I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

yop!


GravatarThere's a shocker.


And today's laugh of the day...Who's going to Rupert Murdoch's Christm...I mean HOLIDAY Party this year?

Once again O'Reilly & Gibson are losing the "War on Christmas" at home.


Gravatarsecond yop?


GravatarSomeone send me a link to a torrent of the zombie movie pleeease.


GravatarOK, Nim, this one's for you:

link to Masters of Horror zombies torrent

mininova.com, where you go generally to find the shows you wanna download

bittorrent.com, where you get the software you need to do it

It takes anywhere from half an hour to two days to download a whole show, depending on how many other people are sharing/co-downloading (seeds/leechers). Shows almost always comes as .avi or a .divx. So, to watch what you download you need to:

1. play it on your computer, with up to date codecs;

B. own a DVD player that plays the more current .avi and .divx codecs (I just got a new one for $60 that’s designed to play all formats and has updateable firmware; if you ask I’ll run downstairs and check the make/model); or

III. convert it to .mpg (which the older DVD players all will play).

Moral note: Please only download stuff that’s already public access, like network TV (Lost) or “free weekend” Showtime. My wife is a SAG/AFTRA member and I am not advocating stealing CDs and movies.


GravatarI refuse to count Peter "Others dying gives my life meaning" Beinart as a member of the left.


GravatarFAIR is a biased, Soros-funded smear organization trying to cover for the liberal media.


GravatarCurse the librul media!!

And, drive-by blog pimp (purdy pictures):

http://zapaction.blogspot.com/20...hotog- blog.html


Oh, and good morning!!


GravatarThank you sir!


GravatarYou are welcome, sir!


GravatarOT: but this is just too . . . .

"The United States Agency for International Development is seeking applications for an Assistance Agreement from qualified sources to design and implement a social and economic stabilization program impacting ten Strategic Cities, identified by the United States Government as critical to the defeat of the Insurgency in Iraq. The number of Strategic Cities may expand or contract over time. USAID plans to provide approximately $1,020,000,000 over two years to meet the objectives of the Program. An additional option year may be considered amounting to $300 million at the discretion of USAID. Funds are not yet available for this program."

OMFG! They are not really this clueless, are they?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/th...om/th...wswire/ #a011626

(Here's my plan: Get the American troops out. Establish regional governments. Allow the country of Iraq to gravitate into its three natural factions. Send check payable to DWD.)


GravatarToo early to think about stuff like this-back to the penguins for a tad.


GravatarIf I was running something like the Washington Journal, I saw democrats as pussies, I saw republicans dominating everything as if they were the Borg, I saw what happens when you don't tow the republican line, I saw what happens when you diss democrats(be rewarded heavily for it), then I'd not want to have any of them as guests either. If my intent is to make money then I go where the money is. And even if I wasn't trying to go where the money is I'd still do it simply because the republicans control all the factors which ensure that my show stays on the air.

It's called power. Republicans have it. Democrats don't.

MYOB'
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GravatarThe United States Agency for International Development is seeking applications for an Assistance Agreement from qualified sources

Let's all submit bids on this RFP! A flood of paperwork from people, all offering to do it for $10 less than whatever KBR bids.


GravatarToo early to think about stuff like this-back to the penguins for a tad.

Anyone got a penguin link? I feel left out.


GravatarI knew for the past year that this was the case!

I would get in the car at 8pm to go to work and turn on Cspan just in time for the "republican hour"

Gotta love our "fair and balanced" media.

The shroud has been lifted off of this corrupt machine we call our government.

from the corrupt bought-and-paid-for "free press" to the gop-controlled corporate media conglomerate.

it turns my stomach to think that whores like coulter and limpbaugh (who should both be hung for treason) can actually say with a straight face that the media is liberal.

And yet they are still in control of EVERYTHING.


GravatarPenguin link:

http://n.ethz.ch/student/mkos/pi...kos/ pinguin.swf

It's fun!!


GravatarThanks Zap!


GravatarI'm a regular viewer of Washington Journal. I've called in, too.

While it's great that someone researched and reported this, it really isn't shocking. All you need to do is tune in on a regular basis to discern the right leaning political bias.

And they let GOP talking points, bloviating callers go on far too long. I would estimate that 65% of the calls they take on the air are from folks to the right of center. Funny thing is, when I call on the "Support the Democrats" line, most often, I can't get through, and I've wondered why they don't balance the ratio of left vs. right callers.


GravatarFAIR is a biased, Soros-funded smear organization trying to cover for the liberal media.

Source?

Calling people on their bull shit isn't "biased".


GravatarMorning


GravatarAtrios,

This is a particular bone of contention for me about C-SPAN.

All too often, the anchors on C-SPAN cite The Washington Times or the Opinion Journal to shore-up a point of view.

The blogs are almost completely ignored.
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GravatarIf it's not been posted here yet, DKos is pretty inaccessible today, due to some Sober. Link below to entry explaining what is going on and how to avoid it.

http://www.mydd.com/story/2005/1...12/2/131051/ 112

Anyone here able to get onto DKos?


GravatarI know they had to use objective criteria like party label but somehow I don't think Joementum should count as a guest from the Democrats' side. It was only because McCain was hugging Bush so tight that you couldn't see Lieberman between them.


GravatarOkay, I just got 322.6 on the penguin game.

I hereby retire.

(Frankly I like hitting the pop fly penguins that dive beak first into the snow around 200)


GravatarDKos? What's that?


GravatarI played with the penguin yesterday. He was fun, I was lame.

Can't download it today, though. I hate this fucking AOL connection.

Central S(insert noun), when you're done whacking the penguin, you can come play with me. I'm alone in this mud puddle today, and I want someone to play in the dirt with me.


Gravatari watch WJ pretty regularly. what gets me is that 'fair' means taking an equal number of calls from both sides.

i forget what the topic was one morning (karl? bugman? some scandal) and a caller on the repub line complained because they had taken 4 calls on the dem line in a row. brian told him he was the first repub to call in so far that topic so he got right through!


GravatarI think the imbalance goes even further than that noticed by FAIR. How many times, do you suppose, was a representative of the labor community on? The environmental community? Women's rights? Jesse Jackson? Chomsky?


GravatarI played with the penguin yesterday. He was fun, I was lame.

Can't download it today, though. I hate this fucking AOL connection.

Central S(insert noun), when you're done whacking the penguin, you can come play with me. I'm alone in this mud puddle today, and I want someone to play in the dirt with me.
Vicki | Email | Homepage | 12.03.05 - 12:17 pm | #


Vicki, I have to admit that I understood not one word of your comment.


GravatarSorry, Zap, I forgot the /snark.

MYOB, I agree with you that pandering to the wingnuts is where the money is, but this is C-SPAN, ferchrissake.


Gravatarjawbone,

Explains why I received 2 service update emails from Microsoft in 2 days.
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Gravatar(Frankly I like hitting the pop fly penguins that dive beak first into the snow around 200)
Attaturk |


i thought it was just me!


GravatarHey dirk,

I saw you mention "Mustang Sally" a couple of threads down. My daughter sings the hell out of that song (although she hates performing it because everyone asks her to do it).


GravatarThe blogs are almost completely ignored.
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Dartanyon


I'm sure that blogs will be ignored for quite a while, unfortunately. Apparently, you're only legit if you've got ink.

Wouldn't it behoove most bloggers to submit op-ed pieces? It least, it would generate more traffic to their sites?


GravatarHow many times, do you suppose, was a representative of the labor community on? The environmental community? Women's rights? Jesse Jackson? Chomsky?
Dr. Pedant


Oh, yeah, right. Like any of those wackos have any support in Congress.


GravatarYou know, this whole "Soros funded" thing is starting to remind me of the International Jewish Conspiracy to rule the world, just under a slightly different name...


GravatarVicki, I have to admit that I understood not one word of your comment.
Horatio |


Oh, I get it. It's the barbaric thing again.

(attribute THAT, smarties!)


GravatarBrian Lamb is rarely even seen on C-SPAN these days. He used to be more of a presence.
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GravatarAttaturk, Have you beat: 323.5 (and 206.1 sticking them headfirst in the snow.)

BTW, Hate to really beat on this thing: but that link above is just fricking amazing. Let me capitalize to explain. (Sorry for shouting)

OUR GOVERNMENT IS SO CLUELESS THAT IT IS COMPLETELY BEREFT OF IDEAS OF WHAT TO DO WITH IRAQ. THEY ARE ADVERTISING FOR SOMEONE TO COME UP WITH A PLAN TO SAVE THEIR SORRY ASSES. *ADVERTISING FOR A PLAN!!!!!! DAMN!


GravatarJesse Jackson Jr. is in Congress.


GravatarI swear I wasn't making fun. It just went right over my head.


Gravatar My daughter sings the hell out of that song (although she hates performing it because everyone asks her to do it).

way cool. i love that song.


GravatarUh, above @ 12:16pm, that "Sober" should have been "Sober virus."


GravatarNo prob, CEA. My snark detector is kinda fuzzy right now...


GravatarI love it when rightwingers whine about how the facts are liberally biased.

Like when people who had never seen Farenheit 9/11 claimed that Moore was a "liar", as if he had just made up videotape of the president and administration flunkies saying the things they said.

I guess it's much easier to remain ignorant than it is to check to see if FAIR's numbers are accurate. Because if they are, you might have to accept that the facts are biased against you.


GravatarVicki, I have to admit that I understood not one word of your comment.
Horatio


Then my cryptic command of the language worked.


Gravatari remember the day i noticed that it had turned.....brian lamb was flirting with lucianne goldberg.

....& brian lamb issued a disclaimer before reading krugman's piece that day "now keep in mind, this guy doesnt LIKE the president!"


GravatarAttaturk, Have you beat: 323.5 (and 206.1 sticking them headfirst in the snow.)


No on 323.5, close but no cigar.

On the headfirst in the snow, I really don't know, I've been around 206.1 I think but I haven't been paying attention.


GravatarZap Rowsdower,

I agree. I don't know how you even break through the cement wall that separates bloggers from MSM cable news.

They (MSM) operate from a monopolistic mentality and their egos are always on the line.
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GravatarOUR GOVERNMENT IS SO CLUELESS THAT IT IS COMPLETELY BEREFT OF IDEAS OF WHAT TO DO WITH IRAQ. THEY ARE ADVERTISING FOR SOMEONE TO COME UP WITH A PLAN TO SAVE THEIR SORRY ASSES. *ADVERTISING FOR A PLAN!!!!!! DAMN!

At least it means they're accepting entries from sources other than PNAC and officials in the Bush I admin.

Maybe one of the networks could do reality show along the lines of "The Apprentice." Contestants could try and figure out ways to end the Iraqi clusterfuck, and Richard Perle could tell 'em "your fired."


GravatarFarenheit 9/11

Yeah. Where exactly was Moore supposed to have lied during that movie?


Gravatarvery funny scary call on WJ the other day (there are lots of them, i'm afraid)

paraphrasing as close as i can recall:

"the trouble with liberals is they always want to FEEL good. but conservatives know that sometimes you just have to get in there and do it no matter how you feel. sometimes you have to fight.

if i was in a bar fight, i'd much rather have ollie north at my side than bill clinton."


and all i could think was how much more likely you'd be to GET in a bar fight if Ollie was around than if Bill were.


GravatarThen my cryptic command of the language worked.

You bet.


Gravatar...brian lamb was flirting with lucianne goldberg.

Hahahahaha. Brian Lamb's gone blind.
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GravatarYeah. Where exactly was Moore supposed to have lied during that movie?
Horatio


Everywhere! And he hates America! And he's fat. And Clinton got a blow job.


GravatarYou know, this whole "Soros funded" thing is starting to remind me of the International Jewish Conspiracy to rule the world, just under a slightly different name...

I just read a review of a new documentary about that very subject. It's called, "Protocols of Zion". Looks good.


Gravatar(**Psst. Horatio. I was flirting. But don't tell anyone.)


GravatarYeah. Where exactly was Moore supposed to have lied during that movie?
Horatio


he implied that bush was not infallible.


Gravatarif i was in a bar fight,

If I may, THIS is the problem with conservatives. Too many people on the right view the fighting in Iraq like a football game or a bar fight. Just pound a bit harder and you'll win.


GravatarThe other thing about C-SPAN is the callers.

When I regularly watched C-SPAN, I could swear the rightwing nuts who called in were the same stock callers day after day.

Can't prove it, but they sure sounded the same.
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GravatarI'm not even going to ask what "playing in the dirt" was supposed to mean.


Gravatarand all i could think was how much more likely you'd be to GET in a bar fight if Ollie was around than if Bill were.
dirk gently,olivehue


Yeah, and whether you win or lose, you all end up spending the night in jail and paying a $500 fine.


Gravatarand all i could think was how much more likely you'd be to GET in a bar fight if Ollie was around than if Bill were.
dirk gently,olivehue


Yeah, exactly. Additionally, the fact that anyone, and I mean anyone, would take Ollie North (and G. Gordon Liddy, for that matter) seriously after his credibility had been shot to hell and back in a court of law is beyond me. I do not get why these guys are making money off of their political opinions. They fucked up.


GravatarYeah. Where exactly was Moore supposed to have lied during that movie?
Horatio

Everywhere! And he hates America! And he's fat. And Clinton got a blow job.
CEA

Three things the fascists in this country don't get:

Hating Bush doesn't mean hating America.

Michael can't lose the weight - the fucktards can't lose their stupidity.

Clinton got a blow job - they're jealous they can't get them.


GravatarIs 316.3 good? First time player. I'll take my answer off the air.


GravatarMy favorite was NBC's lisa myers fact check segment which managed to correct no incorrect facts.


GravatarShort stay for me this Saturday morn. I'm taking 12-sided baby to sit on Santa's knee at Marshall Field's today. See you guys later.


GravatarClinton got a blow job - they're jealous they can't get them.

Terry,

My take too. The rightwinger males were obsessed with Clinton's penis.

Go figure?
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GravatarMoore even had his lawyers prepare a big book, on sale at Costco (!) at the time, documenting every fact in the movie. I have to restrain myself from giving it to my mother and brother for Christmas...


GravatarWhen I regularly watched C-SPAN, I could swear the rightwing nuts who called in were the same stock callers day after day.

Can't prove it, but they sure sounded the same.


Oh, I'm sure of it. I watch it regularly, and I can tell you that the same people call ~ it's like they are on rotation. I'm good with voices, and you can just tell that kind of thing.


GravatarHey, I just got a 319.6 whacking the penguin.

Do I get a prize?


GravatarI'm not even going to ask what "playing in the dirt" was supposed to mean.
Horatio |


it's the theme song for a big nursery (plants) chain down here, if that helps.


GravatarI was never able to get in on the Democrats line. Never. I finally gave up.
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GravatarSince people seldom do real statistics on these kind of numbers, I thought I'd see if these numbers are statistically significantly different from expected numbers.

For the elected officials, if the expectation is 50% repub 50% dem, the chi-square is 3.72 (1 degree of freedom) giving a P value of 0.053, which in the social or natural sciencies would be considered significant or marginally significant. (0.05 is the standard threshold of significance. ) If the expectation is 53% repub 47% dem then the P value increases to 0.18, which means the observed numbers are not significantly different from expected.

For the journalists, with the expectation of 50%/50%, the chi square value is 3.31 (1 degree of freedom) and the P value is 0.068, which is marginally significant.

I would conclude that the numbers are suggestive of a bias. Greater sample numbers with the same percentages would certainly yield significant differences from the expected percentages.


GravatarFAIR is a biased, Soros-funded smear organization trying to cover for the liberal media.





WHAT "liberal media"?


GravatarOne of the books I'm reading right now is The Coming of the Third Reich by Richard Evans. History repeats itself, and yet we don't learn. Unless Rove remembers and has learned too much. Also reading The Warden by Anthony Trollope and starting my annual Christmas/Saturnalia read of Vanity Fair by William Thackeray. Not reading poetry at the moment. Too busy.


GravatarThe rightwinger males were obsessed with Clinton's penis.

Well, it's not just any penis, it's the purpled headed warrior variety with purple hearts all over it from the many wounds of battle it has fought.


GravatarThey (MSM) operate from a monopolistic mentality and their egos are always on the line.

And that's precisely the problem, IMHO.

To be taken seriously, you've got to belong to a long established, monied organization. The internet and blogs have taken that mentality and turned it on its ear. In allowing a huge variety of opinion, the MSM can no longer control the public's view. And it's scaring the shit out of them.

The Strib was reformated for that very reason. How ever disgusting the reformat is, they've gone out of their way to link to web sites (and even blogs, on Saturday), to show what other folks think about a particular subject. For example, they reprinted that piece of shit that assrocket wrote about how Bush was the greatest speechafier since Lincoln; and called him on it!!

It'll take a while, but they're wising up.


GravatarVia Gilliard...

GAF Materials Corp. is handing out gift cards from Target as a reward to select employees this holiday season. That's because Wal-Mart, the discount store that held the business for years, last week called sheriff's deputies to apprehend a GAF manager on a bogus bad check rap while he was trying to buy this year's gift card supply.

"I keep going over and over the incident in my mind," said Reginald Pitts, the 34-year-old human resources manager for the roof material manufacturer's Tampa distribution center. "I cannot come up with any possible reason why I was treated like this except that I am black"...

GAF has been spending about $50,000 a year on gift cards at the Wal-Mart Supercenter at 11110 Causeway Blvd. in Brandon. For years GAF sent a white, female administrator to buy them without incident. This time, when she was on vacation the day before Thanksgiving, Pitts did the job himself. He phoned in the order for 520 cards, got the accounting department to issue Wal-Mart a $13,600 check and then encountered a royal hassle trying to exchange it for gift cards at the store.

"For a while there I thought I was going to prison," he said. "It was a totally humiliating experience."

For about two hours, store managers stalled on accepting the check for the already-printed gift cards, while Pitts stood waiting by the customer service desk. He had handed over his GAF business card, his driver's license and the toll-free numbers to GAF's bank. His accounting supervisor assured them over the phone that GAF, the nation's biggest roofing systems maker with revenues of $1.6-billion in 2004, was good for the check...

Dressed in khaki pants and a blue button-down-collar dress shirt, Pitts finally got upset over the lengthy wait. He asked for the check back so he could go to another store. But store managers, who had kept huddled in a nearby office during most of his two-hour ordeal, refused to return it. The only explanation he got was that the store was having trouble "verifying" the check or who Pitts was.

Later, two Hillsborough County sheriff's deputies appeared. One grabbed Pitts by the arm. He objected to the rough handling and asked if he was being arrested.

"We need to talk with you about this forged check that you brought in here," Pitts recalled deputy Bryan Wells saying. Later Wells explained the reason for the firm arm grab: "Well, Wal-Mart called us and reported to us that you committed a felony, and that's the way we approach felons," Pitts recalled.

Within 19 minutes deputies reviewed the evidence, determined there was no grounds for a criminal charge and learned Wal-Mart would not press the issue further. Wells handed the check to Pitts.

"Our deputies didn't even see enough (of a case) to write a report," said Lt. Carmen Rivas, the shift commander. "We responded only because Wal-Mart called in a bad check report"...


GravatarDo I get a prize?

Only if you can do that consistently.

Then share the secret.


GravatarClinton got a blow job - they're jealous they can't get them.

Terry,

My take too. The rightwinger males were obsessed with Clinton's penis.

Go figure?
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Dartanyon


Because when you ask THEM "How cold IS it?", they point to their wives?


GravatarI was never able to get in on the Democrats line. Never. I finally gave up.


I've gotten through twice. I've called 200 times.


GravatarVicki,

You shameless wench.





Re Penguin whacking: I won't brag about my 326.7... Whoops, I just did!


Gravatar"I keep going over and over the incident in my mind," said Reginald Pitts, the 34-year-old human resources manager for the roof material manufacturer's Tampa distribution center. "I cannot come up with any possible reason why I was treated like this except that I am black"...

We're ROLLING BACK civil rights...


GravatarWHAT "liberal media"?
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat


why, MSNB....*snort*...*choke*....
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!


sorry, i tried to keep a straight face.


GravatarYou know, this whole "Soros funded" thing is starting to remind me of the International Jewish Conspiracy to rule the world, just under a slightly different name...
Dr. Pedant


Gilliard has a great take on this.


GravatarThe rightwinger males were obsessed with Clinton's penis

One always wants what one does not have.


GravatarThis is my favorite part of that "Walmart Racism in Action Story":

Wal-Mart has launched its own internal investigation of the incident, which store officials concede upfront "was handled very poorly."

"We've apologized to Mr. Pitts and are trying to find out exactly what happened so it does not happen again," said Sharon Weber, spokeswoman for the chain, based in Bentonville, Ark.


Really?

Wal-Mart store manager Mark Cornett, who could not be reached for comment Thursday, told Pitts that he only "did what he had to do" before saying "have a great day, sir," according to Pitts.

Pitts was so shaken that he called his boss, Dennis Branch, a regional vice president for GAF in Savannah, Ga. Branch called Cornett and confirmed Pitts' version of the story.

"I was appalled," Branch said. "He wouldn't answer questions like, "Do you call the sheriff every time you cannot verify a check?' He got very defiant. He would not apologize and eventually hung up on me..."


Walmart: We're keeping the niggers down.™


GravatarThe journalist numbers above were for the opinion journalists only.

Sorry to be a geek. We just got done raking our leaves and I'm about to head to the office for the afternoon (to analyze data).


Gravatar
Well, it's not just any penis, it's the purpled headed warrior variety with purple hearts all over it from the many wounds of battle it has fought.



Battles with the ghosts of dicks past I presume?

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GravatarAnyone wanna take any bets what Kenneth Tomlinson would say about this?


Gravatarthat piece of shit that assrocket wrote about how Bush was the greatest speechafier since Lincoln



Ex-SQUEEZE me?

What drug is assrocket doing?


GravatarThat Wal-Mart story is pretty much that place in a nutshell.

...good thing Target's got me bamboozled...

Re Penguin whacking: I won't brag about my 326.7... Whoops, I just did!
Central Scrutinizer


You're corking your Polar Bear!!!


Gravatar"Our deputies didn't even see enough (of a case) to write a report," said Lt. Carmen Rivas, the shift commander. "We responded only because Wal-Mart called in a bad check report"...
dave™


By the way, anyone who denies that the South has made great strides forward in race relations should take heart in this story.

50 years ago, they wouldn't even have called the cops--they would have just strung this guy up behind the store. Wal-Mart's policies may still be based on 1955 Arkansas (hell, 1995 Arkansas, for that matter) but at least there are some honest cops out there now.


Gravatar"Our deputies didn't even see enough (of a case) to write a report," said Lt. Carmen Rivas, the shift commander. "We responded only because Wal-Mart called in a bad check report"...
dave™


By the way, anyone who denies that the South has made great strides forward in race relations should take heart in this story.

50 years ago, they wouldn't even have called the cops--they would have just strung this guy up behind the store. Wal-Mart's policies may still be based on 1955 Arkansas (hell, 1995 Arkansas, for that matter) but at least there are some honest cops out there now.


Gravatarthat piece of shit that assrocket wrote about how Bush was the greatest speechafier since Lincoln


If you were a business man, would you pay AssRocket $400 an hour?


GravatarGAF Materials Corp. is handing out gift cards from Target as a reward to select employees this holiday season.

holiday season? HOLIDAY SEASON? what is this, another soros owned commie pinko left wing company trying to destroy xmas?


GravatarIf you were a business man, would you pay AssRocket $400 an hour?
Attaturk


Or business woman obviously.


GravatarCentral S (insert flattering noun):

I just got me a 269! Skipping the penguin like a stone across the ice.


GravatarThe wingnut callers on WJ are a bit like the tip of the wingnut iceberg that is talk radio.


GravatarAnd, as usual, Gilliard nails it:

They just didn't think a black man should have that much money in a check, period.


GravatarBattles with the ghosts of dicks past I presume?

Actually it is all the spelunking done by his one eyed monster, bravery of the highest order.


GravatarYou know, this whole "Soros funded" thing is starting to remind me of the International Jewish Conspiracy to rule the world, just under a slightly different name...
Dr. Pedant


They get ahold of something - like their preznit does - and beat it into the ground.

The fact that it's bullshit means nothing to them.


GravatarYou're corking your Polar Bear!!!
Attaturk


Ha ha!


GravatarFucking rightwing assholes have long controled the public airwaves. Has a single lefty radio program made it onto military radio?


Gravatar
Walmart: We're keeping the niggers down.™


Yeah, I always enjoy being viewed as a "potential" shoplifter.

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GravatarWell, it's not just any penis, it's the purpled headed warrior variety with purple hearts all over it from the many wounds of battle it has fought.

those wounds were self inflicted!


GravatarSo - can anyone beat 70 for the booby prize? Woot?
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Gravatarthat piece of shit that assrocket wrote about how Bush was the greatest speechafier since Lincoln

maybe he meant that last speech at the ford theater ...

(too soon?)


GravatarBattles with the ghosts of dicks past I presume?

Oh, I get it now (waking up).



GravatarHas a single lefty radio program made it onto military radio?


I believe Ed Schultz just got on. 1 hour a day. There was huge controversy over it.

I'd prefer Thom Hartmann ~ he'd educated the troops.


GravatarThe other day, a very reasonable sounding person called in and advocated nuking the entire M.E., except Israel. Does he really believe Israel would survive the fallout? These people can be very scarey.

Shit I can't play Penquin on Mozilla cause I don't have the plug in and stupid explorer is not responding.


GravatarOh, Terry.

You didn't see that?

And I quote:

"It is a little-known fact, I'm afraid, that, in a series of speeches extending over a period of years, President Bush has articulated his policy vision more consistently and more eloquently than any President since Lincoln."

Pure comedy gold!!


Gravatarsmashing peguins for the war against christmas (TM)


GravatarI always enjoy being viewed as a "potential" shoplifter.

That reminds me of when I worked in a large metropolitan record store near an upper-class suburb of the Bay Area way back when. The main security guy was black, and he'd spend all day popping wealthy old white women who just happened to "forget" they'd slipped a couple of cassette tapes into their purse...


GravatarATTENTION AG GONZALES AND ANY SPOOKS WATCHING:

i was not intimating that i believed that president bush should attend the ford theater. i was only commenting that mr lincoln was probably less than eloquent on that occasion.

please do not put flourescent light bulbs up my butt.

thank you.


GravatarLet's all submit bids on this RFP! A flood of paperwork from people, all offering to do it for $10 less than whatever KBR bids.

We'll be RICH, I tell ya! RICH! WTF shouldn't we apply? We're more competent than the fundie college kids.


GravatarFucking rightwing assholes have long controled the public airwaves. Has a single lefty radio program made it onto military radio?
bigvic |


It's hard to believe that any soldier or Marine would waste his or her time listening to Limpballs.


Gravatar
Oh, I get it now (waking up).




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GravatarI love the way the abominable snow beast in the whack-a-penguin thing hits his forward and does a "doh" thing when he fails to hit the bird.

That is so cute.

Of course, I miss hitting it more often than not, so I've a good long time to observe...


GravatarThe main security guy was black, and he'd spend all day popping wealthy old white women

I'm surprised they even had to pay him. Talk about job satisfaction!


GravatarWonder what Reinhold and Yeti 1978 means on the rock?


GravatarMoonbotica,

Thank you for my latest addiction (penguin bashing). I hope to repay you, in kind.


GravatarFarenheit 9/11

Yeah. Where exactly was Moore supposed to have lied during that movie? Horatio- 12:23 pm


Moore scandalously suggested that under Saddam's rule, some Iraqis were able to engage in pleasant, mundane activities such as congregating outdoors, playing, marrying, etc. Iraqi birds, and kites flown by laughing and excited children, flew through a blue Iraqi sky.

He was supposed to have shown Iraq as a variation of Nazi occupation, e.g. stormtroopers evacuating Jewish ghettoes a la "Schindler's List". Visuals of terrified innocent citizens being dragged off to rape rooms would have been fine-- even if they'd been simulated for the occasion.

Moore's pro-Saddam propaganda implied, although it did not express, that Iraq was like every other country, insofar as the status quo was a mix of oppression and freedom, peace and conflict, good and evil co-existing.

It could be inferred from such vile distortion that a massive dose of Amerikan mega-death and mega-violence might not be as purely virtuous or beneficial to that nation and its people as our altruistic, freedom-loving leaders declared.

(Perhaps I ought to have written "Coalition of the Wilting" mega-death, etc.)

In the Amerikan-Anglo hegemony, truth means accentuating the positive and eliminating the negative in all things hegemonic, and applying precisely the opposite formula to all things outside the hegemonic bubble.

From this perspective, Moore's honest, factually correct, and real representations translated into outrageous and despicable deceits.

I hope this settles the question.


GravatarAll right, what is this penguin game?


GravatarHitting his reverse is even cuter.
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GravatarI think that Ann Coulter's shrieking and moaning (no not that kind) about the bloggers is an interesting thing. She and O'Rielly were trying to one uo one another about the Leftist Bloggers who are out to assault them. This is rich coming from a woman who said that the only way to talk to left wingers is with a baseball bat. Blogs must be scaring the right wing or else we wouldn't be hearing this sort of thing. Oh yes - they can't control bloggers. Very scary indeed.

There's something about and Aqua Velva man, Bill.


GravatarSo - can anyone beat 70 for the booby prize? Woot?

How about the fact that I could not figure out how to make the batter swing for 10 minutes last night?


GravatarWell, I see now that score was a fluke. 302.1 is the best I've done since.

And yeah, sticking the penguin in the snow is much more satisfying. (That was for you Vicki)


Gravatar
Dave™

Why am I not suprised?

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GravatarZap Rowsdower no problem


GravatarSomething I saw recently: Howard Dean got the plug pulled on his candidacy 1 week before Iowa by offending AIPAC to suggest balanced treatment of Palestine/Israel.

Sends chills. Are we colonies of Israeli rightists?
Here's clip from peace & justice group:
______________

I, too, deplore the influence of AIPAC on elected U.S.
officials. As to what can be done about it, I don't think there's much
at the grassroots level besides increasing our individual comprehension
and understanding. Two of AIPAC's top staff members are under federal
indictment for espionage. Their State Department contact has already
pled guilty in the case. Recent court filings suggest that the Rosen
and Weissman (the AIPAC staffers), Scooter Libby and Judith Miller, etc.
were tangled up together in all of it.

How much more exposed can these folks be? What is going on is in plain
sight, but the U.S. Jewish community can't respond to it. It's like a
wife who can't perceive or act on her husband's infidelity even if it's
barely concealed.

I doubt Clinton or Dean will stand up to this. They will lose without
the Jewish constituency, which has gradually been going Republican.
Kerry took his policy positions straight from AIPAC. It's political
suicide to go against them.

What I am trying to do about it has less and less to do with politics.
If you have a few minutes scan my website, where I describe where these
interests are taking me. It's too esoteric for many, but the more I
delve into this, the more I appreciate how trans-generational influences
need to be taken into account.

See: http://www.hiddensolution.com/peace.htm and
http://www.hiddensolution.com/peace4.htm.


Gravatar207.4 on a pop fly penguin!


GravatarCentral S (insert sexy noun here) ~

I'd rather have the penguin go the distance, if you catch my snow drift.


Gravatar The wingnut callers on WJ are a bit like the tip of the wingnut iceberg that is talk radio.

The screeners have got to be wingnuts. Nearly every caller to the Dem line always says shit like, "I have been a loylal Dem my whole life, but I support Preznit Bu$h 1,000%"

Hahahahahahaha. More propaganda nobody buys.


GravatarCNN, reports:
Pakistan: Senior al Qaeda leader killed. #3!


GravatarCentral S (insert sexy noun here) ~

I'd rather have the penguin go the distance, if you catch my snow drift.
Vicki


My penguin's goin' the distance,
He's lookin' for speed


GravatarOooh. I just grounded the penguin. Got a 58. Oy.

Poor thing's wings are severely damaged.


GravatarBlogs must be scaring the right wing or else we wouldn't be hearing this sort of thing.

Because bloggers keep catching them on all their bs. I generally don't watch any talking heads but for someone in this day and age to think they can get away with the crap they spew (like Pat Robertson/Venezuelan death threat/denial routine) is so amazing.


GravatarShortest penguin shot - 72.9


GravatarI don't remember a big deal being made out of this last week.

GAO Report Confirms 2004 Election Was Stolen

http://tinyurl.com/a2xfq


GravatarThe screeners have got to be wingnuts. Nearly every caller to the Dem line always says shit like, "I have been a loylal Dem my whole life, but I support Preznit Bu$h 1,000%"


That's the truth of it, too! Cracks me up.


GravatarI'd rather have the penguin go the distance, if you catch my snow drift.
Vicki


You're a flake.


Gravatar, "I have been a loylal Dem my whole life, but I support Preznit Bu$h 1,000%"

Cos I was in a bar fight last night watching a football game.


GravatarLimpballs's latest scare scenario is that when Chimpy begins withdrawing troops from Iraq, the Dems will claim they forced him into it.


GravatarI'll be honest. I've never seen Farenheit 9/11. I've kinda been miffed at Moore since he told me that he crossed a picket line.

He was in town to premiere "The Big One" way back in the day. He did a Q & A before-hand, and I asked him about a time that he was doing a book signing at a Borders in Philly. Borders had just fired a worker there for pushing a union, and the union picketed his appearance their. He thought that he'd be "cool", and allow the picketeers to come inside while he peddled his book.

He was adament about schilling his book, and wouldn't honor a picket. He told me that it was a long story, and would "Like to talk about it sometime".

Haven't heard back from him.


GravatarIraq Sunnis threaten Cairo deal

An influential group of Sunni Muslims in Iraq has threatened to pull out of a tentative agreement reached in reconciliation talks in Cairo, saying continued violence against Sunnis was unacceptable.

Abd al-Salam al-Kubaisi, a spokesman for the Association of Muslim Scholars (AMS), the highest Sunni authority in Iraq, told a news conference on Saturday: "The association finds itself forced to reconsider the decisions reached at the Cairo conference.

"What is happening on the ground differs completely from what was promised."

Last month, leaders from across Iraq reached a tentative agreement at talks in Cairo, Egypt, that violence should stop, some detainees should be freed and US forces should gradually withdraw.


Gravatar"I have been a loylal Dem my whole life, but I support Preznit Bu$h 1,000%"

I swear, some of the callers to Cspan must have someone else dialing the phone for them.


GravatarI'd prefer Thom Hartmann ~ he'd educated the troops.

I think Stephanie Miller and The Young Turks would go over better.
Steph and crew are much more entertaining and Cenk, Ben and Jill kick ass and take names.


Gravatar"Blogs must be scaring the right wing or else we wouldn't be hearing this sort of thing."

We should be scaring the right wing with bricks through their windows and burning their cars like they do in Paris. A good beat-down once in a while would help as well. Someone needs to beat the shit out of Limbaugh, Hannity and Oriellý. I mean, BEAT the SHIT out of em.


Gravatarhttp://www.democrats.org/page/s/lamar

Send a Message to Lamar Advertising

Today, at around 10 AM, the DNC got two phone calls -- the first came from Lamar Advertising's Cincinnati office, who informed us they would not be providing a quote for buying billboard space based on the content of the "Shame on Jean Schmidt" billboard. A second call came minutes later from Lamar's Huntington, West Virginia office. Their manager informed us that he too was rejecting the ad. This rejection came more than 24 hours after the DNC had signed a contract with Lamar and 48 hours after they had accepted the artwork for the billboards you helped pay to put up.

By rejecting these billboards, Lamar has limited your right to be heard. They've stood up to silence millions of Democrats who believe that attacking veterans for political gain is disgusting, and they think they can get away with it because they own nearly every billboard in the district.

Tell Lamar to let us know immediately whether they intend to honor its contract -- and if not, why. Fairness and the public interest demand no less.

etc.
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Fucking assholes.
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GravatarOk, somebody - put up the link to the penguin game.


I was gone most of yesterday, so I missed it.


GravatarIt's hard to believe that any soldier or Marine would waste his or her time listening to Limpballs.

You are correct, sir. But the fact that they get no real choice of what they can listen to is consistant with our Propaganda Preznit.


Gravatarfootloose - Exactly. There are people who say that blogging is limited to a very small segment of the population, and therefor has limited impact, but I disagree. We don't yet know how the information on the blogs gets disseminated. I've seen a trend of the MSM stealing (yes, stealing) ideas from blogs. Hi, Maureen! Bloggers are more ethical than journalist because they attribute stuff and use facts.

bush: done, ruined and fucked.


Gravatarthe tip of the wingnut iceberg that is talk radio.

This morning's news chat between Scott Simon and Dan Shore, Shore asked why the Republicans had all the money scandals and the Democrats had all the sex scandals. Scott said, I could name a lot of Democratic money scandals, then he didn't. Will he read the letters asking him why he didn't?

Scott Simon is as big a whore as any of them.

Please dump NPR, please tell your local public radio station that you're not buying it anymore.


GravatarGAO Report Confirms 2004 Election Was Stolen





NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Shit!


GravatarI have been a loylal Dem my whole life, but I support Preznit Bu$h 1,000%"

Pure Freepage.

Yeah, any idiot can call C-SPAN's Republican line and say, "I've been a loyal Republican all my life but President Bush is way off base and I'm never voting Republican again."

I mean really, how will they know if you're lying or not?


Gravatarhere its the Penguin game Tena


Gravatar 207.4 on a pop fly penguin!

Ha! 207.5!!

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GravatarTena,

http://n.ethz.ch/student/mkos/pi...kos/ pinguin.swf


GravatarYou're a flake.
Central Scrutinizer


Actually, I'm more of a ball.


GravatarOooh. I just grounded the penguin. Got a 58. Oy.


Damn! That sounds unbeatable, boobywise. You get the Bob Beamon award.
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GravatarNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Shit!
Terry C,


Is that sarcasm or frustration?

When Boxer and everyone else tried to challenge the electoral vote, Dems were laughed off as "tin foil hatters" and the allegations were dismissed as "wacky internet conspiracy theories."

Now we're proved right, this should be front page headlines. It's the fucking GAO not bloggers, not Democrats, not the NAACP. This should count for something.

And it should be the final nail in BushCo's coffin.


Gravatar152.9


GravatarThe screeners have got to be wingnuts. Nearly every caller to the Dem line always says shit like, "I have been a loylal Dem my whole life, but I support Preznit Bu$h 1,000%"

I love the "I used to be a Democrat" trolls that occasionally post on here.

a) Like anyone gives a shit what you "used to be," it's what you are now that matters
b) Like anyone believes that bullshit claim anyway


GravatarYes!! 316


Gravatar320.5 ladies and gentlemen


GravatarCOnfession: I used to enjoy Brian Lamb. But there was a change in the way he portrayed partisanship that started to annoy me. Probably about 8 years ago it started...


GravatarI'd rather have the penguin go the distance, if you catch my snow drift.
Vicki


as opposed to having it deeply buried head firstin the ... uh ... snow?


GravatarI swear, some of the callers to Cspan must have someone else dialing the phone for them.

Hahahahahahaha. Some of the dumbest folks on the planet call into that show. More proof they are wingnuts. I can't even watch that program any more it's so unbalanced.


GravatarI got 0,0,0,0 on the penguin game because I couldn't figure it out. The first time I figured out what to do I got 201. So I quit playing.


GravatarPenguin closest to the pin contest:

stick it closest to 200, and I'll happily buy you a drink. Since this is all virtual, I'll also enjoy it for you.


GravatarActually, I'm more of a ball.
Vicki


Well drizzle my nizzle, fo shnizle.


Gravatarthe Dems will claim they forced him into it.

Pride goeth before the fall?


GravatarBrian Lamb is President and CEO of C-SPAN.

http://www.c-span.org/about/comp...mpany/ index.asp

Brian Lamb was also a staffer in the Nixon White House.

Brian Lamb has C-SPAN running exactly as he want it to run.... with the illusion of being free of bias, but in actuality an entity that drags the policy wonks and the inside the beltway crowd way to the right, and the whole discussion of politics in this country way right with them. Brian Lamb may have done more real damage to the political system in this country than Fox News. The people who actually make policy don't watch Fox. They watch C-SPAN.


GravatarI got 253.8!


GravatarQuentinCompson | Homepage | 12.03.05 - 12:56 pm | #

I got the Lamar stuff in my mailbox too, but didn't click on it. Having been in publishing, I know that once incendiary stuff comes in for an ad, it goes straight to the lawyers who can it, for any side of an issue.

Maybe repugs put up billboards to drive home their warped agenda, but I'm not for my side doing it.


GravatarOh, and good morning, moonbats. Hope you haven't been threatening to physically harm that nice Ann Coulter this morning.


Gravatar Penguin closest to the pin contest:

stick it closest to 200, and I'll happily buy you a drink. Since this is all virtual, I'll also enjoy it for you.

Damn!

I got 199.5 once.

OK back to penguin beating.

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Gravatar Oh, and good morning, moonbats. Hope you haven't been threatening to physically harm that nice Ann Coulter this morning.

Only by our special Proxy Zombies.


GravatarNew record for me, 265.9!


Gravatar265.4


GravatarWell drizzle my nizzle, fo shnizle.
Central Scrutinizer


And on that note, I need an iceberg to cool me down.

Going to take a shower, moonbats. I have a friend stopping by in an hour and I'm still sitting here, drinking coffee, whacking penguins and shamelessly flirting with a guy who can whack it 326 whatever the distance is. Who knew Eschaton could be so much fun?


GravatarI got the Lamar stuff in my mailbox too, but didn't click on it.

What sucks is that someoone -- Clear Channel I think but maybe Lamar -- had no problem putting up huge billboards with Bush's face and the words "OUR LEADER" on them not long ago.

I mean geez.


GravatarI swear, some of the callers to Cspan must have someone else dialing the phone for them.



They all sound like they're brain-damaged.


Gravatar296.6 - i think i figured out something...


GravatarThe Anarchists Cookbook has all sorts of great ideas about how to, um, "modify" a billboard to make it say what you want to.

If I weren't scared of heights I'd be tempted ...


Gravatar316.8 - on a roll, got a "system"


GravatarClear Channel I think but maybe Lamar -- had no problem putting up huge billboards with Bush's face and the words "OUR LEADER" on them not long ago.

I mean geez.
Litz


Ain't my leader.

Ain't never been my leader.


Gravatar68, i think i deserve the booby prize


GravatarOh, I can't take the callers to C-SPAN.

I give it the Fox News treatment- anything positive to be gained is outweighed by the near-certainty of unnecessary aggravation.


GravatarOn May 16, 1997, Washington Post ombudsman Geneva Overholser debated right-wing media critic Brent Bozell. Noting the awkward pairing, she grilled C-SPAN host and founder Brian Lamb: “Do you typically have a conservative and then somebody who is just a journalist? Is that the typical match-up?”

Interesting study, and I recognize the somewhat rightward tilt of course. I blame our leftist overlords who provide a less than competitive infrastructure of think tanks, vanity press, bribed reporters, etc.
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Gravatar277 and he landed belly-up.

So much more humane than head-first in the snow.


GravatarDon't waste time and effort composing ponderous comments about Michael Moore, the war between the blogosphere and corporate media, or stolen presidential elections.

Thanks to our Moonbootica, all anyone wants to do is post penguin-batting scores.

316.7! Personal best!


GravatarOh, and good morning, moonbats. Hope you haven't been threatening to physically harm that nice Ann Coulter this morning.
Buzz Bomb


Use her to mop my floor.


GravatarWhat sucks is that someoone -- Clear Channel I think but maybe Lamar -- had no problem putting up huge billboards with Bush's face and the words "OUR LEADER" on them not long ago.

it sucks, but not incendiary.


GravatarMoonbootica - Thanks!!!!

316.9

First hit.




Gravatar301.7


Gravatar

" the Sweetest Thing" has got to be just about the worst movie in history.

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GravatarI keep hitting grounders that don't go very far now.


GravatarAh, the Lamar/Clear Channel business reminds me of the Sinclair-owned station I watched before the '04 election.

The one that played the Swift Boat documentary as a "news service" to its vieweres. Loverly.


Gravatar283.5


Gravatar321.1!


Gravatar321.1!


Gravatar319! YES!!!

hint: after the launch, hold the button down and release to swing.


GravatarAnn Coulter thinks the only way she can talk to me is with a baseball bat. So I'm dressing her up as a penguin before I hit her and send her skinny ass to Antarctica.


Gravatar321.1!
Central Scrutinizer


You ROCK!


GravatarSince penguin-bashing (and Bush-bashing) are only part of my daily routine, I gotta go. And I stuck it at exactly 200! Drinks for that guy!

Football's on anyway, as our Congressional leaders would remind us.


Gravatar320.9.


GravatarOh, yeah, right. Like any of those wackos have any support in Congress.
CEA


The trolls are becoming more and more desperate.


GravatarCS, 323.5


Gravatar312!!!

312!!

312!!!


My work is done!


Gravatarstopped watching C-SCAM during the impeachment when St. Brian Lamb loved having on snitchens and little roy together, like that was a fair and balanced left/right access. had 'em on like that as a duo more than once. after the third time, that's all she wrote for me. just another wingnut outlet.


GravatarDWD - Listener in the Snow

Ooh, you got snow there?

It's a shorts and flip flops day here, alas.


GravatarOh, it's a pissing in the (yellow) snow match between DWD and Central Scrutinizer!

Bring it on!


You guys ROCK!


GravatarDoes anyone else need the info on how to download Masters of Horros (zombies) via bit torrent?


GravatarNewsview: Bush, Security Team Out of Synch

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush and his national security team may be singing from the same songbook on their ``National Strategy for Victory in Iraq'' campaign blitz. They're just not necessarily always on the same page.

Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld are making a concentrated push to clarify the administration's goals and game plan. The hope is to rebuild public support and demonstrate resolve ahead of elections Dec. 15 in Iraq for a permanent government.


Gravatartime to lunch w/ m'lady.

later. all.

smack that pengi!


GravatarI give it the Fox News treatment- anything positive to be gained is outweighed by the near-certainty of unnecessary aggravation.
Jay C.


Yep. It's come down to that. There isn't a single liberal leaning news program on TV or radio. The wingers stomped their little feet and held their breath for 2 decades and finally got what they wanted.


GravatarOur Leader!

Goose step, everyone! C'mon, it's fun!


GravatarTena, we have several inches here.


GravatarThousands Re-Enact Napoleonic Triumph

SLAVKOV U BRNA, Czech Republic (AP) - Thousands of men in 19th century uniforms, on horseback and on foot, battled on a snow-covered field in the Czech Republic on Saturday, re-enacting the Emperor Napoleon's triumph over Russia and Austria 200 years ago.

Sabers clashed and the pounding of cannon and gunfire shook the battlefield, but this time there were no 30,000 dead or injured as the French cemented their dominance over continental Europe.

Instead, tens of thousands of spectators from a largely unified continent watched excitedly from the sidelines of the recreated battle of Austerlitz, thrilling to the pageant.


Gravatar321.1


GravatarUpdate from Markos re: DKos being down. It is, apparently, an actual physical problem for his site. Moving servers, etc. Read message.

http://www.boomantribune.com/?op...12/3/124033/ 526

However, based on earlier link (12:16 pm this thread) about the Sober virus, that it an actual threat and affecting ability of bandwidth providers to move traffic. Supposedly affecting all large providers, AT&T mentioned specifically.


GravatarAnn Coulter thinks the only way she can talk to me is with a baseball bat



When I read that, I said "Yeah, right. She can take her best shot. I'll shove that bat so far up her skinny ass, she'll be spitting splinters until 2008!"


Gravatar
Central,

I was just thinking about putting proof online.

too funny!

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GravatarI don't know what else to say except: "Holy Crap."

The United States Agency for International Development is seeking applications for an Assistance Agreement from qualified sources to design and implement a social and economic stabilization program impacting ten Strategic Cities, identified by the United States Government as critical to the defeat of the Insurgency in Iraq. The number of Strategic Cities may expand or contract over time. USAID plans to provide approximately $1,020,000,000 over two years to meet the objectives of the Program. An additional option year may be considered amounting to $300 million at the discretion of USAID. Funds are not yet available for this program.

And yes, it's real.

I'm gobsmacked.


GravatarOur Leader!

Goose step, everyone! C'mon, it's fun!
Litz


I'd like to give the little mother fucker the Mussolini treatment.


GravatarBush, Vice President Dick Cheney, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld are making a concentrated push to clarify the administration's goals and game plan. The hope is to rebuild public support and demonstrate resolve ahead of elections Dec. 15 in Iraq for a permanent government.

Actually, their hope is to generate enough of a boost in the poll numbers that Mama Bush won't come to Washington right after the State of the Union and get them all fired for leading her boy astray. Go, Babs!


GravatarTena, we have several inches here.
Vicki


isn't it sad that you can't make a simple comment about the weather here without some pervert turning it into a sexual referrence?

damn liberals.


GravatarDWD,

326.7 on my 5th or 6th whack.

I would have done a screenshot if I had known it was bragging material.


GravatarI gotta run, folks. Zapette is having a jewelry sale today, and I've gotta make a guest appearence.

Don't forget, I've got snow and kitties at my homepage (updated today).

Lub ya!!


GravatarOSCE: US-RUSSIA CONFRONTATION EXPECTED AT MEETING

The stage is set for a confrontation between Russia and the United States and its allies at the upcoming meeting in Slovenia of the foreign ministers of the Vienna-based Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE). The conference (December 5-6) in Ljubljana will review negotiations that took place during the year to meet Russia’s demands for changes in the way the OSCE operates. Diplomats say Russia has achieved a few of its goals but major changes -- particularly on election monitoring -- have been forcefully rejected by the United States. Moscow’s uneasy relations with Georgia and Moldova are also expected to be discussed in the closed-door talks with Russia that take place during the conference.


GravatarRMJ ~

Read that earlier. Isn't that wild?

I thought they had a plan in place?


GravatarI think Coulter has fantasies about being attacked by male bloggers. It would really freak her out if female bloggers attacked her. I say we should get the Feminist Justice League of America together.

And Althouse, in case you're lurking the FJLA will not come to your rescue, so don't even ask. Also, we will not stay with the assigned topics.


GravatarWeather?

It's 83 in Houston today.

Lovely 3rd of December to you all.


GravatarGood morning, folks.

Just wanted to recommend this interesting post on Pentagon psy-ops from WhirledView.

I now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.


GravatarGood morning, folks.

Just wanted to recommend this interesting post on Pentagon psy-ops from WhirledView.

I now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.


Gravatar
Iranian Majlis Speaker invited to Turkey


LONDON, December 3 (IranMania) - Iran's Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki discussed expansion of Tehran-Ankara ties with Turkish Parliament Speaker Bulent Arinc who invited his Iranian counterpart to pay a visit to Turkey, IRNA said.

Referring to the long history of the two capitals' cordial relations, Mottaki said promotion of bilateral parliamentary relations is a must for cementing all-out relations between Tehran and Ankara, IRNA added.

The foreign minister added he would definitely convey Arinc's invitation for a visit to Turkey to Iran's Majlis Speaker Gholam-Ali Haddad Adel.


GravatarRMJ ~

Read that earlier. Isn't that wild?

I thought they had a plan in place?
Vicki


Well then it's not just me.

Could it be any clearer the lunatics are running the asylum?


GravatarVicki - oh lucky - and dirk, you know what I mean and it isn't that.

Besides, a mere "several inches" isn't enough to constitute "lucky". Now, 7, 8, 9 - yeah.



[you are really a bad boy lately, dirk.]


Gravatar320.5

My snowman just got bigger! I ROCK!


GravatarAnn Coulter thinks the only way she can talk to me is with a baseball bat. So I'm dressing her up as a penguin before I hit her and send her skinny ass to Antarctica.
Arabella


I'm sure she loved the portrayal of herself expertly handling that shotgun and blowing off those dissident zombies' legs. She was probably stroking her dick as she watched that.


Gravatar
it sucks, but not incendiary.

It is to me. Seeing that shit makes me want to hit something...

301.9



GravatarOur Leader!

Goose step, everyone! C'mon, it's fun!
Litz

If it was in my neighborhood, he'd have a mustache


GravatarCould it be any clearer the lunatics are running the asylum?

I'm gonna git me one a them contracts. I'll just shoot a few thousand bucks to a choice GOP official and make a cool billion.


GravatarExplanation from Markos on Daily Kos site problems can be found here:

http://www.politicalcortex.com/s...12/3/124240/ 077

Not sabotage, not Sober virus-related.


GravatarThe game about keeping the drunk upright is good, too. It's here:
Third Game


GravatarWeather?

It's 83 in Houston today.


Weird weather for the Big XII title game...


GravatarJust what we need to make the nightmare more perfect: Battle Ax Babs pushing her way in to help Fredo.


GravatarThere used to be an online game called "Smite Thee" that was quite fun.

You got to play God and hurl thunderbolts at the people as they built the temple.

I lost the link, though.


Gravatar311


GravatarI'm sure she loved the portrayal of herself expertly handling that shotgun and blowing off those dissident zombies' legs. She was probably stroking her dick as she watched that.

She probably thought the "dom" scenes were too tame as well.

BTW, anyone got Soros' number? My fuckin' check ain't showed up yet, and damn it, if I'm gonna piss on the "holidays", I want my money!


GravatarThe United States Agency for International Development is seeking applications

Is the Heritage Foundation website down or something?
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GravatarFux news is really pushing the al qaeda #3 story.


GravatarFux news is really pushing the al qaeda #3 story.
P O'Neill


Beats talking about all the kids we lost in the last couple days, I guess.


GravatarI can't wait to hear Coulter raving about the liberal media forcing a zombie movie on America. Forcing it into peoples livings rooms via cable TV. Forcing people without cable to get cable so that they can be forced to watch the zombie movie. Forcing Showtime to offer the zombie movie for free.

It's all about force isn't it, Ann?


GravatarFux news is really pushing the al qaeda #3 story.
P O'Neill


The guy in the red shirt?

Didn't they get him last week?


Gravatar#3 story

Well, shit, it's like rotating your stock: every time we kill one #3, #4 moves up. I wanna know about #1. The OsamaClock is at 1500 something. Unbury his zombie bones and parade 'em down Wall Street.


Gravatar311
ql in ny


"311, I want to fight."

(from yesterday's thread)

Now I'm gone.


GravatarYou know what the sweetest job in the world must be?

Al-Qaida's #2 man.

No pressure of leadership, no serial death.

Those Islamic radicals really need to quit naming their #3 men "Kenny," in my opinion. (You bastards!)


GravatarBush can only count up to 3.


GravatarBush can only count up to 3

We keep taking out the Holy Ghost. We'd take out the Son but he might get resurrected. You gotta take out the Father if you wanna get anywhere.


GravatarT2-Yes, I need help! Do you want us to email you or is there a post somewhere?

THNX so much for asking!


GravatarOBL is Zawahiri's #2.
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GravatarI predict that we'll soon hear the following from Ann Coulter.

"Bill, I didn't see the movie but a friend told me about it."

Yeah, Ann. You didn't watch it. (Like I believe that.) But I bet you have all kinds of opinions on it, and how it's an example of the liberal media attacking you. Attacking you with zombies.

And Althouse will be crying that the film was sexists and where are the feminists?


GravatarWhen I regularly watched C-SPAN, I could swear the rightwing nuts who called in were the same stock callers day after day.

Can't prove it, but they sure sounded the same.


Stupid is a one-note tune.


GravatarOh! 199.4 on a head plug.


GravatarIn a move comparable to real estate moguls, architects, and elevator manufacturers traditionally eliminating a designated "thirteenth floor" from high-rise buildings, the al-Qaeda High Command has announced the immediate elimination of "#3" from all personnel rankings.

Surviving #3s have been reclassified to #4, except in cases where a #2 position is vacant.

Surprisingly, there appears to be little complaint from those bumped down to the next largest number as a result of this reorganization.

Al-Qaeda #1,493,343 was sorrowfully informed that his position has been temporarily eliminated. However, he is expected to be reinstated well before his unemployment benefits run out due to normal attrition.


Gravatar My favorite was NBC's lisa myers fact check segment which managed to correct no incorrect facts.
Atrios


Bitch needs to fact-check herself. And stay away from audiotape-editing equipment.


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ql in ny


Welcome to the party QL

Those Islamic radicals really need to quit naming their #3 men "Kenny," in my opinion. (You bastards!)

I thought it was their red uniforms.

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Gravatarhint: after the launch, hold the button down and release to swing.

Omigod. If people quit calling I can try this!!! It's the little things in life ain't it?


GravatarVicki, ya' still here? Is this the game you were talking about?
http://gamescene.com/game.php?sm...php?smitethee& 2


Gravatar320.5

My snowman just got bigger! I ROCK!
/not Katie Couric


somebody juiced the penguin


Gravatar Weather?

It's 83 in Houston today.

Lovely 3rd of December to you all.
Rmj,


Yah, we're headed for the 80s here in Dallas today.

Lovely 3d of December back at ya.


GravatarCOnfession: I used to enjoy Brian Lamb. But there was a change in the way he portrayed partisanship that started to annoy me. Probably about 8 years ago it started...
Vicki | 12.03.05 - 1:00 pm

Or was it about 13 years ago, like when Clinton was inaugurated? Or was it when the Rethugs took over the House in '94?

Since I cancelled extended cable, I no longer get C-Span, and, boy, did I miss it. But the morning wingnut callers made me tend to tune out that portion of the program, so I would then miss the guests doing more explication and less responding to callers.

Oh, well--Internet makes up for the loss. Sort of--can't wash dishes and read/comment on blogs at the same time! or clean, cook, do laundry.

Hhhmmmm--maybe that's why there are more dust kitties around the place....


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200.7

And I thought I had a hole in one.

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GravatarI have no opinion on this "Washington Monthly" - I've never read an issue, and while I may have heard of it, I don't remember anything about it. I don't particularly doubt that it has a right-wing bias, though.

However, the mathematics at the beginning of this article are absurd.

The article argues that, given the distribution of (approximately) 54%-46% in Congress, it wouldn't be surprising to find that the invited guests were 54% Republican.

There were 97 guests. 54% of 97 would be 52 or 53 people.

There were 58 Republican guests. So it was off of the optimum by 5 or 6 Republicans.

Meanwhile, the article also states that the distribution of guests was "nearly two to one". That would imply sixty-four or sixty-five Republicans.

Again, there were 58 Republican guests. So it was off of two-to-one by seven or eight Republicans.

When an article implicitly claims that a difference of seven or eight is negligible, but another difference of five or six is something to get all worked up about, you can be fairly confident that the article is not objective.


GravatarIt's 83 in Houston today.

Lovely 3rd of December to you all.
Rmj,

Yah, we're headed for the 80s here in Dallas today.


Awwwww, pipe down you two. I's cold here and might snow later.


Gravatar323.4 and I'm done.


GravatarLovely 3d of December back at ya.
Tena


Well, it is my ex-wife's birthday, so unholy happenings are to be expected.


GravatarLook at this news:
Sales slump for Impotence Drugs

The economy is in trouble.

bush: done, ruined and fucked.


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199.6

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GravatarErrr, I mean "Washington Journal".


Gravatarhad no problem putting up huge billboards with Bush's face and the words "OUR LEADER" on them not long ago.

Sweet Jesus in chains. Today's double feature is now 1984 (the John Hurt-Richard Burton version) followed by Richard III (the brilliant McKellen version).


GravatarLook at this news:
Sales slump for Impotence Drugs


How could anyone write that story and never once use the word "limp"?

I am amazed.


GravatarBitch needs to fact-check herself. And stay away from audiotape-editing equipment.

Word! They need to rotate out all the D.C. reporters after a few years. Those folks wouldn't know reality if it jumped up and said, "BOO!" They get too far up the asses of the folks they are SUPPOSED to be reporting on.


Gravatarflaccid


GravatarI think thie quoted passage doesn't take its thinking far enough (apart from the sloppy error about 60:40 being nearly two to one--if we want to rid the public realm of the kinds of gross manipulations of language and numbers that have becomed the default, we have to be more careful ourselves).

It's a mistake in my view to endorse the principle that on a news program like WJ, representation should more or less fall in line with electoral results. There's a more radical principle in play here: in a healthy democracy, should the media not tilt against the grain of the government?

This follows from any position that grants that power tends to corrupt. As long as we think this, it's the media's job to be constitutionally sceptical about whomever is in power. A rule of thumb might even be to reverse the electoral figures. If Congress and Senate are 53-55% one way, we'd be better off if WJ went 53-55% oppositional, so to speak.

In short, the figures raise the question: do the American people think that it is the job of the media to give the benefit of the doubt to their government, so that it becomes the government's medium on balance, or do they think that the media are there on balance to keep the government from getting too comfortable? Heartbreakingly, the answer to this question seems to be in real doubt.


GravatarThere were 58 Republican guests. So it was off of the optimum by 5 or 6 Republicans.

Meanwhile, the article also states that the distribution of guests was "nearly two to one". That would imply sixty-four or sixty-five Republicans.

Again, there were 58 Republican guests. So it was off of two-to-one by seven or eight Republicans.

When an article implicitly claims that a difference of seven or eight is negligible, but another difference of five or six is something to get all worked up about, you can be fairly confident that the article is not objective.


???
See the post above in this thread that does a statistical analysis on the results.


GravatarIt may well be the case, as el suggests, that advertisers universally reject "incendiary" content on billboards as determined by their legal advisors.

But it would also seem that incendiary is in the eye of the beholder.


GravatarOT, but Chomsky chimed in on l'affaire Plame at his Znet blog.

He closes with this observation about the dems:

About the “opposition,” [the Democrats] it’s instructive to see their inability to register any political gains from the implosion of the Republican right. Whatever gains they’ve made are traceable to disgust with the Bush crowd, not support for the opposition. An authentic opposition party would have made significant gains.

I'm beginning to think that the dems are actually fulfilling their new corporate political function -- that of a fake political opposition party.


GravatarDkos back up.


GravatarWell, 7 dozen chocolate chip cookies, 5 dozen peanut blossoms, a few dozen chunks of shortbread later, I'm back. The tomato soup cake cupcakes are still in the oven.


Gravatararabella: from the article you linked to -- i see this as a very good sign actually. finally 'skepticism' is making a comeback, and i think it's carrying over in how people view chimpy and the media:

"But today, with many patients angry about drug prices and worried that companies are downplaying side effects, drug advertising seems to have lost some of its power."


GravatarWell, 7 dozen chocolate chip cookies, 5 dozen peanut blossoms, a few dozen chunks of shortbread later, I'm back.

Damn. You must be STUFFED!


Gravatar
Damn. You must be STUFFED!


Heh. Nope, but I'm taking advantage of the freezing temps to store some in the garage.


GravatarYes. I'm happy to see consumers reacting negatively to Big Pharma advertising. Drugs are expensive and they all have side effects. Take a pill if you have to pee to often. Take a pill if you can't sleep. Take a pill for every twitch, ache and spasm. Big Pharma raises all of its money in the USA. It's criminal and people are fed up.


Gravatar The game about keeping the drunk upright


got 74 meters


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200

Hole in one!!!!
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GravatarOh, yeah, right. Like any of those wackos have any support in Congress.
CEA

The trolls are becoming more and more desperate.
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat


I guess my troll parody is getting more and more convincing. That's twice in one day!


GravatarI guess my troll parody is getting more and more convincing. That's twice in one day!
CEA


Okay, I'll admit it: I've been punked.

But, hey, don't you agree that that trolls we've gotten of late are SO outrageous that it's hard to tell the "real" ones from parody?


GravatarTrolls like to sleep late on weekends. Unless they have to attend troll training seminars on Saturdays.


GravatarBut, hey, don't you agree that that trolls we've gotten of late are SO outrageous that it's hard to tell the "real" ones from parody?
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat


It's a sad state of affairs. After the zombie movie, I think that about half the Eper-troll posts were parodies, but I really couldn't tell.


GravatarA day late, and not actually my own (though the resemblance to Tista is striking), but...

catblogging! (I've never seen such an amazing sleeping position as this.)


Gravatar320.3

take that kent

btw - Can anyone recommend a good rpg ala myst or lighthouse?


Gravatarbtw - Can anyone recommend a good rpg ala myst or lighthouse?
ql in ny


Grand Theft Auto San Andreas got a bit of press a while back.


GravatarSee you later, moonbats.


Gravatargot 74 meters

That's good!


Gravatarcatblogging! (I've never seen such an amazing sleeping position as this.)
rorschach


I was waiting to see some unusual on-the-back pose or something. That is truly amazing.


GravatarHave any of you seen the clip on C%L with Hitchins on Scarborough country?

Priceless!!!!

He is debating some nutter from the Christian Right who is defending Xmas.

Hitchens: Don't invite me on and tell me to keep quiet. Don't do that.

Scarborough: Well, Christopher, why don't you let other people talk for a second, OK?

Hitchens: I came here to talk, not to listen to you. You invited me on for my opinions, not to listen to yours.

Scarborough: OK. Well, you know what, Christopher? I will never make that mistake again.

Hitchens: This guy from Lynchburg defines progress as teaching junk science to our children, and leaving us the mockery of the world by pretending that we did not evolve.


GravatarDoes anyone have a link to the actual circualtion numbers of the major political journals?


Gravatar 320.3

take that kent


Well ql, I have been north of 320 myself, (nice batting though). No I spent a bit of time trying to pop the ball up and have the penguin bill first at the 200 foot stick, per some bet above.

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Gravatarrorschach - that's a first. I've seen cats do all kinds of crazy things, but I've never seen one sleep like that.


Gravatarcatblogging! (I've never seen such an amazing sleeping position as this.)
rorschach


I'd say it was Photoshopped, except I used to have a cat that slept atop an open door...


GravatarYeah, I've got some of those as well, but that one, CEA, is just astounding.


Gravatarhere's a link to more smack the penguins games:

http://penguin.omnihosts.net/


GravatarMoonies,

What's going on? How was the zombie movie? What did I miss/


Gravatar(I'll ask this periodically)

Does anyone else need info on how to get Zombies from bittorrent?


GravatarWell ql, I have been north of 320 myself, (nice batting though). No I spent a bit of time trying to pop the ball up and have the penguin bill first at the 200 foot stick, per some bet above.

Show off!



GravatarAnn Coulter thinks the only way she can talk to me is with a baseball bat.


I love how these wingers threaten everyone who dares disagree with them with physical violence.

I don't think that cunt has ever had a baseball bat in her talons in her entire life. She wouldn't even know how to use one.

I, on the other hand, do.


Gravatar

Damn, 200 and another penguin in one.
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GravatarHe is debating some nutter from the Christian Right who is defending Xmas.

Can't believe my brother just gave me this actual horseshit. He's going with "this country was founded...". I said "Whoa buddy- is there some dude standing at your front door ready to arrest you (cos it's your god given right in America to wish anyone - even if they're wearing a turban or a sari or something)for actually saying, Have a Merry Christmas? Did Ted Kennedy fly to Washington last night to draft emergency bill to arrest Christmas Wishers!!!???


GravatarWhen an article implicitly claims that a difference of seven or eight is negligible, but another dif--

Shorter moronic brownshirt fuck: I got nothing...


GravatarTell your brother about the church Ben Franklin had built in Philadelphia, open to any visiting preacher, expressly including Muslims. The Founders wanted to hear everything.


GravatarY'all are way too entertaining today, so I'm posting, what, 30 minutes behind what I read. That Smite Me game is addictive!

Someone just sent me this, as I'd missed the original broadcast on Family Guy: There's a new FCC Song. (video link)


GravatarCan't believe my brother just gave me this actual horseshit. He's going with "this country was founded...".

To coin a phrase, "Sadly, yes." I can believe that.


GravatarA day late, and not actually my own (though the resemblance to Tista is striking), but...

catblogging! (I've never seen such an amazing sleeping position as this.)
rorschach



I keep telling my oldest brother that he must have been a cat in a previous life.

He, too, can asleep anyplace!


GravatarTell your brother about the church Ben Franklin had built in Philadelphia, open to any visiting preacher, expressly including Muslims. The Founders wanted to hear everything.
T2


Ben Franklin..hell, all the founding fathers...would be mighty pissed off at these right wing assholes we have around these days!


GravatarBonjour, just passing...

I love Canada.. instead of having football or nascar on a saturday afternoon, we get bobsleigh and curling on our national tv!

and now you daily dose of kittens:

http://www.dailykitten.com/

bonne journée!


Gravatar"Kittens are born with their eyes shut. They open them in about six days, take a look around, then close them again for the better part of their lives." - Stephen Baker


GravatarI love Canada.. instead of having football or nascar on a saturday afternoon, we get bobsleigh and curling on our national tv!

I bet you have the women's curling nudie calendar on your wall, don't you?


GravatarAnother place I go besides here to keep some of my photos online, Flickr.com has gotten political in the last few months. Considering that it's an international photography site, that's interesting.


GravatarBen Franklin..hell, all the founding fathers...would be mighty pissed off at these right wing assholes we have around these days!

I figure he spent some time with his brother in law last night who is totally obnoxious. He's a podiatrist and thinks he is Ben Casey.


GravatarDamn, 200 and another penguin in one.
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UppityNegro™Embigulator

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I did the 200 with the snout in the snow. I was trying for distance, though. Does it still count?


GravatarFirstCoffeeHICA!
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GravatarI bet you have the women's curling nudie calendar on your wall, don't you?
rorschach


nah, i'm not a lesbian! But admit it, bobsleigh if fun and the competition i'm watching is from Lake Placid NY. I'm sure not one channel in the US shows this, but it's a world cup leg! The Olympics in 2 months: more than ice skating you know! But american channels... each Olympics it's like there's only 5 or 6 sports in all the Games!


GravatarI bet you have the women's curling nudie calendar on your wall, don't you?
rorschach

Where do you get those?


Gravatar
I did the 200 with the snout in the snow. I was trying for distance, though. Does it still count?


Of course it does!!!!!!

Welcome to the club!!
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Gravatar"Kittens are born with their eyes shut. They open them in about six days, take a look around, then close them again for the better part of their lives." - Stephen Baker
Dr. Pedant



"My cat was SO upset yesterday he only slept TWENTY THREE hours!"
- Jay Leno


Gravatarhere you go bill

http://www.thecurlingnews.com/


GravatarHecate -The zombie movie was astonishing.

It was as if we'd written it. I'm sorry you didn't see it.



I'm only online intermittently Batties, so if I don't answer a question, it's because my connection is gone again.

I fucking hate Comcast, and I'm beginning to hate them with the force of ten thousand burning stars.


Gravatar"My cat was SO upset yesterday he only slept TWENTY THREE hours!"
- Jay Leno


Sometimes I think my cats are depressed since they spend so much time in bed...

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Gravatar
200
Trifecta!!!!!

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GravatarThe nut jobs preface everything they say with………..

“The Founding Fathers would have,”

and then describe every crazed idea they have. The sheeple have the impression of The Founding Fathers as a sort of Robertson/Falwell creation.

It’s all about believing the history you want to believe, rather than the truth.


GravatarPlum P: YOU ROCK! I'm gonna get me one. And I ain't even a damn furriner.

Hecate: if you didn't see Zombies, you can download it. Lemme know if you don't know how to torrent.


GravatarCSpan is part of the cabal, including Brian(Nixon stoolie) Lamb.

Their 'contest' for an 'everyday viewer' was won by a girl with two brothers who were aprt of the effort to stymie the FLA recount and probably Brooks Bros. rioters.

They screen Democrats who call and don't let ones who make tacit points call back , well beyond the supposed 30 day limit that is not even enforced daily for the republiclown line.

They're fit for a class action suit. I won't give them money out of the cable bill for being treated second class with regard to free speech on a network my contriobutions have funded since the first day it was enacted.

It would need enough people to do it. Hit 'em where it counts. Stop giving them such blatant cover to a scam. They were the people who backgrounded the 50-50 split bullshit for the last stolen election.

Complicit help is still a war crime. We're all war criminals if we let CSpam continue its daily mindless distortion of p[olitical dialog.


Watching Washington Journal is like listening to Gwen Ifill these days.

It's no longer a daily item. They've poisoned the discourse there to an extreme shade of blood red as well.


The girl who screens calls has a blacklist for democrats. She even assks partisan questions at times of the Dems line. End the charade and bring them down as well.


A private network will step up(Soros comes to mind). You think unions don't have advertising money? You think green-leaning folks would not come back to the liberals with such a network? You think the environmentalists want to be heard more instead of less?

Tear that fucker down too. There's no reason to be trodded on daily. As a song goes... "Set this fucker off!"


GravatarPlum P
Too funny
Thanks, that will cover several Christmas presents


GravatarThe sheeple have the impression of The Founding Fathers as a sort of Robertson/Falwell creation.

Try telling them Washington was a stoner.


GravatarI fucking hate Comcast, and I'm beginning to hate them with the force of ten thousand burning stars.
Tena


Gravatar302.7


GravatarWhats the current distance record? I'm stuck at 317


Gravatarwith the force of ten thousand burning stars.



A-list or B?

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Gravatar306.6


Gravatar322.9!!!!!!!Woo hoo


GravatarHmm, Haloscan ate my post

I was asking Tena if you can get another provider.


GravatarAs for the windows stuff, I got the same notice, think it is with a relative doing downloads or a software addition for their old gaming system.



So far the firewall has done decently in live time but the shutdown status may compromise things, the only time I've gotten messages are after shutting donw manually.


Gravatar"My cat was SO upset yesterday he only slept TWENTY THREE hours!"
- Jay Leno


Sometimes I think my cats are depressed since they spend so much time in bed...

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dieselcreek


The last snowstorm we had, I had to go to work.

I took a look at my big black cat, Wizard, already making himself at home in the center of bed:

"You lucky bastard!"


Gravatar307.7


GravatarCentral has the at a bit above 326.

I'm next with 323+


Gravatar"Plum P: YOU ROCK! I'm gonna get me one. And I ain't even a damn furriner."

what a "damn furriner" TZ?"

the CBC is also covering skeleton (the thing"s smaller than a luge, a verry nutty sport) and speed skating. All the competitions are live from the USA, but not one american channel is showing it!


Gravatargoing to a relative's may try some proxy blogging from there...


Gravatar Iraqi soldiers killed in ambush

At least 19 Iraqi soldiers have been killed in an attack by militants in the area of Adhaim, 100km north of the Iraqi capital, Baghdad.

A roadside bomb exploded as an army convoy was passing before the vehicles came under heavy gunfire.

At least another two soldiers were injured in the incident, which took place near the city of Baquba.

On Friday, the US military announced that 10 US marines had died in a roadside bomb attack in Falluja.

Members of Iraq's security forces have frequently been the targets of attacks, kidnappings and executions by insurgents.

Baquba and the area around it has often been the scene of violence.


GravatarChannel-hopping last night.

"Dead Aide In My Office" Scarborough was talking about the murderer in California and whether he should be executed.

They have Curtis Sliwa of the Guardian Angels on.

Wasn't that dipshit's 15 minutes up about 1988?


GravatarCentral has the at a bit above 326.

I'm next with 323+
ql in ny

Bows deeply


GravatarI'm next with 323+

Did 320.2 once last night. Thrice today I've hit 317.2.


Gravatarwooohoo

323.5


GravatarSmith vs. Darwin
Like Intelligent Design, the idea of the Invisible Hand stubbornly persists in the face of overwhelming evidence

James K. Galbraith

http://www.motherjones.com/cgi- b...ith_darwin.html


The above is kind of interesting.


GravatarHey, any of you guys with digital cable: "Homecoming" is already up on OnDemand.


GravatarWhats the shortest?


Gravatar"You lucky bastard!"


That's been my feeling. Damn cats, I gotta feed them on their schedule or else they annoy the shit outta me. When I clean the litter boxes, they watch me with a look that say, "What the fuck are you doing playing with my shit?!" - or I have one cat trying to get into the litterbox as I'm cleaning it (fashionably late, as usual)

I have one cat - who will sit by herself in the middle of the living room (when everyone else is in other rooms) and whine until someone pays attention to her. EVERY damn night she does it until a call her name. She's the diva of the group...


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GravatarVicki? Gardening by the Yard guy just said that new research says that poinsettias aren't poisonous. Don't know if that only applies to people or kitties too, but that's what he said.


GravatarNew US airport security focuses on explosives

Washington (dpa) - Starting three days before Christmas, US air travellers will face more stringent body and luggage searches before boarding planes, a move aimed at more intense screening for explosives, a top US security official said Friday.

At the same time, new machines will monitor the air for the presence of explosives, and security screeners will be more able to identify bomb component parts on x-ray screens, said Kip Hawley, assistant secretary in the Transportation Security Administration.

In a departure from strict post-9/11 flight security, passengers will again be allowed to carry small scissors and tools, he said.

But he dismissed media hype earlier this week that focussed on the tools, saying they were "not the most important piece" of news.


GravatarI know lily's are poisious to kitty cats.


Gravatar|
/ Zombies for peace!


Gravatarql - I'm going to get another provider if they don't fix it this week. They are coming back out and the guy I talked to today said he thinks the cable needs to be replaced.

Guy was here last Wednesday, did nothing.

Fourth one.

Next week, it either gets fixed or I jerk it all out. Problem is, my alternative is SBC DSL, and everyone I know using it is having problems with it, too.


Gravatardieselcreek



As much as we bitch about them kitties, we love them!


GravatarInvisible Hand
Wrong.
The whole point of the invisible hand is to show how non-intelligent automata can coordinate.
To show how coordination takes place without agents, including the agency of god.
The invisible hand is the first step towards Darwin.


Gravatarpoinsettias: my cat Henriette ate quite a part of one last xmax. She vomited it afterwards but she's still alive, a diva like dieselcreek's...


Gravatar323.5
Moonbootica

Cool! I can't seem to find a trick to it tho.


GravatarRita Cosby's show is a hit???

With whom????


GravatarThe invisible hand is the first step towards Darwin.
bill


did you read the article?


GravatarBad day for Venice.


Gravatarfootloose the key is to make sure your hit has some power behind it, enough for the penguin to bounch/skid/bellyflop along the ground.

wack it too hard and the pegiun goes straight in the snow.

wack it too light and the peguin does not travel far.

at least thats my take on it


GravatarIf god is the invisible hand, it's not the god of western metaphysics.
It's an atheistic, materialist, pragmatic god.


GravatarNűr al-Cubicle: Venice is almost going through that daily these days...


GravatarGuy was here last Wednesday, did nothing.

Same deal. Ended them and went with WOW and though it's slower, I now have long distance calling. Gave that up in '95.


GravatarMy kitty finally went over the fence this morning.

We let him out about 6 - he pounces on feet under the covers until he wakes us up and we throw him out. When we got up around 8:30, he was gone.

I called and called and finally he came back over the fence.

::::::sigh::::::I had really hoped he'd just stay in the yard. What kind of idiot am I?


Gravatarwho is this "bill" individual?


Gravatarfair needs to tackled cspan. it seems like for every liberal forum you stumble onto, you have to wade through 8 heritage foundation ones. they need to be pushed back on this.


Gravatarkey is to make sure your hit has some power behind it, enough for the penguin to bounch/skid/bellyflop along the ground.

Oh. Here I was just trying to envision my boyfriend as the dumbass penguin.


GravatarAs much as we bitch about them kitties, we love them!



Most days.


Gravatar::::::sigh::::::I had really hoped he'd just stay in the yard. What kind of idiot am I?

Hey Tena, there is a North Fourty to keep an eye on now. Lots of stuff for your little scientist to explore.

He came back though and that is a good sign.

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GravatarTena - a dear, hopeful one. Get that stringey clingey fence built for Christmas.

Here's the okay for kitties plant list: http://www.cfainc.org/articles/p...-non- toxic.html


GravatarThe whole point of good science is to explain phenomena without invoking some kind of external, nonmaterial agency.
The Invisible Hand is the first attempt to do that with social and economic phenomena.


GravatarClick my home page for a short kitty bitch.


Gravatar::::::sigh::::::I had really hoped he'd just stay in the yard. What kind of idiot am I?
Tena

mine has to stay inside my patio or she's back in the house. When she does go over the fence, then it no outside for 3 days! Sadly, she still tries to go over the fence everytime i put her out...unless it's freezing like today!


GravatarMAN, Go out and buy the new Sufjan Stevens record "Illinois"

Just amazing shit. I am not a fan of any folk music besides anything that Pete Seeger sang, but this Stevens kid really has something interesting going on.


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GravatarWhen she does go over the fence, then it no outside for 3 days

Does she mark the calendar?


GravatarI remember reading that pointsettias are not poisonous to cats, that that is just an urban legend.


GravatarHere's a list of poisonous plants from the ASPCA Poison Center.

Poinsetta's are listed as "low toxicity."

Why take a chance? Get fake ones.


GravatarGWPDA - I am going to look into that fence - thanks for reminding me.

Our fence is wood but we had it made 10 feet high last year when the people across the alley put a 2d story on their house. I really didn't think he'd get over it, and we don't know exactly how he did.


GravatarClick my home page for a short kitty bitch.
ql in ny


Your kitty looks like my Wizard!


Gravatarql in ny: cute!!!!


Gravatarmy cats are never let out.

they are indoor kitty cats basically.

we only take them out on leads.

tho George is a scardy cat and disliked going outdoors lol he prefers the comforts of home and having access to food 24/7.

Heidi was a bit more relaxed


GravatarI had really hoped he'd just stay in the yard. What kind of idiot am I?

One with a cat!

Anyway, make sure he's micro-chipped...


GravatarI remember reading that pointsettias are not poisonous to cats, that that is just an urban legend.
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Mistleton and holly are poisonous.


GravatarGet fake ones.

erk. If you're going to do that, I'd just skip it.


GravatarNow on TCM: "The Long Long Trailer."

"Vertigo" later...


GravatarMajor Setback in the War On Christmas:


PBS will be airing the "Lawrence Welk Family Christmas Concert"


Analysis:Sending a dead man into the war can mean only one thing-the enemy is in its last throes.

Counter Action:None,stay
the course.


GravatarSorry - Mistletoe


GravatarLily's are poisionus for cats that i know.


GravatarIf you're going to do that, I'd just skip it.

You know, from a clueless male's perspective, I can't tell the difference between real poinsettas and silk/fabric...


GravatarAny good scientific methodology can be turned back into a metaphysic.
That's what conservatives do with the Invisible Hand.
Like Darwin's theory, the invisible hand has its flaws, but as a first approximation to research, it's indispensable.
Economic and social theory is impossible without invisible hand explanations.


GravatarOur cats are all indoor cats. Frankly, I wish we'd let them out - then we could give 'em the boot when they start going nuts.


GravatarI had really hoped he'd just stay in the yard. What kind of idiot am I?
Tena





I have a cat, peanut, who hates to be left outside. He was a farm cat who always snuck into the house. No worries with that scaredy cat.

Stone, the big cat, loves to explore and is afraid of nothing (used to beat up dogs for a hobby)- She got loose and didn't return for a week (and this is in downtown Madison on a very busy street) I thought she was gone forever. But she came a-callin at 3 am. "LET ME THE FUCK IN" is what I recall her saying.


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GravatarKarl Marx invoked all kinds of invisible hand explanations.


GravatarWho's the regular who's doing the cool-ass Photoshop comic strips, besides Elaine Supkis? I ran across that the other night, and forgot to add to my faves; now I wanna include it on my new Blogger bloggie (I'm leaving Modblog, for good).
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Gravatarjust tell your cat not to go too far.


GravatarIf god is the invisible hand, it's not the god of western metaphysics.
It's an atheistic, materialist, pragmatic god.
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So when is it going to do something about Bush and the fundies?


GravatarNow on TCM: "The Long Long Trailer."
Yea!! Thanks! I love that movie!


GravatarMy RIP Morgane was a screamer, she'd drive me nuts when she was hungry. Henriette my current cat almost never meows...but she bites so damn hard! I've got scares all over my arms.

I got her at one year, she was declawed (I'm against declawing but she needed a home and i adopted her). I never let her roam free because of that: in a fight with other cats (she hates any other cat) it would be a serious disavantage, irght?


GravatarPlum P - well, that's the method I've been using, and then in Colorado I won't let him out at all.

Problem is, he gets really mad at me and lets me know it. He stays mad for days and days. He wants out.

Little shit.

This is the moodiest cat I've ever had. Also the smartest. Way too fucking smart.


Gravatar"Vertigo" later...

Jimmy Stewart's giant flying head! Oooh, sca-ry!


Gravatarciao for now moonbats going to watch a DVD .


Gravatarthat susan chick following chimpy's naval academy rahrah highlighted a frontpage photo in the globeandmail, that clearly irritated her. it was a shot of cadets zonked out in their seats, with various body contortions and captioned that it was as they waited for his highness to appear.

she really made a big deal out of it and set it up as one of their callin segments -- a 'how dare those canadians mock our brave soldiers' kind of thing. a couple of idiot wingers of course called in bitching about the disrespect the paper displayed for fearless leader by implying the military doesn't respect him.

i'd never seen that kind of thing on cspan before -- certainly not by one of the hosts.


Gravatarthat susan chick following chimpy's naval academy rahrah highlighted a frontpage photo in the globeandmail, that clearly irritated her. it was a shot of cadets zonked out in their seats, with various body contortions and captioned that it was as they waited for his highness to appear.

she really made a big deal out of it and set it up as one of their callin segments -- a 'how dare those canadians mock our brave soldiers' kind of thing. a couple of idiot wingers of course called in bitching about the disrespect the paper displayed for fearless leader by implying the military doesn't respect him.

i'd never seen that kind of thing on cspan before -- certainly not by one of the hosts.


GravatarI never let her roam free because of that: in a fight with other cats (she hates any other cat) it would be a serious disavantage, irght?,/i>

Not from what I could tell with the last 4 cats I had. They were all declawed, and neutered, but two of my males were inveterate fighters and they ran the neighborhood, even without claws. They beat the shit out of the other cats, climbed any and everything and generally did not seem to miss their claws one bit.

True.


GravatarThis is the moodiest cat I've ever had. Also the smartest. Way too fucking smart.
Tena

what's her relation with other cats? Mine just hate other cats! She's a racist to her own race!


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Gravatardamn me and those damn tags - sorry Plum, that comment was totally borked.


GravatarCspan is the most objective and unbiased news source in America.


Gravatar"Vertigo" later...

Don't understand the appeal of Vertigio. Last night I tried to watch The Red Shoes. I adore symphonic music and admire ballet. I quit watching before first hour was over.


GravatarI never let her roam free because of that: in a fight with other cats (she hates any other cat) it would be a serious disavantage, irght?



Stone has no front claws 9, my god she would be a terror with em.

Her right-cross is spectacular. I've seen this cat knock a dog onto it's back heels. When she gets pissed at the other cats, it's boxin' time. Stone will whap Gabby so hard that Gabby goes down for the count (after a few seconds Gab shakes her head and gets back into the ring)

Luckily Stone doesn't start the fights, she just finishes em.

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GravatarI've watched many Noam Chomsky lectures on Cspan.
Where else can you watch 2 hours of Chomsky?


GravatarI really didn't think he'd get over it, and we don't know exactly how he did.
Tena


Didn't I tell you about my beautiful front patio, with the exactly too-high-for-Arthur-to-jump wall - the patio wall that when Arthur was lounging around the other day, he SOARED over when he saw the next door cat? Doggies and Kitties can fly when they want to. That's how.


GravatarNevermind -- I history'd it; it's Webspacez, an excellent site, btw.
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GravatarPlum - I adopted this one and he'd been in a cage with his two brothers for about 4 months, I think. He really wanted another kitty to play with when I first brought him home. I didn't get another one for several reasons - for one thing, I didn't think he'd ever bond with us completely if I did. For another, I can't handle two cats in the car twice a year for a day and half. One I can barely deal with - cats fucking hate motels.

So the answer is - I don't know. He really wanted to play with a neighbor cat for awhile - he'd roll over and show him his belly whenever the other cat came around. So I let that cat in one day. It was sad - Ole followed him around begging to play and the other cat turned around and growled. So I pitched him right out the door.

But now that Ole is full grown, and has been away from other cats for so long, he probably would resent it if I brought another cat in.


GravatarThis is the moodiest cat I've ever had. Also the smartest. Way too fucking smart.
Tena



That is Stone! Check out this picture and tell me she is not playing to the camera. Sneaky brat, that one.

http://www.therefinerygroup.com/...sonal/ stone.jpg


GravatarI just recently read an article by Naomi Klein in "The Nation" magazine about Disaster Capitalism.

It explains so much about the Bushboy regime and their obsession with privatizing the world and making it safe for their kind of "democracy." It also explains why New Orleans and the Gulf Coast will suffer for a long time to come before anyone sees any serious government help.

The point is that these scumbag Goopers want to control the world and when disasters strike, they don't see that as a moment to go and help people victimized by a tsunami or earthquake, they see it as an opportunity to squeeze the government into taking "loans" from the World Bank (Wolfowitz) or the IMF with all sorts of strings attached forcing them to sell off nationalized electric companies and other government operated functions.

Disasters also have a way of clearing out "undesireable populations," like fishing villages along waterfront property where high rise luxury hotels can be built to service a tourist trade.

This is the Gooper view of the futurer. More for the rich, less for the poor, until feudalism is fully restored to the planet!


Gravatarjk, what, they play chomsky maybe once a year? we deserve better than that.


GravatarI had a hard time with Vertigo--Stewart's obsessive cop was really playing against type. But watched it not too long ago, maybe I just had to grow into it. Hitchcock's psychological films are intoxicating in an odd way.


Gravatardieselcreek: your Stone looks like my Henriette!

my break is over, see you all later!


Gravataranyone who lets their cat out is nuts. i can't tell you what used to pay in vet fees for punctured eyes, torn ears, infected wounds, bleeding...you name it...not to mention two flattened cats under cars. then there's milage when they're found across town. Never again.


Gravatarhe SOARED over when he saw the next door cat? Doggies and Kitties can fly when they want to. That's how.

I think you're right. This one is practically capable of sprouting wings. I should have named him Houdini.


GravatarDoggies and Kitties can fly when they want to.



Yep, as a kid I had a half/wolf. Sweet sweet dog, but there was NO way you were going to keep him locked or tied up. He could jump a 6 foot fence without trouble.

Man I miss that dog.


Gravatardieselcreek - oh yeah! What a ham - and a pretty kitty.


GravatarHitchcock's psychological films are intoxicating in an odd way.

Would you consider Rope or The Rope to be same cos that was excruciating.


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GravatarDoggies and Kitties can fly when they want to.


i beleive that


GravatarWay way late cause I've been doing dishes: a "damn furriner" is my way of joking about nude curling being a Canadian sport. That's all. Bad joke. But loving.


GravatarSpeaking of which, I owe Arthur a walkaround.

Pray that I do not clonk my head again on the irrigation well roof. It still hurts. A lot. Well, not a lot, but it still hurts.

Walkies!


Gravataranyone who lets their cat out is nuts. i can't tell you what used to pay in vet fees for punctured eyes, torn ears, infected wounds, bleeding...you name it...not to mention two flattened cats under cars. then there's milage when they're found across town. Never again.
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good good point!

now i really have to leave,I'm on trouble now...


GravatarMy brother just sent me pictures of a dog (pit bull) that went a few rounds with a porcupine. I'd put them up but it's not pretty.


GravatarSheets.


GravatarThe Washington Journal has succumbed to the money pressures that the Goopers exert on any and all programming.

It is no accident that FAUX NEWS has risen to the level of deceit and menace that it is today.

It is no accident that Kenneth Tomlinson tried to turn public broadcasting into a rightwing apparatus.

And it sure is no accident that the Bushboy regime has been paying Iraqi newspapers to publish stories that make the US look good, whether it's deserved or not.

In the 20th century Marshall McCluhan said, "The medium is the message." In the 21st century the Goopers are saying "control the media and you control the messages."


GravatarMy brother just sent me pictures of a dog (pit bull) that went a few rounds with a porcupine. I'd put them up but it's not pretty.

put 'em up!

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GravatarAs for letting cats out - it's generally believed that indoor cats live longer, I agree. I had intended for this cat to be an indoor cat, but he made it clear he wanted out and my husband is a sucker.

The last two out of the 4 cats I had before Ole died of old age. They'd been indoor/outdoor cats their whole lives. One was almost 23 when I finally had her put down.

The other was about 19.


GravatarCats never really get stuck in trees.


GravatarMy brother just sent me pictures of a dog (pit bull) that went a few rounds with a porcupine. I'd put them up but it's not pretty.




Almost yearly, as a kid, we had to deal with this problem. My mom still has problems with her Golden and Samoan hitting the woods to look for trouble.

It seems like it takes some dogs 3 run-ins with a porcupine before they give up. Foolish critters.


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GravatarMy parents had a trout farm in the Sierras in California, near Mt. Lassen, at the end of the war. They lived up there and ran the place - I wish I it hadn't been before I was born, but anyway - and they had 2 dogs. One was a shepherd mix, Prince, and one was a beagle, Tippy. Prince got a noseful for porcupine quills just once - that's all it took. But Dad told me Tippy was so dumb, he never learned. He came home regularly with a noseful, and Daddy had to hold him down and pull them out with pliers.


GravatarOne was almost 23 when I finally had her put down.



Wow...It's interesting how long cats can live.


Gravatarlocks nur al-Cubicle in the house.


Gravatarof, not for.


GravatarDaddy had to hold him down and pull them out with pliers.



Yep- I've done it. Makes me feel so damn bad for the animal. But after a day they have mostly forgotten about it.


Gravatardieselcreek - well, Twitty was one of my least favorite cats ever. So naturally, she lived that long.

There was something about her that made all other cats, starting with her mother, try to kill or drive her away. I think she had some kind of problem to which other cats were sensitive. She didn't do anything that we could tell - she was just very shy and very cranky and dumb. But she was uniformly despised and tormented by the other cats.


GravatarBut she was uniformly despised and tormented by the other cats.



Hmmmm, how strange. A long life is the best revenge I suppose.


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Gravatardieselcreek - those quills are barbed, aren't they?

Yow. That's got to hurt.


Gravatarrudy, good piece, thanks for pointing it out. pre 9/11, i was reading about all the corporate espionage the cia was doing overseas. till then, it hadn't occured to me that the cia wasn't there to protect us, the common people. they're being tasked to protect corporate interests.


GravatarGAF has been spending about $50,000 a year on gift cards at the Wal-Mart Supercenter at 11110 Causeway Blvd. in Brandon. For years GAF sent a white, female administrator to buy them without incident. This time, when she was on vacation the day before Thanksgiving, Pitts did the job himself. He phoned in the order for 520 cards, got the accounting department to issue Wal-Mart a $13,600 check and then encountered a royal hassle trying to exchange it for gift cards at the store.

"For a while there I thought I was going to prison," he said. "It was a totally humiliating experience."

-The Katrina effect:

White people shop.

Black people steal.


GravatarAnd Atrios leans just a little bit left, of Michael Moore.


GravatarMichael Moore is part of the majority of Americans who doubt George Bush's reasonings behind the war...


GravatarShouldn't you expect more Democrats and opposition when the Republicans are in power, just as you would expect more Republicans if the Dems were in power? That would seem to be more of a balance.


GravatarThis thread's about gone now, but I want to put in my 2-cents.

It's a pleasure to see a rigorous, well-documented review of C-SPAN's bias problem. I noticed in the late-1980's and early-1990's that C-SPAN's coverage of think-tank "presentations" (press briefings, panel discussions, etc.) skewed to the right; even when Libertarian groups and representatives (such as the CATO Institute) were presented, they discussed economic (and thus conservative) much more than social issues. I used to refer to this as "C-SPAN's swing to the right".

It always bugged me that they haven't been called on this more often. Now that progressive media-watchers such as MediaMatters and Somerby's blog (as well as FAIR) are beginning to provide a counter to the Right's decades-long war on "liberal media", this will hopefully change.


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