I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

boobies!


Gravatarwhat about them?


GravatarWhoops!


GravatarDiIulio laid it all out in black and white. He thus had to be mauled by pit bulls.


Gravatarit's cold here in central cal... a bit too cold


GravatarJay Rosen is a treasure.


It's about time that someone pulled the sheet off of the booby.


Gravatarboobies!


But not the good kind.

Feh.


GravatarWhen I saw Modo recently she talked about when she was a WH correspondent and how she pissed someone off and they yanked her "access."

She said it was actually easier to be a reporter without it.


GravatarI'm still listening to these crazy women who still defend chimpy's war.


Thankfully some of the women are sane. It's still distressing to hear this.


GravatarI feel like I'm talking to myself.


GravatarShe said it was actually easier to be a reporter without it.
four legs good


That's if you wanna, like, report, instead of taking dicktation like JFM et al. And boy they et it all...


GravatarWell. THis is interesting.


The black mothers seem to be against the war, the white women are all "go chimpy!!"


GravatarIt's the journalism that is valued by the people

with entrenched power.


Gravatar***OT***

Is there a version of this site that's text-only, like for the visually-impaired that use speaking software?


Gravataryeah, this was a good piece re: the Woodward myth.

I agree w/whoever posted at Huffington (forgive bad memory), but Woodward really is the "blonde" of so-called journamalism.

and he gets away with being so!!!


GravatarLet's face it. Woodward served the public and the journalism business well in the early-mid 70's.

But, he got a taste, and even back then he was always kinda weird.

Now he's more completely weird, and completely saturated.


GravatarBob Woodward is sliding into irrelevance.


GravatarI couldn't give a shit about anyone in Iraq. They deserve what they get.


GravatarThat's if you wanna, like, report, instead of taking dicktation like JFM et al. And boy they et it all...


And yes, you're correct.

Can someone hit this idiot broadcaster? please.


GravatarWoodward is a useless sack of shit. Nobody should ever buy another one of his books.


GravatarWas it I.F. Stone had the theory everything you needed to know was already in the public record & all you had to do was read it? Not that I'm sure that applies here, especially the way BushCo has eviscerated the very idea of a public record...

I know in small towns the way to know what local gov't is doing is to read the minutes of the County Supervisors & City Hall meetings and just skip the article.


GravatarThe black mothers seem to be against the war, the white women are all "go chimpy!!"

Wow, never woulda guessed that.


GravatarBob Woodward is sliding into irrelevance.


He's an asshole. And now everyone knows it.


GravatarPlan of Attack, Woodward conducted 75 interviews, all of them anonymously sourced except for two -- Bush and Rumsfeld. Nowhere in the book is mention made of, say, Richard Clarke. How are we supposed to evaluate the veracity of this information?

Gee, he just answered his own question, didn't he?


GravatarPardner,

I am pretty sure you can select ALL and copy it into whatever program you use for reading. When you copy, it comes out as ASCII or ANSI Text, either one should work.


GravatarCurly's got game.
.


GravatarSomeone mentioned the other day that Joan Dideon did a piece on Woodward a long time ago calling him out on the fact that he simply doesn't present all the facts.


GravatarWow, never woulda guessed that.


A couple of the white women have spoken up and said that chimpy lied.


It's apparently not a popular sentiment in the room.



Really, it's bloody painful to listen to this stuff. Here are these mothers, who have given up their children, and they're spouting RNC talking points.

It's enough to make me vomit.


GravatarHellfire, I ain't even commented on this thread, and already the gutless little namestealer's starting in. Come on, man, you got a pair, use 'em. Otherwise, have the maturity to not act like a spoiled 13-year-old boy.


GravatarOT, but hey Eli, what does your sister shoot? film or digital?


GravatarWoo-hoo, Sgt Pepper's is on, the worst movie ever made!


GravatarI agree w/whoever posted at Huffington (forgive bad memory), but Woodward really is the "blonde" of so-called journamalism.

and he gets away with being so!!!
Sarah Deere


No doubt. The only difference between Bob Woodward and Kitty Kelley is that as far as we know Bob doesn't wear a dress.


GravatarOtherwise, have the maturity to not act like a spoiled 13-year-old boy.
Matt T

i'm afraid that a spoiled 13 year-old boy would have more class than this gutless coward.

namestealers are psychotic.


GravatarI'm still listening to these crazy women who still defend chimpy's war.

Thankfully some of the women are sane. It's still distressing to hear this.
four legs good


WTF are you guys watching? Whatever it is, I think I'm glad I'm not...


GravatarRE: Copying and pasting to text-speaking software

Yeah, but it would be a lot easier if there were just a page for it. Being for the seeing-imparied, and all.


GravatarOT, but hey Eli, what does your sister shoot? film or digital?

I'm pretty sure she still uses film.


Gravatar How are we supposed to evaluate the veracity of this information?



We're not, and that's the point. We're just supposed to take Booby's word for it.


He's coasted on his watergate fame for WAY too long.


GravatarPlan of Attack, Woodward conducted 75 interviews, all of them anonymously sourced except for two -- Bush and Rumsfeld. Nowhere in the book is mention made of, say, Richard Clarke. How are we supposed to evaluate the veracity of this information?
******************

it isn't even information.


GravatarHere are these mothers, who have given up their children, and they're spouting RNC talking points.

Mmmm! Tasty Kool-Aid! Mmmmmm!


GravatarWTF are you guys watching? Whatever it is, I think I'm glad I'm not...


Nightline is doing a special on mothers who have lost sons in Iraq.


GravatarGod, I hate these fucking trolls. They can all go eat a shit sundae, steaming fresh out of GW Bush's ass.


GravatarThanks, FLG


GravatarJeffraham--bet the Curly critter was happy to have his slave at home today. The pics are adorable


GravatarNow the women are attacking Cindy Sheehan.


GravatarSmarty--would the kitties like some tuna?


GravatarI think the worst thing a reporter can do is become the story. That foggy,intimate, yet taboo line used to haunt real jounalists. Now, it financially attracts reporters like ants to candy.


GravatarYou're welcome Dr. Wu.


This is really hard to listen to.


GravatarOf *course* Woodward doesn't present *all* the facts... I read his Supreme Court book *after* it came out Potter Stewart was one of his primary sources, and it was pretty damn obvious in how Stewart was treated compared to the rest of them.


Gravatar4Legs--did they go out of their way to find the most wingnutty mothers they could?


GravatarI'm in the SHIT-YOUR-NATION room!


GravatarI'm watching the movie "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band," and it is making me wish I had access to powerful drugs.


GravatarTrial transcripts reveal that Tookie Williams mocked the expiration gurgles of one of his victims he had whittled into kindling with his shotgun. Here, we have the real reason Scharzeneggar even pretends to a clemency feint: Those good ol'timey stories from a fellow death technologist. Is there a nascent cage match here?


Gravatar4Legs--did they go out of their way to find the most wingnutty mothers they could?


They're in Ohio.


Enough said, eh?


GravatarBeing the corporate media, I'm sure it's a fair and even-handed treatment of the issue.

HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHA

Sorry, just a little joke there.


GravatarI'm watching the movie "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band," and it is making me wish I had access to powerful drugs.


Dude, are you insane?


Wasn't grading papers enough punishment for one day?


GravatarI'm watching the movie "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band," and it is making me wish I had access to powerful drugs.

e.g., cyanide


GravatarHere are these mothers, who have given up their children, and they're spouting RNC talking points.

for some, the illusory nobility of the war may be the only thing that's keeping their grief from overwhelming them.


Gravatar I'm watching the movie "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band," and it is making me wish I had access to powerful drugs.

Now, come on. There's no need to waste a good magic carpet ride.


GravatarMatt T. would eat a mile of GW's shit just to see where it came from.


GravatarBoo hoo hoo Bob Woodward
Boo hoo hoo Merkel and Rice. To heal the rift they must have shared a dildo.


GravatarI'm watching the movie "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band," and it is making me wish I had access to powerful drugs.

I would think it would make powerful drugs superfluous.


GravatarThers--I'm relieved to learn that I'm not the only one that drinks and grades.


GravatarOne woman just said how pissed she was that 20 young men in Ohio died in one week and chimpy decided to take a 5 week vacation. Inexcusable, she said.


We are so heading for a civil war. Ack.


Gravatarfor some, the illusory nobility of the war may be the only thing that's keeping their grief from overwhelming them.
dan mcenroe


Bingo. And don't think the GOP doesn't know it and exploit it.


Gravatarfor some, the illusory nobility of the war may be the only thing that's keeping their grief from overwhelming them.

And I think there's a similar phenomenon on the troop side.


GravatarSmarty--would the kitties like some tuna?
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere

oh yes!


GravatarIs there a version of this site that's text-only, like for the visually-impaired that use speaking software?

Well, it does have an RSS feed, which is usually stripped down to just text. But that's just for the blog itself. For the comments, I'm stumped. You're probably out of luck there.

By the by, would you be willing to offer some feedback on Web site design? I've been roped into redesigning my church site, and I don't know anybody who uses a screen reader.

Haven't started on it yet, but I did one a few years ago with accessibility in mind, though I don't know how much of my original code is still there.

I'd be ever so grateful for some feedback on your pet peeves, etc.


GravatarSmarty--it's people tuna. Albacore.

4Legs, don't worry, I saved some for Mr. Plushy, too.


GravatarRe: the Gold Star mothers everyone's talking about:

I'm inclined to give them a little slack.

The only thing worse than losing your beloved baby for just cause would be losing him for an outright, money-grubbing lie.

Sometimes, you gotta hold on to whatever makes your life bearable. They believe their sons/daughters died in a just cause because it's too horrible to contemplate the alternative.


GravatarIt was the very wingnutty homophobic paper that made me turn to the drink. Baaaaah. You know who that little fucker cited in his "research"? Fucking Bob Novak in the National Review. Bleah, barf, fuck fuck fuck.


Gravatarfor some, the illusory nobility of the war may be the only thing that's keeping their grief from overwhelming them.


I still can't get over the comment of one woman who said she couldn't believe her son was killed because everyone was praying for him afterall.


Note to moms, prayer is not a replacement for good armour.


GravatarRE: Sight-imparied etc.

The reason I ask is the first dozen pages are the blogoll/31 losers on the left. It's a lot to wade through, whether or not one copies@pastes.


GravatarMatt T. would eat a mile of GW's shit just to see where it came from.
smarty jones

i knew i was going to get name stolen. pyscho coward strikes again!


GravatarI cannot get it out of my head that Booby is a slow witted dufus. How not?

wtf? Has he written a single compelling piece of journalism in decades? Not that I've seen.


GravatarWoodward, and his vile defenders, are worthless whores.

The ducks will dine on their flesh.


GravatarNote to moms, prayer is not a replacement for good armour.
four legs good


Welcome to the faith-based defense initiative.


GravatarSometimes, you gotta hold on to whatever makes your life bearable. They believe their sons/daughters died in a just cause because it's too horrible to contemplate the alternative.

On the other hand, if the levee that holds back reality ever *does* break, they are going to be pissed beyond imagination.


GravatarTrial transcripts reveal that Tookie Williams mocked the expiration gurgles of one of his victims he had whittled into kindling with his shotgun.
-james jesus rimbaud
***************

tookie was a bad motherfucker. i'm pretty sure that everyone is aware of that.


GravatarYou know who that little fucker cited in his "research"? Fucking Bob Novak in the National Review. Bleah, barf, fuck fuck fuck.


I'm sorry, but I just spit Dr. Pepper all over my flat screen.

That's hilarious. And frightening. Okay, not so funny.


Gravatar Otherwise, have the maturity to not act like a spoiled 13-year-old boy.
Matt T


Why do you assume he's not? Most TrOoLz are at about that age, either biologically, or mantally.


GravatarLolly--I'd be inclined to agree with your assessment. Granted, many of these women won't learn from the experience as to what's true and what's not, but it's irrelevant when you've lost a child.


Gravatarlolly,
Amen to that. There is nothing in this world more heartbreaking than a mother who has to bury her child. My cousin died 20 years ago in a car wreck, and my aunt's still a wreck over it. My uncle died of cancer about 10 years ago, and my poor Mommaw still thinks she "could've done something". I can't even imagine that kind of pain.


GravatarThey believe their sons/daughters died in a just cause because it's too horrible to contemplate the alternative.
lolly


GravatarColonel Westhusing wondered if honor was possible in a war like Iraq before he blew his brains out. Westhusing - a military "ethicist" and devout Catholic - well, his vacuous belief in wartime "ethics" left him just a dissillusioned as those silver pieces that Judas got for betraying Judas.

They both went outside of the walls of the community and hung themselves.


GravatarI'm in the SHIT-YOUR-NATION room!
Folf Witzer

scatology rating: 9

overall humor rating: 8

congratulations!


GravatarThey believe their sons/daughters died in a just cause because it's too horrible to contemplate the alternative.
lolly
focus


Somewhere Karl Rove is reading that and grinning from ear to ear.


GravatarSmarty--you're a racehorse. Can't you just trample the psycho?

Oh, sorry, I just realized that would mean disturbing the kitties.


GravatarCan you imagine Dwight Eisenhower's, or FDR's, or JFK's dalliances being noddingly kept off of not only CNN's front desk, but also the Director of the FBI's top priority list?

Jeez, they not only scooped up young Ms. Lewinsky off of the street, but questioned her like the goddamned Republic depended on her weeping answers.

And goddammned Henry Hyde later admits that it was all a joke and payback for Nixon.

Sometimes I really do hate my country's representatives.


GravatarI can't take this.


They're still talking about how their kids died for a "higher purpose."

Oh, fuck. One just said her son's "glory would be great."


GravatarI forgot that George Burns sings with 11 year old girls in this. Hooray!


GravatarIs that Gordo's picture on the right hand column of the blog? Good God, what is Dad trying to do to us?!


GravatarDoozer,
I do hope guys like this weasel are teenagers. It worries me to no end to think an actual grown-up who can buy guns and alcohol and drive a car an' everything thinks that is the hieght of wit and cutting political debate. I mean, I know schools are in troubled state, but come on, that's just a frightening stroke to ponder.


GravatarOh, fuck. One just said her son's "glory would be great."
four legs good


I hope she doesn't start talking about the 72 virgins, or they'll take her off to Gitmo.


GravatarOhio is a fucked up place.


That's all I'm saying.


GravatarNight, Moonbats


GravatarI forgot that George Burns sings with 11 year old girls in this. Hooray!


I have blotted that movie from my memory.


GravatarNightline is heartbreaking.

If these people knew the truth their souls would die.


GravatarDoozer--not only that, most 13 year olds are toilet trained. The trolls, not so much.


GravatarNightline is heartbreaking.


I feel so bad for these women and yet I wish I could fucking slap them silly.


GravatarThat's interesting about Tookie Williams mocking the dying... remember W's take on his fellow 'born aginner' Karla Faye? Shocked even a callow twit like Tucker Carlson, so it did...


GravatarI hope she doesn't start talking about the 72 virgins, or they'll take her off to Gitmo.


She lives in Ohio, which is the next best thing (IMHO).


GravatarSomewhere Karl Rove is reading that and grinning from ear to ear.
Dr. Wu


he's not at a cemetary, and the memory of fleeting pride fades, but not the loss of the heart of your your soul-


GravatarSpeaking of the Gold Star mothers, the excellent country singing quartet The Statler Brothers have an awesome-with-a-capital-A song along that lines. It's called "More Than A Name On A Wall". Sometimes, when the truth needs to be told, close harmonies are the best way to do it.


Gravatarnight everybody.

don't mind the name stealing doofus.


GravatarIs that Gordo's picture on the right hand column of the blog? Good God, what is Dad trying to do to us?!


It looks like that fucking loser from the Nokia commercial.


GravatarBlind faith in authority is a scary thing. It's not that these folks have looked at the evidence and decided that the Bush administration isn't incompetent, craven and corrupt--it's that they'd never even consider the possibility.


GravatarThe reason I ask is the first dozen pages are the blogoll/31 losers on the left. It's a lot to wade through, whether or not one copies@pastes.

Now, would a "skip navigation" link work with that? Because that's easy to do.


GravatarMatt T--just as a curiosity, did you or your bro play on that piece?


GravatarSmarty Jones - Matt T. is being namestolen. I suspect it is the craven troll that has raised your ire.

Fourlegsgood - Ohio is not particularly wingnutty. Except maybe Cincinnati, home of Fifth Third Bank, chili on spaghetti, and too many Tafts.


GravatarSmarty Jones - Matt T. is being namestolen. I suspect it is the craven troll that has raised your ire.

Fourlegsgood - Ohio is not particularly wingnutty. Except maybe Cincinnati, home of Fifth Third Bank, chili on spaghetti, and too many Tafts.


GravatarSallyh: Jeffraham--bet the Curly critter was happy to have his slave at home today. The pics are adorable

Thanks. He's not been more than a few feet away from me 95% of the day. Right now, he's back on the bed, napping on my leg pillow.
.


GravatarOh great.


Baba Wawa is doing a special called..


"Heaven.

WHere is it and how do we get there?"


I fucking kid you not.


Gravatar"Heaven.

WHere is it and how do we get there?"

I fucking kid you not.
four legs good


Here...LET ME HELP


GravatarFourlegsgood - Ohio is not particularly wingnutty. Except maybe Cincinnati, home of Fifth Third Bank, chili on spaghetti, and too many Tafts.


I'll take your word for it.


GravatarAhianne, hillbilly

the name stealer got us both. my first time!


Gravatar"Heaven. Where is it and how do we get there."

Baba wawa will tell us next teusday.
I'm like a kid waiting for xmas.


Gravatar4Legs--sounds as if it's time for Baba Wawa to retire.

That's mysticism, not journalism.


GravatarOh great.
Baba Wawa is doing a special called..
"Heaven.
WHere is it and how do we get there?"
I fucking kid you not.
four legs good


It's good to be in Alaska, local PBS is doing an old Great Performances, Eric Clapton and Cream at Albert Hall.

Much better than Baba Wawa.


Gravatarthe name stealer got us both. my first time!

I remember my first name stealer like it was yesterday....


GravatarJeffraham--do you have to return to the slave labor camp tomorrow?


Gravatarthe name stealer got us both. my first time!
smarty jones


Congrats!

My first namestealer informed the thread that I was late for my shift at White Castle. Which wasn't far off from my early 20s lifestyle...


GravatarHeaven's just a sin away... at least, that's what I heard on the radio...


GravatarThat's mysticism, not journalism.


It's insanity is what it is.


GravatarMy first namestealer was the Poop Troll. Fortunately everyone can spot him ten miles away.


GravatarJeffraham--I'll have to download some of the pics later of the kitties helping us put lights on the tree. They were SO helpful...


GravatarWhite Castle, mmmmmmm.....


Gravatarthe name stealer got us both. my first time!
smarty jones

Congrats!

My first namestealer informed the thread that I was late for my shift at White Castle. Which wasn't far off from my early 20s lifestyle...
Catholic Jackson

Haloscan just caused me to namesteal myself. D'oh! .


GravatarOkay, now the women are saying that we should just crush the iraqis.




GravatarCan you imagine Dwight Eisenhower's, or FDR's, or JFK's dalliances being noddingly kept off of not only CNN's front desk, but also the Director of the FBI's top priority list?

Nope. Then we had a FREE PRESS. And they had to fight agianst their masters. It's all a corporate mess these days.

I dont't think there is much honor among journalists these days. Sy Hersh may be the exception to the rule. I dare someone prove me wrong.


GravatarIt is unseemly to mark the speech impediment of a woman who has been dead for a number of years.


GravatarI've never had my name stolen. It's either because I rarely comment or the trolls are afraid of Race Bannon.


GravatarJeffraham--I'll have to download some of the pics later of the kitties helping us put lights on the tree. They were SO helpful...


Kitties enjoy being helpful.


GravatarBuzz Bomb--well, we can certainly smell him.


GravatarIt's either because I rarely comment or the trolls are afraid of Race Bannon.


I think it's fear of Haji.


He's got a mean bite.


GravatarJonny Q--what WAS the deal between Race and Dr. Quest, anyway?


GravatarNo, it's a guy named rob port.


GravatarBush administration isn't incompetent, craven and corrupt--it's that they'd never even consider the possibility.
Dr. Wu


they, are a variable.


Gravatar4Legs--I think you're thinking of Bandit.


GravatarWhat happened to the Beethoven troll, anyway? I miss the daily music history lesson. I hope it hasn't gone deaf or something.


Gravatar Jonny Q--what WAS the deal between Race and Dr. Quest, anyway?
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere


All explained in an episode of "Harvey Birdman."


GravatarBack to the original topic- I'm still annoyed at the WAPO for keeping Booby on the payroll.


It's false advertising.


GravatarSallyh,
What piece?

And since the cat's basically out of the bag, what gives, man? I tool around here for a year, never name-stolen. Not once. Like, third or fourth night back, boom. Figure that out.


GravatarSmarty, Matt T--hey, I get to join you in the namestealers' circle. My night is complete.


GravatarIf the American press conservative, that's because America is conservative. It's not like the press descends unbidden from another planet, after all. The press really is Pravda: it serves the social function to preserve the society that institutes it. Business news in the US, for one example, gives scant attention to labor relations, emphasizing instead reports on company profits, wealth and production metrics of that nature.


GravatarMatt--the one you listed, 'More Than a Name on the Wall.'


GravatarChina and US ganged up to block progress at UN Environment summit in Montreal just as Chinese were shooting enviromental protestors in China.


Gravataryou people are making me hungry, and it's too late and too cold to slog down to the white castle on 21st...


Gravatar4Legs--I think you're thinking of Bandit.


No, Haji was a biter too.


He was fond of tearing throats out- of course they edited that out of the cartoons.


GravatarThe woman suffer from this stessor: They offered up their sons to the Bush War machine. It's still a blood ritual even if they didn't read the fine print disclosures. They will suffer not only earthy perdition, but eternal as well. They have made a God out of the state and offered human sacrifice. They weep the tears of victims even as they are transgessors.


GravatarIf the American press conservative, that's because America is conservative.

I'd say it's because the shareholders and management of the media companies are conservative. I don't think one can draw any conclusions about the country as a whole.


GravatarJay--I'm guessing Race was the top.


Gravataryou people are making me hungry, and it's too late and too cold to slog down to the white castle on 21st...


I don't know how anyone could eat at white castle.

That place is foul.


GravatarOh, hell. It sure did. I should know by now that if a comment has me thinking "WTF? X sez Y??" we probably have a slimy little namestealer underfoot.


GravatarNo, it's a guy named rob port.

You'd think he wouldn't be a righty. Maybe he's overcompensating?


GravatarJonny Q--what WAS the deal between Race and Dr. Quest, anyway?

WHAT ARE YOU INSINUATING ABOUT MY DAD?


(Hugging Bandit fiercely)


GravatarMatt + Smarty--it's the end of the semester and the kids are out of school. We get a lot of nonsense once they're done flunking yet another term.


GravatarThers -- there are certain films, like the one you're watching, and Tron, and pretty much the entire output of wossname what did the Red Shoe Diaries, that are worthless when straight but suddenly become Oscar-quality films after about a joint or two of standard Colombian (or three hits of good hash). Which leads me to think that whoever made those things must have been themselves wasted much of the time.

When I saw Modo recently she talked about when she was a WH correspondent and how she pissed someone off and they yanked her "access."

She said it was actually easier to be a reporter without it.
four legs good | Email | 12.10.05 - 12:00 am | #


Real reporters aren't in it for the starfucking, either actual or metaphorical. They ignore the big honchos unless they want to embarrass 'em with some nasty information. Instead, they focus on the grunt workers: Cleaning staff, maintenance workers, folks like that. Maybe some of the lower-echelon staffers. Those are the folks who know where the bodies are buried, and they often have a score or two to settle with their bosses.


Gravatar don't know how anyone could eat at white castle.


It helps to be drunk.


GravatarThat's enough for tonight. Adios.


Gravatar4 legs - white castle is meat that you don't need to chew. what could be better?


GravatarSallyh,
Lord, no. I can't exactly recall when it came out, but I think it was the Statlers' last sizable hit. I'm thinking late '80s, early '90s. I was still in junior high.


Gravatar(Hugging Bandit fiercely)


Someone alert Santorum.


Gravatar4Legs--I think you have to have been born in Chicago to appreciate the White Castle experience. You need to develop an immunity to the toxins in them from an early age.


Gravatar4 legs - white castle is meat that you don't need to chew. what could be better?


Ewwwwwww.


Gravatar4Legs--I think you have to have been born in Chicago to appreciate the White Castle experience. You need to develop an immunity to the toxins in them from an early age.


When I first moved to NY I went to try this "white castle" I'd heard so much about.

I about barfed.


GravatarJay C--great, now I need to go rent the Harvey Birdman DVDs, on a weekend when I have a ton of stuff to finish. Thanks a lot, dude.


GravatarWhat about Bob Woodward's strange, slow way of speaking? Some times on TV he seems like he is drugged, in pain or under the influence of MS/Parkinson's or some neurological condidtion.

Anyone have any answers or gossip? Is he on borrowed time, or just not thinking straight?

i do think Woodward felt compelled to say "I was fisrt on the list" of journalists to be leaked Valerie Plame's real job, beating out the NYTimes. I wonder if Judy Miller ever tried to seduce Bob back in the day.....


GravatarYou'd think he wouldn't be a righty.

he looks smug enough.

i don't think there's a force on this earth that could entice me to read the musings of a Republican, Atheist, Investigator.

OK, maybe some free white castles.


GravatarI ate a couple of sliders at White Castle once. Once was enough.


Gravatardon't know how anyone could eat at white castle.

Strom discovered that gerbils are attracted to white castle suppositories.
-Liddy Dole


GravatarOkay, crazy woman saying that her son died as a hero and she will NOT tolerate hearing someone say different.


We need to outlaw kool-aid.


Gravatar4Legs--she's not getting it. No one is saying her son isn't a hero.


GravatarWhat about Bob Woodward's strange, slow way of speaking?


He's always talked like that.


GravatarIf the American press is conservative, that's because America is conservative.

If the American press is conservative, that's the absolute worst thing that could possibly happen to the American press.

I think, anyways.

Respect mah conservative authoritah!


GravatarMatt T--you playing out much?


Gravatar They weep the tears of victims even as they are transgessors.

I take it you've never known anybody who's buried a child. Because that's the only way you could say something so cold.


GravatarDo they still call them "Transfer Tubes"?


GravatarWow, almost hurricane-strength winds out here on the rocky NE coast today.

Our bird feeder is scattered in pieces.
What will the squirrels eat now?

That's to ponder for tomorrow.


Gravatarlaptop battery's fading. that's my cue to go to bed. night all, sleep well.


GravatarI ate a couple of sliders at White Castle once. Once was enough.
Ahianne, hillbilly


Is that cause hillbilly's are partial to Krystal burgers?


Gravatar4Legs--she's not getting it. No one is saying her son isn't a hero.


She's saying that anyone that disses the war or chimpy is dissing her son.

She had a really bad haircut too.

But I digress.


GravatarGoodnight, moonbats. Don't let the trolls bite.


GravatarGood night, Madam Ahianne.


GravatarIt's all too sad for words.

Good night people.


Gravatar It worries me to no end to think an actual grown-up who can buy guns and alcohol and drive a car an' everything thinks that is the hieght of wit and cutting political debate.
...
Matt T


I guess you didn't see that "Drunks with guns" picture that was going around the internets post-hurricane Rita, eh?


GravatarGood night to you, Jonny Quest.


Gravatar
White Castle, mmmmmmm.....


Gonna have 4 of em with extra mustard and crash.

On that happy note, buh bye!


GravatarSallyh: Jeffraham--do you have to return to the slave labor camp tomorrow?

Not until Sunday, 11:30 a.m., blessedly. No visit from ladyfriend tonight (she has to get up @ 3:00a to take her parents to the airport), and tomorrow night's up in the air.
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GravatarGoodnight, moonbats. Don't let the trolls bite.
Ahianne, hillbilly


They can bite my ass.


GravatarI'm thinking about opening a White Castle Franchise.


GravatarSleep well, bigvic.


GravatarIn DC we had Little Taverns. Square burgers with onions cooked in. Bagfulloburgers after the bar mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


Gravatar"I take it you've never known anybody
who has buried a child"

You take it wrong. I've also had the pleasure of playing poker with two Iraq War Pt. Deux veterans who enthralled me with tales of collateral damage. You become the monster so the monster will not break you. Lost souls who traded in their humanity for patrtiotism.


GravatarI'm thinking about opening a White Castle Franchise.


Okay. The food is pretty sucky in Pittsburgh already.


Gravatar I take it you've never known anybody who's buried a child. Because that's the only way you could say something so cold.
hamletta


i have actually heard the sound of a mother's heart break (delivered one causation myself) because of such. i would wish it upon absolutely no one.


GravatarIf the American press is conservative, that's because America is conservative.

The American Press is whatever it's paid to be. When the poor, working and middle classes can afford to pay for it, we'll get a press that reflects us.


GravatarIn DC we had Little Taverns. Square burgers with onions cooked in. Bagfulloburgers after the bar mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Hand-patted by surly old German ladies!


GravatarI feel bad for these women- but the expressions of religiosity were just appalling.


GravatarWe don't even have White Castle in Calif. Got In-N-Out Burger, though.

Yeah, gotta love that name.


Gravatar"I take it you've never known anybody
who has buried a child"


I had the misfortune of meeting the parents of a friend who died at the age of 27.

They were wingnut Christians and meeting them made it perfectly clear why he became a drunk who decided to walk in front of a car one night.

His girlfriend couldn't come to the funeral because they weren't married and his parents wouldn't allow it.


GravatarGonna have 4 of em with extra mustard and crash.

On that happy note, buh bye!
bigvic


Good nite bigvic.

btw, 4 is just an appetizer.


GravatarWow... via Josh:

Bush-administration officials privately threatened organizers of the U.N. Climate Change Conference, telling them that any chance there might’ve been for the United States to sign on to the Kyoto global-warming protocol would be scuttled if they allowed Bill Clinton to speak at the gathering today in Montreal, according to a source involved with the negotiations who spoke to New York Magazine on condition of anonymity.


The fucking NERVE of these people. Will they never get over the Clenis?


GravatarI take it you've never known anybody who's buried a child.

That's just too
hard to talk about here.


Gravatar"White Hassle" by Adrenaline OD is probably the best song in any genre ever recorded by human beings ever.


GravatarSallyh,
Nah. Heart's not in it these days.


GravatarWhite Castles...one of the very few things I miss about the Great White North.


GravatarHi, all.

What's it like posting here this late? I'm an early bird...

/hits booze


GravatarWhite Castles...one of the very few things I miss about the Great White North.


Can't you buy them in supermarkets now?


GravatarUh-huh...

From Capitol Hill Blue

The Rant
Bush on the Constitution: 'It's just a goddamned piece of paper'
By DOUG THOMPSON
Dec 9, 2005, 07:53




Last month, Republican Congressional leaders filed into the Oval Office to meet with President George W. Bush and talk about renewing the controversial USA Patriot Act.

Several provisions of the act, passed in the shell shocked period immediately following the 9/11 terrorist attacks, caused enough anger that liberal groups like the American Civil Liberties Union had joined forces with prominent conservatives like Phyllis Schlafly and Bob Barr to oppose renewal.

GOP leaders told Bush that his hardcore push to renew the more onerous provisions of the act could further alienate conservatives still mad at the President from his botched attempt to nominate White House Counsel Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court.

“I don’t give a goddamn,” Bush retorted. “I’m the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way.”

“Mr. President,” one aide in the meeting said. “There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution.”

“Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,” Bush screamed back. “It’s just a goddamned piece of paper!”

I’ve talked to three people present for the meeting that day and they all confirm that the President of the United States called the Constitution “a goddamned piece of paper.”

And, to the Bush Administration, the Constitution of the United States is little more than toilet paper stained from all the shit that this group of power-mad despots have dumped on the freedoms that “goddamned piece of paper” used to guarantee.

Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, while still White House counsel, wrote that the “Constitution is an outdated document.”

Put aside, for a moment, political affiliation or personal beliefs. It doesn’t matter if you are a Democrat, Republican or Independent. It doesn’t matter if you support the invasion or Iraq or not. Despite our differences, the Constitution has stood for two centuries as the defining document of our government, the final source to determine – in the end – if something is legal or right.

Every federal official – including the President – who takes an oath of office swears to “uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia says he cringes when someone calls the Constitution a “living document.”

“"Oh, how I hate the phrase we have—a 'living document,’” Scalia says. “We now have a Constitution that means whatever we want it to mean. The Constitution is not a living organism, for Pete's sake.”


GravatarCan't you buy them in supermarkets now?
SWR

Is that really the same thing?


Gravatar"White Hassle" by Adrenaline OD is probably the best song in any genre ever recorded by human beings ever.
Thers


Better than The Bertha Butt Boogie?


Gravatarbtw, 4 is just an appetizer.
Barry from Alaska


Word. A mere bed time snack.

Peace out, friends.


GravatarCapitol Hill Blue is worthless as a reliable source of fact.


GravatarUh-huh...

From Capitol Hill Blue


You know the old saying about how if it sound's too good to be true, it probably is? I get that feeling about CHB.


GravatarAnti-Fascist:

Don't. Buy. It.

Sounds like a bad made-for-TV script...


GravatarBob Woodward is a National Treasure.
If it wasn't for Bob Woodward we would have seen tens of thousands more dead in Vietnam.


GravatarBob Woodward is a National Treasure.
If it wasn't for Bob Woodward we would have seen tens of thousands more dead in Vietnam.


Think of it this way.

In the 60s, Jefferson Airplane was writing good music. In the 80s, they were turning out stuff like "We Built this City on Rock and Roll".

Woodward has entered his "We Built this City" phase.


GravatarWoodward has entered his "We Built this City" phase.

Oh, man. That's...just...the perfect analogy.


GravatarUnder the new tax bill, those making 50k or less would get 11 dollars of relief.
Is that good or bad?


Gravatar"White Hassle" by Adrenaline OD is probably the best song in any genre ever recorded by human beings ever.


Being hopelessly unhip, I don't know what the hell you're talking about.


GravatarCan't you buy them in supermarkets now?
SWR


Yeah, and if you steam 'em they're not totally sucky. They used to be sold frozen by some company that bought 'em from White castle, in the regular boxes. I guess WC decided if there was money in it, they'd get in on that themselves, and took it over. Now they come in a box of 6, instead of 10, and in plastic bags, instead of wax paper, and they...just don't taste right. My feeling is it was the cardboard and wax paper that did it. Or maybe it's a numerological thing, and 10 is White Castle's prime number, oor something...


GravatarBob Woodward is a National Treasure.

Hello? Is this thing on???

Yeah...obstructing justice is so damn honorable. Just give him the Judy Miller award for achievement in the field of excellence.


GravatarWoodward has entered his "We Built this City" phase.

"Wired" was his White Rabbit?


GravatarIn the 60s, Jefferson Airplane was writing good music. In the 80s, they were turning out stuff like "We Built this City on Rock and Roll".

Woodward has entered his "We Built this City" phase.
SWR


Jefferson Airplane/Starship were also seriously milking past glories churning out their 80s crap, and still being given regular blow jobs in the San Francisco music press by dutiful local music journos. Woodward is also coasting on past glories, and is still being orally serviced by his employer, the Post.


Gravatarjgh--only certain classes of individuals getting the $11, which won't even fill my Corolla.


GravatarSWR: strangely fitting, that.


GravatarDoozer--uh...10 isn't prime...


GravatarMatt T--little bro feels the same way. Course, he's in his second year of med school, which is nothing if not exhausting and mind numbing.


Gravatar
Being hopelessly unhip, I don't know what the hell you're talking about.


I'm not hip either. It's an obscure and now quite old song by an obscure but awesome New Jersey punk band. It details what it's like to be coming home sort of drunk late at night and wanting something to eat but nothing is open and you only have like 85 cents, so you go to White Castle and experience the weirdness that is late night White Castle. It's like an opera in a minute and thirty seconds, but much better, because it's not actually an opera.


GravatarNow they come in a box of 6, instead of 10, and in plastic bags, instead of wax paper, and they...just don't taste right.


Hoo boy.

Gross.


GravatarI'm not hip either. It's an obscure and now quite old song by an obscure but awesome New Jersey punk band.

What are the odds on they're having a myspace page?


GravatarIt details what it's like to be coming home sort of drunk late at night and wanting something to eat but nothing is open and you only have like 85 cents, so you go to White Castle and experience the weirdness that is late night White Castle. It's like an opera in a minute and thirty seconds, but much better, because it's not actually an opera.


Okay. I'll take your word for it.

Hey, do your students know anything about your politics? Is it possible the little wingnut wrote that to freak you out?


GravatarI still can't get over that the bushies were trying to keep Clinton from speaking.


I think it's time for Clinton to start publicly humiliating chimpy in public.


GravatarI am not happy about Painkiller Jane.


There does not appear to be any creatures or eatage.


GravatarOkay, where did everyone go?


GravatarOkay, try this for size...

US Congressman Henry Hyde...

"There are things in the Constitution that have been overtaken by events and by time. Declaration of War is one of them. There are things no longer relevant to a modern society."


Gravatar"There are things in the Constitution that have been overtaken by events and by time. Declaration of War is one of them. There are things no longer relevant to a modern society."


Yeah. Fat-fuck congressmen with shit-for-brains are no longer relevant to a modern society.


Gravatar It's like an opera in a minute and thirty seconds, but much better, because it's not actually an opera.
Thers



There is something inherently right about anything that is not really an opera...


GravatarSpeaking of punk rawk (well, new wave punk),

Has anyone heard the new Gang of Four album? They've re-recorded a lot of their old stuff.

I heard "At Home, He's a Tourist" the other day, and was pissed; cause I thought that it was just another shitty cover.

I think that it was pretty clever idea that the GOF would do that; but they can't sound like they use'ta.

(still like "I Love A Man In Uniform")


GravatarHey, do your students know anything about your politics?

No, I'm relentlessly non-political in the classroom. Mostly to keep my blood pressure in check.

That's actually gotten harder, mostly because of the relentless assault on common sense over the past several years. Evolution is probably the best example. I keep getting students who want to argue obviously insane bullshit, but saying "evolution is right, Eve never rode a dinosaur" has become a very political thing to say. Stating the facts has in many ways become dangerously political in the classroom.

It's a fucked-up state of affairs and it's made it harder to do my main job, which is to help them write well enough so they don't look like total junkies when they put together a job letter.


GravatarUnder the new tax bill, those making 50k or less would get 11 dollars of relief.
Is that good or bad?
jgh


good! white castles all around- but after you open your property tax bill


GravatarDoozer--uh...10 isn't prime...
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere


OK, Choice, then...


GravatarIt's a fucked-up state of affairs and it's made it harder to do my main job, which is to help them write well enough so they don't look like total junkies when they put together a job letter.


Good luck. I was rather appalled at some of the stuff that crossed my desk during our last search. Including one young punk who trumpeted his connections to chimpy on his resume.

My new minion can actually write a decent letter.


GravatarI'm still here, flg -- just now watching the Nightline epi; it comes on at an odd time here in Gnashvegas.
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Gravatargood! white castles all around- but after you open your property tax bill


You can have mine. Ick.


GravatarI'm still here, flg -- just now watching the Nightline epi; it comes on at an odd time here in Gnashvegas.


I suggest you drink while you watch it.


Gravatar4Legs--lack of creatures and eatage does not make me happy.


Gravatar4Legs--lack of creatures and eatage does not make me happy.

Yeah. What the fuck were they thinking?


GravatarRegarding Nightline...

I'm glad the sons of all those occupation-supporting mothers were killed. I have no empathy, sympathy, or respect for them.

If they truly think their precious little offspring died for a noble cause, why don't they enlist and help finish the "mission" for them?

Stupid goddamn sheep.


Gravatargood heavens, how did things get so...fucked.

Tomorrow, my bit of normalcy: going to watch my g'dtr try to get her second belt in Tai Kwon Do. Going out to dinner tomorrow w/son, dtr in law (such a cold term for such a lovely young woman) and g'kids re: son's new (well-paying!) job, and Sunday to go get the Christmas tree & take annual tour of this place jam-packed w/more ornaments that one would imagine possible.

Escapism, for a while. It will be nice that way.


Gravatarfour legs good: I suggest you drink while you watch it.

Sage advice -- in fact, I did crack the evening's first beer when it came on. I remembered that I won't want to drink tomorrow night unless I start really, really early (like 5-6 p.m.), since I have to get up for work Sunday.

Of course, my attention's not been solidly on the TV, too... I did catch the "5 weeks vacation" comment just now, though, and the smattering of applause that was shortened in editing.
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GravatarI'm glad the sons of all those occupation-supporting mothers were killed. I have no empathy, sympathy, or respect for them.


That's a little harsh.


GravatarAnti-Fascist

Never - EVER - be glad anyone's child is killed in war, or for any other reason, though perhaps especially war. And a war like this one - as so many of them are - perhaps ALL of them - based on lies and greed.

IMHO.


GravatarAmazing Hand Paintings

http://bravepilgrim.blogspot.com...- paintings.html


GravatarI don't even want wingnuts kids killed in this misbegotten clusterfuck of chimpy's.


Gravatar4Legs--lack of creatures and eatage does not make me happy.
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere


I was trying to explain Sci-Fi liveblogging, and "eatage" and "Hot Science Babe" and all like that there to my older sis on the phone the other day. When I finished, she asked me "what language was that?"...


GravatarIs there a version of this site that's text-only, like for the visually-impaired that use speaking software?

If you have a Mac, you can create a simple automator action script that
- Selects the frontmost Safari window
- Grabs the text from the web page
- Speaks the text
Use of the script would require some sight however as you'd need to be able to click the comments link. Once there, the script speaks the text (including the date and commenter after each post).

An Applescript could be a more sophisticated solution as you could perform some filtering (to eliminate dates for example)


GravatarLife is a rock and the radio rolled me....


ah, a nice night. Good night bats


GravatarJP, I'm watching Nightline, too. Heartwrenching. Some of these women are our age. I've got a goddaughter their sons' age, the daughter of my best friend.

My stepbrother was about that age when he died, though not in a war.

God bless all those women, and all the mothers everywhere.


GravatarI say kill 'em all, let God sort 'em out.

It's not my fault that they're so damn dumb. The facts are there to see, but they want to be blind.

Of course, every empire needs its willing subjects. Luckily, there are plenty of stupid serfs to be found in the good ol' USofA.


GravatarI don't even want wingnuts kids killed in this misbegotten clusterfuck of chimpy's.
four legs good

I do.


GravatarI'm glad the sons of all those occupation-supporting mothers were killed. I have no empathy, sympathy, or respect for them.

If they truly think their precious little offspring died for a noble cause, why don't they enlist and help finish the "mission" for them?

Stupid goddamn sheep.



Anti-Fascist


Dear self-righteous asshole:

Go piss and moan about poor youth that were trying to find a way to pay for college somewhere else; you selfish clod.


GravatarI don't even want wingnuts kids killed in this misbegotten clusterfuck of chimpy's.
four legs good

I do.
Anti-Fascist


I smell Cheetos...


GravatarI was trying to explain Sci-Fi liveblogging, and "eatage" and "Hot Science Babe" and all like that there to my older sis on the phone the other day. When I finished, she asked me "what language was that?"...


I am rather proud of myself for coining the term "eatage".... I was explaining sci-fi blogging to a young lady in my office and I told her all about Hammerhead Terror... by the time I finished we were both laughing so hard we were crying.

she especially enjoyed my descripion of how the hammerhead ate the mad scientist's arm off right when he was trying to mate him to the hot science babe.


GravatarIgnore namestealing children, and go look at Curly, instead.
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GravatarWhen I finished, she asked me "what language was that?"...


It's the language of Atriots!!!!


GravatarIgnore namestealing children, and go look at Curly, instead.

Awwww, Curly is making muffins.


GravatarI smell Cheetos...
Doozer, (truncated

I smell stupid Americans, willing to "die for our flag."

Go piss and moan about poor youth that were trying to find a way to pay for college somewhere else; you selfish clod.
Zap Rowsdower, young'n

"Gee, how do I pay for college. I know! I'll go kill people of another skin color and religious belief because my government told me too."

They don't use the term "gung-ho" for nothing.

Empire. Same as it ever was.


GravatarRegarding Nightline...

I'm glad the sons of all those occupation-supporting mothers were killed. I have no empathy, sympathy, or respect for them.



would you be GLAD if your 18 year old daughter died doing what she thought was right by protesting this war?


GravatarI don't even want wingnuts kids killed in this misbegotten clusterfuck of chimpy's.
four legs good


Not even those blond twin NeoNazi Pop singers?


GravatarNot even those blond twin NeoNazi Pop singers?


Hmmmmm. That's a hard one.


Nope. I wouldn't want them to become martyrs.


GravatarNot even those blond twin NeoNazi Pop singers?


THough I wouldn't be sad if they spontaneously combusted or fell into a hell mouth.


GravatarNope. I wouldn't want them to become martyrs.
four legs good


Agreed, but mom and pop ought to be fair fodder.


GravatarThat RNC 'White Flag' web ad really pissed me off when I saw it today.

Here's my answer: 'Blood'


GravatarKilling other people is never honorable, no matter what the cause.

If you accept killing for one thing, you'll accept it for anything.

No wonder us humans have lost our way.


GravatarJeffraham--interesting, Curly's twin Mikey is doing the same thing in the cradle next to me


GravatarI'm watching this show Ghost Hunters on sci-fi channel.

Freaky.


GravatarAgreed, but mom and pop ought to be fair fodder.


They can go in the hell mouth too.


Gravatar"Gee, how do I pay for college. I know! I'll go kill people of another skin color and religious belief because my government told me too."

They don't use the term "gung-ho" for nothing.

Empire. Same as it ever was.
Anti-Fascist

you idiot...most of them had no fucking idea that was how they'd have to pay for their chance at getting out of endless poverty. Fuck you. Never blame the soldiers - NEVER. We have no fucking idea - except for those of us who have served in the military - what these people have to go through. Shut your pie hole unless you, too, have served. Then...I would listen.


GravatarAn Applescript could be a more sophisticated solution as you could perform some filtering (to eliminate dates for example)

Uh, dude, I'm as big an Apple lover as the next gal, but that's a tall order. If it's so easy, why not write it yourself and offer it up to all Web users everywhere?

And it's kind of irrelevant to the original poster, who was already using a screen reader. I feel it's the obligation of the site designer (which Atrios is not) to design accesibility into the site, not that of the impaired reader to write scripts in order to read the content.

I mean, you wouldn't ask somebody in a wheelchair to jack himself up a flight of stairs, would you?


GravatarI mean, you wouldn't ask somebody in a wheelchair to jack himself up a flight of stairs, would you?


If it were a wingnut bushie fleeing from ravenous creature, why yes.


Gravatar"We have no fucking idea"
Sarah Deere

At least you admit your ignorance.


GravatarThat RNC 'White Flag' web ad really pissed me off when I saw it today.


Me too.


Well, let them own their little clusterfuck.


GravatarI went to university and got a Bachelor's Degree. Cost me $32,000 in Federal Student Loans. I didn't have to kill a single innocent child or woman in a distant country for it either.

Though, I suspect once the international bankers fuck the economy over again just like they did in 1929, I'll be paying for it in ways I don't even want to think about.


GravatarNo wonder us humans have lost our way.
Anti-Fascist


From what, pray tell?

Lemme guess...you're a John Zerzan/anarchist/primitavist-type, right?


Gravatarfunny

http://bravepilgrim.blogspot.com...5/12/ funny.html


GravatarGeez, you people are stupid.

Keep on swallowing the "left-right" bullshit. That'll get you far.


GravatarI think Cynthia McFadden was about to shed a tear of her own there, at the end...
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GravatarI went to university and got a Bachelor's Degree. Cost me $32,000 in Federal Student Loans. I didn't have to kill a single innocent child or woman in a distant country for it either.

well, great. compassion is not your long suit, eh?

You know, the world does not have to be this way. We have the power to change it. Human life does not have to ben brutish, nasty, and short (or however that goes). We really can help one another get through it all. We just choose not to. Shame, really.


GravatarAnti-F: what *should* we be doing?


GravatarI mean, you wouldn't ask somebody in a wheelchair to jack himself up a flight of stairs, would you?

Um, didn't Ted Stevens cover that in the transportation bill.

Bridge to Nowhere -- check.
Wheelchair jackerupper --- check.


GravatarGeez, you people are stupid.

Keep on swallowing the "left-right" bullshit. That'll get you far.
Anti-Fascist


and "where" are you my friend?


Gravatarhamletta -- South Park is on... it's the "It" episode.
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GravatarAnti-Fascist--your comments show very little insight into human behavior and motivation.


GravatarOh wait, the wheelchair jackerupper was killed in committee, seems Tom Delay objected when the first Congressional benefactor appeared to be Sen. Byrd.

Tommy couldn't have a dem benefitting in any way, so the WCJUpper was killed.


Gravatarcompassion is not your long suit, eh?
Sarah Deere

No, Sarah. Blind patriotism and flag-waving isn't my "long suit."

And, by the way, I think the phrase you were looking for was "strong suit."

The world is borderless and operates not according to national boundaries. International bankers and economists don't give a shit whether or not a good or service is produced in Cambodia or El Salvador. They merely use nationalistic and patriotic propaganda to keep the masses constantly divided amongst one another.

I'm sorry if I have no tears for these pathetic creatures that were on Nightline tonight. They're willing pawns in a game of chess being played by the rich elite of the world. The truth is out there, but it's too challenging to their little narrow minds to go find.

They get what they deserve.


GravatarDeLay. Going Down, please. Please.


GravatarKeep on swallowing the "left-right" bullshit. That'll get you far.
Anti-Fascist


Oh, dear pure sage...

Show us the errors that we've made; and tell us the pure path to peace...

You've got a plan, don't you?





Right?


GravatarNo, Sarah. Blind patriotism and flag-waving isn't my "long suit."

Ah, I knew it, Anti F is a knee pants kind of guy.


Gravatardon't ever give up or be bitter
remember
others may hate you but it's no matter unless you hate them back
and then
you destroy yourself.


GravatarAnti-F: what *should* we be doing?
nick carraway

Oh, I don't know - maybe marching to Washington and physically removing all these corrupt, racist, xenophobic, suit-and-tie bastards from OUR government instead of sitting here and typing worthless shit on a damn blog.

But, if it makes you feel better - write letters and vote on Diebold machines. That'll do it.


GravatarAnti Fascist: you're displaying a narrow little mind yourself, and in your contempt for those less enlightened than yourself, a touch less "anti" fascist than you realize.


Gravatar...They get what they deserve.
Anti-Fascist


and you are qualified to make this call, how?|


GravatarPhysically removing people from the government is going to get bloody. I thought it was immoral to kill for *any* cause.


GravatarSeriously, what - 100 million people in this country disagree with the current government, maybe more.

What would happen if we all converged on DC and removed these bastards physically - no violence and guns needed, because guys like Rick Santorum (my lovely state's junior senator) and Dennis Hastert wouldn't stick around long enough to grab the last doughnut before getting out of dodge.

That's my plan. What's yours? Writing letters to people like Roy Blunt and Jon Kyl?

Good luck.


GravatarI thought it was immoral to kill for *any* cause.It's only immoral if you believe in god.


GravatarOr, I should say, since it's almost 2 a.m. eastern time, and I am very tired...

Good night, and good luck.


GravatarSarah Deere,

Pay no attention to the idiot.




GravatarSleep well, dear friends.


Gravatarhey CS!


GravatarOh, I don't know - maybe marching to Washington and physically removing all these corrupt, racist, xenophobic, suit-and-tie bastards from OUR government instead of sitting here and typing worthless shit on a damn blog.


Yet you've been here a while doing just that.

And what's the point anyway? Weren't the halcyon days of the US over before the Civil War?


GravatarWhat would happen if we all converged on DC and removed these bastards physically - no violence and guns needed, because guys like Rick Santorum (my lovely state's junior senator) and Dennis Hastert wouldn't stick around long enough to grab the last doughnut before getting out of dodge.

That's my plan. What's yours? Writing letters to people like Roy Blunt and Jon Kyl?

Good luck.
Anti-Fascist


and if some of us died ala Kent State, what would we be?


GravatarOh, I don't know - maybe marching to Washington and physically removing all these corrupt, racist, xenophobic, suit-and-tie bastards from OUR government instead of sitting here and typing worthless shit on a damn blog.

Oh jeez, that's clever.

When are you going to DC, pal? How armed are you? How many comrades do you got?


GravatarIf war is justifiable, murder is justifiable.


Gravatargonna need a lot more than *luck* to pull *that* idea off... is there really such a thing as Divine Intervention???


GravatarBush on the Constitution: 'It's just a goddamned piece of paper'
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/ a...icle_7779.shtml


GravatarWhat's up with the jerkoff? I thought Ayn Rand was dead.

Speaking of which, saw Kiss Kiss Bang Bang tonight - much funnier than I was expecting. Plenty of gratuitous violence and casual nudity as well. Kind of a Mike Hammer parody. Doesn't seem to be getting much notice though.


GravatarHey doug, how's tricks?

Are you healing up?


Gravatar'It's just a goddamned piece of paper'
An instant classic.
It reminds me of the wit of Abe Lincoln or Harry Truman.


GravatarIt's not that Anti-Fascist doesn't understand what's going on... they've just lost all patience.

Patience in my book requires persistence in waiting for the fiery wreck to build up enough self-destructive heat to vaporize itself. Bushco is reaching melting point just lately... we've got a long wait ahead.


GravatarAnd what's the point anyway? Weren't the halcyon days of the US over before the Civil War?
Miriam

Yes, actually, they were. Thanks for reminding me.

Sometimes, I get a little ideological and forget that this country has been Fascist for well over 100 years. Hell, even the original salute to our flag under our "Pledge of Allegiance" was the Nazi salute, even before the Nazis began using it. There are pictures of school children saluting the flag as such on the 'net. Not hard to find.

And, our "Pledge" was written by an avowed Socialist.

Fun stuff for a late Friday night, eh?


GravatarIt's only immoral if you believe in god. dick

Spoken like a dick that believes morality can only derive from religion or belief in god. Liar.


GravatarBush on the Constitution: 'It's just a goddamned piece of paper'

Maybe there's a good reason that I don't come here at night...

It's BS, buddy.


GravatarAnd, our "Pledge" was written by an avowed Socialist.

The point of this?


GravatarMaybe there's a good reason that I don't come here at night...

It's BS, buddy.
Zap Rowsdower, young'n

Just like the WMD scare-tactic and "nuclear bomb" scare-tactic leading up to the illegal invasion of Iraq, eh ZR?

These people don't give a shit about the Constitution, so why would it be a surprise if they stated so?


Gravatargonna need a lot more than *luck* to pull *that* idea off... is there really such a thing as Divine Intervention???
nick carraway


Divine intervention is what Chimpy McFlightsuit thinks his existence if about...being the long arm of God.


GravatarThe point of this?
Miriam

...Is to get you to look past the BS we are fed about world history.


GravatarAre you healing up?

I got some good new from the CT scan I got yesterday. Things are healing up but tomorrow, they are still putting me on a new series of antibiotics. They need to clean up the rest of the messs. BTW, the current theory is that this damage may have occured from overseas service in Africa and the middle east decades ago. Being a sturdy guy, I've been fighting it off that long.

Tonight I had two cans of chicken noodle soup and two pieces of bread. A feast! Well, compared with living on a totally liquid diet for the last two weeks, and nothing at all for one other, than an IV drip.


GravatarOr, I should say, since it's almost 2 a.m. eastern time, and I am very tired...

Good night, and good luck.
Anti-Fascist


Go to bed, your dear leader has been asleep for the last 6 hours. Or was that years? I forget.


Gravatar...Is to get you to look past the BS we are fed about world history.

I'm glad we have good folx like you to save us from ourselves.

No, really.
.


Gravatar...Is to get you to look past the BS we are fed about world history.
Anti-Fascist


Get over your fucking condescension and explain what the socialism of the pledge author has to do with America's Fascism, which somehow didn't exist when slavery did.


GravatarTuned out for a while. Have I opened my White Castle franchise yet?

Did I say anything else... strange while I was gone?


GravatarWho tells the truth about world history?


Gravatar?Who tells the truth about world history?
nick carraway


for the first 50 or 100 years, the victors.

Then archaeologists.


GravatarOy, hidebound ideologues are not so much fun.


GravatarAnd, our "Pledge" was written by an avowed Socialist.

Fun stuff for a late Friday night, eh?
Anti-Fascis


your anger is good, but it is misplaced. the machine of facsism is not running here. it is in the divide and conquer strategy which you so willingly swallow and spit...


GravatarWho tells the truth about world history?

The victors. They *create* the truth.


GravatarJust like the WMD scare-tactic and "nuclear bomb" scare-tactic leading up to the illegal invasion of Iraq, eh ZR?

So, let me get this straight...

A publication that you happen to agree with, says something that you like. Okay. That makes it correct?

Prove your fucking point, already.


GravatarOy, hidebound ideologues are not so much fun.

Or edible.


GravatarTonight I had two cans of chicken noodle soup and two pieces of bread. A feast!

Good for the waistline, eh? I'm so glad to hear things are better.

My thoughts are with you!


Gravatarhamletta -- South Park is on... it's the "It" episode.

Sorry. Missed it favor of the last part of an interview with a Texas shrimper woman who went up against Big Industry.

But the teaser for next week featured our own Jim Cooper, God love him.

Our little friend Anti-Fascist is having trouble with continuity, isn't he? If he isn't careful, he's going to get in trouble with the neo-McCarthyites for being retroactively prematurely anti-Fascist.

Just like Jack Warner!


GravatarGet over your fucking condescension and explain what the socialism of the pledge author has to do with America's Fascism, which somehow didn't exist when slavery did.

Look at the start of the early American Eugenics movement. This does not explain American Fascism, but there are some interesting ties there. Also some ties to some well known Americans and American institutions.


GravatarOy, hidebound ideologues are not so much fun.

Or edible.
Eli


They try to be tough, but they just come off jerk-y...


GravatarAh, I knew it, Anti F is a knee pants kind of guy.

Just another idiot trying to get us to say that we support the death of soldiers and the violent overthrow of the government.


Yawn.


GravatarThis alleged anti-fascist sounds awfully familiar- same personality and phrasing as some other jackoff prick who used to post here. Can't remember which one though. Why do they always want to teach us to be better citizens to a government they claim to despise? What's wrong with them?


GravatarOr edible.


Fudge is edible.

And delicious!


GravatarDear and Glorious Physician were greta tonite. ya'll should get out more.

alas, to stay OT, phuck the stenographers!


GravatarWhy do they always want to teach us to be better citizens to a government they claim to despise? What's wrong with them?


They got dropped on their little haids as infants.


GravatarFudge is edible.

And delicious!
four legs good


Fudge isn't usually hidebound though.


GravatarIs Miriam Miriam or Ror not checking cookies?

Forgive any impertinence.


Gravatar"each man is a factory"

reminded me of early Mission of Burma and Gang of Four. amazing things one can do with 4 pieces.

I bought the CD. what's 3 dollars?


GravatarNever trust anyone who says human lives are disposable simply because he or she disagrees with what those lives believe. Simple as that.


GravatarHowerver, the ham flavored jello is wonderful, or so Farfinir tells me.


GravatarShit!


Gravatar"What's wrong with them?"

Nothing. They are perfect.

It's *our* fault because we spend too much time on the internets while the moon slides deeper into the western sky outside the window.


well, that's what *I'm* doing wrong...


GravatarG'night sweet moonbats.

I'd love to stick around but tomorrow's another day, and an early one at that.

Be well all.


Gravatarhamletta: Sorry. Missed it favor of the last part of an interview with a Texas shrimper woman who went up against Big Industry.

Yeah; I caught Now earlier. It repeats several times over the wee hours, too. I'd like to see it expanded back to a one hour format.

But the teaser for next week featured our own Jim Cooper, God love him.

Yeah, I saw that, too! I may tape that.
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GravatarI have fudge from last Christmas - errm I mean godless holiday period - in my refrigerator. Both chocolate and butterscotch. What's wrong with me?


Gravatar"senior administration officials" report that sodomy and waterboarding, along with the repudiation of 7 years of forgiveness for debts, are , in fact, deeply held Christian values.

who would Jesus waterboard?


Gravataryou don't like fudge or it's just crappy fudge. Throw it away then. It can't be good anymore.


GravatarI have fudge from last Christmas - errm I mean godless holiday period - in my refrigerator. Both chocolate and butterscotch. What's wrong with me?

You are saving them for the final days?


GravatarI'm up way too late.

Wake me when Anti-Fascist is standing on the front lawn of 1600 Pennsylvania with a black face mask on; carrying an M-16.

Peace, all.


GravatarWho tells the truth about world history?

The victors. They *create* the truth.


Dude, I went to high school with Victor, and he really sucked at history.


Gravataryou don't like fudge or it's just crappy fudge

Dammit - I want that third option! /Kirk


GravatarLook at the start of the early American Eugenics movement.

Is it just me, or is there something inherently obnoxious about this sort of use of the imperative, telling people to read or research this or that, assuming they do not already know about it?


GravatarBe well all.
Central Scrutinizer


You too CS.


GravatarDammit - I want that third option! /Kirk

3rd) then feed it to dith.


Gravatarrorschach, I would assume you do know of the eugenics movement. This wasn't addressed to you.


GravatarDude, I went to high school with Victor, and he really sucked at history.

I met a guy named Victor on my way home a few months ago. He told me that his fiancee told him that the Devil told her to do things and she did them. She later tried to kill him with his own samurai sword, but he disarmed her and just managed to stop himself before he cut out her heart and chopped off her head so that they hit the ground at the same time.


Gravatar Is it just me, or is there something inherently obnoxious....

No, dear, it's not just you.

It's some putz who thinks he can pretend to embody all leftist thought, but only knows of such through caricatures.

Thus the utter lack of compassion.


GravatarBrilliant 3rd option! Hey- it's the Mark Twain ep of STTNG on Spike.


GravatarLook at the start of the early American Eugenics movement

KHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!


GravatarShit!
rorschach

i posted this earliar thought you might care...

here is an organization i worked with as a clark- very enlightening, and very sad.
focus
#


GravatarOy, hidebound ideologues are not so much fun.

Or edible.
Eli


You probably just didn't cook them long enough.


GravatarI actually know very little about the American Eugenics movement, and I was not inspired by that particular commenter to educate myself, especially at 1 a.m. (but maybe I'm being obnoxious)


GravatarI want a job as clark.


GravatarI want a job as clark.

Well, you kent have one.


GravatarYou probably just didn't cook them long enough.

They are a bit half-baked, now that you mention it.


GravatarI was going to suggest taking the last train to clarksville, but you may have missed it already.


Gravatarrorschach, I would assume you do know of the eugenics movement. This wasn't addressed to you.
doug,curiouser


Well, it was, though you couldn't know that. My wife had reset the cookies, so I was posting as Miriam for a while there without noticing...

Anyway, it's all good.


GravatarThey are a bit half-baked

No sir, they're completely baked.


Gravatar I actually know very little about the American Eugenics movement

Read about it or not. I found this book to be interesting.

The War against the Weak: Eugenics and America's Campaign to Create a Master Race--Edwin Black


Gravatar
here is an organization i worked with as a clark- very enlightening, and very sad.
focus
focus


Thank you for that, focus.

I am so sick of it.


GravatarI want a job as clark.

you have to start as a coal scuttler
/Cratchet


GravatarI met a guy named Victor on my way home a few months ago. He told me that his fiancee told him that the Devil told her to do things and she did them. She later tried to kill him with his own samurai sword, but he disarmed her and just managed to stop himself before he cut out her heart and chopped off her head so that they hit the ground at the same time.

Oh, THAT Victor. How's he doing?


Gravatarwell 'bats the moon has dropped below the horizon (I live in a valley) and it's time to throw a few more sticks in the woodburner & call it a night.


GravatarOh, THAT Victor. How's he doing?

Not engaged.


GravatarJeffCO: I was going to suggest taking the last train to clarksville, but you may have missed it already.

Hey! That's where my ladyfriend lives! I wish there was a train to Clarksville. Really, I do.
.


GravatarNot engaged.
Eli


Too bad. She sounded lovely.


Gravatardoug, curiouser (& obviously the real one): thanks for the book recommendation.


GravatarJP - her name's not Sleepy Jean by any chance?


GravatarToo bad. She sounded lovely.

I should have gotten her number.


GravatarNot that girls with swords are anywhere *near* as sexy as girls with guns, of course...



And plaid skirts.


GravatarToo bad. She sounded lovely.

Plus, her prospects must be a bit reduced after the disarming and all.


Gravataryou have to start as a coal scuttler

I'm alergic to sctuttles. Can I get disability instead?

How about fast track me to CFO? I've got a specia oven for cooking books.


GravatarJP - her name's not Sleepy Jean by any chance?

I thought it was Valerie.


GravatarI should have gotten her number.
Eli


Spilt milk. Or something.


Gravatarme too, we had to send 14 & 15 year olds away for sexual abuse to be... and yes you guessed it sexually abused.


GravatarNot that girls with swords are anywhere *near* as sexy as girls with guns, of course...



And plaid skirts.
Eli


Can I choose "D--All of the Above"?


GravatarSpilt milk. Or something.

Eh. I don't have a samurai sword, so she probably wouldn't have given me the time of day anyway.


GravatarAnd plaid skirts.
Eli


Boys in plaid skirts can be intriguing as well.


GravatarBoys in plaid skirts can be intriguing as well.

But not to me...


GravatarBoys in plaid skirts can be intriguing as well.

They've been kilt for less.


GravatarI should probably call it a night, so that I can preserve the illusion that I'll go out and take snow pictures tomorrow...


GravatarThey get what they deserve.
Anti-Fascist |

Doubt you're still here, but...precious few of us actually get what we deserve.

Becoming bitter and cynical is not an especially satisfying way to live.

If you have a brain, intelligence - it's nothing without compassion.

That's air far too cold and far too rarified for me to ever live in.

I doubt you will be able to, either, without heavy payment therefore.

And, yeah, strong, long, whatever!!! I am a hopelessly stupid and careless bridge player


GravatarWhat'd I miss? Anything?


GravatarEh. I don't have a samurai sword, so she probably wouldn't have given me the time of day anyway.
Eli


No samurai sword, huh? I'm sure your disturbing clown things would more than make up for the lack.


Gravatartake snow pictures tomorrow...
bring a ND filter to dim things out if it's sunny.


GravatarHey JeffCo, you must've seen Forbidden Games?


GravatarBoys in plaid skirts can be intriguing as well.
Marcia Brady


True, that.


GravatarWhat'd I miss? Anything?

Apparently I'm starting a White Castle franchise.


GravatarPlaid skirts, guns, swords,

How about my puppy, with Brides with guns?

http://www.alaska.net/~babyrne/ a...wanddresses.jpg


GravatarI should probably call it a night, so that I can preserve the illusion that I'll go out and take snow pictures tomorrow...
Eli


Afternoon snow pictures are nice, too.


GravatarNo samurai sword, huh? I'm sure your disturbing clown things would more than make up for the lack.

I think it's a prerequisite that you have to own *something* that she can slice you in half with, so I'm pretty sure I don't qualify.


Gravatarme too, we had to send 14 & 15 year olds away for sexual abuse to be... and yes you guessed it sexually abused.
focus


Urg. And too many people just think that sexual abuse in prison is AOK, especially for those convicted of it themselves. Vile.


Gravatar*hanging head in shame*

Phila - err, I think I have a copy on tape, but no, I have been remiss.


GravatarBut not to me...
Eli


I'd have to see your knees before making an assessment...


GravatarApparently I'm starting a White Castle franchise.
Eli


Go for White Tower, instead...a cheap knock-off.

Hey, you should take a look at the link I have to a bunch of color photos of Russia from 1907...


GravatarAfternoon snow pictures are nice, too.

Knowing me, I'll be lucky to get out before sundown.

On the other hand, I *do* have a decent tripod now...


GravatarPhila - err, I think I have a copy on tape, but no, I have been remiss.
JeffCO


Well, it's on Criterion now. Everyone should watch it...an absolutely heartbreaking movie about the effect of war on children.


GravatarOn the other hand, I *do* have a decent tripod now...
Eli


So those penis enlargement pills actually work?


GravatarI'd have to see your knees before making an assessment...

They're very loose.


GravatarJeez, I sure know how to close a thread down.


GravatarKnowing me, I'll be lucky to get out before sundown.
Eli


I actually made it out today when the sun was still up. I'm working on the deathly pale look, so I'll try to sleep in later tomorrow.


GravatarPhila, I like this one very much.

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empi...es/p87- 6040.jpg


GravatarI actually made it out today when the sun was still up. I'm working on the deathly pale look, so I'll try to sleep in later tomorrow.

Slacker!!!


GravatarThey're very loose.
Eli


Loose knees sink...uh...

Never mind.


GravatarThey're very loose.
Eli


Keith would be very proud. I gather loose knees are a good thing.


GravatarOlberman tells me every day to keep my knees loose.


GravatarKeith would be very proud. I gather loose knees are a good thing.

I guess. I can't hit worth a damn, though.


GravatarPhila, I like this one very much.

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empi.../empi...es/p87- 6040.jpg
doug,curiouser

Yeah, that one's amazing. This one's great, too.


GravatarPhila, without having a calibration target,
I'm amazed how decent the photoshopping of the Russian pictures came out.


GravatarHaving had ACL replacement surgery, I can assure you that you don't want your knees *too* loose.


GravatarI guess. I can't hit worth a damn, though.
Eli


Maybe you should try holding the bat in your hands.

But what do I know.


GravatarAnd then there's this modest little stove.


GravatarOlberman tells me every day to keep my knees loose.
Barry from Alaska


And everyone should always do everything Mr. Olbermann says.


GravatarMost of the places in the photo sets probobly are not there anymore.

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empi...es/p87- 6458.jpg


Gravatarwow, youse guys are up this late. what time does Atrios close this blog anyway?


GravatarMaybe you should try holding the bat in your hands.

But what do I know.


What about the glove? Yea or nay?

Or do I just need to do better at keeping my eye on the balls?



Unfortunately, I will almost certainly be unconscious by the time you reply, possibly even before I finish typing this...


Gravatarwhat time does Atrios close this blog anyway

He doesn't, unless the haloscan server crashes.


GravatarIndependence Day is on. This is the best movie ever made. Very rousing.


GravatarPhila, without having a calibration target,
I'm amazed how decent the photoshopping of the Russian pictures came out.
doug,curiouser


It's pretty amazing. There were a few early experiments with color that turned out really well, but never went anywhere. I went to a showing of early color movies about a year ago, and there was one guy who'd managed to get something very close to Technicolor circa 1912. But it never amounted to anything.


GravatarMost of the places in the photo sets probobly are not there anymore.

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empi.../empi...es/p87- 6458.jpg
doug,curiouser


It's funny to see photos of Russia with sunny, clear blue skies. I think it was part of the propaganda for so many years that every photo from there shown in America be gray and depressing.


GravatarHey! That's where my ladyfriend lives! I wish there was a train to Clarksville. Really, I do.

Heh. Passenger train service to Nashville ceased in the early '70s.

You're a more recent transplant, so you probably don't remember when Union Station was a huge white elephant waiting to be adopted. And you probably weren't as sad as I was to see the shed torn down.

But there was this movie in the mid-to-late '70s, called Concrete Cowboys, starring a pre-Magnum Tom Selleck and Jerry Reed as PIs in Nashville, whose final chase scene was in the dilapidated, pigeon-filled, Union Station. (They plugged in a few neon beer gimme signs for some kinda effect.)

Also features scenes shot at Hippodrome Olds, with everyday Broadway traffic visible in the background.

Of course, they wear cowboy hat throughout, because everybody in Nashville wears a cowboy hat, right?


Gravatarwhen will the next thread start... there's a frist item to put up...


GravatarIndependence Day is on. This is the best movie ever made. Very rousing.

I was able to suspend disbelief and enjoy the ride, right up to the point where Jeff Goldblum gave one of the alien spaceships a virus...


GravatarMost of the places in the photo sets probobly are not there anymore.

Replaced with horrifying concrete tenement blocks for the Noble Worker, most likely.


GravatarUnfortunately, I will almost certainly be unconscious by the time you reply, possibly even before I finish typing this...
Eli


No stamina. I'll be up for at least three more hours.

Kids today...


GravatarIndependence Day is on. This is the best movie ever made. Very rousing.
Thers


Yea, if you're an area 51 fanatic.

Oy.


GravatarIndependence Day is on. This is the best movie ever made. Very rousing.
Thers


Because the 4th of July should be celebrated by EVERYONE dammit!!!


GravatarIndependence Day makes everything that Kurosowa guy ever did look like a pile of crap.


GravatarHa. Here's a decadent Uzbek, who'll never amount to much.


GravatarIndependence Day is on. This is the best movie ever made. Very rousing.
Thers


Yes, that Tommy Lee Jones is too hot.

Wait, that's Men In Black...


GravatarNot all of the communist concrete buildings were horrors.

Czech Cubism Image Tour
http://lava.ds.arch.tue.nl/galle...ha/ tcubism.html


GravatarIndependence Day makes everything that Kurosowa guy ever did look like a pile of crap.
Thers


But then, so does the average Gumby cartoon.


Gravatarhamletta: You're a more recent transplant, so you probably don't remember when Union Station was a huge white elephant waiting to be adopted. And you probably weren't as sad as I was to see the shed torn down.

That had to have happened before I got here in 1995. All I remember of Union Station is the Flying Saucer.

Of course, they wear cowboy hat throughout, because everybody in Nashville wears a cowboy hat, right?

Sure -- I never leave the house without it, of course! If you don't believe me, you can ask Soprano.
.


GravatarCzech Cubism Image Tour
http://lava.ds.arch.tue.nl/galle...ha/ tcubism.html
doug,curiouser


Very nice.


GravatarThe script of Independence Day was written in blank verse and every shot is a modern art masterpiece.


GravatarI think everyone involved in Mars Attacks! should be clapped in irons for mocking the glory that is Independence Day.


GravatarI like the part where the aliens try to force the humans to drag one of their ships through the Peruvian jungle to set up an intergalactic opera house.


GravatarThe script of Independence Day was written in blank verse and every shot is a modern art masterpiece.
Thers


Did you know that if you play it alongside The Wizard of Oz, it syncs up perfectly?


GravatarI like the part where the aliens try to force the humans to drag one of their ships through the Peruvian jungle to set up an intergalactic opera house.
JeffCO


Yeah, and one of the aliens keeps putting his wife on stage, even though she's really terrible, and makes the earth newspapers praise her.


GravatarThe best part of Independence Day is the verisimiliude. If you look closely you can see the giant cable that provides the evil alien mothership with their dial-up AOL connection.


GravatarAnd who among us is not flush with pride for our take-charge fighter pilot President, ably played by Bill Paxton.


GravatarThe original screenplay of Independence Day was by Sheridan, who was ahead of his time.


GravatarThe original screenplay of Independence Day was by Sheridan, who was ahead of his time.
Thers


Posh.

It is nothing less than Shakespearean in its grandeur.


GravatarThe best part of Independence Day is the verisimiliude. If you look closely you can see the giant cable that provides the evil alien mothership with their dial-up AOL connection.
Thers


That's actually product placement. In fact, the actors were paid off in AOL installation discs to keep costs down.

You can't tell it was made on a shoestring, though. it's amazing when you think that the entire movie was filmed on an old Bell & Howell regular 8 camera, using an empty aquarium for a set.


GravatarOkay, sleepin' may be the thang...


GravatarUrg. And too many people just think that sexual abuse in prison is AOK, especially for those convicted of it themselves. Vile.
rorschach |

Perhaps it titillates them, who knows. For some, rape is rape in quotation marks: "rape".

I don't think they have a clue how truly horrible it really is - how soul-shattering.


GravatarThe original screenplay of Independence Day was by Sheridan, who was ahead of his time.
Thers


From an idea by Oliver Goldsmith, I believe. It was originally titled "They Stoop to Conquer."


Gravatar And who among us is not flush with pride for our take-charge fighter pilot President, ably played by Bill Paxton.

That's BILL PULLMAN, you ill-bred Philistine.

(Swirls contents of brandy snifter, tastefully emblazoned with family crest and heroic scenes from epic Scooby-Doo episodes)


GravatarAnd who among us is not flush with pride for our take-charge fighter pilot President, ably played by Bill Paxton.

Um, I did my time dubya?


GravatarYou all are Philistines. If you don't read Independence Day in the original Old English, thorns and all, you miss the entire ethos of the work.


GravatarMe, I liked the drunk ex-fighter pilot who ultimately saved the day.


GravatarFrom an idea by Oliver Goldsmith, I believe. It was originally titled "They Stoop to Conquer."

it was "School for Scandal, and Up Yours You Alien Pricks!"


Gravatarepic Scooby-Doo episodes)
Thers


Typical liberal. Scooby-Doo destroyed the faith of a generation, by explaining the supernatural in resolutely material terms. It was a little more than a Schoole for Atheisme.


GravatarThat's BILL PULLMAN, you ill-bred Philistine.

Is there no place for the man with the 105 IQ??? I'm a Spalding Gray in a Rick Dees world.


GravatarTypical liberal. Scooby-Doo destroyed the faith of a generation, by explaining the supernatural in resolutely material terms. It was a little more than a Schoole for Atheisme.

But, Caspar was real, wasn't he? I mean a real ghost, not just a holographic projection.


GravatarScooby-Doo destroyed the faith of a generation

And he'd've gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!


GravatarYou all are Philistines. If you don't read Independence Day in the original Old English, thorns and all, you miss the entire ethos of the work.
rorschach


Mayhap. But unless you read Husserl's volumes of commentary on it, you're destined to misunderstand the tension between the worldly and the extraworldly, in which the aliens are revealed to be nothing less than the transcendental I.


GravatarHoly cow - Melina Mercouri on TCM. What's Greek for Mrrrooowwwrrrww!


GravatarYou all are Philistines.

yes...yes, I am, and I MUST go to sleep soon so as to attend my g'dtr's second Tai Kwon Do belt competition at 9:30 AM at a place about an hour away, and, at my age, I need to get up AT LEAST an hour and a half before leaving home.

Nuts!!

WHy can't they be civilised and do things like this in the afternoon...???


GravatarYou all are Philistines. If you don't read Independence Day in the original Old English, thorns and all, you miss the entire ethos of the work.
rorschach


I've seen the "original". Was set in Lucinda Easyread font, which wasn't invented till 1995.


GravatarBut, Caspar was real, wasn't he?

He was the ghost of Richie Rich, who was strangled by Gloria Glad while re-enacting the climax from In the Realm of the Senses.


GravatarScooby-Doo destroyed the faith of a generation, by explaining the supernatural in resolutely material terms. It was a little more than a Schoole for Atheisme.

Pish-tush. The series left ample ground for wonder at the majesty of Creation. Witness: Scrappy-Doo.


GravatarAnd he'd've gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!
JeffCO


Ruck roo, ReffCo!


GravatarIf you don't read Independence Day in the original Old English, thorns and all, you miss the entire ethos of the work.

I hate that Grendel bastard. What. A. Jerk. I hope Will Smith blows him up read good!


GravatarMayhap. But unless you read Husserl's volumes of commentary on it, you're destined to misunderstand the tension between the worldly and the extraworldly, in which the aliens are revealed to be nothing less than the transcendental I.
Phila


In the immortal words of Heidegger:

D'oh!


GravatarAm I mistaken that Euclid demonstrated the infeasibility of galactic travel?


GravatarI'm going to bed. It's gotten very silly around here.

Pish-tush!

God, I love saying "Pish-tush!"


GravatarPish-tush. The series left ample ground for wonder at the majesty of Creation. Witness: Scrappy-Doo.
Thers


Are you kidding me? Scrappy-Doo and Scooby-Doo represent the dialectical relation between superstructure and base.


GravatarWho doesn't love a Greek hooker with a heart of gold?


GravatarWell, "Scrappy-Doo"'s name clearly represents the excremental excess of the environmentally destructive capitalist phallogocentric hegemony. Could it be more obvious?


GravatarAs I see it, Scooby-Doo and the kids were ultimately aiming at a revolutionary critique of the supernatural elements of bourgeois culture, which would free the proletariat from the normative effects of an imagined deity's panoptic gaze.


GravatarWhy is Atrios advertising (top right of main page) the website of a guy called "Rob Port", whos cleverest and most quotable quote is: "It's nice to know that the Democratic efforts to convince Americans that we're losing the war is having such a wonderful impact on our image abroad."

He is not sincere. The idiot says this as what that O'Reilley pervert might descrtibe as a "satirical riff".

I have no plans to grace Mr Port's website with my presence, but I would note to anyone not currently barfing at the fool's gibberish that I live out here in the real, non-insane, world, and I can inform you that it is only through the efforts of the brave and responsible democrats within your currently uber-weird country, that, frankly, we allow you to travel out of North America at all.
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GravatarWell, "Scrappy-Doo"'s name clearly represents the excremental excess of the environmentally destructive capitalist phallogocentric hegemony. Could it be more obvious?
rorschach


There's some truth to that. But the show's real achievement is the revelation of the ghost in capitalism's machine...the link between supernatural terror and occult vengeance as a form of social control, and the everyday operations of capitalism.


GravatarAs I see it, Scooby-Doo and the kids were ultimately aiming at a revolutionary critique of the supernatural elements of bourgeois culture, which would free the proletariat from the normative effects of an imagined deity's panoptic gaze.
Phila


Yeah, but it undermined itself by relying upon the power of consumption, embodied by scoobysnacks and the preternatural power of the van which always managed to remove them from the consequences of their actions...


GravatarSheesh - get a room already you two! Bon nuit!


GravatarIt's all in my latest paper, entitled Money and Ghosts: Supernatural Hegemony, Class Consciousness, and the Unfinished Work of Humanism in Scooby-Doo.


GravatarOn that note, I'm going to turn it. G'night.


GravatarThere's Fred and Velma, who represent the technocratic elites of the capitalist infrastructure. And then Daphne, the clueless entertainment industry, always bumbling about in ways that serve the rulers' ends.

And then there are the "drop outs" Shaggy and Scooby, who contribute nothing, except that they do contribute by eating and slacking, letting the whole capitalist drama play out.


GravatarIt's all in my latest paper, entitled Money and Ghosts: Supernatural Hegemony, Class Consciousness, and the Unfinished Work of Humanism in Scooby-Doo.

I'm pissed.

You have a paper, Kos has a book. And I have nothing but black pixels on a screen.

Phish-tush


Gravatarg'night all.


GravatarIt is nothing less than Shakespearean in its grandeur.
rorschach

you guys are funnin' - right????


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you guys are funnin' - right????
Sarah Deere


Now who would make jokes about God's own planet under attack by, gulp, Ailiens?

Wouldn't be in the Christmas Spirit to acknowledge, gulp, Ailiens.

Not even at Wal-Mart.


GravatarBarry...

And, now, to bed. Granchildren are now more important than ANYTHING.

Quick sleep, quick up.

Y'know???

Sleep well, yourself, please.


Gravatar Why is Atrios advertising (top right of main page) the website of a guy called "Rob Port"....

He's not. The ad is actually for a blogspot-like site, where anybody can say anything, and this guy came up.

And anyway, Atrios has long disavowed any responsibility for what BlogAds puts on his site.


GravatarBut rorschach--Shaggy and Scooby do contribute by always stumbling upon clues serendipitously while Fred and Velma's logic remined fruitless. They represent Holy Fool archetyes in the Jungian system.

Gawd I hated that show, even as a kid.

And how about that "Last Year at Marienbad"?


GravatarFred and Velma's logic...

Pretty sure it was Wilma.

Barney and Betty next door.


GravatarEvening fellow moonbats, what's shaking?


GravatarAtriotistas...

I, ¡El Gato Negro! have made a lengthy study of jour "Scooby-Doo" serial del televisor. Here, een the shell of a nut, ees jour "Scooby-Doo", eh?

~Scene~ The Main Lobby of a Spooky old Hotel

Fred: Okay Shaggy, Daphne and I will check out the bedrooms.
You and Scoob check the spooky boathouse out back, take Scrappy with you.

Shaggy: Zoinks!

Scooby-Doo: Rammit! Rot ragain... rhatta ruckin' ryp!

Shaggy: You said it, Scoob
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~fin~

so.


GravatarAnd speaking of Rob Port - I know, I know, it has nothing to do with Atrios - just what is that fat, smug dipshit doing to win the war in Iraq? I notice he's not in uniform.


Gravatar¡El Gato Negro!


You should be in el 'ollywood.


Gravatarmorning atriots


GravatarAh Moonbootica...

Now I can go to bed, things are in good hands.


GravatarSad news for the Skiffy set, no?

Robert Sheckley has passed away.

Ask Filkertom about thees hombre eef joo are no familiar weeth heem already.

so.


Gravatarworst administration in US history for .

William Henry Harrison caught pneumonia at his inaugural, and died one month later. Is Bush's record even worse than that? Probably historians will say so.


GravatarPosted also at PRESSthink:

In 2001, just before Bush's first presidential installation, Seth Mnookin wrote in the now defunct Brill's Content that those who reported on Bush's campaign would become members of the White House Press Corps.

From the Brill's Content website, posted on 1/19/01, "Roundup: Dubya's Press Posse" (The link I have doesn't work, of course, but the Brill's Content articles may still be available on Lexis-Nexis.)

New administrations bring myriad changes to the Washington landscape, and not just for the thousands of political appointees who populate the capital. The fourth estate has a traditional changing of the guard as well; as rising stars get assigned to the White House, once-frenetic campaign correspondents return to filing placid metro briefs, and political reporters mine a newly ascendant set of sources.

For Bush II, some reporters will be better positioned than others. A handful of scribes insinuated themselves so well into George W. Bush's presidential campaign that they're already angling for scoops and prime background clatter. Foremost among those is Thomas DeFrank, the Washington bureau chief for the Daily News of New York, a man referred to in Bill Minutaglio's Dubya biography as one of the president's "favorites." DeFrank's ties extend deep into the Bush-family coterie: He wrote a book with Bush adviser James Baker and has been close to Vice-President Dick Cheney since the seventies, a relationship DeFrank parlayed into the vice-presidential nominee's first newspaper interview after being selected for the Republican ticket.


I am not now nor have I ever been a journalist, and at the time I had been involved in politics for less than a year, but below was my response...

See next post.


GravatarContinued from my last post, above:

Did I miss something? Was there a part of this article that didn't make it to the website? Where's the outrage that people who call themselves journalists but who have financial relationships with close advisors of the president-select will report on him? How in the world can we expect those people to be objective?

Not to mention all the reporters that Dubya sweet-talked during the campaign, giving them such cute nicknames. Just palsy-walsy, right? Those people never asked George Bush the questions he should have been asked about his SEC violations for which anyone else would have gone to jail, how he miraculously turned a $600,000 investment into $15 million, the accusations of influence peddling while governor of Texas, and his possible perjury in a case where he is being sued. They should have been fired, not made members of the White House press corps.

Here was the real story of the 2000 campaign: The mainstream media fell hook, line, and sinker for every one of the lies that the Bush "oppo" team told about Al Gore, and did not ask George Bush the questions he should have been hounded to answer.

I expected you, of all magazines, to give the media grief over the way they covered the 2000 election. I am sorely disappointed.


No wonder Brill’s Content failed. Like Woodward, its editors missed the most important part of the the most important story of the new millenium.

Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com


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