I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Morning
happy fitzmas everyone 
We shall never destroy the thread.
Unless the dragons come back.
Merry Fitzfrist!
apolgies to a-man , tried to send that and messed it up numerous times...
for the slag of phlem that is Larry King, the St.Jude extended talk tonight was wonderful
How planespotters turned into the scourge of the CIA
Paul last saw the Gulfstream V about 18 months ago. He comes down to Glasgow airport's planespotters' club most days. He had not seen the plane before so he marked the serial number down in his book. At the time, he did not think there was anything unusual about the Gulfstream being ushered to a stand away from public view, one that could not be seen from the airport terminal or the club's prime view.
a new movie in the making... nice post moon
yep Mr.Murder and I imagine Richard Curtis would be invovled heh.
Heidi is such a splendid cat...
Mr.Murder very naughty though.
and she answers back, when you tell her off she comes back with a petulant meow.
she is also extremly stupid
but that just makes her a spleid cat
Well I was saying , we'd need someone to play the schoolgirl for the new take.
We used to try and method act those characters when people were on binges to fuck with their heads...
*splendid.
spleid- some new term for fixed?
j/k
You know pets take the traits of their owners...
Mr.Murder i would not be suprised.
cats are like children.
unfortunately it's a trilogy and I've seen one of the other films and forgot it already(was in a rough wreck and had a coma for most of that week's events)
It was like going to Tommy's apartment and seeing a friend turned into a ghost. Alive, but dead in the sense of how you knew them, and they're on borrowed time, wanting to borrow a hit.
Don't really want to go back to those days.
but we had this apartment that several friend rented in a row, one would move or skip out, the toher woucl but the place...
a collection of paintings and crudely drawn cartoons were the result...
including a tablecloth canvas that had a gonzo-hunter thompson styled steadman my friend made for me, from a night he was at an improv in flint and someone heckled his friend while sitting with their table like he knew all of them...
sorry, am not seeing my keyboard square right now... think it's about time for a nap...
still hear the muffled tromobne from trainspotting..
brrr-brr, brr-brr-
brrrr-brrr-brrr-brrrrr
brr-brr, brr-brr
brrrr-brrrr-brrr-brrrrr
Arabs Unimpressed by Bush Democracy Drive
by Jim Lobe
WASHINGTON - Despite a modest decline in hostility toward the United States, opinion in the Arab world appears to have hardened over the past year, according to the latest in an annual series of surveys of six Arab countries released here Wednesday by the Arab American Institute (AAI).
That hardening appears due primarily to continued Arab opposition to the war in Iraq and to perceptions of U.S. treatment of Arabs and Muslims – the two most important factors in shaping Arab views of the U.S., according to the survey, which was carried out by the Zogby International polling firm in the latter half of October.
By contrast, President George W. Bush's efforts to persuade the Arab world that Washington promotes democratic reform in their countries has made hardly a dent in the views of the vast majority of Arabs, with the exception of Christians in Lebanon, according to the poll's designer, AAI president, James Zogby.
Besides Lebanon, the survey was carried out in Egypt, Jordan, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates (UAE).
"In Egypt and Saudi Arabia, the two countries where the U.S. has focused its democracy message, the effort appeared to backfire," according to Zogby. "Of the 4 percent in Egypt and 9 percent in Saudi Arabia who said that 'President Bush's promotion of democracy and reform' was the most important factor determining their attitudes toward the U.S., over 80 percent said this effort worsened their view of the U.S."
Views of China were far more favorable, particularly in Egypt, Jordan and Morocco, where majorities expressed positive views of Beijing. India was also viewed significantly more favorably than the United States. Even Russia received more favorable ratings, except in Morocco and the UAE.
the other clinker in the state dept...karen 'man-hands' what-ser face, has certainly been effective in preaching da chimps democratic reforms...our status, with the arabs, is lower than whale shit...
niters, bats!
g'day to you moon!
ah, what a beautiful morning...time for bed.
Morning Moonbat. Looks like it will be just us two for a little while.
Soviet air bases in Poland are labelled secret CIA sites
The CIA operated two secret "black sites" for terrorism suspects in Poland, the main European location for the clandestine operation, according to a Polish press report yesterday.
The military expert with Human Rights Watch, which said last month that US intelligence had been using facilities in Poland and Romania to incarcerate and interrogate senior al-Qaida suspects, told the Gazeta Wyborcza newspaper that about a quarter of 100 prisoners had been held secretly at two former Soviet air bases in Poland.
Morning.
Woke up with a charliehorse, but Cleocatra sleeping in the bend of my leg. Avoided violent confrontation, but am very awake.
From WaPo, riveting article on behavior modifying bias as characteristic of paranoia, of course, explains why wingnuts vote Rethug against their own best interests. Oh, my, should have been obvious:
'Mental health practitioners say they regularly confront extreme forms of racism, homophobia and other prejudice in the course of therapy, and that some patients are disabled by these beliefs. As doctors increasingly weigh the effects of race and culture on mental illness, some are asking whether pathological bias ought to be an official psychiatric diagnosis.'
Morning ql in ny
Police chief to look into claims over flights
A top police officer is seeking a meeting with Liberty, the human rights group, over suspicions that British airports have been used by CIA planes taking detainees to places where they may be tortured.
Michael Todd, chief constable of Greater Manchester, is to pursue allegations that CIA planes, known to have landed in Britain, carried terrorist suspects "rendered" to secret interrogation centres elsewhere.
Mr Todd, who is the member of the Association of Chief Police Officers' terrorism committee responsible for aviation, is to meet Shami Chakrabarti, director of the human rights group, for what his spokesman called "an initial exploration of the issues Liberty have raised".
firedoglake has an interesting post up about the use of the military for w's staged presentations. It's about two or three posts down and begins with a "?".
Political staging in this country is an art form. Since the advent of televised political shows, the sound bite has become the most sought after plum. But using substantial public money and military personnel who are required under orders to attend political events is at odds with military policy. Why does this particular Commander in Chief feel he is above the law, time and again -- on this issue and so many others?
I too am incredibly concerned by this.
ql: During Katrina news there was an article in the Dallas Morning Views about a TX Nat'l guard unit that was sent to the area under the impression that they would help with rescues. Wound up being posed in NO on Jackson Square behind the shrub, then sent home.
As we say around here, he's just ignorant.
Chilean candidate defies stereotype
The leader in Chile's presidential race is a socialist, atheist, single mom, torture victim - hardly the profile for success in a conservative, Catholic South American country.
Yet, Michelle Bachelet is far ahead of the candidates of a split right-wing opposition going into Sunday's presidential election.
Although her poll figures have slipped in the past days and she may fail to get the 50% needed to avoid a runoff vote, Chileans have found her unconventional resume, which blends recent history with her own painful story, appealing.
Bachelet, 54, is the candidate for the centre-left Concertacion, the coalition of leftist and centrist parties that has governed Chile for 16 years, since democracy returned.
Here's a fine rant concerning Christo-fascists and their ever widening reach.
You know ladies, back in the seventies the libertarian nut cases were running around talking about an international cabal that ruled the world. At this point I almost wish there were such a powerful cabal and that they would look at where we are heading and say "enough!"
Ruth, you're in Texas?
Morning, pAtriots
Small town Texas, yes.
well moonbats i must leave you for awhile, my mother is making brunch and after that we are going to Bath to browse the christmas markets.
ciao for now.
it's nice to have coalition partners joining us to stamp out terrorism...orrrr was that their only motiveee...quid pro quo...another deficit buster...
Poland has asked for additional U.S. military assistance to modernize its own forces as it considers whether to extend the presence of Polish troops in Iraq next year, according to Polish and U.S. officials.
Moonbootica, say hi to your mom, and how did the sausage casserole turn out when your refrigerator went out and everything thawed by the bye?
going to Bath to browse the christmas markets.
How I would love to be off to Bath!
DWD - what happened with your blood pressure? was it just the pain driving it up?
"We should constantly be reviewing our policies, constantly be looking at those sanctions to make sure that they are directed toward that purpose. That purpose is every bit as important now as it was ten years ago when we began it. And frankly they have worked. He has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project conventional power against his neighbors. So in effect, our policies have strengthened the security of the neighbors of Iraq, and these are policies that we are going to keep in place." - Colin Powell, FEB 24, 2001
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld should be impeached and then arrested.
ATTENTION CONGRESSIONAL DEMOCRATS. We know you know in your heart that what Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld have done with Iraq far exceeds the moral AND legal test for impeachment and shows them to be a clear and present danger to the United States of America. You must stand up and say so.
You have a duty to the American people, yourself and humanity to GO TO THE MAT for bi-partisan, well funded and transparent congressional investigations leading to impeachment. Shut down the governments business if that's what you have to do to move this forward and pound it into the American mind. Use whatever guerilla parliamentary procedure available to you. Say and do nothing else until the GOP agrees to investigate what any sane and just mind considers horrific crimes. No legislation, no issue, no job, no friendship, nothing you can personally gain or lose is more important (or potentially politically effective… but more on that later) than this effort. Nothing is more important than cutting this cancer from our government. Our safety, perhaps even our very survival depends on it.
Mountains of evidence make clear these people have behaved in ways that make them war criminals and traitors. You must stop them before they take us to war again, before they sell out our national security again, before they destabilize the world to the point of no return. It is your right and your duty. Only you and your fellow elected congressional Democrats can get this done. This is why the people elected you.
Stand shoulder-to-shoulder, stand tall. Walk down the hall, grab your fellow elected Democrats by the collar, walk out onto the steps, and start saying what you believe. Say it loud, say it together, and say it all the time, and you will drag the media and the American mind along. They have committed impeachable offences, they are destroying our national security and our good name, and they are profiting greatly from it. They must be held to account before we follow ancient Rome into the ashes of history.
I PROMISE YOU, in the end, not only will you know you've done the right thing, but you'll come out on top POLITICALLY as well. The American people will come to know traitors and criminals in their midst if you show them often enough what they look like. And in the end, they will be grateful. Amer
America needs leaders again. America needs heroes. Will you step up?
Americans want leaders who will boldly defend their interests. They want fighters. And it works even better if you’re fighting for what’s right. By both the letter and spirit of the constitution and the law the people who lead this administration are guilty of crimes punishable by impeachment, arrest, and a long prison sentence. They are destroying the United States. You want to toughen up in the eyes of Joe Sixpack? Then fight this fight. Defend your fucking country.
Senator Rockefeller, if you let Pat Roberts go back on his word to investigate the administrations use of intelligence, history will hunt you down and punish you in the same breath as those who have committed these despicable acts. Where are you? What could be more important than ensuring our leaders don’t twist intelligence to make fraudulent cases for war? As a member of the United States Senate you have the power to make sure this goes forward. You will have to put it on the line to be sure, but this is the right thing to do. Senator, we beg you, live up to your name. Stand tall in important ways.
Congressmen Waxman, Conyers, Lee, Rangel, thank you for all your letters, requests, complaints to the administration and the GOP leadership. You have done far more than most. You have shown you know right from wrong, that you have a heart, and you retain most of your humanity. But all that and a buck will buy America a cup of coffee. You have said many words that needed to be spoken. But it is clear we need different words now. We need words like IMPEACHEMENT and ARREST. Words like TREASON and HIGH CRIMES. Words like WAR PROFITEERING, CORRUPTION and CONSPIRACY.
We, the American people, need to hear from you how the conservatives SOLD OUT THE SECURITY OF OUR COUNTRY, OF OUR CHILDREN AND OUR LOVED ONES in order to try and COVER UP THEIR FRAUDLENT CASE FOR WAR. They LIED to bring this nation to war. We need to hear these words from you and your fellow congressional Democrats EVERY DAY.
These are simple concepts and the evidence is clear. Once you push these words and ideas into the American mind the game will be over. In fact, you have the chance to crush the Republican Party. With this war and the way in which we were driven to it you have the great weight of the truth. Avail yourselves of it often enough and you will crush the conservative movement.
It is clear the intransigence of this administration and the GOP leadership knows no bounds. They won’t budge until the American people demand it. The way to make that happen is for you and your fellow Democrats to shut-it-all-down, by whatever means necessary, until the evidence and consequences of their crimes are detailed in congressional investigations and front and center in our media culture. Your action will force Joe Sixpack to come to a conclusion about what you are saying. The cold, hard reality of the evidence an
It is clear the intransigence of this administration and the GOP leadership knows no bounds. They won’t budge until the American people demand it. The way to make that happen is for you and your fellow Democrats to shut-it-all-down, by whatever means necessary, until the evidence and consequences of their crimes are detailed in congressional investigations and front and center in our media culture. Your action will force Joe Sixpack to come to a conclusion about what you are saying. The cold, hard reality of the evidence and a few GOP rats fleeing the ship to avoid the rising water will take care of the rest.
You owe your constituents and humanity a course of action that is effective. Time is short. The situation is dire. Our rate of decay is exponential. We’re losing entire cities at a time. Impeachment was designed to save the nation from just this kind of leadership. It’s time for you to get out there and speak truth to power.
Now is your time. Write a chapter of great American history or forever be damned to the footnotes in another tale of empire gone by. America as we know it depends on your actions in the next weeks and months. History has an especially keen eye on these days. May it hold you in high regard. God speed…
QL, Apparently. I went to doctors and it was still high, but he wanted me to come back at the end of the month - yearly physical anyway. He thought that both the pain and discomfort were driving it up.
Did you ever get much snow? I thought we had about four inches yesterday, turned out to be about eight again. Still not enough to be a problem, but enough to have to shovel. Littlest DWD and I took care of it yesterday afternoon.
Truth, I agree with your statements. In fact, I have often voiced similar. Reality: the Republicans will not "allow" this to happen and Democrats are too timid to force the issue.
(But it is a nice piece.)
Just a couple of inches. Most was washed away.
The Truth aint half bad, but I wonder why he's posting it here instead of on his own blog.
Oh, QL, I do that occasionally. The problem with having a blog is that it NEEDS things.
About ten years ago or so I had a blog. Course they were not called "Blogs" then. Just personal web pages.
My friend and I did a political satire page. It was pretty good. In many ways superior to most everything out there. We received some nice accolades: One from the Los Angeles Times. Best of the Web from a rating company and stuff. But the pressure of updating just got to the two of us. It would seem that we would do it, then it needed doing again and again.
So, if I have something that is needing to be said, I just say it here. Easier and prolly better.
QL, A Doom Brothers' Editorial from 1997
"Editorial:
it is a sad commentary on our society that we have created an industry that needs a scandal to keep working. Without the obvious complicity of the Clintons, could Geraldo exist? Without the stupidity of the Special Prosecutor's Office, would CNBC have anything to report. Where would CNN be without the US Military or Princess Di? If you doubt the veracity of these words, try surfing the channels on the television (Doom Brothers and Sisters: Please DO NOT STOP long enough to hear this drivel) and see how many people are employed to scatter what little information there is.
Without further ado, let us appoint some of these champions of truth to other positions that would be more important. I think that Geraldo Rivera and Sam Donaldson would make a splendid team driving a septic tank truck -- Geraldo to drive and Sam to suck! They could alternate as they have both been hauling mierda for years!
I think that Chris Matthews should get a summer job at Mackinac Island. (For those of you unfamiliar with the island, they prohibit motor vehicles -- preferring horses . . .) They have people who do nothing but walk behind the horses with a wheelbarrow and a shovel. When the horse's bowels move -- so do they. I will admit this is roughly a parallel move, but who knows, maybe in time . . .
I propose Wolf Blitzer, Peter Jennings, and Dan Rather form a company that specializes in removing the "Fertilizer" from beneath the holding tanks of pig farms in Iowa and transporting this material to the fields where it might do some good.
The Doom Brothers are open to suggestion for alternative fields for other government workers and news readers. If you have a suggestion, email us at . . ."
See, still crazy after all these years.
Good morning atriots.
23 degrees outside.
New York Times: OpEd MoDo and Tierney.
Their columns are both shitty, comme toujours.
Husband is off the the railroad to clear track and make sure the switches are not frozen.
I love a railroad man, but who doesn't?
Bush: Done, ruined and fucked.
Hey, Arabella: I thought I was talking to myself again.
DWD - nothing wrong with talking to yourself. You are talking with a very intelligent person when you do.
Why is everyone sleeping late? Or maybe they are still not home from carousing last night.
Bush: Done, ruined and fucked.
Arabella, have you considered that we keep seeing things that most of America does not see. Now, if we see things that they do not see; are they crazy or are we?
The Truth posts such long comments that it's a chore to read them. Very naive stuff it is too. My fear for the Democrats is that we won't get our act together so that we can reclaim this country for the sane people who are left. In the short term we have to get rid of the Republicans. In the long term, we have to rebuild the party from the ground up.
This country is not a liberal country and it never has been. I hate the DLC and they have to go. I'm a Howard Dean supporter. His ideas are the basis for the New Democratic Party.
We can't afford to fuck this up.
Curled up in a little ball to stay warm, and it made a nest for Cleocatra - she's now decided exploring is better.
DWD: I think most of America can see it better now, and are afraid. I'm afraid too. Discussed this with a conservative/libertarian yesterday, agreed everyone is scared at what's happening to the US.
C-span open for Dems only - thoughts on Lieberman on Iraq.
Arabella, No argument here about the conservative nature of America.
But, and this is an important difference, many conservatives are as sickened as we are by the corruption and the obvious complicity of the government in lying.
Somehow the doctrines of Conservatism: self- reliance, strong moral views, and responsibility in using the people's money have simply been forgotten.
I do not consider George Bush and his ilk Conservatives. I believe that they are something quite different: radical corporatalists. They have no beliefs other than grabbing as much money as they can for themselves and their friends.
da bush legacy...
ok kids, you can chop down every dam cherry tree you find, and lie about it..
you can yell fire in a crowded theater...
you can steal from the poor and give to the rich...
you cam emulate my proud military service to the country...
you can cheer the exdous of millions of jobs, due to outsourcing...
you can thank me for the reducion of civil liberties due to Patriot Act..
a stock market whose dja is lower than when i took office...
a deficit that only a repug could love...
a world where our status is lower than whale shit...
please feel free to share your thoughts on such a bountiful (incomplete) legacy...peace be wid ya bro...
Here is part of the problem.
I work with two young men, both of whom are very smart, one of whom is probably going to go places. They are extremely well educated and keep up-to-date with current affairs. Both have moms my age who are as passionately opposed to this regime as I am. One has a f-i-l who protests in the town square every single week. F-i-l is "somebody" in the community but he still winds up mostly on his own. He wrote a terrific piece for his local rag and they printed it. He is happy that more people are honking in support. But still he is mostly on his own.
All that being said, neither of these young men are as concerned as their parents or I. Neither will put a foot forward and possibly risk their careers. Both treat me a tad condescendingly. Until we get them, it will continue.
DWD - I agree with Ruth.
I agree with you too. The "conservatism" we see today are nothing like "conservatism classic." That said, we are a two party country. The only way to get rid of the Republicans is to elect Democrats. To this end we have to unite around candidates and plan for the long term.
Finding and developing canditates: We Democrats have not done enough to groom young people for governing. Our candidate pipeline is pretty empty.
Rebuilding the Democratic party: From the bottom up. This is how the Republicans did it.
DLC: Either clean house or get rid of it. At the very least, neutralize it.
Howard Dean: Let him lead. He has great ideas and a proven track record as a leader.
What we can't do is wait for a candidate that meets our purity standards.
Observation: Damn! The story of the shooting in Miami has really disppeared quickly, hasn't it? The last news story I am aware of was two days ago now. It stated uneqivocally that NO - ZERO - ZIP passengers heard the man say he had a bomb.
Now, as a professional paranoid I wonder where has this story gone?
Either they get it, or they won't. They either come along, or their left to fend for themselves.That's the way I see it, QL.
If people aren't smart enough through basic common sense to see all the sides of these complex, moral and philosophically demanding issues with this administration - in order to come to a decision that will affect every aspect of their lives hereafter -
I have nothing for them. Fuck 'em. They show up late for the game, well... sorry, the gate is close.
Find your own way home. We gave you enough clues. You just thought you knew better. That's the problem.
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Another futile attempt to ban and censor me
Give up Wanker
fy needs to look in the mirror to see who the wanker is.
Dumbass.
Arabella, you are onto a serious problem, okay, the Rethugs have blown it. Ethically, financially, morally, even rationally, but we have to be the serious alternative. While I respect a number of Dems, and really like the Underthirtygang in Congress, it would be good to see them putting together a powerful legislative package to push - even knowing the powers of rethuggery will not let it be even considered in Congress. But maybe it's best not to get too much of a target for the rethugs to gather together defenses against. They're pretty well established as corporate world darlings. I don't say corporate America since that group doesn't seem to have this country as its main allegiance.
BD, now, that FY is just fucking pitiful, isn't it?
Must be a half dozen people here and he decides to be an asshole. (If I am going to take the time to be a jerk, I at least would want an audience)
Yeah, DWD.. that's no shit.
I'd wait until at least 11 p.m or something when theres a few thousand people lurking about.
But oh man.... this here 4-5 of us - WOW!!! Talk about yer impact statements -
NOT.
Ruth - Yes, it's a very serious problem. Our country is in crisis. We need to do the expedient thing. Get Democrats elected. So far the Democratic party has not taken the lead in getting rid of an evil and corrupt government. I would go so far as to say that the Democrats (some anyway) have been willing accomplices.
But: Get the republicans out, get the republicans out, get the republicans out..
Support ELF rights.
Vote SPEW not blue.
You cannot censor me and I will not stop.
Ah, shaddup fy.
bush: done, ruined and fucked
I GOT BLITSTERS ON MY FINGERS!!!
John Lennon quote.
Arabella - willing accomplices yes, because their hands are being greased also by their corporate masters.
They are just as complicit as the republicans, in many, many ways.
That is just a stone cold fact.
Morning
Blisters I meant. Damn. I'm still up and you people are just getting up. Night shift on the left coast.
For the last fourteen years either one or both of my sons have played hockey. That meant traveling somewhere on Saturday to watch a game. This year no one is playing, the house is sleeping, and I am still recovering from the muscle spasms: I may just go back and try some beauty sleep.
If I were writing something, this is the perfect time: but I am not. Just waiting for the book to be done. (I do have to say that holding the finished book in your hands is a feeling that is hard to describe. Good, of course, but even more importantly it gives just a little glimpse of immortality and that is a nice feeling.
Barndog - you are 100% correct. In the next couple of election cycles we have to work with these Republican ennablers. Too bad, but they're all we have. We have to get rid of the republicans.
But I don't say that we should go along with business as usual. We have to rebuild the party. In lots of places that's happening already at the lower levels.
I GOT BLITSTERS ON MY FINGERS!!!
It was actually Ringo who said that.
Daybreak on the North Coast 
here. Morning teh cute blogwhore.
It was not Ringo.
John said it because he was playing the same lick over and over.
Why would Ringo have blisters on his fingers?
The reason why the son of a bitch in chief thinks he can get away with it is because he understands privelege. Privelege is something awarded by those who have the power to judge,either legally or socially. Those who judge also have the power to censure. The thugs have the money and therefore control of those who are in a position to censure on a broad scale: the media and, to far too large an extent, the courts and congress. All this is to heady for George to figure, out of course. This is really just like the time when he was 19 and drove over the neighbor's lawn, drunk, and his dad asked the cops to "let me handle it". No real consquence.
But: Get the republicans out, get the republicans out, get the republicans out..
Arabella
I agree about 95%. I see a problem though with everyone going back to sleep once we get these fucktards out. But for now,there really is no ther solution.
I half heard on the radio about experiments in trying to create a robot that appears intelligent. Part of it was having the robot respond by repeating words spoken to it. I immediately thought of fy. What a stupid piece of illiterate shit he is. He aint even green. More brown.
I GOT BLITSTERS ON MY FINGERS!!!
And it was, I believe, Jeff Gannon who said, "I GOT BLITZER ON MY FINGERS!"
er...sorry.
Yes, Barndog & Arabella, there is a real need to get real representation in there. And it's only possible as far as I can see if they're Dems, because the rethug party is dominant. Goes to any ends to get its troops in line. That leaves no room for representing the electorate. So yes, it has to be a Dem party representation, because they are the only ones able to carry out the oath of office.
Thank You watertiger.
The repugs are really exploiting the Leiberman thing to the hilt and there is no way he is going to become Sec. of Defense. The repugs have certainly learned their Marxist doctine well as exemplified by their exploitation of useful idiots. I wonder who the influential learned Nazi and Marxist mentors are of this horrible party who seem to have incorporated it all into our unsuspecting country. Is it CATO or others of the fat funded tax free think tanks or what? Or can we hang it on the wealthy neocans or are they all the same thing. What a scary bunch of fuckers!
What a great photo. Puts me in a good mood for the day.
Bush: Done, ruined and fucked.
Arabella,
This should temper that joy.
SSquirrel: just sent you an email w/subject line FW:Finnegan the Squirrel. You'll have a good relationship with Finnegan's mom, I'm sure.
I read that when the Bushistas found out that Bill Clinton was asked to speak at the conference for the environment, they went ballistic and told the people involved that if Clinton spoke, the US would totally back out of it all. (I wasn't aware that they were involved at all in environmental responsibility, etc.). If that is total elementary school horseshit behavior!!!! They just can't resist acting like the gestapo of the world.
watertiger: bwah! You have outdone yourself. "Rilly big shew, a rilly big shew. Next up, Topo Gigo."
Goddamn, it's been a while since I've laughed so hard.
Wow, I was just polled by Zogby, who seems to think that Mark Warner is a viable candidate for 08. I only know the name.
While you guys speak of torture, can you purchase torture devices at Amazon????
http://tinyurl.com/9qgec
...I was just polled by Zogby...
And I think we all know just how painful that can be!
/letterman/
Ba-doom-bah!
'They just can't resist acting like the gestapo of the world.'
Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Regretably, when certain types have the power in their hands, they kind of lets down on the Mr. nice guy routine.
There are plenty of torture devices at Amazon...books by Coulter, Maglangalangadingdong, O'Reilly, Gibson, etc.
Good morning, moonbats.
"Wow, I was just polled by Zogby, who seems to think that Mark Warner is a viable candidate for 08. I only know the name."
--NYMary
Me too. Can't believe they didn't include Gore's name on the list.
Great pics Ruth, gonna be one confused squirrel though.
It must be too early still for bad jokes...
I got polled by Zogby too.
Do you strongly agree, agree, or kind of agree with the following statements:
George Bush is the greatest president ever.
Special Prosecutor Fitzgerald is wasting millions of dollars of tax payers money to pursue a political agenda.
Victory is at hand in Iraq.
Hillary Clinton is a elitist who wants to make abortions available on demand at a series of drive-in abortion clinics owned by her lesbian lover.
Joe Leiberman is a statesman and an American hero who has exposed the hypocricy of the Democrat Party.
bush: done, ruined and fucked.
They asked about Warner, H. Clinton, and Kerry. For the thugs, only Rice.
NYMary
Warner has done some really good things here in VA considering he inherited a republican run trainwreck.
NYMary
Warner has done some really good things here in VA considering he inherited a republican run trainwreck.
I didn't do the Zogby poll. But wasn't he closest to picking the winner (Kerry) of the 2004 election than anyone else?
The Left Coaster is dead on. This blog really sucks.
I hear there's an article in tomorrow's NYT mag that says the same.
If they were asking about Warner, Hillary, and Kerry, obviously they're polling for Warner. No other reason why his name would be included with the other two.
My favorite question: "Aside from George W. Bush, which world leader do you admire most?" And the next: "Aside from George W. Bush, which world leader do you admire least?"
Oddly, Bush *was* an option, for both questions.
If they were asking about Warner, Hillary, and Kerry, obviously they're polling for Warner. No other reason why his name would be included with the other two.
That was my assumption. I'm glad to hear he's doing good things in VA, but he's definitely a dark horse.
I kept waiting to be asked about Feingold.
Morning, rational people.
Damn, sleep in and it -still- isn't even dawn yet. I am NOT gonna drive clear out to the dentist in the dark, that's just more than fair.
El Supremo - I can't find the article you mentioned in the New York Times Magazine Section. What is the title and author? There are lots of short articles in this week's edition.
thanks
This should temper that joy.
watertiger
He looks a little like that Goober guy as well.
This just in:
El Supremo really blows goats. Film at 11.
"If they were asking about Warner, Hillary, and Kerry, obviously they're polling for Warner. No other reason why his name would be included with the other two.
Jennifer"
dunno....much talk about Warner..he's been making the media rounds and can raise $ like no one's business. noticed on the gooper side they had rice and mccain...
I'm warming to a Gore/Warner ticket.
Still think Allen for the Repugs.
"I kept waiting to be asked about Feingold.
NYMary"
i'm afraid you'll be waiting a looong time.
Last night I watched a movie on television that took place in Amsterdam. It brought back some memories of the times I spent there. All I could think about was I wish I could march couple of my fundie neighbor females (and their idiot husbands) down the streets where the ladies are displaying their wares legally in the front windows with the red lights. It has been forty years since I saw the ladies and what I have learned in the interim is how warm I can feel about a country who tolerates the humanness of it populace--from its toleration of some drug use to the ladies of the night where as in this bastard country we just lock everybody the fuck up and make their lives even more intolerable.
I had oportunity to drive through a neighboring suburb which is the county seat yesterday. I don't know how many "street" people I saw dragging their carts and boxes down the street after a rather large snow trying to look respectable and normal and pretend that nobody will notice. I could only imagine where they spent the cold night. It breaks my heart. My country is broken.
NYMary - I'm with you on Feingold. I think he'd made a GREAT president, and think he could win if people got to know him. Which is why he probably has zero chance of getting the nod from the Dems.
"Still think Allen for the Repugs.
SSquirrel"
i'm thinking one of the best they could put up would be huckabee from arkansas...saw him on teevee and although he looks like the typical gop fascist/loon, doesn't come off as one...
Edwards/Feingold
or
Clark/?
Oh, right. They did ask about McCain. (What psychological process was responsible for me suppressing that?)
And the world is changing, folks. *I* want a wreath of potatoes, roses, and green beans!
SSquirrel: I see animal behaviorists have decided that dogs laugh, so imagine la Papillon mom has no language problem.
NY Mary: weird questions indeed.
Especially where they give no choices not involving 'disagree' relating to shrub as a great pres.
I got 'polled' by a rethug once with questions designed only to alienate you from Dems. Maybe this is the latest variant.
Warner's been talked about for years. Able to carry a red state etc. Allot of beltway types live in Virginia. And he just got his successor elected.
Ah, OK. Here it is:
"Conservative Blogs are More Effective." By Michael Crowley.
I'm a gettin' old, but I swear we read and discussed this article before.
El Supremo - The article does not say that Eschaton sucks. Perhaps I missed the reference.
McCain/Allen would be tough to beat nationally. I think the nomination process would be a train wreck for the GOP.
And he just got his successor elected.
What is he doing now?
"Conservative Blogs are More Effective." By Michael Crowley.
I'm a gettin' old, but I swear we read and discussed this article before.
El Supremo - The article does not say that Eschaton sucks. Perhaps I missed the reference.
Troll's just trying to wind you up, Arabella. Too bad for him we actually read things and think about what they mean, which, as you note, we did yesterday.
I don't know who the Rethugs are going to run for Prez in '08, but I'm almost certain Rice will be on that ticket, more than likely as VP. I'm betting they think this will somehow make them look "progressive".
Of course, this is assuming that Rice won't be under indictment by then.
jdw - that's because you don't know Huckabee the way we know Huckabee.
Here's some of his greatest hits: Threatening to veto a bill unless wording "acts of God" to describe natural disasters is changed;
Writing a book to capitalize on the school shootings in Jonesboro, AR, then pocketing the proceeds from the book rather than giving it to the family;
Petty graft - using the governor's mansion fund to buy his family's personal items; accepting over $150,000 worth of prohibited "gifts" in a single year;
And much, much more.
He's like W in a way; enjoys the "prestige" of office but has absolutely no interest in doing the job. He's been MIA during the last two legislative sessions (and hell, we only have one lasting 3 months every other year).
And were you aware that he's a former Baptist minister?
Mark Warner was not at all a bad governor. He did inherit a train wreck, and he stabilized the state economy, and managed the VERY difficult task of actually getting laws put into place in spite of a horrendous "good ol' boy" network of (mostly Republican) state legislators.
I don't know how he'd be as a president. One thing I do know, he's very smart, and that is something I have missed sorely these long 5 years. As Mr. Hattie puts it, "Doesn't it stand to reason that the president of the United States should be, above all else, extremely intelligent?"
But I guess it's too "elitist" to want a smart person in charge of the country.
"And he just got his successor elected.
What is he doing now?
NYMary"
raising $, pimping himself for potus.
Those would be little tiny new potatoes, green beans and roses, right? I mean a couple of Idaho bakers would be a little awkward in wreathing. Maybe not.
Oh dearie me. We did discuss Crowley's article yesterday. Old news.
And the world is changing, folks. *I* want a wreath of potatoes, roses, and green beans!
NYMary
I find it interesting that the Bush regime has totally ignored South America for five years.
The result? Growing democracy and a growing move to the left.
Heh, heh, heh.
Mr. Morales, 46, a former llama herder and coca farmer who has a slight lead in the polls for the election on Dec. 18, offers what may be the most radical vision in Latin America, much to the dismay of the Bush administration.
Now, why would Bush be upset about this guy? After all, if Mr. Morales gets elected, he could probably get Georgie all the product the Loser in Chief needs to forget about his sinking poll numbers.
"The result? Growing democracy and a growing move to the left."
What do you bet that they won't ignore it much longer?
Of course, this is assuming that Rice won't be under indictment by then.
Oh, that wouldn't stop them.
What is he doing now?
He just stayed someones execution, because the DNA evidence was mishandled.
"But I guess it's too "elitist" to want a smart person in charge of the country.
tinfoil hattie"
I saw a long interview of him...his life story is very interesting...his failed business, and then enormous success in biz is an 'american dream'-type story. i like this guy a lot, but he doesn't have tons of charisma, imo...he does have tons and tons of $...
The New York Times Magazine section has an article about young conservative men who are shunning the corporate fast track and electing to be stay-at-home bloggers.
Those would be little tiny new potatoes,
I was thinking salt potatoes, but yeah. I mean, if they were big, they'd crush the roses.
Of course, this is assuming that Rice won't be under indictment by then.
Oh, that wouldn't stop them.
NYMary
Right. I mean, wasn't Darth Cheney in Texas last week helping DeLie raise money?
Good morning...
Where's the girl? Where's the girl?- Dirty Harry torture quote.
I get to see the Duchamp exhibit today!
i like this guy a lot, but he doesn't have tons of charisma, imo...he does have tons and tons of $...
jdw
I like him too, but he has one problem that really shouldn't be a problem. He looks goofy in a kind of Lincoln without the beard way. Many people think Lincoln would never be electable with today's visual media.
He just stayed someones execution, because the DNA evidence was mishandled.
Oh, come now. We know real governors never stay executions and in fact mock the condemned.
jdw, you're right -- he's not increidibly charismatic. But that may work to his advantage in some instances. He's not really stiff and uncomfortable like Kerry, either. He's just sort of non-glamorous. And he did get another Dem elected in this oh-so-red state of mine.
Though most of the last dozen or so of Virginia's governors have been dems.
One reason I like him is he really seemed to endorse his successor, whom I really do like. Tim Kaine handled most of his gubernatorial campaign with grace and aplomb (though there was some flap about sending out misleading mailings?). Mark Warner campaigned vigorously for Kaine, against a very popular opponent.
By the way, in an amazingly short-sighted law the the VA asembly refuses to change, Virginia governors can only serve one 4-year term.
I mean, wasn't Darth Cheney in Texas last week helping DeLie raise money?
Why yes, yes he was.
Mark my words: it's the money that's going to bring these guys down.
Right. I mean, wasn't Darth Cheney in Texas last week helping DeLie raise money?
Anymore, getting indicted for something seems to be a GOP badge of honor. I guess when George gets nailed with war crimes charges in the future, he'll be considered King Shit of the GOP Turd Mountain.
Oh, come now. We know real governors never stay executions and in fact mock the condemned.
It's like nuanced thought from outer-space. 
"Doesn't it stand to reason that the president of the United States should be, above all else, extremely intelligent?"
the problem is NOT that the Chimperor is not smart. He's plenty 'smart,' in his own way.
the problem is that what the Busheviks are doing--their agenda--is entirely counterintuitive. We do NOT expect that the Preznit would be devoted to, and would devote his whole regime to, actually UNDERMINING the peace and security of the People. THat just doesn't make sense, in our ordinary calculus of national leadership.
but it DOES make sense if the agenda of the 'leaders' is to attack, and destroy, the faith and trust of the People in the very principles and institutions of their own quasi-democratic, republican self-government...
...
Virginia governors can only serve one 4-year term.
tinfoil hattie
In a row. He has expressed interest in running again.
Okay, what's this crap about Bush's standing rising in the polls??
One poll has him all the way up to 42% which is terrible, and MSNBC is acting like he's on top of the world.
Jesus, will they never stop propping up this dangerous fool?
FWIW, I chose Chavez as the world leader I admired most.
Imagine the administration doing something like this about anything:
http://www.nola.com/katrina/view.ssf
It rankles -me- pretty damn good too. What's next? I know - that pesky thing about women voting - the Founders didn't mean that, of course....
GOP Faction Wants to Change 'Birthright Citizenship' Policy
By Warren Vieth
LA Times Staff Writer
December 10, 2005
WASHINGTON — For nearly 140 years, any child born on U.S. soil, even to an illegal immigrant, has been given American citizenship. Now, some conservatives in Congress are determined to change that.
A group of 92 lawmakers in the House will attempt next week to force a vote on legislation that would revoke the principle of "birthright citizenship," part of a broader effort to discourage illegal immigration.
The push to change the citizenship policy is backed by some conservative activists and academics. But it could cause problems for the White House and the Republican Party, which have been courting Latino voters. GOP officials fear the effort to eliminate birthright citizenship will alienate a key constituency, even if the legislation ultimately is rejected by Congress or the courts.
The principle at issue rests on the first sentence of the 14th Amendment, ratified in 1868 to guarantee the rights of emancipated slaves: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside."
Some lawmakers advocating tougher immigration laws contend that the amendment has been misinterpreted for decades. Conservatives maintain that although illegal immigrants are subject to criminal prosecution and are expected to abide by U.S. laws and regulations, they are not "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States in the full sense intended by the amendment's authors — and their children therefore fall outside the scope of its protection.
Those who want to change the interpretation acknowledge that illegal immigration is largely driven by the hunger for jobs at U.S. wages. But they also say that for some immigrants, automatic citizenship provides another compelling incentive to cross the border. They note that the United States is one of few major industrialized nations that grant birthright citizenship with no qualifications.
"Illegal immigrants are coming for many different reasons," said Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Texas), one of the lawmakers pushing for the House measure. "Some are coming for jobs. Some are coming to give birth. Some are coming to commit crimes. Addressing this problem is needed if we're going to try to combat illegal immigration on all fronts."
But the proposal may rankle Latino voters.
Damn, sleep in and it -still- isn't even dawn yet. I am NOT gonna drive clear out to the dentist in the dark, that's just more than fair.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar
For me, it's only a couple doors down, but it is still not the way I prefer to spend my Saturday mornings. Only 2 more appointments to go.
Is it just me or is it ironic that one of the French's big contribution to war (a trebuchet) is a machine that was eventually used to hurl flaming balls of feces at their enemies from a mile away?
Just a thought.
Bush has a 30% base that will always support him no matter what. There's a range of 10 -13% of the population who drift back and forth. The 13 percenters want to believe in Bush and were appeased by his PowerPoint presentation. The 13 percenters wanted to see a plan. They saw a plan. They're OK with Bush for the time being. The 13 percenters are not hard core supporters, so they could drift off again.
We have the president we deserve.
Did ya ever get home and find the idjit aat Sam's Club did not take the cd out of the theft proof container? Or does this shit just happen to me?
Good morning Eschatonians.
KidsWB moved Yu-Gi-Oh to 10:30am central dammit! Got record that show!
Touch of Evil on now on TCM
Well, I'm off to work for a few hours. Have a great day, bats!
I shudder to think of George Allen being president. He's dubya redux.
I recall reading an article, years ago, that said Allen supposedly tossed his brother through a plate-glass window when they were teens.
Can't guarantee the veracity of my memory, or of the article.
But I remember being horrified, and thinking: This person is a very bad man.
He was a TERRIBLE governor for Virginia.
Touch of Evil on now on TCM
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar
The opening tracking shot is brilliant.
The 13 percenters are not hard core supporters, so they could drift off again.
Well if they're that easy to sway, it's time to slap my "Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry" bumper sticker on again.
I was thinking salt potatoes, but yeah. I mean, if they were big, they'd crush the roses.
NYMary
I can sort of see the green beans as fringe. Do you suppose there's corn involved as well?
He was a TERRIBLE governor for Virginia.
tinfoil hattie
Can you say SOL?
Oh well, it's starting to lighten up. I guess I'll go all the way out to Scottsdale for the festival of teeth cleaning after all.
It's not that the 13 percenters are easy to sway, it's that they're lazy thinkers. They want to believe that America is the best country ever, that Americans are the best people ever, and that everyone in the whole wide world is jealous of us because of our freedom. If the 13 percenters see the little man behind the curtain, they get upset.
We have the president we deserve.
Tim Finnegan
Bullshit, Gore or Kerry sure, we would deserve them, hell we probably elected them. Nobody, 'specially not all the dead kids beserve Bush.
"The Cream of Clapton" seems an odd title don'cha think?
We have neglected our fences.
I agree with Tim. This is a country filled with willfully ignorant, self indulgent bigots. Americans are children who want instant gratification and do not want to hear anything bad about themselves. Bush managed to get 40% of the vote. As hateful as he is, people voted for him. The majority of people in this country think the bible is factual. We are one of the last countries to use the death penalty. We engage in acts of hostility up to and including wat. We meddle in foriegn affaires. I could go on and on, but the point is that most people don't care enough to vote.
"The 13 percenters are not hard core supporters, so they could drift off again.
Arabella"
i'm convinced that the only reason some of them 13% are now ok with chimpy is because gas has gone from $3 to $2 a gallon. and i'm also convinced that the only reason this occurred is that the fucking chimp made a few phone calls to the oil companies and asked them to temporarily stop their raping for the xmas buying season...
the point is that most people don't care enough to vote.
Arabella
That's certainly true. The decline in voting over the last 30 years is shameful.
Still, it can be overcome. Al Franken did a show from UM-Duluth and he had a couple of students from MPIRG on who did some serious work registering and promoting voting among the college students.
The results in the 2004 election was that 85% of that campus voted.
Massive work on getting out the vote might turn things around.
I am constantly appalled by the gulf between the teachings of Christ and Christianity.
I am constantly appalled by the gulf between the teachings of Christ and Christianity.
SSquirrel - - 9:17 am
didja read the December Harper's?
must read it...two really great articles on that very subject...
Massive work on getting out the vote might turn things around.
Diane - 9:16 am
might...
but prolly won't...
it doesn't matter who votes; it matters who counts the votes...
""Doesn't it stand to reason that the president of the United States should be, above all else, extremely intelligent?"
Above all he should be a decent responsible human being that cares about the people of the country.
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