I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

GravatarHello Goodbye!


Gravatargoodbye hello


Gravatardon't aim for the rim


GravatarCan we keep the trolls downstairs?


Gravataroh well, top six or something


GravatarHecate

Not sure, the trolls are a lot like a meal of bad shrimp.


GravatarHoly Shit. Fred Eper made the front page of yesterday's Post!

Psychiatry Ponders Whether Extreme Bias Can Be an Illness

By Shankar Vedantam
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, December 10, 2005; Page A01

The 48-year-old man turned down a job because he feared that a co-worker would be gay. He was upset that gay culture was becoming mainstream and blamed most of his personal, professional and emotional problems on the gay and lesbian movement.

These fixations preoccupied him every day. Articles in magazines about gays made him agitated. He confessed that his fears had left him socially isolated and unemployed for years: A recovering alcoholic, the man even avoided 12-step meetings out of fear he might encounter a gay person....


GravatarI just fed a load of bad shrimp to the dog.


GravatarHecate: doubtful, unless we are vewy vewy quiet. It just doesn't seem they have *anywhere* else to go...too bad for us.


GravatarSorry if I seem a bit out of it, but what TV show were y'all liveblogging?

I haven't sat in one place long enough tonight to enjoy long-form television. One episode of Duck Dodgers in the 24th and one-half century was about all I could muster, and that was while I was eating dinner.


GravatarR.P. slap my hand, back soul man


GravatarFind the HICA!
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GravatarShiraz!!


GravatarThe Third Man just on TCM. What a great movie! I love Joseph Cotten.


Gravatarraindrops keep falling on my thread


GravatarThese fixations preoccupied him every day. Articles in magazines about gays made him agitated. He confessed that his fears had left him socially isolated and unemployed for years: A recovering alcoholic, the man even avoided 12-step meetings out of fear he might encounter a gay person....

Incog's right. This is what patriarchy has done to some gay people. Because you and I both know that man is gay.


GravatarGot this
http://reason.com/9707/fe.bailey.shtml
through Wolcott.
http://jameswolcott.com/ archives...lligent_des.php

Ronald Bailey brings up several important points, but one in particular has me thinking on a number of other subjects, some which go beyond the pale of conspiracy theory.
Bailey discusses two concepts, one the scientific aspect of evolution and intelligent design, mentioning several names of people who have played a part both large and small in the debate over creation vs evolution, usually on the side of the former rather than the later.
But most of what he covers here can be found just about anywhere if you look closely and go to the right websites on evolution and/or creation/ID.
So the second part which ends up making this article important is the underlaying idea behind why neoconservatives support ID and creationism.
Bailey’s argument, based on personal experiences of himself and others, suggests that support for ID amongst the neoconservatives is based upon a combination of elitism and patriarchy whereby the rich and powerful look out for the poor and meek by creating and supporting institutions that give them purpose while maintaining the status quo that enables them to stay in their positions of power.
In essence Bailey is suggesting that a great many neocons push ID because of their Straussian fears of what would happen should the human race discover there is no god.
In Bailey’s article he discusses Irving Kristol’s actions which belie a meaning other than what he gives publicly. Mainly that without religion mankind would descend into chaos.
How Kristol comes to this conclusion, as does Leo Strauss who first speculated it, and please let us call it mere speculation, is quite unknown.
What Strauss and Kristol think will happen in detail is anyone’s guess, but in their opinion(s) it can’t be good.
I would consider that when making such judgement calls one might weight the sides and base their final decision on whether one even has the right to make the decision in the first place. There is too much to grasp for any one or even a thousand men(and women) to consider before they can make decisions of such magnitude. Then again there are not one thousand members of congress so we make decisions of a somewhat equal magnitude with far less, and the quality of that far less is lessor still.
So when pressed with such an incredible question as whether or not the world would live or die upon learning the truth, approximate or not, these great minds of conservatie thought rely on old age thinking. Thinking that rests upon the arrogance made known by the wisdom of hollywood and Col. Nathan R. Jessup “You can’t handle the truth!!” from the movie ‘A Few Good Men.’ When fighting to combat such a thinking process one ultimately comes back to the phrase “And the truth shall set you free” whose origins are murkey at best but can be found in both secular and religious texts.

....more to follow...


GravatarHere are some more trolls...

Another patient was a waiter so hostile to black people that he flung plates on the table when he served black patrons and got fired from multiple jobs.

A third patient was a Vietnam War veteran who was so fearful of Asians that he avoided social situations where he might meet them, Dunbar said.....


GravatarEver see the Pinky and the Brain version of the Third Man? It was called the Third Mouse. Its best line was Pinky careening through the streets of Vienna shouting, "Oh, Brain, I just love zither music!"


GravatarMay I say:

FUCK BUSH!


GravatarBob Costas on CostasNow....'A lot of black hip hop presents an image of blacks so horrific that the Imperial Wizard of The Ku Klux Klan couldn't dream up a more negative image'.


GravatarI've been coughing up phlegm since my workout.

Man, that was hard.

OK, gotta split. I need to take photos and post sumptin on CraigsList.


Gravatarsallyh,
lovely.


GravatarSo what are we to make of this? That Kristol and his mentor Leo Strauss felt that a social elite possessed the duty to perpetrate a lie upon the human race for the sole sake of preventing something they had no clue would happen? Who are they to make such assumptions? Clearly if this is indeed true then we’re talking about egos of the worst kind. The kind that tend to make decisions that borderline on insanity filled with delusions of grandeur(where have we seen this before? Hmmm?)
I would argue that the motivations for this are both personal and not. Not in the sense that they honestly do think it’s better for everyone in the long run, which asks more questions than it answers, and personally in the sense that it works allowing that they be the ones in the know and in charge of the process.
To me this attitude on the part of conservatives stretches back as far as the merchant and land owner classes of this country’s founding. The founding fathers were deists. Though the southern members of the continental congress were indeed more religious, the northern members and the primary members who wrote the Declaration, Bill of Righst, and the Constitution were almost all conclusively deists. They did not deny the existence of a creator but felt that organizing a religion around invisible nonesense and then demanding servitude to the cause and courses of this invisible being to be incredible when asked of them, yet they felt righteous in allowing others to take part in the stupidity.
The mindset of these men is well documented proving that these men felt it should rest upon themselves to institute a system that empowered men to obtain the truth gradually. They would be in the know of the truth but allow others of a less than economic worth to suffer in dogma until they in essence ‘evolved’ to discover the truth.
Conspiracy theories abound that such cabals of power exist around the world. Illuminati, stonecutters, etc, etc, the list goes on and on, all link to a single minded objective. To keep the masses down and consolidate and preserve their power and priviledge.
I recall reading a book several years ago that said the causes of the revolution had little to do with taxes and foreign levies. Instead, the author suggests that the premise had to do with the recognition the country’s leaders had that a new country should have new and different origins. It was just starting and although many of it’s institutions were already firmly in place, the organization of it all under a central government made up of smaller governments made them realize that the chance to start this country different than the others meant taking on a challenge of intellectual components. This implied that the founding fathers wanted to make sure that we did not end up like England, or France. A wealthy class lording it over a labor and soldier class.


More to come.....


GravatarThe Universe is not an Artifact.


GravatarThis is what patriarchy has done to some gay people. Because you and I both know that man is gay.
Hecate Malificent

well, apparantly toby likes to post homoerotic poetry.


Gravatarthough they were invested in the upper classes themelves they knew that the absence of a divine monarchy would ensure that even the lower classes could find their way to the top over many generations. why they would do this shows just how much these men cared about raising people out of intellectual lethargy.
but the conspiracy theories abound that these men were simply more of the same and were in a power struggle with the throne of england over the how and where to implement their continued lordship over the people. this prompted them to take matters into their own hands thinking that a oceanic devide would give them some means of protection from the long arm of their prior benefactors.
all of it is speculation, though some of it is documented with letters and actions which lend itself to the notion that control is behind it all. and we all know what control is about in the minds of conservatives.
but taking this back to strauss and kristoll, strauss does not give a clear case for keeping the masses down other than to control their actions. keep them amenable and subject to higher authority which would always rest in the upper classes. that they have managed to fool themselves into thinking it’s good for everyone involved is similar to the attitude slave masters had, as well as the confederate apologists, that negros were better under their lordship than free in their own lands in africa. by bringing them here and showing them civilization it would benefit them in the long run. how slavery could benefit anyone is beyond me, and the argument loses it’s legitimacy upon every examination. this same attitude it seems extends even to caucasians where as blacks were relegated to slavery as a means of control, whites were placed under the heal of religion. if one examines both you can see the similarities in principle and process. servitude to a higher authority, demands that you be greatful, abidance to rules of behavior, and punishment if you should break them.
one can see that the likes of kristol and strauss, both of whome come from backgrounds where attitudes regarding superiority to others is highly stressed, relish this kind of social status cause it gives them peace of mind that things will not change outside of their control.
liberals in contrast, think quite the opposite, that in addition to being able to stand up for themselves as long as the rules of the game are adhered to then all is right. but as we all know, the rules are never followed by those with the attitude that as long as they have the will and the way to circumvent them they will always do so. some might argue this is indicative of life in general. all of us struggle against the rules of the world only to try and break them to improve our lot. but that is not the case here and we know it.

..more to come...


GravatarI find it sad that so many fundies describe themselves as "God-fearing". Aren't they trying to walk the path of Jesus? Did Jesus fear God? Why don't they love God as he did? If perfect love casteth out fear, then if they truly love God, how could they possibly be God-fearing? Am I missing something?


Gravatarsmarty jones: lovely.

If that was Sallyh, I am the Queen of England.
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GravatarEver see the Pinky and the Brain version of the Third Man? It was called the Third Mouse. Its best line was Pinky careening through the streets of Vienna shouting, "Oh, Brain, I just love zither music!"
Smitty W., tea faerie


I love the one where they took off on the Beatles......when they went to see the Mahareshi (?).


GravatarA lot of black hip hop presents an image of blacks so horrific that the Imperial Wizard of The Ku Klux Klan couldn't dream up a more negative image'.

I hate to say this, but I agree with Costas on this. If you didn't know you were watching MTV you'd think most of these videos were some type of redneck parody or kiddie porn. I won't say that all hip hop artists are like this, but there are more than a few.


GravatarBELLLLLLLLLLLCH!

Greetings, fair coffee mugs of virtue. Just got back from dinner with the Atriots. Everyone sends their warmest wishes for this HOLIDAY season.


GravatarI find it sad that so many fundies describe themselves as "God-fearing".



Sorry, I don't love or respect anything I'm supposed to fear.


GravatarThe founding fathers were deists.
You mean they believed in Intelligent Design?


GravatarHi, folks.


Gravatarnope. not our sallyh.


GravatarHi watertiger-

So many trolls here tonight. You have been missed. Any good Atrioditic gossip/news?


GravatarHey there. Anybody else working tonight? It's the end of the semester, and I have a few more papers to mark and a bunch of grades to tabulate. I'm just here so I can complain and read some decent writing -- scary thought: Some of my students make some of our trolls look literate, even though I've been trying and trying all year to improve the situation (*sigh*).

The good news for the day is, apparently some people say the Montreal summit on the Kyoto Protocol has breathed some life into the thing. Rumours of its demise seem to have been exaggerated.


GravatarYou mean they believed in Intelligent Design?

Counterfeit.
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GravatarI also think the Imperial Wizard of the KKK could probably dream up more ghastly images. I never downplay people's creativity when it comes to making up bullshit.


GravatarLiberals believe that a man has the right to be a drug addict or a bum as long as he doesn't hurt anybody.


GravatarAs i mentioned before there were two reasons why strauss and kristol might follow such a mentality, and it has to do reasons both personal and not personal. they might honestly believe that they have the right and the will to keep people ignorant of the truth, and isolated from ways in which they might obtain help in finding the truth. this is where their support of id comes in. They might have faith in god but they certainly don’t believe in him and they more than certainly don’t obey the rules god placed before them. Try as they might the people are getting smarter, and the truth closer. As education starts to finally sink in and people as a whole get wiser we can see a trend whereby the powers that be begin trying to rein in education, particularly public education. With the onslaught of private and charter schools which are immersed in ideologies and disciplines, all of them forms of control in one way or another, we see the liberal and enlightened way of doing things going along the wayside. Control, control, control.
As long as people start to sense that things are not as they should be then we are going to see people like Kristol and Strauss stress changes in the social fabric to remove the means by which people obtain the senses to question authority. Removal of public education is one such step.

But in conclusion as this got too long, I have to wonder what else these people know but have chosen to keep from the masses?
My X-Files obsession tends to think that if the existence of alien life elsewhere were to pop up it would send the fundies headspin into turmoil. Of course efforts have already been made to prepare for this by accusing any alien species of being the 'demons' of biblical legend.
Hogwash all of it.
But it would fit with the premise of keeping everyone stupid so that they don't become smart enough to stand up and be counted on to do what is right when it is required.

Sometimes I wish I lived in the Star Trek Universe. When was the last time you saw a christian or any other religion of today's status on Star Trek?

MYOB'
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GravatarA lot of black hip hop presents an image of blacks so horrific that the Imperial Wizard of The Ku Klux Klan couldn't dream up a more negative image'.

I hate to say this, but I agree with Costas on this. If you didn't know you were watching MTV you'd think most of these videos were some type of redneck parody or kiddie porn. I won't say that all hip hop artists are like this, but there are more than a few.
Monica_A


African-American gal I work with, Jackie - the one who is always busting on Condi because she can't stand her - calls the rap and hip hop videos "latter day minstrel shows."

She's a rhythm and blues/jazz person and she thinks rap and hip hop send the wrong message.


Gravatar whereby the rich and powerful look out for the poor and meek by creating and supporting institutions that give them purpose while maintaining the status quo that enables them to stay in their positions of power.

that's right out of the playbook of the post-Stalin marxist social critics, like Lukacs, Adorno, and Chomsky, too, come to think of it (probably; think of his critiqque of sports)


GravatarLiberals believe

... that name-stealing cowards should impale their assholes on large, sharp, rusty objects. And die.
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GravatarLiberals believe that a man has the right to be a drug addict or a bum as long as he doesn't hurt anybody.
sallyh


Namestealer.

A retard of a namestealer, too!


Gravatarnamestealer last night too. wasn't all that magnificent at it then either.


Gravatar... that name-stealing cowards should impale their assholes on large, sharp, rusty objects. And die.
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Jeffraham Prestonian


May I be Vlad?


GravatarI agree with you friend, Terry C. Women aren't car accessories and shouldn't be shown as such.


GravatarLiberals believe that a man has the right to be a drug addict or a bum as long as he doesn't hurt anybody.

Sure. I believe that. An' it harm none, do as ye will.


GravatarSometimes I wish I lived in the Star Trek Universe. When was the last time you saw a christian or any other religion of today's status on Star Trek?

MYOB'


Well, as they like to say on all the Star Treks, they embrace logic.


GravatarThe Third Man just on TCM. What a great movie! I love Joseph Cotten.
rococco


He's the greatest. My favorite actor, pretty much. Him and Robert Ryan.


GravatarHi, folks.
Vicki

Hi, Vicki!


GravatarWell, Knight-Ritter is still for sale, and management doesn't seem to be getting what they wanted. Sorry to beat this dying horse, but K-R may be the best of the MSM. They certainly were the most honest in the run-up to the Fabulous Iraq Adventure. Every time there was an article which seemed to have any believablilty, it was from K-R. I'm sure the management doesn't want to work for some outfit where their sins against the party line will haunt them. It's time that the bloggers should start talking of tendering an offer. It's not like they can't raise funds. Sort of take this blogger-as-career to an evolved level. The beauty that was CNN was that in the 80's one could choose to watch some stuffed shirt in a studio, or someone working for Ted Turner on the scene in Nicaragua. The local aspect of all the coverage is pathetic right now. I would bet the K-R management would be interested in some creative, if risky, enterprise, rather than grovelling for the bastards who put them out of business. Maybe I've got my head up my ass on this...just tell me to STFU.


GravatarLiberals believe that a man has the right to be a drug addict or a bum as long as he doesn't hurt anybody.
sallyh


So do libertarians.


GravatarHe's the greatest. My favorite actor, pretty much. Him and Robert Ryan.
Phila


You know, I've always admired you. A lot. I am now in love with you.


GravatarIt's pretty pathetic that someone has such a low opinion of their own ideals that they have to post them under someone's stolen name...


GravatarI'm soooo sleepy. Just got back to the hotel after a lovely dinner with HBK, shawk, Kenosha, ql (and mr ql) and watertiger. Whee!


GravatarAny good Atrioditic gossip/news?

QL and Mr. QL are still debating whether to move to Portland or Philly, TKK is still out for Eli, HBK is lookin' good, given all that she's been through of late, Shawk regaled us with tales of absolutely ingenious inventions he created, and NTodd admitted that the only soup he makes is Progresso.

Unfortunately, Steve Simels couldn't make it, and res ipsa loquitur was trapped at a holiday party.


GravatarI agree with you friend, Terry C. Women aren't car accessories and shouldn't be shown as such.
Monica_A


I remember the morning I woke up about 4 am. Couldn't get back to sleep.

Was channel-hopping.

I saw a video by (I believe) Nelly that absolutely turned my stomach.


Gravatar"Liberals believe that a man has the right to be a drug addict or a bum as long as he doesn't hurt anybody."

I say let Rush be Rush. He's got pain, man!


GravatarYou know, I've always admired you. A lot. I am now in love with you.
Vicki


I'm blushing!


GravatarNTodd,

I turned to TKK as we left you on B'way and said, "He's gonna get sooo lost."

I'm proud of you.


GravatarHi, my favorite horse!


GravatarYeah, pretty much. What's the problem with that?


GravatarI love Joseph Cotten

Aldo Rayon was a poor imitation.


GravatarMy gimp is in NYC this weekend. If I find out that she was hanging out with the Atriots without me, I swear she's going back in the box!


Gravatar"and NTodd admitted that the only soup he makes is Progresso."

i knew he would be the one with all the interesting conversation!


GravatarSimels blew you off again?

Man ....


GravatarI'm soooo sleepy. Just got back to the hotel after a lovely dinner with HBK, shawk, Kenosha, ql (and mr ql) and watertiger. Whee!
NTodd


Envy abounds!


GravatarQL and Mr. QL are still debating whether to move to Portland or Philly,

Portland is awfully nice. It just keeps getting nicer every time I visit.

But on the east coast, you're closer to more cities, which is what I miss about living out here. Then again, I missed the desert when I lived on the east coast, so you can't win.


GravatarLiberals believe that a man has the right to be a drug addict or a bum as long as he doesn't hurt anybody.



Whereas conservatives think they have the right to poke their noses in everyone's business, including what they do in their bedrooms.


GravatarWatertiger, thanks for the update on the Atriots. Looking forward to the next Echacon.


Gravatarwatertiger-

But I meant the important stuff. For example, was Ntodd wearing pants?


GravatarSimels blew you off again?

Man ....


Go easy on the man; he's up against deadlines.

Besides, it just makes the times we do see him even that much more special!


GravatarI agree with you friend, Terry C. Women aren't car accessories and shouldn't be shown as such.
Monica_A


Women aren't THINGS and shouldn't be portrayed as such!


GravatarI turned to TKK as we left you on B'way and said, "He's gonna get sooo lost."

What? It's all straight lines here! NYC is easy. Try backwoods Vermont, or St Paul...


GravatarAny good Atrioditic gossip/news?

QL and Mr. QL are still debating whether to move to Portland or Philly,
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they should move to new mexico. all the really cool atriots live in new mexico.


Gravatar For example, was Ntodd wearing pants?

Well, things got interesting after his second Guinness...


GravatarSo, do we know where the next NYC mini-EschaCon will be held?


Gravatar"conservatives think they have the right to poke their noses in everyone's business, including what they do in their bedrooms."

Terry C, as it turns out, they are mostly concerned with bedrooms above all. Well, of domestic social issues.


GravatarWe're thinking of giving the kids heroin for Christmas. They make the cutest little Bill O'Reilly syringes.


GravatarI'm starting to feel like an outsider here, standing far from the clique.


GravatarAldo Rayon was a poor imitation.
JeffCO


Is that what he was shooting for? That never would've occurred to me.

Joseph Cotten, though...he was in some weird movies. Ever see "Man With a Cloak"? Or "The Killer is Loose," featuring Wendell Corey in drag?


GravatarEvening, pAtriots


Gravatar So, do we know where the next NYC mini-EschaCon will be held?

Somewhere in NYC.


GravatarJoseph Cotten, though...he was in some weird movies. Ever see "Man With a Cloak"? Or "The Killer is Loose," featuring Wendell Corey in drag?
Phila


"The Abominable Dr. Phibes."


Gravatarall the really cool atriots live in new mexico

Step outside in Wis. right now and you'll find out who the Cool Atriots really are...


GravatarGo easy on the man; he's up against deadlines. ...watertiger | Email -- 10:43 pm

usta say, when in the writin' biz: wasn't for deadlines, i wouldn't have no lines at all...
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GravatarNext, on Taxi Cab Confessions:

"I only make Progresso"


Gravatarthey are mostly concerned with bedrooms above all.

That's because they are afreud of their own hidden desires.


GravatarWe're thinking of giving the kids heroin for Christmas. They make the cutest little Bill O'Reilly syringes.
Thers


It's high time you did. They'll never learn the value of money 'til they have a habit.


GravatarOh Hell, Rorschach, try being me. (I don't quite fit in anywhere)


Gravatar"conservatives think they have the right to poke their noses in everyone's business, including what they do in their bedrooms."

Terry C, as it turns out, they are mostly concerned with bedrooms above all. Well, of domestic social issues.
cgreen


They need to mind their own fucking business!


GravatarCalling the founding fathers deists is irrelevant. Deism gets you no closer to Atheism.
Deism is committed to the existence of a perfect being.


Gravatar I'm starting to feel like an outsider here, standing far from the clique.

Will you be in DC for the big cattle drive?


GravatarNext, on Taxi Cab Confessions:

"I only make Progresso"


That's why we're called progressoives.


GravatarTrudeau as Justice Minister said the State had no business in the Nations bedrooms.


GravatarWe're thinking of giving the kids heroin for Christmas. They make the cutest little Bill O'Reilly syringes.

Toys R Us has a very nice children's meth lab kit.


GravatarOh Hell, Rorschach, try being me. (I don't quite fit in anywhere)
DWD


Eh, I tried that, but the prose was too spare.


Gravatarphila,

(join us, come to us, join us....)


GravatarWe're thinking of giving the kids heroin for Christmas. They make the cutest little Bill O'Reilly syringes.
Thers

god how i miss the clinton white house. when the first lady put crack pipes on the just mas tree, i shouted with glee.


GravatarAre you a Republican or will you be having sex with your own species today?


Gravatarwhoops, that was rorsch.

rorsch,

(join us, come to us, join us...)


GravatarWill you be in DC for the big cattle drive?
Thers


Oh, indeedy. I've no interviews, nor no rejections, as yet. M, meanwhile, has 3 or 4 interviews in DC!!! (And she's the one who's stressed!)


GravatarThe Third Man just on TCM. What a great movie! I love Joseph Cotten.

Gorgeous cinematography, too. That last scene with the allee of leafless trees....


GravatarThat's because they are afreud of their own hidden desires.
JeffCO - 10:46 pm


careful, jung man...that stuff can make you horney...


Gravatarregresso?


Gravatar"You mean they believed in Intelligent Design?"

Jeffraham Prestonian | Email | Homepage | 12.10.05 - 10:34 pm | #


In a nutshell yes.

MYOB'
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GravatarDeism is committed to the existence of a perfect being.

No it isn't.


Gravataroppresso?


GravatarWill you be in DC for the big cattle drive?

?????????????????


GravatarDeism gets you no closer to Atheism.
Deism is committed to the existence of a perfect being.
sallyh


It gets you very close indeed to a rejection of bigotry, schism, interventionist deity, bone-stupid superstition, and hireling priesthood. Which is good enough for me.

I don't give a fuck what people believe, and I don't want atheism crammed down my throat by fiat anymore than I want to be forced into crypto-Satanism of religious conservatism.


GravatarSo, do we know where the next NYC mini-EschaCon will be held?

There's a party in my pants...

TKK's expression was so funny when I told him you'd be here. I believe "shock and alarm" registered.


Gravatarrorsch,

(join us, come to us, join us...)
watertiger


You are a sweetheart!


GravatarFor all the parental units:

Show a picture of a meth user with meth mouth and your child (children) will never touch a drug. My son caught a CBS News report about the burgeoning meth culture in Death Valley; the drooping and bleeding gums freaked his little ass out.


Gravatarrepresso?


GravatarDeism gets you no closer to Atheism.
Deism is committed to the existence of a perfect being.
sallyh

It gets you very close indeed to a rejection of bigotry, schism, interventionist deity, bone-stupid superstition, and hireling priesthood. Which is good enough for me.


God Himself came down from Heaven and told me I should be a deist!


Gravatartransgresso?


GravatarOh, indeedy.

Mary will be there at least, I may go too. Let us know, we'll go smash the state or sumpin'.


Gravatarrepresso?

I didn't know Laura Bush had her own brand of soup.


GravatarYou know what's depressing?

To re-watch Eminem's "Mosh" video now.


GravatarWill you be in DC for the big cattle drive?

?????????????????
Hecate Malificent


Translation: MLA convention.


Gravatardeism: advocating natural religion based on human reason rather than revelation, emphasizing morality, and in the 18th century denying the interference of the Creator with the laws of the universe.

Since Jefferson et al were operating in the 18th Century, I'm doubtful they were looking for a Perfect Being In The Sky (or your heart, wherever your god lives).


Gravatarthe drooping and bleeding gums freaked his little ass out.
Monica_A

meth mouth is nasty.... that's why missouri has become a red state.


GravatarWill you be in DC for the big cattle drive?

?????????????????


You don't know about the giant DC cattle drive?


GravatarI'm too high strung to smoke marijuana. It makes me paranoid.


Gravatarrepresso?

I didn't know Laura Bush had her own brand of soup.
Monica_A


it's based on the recipe for homer's homemade prozzac


GravatarWe're thinking of giving the kids heroin for Christmas. They make the cutest little Bill O'Reilly syringes.
Thers | Email | Homepage | 12.10.05 - 10:44 pm | #
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one christmas i was trying to think of a present for my nephew who was about seven at the time. i wanted to get him something really cool that he would really like, so i thought about what i would have wanted when i was his age. what would i think would be a really cool gift? and the only thing i could come up with was this:

a big box of those matches that you can strike anywhere.

of course i didn't get him that. can't remember what i got him.


GravatarCourse, maybe you wanted to have a party in DC w/o me. That's ok. I don't mind.

~runs from room weeping, a la watertiger~


GravatarDepresso, opposite of Expresso,contains Valium instead of caffine.


GravatarThere's a party in my pants...

I thought that was sugar.


GravatarMy son caught a CBS News report about the burgeoning meth culture in Death Valley; the drooping and bleeding gums freaked his little ass out.

It's no joke. You want to watch where you hike out there, these days. Wander into the wrong canyon, and you can find yourself in serious trouble.

This may not sound liberal of me, but meth labs out to be wiped the fuck out. They poison everything around them, they're often boobytrapped, and a fair amount of the money they earn goes to white-supremacist madmen.


GravatarNim,

It popped up on my iPod after a long absence; god, I remember that feeling I had wearing a black hoodie to the polls.

The nuns on line in front of me, slamming the Chimperor...

Sigh.


GravatarDammit, my laptop power cord is not working again. Must shutdown immediately.


GravatarTranslation: MLA convention.

Translation, please.


GravatarGreetings, fair coffee mugs of virtue. Just got back from dinner with the Atriots. Everyone sends their warmest wishes for this HOLIDAY season.
watertiger


Actually, we didn't. Send our regards that is. We were having way too much fun to even think of you guys.

Just kidding.


GravatarI'm too high strung to smoke marijuana. It makes me paranoid.
sallyh |


It actually chills me the fuck out in spite of my beimng high strung


Gravatar~runs from room weeping, a la watertiger~

y'know what I need to devise? A miniature of my desk, so I can bang it against my forehead AS I run sobbing from the room!

THAT would be COOL!


GravatarIt makes me paranoid.

Longer namestealing troll:

Make a joke and I will sigh and you will laugh and I will cry
Happiness I cannot feel and love to me is so unreal
And so as you hear these words telling you now of my state
I tell you to enjoy life I wish I could but it's too late


GravatarHecate, it's between Xmas & New Year's. something can soitanly be arranged! (Though Mary is in charge of all social events in our houselhold, as I am hopelesly incompetent at that sort of thing.)


Gravatarwow, i waited, and waited for a new thread. got here late anyway, and it's just full of gobs, and gobs of interesting but unrelated thoughts.

so fuck bush anyway, i don't think i've called him a war criminal lately.


GravatarTHAT would be COOL!
watertiger


the watertiger action playset


Gravatarnick carraway | 12.10.05 - 10:53 pm | #

Jefferson and others made it quite clear they despised organized religion and christians worse of all. They hated it and felt no problem with expressing this hatred on paper between them and those they trusted with their correspondence.

But they did make it quite clear that they admired Jesus. They simply chose to follow and respect the message, not the man. Instead of a death cult they chose a respect for law and order(not the tv shows)

MYOB'
.


GravatarI thought that was sugar.

Heh.

(looks down to make sure sugar packet isn't still wedged in jeans)


GravatarWill you be in DC for the big cattle drive?

Huh?

Whatever happens, I'm never going to try to organize lunch for you guys.


GravatarIt's no joke. You want to watch where you hike out there, these days. Wander into the wrong canyon, and you can find yourself in serious trouble.

This may not sound liberal of me, but meth labs out to be wiped the fuck out. They poison everything around them, they're often boobytrapped, and a fair amount of the money they earn goes to white-supremacist madmen.


I can verify this from personal experience.

Trailer with confederate flags. Multiple mangy dogs. Redneck fucks. My friend who took me there said, "don't wander around, there are traps." Crazy fucking scene.

This was in the Ouachitas, just north of Hot Springs, Arkansas.


GravatarThis may not sound liberal of me, but meth labs out to be wiped the fuck out. They poison everything around them, they're often boobytrapped, and a fair amount of the money they earn goes to white-supremacist madmen. Phila

God damn the pusherman.


Gravatary'know what I need to devise? A miniature of my desk, so I can bang it against my forehead AS I run sobbing from the room!

Ask shawk to work one up when he's in Belgium.


GravatarAsk shawk to work one up when he's in Belgium.

I thought of that.


Gravatary'know what I need to devise? A miniature of my desk, so I can bang it against my forehead AS I run sobbing from the room!

What about gloves with little desk-paddles on them?


GravatarYou should all go to jail for doing drugs and they lock you up for good...do you do drugs with your kids you sick fucks.


GravatarDamn, I shoulda read deeper into the thread.


GravatarGod damn the pusherman.
JeffCO |


man
yoiu are channelling the greats tonite


GravatarWhatever happens, I'm never going to try to organize lunch for you guys.

Just take 'em to Ben's Chili Bowl.


GravatarThis may not sound liberal of me, but meth labs out to be wiped the fuck out. They poison everything around them, they're often boobytrapped, and a fair amount of the money they earn goes to white-supremacist madmen.
Phila | Homepage | 12.10.05 - 10:55 pm | #



got a link for that claim?


GravatarLonger namestealing troll:

I'm Just a gigolo, everywhere I go
People know the part I'm playing
Paid for every dance, selling each romance
Oh what they're saying
There will come a day when youth will pass away
What will they say about me
When the end comes I know
They'll say "just a gigolo."
Life goes on without me.


GravatarI don't give a fuck what people believe, and I don't want atheism crammed down my throat by fiat anymore than I want to be forced into crypto-Satanism of religious conservatism.
Phila


I don't give a fuck what people believe, either. What would be really neat is if they didn't give a fuck right back at me. But they do. They give God's Own Fuck...


Gravatarlong john silver
quit whining like a titty baby


GravatarInstead of a death cult they chose a respect for law and order(not the tv shows)
MYOB

ever see Law & Order: Founding Fathers?

My fav episode was when Hamilton got whacked in a duel.


GravatarOh, MLA is the massive gathering of all English departments from across the land. There are panels, speeches, cotillions, drug deals, shootouts, and the Marxist Cash Bar. Interviews are usually done there so desperate grad students come from all over as supplicants in a very medieval fashion.


GravatarHasidic Reggae.


GravatarThey'll say "just a gigolo."
Life goes on without me.
Phila

naturally this is the version by David Lee Roth


GravatarWould it be fun if everyone became a namestealer all at the same time?


Gravatargot a link for that claim?
gary in fl


What claim? I made several.

Look it up yourself, in any case.


GravatarHecate, it's between Xmas & New Year's. something can soitanly be arranged! (Though Mary is in charge of all social events in our houselhold, as I am hopelesly incompetent at that sort of thing.)
Thers


You and I married similar people. As did they.

Hecate:

Modern Language Association has its national convention each year just after Xmas. If one is on the job market, one must go there. This year, the convention is in DC.


GravatarJust take 'em to Ben's Chili Bowl.
watertiger


Yeah, I'm all for it, but somebody would be a vegetarian, and somebody else would be allergic to tomatoes, and somebody else wouldn't want to walk that far.


Gravatarlong john silver whines like a littkle sookie baby


GravatarMonkey Lepers (named) Arthur?
My Loyalty's Argumentative?
Money Loves Atrittion?
Morris Lewis Association?
Mad Ludwig's Ancestry?
Ming Local Artwork?
Menshevik-on-Leninist Atrocities?
Mink Longcoat Attack?
Meet Larry's Adulterer?
Mincing Lancing Abbatoir?


GravatarYeah, I'm all for it, but somebody would be a vegetarian, and somebody else would be allergic to tomatoes, and somebody else wouldn't want to walk that far.

Welcome to my world.


GravatarI am currently working on a novel about a crystal meth lab operator and his neighbor, a failed theologian. Think of it as Flannery O'Connor meets William Burroughs.


GravatarOh, indeedy. I've no interviews, nor no rejections, as yet. M, meanwhile, has 3 or 4 interviews in DC!!! (And she's the one who's stressed!)
rorschach | Homepage | 12.10.05 - 10:49 pm | #
******************

if you wind up in dc, you should trek up to baltimore now and then. it's actually a very odd place. you have to sort of discover it for yourself, though.


GravatarI'm gonna steal Watertiger's name.

Or Ntodd's.

Or maybe VV.


GravatarMy fav episode was when Hamilton got whacked in a duel.
smarty jones |


i alos loved when lenny briscoe arrested john wilkes boothe


Gravatara big box of those matches that you can strike anywhere.

oh yeah baby, any kid would dig that, hell i'm putting it on my list.

FIRE, FIRE.. HEY, HEY,,,


GravatarI'm Just a gigolo, everywhere I go

David Lee Roth could really write lyrics.


Gravatardo you do drugs with your kids you sick fucks.
Long John Silver

no, but Rush crams drugs down his pie hole with that CNN ho.


GravatarMincing Lancing Abbatoir?

Marionettes Licking Anvils


GravatarHenry Wadsworth Longfellow has got to be the best porno name ever!


GravatarMYOB: yeah. No need for the Perfect Being In The Sky.

I read about the Jefferson Bible in the most recent Harper's, and I want to get hold of a copy sometime.


GravatarThe GOP is on the ropes, and gary wants to talk about meth labs. Pffft.


GravatarDavid Lee Roth could really write lyrics.
Thers


great minds and shit!


Gravatari alos loved when lenny briscoe arrested john wilkes boothe
olexicon,snark-handler

i think that was Law & Order: Civil War Unit


Gravatar~runs back into the room, looks around, wipes tears from eyes~

OK, so long as you weren't planning a party and not telling me.


GravatarHmm, why am I suddenly thinking of TH?

She gonna put that sugar on my tongue
She's gonna gonna gimme gimme gimme some
She'll put it right there on my tongue
Put it right there on my tongue


Gravatarthe KinG James Brown Bible


GravatarI'm steeeeeling smarty jones, Olaf and Smitty W.


GravatarThis may not sound liberal of me, but meth labs out to be wiped the fuck out. They poison everything around them, they're often boobytrapped, and a fair amount of the money they earn goes to white-supremacist madmen.
Phila - 10:55 pm


d'accorde...dats some bad shit...there's a little place south of here called Los Lunas, about 20 miles. the locals say that 50-60% of the folx in the town are tweeks...

bad shit...


GravatarHey Peeps!

As an RDH, let me just say that I can spot meth mouth a mile away! It's bogus!
(and Bush has it too!)


GravatarWelcome to my world.

All I ask is that it not be crowded, or blaring deafening music. One of the things that turned me off of Drinking Liberally, actually.


GravatarMy fav episode was when Hamilton got whacked in a duel.

I'm reading his biog right now (a reader bot it fer me off'n my wishlist). Oddly, he's tied with Jefferson in my pantheon of Framers. I like flaws and contradictions.


GravatarI get much love from my dealerman
Always coming through with the herbal plan
I get much love from my dealerman
Always coming through oh yeah.


Is that whiny unhinged Long John Silver here? God, what a fuckhead.


Gravatar You should all go to jail for doing drugs and they lock you up for good...do you do drugs with your kids you sick fucks.

Crack with the baby, every night!


Gravatar~runs back into the room, looks around, wipes tears from eyes~

OK, so long as you weren't planning a party and not telling me.


(hands Hecate a newly-minted miniature of the watertiger desk)


GravatarYeah, I'm all for it, but somebody would be a vegetarian, and somebody else would be allergic to tomatoes, and somebody else wouldn't want to walk that far.

Holy shit! You're in my coven????


GravatarHello, Jennifer!


GravatarI like flaws and contradictions.

wrapped in bacon.


GravatarYou should all go to jail for doing drugs -Moran Troll

I want to take you higher.


Gravatar~runs back into the room, looks around, wipes tears from eyes~

OK, so long as you weren't planning a party and not telling me.
Hecate Malificent


We weren't planning anything.

We now, however, could...


Gravatarpeace and humptiness forever


GravatarYou should all go to jail for doing drugs and they lock you up for good...do you do drugs with your kids you sick fucks.

Crack with the baby, every night!

I send junior out for menthol cigarettes everynight!


GravatarI like flaws and contradictions.

wrapped in bacon.


I don't want to go to jail.


GravatarDavid Lee Roth, shit. Try Louis Prima, who also wrote Jump Jive and Wail.


GravatarThe Jefferson Bible can be accessed online and printed. Its in the public domain and is rather short.


Gravatarwatertiger: I like flaws and contradictions.

wrapped in bacon.


Sure! We all do!

</struthers>
.


GravatarYou should all go to jail for doing drugs and they lock you up for good...do you do drugs with your kids you sick fucks.

What kids? I abort all mine. Not only do I enjoy snuffing out innocent life, but the wife loves the painkillers the baby-murderers dish out to whores like her.


Gravatarpass the dutchie on the lefthand side


Gravataryou should trek up to baltimore now and then. it's actually a very odd place. you have to sort of discover it for yourself, though.

but don't go to the inner harbor, it's fuck'n bullshit. well, the aquarium was ok (is that still there?) and the horse you came in on is ok i guess.

actually, i can't think of any cool places in baltimore, come to think of it that's why i left. on the other hand i do miss maryland.


GravatarTry Louis Prima, who also wrote Jump Jive and Wail.

Already on the iPod.


GravatarYou should all go to jail for doing drugs -Moran Troll

I want to take you higher.
Boom shaka-laka-laka Boom shaka-laka-laka


Gravatar
All I ask is that it not be crowded, or blaring deafening music.


We could do the Elmhurst pad, I suppose.


GravatarVicki and Jen on the same thread! Hey you two.


GravatarYOU ARE ALL FUCKING MORONS AND FRENCH LOVING FUCKS! ALL YOU DO IS WHINE AND BITCH ABOUT STUFF AND NEVER DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT...EVEN IF YOU PLEAD ON YOUR HANDS AND KNESS YOU WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED IN THE WINNING PARTY


GravatarAlready on the iPod.

Ditto...


GravatarI'm steeeeeling smarty jones, Olaf and Smitty W.
namesteeeeeleeeeer

hell, if you want it, you can have it. i'll just need $10,000.


GravatarI wish I could "go wingnut" so I, too, could know what it is like to live in perpetual fear.
.


GravatarTry Louis Prima, who also wrote Jump Jive and Wail.

Already on the iPod.
watertiger


I'll probably load that the same day I load Richard Cheese's album.


GravatarHey, Feral Liberal!

How is life? The kids? The family?


GravatarYou should all go to jail for doing drugs and they lock you up for good...do you do drugs with your kids you sick fucks.

What kids? I abort all mine. Not only do I enjoy snuffing out innocent life, but the wife loves the painkillers the baby-murderers dish out to whores like her.
Phila


There's nothing wrong with your lifestyle choice, but I prefer to ingest heroin by injecting it into a baby and then drinking its blood.

But that's just me.


GravatarI'll probably load that the same day I load Richard Cheese's album.

Which is awesome.


GravatarLong John Silver tries desperately to channel MERKIN PATRIOT and fails.

You're not funny, and you're not even making sense. Go to bed.


GravatarHey Feral! Hey Vixen! What it is?


GravatarJames J: but of course. I usually end up thinking in terms of books... habit dies hard. thanks.


Gravataractually, i can't think of any cool places in baltimore,

Little italy. Eastern Market. The glass pavilion at John Hopkins.


GravatarI'll probably load that the same day I load Richard Cheese's album.

Which is awesome.
Eli


Just a lounge singer singing "I wanna fuck you like an animal" puts me on the floor every time.


GravatarAnyone seen Narnia yet?
I don't want to take my kids to see a movie written by a fornicator who lived with a women who was not his wife.

A family man has to stand up for something now and again. No More Fornicating Christians!

MYOB'
.


GravatarJen,

What's the "of Selun" thing?


GravatarWhatever happens, I'm never going to try to organize lunch for you guys.

Oh, I don't know. Mary and Watertiger seemed to manage it with a mere wave of the hand.

BTW - Who is handling the arrangements for EschaCon II in Chicago?


GravatarWhat's the use of getting sober when you're gonna get drunk again?


Gravataractually, i can't think of any cool places in baltimore,

Little italy. Eastern Market. The glass pavilion at John Hopkins.
Hecate Malificent

Those housing projects featured in The Wire.


GravatarWhat's the use of getting sober when you're gonna get drunk again?

Louis Jordan?


GravatarJust a lounge singer singing "I wanna fuck you like an animal" puts me on the floor every time.

Exactly.

Also Black Velvet Flag's mellow lounge rendition of "Institutionalized".


Gravatarhow does one best prepare 30 week fetus for Fitzmas?


GravatarJeffraham: gonna have to lose quite a few brain cells to 'go wingnut'...


GravatarAlso Black Velvet Flag's mellow lounge rendition of "Institutionalized".
Eli

the Fugs My Baby Done Left me?


GravatarWhat's the use of getting sober when you're gonna get drunk again?
JeffCO


Yeah, it's like making a bed.


GravatarWell, I had every intention of editing some photos and hanging out here, but I'm fading fast. Goodnight you lying liberal french fucking drug doing kid killing, uh...bad people. Save some Xtian baby blood for me...


GravatarHow is life? The kids? The family?

Well, no kids in this picture, but the cats are doing well, although they don't like the cold. Life is busy, but beats the alternative. Bottling wine tomorrow!


GravatarMYOB,

Saw it today. Kids will like it, but grownups may as well wait for Netflix. One very young child cried when Aslan died. It's a lot to cram into one movie. Witch was cool, but, as in the books, there's no motivation for her evil. Good look at sibling rivalry.


GravatarJen, Shouldn't you be the "almost Mrs. of Hamhock of liberty>"

ql in ny ~

Tena is handling, and I am helping. And I believe there are a few others...don't know enough yet.


GravatarFornicating Christian? Do tell! I don't know this about C.S. Lewis! All I know is that you find numerous books of his at that Catholic bookstore run by that nutjob who converted Bob Novak.


Gravatarnick carraway: Jeffraham: gonna have to lose quite a few brain cells to 'go wingnut'...

I have an icepick, if that'll help.
.


GravatarI can think of one especially really cool place in Baltimore!!!

Vixen...I am the High Priestess of Selune...dig?


GravatarDavid Lee Roth, shit. Try Louis Prima, who also wrote Jump Jive and Wail.
Smitty W., tea faerie


Prima didn't write it. And Louis Armstrong recorded it long before Prima, whose only real achievement was giving work to Pee Wee Russell (IMHO).


Gravataractually, i can't think of any cool places in baltimore, come to think of it that's why i left. on the other hand i do miss maryland.
charley | 12.10.05 - 11:06 pm | #

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there isn't anywhere in baltimore that is cool. that isn't what i meant. if you stay in one spot long enough, though, you will find yourself engaged in a conversation with a fairly interesting lunatic. that's all i'm saying.


GravatarJeffraham: gonna have to lose quite a few brain cells to 'go wingnut'...
nick carraway

So Hillary and Holy Joe are retarded now?
Is it an air quality issue in Dc, or just head banging?


GravatarLouis Jordan? Monica_A

Bubsy Meyers.


Gravatarhow does one best prepare 30 week fetus for Fitzmas

idiots your "fitzmiss" is over...all that was found out while wasting millions of taxpaying dollars was some charge about not getting the story straight with the grand jury...Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhh


Gravatar Hey Feral! Hey Vixen! What it is?

On Dasher, on Dancer, on Feral, on Vixen, on Comet, on Cupid, on Donner, on
Blitzen...


GravatarYou should all go to jail for doing drugs -Moran Troll

I want to take you higher.
Boom shaka-laka-laka Boom shaka-laka-laka
Monica_A


Puff the magic Dragon lived by the sea...


GravatarWhat's the use of getting sober when you're gonna get drunk again?

I, myself, often ponder this very question.


Gravatarmeth, crack, crank, arabs, homos, commies, bird flu, identity theft...


be scared!


GravatarLewis was Anglican, Tolkien was Catholic. It shows it the respective works.


Gravatar"actually, i can't think of any cool places in baltimore,"

Hannibal Lector was from Baltimore so at least the food must be good.





MYOB'
.


GravatarLouis Jordan?
Monica_A


Correct. Who also observed that "You've got to go when the wagon comes."


GravatarYOU ARE ALL FUCKING MORONS AND FRENCH LOVING FUCKS! ALL YOU DO IS WHINE AND BITCH ABOUT STUFF AND NEVER DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT...EVEN IF YOU PLEAD ON YOUR HANDS AND KNESS YOU WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED IN THE WINNING PARTY
Long Dong Silver

Hands and KNESS????????

This dumb mother fucker is drunk off his ass.

Just like his preznit.


Gravatarmellow lounge rendition of "Institutionalized". Eli

All I wanted was a Dr. Pepper, and she wouldn't give it to me.


Gravataridiots your "fitzmiss" is over...all that was found out while wasting millions of taxpaying dollars was some charge about not getting the story straight with the grand jury...Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

So a million bucks is 'millions', obstructing justice is 'not a big deal' and an ongoing investigation is 'over'. Learn something new every day.


GravatarFangio, MY BABY DONE LEFT ME(and I feel like homemade shit?)


GravatarJen, Dig.


GravatarEschaCon II in Chicago

Is this a lock?

Monica A, yes Louis Jordan.


GravatarAnd now I'm really leaving.


GravatarSave some Xtian baby blood for me...
NTodd


Sorry. Drank it all.

Went very well with my escargot and frog legs!


GravatarWahhhhhhhhhhhhhh - Moran Troll

You run your mouth, and I'll run my business brother.


GravatarAll I wanted was a Dr. Pepper, and she wouldn't give it to me.

Nearly drove off the road when Eli played that for me.


Gravatar David Lee Roth, shit. Try Louis Prima, who also wrote Jump Jive and Wail.

Oh, so he was that guy from Foreigner?


Gravatarnah... 'going wingnut' isn't the same thing as 'trying desperately to figure out which way the wind is blowing' and/or 'split personality'.


GravatarWhat's the use of getting sober when you're gonna get drunk again?

I, myself, often ponder this very question.
Hecate Malificent


moi, aussi.

Wish I had some wine tonight...but alas, sober as a pancake.


GravatarIf Eschacon is in Chi-town, I will be there.

(Still say we should all make reservations for Second City: I cannot even imagine.)


GravatarALL YOU DO IS WHINE AND BITCH


Who's whining and bitching.


(puts index finger to head and twirls it around)


Gravataridiots your "fitzmiss" is over...all that was found out while wasting millions of taxpaying dollars was some charge about not getting the story straight with the grand jury...Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhh


As opposed to the Starr investigation which produced nothing and cost ....

Aw, shit. It's too easy. Like shooting fish in a barrell. We used to have REAL trolls.


GravatarOh yeah...Narnia was awesome!

I cried

But that witch was a nappy headed biotch!
Probably a republican hop headed hoe!


GravatarFangio, MY BABY DONE LEFT ME(and I feel like homemade shit?)
DWD - Listener in the Snow

How about Nothing?
Monday Nothing
Tuesday Nothing
Wednesday Nothing
Thursday Nothing
Friday come around a little more nothing
Saturday and Sunday nothing
Nothing Nothing Nothing.....


GravatarCourse, maybe you wanted to have a party in DC w/o me. That's ok. I don't mind.?


They always have parties without me too.


I guess I need to move or sumpin.


GravatarWhat's the use of getting sober when you're gonna get drunk again?

i try simply to STAY stoned...that way i avoid that 'again' stuff...


Gravatarthe wonderful thing about fitzmas is that the more the trolls deny, the bigger the indictment pie.


Gravatar"YOU ARE ALL FUCKING MORONS AND FRENCH LOVING FUCKS! ALL YOU DO IS WHINE AND BITCH ABOUT STUFF AND NEVER DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT...EVEN IF YOU PLEAD ON YOUR HANDS AND KNESS YOU WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED IN THE WINNING PARTY"
Long Dong Silver

I've met quite a few models from France and they are all hot! So yes. If I wasn't married I might call myself a french loving fuck!
But at least I'd be getting laid!
Jeesh!

MYOB'
.


GravatarAll I wanted was a Dr. Pepper, and she wouldn't give it to me.

And I take my time, and I try real hard...


Gravatarbaltimore has the highest grade of streetcorner lunatic of any city i have ever been to. new york has more of them, but they are tedious. new orleans has more interesting ones, but most of them aren't real lunatics. they are just scam artists posing as streecorner lunatics.


GravatarOh, MLA is the massive gathering of all English departments from across the land. There are panels, speeches, cotillions, drug deals, shootouts, and the Marxist Cash Bar.

...and now, the oral sex.

Seriously, though, I'm passing on MLA this year, after going for the first time last year. Being around 10,000 stressed and depressed EngLit students when I'm on deadline for my MS will not be useful.


Gravatar"the wonderful thing about fitzmas is that the more the trolls deny, the bigger the indictment pie."
smarty jones | 12.10.05 - 11:17 pm | #


BINGO!


MYOB'
.


GravatarYou run your mouth, and I'll run my business brother.
JeffCO


You done hoodooed the hoodoo man!


GravatarEvening all.

now for something really important.

I have some Alaskan King Crab in my fridge, and I need something to do with the leftovers.

I have enough for probably two or three sandwiches.

Ideas?


GravatarAs opposed to the Starr investigation which produced nothing and cost ....

Aw, shit. It's too easy. Like shooting fish in a barrell. We used to have REAL trolls.
Hecate Malificent

I'm sorry it produced the image of Bill lighting up a cigar,wet with Monica's pussy juice, in front of Hillary.
That alone is a whole fucking movie in itself.
I'm surprised no one has picked up on the dysfunctional dynamics of that act of brazen insolence.


Gravatarthe wonderful thing about fitzmas is that the more the trolls deny, the bigger the indictment pie.
smarty jones


The indictments are what's making them so nuts.


GravatarYou Clinton lovin commies! What did he do for this country beside lie and cheat on his wife. And Herr Hillary will not stand a chance in 2008


GravatarYou don't know about the giant DC cattle drive?
Thers

The historians will be invading Philadelphia on January 5th for their own cattle drive.

The trolls can ask them about the Jefferson bible.


Gravatar>The Third Man just on TCM. What a great movie! I love Joseph Cotten.

It's the score that makes that movie. And it's worth renting the Criterion DVD just to watch the brief period doc. about Anton Karas, the Zither composer. In fact, even though Cotten and Carol Reed are freaking geniuses, it is the zither in The Third Man that will have you in a dither.

The Third Man soundtrack:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product...duct/ B00006J9M2


GravatarActually, and again seriously, when the MLA went to Toronto, the prostitutes' union complained that unlike, um, business conventions, the MLA crowd were the worst of both worlds: kinky, and bad tippers.

I can so believe it.


GravatarWitch was cool, but, as in the books, there's no motivation for her evil.


Yeah. I prefer my evil to be motivated.


GravatarOn Dasher, on Dancer, on Feral, on Vixen

NTodd, it ain't happenin'...


GravatarFangio | 12.10.05 - 11:19 pm | #



Nice try, asshole.

But some troll posted this bullshit, word for word, a couple of weeks ago.

The reason I remember it is because it's so disgusting and so stupid on so many levels.

When are you trolls gonna learn new tunes????


GravatarBTW...did I mention Baltimore has been rockin' my world all weekend! So there!


GravatarJen, High Priestess of Wherever ~

I'm letting your boy in. He seems to consume mass quantities of the chemical H2O.


GravatarI'm surprised no one has picked up on the dysfunctional dynamics of that act of brazen insolence.
Fangio


Jesus H. Christ, there are some lunatics running around this country.

Yeah, poor Hillary...the terrorist-loving lesbian murderer of Vince Foster, and the most dangerous woman in America. We're weeping crocodile tears right along with you, pal.


GravatarYou Clinton lovin commies! What did he do for this country beside lie and cheat on his wife. And Herr Hillary will not stand a chance in 2008
Long DONG Silver



Awwww, go sleep it off, asshole!


GravatarYou Clinton lovin commies! What did he do for this country beside lie and cheat on his wife. And Herr Hillary will not stand a chance in 2008
Long John Silver

He made people feel good while he was picking their pocket. Bush scares you while he rummages through your whole house.


GravatarPioneering Comedian Richard Pryor Dies

By JEREMIAH MARQUEZ
The Associated Press
Saturday, December 10, 2005; 10:37 PM

LOS ANGELES -- Richard Pryor, the groundbreaking comedian whose profanely personal insights into race relations and modern life made him one of Hollywood's biggest stars, died of a heart attack Saturday. He was 65.

Pryor died after being taken to a hospital from his home in the San Fernando Valley, said his business manager, Karen Finch. He had been ill for years with multiple sclerosis, a degenerative disease of the nervous system.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp...1000740_pf.html


GravatarI am pretty depressed tonight that I live in Austin.


I hates it here.


GravatarIdeas?
David (Austin Tx)

yeah. my tabby says, "Hand it over, bitch!"


GravatarCourse, maybe you wanted to have a party in DC w/o me. That's ok. I don't mind.?


They always have parties without me too.


I guess I need to move or sumpin.
four legs good


Hell, I just offered to hang out with her, and received only silence!

I shall take my rejection and retire.


GravatarWHY do the trools assume we are for Hillary?


(Scratches head in wonderment at stupidity of wingers)


GravatarI'm surprised no one has picked up on the dysfunctional dynamics of that act of brazen insolence.
Fangio

Jesus H. Christ, there are some lunatics running around this country.

Yeah, poor Hillary...the terrorist-loving lesbian murderer of Vince Foster, and the most dangerous woman in America. We're weeping crocodile tears right along with you, pal.
Phila

It was in the testimony. No one could make that shit up. Look it up.


GravatarWHY do the trools assume we are for Hillary?


(Scratches head in wonderment at stupidity of wingers)
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat

I think because a Dyke once claimed Hillary was fuckable.


GravatarYou Clinton lovin commies! What did he do for this country beside lie and cheat on his wife. And Herr Hillary will not stand a chance in 2008
Long DONG Silver

He made people feel good while he was picking their pocket. Bush scares you while he rummages through your whole house.
Fangio | 12.10.05 - 11:22 pm | #



Oh, why don't you BOTH go fuck off and die????

The wingers' Clinton obsession is really sick!


GravatarYeah. I prefer my evil to be motivated.
four legs good- 11:20 pm


den you gotsa be in hawg hebben in Bushwa, USA


GravatarI am pretty depressed tonight that I live in Austin.


I hates it here.
four legs good


I live here too. It ain't so bad.


GravatarI think because a Dyke once claimed Hillary was fuckable.
Fangio



Doesn't even make sense.


GravatarI live here too. It ain't so bad.


It's in Texas.


GravatarIt was in the testimony. No one could make that shit up. Look it up.
Fangio


You're missing the point. I'm not saying it didn't happen, I'm saying I don't give a shit about either one of their sex lives. And I'm also saying it's silly for a wingnut to try to portray Hillary as someone deserving of sympathy, when the right's been demonizing her as a murderer and a lesbian and an adulteress for over a decade now.

Dumbshit.


GravatarIt was in the testimony. No one could make that shit up. Look it up.
Fangio | 12.10.05 - 11:22 pm | #


Isn't amazing that no one was talking about Hillary, but this asshole comes on with a stupid post about a cigar, etc?

How trolls love to disrupt!


GravatarSeeing all the fundies in the movie theatre tonight just depressed me.


GravatarI think because a Dyke once claimed Hillary was fuckable.
Fangio


Heh. Why'd you capitalize "dyke"? Is Dyke your goddess?


Gravatar What did he do for this country beside lie and cheat on his wife

Let's see...Dow over 2000, low unemployment, no American soldiers killed in foreign wars...Yeah, a total loser.


Gravatarwhen the MLA went to Toronto, the prostitutes' union complained that unlike, um, business conventions, the MLA crowd were the worst of both worlds: kinky, and bad tippers.

But well-groomed!


GravatarWHY do the trools assume we are for Hillary?

especially when we've been trashing her for days on end.


GravatarWe're thinking of giving the kids heroin for Christmas. They make the cutest little Bill O'Reilly syringes

I wouldn't give them weed, though. They're too young to use matches.


GravatarHe made people feel good while he was picking their pocket. Bush scares you while he rummages through your whole house.
Fangio - 11:22 pm


opted for asshole, eh?

rather thought you would.

.


Gravataridiots your "fitzmiss" is over...all that was found out while wasting millions of taxpaying dollars was some charge about not getting the story straight with the grand jury

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANS.../09/ ldt.01.html

DOBBS: ...Compared to Kenneth Starr's Whitewater investigation, Fitzgerald's probe has lasted almost two years and has cost U.S. taxpayers less than $800,000. The Whitewater probe, which lasted a total of six years, cost taxpayers more than $52 million."

(and i would add, given you trolls endless wanking material to work over.)


GravatarEverytime we have a nice thread, some troll has to come in and shit the punchbowl.


GravatarAnd we all left out the mmost important part of tonight's dinner. Watertiger's magnificant pies. I had the banana cream. To die for. Not too sweet, a touch of ligueur. Absolutely fabulous. Others had the pecan. And scoffed it down in seconds.

And that's enough for me.

Night moonbats.


GravatarBut well-groomed!
Thers


Heh, yeah right.

I'm actually rather pissed at the MLA for moving their conference away from NO for 2006...


Gravatar4lG ~

I have been depressed, myself, over the last 8 months. I had a really rough week ~ I was hurt, and conversely, I hurt someone. I'm sorry it happened.

I'm going to see a life coach. I've led a productive life, just having a bad year, and I know that it can be better than this...

I refuse to take anti-depressants. They fuck up my physical presence. I plan to work out of this funk from a natural perspective.

If anyone has any suggestions for positive life changes and how to go about attaining success, e-mail me or share here on the blog. I'm all ears.


Gravataridiots your "fitzmiss" is over...



yada yada yada


Dream on, asshole!


Gravataraiight, i'm off to sleep.

good night, you brave secateurs of wisdom!

(god knows, there seems to be a wealth of deadwood in need of pruning here tonite.)


GravatarAnd we all left out the mmost important part of tonight's dinner. Watertiger's magnificant pies. I had the banana cream. To die for. Not too sweet, a touch of ligueur. Absolutely fabulous. Others had the pecan. And scoffed it down in seconds.

You had pie? no fair.


GravatarThe Whitewater probe, which lasted a total of six years, cost taxpayers more than $52 million."



And zero indictments.


GravatarI am pretty depressed tonight that I live in Austin.


I hates it here.
four legs good

I live here too. It ain't so bad.
rorschach


Oh yeah. There are far worse places to live than Austin, despite it being in Texas.



to, smarty jones,

You can tell your cat, for me, that if he doesn't give up a good crab salad sandwich recipe, then I won't give him even the bits that drop on the floor.


Gravatarhttp://64.233.161.104/search?q=c...d+hillary& hl=en
and Clinton penetrating Lewinsky vaginally with a cigar which he continued to smoke afterwards. Asked how she tasted, Bill replied, "Like chicken."

From the GTA Hot Coffee comments
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=c...d+hillary& hl=en
But thank god we have Senators like Hillary! to protect us from pixellated intercourse. In her letter to the Federal Trade Commission, Hillary stated: "We should all be deeply disturbed that a game which now permits the simulation of lewd sexual acts in an interactive format with highly realistic graphics has fallen into the hands of young people across the country." Well, thank you so much for joining the ranks of the same sexual McCarthyites who brought your husband's sexual proclivities to the entire world. Evidently simulated video game sex is more difficult for kids to handle than actual sexual activity involving the President of the United States with an intern and a cigar.

There should have been a quote running alongside this story that said: "No one should be disburbed that my husband lied about inserting a cigar into his intern and then smoked it while referencing the taste and later stained a blue dress with his semen." Which is essentially the argument Hillary was making in 1998.


GravatarWhat is really amazing is that I control the debate here...I bring up one comment and you libs spend the rest of your time posting comments about my comment...that is why you will always lose...you are all reactionary...learn to control the talk and you might have a chance...if you don't belive me then go back over all the comments I've made tonight and then the comments that followed...


GravatarBush scares you while he rummages through your whole house.
Fangio



Prince Fuckwit doesn't scare me.

I have nothing but contempt for him!


GravatarThers, I woulds imagine theys all speaks pretty well English also. Yous know?


GravatarGood night to all and to all a good night.


GravatarHey, Vicki, I'm always glad to read the Tarot for you if you'd like.


GravatarLong John Silver

libs perhaps tend to like to discuss things, not just make pronouncements. Maybe you would benefit from trying it. Maybe not.

Not everything is about one-ups-manship. Cooperation has a lot to recommend it.


GravatarFitzy gonna cockpunch Rover right in the goat rope.

Hey, Baltimore at least brought us Edith Massey.

Why is Baltimore abrieviated Balto, anyway? Should be Balti.


GravatarI'm going to see a life coach. I've led a productive life, just having a bad year, and I know that it can be better than this...

I refuse to take anti-depressants. They fuck up my physical presence. I plan to work out of this funk from a natural perspective.

If anyone has any suggestions for positive life changes and how to go about attaining success, e-mail me or share here on the blog. I'm all ears.
Vicki

That Life Coach really fucked up the kid on Nip/Tuck.
Know what try Qigong. Or Tai Chi.
Both work by reconnecting you to your body. Like Alexander technique and those other mind/body things.


GravatarHecate, I'd like! I'll send you my info.

Thanks!


Gravatarif you don't belive me



belive???????


Go blow a goat, troll!


GravatarI'm actually rather pissed at the MLA for moving their conference away from NO for 2006...
rorschach | Homepage | 12.10.05 - 11:27 pm | #

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new orleans no longer exists. that's probably why they moved it.


Gravatar4lG ~

I have been depressed, myself, over the last 8 months. I had a really rough week ~ I was hurt, and conversely, I hurt someone. I'm sorry it happened.


Vicki--

Keep in mind that you rock.

I have no advice to offer, as my own route to recovery involve all kinds o' craziness...

But you rock.


GravatarHa you all know I'm right don't you? Does it hurt to know I control your talking points?


GravatarVicki -- My best advice is to remember that you're just human, and not everything is fixable (and a lot of what is fixable may not be fixed by you). Forgiveness of others as well as one's self is also invaluable.
.


GravatarVicki,

No prob. Will read for you in the am.


GravatarYou can tell your cat, for me, that if he doesn't give up a good crab salad sandwich recipe, then I won't give him even the bits that drop on the floor.
David (Austin Tx)

her reply is "bring it on!" (she is sharpening her claws and looking up Austin on yahoo maps.)


GravatarPrince Fuckwit doesn't scare me.

I have nothing but contempt for him!
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat

He is that evil fucking drunk that lives at the end of the street. Sure he is tolerable and reptilian friendly during the day.
But night comes along and has a couple of beers in him he starts yelling and playing the Hank Williams jr REALLY goddamned loud. Then he starts with the pot shots at the empty soldiers.
The neighbors can't complain because he is tight with the cops.


Gravatarnew orleans no longer exists.

Bullshit.


GravatarWhy is Baltimore abrieviated Balto, anyway? Should be Balti.
French Fried Fred. | 12.10.05 - 11:31 pm | #

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it's actually abbreviated b-more, if you live there.


GravatarI think because a Dyke once claimed Hillary was fuckable.
Fangio

Heh. Why'd you capitalize "dyke"? Is Dyke your goddess?
rorschach


Why, ALL liberal women are dykes, don't you know?
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What did he do for this country beside lie and cheat on his wife

Let's see...Dow over 2000, low unemployment, no American soldiers killed in foreign wars...Yeah, a total loser.
FeralLiberal


With a stroke of the pen, he did away with all of the REPUKES' attempts to reduce women to baby machines.

Which Prince Fuckwit and his Ass Clown Posse is trying their best to do right now!


GravatarHa you all know I'm right don't you? Does it hurt to know I control your talking points?
Long John Silver



He's Gordon!


Gravatar(It is best, btw, to pay no attention to Fangio. Just a bit of advice.)


GravatarWell shit. My wife got all pissed off at me because I got drunk and wanted to watch the Two Towers on TNT. I gave in and now she has some piece of shit on with Meryl Streep and Kevin Bacon floating around on some river on rafts.

How did I come to be so emasculated?


GravatarThat Life Coach really fucked up the kid on Nip/Tuck.

Goddess guard us.


Gravatar Thers, I woulds imagine theys all speaks pretty well English also. Yous know?

It's all about the jouissance! And the phallic signifier.


GravatarVicki -- My best advice is to remember that you're just human, and not everything is fixable (and a lot of what is fixable may not be fixed by you). Forgiveness of others as well as one's self is also invaluable.
.
Jeffraham Prestonian

Fuck that forgiveness shit. Except the fact that people do things that piss you off. It's part of nature.
Except your flaws. Spend a lot of time naked. Sitting, laying in bed watching tv.
Nothing makes someone feel better about themselves than a few months of nudity.
You start accepting who you really are.
Embrace your flaws and anger. Once you start denying they exist then you start feeling guilty about the way you feel.


Gravatar(It is best, btw, to pay no attention to Fangio. Just a bit of advice.)

Wondering if Ted has a new strategy...


GravatarHecate...You ever read "Meditations on the Tarot: A journey Into Christain Hermeticism" by Anonymous?


Gravatarnew orleans no longer exists.

Bullshit.
rorschach | Homepage | 12.10.05 - 11:34 pm | #

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new orleans as a convention site does not exist. of course new orleans exists. but convention sites and cities are different things.


GravatarWhat's the use of getting sober when you're gonna get drunk again?

Well, the liquor store won't sell ya any more if you're drunk, so ya have to sober up to buy more.

Stupid thing liquor stores, if ya are using their product, they won't sell ya their product.


GravatarThat Life Coach really fucked up the kid on Nip/Tuck.

Goddess guard us.
Hecate Malificent |

Happy smiling cloud being?
Kid went all Nazi now after getting blown by that tranny.
Of course he beat the shit out of the tranny who turned up with a tranny posse to deliver a major ass whooping and then gang urination.
God I love that show.


GravatarVicki, if I had advice, I'd give it... come to NYC after X-Mas, and we'll party, maybe?


GravatarHow did I come to be so emasculated?
hontlia |


Why would you WANT to watch something about the two towers?

How depressing!


Gravatar(It is best, btw, to pay no attention to Fangio. Just a bit of advice.)
rorschach

To each his own.
republicans aren't the only ones with narrow minds.
Dig it baby?


GravatarFunny how trools believe they 'control' the discourse

absurd on the face, when even scant observation would reveal their influence to be, on average, far less than that of the current state of NTodd's pants or holden's ponies...


Gravatar"...a few months of nudity."

Not in the northern climates- skeeters in the summer, frostbite in the winter are *not* gonna help someone feel better about themselves. Just don't see it happening.


GravatarStupid thing liquor stores, if ya are using their product, they won't sell ya their product.
Barry from Alaska

Bet you didn't watch the last Boondocks.


GravatarI woulds imagine theys all speaks pretty well English also. Yous know?



I'll bet they speak better English than Chimpy does.


GravatarThers, I woulds imagine theys all speaks pretty well English also. Yous know?

It's all about the jouissance! And the phallic signifier.
Thers


As though your babble with make a differance! You and your ilk will vanish without a trace.

Olaf--

Perhaps largely because of the lack of capital investment, such as conventions coming to town? Perhaps the MLA could invest some of its resources and make it work there, living up to its liberal ideology?


GravatarIt's all about the jouissance! And the phallic signifier.
Thers | Email | Homepage | 12.10.05 - 11:36 pm

Lacan can't save you liberals!


GravatarVicki,

Anyone who can dance like there is no tomorrow has too big of a heart to be down for long.


GravatarRor, did you see that stuff about the wingnut congressroaches who wanted to impose a "morality" test for Katrina reconstruction? No federal money for you if you ran a liquor store, or oddly, suntanning salon?


GravatarIt is indeed a small world. Check this out.

Very rarely do I actually know (well, within 1 degree of separation) someone who makes big splashy news. Much less big splashy news all across the 'net and in the NY Times.

Mr. Daniel Brandt (of Google Watch and Namebase fame) caught the guy who wrote that bad thing about Mr. Seigenthaler in a Wikipedia article. That bad thing has caused a chorus of wailers to come forth, rending their garments and gnashing their teeth about the deplorable state of editing and fact-checking on the free and open Internets. I might add that Mr. Brandt hisself has been victim to a bad thing written on the Wikipedia, prompting him to create a two page web site called Wikipedia Watch.

How am I connected to Mr. Brandt? I'd tell you, but then I'd have to kill you. Seriously. It's like a librarian-patron confidentiality thing.


Gravatar"...a few months of nudity."

Not in the northern climates- skeeters in the summer, frostbite in the winter are *not* gonna help someone feel better about themselves. Just don't see it happening.
nick carraway

Winters the best time for house naked. You sleep better in the cold. Also you get less disease.
The japanese take the kids out in the cold everyday. Also they do that whole Polar bear type thing.
It works.


GravatarDig it baby?
Fangio | 12.10.05 - 11:39 pm | #


Um.

Yeah, sugar.


Gravatar
Bet you didn't watch the last Boondocks.
Fangio


You really must stop mumbling. You know I can't understand you when you mumble.


Gravatarthere isn't anywhere in baltimore that is cool. that isn't what i meant. if you stay in one spot long enough, though, you will find yourself engaged in a conversation with a fairly interesting lunatic. that's all i'm saying.

well, that is true. little italy not so cool, johns hopkins is cool, but it's not like they let the likes of me in there. but i do miss the country side. everything is flat in fla. at least we have water.

and now in the spirit of christmas a rousing round of O, Tannenbaum O, Tannenbaum...


GravatarI slept with three guys one night at a Romanian Discotech. Those East Euro men are hunks.


GravatarRor, and I agree, the MLA should at least have it in NO next year.


GravatarVicki, call the Brother's at Gethsemani Abbey in Kentucky and make a weekend treat. They will not proselytize you, indeed, even talk to you unless you seek them out...Silence is what you need. You don't need anybody but yourself and God, whatever the form he might take for you.


GravatarI'll never be able to travel with Jen and Nim again.

Between the three of us, we have 7 animals...someone is going to have to stay home and be the zookeeper!


GravatarGod I love that show.
Fangio - 11:38 pm


a fan of vicarious bukkake?
somehow i'm not surprised...

does your asshole gape enough to admit a maserati?

btw, shitwhistle: you disgrace and defame the moniker you've chosen.


GravatarIt's all about the jouissance! And the phallic signifier.
Thers | Email | Homepage | 12.10.05 - 11:36 pm

Lacan can't save you liberals!
Long John Silver


Look!

It's trying to think!


GravatarBet you didn't watch the last Boondocks.
Fangio

You really must stop mumbling. You know I can't understand you when you mumble.
Barry from Alaska

So my big negro lips mean I mumble?
Damn I'll share that with the Moms.


GravatarI slept with three guys one night at a Romanian Discotech. Those East Euro men are hunks.
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat


Oh, now the asshole is going to name steal.


GravatarVicki, what both rorschach and Jeffraham said.

Take care - I empathize, have been there, probably will be again, but at least I know I don;t have to live there permanently.

Best,
SD


GravatarGod I love that show.
Fangio - 11:38 pm

a fan of vicarious bukkake?
somehow i'm not surprised...

does your asshole gape enough to admit a maserati?

btw, shitwhistle: you disgrace and defame the moniker you've chosen.
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar(aka

Blah blah blah
Dull fuck aren't you?


GravatarDamn I'll share that with the Moms.
Fangio


Once again, you really shouldn't mumble, 'cause it's really starting to bum me out!


GravatarMaybe the reason the evil isn't comprehensible is that the witch character was payback for Lewis. I read an odd book a while back called the Natural History of Make Believe whose author claimed that the witch was based on a woman philosopher who kicked Lewis' ass in a debate.


GravatarI slept with three guys one night at a Romanian Discotech. Those East Euro men are hunks.
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat -11:42 pm


with all that nappin' didja have time for any sex?


GravatarLong John Silver?

I have to wonder how hung you are. You have an IM?


GravatarI'm smarter tha ll of you


GravatarThers, I may have to do that. Especially if NTodd is there with no pants on.


GravatarOlaf--

Perhaps largely because of the lack of capital investment, such as conventions coming to town? Perhaps the MLA could invest some of its resources and make it work there, living up to its liberal ideology?
rorschach | Homepage | 12.10.05 - 11:40 pm | #

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that would be great. i'm just saying that new orleans' ability to host even a small convention is extremely low right now. and probably will be in 2006 also.


GravatarDamn I'll share that with the Moms.
Fangio

Once again, you really shouldn't mumble, 'cause it's really starting to bum me out!
Barry from Alaska

I can't help it you are stupid.


GravatarLong John Silver?

I have to wonder how hung you are. You have an IM?
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat


Not me, either.

Stupidity does NOTHING for me!


GravatarGood evening everyone. Any room at the inn?


GravatarBarry from Alaska,
You want your mouth fucked? I'll arrange it.

I'll strecth your lips to the point of tearing, you mealy mouthed batard.


GravatarStupidity does NOTHING for me!
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat

Barry gets it again.
Harpooned baby harpooned.


GravatarO'Reilly's complaining that Tannenbaum is a Jewish name.


GravatarGood evening everyone. Any room at the inn?
mena | Email | 12.10.05 - 11:46 pm | #

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Barry from Alaska,
You want your mouth fucked? I'll arrange it.

I'll strecth your lips to the point of tearing, you mealy mouthed batard.
Fangio | 12.10.05 - 11:46 pm | #

==


On the other hand....


GravatarI'm smarter tha ll of you
Long John Silver


Interesting that the letters left out here spell:

Na.


GravatarMena, there's always a stable in Bethlehem for you, sweetie.


GravatarO'Reilly's complaining that Tannenbaum is a Jewish name.
French Fried Fred.

Pines must piss him off, or would it be firs?


GravatarThe post about the Romanian Discotech is a from a namestealer. I hope you all realize that.

I have had relations though with a few East Bloc men.


GravatarO'Reilly's complaining that Tannenbaum is a Jewish name.
French Fried Fred


Fred, no.

That's FREEDOM Fried.

You'll have the trools calling you unAmerican and a Saddamist.


GravatarBarry from Alaska,
You want your mouth fucked? I'll arrange it.

I'll strecth your lips to the point of tearing, you mealy mouthed batard.
Fangio | 12.10.05 - 11:46 pm | #

==


On the other hand....
mena |

Wasn't me.
Must be Barry.


GravatarMumbler!


GravatarHello dear Vicki. I gather from scanning the threads that I'm not the only person here tonight with the blues. There is some comfort in numbers, eh?


GravatarNot the Twin Towers in New York, The Two Towers in The Tolkien Novel.

Still drinken


GravatarThe post about the Romanian Discotech is a from a namestealer. I hope you all realize that.

I have had relations though with a few East Bloc men.
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat


Name stealer.


GravatarSo much for Republicans being "the party of ideas."

Some of you have heard me bitch about the SinceSlicedBread site. Now that idea submissions are shut down, I've been reviewing quite a few of the ideas posted.

Here's what I've found: outside of a few snarky "impeach Bush" posts, ideas submitted by liberals/progressives (identifiable by their presumption that things are getting tougher for working people), while quite often unworkable or not particularly well-thought out, typically don't rant about conservatives. The focus was on identifying a real problem, and while the proposed solution may not be great, the authors used their 175 words not to attack but to describe and try to solve problems.

Here's how that compares to conservative postings (identifiable usually by their partisan ranting, also identifiable due to assumptions such as poor people deserve to be poor, rich people deserve a free ride, etc): Out of thousands (over 22,000) ideas posted to the site, I have yet to see a single one posted by a conservative that was in any way original. Most were premised on right wing wedge issues. A remarkable number of these people are concerned that welfare queens are livin' large on their dime, apparently unaware that there was major welfare reform passed almost 10 years ago. Another large group of unoriginal idea postings concern a flat tax. Lots more argue that there should be no inheiritance tax. A big block were for privatizing everything from the schools to the post office to prisons. Then there were the "Make Jesus Lord of America" entries, and last but not least, the entries by Freepers, who didn't even try to posit a problem or a solution, but just posted harangues about how anyone who questions the war or the president is an unpatriotic traitor. Also a lot of freeping going on in the reviews of ideas.

There are several ways to interpret these observations: 1) the daily doses of Limbaugh and O'Reilly have turned these people into zombies incapable of independent thought; 2) these people are Republicans because they're incapable of independent thought in the first place; 3) either way, they always have to go back to what they know - derision and insults - because they know they can't fight on any other ground. Most of all, I think it underscores the why of the decline of this country - creative thinking or even independent thinking isn't practiced by a lot of people, and is distrusted and scorned by the very people who aren't smart enough to engage in it, who then bully their way into the mix, leaving a turd in the punchbowl as they hijack the bus to their own ends.

At least they have a panel of judges that will toss them out; otherwise they'd freep the voting to make sure some undeserving or ill-conceived thought got the prize - just like they do in government!

Of course, this is all much like saying water is wet or clueless people are clueless because they have no clu

What say you perfesional sykiatrists?


GravatarAnyone who can dance like there is no tomorrow has too big of a heart to be down for long.
FeralLiberal


I have always been known as an optimistic, positive person.

For a handful of reasons, this year has gotten the better of me. I am actively seeking ways to make sure that I have the better of 2006.


GravatarNot the Twin Towers in New York, The Two Towers in The Tolkien Novel.

hontlia


Not much better!


GravatarO'Reilly's complaining that Tannenbaum is a Jewish name.
French Fried Fred. | 12.10.05 - 11:47 pm | #
**************

tannenbaum is actually a fine old maryland name, featured in the state song- oh maryland, my maryland, how evergreen your branches. i forget the rest. i'm pretty sure there's a tannenbaum in there somewhere though. or maybe not.


Gravatarbambi strikes back:

Hunter Dangles Upside Down for 8 Hours

By Associated Press
Published December 10, 2005, 6:44 AM CST


MOUNT HOLLY, Ark. -- A hunter suffered hypothermia and kidney damage after becoming entangled in his deer stand and dangling upside down 30 feet above the ground in sleet for 8 1/2 hours.

Raybon E. Upton was hunting by himself Wednesday when his ankle became caught on the deer stand and he slipped. He was trapped there until about midnight when rescuers called by his wife were finally able to free him.


GravatarThe post about the Romanian Discotech is a from a namestealer. I hope you all realize that.

I have had relations though with a few East Bloc men.
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat


Name stealer.
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat

Another name stealer.


GravatarI'll strecth your lips to the point of tearing, you mealy mouthed batard.
Fangio-11:46 pm


from 'resembling reasonable' to 'utter asshole' in less than three hours...

not even a record...been done better

fuckin' loser


GravatarMena, word.


Gravatarbkny - the hunter story would be perfect if only something had come along and nibbled on him a little.


GravatarI had great grades in college.

Time spent on my knees for the professors was time not spent studying like the others.

Dollar for doughnut, my spent was used far more efficiently.


Gravatarbambi strikes back:

Hunter Dangles Upside Down for 8 Hours

By Associated Press
Published December 10, 2005, 6:44 AM CST


MOUNT HOLLY, Ark. -- A hunter suffered hypothermia and kidney damage after becoming entangled in his deer stand and dangling upside down 30 feet above the ground in sleet for 8 1/2 hours.



Shame it wasn't Ted Nugent!


GravatarHey mena,

Sorry to hear that two of my favorite ladies are feeling down...


Gravatarfuckin' loser... and he mumbles too, can't understand a thing he is saying.


GravatarI had great grades in college.

Time spent on my knees for the professors was time not spent studying like the others.

Dollar for doughnut, my spent was used far more efficiently.
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat


Name stealer again.

Chickenshit mother fucker hasn't the guts to use his own name.


GravatarI'll strecth your lips to the point of tearing, you mealy mouthed batard.
Fangio-11:46 pm

from 'resembling reasonable' to 'utter asshole' in less than three hours...

not even a record...been done better

fuckin' loser
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar

Woody's probably touching himself now.


GravatarFor a handful of reasons, this year has gotten the better of me. I am actively seeking ways to make sure that I have the better of 2006.
Vicki

Have you ever read any Alan Watts?
People seek security in an ever changing world.
or
There was a king who called his wise men together. he asked them to come up with something that made him happy when sad and sad when happy.
His wise men returned with a single sentence written.
"All things must pass".


GravatarShame it wasn't Ted Nugent!
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat


Mt. Holly, AR is too cold for the Nuge.

He has to be killing bambis in Michigan...


Gravatar"Time spent on my knees for the professors was time not spent studying like the others."



Troll with an "all women are whores" attitude.

What a surprise!


Gravatarfrom 'resembling reasonable' to 'utter asshole' in less than three hours...

It *is* Ted!


GravatarI had great grades in college.

Time spent on my knees for the professors was time not spent studying like the others.

Dollar for doughnut, my spent was used far more efficiently.
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat


Name stealer again.

Chickenshit mother fucker hasn't the guts to use his own name.
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat

I didn't type either of those. There are TWO name stealers out there. Fucking cowards.


GravatarHey folks.

I see everyone else that was with us got home before me.

:sigh:

Had a good time.
Had good food.

Loved meeting and seeing folks from here.

We should do so more often.


GravatarHi Feral. I'll probably live, just a little lonesome and blue. I was going to say cold, too, until I remembered where you are. Are you sipping a lovely sauterne, or someething mulled?


GravatarI didn't type either of those. There are TWO name stealers out there. Fucking cowards.
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat


The second one WAS mine.

The one above is not.

Trolls are not only stupid, but they're immature and cowardly.


GravatarI have more pictures of my dog Shana up, if anyone's interested. The top one is my favorite, I think.


Gravatarfrom 'resembling reasonable' to 'utter asshole' in less than three hours...

not even a record...been done better

fuckin' loser
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar(aka

Obviously you aren't paying attention.
or you are drunk.
That's cool as well.
But NEVER mistake me for some namby pamby knee jerk PC liberal like you.
You shame Woody's guitar. Arlo should piss on you for the insult.


GravatarShame it wasn't Ted Nugent!
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat

Mt. Holly, AR is too cold for the Nuge.

He has to be killing bambis in Michigan...
Vicki


I used to be a groupie for Nugent and his band. Travelled coast to coast three times and never spent a dime. You know what I mean.


GravatarBambi strikes back...or not. I live in an area were such stories are relatively common. Most often the hunter falls asleep while waiting for Bambi to appear. Even on a twenty degree day it can get quite cozy in all that gear....its why I only hunt from ground blinds. Is it more humane for Bambi to run across the road and get nailed by a car, perhaps even injuring or killing a non-hunter like yourself? Again, fairly common around here.


GravatarIt *is* Ted!
Eli |


Well, that explains the misogyny and the name stealing.


Gravatarsome namby pamby knee jerk PC liberal like you.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

*gasp*

*choke*

*splutter*

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! !!!!!


GravatarVicki,

Two things that can make a huge difference are eating well and remaining active. Unfortunately, both of those are among the first to go when one is depressed. But fight that urge. Take a walk every day with a friend. The movement, fresh air and conversation will help.


GravatarArlo should piss on you for the insult.
Fangio


Woody would like that. Golden showers, that is.


GravatarHugs to Vicki and mena tonight!


GravatarI used to be a groupie for Nugent and his band. Travelled coast to coast three times and never spent a dime. You know what I mean.
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat


NOT MINE!

Again, the "women are whores" attitude from a misogynistic troll.


Gravatar(alec baldwin is doing a great job on SNL)


GravatarI always thought a fangio was a type of wart you got on the bottom of your foot. Ha.


GravatarStop it Eli, or your heart might bleed.
Lotsa litter tonight, I see.


GravatarHe has to be killing bambis in Michigan...
Vicki

I'm not a hunter, but I know lots of them. Deer need to be killed to cut down on the population. other wise they starve to death.
Not a lot of food in the winter.
City people just don't get that part.


Gravatarterry, we can tell who is the fake terry. just chill.


GravatarIt seems really magnificent in here tonight, doesn't it?


Gravatar*gasp*

*choke*

*splutter*
Eli


Did Woody just blow a load in your mouth?


GravatarStop it Eli, or your heart might bleed.
Lotsa litter tonight, I see.


My knee! I can't stop my knee!


GravatarThank you rorschach. I find drugs usually help.


Gravataridiots your "fitzmiss" is over...

maybe it will happen, maybe not. but if it does they will just fall the fuck apart. all their faith in one fat, pasty, ratfuck'n, evil 'genius' and a dimwitted, mushmouthed, ersatz cowboy.

not much going on behind the curtains, all smoke and mirrors, which is why the united states is in the horrible mess it is.

and i doubt it's official or anything, but i think it's spelled fitzmas.


GravatarVicki,

If you're having a tough time shaking the depression, consider Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. It worked wonders for me (for both depression and alcoholism), and I know a few others who have had good experiences with it.


GravatarI always thought a fangio was a type of wart you got on the bottom of your foot. Ha.
Barry from Alaska |

Dude you should go into comedy.
You slay me, you really do.


GravatarI always thought a fangio was a type of wart you got on the bottom of your foot. Ha.
Barry from Alaska


No Barry, it's a venereal wart your wife gave half the town.


GravatarAre you sipping a lovely sauterne, or someething mulled

Actually a Washington Chardonnay, how elite of me...


GravatarActually a Washington Chardonnay, how elite of me...
FeralLiberal




You elitist librul, you.


GravatarNo Barry, it's a venereal wart your wife gave half the town.
Fangio

Who ever the not me is, I'm leaving this too your hands.
Gonna work on the torrents before bed.


GravatarI used to be a groupie for Nugent and his band. Travelled coast to coast three times and never spent a dime. You know what I mean.
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat



Iim from Michigan. Next time you tour call me and I'll show you a good time.


GravatarI always thought a fangio was a type of wart you got on the bottom of your foot. Ha.
Barry from Alaska
*****************


"fangio" is a term from renaissance florentine. it translates roughly as "shithead".


GravatarAnd I know something about warts--anal warts in particular.


GravatarBut NEVER mistake me for some namby pamby knee jerk PC liberal like you.
You shame Woody's guitar. Arlo should piss on you for the insult.
Fangio

i rather think he'd rip off your head an d piss down your gullet.

but what do i know.


GravatarI had the best Tempranillo earlier tonight. With merlot ravioli wrapped around cheese and garlic, with an alfredo sauce. the wine was in these insanely cool glasses given to us for the wedding by my wife's diss director.

Good stuff.


GravatarWhich winery, Feral?


GravatarTed Nugent is a disgusting human being. It is a mistake to indentify hunters with the asshole. He has no repect for the natural world, his "whack em and stack em philosophy" coming directly from the 1870's and wholesale slaughter of Buffalo. Windrows upon windrows of Buffalo carcass for miles and miles.


GravatarI had the best Tempranillo earlier tonight. With merlot ravioli wrapped around cheese and garlic, with an alfredo sauce. the wine was in these insanely cool glasses given to us for the wedding by my wife's diss director.

Good stuff.
rorschach | Homepage | 12.11.05 - 12:04 am | #
*******************

i had a cheeseburger.


Gravatarhttp://www.orlandosentinel.com/n...-home- headlines

Miami passenger shot never claimed to have bomb according to 7 eyewitness passengers on the plane.


GravatarSpeaking of Ted Nugent, my local Alamo Drafthouse movie theater shows vintage footage from a wide variety of video clips from home movies, old commercials, crappy shows, etc. as entertainment before the previews start. They usually splice some stuff together that's related to the movie you're about to see. So during Walk the Line, the Drafthouse included a clip of Ted Nugent on his ranch, stalking the wild synthesizer keyboard. He shot the damn thing about a gazillion times with an automatic shotgun.

Crazy fuck! Anyway, the whole audience (packed house) was in an uproar over it -- laughing hysterically at this sad sad man.


GravatarYou shame Woody's guitar

You dishonor the famous name you have appropriated. Juan Manuel was a consumate sportsman and gentleman who would never stoop to the level you have inhabited.


GravatarNugent's Amboy Dukes "Journey to the Center of the Mind" has always proved a reliable way to clear out a party.


Gravatarbut what do i know.
charley

Not much, assface.


GravatarAnd I know something about assfaces.


GravatarYomama...Air Marshall Bobbies have made it clear that Latinate men(arab to the undiscerning eye?) should be summarily executed for (a) being late for work and being shit-scared of undercover officers chasing them, and (b) being mentally ill.


Gravatarted nugent is a trophy hunter and gun worshipper. i have a problem with people like that.


GravatarI'm so fucking tired of this bushit.


GravatarThe men executed by Air Marshall Bobbies should be grateful they weren't sodomized by broomsticks or lorded over by pint-sized she-males.


GravatarTime to sleep, it is.


GravatarG'nite JP.


GravatarBTW, Ted is knob polisher. I can't think of the chemical he uses, but it makes everything pretty!


GravatarHey there, Liberals.

This thread looks fucked up. Are you guys really playing with trolls or has booze (I heart it at times)taken over? Can't relate.


GravatarWhich winery, Feral?

Forgeron, in Walla Walla. Their winemaker is a young woman from France, the Chardonnay is an unoaked Chablis style, much to my liking! A wonderful find from my recent trip, they don't distribute in Wis.


Gravatarbigvic, just poking sticks at the trolls. No booze here, yet.


GravatarI meant poking the trolls with my stick.


GravatarAnd seeing how many names they can steal in a night.


GravatarBarry from Alaska,
Grow up Barry. All you're doing is feeding the trolls and spoiling the thread for the rest of us.


GravatarHow do they steal names? They haven't got my name yet. I'm kinda of naive about the internets.


GravatarHey bigvic! How ya been?


GravatarAll you're doing is feeding the trolls and spoiling the thread for the rest of us.
bigvic


That is rather a silly thing to say this late on a weekend night. And presumptuous, given that you just now showed up.


Gravatar"The men executed by Air Marshall Bobbies should be grateful they weren't sodomized by broomsticks or lorded over by pint-sized she-males."

I shared a fantasy. no projection here. Speaking of she-males, where's TerryC?


GravatarHi bigvic. We're cruising around like the Ship of the Damned tonight. Ahoy!


GravatarWhen I say "lorded over by pint sized she-males" I don't mean to sound misogynistic. But c'mon folks, despite her pregancny you have to know that Pvt. Englund is a carpet muncher who lacks, figuratively speaking, the balls to admit it to herself.


Gravatarrorschach,
You're no better.


GravatarThanks rorschach.


GravatarOkay, some fucker stole my name.


GravatarFeral - sounds like you had a good time out here. Come back again sometime and spend some more time.


GravatarForgeron, in Walla Walla.

Ah, I'd like to move there. It's beautiful. There's a Naked Guys of Walla Walla calendar on my wall; Mr. December is posing amid casks, with a huge bottle of something strategically placed.

I see things are insane here tonight, and there's not even a full moon.


GravatarI didn't ask you to do it to me, I asked you to tell me how it was done. You have borne false witness my friend.


GravatarSorry folks, but all this troll-feeding frenzy is depressing. Just IGNORE them.


Gravatarrorschach,
You're no better.
bigvic


Never claimed to be, and

Than what?


GravatarSilleigh - aawoooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!


GravatarFeral,

I'm great! You? Though I have an active troll making comments under my name that doesn't come from my keyboard and some folks here don't seem to recognize that fact, heh, things are good.


GravatarIt's amazing how much bigger your house gets after a death in the family.

jurassicpork, Shana was beautiful, inside and out - very clear from the photos. And, you are so right - the *hole* a life force makes when it leaves is incalculable.

There will never be another critter like her - she was as unique as any/every living being.

I wish you the best as you try to get on without her.

Mr Deere and I were just speaking tonight of our cat who died just short of 15 yrs w/us four yrs ago. We will never get over missing her, though we have two cats now that we adore. We were just thinking how Kritti would have whipped these two into shape and taught them a thing or three.

Anyway - hugs from a fellow critter lover.

SD


Gravatar"Thanks rorschach."

Birds of a feather.


GravatarCome back again sometime and spend some more time

I would love to!


GravatarMena, my other brain!

I was thinking of you last night, watching that version of Dracula w/Gary Oldman.


GravatarMr Deere and I were just speaking tonight of our cat who died just short of 15 yrs w/us four yrs ago. We will never get over missing her, though we have two cats now that we adore. We were just thinking how Kritti would have whipped these two into shape and taught them a thing or three.

Fortunately, my three dear little cats will never die. (Desperately embracing denial.)


GravatarPretty easy to tell the real from the fake.

Stupid mumbling trolls.


GravatarFortunately, my three dear little cats will never die. (Desperately embracing denial.)
rorschach

ror, may they be immortal!!!!!

They sure as shit deserve to be - unlike we human beans.


GravatarMay I assume you've all seen this great house-lights thing?
#


Gravatar500th


Gravatarheh, things are good

Glad to hear it! And at the risk of being a Christmas hating heathen, Happy Holidays!


GravatarHahahahahahahaha. Snort. Hahahahahahah

The idiot troll who is posting as me, even as I type, is needing to go to the nervious hospital. What a moran!


Gravatarror, may they be immortal!!!!!

They sure as shit deserve to be - unlike we human beans.
Sarah Deere


Word.

The kitties in question.


GravatarI found this at a website called "mike the mad biologist." Would appreciate any info anyone here has about this:

Saturday, December 10, 2005
Secret Laws?
John Gilmore, computer whiz and staunch libertarian, has brought a lawsuit challenging the authority of the government to prevent someone from travelling commercial flights without identification. What's amazing–and probably unknown to most people–is that this regulation is based on "secret" law. That's right: laws passed without knowledge of the public. To make this clear, this isn't secret information, this is a secret law. In other words, you could break the law and not know that you have done so (italics mine):

John Gilmore, an early employee of Sun Microsystems and co-founder of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, says the answer should be "no." The libertarian millionaire sued the Bush administration, which claims that the ID requirement is necessary for security but has refused to identify any actual regulation requiring it.

A three-judge panel of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals seemed skeptical of the Bush administration's defense of secret laws and regulations but stopped short of suggesting that such a rule would be necessarily unconstitutional.
"How do we know there's an order?" Judge Thomas Nelson asked. "Because you said there was?"

Replied Joshua Waldman, a staff attorney for the Department of Justice: "We couldn't confirm or deny the existence of an order." Even though government regulations required his silence, Waldman said, the situation did seem a "bit peculiar."

"This is America," said James Harrison, a lawyer representing Gilmore. "We do not have secret laws. Period." Harrison stressed that Gilmore was happy to go through a metal detector...

On the courthouse steps after the arguments, Gilmore said he felt confident about the case and welcomed a verbal concession from the Justice Department. "I was glad the government admitted it was 'peculiar' and Orwellian to make secret laws," Gilmore said.
The Justice Department has said it could identify the secret law under seal, which would be available to the 9th Circuit but not necessarily Gilmore's lawyers. But any public description would not be permitted, the department said.


GravatarThe baking frenzy is over--for the night, anyway. We have an assortment of Christmas destroying goodies for your consumption.


GravatarMay I assume you've all seen this great house-lights thing?
==

Why does that make me want to sculpt large amountsof mashed potatoes?


GravatarFeral,

Glad to hear it! And at the risk of being a Christmas hating heathen, Happy Holidays!

Heh. May all the goodness in the world pile up at your door. And HAPPY HOLIDAYS to you and yours.


GravatarMay I assume you've all seen this great house-lights thing?
Silleigh

Oh. My. God.

Someone with waaayyy too much time and $$ on their hands.....


GravatarWhy does that make me want to sculpt large amountsof mashed potatoes?

That's one reaction I haven't heard 'til now.

It's completely snuffed any urge I might've had to ride around looking at house lights this year.


Gravatar Hi bigvic. We're cruising around like the Ship of the Damned tonight. Ahoy!
mena


Hey, (((mena!)))

There are some real sick individuals here tonight. I'm confident you know who I am, so piss on them. You doing OK? Looking forward to the HOLIDAY BREAK?


GravatarSomeone with waaayyy too much time and $$ on their hands.....

He did it last year, too, to a different song. There's a Snopes page about it, let's see: ahh, here. There's a link to the 2004 one right before the "Additional Information" heading.


GravatarThe kitties in question.
rorschach


The one on the right looks like Four Leg's lion kiitty
Maxx
and my Magoo


GravatarHere's a secret law I could get behind:

No public whistling.


GravatarThe kitties in question.

*THE KITTIES*!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They rule.


GravatarMaxx and my Magoo

damn, I love cats.


GravatarAnd I have it on good authority that Gramsci, Tista, and Zora are fond of you as well, Sarah.


GravatarFamous Cat-Haters

There are too many famous cat-lovers to list them all, but here are some cat-haters... Would you believe!

Wu-Chao, Empress of China (624-705)

Pope Gregory IX (1147-1241)

Pope Innocent Vll (1336-1415)

Pope Innocent VIII (1432-1492)

Elizabeth I (1533-1603)

William Shakespeare (1564-1616)

King Louis XlV (1638-1715)

Buffon, George Louis Leclerc, Comte de (1707-178

Hilaire Belloc (1870-1953)

Isadora Duncan (1878-1927)

Dwight Eisenhower (1890-1969)


GravatarThere's a Snopes page about it, let's see: ahh, here. There's a link to the 2004 one right before the "Additional Information" heading.

$10,000.....it wasn't all that long ago (well, to me) that I was making $11,000/year (1996), so...this seems pretty strange to me, even n ow when my paychecks are way improved.


GravatarIs it too late to join in on any late night boogaloo?


Gravatar"They do not seem to be able to accept that the cat they allow to wander around the neighbourhood everyday can be classed as a nuisance by others. Only a change in attitude of the cat owner will be reciprocated by the cat hater.

Cat owners call themselves animal lovers while allowing their pets to contribute to the decline in the number of birds and small mammals in the UK. They are either blind to, or would rather ignore, the fact that this is occurring.

Cat owners believe that the cat's independence is a wonderful attribute - only because they can then abdicate their responsibility for their pet.
No need to clean up after it - the neighbours can do that.
It doesn't matter anyway, faeces are buried - out of sight, out of their minds.
No need to keep an eye on its reproductive habits - there are voluntary organisations to cope with the unwanted kittens.
It sometimes returns to the "owners" house to get fed, then it's off again killing wildlife, spreading disease, damaging property and breeding without control.


Gravatarbigvic - I think most of the real regulares know who's who. I can certainly tell you from the slobberers. And yes, a break sounds nice, thanks.


GravatarTarheel, I'm not long for the conscious world, but Gawd only knows what these folks get up to in the wee hours.


Gravatar"$10,000.....it wasn't all that long ago (well, to me) that I was making $11,000/year (1996), so...this seems pretty strange to me, even n ow when my paychecks are way improved."

It's hard to make a living when you're uneducated.


GravatarHmmm, shaninigans as usual I suspect Silleigh


GravatarBobo's world!


GravatarAnonymous | 12.11.05 - 12:51 am | #

Why are you such an asshole?

Just curious.


GravatarI'm off to bed.

But did anyone notice that the 4th Circuit has told the Bush Administration that a case is moot when the court says it is, and not when one of the parties changes the facts to try to make it moot?

Very interesting legal development, that.

Night, all.


GravatarA HAMLET is being stalked by a cat-hater. Two dozen pets have been killed or have disappeared in the past 12 months. One owner lost nine kittens from two litters within six weeks. The 176 people of Simonburn. Northumberland, have frequently found their cats peppered with shotgun pellets or poisoned. Rat bait has been discovered in the hedgerows. If anyone knows who is responsible, no one is talking. Many locals will not answer questions for fear of reprisals which has left the RSPCA with little evidence to catch the culprit. Inspector Tony Jackman, who is leading the society's investigation, said: "It is very mysterious that over such a short period of time such a high number of cats have gone missing. Clearly it is not just down to natural causes. Obviously somebody is out to do this." Among the first victims were two tomcats, Byron and Wordsworth, which disappeared last autumn. Stephen Sutton, 41, their owner, said: "They went out one foggy night and just never came back." The missing kittens were his too. Mr Sutton, a lawyer who, with his wife, Edna, lives in the former rectory, said: "People in the village have their suspicions, but no proof." Now the couple have just two cats, Shelley and Coleridge. Mr Sutton, a lay reader at the parish church, said: "This is a remote community where you expect you are safe with your pets. There are a lot of elderly people in the village who enjoyed having pets running around. There is a lot of poisoned bait being left around." Another owner said: 'We found our dead cat stuffed down a rabbit hole in very suspicious circumstances. It is terrible." Whoever is responsible faces a stiff penalty if caught. Anyone convicted under the 1911 Protection of Animals Act of causing a cat suffering may be fined up to 5,000 pounds or sent to prison for six months. But that is little comfort for a village bereft of its pets. In Simonburn's only shop, a customer pointed to rows of tins and boxes of catfood and said: "They certainly don't shift much of that these days."


Gravatarrorschach - grammie's gotten so big!


GravatarGramsci, Tista, and Zora are fond of you as well

ror, I am humbled and honored.

I do respect and love them all. And my life is enriched by them.


GravatarHow old is Warner anyway, 87?


Gravatarmena,

Word! I'm going to bed.

Peace out dear Liberals.


GravatarDeb Foskey pushed out a horrified media release (below) this afternoon. The Liberals had mocked her anti-cat crusade!

Yes, a cat out at night is a killing machine, no question. But what sort of environment is it predating again? After we’ve bulldozed the trees, built roads, fences, houses, laid concrete all around and planted whatever we think looks pretty why exactly are we getting bent out of shape about what tiddles gets up to?

Steve Pratt rubbed salt in the wounds when he put out this mocking media release.

Interesting to see Steve standing up for the freedoms of cats considering his attitude towards the freedoms of his fellow Canberrans.

UPDATED: *THE* National Geographic


GravatarMay I assume you've all seen this great house-lights thing?

I didn't hear any music as it rolled. It needs some music. Maybe Homer Simpson doing an Elvis tune.

Alternatively, it could be a jackpot flashing thingee on a slot machine.


GravatarOne more Kitty Pic before I call it quits for the night.


GravatarLost your cat? Look under my tires!


GravatarThank you all for posting your kitty pics! It's so great to be among animal lovers, and seeing the kitty cats always brightens my day.

Rorschach, Grammikins--is he actually a tiger now?


GravatarI didn't hear any music as it rolled. It needs some music.

Damn. It's... something Trans-Siberian Orchestral. Can't remember what piece. The lights are perfectly in sync with the music.

You could try, um, making sure your kids didn't disconnect your speakers and stick 'em into the headphones? That usually solves my sound problems here.


GravatarNite, Liberals!

See you another day.


GravatarWhere the F is Olaf? Earlier post indicates he is Big Henry Miller fan...I want to give that man a hug.


GravatarI eat and sleep Miller, and Chomsky I breathe...


GravatarNight bigvic. And night Feral. And rorschach and everyone, I think I'm out too. It's hard work in here tonight, hard. Vicki, if you're still out there, take care and remember, it keeps changing.


GravatarRorschach, Grammikins--is he actually a tiger now?
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere


Grammy is a monster. Presently, he is lying in my lap purring up a storm. When he half-wakes-up that is. And he insists on cleaning my hands and arms daily.


GravatarChicago banker Rockwell Sayre must have been the worlds worst cat-hater. He lived in the early 1920's, and started a campaign to rid the entire world of cats by the year 1925. He offered financial rewards to cat killers.
He said that cats were "filthy and useless" and claimed to have inspired the killing of seven million cats during the first three months of his campaign. In 1925 he extended his campaign for a further ten years, as there were many cats still left. But soon after he himself died.


GravatarIs the cat-guy the same one who posts endlessly about...Euclid and Beethoven and stuff? I've heard rumors about strangely obsessive comments late at night...


Gravatarhttp://www.finktank3000.com/word...ordpress/? p=261


GravatarUm, which one is Grammy?


GravatarTwelve O'Clock central and I'm turning into a pumpkin. Goodnight good Bats...


Gravatarhttp://www.bonsaikitten.com/bnw.html


just horrible


GravatarThat is fucking sick namestealer


GravatarUm, which one is Grammy?
Barry from Alaska


Gramsci=black and white kitty

Zora=poofy kitty on sofa with Gramsci

Tista=Sleepy kitty with stripes


Gravatar"Grammy is a monster."

Bigger the better for target practice. I love it when my neighbiors cats trespass on my land. I just let my dogs go.

They tree 'em and I finish the job.


GravatarDo we have the honor of a visit from Bill Frist this evening?


GravatarThanks roschach for putting names with the faces.

We got three here too, Hidey is our monster.


GravatarYou could try, um, making sure your kids didn't disconnect your speakers and stick 'em into the headphones? That usually solves my sound problems here.



Ah. I had the sound turned off, just watched it with the sound on. Now THAT is ART!


Gravatarand I finish the job.
Kat Man | 12.11.05 - 1:07 am | #


Ummmm, that's great Kat Man but I don't remember anyone enquiring on your initiation into giving head.


GravatarIs it true that threadbot has been nominated for a blogger award?


Gravatarokay..... well gnight whoever's left


GravatarWe've got a really sick fucker on board tonight. This one is skewing the curve, and not in a positive direction.


GravatarThey tree 'em and I finish the job.
Kat Man


Wow, you just admitted to that online? You are not very bright, are you??


GravatarAnyone see the Bill O'Reilly skit on SNL tonight? Very funny! Nice to see crazy billy boy getting spoofed more and more.


Gravatar Eugene McCarthy died.


Gravatarso, odd.

tuned into a 8/12/05 panel discussion on cspan. chaired by geneva overholzer. panelists, scott armstrong, sy hersh, tina rosenberg.

tina works for the nyt, don't you know. which qualifies her as an official c*nt.

now, why do i say that? because in her initial remarks she decided to take a swipe at hugo chavez frias. claimed that he was..."not a friend of the free press".

i caught sy rolling his eyes, but sy refrained from attacking his mossadist agent. as he should have done.

let us reflect on the venezuelan press, for the moment. virtually its entirety is controlled by usg agents.

and hugo has been remarkably restrained. if i were running venezuela i would have renditioned the publishers, editors of these 5th column journals long ago.

but, hugo has not done that. why, i wonder?

is hugo just a strawman? probably.

hugo, until you round up all those 5th columnists in your country, i am going to have to rank you as a rockefeller stooge.

anyone out there disagree?


GravatarG'nite Tarheel


GravatarEugene McCarthy died.
Silleigh


As did Robert Sheckley and Richard Pryor.


Gravatar(Probably everyone knew about McCarthy -- I haven't been around any news since yesterday afternoon. 'Scuse, please.)


Gravataryes, there are a couple of major nimwits around tonight.

Randi Rhodes got all kinds of crazy calls on Friday from some talking points Repuke zombies. They were bashing Cindy Sheehan and accusing Randi of doing a skit about killing the president.


GravatarSick, disgustingly sick name stealing male.

The baby pictures are way over the top.

Does law enforcement get involved investigating those kinds of things?


GravatarWe've got a really sick fucker on board tonight. This one is skewing the curve, and not in a positive direction.
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere


Best I can figure Sallyh, is someone parents couldn't afford a babysitter tonight while they went to their intelligent design meeting.

So, they left junior at home alone, and somehow he found this place.

Too bad he's such a mumbler too.


GravatarCrap. I heard about Pryor earlier tonight from a friend, but not Sheckley.


GravatarEither the parent/babysitter thing, or the Kansas Young Rethuglicans are having a troll contest.


GravatarSick, disgustingly sick name stealing male.

No need to worry, if you're one of the regulars, the other regulars know your opinions.


GravatarRandi Rhodes got all kinds of crazy calls on Friday from some talking points Repuke zombies. They were bashing Cindy Sheehan and accusing Randi of doing a skit about killing the president.
ploo


You mean, killing, like that Senator's aide threatening Justice Kennedy using references to Stalin at that neocon christian conference a couple of months ago?


GravatarNormally, I don't do this, but ...

1) I went to an Ivy league school

2) My cats are - and have always been - indoor cats.


GravatarIt really is hard to imagine the namestealing and the anti-cat propaganda and the rest of this trool's behavior is the work of a grown man, isn't it...


GravatarWhat's the major malfunction in here?


GravatarOh shit, all the trolls are coming home to roost.
This is it, we knew the day was coming.


GravatarNo fooling Nick, that's why I'm subscribing to the Kansas Young Rethuglican theory.


GravatarSomebody don't like the kitty kats?


Gravataralbertchampion | Email | Homepage | 12.11.05 - 1:19 am | #

Oh look, it is he of the absolute ignorance of how to converse.

On that note...

Good night, all.


GravatarYou're wrong Barry.
There is a notable absence of certain regulars tonight.
As stated previously....most trolls are inbred regulars.


GravatarNo need to worry, if you're one of the regulars, the other regulars know your opinions.



I'm not worried about myself. I'm a bit worried about the baby shown on that sadistic web site, though. The site mentions drugging kittens with Ketamine. Ketamine is a pediatric anesthetic. It's a definite controlled substance. It's difficult to imagine just "anyone" having access to such a drug.

I hope the baby is safe, and not living with a maniac.

I just don't find it amusing.


GravatarG'nite rorscach.


GravatarWow... this is cool. I've always wanted a clone, but didn't think we had the technology yet. Now I can keep hangin' out here AND go to bed when I get tired, and not miss a thing!


GravatarTwo movies I just watched and would recommend:

Vacas by Julio Medem--Family feud among the Basques set largely in a forest straight out of Goya. Lotsa magical realism and pagan imagery, like the magical white cow who keeps appearing. I was darn confused about the family relationships early on. It turns out for good reason. Medem pulls the trick of having the actors exchange roles--a guy might be Lucas one minute and Manuel the next. Two characters have three different actors playing them.

Speaking Parts by Atom Egoyan: Love quadrangle weherein three are depressives. Here's how artsy this movie is: In the second shot (after an establishing shot) you are watching a woman watch TV. The image on the TV is a group of people watching TV. Why isn't Egoyan as popular as Speilberg?


GravatarThe bad trolls drive out the good trolls.
Ironically, this troll is the antidote to all trolls.


GravatarOccasional Poster -- not to worry. Bonsai Kitten is an old hoax.


GravatarWe've got a really sick fucker on board tonight.

Agreed. It - and I mean It - has upped the ante.


GravatarSorry guys, we've got a real sicko on thread and I can't deal with this kind of crap. People like him need to be turned over to law enforcement, not hanging on blogs.

Sleep well, dear friends.


GravatarI love nappy heade bitches. and



















































i'm not kidding!


GravatarThe next time you watch Blazing Saddles and see Mongo, sigh and bid a fond farewell to Richard Pryor--he wrote that part.


Gravatarrorschach, goodnight.

I always feel so inadequate being one of the last to post, not being of consequence.


GravatarG'nite Sallyh, better day tomorrow.


GravatarThis troll will immediately spawn a copycat troll.


GravatarLost your cat? Look under my tires!


asshole!


GravatarSilleigh,

Thank you for the link.

I was literally thinking about calling the FBI. Not as much about the kitties, although that is just hideous and sadistic, as about the baby.

This was not funny. It was simply sick.


GravatarNeo-Nazi's stage peaceful protest.


GravatarThe next time you watch Blazing Saddles and see Mongo, sigh and bid a fond farewell to Richard Pryor--he wrote that part.
Uncle Smokes

"Don't shoot Mongo. Just make him mad."



Gravatarther're better than any human you can think of


GravatarOP: What baby? I guess I didn't hang out there long enough. On second thought, maybe I don't wanna know.

(I'm havin' more fun sitting here watching some wooden, robotic troll think it's causing confusion by "stealing" my "name.")


GravatarUncle Smokes,

now that thar is a damn fine movie.


Gravatarhttp://goblogurself.blogspot.com...-of- masses.html


Gravatar"Don't shoot Mongo. Just make him mad."

Of course there's the classic:

"Mongo don't know. Mongo only pawn in game of life."


GravatarSilleigh,

you don't want to know. Remember the days of "Don't ask; don't tell?'

I miss Bill Clinton.


GravatarUncle Smokes

"If someone asks you if you're a god, you. say. yes."

Another damn fine movie.


GravatarI miss Bill Clinton.

Hell, honeychile, these days I miss Nixon.

Anyway, whatever horrible baby stuff was there was likely a hoax as well...

And tomorrow morning we can stop back here and watch the troll devolve into talking to itself under five different nyms.


GravatarUncle Smokes, yes!! Truly classic line. Gee, I love that movie.


GravatarI miss King George III--can we try another revolution, like the Declaration of Independence suggests?


GravatarI miss King George III--can we try another revolution, like the Declaration of Independence suggests?



GravatarI just heard a public service announcement W did for the United Way. One sentence went "For over 120 years the UW has helped mobilize America's great armies of compassion..."

Armies of compassion, huh? That explains a lot


GravatarI saw a clip on Fox news tonight of Bill O'reilly saying that if Sami al-Arian is truly innocent, then why didn't he take the stand in his trial. I hope someone with much more sway and intelligence than I have, (most everybody), points out what a hypocrit BO is. First, it is al-Arian's legal right not to take the stand, and second, Bill O'reilly settled his sexual harrasment suit out of court. What an asshole!


GravatarHell, honeychile, these days I miss Nixon.
We were watching the Democratic Convention with a houseful of college students when Clinton spoke. These kids had only really been paying attention to politics for a couple years, so their biggest political input up until that point had been the Chimp, Ann the Hater, etc.

They were just about speechless after Clinton spoke. His sanity and intelligence were in remarkable contrast to the mumblings, screaming and hate they had been hearing from the Bush junta.

How I long for the days when the leader was a reasonable and capable man.


Gravatar
Armies of compassion


Wasn't that a Bruce Campbell movie?

"Gimme some oil, baby!"


GravatarUncle Smokes

I think we read the same article tonight on another web site.


GravatarI say again, the A-man needs to rig threadbot to generate a new thread when a thread hits 300 comments.

These ~ 700 comment threads are almost as annoying as Ruppert's panty fetish.


GravatarHas anyone see that t shirt that has that great big ugly white W and then reads Wtf


GravatarI think we read the same article tonight on another web site.

Not certain what you're referring to...and anyway, I don't read because I wanna grow up to be president.


GravatarI wish I still had my t-shirt that featured Reagan with a mohawk and spelled out in punk, ransom-note cut-n-paste letters, "New Republicans."


GravatarI saw a clip on Fox news tonight of Bill O'reilly saying that if Sami al-Arian is truly innocent, then why didn't he take the stand in his trial.

Oh, that's great. I'm pretty sure the other day that the LTE column in the St Pete Times was absolutely filled with people laughing at the whole "case" against al-Arian. Everyone can see it but Faux.

* * *
OP: Yeah, it's weird, remembering the days when you could actually find a speech by the President inspiring. Clinton's always been a killer speaker, in contrast to the current slurring fratboy.

Zogby is doing a lot of feeling around right now about Hillary, btw -- I did a poll of theirs tonight. I wasn't real supportive, but it's clear from the other answers that I vote Dem unless the Dem in question is crazy.


GravatarChris, Ruppert's Panty Fetish must be awful indeed, 'cuz the link denies me access. It doesn't want to warp my fragile little mind, I guess.


GravatarNot certain what you're referring to...and anyway, I don't read because I wanna grow up to be president

LOL, Uncle.

An article that mentioned the Georges and the declaration,


This one:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ la...ei_b_11988.html


This one was good too:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ ka...ut_b_11975.html


GravatarChris, Ruppert's Panty Fetish must be awful indeed, 'cuz the link denies me access. It doesn't want to warp my fragile little mind, I guess.

I clicked it, too, instead of wisely checking the URL--if it's panties and a Japanese web site, there's a chance you might end up at a site that has images that would be illegal here.

Gotta be careful these days.


GravatarI wish I still had my t-shirt that featured Reagan with a mohawk and spelled out in punk, ransom-note cut-n-paste letters, "New Republicans."


The W is an easy thing to reinterprt

War on Women, for instance


GravatarBedtime for me, folks, my eyes are threatening to fall out. Gotta be all charged up for fresh absurdity tomorrow. Night, O Bats of Moon.


GravatarMorning, everyone. I can't sleep. Woke up in a cold sweat worried about money. Just paid $1200 to get our car repaired & that didn't fix the problem. Next problem, from what I've been able to find on the internets, will cost between $1100 and $1900 to fix.

Ugh.

And speaking of presidents: Ha, tonight I had a rerun of West Wing on tape and "Jeb Bartlett" gave one of the most stirring "speeches" I have ever heard. I told Mr. Hattie it's pretty pathetic when a fake president on a pretend TV show inspires you more than the real thing.


GravatarI clicked it too.

Glad it didn't work if what you say is true.


GravatarReal presidents inspire me sometimes, just not anytime in the last 5 years or so.


GravatarAh, sleep now beckons...y'all take care of your good selves.

[Thanks for the Huffington Post links, Occasional Poster]

Good night!


GravatarOP: Yeah, it's weird, remembering the days when you could actually find a speech by the President inspiring. Clinton's always been a killer speaker, in contrast to the current slurring fratboy


I'll just be glad when this current crop of crazies falls out of power.
Every step they take exposes their insanity more. It's tiring , but they get crazier by the minute, and we can make that work for us.

Someone one another site was saying we should compile a list of everyone the RTL nuts are boycotting. They thought it would be good to shop at the boycotted stores, and it would be. A counter boycott. A shop-in.

I think we somoen ought to compile and publicize their list because it might be a good idea to let the American public know that the fundies think everyone from Sponge Bob to the Girl Scouts is out to get them.

That's useful information the public can grab ahold of.


Gravatar'night, silleigh.


GravatarHow odd, it works for me.

And fear not, it's nothing illegal! Damn odd, mind you, but not illegal.

I'd never lead any of my fellows and friends here into something illegal.


GravatarOccasional Poster, a counter protest, your shop in, would be good, except that I see the RTLers planning on boycotting Wal-Mart (ironic, cause that's where many of them work, and already on my boycot list for other reasons) and Target (we don't have on in Anchorage).

Other than that, I'm all for going counter to the RTL crowd. Anywhere O'Liley targets, I'm there shopping.


GravatarG'nite silleigh.


GravatarThat's useful information the public can grab ahold of.


Except that a lot of the public isn't sane.


GravatarI guess I'm the only one still up. I'll return to my movie.


GravatarI'm here 4 legs


GravatarSeems like it's gonna be a Vicious Full Moon on Thursday next, so all take care.

Today was lovely, though, at least for the Deere clan.

Let's all boil some trolls and render the fat for...whatever. Biofuel? Soap?

As for the rest of it, sleep well, dears. No bedbugs, but much snugging in the rug.

SD


GravatarGood night SD.

Just be thankful the trolls weren't smart enough to pick up on the Heisman Trophy award tonight, and cram "another Bush win" at us.


Gravatarflg

but they can understand when someone is so paranoid that they are out of the universe.


GravatarJust be thankful the trolls weren't smart enough to pick up on the Heisman Trophy award tonight, and cram "another Bush win" at us.
Barry from Alaska |

Barry...yes.

Now, truly, to bed. Blessings on all your heads!


GravatarSeveral explosions at oil depot in England.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_ne...ews/ 4517962.stm

Listen to BBC Radio Five (all news/sports station) online via RealPlayer.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/fivelive/ li...estream_int.ram


GravatarI'd never lead any of my fellows and friends here into something illegal.

Sorry: Didn't mean to imply anything there--'twas just a cautionary note.

As the political machine begins more and more to zero in on the "excess of democracy" represented by blogs, I expect dity tricks like a name stealer sneaking in links that allow the Justice Department or the FBI to shut down a blog for obscenity.

I know I have a penchant for paranoia, but these days it seems that if I thought of it, you can bet some think tank somewhere has it on a to-do list.

I shudder to think that the only thing that kept me from being a spook or Rovian political operative is a belief in common decency.

Thank you, Dad.

Now I truly must get to sleep, to dream fevered dreams of the consent of the governed and the inalienable rights of humanity.

-------------------------

Reporter: What do you think of Western Civilization?
Mahatma Gandhi: I think it would be a good idea.


GravatarOver at Crooks and Liars, they picked up on this bit of O'Liley contradiction over the Holidays.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...2/ 10.html#a6265


GravatarOver at Crooks and Liars, they picked up on this bit of O'Liley contradiction over the Holidays.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...2/ 10.html#a6265


GravatarI'm here 4 legs


Now I'm annoyed about the Heisman.

I expected Bush to win, but by a landslide? Without Young Texas would be nowhere this season. He's that talented and that important.


Gravatarbut they can understand when someone is so paranoid that they are out of the universe.


No. They think WE're paranoid. And they're paranoid themselves.

Add to that the fact that they don't think logically- a bad combination.


GravatarWell, in Basketball, Duke just handed Texas's head to them. #1 vs #1, score was 97 to 66.

Big G works in funny ways.


GravatarOops, #1 vs #2


GravatarHow will you feel when you lose the next presidential election?


GravatarWell, in Basketball, Duke just handed Texas's head to them. #1 vs #1, score was 97 to 66.


That's fine. Texas basketball doesn't have any superstars.


Do you really think USC is that much better than Texas? I don't. And I'm sorry- I don't think Reggie Bush was the best football player this season. I don't.


GravatarHow will you feel when you lose the next presidential election?
dirk


How flattering, but I didn't know I was running.

I thank my party for the nomination, and I owe my loss to the tireless efforts of dirk.


GravatarHow flattering, but I didn't know I was running.


The trolls never sleep.


I am really sick of these asshats who continue to cheer while the republicans loot the country and tear down the republic.


GravatarDo you really think USC is that much better than Texas?

Actually, this season I don't give a flip about college football. Hmmm, pro either, except those Viking boys really know how to make a cruise special.


GravatarI am really sick of these asshats who continue to cheer while the republicans loot the country and tear down the republic.

Maybe that's why they are so Right to Life, they may realize that they need a huge base of kids to pay off this debacle.


GravatarYeah, I don't really care about pro-ball at all.

Either basketball or football.


I won't lose any sleep if Texas loses, but they're nice kids and I'd like to see them win for a change.

USC won last year.


GravatarMaybe that's why they are so Right to Life, they may realize that they need a huge base of kids to pay off this debacle.


And a huge number of kids to send off to die in their pointless wars.


GravatarI think the thing that set me off was reading the article on SI about the Heisman- basically they were saying how fucking great Leinart and Bush are and how they'll make kazillions in the NFL, and Young? eh, not such a sure thing.


What the fuck?? The kid is an amazing athlete.


GravatarNarnia set me off too.


I'm so tired of the fundies. So sick of them.


GravatarS'allright, Smokes.

No offense taken whatsoever.


GravatarBTW, this is the 40th anniversarry of Texas Western College beating Kentucky for the NCAA Basketball Championship.

I saw every home game for TWC that year, and every away one on TV that was broadcast.

5 black inner city boys beat the snot out of Phil Jackson and Kentucky.

Was a major sea change moment in College ball.


GravatarAnd so to bed!


GravatarBTW, this is the 40th anniversarry of Texas Western College beating Kentucky for the NCAA Basketball Championship.


Funny you should mention that- there's a film coming out about that season. I saw the preview in the theatre today- it looks excellent.


GravatarG;nite CT


GravatarI'm a TWC, (UTEP at my time) grad.

Glory Road is the film, about Don Haskins, the coach.


GravatarI'm a TWC, (UTEP at my time) grad.

Glory Road is the film, about Don Haskins, the coach.



Are you really? I'm UT Austin.


GravatarI was born in El Paso.


But only lived there a month before we moved to London.


Gravatarso, tell me....

is there any rank where you are exempted from the dictates of nuremberg?

if you are a marine lance corporal, who becomes involved in an illegal invasion of another sovereign country[iraq, for instance. even afghanistan], do you get a save harmless?

i don't think so.

the problem at the moment is that members[and i do mean dicks] of the us military, from regulars to reservists, to guardia, have all been willing to jump into the murdering of "OTHERS" in the warsaw ghetto mentality.

even worse, they were willing to submit to the bushit illegal war. submit to illegal orders in which they were obligated to murder iraqis[women, children, old men, and other non-combatants].

and worse, where they killed iraqi non-combatants.

support the troops. why?

why should i, or you, support individuals who decided to become war criminals?

again, i ask you, if the nuremberg doctrine is operative, why are the troops any less culpable than the amerikan general staff?

we hanged german and japanese soldiers after ww2 for their participation, implementation of war crimes.

do you think that george bush is any different from hideki tojo? do you think that don rumsfeld isn't worthy of the hangman's noose? that dick'em cheney deserves exoneration?

and do you think that the troops who should have the moral fiber to stand up and say no, and don't do that, deserve any exoneration?

and if you think that the amerikan murderers wearing uniforms are exempted from the nuremberg laws - tell us why you think that.

all ears.


GravatarAre you really? I'm UT Austin.

Yep, born and raised in El Paso.

Don't be mad at me, but I was Clayton Williams's pilot for two years.

Only a Texan would understand that one.


GravatarHoly crap, you were born in ELP?


GravatarFemale Hair Loss


GravatarDon't be mad at me, but I was Clayton Williams's pilot for two years.


I'm sorry, I don't know who that is. (remember I didn't grow up here)


GravatarHoly crap, you were born in ELP?


I believe it was el paso general.


GravatarClayton ran against Ann Richards for Govenor.

He's famous for the quote, paraphrasing here, "Rape is like the weather, sometimes ya just have to lay back and wait for it to be over."

He lost the election over that one.


GravatarClayton ran against Ann Richards for Govenor.

He's famous for the quote, paraphrasing here, "Rape is like the weather, sometimes ya just have to lay back and wait for it to be over."


Aha. I was in NYC at the time. Well, I'm sure he paid well.


GravatarI believe it was el paso general.

No such hospital, my dad was a peditricaian there.

Southwestern General
Provicence
Hotel Dieu
Thomason General (the county hospital)

were the main hospitals up thru the 1980's, then they got some more.


GravatarThe texas republican party is terrifying.


The fundies have TOTALLY taken over.


GravatarMust have been Southwestern.


That sounds right. I used to have a certificate with my feetie prints on it.

Lost it somewhere in all my moves.


GravatarThey are really scary now, that's for sure.

In 1990 when Clayton ran, I moved back to Texas for a bit just to vote against him.

Was very gratifying.

I had seen what he did with eminant domain to shove his gas pipelines around, was shameful.


GravatarThat sounds right. I used to have a certificate with my feetie prints on it.

I've got mine, also a Southwestern baby.

How weird.

When was this? Cause you probably got something from the Stat National Bank too, they used to give out stuff to babies in the 1950s and 1960s.


GravatarI had seen what he did with eminant domain to shove his gas pipelines around, was shameful.


They're unbelievable.


I was at a charity event last spring with a bunch of rethugs- a more self-satisfied, smug bunch of pricks I've never seen in my life.

And the sad thing was seeing all the young staffers with them. All these bright young men following in their footsteps- cause these days, in Texas, being a rethug is the popular thing to do.

It's all about branding.


GravatarWhen was this? Cause you probably got something from the Stat National Bank too, they used to give out stuff to babies in the 1950s and 1960s


1958.

My mother may have it. I had to get copies of my birth certificate a few years back from El Paso County. It's kind of strange- I have no connection to the place at all.


GravatarI don't even know anyone there.


Never have.


GravatarIt is weird.

And Maxx looks just like Magoo.


GravatarI don't even know anyone there.

Well, now ya know someone "from" there.


Gravatarfour legs good | Email | 12.11.05 - 3:15 am | #

My sister, b. 58, had a birth certificate with footprints on it too, and we lived in NY. The Records Office people explained to my puzzled parents that the feet were needed to identify her corpse in case of nuclear warfare, among other reasons, such as kidnapping. Congratulations on your new baby


GravatarAnd Maxx looks just like Magoo.


Yeah, they could be related. She looks sweeter though.


He is actually so sweet in temperment that I swear if you cut him open sugar would come out.


Gravatar
Maxx
and Magoo


Gravatar
Maxx
and Magoo


GravatarThe Records Office people explained to my puzzled parents that the feet were needed to identify her corpse in case of nuclear warfare, among other reasons, such as kidnapping.


Isn't that charming.


GravatarMaxx and Magoo


It's really uncanny.

Here's a newer one of him.

http://img.photobucket.com/album...fparis/ what.jpg


GravatarAnd of course a pornographic one:

http://img.photobucket.com/ album...plushytummy.jpg


GravatarBarry from Alaska | Email | 12.11.05 - 3:23 am | #

That Maxx photo is hilarious--it looks like he's walking around with some feline version of a light saber


GravatarThat Maxx photo is hilarious--it looks like he's walking around with some feline version of a light saber


He is guarding his toys with his paws of death.


Gravatarroscharch's cat is close in appearance, but without the ruff.

Hee hee, the prOn pic, Magoo hates to be upside down.


Gravataraway, SNL skit on I gotta watch


GravatarI'm off too.

Night guys.


GravatarG'nite Four Legs.

Me quit too.


Gravatarso, tell me....

is there any rank where you are exempted from the dictates of nuremberg?

OK, I'll tell you.

No, there is no rank exempted from the dictates od Nuremberg. But that does not mean every person who has served in the American Armed Forces since hostilities began is a war criminal. Only those who participated in war crimes.

War is not a war crime.

The ordinary soldiers who were prosecuted at Nurenberg were not prosecuted for going to war but for specific criminal acts carried out in the war.

You use the word murder as if it is the equivalent of killing. But an illegal killing is not necessarily murder even under peacetime laws. There's some requirement of intent as I understand it. There is no rule of war or law that says that the death of a civilian is murder per se. And to suggest that is, at best, ignorant.


GravatarAnother thread?


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