical injunction against fun.
genital union
what poetry. yeeesh.
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For some, receiving the erect cock in the mouth and taking the load is akin to the rituals of Catholic Mass.
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I would be willing to waive the gingham curtains requirement.
Eli
Then who is going to do the cooking and cleaning?
Sallyh, Me to. And A DYING CUB FAN'S LAST REQUEST and almost everything else. Listening to GOD BLESS OUR MOBILE HOME.
Chicago must have been fun with Bob Gibson and Steve Goodman and John Prine all performing at the same time.
Vicki--all numbers are infinite. All sets of numbers are infinite. There are different sets of different types of numbers. All are infinite. Therefore, there are multiple infinities.
unless it is not physically possible for a couple, we think nothing you do should completely replace genital union.
Translation: oral sex is right out!
"Attaturk--maybe fat food is fashionable again?"
--sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere
Fat food has always be fashionable, just eat too much of it, but partake, it keeps us (me) happy.
For some, receiving the erect cock in the mouth and taking the load is akin to the rituals of Catholic Mass.
Dartanyon
For some altar boys, those are the rituals of Catholic mass.
Was anyone else tempted by the offer of the free Ginsu knives?
Ooh, I know! Hotel and room service.
Problem solved.
total giving of the erect penis to the welcoming vaginal canal
These Christians are taking my chubby away.
"Real Christians go balls-deep."
Hey, wasn't that the rallying cry of the Crusades?
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Then who is going to do the cooking and cleaning?
To be honest, you don't *want* it to be me. Unless you like frozen food and black lung.
sallyh - i spent the afternoon doing synthetic division of polynomials.
i love the holidays.
Was anyone else tempted by the offer of the free Ginsu knives? - sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere
I only know what my Aunt's cutlery drawer tells me.
Vicki were you here the night somebody was explain dimensions? Made my non-scientific head hurt but increased my wonder. I think he came up with 27 different dimension. Gives one new respect for HP Lovecraft.
Nobody can afford hummers and McMansions, our society cannot afford these foolish trinkets. Those that go into hock for such crapola are much smaller than those who don't. America has reached a very ow point, indeed, if the media will sell this crap instead of writing the truth about it.
Dirk--Sounds kind of fun to me--I cleaned the guest room. I'd have preferred what you did
But according to one of these guides, bestiality is a no no. It's good to remind Christian married couples against bestiality, in case they feel like doing it.
Arabella
Have the Santorums been told?
sallyh ~ that makes sense.
And I can visualize it. More x More = More.
I am no math whiz...
Thanks ~ *mwah*!
Ooh, I know! Hotel and room service.
Problem solved.
Underwater.
These Christians are taking my chubby away.
They'll take my chubby from my cold, dead hands...
So, if I am to understand it, 'real' Christians teabag?
For some, receiving the erect cock in the mouth and taking the load is akin to the rituals of Catholic Mass.
Dartanyon
For some altar boys, those are the rituals of Catholic mass.
CEA
Not to mention a few Jesuits I've known in my hallow, glory days.
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For those of you who like your Christian Sex Instruction with a little flair...
Watertiger and I did give you some insight last week.
These Christians are taking my chubby away.
Attaturk
I could be wrong, but maybe that's part of the plan.
Vicki--there is a lot more to the theories, and a huge number of ongoing disputes, but that seems to be the underlying hypothesis.
WTF?
Jews were "justifiably persecuted"?
These people are batshit insane.
They'll take my chubby from my cold, dead hands...
NTodd
Cold, dead hands, also take my chubby away.
In my experience at least.
They'll take my chubby from my cold, dead hands...
Cold, dead hands would do it for me too.
How do I learn more?
Vicki | Email | Homepage | 11.26.05 - 8:21 pm | #
well, you could try http://dmoz.org/Science/Math/Log...ons/Set_Theory/
one of the better links is "a crash course in the mathematics of infinite sets".
I wonder if Daryn Kagen feels she's practicing bestiality when she fucks Rush? You know, human on pig?
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Underwater.
Eli
Yay! See you in 2007!
You can wait, right?
D'oh!
Watertiger and I did give you some insight last week.
Attaturk
I cannot read that again without making my appointment at the convent.
genital union
Wasn't that a '60s band?
one of the better links is "a crash course in the mathematics of infinite sets".
Awesome!!!!
Oh... *sets*.
Eli--I'm so sad--our guest arrived right after 'Rave to the Grave' started.
What's on tap for tonight?
Jews were "justifiably persecuted"?
Well, all that Xtian baby eating, money grubbing, and stabbing Germany in the back during WWI sure has got to come back to bite them in the ass some day.
Attaturk and Watertiger--sort of gives a whole new twist on 'thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me.'
dirk, I don't have a list. But after that link, you are on the anti-list! I'm competing with Holden!
Yay! See you in 2007!
You can wait, right?
*bites fingernails down to the bone*
What's on tap for tonight?
Manticore! Some kind of military vs. creature thing.
"You might want to go back and brush up on your history, witchcraft was quite popular, even within the Church, for an awfully long time. In fact, it's back today in the form of Wicca. In its denial of the basis of Western Civilization it is so transgressive that it deserved to be and was persecuted"
Translation: You shall have no god save the one WE deem appropriate!
Watertiger--what about the Veg-o-matic, the forerunner of the food processor? Were lives not immeasurably made more delicious?
sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere | Email | Homepage | 11.26.05 - 8:23 pm | #
how about the "in-the-egg egg scrambler"? tag line (really): now your french toast won't look like a used hankie!
Cold, dead hands, also take my chubby away.
In my experience at least. - Attaturk
Sounds like you've gone someplace the rest of us haven't.
Attaturk and Watertiger--sort of gives a whole new twist on 'thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me.'
sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere
Not helping at all...
Eli--it might have potential, seeing as there's a creature involved.
COTTON MATHER LIVES!
Sorry.
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Eli--it might have potential, seeing as there's a creature involved.
I think you would have liked The Bone Snatcher, which is wrapping up now.
Cold, dead hands, also take my chubby away.
Damn, I wish I could remember the comedian who talked about his hand falling asleep, and jerking off with it because it felt like it was someone else's...
And christianity isn't western civilization.
Ô¿Ô
you're right, IMHO.
Beethoven is as sick an individual who has ever lived.
my other thought is, if infinity is infinity, how can it be multiple? Time and space continuum?
Any of you who heard my rants about the since sliced bread site for the past week or so might appreciate this story.
I got so disgusted by the level of stupidity on the site that I put up the dumbest idea I could think of, just to see if it would make the "most active" list. It succeeded in a big way.
Part of my issue with the site is that there's really no way to sort through the 90 - 95% of the ideas that are chaff. The only easily searchable list is the daily "most active" list, which is where the very dumbest ideas show up. Most of the people using the site aren't able to tell a good idea from a bad one. And even more of them are more motivated by piling on people they perceive to be less intelligent than they are, than they are with noting or commenting on the few good ideas there are.
So I proposed a "Stupidity Tax", saying that this would make sure that people who cause all the problems are the ones who pay for them. I even tipped the crowd off to the fact that I was snarking by going into a rant about how there would be FREE PONIES for EVERYONE at the very end.
Result? My idea was at the top of the "Most Active" list, NUMERO UNO, for something like 36 hours - all Thanksgiving day. It stayed on the list for over 2-1/2 days. At least half the reviewers seemed to miss that it was a stupid joke. Even after I posted a comment pointing out that it was an intentionally stupid idea aimed at soliciting stupid responses.
Do you ever feel like you're really just tired of people?
dirk, I don't have a list. But after that link, you are on the anti-list! I'm competing with Holden!
Vicki
what was that?
i wasn't list
ening.
Damn, I wish I could remember the comedian who talked about his hand falling asleep, and jerking off with it because it felt like it was someone else's...
Tom Arnold.
Manticore! Some kind of military vs. creature thing.
Eli
My DirecTV guide describes it thusly:
"A vengeful IRAQI unleashes a legendary creature."
Zarqawistine?
Manticore! Some kind of military vs. creature thing.
Unleashed by a "vengeful" iraqi, no less.
I hope it's a large creature. I find large, toothy creatures engaged in eatage much more satisfying than swarms of little ones.
Eli--as my sister in law is visiting from Phoenix next weekend, I was forced to make the guest room clean and presentable. As it used to be Mlle's room, it involved a fair bit of effort.
genital union
Does anyone have a card-carrying member?
Beethoven is as sick an individual who has ever lived.
yil
And this point, he's not likely to recover.
Do you ever feel like you're really just tired of people?
Yes. Every single day of my life.
4Legs--you and me both. I like it better, though, when the humans can't be swallowed whole, and you get to see them bleeding and tortured.
What?! Haven't you seen what terrible actors these people are?!
Zarqawistine?
Iraqacabra?
Zarqawistine?
Zarqawisquito.
Beethoven is as sick an individual who has ever lived.
Who is the weird Beethoven troll? It's just...weird.
"A vengeful IRAQI unleashes a legendary creature."
Zarqawistine?
Attaturk
Zaraqwizilla?
One good thing about these internets is that all these shitheads are out there - confirmably, cut-and-pastably.
This is the kind of stuff you might hear in a bar or something and dismiss as a lot of old talk, but to think there are people who actually set their names to it in public - it's an eye-opener.
Blame the jews, blame the blacks, blame the gays -- the font of hatred doesn't change much from decade to decade.
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Dartanyon
Let's not forget them uppity, disobedient wimmin.
Zarqawistine
Zarqawi vs Mothra?
(Or Mechazarqawi?)
my other thought is, if infinity is infinity, how can it be multiple? Time and space continuum?
Vicki | Email | Homepage | 11.26.05 - 8:35 pm | #
there are two kinds of infinity (at least) - potential infinity, which is infinity as traveling through time, or continually adding 1 to a number; and actual infinity, which is what set theory addresses. the space time continuum is potential, which is why it makes for better movies.
Who is the weird Beethoven troll? It's just...weird.
Usually they're only required to non sequitroll for one day to fulfill the initiation requirement.
4Legs--you and me both. I like it better, though, when the humans can't be swallowed whole, and you get to see them bleeding and tortured.
Me too.
It must last a while and they must scream loudly for several moments.
While bleeding profusely and dragging entrails about haplessly.
Every single day of my life.
four legs good
Ditto.
Blame the jews, blame the blacks, blame the gays -- the font of hatred doesn't change much from decade to decade.
.
Dartanyon
there is an infinite amount of blame to go around.
potentially.
Zaraqwizilla?
Zarqawizilla v. Megadonrumsfeld!
Do you ever feel like you're really just tired of people?
Jennifer | Email | Homepage | 11.26.05 - 8:35 pm | # .............>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ive felt that way for the past 20 years.
Awright. Until the movie comes on:
FAVOURATE NOVEL!
Me? White Noise, Don Delillo.
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Zarqawi vs Mothra?
(Or Mechazarqawi?)
Monster Zarqawi?
Zarqaws: The Revenge?
Zarqawizilla v. Megacondi!
Do you ever feel like you're really just tired of people?
Yes. Every single day of my life.
four legs good
Just CERTAIN people.
I'd like to round them all up, transport to a deserted island someplace, name the place Dumbfuckistan and leave them there.
Ditto.
It's probably why I enjoy bad sci-fi movies.
I like seeing stupid people get eaten.
Chupaladen.
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Let's not forget them uppity, disobedient wimmin.
I hate them for not sleeping with me!
(did I just say that out loud?)
Do you ever feel like you're really just tired of people?
Let me think about that for a second yes.
Do you ever feel like you're really just tired of people?
Yes. Every single day of my life.
four legs good | Email | 11.26.05 - 8:36 pm | #
people, and the not so intelligent designer who put them here.
or as linus van pelt once said, "i love mankind; it's people i can't stand."
Eli--that's because you didn't ask them to sleep with you!
Count Zarqula?
Zaraqwizilla?
Zarqawizilla v. Megadonrumsfeld!
watertiger
(looking at what appear to be a sexy pair of legs)
"Saaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy"
(finding they belong to a short pants Japanese Boy)
"ah, nevermind"
I hate them for not sleeping with me!
I don't want them to "sleep" with me.
They can go home afterwards.
Eli--that's because you didn't ask them to sleep with you!
Well, there is that. But they should have sensed my interest and thrown themselves at me!
Do you ever feel like you're really just tired of people?
I'm trying to turn that into amusement-
But it's hard work. HAAAARD wark.
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Do you ever feel like you're really just tired of people?
Weekdays 8 to 6 in particular.
Do you ever feel like you're really just tired of people?
It's healthy to get be in touch with your inner Grendel every now and then.
mmm - vodka martini on the way. being married ain't so bad.
it's only november and it hasn't even snowed yet:
November 27, 2005
As Heating Costs Soar, Middle Class Seeks Aid
By PAUL VITELLO
STONY BROOK, N.Y. - The main government assistance office in Suffolk County sits just off a busy road in an office park surrounded by a neighborhood of deep lawns and two-car garages. Everyone for miles around uses that road every day. But until recently hardly anyone from the neighborhood - people whose status in the middle class was thought secured unquestionably by home ownership - ever turned into the office park to seek help inside the county's nondescript building.
This year, they have come in from the fear of the cold.
They are retirees, young couples, the temporarily unemployed, the two-income families stretched to the limit of second mortgages and credit cards, a slice of the suburban demographic that social workers call "mortgage rich and pocket poor."
..."We have more people applying for help, and more of them are in a higher income group than we've seen before," said Mark Wolfe, executive director of the National Energy Assistance Directors Association, a group of 50 state directors in charge of administering a federal home energy assistance program that offers one-time-per-winter cash benefits of $100 to $500.
"The sense is that there is a crisis coming," Mr. Wolfe said. "The question is, can the government get ahead of it?"
Other advocates worry more about the choices some people will face if this winter is very cold. In a study released this year by the National Regulatory Resources Institute, the research arm of the National Association of Regulatory Utility Commissioners, people who struggled with their winter heating bills reported varying degrees having gone without food, without medicine or dental care, having taken less medication or missed mortgage payments.
"We never missed a mortgage payment or a tax bill," said a woman at a government assistance office in Nassau County last week. "But we've been without heat or hot water since around March."
Gloria Boyd, a social worker from Notre Dame Roman Catholic Church in New Hyde Park who was helping the woman apply for assistance, leaned into the conversation at that point: "You should know that people come to our food pantry because they're paying for their utilities and their oil and they can't afford to buy food. Write that down. This is a bad situation."
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/
2...agewanted=print
with blue cheese stuffed olives! she's earned something special tonight!
Well, there is that. But they should have sensed my interest and thrown themselves at me!
Eli
I just figured you required an appointment, two years in advance.
Well, it's good to know that I'm in good company.
But isn't this a bit of paradox - a community of misanthropes?
Count Zarqula?
Frankenladen.
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Eli--that's because you didn't ask them to sleep with you!
I was under the impression we weren't supposed to do that.
Do you ever feel like you're really just tired of people?
Even more often than I have that "not so fresh feeling"
I'm with GWPDA on this going outside crap.
The roads around here are small and curvey and dark, no moon or stars tonight. I don't see in the dark like I used to, so I breathed a sigh of relief when I pulled in to the driveway.
Twice when a huge vehicle was coming toward me I totally lost track of where the side of the road was, damn near took out a mailbox.
Guess I'm heading to where my Mom is; She refuses to drive after dark.
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I just figured you required an appointment, two years in advance.
Well, usually. But sometimes I only have to wait 6-8 months.
BKNY--it's gonna be a long, cold winter.
Attaturk--psst. Massengill.
The roads around here are small and curvey and dark, no moon or stars tonight. I don't see in the dark like I used to, so I breathed a sigh of relief when I pulled in to the driveway.
Twice when a huge vehicle was coming toward me I totally lost track of where the side of the road was, damn near took out a mailbox.
Guess I'm heading to where my Mom is; She refuses to drive after dark.
That's Robert Frost, right?
But isn't this a bit of paradox - a community of misanthropes?
Jennifer
I really only get tired of people after they've bumped into me all day long. Otherwise, people are okay...
I really only get tired of people after they've bumped into me all day long. Otherwise, people are okay...
Dammit.
People can talk about Beethoven all they like. Nobody wrote the way he did.
Do you ever feel like you're really just tired of people?
Even more often than I have that "not so fresh feeling"
Attaturk
I ride the bus twice a day, one hour each way. I would answer that question with a big "yes", and even Mssengill can't ease that.
I wonder if Daryn Kagen feels she's practicing bestiality when she fucks Rush? You know, human on pig?
parts of my brain just melted. and they were good parts, too. i'm going to miss them.
People always claim Mozart and Bach were geniuses. But you never see random driveby strangers coming out of the Eschaton woodwork to sing *their* praises.
I guess there's no chance of Stanford beating Notre Dame, huh?
I hate them for not sleeping with me!
(did I just say that out loud?)
Eli | Email | Homepage | 11.26.05 - 8:40 pm | #
Misogynist
Dammit.
Eli
Like on the train. Or Times Square. Or in chinatown.
I ride the bus twice a day, one hour each way. I would answer that question with a big "yes", and even Mssengill can't ease that.
Bus hatred (only one letter short of Bush hatred) was one of the primary reasons I moved to where I could walk to work...
People can talk about Beethoven all they like. Nobody wrote the way he did.
jacob | 11.26.05 - 8:46 pm | #
you can talk about beethoven all you like because he can't hear you.
So who here in our community is an Anime aficionado? (I'm not)
At the request of my niece I got her something called the "Full Metal Alchemist" is that good?
I guess there's no chance of Stanford beating Notre Dame, huh?
Not really, no.
Like on the train. Or Times Square. Or in chinatown.
All in the same day, or can we spread it out a little?
parts of my brain just melted. and they were good parts, too. i'm going to miss them.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
At the request of my niece I got her something called the "Full Metal Alchemist" is that good?
I know NYMary's older daughter is a fan.
I was under the impression we weren't supposed to do that.
NTodd | Email | Homepage | 11.26.05 - 8:43 pm | #
yes, ou have to ask. and no means no,
you can talk about beethoven all you like because he can't hear you.
You can say what you like to Debussy, but there's not much of 'im left to 'ear.
The vengeful iraqi will turn out to be a baker from downtown Baghdad who is pissed off that the americans blew up his newly renovated bakery with the brand new coolio ovens in their quest to get Saddam during the invasion.
So he finds his crazy brother-in-law, who knows a sunni mystic who lives in a hut in the desert and enlists him to unleash the manticore.
And a plague of sand spiders.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/...27/
ixworld.html
'Trophy' video exposes private security contractors shooting up Iraqi drivers
By Sean Rayment, Defence Correspondent
(Filed: 27/11/2005)
A "trophy" video appearing to show security guards in Baghdad randomly shooting Iraqi civilians has sparked two investigations after it was posted on the internet, the Sunday Telegraph can reveal.
The video has sparked concern that private security companies, which are not subject to any form of regulation either in Britain or in Iraq, could be responsible for the deaths of hundreds of innocent Iraqis.
Lt Col Spicer
Lt Col Tim Spicer is investigating the incident
The video, which first appeared on a website that has been linked unofficially to Aegis Defence Services, contained four separate clips, in which security guards open fire with automatic rifles at civilian cars. All of the shooting incidents apparently took place on "route Irish", a road that links the airport to Baghdad.
The road has acquired the dubious distinction of being the most dangerous in the world because of the number of suicide attacks and ambushes carried out by insurgents against coalition troops. In one four-month period earlier this year it was the scene of 150 attacks.
In one of the videoed attacks, a Mercedes is fired on at a distance of several hundred yards before it crashes in to a civilian taxi. In the last clip, a white civilian car is raked with machine gun fire as it approaches an unidentified security company vehicle. Bullets can be seen hitting the vehicle before it comes to a slow stop.
There are no clues as to the shooter but either a Scottish or Irish accent can be heard in at least one of the clips above Elvis Presley's Mystery Train, the music which accompanies the video.
snip
The video first appeared on the website www.aegisIraq.co.uk. The website states: "This site does not belong to Aegis Defence Ltd, it belongs to the men on the ground who are the heart and soul of the company." The clips have been removed.
The website also contains a message from Lt Col Spicer, which reads: "I am concerned about media interest in this site and I remind everyone of their contractual obligation not to speak to or assist the media without clearing it with the project management or Aegis London.
"Refrain from posting anything which is detrimental to the company since this could result in the loss or curtailment of our contract with resultant loss for everybody."
etc.
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And sometimes they tell us what they really do.
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BKNY, what was that 12 inches of white stuff I shoveled out of my driveway this afternoon then?
It is just the peonage society personified. Pretty soon we will be beholden to the man for sustenance. But I am tired of screaming: WAKE UP YOU STUPID MOTHERFUCKERS so I will not.
Some of the credit card stories I am hearing are incredible. Running your rates up cause they THINK you might not pay them: talk about a self-fulfilling prophesy. (and fuck you BIDEN too)
Attaturk--psst. Massengill.
So Attaturk isn't feeling all that fresh?
Who knew?
.
All in the same day, or can we spread it out a little?
Eli
Well, if you require 6 to 8 months, then I guess we would have to.
"newsbot on pig"... sort of a crime against pigs and/or 'bots, but not humanity.
"tired of people?"-- yeah. sometimes. My personal antidote to that is to seriously consider how much slack people must cut me, and that I can't usually tell when it's happening.
Bus hatred (only one letter short of Bush hatred) was one of the primary reasons I moved to where I could walk to work...
Eli
Eli, it is the great leveler. And I am constantly reminded how many walking wounded there are out there - along with the relatively well-off who are assholes.
So he finds his crazy brother-in-law, who knows a sunni mystic who lives in a hut in the desert and enlists him to unleash the manticore.
And a plague of sand spiders.
Don't you mean camel spiders?
And after the manticore... the lasagnacore and the cannelonicore!
BKNY--it's gonna be a long, cold winter.
sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere
yea, and i hope some newscast has kept handy a videotape of the oil company honchos' appearance before congress -- esp the exxon ceo, who said in response to the question of the oil companies devoting some of their profits to low-cost heating oil funds for the poor, that it wasn't the responsibility of private business -- that was a function of government.
People can talk about Beethoven all they like. Nobody wrote the way he did.
Nobody wrote like Lewis Carroll (i.e., under the influence of opium).
yes, ou have to ask. and no means no,
Oh.
Soooooo......
Anybody wanna, you know...sleep with me?
You can say what you like to Debussy, but there's not much of 'im left to 'ear.
Eli | Email | Homepage | 11.26.05 - 8:50 pm | #
think van gough took marc anthony too literally?
At the request of my niece I got her something called the "Full Metal Alchemist" is that good?
I know NYMary's older daughter is a fan.
watertiger
Ah good. My niece is about 13 so it sounds like its about the right thing.
...I know sooooo little about Anime, just not my geek bailiwick
Anybody wanna, you know...sleep with me?
NTodd | Email | Homepage | 11.26.05 - 8:53 pm | #
alright. but just this once.
and no funny business, i need the rest.
Well, if you require 6 to 8 months, then I guess we would have to.
No, it's usually required of me. And they usually find an excuse to get a way at around Month 5...
Well, if you require 6 to 8 months, then I guess we would have to.
Marcia Brady ∞ | 11.26.05 - 8:51 pm | #
6 to 8 months? wow, that's even better than sting!
Anybody wanna, you know...sleep with me?
NTodd | Email | Homepage | 11.26.05 - 8:53 pm | #
alright. but just this once.
and no funny business, i need the rest.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
Yay! Slumber party at NTodd's and Dirk's!
Don't you mean camel spiders?
Oh, right.
Those big fucking scary ones.
Oooops! gotta go, we have a plushyporn photo-op.
Anybody wanna, you know...sleep with me?
NTodd | Email | Homepage | 11.26.05 - 8:53 pm | #
Are you a snorer? A Wheezer? Do you flop about a lot?
Are you a snorer? A Wheezer? Do you flop about a lot?
I'm silent but thrashy.
Asked last night but I'll ask again: my soon to be 14 year old niece asked me to get her some CDs for Xmas - good old stuff she doesn't know about yet. So far I've settled on London Calling and Nothing's Shocking by Jane's Addiction, and someone last night suggested the Pogues. Any other ideas? The kid's a punk, but I have to keep in mind that her mother is my sister so boundaries must be recognized.
I'm silent but thrashy.
Eli
Now if you'd said "silent but trashy", you'd probably get a lot more takers.
Do you flop about a lot?
For the record, I have only accidentally broken the nose and cheekbone of a person sharing my bed once.
Anybody wanna, you know...sleep with me?
Not if you steal all the blankets.
"Full Metal Alchemist"
rrrgh.
Well, it has some interesting points. If we recall correctly it centers around a coup d'etat conspiracy among elites seeking a police state, in a society relying on an "alchemical" mix of magic and technology. You could've done worse.
Official web site is here,
informational site, ANN page, also a nice fansite at Homepage (Haloscan limits in-comment links to 2).
Yay! Slumber party at NTodd's and Dirk's!
Marcia Brady ∞ | 11.26.05 - 8:54 pm | #
yes, and i'm glad to see you didn't say "pajama party". pajamas will not be tolerated, osm or otherwise.
Jennifer - Siouxsie and the Banshees?
Do any of you Liberal Elitists fancy a game of online Scrabble w/me?
A man had to have a room at an inn. There was only one room left but he would have to share with another man who was a noted thrasher. The man said, "Fine." In the morning, the landlord asked him how slept. He replied, "Like a baby. The man never moved or disturbed the bolster." How? the landlord asked, "Well, I just kissed him goodnight and he never went to sleep the rest of the night."
Not if you steal all the blankets.
I never have. Usually I give them up willingly. I'm a gentleman.
Do any of you Liberal Elitists fancy a game of online Scrabble w/me?
Don't be ridiculous.
Manticore is starting in 7 minutes.
Jennifer - Siouxsie and the Banshees?
Ooo, good call. And Iggy Pop.
Do any of you Liberal Elitists fancy a game of online Scrabble w/me?
Don't do it! It's a trap!
"The kid's a punk, but I have to keep in mind that her mother is my sister so boundaries must be recognized."
Jennifer, does that put you into the evil but very cool aunt category with the niece? 
Thanks K & Y
I'm back!!!
Did you guys miss me?
Were you talking about me?
For the record, I have only accidentally broken the nose and cheekbone of a person sharing my bed once.
NTodd | Email | Homepage | 11.26.05 - 8:57 pm | #
i'm impressed.
the most i've ever done is make her faint.
Are you a snorer? A Wheezer? Do you flop about a lot?
I'm one of the quietest, light sleepers I know. I fall asleep reading on one side of the bed, and the book is still in the same place when I wake up the next morning.
Comes from years of sharing a bed with a man whose body temperature averaged 102º with all that back hair.
yes, and i'm glad to see you didn't say "pajama party". pajamas will not be tolerated, osm or otherwise.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
If I can't wear pajamas, then I'll get cold and won't be able to sleep at all.
"The sense is that there is a crisis coming," Mr. Wolfe said. "The question is, can the government get ahead of it?"
Not if you have people running the gov't who hate gov't, no.
One of these days, people will figure that out, will actually LISTEN - or, perhaps, at least read the fine print.
That pisses me off so much - that peopple who will suffer the most have been the ones to embrace these filthy people currently "in charge" of everything.
But, what the hell. This has become trite, and I apologize for bitching about the obvious.
It's just that - obvious as it has supposedly become - NOTHING FUCKING CHANGES.....
Siouxsie? Not sure about that. Iggy Pop though...I'm there.
Comes from years of sharing a bed with a man whose body temperature averaged 102º with all that back hair.
Erm. If true... WHY???
Did you guys miss me?
Were you talking about me?
flory, keeper of the VIP keys | Email | 11.26.05 - 8:59 pm | #
only about how much we missed you.
young girl punk:
Fabulous Disaster (self-titled), Biff Naked, and Tilt (with Cinder Block, particularly the albums Viewers Like You and 'Till It Kills).
Don't be ridiculous.
Don't do it! It's a trap!
Mean.
That's Robert Frost, right?
Eli
Thank you, I think?
.
Were you talking about me?
flory, keeper of the VIP keys
I was thinking of you. Does that count?
Did you guys miss me?
Were you talking about me?
I was attempting to procure some new plushyporn for you.
Unfortunately he moved.
f I can't wear pajamas, then I'll get cold and won't be able to sleep at all.
Marcia Brady ∞ | 11.26.05 - 8:59 pm | #
the waterbed is heated, and we have a nice down comforter.
Don't do it! It's a trap!
Just what Admiral Akbar said.
If I can't wear pajamas, then I'll get cold and won't be able to sleep at all.
I *might* have a solution for that...
"Anybody wanna, you know...sleep with me?
NTodd"
you had your chances in hs and college, but......
If I can't wear pajamas, then I'll get cold and won't be able to sleep at all.
Not necessarily. And not necessarily a bad thing, either.
"That pisses me off so much - that peopple who will suffer the most have been the ones to embrace these filthy people currently "in charge" of everything."
Sarah, they run to their abusers.
the most i've ever done is make her faint.
Don't you mean feint?
Iggy Pop though...I'm there.
Jennifer
Iggy is a god.
I'm back!!!
Did you guys miss me?
Were you talking about me?
Welcome back!!!
(Who are you?)
.
Erm. If true... WHY???
Unless he was an actual grizzly bear, I really don't understand that story.
You seem like such a sensible girl.
DEFINITELY NOT SIOUXIE!
You have to be READY for Siouxie.
Give it to an unready outsider and she'll complain about the screeching in Peekaboo.
People who deny there were witches because they don't like how the religious treated them are akin to the Left denying there were Communists because they don't like that Americans reviled them. Jews too were justifiably, though unnecessarily, persecuted for their beliefs and inability to conform to social norms.
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99% of the actual communists i have met were little old jewish ladies on the lower east side. or maybe they were witches.
you had your chances in hs and college, but......
That's so unfair. It's not my fault I'm genetically prevented from having a clue.
the waterbed is heated, and we have a nice down comforter.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
feeling....sleepy...
Okay, I guess I will have to play w/some LGFer or Powerliner stranger. Don't be surprised if I come back bellowing about guest worker programs, bombing middle east capitals, and flat taxes.
with blue cheese stuffed olives! she's earned something special tonight!
dirk gently, sociopathetic
A good night's sleep?
this is a very nice martini, i think i'll have another.
which puts online scrabble right off the table, i'm afraid.
Oh, about that "Jesus is coming - are you ready to swallow?" :
John 4:10-11 (New International)
Jesus answered her, "If you knew the gift of God and who it is that asks you for a drink, you would have asked him and he would have given you living water."
"Sir" the woman said, "you have nothing to draw with and the well is deep. Where can you get this living water?"
Just saying.......
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Unless he was an actual grizzly bear, I really don't understand that story.
You seem like such a sensible girl.
Let me just reiterate that I am 100% back-hair free. And pretty sparse on body hair altogether.
If that's too much information, kindly disregard.
Jennifer: new york dolls..
Don't do it! It's a trap!
Mean.
res ipsa loquitur
Oh, no!
DEFINITELY NOT SIOUXIE!
You have to be READY for Siouxie.
Give it to an unready outsider and she'll complain about the screeching in Peekaboo.
Hey, I just played that on my podcast today! I was going to go for an older song (e.g., Mirage), but Peekaboo just fit the mood.
A good night's sleep?
flory, keeper of the VIP keys
You can cuddle up with me in the comforter.
Do any of you Liberal Elitists fancy a game of online Scrabble w/me?
Don't do it! It's a trap!
Eli
You've watched the war, now play the game
By Philip Sherwell in Washington
(Filed: 27/11/2005)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/...27/
ixworld.html
The United States-led invasion of Iraq may not have been quite the "cakewalk" predicted by some, but now it has been made into a board game and released on the American market just in time for Christmas.
Battle to Baghdad: The Fight For Freedom, which was dreamt up in his shower by Rick Medina, a construction contractor from Oregon, has aroused predictable controversy - praised by some Iraq veterans for its accuracy; criticised by others for capitalising on war.
In the game of dice and cards, the victor is the first to make it to the Iraqi capital without losing all his or her soldiers. And just like US military commanders and their political masters, players encounter some painful and unexpected hazards on their dangerous journey through the desert.
etc.
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Trophies, games?!
Bah, humbug - is there a Death Star in the neighborhood I could borrow for a minute?
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Attaturk-Why did you link to a picture of Strom's penis?
Res ipsa, wait! I just got here, killing time while waiting for my kid to get off the computer and play real live Scrabble with me in person. How's it done online?
Erm. If true... WHY???
because in many relationships, Eli, inertia builds its own momentum. People get stuck and are either too lazy or too scared to do anything about it.
It certainly wasn't for the loving support he so generously afforded me.
[/arched eyebrow]
Comes from years of sharing a bed with a man whose body temperature averaged 102º with all that back hair.
Not me!
I just want to emphasize, NOT ME!
so is this sci-fi movie gonna bash Arabs?
Let me just reiterate that I am 100% back-hair free. And pretty sparse on body hair altogether.
Eli
But you can do a nice stubble, which is sometimes a requirement.
A good night's sleep?
flory, keeper of the VIP keys
You can cuddle up with me in the comforter.
Marcia Brady ∞ | 11.26.05 - 9:04 pm | #
you are all welcome to join us. nothing like cuddling under the comforter in a big warm waterbed with a bunch of godless liberals.
Battle to Baghdad: The Fight For Freedom, which was dreamt up in his shower by Rick Medina, a construction contractor from Oregon...
Sounds just like the origin of Monopoly.
Dirk
you are right, it is Cantor.
Anyway, he had the same relation to set theory as Euclid had to geometry, and there are many types of modern non-Cantorian set theories, presumsably an infinite number, no one of which can ever be shown to be entirely self consistent.
Still his idea that there are a larger number of irrational numbers than integers appeals to me.
People's intuitions can get led very far astray when contemplating infinite sets.
the most i've ever done is make her faint.
Don't you mean feint?
spinoza |
I'm sorry - this made me snort relatively decent wine out of my nose.
Thank you, spinoza
I just want to emphasize, NOT ME!
No, we have the years ahead to enjoy!
If I can't wear pajamas, then I'll get cold and won't be able to sleep at all.
Marcia Brady ∞
I've become addicted to wearing at least some kind of shirt, PJ, flannel, thermal, when sleeping AND a down comforter.
Hello, my name is agave and I am an over bundler.
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nothing like cuddling under the comforter in a big warm waterbed with a bunch of godless liberals.
Do they put out?
People get stuck and are either too lazy or too scared to do anything about it.
Nair for Men would work if he was too lazy or scared to wax or shave.
Waitasec, you weren't referring to the back hair, were you?
Al Sharpton's old medallion!
they run to their abusers.
EkCenTriK
Ek, yeah, but that does not lessen the culpability of the abusers. "Abusees" (if you will) are so fucking EASY to identify. Shooting fish in a barrel.
k & y - that's kinda what I thought about Siouxsie. Siouxsie, X, Dead Kennedys - you have to get to a certain place before you can "get" them.
I'm kinda thinking about maybe some classic Pretenders; it's pretty mainstream but Chrissy is someone that would be good for a 14 year old girl to get to know.
Res ipsa, wait! I just got here, killing time while waiting for my kid to get off the computer and play real live Scrabble with me in person. How's it done online?
Capital J ... I jsut started a game w/a stranger. It will be over soon. Go upthread and I'll tell you when/where.
Owls sure poop a lot in the owlery...
sheets
Hello, my name is agave and I am an over bundler.
Rumor has it that NTodd's aversion to pants and j bottoms was his teenage quaker years spent bundling.
Owls sure poop a lot in the owlery...
NTodd
Which is why my owlery is way on the other side of the house from my kitchen.
only about how much we missed you.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
Can I come to your slumber party?
R.I.L., can't find a link. Will hang out here for a bit.
Gloria Boyd, a social worker from Notre Dame Roman Catholic Church in New Hyde Park who was helping the woman apply for assistance, leaned into the conversation at that point: "You should know that people come to our food pantry because they're paying for their utilities and their oil and they can't afford to buy food. Write that down. This is a bad situation."
bkny
Holy FSM on a croissant...
Now I'm really depressed.
Do they put out?
NTodd | Email | Homepage | 11.26.05 - 9:07 pm | #
only after you ply them with chardonay
Can I come to your slumber party?
flory, keeper of the VIP keys | Email | 11.26.05 - 9:11 pm | #
you are always welcome. i'll tell the wife to put out another pillow.
Any other ideas? The kid's a punk, but I have to keep in mind that her mother is my sister so boundaries must be recognized.
Jennifer
X's "Under the Big Black Sun."And maybe the Damned's "Machine Gun Etiquette"? Or the Buzzcocks?
If she's completely off her rocker, go for Rudimentary Peni's "Cacophony." If she's a bit gothy, maybe early Cocteau Twins, before they got new agey...
Now I'm really depressed.
Diane
It's my fault, isn't it? I knew I should've done the hope blogging yesterday....
Capital J ...
I play Yahoo Literati, which is exactly like Scrabble. If you go to Yahoo games and sign in, find Literati. I am in the beginner lounge area in a room called "Duh." Table 44.
I play Yahoo Literati, which is exactly like Scrabble. If you go to Yahoo games and sign in, find Literati. I am in the beginner lounge area in a room called "Duh." Table 44.
res ipsa loquitur | 11.26.05 - 9:14 pm | #
my soninlaw plays that all the time - sixstringpunk25. and sometimes my daughter amnestyb - she is probably more of a challenge
Do they put out?
NTodd
Only with the right incentives.
R.I.L., I blush to admit I'm an online games virgin, but I'll see if I can figure it out (maybe w/help of kid).
should I start referring to myself as Jennifer,Popette and High Priestess, Church of Our Lady of NTodd's Pants™?
How 'bout L7's Bricks are Heavy for the niece? Contains the ever-topical "Wargasm".
R.I.L., "Duh" is apparently full. Thanks anyway, hon. I think I'll settle for playing live and in person (even though my kid regularly beats me -- how does someone so young know so many big words?).
Eli--this is so gonna suck.
you would have thought at least western civilization had moved beyond barbarianism, but no barbarianism is clearly safely ensconced in the cult of republicanism.
But once, years ago, I was at Omega in Rhinebeck, NY and walked back to my cabin at night. I will never forget the billions of stars I could see out there so far away from any city. Just awe=inspiring.
Hecate Malificent
Actually, one can only see between 4000 and 7000 stars on a clear cold night in the country... look it up.
Someone should tell that loon that the basis of Western civilization is Greek culture.
Liberals and republicans are usually agreed on their hatred of the pagan. "It's anti-semitism!" is their cry.
This is blogger hypocracy, Atrios of course wants those witchy holocaust deniers burned.
Ummm... there were plenty of pogroms against the resident Jews in my little corner of Bavaria in the 1300's and 1400's. Nuremberg had a particularly nasty history, with at least one case of the main synagogue getting burned down during services, with the congregants pinned inside. Bavarian (and other German) peasants were long suspicious and fearful of Jews, and their rulers (secular and religious) did nothing to discourage this (at times, they positively encouraged it).
I really think it took the Third Reich and taking anti-Semitism to its limit to break Bavarians (and other Germans) of it.
Today, I'd say your average local-yokel Bavarian (Catholic and a regular voter for the CDU's more conservative sister party, naturally) feels the same way about European/American Jews as he feels about a non-observant Lutheran SPD member from one of the larger northern cities - he isn't going to go out of his way to befriend them, but doesn't actively dislike or fear them. He'd be disgusted and fearful of some politician advocating action against either group, though - the neo-Nazi-ish NPD polls even lower in Bavaria than the already low national average.
You're saying there WEREN'T witches? You're honestly saying that?
Me and the missus and all our kids have the soured milk and blighted apple tree that says you LIE.
And liberals claim they care about the common man.
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