I am still catching up, but one suggestion for whoever it is that leaked the data. Stand up in front of the public, tell us who you are, why you did it and take the lumps. Otherwise they are going to whitewash this with the investigation on the leak. Time to go down in history as a person of principle.
EkCenTriK |
12.17.05 - 11:30 am | #
I like that Feingold fella.
NYMary (SUNY) |
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12.17.05 - 11:30 am | #
If this one doesn't take chimpy down then it really is over. It will prove that he really can get away with anything, and he will act accordingly.
I have a bad feeling about this.
Teen LaQueefa |
12.17.05 - 11:32 am | #
wÒÓ†, seen Narnia yet?
It's good, but not great.
BlakNo1 |
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12.17.05 - 11:32 am | #
Feingold, stay outta my mind!
I just dropped a similar comment over at Democrats.org. GMfuckingTA, huh?
Well, it is the obvious line, though, ennit?
Doozer |
12.17.05 - 11:32 am | #
Straw that broke the camel's back. WWTJD? WWBFD?
Cakesniffer |
12.17.05 - 11:32 am | #
Feingold for President! That settles it.
Now I must needs get my sh*t together. Later toodles!
Halfdan |
12.17.05 - 11:32 am | #
"Those who would sacrifice essential liberties for a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin
The Truth |
12.17.05 - 11:33 am | #
wÒÓ†, seen Narnia yet?
It's good, but not great.
BlakNo1
No, I'm going to watch Kong die for my sins instead of Aslan.
wÒÓ† |
12.17.05 - 11:34 am | #
I wonder-- if Bush had to execute American citizens without trial because "national security" was at stake, would the media and Republicans happily rationalize it away?
Spooked |
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12.17.05 - 11:34 am | #
That address truly was Bush saying 'you can't touch me, nyah nyah nyah.'
That's fucking scary.
pseudonymous in nc |
12.17.05 - 11:34 am | #
I am Feingold's next ex-wife.
I can't wait! Bring it on, Russ!
Vicki Steingold, NMU, '82 |
12.17.05 - 11:34 am | #
I'll be at Kong on Monday so I don't have to deal with screaming kids/adults.
BlakNo1 |
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12.17.05 - 11:35 am | #
Bush has upped the ante.
Tim Finnegan |
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12.17.05 - 11:35 am | #
I wonder-- if Bush had to execute American citizens without trial because "national security" was at stake, would the media and Republicans happily rationalize it away?
You're kidding right?!?!?
Of course they would.
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TrebuchetNegro™Embigulator |
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12.17.05 - 11:36 am | #
That address truly was Bush saying 'you can't touch me, nyah nyah nyah.'
That's what I saw too, and it chilled me to the bone.
Teen LaQueefa |
12.17.05 - 11:36 am | #
It is either love America or the Constitution! You can't have both! We must destroy what we stand for to save the country!
Isn't it wonderful to live in a country where the President can clearly and admittedly break the law, yet have it not be clear that it is a bad thing.
Gore/Obama '08 |
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12.17.05 - 11:36 am | #
These are the times that try men's souls. Also the time to try our president. Impeachment was designed for just such an emergency.
hylander, master of obvious |
12.17.05 - 11:37 am | #
That's a loser, Feingold.
If Bush started wearing a Moonie crown, his approval ratings would go UP, not down.
Americans love monarchy. Disney has been training them to admire Lion Kings and Princesses for many days now.
The better word is Dictator.
Quacks |
12.17.05 - 11:37 am | #
How do you like my new last name?
Vicki Steingold, NMU, '82 |
12.17.05 - 11:37 am | #
When he overreach, it's time to impeach.
Directly Proportional |
12.17.05 - 11:37 am | #
Won't Al Gore be jealous?
BlakNo1 |
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12.17.05 - 11:38 am | #
does anyone really NOT think that there are much much worse things that still haven't come out about this administration? For instance, doesn't the idea that they actively facilitated 9/11 seem quite likely now?
Spooked |
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12.17.05 - 11:38 am | #
GO RUSS!
GWPDA UCLA/UT/Oxon |
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12.17.05 - 11:38 am | #
I guess you're taken, huh Vicki? Got any sisters?
Moe Szyslak (Chico State) |
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12.17.05 - 11:39 am | #
does anyone really NOT think that there are much much worse things that still haven't come out about this administration?
The things we will find out about this so-called "admin" in about 10-20 years will scare us to death.
BlakNo1 |
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12.17.05 - 11:39 am | #
Won't Al Gore be jealous?
BlakNo1
I thought of that, but then decided that Al has Tipper, and Russ is more my type...
Vicki Steingold, NMU, '82 |
12.17.05 - 11:40 am | #
But is there a blue dress??
Gore/Obama '08 |
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12.17.05 - 11:40 am | #
Russ, Ich hob dir lieb!
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Dartanyon |
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12.17.05 - 11:40 am | #
WWWAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
Shorter Feingold |
12.17.05 - 11:40 am | #
Damn, just damn.
(We need to meet in Washingtong soon. Seriously.)
DWD - Hope/GVSU/CMU |
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12.17.05 - 11:41 am | #
Well Batties - Good morning.
It may take awhile for this to shake down, but we've been here before - right here. The preznit didn't survive it last time.
Tena |
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12.17.05 - 11:41 am | #
The things we will find out about this so-called "admin" in about 10-20 years will scare us to death.
BlakNo1
We said that about Reagan and Bush 41, but a lot of those papers are still under wraps because they are too connected to the same Busheviks that have been running the country over a cliff now. {And makes me scratch my head about the motivation behind Wolfowitz to the World Bank move even more...}
Tom - 大肚腩 |
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12.17.05 - 11:41 am | #
The TV mannequins disgust me. They're defending the acts of the tyrant. I actually witnessed some barbie doll defending Bush and arguing against Buchanan. But the most offensive was last night, on the "revamped" Nightline (don't waste time watching it). The new co-anchor Cynthia McFadden sat there and repeatedly made the arguments why what Bush does is fine, literally engaging in an argument with her guest (some senator).
It was yet another shameful moment in journamalism where the lead talking head was not enlightening the viewers, but instead making arguments to justify the acts of the king.
puppethead |
12.17.05 - 11:42 am | #
I guess you're taken, huh Vicki? Got any sisters?
Moe Szyslak (Chico State)
Yep. Are you interested in the Soup Nazilike nurse practitioner, or the overly talkative air traffic controller, or the The Hamhock of Liberty's lambchop, or the delusional Diva?
Vicki Steingold, NMU, '82 |
12.17.05 - 11:42 am | #
Nixon, Bush-
as has been said before,
scratch a republican, and you find a monarchist.
Same old story, really...
sandiaman proud luddite |
12.17.05 - 11:43 am | #
The fact that they passively facilitated the 911 attacks has been well established.
Tim Finnegan |
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12.17.05 - 11:43 am | #
Feingold Clark 2008
Or Clark Feingold
Spitzer For Attorney General to put them all in jail.
Delaware Dem |
12.17.05 - 11:44 am | #
puppethead - I'd love to see the guest in that situation just turn around every single time and ask: "How much did the administration pay you to say that?"
I mean every time. Let them deny it - doesn't matter. The idea would still get out there.
Tena |
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12.17.05 - 11:44 am | #
I love the fact that the cablenewsers have the fluffy Saturday staff in, who are basically incapable of doing serious interviews.
Let's see what the Sunday bobbleheads make of Bush trying to out-Nixon Nixon.
pseudonymous in nc - Oxon |
12.17.05 - 11:44 am | #
Tena,
I think you're right.
And I hope your dinner party goes fabulously well.
With that note, I'm off for a bit. I could literally sit here all day and get nothing that I need to do done, you guys are so interesting.
Vicki Steingold, NMU, '82 |
12.17.05 - 11:44 am | #
THERE IT IS!
Shorter Feingold |
12.17.05 - 11:45 am | #
Let's not lose sight of the fact that the PATRIOT Act was written prior to 9/11 and "in the can", waiting for the right time to introduce it. There isn't a single thing in there that has anything to do with the terrorist acts—the Bush government was planning to gain all of those powers regardless.
puppethead |
12.17.05 - 11:45 am | #
Let's see what the Sunday bobbleheads make of Bush trying to out-Nixon Nixon.
As they weren't born when it happened and undoubtedly didn't read or absorb the narrative, I don't expect them to notice.
"Wiretapping? Is that bad? No? Okay, then!"
NYMary (SUNY) |
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12.17.05 - 11:46 am | #
Are you interested in the Soup Nazilike nurse practitioner, or the overly talkative air traffic controller, or the The Hamhock of Liberty's lambchop, or the delusional Diva?
Hmmm. Let me ask Mrs. Moe.
Moe Szyslak (Chico State) |
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12.17.05 - 11:46 am | #
Too pretentious to list my academic accomplishments (as most of them would deny I was ever there)
DWD - Chronicler of Evil |
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12.17.05 - 11:46 am | #
Shocking, indeed. Even for this criminal gang, Bu$h's statements about authorizing spying on 'Merkins gave me the chill.
Feingold hit just the right tone.
bigvic |
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12.17.05 - 11:47 am | #
If only everyone's outrage meters hadn't overloaded years ago!
Prior Aelred |
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12.17.05 - 11:47 am | #
Here, Mr. Feingold. You take my chair. I see you've just put yours to good use.
Hecate |
12.17.05 - 11:48 am | #
WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush said Saturday he has no intention of stopping his personal authorizations of a post-Sept. 11 secret eavesdropping program in the U.S., lashing out at those involved in revealing it while defending it as crucial to preventing future attacks.
``This is a highly classified program that is crucial to our national security,'' he said in a radio address delivered live from the White House's Roosevelt Room.
``This authorization is a vital tool in our war against the terrorists. It is critical to saving American lives. The American people expect me to do everything in my power, under our laws and Constitution, to protect them and their civil liberties and that is exactly what I will continue to do as long as I am president of the United States,'' Bush said.
Moonbootica, Yule-ologist |
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12.17.05 - 11:48 am | #
If only everyone's outrage meters hadn't overloaded years ago!
You have to set the limiter switch on the back of the unit. Just turn the screw back 1 1/2 turns and it'll shut it down before the needle pegs and breaks off.
Teen LaQueefa |
12.17.05 - 11:50 am | #
It's all wrong, and the shit's coming down, you can smell the fear the air. Desperate politicans do desperate things. This is surely that.
Tim Finnegan |
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12.17.05 - 11:50 am | #
fortunately my outrage meter goes to 11
Atrios |
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12.17.05 - 11:51 am | #
"Those who would sacrifice essential liberties for a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin
Didn't this crackpot Franklin have something to do with starting those dangerous terrorist training sites otherwise known as public libraries? And what's he doing out there in the rain flying kites? Very suspicious behavior. Clever sayings be damned, string the bastard up.
tbone |
12.17.05 - 11:51 am | #
Let's see what the Sunday bobbleheads make of Bush trying to out-Nixon Nixon.
They will love it.
I'm convinced the real reason Nixon went down was he didn't have the proper pedigree for the Rethug elite -- so when he screwed up, they cut him loose.
Toonscribe (UTKnoxville) |
12.17.05 - 11:51 am | #
I wonder-- if Bush had to execute American citizens without trial because "national security" was at stake, would the media and Republicans happily rationalize it away?
Spooked | Email | Homepage | 12.17.05 - 11:34 am | #
Ummmmm, yeah im sure he would.... hes probably done alot worse than that... and thers also the 30,000 "or so" Iraqis who had to go to another astral plane because americans had to be safe... even though the intelligence was wrong.
red |
12.17.05 - 11:51 am | #
Joe Wilson did a thing on CSPAN a while back with a bunch of other authors, and he said that he'd spoken to people who remembered 1930s Germany, and knew what it felt like and smelt like.
I think I'm getting that aroma wafting from the White House.
pseudonymous in nc - Oxon |
12.17.05 - 11:52 am | #
WTF are they calling it "eavesdropping"? Spying sounds too ugly?
NYMary (SUNY) |
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12.17.05 - 11:52 am | #
I really like Feingold
I'd vote for him
But I honestly can't see a Jew (recently divorced as well) winning at the otp of the ticket -- especially with the Electoral College
OTOH, I'd sure welcome him to a VP slot if he continues as he has begun
Prior Aelred |
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12.17.05 - 11:53 am | #
I really like Feingold
I'd vote for him
But I honestly can't see a Jew (recently divorced as well) winning at the otp of the ticket -- especially with the Electoral College
OTOH, I'd sure welcome him to a VP slot if he continues as he has begun
Prior Aelred |
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12.17.05 - 11:53 am | #
"It's all wrong, and the shit's coming down, you can smell the fear the air. Desperate politicans do desperate things. This is surely that."
That is what I am getting from the bits of the speech today that I have seen. And that is why I suggest the leaker step forward so they can't cloud this issue with him or her for months to come. Bush stepped forward as a tactic, not as a response to a critical infringement. He knows he is cornered on this, so lash out, change the topic and run like hell. Don't let them do it.
EkCenTriK |
12.17.05 - 11:53 am | #
Someone at Digby's comments pointed out that Bush has tried to redefine his role as 'defending the American people', when his oath says explicitly that his job is to uphold and defend the Constitution.
The idea being that if you do that, the people can defend themselves.
Oh, and chief executives using that sort of language don't have a good pedigree.
pseudonymous in nc - Oxon |
12.17.05 - 11:54 am | #
what do you bet that they are spying on all the people who post here?
by the way google saves all your searches you have ever done. They know a
lot more about you than you think.
bingo in the tin foil hat |
12.17.05 - 11:54 am | #
If only everyone's outrage meters hadn't overloaded years ago!
That's why science invented Captopril for high blood pressure.
Works well -- trust me.
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Dartanyon |
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12.17.05 - 11:54 am | #
Maybe I should clarify: adjust the small screw, not the big one. Never touch the big one, ever.
Teen LaQueefa |
12.17.05 - 11:54 am | #
my outrage metre is quitly ticking over.
Moonbootica, Yule-ologist |
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12.17.05 - 11:55 am | #
I have nothing to hide. What are they gonna do, read my blog?
Tim Finnegan |
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12.17.05 - 11:56 am | #
by the way google saves all your searches you have ever done. They know a
lot more about you than you think.
I guess they also know what sentences from my students' papers I think mught be plagiarized.
NYMary (SUNY) |
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12.17.05 - 11:56 am | #
-- if Bush had to execute American citizens without trial because "national security" was at stake, would the media and Republicans happily rationalize it away?
Spooked
You better believe it. They've rationalized the murder of Iraqis mistakenly imprisoned as terrorists, and all kinds criminal activity and stolen elections so anything goes with this gang of crooks and liars.
bigvic |
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12.17.05 - 11:56 am | #
I just kick my outrage meter and make sure the vents are clear so it doesn't overheat.
NYMary (SUNY) |
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12.17.05 - 11:56 am | #
"If only everyone's outrage meters hadn't overloaded years ago!"
I shut mine off for good. The electric bills were getting too high.
tbone |
12.17.05 - 11:56 am | #
Bush has it exactly wrong:
"The American people expect me to do everything under my power under our laws and Constitution to protect them and their civil liberties," Bush said, "and that is exactly what I will continue to do so long as I am the president of the United States."
No. No, no, no, no, no.
The American people expect the president to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.
Bluntly put, the protection of the lives of Americans is secondary to preserving the Constitution. Bush has it exactly backwards. His job is not to protect American lives by ignoring the framework that preserves those lives and the liberty that makes those lives worthwhile.
anon |
12.17.05 - 11:56 am | #
by the way google saves all your searches you have ever done
That's why they've opened a new storage facility in Phoenix. Keeps all those searches nice and dry.
GWPDA UCLA/UT/Oxon |
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12.17.05 - 11:57 am | #
Heck, I grew up 40 miles away from a very large 'RAF' base that's actually the European branch of Echelon, where the NSA does its spying outside the borders. More fibre-optic cable runs into that bit of Yorkshire than most big cities.
(For their benefit, M-x spook: mania Manfurov Honduras Ron Brown top secret industrial espionage BLU-97 A/B emc Ft. Bragg constitution freedom CNCIS KGB Khaddafi AIMSX)
pseudonymous in nc - Oxon |
12.17.05 - 11:57 am | #
My outrage meter is in metric, so it goes a bit further.
pseudonymous in nc - Oxon |
12.17.05 - 11:58 am | #
Com'on now, its not as though we're as bad as the Evil Empire. They tortured people and held people without charges and spied on their own people and had secret laws, and secret prisons, and controlled the press.... Man its amazing the freedoms some people will give up to preserve their freedom.
Shemp |
12.17.05 - 11:58 am | #
I just kick my outrage meter and make sure the vents are clear so it doesn't overheat.
Ahh, you have an older model then. Just remember to check the fluid levels every now and then and it should last forever.
Teen LaQueefa |
12.17.05 - 12:00 pm | #
{Maybe I should clarify: adjust the small screw, not the big one. Never touch the big one, ever.
Teen LaQueefa | 12.17.05 - 11:54 am | #}
I wonder-- if Bush had to execute American citizens without trial because "national security" was at stake, would the media and Republicans happily rationalize it away? Spooked - 11:34 am
Even as a teenager, I was struck with this exchange in the excellent "Little Big Man":
Little Big Man: "But why do you want to die, Grandfather?"
Old Lodge Skins: "Because there is no other way to deal with the white man, my son. Whatever else you can say about them, it must be admitted... you cannot get rid of them... There is an endless supply of white men, but there always has been a limited number of human beings*... We won today... We won't win tomorrow."
*I don't know if this is historically/linguistically accurate, but somewhere in the film it is stated that "Cheyenne" translates as "human beings".
I admit I am inclined to Old Lodge Skins' pessimism, like WGG and DWD. But I hope I'm wrong.
It's a given that We the People won't stand for the return of the very tyranny, oppression, and injustice that occasioned the war of rebellion and establishment of our independent nation. But We the People, the "human beings", are an embattled minority.
The criminal regime, and They the Sheeple in its thrall, presently have the power and the numbers. Questions and controversies about civil liberties go way over the heads of the sheeple, as amply demonstrated by the troll-vermin which infest this site. Broadly speaking, the sheeple have always been too dim and childlike to grasp the pernicious insidiousness of such abuses of power. Rather, they are content with blind trust and uncritical acceptance of authority.
I expect that the sheeple will continue to be willfully bamboozled by Ruling Class demagogues and their media-whore stenographers and cheerleaders. They hold their purple fingers up between their eye and the sun and believe that they've made the sun disappear.
So it remains to be seen whether the political class and We the People can form a critical mass sufficient to reverse our sociopolitical fortunes.
I'm keeping my undyed fingers crossed.
Little Brøther |
12.17.05 - 12:01 pm | #
Hey , c'mon guys.
Whats with this outrage about the NSA spying on Americans to keep us safe?
After all, we all know the real real domestic terrorists are white, consverative Christians veterans, right?
( Yeah I know, the OKC bombings were SO pre-911...)
sandiaman proud luddite |
12.17.05 - 12:01 pm | #
Shemp,
I would give up all my freedom to be free. That's how important freedom is to me.
tbone |
12.17.05 - 12:02 pm | #
Someone at Digby's comments pointed out that Bush has tried to redefine his role as 'defending the American people', when his oath says explicitly that his job is to uphold and defend the Constitution.
He don't need no stinkin' Constitution. He's the royal preznit!
bigvic |
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12.17.05 - 12:03 pm | #
The Palestinian Authority and Hamas have rejected a resolution by the US House of Representatives that would condition American aid on the exclusion of Hamas from parliamentary elections in January.
The resolution, passed on Friday by a majority vote, warned that the participation of Hamas in the Palestinian government would "potentially undermine the ability of the United States to have a constructive relationship with or provide further assistance to the Palestinian Authority".
Moreover, the resolution, supported by the pro-Israeli lobbying group AIPAC, said the participation of Hamas, a welfare and resistance movement, in the legislative polls "will inevitably raise serious questions for the United States about the commitment of the PA and its leadership to making peace with Israel".
Moonbootica, Yule-ologist |
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12.17.05 - 12:07 pm | #
Shit!
Prior Aelred
it's OK. this is an opportunity to go out and get one of those new-fangled log-scale outrage meters with LED readout and wireless remote.
of course, it's made in China, but that's alright. The CEO who's bringing home the seven-figure paycheck is American.
theodoric |
12.17.05 - 12:08 pm | #
Senator Russ Feingold (D-WI), Senator Patrick Leahy (D-VT), and Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA) blast the Bush Administration for their abuse of our civil liberties (video).
The Second Amendment is starting to look a whole lot more reasonable, these days, isn't it?
The Founders were a smart bunch of people. They LIVED through and under a regime that bears some striking similarities to Chimpy's.
They were sincere, patriotic British subjects, who could not understand why their beloved sovereign was treating them in such a way.
Time and again, they entreated the Crown and Parliament to treat them as the loyal British subjects they felt themselves to be.
When it finally dawned on them the crown considered them as less then the dust beneath his royal shoes, then, and only then, did they take up the musket and rifle.
The Founders, knowing full well that too much power in the hands of ANYONE was a Bad Thing, created the three branches of our government and imbued each with the power to check the actions of the others.
And then, because they KNEW that, in the words of Jefferson, "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it's natural manure."the Second Amendment was put in place.
One has but to read their letters and comments to know that they fully intended that Amendment to be a final check upon the excesses of the very government they themselves had fought for and sacrificed so much for to bring forth.
Are we at that point yet, when we MUST take up arms against the feculent toads that squat in the White House and call the Constitution "A fucking piece of paper!"?
I hope not.
I pray not.
But I have my guns. I have them legally stored in Vermont. As a citizen of Massachusetts I am following the laws here, and do not wish to deal with the paperwork involved to have them here.
Should the time come, should the need arise, I will damn the laws of the Commonwealth and take up arms in the defense of that "Fucking piece of paper" and strive to the last to defend it against all enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC!
Chris Tucker |
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12.17.05 - 12:26 pm | #
Bluntly put, the protection of the lives of Americans is secondary to preserving the Constitution. Bush has it exactly backwards. His job is not to protect American lives by ignoring the framework that preserves those lives and the liberty that makes those lives worthwhile.
anon | 12.17.05 - 11:56 am
Besides, it's not as if he's even protecting American lives....
filkertom |
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12.17.05 - 12:30 pm | #
Damn--I just noticed my outrage meter was made by Diebold....
robthehearthrob |
12.17.05 - 12:35 pm | #
Besides, it's not as if he's even protecting American lives....
filkertom
Exactly.
that is partly what makes this so outrageous - we ain't any safer. Spying on Americans is not going to make us any safer, either. But the Right is going to argue this point for all its worth and then some.
Tena |
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12.17.05 - 12:36 pm | #
I've been saying it for a couple of years, now, Tena, and I've lost friends for saying it: They are evil. Bush is evil. Cheney -- evil. Rummy, Condi, Frist, Hastert, Ashcroft now Gonzales, Wolfowitz, everybody down to the kid who makes the coffee -- evil, the enablers of evil. How they can do this much damage to America's laws, people, defense, environment, treasure, and reputation, and consider themselves American, I have no clue.
Hell, maybe they don't. Maybe they really do have dreams of empire, with a new name or somethin'.
filkertom |
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12.17.05 - 12:40 pm | #
Little Brøther @ 12:01 pm
Wonderful movie but Old Lodge Skins is a more endearing character in the movie than the book, I think & the movie's conclusion is more enjoyable -- in the movie OLS skins his death song & lies down to die but the rain splatters on his face:
OLS: Am I still in this world?
DH: Yes, Grandfather.
OLS: Well, sometimes the magic works and sometimes it doesn't.
OLS (as they walk back down the hill toward the camp): I have a new wife. She's a Comanche. They like to copulate with horses. She says she doesn't. That's why I call her Doesn't Like Horses." Of course she's lying.
In the book, he dies.
And yes, ethnologicts tell us that most "primitive" peoples have terms that describe their own tribe as "human beings" & other groups... get a somewhat less complimentary appellation
Prior Aelred |
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12.17.05 - 12:40 pm | #
When you call people evil you take away from the true meaning of the word. None of these people are evil, they are just different than us, high-society types have almost a different culture, it's hard for most people to understand the pressures they are under. All most people do all day is live in their SAFE terrorist free lives and watch the news and judge. These people keep you SAFE and we owe them respect.
annieangel |
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12.17.05 - 12:45 pm | #
I just realized that annieangel is a parody -- not as good as patriotboy was when he was snotglass (before he became Jesus' General), but pretty good.
snotglass was awesome -- better than anybody @ NRO
Prior Aelred |
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12.17.05 - 12:48 pm | #
annieangel -- nope, sorry. You are so completely wrong that it hurts my heart to think about it.
They lied our country into a war.
They justify torture.
They take money from poor people and give it to their rich friends.
They spy on their own people to keep them in line.
They say they will protect us, and do nothing to do so.
They let New Orleans die.
They have done so many other things, I can't even catalogue them all here, because it will take all day.
And they demonstably lie to us about all of them, again and again and again.
How are they not evil?
filkertom |
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12.17.05 - 12:48 pm | #
Oh so now you have nothing to say so I'm a joke? Last night I was some kind of government plant. LOL! Is anyone on this site old enough to vote in the first place??? Sheesh!
annieangel |
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12.17.05 - 12:57 pm | #
Let New Orleans die?? LOL! New Orleans is a swamp! Always has been! The only livable portion of the city when it was built is still livable today. It never should have been born, and I lived there for YEARS! That city is in my heart, and it was already DEAD then, just lying in an open casket sheesh!!
Annie, it is obvious these people have nothing to say to you and that is why they are making such incoherent posts.
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12.17.05 - 1:18 pm | #
OH MY GOD!! I went to your site and judging by YOUR outfit you're a BIG FAT IDIOT!
Oh man, I almost cared what you thought of me, LOL!
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12.17.05 - 1:20 pm | #
What reality are you living in? Bush is still the President, nothing more and nothing less. He has not declared himelf Emperor or any such thing, this is the most baseless libel.
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12.17.05 - 1:39 pm | #
These people keep you SAFE and we owe them respect.
annieangel
They haven't given me jack shit and I owe them nothing.
I've lived my whole life with a finger in the air and a close watch on my back. The safety I have is solely through my own effort. That and driving 55-60 and yielding to everyone that wants in front of me.
Sorry fascist. Tell it to New Orleans.
bcf |
12.17.05 - 1:45 pm | #
What reality are you living in? Bush is still the President, nothing more and nothing less. He has not declared himelf Emperor or any such thing, this is the most baseless libel.
shoelimpy™
Same one as Larry Craig, John Sununu and Chuck Hagel, I guess.
bcf |
12.17.05 - 1:51 pm | #
mmmmm...got me some CARNIVORE info here..plucked out of the ether
that and i am pissed there will be no torture college!
mogwai |
12.17.05 - 1:51 pm | #
Bush is more like a Roman Caesar than a constitutional monarch, actually.
Feingold is a gem but he and Kerry need to learn about complex sentences, antecedents and listeners' short attention spans. Feingold's statement can be read to be making the opposite point that he intended.
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12.17.05 - 1:51 pm | #
I'm not a facist, I'm a Republican! An integral part of what makes America great! This baseless namecalilng over politics is going to drive us to civil war, and remember, most military is Christian, Republic and Patriotic!
annieangel |
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12.17.05 - 1:53 pm | #
This whole government survellance (sp?) thing is kind of a surprise to me. I thought they already had these powers.
Wow, I've been living in the future
Don't call me clueless for nothing.
Citizen Clueless |
12.17.05 - 2:16 pm | #
Prior A,
As I recall, it took ages for them to discover that Jesus' General was a parody, and man oh man were they pissed.
Personally, I think most of our trolls are parody trolls. Some are just funnier than others.
NYMary (SUNY) |
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12.17.05 - 2:22 pm | #
And Republicans have been doing their level best to destroy America for the last 40 years. Certainly since Goldwater.
NYMary |
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12.17.05 - 2:23 pm | #
Ronald Reagan is the one of the greatest Presidents in American history, and certainly the greatest in the last half of the 20th Century.
shoelimpy™ |
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12.17.05 - 2:29 pm | #
My daughter burned me the "X&Y" CD and I checked it out.
I like!
Terry C, Sublime Bush Hater |
12.17.05 - 2:36 pm | #
Ronald Reagan is the one of the greatest Presidents in American history, and certainly the greatest in the last half of the 20th Century.
shoelimpy™
Has to be a parody.
I wonder if it said its prayers before it posted that pack of BS.
Terry C, Sublime Bush Hater |
12.17.05 - 2:37 pm | #
"We have a president, not a king, and that's the way he's talking,"
King Fuckwit the First.
Terry C, Sublime Bush Hater |
12.17.05 - 2:49 pm | #
I'm not a facist, I'm a Republican! An integral part of what makes America great! This baseless namecalilng over politics is going to drive us to civil war, and remember, most military is Christian, Republic and Patriotic!
annieangel
Fucking crazy troll!
Terry C, Sublime Bush Hater |
12.17.05 - 2:49 pm | #
Terry, why do you consider Republicans to be trolls? Why do you hate everybody so much? Is that all you Democrats can do is hate?
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12.17.05 - 2:51 pm | #
Ronald Reagan is the one of the greatest Presidents in American history, and certainly the greatest in the last half of the 20th Century.
Especially since the doddering old fool was senile from the time Hinckley capped his ass.
Billy B |
12.17.05 - 2:51 pm | #
Terry has had it in for me since last night.
annieangel |
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12.17.05 - 3:04 pm | #
That is no way to speak about one of our Presidents, Billy B.
shoelimpy™ |
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12.17.05 - 3:15 pm | #
I'm not a facist, I'm a Republican!
It's getting increasingly difficult to tell the difference between one, and the other.
Seraphiel |
12.17.05 - 4:52 pm | #
Bush told Dick Gephart the day he was pronounced "Selected" by the Supremes, "This would all be a whole lot easier if you just made me Dictator."
Well, he's a dic-something for sure.
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