I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Damn it, someone post something!
post post post
how's that animus?
How I feel about the Bush administration.
I get a bit nervous when I'm the first on a thread.
No need to worry, I'm here.
Listening and watching.
Illegal wire taps. Nada.
Bush wired during the debates. Nada.
Deserting TANG. Whitewash.
But, they sure did cover the Swift Boat Liars well. Gave them pages and pages of ink. Must have been something to that story for the NY Times to have devoted so much ink to it.
Drive by Hi, Moonbats
The Liberal New York Times. BWHAHAHAH BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
all journalists are liberal when they are criticizing conservatives or even when pointing out "facts" for that matter.
and good morning, happy bats!
The Liberal New York Times has a goatee.
and god forbid, they should be accused of being liberal, because god knows, it is like having leprosy.
"FindLaw columnist and former counsel to the president John Dean decries the Bush Administration's attempt to block limits on the U.S.'s ability to torture prisoners. Dean details and comments on Senator McCain's proposed provisions relating to torture, and argues that the Administration's position on these proposals is a low point in American history -- comparing it to other much-criticized presidential stances. Dean also takes on the famous "ticking time bomb" argument for torture. "
This really is disheartening, isn't it? I mean the President authorizing lawless behavior. The president putting himself above the law. Where have we seen this before?
QL and I are old enough to remember why the law was passed that forbid spying on Americans by the government without a court order. These people have used this more egregiously than even paranoid Nixon.
But what is really scary is the fact that they may actually admit breaking the law and getting away with it.
America - death of the dream
Think I see why brown was retained on payroll,
Executive privilege. He can't be called to criminal(perhaps civi?) proceedings in cases against the executive branch while so retained.
It would 'impeded his ability to do his appointed job and give full candor in his advisory role, should it occur...'
Heaven forbid they force Drownie to be worse than he already is...
"The law then goes on to note a key exemption from FACA: It does not cover "any committee that is composed wholly of full-time, or permanent part-time, officers or employees of the Federal Government." In other words, FACA does not require openness when it comes to meetings attended by government employees alone. "
Under that ruling it's obvious that Ken Lay is still retained as an employee of the USA. Should his indictment and bail waive this? Is it possible that the FOIA requests can be filed once more and succeed?
I dunno if anyone remembers this movie, Absence of Malice with Paul Newman, Sally Field, and Wilfred Brimley, but I think we need Wilfred Brimley to come in and lay down the law. Newspapers and media: do your job. President- resign. Congress - do your job. Courts: do you job.
But where can we find someone to make everything work again?
I just don't think anything could suprise me now DWD...
But where can we find someone to make everything work again?
my $'s on fitz.
please goddess.
We need a hero....
If there were any honest repukes, this guy would have been thrown out of office months ago. They are all willing to put power through party above honor. This is not politics as usual. Much as they like to spin it that way. Watch now, they will only admit to spying on people with ME sounding names. Will anyone interview the Quakers that they have been spying on?
Actually (and a belated Frohe Beethovens Geburtstag to everyone) it seems that Congress is suddenly less likely to cavil to the President.
We seem to be minus one Patriot Act this morning (thank you, St. Russ) and we may no longer be insisting on the right to torture.
they always accuse the dems of trying to "politicize" when they are called on their bullshit. but it is perfectly ok for them to politicize. the same rules no longer apply to everyone.
they've got the power, and they intend to keep it, by any means necessary.
and that includes using the press.
Add the total lask of coverage given to Jimmy/Jeff to that list. Could you imagine if a male prostitute had been given free reign to roam the WH when Clinton was in office?
We can't depend on one person to get us out of this quagmire. Fitz is wonderful, but he can only be the catalyst. Our elected officials have to step up and do the right thing.
using the press is the modus opperandi(sp?)
hopefully enough of them will be in fear of their positions in 06 to do so, ql.
QL, yep. The Quakers have always bothered the Republicans. If I remember correctly that was the straw that broke the camel's back the first time.
I guess it is perception. When I read of the Society of Friends and see what they do and how they believe: I admire them. I don't always agree with them, but that does not lessen my opinion of them. The Republicans see them living the word of God and they are embarassed and shamed: their reaction then is jealousy and hatred.
Different reactions: I wish I could be more like them, they perceive them as enemies of the United States.
Live and learn I guess.
at what point do we trash 'hail to the chief' to 'Sig Heil! Sig Heil!'?...
We need a hero...
We look to the left and to the right
We need help but nobody's in sight
Where is the man that we all need
Well tell him he's to come and rescue me
Well, should I go make the coffee and stay and visit or go back to bed? Question questions.
Did anyone else see Tom Brokaw on Tweety last night apologizing for the breaking of the law by the President - talk about shooting your credibility in the foot.
I didn't see Tweety, but I watched part of Lehrer's interview with w and his pointy ears. Mr. QL posits that w's ears get more pointy with lie he tells. I just think he is the devil. At any rate, all these stories we have all half discounted as being too far beyond the pale seem to be true. W said he had heard there was problem, and so called some underling in to look into it, then the underling reported back that everything was okey dokey and that was enough for our MBA prez. Good lord. Based on this idiots understanding, over 30,000 people, that we know about, have lost their lives. He really is the devil.
Having been raised a Quaker I can tell you, they are a dangerous bunch. Don't forget the Quakers were the abolitionists. I don't think we have ever been forgiven that.
i watched part of that as well, ql.
i always think: "well, this is the stupidest thing he's ever said."
and then he tops himself, and says something even stupider.
Good company won out, I am staying for two cups of coffee cause the companies is so pleasant.
Did I hear that that snake Lindsey Graham managed to insert a provision into the no torture bill that would allow torturing by non-American citizens? (A loophole large enough to drive a truck through?)
As for Bush being the devil, we shall ultimately be judged on what we do, not what we say. The more he protests that we do not do things, the more the proof mounts that we do.
We seem to be minus one Patriot Act this morning (thank you, St. Russ) and we may no longer be insisting on the right to torture.
bad Jim - 5:54 am
Uhhhh.
The big print giveth. The small print taketh away.
Reuters
Congressional negotiators worked out the final details on Friday of a bill that bans torture of detainees in U.S. custody, but also allows evidence obtained by coercion to be used against prisoners at Guantanamo Bay.
Rights groups said the amendment was a step backward and would weaken enforcement of McCain's protections at Guantanamo
Tom Malinowski of Human Rights Watch said the amendment "leaves Guantanamo detainees no legal recourse if they are, in fact, tortured or mistreated." He said the amendment would effectively permit use of evidence obtained by torture.
"As big as the story was yesterday on the success of McCain, the losses for the United States on the torture issue with the (Lindsey) Graham changes are just as big if not bigger," said Christopher Anders of the American Civil Liberties Union.
its all so easy. this country is based on fuckin greed and as long as dip shits make piles of money for doing dip shit this shit will continue. you expect people like tweety and keeler to give you the facts?
if you wish to live in this country, just bend over and take it cause it aint going to change.
Lindsey Graham can meet the Hague in time...
This is the recipe for the best cinnamon rolls I have ever had. I made them yesterday and am enjoying one as we speak. I HIGHLY recommend them - once in a blue moon. That much fat and sugar cannot be good for anyone. (I sent half of them over to to Tom-the lawyer who literally will do anything for them)
Cinnamon Rolls
Ingredients:
Dough:
2 pkg. active dry yeast
1 C. warm water (105-115 degree)
2/3 C. plus 1 tsp. granulated sugar, divided
1 C. warmed milk
2/3 C. butter
2 tsp salt
2 eggs, slightly beaten
7-8 C. all-purpose flour, or more if needed
Filling:
1 C. melted butter, divided (2 sticks)
1 3/4 C. granulated sugar, divided
3 Tbsp. ground cinnamon
1 1/2 C. chopped walnuts, optional
1 1/2 C. raisins, optional
Creamy glaze:
2/3 C. melted butter (1 stick plus 2 Tbsp.)
4 C. powdered sugar
2 tsp vanilla
4-8 Tbsp. hot water
Preparation:
In a small bowl mix together warm water, yeast and two tablespoons sugar and set aside. In a large bowl, mix milk, remaining 2/3 cup sugar, melted butter, salt and eggs; stir well and add yeast mixture. Add half the flour and beat until smooth. Stir in enough of the remaining flour until dough is slightly stiff (dough will be sticky).
Turn out onto a well-floured board; knead 5 -10 minutes. Place in well-buttered glass or plastic bowl, cover and let rise in warm place, free from drafts, until doubled in bulk, about 1 to 1 1/2 hours.
When doubled, punch down dough and let rest 5 minutes. Roll out on floured surface into a 15 x 20 inch rectangle.
To prepare filling: Spread dough with 1/2 cup melted butter. Mix together 1 1/2 cups sugar and cinnamon; sprinkle over buttered dough. Sprinkle with walnuts and raisins, if desired.
Roll up jellyroll-fashion and pinch edge together to seal. Cut into 12 to 15 slices. Coat bottom of a 13-by-9-inch baking pan and a 8-inch square pan with remaining 1/2 cup melted butter, then sprinkle with remaining 1/4 cup sugar. Place cinnamon roll slices close together in pans. Let rise in warm place until dough is doubled in bulk, about 45 minutes.
Preheat oven to 350 degrees. Bake 25 to 30 minutes, or until rolls are nicely browned. Cool rolls slightly.
To prepare glaze: Meanwhile, in medium bowl, mix melted butter, powdered sugar and vanilla; add hot water 1 Tbsp. at a time until glaze reaches desired spreading consistency. Spread over slightly cooled rolls.
"Dana Milbank:
This is why the "victory" strategy is brilliant: As my sage colleague Al Kamen points out, Bush is taking the Potter Stewart approach. I don't know the definition of victory, but I know it when I see it. While the president has put himself in position of being the sole arbiter of victory, he has managed to make all his opponents appear to be advocating the opposite, which is defeat."
i don't think country joe ever used the word "darn".
A lot of the credit for the miniscule change in the discourse has to be given to Dean. His refusing to engage in give and take with Mehlman has changed the way the bobble heads are conducting interviews. Notice Blitzer now has each side on individually and is thus better able to handle the discourse and call the repukes on their bushit. Of course, anybody who got their start at CBC is not to be entirely trusted.
Washington, D.C.: The most recent Sketch told us how many times the President used the term "victory" in discussing Iraq, but not what the President meant by the term. Since, as you point out, the President makes "victory" a centerpiece of his Iraq PR campaign, can you shed any light on what exactly the President means by "victory"? Isn't it important to know what we are fighting for; or is Iraq just a Vietnam re-run about which Country Joe and the Fish once sang, "well its 1-2-3-4, what are we fighting for? Don't know, don't give a darn. Next stop is Vietnam."
oops. there ya go.
don't think country joe ever used the word "darn".
chris from boca
I've still got the vinyl, but I don't need to check it. "Darn" is just not there.
rj, maybe it is a losing battle, but I'd rather go down fighting.
Chris - yeah DARN and NAM don't rhyme.
and it's five six seven open up the pearly gates.
Well, it ain't no use to wondering why
Whoopee we're all gonna die.
what is so difficult about argyuing that we are not "at war"? the president is inafallable because we are at war, i'm told. well we aren't "at war". if we were, more people would be fighting with each other. most people on the planet want peace, not war. the war on terror is brought to you by those exceptions who seek power through war.
Victory stratagy? Call it what it is- the Victory Cursade.
Call it a crusade. The Crusades all failed. Religious wars on other's soil never sustain to victory.
He used all the apocolypse language early.
Time to pin him to his original words. He said the war wasn't winnable as well when someone asked, something the media let go down the memory hole...
Good morning moonbats -
Yet another meaningless helping of tripe from MoDo. She's such a shitty writer. Her cutesy act is going to be even more tiresome as she gets older.
Her new photo is nausea inducing too. She takes her Dorothy Parker re-enactment seriously down to the severe hair and plucked eyebrows.
Bush: Done, ruined and fucked.
Missed Brokaw's comments, but there's a thesis I've been developing for a while that starts with a bomb-thrower assertion -- the greatest generation on the other side of the world were the fascists -- the Nazis, the Stalinists. What made that generation on this side different? I thought for a long time and concluded that a major reason is that the US had at the time some semblance of a free press. It might not have been perfect, and Hearst might have been every bit the megalomaniac that Murdoch is, but the system worked in a way that it's pretty clear to me, it's not working now. A free press, and an informed populace, who was willing and able to call its government to account -- that's what made the greatest generation great.
Bush accuses people of bailing out- like his dad did...
As many people have pointed out, Osama Bin Laden got everything he dreamed of and more.
If a reasaonable (as opposed to treasonable) person had been in charge, the world would have helped us fix Afghanistan: instead Chimp decided to prove his dick was bigger than daddy's and now we have so many many dead and maimed and forever changed.
When we ask people to do things like kill, we assault their very humaness and when the cameras are off and the officers are gone and the person is alone: what are they going to do?
Damn.
is it true that when oliver north testified at iran-contra, he mentioned bin laden by name, and said that he was afraid of him? this is going around the internets, and i had never heard it before.
Dane, that has been my belief for many years now. If people will not be told the truth - and the truth is not readily available - THEY will do whatever the hell they feel like doing. (Gee, I think I have a new book coming out with that theme? Let me think . . . yep, I do!)
Just 'cause this was the first thing to make me smile this morning.
GWPDA, that is teh cute! those cats look like they are grinning!
Seems to me that Hecate is enjoying her weekend with Fitz a bit too much. Ah well, next weekend he is mine.
Thirty percent of this country will be loyal to bush no matter what. Forty percent of this country wants to get rid of Bush. The balance just don't give a shit one way or the other.
We're deluding ourselves if we think most Americans would so the right thing if they were exposed to different media. (I.e. not 24/7 television propaganda.) People want to believe Bush. People think America is #1, democracy is the best thing ever, and that people envy us for our freedom. Selfish whiney ass titty baby culture.
Bush: Done, ruined and fucked.
I had the sense that Terrier was tiptoeing away, hoping not to be seen....
ql, you looking for Fitz?
Let me call him over to the keyboard....
Morning, bats.
Her eyes,
no, he didn't mention bin Laden in 1987. I assume the rumor started to prop up North's credibility.
Arabella, I am not so sure. This propaganda has been going on for so long now that I do not think most people are even aware of the power of information.
When I first wrote CHALLENGE the year was 1991. That is a long time to deal with the daily lies of the collusion of the government and big media.
If the propaganda were replaced with reality, I believe people would change - even the thirty per cent who substitute hatred for reason and religion for personal responsibility.
thank, NYMary.
i got that in an email, don't break the chain, blah blah blah...
i'm always suspect of that sort of thing, and usually delete it.
should have known it was a roomah! 
North HAS NO CREDIBILITY.
He gave that up when he fucking used his position as a LtCol of Marines to profit and undermine the government as a result of the position he held.
Fuck that worthless piece of shit.
Semper Fidelis
p.s. this scumbag and I have had numerous email exchanges debating this - I have consistantly left his ass in a smoking pile of rubble over it. Fuck him.
is it true that when oliver north testified at iran-contra, he mentioned bin laden by name, and said that he was afraid of him? this is going around the internets, and i had never heard it before.
her eyes | 12.17.05 - 6:43 am | # ...............>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
North had an expensive security system installed at his home and he justified the cost by mentioning the name of Abu Nidal,a roving terrorist who met his end by Saddams' security force who shot him to death in his Iraq hotel.
room.
Well, I agree with the "worthless piece of shit" designation, Barndog, but at least he's denying this rumor openly.
I have a theory that Watergate, Iran-Contra, the Lewinsky scandal, and our latest laundry list of horrors were all brought to you by the same crowd. Not even the Republican party, but some smallish cabal within it who've always seen power as their right and this nation as their own personal toy. uck them. They need to be broken this time, and decisively.
Morning BD and GWPDA. Nice to see you both (though truth be told, I compromised and decided two cups of coffee and a nap before the Chiros was a good idea. and my second cup is nearly gone.
Boy, Hell o Scan is working like a charm this day, eh?
And speaking of worthless pieces of shit, ladies and gentlemen, the next vice-president of the United States.
NYMary, I agree with your belief that this needs to be killed once and for all, but it is kind of like the Hydra, you know? (And I am not much like Hercules anymore)
Yeah, and fuck Hell-O-Scam too with a rusty chainsaw.
DWD, have patience. Watergate took for-fucking ever before we got rid of Nixon. At every stage of the game the Republicans supported his crimes. I'm pressing my way by working on local stuff where I can have the most impact.
Bush: Done, ruined and fucked; but he doesn't know it yet.
Holy crap! My blog has been trolled by a white power person! They went back into the archives to the Nazi twins and posted some of their lytrics.
Wow.
DWD,
Even Rama didn't fight Ravana alone.
Sorry, not paying full attention here. So infatuated by Mr. Plushy and his particle accelerator.
Yesh, I know Mary. I was even thinking of the other labor of Hercules when he had to wrestle with the giant and the only way he could beat him was to hold him up in the air cause his strength came from the earth. (I hate getting old, used to know who that was and for the life of me . . . )
NYMary - I've always kinda, maybe believed there was an international cabal running things out of Switzerland. What I can't understand, if there is such a cabal, why they have not stepped in before now to stop these criminals. They are literally killing the golden goose. Unless of course,they have decided that the U.S. is no longer the golden goose, and have bestowed that rank to China.
GWPDA. Hecate and I decided that rather than fight to the death over who was going to get Fitz, we would share him. This is her weekend. I'm worried she may try to co-opt next weekend as well, it being Fitzmas and all.
I was even thinking of the other labor of Hercules when he had to wrestle with the giant and the only way he could beat him was to hold him up in the air cause his strength came from the earth. (I hate getting old, used to know who that was and for the life of me . . . )
Antaeus.
DWD,
That was Antaeus. (I only know this because of the Yeats line: "John Synge, I and Augusta Gregory, thought/ All that we did, all that we said or sang/ Must come from contact with the soil, from that/ Contact everything Antaeus-like grew strong."; and because of the Steve Reeves MST3K. Sad, I know.)
Fuck, that alarm went off way to damn early.
NYMary is unka dick going somewhere? Because the only way that scumbag could become veep is if he were appointed by the shrub. The fundies who control the rethug party are more than happy to have the guilianies of the party sing their tune but they will never let someone like him on the big ticket.
I've always kinda, maybe believed there was an international cabal running things out of Switzerland.
Um, for long term and pervasive criminal control of government, don't you think that you should look first to the longest term criminals in government? Say, the vice president? Mr. Rumsfield? Mr. Feith? Mr. Perle? The cadre has been working very hard for some time.
And IIRC, Herc finally beat Antaeus by chucking him in the ocean.
We just have to figure out what the ocean is, or who our Hanuman is. (Personally, I think *we're* Hanuman, but that's just me.)
NTodd, what the hell are you doing up? Go back to bed.
Oh, and _He Walked By Night_ is on TCM any second, depending where you are. 'Darkness After Dawn' film noir for breakfast.
klyde,
I predict McCain/Guiliani in 08, on my darker days.
NTodd, what the hell are you doing up? Go back to bed.
Meeting with the CTO at 8. Company meeting at 9. Xmas party tonight. Command performance. Guess I'd better go shower.
Um, for long term and pervasive criminal control of government, don't you think that you should look first to the longest term criminals in government?
Long term? Fidel Castro... just kidding, but he has them all beat for longevity.
Um, for long term and pervasive criminal control of government, don't you think that you should look first to the longest term criminals in government?
Long term? Fidel Castro... just kidding, but he has them all beat for longevity.
BTW, got our first winter heating bill here - yep, 100% higher, Last year about $120 this year $220. Well, the money will come from some place: guess it will have to be discretionary spending cause my $2.00 a day raise (total) I received for the last three years will not even pay for the difference in gas . . . .
GWPDA,
That's exactly what I meant, though I think ql is right in the sense that the money-men are calling the shots. Rumsfeld and Cheney have had their odious fingerprints on every one of these crises, and personally, I'd like to see them both fall victim to unfortunate (for them) disasters.
NTodd, check and see if your Prussian Blue post got trolled but the Nazis. Mine did.
that's got trolled by the Nazis...
Um, for long term and pervasive criminal control of government, don't you think that you should look first to the longest term criminals in government? Say, the vice president? Mr. Rumsfield? Mr. Feith? Mr. Perle? The cadre has been working very hard for some time.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar
Truly, I'm not a conspiracy nut. I even laughed with the rest of the country when Hillary talked about the vast right wing conspiracy...
I do believe there is an international cabal of money men who attempt to run things. Rummy, Cheney, et al., are either just tools, or have thrown a monkey wrench into the works.
well, see you all in an hour or so. The last visit to the chiro kind of was a step back and I did not sleep very well last night.
But young DWD is coming home today sporting another 4.0 semester. (I might have to admit I was wrong eventually. He chose criminal justice for his major with an idea of being a prison administrator. Not something I would like to do but his grade on one of his finals was a 92. Class average was 62. Maybe being on the brightest in the group IS a good thing.)
Guess I'd better go shower.
AND REMEMBER TO PUT ON YOUR PANTS!
'Enkew.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/
20051...as_tree_rentals
NYMary - no trolling. A benefit of Typepad being down all day?
Well, I gotta dash. Talking about blogs/wikis/podcasts today at the company meeting. Mebbe I can make this into a paying gig after all!
Bush will never ever appoint Rudy as VP. Bush's ego couldn't take it. Remember, Rudy is pro-life and he had a messy divorce. The wing-nuts will have shit fits if Rudy is out up as VP.
bush: done, ruined and fucked
AND REMEMBER TO PUT ON YOUR PANTS!
Oh yeah, those. Where'd I leave them?
And now I'm really leaving.
I don't see the fundies letting them on the big ticket. Neither does the Jesus talk and that is what counts to the base.
DWD--congrats on the kid, and i hope you feel better soon.
Good morning folkses.
Good morning folkses and goddamn that Foxfire cookie cache!
I could never be a parody troll because this machine can never keep the name consistent.
Haven't gotten the gas bill yet this month. Keeping it at 65 for the nin~a's sake, so am holding my breath.
what is really frightening is that there is still a good 2-3 months of winter still to come.
(shudder)
Internalizing coffee and oatmeal.
NYMary, we have idols to Hanuman around the house. Maybe we can make a sacrifice to him.
O what a beautiful morning.
morning, there's a little spitting frozen rain here today.
DWD: congrats to the kid. REmember, he did it all himself, you didn't have anything to do with it... I keep trying to keep to that line with mine.
ql: I laughed at the vast ... conspiracy line, myself. It isn't the concept, it's the line. She was using right wing language and that doesn't work for an intellectual who sticks to up and up politics.
afternoon moonbats
Bush renewed spying more than three dozen times...37? 300 kazillion?
hello moonbootica, how are things in the UK today?
US calls for sacking of Iraq's interior minister over Sunni prisoner abuse
The US is pressing for the sacking of Bayan Jabr, Iraq's Shia interior minister, whose staff have been discovered to be torturing Sunni prisoners. With a strong Sunni role in Iraq's next government apparently secure after their high turnout in Thursday's election, US officials want to ensure that cabinet posts are no longer exploited for sectarian or partisan ends. Sunnis have long complained that the interior ministry is one of the worst offenders.
Inspections of two detention centres on the eve of this week's poll found around 800 inmates, many of them teenagers, living in cramped conditions under interior ministry guard. Dozens had to be sent to hospital for injuries administered by guards.
Okay, I gave it a shot. read every comment here on the open thread, and the Lib Crit article.
I still don't get it. Must be my blind obedience to Jesus, coupled with my complete and total lack of independant thought, all sauteed nicely with a dash of right-wing brainwashing.
Just wanted to stop in and leave a quick note - kinda like "KILROY WAS HERE."
Best of luck, all, and we'll see you in November!
Eric in Hollywood
proud to be from a town that's been exploiting the weak and dreamy-eyed since 1903
Halfdon,
Hanuman reminds us that it's not all about being biggest and strongest. There's wit and intelligence, too. And humor.
Morning Moonbootica.
I would so love to be in London right now.
her eyes bright and sunny.
my parents are in Berlin at the moment, won't be back till Sunday so me and my sister have had the whole place to ourseleves.
I have the house to myself most afternoons =as my sister is working at our local Boots store.
Still the NSA story won't go anywhere, the right will discount the source. NYT's eh? Nothing to see here, move along.
Do you ever wonder what it is that the window-shoppers come looking for here? They don't find it, then they sneer at us for their failure. It's weird.
Moonbootica, did the US place that story?
Seems Abramoff had been paying columnists to write favorable stories about his clients. Something of a virus going around the crooked circles.
Ruth I'm not sure really
Good morning, early risers. I know what you mean about the $2 raise, DWD. I just saw my dad's cost-of-living increase to his SS check, and after taking back the increased Medicare premium, it's $2 more than last year.
Y'know, I hope some enterprising Berkeleyans decide to follow John Yoo around with a camera all the fucking time, including to the bathroom stall when he takes a shit, to see whether he uses copies of the US Constitution to wipe his arse.
Because someone who basically makes legal arguments for torture, unlawful surveillance and dictatorial powers deserves to get a long, deep taste of his own medicine.
And yes, Dean really does have to get the congressional Dems to agree to a frame for '06 that is 'Kick the bastards out so that we can impeach the bastard we can't vote out.'
NYMary, aside from the paid trolls, I really can't understand it at all. Some trolls are obviously just completely bonkers, but others, like our friend this morning just baffle me.
BTW - re the impending transit strike. Only one person at work think the workers have a point. Several voiced the opinion that they should all be fired. Living wage, bah humbug. Breaking the union by creating inequitable tiers, bah. It's an awful job and so should be compensated accordingly, bah. Just couldn't get through to anyone. Now, the head of the MTA says he is through negotiating. There is an offer on the table, take it or leave it. This is the guy who only showed up two hours before the deadline.
I wasn't around yesterday. Did any kitties show up?
Law abiding citizens have nothing to fear from this administration.
Actually, Mary, I came by because on my side of the universe, this particular site (along with Kos) is cited as being evil incarnate. Naturally, being a curious kinda guy, and never being one to just accept what's thrown at me, my responsibility was to do my own research, correct?
My comment was simply selfish - to be able to say I didn't just give everything a cursory glance.
Didn't mean to offend. Seriously.
Eric in Hollywood
beginning to think he's brought a knife to a gunfight
Holy cow, it's STILL only 33F!
Good morning all.
31 and overcast here in NE MD. No wind, so the 31 seems practically balmy.
Watched Bootsy get interviewed by Lehrer last night. I thought the latter did a pretty good job of making a fool of Bush, in a "gentle" manner so as not to rile up the boy, else he would have bolted for locked doors.
The US is pressing for the sacking of Bayan Jabr, Iraq's Shia interior minister, whose staff have been discovered to be torturing Sunni prisoners.
Time to explore the Gimlet solution and partition Iraq into three sovereign entities.
Have Cheney call and we'll do lunch.
No trolling or offense was intended here. More reasonable to say I was wondering if what would happen if I showed up.
SERIOUSLY NOT LOOKING FOR A FIGHT, okay?
Just want to read, folks.
Eric in Hollywood
Actually, Mary, I came by because on my side of the universe, this particular site (along with Kos) is cited as being evil incarnate.
So you don't get why it's evil incarnate or you just don't see the purpose of the site at all?
Here, I'll give you something to go on.
Happy Holidays.
Police break up Beijing's first gay festival
Police have broken up Beijing's first gay and lesbian festival only minutes after it started, the organisers said yesterday.
More than 400 people were expected for the three-day event, but as soon as they started to gather at Factory 798 in the Dashanzi art complex police entered and told everyone to leave.
"They didn't give us a reason," said Zhu Rikun, an organiser. "Hundreds of people were due to turn up this weekend. I don't know how we are going to let everyone know it has been banned."
Because someone who basically makes legal arguments for torture, unlawful surveillance and dictatorial powers deserves to get a long, deep taste of his own medicine.
pseudonymous in nc
Why is it that one man's opinion trumps 230 years of history, and almost 100% of all constitutional scholars. WHY? Even fucking Scalia believes that flag burning is constitutionally protected free speech. I'm getting really pissed here.
I thought Bootsy did a good job, for Bootsy. A speech coach has minimized the smirk. He was controlled and rational.
That's the best I can say for him.
World trade negotiations are going backwards, says Peter Mandelson
Trade ministers from 149 countries were last night bracing themselves for failure in Hong Kong after admitting that four days of intense and bitter wrangling had made only minimal progress in breaking the deadlock in global liberalisation talks.
Peter Mandelson, Europe's trade commissioner, said the negotiations were going backwards in key areas, while the UK's trade secretary, Alan Johnson, said thought was already being given to a New Year heads of government summit to breathe fresh life into the round.
long ago, i was in a union, and our contract was up for re-negotiation, and i couldn't convince people that if we voted "no" to the contract, it didn't mean we went out on strike; that it meant they would have to go back to negotiations. they didn't get it. they thought if we voted "no" to the contract, they'd be out on strike.
they were very much afraid of that.
A lot of the credit for the miniscule change in the discourse has to be given to Dean.
Have you seen the cover of the latest National Review? It's meant to be a Christmas present from Zarqawi to 'Dean Democrats'. Which is nice.
I think it's time to start shoving rolled-up copies of the NR up the rear ends of its staff.
I pity the fool. Life lived in terror is no life at all.
SERIOUSLY NOT LOOKING FOR A FIGHT, okay?
Just want to read, folks.
Eric in Hollywood
HollywoodNeoCon
Welcome.
Moon, I'm crazy about Boots! Kept a tin of Rose Talcum from there for years, just to admire the package.
Oh, and yes, this is Evil Incarnate Central. You can tell by the references to 'pants, absence of', 'cats, presence of', and recipes.
Just in case EVERYONE posting here has not seen, here is link to Harold Pinter's acceptance speech for Nobel Prize, delivered via video from his wheelchair last Saturday.
It is long. It is devastating indictment of the US.
http://www.truthout.org/docs_200...5/
120805M.shtml
No evil here, nor anywhere reasonable people can gather to disagree and chat.
Seriously. Just want to enjoy my coffee this early and BEAUTIFUL morning (sorry, east coasters), and see what all the fuss has been about.
Eric in Hollywood
This site is evil incarnate?
That is a rather amusing comment, being that the LGF folks and all constantly preach violence and destruction.
American comedy pokes fun at US ignorance of Islam
DUBAI (Reuters) - It may seem odd for an American to go to Asia, and not the Middle East, to learn about Islam after the September 11, 2001 attacks by al Qaeda.
But U.S. comedian Albert Brooks said this peculiarity underscores the basic premise of his satirical film "Looking for Comedy in the Muslim World", which pokes fun at U.S. ignorance about Arabs and Muslims.
The 19 suicide hijackers who struck New York and Washington in 2001 all hailed from the Middle East, which is also the birthplace of Islam.
"One of the subtle things I think the movie was trying to say is that the U.S. government really makes no distinction ... between Arab Muslims and South Asian Muslims," Brooks told Reuters in an interview in the Gulf Arab emirate.
No trolling or offense was intended here. More reasonable to say I was wondering if what would happen if I showed up.
SERIOUSLY NOT LOOKING FOR A FIGHT, okay?
OK. But imagine you went to a totally non-political discussion board, a gaming site, for example, or a digital photography site, or Slashdot and announced the same thing.
What would the response be?
Ironically, the only places you'd get totally supportive posts in response are the most stereotypical left "politically correct" sites or places like depression support sites or places like "children of alcoholics". People would say "welcome Eric".
Why is it that one man's opinion trumps 230 years of history, and almost 100% of all constitutional scholars. WHY?
Because it's the sliver of justification they want. Yoo was a yes-man for hire.
I'd seriously be worried about the run-up to 2006, especially if the polls look bad for the GOP, and the prospect of investigating these bastards arises.
I'm making my plans to get the fuck out of Dodge.
Boots is Dora's monkey. You mean little boots.
I thought Bootsy did a good job, for Bootsy. A speech coach has minimized the smirk. He was controlled and rational.
Except that grinning and smirking when discussing the Iraq War was a little inappropriate maybe?
This site is evil incarnate?
That is a rather amusing comment, being that the LGF folks and all constantly preach violence and destruction.
The only thing evil about this site is the excess of red baiting.
Shouting "Nader Nader Why don't You Vote for Nader" is basically like saying "oh shut up you fucking communist".
So a really perceptive conservative would feel right at home.
Harold Pinter.
...ahem...quietly gonna let that one slide. LOL
He was controlled and rational.
That's the best I can say for him.
el
He was controlled, I'll give you that. But I noticed, in addition to the pointy ears, that he had to consciously stop his leg from hopping, and he had the jaw thing going. He was trying to control it, but it came through anyway. As for being rational. I don't know, saying killing 30,000 was worth it. Would a rational person really believe that?
GWPDA, my mother gets discount there due to her Boots card so for this winter festival she is getting me perfume, my sister asked for Dior Pure Poison but I am torn between Este Lauder Beyond Paradise or Dior J'ador.
The 19 suicide hijackers who struck New York and Washington in 2001 all hailed from the Middle East, which is also the birthplace of Islam.
A curious line from Reuters, given that the Middle East is also the birthplace of Judaism, Christianity, Zoroastrianism, Mithraism, and all manner of amusing religions.
Anyway, I'm downloading a BBC documentary on Moorish Spain right now...
Harold Pinter.
Other than being right what objection do you have to Harold Pinter?
British intelligence ruled supposed London bombers not a threat: report
LONDON (AFP) - Two of the four presumed suicide bombers who killed 52 commuters in the July 7 London attacks were scrutinized by British intelligence last year but were not considered a threat, a newspaper reports.
Shahzad Tanweer, 22, assumed to have detonated a rucksack bomb on a subway train, is believed to have been indirectly linked to an alleged plot to build a bomb in 2004, the Independent said, without identifying sources.
Tanweer is thought to have been the subject of a routine assessment by MI5, Britain's domestic intelligence agency, the paper said.
I miss Boots. I spent about £50's worth of points on my Boots card before I moved here, just to buy things that Herself liked but couldn't buy over here.
There are Boots aisles in a few Targets right now, but the SE is always the last densely-populated part of America to get European stores and brands. Atlanta got an IKEA this year; but the nearest H&M is in DC...
Seriously though, conservatives using getting flamed on liberal discussion boards as a way to prove that liberalism is wrong.
Now do you do the same thing on Slashdot, for example. If someone flames you on Slashdot does it prove that you shouldn't use Linux?
Or do you still have to test out Windows and Linux and see for yourself which is better?
Isn't internet flaming basically useless. Can you imagine Bill Gates writing a book like Michelle Malkin's, posting trolls from Slashdot to prove that you should use XP?
People would laugh him out of business.
Moon, you'll be perfect with J'Adore.
Harold Pinter.
...ahem...quietly gonna let that one slide. LOL
HollywoodNeoCon
You mean zing right over your pointed little head. Right, Hollywood?
Ironically, the only places you'd get totally supportive posts in response are the most stereotypical left "politically correct" sites or places like depression support sites or places like "children of alcoholics". People would say "welcome Eric".
I don't know if you intended this to be humorous, but I got a chuckle out of it.
Reminds me of the old Lay Witness Missions of my youth:
Smile, God loves you and I love you.
saying killing 30,000 was worth it. Would a rational person really believe that?
_________
Sure! Better than saying 54,000+, the real number.
But I thought he was referring to American casualties.
Careful Hollywood, you're being subtly hosed.
The only thing evil about this site is the excess of red baiting.
Which red baiting are we talking about? The red state baiting is one of its most endearing and entertaining features.
SWR, to be fair, trolls exist everywhere. To my thinking, a troll is an individual who goes to a particular site with no intention of engaging anything other than flame wars. I hate that shit.
On the sites I frequent, there are actually a few people of differing opinions who I respect a helluva lot more than the grunts who like to suddenly call into question a liberal's sexual orientation, or that of his/her parents. Pathetic.
No, I am not saying this site is evil incarnate. Such an assertion is ignorant, and totally beneath my intellect, as well as that of most other reasoned people.
My little attempt at humor about "not getting it," was simply that, humor. Didn't mean to offend anyone. BUT, while we may be reasonable in our disagreements, I don't fool myself for a second by pretending that either of us will cause an epiphany in the other.
Eric in Hollywood
pseudonymous in nc - Still, I reckon it's grand for there to be some things you can only get in certain places. I can't find Pears soap here to save my life - Red Rose tea almost never and Peek-Freans? No... It'll make going up to WInnipeg in February a good thing!
historical events today
# 283 - St Gaius becomes Pope.
# 384 - St Siricius becomes Pope.
# 1843 - Charles Dickens' A Christmas Carol is first published.
# 1862 - American Civil War: General Ulysses S. Grant issues General Order No. 11, expelling Jews from Tennessee, Mississippi, and Kentucky.
# 1903 - The Wright Brothers make the first powered heavier-than-air flight in the Wright Flyer at Kitty Hawk, North Carolina.
# 1944 - World War II: Battle of the Bulge - Malmédy massacre - American 285th Field Artillery Observation Battalion POWs are shot by Waffen-SS Kampfgruppe Peiper.
# 1989 - Romanian Revolution: Protests continue in Timisoara with rioters breaking into the Romanian Communist Party's District Committee building and attempting to set it on fire.
# 2003 - The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King is released worldwide.
Because someone who basically makes legal arguments for torture, unlawful surveillance and dictatorial powers deserves to get a long, deep taste of his own medicine.
pseudonymous in nc
Fucking WORD! There is absolutely nothing some wingers aren't willing to embrace if it comes from this preznitwit. Torture? Check. Spying on U.S. citizens? Check. It's truly amazing that the guy who vacationed in TX while an unpresidented number of warnings that terrorists were about to strike (think Katrina)is now claiming that he needs amazing powers to PROTECT us by destroying the Constitution. My god!
On the sites I frequent, there are actually a few people of differing opinions who I respect a helluva lot more than the grunts who like to suddenly call into question a liberal's sexual orientation, or that of his/her parents. Pathetic.
This has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with the nature of discussions on the internet.
Windows uers are Fags!!! LoL!!! LOL!!!
the conservatards bleat in unison...us progressives have an inclusive party with many diverse ideas....
our christofascists will ruin the us (even worse than they have by aceepting segregation and racism and sexism and bigotry and ignorance)
robert byrd is the one they like to smear in our faces about being bigotted: but they are too stupid to get that when someone is big enough to realize a fault - and change, they grow stronger!
HollywoodNeoCon
Using your vast fund of conservative wisdom, tell us why the Iraqis don't show us more "love" for ridding them of Saddam and bringing democracy to their country?
You can't cheat an honest man. Hever give a sucker an even break or smarten-up a chump.
I can't find Pears soap here to save my life - Red Rose tea almost never and Peek-Freans? No... It'll make going up to WInnipeg in February a good thing!
GWPDA - I got some Pears at a dollar store about a year ago. Three bars for a dollar. Good stuff. My sainted grandmother used to use it.
Harold Pinter.
...ahem...quietly gonna let that one slide. LOL
HollywoodNeoCon | Email | 12.17.05 - 8:14 am | #
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Accusing the United States of torturing terrorist suspects in Guantánamo Bay and Abu Ghraib, Mr. Pinter called the invasion of Iraq - for which he said Britain was also responsible - "a bandit act, an act of blatant state terrorism, demonstrating absolute contempt for the concept of international law." He called for Prime Minister Tony Blair to be tried before an international criminal court.
Mr. Pinter said it was the duty of the writer to hold an image up to scrutiny, and the duty of citizens "to define the real truth of our lives and our societies."
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but oh, let's let that slide
SWR, to be fair, trolls exist everywhere. To my thinking, a troll is an individual who goes to a particular site with no intention of engaging anything other than flame wars. I hate that shit.
You know what I really hate? I guy from Hollywood that thinks he's an intellectual and a neocon. That's grandiose, even by hollywood standards.
I know you all rehashed this story yesterday, but I just found out about it and I'm still fuming.
Officials also assured senior editors of The Times that a variety of legal checks had been imposed that satisfied everyone involved that the program raised no legal questions.
Because its no like the Times has any of its own lawyers, right? Oh, sorry, they were busy with Judy's case.
"not getting it"
Case in point: Harold Pinter
Of course, some people actually thought Arafat deserved it, so who am I to question?
Oh, NYMary, if you're still here: do you want a DVD containing all 15 episodes of Bleak House? The last one was on BBC1 last night, so I can now distribute the set before it heads to PBS, where they're apparently going to butcher it in the editing suite.
isn't there a part in the inauguration ceremony where the president puts his hand on a bible, and swears to uphold the constitution?
GWPDA, Peek Freans have disappeared off the shelves everywhere. I don't know what happened to them. But I'd be happy to send you some Red Rose tea if you need it.
yes i was sad that Bleak House finished last night.
an extremly good adaption and lovely camera work as well.
excellent cast too!
Andrew Davis certainly knows how to adapt 'em!
The NY Times, eh? Those Clinton apologists?
Wasn't it Leo Strauss who proposed there were secret meanings in ancient Greek texts that only the truly adept could decode? I like that. Why don't you pitch a script to us? Like a Neocon Da Vinci code. Entertain us. Dance! Little monkey! Dance!
peek freans are a very serious cookie.
I can't find Pears soap here to save my life - Red Rose tea almost never and Peek-Freans? No... It'll make going up to WInnipeg in February a good thing!
Oh damn. I left Pears soap off my list of things to go in my Red Cross parcel from home.
But you can get it (at a price) from various 'British stores' online.
scratch a Neocon and you find a Trotskyite.
tell us about 'world revolution', cause you Neocons cling onto that.
"You know what I really hate? I guy from Hollywood that thinks he's an intellectual and a neocon. That's grandiose, even by hollywood standards."
You have absolutely NO IDEA how grandiose we are. Why the hell do you think we live here?
You've had your two minutes. I'm calling lot security. Get out of my office!
Gas and electricity bills will rise, says Centrica
· High wholesale energy costs blamed
· Hundreds more jobs to go in savings drive
Britain's biggest energy supplier Centrica said yesterday that customers faced another increase in gas and electricity bills next year and said other companies would also have to raise prices.
The company, which announced it was reducing its workforce by 2,000 in July, said it was planning further job cuts to reduce costs. It has not put a figure on the latest cuts, but the job losses are expected to be several hundred.
winnipeg in february
(shudders)
'That's grandiose, even by hollywood standards.
Anonymous'
Just looking, he says...
Poor thing may even be in CA, where it's predawn - what would I do, turn on C-span?? Oh, look, it's Rep. Meek of the thirtysomethings working against torture, spying on US citizens, wars against anyone we don't like. That we can't tell anyone to practice what we preach, not what we actually practice. Guess I will.
You have absolutely NO IDEA how grandiose we are. Why the hell do you think we live here?
HollywoodNeoCon
Oh yes I do. In two words... crass stupidity.
"world revolution"???
There is no such thing, unless of course a crafty screenwriter/producer team decides to sell it to you.
911: It changed everything.
Remember when we all had 4Th Amendment protections. Yeah, good times.
its true, Neocons as former Trotkyites still believe in a notion of 'world revolution'.
they can't leave their past behind them.
saying killing 30,000 was worth it. Would a rational person really believe that?
There are far more dead and wounded than that. Every time some witless fool asks if I'd rather Saddam be in power, I say yes. Well over 2,000 dead Americans, tens of thousands of seriously injured (let's not even talk about the mental problems) and over 30,000 dead Iraqis for this pointless misadventure is NOT WORTH IT.
Ruth-Meek of Florida or Meeks of New York?
Scratch a Neocon and you find a Stalinist, not a Trotskyite.
Devizes, UK
Current Nearest Observations:
sunny 0°C (32°F)
W (6 mph)
Relative Humidity (%): 85,
Pressure (mB): 1022, Rising,
Visibility: Very good
Checking TCM for the week: the 1942 'To Be Or Not To Be' is on Thursday.
"I changed 9/11."
George Bush
He did. I saw him do it.
Bush's desire to implant western-style democracy in Iraq is profoundly reminiscent of past British imperial practice
Ooh, Linda Colley. Always worth reading. Her 'Britons' is a fucking fantastic book on the formation of national identity in the 18th-c.
Protesters break through to gates of WTO meeting
HONG KONG (Reuters) - Anti-globalization protesters fought pitched battles with Hong Kong police on Saturday outside a convention center where trade ministers from around the world were making a last-ditch effort to rescue a global pact.
Witnesses said hundreds of protesters from South Korean farmers' groups, who say free trade is ruining them, broke through police lines to reach the building, although they were prevented from getting inside.
"It is a stand-off at the building. Fifty riot police just rushed inside the building. They are not allowing anyone out," said one Reuters reporter at the scene.
Its cold in here. Think I'll burn the Patriot Act.
Ahhhhh
LOL...okay, so this little experiment lasted all of what, fifteen minutes or so?
Nice to know that while you're certainly not evil, most of you are about as free-thinking and tolerant as Berliners in the late 30's.
So, I'm going to go feed my dogs, take my coffee and LA Times out onto the patio, and enjoy the sunrise.
Aside from being dreadfully ignorant, it must really suck to have to be so when it's freezing out, huh?
Eric in Hollywood
laughing all the way to another day of manipulating the lemmings
Case in point: Harold Pinter
Of course, some people actually thought Arafat deserved it, so who am I to question?
I'm not quite getting this.
You can be a complete asshole and still produce great art. Pinter probably deserves the Nobel Prize for literature more than most recent nominees.
I personally agree with his politics but there are also right-wingers who deserved it. Case in point, TS Elliot.
The Noble Peace prize is completely different. You can make the argument that you give it to someone when you want to promote an obscure cause. Whether or not that's the right thing to do is irrelevent. It still has very little to do with the prize for literature.
First Bush appealed for calm and for people to go about their business and not be afraid or the terrorists would win... then...
That's why you know he's craven, just not very bright. He just gives the orders after he gets them.
Nice to know that while you're certainly not evil, most of you are about as free-thinking and tolerant as Berliners in the late 30's.
Godwins Law detected.
Har! Told ya, Connie!
GWPDA,
Only you would go up North in Feb. Hahahaha. You're one tough broad.
Nice to know that while you're certainly not evil, most of you are about as free-thinking and tolerant as Berliners in the late 30's.
Alot you know. Those were pretty wild times in Berlin. You truly are an idiot.
Bushboy = Record deficits + phony war + environmental pollution + Plamegate treason + Abu Ghraib + Spying on US citizens without warrants + Payola journalism + Katrina negligence +++++++++
But all of the above doesn't move the Gooper Congress to impeach the depraved and incompetent moron from the WH.
Clinton on the other hand = 1 blowjob .... which led to impeachment by the Goopers!
Hypocrisy is the first and last refuse of Goopers!!!
And I'm evil. Very evil.
Morning rational people.
I see by the droppings that an early rising troll has graced us.
Radioactive alert in Chechnya
Investigators have found nuclear material capable of being used in a dirty bomb in an abandoned factory in Chechnya.
It was not clear why the radioactive source had been kept in the factory in Grozny, but officials said it posed a severe threat to anyone who came near it. Site contamination was found to be tens of thousands of times more than normal levels.
Valery Kuznetsov, a Chechen prosecutor, told NTV television: "This is above all now a threat to the population, because the leadership and officials of the firm did not take the necessary steps to isolate the isotope."
Almost all of Grozny was destroyed by Russian bombing in 1999-2000 when Russian troops poured back into the region to reassert central control over separatist rebels, who still attack troops and police every day.
Don't go away mad....
I will say, however, that red baiting is alive and well. Nobody's going to come out and call you a communist here but invoking Nader in response to any criticism of the Democrats from the left is basically the same thing. It's like saying "the fuck you know commie. My party's bigger than yours."
US Troops have committed, are committing and will continue to commit acts of terrorism
as long as they are in Iraq.
because Iraq is fundamentally a war OF (not 'on') terror.
(Terrorism: application of violence to achieve political ends through fear and intimidation.)
USer troops ARE terrorists in Iraq. Anyone who is blind to that fact is too stupid to operate machinery more sophisticated than scissors...
Karin: Fla. Now Kay Grainger is on, supporting torture and spying. TX is so balmy.
Actually, Berlin was known to be a very freethinking and tolerant city.
So the laugh is on Mr. Hollywood.
shorter necon:
you people suck, and i'll prove it by insulting you, and then when you stick up for yourselves, i'll say, "see? told you you suck!"
and then i'll run away like the nitwit i am!
That's Hollywood for you. He had his fifteen seconds.
Can't spell this early in the morning, even when I'm repeating a phrase I've coined before.
Hypocrisy is the first and last refuge of the Goopers!!!
well i am going to play some more Black and White 2 so catch you all later
you people suck, and i'll prove it by insulting you, and then when you stick up for yourselves, i'll say, "see? told you you suck!"
Difference between this site and LGF.
On LGF, that would have gotten you banned and your IP posted by Squeaky so that his "minions" could show how tech savvy they were and do traceroutes as a prelude to tracking you down punk.
...and then to have freepers call us nazis is another pathetic contortion of ultimate ignorance: if one does not know what something means, yet uses it - how ignorant are they?
nazis are FAR RIGHT on the ideological scale - wiki it you retards
we are definitely intolerant of ignorant and mindless acceptance of the dumbest leader ever elected to president!
I'll bet he's been up all night, troubled, confused.
And as you know, the sunrises and sunsets there are quite stunning. And the air pollution that makes them that way has taken fifteen years off his lifespan just from walking out on the patio in the morning.
Good morning, dearest moonbats.
I buy Pears soap at Dollar Tree stores. It's the only soap I'll use (fragile little flower I am, with very sensitive skin).
nazis are FAR RIGHT on the ideological scale - wiki it you retards
A Protest Warrior at an anti-war rally once told me that Nazis were socialists.
When I asked him what industries in Germany had been nationalized in by 1939 he told me I was being mean to him and that proved that all liberals were haters and that Michelle Malkin was right and we should invade Iran and run some people down with bulldozers.
Actually, if he's really in Hollywood California, he's got at least an hour before sunrise. It's also quite chilly here this morning, so I hope he's got a nice warm jacket on over his jammies.
Someone just asked Kay Grainger how many of her sons are in Iraq. Quite.
Bushboy's stupidity and criminal and arrogant disregard for the US Constitution and US laws is glaringly apparent in his latest scandal of spying on US citizens without seeking proper warrants.
There is a secret court that is authorized to issue warrants to spy on American citizens and all the Bushboy regime had to do was submit their requests to it and they would have been covered legally.
But once again Bushboy shows that he believes he is above the law and that whatever he does as POTUS need not conform to the US Constitution, Treaties or any US laws!!!
morning batzes...
colder than the nether extremities of a well-digger's alimentary canal here in the Hi CHiHuaHuan: probably -6C, or so...
Obviously, Texan Republicans called Kay are to be considered worthless outright.
Actually, if he's really in Hollywood California, he's got at least an hour before sunrise. It's also quite chilly here this morning, so I hope he's got a nice warm jacket on over his jammies.
Diane
He's in Hollywood alright. Hollywood, Florida.
Live Free of Die has taken up a new handle, I see.
A person shows up at a gathering and announces: "I don't get what's going on here, so I'm leaving." (Door slam.)
Person comes back in. "Now I'm really leaving for good." (Door slam)
Person comes back in again. "I'm going to leave forever..."
Hey man - just make like a tree and leave.
Bush: Done, ruined and fucked.
Live Free of Die has taken up a new handle, I see.
A person shows up at a gathering and announces: "I don't get what's going on here, so I'm leaving." (Door slam.)
Person comes back in. "Now I'm really leaving for good." (Door slam)
Person comes back in again. "I'm going to leave forever..."
Hey man - just make like a tree and leave.
Bush: Done, ruined and fucked.
So according to Think Progress Jean Schmidt gets a round of applause from her lunatic collegue's.
Why doesn't someone throw a bucket of water on her and grab her broom already?
Diane, in Phx it's STILL only crept up to 34F and it's dark as the inside of Arthur's tum. A quarter of 7! Come oooooooooon Solstice!
Someone in Spruce Pine, NC, talking about 'the border problem'?
I'm sorry? Spruce Pine only sees Mexicans when there's building work to be done. That's Whitey Central up there.
The racial makeup of the town is 96.35% White, 0.39% African American, 0.54% Native American, 0.05% Asian, 0.00% Pacific Islander, 2.27% from other races, and 0.39% from two or more races. 3.79% of the population are Hispanic or Latino of any race.
Curious, isn't it?
There's nothing here to slake the nihilism of right wing true believer, might as well be the Saturday New York Times.
A Protest Warrior at an anti-war rally once told me that Nazis were socialists.
When I asked him what industries in Germany had been nationalized in by 1939 he told me I was being mean to him and that proved that all liberals were haters and that Michelle Malkin was right and we should invade Iran and run some people down with bulldozers.
SWR | 12.17.05 - 8:44 am
"Private ownership is the cure for all problems, despite the historical record of privately owned states such as Nazi Germany, Czarist and Stalinist Russia, and Maoist China."
Let's privatize it!
Kay is talking about a new border fence, between us & Mexico. A double fence.
Diane, in Phx it's STILL only crept up to 34F and it's dark as the inside of Arthur's tum. A quarter of 7! Come oooooooooon Solstice!
GWPDA
Yikes! You and WGG have us beat. It's in the mid-40's (last I checked).
Aside from being dreadfully ignorant, it must really suck to have to be so when it's freezing out, huh?
The individual does not know the meaning of the word ignorant.
The word ignorant does not apply to the conversations on this site.
I imagine our neocon aquaintance will head back to the freeper sites and whine about the fact that it was treated shabbily whilst here, in turn validating his predetermined take on the site.
On the other hand, if I were to post one or two similar posts on a freeper board, I would be banned immediately.
Tolerance-schmolerance.
Happy Saturnalia!!!!
Kay G: "I've BEEN to the border."
Credentials were never so meaningful.
Jeepers H. Christmas. I'm reading the Times account about how Chimp signed off on orders to blow off the Constitution dozens of times on the shakiest of grounds.
WTF is wrong with the Times that they sat on this fucking story when they should have broken it before the election????? We had a right to know this.
Let's privatize it!
Anonymous | 12.17.05 - 8:48 am | #
Russia is the example of why just privatizing something doesn't do you much good.
Anybody read the stories on Russia and Aids in the New Yorker a few months ago.
The life expectancy now in Russia is ten years less than it was under Communism.
But at least some ex KGB types have cleaned up and some 'Merkin losers get their compliant slavic mail order brides.
WTF is wrong with the Times that they sat on this fucking story when they should have broken it before the election????? We had a right to know this.
bigvic
Amen.. In the nightmare scenario though I can hear Kerry waffleing around whether or not he voted for rectal probing of US citizens before he decided it was a bad idea.
Remember when Goopers were outraged by Clinton's "obstruction of justice" for lying about his sexual peccadillo?
Where is that outrage after Bushboy's lies about WMDs, al-Qaeda ties to Iraq, SS being bankrupt, Gannon-Guckert payola faux journalist, Abu Ghraib, etc?????
Goopers should never be allowed in government. They have neither the mental nor moral requisites!
Yeah, I saw that New Yorker article, SWR. Very depressing.
I can't wait to see the NYT editorial pontifications on killing such an important story.
Bush: Done, ruined and fucked
WTF is wrong with the Times that they sat on this fucking story when they should have broken it before the election????? We had a right to know this.
They didn't want the facts to interfere with the political process. That would be a sign of bias.
Just because the Times is, or was, one of the few papers that is not part of a Huge Media conglomerate doesn't mean that its interests aren't the same as any other corporation.
psudonymous, are those fractions all just one guy named Ernie?
Kay is talking about a new border fence, between us & Mexico. A double fence.
Karin
You mean the one that will cost a couple of million dollars a mile to build?
Thank you, Mr. Tancredo.
Of course, Assrocket thinks that the 'Plame precedent' means the leakers should be punished. Because that's much more important than knowing about secret, unlawful snooping.
And Glenn 'conservatarian' Reynolds appears to agree.
Actually the parody trolls here in a way prove that this site is pretty safe against trolling.
1.) Right wing troll posts.
2.) Gets immediately swarmed and verbally abused.
3.) Doesn't get banned.
4.) Can't bring enough trolls in to back him up or has to resort to simple vandalism.
5.) Liberals go on fighting amongst one another but don't really want to discuss I don't know how much the Democrats suck.
6.) Parody troll comes in to keep the discussion firmly entrenched in "us" vs. "them".
Like the man said, we have internalized that hogwash, that the media has a liberal bias. Not since... well, hardly ever.
Peek Freans have disappeared off the shelves everywhere.
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!
that Michelle Malkin was right and we should invade Iran and run some people down with bulldozers.
...classic 2-year old - when something short-circuits their small mind, they lash out with crying...wahh wahh - fucking babies all they know is violence and ignorance!
So according to Think Progress Jean Schmidt gets a round of applause from her lunatic collegue's.
OMFG. Those people scare me.
1862 - American Civil War: General Ulysses S. Grant issues General Order No. 11, expelling Jews from Tennessee, Mississippi, and Kentucky.
That's one they don't tell you about in high school history.
classic 2-year old - when something short-circuits their small mind, they lash out with crying...wahh wahh - fucking babies all they know is violence and ignorance!
In person they rarely get violent with men under 35.
But they get really badass with 50 year old Code Pink women or guys in their 60s.
I hate when people refer to the US troops as "our boys and girls" (hearing a caller on CSPAN).
psudonymous, are those fractions all just one guy named Ernie?
Heh. 0.39% of 2000-odd means that Spruce Pine has a grand total of 8 African-American residents, 11 Native Americans and one Asian.
But, you know, the border has to be protected so that they don't get over-run by wetbacks.
laughing all the way to another day of manipulating the lemmings
HollywoodNeoCon
Not welcome.
SWR - That's a great summary of Troll Dynamics.
Bush: done ruined and fucked.
I'm going to get out my Hudson's Bay Company blankie right this minute and wrap up. The temperature's dropping just before dawn, dammit - 31F now!
The life expectancy now in Russia is ten years less than it was under Communism.
Yeah, but they are free to die. Makes for a more quality existence.
Proposed title for a biography of Bushboy: The wonderful life of a criminal sociopath who could not be held accountable!!!
SWR - That's a great summary of Troll Dynamics.
Kind of sucks when you have to invent your own trolls.
It's true, some stores don't have the Peek Freans, or when they do it's a limited selection. I like the shortbreads and the coffee cremes myself.
But they get really badass with 50 year old Code Pink women or guys in their 60s.
SWR |-8:56 am
let's just say, in the latter case at least, they'd try...
Liberal bias is a fantasy.
29F here.
Lurk...
I'm going to get out my Hudson's Bay Company blankie right this minute and wrap up. The temperature's dropping just before dawn, dammit - 31F now!
GWPDA
Well, maybe you can take the Canada out of the gal.
HBC is for sale, btw. Some Merkin billionaire wants to buy it. Oldest company on earth, gone.
I'm going to get out my Hudson's Bay Company blankie right this minute and wrap up.
The über-blankie.
(The cat is now sleeping on a bright green beach towel.)
And I've seen Peek Freans in the 'luxury cookie' section of the local grocery store.
The sun's peaking up, the moon's slipping down, the temp here's about 23F...
The wonderful life of a criminal sociopath who could not be held accountable!!!
Rudy
Or: How a fake Cowboy can fuck up a country in twenty minutes.
Spruce Pine has a grand total of 8 African-American residents, 11 Native Americans and one Asian.
Of course, in North Carolina, my bet is that you're actually looking at the traditional Cherokee/Black folks, so that'll be a twofer.
It's the Asian presenting the threat of course. Damned outsider.
What's the next Bushboy regime scandal to be exposed?
What else is the NYTimes or WaPo not telling us? - in "the national interest" of course!
Is there any limit to the Bushboy crimes, blunders, failures, lies or treasons?
Probably not.
What else will this depraved moron do to harm/ruin the USA in the next three years?????
'sup Blak?
Same temp here. It has dropped 2 degrees in the last hour. Boo.
But at least some ex KGB types have cleaned up and some 'Merkin losers get their compliant slavic mail order brides.
SWR | 12.17.05 - 8:50 am
I think the merkins must be hard pressed to decide between the Philippinas, that's Jim Robinson of Freep's bag, he ran a mail order bride gig on the side. Or the ex-commies. At least the ex-commies are white.
I'm changing my handle to LibertyEagleNeocon Troll.
nah
let's just say, in the latter case at least, they'd try...
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar(aka | Email | 12.17.05 - 8:59 am | #
Seriously. The most common thing I see Freepers do is target some emotional 50 year old women and start putting video cameras two inches away from her nose to try to pick a fight and get it on video.
18 year old anarchists show up ready to fight and there aren't any cops?
Oh shit. Freepers run.
It's amazing just how much of their act is based upon confronting people who can't or don't want to fight back.
That's what pissed me off so much about Kerry in 2004. Same dynamic.
They didn't want the facts to interfere with the political process. That would be a sign of bias.
We've been so fucked over by the press. They let the screaming fundies and right wing radicals bully them into silence for fear of being *biased.* Now look at the mess we're in.
Bushboy: Faux Cowboy, Faux Fighter Pilot, Faux POTUS.
Naturally he's the hero of Faux News!
Clown Posse
A popular site for critics of Free Republic.
Right wing critics, that is.
http://www.clownposse.org/forum/...orum/
forums.asp
HBC's under the gun in an attempt at a hostile takeover, Moe. They do not care to be bought, 'enkew very much. The effort doesn't look like it's going to be successful.
Was just discussing with an Army historian that they might maybe examine how HBC brought its archives out of London to Winnipeg, so as to draw valuable lessons about transferring the records from Korea.
Not that it matters. I wouldn't want to work for the tree-killers now, there's a big shake-out coming for newspapers and magazines. Irrelavance is the least of their troubles. Time for a blogger ethics panel on the future of the MSM.
Oh golly what a talent to lie so glibly. Must be the total lack of conscience. Kay G: all the techniques we can possibly use - but torture is illegal. She already has regretted cutting back on the 'tools' available to us. Ugh.
Chocolate pie for breakfast, Saturnalia, yea!
WTF is wrong with the Times that they sat on this fucking story when they should have broken it before the election????? We had a right to know this.
bigvic"
this pisses me off almost as much as the spying itself, and so far i've yet to read a 'real' reason why they did so.
my guess: it all came down to their usual taste for chimpco preznit terkee
If you get bored.... From Clown Posse
JimRob's "Electronic Orchard" And The Asian Sex Trade?
There Are rumors that Jim's old site "Electronic Orchard" was actually used to illegally sell Asian sex slaves to individuals in the United States.
I think, now that the blogosphere is kicking Rimmy's ass over the whole FR Immigration Purge fiasco, now is a good time to post any information CPers have about what "Electronic Orchard" REALLY was.
So please, if you have ANY information about what Jim was up to with Electronic Orchard, please post it here.
There are many Liberal websites and bloggers that would LOVE to have information about Electronic Orchard's history.
I looked on Google, but didn't find anything incriminating.
So if you know something please post it here.
Thanks.
Liberal Bias on Lefty Blogs
Extreme Liberal Blogs claim that they are unbiased because they don't ban people. The lefty bloggers whine that they get banned on moderate mainstream blogs like LFG or Freep. The truth is that the so-called "tolerant" left-leaning blogs employ a mode of de facto censorship. If a poster shows up who doesn't toe the liberal party line shows up, this poster is attacked and then shunned. This amounts to restriction of free speech.
LibertyEagleNeocon
heh
Clean sheets, ahoy.
Happy Saturnalia, Moonbatriots!
I'd celebrate, but I'm too fucking depressed.
Shopping with Mrs. Moe can be quite an ordeal as we trip overselves to be oh so PC. Went to the Bay last year to buy a duvet. We couldn't get anything made in China, which was pretty much everything, but we finally found a duvet made by the Hutterites-- a sorta Amish-ish religous cult right here in Canadaland, so we got that. But a few months ago the Hutterites dropped their reluctance to get involved in secular politics in order to issue a futwa against the gay marriage law then winding its way through Parliament. We're considering sending the damn duvet back to the Hutterites with a nasty note attached, but it will have to wait until spring.
"attacked and then shunned. This amounts to restriction of free speech."
I would think it amounts to the failure of ______'s ideas in this particular marketplace...
Bushboy/Goopers promised to bring
"Integrity" back to the west wing
But after so many lies
and unsavory ties
We now know the regime's a fascist fling!
Good Morning,
Just got here and read this downstairs:
WATB Keller:
Officials also assured senior editors of the Times that a variety of legal checks had been imposed that satisfied everyone involved that the program raised no legal questions.>/i>
Why does the NYTime believe ANYTHING the administration tells them?
How many times do they have to be lied to?
Pathetic.
Impeach the bastard.
What else is the NYTimes or WaPo not telling us? - in "the national interest" of course!
Jeebus. Never thought I'live to see the day where a fake preznit makes Nixon look like a choir boy.
Yeah, Moe, but I'm pretty sure that the Hutterite ducks don't care much one way or the other. Next time tho, try the Doukhobours. When they get ticked off and walk away naked, you can get some real bargains in housewares.
Impeach the bastard.
Shaw Kenawe
Why does anybody believe anything Bushboy or his corrupt regime tell them!
Impeach, indict and convict the bastard and all his accomplices!!!
Then frog-march them off to prison and throw away the keys.....
When they get ticked off and walk away naked, you can get some real bargains in housewares.
Morning, moonbats.
Time for an early morning blogwhore and time for A Grassroots Campaign To Impeach The Resident.
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