I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
no shit
They should all commit hari-kari.
turd
hi 4 legs,hows plushy dear?
"Candy-coated fairy food of mass destruction?"
that what the bloke said! true!
Moral of the story -- if you're gonna get a journamalism degree, stay the fuck away from the University of Maine.
You go, Athenae!
Aieee!
The stupid!
They should all commit hari-kari.
Or sepiku. It's the very least they can do to atone for their lack of honor.
In the meantime, Brian Williams reported tonight that "the president is comfortable in his skin."
Kumbaya, everyone! Journalists on the left, Administration on the right, Congress at the top end and lobbiests at the bottom! Let's all hold hands and sing, everyone!
hi 4 legs,hows plushy dear?
Furry!!
he's fine. He just had a snack and then went out to prowl.
We are doomed.
Doomed.
But the government is not acting in a vacuum. It is reacting to a media environment marked by enormous hostility. Skepticism is healthy, but too many journalists practice reporting informed by a pessimistic cynicism. This corrosive attitude is damaging the news industry; newspaper circulation and TV news viewership continue to decline.
That's, I dunno, stunning. "Pessimistic cynicism"?Has Mister Michael Socolow been following *any* U.S. media outlets?
he's fine. He just had a snack and then went out to prowl.
four legs good
He has you trained well, doesn't he?
what was the president doing in brian williams' skin?
Up is down! Wet is dry! Apples are oranges!
Argh - I give up. I'ma go to bed.
Fox News isn't sucking hard enough, dammit!
If only the fuckdolls were better fluffers!
I can smell the smoke from the First Draft server from here...
SHE CANNA TAKE NAE MORE, CAPTAIN!
Dilithium crystal, stat! Link is already fried.
many journalists practice reporting informed by a pessimistic cynicism
as opposed to the optimistic cynicism that we practice here.
He has you trained well, doesn't he?
I'll say.
Is Bush watching all his dominos falling?
from The Guardian:
" Spy agencies linked to CIA flights
CIA prisoners in Europe were apparently abducted and moved between countries illegally, possibly with the aid of secret services who did not tell their governments, according to a report"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/
You can find Socolow as a contributor, if I read the site correctly, to "religionlink.org"
WTF????
Helloscan ate my last two posts. Bastard.
Downie should promptly eat shit and die and take his wanking wanker friends at the WaPo with him.
I think the homestead is Atrios'd - wouldn't load. Is this Athenae's post on the journalism prof who counsels mediation between the press and government, so that they settle their differences?
what was the president doing in brian williams' skin?
I dunno, but you'd think a preznit with approval ratings in the 30s might be a little less comfortable.
from The Guardian:
Buncha pessimistic cynics.
G'night, peoples, pleasant dreams.
Again I say, replace the entire White House Press corps with the sportswriters from any midsize paper in America.
Somebody has forgotten that in this country, we are the president's boss. And that means we get to ask questions and yell at him. He is our dog, and it's either that or have him as our king. And a lot of good people died kicking a king out of this country.
Any journamalist who wants to be friends with the White House should not be allowed to write word one for money.
Goddamn do I hate Quislings.
Aye Captain, at warp 9 we're going no place in a mighty big hurry.
Someone tell me what's up in the link? Atrios ruined First Draft again...
Not even a blogger ethics panel can save the site you just nuked.
You can find Socolow as a contributor, if I read the site correctly, to "religionlink.org"
That explains a lot.
And Tena, yes, it is.
Dammit, Atrios, you killed our chinchilla. And it was such a nice one, too. 
Here's the post:
Oh, my fucking God:
The tension between the press and the government has hypertrophied to the point that neither is acting in the public interest. It is time for these two adversaries to discuss the patterns of behavior creating such rancor and frustration. Both sides must be willing to exchange and recognize legitimate criticism in an open forum. Grievances may not be easily resolved. But discussion in the spirit of inquiry rather than recrimination will initiate a more constuctive relationship.
I almost … I mean, I don't know where to start with this. Help me out here.
We live in a time of almost unprecedented co-opting of media by government. Of those who are not government tools masquerading as journalists (Karen Ryan, Armstrong Williams) other journalists (and here I use the term to encompass creatures like Tweety and Less Than Large Russ, rather than reporters who keep themselves out of this insane suck-and-fuck cocktail party) say things like "Bush is a popular president" and that they're "intimidated" by the office, so intimidated that on the eve of war they can't ask anything other than "Mr. President, what should people do? Should they pray?"
Now, it's true that the president and his allies hate the press. They hate journalism's mission, because its idealistic goals of comforting the afflicted and afflicting the comfortable interferes with their goals of looting and pillaging and painting themselves in gold leaf on every wall. That's not surprising. And it's not surprising that they'd attack the press, and that those attacks would be vicious.
What is surprising is the idea that this is somehow not the way things should be. Why, Mr. Professor of Journalism, must journalists and government agents play nicely together? You cite studies of public confidence in government and confidence in the press, but nothing that states attitudes about the one have anything to do with attitudes about the other. Both are full of crooks and decent people. There are assholes and insects in every profession and trade. What's surprising is not how much government and journalism hate each other. What's surprising is how little they do.
We need a cease-fire, this guy says. Seriously? What exactly have journalists been using as weapons in this war, pray tell? Marshmallows? Candy-coated fairy food of mass destruction? You've got to be kidding me.
We need a cease fire. I hate to tell our esteemed professor of journalism this, but we don't need a cease fire. We need a war. We need the kind of war we should have been getting from 9/12/2001 onward up until this afterfuckingnoon. We need answers, goddammit, about what's happened to our country. A cease fire is pointl
CIA prisoners in Europe were apparently abducted and moved between countries illegally, possibly with the aid of national secret services who did not tell their governments, according to the first official report on the so-called "renditions" scandal. Dick Marty, a Swiss senator investigating allegations of secret CIA prisons for the Council of Europe, said that he did not think the US was still holding prisoners in Europe, but had probably moved them to north Africa last month.
The Graun.
And didn't Sy Hersh mention to Amy Goodman that he had the real poop on this story?
Drunkee--Bush wants to treat the electorate as 'the help,' when in fact, he is 'the help.' I guess that's what happens when one imagines oneself to be a king.
Chris posted this nice piece of sarcasm in the previous thread, it's worth posting it here again
"Boy, Bob Woodward and Ben Bradlee must be rolling in their graves. What's that, they're not dead? Oh. Surely they'd be concerned about how the paper that broke Watergate has fallen. Oh. Well, then. Never mind. Perhaps they can cohost the inevitable blogger ethics conference with Len Downie. "
I can't get to the article, but I'm gonna COMMENT ANYWAY, dammit!
I think I'll go against the main flow and say that I LIKE whatever it is that happened or was said and the people who are involved are good and smell nice.
gee there's 33 % repugs, 33% dems, & 33% indies. The polls are showing 58% disagree with the repugs, so corporate media wants to increase their profits by ignoring the 58 %.
Sorry, here's the rest:
We need a cease fire. I hate to tell our esteemed professor of journalism this, but we don't need a cease fire. We need a war. We need the kind of war we should have been getting from 9/12/2001 onward up until this afterfuckingnoon. We need answers, goddammit, about what's happened to our country. A cease fire is pointless if journalism has already surrendered.
And I really don't care if that doesn't look nice on television. Of course people are going to tell you they want everything to be shiny diamonds and flowers and puppies and of course they're gonna say they want journalists to get along with the government because then they'll never have to be disturbed in any way by the information that they're being used, taken, conned and swindled. After all, if it's not on the news, it's not real, right?
Schmuck.
Someone tell me what's up in the link? Atrios ruined First Draft again...
Basically some wanker has a column in the Boston Globe saying that the press and the guvmint aren't playing nice and they need to sit down and work out their differences.
Then he goes on to relate how the radio networks in WWII basically became arms of the government and that's how it should be in times of war and crisis.
He neglects to not that chimpy ginned up this fucking war and it's a manufactured crisis and that the writer is a huge fucking wanker from hell.
I thought it was that post - a damn fine post, Athenae. Amazing stuff.
All right, my nieces will be waking me up at the buttcrack of dawn, so I'd best crash. From Frostbite Falls, night all!
Could Fitzukkah come tomorrow? More likely next week, i suppose...
Oh. I see. That's much worse.
First Draft just crashed. Glad I saved this little chestnut:
We live in a time of almost unprecedented co-opting of media by government. Of those who are not government tools masquerading as journalists (Karen Ryan, Armstrong Williams) other journalists (and here I use the term to encompass creatures like Tweety and Less Than Large Russ
Fucking WORD, A.
is symbolic of a peculiarly American dilemma: how to speak directly to the American people in times of war, national emergency, and crisis. Journalists -- then as now -- interpret the government's actions and words.
if the concerted effort were not being made to dumb down the good merkins,maybe directly talking to them would be a good thing!
the writer is a huge fucking wanker from hell
And a journamalism professsor!
Damn. I typed all that shit for nothing.
Athenae, where's your link go to; the link above returns us to the Haloscan thread.
I WANNA BE IN ON WHAT THE COOL KIDS KNOW!
Nite Sally.
More snow expected here soon. I hate cold.
most journalists I know are the worst human beings I know. They're even nastier than the advertising people.
You know what's retarded? if the press really did their job and went after these crooks it would be fucking GREAT tv.
People would tune in.
the people who are involved are good and smell nice.
Railroad Stone
that's true about athenae and tena.
holden smells like a stable.
Pop Culture: Desire and decency: Do Americans really want cleaner TV?
IN THE NORTHEAST
• Michael Socolow is director of the journalism program at Brandeis University in Waltham, Mass. As an American Studies professor, he looks at the myths, values, symbols, institutions and behavior of the American people from the perspective of a journalist.
from ReligionLink - Resources for Reporters
http://www.religionlink.org/
tip_...50118bzones.php
Hard to get too worked up over an op-ed written by a jounalism professor considered a good source for reporters by a site going by the name religionlink
I think they put an extra chinchilla in: I just got through. Try the link again.
Let's here it for the bench chinchillas! Whooo!
A.
Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald will present additional evidence to a grand jury Wednesday morning in the CIA leak case that could result in an indictment being handed up against White House Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove, sources close to the investigation told RAW STORY.
Although the grand jury’s term expires in 18 months, Fitzgerald is expected to wrap up the case as it relates to Rove before the end of the year, the sources said.
Huh.
" Could Fitzukkah come tomorrow? More likely next week, i suppose..."
how about friday of next week, a certain dec 23... merry fitzmas Karl!
most journalists I know are the worst human beings I know. They're even nastier than the advertising people.
Most Journalists are advertising people now.
I WANNA BE IN ON WHAT THE COOL KIDS KNOW!
Nah nah nahhh nah nah nahh.
Someone tell me what's up in the link? Atrios ruined First Draft again...
Thers, the Delightful
The budget would not support enough chincillas to carry an Atrios sized traffic load.
mmmm, the person who wrote that post and the person who's writing this one is a former journalist.
Why the hell do you think I'm so fucking pissed off about this crap? Every time Judith Miller opens her I'm-A-Victim yap she's pissing on my friends and the good work they do. It drives me up a goddamn tree.
A.
People would tune in.
four legs good
not sure; for a supposedly rebellious, independent-minded lot we're awfully deferent to authority. a lot of people would probably get upset over the press not showing the nice president the respect he deserves.
Why the hell do you think I'm so fucking pissed off about this crap? Every time Judith Miller opens her I'm-A-Victim yap she's pissing on my friends and the good work they do. It drives me up a goddamn tree.
Me too. I know lots of fine journalists and journalism professors.
These assholes are an embarrassment to humanity.
Most Journalists are advertising people now.
Teen LaQueefa
touché!
Yet more Socolowisms:
Rather's 23 years at the helm of the "CBS Evening News" should be considered a period of transition at best, a steady decline at worst. While it is unfair to blame Rather for not being Walter Cronkite, he should be compared with his contemporaries, Brokaw and Peter Jennings. While all three anchored programs with stronger and weaker periods immediately following the Cronkite era, the 1990s have been dominated -- in both ratings and relevance -- by "World News Tonight" on ABC and "Nightly News" on NBC.
I dunno, but you'd think a preznit with approval ratings in the 30s might be a little less comfortable.
four legs good | Email | 12.13.05 - 11:42 pm *********************
skin always fits better in a bubble
Dream Presidential Press Conference:
"I will now take questions. Cindy Sheehan, you can go first, followed by John Stewart, then Howard Dean..."
How drunk would he have to be to do that?
I got through. Those bench chinchillas have a bright and plushy future.
a lot of people would probably get upset over the press not showing the nice president the respect he deserves.
Those people are already watching Fox.
They might just lure back the sane half of the public.
Len Downie must be Senator Loserman's long lost twin.
Wanking un-American fuckers. WTF is Dowine doing in the *news* business?
These so called political reporters and editors need mandatory retirement after 5 years in DC, tops. They become part of the system AND the problem.
OK, now I can read the link...
Here's the link to the Boston Globe article that's being looked upon in Horror...
So this yap is saying the Administration's secretiveness is the media's fault, because the media is so hostile to it.
Fuck.
skin always fits better in a bubble
Aha.
Good to know.
How drunk would he have to be to do that?
Drunkee
Hahahahahahaha. Fucking fool has GOT to be hitting the bottle. Prolly brings a flask to the breakfast table.
Journamilism Ethics 101:
Go along to get along, so as not to appear shrill or unseemly.
replace the entire White House Press corps with the sportswriters from any midsize paper in America
And this is absolutely brilliant.
Here's the link to the Boston Globe article that's being looked upon in Horror...
Oh, the humanity.
Well, I think I've had all the absurdity I can handle for one day.
goodnight
it was short and sweet
and don't forget, they have files on all of you!!!
The true gee-nee-us of Socolow's article is that it wholly denies the outstanding fluffing efforts by the fuckdolls in the media while they were in the throes of their wargasm -- which *enabled* the regime to invade and occupy Iraq.
Perfesser, I don't think that's intellectually honest.
Nite Plum P
Peace out.
It's a troubling situation, bad for both democratic governance and the news industry. But the real loser is the constituency that both claim to be serving: the American people.
He got that much right.
Nite four leggers. Hug Plushy.
Nite John boy.
Nite Jim Bob.
"They've become popular because they're faster than anything else," said Michael Socolow, a former CNN assignment editor who now teaches American studies and journalism at Brandeis University.
At the same time, "blogs empower the audience," he said. "Now they don't have to rely on information being mediated by CNN or Fox News" or newspaper reporters.
These so called political reporters and editors need mandatory retirement after 5 years in DC, tops. They become part of the system AND the problem.
At my first daily paper they rotated people out of beats after six months. We hated it because we were always getting hosed from something the minute we got to know it, but it had its merits, too. People burn out or get co-opted or go nuts if they're in something too long.
A.
and don't forget, they have files on all of you!!!
Hello, Torture Czar Gonzales. May I type those notes for you?
possibly with the aid of national secret services who did not tell their governments
but I'll bet the good ole usa goes after syria for allowing their secret service to go out of control.
and don't forget, they have files on all of you!!!
Mr. Vice President, if you're reading this...
BOO!
MORAL OREL ON ADULT SWIM!!!!
and don't forget, they have files on all of you!!!
this whole blog could be a pentagon sting operation. what do we really know about this 'duncan black?' sure sounds like a spy name to me.
These so called political reporters and editors need mandatory retirement after 5 years in DC, tops. They become part of the system AND the problem.
bigvic
BAnks are smart enough not to keep the same manager in a branch so s/he doesn't get so familiar with things s/he can cook the books.
Seems like the Washington press corp could do the same thing.
Costas is funny on Colbert. He's wasted on sport. But there's certainly no place in the news department for him.
I don't see how W can be comfortable in his own skin. None of the people that have died in Iraq had to die. They died because W wanted to be a war president and see bombs explode and tracers in the night sky over Iraq. There is nothing that we might accomplish there that couldn't have been brought about without killing anyone. I don't see how he sleeps at night with that much blood on his hands. Hell, it bothers me that it is done in my name as a US citizen.
Mr. Socolow is an idiot. That he is a J-school teacher, if his ilk is at all common, partially explains the sorry state of our current scribes. I'm just sorry he teaches in Orono.
Why the hell do you think I'm so fucking pissed off about this crap? Every time Judith Miller opens her I'm-A-Victim yap she's pissing on my friends and the good work they do. It drives me up a goddamn tree.
2 of my best friends work (ed) in journalism in Chicago for years. One got a new job and the other is just getting by as a stinger these days. They are totally appaled by what passes for their profession. I agree.
"But the government is not acting in a vacuum. It is reacting to a media environment marked by enormous hostility. Skepticism is healthy, but too many journalists practice reporting informed by a pessimistic cynicism."
Yes, it's unfortunate there was so much pessimistic cynicism informing the reporting leading up to the Iraq invasion. Otherwise we might have freed the Bush administration to invade and confiscate Saddam's nukes before he wiped Dallas off of the map.
If only we hadn't been so pessimistically cynical.
When Costas guest-hosted for Larry King, he did a great job.
The Conan O'Brien interview was just a fantastic, freeform mess.
Watching the Colbert Report on CC. I love that show.
nite folks. sleep well, all.
Athenae - I'm continually in awe - you really are one of the best writers I've ever read.
Ciao, batties. Sweet dreams. I'm off to bed
By the way, here's that rare critter, an honest mainstream journo. (It helps that his paper isn't based in the Beltway.)
Longtime Strib reporter Eric Black has a rather nice new blog called The Big Question. He's running it rather like an 18th-century salon, and he's actively seeking reader input. Check it out -- it's an example of what journalism and blogging can be, when the two are melded properly.
You know, I get the feeling that a lot of these so-called journalists actually BELIEVE they are PART of the government. They like the idea of a having government-approved press pass. They love having an unofficial security clearance. They'd love a law that says they don't have to reveal a source under any circumstances even - no, especially - if the source is a high-level government official. They love attending the same cocktail parties, being on the inside (embedded as it were), and writing the official history of the administration. They suck it all up. It makes them feel self-important. It makes them feel important. It allows them to lord it over the rest of us numskulls.
"Who am I, you ask? I'm the fucking FOURTH ESTATE. See my official badge? See my official bestsellers? See me on TV every day standing in front of that official Shrine to Truth and Justice and the American Way called the White House? I am the fucking FOURTH ESTATE. Just ask Karl who the fuck I am. And who the fuck are you to ask why I do what I do? You're just a fucking citizen, so shut the fuck up."
Phoenix Woman,
Thanks for that link. Good one.
"There is no Iraq. The situation is worse than under Saddam."
Word.
Uh oh.
Mr. Plushy got caught in the rain.
Could Fitzukkah come tomorrow? More likely next week, i suppose...
wtfwjd?
Lord, he's cute. And here I thought I was almost dead.....
Nite Dan Bob
Nite Tena Ellen.
PW, we will eventually link that salonblog when we get around to updating. (finals)
Uh oh, wet plushy.
We need to get Plushy Kitty and Plushy Ferret together for a day of fluffy fun.
And Tena, aw. *blushes*
A.
Athenae, you rule.
We need to get Plushy Kitty and Plushy Ferret together for a day of fluffy fun.
Speaking of ferrets, how is your ill ferret doing?
Truly, it takes someone as enlightened as a journamalism -professor- to survey the landscape of modern reporting, and realize the problem is not that the press is fawning and credulous, but that it is too cynical.
Well. Either a journalism professor or a fucking batshit crackhead.
Welcome to Wonderland.
I don't see how he sleeps at night with that much blood on his hands. Hell, it bothers me that it is done in my name as a US citizen.
Caddo
Only way he sleeps is that he a sociopath. Really.
Athenae - I'm continually in awe - you really are one of the best writers I've ever read.
I second this motion.
Sar, back atcha.
A .
Or maybe I should be grateful that my alma mater, Brandeis exiled the excrable Mr. Socalow to UMaine. From a Justice to a Huskie. Hoom-Hom.
Well. Either a journalism professor or a fucking batshit crackhead.
I vote for batshit crazy crack head.
If you read that column, he says that the chimpy admin paying journalists is a sign of desperation... that they are desperate to get out their accurate message to the masses and those mean old cynical journalists are standing in the way.
Oh boo hooo....
four legs, the other day I got up and he was eating out of the food bowl on his own. I did the end zone dance.
He's still a little weak, so he gets soft food and extra fluids for the next couple weeks till he's back up to fighting weight, but I think the immediate danger's past. Thanks for asking.
A.
BAnks are smart enough not to keep the same manager in a branch so s/he doesn't get so familiar with things s/he can cook the books.
Seems like the Washington press corp could do the same thing.
flory
To quote Atriot, Guy, "The News Is Broken!" It certainly is.
four legs, the other day I got up and he was eating out of the food bowl on his own. I did the end zone dance.
That is excellent to hear.
Ya know, it just occurred to me that we're seeing the beginning of a pod invasion.
That's the only explanation for the number of fucking wackos in our country that makes any sense.
He's still a little weak, so he gets soft food and extra fluids for the next couple weeks till he's back up to fighting weight, but I think the immediate danger's past. Thanks for asking
Awww. Poor little old guy.
I am in awe of the stupidity.
It would be cool if the government would take $1 billion dollars a year, and built a world class independent publicly run news channel with real reporters that reported news in the field from around the world.
The UK does is with the BBC.
Canada does it with the CBC.
The U.S. has a much larger population - it could put together a real classy operation. Real journalism costs money, and it's clear that the private media has figured out that it's a lot cheaper to have a talking head than real reporters.
It will never happen though - the current system works well at keeping the masses dumb and easily controlled.
I mean honestly, a journalism professor saying this nonsense?
but I think the immediate danger's past.
Glad he's feeling better.
First Draft has sold out to Corporate America.
I've never seen so many ads in my life.
It looked like pre-guilliani new york over there.
Professor Socolow: "This is not to say that the press must abandon the critical skepticism that informs its watchdog role; nor that the government should stop promoting efforts to reach citizens directly. But the mutual antagonism has confused and angered the public."
-------------------
Homer Simpson: "Poachers are nature's way of keeping the balance. Whenever there are so many species that people get confused and angry a poacher is born."
I mean honestly, a journalism professor saying this nonsense?
four legs good
Is it really any different from Juan Cole defending Bush's strategery?
It would be cool if the government would take $1 billion dollars a year, and built a world class independent publicly run news channel with real reporters that reported news in the field from around the world.
They are not interested in independent media.
We'd get something that looked like Faux News on crack.
I mean honestly, a journalism professor saying this nonsense?
four legs good
Where's it written perfessers can't be wankers? -- cf Reynolds, Glenn.
Hey I can do this.
I can think of all kinds of clever bullshit arguments that help Bush.
I might just do it.
I think the world's lamest namestealer is back.
I can't believe these pricks. If the press had fulfilled one tenth of its most basic responsibilities, George W. Bush would've been unelectable as governor, let alone as president. The idea that the most supine press in modern memory is supposed to become MORE limp and accomodating would make me laugh, if it didn't make me want to commit murder.
you must have missed it...
it was donny graham's senior dinner. bo jones'es.
kate and ben flew up to cambridge for the event. ben was the after-dinner speaker.
1966.
now, what did ben have to say? well, he told all the crimeds how they would be taken care of by the state if they just played along, did the public relations bit.
he told us how he had trimmed the news for his good friend jfk. and how he allowed a man he despised, lbj, to cause him to trim the news.
the press sucking cocks is not a new phenomenon, you know. in the 20th century, i found woodie the first master of state-sanctioned prevarications.
and fdr was his disciple. as was harry. etc ad nauseam.
they all learned how to lie to the rubes.
nothing new, here.
what is odd is how so many think it is new.
must be children on this board.
Where's it written perfessers can't be wankers? -- cf Reynolds, Glenn.
No where.
But honestly, that displays a level of analytical skill that would embarrass lion kitty.
And he's currently licking his butt.
Where's it written perfessers can't be wankers?
you're wrong.
You have to be mentally stable to be smart.
Why the hell do you think I'm so fucking pissed off about this crap? Every time Judith Miller opens her I'm-A-Victim yap she's pissing on my friends and the good work they do. It drives me up a goddamn tree.
A.
Yep. I have 3 friends who are long time journalists and they are in despair over the state of their craft. Don't blame them.
OT:
You know what I love about the internets? They add value in so many unexpected ways. Power of the network, etc.
Twenty years ago, you could be a plane-spotter, and you'd compare notes with local groups and via monthly newsletters. Then came newsgroups. Now, you have sites tracking planes around the world.
And those innocuous planespotting sites have exposed exactly where the rendition planes have landed, in spite of governments keeping no record of their being there.
That's primary reporting, done in a way that doesn't feel like reporting. You have photos and logs and times. Triumph of the nerds.
Okay, bedtime for me for real.
But honestly, that displays a level of analytical skill that would embarrass lion kitty.
And he's currently licking his butt.
four legs good
Hee.
A far more productive activity than anything Socolow engages in.
Lion kitty's smarter too.
Oh, great.
The liberal media strikes again. Alberto Gonzales has an OP-ED calling for reauthorization of the Patriot Act.
If they were a real paper they'd tell him to put the patriot act up his ass.
Nite 4leggers.
Make sure Mr. Plushy is all dried off.
must be children on this board.
Agree, everbody in here is so ignorant.
Make sure Mr. Plushy is all dried off.
He didn't get very wet. He's just fine.
Night all.
If you read that column, he says that the chimpy admin paying journalists is a sign of desperation... that they are desperate to get out their accurate message to the masses and those mean old cynical journalists are standing in the way.
Well in that case, who cares if it's illegal? There's an old Catholic doctrine called "Occult Compensation," which allows people to right wrongs done to them by committing acts that'd normally be considered immoral.
It never really caught on. Not officially, anyway. But it sounds like this guy might be a firm believer in it.
'Sitting here wishing I could comment, having failed to link.
In the meantime, Brian Williams reported tonight that "the president is comfortable in his skin."
four legs good
Which one? They're shed all over the world...
Shorter albert
I was present at the origin.
We were having cocktails after dinner and big time told me as much.
G'night 4 legs, and all. I'm out too.
Jeebus.
Watching the Olberman repeat interview of the man who was told to pick his dead soldier son's body up in freight baggage claim. Horrific!
Athenae: do you have mod_throttle running on the FD server? It'll make life easier for the chinchilla.
I can't believe these pricks. If the press had fulfilled one tenth of its most basic responsibilities, George W. Bush would've been unelectable as governor, let alone as president.
Indeedy. The press played the game that el stupido was a serious person/candidate. Big mistake. The GOP simply saw that he had a corrupt money machine and went with the moron we are now stuck with.
Another example of the GOP party running with incompetence and cronyism over actual governing skill. They suck so fuckin hard.
It would be cool if the government would take $1 billion dollars a year, and built a world class independent publicly run news channel with real reporters that reported news in the field from around the world.
You could do a variation on the Peace Corps. Train Americans in real journalism, then send them out to the parts of the world that the networks no longer cover.
"nothing new, here.
what is odd is how so many think it is new.
must be children on this board."
albertchampion - 12:22 am
just cuz it has been done forever, does that make it right? maybe it's time for a change....
thank goodness for the INTERNETS that some real news is able to get out.
what is wrong with telling the truth?
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And so squeals the Brontosaurus on the eve of extinction.
Albert, that's some deep shit man.
OK, my little Ham Hocks of Liberty! Off to bed. Carry on with your good work of taking down the MAN.
Peace out.
I spent the longest year of my life one day with a Kari Hari. Man she was nuts... Or she had them. I can't remember which.
But what about the cocktail weenies, doesn't anybody think of the cocktail weenies?
most journalists I know are the worst human beings I know. They're even nastier than the advertising people.
When I went to the Newhouse School at Syracuse University as a freshman, I was a wannabe print journamalism major. It didn't take long to figure out that most of the print journamalism majors were douchebags, second only in douchebaggery to the broadcast journamalism majors, also known as "the BJ guys."
Let me tell you, there is no bigger douchebag than the 19-year-old wannabe Bob Costas from Parsippany with his fuckin' Dockers and anchor man haircut. One time Saint Costas was supposed to make an appearance on campus, but he canceled. You should have seen the crestfallen look on the BJ guys' faces.
I transferred to the Television/Radio/Film department with the rest of the freaks.
Watching the Olberman repeat interview of the man who was told to pick his dead soldier son's body up in freight baggage claim. Horrific!
jesus i hadnt heard about that. every time i think they cant stoop any lower...
Police Seize Forged Ballots Headed to Iraq From Iran
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/1...ast/
14iraq.html
Police Seize Forged Ballots Headed to Iraq From Iran
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/1...ast/
14iraq.html
Everyone seen this?
The Wizard of Oil.
Do they have some kind of death wish?
How can anyone just toss out such claims about the news profession without anything to back it up? Ya think you can guess who this guy voted for?
Evening all. That think is so fucked up.
Rather than hash it out here, I will offer my $.02 worth of futile bile on the subject.
Phila--
i can't get into Dkos
"DailyKos is undergoing some maintenance right now.
It'll be back up just as soon as possible."
'night, flory, bigvic. Sleep well, lovely dreams.
Okay, I have 10 minutes for a break, someone entertain me.
Sorry, that was rude and demanding. So, how are things with you all?
'night to you, too, 4LG.
FUCK DAILYKOS. HE SOLD OUT.
"DailyKos is undergoing some maintenance right now.
It'll be back up just as soon as possible."
The "Wizard of Oil" is a must see. Dood deserves some serious props for that.
FUCK DAILYKOS. HE SOLD OUT.
sarah deere
Not me, dears, as you probably know.
Going outside to smoke, now. Back later.
Marcia --
i mostly lurk --
you might like to see GWB's hotmail acct
for some entertainment
http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~shane/s...or/div/
203.html
never forget, in 1975, ben revealed most of this to the general public.
you folks must have missed it.
now, steve wants to disparage what i am relating to you....thnx, steve.
look, this bloggerdom universe is the best thing that ever happened. in the old days, do you think that i could ever have related the history of donny graham[wapo] at the harvard crimson. most unlikely.
and by the way, i essentially resigned from the crime when i became fed up with its management of the news. think on that for a moment. an independent collegiate newspaper doing the propaganda game.
anyhoo, in my experience, the press has always been a bunch of whores. fascist bastids.
in the capital city in which i grew up, there was one fascist family that governed the news. i always called their paper the columbus despot.
most publshers are fascist bastids, don't you know. surely this isn't news to this audience.
is it news to you steve?
anyhoo, i wrote a thesis on this state/press orchestrated propaganda. a very corrosive experience.
and i have been a cynical curmudgeon ever since.
the worst aspect of what i learned is this...
virtually everything you learn from the "legit" press is a bit of propaganda.
there is so much i could relate. but, had you been reading my posts, you would know most of it by now.
suffice it so say, the state is an inveterate prevaricator. controlled by special interests. the press is one of those special interests.
and that is the way it is. that is the way it always has been.
we could talk about PM. which the state snuffed. we could talk about george seldes, izzie stone.
but when you talk about time, newspeak, wapo, nyt, abc, cbs, nbc, fauxs as something other than agitprop agencies, then you have missed the facts.
Okay, I have 10 minutes for a break, someone entertain me. ~ Sorry, that was rude and demanding. So, how are things with you all? Marcia Brady ∞
Have joo ever seen a gato do the how-joo-say " Shuffle-off-too-Buffalo"?
(shuffle shuffle shuffle shuffle shuffle shuffle shuffle shuffle)
wait for eet...
¡Jazz Hands!
so.
Hi Marcia. How goes the end of semester fun?
you might like to see GWB's hotmail acct
for some entertainment
shycat
Too funny!
¡Jazz Hands!
so.
¡El Gato Negro!
Bravo! [clap, clap, clap]
How goes the end of semester fun?
flory
I'm writing about how O'Donnell believes everyone is so ethnocentric about defining democratic consolidation.
Asleep yet?
¡Jazz Hands!
so.
¡El Gato Negro!
el Gato -- if I were feline, I'd marry you.....
I'm writing about how O'Donnell believes everyone is so ethnocentric about defining democratic consolidation.
I have no idea what you just said.
But its late and I've had most of a bottle of wine.
"Focus on the Feline" announces Tabby Tote
word
"Focus on the Feline" announces Tabby Tote
shycat
Hee.
I have no idea what you just said.
flory
Trust me, I'm not sure that it's that important. Just more mental masturbation engaged in by people who mainly write for one another.
Although that's kind of unfair in the case of Guillermo O'Donnell. He actually does things in the real world.
I'm just tired of theory. Reminds me of so much wanking.
I'm out.
It is tiring being outraged.
I think I'd rather be drunk.
I think I'd rather be drunk.
David (Austin Tx)
Easier on the blood pressure, harder on the liver.
Easier on the blood pressure, harder on the liver.
flory
I believe that livers are overrated.
I'm just tired of theory. Reminds me of so much wanking.
Marcia Brady
But all those liberal elitist academics have to justify their existence somehow, n'est pas?
The reason HL Mencken had fascist and social darwinist sympathies
is because he never finished college.
Easier on the blood pressure, harder on the liver.
flory
I got rid of that old bothersome thing ages ago. Actually, 5 years ago I think. Well, that's when I stopped worrying about it anyway.
In the meantime, Brian Williams reported tonight that "the president is comfortable in his skin."
I'm glad to hear that: I understand those new host bodies sometimes take a bit of breaking-in.
But its late and I've had most of a bottle of wine.
flory
Lightweight....
albert, forgive me for asking,but I must: how old a curmodgeon are you?
(Being one, myself)
OK -- I had a post up here two minutes ago and now its gone.
And I didn't call anybody bad names.
Haloscan discriminates against middle aged females.
I protest.
But all those liberal elitist academics have to justify their existence somehow, n'est pas?
flory
I guess. It's almost over, though. I'm going to take a semester off and work so I can actually do some fun things before I die.
Unrelated, but why can't the trolls be more detail oriented?
Lightweight....
Sarah Deere
Hey, now!
No need to be calling people names.
Marica -- how much more time do you have to put in for the degree?
And what will you be doing next semester?
Hi, Barry.
How's my friend the stoopit Corvair?
Stoopit Corvair is a bit chilly tonight, got him plugged in for the evening.
He appreciates you asking.
how much more time do you have to put in for the degree?
And what will you be doing next semester?
flory
5 more semesters. I will be going back to secretarying as soon as someone will have me. I'm hoping for NYU.
Just saying. Katherine Graham, or rather Katherine Graham's autobiography, Personal History, is a key Neocon text. She's underestimated. She's smart in a southern debutante social battleship goes beltway fashion. It's unclear if she participated in Philip Graham's government work but throughout her autobiography she implies that she's doing government work. You know, just a part of the business of journalism, partying with Kissinger and the programmers from Phil's satellite project. (No kidding. Philip Graham, apparently both took acid in public and organized an early corporate/DoD/CIA satellite imaging program.) Point is the politics behind Personal History, which is anything but and nothing more, is largely Neocon. Her fluid account of the role of political power influencing media power influencing think tanks creating headlines causing wars to settle political power disputes, whew, is pure neocon policy in practice. In short. I'm surprised she doesn't show up more as a primary neocon, um, thinker. Atrios, a few years ago, quoted her at length. Unfortunately, PH reviews focused on Graham's geriatric chicklit style and/or celebrities and neglected to fact check Graham. The most interesting part of PH is the neocon core--and if Graham ran a widespread covert operation focused on using the WaPo/IHT/Newsweek/etc. empire to influence foreign governments, purely as a black budget contractor, and with the very best intentions, well, even if that was all it was, then there's no way the current administration hasn't picked up the pieces.
Just came to mind after realizing that ac above is right about Ben Bradlee baring his soul pod.
Hey, now!
No need to be calling people names.
flory
the president is comfortable in his skin.
and the question would be...how can he possibly...???
And, perhaps, the answer is: he hasn't a thought in his head, except that he may be hungry, he may need to take a dump, he may be cold, he may be too warm.
Beyond that, he waits for God To Speak Through him.
Christ in sable underpants.
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I will be going back to secretarying as soon as someone will have me. I'm hoping for NYU.
Marcia Brady
And one semester of that will prolly have you happy to get back to school.
Christ in sable underpants.
Sarah Deere
Sounds.....itchy.
But you could prolly sell NTodd on the concept.
And one semester of that will prolly have you happy to get back to school.
flory
Or looking to marry a rich 80-year-old...
the president is comfortable in his skin.
Sociopaths are always comfortable in "their own skins".
The cat's aren't playing fair with the dogs here tonight.
The cat's aren't playing fair with the dogs here tonight.
Barry from Alaska
Heh, like a dog ever needed an excuse.
Do you actually live in Alaska?
Yep, right in South Anchorage.
Or looking to marry a rich 80-year-old...
Marcia Brady
Or one a them.
But I've been looking for awhile now. They're thin on the ground.
The cat's aren't playing fair with the dogs here tonight.
Barry from Alaska
Cats ARE lots smarter than dogs.
Sounds.....itchy.
But you could prolly sell NTodd on the concept.
flory
Gosh, and here I thought it would just be soft and furry......
Maybe I should have stipulated Christ in beaver fur undies.....
That should be enough to brinbg on a snark or two or three.
Don't forget, dears: wish GWB bleeding, itching hemorrhoids, 24/7/365, so he becomes so irritable he throws a world class fit on live tee vee.
Then we have him nailed.
Cats ARE lots smarter than dogs.
flory
I think most everyone here would agree with that, especilly El Gato Negro.
That should be enough to brinbg on a snark or two or three.
We're such a predictable lot, aren't we.
Don't forget, dears: wish GWB bleeding, itching hemorrhoids, 24/7/365, so he becomes so irritable he throws a world class fit on live tee vee.
Can we toss in ingrown toenails and gum disease as well?
Can we toss in ingrown toenails and gum disease as well?
flory
If you did that, every commerciall during the nightly news would be targeted at him.
Can we toss in ingrown toenails and gum disease as well?
flory
If you did that, every commerciall during the nightly news would be targeted at him.
I think most everyone here would agree with that, especilly El Gato Negro.
Barry from Alaska
Glad GWPDA and Echidne aren't around though.
Or looking to marry a rich 80-year-old...
Marcia Brady
Or one a them.
But I've been looking for awhile now. They're thin on the ground.
flory
I actually had, as a fairly decent-looking 23 yrd old, an offer to marry someone in their late 70s.
I just couldn't do it.
I knew what they wanted, what they expected, and it nauseated me.
I hated them for even asking - that they thought their wealth would matter.
"The tension between the press and the government has hypertrophied to the point that neither is acting in the public interest. It is time for these two adversaries to discuss the patterns of behavior creating such rancor and frustration."
Can we give up now? I mean, not to sound defeatist, but if this is what they are teaching at journalism schools (Michael Socolow is at UofMaine), then what is the FUCKING POINT!!!!
Tell me, what is the point of cataloging the atrocities?
I hated them for even asking - that they thought their wealth would matter.
Sarah Deere
Really, I was just kidding. My cut-off age is 78.
Barry, is Anchorage beautiful?
Good for you Sarah.
Young women that marry rich men don't count in my book.
I tell them that to their face.
It's stupid, make your own fucking life.
"Have you read the bible?"
"Maybe I have, maybe I haven't, what's it to you?"
"Can you read, my son?"
"Well, that depends. Can you go fuck yourself?"
Can we toss in ingrown toenails and gum disease as well?
flory
flory - YES!!!!!
and jock itch and ingrown hairs and toenails. And eczema (sp?) and halitosis and toenail fungus. Hiccups. Dandruff.
Pimples.
Toothache. Diverticulitis. Long black hairs growing out of his nose.
Birds pooping on his head. Stepping in dosgshit in extreme-tread shoes.
Random boils.
Nothing lethal - just humiliating - and irritating - aggravations.
One after the other, ad infinitum. Amen.
I actually had, as a fairly decent-looking 23 yrd old, an offer to marry someone in their late 70s.
Can I just say.....ewwwww?
At 23 the idea is perverse.
At my age its only mildly twisted. And I can live with that.
Is Anchorage beautiful?
It's pretty darn nice Marcia, not really Alaska but you can see it from here. (old joke) I do get moose in the yard all year long, and I live in the city, I can't think of another town where you can go salmon fishing just blocks from downtown.
Summer's here are awesome, way too much stuff to do.
Winter's are dark, but not as bad as most people seem to think.
Really, I was just kidding. My cut-off age is 78.
Barry, is Anchorage beautiful?
Marcia Brady
Bullshit 
Oh, Sarah.
I love the way your mind works.
my age isn't that important.
i was born during the advent of the national security state.
prior to the invasion of korea. and i shall never forget being in the counselors' sanctum in a camp in maine when lbj exercised his gulf of tonkin fiction.
and as i have related in prior posts, over many months, from 1958......i had the great privilege to encounter the warriors of the secret state in the gulf coastal usa.
i really won't have anyting to do with dia or the menil museum in houston. jean de menil, dominique's husband, don't you know, functioned as an agent of the state. schlumberger was a cover for the secret state. but of course, all of you know that.
sure you do.
i could relate so much more. but why. who really wants to learn about the facts that demtillians=reptillians.
most astonishing to me is that there are still those out there that think there is some competition. NOT.
and some are on this board.
it all reminds me of two women that i encountered in LA prior to the last election. very wealthy. very political. very demtillian. lawyers. i think that they were after my checkbook.
they insisted that john kerry was the best candidate to defeat george bush.
i told them that they were nuttier than fruitcakes. that kerry was a fraud. that the american people would best be served by advancing the candidacy of dennis kucinich. saying that, it was as if i had shit in the soup.
needless to say, the meets ended. i never gave a dime to the dem boner. nor will i ever contribute to a party that lionizes this bozo, and his buddy, joe lieberman.
there has to be another way.
if not, what do you know about corse? sardegna?
Later peoples.
So much for feminism.
I won't hunt for a job, I'll hunt for a man.
and jock itch and ingrown hairs and toenails. And eczema (sp?) and halitosis and toenail fungus. Hiccups. Dandruff.
Pimples.
Toothache. Diverticulitis. Long black hairs growing out of his nose.
Birds pooping on his head. Stepping in dosgshit in extreme-tread shoes.
Random boils.
Nothing lethal - just humiliating - and irritating - aggravations.
I had to read back, these are things you are wishing for GWB. I thought for a minute you were listing traits you wanted your 80 year old man to have.
Phew, ... glad I figured that out.
Summer's here are awesome, way too much stuff to do.
I can attest to this. 4th of July in Alaska is an experience.
Winter's are dark, but not as bad as most people seem to think.
Barry from Alaska
I wouldn't mind the dark and the cold. The nonstop summer sun might send me over the edge, though.
albertchampion is single.
and rich.
there ya go!
Can I just say.....ewwwww?
At 23 the idea is perverse.
At my age its only mildly twisted. And I can live with that.
flory
well, yeah.
But, even now, I don;t want to hook up w/someone who reminds me of Strom Thurmond, until I get to be that age.
Men are SO weird. They believe, because they can reproduce themselves indefinitely (a clear sign that we have not progressed one whit, genetically speaking), that they are prennially "attractive". They are not - they are just fertile enough to produce probably defective offspring.
that they are prennially "attractive". They are not - they are just fertile enough to produce probably defective offspring.
Sarah Deere
Wasn't Tony Randall something like 75 when he had his first child? That is a bit on the wacky side.
Phew, ... glad I figured that out.
Barry from Alaska
hee hee...me,too!!!!
Albert, it matters to me. How old are you? WHy in the world would you not respond to such a simple question?
They believe, because they can reproduce themselves indefinitely (a clear sign that we have not progressed one whit, genetically speaking), that they are prennially "attractive".
And most of 'em owe that to the little blue pill.
Should make the pill the attractive one, you ask me.
Wasn't Tony Randall something like 75 when he had his first child? That is a bit on the wacky side.
Marcia Brady
yeah, I thought so. Much more about the father than the child, eh? Not quite the originally intended purpose of it all.
Wasn't Tony Randall something like 75 when he had his first child? That is a bit on the wacky side.
Marcia Brady
And Clint Eastwood.
Its not just wacky its downright cruel to the kid.
Don't get much of a chance to get to know dear old dad.
HICA!
.
I wish I was single and rich
or married and rich
or married not so poor..,
butt I am what I yam
And most of 'em owe that to the little blue pill.
Should make the pill the attractive one, you ask me.
flory
but, flory, it's making some of them BLIND.
Why would they take something that might blind them???????????????
I mean - jesus fucking chee-rist, what's a hard-on worth? Your eyesight?????
Hey JP!
How goes life in the borg?
I mean - jesus fucking chee-rist, what's a hard-on worth? Your eyesight?????
Sarah Deere
Apparently.
That whole identity=virility thingie.
Men are weird.
Sarah Deere has her 80th birthday approaching.
Any plans for a party?
Y'know, Hugo Chavez gets to deal with a truly, openly hostile press every day. Hell, some members of the private press even admitted to assisting the coup plotters in 2002 on live Venezuelan TV! (See: The Revolution Will Not Be Televised, documentary made by British Marxists about the coup, but the clips must still be seen to be believed. and the Busheviki openly supported the autocrats behind the coup...)
When Chimpy McFuckwit has to deal with people calling for his overthrow and murder in most of the major media organs on a daily basis, and doesn't retaliate through strongarming or show trials, get back to me.
after searching the Internets I have learned a few things
a)Tyco is overpricing their RC toys
b)buying direct from a toy wholesaler in units of 1 is a good thing
c)the walkera/dragonfly mini rc helicopter is pretty cool
d)all of the above
Men are weird.
Atriots excepted.
Sarah Deere has her 80th birthday approaching.
Any plans for a party?
JEffCO |
goddammit, I hope I make it that far. Thanks for your vote of confidence.
I would like chocolate (actually, devil's food) cake with vanilla buttercream icing.
Thanks.
Don't get much of a chance to get to know dear old dad.
flory
Exactly. It's bad enough when a child loses a parent unexpectedly, but to accept it as a given in your beloved child's experience? A little selfish.
If you desire a child so late in life, how about adopting one that already exists.
radio control toys, what's not to like?
Men are weird.
Atriots excepted.
flory
I don't know. I just think their particular weirdness is charming.
Mark Bialkowski , why in the world would you want it to get that far, that you don't want to be notified (become involved) until that happens, is very strange to me.
Memo: To sallyh
From: flory
Re: SD's 80th birthday
She would like devils food cake with vanilla buttercream frosting.
Please file this for future reference.
Blue pill worthy? Spongeworthy?
All so confusing to someone not in NTodd's brain.
If you desire a child so late in life, how about adopting one that already exists.
Marcia Brady
Where's the immortality in that?
This all has to do with the impending end of existence and a desire to continue on.
The genetics are key.
radio controlled torture:
PARIS, Dec. 13 - Europe's chief investigator looking into allegations about the existence of secret C.I.A. prisons said today that preliminary evidence suggested that American agents had kidnapped people and illegally transferred them between countries.
Dick Marty, who leads an investigation for the 46-country Council of Europe, sharply criticized the United States as failing to come clean on the allegations, notably during a five-day visit by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice to Europe last week. But he also said he believed that there was some degree of collaboration from European officials.
Men seem weird to women, women seem weird to men. It is ever thus, and has been forever. It is our job to understand this and to get along and love one another, even if we can't understand one another completely.
I know this sounds like bullshit, but you know it's true.
All so confusing to someone not in NTodd's brain.
Barry from Alaska
flory: How goes life in the borg?
Not good! I want to quit, but just can't seem to do so.
It's the death my 1000 duck bites at this place. It's a Chinese garment sweatshop, staffed with Americans, and selling PCs instead of t-shirts.
I swear, I am losing it.
.
radio control toys, what's not to like?
Mrs. Ibrahim al-jafaari
The cat would disagree.
Can you really get just one at a wholesale price?
Mark Bialkowski , why in the world would you want it to get that far, that you don't want to be notified (become involved) until that happens, is very strange to me.
Figure of speech related to the article that started this thread--if whatshisface thinks American media is hostile to Bush (in what parallel universe???), he should get a load of what other countries get to deal with.
All so confusing to someone not in NTodd's brain.
Barry from Alaska
But I don't think that's a place you ever want to go, do you?
The genetics are key.
flory
I never did understand that. My family has always been rather sewn together. I guess I'm missing the genetics "gene."
Well said whoever so.
I know this sounds like bullshit, but you know it's true.
Sarah Deere
Of course its true.
But men are still weird.
And if a girl can't whine about it here, where can she?
But I don't think that's a place you ever want to go, do you?
Didn't some guy named Dante already write an article or essay about it?
Not good! I want to quit, but just can't seem to do so.
You need to get some savings built back up before you take that leap.
Figure of speech related to the article that started this thread--if whatshisface thinks American media is hostile to Bush (in what parallel universe???), he should get a load of what other countries get to deal with.
Mark Bialkowski
Geez, even the British media made Tony Blair sweat. Is there another democratically consolidated country on earth with such a lapdog media as ours? Not being snarky, just really would like to know...
I swear, I am losing it.
.
Jeffraham Prestonian
Are you looking around for something else?
I guess I'm missing the genetics "gene."
Marcia Brady
I don't think it has anything to do with 'family' -- a network of love and support. No genetics necessary there.
It has to do with immortality -- knowing that some genetic version of you will continue on after you're dead.
Didn't some guy named Dante already write an article or essay about it?
Barry from Alaska
Prescient bastard, wasn't he?
flory
yeah, there are a lot of wholesalers who have figured out a url is just as good as 100 units to that store in Peoria....
shopzilla is our friend. and having 9 nephews and nieces, is a godsend to the impoverished.
And if a girl can't whine about it here, where can she?
flory |
Other than curled into a fetal position between the mattress and box springs, sucking her thumb, I don't know.
Guess this would be the place.
SD
knowing that some genetic version of you will continue on after you're dead.
flory
I understand the theory, but I don't get the feeling. How does someone else's existence make one immortal. Alexander the Great is still known and thought of and written about, but he is still dead and doesn't know anything about it. I'm just self-absorbed enough to figure if I'm going to be immortal, I'd like to be around to enjoy it.
awright batties -- i was up til the wee small hours last night chatting with the very late night/early morning crew and i'm sleepy.
so off to bed with me.
stay warm and dry -- and marcia -- you have a paper to write.
nite all......
G'nite flory. Be warm.
I understand the theory, but I don't get the feeling.
Its a guy thing.
I said they were weird.
Now I'm really going.
I swear, I am losing it.
.
Jeffraham Prestonian
Jeff, goddammit - don't let these people get you down.
I, myself, cleaned houses (the toilets of the privileged) for 10 yrs until 1996, when my back gave out and I went back into the Fold. Two yrs corporate stuff (for which I am both tragically and comically ill-suited), until I finally found my home in academia - a teaching hospital - and for the last 8 yrs, I have been happy as a clam, whatever that means.
Flory - dream well.
Blessings on your head.
Is there another democratically consolidated country on earth with such a lapdog media as ours?
Italy comes to mind, but that's a bit of an anomaly since the prime minister happens to own a sizable chunk of that country's media outlets.
Oddly enough, the state-funded media in Canada and Britain at times find themselves accused of trying too hard to distance themselves from the government--such as in the aftermath of the Hutton Report in Britain. Oddly enough, one of the Beeb's opponents in Britain, especially vocal during that controversy, is Rupert Murdoch, owner of satellite broadcaster BSkyB. Yes, that Rupert Murdoch.
What good is privately-run media when their owners and employees are perfectly willing to act as paid propagandists for individuals in power? Shit, you could remove "privately-run" from that sentence and come up with a question equally applicable to Soviet Russia and Neoconservative America. Even Pravda ran critical editorials once in a while, when that criticism was approved by someone in authority...
WASHINGTON, Dec. 13 - As part of what they are calling "law enforcement week," conservative backers of Judge Samuel A. Alito Jr. began circulating an Internet advertisement on Tuesday defending the judge's argument that the police were justified in strip-searching the young daughter of a man suspected of dealing drugs.
Aw, well, here's the scoop.
I think they'll fire me, actually.
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Jeff, if they fire you, they are idiots.
Truly.
SD
Mrs. Ibrahim al-jafaari
Alito....jeebus.
the judge's argument that the police were justified in strip-searching the young daughter of a man suspected of dealing drugs.
Mrs. Ibrahim al-jafaari
Reading this suddenly made me remember a passage from the book Bodies of Law:
Perhaps the most interesting aspect of the legal vagina is the extent to which it is constituted by its relations with other people. This truly sets it apart form other legal bodies that represent individuals isolate from each other, suchs as the rectums of detainees in the Tombs, which can also be searched, but which are not characteristically constituted in relation to others. The construction, I believe, reflects a traditioal view of women as less individualized, ore the function of all the vectors of their relationships, than are men.
Because the Milwaukee police had a tip that Robert Salinas had heroin with him as he returned with his family in his car from a trip to Texas, their arrest warrent for him was valid, and so were their their body cavity searches of his wife Carolyn and four of their children, all under ten.
Mr. Jeffraham, start looking for something better now, and all good luck. You will be happier.
I guess fake phila and fake JEffCO went to bed. Really, the quality of trolling really drops off around hear after hours!
Good night, and don't dream of Alito body-cavity searches if you can help it.
Because the Milwaukee police had a tip that Robert Salinas had heroin with him as he returned with his family in his car from a trip to Texas, their arrest warrent for him was valid, and so were their their body cavity searches of his wife Carolyn and four of their children, all under ten.
Marcia Brady ∞
Unfortunately, there are some monsters who would, indeed, hide their contraband in the body cavities of their children.
This is not something new, that we are all subjected to laws designed for the least common denominator among us.
But is does continue to be a shame to us all.
Anyway, goodnight, sweetlings.
Sleep tight, surcease from bedbugs.
Man, JP, that sucks.
Kinda like my work, the only ones held accountable are the minions.
Man, JP, that sucks.
Kinda like my work, the only ones held accountable are the minions.
needless to say, the meets ended. i never gave a dime to the dem boner. nor will i ever contribute to a party that lionizes this bozo, and his buddy, joe lieberman.
there has to be another way.
if not, what do you know about corse? sardegna?
ALBERTCHAMPION |
You'd rather give your money to lying, murdering, thieving, braincell deficient repukes such as yourself.
Thanks to all for the support. I'm too tired and beat down tonight to be much of a participant, unfortunately, and 10:00a will come far too soon for my liking...
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you can figure out my age easily. within a range.
an interesting day. lobster 50 arrived.
a great reminisence of the paris review and its ownership by the outfit.
i love the fact that things i posted here some months ago finally get confirmed.
george plimpton was a spook. so was peter.
always important to recognize how thoroughly the state was f*cking with you.
how many other journals does the secret state run, do you think? how many blogs?
is this one of them?
how would you know?
the story of ethiopia is of great interest. i always thought that the george hw bush invasion of somalia was a templar sortie, using somalia as the entree into ethiopia, seeking the arc of the covenant.
perhaps his son's invasion of iraq, figures similarly. and that being the case, you can see how john kerry was just a stooge for the lodge.
most of what you think you know, you don't know.
oh, and phil,,,,,,not wealthy enough. still have to work everyday to keep it, to keep the wolves away.
oh, and phil,,,,,,not wealthy enough. still have to work everyday to keep it, to keep the wolves away.
albertchampion
So you're trying to stay away from yourself?
Is the Pentagon spying on Americans?
Secret database obtained by NBC News tracks ‘suspicious’ domestic groups
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10454316/
i don't have to give it to myself, i already have it.
what a twit you are.
Pentagon spying on Americans
AC, sounds like the good old vietnam days, doesn't it?
you can figure out my age easily. within a range.
You know, I believe you, find you more than credible - but, Jesus, sometimes you are too precious by halves.
There has to be one question you can answer directly and truthfully. Or, close enough.
SD
Good night, good morning, all.
And, so, to bed.
how odd that you would say that, doug
i have been ruminating on that lingering infestation of the evil empire for some hours today.
i had this meeting today with my insurance agent. a truly great guy. a warrant officer in the nam. a chopper jock. we are not on the same side of the political fence, he is a republican for some reason, but we have never disagreed about the bushits.
for the last 5-10 years he has been the victim of the strangest manifestations of disease. when it first started, i asked him if he had ever been involved with the agents that us forces sprayed upon the seasian countries that we invaded.
so odd, today when i entered his office, the first thing that he said was, "how did you know?"
i responded, what was he talking about. and he threw in front of me a package of va docs that he had received today that indicated that his disabilities were probably the result of exposure to agent orange.
i wanted to take the docs away with me so as to copy them. but he was terrified by that.
after all these years, he admitted to me that he had flown a huey outfitted with spray gear: that he had sprayed biowarfare agents all over seasia during his time in country.
he identfied his exposure to agent orange. when i told him, yeah and agents white, black, purple, etc. he didn't argue that he dispersed all kinds of neurotoxins. from his huey.
the interesting aspect of this is that his disability is adult-onset diabetes.
i shall return to that at a later date. i think that there is more here than meets the casual scrutiny.
Hrumph, adult onset diabetes, is caused by the loss of insulin receptors throughout the body, almost as if they were burnt out
and sarah dear,
how precisely do you want to know my age?
on previous posts, i have stated that my library started with the implementation of my birth, truman's enactment of the national security act....summer, 1947.
this is the act that created the postwar secret state. the national security agency. the central intelligence agency. and other entities that still are unrevealed.
harry truman. one of the greatest gangsters that ever ascended to the presidency.
i know, the conventional wisdom is that harry was a great guy. what a load of crap.
so, sarah, now you know. i was born in 1947. and i am suffering one of the infirmities of old age. i blew out my knee before thanksgiving. using a cane. and i am not happy about this.
old age and injuries suck!
what i really hate is that my nieces keep calling to tell me how much they are missing me, will i be making it to LA for christmas?
who knows. but few uncles are as lucky as i am. the twerpettes are lovely individuals. my sister and brother in law have done a great job. and i like to think that my mom[before her demise] and i assisted.
everyone should be as fortunate.
same way i feel about my business. i never forget that i am surrounded by some of the most loyal, most intelligent, most capable individuals on this planet.
and every day, i thank the diety who caused me to be an individual that attracted these other individuals.
i know of no finer human beings.
enough said.
AC, the good news is if your knee can not get any better on it's on, partial and total joint replacements work. The biggest problem is the longevity of this work. With careful use (no ski slopes or hockey games for the sane) they last longer, though if you are around 58, you probobly could expect to get at least one more replacement besides the orginal, if you live a long time.
One of the mightiest forces in human nature is laziness - what, in the 7 Deadly Sins is called "Sloth".
Real journalism, real reporting, involves long hours, constant digging, going about for personal interviews, much frustration - in a word, it's work.
To be a government 'mouth', you get the morning's faxes of the official story, write it up in an hour or two, send it to the copydesk, and the rest of the day's yours - and the night's cocktail party a bonus.
i'd rather be a propagandist than a journalist, if all we're talking about is pay, perks, and dodging effort. Signing your name to the Party line for an upper-middle class to upper class salary (plus various bennies) is a great deal to lots of those who know the price of all and the value of nothing.
In short, it's not conviction that drives this train, it's the drive to 'win the game' by having a good scam, the same as all those the 'reporter' meets daily - and envies.
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