HULK SMASHED
Jihad!
first
to be illegally spied upon by Bush
Is it legal? The president says yes. Critics say no. Judiciary Chairman Arlen Specter says his committee will hold hearings in the new year.
All you need to know about the contemporary punditocracy, right there.
curses! foiled again!
Yeehaw!
Is it legal: HELL NO. IT IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY LAW.
prez says yes, 'critics" say no...
media: (shrugs) i guess we'll never really know!
No, no, DWD. See, there's THE PRESIDENT and then there's those mean people who don't like him anyway, HIS CRITICS. Thank god we have an entrenched party operative in the president's party to sort this all out. What a relief!
Impeach. Convict. Hand over to the Hague!
Is 5 below zero warm? The president says yes-critics say no.
It's like Condi said: We've redefined the law so that whatever we are doing to detainees, it's not torture.
And if the President does it, it's not illegal.
Let's just get it over with and call him a King, or Führer, or whatever.
He sure isn't a President, except in the banana republic sense of the word.
Pitchforks and torches time...
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What do judges say?
What the fuck is she talking about?
Illegal wrietaps pertain to all Murkins and not just blonde, blue eyed Europeans.
Am I missing something here?
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The Madness of King George.
Is 5 below zero warm? The president says yes-critics say no.
Paul, no not that one | 12.17.05 - 11:51 am | #
Nice one, Paul!
Shorter version of Bush's speech this morning:
"yeah, I did it, now whatcha gonna do about it, punk?"
or
"It's good to be the king!"
Subpoena John Yoo now.
Targeting Muslims of America would definitely have nabbed McVeigh and the Unibomber, doncha know?
DER SPIEGEL: Well, a former intelligence official tells Der Spiegel tonight that the people most likely to be swept up in this are listed in a SS database, Klaus, called Jews of Germany. But most people targeted are never charged with a crime. And one former official says this does amount to a giant electronic fishing expedition. Is it legal? Der Fuhrer says yes. Critics say no.
Boy, do I wish I could be Muslim and living in America. I'd have my very own database.
Some people have all the luck.
you just missed a "fair and balanced" panel on MSRNC with Juilan Epstien and Pat "if the president does it, its not illegal" Buchanan.
Epstein starts off by saying he is in favor of the patriot act, so he's not questionable like other dems. Than he says he agrees with Pat that whomever leaked this story to the press should be investigated criminally.
Epstein does manage to fit in that they should go to a secret court to show a minimal amount of evidence before wire tapping.
With Vichy democrats like this on TV, its no wonder we can't get a majority. He was the absolute worst in mealy mouth apologists.
At least Buchanen stands up for what he believes in. This panel was Republican and a DLC member. Some balance.
Agents' visit chills UMass Dartmouth senior
By AARON NICODEMUS, Standard-Times staff writer
http://www.southcoasttoday.com/d...05/
a09lo650.htm
NEW BEDFORD -- A senior at UMass Dartmouth was visited by federal agents two months ago, after he requested a copy of Mao Tse-Tung's tome on Communism called "The Little Red Book."
Two history professors at UMass Dartmouth, Brian Glyn Williams and Robert Pontbriand, said the student told them he requested the book through the UMass Dartmouth library's interlibrary loan program.
The student, who was completing a research paper on Communism for Professor Pontbriand's class on fascism and totalitarianism, filled out a form for the request, leaving his name, address, phone number and Social Security number. He was later visited at his parents' home in New Bedford by two agents of the Department of Homeland Security, the professors said.
The professors said the student was told by the agents that the book is on a "watch list," and that his background, which included significant time abroad, triggered them to investigate the student further.
"I tell my students to go to the direct source, and so he asked for the official Peking version of the book," Professor Pontbriand said. "Apparently, the Department of Homeland Security is monitoring inter-library loans, because that's what triggered the visit, as I understand it."
etc.
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OK, but did they look under his bed? And if they are doing this to him, what are they doing with this server log?
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OT, but hey, NYMary - whaddaya think of "Thanks for Christmas" by the Three Wise Men?
Got an MP3 if you'd like...
We're all Muslim now.
The real Bush Administration war:
The Great War On Information
Is it legal? The president says yes. Critics say no.
Is the earth flat, Andrea? Is it?
... 'kay, if it's only Muslims being affected --
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(Andrea's starting to look and sound more and more like an addled stewing hen.)
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But this does nothing to stop the growing Quaker menace!
Do bears shit in the woods? Yogi says yes, the makers of Charmin say no.
Muslims of America
Oh, well then it's okay. Nothing to see here, move along.
NYMary is already saying everything I have to say...
Is it legal? The president says yes. Critics say no.
Since when does the president get to decide what's legal? Because his flunkies so advised him? Did he ask for dissenting opinions before making his decision?
Nevermind. I already know the answer.
But this does nothing to stop the growing Quaker menace!
SHHH!!! You can't let them know we're on to 'em.(looks around nervously for NTodd)
And I'm sorry, Andrea, this isn't about 'critics'. This is about the fucking US Code saying no. And if you regard the fucking US Code as a 'critic' of the President, then that's prima facie evidence that he needs to be motherfucking impeached.
OK, but did they look under his bed? And if they are doing this to him, what are they doing with this server log?
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QuentinCompson Killing Rats | Homepage | 12.17.05 - 11:57 am | #
I can't tell whether the agents really think that reading stuff on communism is 'bad' or that they just wanted a copy for themselves, for 'research' purposes.
As GWDPA pointed out earlier this morning, the fact that they really are looking at ILL's is very troubling indeed.
My jaw dropped last night too when I heard her say that. Here's the podcast: http://podcast.msnbc.com/audio/p...2005-
162605.mp3
The comment occurs at the end of the first segment about the NSA wiretaps.
This cannot wait until next year. He has to be impeached NOW.
What the Illegal Bush Wiretaps Were Likely All About: seeing what people in the US knew about who was really behind 9/11. These weren't terrorists they were spying on, I bet these were people who may have had info about the Bush administration being involved in 9/11. This is why they wanted to keep the wiretaps secret.
Remember, torture isn't used to obtain information-- it's used to elicit false testimony that supports the "official" story (whatever that may be).
So very likely, these wiretaps weren't used to obtain information-- they were used to find out who had info that didn't support the "official" 9/11 story.
I am sorry, this is really upsetting me. What gives this MAN the right to break OUR laws at his whim? What gives THEM the right to justify the breaking of OUR laws?
In the end, are we a country of laws or of men?
Useless and illicit sumbitches.
Was curious about how the other side is dealing with this, and so checked in at The Corner.
Not many posts about it, and none at all until 12:06 PM yesterday. (They were mostly preoccupied with the Patriot Act.) All posts support Bush, with Byron York taking the role of lead attorney for the defense.
Of course, in an alternate universe where each "Bush" in yesterday's NY Times article was replaced by a "Clinton" (or Kerry, or Gore), every post for the last 30 hours would have been about impeachment . . .
OT, but hey, NYMary - whaddaya think of "Thanks for Christmas" by the Three Wise Men?
Don't know it, but send it along!
I wonder-- if Bush had to execute American citizens without trial because "national security" was at stake, would the media and Republicans happily rationalize it away? Spooked - 11:34 am
Even as a teenager, I was struck with this exchange in the excellent "Little Big Man":
Little Big Man: "But why do you want to die, Grandfather?"
Old Lodge Skins: "Because there is no other way to deal with the white man, my son. Whatever else you can say about them, it must be admitted... you cannot get rid of them... There is an endless supply of white men, but there always has been a limited number of human beings*... We won today... We won't win tomorrow."
*I don't know if this is historically/linguistically accurate, but somewhere in the film it is stated that "Cheyenne" translates as "human beings".
I admit I am inclined to Old Lodge Skins' pessimism, like WGG and DWD. But I hope I'm wrong.
It's a given that We the People won't stand for the very tyranny, oppression, and injustice that occasioned the war of rebellion and establishment of our independent nation. But We the People, the "human beings", are an embattled minority.
The criminal regime, and They the Sheeple in its thrall, presently have the power and the numbers. Questions and controversies about civil liberties go way over the heads of the sheeple, as amply demonstrated by the troll-vermin which infest this site. Broadly speaking, the sheeple have always been too dim and childlike to grasp the pernicious insidiousness of such abuses of power. Rather, they are content with blind trust and uncritical acceptance of authority.
I expect that the sheeple will continue to be willfully bamboozled by Ruling Class demagogues and their media-whore stenographers and cheerleaders. They hold their purple fingers up between their eye and the sun and believe that they've made the sun disappear.
So it remains to be seen whether the political class and We the People can form a critical mass sufficient to reverse our sociopolitical fortunes.
I'm keeping my undyed fingers crossed.
Fuck Bush!
Next - Haloscan! Right up the colon separator.
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"he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed,"
Article II, section 3.
I am sorry, this is really upsetting me
Don't be sorry, you should be upset. This is bullshit.
na na na na
hey hey hey
Was curious about how the other side is dealing with this, and so checked in at The Corner.
Assrocket has spoken. Whoever leaked this must be punished; it also means that Rove and Libby are innocent of everything. Instafuckwit agrees.
It seems the War on Terror might have come home as a war on Islam. Be afraid of this.
It seems the War on Terror might have come home as a war on Islam. Be afraid of this.
Hey there, gang. Is it time for impeachment yet?
Hah! Trick question. It has been for at least three years.
the people most likely to be swept up in this
I take this to mean that no one is excluded.
Hey, Blak!
Thinking about the Nixon "If the president doe it, it's not a crime" line of argument.
Wasn't Nixon at least a lawyer? So Bush, not a lawyer, actually has no idea, does he?
a Homeland Security database, Brian, called Muslims of America.
I wonder if they have the gall to list Muhammad Ali in that database, Brian?
Mother of GOD, these folks creep me out!
Hey filk, seen Narnia yet?
As I said earlier, it's good but not great.
Well it's time for me to dive through a neighborhood where I'll be looked at closely for driving a car under $30,000.
"he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed,"
And indeed they are, with a bullet to the brain.
CNN really does have the third-string staff on duty today. MSNBC is doing its movie preview show.
Of course, in an alternate universe where each "Bush" in yesterday's NY Times article was replaced by a "Clinton" (or Kerry, or Gore), every post for the last 30 hours would have been about impeachment . . .
I still can't believe that people who should be normally shouting in outrage about this are pretending that the law and the Constitution don't matter because of their politics.
It's really sickening. Also sickening that they were more *outraged* about a blowjob than they are about someone trampling all over our liberties and targeting innocent people.
They're contemptible.
Hey filkersweeto!
Mother of GOD these folks scare the hell out of me.
And indeed they are, with a bullet to the brain.
But not before they're faithfully interrogated, up to but not including organ damage.
Whoever leaked this must be punished
Yeah, they're big on that, too. Best defense is a good offense, and so on.
What the fuck is with the media, that they are not appalled with this? Why are they not, as one, Repub and Dem alike, quoting the Fourth Amendment and pointing out that Chimpy McJerkface claiming he has to spy because it's a time of war when he started the fucking war is exactly like murdering your parents and then throwing yourself on the mercy of the court because you're an orphan?
NYMary, I think his ignorance is actually boundless.
Little Brother - I am what is called an optimistic pessimist. I know what is going to happen, but I really and truly want to be wrong.
Atrios was right to say that this was the conservatarians' accountability moment. And they've basically flunked it.
he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed,"
Article II, section 3.
pseudonymous in nc | Email | 12.17.05 - 12:04 pm | #
I think the Bush MalAdministration is focusing more on the 'executed' part than the 'Laws' part.
people most likely to be swept up in this are listed in a Homeland Security database
and then there's thaqt other group, known as People Who Read Library Books
Rule of law motherfuckers, rule of law, rule of law...
Is this not what the wingers were yelling every 5 fuckin minutes during the Clinos's term?
Where are the liberal lawyers, or is there such a thing? They should be sueing this bush crime syndicate every day. The Dims are hiding under a fucking rock, afraid of commander coedpiece....Fuck it; time for revolutioooon. Maybe Chavez and Castro will help.....
some things only on Brit TV
Bush's Ipod
Sky News yesterday Web-posted the highly amusing video of an exchange between Fox News's Brit Hume and Bush that took place after their formal interview Wednesday had concluded.
Adrian Shaw in the British tabloid the Daily Mirror writes: "President Bush made a fool of himself yet again yesterday as he got in a muddle over his new iPod.
"The hapless President was trying to demonstrate how cool and trendy he was as he proudly showed off the music player in the Oval Office.
"But he blundered when he called American Pie singer Don McLean 'Dan'.
"And he spouted a lot of meaningless jargon as he tried to explain how the iPod worked.
"The President floundered: 'I get the shuffle and then I shuffle the shuffle.' "
Not yet, Blak. Thinking about if for later this weekend. Kong is likely Monday or Tuesday.
Hugs, bigvic! Yeah, they're all goddamn insane. They are not Americans, that's for sure. I don't care if they were born here. Everything they say and do could not be more calculated to defy the spirit and the letter of America.
Feingold made the point that if Chimpy thinks he's above the law, it doesn't matter if the Patriot Act is extended or not, because he'll do whatever the fuck he wants.
Most people who are politically apathetic adhere either to a vague Christianity or a vague Libertarianism, in my experience. For the second group, this is bound to piss them off. For the first, who feel that god is watching their every move anyway, it probably won't have much effect.
Kong is likely Monday
That's how I'm living, early as possible with no screaming idiots.
Presumably US citizens whose religious identification is Islam and who use Interlibrary Loan Services to obtain copies of the unabridged Quotations of Chairman Mao....
You know, this is certainly bringing my childhood back to me. The childhood where my Tulsa-born Mummy told we little Canadian kiddos all about a time in the US when we didn't eavesdrop on our citizens, commit illegalities in furtherance of political ambition or steal the Treasury blind.... and tell us that someday we would return to the US to find that it had outgrown its mischievous insanity.
pseudo, rj -- word. A barrage of lawsuits would be pretty fuckin' funny, wouldn't it? And, as to Repub flunking, has anyone been over to Freeperville or LGF? I don't want to pollute my browser cache if I don't have to.
Time to start using GPG again for my email.
Andrea Mitchell: Penn.
Not soon enough to prevent the monster acne, though.
visited by federal agents two months ago, after he requested a copy of Mao Tse-Tung's tome on Communism called "The Little Red Book."
From pg. 173 of Quotations From Chairman Mao Tsetung: Our duty is to hold ourselves responsible to the people. Every word, every act and every policy must conform to the people's interests, and if mistakes occur, they must be corrected - that is what being responsible to the people means.
. They are not Americans, that's for sure.
Word. And those punk ass bastards call US unpatriotic????? Hahahahahahahaha.
They're mad, I tell ya.
Is it time to organize a boycott of cable TV yet?
how about Radical Militant Librians of America?
Well ya know... them ol' Musselmen don't observe Christmas,
so....
people who should be normally shouting in outrage about this are pretending that the law and the Constitution don't matter
"Conservative" reverence for the Constitution, R.I.P.
"Conservative" support for the rule of law, R.I.P.
"Conservative" oppostion to government power, R.I.P.
Masks off at last.
I wonder what other books will get you a visit from the feds?
What the fuck is with the media, that they are not appalled with this? Why are they not, as one, Repub and Dem alike, quoting the Fourth Amendment and pointing out that Chimpy McJerkface claiming he has to spy because it's a time of war when he started the fucking war is exactly like murdering your parents and then throwing yourself on the mercy of the court because you're an orphan?
Lyle and Eric Menendez?
For that matter, what was O'Lielly babbling about last night? More "War on Christmas" crap...?
The problem we are facing here is that GWB comes from the school of thought that preaches that Nixon should have taken the tapes and burned them out on the front lawn of the white house......a position that from a purely political angle is probably correct....which makes him a lot scarier than Nixon.
The problem we are facing here is that GWB comes from the school of thought that preaches that Nixon should have taken the tapes and burned them out on the front lawn of the white house......a position that from a purely political angle is probably correct....which makes him a lot scarier than Nixon.
First,they came for the Muslim.
Gee, the founding fathers never figured that the executive would want to assume absolute power. I wonder what they would have thought about that. I guess we'll never know.
Wait, I know! Let's ask Alito about this issue.
From the Freepers:
"Find who revealed this program and execute them."
"Exactly George. Now go find them and prosecute, jail the traitors. Start with the NYT and your congressional oversite [sic], I doubt you'll have to go much further than that..."
etc.
surely this will just create yet more resentmen?
what next death squads? concentration camps?
pseudo -- oy.
can anyone help me remember the incident in 2000 when Bush lied about reading a public policy book and McCain called him on it???
I wonder what other books will get you a visit from the feds?
If they're tracking ILL records, they're certainly tracking Amazon.com purchases.
The way I see it, the "critics" are the nay-sayers. Liberals...always being negative. Why can't they just shut up and be happy?
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They should at least post a list of their "reading list" so you can choose if you want a visit from the feds or not.
What the fuck is with the media, that they are not appalled with this? Why are they not, as one, Repub and Dem alike, quoting the Fourth Amendment
I almost fainted last night when Jeff Toobin was acting as though it is iffy that Bu$h broke the law! WTF?
"he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed,"
Article II, section 3.
HE'S CAREFULLY EXECUTING THE BAD LAWS AND EXERCISING THE GOOD ONES.
"he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed,"
Article II, section 3.
HE'S CAREFULLY EXECUTING THE BAD LAWS AND EXERCISING THE GOOD ONES.
will we see mass book burnings?
Muslims of America
James Browns last hit from Rocky IV right?
Guys, I'm beginning to wonder if they figure they can push us to armed revolution, and then really have an excuse for imprisoning and killing all their political opponents.
"Exactly George. Now go find them and prosecute, jail the traitors. Start with the NYT and your congressional oversite [sic], I doubt you'll have to go much further than that..."
Said the coward from the safety of its basement in between chee-tos.
I wonder what other books will get you a visit from the feds?
bingo
I hope it's Imperial Spies Invade Russia! What a boost that would be!
Bush talking about the law when he is breaking it is pure hypocrisy at work!
My Islamic students, who are mostly white kids with the zealousness of converts, were scared shitless before this came out.
Seriously, did they REALLY call it "Muslims of America"?
Jesus Chri...I mean Holy Prophet!
HE'S CAREFULLY EXECUTING THE BAD LAWS AND EXERCISING THE GOOD ONES.
"Exorcise" would work here as well.
Alrighty, I'm off to listen to some lefty college radio and then watch some vintage ECW.
Needs to be asked; who will stop this bush crime family? The Dims are pussies, Smirk owns the courts, Smirk owns the military, Smirk has the press in his pockets, the Boomers are complacent, Wall street is happy, Amuricans are fuckin brain dead.
Who gives a fuck, but a few pinko bloggers and a few leftist faggots?
Who are these Muslims? How do they know?
yeah, toobin needs a massive cockpunch
from the ap via yahoo:
Bush Acknowledges Approving Eavesdropping
WASHINGTON - President Bush said Saturday he has no intention of stopping his personal authorizations of a post-Sept. 11 secret eavesdropping program in the U.S., lashing out at those involved in revealing it while defending it as crucial to preventing future attacks.
snip...........
"This authorization is a vital tool in our war against the terrorists. It is critical to saving American lives. The American people expect me to do everything in my power, under our laws and Constitution, to protect them and their civil liberties and that is exactly what I will continue to do as long as I am president of the United States," Bush said.
Angry members of Congress have demanded an explanation of the program, first revealed in Friday's New York Times and whether the monitoring by the National Security Agency without obtaining warrants from a court violates civil liberties. One Democrat said in response to Bush's remarks on the radio that Bush was acting more like a king than the elected president of a democracy.
I wonder what other books will get you a visit from the feds?
bingo | 12.17.05 - 12:13 pm
Not sure, but maybe we should all start stocking up from here.
Gotta run, 'Bats.
Draw up articles of impeachment while I'm gone. I know the law loving GOP will sign off on them.
Nixon should have taken the tapes and burned them out on the front lawn of the white house
you know, Nixon just wanted to be loved.
that's why he nuked Bretton Woods, imposed wage and price controls, jacked up the Fed, generally fucked up the economy for the next decade, and maintained an enemies list - because he wanted to be Loved by the Sheeple, who wound up blaming it all on Jimmy Carter.
GWB doesn't have such pure motives.
Moonootiaca; 12:14
" surely this will
create just more resentment?"
Yep, that's the game plan...
Later, Blak! HIT 'EM WITH THE CHAIR!
as fran liebowitz said, "they get caught every day, all day long; they dont care."
Some one should organize a mass buying of Mao's Li'l Red Book.
More freepi, sounding Merkin-esque:
"No longer can the President treat those in congress with the same consideration that he has. He needs to treat them as rabid dogs waiting to infect all those they contact with a deadly disease, anti-Americanism and especially anti-freedom."
"The Feds can spy on me too: I am an agrarian traditional conservative libertarian anarchist who is first and foremost patriotic to America, its ideals, and to its people and the land - America the Beautiful."
Now you can ignore them. But it's clear that they really do wipe their arses with the US Constitution.
NEW BEDFORD -- A senior at UMass Dartmouth was visited by federal agents two months ago, after he requested a copy of Mao Tse-Tung's tome on Communism called "The Little Red Book."
If they're afraid of commies, you'd think they'd be more bothered by our massive trade with China, the fact that all our jobs seem to be going there, and the fact that they hold a shitload of our national debt. Wal-Mart and friends are doing a lot more to further the cause of Communism than some kid reading Chairman Mao.
I wonder what other books will get you a visit from the feds?
bingo
Bingo, trust me: I am doing my level best to ensure that one of them will be CHALLENGE by some weirdo living in Western Michigan.
"Find who revealed this program and execute them."
In the Republic, nearly 2500 years ago, Plato suggested that if emissaries from the Real World were to descend into the cave, and volunteer to set the prisoners therein free from the World of Mere Appearences, the prisoners would turn on their rescuers and kill them.
Same old, same old.
toobin needs a massive cockpunch
Jeffrey Toobin: magna cum laude, Harvard Law. Editor of law review.
If they're tracking ILL records, they're certainly tracking Amazon.com purchases.
Oh my word! Not only will they discover the Pedrini, but Robert Fisk!
Maybe I should cross back over thru Coutts - I've got pals there.
Oh, one last thing. Anybody know what the liar Bu$h was talking about when he said Congress had been notified dozens of times about the spying? No fucking way that could be true, but then chimp is a serial liar.
right now I am waiting for the other shoe to drop...
That NSA easedropped on others besides suspected terrorists and muslims.
i bet something like this is going to come out
"Exactly George. Now go find them and prosecute, jail the traitors. Start with the NYT and your congressional oversite [sic], I doubt you'll have to go much further than that..."
Said the coward from the safety of its basement in between chee-tos.
BlakNo1 | Email | Homepage | 12.17.05 - 12:16 pm
Exactly. They think that, as cheerleaders, they themselves are part of the power structure, rather than expendable dross. What gets me is that these morons have experience with this kinda thing first hand -- they can cheer for "their" team all they want, but if they try to get all buddy-buddy with, say, Terrell Jones, they're in for at best a rude shock.
Hey, the feds are just watching a few folks with subvervise skin color or belonging to infidel religions. Of course, you always have to be on the lookout for commies, as Bob Novack and the wingnuttia right know only too well. Consider the case of this commie infiltrator, for example.
http://www.southcoasttoday.com/d...05/
a09lo650.htm
Where you have a concentration of power in a few hands, all too frequently men with the mentality of gangsters get control.
The one pervading evil of democracy is the tyranny of the party that succeeds, by force or fraud, in carrying elections.
~Lord Acton
Hillary told Cheney to go to Iraq.
Just to check things out of course.
WTF is wrong with these people.
Like his trip will bring anyone home sooner or stop the money flowing away.
NEW BEDFORD -- A senior at UMass Dartmouth was visited by federal agents two months ago, after he requested a copy of Mao Tse-Tung's tome on Communism called "The Little Red Book."
I'm fucked.
I just got through ILL a copy of Sean Wilenz's The Rise of American Democracy.
You know that puppy's on a watch list. Talk about subversive books....
This is so fahrenheit 451.
I saw a UMass student with a Chinese Red Book in his hand
Walking through the streets of Boston in the rain
He was looking for a place called Lee Ho Fook's
Going to get himself a big dish of beef chow mein
aowooo
Muslims of America
aowooo
Anybody know what the liar Bu$h was talking about when he said Congress had been notified dozens of times about the spying?
The details were probably placed on public display in a filing cabinet in Cheney's undisclosed location, with a sign reading 'Beware of the Leopard'.
Funny, I was in the local hardware store yesterday and the little American flags for sale at the counter were made in China. I shit ye not...
The commies won the cold war.
Exactly. They think that, as cheerleaders, they themselves are part of the power structure, rather than expendable dross.
You can't spell "useful idiot" without "idiot."
We the Muslims.
My Islamic students, who are mostly white kids with the zealousness of converts, were scared shitless before this came out.
NYMary (SUNY) | Email | Homepage | 12.17.05 - 12:17 pm | #
I wonder if the people running this database understand or care about the breakdown of Muslims in the US. Most of the Muslims here in Dayton are African-American converts (this was a surprise to my best friend's Egyptian hubby). A lot of the 'middle easterners' are actually Christian. Are they checking up on all the med students/docs who are here (and probably aren't going back home).
Most of the non-citizen Muslims dearly love the 'idea' of America and are very, very pissed and worried that we seem to be willing and happily pissing it away.
Democracy doesn't come from elections. It comes when the defeated government steps down.
I wonder what other books will get you a visit from the feds?
bingo
Bingo, trust me: I am doing my level best to ensure that one of them will be CHALLENGE by some weirdo living in Western Michigan.
DWD - Chronicler of Evil
Oddly enough you can download damn near anything from weapon to bomb and biological making instructions on the net.
Go figure.
Thank god I got my copy of....... before 2000.
DWD- looking forward to reading it from an undisclosed location
NEW BEDFORD -- A senior at UMass Dartmouth was visited by federal agents two months ago, after he requested a copy of Mao Tse-Tung's tome on Communism called "The Little Red Book."
If they're afraid of commies, you'd think they'd be more bothered by our massive trade with China, the fact that all our jobs seem to be going there, and the fact that they hold a shitload of our national debt. Wal-Mart and friends are doing a lot more to further the cause of Communism than some kid reading Chairman Mao.
Dr. Wu | 12.17.05 - 12:20 pm
At core, this also displays, not only their basic cowardice -- the fear of different ideas -- but their knowledge that their own ideas are wrong and unpopular. Goes right back to all the lying and bullshit about the Iraq invasion.
If their plans, ideas, values, etc., etc., etc., are so damn superior, then they can withstand any test or scrutiny.
The truth defends itself.
"Even before the war. . . Germany underwent a brutal and chilling transformation. Behind the facade of legality, the Nazis dismantled the established protections of law."
NYT 12/18, review of "The Third Reich in Power"