I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Damn, Atrios.
20 seconds, 20 seconds. Now.
Looks like the same Joementum to me.
Joe is a useless, IOKIYAR-embracing fuckhead.
Maybe the extra threads will confuse the trolls.
They're easily confused.
And led.
well, joe's certainly right in this statement.
only pres. fuckwit want's absolute rule, governing is for pussys.
Looks like the same Joementum to me.
Max Planck
feel the joementum.
"Looks like the same Joementum to me."
--Max Planck
Yes, but with more emphasis. Joe is truly a looser. My mom liked him, but I never did.
I'm gonna post this one again, cos I think laughter is important.
Go here
Type in the Eschaton(or any)URL and pick either "hacker" or "swedish chef" as the dialect.
I promise, it's worth it.
My mom liked him, but I never did.
mer
how can you like joe liebeman, he's grey.
OK, now it's different Joementum. Tricky Joementum.
I only wish there was a way to make it work with the haloscan window.
Of course, my mom was 81 at the time. Can argue with her, but can't blame her.
I only wish there was a way to make it work with the haloscan window.
http://rinkworks.com/dialect/
dia...424784682626882
so is there any lowellmentum going on? i hope he runs against this loser.
I always liked Joe Lieberzzzzzzzzz...
Maybe Old Joe is getting senile?
Lieberman is a looser.
Heh heh.
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I guess Joe saw the poll numbers from fluffing Dumbya and realized it was the politics of personal destruction at its worst as well.
A Dims knows the lightness of a gracless shame.
Oh my god...
Exactly WHICH Democrats does Choad Lieberman speak for?
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So, Joe, he is a politician, no?
OT:
Has anyone seen aeon flux on The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe yet? Any recommendations?
It's Joe Lieberman Day at Eschaton.
"gracless"
WTF?
I like "ted" in his new "dith" costume.
did you all know that WOMEN CAUSE 90% of ALL DIVORCES. just go read dith's book, it's all there.
did you all know that WOMEN CAUSE 90% of ALL DIVORCES. just go read dith's book, it's all there.
Something to do with withholding their froth holes.
Don't you find it odd that Joe is praising the administration, when, and only when, Bush's poll numbers are going up?
He just wants to be on the winning side, folks...like a lot of pols.
(yes, I know that 40% approval doesn't equal mass approval. He just doesn't have a soul)
did you all know that WOMEN CAUSE 90% of ALL DIVORCES. just go read dith's book, it's all there.
Lots of divorced men are bitter. Few of them are so stupid that they write it all down and publish a book about it. Just sayin'
Joementum is a spittle man.
I only wish there was a way to make it work with the haloscan window.
I'm max planX0r with the hacker dialect!!!!!!!!!!11~~~~ LOOLOLO!!!!!!!!1
kinda OT, but not really: NYT just put up a monster article on the web on our propaganda efforts....
Propaganda
Military's Information War Is Vast and Often Secretive
By JEFF GERTH
Published: December 11, 2005
In state of the art studios, producers prepare the daily mix of music and news for the group's radio stations or spots for friendly television outlets. Writers putting out newspapers and magazines in Baghdad and Kabul converse via teleconferences. Mobile trailers with high-tech gear are parked outside, ready for the next crisis.
The center is not part of a news organization, but a military operation, and those writers and producers are soldiers. The 1,200-strong psychological operations unit based at Fort Bragg turns out what its officers call "truthful messages" to support the United States government's objectives, though its commander acknowledges that those stories are one-sided and their American sponsorship is hidden...
I'm max planX0r with the hacker dialect!!!!!!!!!!11~~~~ LOOLOLO!!!!!!!!1
*shakes head sadly*
Wow.
Thanks for retrieving all those quotes, Atrios.
Shows the utter hypocrisy of Lieberman.
Conscience of the party, my ass.
"It's Joe Lieberman Day at Eschaton."
--Ridnik Chrome
You almost got that right.
Really it's Joe Looserman Day at Eschaton.
Damn.
I just put "OK Computer" on my iPod.
I haven't listened to it in a long time.
What a fantastic album!
carry on about Joementum....
Max - you've seen this, right? If you like L33tspeak, this is for you.
the worst thing about Joementum is the perpetual whine pitch of his. he gives whiners everywhere a bad name.
but I liked the "bullshit moose" appelation for that Republican who pretends to be a DLC Dem. purge them both.
are half of us here and the otherhalf downstairs?
are we forming cliques?
ok, blak that was funny. good catch.
Ho Mentum, ain't it grand?
I'm still in the throes of hideous laughter right now...
Zap,
Those are some great pics on your blog. Love the one of the rowhouses.
Hey Hecate: thanks; Rimbaud would be right up her alley. Less sure about Dorothy Parker; she might even like 'Big Blonde' more than some of the poetry--hard to tell...
Not hard to find words for Lieberman to eat cold, now, is it?
Max - you've seen this, right? If you like L33tspeak, this is for you.
Eli
I don't remember "Dude, WTF?" being in Hamlet.
are we forming cliques?
I wanna be in whatever clique Kid Charlamenge is in. He's got photos of dith blowing goats. sign me up for that.
Propaganda By JEFF GERTH
Truth in advertising.
"...turns out what its officers call 'truthful messages' to support the United States government's objectives, though its commander acknowledges that those stories are one-sided and their American sponsorship is hidden..."
--smarty jones
Sometimes this scares me more than anything else.
People want to believe what they hear, but I'll be goddamned if I believe anything they say anymore. The Boy Who Cried Wolf has done it too many times.
Dim In Repose Over Sewer
The dim croaks
frog-like
though more shrill
as the beads
of its eyes
blaze
over the sewer
and the odor
of the sewer
vodkas
to its nostrils...
Prof Wombat,
Good luck; I know you'll find some poetry for her to enjoy.
You're all missing the obvious. Joe does an absolute 180, just as the country is waking up to what a clusterfuck this regime has wrought.
They must have pictures. Maybe even video, with sound.
dith blows goats. Kid Charlamenge has the photos.
pass it on.
They must have pictures. Maybe even video, with sound.
Entirely likely.
Sharks or Jets?
Skins or Shirts?
Montagues or Capulets?
And when I get sick of reading this thread in l33t, I can read it in Chefspeak.
You're all missing the obvious. Joe does an absolute 180, just as the country is waking up to what a clusterfuck this regime has wrought.
Joe is one of those people whose advice is incredibly valuable, so long as you always do the exact opposite.
Eugene McCarthy has died. Damn.
mer- just do what i do: if it's a republican speaking, assume it's a lie until you have proof otherwise.
"Dims"?
GOURDHEAD!
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whahah?
Zap,
Those are some great pics on your blog. Love the one of the rowhouses.
Hecate
Thanks, dearest.
I've got this week off; so I'm gonna do some research on some of the houses around here.
(BTW: they're effing high end condo's.)
I still think Ann Coulter's Adam's apple is bigger than Joementum's.
VTF? Bork Bork Bork!
first time i ever saw a rat get ON a sinking ship.
mer- just do what i do: if it's a republican speaking, assume it's a lie until you have proof otherwise.
Yep. And if they announce a policy that actually sounds good, I assume they either won't follow through, or they'll cripple or corrupt it so much that we'd be better off without it.
I still think Ann Coulter's Adam's apple is bigger than Joementum's.
Max Planck
And so is "Ann's" -uh- ... never mind.
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Eugene McCarthy has died. Damn.
Hecate
Aw....sad news.
Rest in the peace you tried so hard to bring.
Eugene McCarthy forced the Democrats to take opposition to the war in Viet Nam seriously. And, he wrote poetry. He used to eat at an Italian restaurant near my office once in a while, but I haven't seen him there in a few years.
May the Goddess guard him. May his friends and family know peace. May he find his way to the summerlands.
first time i ever saw a rat get ON a sinking ship.
First time I ever saw gary in fl say something that made me want to applaud.
Eugene McCarthy has died. Damn.
Hecate
My home town hero.
RIP: Clean Gene.
Eugene McCarthy has died. Damn. Hecate
Damn.
DRONEgarryyinflllDRONEgarryyinflllDRONEgarryyinfll
DRONEgarryyinflllDRONEgarryyinflllDRONEgarryyinfll
Damn. I thought we fixed the old Norge.
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Has anyone seen aeon flux or The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe yet? Any recommendations?
The few reviews I've seen so far of TLTW&TW have been mildly positive. I'm usually alone in New York on Christmas Day, so I've gotten into the habit of going to see a movie (I prefer to go back home to visit on Thanksgiving, since any sane person would rather be in Chicago in late November than late December). I saw the three LOTR movies on Christmas 2001-03, and the Lemony Snicket movie last year, and this year I'm leaning towards seeing the Narnia movie. Loved the books as a kid, but I'm worrying that the fundies will try to turn the film into the kids' version of "The Passion of the Christ".
...they'll cripple or corrupt it so much that we'd be better off without it."
--Eli
You're giving them too much credit. They annouce it and then ignore it. It never gets out of the starting gate.
Has anyone seen aeon flux on The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe yet?
I think I might see The Lion etc. this afternoon.
It beats thinking about what a fucking WANKEr joementum is.
They must have pictures. Maybe even video, with sound.
ql in ny
what i wonder is did they have a sit down and work it all out. here is what you will say in the WSJ preceding pres. dumbasses annapolis lie fest.
joe's right about one thing, we have to live with this fuckwit for another 3 years. be nice to see him at least try to fig. out, and solve a problem. stop gaming every situation for a political advantage.
but that's not going to happen, so instead i hope fitz hammers that asshole rove, i really do.
It’s not just about 16 words in a speech, it is about distorting intelligence and diminishing credibility.
Who can tell what Fitzmas may bring?
Will lawbreakers stand up and sing?
Will somebody roll
To get out of the hole,
And piss off the fucking right wing?
They must have pictures. Maybe even video, with sound.
Yeah. THey've got pictures of him eating a ham sammich. On saturday.
Eugene
tried out some jeans
after eating so many beans
they didn't fit
so he decided
to aquit
before
it became
lit
Please, let us start a war on people using "looser" for "loser". I rarely see the word spelled correctly.
Oh, and if Jomentum joins the Bush Maladministration then maybe a Democrat can take his place in the Senate.
Yay, Lime Rickey!
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You're giving them too much credit. They annouce it and then ignore it. It never gets out of the starting gate.
AIDS relief. But then you also have stuff like No Child Left Behind, which I think is a trojan horse to dumb children down to the point where they provide a permanent Republican majority.
four legs- snigger. wasn't that a comedy routine back in the 60s? a woody allen skit, or something?
Who's the new "dith ship"?
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Who can tell what Fitzmas may bring?
Will lawbreakers stand up and sing?
Will somebody roll
To get out of the hole,
And piss off the fucking right wing?
I plan to do the Hamsherdance.
first time i ever saw a rat get ON a sinking ship.
Too many operant conditioning experiments!
AIDS relief. But then you also have stuff like No Child Left Behind
No no, they're gonna do it. A NCLB poster child is going to drive the AIDS relief money over to Africa in a hydrogen car.
DU reports richard pryor is dead! serious bummer...
you also have stuff like No Child Left Behind, which I think is a trojan horse to dumb children down to the point where they provide a permanent Republican majority.
Eli
That's what I thought the first time I heard that bullshit from Prince Fuckwit.
He wants to create a generation of people as stupid as he is!
Joe's now trying to get a job in the Bush administration. The bad things he said about Bush a couple of years are no longer on his resume.
Kind of like Alito's statements in favor of outlawing abortion when he was interviewing for a job in the Reagan adminstration. It's only fair he be judged by his self-serving statements he comes while interviewing for his next job.
DU reports richard pryor is dead! serious bummer...
chicago dyke
I HOPE that isn't true!
Richard Pryor was the best.
OT: ProfWombat, if you are still around: I sent a couple of poem/songs to you. Enjoy.
Eugene McCarthy was educated by the Benedictines at St. John's, Collegeville -- he was right about the war -- but wrong not to support Humphey against Nixon -- it was a close race -- "Clean Gene" could have delivered us from Nixon -- in politics it is important to chose the lesser of two evils -- it makes a difference
Hecate --
No one (NO ONE) likes AeonFlux -- viewers are divinded on "The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe" -- WARNING -- SPOILER ALERT --THE WITCH IS THE BAD GUY! (Just to be sure you know)
I'd like to see it -- Lewis had some good insights -- his opinion towards women changed after his marriage -- unlike many men, his opinion of women improved (snark)
Please, let us start a war on people using "looser" for "loser". I rarely see the word spelled correctly.
I hate that.
And dith - you're not cute, you're not clever, so please
Fuck off and die!
THE MAPLE TREE by Eugene McCarthy
The maple tree that night
Without a wind or rain
Let go its leaves
Because its time had come.
Brown veined, spotted,
Like old hands, fluttering in blessing,
They fell upon my head
And shoulders, and then
Down to the quiet at my feet.
I stood, and stood
Until the tree was bare
And have told no one
But you that I was there.
Eugene McCarthy has died. Damn. Hecate
Damn.
bo | Email | 12.10.05 - 4:20 pm | #
God, if he had been the Democratic
presidential candidate in 1968,
instead of that Lieberman-esque
sellout Hubert Humphrey,
this would be such a different
and better
country.
My condolences for family and friends of Richard Pryor.
RIP:
The great sci-fi writer
Robert Sheckley.
CNN has it, Richard is gone.
After reading the NYT article on propoganda (so you don't have to!) here is all you need to know:
1) the Office of Strategic Influence is alive and well;
2) the program is huge;
3) it costs a lot of money;
4) it isn't effective, and likely counter-productive.
WARNING -- SPOILER ALERT --THE WITCH IS THE BAD GUY! (Just to be sure you know)
I know. I read (and loved) the books when I was a kid. There was a great movie a while back about Lewis' marriage and subsequent loss of his wife. I can't remember its name, though.
CNN has it, Richard is gone.
BlakNo1
Damn.
If Independence Day were real life, progressives would support the green guys bent on blowing up the world so long as it would hurt the Bush administration.
I know. I read (and loved) the books when I was a kid. There was a great movie a while back about Lewis' marriage and subsequent loss of his wife. I can't remember its name, though.
Shadowlands. There were two versions, actually, but I'm assuming you're thinking of the Hopkins/Winger one.
Nothing hurts the Bush administration as much as the incompetence and corruption of the Bush administration.
Richard Pryor dead?
Oh damn......
Wow.
Eugene and Richard on the same day?
Gosh-speed, both of them.
Yeah. THey've got pictures of him eating a ham sammich. On saturday.
four legs good
Yeah, you're probably right. Joe probably can't get it up anymore.
Richard Pryor as well as Eugene McCarthy?
Mercy, today has even gotten bleaker.
WASHINGTON - Former Minnesota Sen. Eugene J. McCarthy, whose insurgent campaign toppled a sitting president in 1968 and forced the Democratic Party to take seriously his message against the Vietnam War, died Saturday. He was 89.
McCarthy died in his sleep at assisted living home in the Georgetown neighborhood where he had lived for the past few years, said his son, Michael.
Eugene McCarthy challenged President Lyndon B. Johnson for the 1968 Democratic nomination during growing debate over the Vietnam War. The challenge led to Johnson's withdrawal from the race.
The former college professor, who ran for president five times in all, was in some ways an atypical politician, a man with a witty, erudite speaking style who wrote poetry in his spare time and was the author of several books.
"He was thoughtful and he was principled and he was compassionate and he had a good sense of humor," his son said.
When Eugene McCarthy ran for president in 1992, he explained his decision to leave the seclusion of his home in rural Woodville, Va., for the campaign trail by quoting Plutarch, the ancient Greek historian: "They are wrong who think that politics is like an ocean voyage or military campaign, something to be done with some particular end in view."
McCarthy got less than 1 percent of the vote in 1992 in New Hampshire, the state where he helped change history 24 years earlier.
Helped by his legion of idealistic young volunteers known as "clean-for-Gene kids," McCarthy got 42 percent of the vote in the state's 1968 Democratic primary. That showing embarrassed Johnson into withdrawing from the race and throwing his support to his vice president, Hubert H. Humphrey.
Sen. Robert Kennedy of New York also decided to seek the nomination, but was assassinated in June 1968. McCarthy and his followers went to the party convention in Chicago, where fellow Minnesotan Humphrey won the nomination amid bitter strife both on the convention floor and in the streets.
Humphrey went on to narrowly lose the general election to Richard Nixon. The racial, social and political tensions within the Democratic Party in 1968 have continued to affect presidential politics ever since.
"It was a tragic year for the Democratic Party and for responsible politics, in a way," McCarthy said in a 1988 interview.
"There were already forces at work that might have torn the party apart anyway _ the growing women's movement, the growing demands for greater racial equality, an inability to incorporate all the demands of a new generation.
"But in 1968, the party became a kind of unrelated bloc of factions ... each refusing accommodation with another, each wanting control at the expense of all the others."
Although he supported the Korean War, McCarthy said he opposed the Vietnam War because "as it went on, you could tell the people running it didn't know what was going on."
Shadowlands. There were two versions, actually, but I'm assuming you're thinking of the Hopkins/Winger one.
That's it. Thanks.
Yeah, Debra Winger causes Hannibal to admit that his master is a Nazi with the magic lasso. Great movie.
Sad: the passing of two pretty much gentle men. Richard Pryor did his angry man routine, but I always thought it was because he was hurt so deeply. And Gene McCarthy was a good man.
Tinge the day with sadness
And call the bells to ring
For giants passed among us
Let us their praises sing.
4) it isn't effective, and likely counter-productive.
That's only because those traitors in the liberal media haven't learned to keep their mouths shut and support the troops!
Yet another proof that rendition and torture work so well:
The basis for the Assclown Posse's claim that Iraq was giving al Queda training in WMD's and support was from the confessions al-Libbi gave after being turned over to the Egyptians by the CIA. Once back in US custody, he recanted. Did that stop LBG, Rummy, et al from using it, nooooooo.
Without torture, it would not have been posible for us to invade Iraq. Has Little Bitch Georgie said that yet. Given his capacity for fracturing syntax, I wouldn't be surprised.
"There was a great movie a while back about Lewis' marriage and subsequent loss of his wife. I can't remember its name, though.
Hecate | 12.10.05 - 4:28 pm | #"
"Shadowlands" starring Hannibal Lector & the babe on the bull in "Urban Cowboy" (one of the sexist scenes in movie history -- certainly the sexiest bullride!) -- Winger was also great in the movie where Steve martin was a traveling evangelist (& Liam Neesom was the small town American sheriff -- also the voice of Aslan -- all that rises must converge!)
chicago dyke
I remember a stand-up comedy routine Woody Allen did about going to a costume party, dressed as a moose -- got lucky, the moose scored -- then he gets in a fight with another (real?) moose & gets knocked out -- someone takes him home on the hood of their car -- which is illegal Tuesdays, Thursdays, & especially Saturdays! -- is that the routine your thinking of?
It was viking hilarious!
McCarthy and Pryor? What a sad day.
More on Senator McCarthy:
In recent years, McCarthy was critical of campaign finance reform, winning him an unlikely award from the Conservative Political Action Conference in 2000.
In an interview when he got the award, McCarthy said that money helped him in the 1968 race. "We had a few big contributors," he said. "And that's true of any liberal movement. In the American Revolution, they didn't get matching funds from George III."
After the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, McCarthy said the United States was partly to blame for ignoring the plight of Palestinians.
"You let a thing like that fester for 45 years, you have to expect something like this to happen," he said in an interview at the time. "No one at the White House has shown any concern for the Palestinians."
In a 2004 biography, "Eugene McCarthy: The Rise and Fall of Postwar American Liberalism," British historian Dominic Sandbrook painted an unflattering portrait of McCarthy, calling him lazy and jealous, among other things. McCarthy, Sandbrook wrote, "willfully courted the reputation of frivolous maverick."
In McCarthy's 1998 book, "No-Fault Politics," editor Keith C. Burris described McCarthy in the introduction as "a Catholic committed to social justice but a skeptic about reform, about do-gooders, about the power of the state and the competence of government, and about the liberal reliance upon material cures for social problems."
McCarthy was born March 29, 1916, in Watkins, a central Minnesota town of about 750. He earned degrees from St. John's University in Collegeville, Minn., and the University of Minnesota.
He was a teacher, a civilian War Department employee and college economics and sociology instructor before turning to politics. He once spent a year in a monastery.
He was elected to the House in 1948. Ten years later he was elected to the Senate and re-elected in 1964. McCarthy left the Senate in 1970 and devoted much of his time to writing poetry, essays and books.
With a sardonic sense of humor, McCarthy needled whatever establishment was in power. In 1980 he endorsed Republican Ronald Reagan with the argument that anyone was better than incumbent Jimmy Carter, a Democrat.
On his 85th birthday in 2001, McCarthy told the Star Tribune of Minneapolis that President Bush was an amateur and said he could not even bear to watch his inauguration.
In an interview a month before the 2003 invasion of Iraq, McCarthy compared the Bush administration with the characters in the William Golding novel "Lord of the Flies," in which a group of boys stranded on an island turn to savagery.
"The bullies are running it," McCarthy said. "Bush is bullying everything."
McCarthy was an advocate for a third-party movement, arguing there was no real difference between Republicans and Democrats.
Winger was also great in the movie where Steve martin was a traveling evangelist
Leap Of Faith.
I'm always falling behind because I am on dialup!
There was a TV version of "Shadowlands" with English actors who looked much more the part (Joy Davidman may have been the love of Jack Lewis's life, but she was no Debra Winger!)
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat
thanx for posting that. some mighty interesting parallels in that article.
RIP Eugene McCarthy:
I've only this one consolation
As out of this old world I go:
I know that the next generation
Will resemble old Rosin the Beau.
If only.
There was a TV version of "Shadowlands" with English actors who looked much more the part (Joy Davidman may have been the love of Jack Lewis's life, but she was no Debra Winger!)
I believe Joss Ackland played Lewis, but I don't remember the female lead offhand.
If Independence Day were real life, progressives would support the green guys bent on blowing up the world so long as it would hurt the Bush administration.
The Sanity Inspector
It's NOT real life.
Oh, well...........
I know. I read (and loved) the books when I was a kid.
i loved reading the narnia books when i was young. not being raised in a xtian house, a lot of the religious stuff went right over me with no impact. my favorite was always "the voyage of the dawn treader."
but i still remember reading "the last battle." tirian and the children have decided to pretend to be people from the southern country. they stain themselves with berries to affect the skin color. tirian says to children at one point, "and then we can wash this off and become proper white narnians again."
my feelings were really hurt.
Pope Bandar bin Turtle,
Actually, the schtick starts with him shooting the moose upstate, tying it to the hood of the car, then finding that the moose isn't dead. Takes the moose to the party.
Thanks Eli (who must be stopped)--
"Leap of Faith" was one of those sleepers that was much better than it had any right to be (IMHO)
Thanks Eli (who must be stopped)--
"Leap of Faith" was one of those sleepers that was much better than it had any right to be (IMHO)
The last part of the McCarthy piece:
In 2000, he wrote a political satire called "An American Bestiary," illustrated by Chris Millis, in which high-level advisers are portrayed as park pigeons _ "they strut and waddle" _ and reporters are compared with black birds who flock together.
He blamed the media for deciding who is and is not a serious candidate and suggested he should have kept his 1992 candidacy a secret, since announcing it publicly did no good.
McCarthy also ran for president in 1972, 1976 and 1988.
For McCarthy, the 1950s and 1960s were the Democratic Party's high points because it pushed the Civil Rights Act through Congress and championed national health insurance programs such as Medicare and Medicaid.
"I think he probably would consider his work in civil rights legislation in the 1960s to be his greatest contribution," his son said Saturday.
The bad times, Eugene McCarthy said, began with America's increased involvement in the Vietnam War and the simultaneous failure of some of Johnson's Great Society social programs.
Instead of giving people a chance to earn a living, McCarthy said, the Great Society "became affirmative action and more welfare. It was an admission the New Deal had failed or fallen."
In recent years McCarthy had lived at Georgetown Retirement Residence, an assisted living center in Washington. He and his wife, Abigail, separated after the 1968 election. She died in 2001.
Survivors include daughters Ellen and Margaret and six grandchildren, Michael McCarthy said.
A private burial is planned for next week and a memorial service in Washington will be scheduled, Michael McCarthy said.
Pope Bandar bin Turtle,
apologies, read your post with only half an eyeball.
Gotta go break the news to the folks...
Bye!
which mouth was he speaking from?
regards
.
but i still remember reading "the last battle." tirian and the children have decided to pretend to be people from the southern country. they stain themselves with berries to affect the skin color. tirian says to children at one point, "and then we can wash this off and become proper white narnians again."
my feelings were really hurt.
chicago dyke
Ouch.
And that is one more reason why I prefer Charles Williams from that group of British writers.
Richard was the greatest. His shit is still incredibly funny. What a life.
That is truly fucked up when you consider that Narnians are mostly animals and the only really white one is the evil witch queen.
Diane,
Willimas was brilliant. I re-read him every few years. Not exactly for children, though.
CNN has it, Richard is gone
Gene McCarthy and Richard Pryor on the same day. That is very sad.
pope- the skit i'm thinking of is a faux game show, in black and white. one of the contestants, an orthodox jewish man, get his fondest wish on stage: to see his wife sitting at his feet eating pork while something else equally improper is going on. i thought it was a woody movie/skit, but i could be wrong.
missed the earlier threads...
If Joe is Holy,
I'm the fucking Pope.
CD, might have been that I read them as an adult but the Narnia books sure did whallop a person with Christianity. So much so that I lose interest
Robert Sheckley, the Science Fiction Author, has also passed (last night).
Filkertom, or jour old amigo Google can tell joo more about heem.
so.
CD, might have been that I read them as an adult but the Narnia books sure did whallop a person with Christianity. So much so that I lose interest
I read them as a kid and was oblivious to any Christian allegory. I liked them, but I liked the Perelandra series better.
Of course, I've always preferred sci-fi to fantasy.
Gene McCarthy and Richard Pryor dead.
Another piece of the '60s is gone.
On this date in 1993, Adolf Hitler was retroactively baptized a Mormon at the London temple to ensure that his relatives would have an easier time getting into heaven.
with all this sad news, i'll bring some better news... Dave Brubeck is 85 today and is still a cool cat.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051...n_mo/
obit_pryor
Anyone want to post their favorite Richard Pryor bits? One of mine was the "word association" sketch from Saturday Night Live (you know, back when SNL was actually funny).
more "classic lit memories" from this part native american/black woman:
reading the little house books, and discovering that Ma, "the gentlest of souls," advocates at every encounter (including as she watches the Trail of Tears parade past her house) that "the only good Injun is a dead Injun."
i'm telling you, there's a reason why i think a lot of "great" books are just shit.
Pryor died? You fuckin' kidding me?
He was awesome in his cameo for the David Lynch film... the only time they let his wheelchair become part of his character.
All these dime-a-rhyme wannabe actor rappers didn't go to bat and try to make some kind of comedy w/Pryor?
Oh, that's right, it's only an act to them.
On this date in 1993, Adolf Hitler was retroactively baptized a Mormon at the London temple to ensure that his relatives would have an easier time getting into heaven.
kei & yuri
Are you serious?
I know his half brother Alois, Jr. married an Irish girl, Bridget, and their son, William Patrick, fought in the British army during WW II.
"McCarthy was an advocate for a third-party movement, arguing there was no real difference between Republicans and Democrats."
oooh, he's not gonna be popular around here.
Of course, I've always preferred sci-fi to fantasy.
Eli | Email | Homepage | 12.10.05 - 4:42 pm | #
yet another feature of yours which defines you as a superior man.
Gene and Richard gone. Sheckley gone. That cocksucker in the White House still kickin'.
More proof there isn't a god.
All these dime-a-rhyme wannabe actor rappers didn't go to bat and try to make some kind of comedy w/Pryor?
Oh, that's right, it's only an act to them.
Mr.Murder
Those posers have no talent!
reading the little house books, and discovering that Ma, "the gentlest of souls," advocates at every encounter (including as she watches the Trail of Tears parade past her house) that "the only good Injun is a dead Injun."
i'm telling you, there's a reason why i think a lot of "great" books are just shit.
I really like Lovecraft, but his casual racism is creepy and off-putting. The "product of his times" excuse only goes so far.
But she did help those unwashed Krauts, right? It's just like John Stuart Mill: gentility for the whites. Deconstruction will save all those "classic" bigots, because honest reading would damn them.
yet another feature of yours which defines you as a superior man.
And a liberal.
It’s still swingtime for Dave Brubeck
By CHARLES J. GANS
The Associated Press
Dave Brubeck chose not to celebrate his 85th birthday quietly at his home in the Connecticut woods. Instead, his wife, children and grandchildren joined him for a sold-out concert at London’s Barbican Centre, where 2,000 fans serenaded him with a rousing chorus of “Happy Birthday,” accompanied by members of his jazz quartet and the London Symphony Orchestra.
The jazz legend, who was feted at the close of the Tuesday concert with a piano-shaped cake, could easily rest on the laurels of a storied career that has made him one of America’s most honored musicians. But he still performs 60 to 70 dates a year, mostly with his quartet, whose musical skills have reinvigorated him...
eugene mccarthy dead too.
casual racism is creepy and off-putting
Poe too.
Gene and Richard gone. Sheckley gone. That cocksucker in the White House still kickin'.
More proof there isn't a god.
The Republican assholes never seem to die young.
Stupid liberals. You don't know anything. At all. President Bush RULES this country and you have nothing to say, we aren't listening, so shut up and work harder instead of whining and classwarring.
The Republican assholes never seem to die young.
No, like 'roaches, they seem to go on and on and on.
DWD --
I think Narnia really is for kids & they do work as books for kids (OK -- the dark skinned stuff is badm CD -- Lewis was a product of his time -- I think he did get better -- marriage helped -- his theology certainly got more broad)
Kids can enjoy Narnia without noticing any Xian allegory -- I suspect the same is true of the movie
Look Ma, the emperor's clothes have no emperor in them!
Bush's popularity is easy to understand. He is pro-freedom. Liberals are against freedom, and private property and religion.
Joe is a good man for joining the winning team.
Bush's popularity is easy to understand. He is pro-freedom. Liberals are against freedom, and private property and religion.
Joe is a good man for joining the winning team.
Amercian Proud and True
Has to be a parody.
NO one is THAT fucking stupid!
Bush's popularity is easy to understand.
I blame TV.
I really like Lovecraft, but his casual racism is creepy and off-putting. The "product of his times" excuse only goes so far.
Eli
So drop it: Lovecraft was warped by a creepy bucolic New England grave life and an abusive mother, but once he got away and saw the world a bit he cleared right up. It was he who introduced interracial empathy into a science fiction then still very much in the grip of "racial realities" with his echidnodermic Old Ones. There's a huge difference between the Lovecrafts before and after that whole marrying a Jewess and rethinking his former presuppositions thing, and what really counts is that he came out of it within his time: the "time product" argument is pedantic, misleading and wrong.
Stupid liberals. You don't know anything. At all. President Bush RULES this country and you have nothing to say, we aren't listening, so shut up and work harder instead of whining and classwarring.
Freedom Loving Patriot
Same for THIS dumb fuck!
You can't stand that Joe has finally recanted, and gotten his bias behind him. If only more Democrats were as openminded and fair. But no, you shout down anywone who disagrees with you, even those with facts. You can't change reality
you have nothing to say, we aren't listening
So get the fuck off this blog, jerkoff.
I see Dumb (freedom loving patriot) and Dumber (amercian proud and true) are here!
Amercian Proud and True
What's an "Amercian"??????
Terry C: NO one is THAT fucking stupid!
This may be the most wrong you have ever been, Terry C. Well, other than the constant attention-lavishing you give to you-know-who. 
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Eli --
"That Hideous Strength" is very scary, but the characters are stereotypical -- the lesbian is so bad that it is almost hilarious -- "Perelandra" has a certain beauty (as well as horror) -- "Out of the Silent Planet" is a very clever idea thrown off as a quick novella.
I agree with Atrios that "Till We Have Faces" is one of Lews's best (& last -- I think he kept improving with age)
Joe is a good man for joining the winning team.
"Don't be stupid, be a smarty. Come and join the Nazi party."
One of mine was the "word association" sketch from Saturday Night Live (you know, back when SNL was actually funny).
Ridnik Chrome
That was my favorite too!
"DEAD honkey!"
prior my friend, please accept the gentle critique that only a white person could say what you just have. you have no idea what it felt like to realize, after spending a summer happily imagining that i was a princess in narnia, that in fact i was the 'enemy,' and akin to the evil demon worshippers in the south that aslan didn't love.
a real bombshell on the dukester case.
it's way bigger than it first seemed.
Eugene McCarthy has died. So has Richard Pryor.
"That Hideous Strength" is very scary, but the characters are stereotypical -- the lesbian is so bad that it is almost hilarious
The lesbian cop who tortures the young wife with her cigar, with the help of young British cops, all naked of course?
Helped by his legion of idealistic young volunteers known as "clean-for-Gene kids," McCarthy got 42 percent of the vote in the state's 1968 Democratic primary. That showing embarrassed Johnson into withdrawing from the race and throwing his support to his vice president, Hubert H. Humphrey.
Sen. Robert Kennedy of New York also decided to seek the nomination, but was assassinated in June 1968. McCarthy and his followers went to the party convention in Chicago, where fellow Minnesotan Humphrey won the nomination amid bitter strife both on the convention floor and in the streets.
Humphrey went on to narrowly lose the general election to Richard Nixon. The racial, social and political tensions within the Democratic Party in 1968 have continued to affect presidential politics ever since.
"It was a tragic year for the Democratic Party and for responsible politics, in a way," McCarthy said in a 1988 interview.
"There were already forces at work that might have torn the party apart anyway - the growing women's movement, the growing demands for greater racial equality, an inability to incorporate all the demands of a new generation.
"But in 1968, the party became a kind of unrelated bloc of factions ... each refusing accommodation with another, each wanting control at the expense of all the others."
openminded and fair.
LOL. Openminded and fair=accepting Republican bullshit.
I see Dumb (freedom loving patriot) and Dumber (amercian proud and true) are here!
smarty jones
Not to love Der Fuhrer IS a great disgrace.
Gene McCarthy may have "died," but he hasn't really. He's the conscience of more than we realise. That doesn't die.
I really like Lovecraft, but his casual racism is creepy and off-putting. The "product of
his times" excuse only goes so far.
Eli
Toward the end of his life,
HPL renounced his earlier racism.
If you read his letters, you can
see that he's genuinely embarassed
and pained
by what he used to believe. And
he realizes that it was all
based on ignorance.
Some people really can change for
the better.....
you shout down anywone who disagrees with you, even those with facts. You can't change reality
Amercian Proud and True
Who said irony was dead?
Chi, you seen Cannonfire on Dukester's friend Wilkes?
"I couldn't wait to kiss a pussy!"
RIP, Richard. You will be missed.
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Gene McCarthy may have "died," but he hasn't really. He's the conscience of more than we realise. That doesn't die.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar
The history of the 1960s cannot be written without him.
Some people really can change for
the better.....
steve simels
Then again...........
Not to love Der Fuhrer IS a great disgrace.
Some people will always WANT to love Big Brother.
Or his coke-head little brother. Which ever comes first.
Richard and Gene - two voices for truth, really.
"Damn, this water's cold!!!"
"Yeah, and it's deep too!!!"
"Don't be stupid, be a smarty. Come and join the Nazi party." - Supreme Commander Thor
Awww, you spoiled the secret message suprise
Some people will always WANT to love Big Brother.
Bullies always have groupies and sycophants who like to feel tough, and like they're on the winning team.
openminded and fair.
LOL. Openminded and fair=accepting Republican bullshit.
Smitty W., tea faerie
I prefer to think for myself.
It's harder than just saying "Sieg Hiel, Sieg Heil" but I guess I like doing things the hard way!
OT (On topic):
This bit about Joe reminds me of the cable news channels. Some days they match each other story for story at the exact same time. Fox will shoot out in other directions like Christmas-haters...
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APT wouldn't know reality if it rose up and bit him on the ass.
you shout down anywone who disagrees with you, even those with facts. You can't change reality
Amercian Proud and True
Who said irony was dead?
Irony might not be dead; too bad this asshole's still kickin'.
GWPDA:
For those of us who actually, for a few moments, thought we could vote for a brilliant, honorable, thoroughly decent man for president during scoundrel times, McCarthy will always be what you suggest: the conscience of a polity. I'm saddened that, as scoundrel times recur, there's no such figure out there, but recall that McCarthy himself, when he emerged in 1968, was a bit unexpected, a bolt from the blue.
Bullies always have groupies and sycophants who like to feel tough, and like they're on the winning team.
That's the truth.
The sad fact is that humans are just as barbaric as they were in cave man times.
The history of the 1960s cannot be written without him.
Terry C,
Certainly my personal history couldn't.
The governor had come to my small Wisconsin liberal arts college to speak on the night Pres.Johnson announced he would not run for re-election. We all rushed out of the auditorium just as Gov. Knowles was being introduced.
It was quite a night, matched only by the subsequent Chicago Democratic Convention.
Bullies always have groupies and sycophants who like to feel tough, and like they're on the winning team.
Eli
Trolls, freepers.....
Never mind that they are the type of people that the bullies would kick in the face first.
"Today, Cindy Sheehan and Scottish mothers who have lost their sons in Iraq held a rally outside the Scottish parliament, spoke at a cross-party meeting of Members of the Scottish Parliament, were welcomed to the City of Glasgow by the Lord Provost, and addressed an anti-war rally in Glasgow. "
So they roll out other Gold Star Mothers still in denial to attack Sheehan. Wonder how the euro press is going to cover this?
We know how it is covered here- we note the talking points, you decide.
It puts the entire PR move into perspective...
"Today, Cindy Sheehan and Scottish mothers who have lost their sons in Iraq held a rally outside the Scottish parliament, spoke at a cross-party meeting of Members of the Scottish Parliament, were welcomed to the City of Glasgow by the Lord Provost, and addressed an anti-war rally in Glasgow. "
So they roll out other Gold Star Mothers still in denial to attack Sheehan. Wonder how the euro press is going to cover this?
We know how it is covered here- we note the talking points, you decide.
It puts the entire PR move into perspective...
Bullies always have groupies and sycophants who like to feel tough, and like they're on the winning team.
And Bully Numba One is sittin' in the White House. Someone should have beat his rich white ass with a lead-filled hose when he was younger--
Oh, wait. I think he paid some whore to do that.
Never mind.
It was quite a night, matched only by the subsequent Chicago Democratic Convention.
Diane
1968 was quite a year!
The sad fact is that humans are just as barbaric as they were in cave man times.
I have never been able to believe that people are basically good. I just don't see enough evidence for it. There *are* good people, and lots of 'em, but they seem to be very much in the minority.
k&y- yup, it's at the link i posted. i haven't read all the cannonfire stuff yet, but i'll get to it.
i've decided that tomorrow i'll blog on pryor. he deserves it.
My ode to Clean Gene
while some good and famous people have unfortunately passed, the needless deaths in iraq of another 5 american youth have been announced.
So they roll out other Gold Star Mothers still in denial to attack Sheehan. Wonder how the euro press is going to cover this?
The European press isn't under the thumb of Prince Fuckwit and his Ass Clown Posse, thank goodness.
OT (On topic):
OK I lied. Sooo many Joementum posts...
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"Bullies always have groupies and sycophants who like to feel tough, and like they're on the winning team."
world history in a sentence.
Someone should have beat his rich white ass with a lead-filled hose when he was younger--
Oh, wait. I think he paid some whore to do that.
Supreme Commander Thor
But he STILL couldn't get it up!
"It’s time for Democrats who distrust President Bush to acknowledge that he will be the commander in chief for three more critical years and that in matters of war we undermine presidential credibility at our nation’s peril."
--
It's called treason, libs. The penalty is death.
Meanwhile the clusterfuck in Iraq
http://dailywarnews.blogspot.com/
President Bush RULES this country and you have nothing to say
When did the president become a "king" who rules us?
Fucking never, sez I.
Um, I effed up the link..
http://www.zapaction.blogspot.com/
Bill O'Really wants to visit horror upon my Mom!
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Ever notice that the people the left revere are sincerely on the side of peace and unity. While the right lionizes those who advocate killing, lying, cheating, and disunity. As the big dawg says, when you go by facts the left is right.
Some people will always WANT to love Big Brother.
"Thank you, sir. May I have another?"
It's called treason, libs. The penalty is death.
I can't wait to see Rove and Libby twistin' at the end of a rope, either.
.
But he STILL couldn't get it up!
That coke is a bitch when it comes to getting it up.
Too bad he didn't do something really stupid like inject it directly into his penis--and then watch it rot off a couple of days later.
Would have at least spared us Der Twins.
While the right lionizes those who advocate killing, lying, cheating, and disunity.
ql in ny
The right's masturbatory fantasies are all about pain, destruction, subjugation of other people and killing.
I have never been able to believe that people are basically good. I just don't see enough evidence for it. There *are* good people, and lots of 'em, but they seem to be very much in the minority.
Civilization is just a microthin veneer.
Exhibit A? all the trolls who would love to put us in concentration camps or have us executed for disagreeing with them.
Joementum.
Smell it!
Bill O'Really wants to visit horror upon my Mom!
.
Jeffraham Prestonian
I'm betting your mom could STILL kick O'Wanker's ass!
Civilization is just a microthin veneer.
Exhibit A? all the trolls who would love to put us in concentration camps or have us executed for disagreeing with them.
It explains the Republicans' popularity - they tell everyone that it's *okay* to give in to their animal nature, rather than having to make all this effort to actually care about the wellbeing of Other People.
Joementum.
Smell it!
Jennifer
It smells like moldy ass!
Lowell Wicker -- Now is the time to come to the aid of your country.
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joementUm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
s//ell it!!!!!~~ lolollololol~~~
How Jennifer's comment looks in "hacker".
God...I freakin' hate Democrats!!
Oh, man! I loved Robert Sheckley's short stories. Wonderfully inventive and fun writer. RIP.
Joementum.
Smell it!
Is that what I'm smellin'?
I thought it was bullshit!
all the trolls who would love to put us in concentration camps or have us executed for disagreeing with them.
Like I've said before, they can take their best shot.
They'll get lead in their asses for their trouble!
Pathbreaking Comedian Richard Pryor Dies
- By JEREMIAH MARQUEZ, Associated Press Writer
Saturday, December 10, 2005
Click to View
(12-10) 14:04 PST Los Angeles (AP) --
Richard Pryor, the caustic yet perceptive actor-comedian who lived dangerously close to the edge both on stage and off, died Saturday. He was 65.
Pryor died shortly before 8 a.m. of a heart attack after being taken to a hospital from his home in the San Fernando Valley, said his business manager, Karen Finch. He had been ill for years with multiple sclerosis, a degenerative disease of the nervous system.
"He did not suffer, he went quickly and at the end there was a smile on his face," his wife, Jennifer Pryor, said. "I'm honored now that I have an opportunity to protect and continue his legacy because he's a very, very, very amazing man and he opened doors to so many people."
"It’s time for Democrats who distrust President Bush to acknowledge that he will be the commander in chief for three more critical years and that in matters of war we undermine presidential credibility at our nation’s peril."
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It's called treason, libs. The penalty is death.
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that's a little harsh, really. i don't think lieberman should be put to death.
God...I freakin' hate Democrats!!
Joe Lieberman - (D) CT
The feeling is soooooooooo mutual, fuckface!
that's a little harsh, really. i don't think lieberman should be put to death.
Olaf glad and big (elitist for
Just beaten with a sock full of horse manure!
Someone want to e-mail that quote to the Preznit? I mean, yaknow, I think that the Preznit and his Gestapo might wanna know what kind of backstabbing sleazebucket they're thinking of signing on to repair their tattered credibility.....
Cheers,
we undermine presidential credibility at our nation’s peril."
WHAT credibility?
Bush killed THAT!
Liberals are against freedom
And yet it was liberals who pretty much invented freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of religion and and so on.
yipee! k&y have comments at their blog!
go join the fun.
It's called treason, libs. The penalty is death.
Gee, that's tough talk, pencil-dick.
Amercian Proud and True = APT.
Can't that also stand for something like Advanced Pregnancy Test?
And if we piss on him he'll turn pink?
Liberals are against freedom
Oh, THAT is SO retarded!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's called treason, libs. The penalty is death.
Hey, bring it on.
You trolls TALK real big!
Amercian
What the fuck is an "Amercian"????
"Civilization is just a microthin veneer"
i totally agree. here is exhibit b:
my wife is gone for the weekend and i quickly reverted back to gross behavior.
against all reason, i go ahead and convince myself that it is ok to tear off the slightly moldy parts of the swiss cheese and eat the rest.
i am starting to feel the results of my barbaric dumbassedness.
don't think lieberman should be put to death.
Olaf glad and big (elitist for
Just beaten with a sock full of horse manure!
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat
i should have it ready in a few minutes.
What the fuck is an "Amercian"????
Some half-assed git, the same as their "king" in DC.
don't think lieberman should be put to death.
Olaf glad and big (elitist for
Just beaten with a sock full of horse manure!
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat
i should have it ready in a few minutes.
smarty jones
Nice BIG turds, okay?
You can stick a rock or two in there.
"while some good and famous people have unfortunately passed, the needless deaths in iraq of another 5 american youth have been announced."
--smarty jones
Let's just chalk it up to Bush's judgement. These good people meant more to their families than McCarthy and Pryor. And well they should. Stupid fucking war for no good reason.
Supreme Commander Thor
I LIKE the way you THINK!
8-)
The trolls have completely abandoned any sort of debate over facts or ideas. It's all, "You're a bunch of lazy, godless traitors" and "We're coming for you" and all that shit. What a bunch of pathetic losers.
Guess what, trolls? Bush fucked up. He sucks. He botched the war. Thanks for playing.
well, it's time for chow. have a great afternoon everyone. RIP to the heroes we lost today.
One of the famous lines arising out of the so-called Fabulous Fifties was that 'politics stops at the water's edge' so that we could have a bipartisan foreign policy. Never understood myself how a democracy could thrive without an opposition--a thought that, believe it or not, recurs from time to time--but those who mistakenly perceived the communist threat as monolithic wanted us to project an 'equally' monolithic strength in response, thus mirroring the behavior of our enemy. Times sure have changed...
Can someone explain to me why a single dickhead who calls himself a Democrat (a Zell Miller in waiting, maybe?) draws so much attention when it's obvious he represents no significant portion of the party????
my wife is gone for the weekend and i quickly reverted back to gross behavior.
against all reason, i go ahead and convince myself that it is ok to tear off the slightly moldy parts of the swiss cheese and eat the rest.
i am starting to feel the results of my barbaric dumbassedness.
smarty jones
Even good cheese is bad for horses.
Actually occurs to me that Lieberman may be trying to channel Scoop Jackson, a diehard cold warrior, friend of Israel and social liberal...
Here's a game everyone can play!
"while some good and famous people have unfortunately passed, the needless deaths in iraq of another 5 american youth have been announced."
--smarty jones
And these soldiers' bodies are being sent home as "freight," crammed in with suitcases and cargo.
Truly a hero's return.
"while some good and famous people have unfortunately passed, the needless deaths in iraq of another 5 american youth have been announced."
--smarty jones
And these soldiers' bodies are being sent home as "freight," crammed in with suitcases and cargo.
Truly a hero's return.
Here's a game everyone can play!
watertiger
i love you.
Actually occurs to me that Lieberman may be trying to channel Scoop Jackson, a diehard cold warrior, friend of Israel and social liberal...
I knew Scoop Jackson, etc.
what the fuck does the "I" in "Joseph I. Lieberman" stand for, anyway?
RIP
Richard Pryor
Sadly missed.
Truly a hero's return.
rorschach
you make me cry.
while some good and famous people have unfortunately passed, the needless deaths in iraq of another 5 american youth have been announced.
smarty jones
more evidence that fox news lies. 'cause they said this morning that american deaths were down in iraq. and i know that's not true. but they said it just like it was, then yadda, yadda,... then sumth'n about the stock market going up, up, up...
Bye for now.
Remember, have your ass home by 11...
what the fuck does the "I" in "Joseph I. Lieberman" stand for, anyway?
Probably... I.
anyone read the diary on Wilk's money trails over @ kos?
RCN=RICO
i love you.
smarty jones
*whinny!*
Itchy?
Oh, I know, Ignoramus!
Wait.... Incontinent?
Probably... I.
"Irrelevant."
Perhaps Ignoble?
Joseph Eye Liberman.
Kind of like Homer Jay Simpson.
To hell with Joementum.
OT:
LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Richard Pryor, the caustic yet perceptive actor-comedian who lived dangerously close to the edge both on stage and off, has died, his ex-wife said Saturday. He was 65.
Pryor died of a heart attack at his home in the San Fernando Valley sometime late Friday or early Saturday, Flyn Pryor said. He had been ill for years with multiple sclerosis, a degenerative disease of the nervous system.
-CNN, 12/10/2005.
Impotent, Idiotic, Imbecilic, Irritating, Insipid...
"anyone read the diary on Wilk's money trails over @ kos?
RCN=RICO
1watt news troll"
Yes. I am wondering just how much of that might pan out. Seems like he put a lot of time n their for something that would be idle speculation.
For some reason, I thought Richard Pryor was already dead.
Not sure why.
RIP.
Remember: "When you're on fire! And running down the street! People get out of your way!"
The real answer is Isadore.
Joseph Eye Liberman.
you've been watching too much Adult Swim, haven't you?
The real answer is Isadore.
Joseph "Not A Window" Lieberman...
The "I" stand for "fucking self-serving asswipe."
The "Q" is silent.
On the contrary: I don't watch NEARLY enough Adult Swim. I haven't watched Adult Swim regularly since Home Movies was on.
you make me cry.
smarty jones
Sorry, smarty.
I'm having a pissed-off day and misery loves company, I suppose...
And here's what's going on with the survivors of Bush's fucking war:
Army researchers saw alcohol misuse rise from 13 percent among soldiers to 21 percent one year after returning from Iraq and Afghanistan, underscoring the continuing stress of deployment for some troops.
In post-deployment reassessment data completed in July, researchers also saw soldiers with anger and aggression issues increase from 11 percent to 22 percent after deployment. Those planning to divorce their spouse rose from 9 percent to 15 percent after time spent in the combat zone.
And that’s just the start of the problems, according to military family support groups.
“At the end of the day, wounded servicemembers have wounded families,” said Joyce Wessel Raezer, government relations director for the National Military Family Association.
Inconsequential, Incoherent, Inconsistent
Joseph IOKIYAR Lieberman?
Well, we're off in a few moments to meet WT, NTodd, res, HoneyBearKelly, other atriots that I can't remember and am too lazy to look up, and possibly a surprise visitor who lurks here all the time, but is afraid to come out.
mer-If you are still here, even after 289 comments, damn you!
I just relaunched the new bloggie, with a subtle re-design. See if you can find Waldo.
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in the last 24 hours three great men have died, Sen Eugene McCarthy (although I was always a RFK gal, McCarthy was the man who was able to bring the issue of the Vietnam war to the public and find support for ending hte war), Pryor, oh Gods, I never laughed so hard and so loud as when I saw Pryor on film and the one time I got to see him live, and the delightful Robert Scheckley, one of the best SF writers/editors we had in the field.
peace and thanks to them, comfort to those who loved them.
Inane, ingratiating, ill-conceived...
QL, say hi to the gang for us.
BTW, I'll adopt you if you pay me in quilts!
God..I freakin' hate Christians. I hate them so much that I am willing to make a up a ridiculously phony story about getting bitch slapped around by a couple of Bible thumpers and making myself look like a complete asshole while completely throwing my career and credibility out the window.
Freakin' Christians...it's all their fault!!
Watertiger, if I am late to the 'thing' tonight, will I be in trouble?
Scoop Jackson, unlike Lieberman, was actually thought to be someone worth taking seriously...
A review of Joseph Isadore Lieberman's own bio reveals that he never served in the military.
NMRed-The NYTtimes also today had an obit for Roger Shattuck, a great writer.
Guys like Lieberman have gotten into some weird kool-aid. They've been zombified.
Watertiger, if I am late to the 'thing' tonight, will I be in trouble?
You can forget about fruit cup.
Because I don't think that in the ten months of my blog's existence, I've ever made a merkin reference.
Insincere, insecure, incoherent
Even more:
Lieberman op-ed, Washington Post, 7/7/2003:
The opportunity to build a more stable and democratic Iraq, made possible by our stunning military victory, is now in jeopardy. We're seeing surprisingly fierce resistance to coalition forces and to our efforts to remake the country. But another kind of resistance is proving nearly as dangerous to our long-term security: the Bush administration’s stubborn refusal to change course and build a safer postwar Iraq in partnership with the world.
…
This is a time for firm resolve and clear thinking, not overheated dialogue. What our troops need from their leaders are real tools to fight their real enemies — not taunts inviting more attacks. The president’s “bring ‘em on” challenge, beyond being unpresidential, was unproductive. He shouldn’t focus on getting a rise out of the insurgents but on getting the insurgents out of Iraq.
ql in ny, take suspenders just in case someone's pants fall down.
Have fun!!!
TKK,
what time are you expecting to get there? The place starts getting crowded at 8:00-8:30...
I saw a meerkat reference on your blog recently, you liar!
7:15 .. 7:30 ?
BTW, I'll adopt you if you pay me in quilts!
Smitty W., tea faerie
Deal.
ten years ago, if someone had said to me that they fucking hate xtians, I would have thought they were in serious trouble and needed help asap. Now, heh. The word is not strong enough.
Here's a game everyone can play!
watertiger
{{{{{{{{SCREAM!}}}}}}}}
Only holy when it suits him.
This is not hypocrisy. This is a man coming to his senses...
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rorschach,
the other story that really pisses me off today is the revelation that (in light of the dissenting and unanimous recommdations of career professionals on the Texas case) Justice Dept. staff are no longer allowed to make opinions in the civil rights redistricting cases.
political hacks will be supreme.
its a god damn shame what these mother fuckers have done.
BTW, I'll adopt you if you pay me in quilts!
Do you need a pastry chef in London?
From Harold Pinter's Nobel Speech on Receiving the Prize in Literature:
"I know that President Bush has many extremely competent speech writers but I would like to volunteer for the job myself. I propose the following short address which he can make on television to the nation. I see him grave, hair carefully combed, serious, winning, sincere, often beguiling, sometimes employing a wry smile, curiously attractive, a man's man.
'God is good. God is great. God is good. My God is good. Bin Laden's God is bad. His is a bad God. Saddam's God was bad, except he didn't have one. He was a barbarian. We are not barbarians. We don't chop people's heads off. We believe in freedom. So does God. I am not a barbarian. I am the democratically elected leader of a freedom-loving democracy. We are a compassionate society. We give compassionate electrocution and compassionate lethal injection. We are a great nation. I am not a dictator. He is. I am not a barbarian. He is. And he is. They all are. I possess moral authority. You see this fist? This is my moral authority. And don't you forget it.'"
Damn Jews.
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By the way, had anyone clued Joe in on the fact that Bush thinks Joe and his people need to die in order for Jesus to come back?
Joe? Any comment?
Only holy when it suits him.
Maybe it's a misspelling of whore-ly?
TKK,
Do you mind if we order before you get there? That should be okay, seriously.
Tena,
Sorry, love. I couldn't resist.
One reason Eugene McCarthy refused to support Humphrey in 1968 is that Humphrey refused to denounce the war. In fact he sounded a lot like Liebfraumilch.
The trolls have completely abandoned any sort of debate over facts or ideas. It's all, "You're a bunch of lazy, godless traitors" and "We're coming for you" and all that shit. What a bunch of pathetic losers.
JK, you just don't understand...
WE ARE AT WAR!!!
OK!
the other story that really pisses me off today is the revelation that (in light of the dissenting and unanimous recommdations of career professionals on the Texas case) Justice Dept. staff are no longer allowed to make opinions in the civil rights redistricting cases.
political hacks will be supreme.
Ah fuck.
Hadn't heard that yet.
Unsurprising. And infuriating. But the fury staves off the despair, at least.
thirdparty,
it looks like we can safely name Isadore wanker of the week!
TKK,
Now get yer ass in gear and get on the train!
it looks like we can safely name Isadore wanker of the week!
Could we set up an Isadore dunkin' booth?
Joe Incorporated LIEbermen
There will be a backlash against the religious right at some point. It is inevitable. There are plenty of decent Christian folks who are not gonna want to be lumped in with these Rapture wackos.
Joe Insufferable Lieberman.
OK I'm going to catch the train... RIGHT NOW!
Incouth, Inreasonalbe, Inamerican
Could we set up an Isadore dunkin' booth?
Eli
maybe we can give isadore a long scarf and a car ride?
There will be a backlash against the religious right at some point. It is inevitable. There are plenty of decent Christian folks who are not gonna want to be lumped in with these Rapture wackos.
There better be, or the US is *so* over. Hellooo, Christian Caliphate!
Who knew there was such a place as Hawaiian Gardens, CA? Not I!
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...as for Scoop Jackson, Condi Rice, Wolforat, Rummy, all have ties to his influence.
There's a reason they've stricken down some of his archives, our entire war in iraq was already staged and planned as one of his polict paper/simulations.
There better be, or the US is *so* over. Hellooo, Christian Caliphate!
Eli
To coin a phrase, "Welcome to Gilead."
To coin a phrase, "Welcome to Gilead."
The sad thing is, Atwood thought it would take some kind of major cataclysm to bring that kind of change about.
Guess not.
Could we set up an Isadore dunkin' booth? - Eli
Ole!
Eugene McCarthy and Richard Pryor on the same day?
God needs a hobby.
"There will be a backlash against the religious right at some point"
I tend to think it has already happened, the effects haven't rippled upwards to the big boys yet.
The louder the fundies scream, the quicker they hasten their demise. Eventually they will be a joke, associated with a crappy time in American history.
What would it take to make Big & Rich and Donovan McNabb's Mom go away?
Speaking of Scoop Jackson ....
So what is the current state-of-the-art in conspiracy theories regarding his death aboard KAL 007, shot down when it "wandered" into Soviet air space? Or is it even worth thinking about anymore?
The sad thing is, Atwood thought it would take some kind of major cataclysm to bring that kind of change about.
Guess not.
Eli
Is it time to change it from Bush = "fiery wreck" to Bush = "major cataclysm"?
So what is the current state-of-the-art in conspiracy theories regarding his death aboard KAL 007, shot down when it "wandered" into Soviet air space? Or is it even worth thinking about anymore?
Whoa, he was on that?
Always thought that if your flight number is 007, you should stay as far the fuck away from Soviet/Chinese/NK airspace as you possibly can...
Could we set up an Isadore dunkin' booth?
Eli
maybe we can give isadore a long scarf and a car ride?
smarty jones
no responses to this dark humor? free horse ride for the first person who knows what the hell i'm talking about!
People...I'm serious. Funcan Hack's blog really does suck. It sucks big ones.
Read my article in tomorrow's NYT mag.
no responses to this dark humor? free horse ride for the first person who knows what the hell i'm talking about!
Some effete intellectuals you lot are...
Isadora Duncan! Giddy-yap!
Scarf, meet axle!
Wheee!
smarty - The feral burros give me all the rides I ask for. But nobody rides for free and Duncan's death by strangulation was a horrible end.
scoop jackson was not on KAL007.
as I recall, he died peacefully at home in Everett.
political*
Anyways Scoop's wargames scenarios and plannings were what we used for Iraq.
Since it was assumed the Moslems would welcome us with flowers to oppose the atheistic Soviet, there was never an 'occupation' stage for the interior, outside of air bases and camps to establish a secure pipeline trail to Lebanon along the Syrian border and control of the southern oil zones.
Sunni and Shi'ia were to be used as a buffer zone against Iran or the Russians to the north, either easily inflamed at the drop of a match and both sunject to infiltration with sympathetic help, see also Chalabi...
The best evidence of this is the fact that my nephew's guard unit worked with the Russian navy to help secure infrastructure in Iraq. The Yukos concessions were up at said time...
In fact they probably had plans to cede many of the northern oil to Russia to facilitate continued ongoing war unless the Turkish perimeter was threatened in their original conventional war plans.
Ongoing war is the plan, after all.
The deterrence of nuclear retaliation meant the other side would only deal with conventional terms, a strength of its military in the East.
Atwood thought it would take some kind of major cataclysm to bring that kind of change about.
Guess not.
September the Eleventh™ Changed Everything®.
So what is the current state-of-the-art in conspiracy theories regarding his death aboard KAL 007, shot down when it "wandered" into Soviet air space? Or is it even worth thinking about anymore?
Whoa, he was on that?
Jackson died on the same day as the KAL 007 shootdown, but he died in Everett, WA. It was Congressman Larry McDonal (who was one of heads of the John Birch Society) who was killed on that flight.
smarty - The feral burros give me all the rides I ask for.
dude, that's like choosing a yugo when you could have a porsche!
smarty jones: maybe we can give isadore a long scarf and a car ride?
The only thang this conjures up in my mind is the opening of this really bad movie, which, until the scarf wraps up in the rear axle of the ex's convertible, was titled Eight Girlfriends. Then, they cross through the "eight"...
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67% off topic (one participant was discussed upthread):
There was once a meeting in an Oxford pub called the Eastgate. Two founders of the British Interplanetary Society, one of them being Arthur C. Clarke, met with two opponents of human space travel to debate the topic.
C. S. Lewis--who had spoken ill in Perelandra of "little rocket societies" that in his view merely wanted to spread the crimes of humanity to other planets--was the principal of this side. He brought as his second one J. R. R. Tolkien.
At the "rather unsteady" conclusion of the evening's discussion, which is tragically unrecorded but neither side persuaded the other to its cause, Lewis said "I'm sure you're very wicked people, but how dull it would be if everyone was good."
(Incident recorded by Clarke in the essay "Memoirs of an Armchair Astronaut (Retired)" collected in Voices from the Sky, 1965)
rorschach,
let me know when my services are requested.
I stand corrected re: Scoop Jackson. But why does my brain connect the two events: KAL 007 and Scoop Jackson? Was somebody else famous on that plane?
Thor, thanks for that. I confused the two.
But I'm still curious about the conspiracy theorists' take on that particular event.
and just what was wrong with my answer? tap..tap...tap.
Nobody found Waldo...?
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rorschach,
let me know when my services are requested.
smarty jones
Yay!
Can I whistle like Gandalf does, and you'll just appear?
(And yes, I am watching that again right now...)
smitty,
thor's got it
Scarf, meet axle!
Wheee!
rorschach
smarty - The feral burros give me all the rides I ask for. But nobody rides for free and Duncan's death by strangulation was a horrible end.
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i like the way GWPDA revealed it better, i think. tho rorschach certainly captured the dark humor aspect.
jp,
no waldo, but damn, Curly's cute!
(I still get queasy at that porcupine/dog shot)
and just what was wrong with my answer? tap..tap...tap.
Nûr al-Cubicle
the judges deliberated, and they felt that you needed to reference the means of her death. do you request arbitration?
KAL 007 and Scoop Jackson? Was somebody else famous on that
plane?
Smitty W., tea faerie | Email | Homepage | 12.10.05 - 5:57 pm | #
Some crazy right-wing congressman.
A real frother.
Oh I go away for a bit and come back and find out both Richard Pryor and Gene McCarthy have died. Oh, how sad.
But I'm actually happy for Pryor. He was miserable. He was totally incapacitated by MS.
Winger was also great in the movie where Steve martin was a traveling evangelist (& Liam Neesom was the small town American sheriff
That was a good movie, Prior Aelred.
Oh, come on...didn't we all see the movie with Vanessa Redgrave?
Well, I prefer not to be jostled anyway. I'll take the 7-day Carribean cruise instead.
actually, i think there is some doubt as to whether Isadora died from strangulation or from the impact of hitting the pavement.
either way, it was a horrible - and goddamn freakish - way to go.
and just what was wrong with my answer? tap..tap...tap.
Nûr al-Cubicle
the judges deliberated, and they felt that you needed to reference the means of her death. do you request arbitration?
smarty jones
We don't need to keep spinning our wheels on this issue.
Can't we just torque it out?
no responses to this dark humor? free horse ride for the first person who knows what the hell i'm talking about!
smarty jones | 12.10.05 - 5:52 pm | #
This goofy MF'er thinks he's being clever. That's my mother (Jane Mansfirld) he's referring to, the insensitive fuckwit.
Isadora Duncan was pals with Preston Sturges's mom, so he spent much of his childhood traipsing around Europe with the dancing lady.
watertiger: no waldo, but damn, Curly's cute!
Well, thank ye. He knows it, too.
(I still get queasy at that porcupine/dog shot)
I prefer to think it's an unusual holiday snack tray, or a cheese ball, with a bunch of toothpicks pre-inserted.
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That would be Jayne Mansfield?
Just checkin'. Life ain't all quantum electrodynamics...
So, Holy Joe is obviously going to be on one of the gasbag shows tomorrow. But which one? And if it's the Fat Timmeh hour, shouldn't he have those quotes on hand?
And if it's the Fat Timmeh hour, shouldn't he have those quotes on hand?
*snort*
Timmeh never holds Republicans accountable.
Ho ho ho.
WARSAW, Poland (AP) - Poland's prime minister said Saturday he has ordered an investigation into whether the CIA ran secret prisons for terror suspects in the country - an allegation the government repeatedly has denied.
Kazimierz Marcinkiewicz said a ``detailed'' probe would be conducted to ``check if there is any proof that such an event took place in our country. It is necessary to finally close the issue because it could be dangerous to Poland.''
...
Washington continued its policy of not confirming the existence of any prisons, and declined to offer an opinion about Marcinkiewicz's announcement.
``I'm not going to get into the right of a sovereign country to conduct an investigation on its own territory,'' said Frederick Jones, spokesman for the White House's National Security Council. ``That's their right.''
Poland's outgoing President Aleksander Kwasniewski reiterated this week that ``there are no such prisons or such prisoners on Polish territory.'' On Nov. 28, he said there ``never have been'' such jails in Poland.
But the Polish newspaper Gazeta Wyborcza reported Saturday that Gulfstream airplanes belonging to either the CIA or FBI landed at least five times at the Szczytno-Szymany airport in northeastern Poland since December 2002.
What would it take to make Big & Rich and Donovan McNabb's Mom go away?
Eli
Toby, Cog, Fred, dith, Gordon et al could stop buying so much Chunky Soup.
Toby, Cog, Fred, dith, Gordon et al could stop buying so much Chunky Soup.
They'd sooner die!
Hmm...
*rubs chin thoughtfully*
Re Jayne:
http://www.jaynemansfield.com/photo.html
You want it, you got it. Stopped at the gateway page myself, of course...
*rubs chin thoughtfully*
Eli
*Holds upright pinky finger to corner of closed mouth* nods
Fuck Joe the Dino - ho
I was wrong...completely wrong, about your tax cuts, Mr. President.
Because he fought against the "wisdom" of me and my ilk, we now have the highest tax receipts ever recorded in any country in the history of the world...$2.15 trillion.
And, to boot, the deficit has been reduced by almost $200 billion.
And, unbelievably, the economy is growing at about 4.5 %..AND, unemployment has slipped to under 5%
I am sooooo sorry, sir. I really am a fucking idiot.
Washington continued its policy of not confirming the existence of any prisons, and declined to offer an opinion about Marcinkiewicz's announcement.
so that means poland is one of the secret sites, and karl rove IS guilty.
Kazimierz Marcinkiewicz said a ``detailed'' probe would be conducted to ``check if there is any proof that such an event took place in our country. It is necessary to finally close the issue because it could be dangerous to Poland.''
IOW, we're more worried about our voting rights in the EU than the "power" of the U.S.
Good job, W.
Because he fought against the "wisdom" of me and my ilk, we now have the highest tax receipts ever recorded in any country in the history of the world...$2.15 trillion.
I read it in a pseudonymous comment!
It must be true!
so that means poland is one of the secret sites, and karl rove IS guilty.
charley
Except Poland has plausible deniability.
Okay, wildly OT, and apparently not a new story, but it's new to me and I think it is very very cool:
Declarations of emergency in US border states like Arizona and New Mexico have kicked the immigration debate into high gear.
Artist Judi Werthein has walked smack into the middle of this controversy.
She is hoping to leave her footprint with a special "crossing trainer" she has designed to help illegal immigrants negotiate the sometimes deadly terrain they encounter when crossing the border from Mexico to the US.
Migrants waiting for dark to hop the border fence from Tijuana into San Diego start calling out their shoe sizes when they see the boxes in Werthein's arms.
...
They call the act of crossing the "brinco" - literally "jump" in Spanish. And that is the inspiration for Werthein's crossing shoes, called Brincos.
The trainers are adorned with unusual items.
"The shoe includes a compass, a flashlight because people cross at night, and inside is included also some Tylenol painkillers because many people get injured during crossing," Werthein says.
...
A map - printed on the shoe's removable insole - shows the most popular illegal routes from Tijuana into San Diego.
Completely OT, but I just read Jon Krakauer's Into Thin Air, an account of the '96 Everest expedition where Scott Fischer, Rob Hall, and a number of their clients died. If you're familiar at all with the story, you remember that one of the survivors who spent a night exposed on Everest was severly frostbitten and lost a hand, fingers on the other hand, nose, and toes to frostbite. He was Beck Weathers, a Dallas physician.
Here's something I didn't know: Krakauer said that Weathers was a bully conservative, hectoring others with his political opinions, which were essentially just repetitions of Rush Limbaugh's daily screeds.
It turns out that the reason Beck Weathers spent a night in the open was that when he halted his ascent of the mountain, guide Scott Fischer told him to stay where he was, that he would guide him back down on his (Fischer's) descent. Weathers had to stop climbing because the higher he climbed, the worse his eyesight became as a result of his previous RK procedure.
So Weathers waited for Fischer to return (and of course Fischer never did), but in the meantime, numerous climbers passed him on the descent and offered to help him back to camp. Weathers declined all their help because as he put it, he had been told by Fischer to wait for his return.
Now, I'll probably go to hell for this, at the very least it reveals that in a some ways I'm really not a very nice person, but I couldn't help but thinking as I read that, "how typical of a Rushbot - can't make a move without being told what to do by the leader."
In any case, it was a really good book, I highly recommend it.
I am sooooo sorry, sir. I really am a fucking idiot.
Paul Krugman | Email | 12.10.05 - 6:14 pm
site/link please, shitwhistle?
site/link please, shitwhistle?
Do I hear crickets?
WARSAW, Poland (AP) - Poland's prime minister said Saturday he has ordered an investigation into whether the CIA ran secret prisons for terror suspects in the country - an allegation the government repeatedly has denied.
pie - ho ho ho is right - if any country should know better, it's fucking Poland.
*tumbleweed blows through*
I am sooooo sorry, sir. I really am a fucking idiot.
Paul Krugman | Email | 12.10.05 - 6:14 pm
I vant to suck you blood
Bobbie Novak
From the other thread:
If Lieberman can slip into the Sec-Def position now, he'll be in the right spot to accrue all the credit for the victory in Iraq! The glory galore from that glorious victory could sweep him all the way to the Presidency.
Odd, isn't it, that the Repugs might let a Dem slip in there and get all the glory.
It would be even odder if Lieberman's ascension to Sec-Def coincided with the administration finally admitting everything in Iraq is for shit, and putting the blame on him.
But they wouldn't do that, would they? It wouldn't be honorable.
I don't see why other Dems don't trust the Republicans to the extent that Joe does.
Mooser | Email | Homepage | 12.10.05 - 4:06 pm | #
Joe Lieberman: This year's winner of the Inaugural Edition of the Patrick Moynihan Memorial Useful Idiot DINO Award!
The award consists of a 10K gold-plated plaque with the words "Kick Me" engraved in seventy-two-point Arial Bold.
Where did everyone go?
Normally I'm 45 mins. behind on comments.
In any case, it was a really good book, I highly recommend it.
Jennifer
is Jon Krakauer the guy who wrote the alex mccandles(sp) story?
screw the ditto heads, may they all die on a mountainside. for perspective i had many freinds who were reaganites, i will never have a freind who supports bush, ever. in my mind support for bush is a moral character flaw.
Ok.... this is from Investor's Business Daily.
The MSM will not publish it, but goddamn if it ain't true. They know the librule sheeple's won't investigate for themselves:---------------------------------------
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Issues & Insights
Supply-Side Boom
Posted 12/9/2005
Fiscal Policy: A picture is worth a thousand words, and nowhere is that truer than in the debate over supply-side claims that tax cuts lead to higher revenues.
We were struck by a chart that Treasury Secretary John Snow used last week when he presented the administration's case for making the 2003 tax cuts permanent.
For Democrats opposed to the cuts, no argument has been more potent than that tax cuts somehow "cost" the government money — and thus make deficits worse. Snow's chart, shown below, puts the lie to that argument.
In fact, the supply-siders are right: Revenues rise after tax rates are reduced. Federal revenues bottomed at $1.8 trillion just as Bush signed his bill; since then, they've risen 19.4% to $2.15 trillion, an all-time high.
A big reason is that tax avoidance recedes along with rates. When top personal rates are high, the rich find ways to pay less. That's why our tax code is 55,000 pages thick. When rates are lower and flatter, such behavior disappears.
This also explains why the richest Americans' share of all income taxes paid has soared to 34.27% from 19.05% in 1980 even though their average income-tax rate has fallen by roughly a third — from 34.47% to 24.31% in 2003.
More important, however, is the impact tax cuts have on the economy. Since May 2003, when Bush's major plan of tax cuts on both capital and income took effect, the economy has been on a tear. It's virtually impossible to argue the two aren't linked.
In the nine quarters before the tax cuts, GDP grew at an average rate of 1.1%. In the nine quarters since, it's averaged 4.5% — even in the face of punishingly higher interest rates and oil prices.
We also hear how all the tax cuts are going to the "rich." Again, not true. A surge in entrepreneurship, jobs, income and wealth has made all of us richer and more secure.
As Snow noted in his speech Thursday, 57 million Americans now own stocks — or about half of all households. Yet, the median income for shareholders is a very un-Rockefeller-like $65,000.
Many of those investors are retired, and have seen their incomes go up along with dividends. This year, shareholders will deposit or reinvest $201 billion in payouts — up 36% from 2002, the year dividend tax cuts went into effect.
Entrepreneurs are doing well, too. Fed data out Friday showed Americans' net worth is now $51 trillion — about 4.6 times real GDP. What's most impressive is that includes $6.6 trillion of equity in "noncorporate" — or small, entrepreneurial — businesses, up 32% since the start of 2003.
The House passed legislation last week that will trim growth in federal spending by $50 billion but keep mos
I admit it all. I didn't win. Daddy has always bailed me out. I knew about the attacks before 9-11. We lied about the weapons. I told Novak about Valerie Plame. I never reported during my guard duty. I paid for the Swiftboat ads. I did lots of cocaine. I still drink lots. Jeff Gannon is my boyfriend. Pickles *is* a robot. I wear women's underwear.
Shadowlands. There were two versions, actually, but I'm assuming you're thinking of the Hopkins/Winger one.
Eli | Email
waaay earlier in thread, but I have the soundtrack to that. Makes me break down & bawl. Good to use for that purpose when tears have backed so far up that I can't cry when I really need to, like lancing a boil.
Polish fascism only awaits its time
a highly socially stratified, economically backwards, priest-ridden, god-blighted culture which, by most accounts did not too actively resist the Germans (and cooperated enthusiastically in the expropriation and extermination of their indigenous Jews), Poland only opposed Soviet fascism because it was led by the Russians/slavs...
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Math for Fucktards, Version 1.0:
$2.15 trillion - $1.8 trillion = $350 billion.
Or, 25% or less of the tax giveaway.
Fucktard Math is the only math program that can make $350 billon > $1.2 trillion.
a highly socially stratified, economically backwards, priest-ridden, god-blighted culture which, by most accounts did not too actively resist the Germans (and cooperated enthusiastically in the expropriation and extermination of their indigenous Jews), Poland only opposed Soviet fascism because it was led by the Russians/slavs...
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WoodyGuthriesGuitar
Isn't it odd that when it comes to running a secret prison system, Bush goes to those with experience, and when it comes to, say, saving New Orleans...well...
Hey Eli...
Didja check it out for yourself yet?
The MSM knows that the typical liberal is the John Kerry kinda smart..you know, D-student...below average IQ...compelety uninquisitive.
That's why they can feed us bullshit...truth and facts be damned.
Right.
Tax cuts increase revenues.
And perpetual motion is totally
possible.
Where do they find these
assholes?
Where did everyone go?
Normally I'm 45 mins. behind on comments.
Johnjs
dude, you are supposed to be at our stategy meeting on how to defeat christmas.... get your ass over here.
Math for Fucktards, Version 1.0:
$2.15 trillion - $1.8 trillion = $350 billion.
Or, 25% or less of the tax giveaway.
Fucktard Math is the only math program that can make $350 billon > $1.2 trillion.
Jennifer | Email | Homepage | 12.10.05 - 6:31 pm | #
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Even my econ students at Princeton are not that stupid. Where does the $1.2 trillion come into play where we are talking about real tax revenues and not fictional shit from the DNC and their lying little bitches in the MSM?
Right.
Tax cuts increase revenues.
And "trickle down" isn't just a euphemism for "the rich will piss on you."
Didja check it out for yourself yet?
What, the White House spin as served up by a right-wing apologist publication? Not exactly the most rock-solid, unimpeachable source, now is it? They seem to overlook any suggestion that the economy was at rock-bottom at the time of the cuts, and growth and revenue had nowhere to go but up.
I especially liked their explanation of why the rich were paying a larger percentage of taxes, which conveniently overlooked the possibility that they might also be sucking in a larger percentage of revenue and wealth...
Did they mention anything about wages for ordinary workers improving, BTW? I think I missed that part.
Paul,
it is not suprising that after almost 5 years in office, bush actually has been able to produce some net jobs and we now have more jobs than under Clinton.
the same is true of tax revenues.
economies are supposed to grow, and under bush it's taken goddam forever to get even lackluster results.
the DNC and their lying little bitches in the MSM?
Paul Krugman | Email | 12.10.05 - 6:34 pm | #
The media are in bed with the
DNC?
Jeezus, you're too stupid to live.
I guess Eli and Guthrie'sGuitar'sWoodie actually checked the facts and found out the tax cuts do work.
If only that moron Jennifer would do the same.
And "trickle down" isn't just a euphemism for "the rich will piss on you."
There was a "trickle down" effect one night at the Bush household--
And nine months later Little Georgie popped out.
Smarty, that's the story of my life.
You forgot to add me to your email list.
I see a new series of Polish jokes on the horizon.
I guess Eli and Guthrie'sGuitar'sWoodie actually checked the facts and found out the tax cuts do work.
They sure do--if you're already richer than shit.
For the rest of us who have to work it's "Fuck you, Jack, I got mine!"
I hid another Waldo. Sometimes, it's the little things that make a new bloggie feel more like home, y'know.
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I see aruging with a pseudonym with the position that logically ends at: "No taxes=more money than gov't can spend" is going well.
Go play in the street douche bag.
Leiberman belongs to the the Taliban Wing of the Republican Party. In no way does he represent the values of the Democratic Party.
And "trickle down" isn't just a euphemism for "the rich will piss on you."
rorschach | Homepage | 12.10.05 - 6:34 pm | #
In the immortal words of Thomas Sowell..."Nothing cures poverty but wealth."
Lessee ... even accepting, for just a moment, that cutting taxes miraculously does increase tax revenue, we're still tax receipts are still WAYYY below expenditures.
So our only solution, aside from raising taxes, is cutting spending.
But oops! Cutting government spending inhibits economic growth, because government does stuff like hire contractors to build roads!
Like matter and energy, money cannot be created from thin air by simply cutting taxes. It just doesn't work that way.
It's just like increasing the money supply by printing money. That tends to devalue each individual unit of currency, so the total economic value of an economy stays the same.
I see we have a new troll fouling the thread.
In the immortal words of Thomas Sowell..."Nothing cures poverty but wealth."
Paul Krugman
Wealth depends on poverty to exist.
If everyone had the same amount of money, no one would be wealthy.
And no one poor.
Sowell is an idiot.
There's no such thing as a new troll.
All trolls are part of the uber-troll; the uber-troll is many and manifest. It may take different names and shapes, but it is always Troll.
In the immortal words of Thomas Sowell..."Nothing cures poverty but wealth."
Paul Krugman | Email | 12.10.05 - 6:41 pm | #
Oh, there's an expert on
anything but forgetting where
he came from.
Dead man did not speak of bomb
THE man who was shot and killed by US air marshals in Miami on Thursday never spoke of a bomb, a fellow passenger said.
The witness, John McAlhany, said Rigoberto Alpizar seemed to suffer a panic attack and dashed up the plane's aisle.
US authorities say Mr Alpizar, 44, was shot and killed after threatening to detonate a bomb on an American Airlines plane.
"He just wanted to get off the plane," said Mr McAlhany, who was sitting in the middle of the Boeing 757.
In the immortal words of Thomas Sowell...
First of all: Bwah!!!
..."Nothing cures poverty but wealth."
Second of all: Bwahaha!
You a funny muthafucka.
don't you get tired of these puesdo-free market approaches?
Shit, even the First Poppy knew that Reaganomics was bullshit. He raised taxes, finally - because the economy was fucked.
It was so fucked, he couldn't fix it and Clinton was elected on that basis. It's the economy, stupid.
The Repugs do not treat the people's monies with any respect whatsoever. Taxes go to DC, and the Repugs take the money and run. It's plowed back into the military now, and straight back to defense contractors.
School loans - cut and cut and cut. Education, Disaster Relief - nada. Our Forest Service? Don't make me laugh.
Yet Cheney's holdings in Halliburton increased in value in one fiscal year from just under $300,000 to $9 million.
We have had this fool troll here many times.
I can't really place him tho.
posts a lot like tobes.
Thomas Sowell?
A credit to his wallet.
Like matter and energy, money cannot be created from thin air by simply cutting taxes. It just doesn't work that way.
It's just like increasing the money supply by printing money. That tends to devalue each individual unit of currency, so the total economic value of an economy stays the same.
Smitty W., tea faerie | Email | Homepage | 12.10.05 - 6:42 pm | #
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Wow..seriously...wow...can anyone explain the Laffer Curve and/or the money multiplier effect to this idjit?
if any country should know better, it's fucking Poland.
I read that they agreed to base US nukes on their territory.
Aimed at Tehran? No.
Aimed at Moscow? No.
Aimed at Paris and Berlin!
If fact, this same assertion included the fact that that the US purposely pursued special relationship on the periphery of Europe....Italy, Romania, Britain...to counter France and Germany, the two workhorses of the EU.
Re: Paul Krugman troll.
Explain away the loss in real income every year for the last 5 years for hte middle class.
Explain away the massive deficits run up by the repukes.
Explain away the loss of the largest surplus in the history of the country since 2000 that Bill Clinton bequeated the Bush fool.
Explain away the record setting National Debt run up by the Bush fool.
what am I missing here...did Eli and steve simels actually agree w/the troll...???
I certainly don't personally know anyone who is benefiting from this "robust" Bush economy.
We have had this fool troll here many times.
I can't really place him tho.
posts a lot like tobes.
Johnjs | 12.10.05 - 6:47 pm | #
Nah -- the Little Sociopath(TM)
can't resist dumb folksy touches,
like saying y'all.
Although I agree -- this twit's
been here before under a different
name.
Why is today "Cockpunch Joe Day"? Not that I'm complaining. Any day is a good day for that.
Explain away the massive deficits run up by the repukes.
Explain away the loss of the largest surplus in the history of the country since 2000 that Bill Clinton bequeated the Bush fool.
Explain away the record setting National Debt run up by the Bush fool.
I think maybe the Bush strategy was to actively *seek* rock-bottom in every category so that the inevitable rebound would look some kind of prosperous boom.
Liberals lies exposed! Your bias will be your undoing, you cannot see reality! The economy is going great, but you poverty pimps don't like that. WHo will buy your trash whe they can buy the American Dream?
USA. Forever.
Tony Blair thinks Bush is is best friend when really to Bush he is just a tool to further his deranged ambitions.
what a cretin
what am I missing here...did Eli and steve simels actually agree w/the troll...???
Nooo.
yo, shitwhistle...
the way it's spun--the 'good news' about tax cuts--is fundamentally undermined byt the concommitant--but unspoken, unacknowledged--costs of the deficit.
the scheme it typical of your 'fuck-it-the-world's-ending-and-i aint-got-alla-mine-yet' crowd.
the scenario you present ignores--because it postpones, unto the next generations--the real costs of your fucking boom.
fucking boom, asshole...
gotcher fuckin' boom, right here./..
Ah, it's failed chiselmonger Brian Hardig again, under yet another persona.
Sad, sad, sad.
Wow..seriously...wow...can anyone explain the Laffer Curve and/or the money multiplier effect to this idjit?
Paul Krugman | Email | 12.10.05 - 6:47 pm | #
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Please explain the Laugh-er Curve to me. On the back of a napkin, too.
Wow..seriously...wow...can anyone explain the Laffer Curve and/or the money multiplier effect to this idjit?
Oh, please, enlighten me.
I await your wisdom!
I am a blank page, humbly awaiting your guidance!
C'mon dog dick. Explain it away.
There's no such thing as a new troll.
Here comes the new troll
Same as the old troll
Although I agree -- this twit's
been here before under a different
name.
John F. Kerry? Hunter S. Thompson? Maybe The Dean? There's this one troll who likes to steal the names of prominent liberal figures for his sneering diatribes, and this guy sounds the same.
Smarty, that's the story of my life.
You forgot to add me to your email list.
Johnjs
man, you really are off the ranch!
we don't use e-mail... we have a bat signal to alert us to our christmas destruction meetings, only its not a bat signal, it is a moonbat signal.
Wow..seriously...wow...can anyone explain the Laffer Curve and/or the money multiplier effect to this idjit?
Go play with your Dremel, Brian. It's already worn away your micropenis.
The small boy said "But the Emperor has no clothes!"
And one of the Imperial Buttboys went to the small boy and said "It is dangerous to undermine the Emperor's credibility in wartime."
The small boy said "Alright then, the war won't last forever, and when it ends I will say that the Emperor is naked."
The emperor heard this, and said "Um, this could be - that is we really - war is a turrble thing, but - what happens when I'm not the Wartime Emperor and thay say mean things about me?"
But the Emperors Grand Vizier popped in from his undisclosed secret location and said "Don't worry. We're at war with a military tactic. It willlast forever. No one will EVER be allowed to undermine the Emperor."
And the Imperial procession went on, as the Warriors of Blackwater took the small boy off for his waterboarding.
Moral: To speak bad things about the war during times of war is disloyal to the war, and the Emperor will send you to Gitmo along with the bad children who don't finish their vegetables.
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Damn the torpedoes -- full SNPA ahead!
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Eugene Mccarthy was a lazy, vindictive man that wilfully courted the image of a 'frivolus maverick.'
Mccarthy voted for Ronald Reagan in 1980.
Are y'all calling Lieberman "Holy" Joe because he's an observant Jew?
Grow up.
what am I missing here...did Eli and steve simels actually agree w/the troll...???
I certainly don't personally know anyone who is benefiting from this "robust"
Bush economy.
Sarah Deere | 12.10.05 - 6:48 pm | #
Huh?
Have I been name-stolen and I
missed it?
Ah, yes. Hardig. I knew it seemed familiar.
Listen: The wages of the average worker aren't rising.
The deficit will exact costs upon all of us for decades.
This situation is not good, except for the owner class. (And not even for them in the long run.)
Oh, gawd, it's Troll Reunion Night.
'koff, Toby, you're a cunt.
Are y'all calling Lieberman "Holy" Joe because he's an observant Jew?
No.
speak of the devil!
It seems to me the Laffer curve was the principle on which the tax cuts of the early 1980s were based. Let's see, let's see, what happened next ... booming deficits, lagging real income growth, job migration to other countries.
Then what happened:
Sometime in the early 1990s a president committed to eliminating the deficit came along. The deficit was eliminated. What happened next: Record Wall Street stock prices, increasing productivity with corresponding growth in real incomes. It was a good time, the 1990s.
I miss Bill Clinton.
Aimed at Paris and Berlin!
Nur - that is truly disturbing. Without having it verified, I have real trouble imagining the US would really want to nuke Paris. Please let us know if you find out more.
actually the devil is probaly more fun to have a discussion with than a troll.....
Oh joy, the Hirsute Moron(TM)
is here.
Are y'all calling Lieberman "Holy" Joe because he's an observant Jew?
Grow up.
No, my friend. It's because the smarmy, unctuous bastard is so full of himself and shit.
No true religious person would promote the agenda Lieberman does.
Then why does Lieberman get called that if it's not for his piety?
Moonbootica, Blair thinks he is an equal to bush.
He bought the bush bullshit.
Laffer curve; Shows how tax cuts have the obvious and uninteresting effect of increasing the budget deficit.
Which impacts the cost of capital and lowers the level of social spending.
Which thwarts economic recovery.
*dog dick*?
*micropenis*...??
HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.....
Eugene McCarthy, a giant among giants, who spoke truth to power, versus the pathetic excuse for a Democratic senator we have today - Joe Lieberman. I'm embarrassed to say I voted for Lieberman in 2000. He makes me sick to my stomach now. I wish he would just switch parties already.
Blair doesn't realise that Britain is a imperial backwater.
Damn the torpedoes -- full SNPA ahead!
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Jeffraham Prestonian
can ya pick me up some, too? and some cigs?
actually the devil is probaly more fun to have a discussion with than a troll.....
I figure the devil would at least be charismatic and capable of stringing a coherent, persuasive argument together.
Or he could be like the devil as played by Will Ferrell in that SNL sketch, where a guy sells his soul to the devil for a hit song, and it turns out that the devil's songwriting skills are spectacularly bad...
Get it straight boyee ... voters don't give a shit about any other economic indicator but how much money they made last year and how much money they made this year. Oh, and whether that keeps up with their increasing bills.
In other words, fake Paul Krugman: Blow me.
Like you did last summer.
There's this one troll who likes to steal the names of prominent liberal figures for his sneering diatribes, and this guy sounds the same.
I imagine you are correct, Eli.
This one posts meaningless bull shit.
Then why does Lieberman get called that if it's not for his piety?
Toby Petzold
Cluelessness on parade!
"anti-semiteS" or "white glage wavers" make up your mind peopel
Then why does Lieberman get called that if it's not for his piety?
Toby Petzold
Short for "holier than thou."
Now start the fucking of yourself immediately.
Are y'all calling Lieberman "Holy" Joe because he's an observant Jew?
Grow up.
Toby Petzold | Email | Homepage | 12.10.05 - 6:53 pm | #
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You are really dense, Putz-head.
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Just think of how History will judge this Democratic Party: so full of nuttiness like Dean and Mother Sheehan that not even its 2000 Vice Presidential nominee would consent to stand with its leadership on the question of war.
It's damning and you damned well know it.
forget your trolls and enjoy some Extra Heidi and George Blogging
I guess Eli and Guthrie'sGuitar'sWoodie actually checked the facts and found out the tax cuts do work.
Sorry, steve - I meant WGG.
Anyway, glad to know it's not true.
And, btw, Liberman "looses" lots of shit, daily.
BTW:
Over at his piece of shit blog,
the Little Sociopath(TM) asserts
that Clinton shouldn't have bombed
Kosovo because there was no
financial benefit to the US
from doing so, but that the war
in Iraq is justified because
eventually we'll make money on it.
And you wonder why we call
him the Little Sociopath(TM).
smarty jones: can ya pick me up some, too? and some cigs?
Are you sayin' your racin' days are over, smarty?
.
shit even al from is standing up for joe
he must really want to be radioactive to the entire party
Go fuck yourself, Toby.
Because nobody else will do it.
not even its 2000 Vice Presidential nominee would consent to stand with its leadership on the question of war
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And the fact he was a 2000 vp nominee matters regarding his current statements, HOW?
And, btw, Liberman "looses" lots of shit, daily.
Cry havoc, and let loose the logs of war!
America: Canada thinks your pricks
Bush-administration officials privately threatened organizers of the U.N. Climate Change Conference, telling them that any chance there might’ve been for the United States to sign on to the Kyoto global-warming protocol would be scuttled if they allowed Bill Clinton to speak at the gathering today in Montreal, according to a source involved with the negotiations who spoke to New York Magazine on condition of anonymity.
[....]
“It’s just astounding,” the source told New York Magazine. “It came through loud and clear from the Bush people—they wouldn’t sign the deal if Clinton were allowed to speak.” Clinton spokesman Jay Carson confirmed the dustup took place and that the former president had decided not to go out of fear of harming the negotiations, but Carson declined to comment further.
Are you sayin' your racin' days are over, smarty?
.
Jeffraham Prestonian
yeah... got married last year and that was the end of that. although i did get in a few months of the sweet stud life before my vows.
I think you people are lying. No one else comes in for that particular epithet but Lieberman. There's little wondering why, as far as I'm concerned.
a illegal ammoral fucked up war.
Just think of how History will judge this Democratic Party: so full of nuttiness like Dean and Mother Sheehan that not even its 2000 Vice Presidential nominee would consent to stand with its leadership on the question of war.
It's damning and you damned well know it.
Toby Petzold
Um, I think maybe, just maybe, history will focus more on, you know, the party in power and its insane, destructive, antidemocratic actions.
Call me crazy.
I think you people are lying. No one else comes in for that particular epithet but Lieberman. There's little wondering why, as far as I'm concerned.
Toby Petzold | Email | Homepage | 12.10.05 - 7:00 pm | #
Toby, dear:
Fuck off, suck my cock, felch shit out of my ass and spit on a canvas and call it art.
This is the level of debate and respect you deserve.
Then why does Lieberman get called that if it's not for his piety?
It isn't because he's an "observant Jew," Toby. It's because his entire political identity surrounds his "moral convictions." If he were an observant Methodist who used his religion as a platform from which to hector the rest of the Democratic party the way that Lieberman does, he'd still be Holy Joe.
And I don't think piety quite gets it. Sanctimonious piety is more like it.
oooooops Smarty.
Forgot to tell you that an owl likes to hang out of the roof here.
It's not so bad untill it gets restless and starts paceing back and forth.
Sounds like a horse up there
Joe-lier than thou.
Brad and An-Joe-Lina?
Um, I think maybe, just maybe, history will focus more on, you know, the party in power and its insane, destructive, antidemocratic actions.
Yep. The only thing History will damn the Democrats for is the faintness of their resistance.
"War has all the characteristics of socialism most conservatives hate."
-- Joseph Sobran
Just think of how History will judge this Democratic Party: so full of nuttiness like Dean and Mother Sheehan that not even its 2000 Vice Presidential nominee would consent to stand with its leadership on the question of war.
It's damning and you damned well know it.
Toby Petzold
Toby, and this is the last time I'm gonna engage your stoopidity tonight, because it's just so goddamn tiresome:
What history is going to judge is that Lieberman, a lot of his fellow Democrats, and the entire Republican establishment, including your butt-boy Dubya, led us into a very destructive and ultimately demoralizing, counterproductive, and ultimately failed war in Iraq.
History's going to ultimately judge the pro-peace Democrats like Dean as having been right.
Now go fuck yourself.
Because, again, nobody else will do it.
Explain away the loss in real income every year for the last 5 years for hte middle class.
Thank you.
Boy, those tax cuts sure did benefit the middle class. That 1200 dollars sure covered the increase in food, energy, state and local taxes, etc.
Asshole.
history will judge the republicans by the numbers they have in prison for various crimes
But, Simels, that's standard-issue horseshit with you people: the American military may only morally intervene in situations where the objective is humanitarian. In all other cases, they are being used as mercenaries to enrich the membership of the Trilateral Commission and the Illuminati.
Oh, those who didn't get enough tax cuts should just WORK HARDER or something, right?
Joe-ly crap
Then why does Lieberman get called that if it's not for his piety?
Toby Petzold 6:55 pm
the badge of sheer douchebaggery is the patent inability to appreciate any shades of irony at all...
as the ass-trying-to-shit-a-face once again reminds us...
'holy' joe is so referred because of the contradiction between his professed observances and the public consequences of his bought-and-paid-for 'loyalties.'
that is, if this is too esoteric fer ya, he's referred to as 'holy joe' to mock his pretensions so baldly belied by his behavior...
ya got it now, face-ass?
The owl flies overhead.
so the amerficAN military is working for the oild companies!
These trolls are all copying each other.
Invent your own style losers.
In fact, they are copying the fucking parody trolls.
Pathetic.
Sobran? That old Jew-hater? Nice touch, Moon.
Liberals lies exposed! Your bias will be your undoing, you cannot see reality! The economy is going great, but you poverty pimps don't like that. WHo will buy your trash whe they can buy the American Dream?
Oh, really? Suck on this, beeatch.
And Toby's up to his usual tactics of changing the subject frequently when he realizes the stupid statements he's already made will be easily proven wrong.
I'm out of here for awhile guys. I expect Toby to either be gone or completely beaten to a pulp, metaphorically, when I return.
But, Simels, that's standard-issue horseshit with you people: the American military may only morally intervene in situations where the objective is humanitarian.
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Yes.
What is your point?
Many, many things can be "let loose".
I'm too tired to think of them, really.
Lots and lots of "loosers" and "looserees", too, I suppose.
Boggles the mind (or what remains of it).
Btw, Gnashvegans: The Janet March case is gonna be on CBS's 48 Hours Mystery tonight, for those interested...
Off for the beer...
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an owl is never lonely
It's damning and you damned well know it.
Tobes,
Lets talk about nutiness and putrid criminality:
- FEMA response to Katrina. "Yer doin' a hackuva job, Brownie!"
- Delay indicted on money laundering charges.
- Scooter Libby indicted
- New grand jury in the Plame investigation
You want me to continue?
How about that good ol' country ass whippin' I promised all you goobers?
Woody, if you're going to be clever, could you at least succeed at it?
Now, what is your explanation again?
Just think of how History will judge this Democratic Party:
The Democrats will not be the focus when History delivers its verdict on the debacle of the past five years.
George W. Bush will be known as the
Worst President Ever.
And this will be known as a dark time for America.
We will survive it, however. Whether we've learned anything remains to be seen.
We will survive it, however. Whether we've learned anything remains to be seen.
We didn't learn anything in 1974. Nothing that stuck, anyway.
Shorter Toby:
Jesus is an asshole bigot because he's attacking those Pharisees, who are so overtly religious!
Billy, that stuff is irrelevant.
And still talking about Katrina? Talk about played out!
How the hell did that shriveled up little garden gnome with the monotone from hell get such a huge damned Ego? Joe always positively glows with self-regard, and I can't for the life of me figure out where that came from.
We didn't learn anything in 1974. Nothing that stuck, anyway.
Well, Eli, I don't know if it's so much a learning experience for some as a way to make money and experience the rush that power brings.
You'll know we've succeeded in Iraq when their porn industry takes off.
Everybody wants democracy, sexy, and whisky.
"History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce." -Karl Marx
We got a call today from a supposedly registered charitable organization that was raising funds for "Fireman Training". Apparantly the local government here (one of the wealthiest towns in the state) does not have the funds for proper training of its fireman. So now it is up to individuals to contribute to this worthy community cause. Thanks Reagan for helping to destroy our society.
How the hell did that shriveled up little garden gnome with the monotone from hell get such a huge damned Ego?
He does look like a gnome; a garden gnome.
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Toby, just shut up. You're an idiot who will never see the big picture.
I think you people are lying. No one else comes in for that particular epithet but Lieberman. There's little wondering why, as far as I'm concerned.
Toby Petzold | Email | Homepage | 12.10.05 - 7:00 pm | #
I'm sorry Toby, I don't normally go in for personal insults but, you are a douchebag. You know there's nothing anti-semitic or anti-religious about it. You know that Lieberman has positioned himself to the right of people like Jimmy Carter, who is every bit as religious as Lieberman, and uses that position to lecture the rest of the Democratic party. You know that Lieberman was chosen in 2000 precisley because he had been so "pious" in regards to impeachment and the Democrats wanted to counteract some of the backlash against Clinton.
And yet here you are with barely vieled cat calls of anti-semitism and anti-religiosity.
Again douchebag.
Here's a poll result guaranteed to make a wingnut's head explode:
Thinking back to when Bill Clinton was in office, would you say you approve or disapprove of the way Clinton handled his job as president?
Billy, that stuff is irrelevant.
And still talking about Katrina? Talk about played out!
Heh.
YOu do not know what is going to hit your asses next year, do you, old pal?
Irrelevant? You only wish.
I, personally am going to shove a splintery broom handle up the figurative ass of the repukes.
Wanna know what would kill the American porn industry immediately? -Make pornography exempt from all copyright and licencing laws.
You're just rationalizing, Carp.
That's interesting, Art. But I don't see the bigger picture.
You know, mena isn't here so
I'm tempted to respond to
the Reactionary Moronic Shitheel(TM)
directly.
But for the nonce, let's simply
remark again that he has quite
explicitly come out in favor of
invading countries for money.
Ey...Funcan Hack is an economist (or, in his case, e-communist). Ask him about tax receipts being the bestest ever.
I, personally am going to shove a splintery broom handle up the figurative ass of the repukes.
Billy B,
You're a brave man. That is one job I wouldn't enjoy, but would cherish doing.
If that makes sense.
.
When taxation goes down, freedom goes up.
You're just rationalizing, Carp.
Toby Petzold | Email | Homepage | 12.10.05 - 7:12 pm | #
No, Toby, you know better.
BTW:
The idea that the Hirsute Moron(TM)
give a rat's ass about anti-semitism
is.....well, ludicrous on the
face of it.
I believe there is a perfect being in the universe.
It's called The Corporation.
Ey...Funcan Hack is an economist (or, in his case, e-communist). Ask him about tax receipts being the bestest ever.
OK Einstein, as you are a chickenshit worm and are skeert to explain away the economic facts I slapped your dumb ass with earlier in the thread, I'm going to feed you your gherkin-like dick.
If you spend more than you take in, you go bust. HYUK HYUK HYUK.
YOu stoopit motherfucker.
The Corporation is proof that there can be Perfect Beings in the Universe.
The Corporation is proof of the existence of God.
And still talking about Katrina? Talk about played out!
Toby Petzold
Tell it to the people still homeless and scattered across the nation thanks to Bush's incompetence.
I dare you. Tell it to them, to their faces, and see what happens next.
natural disasters like hurricanes or earthquakes may not last long but the after effects still remain
FEMA Extends Aid for More Storm Evacuees
WASHINGTON (AP) - People who sought refuge outside the 10 states that absorbed most of the evacuees from Hurricanes Rita and Katrina can remain in hotels at the government's expense while their applications for rental assistance are processed, officials announced Saturday.
The Federal Emergency Management Agency continues to pick up the tab for an estimated 42,000 hotel rooms in 47 states and the District of Columbia. In the 10 states that took in most of the homeless evacuees, FEMA recently pledged to continue paying their hotel bills until Jan. 7, after its previous Dec. 1 deadline was met with widespread criticism.
Ey...Funcan Hack is an economist (or, in his case, e-communist). Ask him about
tax receipts being the bestest ever.
Paul Krugman | Email | 12.10.05 - 7:14 pm | #
What part of "Bush turned historic
surpluses into historic deficits"
don't you get?
the earthquake which deverstaed Pakistani controlled Kashmir may of lasted minutes but the misery contiues. Many people are without tents and if the earthquake did not kill them diease and the cold soon will.
Sonia pledges her support to rehabilitation of Kashmir quake victims
SRINAGAR : The Congress president and UPA chairperson Sonia Gandhi on Saturday concluded her two-day visit to the quake hit areas of Jammu and Kashmir. She pledged support for complete rehabilitation of thousands of earthquake victims saying that whole nation was behind them.
Ms. Gandhi, who visited remote Tangdhar area in Kupwara district was greeted by thousands of people en route. By visiting Teetwal, the last village facing Pakistan Occupied Kashmir (PoK) on the other side she became the first top politician of the country to go so close to LoC.
Wanna know what would kill the American porn industry immediately? -Make pornography exempt from all copyright and licencing laws.
Someone should suggest that one to Holy Joe.
Ooh, no Joementum on the Sunday gasbag shows. But this week's Obligatory Joe Biden is courtesy of ABC's 'This Week With Joe Biden'.
pseudonymous in nc,
No Joe? I'm sure McCain will be loitering -- he's the ultimate media whore.
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The Corporation is proof that there can be Perfect Beings in the Universe.
The Corporation is proof of the existence of God.
darrel
Which darrel are you? The other brother? Nevermind, you wouldn't know.
I'm sure McCain will be loitering -- he's the ultimate media whore.
He's getting to be as bad as Phil Gramm used to be. Every time you turn around, there's fucking John McCain, looking like an albino chipmunk (what the hell is stuffed in those cheek pouches?).
McCain, looking like an albino chipmunk (what the hell is stuffed in those cheek pouches?).
Tena
Soundbits?
.
A quick note for Toby: Sarah Silverman is never going to fuck you.
Liebermans' criticism of Bush is totally hypocritical. He should stop claiming to be a Democrat and acknowledge that he belongs to the Taliban wing of the Republican Party.
I compare Lieberman to Eugene McCarthy (RIP)...one a man of conscience and the other a warmonger who would put his own political agenda before the best interests of the American people...
I'm sure McCain will be loitering -- he's the ultimate media whore.
McCain = Bush's Bitch!
And still talking about Katrina? Talk about played out!
Toby Petzold
Played out?
Not all Americans have the attention spans of fleas!
Paul Krugman | Email | 12.10.05 - 7:14 pm | #
WHO is THIS asshole?
The trolls have completely abandoned any sort of debate over facts or ideas. It's all, "You're a bunch of lazy, godless traitors" and "We're coming for you" and all that shit. What a bunch of pathetic losers.
Guess what, trolls? Bush fucked up. He sucks. He botched the war. Thanks for playing.
JK47
"We're coming for you"
Yeah, right.
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
God..I freakin' hate Christians. I hate them so much that I am willing to make a up a ridiculously phony story about getting bitch slapped around by a couple of Bible thumpers and making myself look like a complete asshole while completely throwing my career and credibility out the window.
Freakin' Christians...it's all their fault!!
Paul Mirecki, Kansas Univ. |
The Bush fellaters are so desperate it's gotten ridiculous.
Just think of how History will judge this Democratic Party: so full of nuttiness like Dean and Mother Sheehan that not even its 2000 Vice Presidential nominee would consent to stand with its leadership on the question of war.
It's damning and you damned well know it.
Toby Petzold
Amazing how wingers can make the word "Mother" sound filthy?
Fuck you, Toby!
People, in general, *are* basically good.
Proof: Our species is still here.
Toby is a dink.
But he's right about the porn industry.
Lieberman is a dink too. He's a front man for AIPAC, an Israel firster and nothing less. Israel is ruining our government, I menat running, oh, wtf, Israel is running and ruining our government.
Yeah x3, I know what some of you want to say, anti-semetism and the same tired old bullshit. Well this is a pre-emptive "go fuck yourself" Ok?
W orst ever.
Tena, Clinton was elected because he knew how to speak the language "aw shucks" - it's a rural form of down home detached stupidity that's swept across the land and it's what gave us W orst Ever.
Kerry, on the other hand, had that smarmy Northeastern elitist twang that said, Hey, vote for me I'm a rich snob who can blather and obfuscate every topic endlessley until you tell me to shut up.
That was B.K.*, wasn't it?
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Carolyn Kay
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If I were gay tha would be cute.
Joe Lieberman speaking out against George Bush? I am astonished. When fellow Republicans begin speaking out against Bush, that can't be good.
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