When I saw Modo recently she talked about when she was a WH correspondent and how she pissed someone off and they yanked her "access."
She said it was actually easier to be a reporter without it.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 12:00 am | #
I'm still listening to these crazy women who still defend chimpy's war.
Thankfully some of the women are sane. It's still distressing to hear this.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 12:02 am | #
I feel like I'm talking to myself.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 12:03 am | #
She said it was actually easier to be a reporter without it.
four legs good
That's if you wanna, like, report, instead of taking dicktation like JFM et al. And boy they et it all...
Doozer, (truncated) |
12.10.05 - 12:03 am | #
Well. THis is interesting.
The black mothers seem to be against the war, the white women are all "go chimpy!!"
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 12:03 am | #
It's the journalism that is valued by the people
with entrenched power.
masculine_monica_nyc |
12.10.05 - 12:04 am | #
***OT***
Is there a version of this site that's text-only, like for the visually-impaired that use speaking software?
pardner |
12.10.05 - 12:04 am | #
yeah, this was a good piece re: the Woodward myth.
I agree w/whoever posted at Huffington (forgive bad memory), but Woodward really is the "blonde" of so-called journamalism.
and he gets away with being so!!!
Sarah Deere |
12.10.05 - 12:04 am | #
Let's face it. Woodward served the public and the journalism business well in the early-mid 70's.
But, he got a taste, and even back then he was always kinda weird.
Now he's more completely weird, and completely saturated.
Max Planck |
12.10.05 - 12:05 am | #
Bob Woodward is sliding into irrelevance.
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere |
Homepage |
12.10.05 - 12:05 am | #
I couldn't give a shit about anyone in Iraq. They deserve what they get.
Matt T. |
12.10.05 - 12:05 am | #
That's if you wanna, like, report, instead of taking dicktation like JFM et al. And boy they et it all...
And yes, you're correct.
Can someone hit this idiot broadcaster? please.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 12:05 am | #
Woodward is a useless sack of shit. Nobody should ever buy another one of his books.
Buzz Bomb |
12.10.05 - 12:05 am | #
Was it I.F. Stone had the theory everything you needed to know was already in the public record & all you had to do was read it? Not that I'm sure that applies here, especially the way BushCo has eviscerated the very idea of a public record...
I know in small towns the way to know what local gov't is doing is to read the minutes of the County Supervisors & City Hall meetings and just skip the article.
nick carraway |
12.10.05 - 12:05 am | #
The black mothers seem to be against the war, the white women are all "go chimpy!!"
Wow, never woulda guessed that.
Eli |
Homepage |
12.10.05 - 12:06 am | #
Bob Woodward is sliding into irrelevance.
He's an asshole. And now everyone knows it.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 12:06 am | #
Plan of Attack, Woodward conducted 75 interviews, all of them anonymously sourced except for two -- Bush and Rumsfeld. Nowhere in the book is mention made of, say, Richard Clarke. How are we supposed to evaluate the veracity of this information?
Gee, he just answered his own question, didn't he?
Dr. Wu |
12.10.05 - 12:06 am | #
Pardner,
I am pretty sure you can select ALL and copy it into whatever program you use for reading. When you copy, it comes out as ASCII or ANSI Text, either one should work.
DWD - Listener in the Snow |
Homepage |
12.10.05 - 12:07 am | #
Someone mentioned the other day that Joan Dideon did a piece on Woodward a long time ago calling him out on the fact that he simply doesn't present all the facts.
footloose |
12.10.05 - 12:07 am | #
Wow, never woulda guessed that.
A couple of the white women have spoken up and said that chimpy lied.
It's apparently not a popular sentiment in the room.
Really, it's bloody painful to listen to this stuff. Here are these mothers, who have given up their children, and they're spouting RNC talking points.
It's enough to make me vomit.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 12:07 am | #
Hellfire, I ain't even commented on this thread, and already the gutless little namestealer's starting in. Come on, man, you got a pair, use 'em. Otherwise, have the maturity to not act like a spoiled 13-year-old boy.
Matt T. |
12.10.05 - 12:07 am | #
OT, but hey Eli, what does your sister shoot? film or digital?
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 12:08 am | #
Woo-hoo, Sgt Pepper's is on, the worst movie ever made!
Thers |
Homepage |
12.10.05 - 12:08 am | #
I agree w/whoever posted at Huffington (forgive bad memory), but Woodward really is the "blonde" of so-called journamalism.
and he gets away with being so!!!
Sarah Deere
No doubt. The only difference between Bob Woodward and Kitty Kelley is that as far as we know Bob doesn't wear a dress.
Dr. Wu |
12.10.05 - 12:08 am | #
Otherwise, have the maturity to not act like a spoiled 13-year-old boy.
Matt T
i'm afraid that a spoiled 13 year-old boy would have more class than this gutless coward.
namestealers are psychotic.
smarty jones |
12.10.05 - 12:09 am | #
I'm still listening to these crazy women who still defend chimpy's war.
Thankfully some of the women are sane. It's still distressing to hear this.
four legs good
WTF are you guys watching? Whatever it is, I think I'm glad I'm not...
Dr. Wu |
12.10.05 - 12:09 am | #
RE: Copying and pasting to text-speaking software
Yeah, but it would be a lot easier if there were just a page for it. Being for the seeing-imparied, and all.
pardner |
12.10.05 - 12:09 am | #
OT, but hey Eli, what does your sister shoot? film or digital?
I'm pretty sure she still uses film.
Eli |
Homepage |
12.10.05 - 12:09 am | #
How are we supposed to evaluate the veracity of this information?
We're not, and that's the point. We're just supposed to take Booby's word for it.
He's coasted on his watergate fame for WAY too long.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 12:10 am | #
Plan of Attack, Woodward conducted 75 interviews, all of them anonymously sourced except for two -- Bush and Rumsfeld. Nowhere in the book is mention made of, say, Richard Clarke. How are we supposed to evaluate the veracity of this information?
******************
it isn't even information.
Olaf glad and big (elitist for |
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12.10.05 - 12:10 am | #
Here are these mothers, who have given up their children, and they're spouting RNC talking points.
Mmmm! Tasty Kool-Aid! Mmmmmm!
Dr. Wu |
12.10.05 - 12:10 am | #
WTF are you guys watching? Whatever it is, I think I'm glad I'm not...
Nightline is doing a special on mothers who have lost sons in Iraq.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 12:10 am | #
God, I hate these fucking trolls. They can all go eat a shit sundae, steaming fresh out of GW Bush's ass.
Grav |
12.10.05 - 12:11 am | #
Jeffraham--bet the Curly critter was happy to have his slave at home today. The pics are adorable
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere |
Homepage |
12.10.05 - 12:11 am | #
Now the women are attacking Cindy Sheehan.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 12:12 am | #
Smarty--would the kitties like some tuna?
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere |
Homepage |
12.10.05 - 12:12 am | #
I think the worst thing a reporter can do is become the story. That foggy,intimate, yet taboo line used to haunt real jounalists. Now, it financially attracts reporters like ants to candy.
Max Planck |
12.10.05 - 12:13 am | #
You're welcome Dr. Wu.
This is really hard to listen to.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 12:13 am | #
Of *course* Woodward doesn't present *all* the facts... I read his Supreme Court book *after* it came out Potter Stewart was one of his primary sources, and it was pretty damn obvious in how Stewart was treated compared to the rest of them.
nick carraway |
12.10.05 - 12:13 am | #
4Legs--did they go out of their way to find the most wingnutty mothers they could?
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere |
Homepage |
12.10.05 - 12:13 am | #
I'm in the SHIT-YOUR-NATION room!
Folf Witzer |
Homepage |
12.10.05 - 12:14 am | #
I'm watching the movie "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band," and it is making me wish I had access to powerful drugs.
Thers |
Homepage |
12.10.05 - 12:14 am | #
Trial transcripts reveal that Tookie Williams mocked the expiration gurgles of one of his victims he had whittled into kindling with his shotgun. Here, we have the real reason Scharzeneggar even pretends to a clemency feint: Those good ol'timey stories from a fellow death technologist. Is there a nascent cage match here?
James Jesus Rimbaud |
Homepage |
12.10.05 - 12:14 am | #
4Legs--did they go out of their way to find the most wingnutty mothers they could?
They're in Ohio.
Enough said, eh?
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 12:14 am | #
Being the corporate media, I'm sure it's a fair and even-handed treatment of the issue.
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHA
Sorry, just a little joke there.
Dr. Wu |
12.10.05 - 12:14 am | #
I'm watching the movie "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band," and it is making me wish I had access to powerful drugs.
Dude, are you insane?
Wasn't grading papers enough punishment for one day?
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 12:15 am | #
I'm watching the movie "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band," and it is making me wish I had access to powerful drugs.
Here are these mothers, who have given up their children, and they're spouting RNC talking points.
for some, the illusory nobility of the war may be the only thing that's keeping their grief from overwhelming them.
dan mcenroe |
12.10.05 - 12:15 am | #
I'm watching the movie "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band," and it is making me wish I had access to powerful drugs.
Now, come on. There's no need to waste a good magic carpet ride.
Matt T. |
12.10.05 - 12:15 am | #
Matt T. would eat a mile of GW's shit just to see where it came from.
smarty jones |
12.10.05 - 12:16 am | #
Boo hoo hoo Bob Woodward
Boo hoo hoo Merkel and Rice. To heal the rift they must have shared a dildo.
James Jesus Rimbaud |
Homepage |
12.10.05 - 12:16 am | #
I'm watching the movie "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band," and it is making me wish I had access to powerful drugs.
I would think it would make powerful drugs superfluous.
Eli |
Homepage |
12.10.05 - 12:16 am | #
Thers--I'm relieved to learn that I'm not the only one that drinks and grades.
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere |
Homepage |
12.10.05 - 12:16 am | #
One woman just said how pissed she was that 20 young men in Ohio died in one week and chimpy decided to take a 5 week vacation. Inexcusable, she said.
We are so heading for a civil war. Ack.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 12:16 am | #
for some, the illusory nobility of the war may be the only thing that's keeping their grief from overwhelming them.
dan mcenroe
Bingo. And don't think the GOP doesn't know it and exploit it.
Dr. Wu |
12.10.05 - 12:16 am | #
for some, the illusory nobility of the war may be the only thing that's keeping their grief from overwhelming them.
And I think there's a similar phenomenon on the troop side.
Eli |
Homepage |
12.10.05 - 12:16 am | #
Smarty--would the kitties like some tuna?
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere
Is there a version of this site that's text-only, like for the visually-impaired that use speaking software?
Well, it does have an RSS feed, which is usually stripped down to just text. But that's just for the blog itself. For the comments, I'm stumped. You're probably out of luck there.
By the by, would you be willing to offer some feedback on Web site design? I've been roped into redesigning my church site, and I don't know anybody who uses a screen reader.
Haven't started on it yet, but I did one a few years ago with accessibility in mind, though I don't know how much of my original code is still there.
I'd be ever so grateful for some feedback on your pet peeves, etc.
hamletta |
12.10.05 - 12:17 am | #
Smarty--it's people tuna. Albacore.
4Legs, don't worry, I saved some for Mr. Plushy, too.
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere |
Homepage |
12.10.05 - 12:17 am | #
Re: the Gold Star mothers everyone's talking about:
I'm inclined to give them a little slack.
The only thing worse than losing your beloved baby for just cause would be losing him for an outright, money-grubbing lie.
Sometimes, you gotta hold on to whatever makes your life bearable. They believe their sons/daughters died in a just cause because it's too horrible to contemplate the alternative.
lolly |
12.10.05 - 12:17 am | #
It was the very wingnutty homophobic paper that made me turn to the drink. Baaaaah. You know who that little fucker cited in his "research"? Fucking Bob Novak in the National Review. Bleah, barf, fuck fuck fuck.
Thers |
Homepage |
12.10.05 - 12:18 am | #
for some, the illusory nobility of the war may be the only thing that's keeping their grief from overwhelming them.
I still can't get over the comment of one woman who said she couldn't believe her son was killed because everyone was praying for him afterall.
Note to moms, prayer is not a replacement for good armour.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 12:18 am | #
RE: Sight-imparied etc.
The reason I ask is the first dozen pages are the blogoll/31 losers on the left. It's a lot to wade through, whether or not one copies@pastes.
pardner |
12.10.05 - 12:18 am | #
Matt T. would eat a mile of GW's shit just to see where it came from.
smarty jones
i knew i was going to get name stolen. pyscho coward strikes again!
smarty jones |
12.10.05 - 12:18 am | #
I cannot get it out of my head that Booby is a slow witted dufus. How not?
wtf? Has he written a single compelling piece of journalism in decades? Not that I've seen.
bigvic |
Homepage |
12.10.05 - 12:18 am | #
Woodward, and his vile defenders, are worthless whores.
The ducks will dine on their flesh.
Gary Frazier |
12.10.05 - 12:18 am | #
Note to moms, prayer is not a replacement for good armour.
four legs good
Welcome to the faith-based defense initiative.
Dr. Wu |
12.10.05 - 12:18 am | #
Sometimes, you gotta hold on to whatever makes your life bearable. They believe their sons/daughters died in a just cause because it's too horrible to contemplate the alternative.
On the other hand, if the levee that holds back reality ever *does* break, they are going to be pissed beyond imagination.
Eli |
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12.10.05 - 12:19 am | #
Trial transcripts reveal that Tookie Williams mocked the expiration gurgles of one of his victims he had whittled into kindling with his shotgun.
-james jesus rimbaud
***************
tookie was a bad motherfucker. i'm pretty sure that everyone is aware of that.
Olaf glad and big (elitist for |
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12.10.05 - 12:19 am | #
You know who that little fucker cited in his "research"? Fucking Bob Novak in the National Review. Bleah, barf, fuck fuck fuck.
I'm sorry, but I just spit Dr. Pepper all over my flat screen.
That's hilarious. And frightening. Okay, not so funny.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 12:19 am | #
Otherwise, have the maturity to not act like a spoiled 13-year-old boy.
Matt T
Why do you assume he's not? Most TrOoLz are at about that age, either biologically, or mantally.
Doozer, (truncated) |
12.10.05 - 12:19 am | #
Lolly--I'd be inclined to agree with your assessment. Granted, many of these women won't learn from the experience as to what's true and what's not, but it's irrelevant when you've lost a child.
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere |
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12.10.05 - 12:19 am | #
lolly,
Amen to that. There is nothing in this world more heartbreaking than a mother who has to bury her child. My cousin died 20 years ago in a car wreck, and my aunt's still a wreck over it. My uncle died of cancer about 10 years ago, and my poor Mommaw still thinks she "could've done something". I can't even imagine that kind of pain.
Matt T. |
12.10.05 - 12:19 am | #
They believe their sons/daughters died in a just cause because it's too horrible to contemplate the alternative.
lolly
focus |
12.10.05 - 12:20 am | #
Colonel Westhusing wondered if honor was possible in a war like Iraq before he blew his brains out. Westhusing - a military "ethicist" and devout Catholic - well, his vacuous belief in wartime "ethics" left him just a dissillusioned as those silver pieces that Judas got for betraying Judas.
They both went outside of the walls of the community and hung themselves.
James Jesus Rimbaud |
Homepage |
12.10.05 - 12:20 am | #
I'm in the SHIT-YOUR-NATION room!
Folf Witzer
scatology rating: 9
overall humor rating: 8
congratulations!
smarty jones |
12.10.05 - 12:20 am | #
They believe their sons/daughters died in a just cause because it's too horrible to contemplate the alternative.
lolly
focus
Somewhere Karl Rove is reading that and grinning from ear to ear.
Dr. Wu |
12.10.05 - 12:20 am | #
Smarty--you're a racehorse. Can't you just trample the psycho?
Oh, sorry, I just realized that would mean disturbing the kitties.
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere |
Homepage |
12.10.05 - 12:20 am | #
Can you imagine Dwight Eisenhower's, or FDR's, or JFK's dalliances being noddingly kept off of not only CNN's front desk, but also the Director of the FBI's top priority list?
Jeez, they not only scooped up young Ms. Lewinsky off of the street, but questioned her like the goddamned Republic depended on her weeping answers.
And goddammned Henry Hyde later admits that it was all a joke and payback for Nixon.
Sometimes I really do hate my country's representatives.
Max Planck |
12.10.05 - 12:20 am | #
I can't take this.
They're still talking about how their kids died for a "higher purpose."
Oh, fuck. One just said her son's "glory would be great."
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 12:21 am | #
I forgot that George Burns sings with 11 year old girls in this. Hooray!
Thers |
Homepage |
12.10.05 - 12:21 am | #
Is that Gordo's picture on the right hand column of the blog? Good God, what is Dad trying to do to us?!
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere |
Homepage |
12.10.05 - 12:21 am | #
Doozer,
I do hope guys like this weasel are teenagers. It worries me to no end to think an actual grown-up who can buy guns and alcohol and drive a car an' everything thinks that is the hieght of wit and cutting political debate. I mean, I know schools are in troubled state, but come on, that's just a frightening stroke to ponder.
Matt T. |
12.10.05 - 12:22 am | #
Oh, fuck. One just said her son's "glory would be great."
four legs good
I hope she doesn't start talking about the 72 virgins, or they'll take her off to Gitmo.
Dr. Wu |
12.10.05 - 12:22 am | #
Ohio is a fucked up place.
That's all I'm saying.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 12:22 am | #
Night, Moonbats
DWD - Listener in the Snow |
Homepage |
12.10.05 - 12:22 am | #
I forgot that George Burns sings with 11 year old girls in this. Hooray!
I have blotted that movie from my memory.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 12:22 am | #
Nightline is heartbreaking.
If these people knew the truth their souls would die.
Jonny Quest |
12.10.05 - 12:22 am | #
Doozer--not only that, most 13 year olds are toilet trained. The trolls, not so much.
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere |
Homepage |
12.10.05 - 12:23 am | #
Nightline is heartbreaking.
I feel so bad for these women and yet I wish I could fucking slap them silly.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 12:23 am | #
That's interesting about Tookie Williams mocking the dying... remember W's take on his fellow 'born aginner' Karla Faye? Shocked even a callow twit like Tucker Carlson, so it did...
nick carraway |
12.10.05 - 12:24 am | #
I hope she doesn't start talking about the 72 virgins, or they'll take her off to Gitmo.
She lives in Ohio, which is the next best thing (IMHO).
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 12:24 am | #
Somewhere Karl Rove is reading that and grinning from ear to ear.
Dr. Wu
he's not at a cemetary, and the memory of fleeting pride fades, but not the loss of the heart of your your soul-
focus |
12.10.05 - 12:24 am | #
Speaking of the Gold Star mothers, the excellent country singing quartet The Statler Brothers have an awesome-with-a-capital-A song along that lines. It's called "More Than A Name On A Wall". Sometimes, when the truth needs to be told, close harmonies are the best way to do it.
Matt T. |
12.10.05 - 12:24 am | #
night everybody.
don't mind the name stealing doofus.
smarty jones |
12.10.05 - 12:25 am | #
Is that Gordo's picture on the right hand column of the blog? Good God, what is Dad trying to do to us?!
It looks like that fucking loser from the Nokia commercial.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 12:25 am | #
Blind faith in authority is a scary thing. It's not that these folks have looked at the evidence and decided that the Bush administration isn't incompetent, craven and corrupt--it's that they'd never even consider the possibility.
Dr. Wu |
12.10.05 - 12:25 am | #
The reason I ask is the first dozen pages are the blogoll/31 losers on the left. It's a lot to wade through, whether or not one copies@pastes.
Now, would a "skip navigation" link work with that? Because that's easy to do.
hamletta |
12.10.05 - 12:25 am | #
Matt T--just as a curiosity, did you or your bro play on that piece?
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere |
Homepage |
12.10.05 - 12:25 am | #
Smarty Jones - Matt T. is being namestolen. I suspect it is the craven troll that has raised your ire.
Fourlegsgood - Ohio is not particularly wingnutty. Except maybe Cincinnati, home of Fifth Third Bank, chili on spaghetti, and too many Tafts.
Ahianne, hillbilly |
12.10.05 - 12:25 am | #
Smarty Jones - Matt T. is being namestolen. I suspect it is the craven troll that has raised your ire.
Fourlegsgood - Ohio is not particularly wingnutty. Except maybe Cincinnati, home of Fifth Third Bank, chili on spaghetti, and too many Tafts.
Ahianne, hillbilly |
12.10.05 - 12:25 am | #
Sallyh: Jeffraham--bet the Curly critter was happy to have his slave at home today. The pics are adorable
Thanks. He's not been more than a few feet away from me 95% of the day. Right now, he's back on the bed, napping on my leg pillow.
.
Jeffraham Prestonian |
Homepage |
12.10.05 - 12:26 am | #
Oh great.
Baba Wawa is doing a special called..
"Heaven.
WHere is it and how do we get there?"
I fucking kid you not.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 12:26 am | #
"Heaven.
WHere is it and how do we get there?"
I fucking kid you not.
four legs good
Here...LET ME HELP
Dr. Wu |
12.10.05 - 12:26 am | #
Fourlegsgood - Ohio is not particularly wingnutty. Except maybe Cincinnati, home of Fifth Third Bank, chili on spaghetti, and too many Tafts.
I'll take your word for it.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 12:26 am | #
Ahianne, hillbilly
the name stealer got us both. my first time!
smarty jones |
12.10.05 - 12:27 am | #
"Heaven. Where is it and how do we get there."
Baba wawa will tell us next teusday.
I'm like a kid waiting for xmas.
Jonny Quest |
12.10.05 - 12:27 am | #
4Legs--sounds as if it's time for Baba Wawa to retire.
That's mysticism, not journalism.
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere |
Homepage |
12.10.05 - 12:27 am | #
Oh great.
Baba Wawa is doing a special called..
"Heaven.
WHere is it and how do we get there?"
I fucking kid you not.
four legs good
It's good to be in Alaska, local PBS is doing an old Great Performances, Eric Clapton and Cream at Albert Hall.
Much better than Baba Wawa.
Barry from Alaska |
12.10.05 - 12:28 am | #
the name stealer got us both. my first time!
I remember my first name stealer like it was yesterday....
hamletta |
12.10.05 - 12:28 am | #
Jeffraham--do you have to return to the slave labor camp tomorrow?
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere |
Homepage |
12.10.05 - 12:28 am | #
the name stealer got us both. my first time!
smarty jones
Congrats!
My first namestealer informed the thread that I was late for my shift at White Castle. Which wasn't far off from my early 20s lifestyle...
Catholic Jackson |
12.10.05 - 12:28 am | #
Heaven's just a sin away... at least, that's what I heard on the radio...
nick carraway |
12.10.05 - 12:28 am | #
That's mysticism, not journalism.
It's insanity is what it is.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 12:29 am | #
My first namestealer was the Poop Troll. Fortunately everyone can spot him ten miles away.
Buzz Bomb |
12.10.05 - 12:29 am | #
Jeffraham--I'll have to download some of the pics later of the kitties helping us put lights on the tree. They were SO helpful...
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere |
Homepage |
12.10.05 - 12:29 am | #
White Castle, mmmmmmm.....
Barry from Alaska |
12.10.05 - 12:29 am | #
the name stealer got us both. my first time!
smarty jones
Congrats!
My first namestealer informed the thread that I was late for my shift at White Castle. Which wasn't far off from my early 20s lifestyle...
Catholic Jackson
Haloscan just caused me to namesteal myself. D'oh! .
Jay C. |
12.10.05 - 12:29 am | #
Okay, now the women are saying that we should just crush the iraqis.
Can you imagine Dwight Eisenhower's, or FDR's, or JFK's dalliances being noddingly kept off of not only CNN's front desk, but also the Director of the FBI's top priority list?
Nope. Then we had a FREE PRESS. And they had to fight agianst their masters. It's all a corporate mess these days.
I dont't think there is much honor among journalists these days. Sy Hersh may be the exception to the rule. I dare someone prove me wrong.
bigvic |
Homepage |
12.10.05 - 12:30 am | #
It is unseemly to mark the speech impediment of a woman who has been dead for a number of years.
James Jesus Rimbaud |
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12.10.05 - 12:30 am | #
I've never had my name stolen. It's either because I rarely comment or the trolls are afraid of Race Bannon.
Jonny Quest |
12.10.05 - 12:30 am | #
Jeffraham--I'll have to download some of the pics later of the kitties helping us put lights on the tree. They were SO helpful...
Kitties enjoy being helpful.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 12:30 am | #
Buzz Bomb--well, we can certainly smell him.
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere |
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12.10.05 - 12:31 am | #
It's either because I rarely comment or the trolls are afraid of Race Bannon.
I think it's fear of Haji.
He's got a mean bite.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 12:31 am | #
Jonny Q--what WAS the deal between Race and Dr. Quest, anyway?
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere |
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12.10.05 - 12:31 am | #
No, it's a guy named rob port.
sallyh |
12.10.05 - 12:32 am | #
Bush administration isn't incompetent, craven and corrupt--it's that they'd never even consider the possibility.
Dr. Wu
they, are a variable.
focus |
12.10.05 - 12:32 am | #
4Legs--I think you're thinking of Bandit.
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere |
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12.10.05 - 12:32 am | #
What happened to the Beethoven troll, anyway? I miss the daily music history lesson. I hope it hasn't gone deaf or something.
Dr. Wu |
12.10.05 - 12:32 am | #
Jonny Q--what WAS the deal between Race and Dr. Quest, anyway?
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere
All explained in an episode of "Harvey Birdman."
Jay C. |
12.10.05 - 12:32 am | #
Back to the original topic- I'm still annoyed at the WAPO for keeping Booby on the payroll.
It's false advertising.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 12:32 am | #
Sallyh,
What piece?
And since the cat's basically out of the bag, what gives, man? I tool around here for a year, never name-stolen. Not once. Like, third or fourth night back, boom. Figure that out.
Matt T. |
12.10.05 - 12:32 am | #
Smarty, Matt T--hey, I get to join you in the namestealers' circle. My night is complete.
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere |
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12.10.05 - 12:32 am | #
If the American press conservative, that's because America is conservative. It's not like the press descends unbidden from another planet, after all. The press really is Pravda: it serves the social function to preserve the society that institutes it. Business news in the US, for one example, gives scant attention to labor relations, emphasizing instead reports on company profits, wealth and production metrics of that nature.
Ali Baba |
12.10.05 - 12:33 am | #
Matt--the one you listed, 'More Than a Name on the Wall.'
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere |
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12.10.05 - 12:33 am | #
China and US ganged up to block progress at UN Environment summit in Montreal just as Chinese were shooting enviromental protestors in China.
P O'Neill |
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12.10.05 - 12:33 am | #
you people are making me hungry, and it's too late and too cold to slog down to the white castle on 21st...
dan mcenroe |
12.10.05 - 12:33 am | #
4Legs--I think you're thinking of Bandit.
No, Haji was a biter too.
He was fond of tearing throats out- of course they edited that out of the cartoons.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 12:33 am | #
The woman suffer from this stessor: They offered up their sons to the Bush War machine. It's still a blood ritual even if they didn't read the fine print disclosures. They will suffer not only earthy perdition, but eternal as well. They have made a God out of the state and offered human sacrifice. They weep the tears of victims even as they are transgessors.
James Jesus Rimbaud |
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12.10.05 - 12:33 am | #
If the American press conservative, that's because America is conservative.
I'd say it's because the shareholders and management of the media companies are conservative. I don't think one can draw any conclusions about the country as a whole.
Dr. Wu |
12.10.05 - 12:34 am | #
Jay--I'm guessing Race was the top.
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere |
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12.10.05 - 12:34 am | #
you people are making me hungry, and it's too late and too cold to slog down to the white castle on 21st...
I don't know how anyone could eat at white castle.
That place is foul.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 12:34 am | #
Oh, hell. It sure did. I should know by now that if a comment has me thinking "WTF? X sez Y??" we probably have a slimy little namestealer underfoot.
Ahianne, hillbilly |
12.10.05 - 12:34 am | #
No, it's a guy named rob port.
You'd think he wouldn't be a righty. Maybe he's overcompensating?
Eli |
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12.10.05 - 12:34 am | #
Jonny Q--what WAS the deal between Race and Dr. Quest, anyway?
Matt + Smarty--it's the end of the semester and the kids are out of school. We get a lot of nonsense once they're done flunking yet another term.
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere |
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12.10.05 - 12:35 am | #
Thers -- there are certain films, like the one you're watching, and Tron, and pretty much the entire output of wossname what did the Red Shoe Diaries, that are worthless when straight but suddenly become Oscar-quality films after about a joint or two of standard Colombian (or three hits of good hash). Which leads me to think that whoever made those things must have been themselves wasted much of the time.
When I saw Modo recently she talked about when she was a WH correspondent and how she pissed someone off and they yanked her "access."
She said it was actually easier to be a reporter without it.
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Real reporters aren't in it for the starfucking, either actual or metaphorical. They ignore the big honchos unless they want to embarrass 'em with some nasty information. Instead, they focus on the grunt workers: Cleaning staff, maintenance workers, folks like that. Maybe some of the lower-echelon staffers. Those are the folks who know where the bodies are buried, and they often have a score or two to settle with their bosses.
Phoenix Woman |
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12.10.05 - 12:35 am | #
don't know how anyone could eat at white castle.
It helps to be drunk.
SWR |
12.10.05 - 12:35 am | #
That's enough for tonight. Adios.
Dr. Wu |
12.10.05 - 12:35 am | #
4 legs - white castle is meat that you don't need to chew. what could be better?
dan mcenroe |
12.10.05 - 12:35 am | #
Sallyh,
Lord, no. I can't exactly recall when it came out, but I think it was the Statlers' last sizable hit. I'm thinking late '80s, early '90s. I was still in junior high.
Matt T. |
12.10.05 - 12:35 am | #
(Hugging Bandit fiercely)
Someone alert Santorum.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 12:36 am | #
4Legs--I think you have to have been born in Chicago to appreciate the White Castle experience. You need to develop an immunity to the toxins in them from an early age.
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere |
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12.10.05 - 12:36 am | #
4 legs - white castle is meat that you don't need to chew. what could be better?
Ewwwwwww.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 12:36 am | #
4Legs--I think you have to have been born in Chicago to appreciate the White Castle experience. You need to develop an immunity to the toxins in them from an early age.
When I first moved to NY I went to try this "white castle" I'd heard so much about.
I about barfed.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 12:37 am | #
Jay C--great, now I need to go rent the Harvey Birdman DVDs, on a weekend when I have a ton of stuff to finish. Thanks a lot, dude.
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere |
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12.10.05 - 12:38 am | #
What about Bob Woodward's strange, slow way of speaking? Some times on TV he seems like he is drugged, in pain or under the influence of MS/Parkinson's or some neurological condidtion.
Anyone have any answers or gossip? Is he on borrowed time, or just not thinking straight?
i do think Woodward felt compelled to say "I was fisrt on the list" of journalists to be leaked Valerie Plame's real job, beating out the NYTimes. I wonder if Judy Miller ever tried to seduce Bob back in the day.....
SuzzieQ, |
12.10.05 - 12:38 am | #
You'd think he wouldn't be a righty.
he looks smug enough.
i don't think there's a force on this earth that could entice me to read the musings of a Republican, Atheist, Investigator.
OK, maybe some free white castles.
dan mcenroe |
12.10.05 - 12:38 am | #
I ate a couple of sliders at White Castle once. Once was enough.
Ahianne, hillbilly |
12.10.05 - 12:38 am | #
don't know how anyone could eat at white castle.
Strom discovered that gerbils are attracted to white castle suppositories.
-Liddy Dole
bebe rebozo |
12.10.05 - 12:38 am | #
Okay, crazy woman saying that her son died as a hero and she will NOT tolerate hearing someone say different.
We need to outlaw kool-aid.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 12:38 am | #
4Legs--she's not getting it. No one is saying her son isn't a hero.
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere |
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12.10.05 - 12:39 am | #
What about Bob Woodward's strange, slow way of speaking?
He's always talked like that.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 12:39 am | #
If the American press is conservative, that's because America is conservative.
If the American press is conservative, that's the absolute worst thing that could possibly happen to the American press.
I think, anyways.
Respect mah conservative authoritah!
Max Planck |
12.10.05 - 12:40 am | #
Matt T--you playing out much?
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere |
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12.10.05 - 12:40 am | #
They weep the tears of victims even as they are transgessors.
I take it you've never known anybody who's buried a child. Because that's the only way you could say something so cold.
hamletta |
12.10.05 - 12:40 am | #
Do they still call them "Transfer Tubes"?
Jonny Quest |
12.10.05 - 12:41 am | #
Wow, almost hurricane-strength winds out here on the rocky NE coast today.
Our bird feeder is scattered in pieces.
What will the squirrels eat now?
That's to ponder for tomorrow.
Jay C. |
12.10.05 - 12:41 am | #
laptop battery's fading. that's my cue to go to bed. night all, sleep well.
dan mcenroe |
12.10.05 - 12:42 am | #
I ate a couple of sliders at White Castle once. Once was enough.
Ahianne, hillbilly
Is that cause hillbilly's are partial to Krystal burgers?
Barry from Alaska |
12.10.05 - 12:42 am | #
4Legs--she's not getting it. No one is saying her son isn't a hero.
She's saying that anyone that disses the war or chimpy is dissing her son.
She had a really bad haircut too.
But I digress.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 12:42 am | #
Goodnight, moonbats. Don't let the trolls bite.
Ahianne, hillbilly |
12.10.05 - 12:42 am | #
Good night, Madam Ahianne.
Max Planck |
12.10.05 - 12:44 am | #
It's all too sad for words.
Good night people.
Jonny Quest |
12.10.05 - 12:44 am | #
It worries me to no end to think an actual grown-up who can buy guns and alcohol and drive a car an' everything thinks that is the hieght of wit and cutting political debate.
...
Matt T
I guess you didn't see that "Drunks with guns" picture that was going around the internets post-hurricane Rita, eh?
Doozer, (truncated) |
12.10.05 - 12:45 am | #
Good night to you, Jonny Quest.
Max Planck |
12.10.05 - 12:46 am | #
White Castle, mmmmmmm.....
Gonna have 4 of em with extra mustard and crash.
On that happy note, buh bye!
bigvic |
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12.10.05 - 12:46 am | #
Sallyh: Jeffraham--do you have to return to the slave labor camp tomorrow?
Not until Sunday, 11:30 a.m., blessedly. No visit from ladyfriend tonight (she has to get up @ 3:00a to take her parents to the airport), and tomorrow night's up in the air.
.
Jeffraham Prestonian |
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12.10.05 - 12:46 am | #
Goodnight, moonbats. Don't let the trolls bite.
Ahianne, hillbilly
They can bite my ass.
Buzz Bomb |
12.10.05 - 12:47 am | #
I'm thinking about opening a White Castle Franchise.
Eli |
12.10.05 - 12:47 am | #
Sleep well, bigvic.
Max Planck |
12.10.05 - 12:47 am | #
In DC we had Little Taverns. Square burgers with onions cooked in. Bagfulloburgers after the bar mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
bill |
12.10.05 - 12:48 am | #
"I take it you've never known anybody
who has buried a child"
You take it wrong. I've also had the pleasure of playing poker with two Iraq War Pt. Deux veterans who enthralled me with tales of collateral damage. You become the monster so the monster will not break you. Lost souls who traded in their humanity for patrtiotism.
James Jesus Rimbaud |
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12.10.05 - 12:49 am | #
I'm thinking about opening a White Castle Franchise.
Okay. The food is pretty sucky in Pittsburgh already.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 12:49 am | #
I take it you've never known anybody who's buried a child. Because that's the only way you could say something so cold.
hamletta
i have actually heard the sound of a mother's heart break (delivered one causation myself) because of such. i would wish it upon absolutely no one.
focus |
12.10.05 - 12:50 am | #
If the American press is conservative, that's because America is conservative.
The American Press is whatever it's paid to be. When the poor, working and middle classes can afford to pay for it, we'll get a press that reflects us.
Doozer, (truncated) |
12.10.05 - 12:50 am | #
In DC we had Little Taverns. Square burgers with onions cooked in. Bagfulloburgers after the bar mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Hand-patted by surly old German ladies!
hamletta |
12.10.05 - 12:51 am | #
I feel bad for these women- but the expressions of religiosity were just appalling.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 12:51 am | #
We don't even have White Castle in Calif. Got In-N-Out Burger, though.
Yeah, gotta love that name.
Buzz Bomb |
12.10.05 - 12:51 am | #
"I take it you've never known anybody
who has buried a child"
I had the misfortune of meeting the parents of a friend who died at the age of 27.
They were wingnut Christians and meeting them made it perfectly clear why he became a drunk who decided to walk in front of a car one night.
His girlfriend couldn't come to the funeral because they weren't married and his parents wouldn't allow it.
SWR |
12.10.05 - 12:52 am | #
Gonna have 4 of em with extra mustard and crash.
On that happy note, buh bye!
bigvic
Good nite bigvic.
btw, 4 is just an appetizer.
Barry from Alaska |
12.10.05 - 12:52 am | #
Wow... via Josh:
Bush-administration officials privately threatened organizers of the U.N. Climate Change Conference, telling them that any chance there might’ve been for the United States to sign on to the Kyoto global-warming protocol would be scuttled if they allowed Bill Clinton to speak at the gathering today in Montreal, according to a source involved with the negotiations who spoke to New York Magazine on condition of anonymity.
The fucking NERVE of these people. Will they never get over the Clenis?
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 12:53 am | #
I take it you've never known anybody who's buried a child.
That's just too
hard to talk about here.
Max Planck |
12.10.05 - 12:53 am | #
"White Hassle" by Adrenaline OD is probably the best song in any genre ever recorded by human beings ever.
Thers |
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12.10.05 - 12:53 am | #
Sallyh,
Nah. Heart's not in it these days.
Matt T. |
12.10.05 - 12:53 am | #
White Castles...one of the very few things I miss about the Great White North.
Doozer, (truncated) |
12.10.05 - 12:54 am | #
Hi, all.
What's it like posting here this late? I'm an early bird...
White Castles...one of the very few things I miss about the Great White North.
Can't you buy them in supermarkets now?
SWR |
12.10.05 - 12:55 am | #
Uh-huh...
From Capitol Hill Blue
The Rant
Bush on the Constitution: 'It's just a goddamned piece of paper'
By DOUG THOMPSON
Dec 9, 2005, 07:53
Last month, Republican Congressional leaders filed into the Oval Office to meet with President George W. Bush and talk about renewing the controversial USA Patriot Act.
Several provisions of the act, passed in the shell shocked period immediately following the 9/11 terrorist attacks, caused enough anger that liberal groups like the American Civil Liberties Union had joined forces with prominent conservatives like Phyllis Schlafly and Bob Barr to oppose renewal.
GOP leaders told Bush that his hardcore push to renew the more onerous provisions of the act could further alienate conservatives still mad at the President from his botched attempt to nominate White House Counsel Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court.
“I don’t give a goddamn,” Bush retorted. “I’m the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way.”
“Mr. President,” one aide in the meeting said. “There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution.”
“Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,” Bush screamed back. “It’s just a goddamned piece of paper!”
I’ve talked to three people present for the meeting that day and they all confirm that the President of the United States called the Constitution “a goddamned piece of paper.”
And, to the Bush Administration, the Constitution of the United States is little more than toilet paper stained from all the shit that this group of power-mad despots have dumped on the freedoms that “goddamned piece of paper” used to guarantee.
Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, while still White House counsel, wrote that the “Constitution is an outdated document.”
Put aside, for a moment, political affiliation or personal beliefs. It doesn’t matter if you are a Democrat, Republican or Independent. It doesn’t matter if you support the invasion or Iraq or not. Despite our differences, the Constitution has stood for two centuries as the defining document of our government, the final source to determine – in the end – if something is legal or right.
Every federal official – including the President – who takes an oath of office swears to “uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States."
Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia says he cringes when someone calls the Constitution a “living document.”
“"Oh, how I hate the phrase we have—a 'living document,’” Scalia says. “We now have a Constitution that means whatever we want it to mean. The Constitution is not a living organism, for Pete's sake.”
Anti-Fascist |
12.10.05 - 12:56 am | #
Can't you buy them in supermarkets now?
SWR
Is that really the same thing?
bill |
12.10.05 - 12:56 am | #
"White Hassle" by Adrenaline OD is probably the best song in any genre ever recorded by human beings ever.
Thers
Better than The Bertha Butt Boogie?
Doozer, (truncated) |
12.10.05 - 12:56 am | #
Capitol Hill Blue is worthless as a reliable source of fact.
Max Planck |
12.10.05 - 12:57 am | #
Uh-huh...
From Capitol Hill Blue
You know the old saying about how if it sound's too good to be true, it probably is? I get that feeling about CHB.
Doozer, (truncated) |
12.10.05 - 12:58 am | #
Anti-Fascist:
Don't. Buy. It.
Sounds like a bad made-for-TV script...
Zap Rowsdower, young'n |
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12.10.05 - 12:59 am | #
Bob Woodward is a National Treasure. If it wasn't for Bob Woodward we would have seen tens of thousands more dead in Vietnam.
john |
12.10.05 - 1:00 am | #
Bob Woodward is a National Treasure.
If it wasn't for Bob Woodward we would have seen tens of thousands more dead in Vietnam.
Think of it this way.
In the 60s, Jefferson Airplane was writing good music. In the 80s, they were turning out stuff like "We Built this City on Rock and Roll".
Woodward has entered his "We Built this City" phase.
SWR |
12.10.05 - 1:01 am | #
Woodward has entered his "We Built this City" phase.
Under the new tax bill, those making 50k or less would get 11 dollars of relief. Is that good or bad?
jgh |
12.10.05 - 1:03 am | #
"White Hassle" by Adrenaline OD is probably the best song in any genre ever recorded by human beings ever.
Being hopelessly unhip, I don't know what the hell you're talking about.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 1:03 am | #
Can't you buy them in supermarkets now?
SWR
Yeah, and if you steam 'em they're not totally sucky. They used to be sold frozen by some company that bought 'em from White castle, in the regular boxes. I guess WC decided if there was money in it, they'd get in on that themselves, and took it over. Now they come in a box of 6, instead of 10, and in plastic bags, instead of wax paper, and they...just don't taste right. My feeling is it was the cardboard and wax paper that did it. Or maybe it's a numerological thing, and 10 is White Castle's prime number, oor something...
Doozer, (truncated) |
12.10.05 - 1:03 am | #
Bob Woodward is a National Treasure.
Hello? Is this thing on???
Yeah...obstructing justice is so damn honorable. Just give him the Judy Miller award for achievement in the field of excellence.
Zap Rowsdower, young'n |
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12.10.05 - 1:04 am | #
Woodward has entered his "We Built this City" phase.
"Wired" was his White Rabbit?
Doozer, (truncated) |
12.10.05 - 1:05 am | #
In the 60s, Jefferson Airplane was writing good music. In the 80s, they were turning out stuff like "We Built this City on Rock and Roll".
Woodward has entered his "We Built this City" phase.
SWR
Jefferson Airplane/Starship were also seriously milking past glories churning out their 80s crap, and still being given regular blow jobs in the San Francisco music press by dutiful local music journos. Woodward is also coasting on past glories, and is still being orally serviced by his employer, the Post.
Buzz Bomb |
12.10.05 - 1:05 am | #
jgh--only certain classes of individuals getting the $11, which won't even fill my Corolla.
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere |
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12.10.05 - 1:05 am | #
SWR: strangely fitting, that.
nick carraway |
12.10.05 - 1:06 am | #
Matt T--little bro feels the same way. Course, he's in his second year of med school, which is nothing if not exhausting and mind numbing.
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere |
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12.10.05 - 1:07 am | #
Being hopelessly unhip, I don't know what the hell you're talking about.
I'm not hip either. It's an obscure and now quite old song by an obscure but awesome New Jersey punk band. It details what it's like to be coming home sort of drunk late at night and wanting something to eat but nothing is open and you only have like 85 cents, so you go to White Castle and experience the weirdness that is late night White Castle. It's like an opera in a minute and thirty seconds, but much better, because it's not actually an opera.
Thers |
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12.10.05 - 1:07 am | #
Now they come in a box of 6, instead of 10, and in plastic bags, instead of wax paper, and they...just don't taste right.
I'm not hip either. It's an obscure and now quite old song by an obscure but awesome New Jersey punk band.
What are the odds on they're having a myspace page?
SWR |
12.10.05 - 1:09 am | #
It details what it's like to be coming home sort of drunk late at night and wanting something to eat but nothing is open and you only have like 85 cents, so you go to White Castle and experience the weirdness that is late night White Castle. It's like an opera in a minute and thirty seconds, but much better, because it's not actually an opera.
Okay. I'll take your word for it.
Hey, do your students know anything about your politics? Is it possible the little wingnut wrote that to freak you out?
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 1:09 am | #
I still can't get over that the bushies were trying to keep Clinton from speaking.
I think it's time for Clinton to start publicly humiliating chimpy in public.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 1:10 am | #
I am not happy about Painkiller Jane.
There does not appear to be any creatures or eatage.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 1:11 am | #
Okay, where did everyone go?
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 1:12 am | #
Okay, try this for size...
US Congressman Henry Hyde...
"There are things in the Constitution that have been overtaken by events and by time. Declaration of War is one of them. There are things no longer relevant to a modern society."
Anti-Fascist |
12.10.05 - 1:12 am | #
"There are things in the Constitution that have been overtaken by events and by time. Declaration of War is one of them. There are things no longer relevant to a modern society."
Yeah. Fat-fuck congressmen with shit-for-brains are no longer relevant to a modern society.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 1:13 am | #
It's like an opera in a minute and thirty seconds, but much better, because it's not actually an opera.
Thers
There is something inherently right about anything that is not really an opera...
Doozer, (truncated) |
12.10.05 - 1:13 am | #
Speaking of punk rawk (well, new wave punk),
Has anyone heard the new Gang of Four album? They've re-recorded a lot of their old stuff.
I heard "At Home, He's a Tourist" the other day, and was pissed; cause I thought that it was just another shitty cover.
I think that it was pretty clever idea that the GOF would do that; but they can't sound like they use'ta.
(still like "I Love A Man In Uniform")
Zap Rowsdower, young'n |
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12.10.05 - 1:14 am | #
Hey, do your students know anything about your politics?
No, I'm relentlessly non-political in the classroom. Mostly to keep my blood pressure in check.
That's actually gotten harder, mostly because of the relentless assault on common sense over the past several years. Evolution is probably the best example. I keep getting students who want to argue obviously insane bullshit, but saying "evolution is right, Eve never rode a dinosaur" has become a very political thing to say. Stating the facts has in many ways become dangerously political in the classroom.
It's a fucked-up state of affairs and it's made it harder to do my main job, which is to help them write well enough so they don't look like total junkies when they put together a job letter.
Thers |
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12.10.05 - 1:14 am | #
Under the new tax bill, those making 50k or less would get 11 dollars of relief.
Is that good or bad?
jgh
good! white castles all around- but after you open your property tax bill
focus |
12.10.05 - 1:15 am | #
It's a fucked-up state of affairs and it's made it harder to do my main job, which is to help them write well enough so they don't look like total junkies when they put together a job letter.
Good luck. I was rather appalled at some of the stuff that crossed my desk during our last search. Including one young punk who trumpeted his connections to chimpy on his resume.
My new minion can actually write a decent letter.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 1:16 am | #
I'm still here, flg -- just now watching the Nightline epi; it comes on at an odd time here in Gnashvegas.
.
Jeffraham Prestonian |
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12.10.05 - 1:17 am | #
good! white castles all around- but after you open your property tax bill
You can have mine. Ick.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 1:17 am | #
I'm still here, flg -- just now watching the Nightline epi; it comes on at an odd time here in Gnashvegas.
I suggest you drink while you watch it.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 1:18 am | #
4Legs--lack of creatures and eatage does not make me happy.
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere |
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12.10.05 - 1:18 am | #
4Legs--lack of creatures and eatage does not make me happy.
Yeah. What the fuck were they thinking?
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 1:18 am | #
Regarding Nightline...
I'm glad the sons of all those occupation-supporting mothers were killed. I have no empathy, sympathy, or respect for them.
If they truly think their precious little offspring died for a noble cause, why don't they enlist and help finish the "mission" for them?
Tomorrow, my bit of normalcy: going to watch my g'dtr try to get her second belt in Tai Kwon Do. Going out to dinner tomorrow w/son, dtr in law (such a cold term for such a lovely young woman) and g'kids re: son's new (well-paying!) job, and Sunday to go get the Christmas tree & take annual tour of this place jam-packed w/more ornaments that one would imagine possible.
Escapism, for a while. It will be nice that way.
Sarah Deere |
12.10.05 - 1:20 am | #
four legs good: I suggest you drink while you watch it.
Sage advice -- in fact, I did crack the evening's first beer when it came on. I remembered that I won't want to drink tomorrow night unless I start really, really early (like 5-6 p.m.), since I have to get up for work Sunday.
Of course, my attention's not been solidly on the TV, too... I did catch the "5 weeks vacation" comment just now, though, and the smattering of applause that was shortened in editing.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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12.10.05 - 1:21 am | #
I'm glad the sons of all those occupation-supporting mothers were killed. I have no empathy, sympathy, or respect for them.
That's a little harsh.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 1:21 am | #
Anti-Fascist
Never - EVER - be glad anyone's child is killed in war, or for any other reason, though perhaps especially war. And a war like this one - as so many of them are - perhaps ALL of them - based on lies and greed.
I don't even want wingnuts kids killed in this misbegotten clusterfuck of chimpy's.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 1:23 am | #
4Legs--lack of creatures and eatage does not make me happy.
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere
I was trying to explain Sci-Fi liveblogging, and "eatage" and "Hot Science Babe" and all like that there to my older sis on the phone the other day. When I finished, she asked me "what language was that?"...
Doozer, (truncated) |
12.10.05 - 1:23 am | #
Is there a version of this site that's text-only, like for the visually-impaired that use speaking software?
If you have a Mac, you can create a simple automator action script that
- Selects the frontmost Safari window
- Grabs the text from the web page
- Speaks the text
Use of the script would require some sight however as you'd need to be able to click the comments link. Once there, the script speaks the text (including the date and commenter after each post).
An Applescript could be a more sophisticated solution as you could perform some filtering (to eliminate dates for example)
Devil's advocate |
12.10.05 - 1:23 am | #
Life is a rock and the radio rolled me....
ah, a nice night. Good night bats
lb0313 |
12.10.05 - 1:24 am | #
JP, I'm watching Nightline, too. Heartwrenching. Some of these women are our age. I've got a goddaughter their sons' age, the daughter of my best friend.
My stepbrother was about that age when he died, though not in a war.
God bless all those women, and all the mothers everywhere.
hamletta |
12.10.05 - 1:24 am | #
I say kill 'em all, let God sort 'em out.
It's not my fault that they're so damn dumb. The facts are there to see, but they want to be blind.
Of course, every empire needs its willing subjects. Luckily, there are plenty of stupid serfs to be found in the good ol' USofA.
Anti-Fascist |
12.10.05 - 1:26 am | #
I don't even want wingnuts kids killed in this misbegotten clusterfuck of chimpy's.
four legs good
I'm glad the sons of all those occupation-supporting mothers were killed. I have no empathy, sympathy, or respect for them.
If they truly think their precious little offspring died for a noble cause, why don't they enlist and help finish the "mission" for them?
Stupid goddamn sheep.
Anti-Fascist
Dear self-righteous asshole:
Go piss and moan about poor youth that were trying to find a way to pay for college somewhere else; you selfish clod.
Zap Rowsdower, young'n |
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12.10.05 - 1:27 am | #
I don't even want wingnuts kids killed in this misbegotten clusterfuck of chimpy's.
four legs good
I do.
Anti-Fascist
I smell Cheetos...
Doozer, (truncated) |
12.10.05 - 1:27 am | #
I was trying to explain Sci-Fi liveblogging, and "eatage" and "Hot Science Babe" and all like that there to my older sis on the phone the other day. When I finished, she asked me "what language was that?"...
I am rather proud of myself for coining the term "eatage".... I was explaining sci-fi blogging to a young lady in my office and I told her all about Hammerhead Terror... by the time I finished we were both laughing so hard we were crying.
she especially enjoyed my descripion of how the hammerhead ate the mad scientist's arm off right when he was trying to mate him to the hot science babe.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 1:27 am | #
Ignore namestealing children, and go look at Curly, instead.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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12.10.05 - 1:28 am | #
When I finished, she asked me "what language was that?"...
It's the language of Atriots!!!!
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 1:28 am | #
Ignore namestealing children, and go look at Curly, instead.
Awwww, Curly is making muffins.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 1:29 am | #
I smell Cheetos...
Doozer, (truncated
I smell stupid Americans, willing to "die for our flag."
Go piss and moan about poor youth that were trying to find a way to pay for college somewhere else; you selfish clod.
Zap Rowsdower, young'n
"Gee, how do I pay for college. I know! I'll go kill people of another skin color and religious belief because my government told me too."
They don't use the term "gung-ho" for nothing.
Empire. Same as it ever was.
Anti-Fascist |
12.10.05 - 1:30 am | #
Regarding Nightline...
I'm glad the sons of all those occupation-supporting mothers were killed. I have no empathy, sympathy, or respect for them.
would you be GLAD if your 18 year old daughter died doing what she thought was right by protesting this war?
focus |
12.10.05 - 1:30 am | #
I don't even want wingnuts kids killed in this misbegotten clusterfuck of chimpy's.
four legs good
Not even those blond twin NeoNazi Pop singers?
Barry from Alaska |
12.10.05 - 1:31 am | #
Not even those blond twin NeoNazi Pop singers?
Hmmmmm. That's a hard one.
Nope. I wouldn't want them to become martyrs.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 1:32 am | #
Not even those blond twin NeoNazi Pop singers?
THough I wouldn't be sad if they spontaneously combusted or fell into a hell mouth.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 1:33 am | #
Nope. I wouldn't want them to become martyrs.
four legs good
Agreed, but mom and pop ought to be fair fodder.
Barry from Alaska |
12.10.05 - 1:33 am | #
That RNC 'White Flag' web ad really pissed me off when I saw it today.
Here's my answer: 'Blood'
stranger |
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12.10.05 - 1:34 am | #
Killing other people is never honorable, no matter what the cause.
If you accept killing for one thing, you'll accept it for anything.
No wonder us humans have lost our way.
Anti-Fascist |
12.10.05 - 1:34 am | #
Jeffraham--interesting, Curly's twin Mikey is doing the same thing in the cradle next to me
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere |
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12.10.05 - 1:34 am | #
I'm watching this show Ghost Hunters on sci-fi channel.
They can go in the hell mouth too.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 1:35 am | #
"Gee, how do I pay for college. I know! I'll go kill people of another skin color and religious belief because my government told me too."
They don't use the term "gung-ho" for nothing.
Empire. Same as it ever was.
Anti-Fascist
you idiot...most of them had no fucking idea that was how they'd have to pay for their chance at getting out of endless poverty. Fuck you. Never blame the soldiers - NEVER. We have no fucking idea - except for those of us who have served in the military - what these people have to go through. Shut your pie hole unless you, too, have served. Then...I would listen.
Sarah Deere |
12.10.05 - 1:35 am | #
An Applescript could be a more sophisticated solution as you could perform some filtering (to eliminate dates for example)
Uh, dude, I'm as big an Apple lover as the next gal, but that's a tall order. If it's so easy, why not write it yourself and offer it up to all Web users everywhere?
And it's kind of irrelevant to the original poster, who was already using a screen reader. I feel it's the obligation of the site designer (which Atrios is not) to design accesibility into the site, not that of the impaired reader to write scripts in order to read the content.
I mean, you wouldn't ask somebody in a wheelchair to jack himself up a flight of stairs, would you?
hamletta |
12.10.05 - 1:35 am | #
I mean, you wouldn't ask somebody in a wheelchair to jack himself up a flight of stairs, would you?
If it were a wingnut bushie fleeing from ravenous creature, why yes.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 1:36 am | #
"We have no fucking idea"
Sarah Deere
At least you admit your ignorance.
Anti-Fascist |
12.10.05 - 1:36 am | #
That RNC 'White Flag' web ad really pissed me off when I saw it today.
Me too.
Well, let them own their little clusterfuck.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 1:38 am | #
I went to university and got a Bachelor's Degree. Cost me $32,000 in Federal Student Loans. I didn't have to kill a single innocent child or woman in a distant country for it either.
Though, I suspect once the international bankers fuck the economy over again just like they did in 1929, I'll be paying for it in ways I don't even want to think about.
Anti-Fascist |
12.10.05 - 1:38 am | #
No wonder us humans have lost our way.
Anti-Fascist
From what, pray tell?
Lemme guess...you're a John Zerzan/anarchist/primitavist-type, right?
Zap Rowsdower, young'n |
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12.10.05 - 1:39 am | #
Keep on swallowing the "left-right" bullshit. That'll get you far.
Anti-Fascist |
12.10.05 - 1:42 am | #
I think Cynthia McFadden was about to shed a tear of her own there, at the end...
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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12.10.05 - 1:42 am | #
I went to university and got a Bachelor's Degree. Cost me $32,000 in Federal Student Loans. I didn't have to kill a single innocent child or woman in a distant country for it either.
well, great. compassion is not your long suit, eh?
You know, the world does not have to be this way. We have the power to change it. Human life does not have to ben brutish, nasty, and short (or however that goes). We really can help one another get through it all. We just choose not to. Shame, really.
Sarah Deere |
12.10.05 - 1:43 am | #
Anti-F: what *should* we be doing?
nick carraway |
12.10.05 - 1:44 am | #
I mean, you wouldn't ask somebody in a wheelchair to jack himself up a flight of stairs, would you?
Um, didn't Ted Stevens cover that in the transportation bill.
Bridge to Nowhere -- check.
Wheelchair jackerupper --- check.
Barry from Alaska |
12.10.05 - 1:45 am | #
Geez, you people are stupid.
Keep on swallowing the "left-right" bullshit. That'll get you far.
Anti-Fascist
and "where" are you my friend?
focus |
12.10.05 - 1:46 am | #
hamletta -- South Park is on... it's the "It" episode.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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12.10.05 - 1:46 am | #
Anti-Fascist--your comments show very little insight into human behavior and motivation.
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere |
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12.10.05 - 1:46 am | #
Oh wait, the wheelchair jackerupper was killed in committee, seems Tom Delay objected when the first Congressional benefactor appeared to be Sen. Byrd.
Tommy couldn't have a dem benefitting in any way, so the WCJUpper was killed.
Barry from Alaska |
12.10.05 - 1:47 am | #
compassion is not your long suit, eh?
Sarah Deere
No, Sarah. Blind patriotism and flag-waving isn't my "long suit."
And, by the way, I think the phrase you were looking for was "strong suit."
The world is borderless and operates not according to national boundaries. International bankers and economists don't give a shit whether or not a good or service is produced in Cambodia or El Salvador. They merely use nationalistic and patriotic propaganda to keep the masses constantly divided amongst one another.
I'm sorry if I have no tears for these pathetic creatures that were on Nightline tonight. They're willing pawns in a game of chess being played by the rich elite of the world. The truth is out there, but it's too challenging to their little narrow minds to go find.
They get what they deserve.
Anti-Fascist |
12.10.05 - 1:49 am | #
DeLay. Going Down, please. Please.
Sarah Deere |
12.10.05 - 1:50 am | #
Keep on swallowing the "left-right" bullshit. That'll get you far.
Anti-Fascist
Oh, dear pure sage...
Show us the errors that we've made; and tell us the pure path to peace...
No, Sarah. Blind patriotism and flag-waving isn't my "long suit."
Ah, I knew it, Anti F is a knee pants kind of guy.
Barry from Alaska |
12.10.05 - 1:51 am | #
don't ever give up or be bitter remember others may hate you but it's no matter unless you hate them back and then you destroy yourself.
dick |
12.10.05 - 1:51 am | #
Anti-F: what *should* we be doing?
nick carraway
Oh, I don't know - maybe marching to Washington and physically removing all these corrupt, racist, xenophobic, suit-and-tie bastards from OUR government instead of sitting here and typing worthless shit on a damn blog.
But, if it makes you feel better - write letters and vote on Diebold machines. That'll do it.
Anti-Fascist |
12.10.05 - 1:51 am | #
Anti Fascist: you're displaying a narrow little mind yourself, and in your contempt for those less enlightened than yourself, a touch less "anti" fascist than you realize.
nick carraway |
12.10.05 - 1:52 am | #
...They get what they deserve.
Anti-Fascist
and you are qualified to make this call, how?|
focus |
12.10.05 - 1:52 am | #
Physically removing people from the government is going to get bloody. I thought it was immoral to kill for *any* cause.
nick carraway |
12.10.05 - 1:54 am | #
Seriously, what - 100 million people in this country disagree with the current government, maybe more.
What would happen if we all converged on DC and removed these bastards physically - no violence and guns needed, because guys like Rick Santorum (my lovely state's junior senator) and Dennis Hastert wouldn't stick around long enough to grab the last doughnut before getting out of dodge.
That's my plan. What's yours? Writing letters to people like Roy Blunt and Jon Kyl?
Oh, I don't know - maybe marching to Washington and physically removing all these corrupt, racist, xenophobic, suit-and-tie bastards from OUR government instead of sitting here and typing worthless shit on a damn blog.
Yet you've been here a while doing just that.
And what's the point anyway? Weren't the halcyon days of the US over before the Civil War?
Miriam |
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12.10.05 - 1:57 am | #
What would happen if we all converged on DC and removed these bastards physically - no violence and guns needed, because guys like Rick Santorum (my lovely state's junior senator) and Dennis Hastert wouldn't stick around long enough to grab the last doughnut before getting out of dodge.
That's my plan. What's yours? Writing letters to people like Roy Blunt and Jon Kyl?
Good luck.
Anti-Fascist
and if some of us died ala Kent State, what would we be?
focus |
12.10.05 - 1:58 am | #
Oh, I don't know - maybe marching to Washington and physically removing all these corrupt, racist, xenophobic, suit-and-tie bastards from OUR government instead of sitting here and typing worthless shit on a damn blog.
Oh jeez, that's clever.
When are you going to DC, pal? How armed are you? How many comrades do you got?
Zap Rowsdower, young'n |
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12.10.05 - 1:58 am | #
If war is justifiable, murder is justifiable.
dick |
12.10.05 - 1:59 am | #
gonna need a lot more than *luck* to pull *that* idea off... is there really such a thing as Divine Intervention???
nick carraway |
12.10.05 - 2:00 am | #
What's up with the jerkoff? I thought Ayn Rand was dead.
Speaking of which, saw Kiss Kiss Bang Bang tonight - much funnier than I was expecting. Plenty of gratuitous violence and casual nudity as well. Kind of a Mike Hammer parody. Doesn't seem to be getting much notice though.
JeffCO |
12.10.05 - 2:01 am | #
Hey doug, how's tricks?
Are you healing up?
Central Scrutinizer |
12.10.05 - 2:01 am | #
'It's just a goddamned piece of paper' An instant classic. It reminds me of the wit of Abe Lincoln or Harry Truman.
dick |
12.10.05 - 2:02 am | #
It's not that Anti-Fascist doesn't understand what's going on... they've just lost all patience.
Patience in my book requires persistence in waiting for the fiery wreck to build up enough self-destructive heat to vaporize itself. Bushco is reaching melting point just lately... we've got a long wait ahead.
Pitchforks and Torches |
12.10.05 - 2:02 am | #
And what's the point anyway? Weren't the halcyon days of the US over before the Civil War?
Miriam
Yes, actually, they were. Thanks for reminding me.
Sometimes, I get a little ideological and forget that this country has been Fascist for well over 100 years. Hell, even the original salute to our flag under our "Pledge of Allegiance" was the Nazi salute, even before the Nazis began using it. There are pictures of school children saluting the flag as such on the 'net. Not hard to find.
And, our "Pledge" was written by an avowed Socialist.
Fun stuff for a late Friday night, eh?
Anti-Fascist |
12.10.05 - 2:03 am | #
It's only immoral if you believe in god. dick
Spoken like a dick that believes morality can only derive from religion or belief in god. Liar.
JeffCO |
12.10.05 - 2:03 am | #
Bush on the Constitution: 'It's just a goddamned piece of paper'
Maybe there's a good reason that I don't come here at night...
And, our "Pledge" was written by an avowed Socialist.
The point of this?
Miriam |
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12.10.05 - 2:05 am | #
Maybe there's a good reason that I don't come here at night...
It's BS, buddy.
Zap Rowsdower, young'n
Just like the WMD scare-tactic and "nuclear bomb" scare-tactic leading up to the illegal invasion of Iraq, eh ZR?
These people don't give a shit about the Constitution, so why would it be a surprise if they stated so?
Anti-Fascist |
12.10.05 - 2:06 am | #
gonna need a lot more than *luck* to pull *that* idea off... is there really such a thing as Divine Intervention???
nick carraway
Divine intervention is what Chimpy McFlightsuit thinks his existence if about...being the long arm of God.
Pitchforks and Torches |
12.10.05 - 2:07 am | #
The point of this?
Miriam
...Is to get you to look past the BS we are fed about world history.
Anti-Fascist |
12.10.05 - 2:07 am | #
Are you healing up?
I got some good new from the CT scan I got yesterday. Things are healing up but tomorrow, they are still putting me on a new series of antibiotics. They need to clean up the rest of the messs. BTW, the current theory is that this damage may have occured from overseas service in Africa and the middle east decades ago. Being a sturdy guy, I've been fighting it off that long.
Tonight I had two cans of chicken noodle soup and two pieces of bread. A feast! Well, compared with living on a totally liquid diet for the last two weeks, and nothing at all for one other, than an IV drip.
doug,curiouser |
12.10.05 - 2:07 am | #
Or, I should say, since it's almost 2 a.m. eastern time, and I am very tired...
Good night, and good luck.
Anti-Fascist
Go to bed, your dear leader has been asleep for the last 6 hours. Or was that years? I forget.
Barry from Alaska |
12.10.05 - 2:07 am | #
...Is to get you to look past the BS we are fed about world history.
I'm glad we have good folx like you to save us from ourselves.
No, really.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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12.10.05 - 2:09 am | #
...Is to get you to look past the BS we are fed about world history.
Anti-Fascist
Get over your fucking condescension and explain what the socialism of the pledge author has to do with America's Fascism, which somehow didn't exist when slavery did.
Miriam |
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12.10.05 - 2:09 am | #
Tuned out for a while. Have I opened my White Castle franchise yet?
Did I say anything else... strange while I was gone?
Eli |
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12.10.05 - 2:09 am | #
Who tells the truth about world history?
nick carraway |
12.10.05 - 2:09 am | #
?Who tells the truth about world history?
nick carraway
for the first 50 or 100 years, the victors.
Then archaeologists.
Barry from Alaska |
12.10.05 - 2:10 am | #
Oy, hidebound ideologues are not so much fun.
Thers |
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12.10.05 - 2:10 am | #
And, our "Pledge" was written by an avowed Socialist.
Fun stuff for a late Friday night, eh?
Anti-Fascis
your anger is good, but it is misplaced. the machine of facsism is not running here. it is in the divide and conquer strategy which you so willingly swallow and spit...
focus |
12.10.05 - 2:11 am | #
Who tells the truth about world history?
The victors. They *create* the truth.
Eli |
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12.10.05 - 2:11 am | #
Just like the WMD scare-tactic and "nuclear bomb" scare-tactic leading up to the illegal invasion of Iraq, eh ZR?
So, let me get this straight...
A publication that you happen to agree with, says something that you like. Okay. That makes it correct?
Prove your fucking point, already.
Zap Rowsdower, young'n |
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12.10.05 - 2:11 am | #
Oy, hidebound ideologues are not so much fun.
Or edible.
Eli |
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12.10.05 - 2:11 am | #
Tonight I had two cans of chicken noodle soup and two pieces of bread. A feast!
Good for the waistline, eh? I'm so glad to hear things are better.
My thoughts are with you!
Central Scrutinizer |
12.10.05 - 2:13 am | #
hamletta -- South Park is on... it's the "It" episode.
Sorry. Missed it favor of the last part of an interview with a Texas shrimper woman who went up against Big Industry.
But the teaser for next week featured our own Jim Cooper, God love him.
Our little friend Anti-Fascist is having trouble with continuity, isn't he? If he isn't careful, he's going to get in trouble with the neo-McCarthyites for being retroactively prematurely anti-Fascist.
Just like Jack Warner!
hamletta |
12.10.05 - 2:13 am | #
Get over your fucking condescension and explain what the socialism of the pledge author has to do with America's Fascism, which somehow didn't exist when slavery did.
Look at the start of the early American Eugenics movement. This does not explain American Fascism, but there are some interesting ties there. Also some ties to some well known Americans and American institutions.
doug,curiouser |
12.10.05 - 2:13 am | #
Oy, hidebound ideologues are not so much fun.
Or edible.
Eli
They try to be tough, but they just come off jerk-y...
Miriam |
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12.10.05 - 2:13 am | #
Ah, I knew it, Anti F is a knee pants kind of guy.
Just another idiot trying to get us to say that we support the death of soldiers and the violent overthrow of the government.
This alleged anti-fascist sounds awfully familiar- same personality and phrasing as some other jackoff prick who used to post here. Can't remember which one though. Why do they always want to teach us to be better citizens to a government they claim to despise? What's wrong with them?
JeffCO |
12.10.05 - 2:14 am | #
Or edible.
Fudge is edible.
And delicious!
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 2:14 am | #
Dear and Glorious Physician were greta tonite. ya'll should get out more.
alas, to stay OT, phuck the stenographers!
Mrs. Ibrahim al-jafaari |
12.10.05 - 2:15 am | #
Why do they always want to teach us to be better citizens to a government they claim to despise? What's wrong with them?
They got dropped on their little haids as infants.
four legs good |
12.10.05 - 2:15 am | #
Fudge is edible.
And delicious!
four legs good
Fudge isn't usually hidebound though.
Barry from Alaska |
12.10.05 - 2:16 am | #
Is Miriam Miriam or Ror not checking cookies?
Forgive any impertinence.
Thers |
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12.10.05 - 2:16 am | #
"each man is a factory"
reminded me of early Mission of Burma and Gang of Four. amazing things one can do with 4 pieces.
I bought the CD. what's 3 dollars?
Mrs. Ibrahim al-jafaari |
12.10.05 - 2:16 am | #
Never trust anyone who says human lives are disposable simply because he or she disagrees with what those lives believe. Simple as that.
Matt T. |
12.10.05 - 2:17 am | #
Howerver, the ham flavored jello is wonderful, or so Farfinir tells me.
Barry from Alaska |
12.10.05 - 2:17 am | #
It's *our* fault because we spend too much time on the internets while the moon slides deeper into the western sky outside the window.
well, that's what *I'm* doing wrong...
nick carraway |
12.10.05 - 2:18 am | #
G'night sweet moonbats.
I'd love to stick around but tomorrow's another day, and an early one at that.
Be well all.
Central Scrutinizer |
12.10.05 - 2:18 am | #
hamletta: Sorry. Missed it favor of the last part of an interview with a Texas shrimper woman who went up against Big Industry.
Yeah; I caught Now earlier. It repeats several times over the wee hours, too. I'd like to see it expanded back to a one hour format.
But the teaser for next week featured our own Jim Cooper, God love him.
Yeah, I saw that, too! I may tape that.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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12.10.05 - 2:18 am | #
I have fudge from last Christmas - errm I mean godless holiday period - in my refrigerator. Both chocolate and butterscotch. What's wrong with me?
JeffCO |
12.10.05 - 2:19 am | #
"senior administration officials" report that sodomy and waterboarding, along with the repudiation of 7 years of forgiveness for debts, are , in fact, deeply held Christian values.
who would Jesus waterboard?
Mrs. Ibrahim al-jafaari |
12.10.05 - 2:20 am | #
you don't like fudge or it's just crappy fudge. Throw it away then. It can't be good anymore.
doug,curiouser |
12.10.05 - 2:20 am | #
I have fudge from last Christmas - errm I mean godless holiday period - in my refrigerator. Both chocolate and butterscotch. What's wrong with me?
You are saving them for the final days?
Barry from Alaska |
12.10.05 - 2:20 am | #
I'm up way too late.
Wake me when Anti-Fascist is standing on the front lawn of 1600 Pennsylvania with a black face mask on; carrying an M-16.
Peace, all.
Zap Rowsdower, young'n |
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12.10.05 - 2:21 am | #
Who tells the truth about world history?
The victors. They *create* the truth.
Dude, I went to high school with Victor, and he really sucked at history.
Thers |
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12.10.05 - 2:21 am | #
you don't like fudge or it's just crappy fudge
Dammit - I want that third option! /Kirk
JeffCO |
12.10.05 - 2:22 am | #
Look at the start of the early American Eugenics movement.
Is it just me, or is there something inherently obnoxious about this sort of use of the imperative, telling people to read or research this or that, assuming they do not already know about it?
rorschach |
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12.10.05 - 2:22 am | #
Be well all.
Central Scrutinizer
You too CS.
Barry from Alaska |
12.10.05 - 2:22 am | #
Dammit - I want that third option! /Kirk
3rd) then feed it to dith.
doug,curiouser |
12.10.05 - 2:23 am | #
rorschach, I would assume you do know of the eugenics movement. This wasn't addressed to you.
doug,curiouser |
12.10.05 - 2:23 am | #
Dude, I went to high school with Victor, and he really sucked at history.
I met a guy named Victor on my way home a few months ago. He told me that his fiancee told him that the Devil told her to do things and she did them. She later tried to kill him with his own samurai sword, but he disarmed her and just managed to stop himself before he cut out her heart and chopped off her head so that they hit the ground at the same time.
Eli |
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12.10.05 - 2:24 am | #
Is it just me, or is there something inherently obnoxious....
No, dear, it's not just you.
It's some putz who thinks he can pretend to embody all leftist thought, but only knows of such through caricatures.
Thus the utter lack of compassion.
hamletta |
12.10.05 - 2:24 am | #
Brilliant 3rd option! Hey- it's the Mark Twain ep of STTNG on Spike.
JeffCO |
12.10.05 - 2:24 am | #
Look at the start of the early American Eugenics movement
KHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!
JeffCO |
12.10.05 - 2:25 am | #
You probably just didn't cook them long enough.
Marcia Brady ∞ |
12.10.05 - 2:27 am | #
I actually know very little about the American Eugenics movement, and I was not inspired by that particular commenter to educate myself, especially at 1 a.m. (but maybe I'm being obnoxious)
nick carraway |
12.10.05 - 2:28 am | #
I want a job as clark.
Barry from Alaska |
12.10.05 - 2:28 am | #
I want a job as clark.
Well, you kent have one.
Eli |
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12.10.05 - 2:28 am | #
You probably just didn't cook them long enough.
They are a bit half-baked, now that you mention it.
Eli |
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12.10.05 - 2:29 am | #
I was going to suggest taking the last train to clarksville, but you may have missed it already.
JeffCO |
12.10.05 - 2:30 am | #
rorschach, I would assume you do know of the eugenics movement. This wasn't addressed to you.
doug,curiouser
Well, it was, though you couldn't know that. My wife had reset the cookies, so I was posting as Miriam for a while there without noticing...
Anyway, it's all good.
rorschach |
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12.10.05 - 2:30 am | #
They are a bit half-baked
No sir, they're completely baked.
JeffCO |
12.10.05 - 2:31 am | #
I actually know very little about the American Eugenics movement
Read about it or not. I found this book to be interesting.
The War against the Weak: Eugenics and America's Campaign to Create a Master Race--Edwin Black
doug,curiouser |
12.10.05 - 2:31 am | #
here is an organization i worked with as a clark- very enlightening, and very sad.
focus
focus
Thank you for that, focus.
I am so sick of it.
rorschach |
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12.10.05 - 2:32 am | #
I want a job as clark.
you have to start as a coal scuttler
/Cratchet
focus |
12.10.05 - 2:32 am | #
I met a guy named Victor on my way home a few months ago. He told me that his fiancee told him that the Devil told her to do things and she did them. She later tried to kill him with his own samurai sword, but he disarmed her and just managed to stop himself before he cut out her heart and chopped off her head so that they hit the ground at the same time.
Oh, THAT Victor. How's he doing?
Thers |
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12.10.05 - 2:32 am | #
well 'bats the moon has dropped below the horizon (I live in a valley) and it's time to throw a few more sticks in the woodburner & call it a night.
nick carraway |
12.10.05 - 2:33 am | #
Oh, THAT Victor. How's he doing?
Not engaged.
Eli |
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12.10.05 - 2:33 am | #
JeffCO: I was going to suggest taking the last train to clarksville, but you may have missed it already.
Hey! That's where my ladyfriend lives! I wish there was a train to Clarksville. Really, I do.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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12.10.05 - 2:34 am | #
Not engaged.
Eli
Too bad. She sounded lovely.
Marcia Brady ∞ |
12.10.05 - 2:35 am | #
doug, curiouser (& obviously the real one): thanks for the book recommendation.
nick carraway |
12.10.05 - 2:35 am | #
JP - her name's not Sleepy Jean by any chance?
JeffCO |
12.10.05 - 2:35 am | #
Too bad. She sounded lovely.
I should have gotten her number.
Eli |
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12.10.05 - 2:35 am | #
Not that girls with swords are anywhere *near* as sexy as girls with guns, of course...
And plaid skirts.
Eli |
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12.10.05 - 2:36 am | #
Too bad. She sounded lovely.
Plus, her prospects must be a bit reduced after the disarming and all.
JeffCO |
12.10.05 - 2:36 am | #
you have to start as a coal scuttler
I'm alergic to sctuttles. Can I get disability instead?
How about fast track me to CFO? I've got a specia oven for cooking books.
Barry from Alaska |
12.10.05 - 2:36 am | #
JP - her name's not Sleepy Jean by any chance?
I thought it was Valerie.
Eli |
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12.10.05 - 2:37 am | #
I should have gotten her number.
Eli
Spilt milk. Or something.
Marcia Brady ∞ |
12.10.05 - 2:37 am | #
me too, we had to send 14 & 15 year olds away for sexual abuse to be... and yes you guessed it sexually abused.
focus |
12.10.05 - 2:38 am | #
Not that girls with swords are anywhere *near* as sexy as girls with guns, of course...
And plaid skirts.
Eli
Can I choose "D--All of the Above"?
rorschach |
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12.10.05 - 2:38 am | #
Spilt milk. Or something.
Eh. I don't have a samurai sword, so she probably wouldn't have given me the time of day anyway.
Eli |
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12.10.05 - 2:39 am | #
And plaid skirts.
Eli
Boys in plaid skirts can be intriguing as well.
Marcia Brady ∞ |
12.10.05 - 2:39 am | #
Boys in plaid skirts can be intriguing as well.
But not to me...
Eli |
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12.10.05 - 2:40 am | #
Boys in plaid skirts can be intriguing as well.
They've been kilt for less.
JeffCO |
12.10.05 - 2:40 am | #
I should probably call it a night, so that I can preserve the illusion that I'll go out and take snow pictures tomorrow...
Eli |
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12.10.05 - 2:41 am | #
They get what they deserve.
Anti-Fascist |
Doubt you're still here, but...precious few of us actually get what we deserve.
Becoming bitter and cynical is not an especially satisfying way to live.
If you have a brain, intelligence - it's nothing without compassion.
That's air far too cold and far too rarified for me to ever live in.
I doubt you will be able to, either, without heavy payment therefore.
And, yeah, strong, long, whatever!!! I am a hopelessly stupid and careless bridge player
Sarah Deere |
12.10.05 - 2:41 am | #
What'd I miss? Anything?
Phila |
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12.10.05 - 2:41 am | #
Eh. I don't have a samurai sword, so she probably wouldn't have given me the time of day anyway.
Eli
No samurai sword, huh? I'm sure your disturbing clown things would more than make up for the lack.
Marcia Brady ∞ |
12.10.05 - 2:41 am | #
take snow pictures tomorrow...
bring a ND filter to dim things out if it's sunny.
doug,curiouser |
12.10.05 - 2:41 am | #
Hey JeffCo, you must've seen Forbidden Games?
Phila |
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12.10.05 - 2:41 am | #
Boys in plaid skirts can be intriguing as well.
Marcia Brady
I should probably call it a night, so that I can preserve the illusion that I'll go out and take snow pictures tomorrow...
Eli
Afternoon snow pictures are nice, too.
Marcia Brady ∞ |
12.10.05 - 2:42 am | #
No samurai sword, huh? I'm sure your disturbing clown things would more than make up for the lack.
I think it's a prerequisite that you have to own *something* that she can slice you in half with, so I'm pretty sure I don't qualify.
Eli |
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12.10.05 - 2:43 am | #
me too, we had to send 14 & 15 year olds away for sexual abuse to be... and yes you guessed it sexually abused.
focus
Urg. And too many people just think that sexual abuse in prison is AOK, especially for those convicted of it themselves. Vile.
rorschach |
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12.10.05 - 2:43 am | #
*hanging head in shame*
Phila - err, I think I have a copy on tape, but no, I have been remiss.
JeffCO |
12.10.05 - 2:43 am | #
But not to me...
Eli
I'd have to see your knees before making an assessment...
Marcia Brady ∞ |
12.10.05 - 2:43 am | #
Apparently I'm starting a White Castle franchise.
Eli
Go for White Tower, instead...a cheap knock-off.
Hey, you should take a look at the link I have to a bunch of color photos of Russia from 1907...
Phila |
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12.10.05 - 2:44 am | #
Afternoon snow pictures are nice, too.
Knowing me, I'll be lucky to get out before sundown.
On the other hand, I *do* have a decent tripod now...
Eli |
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12.10.05 - 2:44 am | #
Phila - err, I think I have a copy on tape, but no, I have been remiss.
JeffCO
Well, it's on Criterion now. Everyone should watch it...an absolutely heartbreaking movie about the effect of war on children.
Phila |
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12.10.05 - 2:45 am | #
On the other hand, I *do* have a decent tripod now...
Eli
So those penis enlargement pills actually work?
Phila |
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12.10.05 - 2:46 am | #
I'd have to see your knees before making an assessment...
They're very loose.
Eli |
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12.10.05 - 2:47 am | #
Jeez, I sure know how to close a thread down.
Phila |
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12.10.05 - 2:47 am | #
Knowing me, I'll be lucky to get out before sundown.
Eli
I actually made it out today when the sun was still up. I'm working on the deathly pale look, so I'll try to sleep in later tomorrow.
Marcia Brady ∞ |
12.10.05 - 2:48 am | #
Phila, without having a calibration target,
I'm amazed how decent the photoshopping of the Russian pictures came out.
doug,curiouser |
12.10.05 - 2:52 am | #
Having had ACL replacement surgery, I can assure you that you don't want your knees *too* loose.
JeffCO |
12.10.05 - 2:52 am | #
I guess. I can't hit worth a damn, though.
Eli
Maybe you should try holding the bat in your hands.
But what do I know.
Marcia Brady ∞ |
12.10.05 - 2:54 am | #
wow, youse guys are up this late. what time does Atrios close this blog anyway?
focus |
12.10.05 - 2:55 am | #
Maybe you should try holding the bat in your hands.
But what do I know.
What about the glove? Yea or nay?
Or do I just need to do better at keeping my eye on the balls?
Unfortunately, I will almost certainly be unconscious by the time you reply, possibly even before I finish typing this...
Eli |
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12.10.05 - 2:56 am | #
what time does Atrios close this blog anyway
He doesn't, unless the haloscan server crashes.
doug,curiouser |
12.10.05 - 2:56 am | #
Independence Day is on. This is the best movie ever made. Very rousing.
Thers |
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12.10.05 - 2:56 am | #
Phila, without having a calibration target,
I'm amazed how decent the photoshopping of the Russian pictures came out.
doug,curiouser
It's pretty amazing. There were a few early experiments with color that turned out really well, but never went anywhere. I went to a showing of early color movies about a year ago, and there was one guy who'd managed to get something very close to Technicolor circa 1912. But it never amounted to anything.
Phila |
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12.10.05 - 2:57 am | #
Most of the places in the photo sets probobly are not there anymore.
It's funny to see photos of Russia with sunny, clear blue skies. I think it was part of the propaganda for so many years that every photo from there shown in America be gray and depressing.
Marcia Brady ∞ |
12.10.05 - 2:57 am | #
Hey! That's where my ladyfriend lives! I wish there was a train to Clarksville. Really, I do.
Heh. Passenger train service to Nashville ceased in the early '70s.
You're a more recent transplant, so you probably don't remember when Union Station was a huge white elephant waiting to be adopted. And you probably weren't as sad as I was to see the shed torn down.
But there was this movie in the mid-to-late '70s, called Concrete Cowboys, starring a pre-Magnum Tom Selleck and Jerry Reed as PIs in Nashville, whose final chase scene was in the dilapidated, pigeon-filled, Union Station. (They plugged in a few neon beer gimme signs for some kinda effect.)
Also features scenes shot at Hippodrome Olds, with everyday Broadway traffic visible in the background.
Of course, they wear cowboy hat throughout, because everybody in Nashville wears a cowboy hat, right?
hamletta |
12.10.05 - 2:57 am | #
when will the next thread start... there's a frist item to put up...
Mr.Murder |
12.10.05 - 2:57 am | #
Independence Day is on. This is the best movie ever made. Very rousing.
I was able to suspend disbelief and enjoy the ride, right up to the point where Jeff Goldblum gave one of the alien spaceships a virus...
Eli |
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12.10.05 - 2:57 am | #
Most of the places in the photo sets probobly are not there anymore.
Replaced with horrifying concrete tenement blocks for the Noble Worker, most likely.
Phila |
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12.10.05 - 2:58 am | #
Unfortunately, I will almost certainly be unconscious by the time you reply, possibly even before I finish typing this...
Eli
No stamina. I'll be up for at least three more hours.
Independence Day makes everything that Kurosowa guy ever did look like a pile of crap.
Thers
But then, so does the average Gumby cartoon.
Phila |
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12.10.05 - 3:02 am | #
hamletta: You're a more recent transplant, so you probably don't remember when Union Station was a huge white elephant waiting to be adopted. And you probably weren't as sad as I was to see the shed torn down.
That had to have happened before I got here in 1995. All I remember of Union Station is the Flying Saucer.
Of course, they wear cowboy hat throughout, because everybody in Nashville wears a cowboy hat, right?
Sure -- I never leave the house without it, of course! If you don't believe me, you can ask Soprano.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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12.10.05 - 3:03 am | #
Very nice.
Phila |
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12.10.05 - 3:03 am | #
The script of Independence Day was written in blank verse and every shot is a modern art masterpiece.
Thers |
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12.10.05 - 3:04 am | #
I think everyone involved in Mars Attacks! should be clapped in irons for mocking the glory that is Independence Day.
rorschach |
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12.10.05 - 3:04 am | #
I like the part where the aliens try to force the humans to drag one of their ships through the Peruvian jungle to set up an intergalactic opera house.
JeffCO |
12.10.05 - 3:04 am | #
The script of Independence Day was written in blank verse and every shot is a modern art masterpiece.
Thers
Did you know that if you play it alongside The Wizard of Oz, it syncs up perfectly?
Phila |
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12.10.05 - 3:05 am | #
I like the part where the aliens try to force the humans to drag one of their ships through the Peruvian jungle to set up an intergalactic opera house.
JeffCO
Yeah, and one of the aliens keeps putting his wife on stage, even though she's really terrible, and makes the earth newspapers praise her.
Phila |
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12.10.05 - 3:06 am | #
The best part of Independence Day is the verisimiliude. If you look closely you can see the giant cable that provides the evil alien mothership with their dial-up AOL connection.
Thers |
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12.10.05 - 3:07 am | #
And who among us is not flush with pride for our take-charge fighter pilot President, ably played by Bill Paxton.
JeffCO |
12.10.05 - 3:09 am | #
The original screenplay of Independence Day was by Sheridan, who was ahead of his time.
Thers |
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12.10.05 - 3:09 am | #
The original screenplay of Independence Day was by Sheridan, who was ahead of his time.
Thers
Posh.
It is nothing less than Shakespearean in its grandeur.
rorschach |
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12.10.05 - 3:11 am | #
The best part of Independence Day is the verisimiliude. If you look closely you can see the giant cable that provides the evil alien mothership with their dial-up AOL connection.
Thers
That's actually product placement. In fact, the actors were paid off in AOL installation discs to keep costs down.
You can't tell it was made on a shoestring, though. it's amazing when you think that the entire movie was filmed on an old Bell & Howell regular 8 camera, using an empty aquarium for a set.
Phila |
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12.10.05 - 3:11 am | #
Okay, sleepin' may be the thang...
♥
Jeffraham Prestonian |
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12.10.05 - 3:12 am | #
Urg. And too many people just think that sexual abuse in prison is AOK, especially for those convicted of it themselves. Vile.
rorschach |
Perhaps it titillates them, who knows. For some, rape is rape in quotation marks: "rape".
I don't think they have a clue how truly horrible it really is - how soul-shattering.
Sarah Deere |
12.10.05 - 3:12 am | #
The original screenplay of Independence Day was by Sheridan, who was ahead of his time.
Thers
From an idea by Oliver Goldsmith, I believe. It was originally titled "They Stoop to Conquer."
Phila |
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12.10.05 - 3:13 am | #
And who among us is not flush with pride for our take-charge fighter pilot President, ably played by Bill Paxton.
That's BILL PULLMAN, you ill-bred Philistine.
(Swirls contents of brandy snifter, tastefully emblazoned with family crest and heroic scenes from epic Scooby-Doo episodes)
Thers |
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12.10.05 - 3:15 am | #
And who among us is not flush with pride for our take-charge fighter pilot President, ably played by Bill Paxton.
Um, I did my time dubya?
Barry from Alaska |
12.10.05 - 3:15 am | #
You all are Philistines. If you don't read Independence Day in the original Old English, thorns and all, you miss the entire ethos of the work.
rorschach |
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12.10.05 - 3:16 am | #
Me, I liked the drunk ex-fighter pilot who ultimately saved the day.
Barry from Alaska |
12.10.05 - 3:16 am | #
From an idea by Oliver Goldsmith, I believe. It was originally titled "They Stoop to Conquer."
it was "School for Scandal, and Up Yours You Alien Pricks!"
Thers |
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12.10.05 - 3:17 am | #
epic Scooby-Doo episodes)
Thers
Typical liberal. Scooby-Doo destroyed the faith of a generation, by explaining the supernatural in resolutely material terms. It was a little more than a Schoole for Atheisme.
Phila |
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12.10.05 - 3:17 am | #
That's BILL PULLMAN, you ill-bred Philistine.
Is there no place for the man with the 105 IQ??? I'm a Spalding Gray in a Rick Dees world.
JeffCO |
12.10.05 - 3:18 am | #
Typical liberal. Scooby-Doo destroyed the faith of a generation, by explaining the supernatural in resolutely material terms. It was a little more than a Schoole for Atheisme.
But, Caspar was real, wasn't he? I mean a real ghost, not just a holographic projection.
Barry from Alaska |
12.10.05 - 3:18 am | #
Scooby-Doo destroyed the faith of a generation
And he'd've gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!
JeffCO |
12.10.05 - 3:20 am | #
You all are Philistines. If you don't read Independence Day in the original Old English, thorns and all, you miss the entire ethos of the work.
rorschach
Mayhap. But unless you read Husserl's volumes of commentary on it, you're destined to misunderstand the tension between the worldly and the extraworldly, in which the aliens are revealed to be nothing less than the transcendental I.
Phila |
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12.10.05 - 3:20 am | #
Holy cow - Melina Mercouri on TCM. What's Greek for Mrrrooowwwrrrww!
JeffCO |
12.10.05 - 3:22 am | #
You all are Philistines.
yes...yes, I am, and I MUST go to sleep soon so as to attend my g'dtr's second Tai Kwon Do belt competition at 9:30 AM at a place about an hour away, and, at my age, I need to get up AT LEAST an hour and a half before leaving home.
Nuts!!
WHy can't they be civilised and do things like this in the afternoon...???
Sarah Deere |
12.10.05 - 3:22 am | #
You all are Philistines. If you don't read Independence Day in the original Old English, thorns and all, you miss the entire ethos of the work.
rorschach
I've seen the "original". Was set in Lucinda Easyread font, which wasn't invented till 1995.
Barry from Alaska |
12.10.05 - 3:22 am | #
But, Caspar was real, wasn't he?
He was the ghost of Richie Rich, who was strangled by Gloria Glad while re-enacting the climax from In the Realm of the Senses.
Phila |
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12.10.05 - 3:22 am | #
Scooby-Doo destroyed the faith of a generation, by explaining the supernatural in resolutely material terms. It was a little more than a Schoole for Atheisme.
Pish-tush. The series left ample ground for wonder at the majesty of Creation. Witness: Scrappy-Doo.
Thers |
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12.10.05 - 3:22 am | #
And he'd've gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!
JeffCO
If you don't read Independence Day in the original Old English, thorns and all, you miss the entire ethos of the work.
I hate that Grendel bastard. What. A. Jerk. I hope Will Smith blows him up read good!
Thers |
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12.10.05 - 3:26 am | #
Mayhap. But unless you read Husserl's volumes of commentary on it, you're destined to misunderstand the tension between the worldly and the extraworldly, in which the aliens are revealed to be nothing less than the transcendental I.
Phila
Am I mistaken that Euclid demonstrated the infeasibility of galactic travel?
JeffCO |
12.10.05 - 3:26 am | #
I'm going to bed. It's gotten very silly around here.
Pish-tush!
God, I love saying "Pish-tush!"
Thers |
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12.10.05 - 3:27 am | #
Pish-tush. The series left ample ground for wonder at the majesty of Creation. Witness: Scrappy-Doo.
Thers
Are you kidding me? Scrappy-Doo and Scooby-Doo represent the dialectical relation between superstructure and base.
Phila |
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12.10.05 - 3:28 am | #
Who doesn't love a Greek hooker with a heart of gold?
JeffCO |
12.10.05 - 3:33 am | #
Well, "Scrappy-Doo"'s name clearly represents the excremental excess of the environmentally destructive capitalist phallogocentric hegemony. Could it be more obvious?
rorschach |
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12.10.05 - 3:36 am | #
As I see it, Scooby-Doo and the kids were ultimately aiming at a revolutionary critique of the supernatural elements of bourgeois culture, which would free the proletariat from the normative effects of an imagined deity's panoptic gaze.
Phila |
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12.10.05 - 3:38 am | #
Why is Atrios advertising (top right of main page) the website of a guy called "Rob Port", whos cleverest and most quotable quote is: "It's nice to know that the Democratic efforts to convince Americans that we're losing the war is having such a wonderful impact on our image abroad."
He is not sincere. The idiot says this as what that O'Reilley pervert might descrtibe as a "satirical riff".
I have no plans to grace Mr Port's website with my presence, but I would note to anyone not currently barfing at the fool's gibberish that I live out here in the real, non-insane, world, and I can inform you that it is only through the efforts of the brave and responsible democrats within your currently uber-weird country, that, frankly, we allow you to travel out of North America at all.
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TelltaleHeart |
12.10.05 - 3:39 am | #
Well, "Scrappy-Doo"'s name clearly represents the excremental excess of the environmentally destructive capitalist phallogocentric hegemony. Could it be more obvious?
rorschach
There's some truth to that. But the show's real achievement is the revelation of the ghost in capitalism's machine...the link between supernatural terror and occult vengeance as a form of social control, and the everyday operations of capitalism.
Phila |
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12.10.05 - 3:41 am | #
As I see it, Scooby-Doo and the kids were ultimately aiming at a revolutionary critique of the supernatural elements of bourgeois culture, which would free the proletariat from the normative effects of an imagined deity's panoptic gaze.
Phila
Yeah, but it undermined itself by relying upon the power of consumption, embodied by scoobysnacks and the preternatural power of the van which always managed to remove them from the consequences of their actions...
rorschach |
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12.10.05 - 3:42 am | #
Sheesh - get a room already you two! Bon nuit!
JeffCO |
12.10.05 - 3:43 am | #
It's all in my latest paper, entitled Money and Ghosts: Supernatural Hegemony, Class Consciousness, and the Unfinished Work of Humanism in Scooby-Doo.
Phila |
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12.10.05 - 3:45 am | #
On that note, I'm going to turn it. G'night.
Phila |
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12.10.05 - 3:46 am | #
There's Fred and Velma, who represent the technocratic elites of the capitalist infrastructure. And then Daphne, the clueless entertainment industry, always bumbling about in ways that serve the rulers' ends.
And then there are the "drop outs" Shaggy and Scooby, who contribute nothing, except that they do contribute by eating and slacking, letting the whole capitalist drama play out.
rorschach |
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12.10.05 - 3:47 am | #
It's all in my latest paper, entitled Money and Ghosts: Supernatural Hegemony, Class Consciousness, and the Unfinished Work of Humanism in Scooby-Doo.
I'm pissed.
You have a paper, Kos has a book. And I have nothing but black pixels on a screen.
Phish-tush
Barry from Alaska |
12.10.05 - 3:48 am | #
g'night all.
rorschach |
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12.10.05 - 3:49 am | #
It is nothing less than Shakespearean in its grandeur.
rorschach
you guys are funnin' - right????
Sarah Deere |
12.10.05 - 3:53 am | #
you guys are funnin' - right????
Sarah Deere
Now who would make jokes about God's own planet under attack by, gulp, Ailiens?
Wouldn't be in the Christmas Spirit to acknowledge, gulp, Ailiens.
Not even at Wal-Mart.
Barry from Alaska |
12.10.05 - 3:56 am | #
Barry...
And, now, to bed. Granchildren are now more important than ANYTHING.
Quick sleep, quick up.
Y'know???
Sleep well, yourself, please.
Sarah Deere |
12.10.05 - 4:01 am | #
Why is Atrios advertising (top right of main page) the website of a guy called "Rob Port"....
He's not. The ad is actually for a blogspot-like site, where anybody can say anything, and this guy came up.
And anyway, Atrios has long disavowed any responsibility for what BlogAds puts on his site.
hamletta |
12.10.05 - 4:12 am | #
But rorschach--Shaggy and Scooby do contribute by always stumbling upon clues serendipitously while Fred and Velma's logic remined fruitless. They represent Holy Fool archetyes in the Jungian system.
Gawd I hated that show, even as a kid.
And how about that "Last Year at Marienbad"?
Draco |
12.10.05 - 4:13 am | #
Fred and Velma's logic...
Pretty sure it was Wilma.
Barney and Betty next door.
Anonymous |
12.10.05 - 4:22 am | #
And speaking of Rob Port - I know, I know, it has nothing to do with Atrios - just what is that fat, smug dipshit doing to win the war in Iraq? I notice he's not in uniform.
rev.paperboy |
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12.10.05 - 4:41 am | #
¡El Gato Negro!
You should be in el 'ollywood.
Barry from Alaska |
12.10.05 - 4:43 am | #
William Henry Harrison caught pneumonia at his inaugural, and died one month later. Is Bush's record even worse than that? Probably historians will say so.
bob h |
12.10.05 - 6:42 am | #
Posted also at PRESSthink:
In 2001, just before Bush's first presidential installation, Seth Mnookin wrote in the now defunct Brill's Content that those who reported on Bush's campaign would become members of the White House Press Corps.
From the Brill's Content website, posted on 1/19/01, "Roundup: Dubya's Press Posse" (The link I have doesn't work, of course, but the Brill's Content articles may still be available on Lexis-Nexis.)
New administrations bring myriad changes to the Washington landscape, and not just for the thousands of political appointees who populate the capital. The fourth estate has a traditional changing of the guard as well; as rising stars get assigned to the White House, once-frenetic campaign correspondents return to filing placid metro briefs, and political reporters mine a newly ascendant set of sources.
For Bush II, some reporters will be better positioned than others. A handful of scribes insinuated themselves so well into George W. Bush's presidential campaign that they're already angling for scoops and prime background clatter. Foremost among those is Thomas DeFrank, the Washington bureau chief for the Daily News of New York, a man referred to in Bill Minutaglio's Dubya biography as one of the president's "favorites." DeFrank's ties extend deep into the Bush-family coterie: He wrote a book with Bush adviser James Baker and has been close to Vice-President Dick Cheney since the seventies, a relationship DeFrank parlayed into the vice-presidential nominee's first newspaper interview after being selected for the Republican ticket.
I am not now nor have I ever been a journalist, and at the time I had been involved in politics for less than a year, but below was my response...
See next post.
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12.10.05 - 9:27 am | #
Continued from my last post, above:
Did I miss something? Was there a part of this article that didn't make it to the website? Where's the outrage that people who call themselves journalists but who have financial relationships with close advisors of the president-select will report on him? How in the world can we expect those people to be objective?
Not to mention all the reporters that Dubya sweet-talked during the campaign, giving them such cute nicknames. Just palsy-walsy, right? Those people never asked George Bush the questions he should have been asked about his SEC violations for which anyone else would have gone to jail, how he miraculously turned a $600,000 investment into $15 million, the accusations of influence peddling while governor of Texas, and his possible perjury in a case where he is being sued. They should have been fired, not made members of the White House press corps.
Here was the real story of the 2000 campaign: The mainstream media fell hook, line, and sinker for every one of the lies that the Bush "oppo" team told about Al Gore, and did not ask George Bush the questions he should have been hounded to answer.
I expected you, of all magazines, to give the media grief over the way they covered the 2000 election. I am sorely disappointed.
No wonder Brill’s Content failed. Like Woodward, its editors missed the most important part of the the most important story of the new millenium.
Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com
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